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On The Road Again: Cinq. Season 2, Episode 49.
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On the road again, again! Buckle up for the ride.
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00:01:18
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I think this has got to be, what, our fifth on the road broadcast? Yeah. Early Friday morning? Well, not that early. I mean, it's 8.10. No, it's late. Heading up to Jersey City.
00:01:40
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Dropping off a, let's see his house for sale. I think he had some hedge trimmers or something out there. Dropping off a sofa, radius sofa, and a piece of a sectional. An add-on. Yeah, to the sectional we built, I don't know, maybe,
00:02:09
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two months ago. That's what I was going to guess. Something like that? Yeah. Hopefully the sound's a little better this time. We got figured out. These lav mics. So hopefully it's a little bit better. Yeah. Maybe a little less cabin noise. Yeah. Less sort of hollow sounding.
Visit to Upholsterer Jim Jamal
00:02:38
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Heading up to see our friend Jim Jamal. Yep, upholsterer extraordinaire. If you're not following him on Instagram, you should check him out. Yeah. Use the right lane to turn right on Cherry Tree Farm Road. I'm sure you're going to be hearing a lot of ways today. Yeah, Jim, he and his family, they've been doing upholstery for like 100 years or something crazy. Yeah, a couple of generations. Yeah.
00:03:08
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You know, I think his parents maybe came over from Italy. He said, or maybe his grandparents and opened up the shop.
00:03:17
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Or maybe, you know, I think they worked as upholsterers and then his family opened up the shop and I think they've been there for 60 years or something? Yeah, definitely in an earlier time. The neighborhood's gone through some changes. Yeah, I think they called that... Revitalization. No, I'm trying to take the neighborhood in Jersey City.
00:03:46
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He posted something the other day. What was it, Journal Square or something like that? I've heard of Journal Square. I think that, maybe that's the neighborhood. Oh yeah, Jim's a good guy. They do nice work. We've done a bunch of stuff with them and Donnie Douglas before and had him do a project for us. The Walnut Bankette that we built. Did the cushions for that, so. Nice guy, easy to work with. Oh yeah.
00:04:18
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That's key, too. Yeah. Those feet are back there, right? For the table? Yeah. Yeah, I wrapped them up.
00:04:27
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You always got, you know, whenever you say something like that, then you have like that shockwave of fear running through you. That's like when I was building the sofa. I'm laying in bed after building the frame. I'm like, huh, like, is that thing actually 79 inches long? Because I cut those inside pieces 48. I'm like 48. And then the two sides, I'm like, that doesn't seem like it adds up.
00:04:55
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So you have a mini panic attack and then luckily when I came in the next morning it was in fact 79 inches. Yeah those are the things that keep you up at night. Actually I never even checked the actual thing all I did was check the drawing but I cut the pieces from on the laser from the drawing so it should all add up if not. We're just gonna pretend like it's the right size.
00:05:26
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That's it. If you say it's so often enough, it's so. I think that's the new world order. A lot of people living that way. It's a quiet morning out here on the road. Hope I didn't just jinx us. Yeah, 47 minute drive from here. It's not too bad. Traffic should be fairly decent.
Exploring the Lamello Zeta P2 Tool
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Got a new tool coming today.
00:05:56
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, Biggie. Well, not not in stature. No. So we did finally buy. We actually talked about it two weeks ago on the podcast. Somebody asked Lamello Zeta P2. So we could probably our Instagram following is going to go from twenty two thousand to fifty thousand probably overnight. Why is that? So what all the cool kids are using these days. Oh, we're hip now. Yeah.
00:06:26
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So we're working on this knockdown flat pack kind of concept and we needed a way to attach this one component.
00:06:38
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I'm going to be using, I think they're the Clamex. I'm not sure, I don't know the connector names yet. I know there's Tentso and Clamex. I think they're the, yeah Jim, I told you we're on the way. I think it's the Clamex. The one that has the little Allen key clampy guy. It's the right lane to turn right. You're going to be using that in conjunction with some dry dominoes to attach this one part.
00:07:10
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So we pulled the trigger. 3.7 miles. Keep left to Garden State Parkway, Clark Street. Definitely. We've said before, it's one of those tools where you make do without it. But if you have it, definitely find ways to use it. Yeah. There is a lot of overuse and stupid use of it. Like attaching end panels to cabinets. That's insane.
00:07:36
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and a waste of time and money, in my opinion. But, yeah. I mean, cool things you can do with it, like, what was it? Remember when we built the planer wall for horrible? Oh yeah, of course not. Oh, it's a GT-R. That's sweet. And we had those real acute angles.
00:08:02
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Yes. Well, you can use them in those. And then you have a real strong mechanical connection that's blind, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. It's always good to have something around where it solves a problem. Yeah.
00:08:23
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And it's small, it's not like a big giant machine that's going to take up a bunch of space. Yeah, it's $2,500 you've got to spend to get the thing and then the starter kit, which is like basically you've got to get that because it has all the stuff you need. It's got a selection of connectors.
00:08:43
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this little flexible screwdriver so you can get in there and tighten the things and the drill guide to drill the hole for the Allen key and blah, blah, blah. Good tools cost money. Yeah. I was disappointed to see that it's actually made in China. I thought it might be made in, I think, Lamello's Swiss. I thought so.
00:09:07
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Yeah, hopefully there's some strong oversight going on. Yeah. Charging Tesla with the license plate. CH4RGIN charging. I had a slight dyslexic moment there. I thought it said chagrin. Yeah. I could see that too. It's that four that kind of confused me. Yeah. Slightly different meaning.
00:09:40
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So yeah, Lomelo should
Electric Vehicles Discussion
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be nice for the figure out how to use it. I mean, even if it just gets used for this flat pack idea, which, you know, we're hoping would take off, it's worth the price of admission. Yeah. And then, you know, all the other times where he said, oh, man, it would have been nice if we had this.
00:10:02
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Wamello to, you know, put on this face frame on site or whatever. Well, now it's another arrow in the quiver, as they say. I don't mind having a tool around that only comes out every now and again if it's, you know, something that only does that thing, you know? Yeah, I mean, even when you're stuck, the dominoes don't use that thing constantly when it comes out.
00:10:32
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out to do a specific task. And that's when it pays to have it. Yeah. I guess there's different viewpoints. Some people feel like something has to be operating X amount of time for it to have its value. Yeah.
00:10:58
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Yeah, that's like people get the lamello and now they're using it to put on end panels. When you could just put it in with four screws from the inside. Well, now you're taking, you're forcing this tool into use when really there's a better way of doing it. Just because you have that tool doesn't mean that you should use it. Yeah, trying to justify its cost, I guess. Right. Domino, same thing.
00:11:24
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People are using dominoes in a lot of situations where you really don't need a slip tenon. Like, face frames. It's completely unnecessary. I'm sorry. Couple pocket screws and some glue. You're good to go. Yeah, that's where I love the pocket screw.
00:11:44
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Yeah, for face frames. And connecting face frames to cabinets. That's what I was thinking, to the box, as long as it's a hidden location. And I like them for putting the face frame together. Oh yeah, yeah.
00:12:09
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Not a huge fan of box construction with pocket holes. Put a couple in sometimes just to aid in assembly. You know, you kind of get a screw in to hold it together. Yeah, I tried that method as well. I wasn't, you know, it's not that strong. No, no.
00:12:31
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Once it's together with the back on it and stuff, it's fine and the face frame. But yeah, the pocket holes by themselves, a screw through the side is going to be much stronger. Fasten the Starbucks. No line. Coming soon.
00:13:01
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Middletown runs on Duncan, I heard. Yeah, this is it, I think it's Hasland. In half a mile, use the left lane to keep love to Garden State Parkway, Clark Street. You know, that's machinery, I saw them, they have TV ads. The rental place over here? Yeah, yeah.
00:13:29
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All right, so let's see. Every time we go this way, there's no traffic getting onto the parkway. And every time we go the other way, there's always traffic coming this way from the parkway. So we'll see. See what's what. Keep left, Garden State Parkway, Clark Street. Here we go. I don't see anything. Nope.
00:13:59
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So this is where Route 35 and Route 36 both exit out to the Garden State Parkway. When you're coming from Route 36, there's always traffic trying to merge in from Route 35. But when you come from Route 35, there's never any traffic coming in from Route 36. In 900 feet, use the left lane to keep left to Garden State Parkway Express, North Woodbridge. Keep left to Garden State Parkway Express, North Woodbridge.
00:14:29
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We haven't actually been on the parkway in a while. I guess we're up in MacArthur, was the last time. Has it been that long? Well, it seemed like we were going up every day for a while. Yeah, little baby geese. Not quite babies, but not full grown.
00:15:03
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Yeah, we're recording recording this the day after we reported last week's podcast where we did the Google reviews You'll be funny if somebody
00:15:25
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Who we read their review listened to the podcast. That would be too much of a coincidence. Left lane closed two miles. Both sector bowing the lawns.
00:15:50
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You should just have those robots that do it. Oh, yeah, like a mowing Zumba Roomba? Yeah. Those have actually been around a long time, I think. Ah ha, got him. Oh, no, he's just telling them to get over. You know, like if you're a cop and you've got to put your lights on to tell somebody to get over in the left lane, then doesn't that kind of mean that you should pull them over? Yeah. Because you're only supposed to be in the left lane to pass, technically?
00:16:21
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I mean, where is he going? I don't know. He's, uh, he could just like wonder if that's a cop from Alabama. Could just kind of be weaving in and out to get where he's got to go. This will be a parkway to turnpike trip. Turnpike. He's reported ahead.
00:16:52
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Police reported ahead. Let's see what we got going on. It's probably him. That or there's something going on up here. I do see some more flashing lights. Yeah, those are lights like a parkway truck. One of those things.
00:17:19
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I did reach out to Tommy G. He's still fishing. Geez, must be nice, Tommy G. Yeah, all week long. I haven't been fishing in ages. Maybe I'll go on Saturday. He said he's going to come by next week because he's bringing his boat in. Oh, for the motor thing? Yeah. Should text Lou, see if he wants to come by later, pick up his t-shirt. I will. I will.
00:17:46
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Buddy Lou, forming at the old shop, had a second knee replacement a couple months ago. He's still on the mend. You know, his rehab stint is probably coming to a close. The weeks are flying by. Yeah. I think he's got maybe a month until he can be ready to go back or something like that. Yeah, you have to start calling him the bionic man with two new knees. Yeah, two new knees.
00:18:18
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It's a road I'm hoping I don't have to go down. Hopefully some new science can regrow the cartilage in my knee. Yeah. Yeah, you're pretty young.
00:18:31
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I mean, that's what they say. It doesn't feel that way. No. What does that say? The custom closet? The custom closet, yes, indeed. Patty pantry. And like a plumbing truck. Yeah, utility body van.
00:18:53
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Big money in those custom closets. Yeah, yeah. Police reported a hand. So our Haefler rep tells us to. Yeah, yeah. Oh, a piece of exhaust laying on the side of the road. Yeah, we'll be making the drive up to Maker Camp in, uh, it's like one month, 10 days or something like that.
Upcoming Maker Camp Plans
00:19:21
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We haven't talked about it yet. It'll be under the Saw Stop Woodworking Tent. Doing a little bit of demonstrating. It's a good time up in the Catskills, New York State. Yeah, it's a nice break from the routine as well. Yeah. Yeah, so it's blacksmithing and welding and woodworking and
00:19:50
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so we're you know have the idea to bring like more of the traditional well I shouldn't say traditional more of like furniture cabinet making woodworking to make your camp they already you know we're
00:20:05
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doing demos with chainsaw milling and like a little timber framing thing going on. Timber framing, yeah, shape horse work with making handles for tools and stuff like that. But nothing in the more furniture cabinet based stuff. So we had the idea of bringing that to maker camp and we
00:20:33
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We've got together with Corey from CT Woodwork, Rob DeMarco, fellow Long Islander, Matt Vis from IKAG Vis, and Robert Bliss of, uh, how's it going, Bliss Made? Uh, his Instagram is Bliss Made. I was just, yeah, fumbling, trying to remember what his company name is. I think it's just Bliss.
00:20:59
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Maybe it is Bliss made furniture. Sorry, Robert Bliss. Messing up your company name here. But yeah, Bliss is, man. He's doing some real hardcore, traditional furniture building.
00:21:17
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You know? Yeah, we're space age compared to bliss. Yeah. You know, he's like wooden drawer runners, all, you know, solid wood cases with solid wood backs and wooden runners and hole nine, hand-cut dovetails. He's a highly skilled guy. That's for damn sure. I can count on one hand the time I even use wooden knobs and poles. Yeah, he was yesterday.
00:21:49
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putting wooden shaker knobs on a chest of drawers he was building. They come too, they turn them in a pair so that you have a grain match for the drawers. The drawers always have two poles. I guess not always. Typically they have two. So you have a grain match so you split it down the middle and then you cross wedge it.
00:22:18
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So he was showing how he does that. Lost odds. Yeah. So yeah, it can't be a good time. I'm not sure if there's even any tickets available, but...
00:22:34
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You could always check it out if you want to go. It's up at the Blackdorn Resort in East Durham, New York, which is, if you know Jimmy DiResta, that's where Jimmy lives now. He's a big part of the whole thing. His neck of the woods, so it's reported ahead. Do they sell day passes? Yeah, yeah, so you can just go for a day.
00:23:01
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I'm not sure how that works with, like, tickets, you know, like if Austin, um, Austin's the guy who runs Maker Camp. His family owns the Blackdorn Resort. I'm not sure if he, you know, puts those on top of the, um, attendance cap or if those are included, but there's that Malibu that was flying in the left lane and pulled over. Wasn't a cop after all. Um,
00:23:31
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lost my train of thought but yeah it's a good time it's super low-key I'm hoping it's that way again this year
00:23:42
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There's people of all skill levels and sort of social clout levels, if you want to call it that. And everybody is sort of on an equal playing field. Anybody who's got an ego, you're probably going to get your ego checked real quick. Yeah, checked at the door. Yeah, because the crowd is mostly of the mindset where I don't give two shits who you are.
00:24:08
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Everybody's on an equal playing field, so it's pretty cool. Yeah, that's a good rule of thumb for life. Yeah, absolutely. And social media is such a minute, you know, cubby hole. Oh, yeah, in reality. Right, right. So, you know who I am? Not really.
00:24:38
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I know, I know. So IWF is going on right now, down in, uh, I guess it's in Atlanta, right? Atlanta? I know it's in Georgia. Um, look at that, we've got a link closed. Yeah, IWF looks cool, I'd like to go to that someday. A lot of, uh, industrial-sized machines and stuff. Yeah, that stuff's cool.
00:25:09
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Not this year, we're too damn busy. We got a lot going on. Speaking of machines, that was some finds you saw there on that slider. Yeah, yeah. Decent price. Definitely some better finds on the auctions and stuff, but we don't have a place to put it right now anyway.
00:25:32
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So just a little window shopping. Keep left to cars only. Oh wow, cars only. I have an alert set on Facebook Marketplace that if sliding table saw, if any ads get put up, I'm supposed to get an alert? I didn't get an alert. What's it in its title? Yeah. So who knows? It was a 10-foot
00:25:59
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is it a r-tech? yeah it's a how you say that? bees? yeah something like that German company obviously but it's a 93 pretty old no no blade over arm over blade guard you know for dust collection or anything kind of
00:26:28
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I think probably a little overpriced at $3,000. I wonder what that machine cost new. Back in 1993? Yeah. I don't know. $10,000, $15,000 probably. You know, these days, a good
00:26:53
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10 foot sliding table saw. I mean, you can get a grizzly for like, I was talking about this with Freddie this morning, you get a grizzly for like 11, 12,000 or like a muxi or something like that. But the real deal, you're talking 35 and up, 25 maybe. So at half the price, it's gotta be something. There's always a catch.
00:27:19
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Yeah, I was just talking about that when I was watching TV with the wife and, you know, commercials come on for like the Kia and stuff. It's like, wow, look, look at that. We could have gotten that for one ninety nine a month. I'm like.
00:27:37
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Things cost what they cost for a reason. It's the quality of the workmanship, the materials. You cut enough corners on something, it becomes round. Yeah. Tom knows all about that. I always say if a square had five corners, if he somehow manages to cut five corners off a square,
00:28:04
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Cops are out heavy today. Yeah. What do they got over here? Accurate delivery and install corporation. Got them. Is this the last weekend before Labor Day? Or is that next weekend? Labor Day is not this coming Monday, but the following Monday. Some kids will be back in school a week from Tuesday.
00:28:34
Speaker
Except Hunter, they don't start until the 12th. So the preschool that my son goes to, they follow the same schedule as the Middletown School District. Middletown School District starts on the 6th, but his school is starting on the 12th.
Driving Styles and Stereotypes
00:28:56
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They have like meet and greet kind of thing going on the week of the 6th.
00:29:03
Speaker
Watch out. Vehicle on shoulder ahead. And then the year after, he's going to kindergarten. Uh, yeah, I guess so. That saved me $550 a month. That's right. Put it on the taxpayer. I'm already paying those taxes.
00:29:21
Speaker
All right. That's right. That's a good investment. Yeah. I say we put them in first grade straight off. Yeah. Get them out to college sooner. Maybe they'll be pre-tuitioned by the time he's ready. Oh, God. Don't get the listeners all riled up.
00:29:46
Speaker
Some guy's got a vein popping out of his head right now. Yeah, I know you know, but for all those listeners, again, showing my age, my student loan was 0.9% interest. That was back before it became this corrupt business practice.
00:30:12
Speaker
when they were actually trying to get kids in and out of school at a reasonable rate. And not raising tuition on an exponential curve. Oh, yeah. I went to Arizona State University. And I think my tuition was about $2,500 a year. Wow.
00:30:37
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That I had a finagle a little bit to get my in-state residency But that's that's what it was like and then I went to Brooklyn College it was even less than that What is this person doing I don't know they're the TLC Go back to New York
00:31:07
Speaker
It reminds me of the story Chris Powell told us from Full Steam Design. Chris is from New York, and he upstate New York. He lives in Charleston, though, now. But he was in New York for something, and he rented a car, and it had Jersey plates. And somebody cut him off or something, and they were like, go the fuck back to New Jersey!
00:31:34
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I have to tell you, growing up in New York and experiencing people from Jersey, there was definitely a certain disdain for people from New Jersey. The feeling is mutual here. I don't know why. It's just something that they breed into you in New York.
00:31:56
Speaker
On the weekends, they call them the bridge and tunnel crowd. Well, since you've moved to Jersey, now you see it from our point of view. That's right. We were the assholes. That's right. It's a good life lesson. It really shows you what perspective will do to you. Power of suggestion.
00:32:23
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Now I'm always grumbling, I'm driving around freaking New York and going back to New York. They really are bad drivers. They are. It's that sort of, I mean it takes the I'm the only one on the road mentality to the next level. Yeah. I mean people say New Jersey drivers are bad. I mean there's a lot of bad driving going on.
00:32:49
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But I think as a whole, comparatively, Jersey drivers are maybe a little more skilled. We might do things that are a little bit asinine, but that's not a matter of skill level. Yeah. I think on the streets, there's a lot more politeness in New Jersey. It's diminishing, I'll say, over the 20 years I've been here.
00:33:20
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But you know, people will let you go and I don't like that. Don't let people go. Follow the traffic laws. Oh yeah. I mean like coming out of your driveway and stuff like that. I like that. I don't. I'll pull out when traffic clears up because it just causes confusion. I can see that point.
00:33:45
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There's rules, and if you don't follow the rules, then I'm gonna get confused as to what's going on. Are you actually letting me out? Are you just swelling down? Because you're a dumbass? There are those moments. Because people let you out, and they don't like, flash their lights or like, wave their hand, you know? Yeah. There are situations where I think it's okay to like, let somebody go.
00:34:16
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because I do it too. But yeah, you gotta, you gotta know how to do it. Otherwise you're just making things more complicated. The best is when like a car, like we'll be pulling into the driveway at your house, at the shop.
00:34:40
Speaker
And there will be a car coming. And there's no cars behind them. And they stop and let us go. There's nobody behind you. Just keep driving. Another cop there and another cop there. You know the kind of guy that bugs me is the serial come on in guy. Like you're driving down middle road or something, which is a one lane each way road. And it's kind of slow traffic.
00:35:09
Speaker
and people at every intersection is going to let somebody in. Oh, yeah. We used to get it on the way home from the shop, from the old shop, because you had to go down Ocean Avenue, which is right on the ocean. And there's all these people going to the beach. And you get the person who would see somebody in the crosswalk 150 yards ahead and start slowing down and stopping. The good Samaritan. Yeah.
00:35:40
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Yeah, I don't miss that trip. No. For a lot of reasons. Yeah. Passing our biggest competition, IKEA. That's right. Right across from the Newark airport. Probably... You've probably heard that four times before in the podcast. I think this is the first time we haven't been stopped in traffic by the port.
00:36:09
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Yeah, it usually gets a little congested. I guess it's a little bit late. And we're coming up on that secret building. Yeah, did we pass it already? No, I don't know. The Darth Vader building, as Keith calls it. Yeah, I think we passed it. I think it's at the other...
00:36:37
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Uh, the other side of the airport. Might be behind this train. I was talking to Corey last night from Odyssey CNC about the rotary CNC. He's saying maybe he could turn a couple sample legs for us. Oh, that would be awesome. See what the thing is all about.
00:37:07
Speaker
Yeah man, if we had two of those, just if we got an order. Alright, we need two XYZ legs. Throw them on there, turn them up. I mean that thing, did you see like the handles that he did on there? No.
00:37:25
Speaker
Oh, is that the one that had like the... I thought they were walking sticks or something like that. No, he was making hammer handles that had like a couple of them had like a weave texture in the handle, like a basket weave kind of thing. I didn't know that's what those were.
00:37:54
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Yeah, I mean, totally insane. I knew that there were rotary CNCs, but I had never seen anything like that made on them. I guess that's probably how they make hammer handles and stuff. I don't know. I guess not sure.
00:38:25
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It's too bad we can't talk to the listeners. Yeah, that might open us up to some interesting conversations.
International Audience Growth
00:38:38
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Get someone from Bangladesh that just says hi every 30 seconds. Yeah, yeah. That guy's still messaging me hi.
00:38:47
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The podcast is starting to pick up steam there in the Middle East. Yeah, I don't know about the podcast. The Instagram. Instagram. We're huge in Iran right now. Getting a lot of followers from Iran. Brazil is pretty big. I hope it's the English speaking sections. I don't really care unless what they're speaking.
00:39:20
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I want to fully appreciate what's going on. Wait, I don't really do much talking on the Instagram. There's an MTA bus doing in New Jersey. 275 to ride the bus.
00:39:47
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Hit 3.6 miles. Take exit 15X, Sakakis Rail Station. I wonder if Jim's going to have the spot locked up for us again. It's possible. Get those cones out there. Now hiring window treatment installer.
00:40:15
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Oh, man. That sounds like a horrible existence. Look at all those new Teslas over there. Oh, yeah. Old truckload of white Teslas. Yeah. Started looking at electric trucks. My lease is going to be up in about a year. Really not much selection at this point. Is the Lightning out on the road? I think so. I think they're really hard to get.
00:40:45
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so what's what's something you could go into a showroom and drive well I don't know if you can drive out with anything but I don't think you can really do that with anything these days or you mean just go see yeah like what's the closest thing to being able to I mean you could probably go see a lightning
00:41:06
Speaker
That's it, that's like the one, like, sort of production, big-time production electric pick. Right, what's- And you have the Rivian. Is it an Atlas? Is that what it's called? Uh, I don't know. I'm not sure what that is. Yeah, the Rivian, I don't even know if that's, uh, widely available yet.
00:41:32
Speaker
I thought that there was a Silverado, but when you search electric pickup, it doesn't really come up in search. Let's see. Allie's lease is up. Shit might be this ball, so we gotta figure out what to do.
00:41:59
Speaker
She's like, I'll go back to a key. I'm like, no. I hated those cars. They were just so chintzy. According to top gear, 2022 is the year of the EV pickup. Number one is the Ford F-150 Lightning.
00:42:24
Speaker
Number two is the Rivian R1T. They say it's already in production. It's the year of the truck, they only got two? What's number three? No. I'm reading about the Rivian, it gets a 300 mile range. All I gotta do is, I need five.
00:42:52
Speaker
Prices start at $67,500. That's a bit much. Number three is the Tesla Cybertruck. Pass. Yeah. Number four is the Lordstown Endurance. I'm in for Lordstown, Ohio. What's the price tag on that? They own an old General Motors factory.
00:43:20
Speaker
At least they used to until it was recently sold to tech group Foxconn so
00:43:28
Speaker
It's supposed to be a proper work truck like the F-150, more so than the Rivian, they say. Prices start at $52,500. Production's set to start this year with a plan to build $500 by the end of 2022 and $2,500 in 2023.
00:43:52
Speaker
The Hummer EV. Pass. That's that, now that I see a picture, remember that picture, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That picture is a vehicle I saw when we were up there in Whalley. Yeah. Chevy Silverado EV. Yeah, I thought they had one. I'm not a Chevy guy. No. I like my Ram.
00:44:15
Speaker
It's built from the ground up on the same electric platform as the Hummer EV. Jesus Christ. It's going to launch in 2023. 2022, the year of the truck. This one's coming out next year. This is a real kick in the nuts. Starting at $95,000. Oh.
00:44:36
Speaker
You were so close. $105,000 for the top of the line. Isn't it like a Super Duty or something, though? It's not a half-ton pickup. Yeah. They're going to try and get some bare bones model for about $40,000. If you go on Ford's website, it says the Lightning starts at $36,000. Yeah. The Alpha Wolf.
00:45:06
Speaker
a California EV startup. Is that the one that looks like old Toyota? Yes. There's set to be three variants, the standard Wolf, the extended cab Wolf, and the double cab Super Wolf. Single and dual motor, you know, two and four wheel drive. Yeah.
00:45:29
Speaker
They're targeting a starting price of 36K. Yeah, good luck. Although we'll believe it when we see it, according to top gear. All right, so here's the Atlas, spelled A-T-L-I-S. Oh, OK, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard of that.
00:45:50
Speaker
I'm guessing that this photo is like a mock-up. It's like one of those really boxy kind of renderings. Yeah It's a real truck, but it doesn't look like a production body I call it a wedge-tastic XT pickup Starting at 70,000
00:46:20
Speaker
Cars are getting so expensive. Edison Future. Notable for one reason above all, it's solar panel roof. Made its debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show last year. It's going to come with a single, dual, and super tri-motor version.
00:46:52
Speaker
turn right on Paula Vico and then use the right lane. Oh, and he is a, he is an odd looking little thing. It kind of looks like, uh, use the right lane to exit right to a mini bus and a pickup truck. Like one of those Volkswagen pickup back. They call it the canoe. Yeah, that's what it looks like.
00:47:26
Speaker
And that's probably a little pie in the sky. But that's it. Slim pickings. Year of the electric truck. Year of the electric truck seems to have the Ford Lightning. What's going on here? Oh, we got that car hole just making trouble. Yeah.
00:47:54
Speaker
You can't pull that little Hyundai Sonata. Get a bigger truck, buddy. Go back to Connecticut. Yeah, damn it. So I talked to Matt a little more last night about, what was that place called? Maison Pizza? Oh yeah, Maison. He said that those reviews must be fake, that it's
00:48:19
Speaker
It's horrible. He said it's absolutely horrible. He said he thinks it's a front. But Muhammad's very personable. I think Muhammad's paying people to leave those reviews. I told him I want to interview with Muhammad. Do like a seven on your side and go in there and blow up his spot. According to car and driver,
00:48:49
Speaker
Deliveries have started for the Rivian. Man, is that the Freedom Tower? No, that would be to the right. Oh, wait a second. That's friggin' tall, whatever the hell it is. I thought the Freedom Tower had more of a slant to it. Yeah, I didn't think it had such a big antenna on the top.
00:49:26
Speaker
Yeah, the F-150 Lightning starts at $41,669. Yeah, I don't think you can get them though. I think they're all like, you know, you gotta get on like a waiting list. Yeah, that sounds about right. I wish that Ram would come out with something because I have lights. My last two trucks.
00:49:49
Speaker
Yeah, there's not been one word about Ram coming out with anything in all these articles. No, they just announced the charger. So maybe they'll follow suit. If they're going to be making one electric motor, there's no reason they can't put it in a truck, because they use the same motor in the charger in the truck now anyway. Oh, Toyota.
00:50:20
Speaker
They plan to produce one in the coming years. Mmm. Turn left on Manhattan Avenue. It's the weirdest stop sign here. Come on, Waze, tell me where I'm going. We're going straight? Yes. In a quarter of a mile. Turn right on John F. Kennedy Boulevard.
Closing Remarks and Support
00:50:52
Speaker
Hunter picked out his new backpack and lunchbox for school. Let me guess, is it Paw Patrol? No. Not Paw Patrol. It's got dinosaurs on it? No. Strike two. Those are my... Probably not, yeah. He's real into Sonic right now, Sonic the Hedgehog. Oh, wow. He's got Sonic movies that he really likes.
00:51:22
Speaker
I sat through some of them. I'm not a big fan. I'll see. You're probably too young for this. Did you have a steel lunchbox growing up? I'm pretty sure I always just had a brown paper bag. Yeah, I don't think I had like a... I think it was mostly soft lunchboxes when I was in school, but I was a brown bagger.
00:51:48
Speaker
Yeah, back in the olden days, we had steel lunch boxes. I probably had plastic lunch boxes when I was like really young. And had the matching thermos inside. Yeah, those were big when I was... I think I had a Charlie Brown one. Hmm. I was a big Snoopy fan. Oh yeah, I like Snoopy's funny. White man and diner. Yeah.
00:52:23
Speaker
Easy there, Toyota, my God. Get it all up in our lane. We're in Jersey City now. Oh yeah. Jersey City's pretty big. It's surprisingly hilly. Yeah. I mean...
00:52:47
Speaker
Well, not to the size of San Francisco, but I mean, there are neighborhoods in San Francisco where this would be like a normal size hill. I mean, that one, when we go the other way, that one's pretty steep. Oh, yeah. What's that little road I forget? It's like a crazy turn up this friggin' mountain, basically. What do we got here? Is it north?
00:53:17
Speaker
uh maybe little smiles toddler preschool infant toddler preschool you really it's just fit all the adjectives in there use the left lane to turn left on state route 139 east upper
00:53:48
Speaker
Yeah, so pretty soon we're going to get this drippy countertop bar situation out of the shop. Probably maybe end of next week, middle of the following week. Turn left on State Route 139 East, upper. Then we're going to be getting, as I said to Adam yesterday, we're going to be getting balls deep in these salt boxes. Oh yeah.
00:54:12
Speaker
So that'll be fun. Be stressful, I'm sure, trying to figure out how to do it efficiently. Yeah, I was going to ask you, how long you think it'll take before we figure out exactly, like, you know, we get our rhythm and everything? Probably about 950 bucks. Don't say that. Because there's, you know, like, like five or six crucial steps, let's say. Yeah. You know.
00:54:46
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe a week or two. Yeah. We initially predicted a month. I'm going to guess five weeks. Yeah, I was going to say six. I guess we'll see. All depends on what we can do with the laser. Oh yeah, that's a little bit familiar. Yeah, I remember getting cut off over here by somebody.
00:55:24
Speaker
700 feet. Use the middle lane to keep left to Newark Avenue. Well, we're getting pretty close. I guess we should sign off. Yeah, this has been a relaxing drive up here, comparatively, right? Keep left to Newark Avenue. I mean, I didn't do any driving. Well, folks, we'll see you next week.
00:55:48
Speaker
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00:56:28
Speaker
Ain't no shame, but there's been a chain