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What Egg Donation Is Actually Like

S4 E4 · Create A Happy Family
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Egg donation is often discussed in clinical terms — procedures, timelines, and compensation — but for some donors, the experience goes beyond the calendar and includes unexpected relationships with the intended parents.

In this episode, Morgan shares what egg donation was actually like for her, including what surprised her most and how her experience challenged common assumptions about donors, boundaries, and attachment. She reflects on navigating relationships thoughtfully, being invited to meet the baby she helped create, and how intention shaped her journey.

If you’re thinking about egg donation or want a clearer picture of what the experience can actually look like, this conversation offers insight from someone who’s been through it.

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Morgan Challenges Egg Donation Assumptions

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It was completely unexpected. I wanted, I just wanted updates. Now we're, I'm texting Zach, one of the intended parents, literally every day. When people think about egg donation, they often assume that keeping distance is the safest option, worrying that connection could become emotionally complicated.
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But Morgan's story challenges that assumption. Morgan was an egg donor in a known donor cycle, and instead of distance or confusion, she developed a close, healthy relationship with the hopeful parents.
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One that feels grounded, joyful, and clear. It was like I'm holding someone else's baby. I'm holding my friend's baby, basically. Like, love her, she's cute, but like, you know, friend's baby.
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That distinction matters. In this conversation, Morgan shares what her donation cycle was actually like, how boundaries formed naturally, and why closeness didn't blur roles.
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It strengthened trust. If you're curious about egg donation, wondering what known donation could look like, or questioning whether connection has to mean an emotional risk, this conversation is for you.
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Enjoy.

Podcast Introduction with Whitney Hall

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Who knew it could take more than two people to have a baby? I'm Whitney Hall, a two-time surrogate, now part of the team at Egg Donor and Surrogate Solutions.
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And I've seen how life-changing this process can be when you feel informed, supported, and confident about your next step. Each week on Create a Happy Family, you'll hear real stories and expert insights from hopeful parents, surrogates, egg donors, and professionals, all to help you understand what it really takes to create a family in this way.
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Because at the heart of it all, we're creating happy families, one relationship at a time.
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Okay. So just right off the bat, you know, when it comes to egg donation, it's really often talked about in like very clinical terms. But one thing that I think is really unique about your story is how close you became with the family that you actually donated to. Can you share just a little bit about that relationship and what it looked like and kind of how that evolved over time?

Morgan's Unexpected Friendship with Intended Parents

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Yeah, absolutely. um It has been amazing. So I donated in 2024. And then, um you know, we use the donor sibling registry, which I was on. And then in January of this year, actually, the intended parents reached out to me on the donor sibling registry.
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And from there, we just started chatting. And then we exchanged numbers. And then when they had their daughter, we they invited me to come meet her at the hospital, which was amazing. Like, I did not expect that.
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And then from there, like, we just clicked. And it's just been like the most amazing relationship. Absolutely amazing. It's part of our program that everybody, you know, whether you're doing a unidentified or known cycle, you will, you know, be established on the donor sibling registry.
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When you were doing that, what were kind of your thoughts whenever it came to like what a relationship would look like, or just really what that connection would even be? Yeah, it was completely unexpected. I mean, I had hoped that we would have some kind of contact, even if we just stayed on the donor sibling registry anonymous. Like I wanted, I just wanted updates. Like I wanted to know if they were pregnant, like if it was successful and if they had a baby and what gender the baby was and maybe a picture would be nice. But now we're, I'm texting Zach, one of the intended parents, literally every day. We just got off the phone earlier. he lives in Florida. They live in Florida near my parents. So like when I visit my parents, I get to go see them. Like it's just been amazing.
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That is so beautiful. you I mean, again, something that is just so unique and amazing is the fact that they invited you to be at the birth. What did that moment mean to you?
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That was really special and sweet because, again, I didn't expect this kind of relationship with them. Obviously I'm

Special Hospital Invitation Experience

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very happy with it, but um I was just like, wow, like, are you sure you want me to come up there? And they're like, yeah, come to the hospital. We have an extra, you know, guest on our guest list. So we'll write you down. And actually, she was in the NICU for a little bit. So I got to go up there a few times and um hang out with them. And just over those few days at the hospital, like we just became so close.
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How did you emotionally prepare for that? Or did you even have to um I didn't know what to expect, honestly, because I've never done this. So... um I think I thought that I would feel really emotional and connected. But when I met the baby, it was kind of just like, always tell people, but I'm like this um it's like, it was like, I'm holding someone else's. I'm holding my friend's baby, basically. Like, love her. She's cute. But like, you know, friend's baby. So yeah, that was different than expected. But of course, as I've gotten to know Zach and Scott more and like become closer with them now, I just love them and their family and their baby so much. So yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. A lot of people, and I mean, i know even like I've been lucky enough to, you know, speak with with your intended parents. And, you know i know, kind of in the beginning, there was a little bit of a hesitation. Right. And by beginning, I mean like way back when. way back, yeah. Yeah, way back when. They were like, what?
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how, how would we navigate a relationship with a donor? And a lot of, you know, donor families do feel like it could be emotionally complicated. How have you guys kind of navigated, you know, just what that looks like and, um, you know, maybe, maybe boundaries or, you know, just what does that connection look like as that relationship has evolved?
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Yeah. I feel like I've really just let them lead it from the beginning because this is their family, their baby. And, I've just felt lucky to be even a tiny part of that, even if it was just going to be texts and emails every once in a while. But um yeah, I've let them lead it. And I've tried to, you know, set boundaries myself and just not, I don't know, just let them let them be in charge of that relationship. And it's just become so much more than I think any of us ever expected. So yeah, what boundaries were important to you as a donor?
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Really, i didn't, maybe the the boundaries I set weren't for me, I would say, like, I tried to give them space, like, they text, as soon as she was born, they texted me, and were like, hey, she's here, and I, you know, I just tried to give them space, I waited for them to text me, i knew it was a crazy time, they were busy, she was in the NICU, they had to fly from out of state, I just, I just tried to let them lead every conversation, they and but you know, I didn't push, I didn't ask, like, can I come see her, can I come hang out, like, I wanted to let them, like,
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lead the relationship and, um, whatever they were comfortable with, I was comfortable with. So, um I love that. How, what has kind of the family support been like you, you mentioned, you know, they're like close to your mom and so you're visiting them and, you know, just what has that, like, what if your family and friends kind of thought with, with this type of relationship?
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Yeah, they're my my family and friends are great. They're all so supportive and excited and happy for me because they were, you know, along for the journey when I was doing the egg donation and the retrieval and they all knew like that I wanted some sort of contact with them and they they would always ask me for updates. Like, do you know anything yet? Like what's going on? What's the update? So now that I have this relationship with them, everyone's just like, this is amazing. This is what you wanted. This is better than what you wanted. And um yeah, Nate, I mean, when I'm in Florida,
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we get together, like my family hangs out with them and it's just been, it's really cool. It's been really fun. That is so fun. you so again, something that's just so beautiful about who you are, you know, before you were an egg donor, you actually helped a create family through

Differences Between Birth Mother and Egg Donor Roles

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adoption. You've been a surrogate and having experienced both of when it came to the adoption, being a birth mother and then being an egg donor,
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How do you understand the difference between those roles for yourself? Yeah, that's a great question. And the way I look at it is the adoption, that was an unplanned pregnancy at 17.
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That's my child, my son that I carried for nine months. And I made the decision to place him for adoption versus egg donation was like, from the beginning, i knew like, I'm donating my eggs. This is not my child. You know, she's not my daughter. and I think it was, you know, it's different. Like I didn't carry her. I didn't feel her grow in my belly. I didn't, you know, give birth to her. It's just a different, different dynamic, different relationship and different circumstances and emotions involved. So I think because one was unplanned and one was like a conscious decision I made that helped a lot with like the emotions and the and all that.
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Yeah, for sure. We'll get right back to the show in just a second, but real quick, have you ever thought about doing something truly meaningful for someone else?
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At Egg Donor and Surrogate Solutions, we've spent the last 18 years helping women like you make a life-changing difference by becoming egg donors, giving hopeful parents one of the most precious gifts possible, the chance to grow their family,
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If you're healthy between the ages of 21 and 28 and curious about how egg donation works, we'd love to support you. You can download our egg donor journey and compensation guide create a happy family.com.
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You might be the missing piece in someone's family story. All right, let's get back to the show. How, okay. Now remind me how old is that your intended parents daughter now?
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She's nine months. Yeah, nine months. she's nine He's going to get mad at me for not knowing that. <unk>s not No, it's perfect. It's perfect. Okay. So she's nine months as she's grown. And then as you're thinking about, again, just those differences between, you know, what it was to be a birth mother and what it was to be an egg donor. And she, you know, maybe she, you're starting to see,
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similarities between you know what you look like or you know just things like that. Has that ever changed how you're viewing things or is it, again, just very much like friends' babies? Two separate. Yeah. It really is. And I tell Zach that all the time. I'm like, it's just my best friend's baby. I just happen to be the egg donor. But yeah, it's the emotions are different. I do see similarities between her and my birth son and me. And and it's fun to watch, but I've never... like adoption, that was a loss, you know, it was a great decision, best decision

Addressing Misconceptions About Egg Donor Attachments

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for me and him, but, um, that was a loss. So there's always going to be that kind of like a emotion behind it. Whereas the egg donation was like a decision I chose to make. Um,
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Yeah, it's been so much fun watching her grow up and change. And like, she's just so cute. I might be biased, but she's so cute. I think we all say that about the babies in our lives. Yeah, right. Yeah.
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What do you wish people understood about... donors an attachment? Because i know for me as a surrogate, you know, every that's like the number one question that I get is, you know, like, how can you give up a baby? And I always respond with, I'm not giving up. I'm giving back was never my baby. I love that answer. Exactly. Like, what do you wish people understood from that donor perspective?
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I think I wish people knew that like, I don't want that baby. Like I love her. Like again, I love her. She's cute. She's precious. I don't want her. If I wanted a baby, I would go have a baby, you know? um Cause I get, I get the same question sometimes. Like I've had friends ask me, do you feel like motherly towards her? Like some kind of like maternal instinct or like connection. And I'm like, no, cause she's not my baby. So I wish people knew that. Like,
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There have been comments from some people like she's going to like you shouldn't invite her to come meet the baby like she's going to want to take the baby and it's and I've never I've never wanted that you know. Yeah. How do you when you see those comments and you know how do you navigate those and how do your intended parents navigate those.
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Really, you just got to educate them and kill them with kindness. Like, you know, just tell him she doesn't want the baby. I don't want that baby. i mean, i tell Zach that all the time. I'm like, love her to death.
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you can have her like keep right no you can take like the 2am like I'm good I'm gonna sleep that part yeah like that's that's their baby you know it just happens to be my part of my genetic material is what helped create her so yeah yeah I just I wish people got that more that's probably like one of the number one things people ask me it's like you know do you feel maternal towards her like do you want her like did you want her you know Yeah. Your relationships with the families that you've helped create have been so meaningful. And now you're actually preparing for a unidentified donation, which is a different experience. Totally. What when went into you know that decision? Yeah.
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Um, that was, ah again, it was kind of like with my first one where I got the text and it was pretty much a no brainer for me. Like, of course it was like, oh my gosh, am I really going to do this? But at the same time, like, yeah, I'm going to do this of course. And then knowing what I know now and what, how much my donation meant to Zach and Scott and like seeing their little family and how much love there is. I'm just, I'm really excited to do it again.
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Yeah. Is there anything that feels different emotionally this time around? Yeah. i was I was actually just talking about that the other day with Zach. as like I think I feel more emotional this time because i do know Zach. So I'm like, as I'm going through all the steps, I'm telling Zach and he's telling me how he experienced it going through our cycle, like his point of view as an intended parent. So I feel like I'm thinking about this new set of intended parents even more.
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Um, because I know Zach and Scott and I'm like, wow, like they're probably really emotional right now and they're probably anxiously waiting the results and they're probably really nervous. And this was probably a really hard decision for them. So, um, yeah, I think I feel more emotional this time because I know I've seen the impact of it. So, yeah.
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Yeah. Has that changed how you're just entering, you know, just this cycle with kind of having, because I think we all to some level know some of those things about, you know, just when you're entering this world and, you know, in knowing what you're doing and, you know, it's going to have an impact, but like you said,
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having now, you know, a best friend and seeing the other side of it and listening to somebody, you know, talk about it in real time. Is that, has that changed at all? Kind of how you're going through just this cycle?
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Maybe in some ways, like I, again, I'm just thinking, it I'm just thinking about them through every step. Like they're just on my mind for even the little, like going to get my AMH drawn or like I had my day three of my cycle ultrasound and I'm thinking about them and like,
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I wonder what they're thinking and I hope they're getting the results quick. You know, I'm just, yeah, it's definitely more emotional and meaningful this time around, I think.
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Knowing that, again, you have such a close relationship with Zach and Scott and now, you know, there's, There's going to be a new donor sibling, you know, out in the world. Has that played, you know, how is, how are those conversations? Have they thought about that? What is, you know, what are you thinking about that as you're, you know, just going through all of this?
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um I think it's, you know, it's pretty crazy to think about. um My first call after I got that text was to Zach because I was like, I need to tell him. And they're really excited. I mean, anytime I talk to them about how they're feeling, they're just so excited for the this new intended parent couple. And yeah, I'm sure, i mean, that's their daughter's going to have a genetic half sibling. Yeah, I think they're excited for me and for them.
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Yeah, for sure. Having experienced, you know, again, that close relationship with Zach and Scott and then now stepping into the unidentified cycle, what would you want potential egg donors to understand about just both options?
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um I mean... They're gonna be very different. You don't know what you're gonna get. you know You don't know how that relationship can or will evolve. So you kind of just have to go into it knowing that. like I might not ever get contact with this new couple, you know or maybe I'll get very minimal contact. And you just have to you know be okay with that and accept that and i' still you know realize the impact of your donation. and Yeah.
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Yeah. What do you, I mean, again, with that in mind, what do you think people misunderstand about a woman's motivation to be an egg donor?

Beyond Financial Compensation in Egg Donation

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I think a lot of people, of course, their first question is, well, how much money are you going to make? or you know, people immediately go there, like, how much did they pay you? So, um and it's so much more than that. I mean, you're,
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literally changing someone's life, you know, you're helping them create a family and it's just so beautiful and like rewarding and like emotionally. And especially now that I get to see actually witness the impact of it, like it's just, it's so much more than a check, you know?
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Yeah, for sure. and I mean, I feel like you, that's that motive, that motivation always has to be there. Because you might, like you said, you might not see or hear, and but you have to know
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that you are making such a big impact. And yes, of course, financially, it's wonderful. But right at the end of the day, you have to you have to have a good why. Yes, exactly. And you just have to accept that, yeah, you might not get to get any updates, but you know that you still made that impact and you and you helped someone. so Yeah, exactly.
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Across you know but these donation journeys, you know now you're you're in the midst of one, what has kind of helped you feel respected and valued and supported as a donor?
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Yeah. um For me, it's it's the communication. It's, you know, between the clinic and my coordinator, um the communication, knowing the next steps, the next steps being explained to me because, yeah, I've done this before, but it feels like, I mean, it's almost been two years, so it it feels like a long time ago. Sure. And I'm like, wait, is the AMH next or do I have to do this? Like, am I doing a psyche valve? Do I need to go to the doctor? Like,
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It's yeah, just having that communication and like organization has been really helpful to know what's next because I feel like I feel like I'm and also this cycle is a traveling cycle where my first one was local. So that also changes things. That's been a little different. So just having that open line of communication with my clinic, both clinics and my coordinator has been really helpful.
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Hmm. For sure. You have gone to socials and in such a beautiful way, because I think you bring, I mean, you do a great job of educating and bringing, you know, your personal experience to you know so many people.
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What are maybe some of the main questions that you get and what's kind of the go-to misinformation that you wish you could just totally dispel?
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Um, Good question. And thank you for saying that. um I think one of the most common questions people ask is like, Um, how did you do it? Like, where did you go to do it? What website, how do I sign up?
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So you got the luck of the draw of Google leading you, you know, to yeah reputable, you know, place. Yes. What do you say to, you know, people when they do ask you that question, how do you do it? Where do you start? What made you go agency versus egg bank and, you know, just those kinds of things.
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Um, yeah, I research, research, research. I like, again, you, like you said, I think I got lucky because I don't know if I did much research, to be honest. I think I was just kind of like landed. I mean, I've done research since then, but when I originally signed up, I think I just got lucky and found you guys. But um yeah, do your research and um research egg bank versus agency because one might be better for you. You know, I think for me, I i like the agency route. Of course, I haven't gone through an egg bank, but um you know, weigh out the pros and cons and see which one feels right for you.
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Yeah, for sure. Are there any other, you know, just myths or misinformation that you feel like that you are wanting to, you know, or have the ability to dispel, you know, as you're using your own platform and then just now speaking, you know, in the seat that you're sitting in?
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um A lot of people think that when you donate your eggs, you're donating all of your eggs and you can never have kids. And i it's kind of funny because you're not. I wouldn't i wouldn't do this if that's what was going to happen. You know, I want kids one day. So that's one of the big, like, misconceptions, I think, is people thinking that, like, oh, you can't have kids now. Yeah.
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And you can, you can still have kids after donating. Yeah, ah for sure. We actually, there's, um, it's, it's Dr. Have Been, um, who we've had on the podcast a couple of times. She's at RE at Dallas IVF and she has like the best way of describing what it is, like what egg donation is as far as like, no, no, no. You have like millions of eggs. And she like, she uses like a whole like sports metaphor of like, you're just pulling out like everybody from the bench instead of just your one star player. but Yes. it's Brilliant.
00:22:10
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Oh, I love that. I love that explanation. That's a great way to put it. Yeah. But it is so interesting, you know, kind of how not everybody has a full understanding of, you know, just the biology behind it.
00:22:23
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Right. Yeah. Yeah. There's, I mean, there's so much that goes into it and, you know, I didn't, I've learned a lot along my two journeys now. So there's so much that goes into it and there's so much to learn. And I just love the fertility world in general. Like I just love, I love learning about that stuff. That's why I love talking about it. Like it's just,
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I love it. For sure. Have you felt like, you know, just for you as a woman going through this, I feel like one of the main things that I hear or one of the consistent things I hear whenever I'm speaking to egg donors is they find, they do find out so much about their own health history and just their own, you know, fertility health in general.

Health Insights for Egg Donors

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Yeah, that was um that was one of the bonuses to doing egg donation is you do get to find out those things. You know, you get your AMH, which is your ovarian reserve and the ultrasounds and the genetic testing is a big one.
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That was really interesting for me because mine came back normal. I think I had one little thing that like, was insignificant. um But yeah, you get, you get to do all the, and then like the psychological evaluation. So it's not just the, you know, monetary compensation. You get to learn a lot about your body and your health. And that is a huge plus for me. Yeah, for sure. if just for someone who is listening and wondering if a donation, you know, could be right for them, what would you want them to know before they took that first step? Mm-hmm.
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I would want them to know that it can be so rewarding and beautiful and and it's it's worth it. It's so worth it. Yeah. Was there anything that maybe surprised you in the best way?
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I think my relationship with my intended parents, for sure. i mean, it's got to be that. i never expected this. Hmm. When you are thinking about those families that you've helped and just the role that you've played, what is the type of just feelings that you get and you know, what maybe brings you the most fulfillment?
00:24:25
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I think it's the, the best way to describe it is just like overwhelming, but in a good way, like just happiness. And like, um, it is very fulfilling and like what, what really makes me feel fulfilled is like seeing the parents with their children. Like, it's just so, it's like, this is what they wanted and they're so happy. And like all the little moments, you know, like go into a soccer game or like she started crawling or she's making this silly face or like, you know, all those small moments. It's just like, yes this is amazing. This is so beautiful.
00:24:59
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Yeah. You're, you helped someone make memories. Yeah. Yeah. For, you know, again, your experience, is there any advice that you would want to give to any potential or current egg donors?
00:25:14
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no ah good A good piece of advice would be to like advocate for yourself, ask questions. um I think this time around, since I kind of am familiar with the process, I've been asking more questions because I i kind of know what to expect and i and I know more about it. And so I want you know, I want more information. I want to be, i don't know how to word it.
00:25:38
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I just, just ask questions, you know, like it's okay to be curious. And it it is like, yes, you're doing this for someone else, but you are the one donating your eggs. You know, you're the one going through all the screenings and the doctor's appointments and the medication. So like ask questions if something doesn't feel right or something isn't working, like speak up.
00:25:56
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Yeah. What are maybe just like some, some go-to questions that you would suggest a donor
00:26:05
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Ask about, you know, the timeline, the medications, you know, appointments, you know, there's so much that goes into it. Like when you're actually doing the stems and the medications, there's so many appointments. So yeah, i just really anything you can do to be prepared for all of it that goes into it.
00:26:26
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Yeah, for sure. it is a situation where you don't just, you know, you have the ability to not just blindly follow and, you know, say yes, but exactly like you said, be curious. And it is really helpful when you do have not only the clinic, but also a coordinator. Yes, absolutely. Because sometimes...
00:26:46
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The clinic can be, I love my clinics, all the clinics I've used so far, but sometimes they don't explain things as well, maybe as the coordinator would, you know, they'll send me results and i'm like, okay, what does that mean? Like, I need someone to explain this to me.
00:27:00
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Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's a world of acronyms. So you don't know what you don't know. Oh my gosh. There's so many acronyms. Yeah. There's many. For sure. Oh my gosh. No, I think that's beautiful. And I mean, I think that's just across the board in general, whether you're an intended parent, you know, a surrogate or a donor, especially in the world of medicine, it is okay to ask questions and there is no dumb question. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:26
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Yeah. Oh, I love that.

Morgan's Impact Through Egg Donation and Surrogacy

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Well, Morgan, I mean, truly your, your journeys are just so beautiful. And i mean, you have blessed so many families and I'm so excited for you and you know, this journey and, you know, how you're just going to continue to you know just help change so many lives. And I just feel so honored that we get to work with you and that I get to talk to you. I have one last question for you and it's a fun one.
00:27:54
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um For anyone who knows me, they know that me and coffee are never far from each other. And so I always love to ask the question, what has filled your cup literally or figuratively? What has been the thing that has filled your cup?
00:28:11
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Ooh, okay. coffee this morning for sure. oh if we're going literal and then, um, ah just the holidays, the Christmas decorate. I'm looking at my Christmas tree right now. Like I love this time a year. And then for specifically today, the Taylor Swift arrows tour docu-series is what's filling my cup.
00:28:30
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I, as soon as we're done here, I'm putting that on the TV. Girl. Yes. Girl. Yes. My 13 year old like came downstairs and was like, I only get to watch like 10 minutes of it, but I have to it's like, yeah let's do it. Right.
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I love it. That's amazing. Well, seriously, Morgan, thank you so much for your time. and um And thank you just for all you've done and all you're doing. Thank you. And thank you for having me. This was so fun.
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Good. Yay.
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