College Football Playoff Rankings Excitement
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Zack
What is up? Welcome to the next podcast. We have a big day today. The college football playoff rankings are here. The playoffs are set. We have reactions to that reactions to what turned into a pretty wild conference championship Saturday.
Tins' Rural Delivery Adventures
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Zack
ah Some games coming down to the wire. Too bad none of them matter. To the playoff committee. Well, we're going to get there. Tins back with us today.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm back. i Yeah, the mid...
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, our ah weekday episodes are a little tough with peak right now. um I've been out in the country delivering packages.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm literally out like in the middle of nowhere.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I feel like I hear banjos in the distance when I'm out in these rural...
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's a little scary. Now you're gonna lie. I wish people...
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Zack
Just making Christmas dreams come true.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, people don't have street lights. People don't have...
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Floodlights on their house numbers on their mailbox just kind of out there winging it And I'm driving a u-haul that's the that's the best part of being a ah seasonal driver is Yeah, so I'm on what's called second sort.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So that means all the normal routes go out and then we get everything that's left um We don't have enough package cars for everyone so I have to drive a u-haul and
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And people
Newborn Challenges & Humor
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
don't know, so when you roll up in someone's driveway at seven o'clock at night and you're in Hartsfield, Tennessee, which is an hour, it's it's in the middle of nowhere, almost in Kentucky.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Yeah, people are like, ah why is there a U-Haul on my driveway? So as soon as you hop out, you just start hauling UPS, please don't shoot, UBS.
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Zack
shoot me and those are the people that would that could shoot you potentially they're just like why are you here so late
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, for sure. i've I've gotten multiple complaints already about me pulling up and people just driveway at night.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's like, I don't know, you live an hour and 20 minutes away from.
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Zack
in and not in a UPS truck.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, so is what it is.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's fun times. It's only for a couple more weeks.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then having a newborn at the same time, that's that was.
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Zack
Yeah, not easy, probably for sure.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah It's a fun little, fun little wrinkle. He, I mean, he sleeps good, but he only sleeps for about three hours and then he's ready to eat.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Then he goes back to sleep, but it's, it's still like a three hour nap is not ideal.
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Zack
Yeah. It sucks. It's not forever, which you know, but it is.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
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Zack
It's very tough. The first like two months is like, oh, you feel like you're dying.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. And he, he hates. He hates like diaper changes with a passion and baths like anytime.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not just fully clothed. The kid is screaming He does not like being naked And you know, this is our first son so we we weren't really prepared for The level of peeing everywhere, but he can just he'll just rip one off and just pee on you Yeah, it's it's you got to keep your head on a swivel out here it fast diaper changes if you're taking too long you're gonna get it
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Zack
Hmm projectile, yeah there's some party that always feels like it's like intentional They're like, you know what I hate this watch this To like train you yeah, I you just feel like they're they're doing it on purpose.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
A little bit. It's like, oh, okay. This is taking too long. Get rekt.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
NFL Draft Speculations & Trades
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Good fee. ah And that's a getting peed on segment of the day of the week.
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Zack
There you go. Hey, that's good stuff right there.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But he ah he did get to witness his first Jaguars win.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Big one today, Jags Titans.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're going to do a full breakdown of it. It's a really important game. Just joking. ah For anyone, for whoever was just sick enough in the head to watch that full game, myself included, ah congrats.
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Zack
Literally no one wants to hear that.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like I don't know why we anyone put ourselves through that.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and like The Titans losing didn't even put them at the first overall pick.
The Complexities of Tanking in Sports
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jax went from first to fifth and like the Titans moved up to third overall Right now the Raiders are on the clock Which would support my theory of Shador Sanders going there and Dion becoming the head coach That happens I've got text say where I called that back in early September Yeah,
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Zack
I've thought a lot about the tank recently because of our teams.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
mm-hmm
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Zack
And like, I understand that you can't really ask your players to tank really for two reasons.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
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Zack
Like one is you don't want your fan base to turn on you, which fan base is just you don't appreciate the tank very much. Typically, sort people like season tickets who have paid a lot of money to go to games.
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Zack
They don't want to see you just like throw games. And then you don't wanna like, if you're a ah player, you wanna play hard because you never know what where you're gonna be next and if you're gonna get traded and then all of a sudden you don't want all that stuff on film of you playing bad.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
So the tank is hard to pull off um to like a really high degree. But you also feel like, like do you do you actually think that organizations ever sit down and
Jaguars' Tanking Strategy for Trevor Lawrence
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Zack
they're like, I think we should try and lose this game?
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Zack
Like behind closed doors, does that conversation happen?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know that that happened the year the Jaguars got the first overall pick went in Trevor's draft year.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Because so Gardner Minshew broke his thumb and we won our week one game against the c Colts. It's the only game we won all year, ah which kept the the stre which kept the streak alive of the Colts losing in Jacksonville.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But he broke his thumb at the end of the game and didn't say anything to anyone. And then just decided he was going to play the next week. Well, he couldn't grip a football. So then our backup quarterback was Mike Glennon.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So. i I know that we tanked on purpose because Gardner Minshew's thumb healed and we left him on IR. He was cleared to come back, but Gardner Minshew, who had like a fun rookie year, one of some games we probably shouldn't have won, had a decent second year with the Jags as well. um So I do think our organization said, no, do not put Gardner Minshew back on that field, because we'll win games that we don't want to, because we now own the first overall pick. It was like towards the end of the season.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah because the Jets went and won meaningless football games. And that's how we end up with Trevor instead of Zach Wilson.
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Zack
it's interesting That's That's why like, relegation happens in soccer.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If the Jaguars had drafted Zach Wilson, I would have burned.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
There's an argument for that. That would take the thinking out of the equation.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't think it happens much in the NFL um just because it's It is really hard to ask 11 guys to do something. Like even if you put bad players in your lineup, there's enough good players to kind of cover up that. I think those Jax games were so bad that we didn't honestly, like it was so bad. And then you just put in a really bad quarterback, like what the Giants are doing right now. I think the Giants are like tanking on purpose. They're putting in Drew Lock, who's terrible. They started Tommy DeVito, who is even worse.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah like They're bad. They're calling bad plays like Malik neighbors, their rookie um wide receiver has been calling out to play calls like just saying like, what are we doing?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We act like I'm not even on the field. Like, why are we not throwing me the ball? So I think you you can happen in football. It's a little bit harder. I think that's why you see it happen. NBA a lot because you can just put five guys that probably have no business being on an NBA court for starters minutes.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then those teams lose a lot.
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Zack
The starters don't want to play anyways for these garbage teams.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's why I like the lottery system kind of. It kind of takes out.
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Zack
It doesn't guarantee it.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, you have no guarantee of getting the first overall pick.
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Zack
I think it's better for sure.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think it is better.
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Zack
I mean, it does sometimes there will be a good team that gets much better.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
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Zack
That's like the other side is sometimes it just doesn't fall or like it falls the wrong way and all of a sudden.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Especially the NBA like they trade picks like You could trade picks for like 2030 but there's teams that do that teams that don't have like their first round pick for the next six years because they traded for Kyra Irving or you know did something crazy like that and traded for a big-time player and then mortgage their future for like a small window to win championships and then and then it doesn't happen and then their team is really bad and then those picks end up being lottery picks and so it's kind of
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Kind of like what you see with the Thunder, the Thunder, that's how they built their team.
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Zack
It's pretty big gambling, yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Their whole team's just full of top lottery picks because they traded away all the, like Kevin Durant and Westbrook and, and got all these teams, uh, future picks.
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Zack
Let's see, it's but it's an interesting way to like say we're going to be bad for a couple of seasons, but there is a ah future, potentially.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. And with NBA, you can, I mean, it just takes one. It takes one player. That's what's crazy about basketball.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You can, if you have one truly like difference maker of a, of a player on the court, you can win the whole thing.
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Zack
Anthony Edwards, or I mean, he's kind of been the guy, but there are there are a lot of those players in the NBA.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
When Mignana is about to be one, he's about to be a problem.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like dominate the league kind of problem. I've been watching a lot of basketball and a guy that size should not be able to handle a ball and move the way he does.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's it's honestly scary watching him.
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Zack
Do you think he's actually gonna like change the league and see the guy to do it?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i think I think he could He could have like an effect like LeBron did in his prime where it's like, what do you do? Like you can't really beat him.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You kind of have to just like, I don't know. You kind of try to get lucky. Like he could run the West.
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Zack
Let him get his 35 or 40 and then just
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Like he's going to do what he's going to do. But that's the thing about women. Yana is like, yeah, he's good score. He's, he's averaging like 25 right now, but defensively he can change how you,
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like to try and score because he can literally go up to contest a layup.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And if you pass out to, you know, kick out for a three point shot within one step, he can then close out and, and affect your shot.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's so, he is, it's yeah, he's seven, six with like the longest wingspan in the NBA history. Like it's ridiculous.
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Zack
It's pretty fun. I think it's it's a fun like.
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Zack
guy to watch very different than anybody else that's like doing that.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's fun to watch, he's very fun to watch. Yeah.
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Zack
Obviously, KD is like tall and can shoot, but he's not playing defense like that.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he But yeah, but he's like, he's KD but six inches taller.
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Zack
That's true. Yeah, that's crazy. z It's like between me and like a six five guy.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's crazy.
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Zack
It's a pretty big difference, you know?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's crazy. And he's just, he's so it's, it's fun. I kind of wish he would have played a year of college basketball, just to see where he would have been like on a team.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cause it would have been a freak show.
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Zack
Yeah, the Zack Edie verse women Yama like match up would have been hilarious.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's the things that women Yana plays like small forward.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He doesn't even line up at center. He's just really tall.
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Zack
Just like the headlines.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
I'm pretty excited to get into some college basketball soon.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's been good. I've been been watching it, listening to a lot of just random games while I'm driving. It's going to be a fun college basketball season, I think. I know we did a lot of it last year. um Once football wraps up, we'll kind of do some more deep dive information and breakdowns of some college basketball. but
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Zack
There's a new number one in the country.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who was it? Duke?
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Zack
It's your Tennessee volunteers.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow.
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Zack
They were number three last week and number one and two lost. And here we are.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The new Kansas lost. Wow. I didn't know. See, I, uh, I don't, I'm pretty down on UT's basketball team coming into the season, to be honest.
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Zack
They had to replace a lot of pieces. A lot of veterans like graduated. They had to replace a lot of parts, but they went out in the portal and they got a couple of guys who are playing very, very well right now.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
um Chas Lanier was like he's he's honestly adult and connect type like like born scorer Has been putting up a lot of points, but there's a couple of like a kapara from Ohio State as A as a big man has been very effective so far.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Score. Yeah.
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Zack
There's a couple guys who are being um difference makers and across the court, and then you're also returning. John Meshack, Sakai Ziegler, defensive player of the year. So defense is solid.
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Zack
You got a couple of offensive pieces. Kate Phillips is playing better. it's The team is is surprisingly cohesive for it being so many new pieces to it.
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Zack
So we'll get there. and We've got college ball playoffs looming, and we're here sitting here talking college basketball, but in the NBA.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
But we are excited about it.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Check that off your bingo cards.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um One more bingo card item really quick. This isn't a baseball podcast, but ah just just was announced. Juan Soto signs a 15 year $765 million dollar deal with the New York Mets.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Crosstown rival leaves the Yankees. He said he had no loyalty that was that you know Juan Soto Did the best thing ever for his agent and himself where he said I have no emotional attachment to any team It's whoever's gonna give me the biggest check.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's where I'm gonna sign and boy Diddy, that's crazy
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Zack
Wasn't sent 15 years is crazy If he chooses to retire had like a devastating injury for sure Put him out for
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know, but baseball contracts are 100% guaranteed. Meaning, if he decided to retire after one year of this contract, he still gets it.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's something like, yeah, baseball contracts are like crazy like that. well it But there's like that guy from the Mets, they pay him a million dollars every year, what's his name? Bobby something.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And they've been doing that for like 15 years. He's been retired that long because they like deferred his contract in some weird way.
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Zack
Holy cow. $765 million dollars is like an incomprehensible amount of money.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Is that more than Shohei got?
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Zack
I think and the quantity is higher because it's over 15 years.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
I think so Show Hayes wasn't, it was like five years. It wasn't close to 15.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, and his was weird where like it didn't start paying him his big money until later on.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
total I think his was 10 years. 10 years sounds right.
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Zack
That could be right.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But yeah, baseball contracts are nutty.
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Zack
Oh, it was 10 years, 700 million.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's crazy that Soto got more than him.
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Zack
So his, well, Otani's was more per year, but because it was five more years, it was like a bigger quantity, which he probably just wanted to have the biggest contract ever.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, especially
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
That was probably part of his part of his whole thing was like, I just want to have the biggest contract ever.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
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Zack
I don't care how many years it is just.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's crazy.
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Zack
I want it to be bigger than show ice.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shohei pitches. Well, he will eventually give it back to pitching and hitting. But that's pretty crazy. I don't know if that makes the Mets like ah super good or anything, but
Marathon Cancellation Chaos
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You know who's not gonna like that?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Josh. Josh hates the Mets. The Mets and Braves are like archrivals.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know that much about baseball.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Bitter rivals.
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Zack
That's very interesting.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So there we go. Broke some baseball news.
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Zack
Some baseball talk right there.
00:17:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, now now the way everyone actually cares about, let's, the meat and potatoes, fat to fast.
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Zack
The meat and potatoes. Fats fast.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, what do we what what's going on?
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Zack
All right, everybody.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah I heard we're canceling something.
00:17:45
Zack
I do have some news for everybody out there. If you've been following my Fats Fast journey, ah you know that I've been training since May, which is insanity.
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Zack
I did some math this week. I've run over 300 miles now in training for a half marathon.
00:18:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's crazy
00:18:06
Zack
You might could say that doesn't make any sense and you would be right. I was supposed to run this in like September and then in October and November and here on December still haven't run it yet.
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Zack
And so I officially announced last week that I was signing up for a half marathon. I did. Days later, I received an email. that because there could there were not not enough volunteers, they were canceling the event. So shout out to me, because now I've got to find another one. ah There is another one at a local park happening on the same day, so I signed up for it. I went and ran the course pretty hilly, I will say. It's like three laps, but I signed up for that one. So this I have less than a week now until the half marathon is happening. If I die, I die.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shout out Matt Rule.
00:18:57
Zack
If I hit my goals, I think all my goals are still in play.
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Zack
Um, it may very well kill me. I think with a person where it's like, I'm not going to be able to stop. Like once I get going, I could literally be like dying and I think I would keep going.
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Zack
I will hit my goal. Um, which I think I can't, I don't think it's unrealistic. I've, I've, like I said, I've run 300 miles. It's not like I'm out of shape. Um, I think we're going to be good. So that's my fat fest update by next, by our well Monday episode next week. I will have some, uh, I'll have a full race recap for everybody. Make sure you tune in.
00:19:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What I want to know is how many volunteers does it take to coordinate a half marathon? How many people they need?
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Zack
well here's the problem uh...
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
how many people they need
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Zack
so some half marathons do like a loop because then you only have to cover like four miles instead of thirteen miles thirteen miles is a long way to like because you usually have like three or four aid stations where they have water they have like uh...
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Zack
snacks whatever along the way and you also have to kind of
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
Make sure people aren't cheating to an extent. Like you have to have a certain number of people along the route to make sure people aren't like cutting corners and they're actually following the route correctly. But 13 miles, even if it's every half mile, that's 26 people. You have to get out there on the course somewhere. And so I guess it does take into certain amount of people. It's, it's very annoying. They decided a week before it to cancel it because I was not going to push this to January.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:20:44
Zack
My wife would kill me at this point. It's got to happen.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
She has she ready for you to be done training for this thing.
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Zack
She served me to be done getting up at like six in the morning every Saturday and going and running for two hours and then going.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
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Zack
I mean, it's just big time expenditures. The the higher your mileage goes, like you're running nine miles, that's that's an hour and a half of actual running, not mentioning driving there, driving bag, warming up, all the stuff that goes along with it.
00:21:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All the extra laundry from all your sweaty clothes, all the puke.
00:21:16
Zack
Definitely. We're also now in like a it's it's cold outside situation. um Honestly, I don't mind it. It's kind of it's better than it being hot outside. You can throw on some like leggings and a long sleeve shirt and it's not horrible. But it is something else to consider when I started training.
00:21:39
Zack
It was like 95 degrees and I was getting up at 5 a.m. to avoid the heat. And now at 5 a.m., it's dark and freezing. So it's ah it's a different experience now. Yeah, for sure. But we're going to we're getting it done. So for everybody out there, I'm going to report back.
00:21:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Did, uh, did you have to do the Clydesdale division for this as well? Or did they not have that?
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Zack
No, they don't have a Klaizel division, unfortunately, which I'm kind of bummed because it means that was my only chance of like actually getting a medal or something, because there's no way I'm going to be able to compete in actual divisions with my time that I'm anticipating.
00:22:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:22:15
Zack
I mean, it's not going to be I'll probably be middle of the pack. um I'm shooting for a 10 minute pace, which is not slow.
00:22:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:22:21
Zack
I feel like people with a 15 or 16 minute pace who walk a lot, which is fine. But there are also be people running like a seven minute pace, which are just could never touch right now.
00:22:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
more power to those people.
00:22:33
Zack
Those are the very small people who run a lot and the like cross country kids.
00:22:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Those people are insane.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
suppose
00:22:43
Zack
Yeah, it's not me for sure. But I'm excited. I've tried to I've been running just kind of making sure I'm I'm in race shape. It's not ideal for sure. I've been in better shape in the last seven months than I am right now. Holidays have taken toll. But i Think we're gonna get it done
College Football Playoffs Controversies
00:23:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. Well, now that we've done NBA and college basketball, fat to fast baseball, I guess we'll talk about this little thing. I don't know if you've heard about it. The college football football playoffs were announced today. We're, uh, yeah. I mean, we'll just dive on in and we had a conference championship weekend. Uh,
00:23:09
Zack
Yeah, we've discovered everything oh Yeah, we're back Yeah It honestly
00:23:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
not a lot of takeaways.
00:23:31
Zack
There's only one game that really mattered. And that was, that was the ACC championship.
00:23:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:37
Zack
Uh, that one is the one that truly kind of messed things up for really for Alabama, which yeah, Clemson wins on the last second field goal.
00:23:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Alabama.
00:23:50
Zack
Um, that was Sweeney gets into the playoff. Alabama is sad and all their fans are up in arms about the whole process or whatever.
00:24:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
well Don't lose.
00:24:02
Zack
I'm just going to be honest with you. I just, this is going to sound bad. Any Alabama fan wanting any kind of sympathy for me can just look elsewhere because I just have nothing to give zero.
00:24:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:24:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Zero.
00:24:17
Zack
I have zero sympathy to give to a three loss team who is crying about not making the playoff.
00:24:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sorry.
00:24:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, don't lose to Oklahoma by multiple touchdowns.
00:24:28
Zack
Don't lose the Vandy.
00:24:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Don't lose the Vandy. Don't lose. I mean losing the Tennessee is not a bad loss. That's that that's fine. That's the only acceptable loss of the three that they have, but. yeah Yeah, I'm sorry.
00:24:42
Zack
They can say whatever they want.
00:24:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
you Yeah.
00:24:43
Zack
i just It will fall on deaf ears.
00:24:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, legitimately, I would, I would have put Miami in there over them. I'm trying to think like South Carolina probably.
00:24:58
Zack
i mean the question is um south carolina is If you're going on like which team it I think is like will perform the best, I think South Carolina would be the team.
00:25:09
Zack
If you're talking about resumes only, I think Ole Miss has a pretty good argument.
00:25:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Illinois could have had a decent argument.
00:25:19
Zack
Other than all that, I just, I don't know that SMU like deserves this spot, but I just, I can't feel bad for Alabama, I'm sorry.
00:25:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, no, but like we talked about, you couldn't leave SMU out because then you're putting, then you, then you open up the can of worms of.
00:25:37
Zack
You'd have had to drop Texas. I mean, they did drop Texas a little bit, but not really.
00:25:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:41
Zack
Actually, they put them into five spot and they put Penn State at the seven, I think. And so.
00:25:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Six. Notre Dame ended up at seven, which I was surprised about.
00:25:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I really thought Notre Dame would have hopped up to the five.
00:25:59
Zack
Which really is what we've been predicting all along. That's we've been saying this is the beginning. I didn't think they could they could I think that the playoff is too scared of upsetting conferences who really like their championship games to mess with that too much.
00:26:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:14
Zack
And so that didn't surprise me.
00:26:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I really, at the end of the day, I don't even think ah if SMU would have lost badly last night. I mean, maybe if we're talking about 30 points, they could have got left out of the playoff.
00:26:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But I think no matter what, you couldn't have punished them because then you know what SMU would have done at the ACC meetings this ah spring.
00:26:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They would have said, hey, let's throw out a vote where we get rid of conference championships because obviously they don't matter. We lost and then we didn't even get in the playoff.
00:26:42
Zack
I think would not happen anyways.
00:26:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, there's there's probably
00:26:45
Zack
Yeah. Carson Beck being injured in the SSC championship may, uh, that's definitely going to be conversation as well.
00:26:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:54
Zack
Why is it worth us risking our, our players in this championship? That doesn't really matter very much. Maybe.
00:27:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think i so. Speaking of conference championships, this is this is a take that I have. isn' I've heard other people say it and I hardly I agree with it a lot. I think going into next year that conference championship winners should not be the auto buys, I think.
00:27:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
it gets you a spot in the playoffs, but the best four teams should be the top four seats.
00:27:29
Zack
Kind of like the NCAA Championship for college basketball.
00:27:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like just because you get a spot, you won your conference, congratulations, but it doesn't guarantee you one of the top four seats.
00:27:43
Zack
I think that's right. Yeah, you can fight for it.
00:27:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cause like, um
00:27:46
Zack
I mean, you're going to you're going to shot at the dance, but you're not getting preferential treatment because you won the. Now in the West.
00:27:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. Because Arizona State, they've played very well the last few weeks. They they got hot at the right time.
00:28:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm i'm glad they got in. But to look at that side of the bracket where it's Boise State and Arizona State, like that's, you've gifted Penn State or Notre, like at Georgia, like you've gifted that side of the bracket with what feels like an easier path because it's lesser, like those teams just are, like a Boise State and an Arizona State, no offense.
00:28:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You don't have the athletes that a Penn State or Georgia or not or even even Notre Dame has.
00:28:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So that's, that's what, that's one thing I would love to see changed is just the top four teams.
00:28:41
Zack
Yeah, the seeding is a disaster.
00:28:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The seating is a disaster. I agree.
00:28:45
Zack
Which has been talked about. I mean, Oregon pulls probably the worst draw in the entire field as the one overall seed.
00:28:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:28:53
Zack
They've got to play the winner of Tennessee Ohio State in the second round, which. I mean. They already they be Ohio State by one point on in the home field. They'll be playing at a neutral site in the Rose Bowl.
00:29:07
Zack
Which would be fun. That would be man, Tennessee in the Rose Bowl be awesome. But then so either of those teams is going to be more challenging than like a. I don't know, SMU or. Arizona State, you know, one of those teams and they got the absolute worst draw. I think if you're Oregon, you're very upset, even though this is kind of how everyone knew was going to shake out. It still becomes very frustrating where just like. The bottom of both of these brackets you have.
00:29:41
Zack
Texas, who is the five C, cause they lost this as the championship gets to play Clemson in the first round in Austin, a Clemson team that is extremely flawed.
00:29:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Clemson team is not like, what's their good win?
00:29:58
Zack
this is not your Clemson that you think of typically.
00:29:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah so Right. Their good win is against SMU.
00:30:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
who this is there like SMU is a team that come that came from the American conference. This isn't a big powerhouse school. They're a good program, but they're not the same level of big powerhouse schools with huge amounts of five-star talent everywhere. like Clemson lost to South Carolina.
00:30:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They got absolutely demolished by Georgia and they got beat by Louisville.
00:30:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So the three times they played good teams, they lost.
00:30:35
Zack
So we're playing Texas and then they we will play the winner of that will play Arizona State in the second round. In Texas, that's a pretty nice draw. On the other side, Penn State has SMU in the first round.
00:30:48
Zack
Then the winner of that game goes and plays Boise State in the second round.
00:30:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:53
Zack
I mean, what are we talking about?
00:30:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What it but a gift to Penn State. Legently, Oregon would have been better off to lose last night, on Saturday night.
00:31:01
Zack
There is a real argument that that's true. I mean, it is true. It's not really an argument.
00:31:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
it
00:31:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because even then, they would have just fell to the five seed, and the way this shakes out, Oregon would love to have that. like you're There's always a chance, yeah.
00:31:14
Zack
I mean, you obviously are playing an extra game and there's always it adds in. And I think that was always factoring
Strategies for Upcoming Playoff Games
00:31:22
Zack
was like the buy is worth anything is worth everything. You know, you're going to always trade the buy for matchups. I'm just not sure that's 100 percent true.
00:31:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I think if you ask Oregon off the record, hey, would you rather have a bye and then then play a very talented Tennessee or Ohio State team? Or would you rather play week one and have to play Clemson and then Arizona State?
00:31:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think Oregon would say no, let's I'd rather play.
00:31:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like that by is not as important because Ohio State. As much as it's like they're kind of falling apart because they lost the Michigan. They're still very, very talented and Tennessee, very good defense.
00:32:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Samson is a beast at running back and Nico has improved his season going on. Like I think they've kind of figured out some stuff like Tennessee's dangerous.
00:32:14
Zack
Yep, he's better and better all the time. And now it's an extra three weeks of practice, three weeks of getting healthy, getting right.
00:32:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he's a freshman. He's a freshman quarterback. He has gotten better as the season's gone on. Like I don't think Oregon would sign up for what they've been given. If there was a different alternative.
00:32:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And you would.
00:32:34
Zack
I've got watching the comp, watching, I watched the Big 12 or the Big 10 and SC Championship. games And one thing that I just kept thinking the whole time was like, it feels like all of these teams are just abandoning the run game for some reason.
00:32:50
Zack
Especially George, ah to ah to an extent that was almost confounding.
00:32:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:56
Zack
I mean, obviously when Carson Beck went down, you had to open some things up and open the playbook up a little bit. But it's so, it just feels like they're intentionally refusing to run the ball.
00:33:07
Zack
Or maybe there's not very good on the ground. But it feels like a lot of these teams like Ohio State falls into that category as well. Teams that just don't run the ball very effectively. And I think Tennessee isn't a little bit of an out.
00:33:19
Zack
I mean, obviously Boise State is in the category of runs the ball very well. But that's against Mountain West competition.
00:33:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:28
Zack
I think Tennessee could, plays a different brand of football than a lot of teams are playing around the country you right now. um With a run heavy type and I think it could throw some teams off I really like I think that could be a game changer when things are going well You can always just hand the ball off and entrust your guy to get you yardage and big-time scenarios and I think that's that could be a situation where Tennessee's got an advantage on some teams I could see Tennessee rolling into Ohio State and just kind of trying to pound the ball and wear down I think how states a little bit banged up on their defensive
00:34:05
Zack
And that's the offensive line. I think their center is out maybe.
00:34:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
their center and left tackle are out for the season. So I mean, how state that's what was so confusing about how state is the you lost multiple starters on the offensive line and you were just dead set on trying to run the ball at the middle nonstop against what Michigan's only like real strength is their defensive line, especially with both their starting corners were out.
00:34:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So that's where our states just kind of I don't know. They make you scratch your head.
00:34:39
Zack
A little bit. I mean, and so I think at the end of the day, I don't think we've got to sit here and preview all these games. We're going to have plenty of time to do that because we've got an extra like two weeks now before a lot of these games happen.
00:34:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:34:54
Zack
It is interesting. There's a lot of storylines here. This is Tennessee's second ever time playing Ohio State. The first time Eddie George was running back for Ohio State. Pretty electric. It was in like 95.
00:35:08
Zack
ah So these are two teams that really kind of hate each other. And it's pretty fun for like, they they hate each other in a way where they never actually play, but they just the fan bases don't get along very well, which is fun. And I think that's a ah fun part of our playoff. We have Indiana and Notre Dame, which obviously, those are some teams that only play each other very often. SMU Penn State in Clemson, Texas, you just got some fun matchups.
00:35:38
Zack
Some different things which I think is ah is a positive there's been a lot of negatives around this playoff such system right now I mean at the end of the day You're gonna have to play the best teams at some point And and hypo is kind of for Tennessee has been pretty vocal about we're just gonna go beat the team in front of us, you know, if you're
00:35:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:36:04
Zack
You can't sit around and just be like, well, if this was a home, we would have, you just got to go play, you know, Ohio state is beatable.
00:36:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:36:10
Zack
Michigan just did it. Um, pretty convincingly.
00:36:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's a new season.
00:36:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Everybody's zero and zero. Like, there is no more like, oh, what was us? We deserved a home game. It doesn't matter anymore. Win that and then it's neutral sight from there on anyway.
00:36:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I think Hypel is a good coach and he will have the guys focused and ready for that. I like our chances against Ohio State because I think they're in a weird spot right now where
00:36:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think Ryan day, like there's some rumors that Ryan day.
00:36:40
Zack
Their fanbase is in shambles.
00:36:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Like their fan base doesn't know what they want to do. Cause I think part of them says, yes, we'd love to go win the national title, but that Michigan game is so important to them that they would still feel like, Oh no, it wasn't like
00:36:57
Zack
Yeah, half of them want Ronde just to get embarrassed and get fired.
00:37:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, see why I have i saw some rumors that Ryan Day was already looking at other jobs um in the middle of the season because he was he was just kind of tired of this. Like. Like how much success he's had at Ohio State, and it's only he only gets praised or taken down because of what he's done against Michigan, which is he's not beaten. I think he's only beaten him once.
00:37:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Yeah, I don't know they're they're a team that's in a weird spot and you might be able to catch them Where their team might just say hey, you know what we're just done we're done Most of us seniors that decided to come back.
00:37:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That was a mistake. We're leaving anyway, like whatever we're out of here I def Yeah And I just don't think they have the quarterback play.
00:37:45
Zack
I mean, it certainly could be, uh, yeah.
00:37:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've said it once I've said it 4,000 times that I don't think Will Howard is a National title winning quarterback like difference maker in college football He was perfect at Kansas State, right
00:38:00
Zack
Yep. I agree. I agree for sure. I think Will Howard is not a bad quarterback, but I don't think he's like a game changer. I mean, obviously, Ohio State has game changer players, but I don't think quarterback is one of them. And I think they're pretty banged up. like We talked about an the offensive line, which Tennessee's defensive line is solid and has been all season. I just think there's there's a reality where Will Howard is just kind of abused and this game goes a certain way.
00:38:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
James Pierce, three sacks.
00:38:34
Zack
I mean, that'd be pretty awesome.
00:38:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That'd be pretty nice. He's going to look good until Jags aren't picking first overall anymore. So we can't get Travis Hunter.
00:38:43
Zack
Everything's opened up, yeah.
00:38:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nope. I love James Pierce.
00:38:49
Zack
So there now we we kind of buried one storyline so far and that would be, well, we actually didn't bear it. We talked about it a lot already. ah Alabama, ah the Alabama conundrum here.
00:39:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:39:05
Zack
SMU lost, still made the playoff. um Essentially the committee chose to put in an SMU team that had one loss in the regular season plus a conference championship loss.
00:39:17
Zack
over a 3-less Alabama team who has some good wins.
00:39:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Both those losses were only three points.
00:39:23
Zack
Yeah. And SMU's lost some close games. Obviously, that game too. Clemson was very, very tight, which definitely factored in, I think. Bama is up in arms.
00:39:35
Zack
The world is against them.
00:39:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:39:37
Zack
They've never caught a break in their whole lives.
00:39:41
Zack
The committee hates them and is out to get Alabama. Um, the, one of the funnier things I saw was the AD Alabama releasing a press statement, which Nick Saban can only do so much now that he's in his role. But the AD Alabama made said something to along the lines of, uh, we think this is a bad decision. We think we're saying a bad precedent by not looking at sharing the schedule and letting in.
00:40:07
Zack
He didn't say this, but like by letting an ACC teams over an SEC team, you're saying that schedule doesn't matter anymore. In the future, I'm going to look to schedule easier non-conference games, yada, yada, yada, which has been, there's been a lot of, uh, Pearl clutching about the SEC schedules, how there's no way they go to nine SEC games anymore, which is probably true, but about how,
00:40:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hey Zach, who who did Alabama's three losses? What what conference did that come from?
00:40:39
Zack
this is a great question yeah all of them were conference games um and their three losses were to vanderbilt oklahoma six and six oklahoma in a blowout plus uh tennessee on the road and there was a funny community notes that was basically just like none of bama's losses were to non-conference steve or non-conference opponents they were all the car like
00:40:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:41:09
Zack
Schedually g5 teams is not going to help your conference games go the better way um Which is just hilarious because it's exposing I mean Bama can complain all they want about it but as in a day you can't lose three conference games to bad teams and or at least two to bad teams and expect to Just be gifted like it has in the past.
00:41:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:41:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And still get rewarded.
00:41:32
Zack
You don't have an exhibit anymore It did signal a little bit that the committee was like, yeah, we're not giving preferential treatment here. I mean, it happened, whatever, you can say whatever you want about some of the seating being a little questionable. I'm a Tennessee fan, so I'm a little biased there, but I think it is an interesting statement. Now, another, something else that happened is Georgia Kirby Smart, after they won the SEC Championship.
00:42:02
Zack
decided to take some of his time with a microphone in front of the whole stadium and shoot a shot at Greg Sankey.
00:42:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who's standing right there?
00:42:11
Zack
ah Something along the lines of, thank you to Greg Sankey for having us out on the road all season. Here we are, we did it anyway, something like that, which is one of the most outrageous takes to make in front of the entire world.
00:42:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:42:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes, Georgia had a ah above average SEC.
00:42:32
Zack
It was a hard schedule. I mean, it was a tough schedule.
00:42:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, hard schedule. Did they play some away games? Yeah, but one of those is a neutral site game that you guys decided to play in Jacksonville.
00:42:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah That's your fault. If you really don't like it, then switch it and you guys can play home and away back, you know, rotate it
00:42:48
Zack
Yeah, Greg, thank you. Did not schedule that for you.
00:42:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, you guys, you and Florida are the ones who decided to do that 30 something years ago. That's not on Greg Sankey. Um, and then, Hey Zach, where is the SEC championship game played?
00:43:04
Zack
Yeah, that's the this is the craziest piece because they're they're they're sitting they're standing in Atlanta when he's saying this. And then they also...
00:43:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're going to be standing in Atlanta for the peach bowl that they're going to be in or the chick, whatever it's called.
00:43:16
Zack
That's what I'm saying. Like, what are we talking about, Kirby Smart?
00:43:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:43:21
Zack
Kirby Smart's become famous for this kind of... um He does this thing where he always acts like the world is against against them.
00:43:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Georgia.
00:43:30
Zack
That's like his shtick, you know?
00:43:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:43:32
Zack
Uh, he's like, he details, he's famously a couple of times told us players, um, something along the lines of, you know, they're all counting you out. Everyone is, uh, no one, treut no one believes in you. Uh, look at these sports riders who've, who've counted you out and stuff. And I'm like, no one, no one's ever doing that. You know, that's, he's fabricating this. He's creating his own bulletin board material.
00:43:59
Zack
Uh, which is a hundred percent accurate. And this is the same thing, like creating a victim mentality over not playing, like over playing away games. When you've got like four of them, essentially like four true away games. It's just a mind blowing when you're playing a home game for the SC championship and for one of your playoff games and not in the first round. It's just like, what are we talking about, Georgia? Cool.
00:44:28
Zack
you're in the playoffs, you just won. The fact that that was his first response after winning I see championship was just, that was pretty, that was like, what are you, what are we doing?
00:44:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What's the call on Greg Senke? It's it. It's just like when ah Travis Kelce called out, like, no one believed in us the last time they won the Superbowl.
00:44:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's like, you guys have been the favorites all year. Like, George has been the favorite to win the SEC all season.
00:44:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Like, what what are you crying about? just Just stop. Stop doing the fake, woe is us, the world's out against us. No one believes in us but us.
00:45:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's like, no, that's just not true, Kirby Smart.
00:45:05
Zack
It's truly not at all. Yeah, their four road they had four t true road games at Kentucky, which they won 13 to 12, if you remember.
00:45:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm.
00:45:16
Zack
At Alabama, which they lost. At Texas, which they won. And at Ole Miss, which they lost.
00:45:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, yes, that was his first thing was rest. He was like, yeah, it means we get some rest. My boys get some rest because we've been out on the road. Thanks to Greg Sanki and his staff.
00:45:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Like I watched the clip like four times earlier. I was like, what did he just say? And then the cameraman, the cameraman pans right to Greg Sanki who's standing there and he just kind of looking around like, why is he?
00:45:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What's he what's he coming for me for?
00:45:49
Zack
They haven't been on the road since November 9th. They had had three home games in a row before that.
00:45:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They need some rest. One of them was against UMass.
00:45:59
Zack
They played, yeah, they played Tennessee UMass and Georgia Tech, which went to eight overtimes. Because you couldn't be the Georgia Tech. I mean, I just whatever. Whatever Kirby Smart, whatever it needs you need to do to make a team want to play hard, I guess.
00:46:17
Zack
You congrats, you did it.
00:46:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
you Yeah, you did it.
00:46:19
Zack
You made it. um You got a nice draw for the for the playoff spots. You're playing Peach Bowl, which is great for you. Shout out. It's just very annoying.
00:46:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He is a very obnoxious guy.
00:46:37
Zack
It's kind of a guy that's like just the the players actually like him, I think.
00:46:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah The Jags.
00:46:44
Zack
I have no insight into this, but he seems like an unlackable character.
00:46:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
there's There's there's a guy. I don't know, there's a guy on the Jags, Tyson Campbell. He's a corner for Georgia and he talks about Kirby like like he's like his hero, so I don't know.
00:46:59
Zack
Interesting. It's always like Kirby Smart or like Bill Belichick, you know why people can just be like, he's no nonsense.
00:47:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Defensive players seem to like.
00:47:08
Zack
He's just like a ah guy who demands perfection. You can respect that, you know.
00:47:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:47:13
Zack
Or you can be like a player's coach and you can be like relatable and you can be like personable. There's like that as well. I'm not sure we're curvy smart wise on like the the spectrum of good coaches.
00:47:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:47:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Or you could be a coward and a bad coach and throw your quarterback under the bus a lot and ah have no accountability and promote your offensive coordinator.
00:47:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's a play caller for some reason, although he sucks at his job and gets yourself fired for a second time kind of coach. Those coaches exist.
00:47:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:47:50
Zack
Seems like you were talking from experience.
00:47:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. From a stupid visor wearing an idiot.
00:47:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i don't know how I don't know how Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl. I'll say it. Nick Foles had just some kind of magic. He must have found a genie in a bottle.
00:48:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because Doug Peterson having a Super Bowl ring does not make sense to me.
00:48:16
Zack
I feel like this is this take is probably just not gonna work, but i want you to I want you to prove me wrong.
00:48:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like it already though.
00:48:24
Zack
I feel like most Super Bowl quarterbacks are either like elite elite quarterback play or it's like a super mediocre quarterback and the rest of the team is just like electric.
00:48:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:48:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was just some kind of magical run.
00:48:41
Zack
Like Nick Foles feels like that.
00:48:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Joe Flacco.
00:48:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Eli Manning's two Super Bowls.
00:48:52
Zack
Manning, i was gonna I didn't know if that was going to be wrong. I was going to say Eli Manning.
00:48:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
00:48:56
Zack
Because now we see Tom Brady. you can And Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning, you can be like, those are elite quarterbacks, like led their team.
00:49:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:49:03
Zack
And sometimes just like, they had a good team. And the quarterback was just like, OK.
00:49:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep, Steve Spagnola won those two Super Bowls for the Giants.
00:49:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He is the best defensive coordinator. He's a big reason why the Chiefs are as dominant as they are. Like the Chiefs offense has not been great this year. Their their defense has been outstanding and that is Steve Spagnola is a mastermind.
00:49:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He might be, he will low key go down as maybe like the best defensive coordinator in NFL history in my opinion.
00:49:33
Zack
Wow, that's something.
00:49:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What he did to those, what he did to those two Patriots teams in Superbowl, what he's been doing with the Chiefs, like it's crazy.
00:49:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But you know, if you, it I bet you, if you go back and look at a lot of Superbowls, like not Tom Brady or passion or home Superbowl winners, like a lot of it's probably just a magical run.
00:49:55
Zack
It is, it which is very interesting. it's like
00:49:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That Superbowl could have been the Eagles versus the Jags. We were one Blake Bortles completion away from that happening.
00:50:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I have a very targeted algorithm. I don't i don't follow this page, but ah it's this guy who just does chopped up clips from the 2017 Jaguars team and to like sad music, like I miss you kind of music.
00:50:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It hits me in my feels because I miss that team.
00:50:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Didn't know didn't know what I had till it was gone.
00:50:32
Zack
I've been tasting it ever since.
00:50:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Miss Blake Bortles really have been um If we would have just won that Super Bowl then I wouldn't have had to deal with Nick Foles and Doug Peterson I've had to deal with both of them the Jaguars franchise has invested a lot of money in both of those people after they won the Super Bowl But they've been there
00:50:51
Zack
It's kind of like the Brock Purdy thing, too. I mean, that's like your probably your best example of a quarterback that just like gets the job done. I mean, they don't want a Super Bowl, obviously, but they're like they've been there. And it's not because of elite quarterback play, you know.
00:51:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're about that to pay him. I can only quarterback.
00:51:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Or. Or they won't. They'll fire Shanahan and then he'll be you know be able to go to a new team. Man, what I hate for Kyle Shanahan to have to move to North Florida.
00:51:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think that would be really bad for him.
00:51:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'd cut off a body part for Kyle Shanahan to be the Jaguars head coach.
00:51:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Any of the toes, whichever one you need.
00:51:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
to make it happen.
00:51:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Any of them. If it's the right, if or I'll do two, I could do two toes, but it's like the ring toe, like that one.
00:51:47
Zack
Yeah. Just one of the middle ones.
00:51:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Unnecessary. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Toe. You got to keep your pinky and your big toe. That's where all your balance comes from.
00:51:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just in case I ever want to play in middle aged men's basketball, YMCA league.
00:52:05
Zack
You're gonna need that.
00:52:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Gotta keep my doors open. Gonna need that. Gotta have the good balance.
00:52:08
Zack
Run away from the dog on the road.
00:52:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's true. Yeah. Shout out everyone that lives in Hartsfield, Tennessee. You guys love having your dogs outside. My gosh. I am running out of milk bones on a daily basis. There are lots of dogs at every house I pull up to.
00:52:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I have to ask myself the question. I'm like, is this a good dog or a bad dog? So if you have a bad dog, it gets, your package gets left at the end of your driveway.
00:52:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sorry.
00:52:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm not bite, I'm not getting bit.
00:52:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Some of these dogs, I can't outrun they're fast or
00:52:42
Zack
That's it. Imagine not having a couple of toes.
00:52:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
having an arm. Cause the dad, I'm German Shepherd by chair arm off.
00:52:55
Zack
OK, well, we can do some more playoff talk coming up um later this week. We've got a couple of weeks now to break down these matchups and. It's an exciting time, though, football.
00:53:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes, it's yeah, college football playoffs are starting for the first time, you know, we'll have some bowl games. I'll have some picks for those for sure. um NFL is heating up. We've got some ah the bills won their division for like the fifth year in a row today.
00:53:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's I think they locked it up because of other teams losing and sucking shout out jets and dolphins and Patriots you guys are all terrible um So yeah, it's the Chiefs end up winning tonight.
00:53:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They win the AFC West for like the ninth year in a row That is gross that's not even before patching with homes It's
00:53:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like two because he's like year seven I think Maybe I don't know
00:53:56
Zack
Hmm. I don't know the answer to that.
00:54:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know the answer to that either.
00:54:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason would find that answer very quick. Shout out Mason. He is not here tonight or else we would have some fact checks going on.
00:54:08
Zack
Yeah, for sure. We have no fact checks tonight. We're just saying whatever we feel is right.
00:54:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No community notes. Yeah. Don't community notice.
00:54:17
Zack
So don't text us. Well, we will be back on Thursday to talk some more playoffs to focus on NFL talk to catch up on as well.
00:54:30
Zack
ah We'll have it all. We'll be here. ah We are excited that see this these playoffs in action and We will be here for all the action. Check out the discord tens is cooking on there all the time giving out bets.
00:54:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:54:43
Zack
He's getting rich You'll be a fool to not follow him.
00:54:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're having a good basketball season already, and we haven't even got the conference play yet. and That's where all the money's at. So get in while you can before I start charging for this sucker.
00:54:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If I win about 50 more games in a row, we're charging $1 a month.
00:55:05
Zack
Yep. You gotta to pay for that kind of content. Go get away for free. Catch it while it's hot.
00:55:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, feel good, feel great.
00:55:18
Zack
All right. We'll see you back here on Thursday.
00:55:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
good