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Unnecessary Roughness: NFL Week 18

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NFL Week 18 & Playoff Predictions

00:01:12
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What is going on everyone? Happy Sunday. what unnecessary rutness It's been a little bit of a minute and the holidays kind of and kicked our butts around here. Everybody traveling and doing the family thing. We took a couple of weeks off or a week off or something, man. I don't even know. I can't trying to get back into the normal sea of things.
00:01:39
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But we're back for a little week 18. NFL. We got our picks. We got our predictions. We've got some talking to do playoffs are right around the corner. And if you're not already, go ahead and follow the network, but I'll dot link slash nonsensical network. You're going to get all the links to all the socials and polluting I'll link to beauty and the beard creative corner where you can get all kinds of goodies. Mickey can make you shirts and hoodies and cups and all kinds of fun stuff. So, and we, if you want to get like some unnecessary gear or nonsense or nonsense, you can do that. She can also do whatever you want. Give us a follow. Give us a like, give us a share. If you'd be so kind, we'd really appreciate that. Um, lots of talk about, I say, because we're getting a little bit of a late start.
00:02:38
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i' to come to

Podcast Delays & Technical Banter

00:02:40
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yeah Some jackasses decided to stay up a little bit too late podcasting last night and may or may not have accidentally drank a little bit.
00:02:50
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this is but So we were, we were so listen, we would not have stayed up too late last night if somebody hadn't ended the fucking show at nine 30 and we had the opportunity to restart it for six more goddamn hours. This is true. This is the fact that that things on a timer tremendously helps us. Yes. This is true. I didn't even plan on doing another full six hours, but sometimes we're playing on it, but it always goes that way. Yeah. You just lose track when you're having fun. You're having a good time. But anyways, um, what?
00:03:24
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My kids were not waking up early today. I know you're judging. Oh, it's all fun and games and dad drinks and does a podcast so you can stay up late and play video games, but the next day rolls around. They had, they went, I went down by white room at 11 o'clock and he was sitting on his bed. I barely something to crack in his door. He's like, walked down to Peyton's room, grabbed her leg, woke her up as I'm coming out of her room. He's stumbling into the bathroom with a sweatshirt and jeans. He goes, I'm going to take a shower. All right, dude, opening up and you good. Yeah. Nice. ah Anyways. Um, you guys know who we are. I'm click. He's raking. We got.

NFL Picks & Week 16-17 Recap

00:04:06
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there What's going on down there in your world? chi um I'm messing around man. I'm experimenting with some things. He's down there being all it guy all of a sudden. Yeah, right. Mike stands up some microphone. I'm just setting. Yeah, I'm setting some things up. I'm going to try something. I was going out and winning teams fan. Yep. Remember you for last night, buddy. Yeah, I remember Brandon.
00:04:36
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Uh, yeah, we got a little bit of a late start and I know we got a lot of football and different things that we want to talk about, but I figured, why don't we, uh, jump right into the picture here real quick and actually a real quick little review, uh, weeks. This is you know week Um, on our picks, uh, Oh, man, there was a lot going on in week 16. I didn't even mark everything down. the fuck sake I know. Right. Um,
00:05:05
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Well, the chiefs beat the Steelers on Christmas. So they'll never have accurate numbers. like down Yeah, we got it. I got it. Stevens Ravens beat Houston on Christmas. Correct. and Yeah. ah In epic fashion. Uh, did the sea chickens win them that Thursday night?
00:05:31
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Do you need me to pull it up? I'm looking for it. They were playing the Bears. Oh, yeah, that was a disgusting six to three games. Yeah, that was a trash game. and That was as bad as the Baltimore Houston game. It was like thirty one to five or some stupid shit. Thirty one to two. Oh, they only got the safety. I thought they could. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's chargers. Smoke the Patriots. But, uh, those
00:06:03
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Broncos lost to the Bengals. And I believe the Rams. Yeah, the Rams beat the Cardinals. OK, got accurate numbers here. All right, so. and d five That's. I think Houston was probably the biggest disappointment of the entire season in the chair. Dude, you want to yes. for Do what?
00:06:28
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ah the typically
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be
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ah Oh, I remember what I wanted to argue about. ah So, eat week sixteen, you were eleven and six.

Week 18 Game Predictions

00:06:50
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You were oh and one on your lone wolf picks. I was thirteen and four, two and one on my lone wolf picks and Derek just because I didn't get Saturday picks from Derek. Derek was eleven and four but I think it's pretty safe to say that derek probably would have made the same things we all did. And then last week, Ricky and I were the only one that got picks in last week. You guys all suck. The rest of you suck. We were ah we were both seven and three. We were both out of town and got our picks in. What the fuck? Everybody else on this podcast sucks. Yeah, probably because they're Tennessee fans.
00:07:30
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00:07:34
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So, yeah, we were seven and three last week, which is funny because we both picked the Titans over the Jags. Oh, yeah. And then I went Saints and you went Raiders, but we both picked the Colts when they, they were off. I the Eagles and you pick the Cowboys and then I had the dolphins over the Browns. You, you picked the Browns, man. I'm a Browns fan and I knew better. like I have no, I have no,
00:08:01
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I have no trust or loyalty or allegiance or whatever you want to call it this this this far into the season.
00:08:11
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Them sons of bitches man alive. We did have two games last night. We did have the AFC North was playing last night. Uh, the Browns were thoroughly embarrassed by the Ravens so much so to the point that at the end of the game, our season ended on a 365 pound defensive lineman who dropped back in coverage andcepted bailey za and because I know DTR came in and instead I don't work i actually vtr came in on like the third drive after that be second interception.
00:08:45
Speaker
Oh, that was Zappy. Yeah, and Zappy came back in because he was out there. He put a couple of good drives that amounted into one was a field goal and one was a touchdown. So how about that big ass fucking lineman knew better than to try to go down the field and chance pummeling and just drop Dwindy.
00:09:04
Speaker
He was like, he didn't drop to a knee. He he didn't drop to a knee. I think the fact was he realized he's way too fat to run 90 yards down the field. He was like, I'm not making this fucking run. So I'm just going to kind of follow him.
00:09:17
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Yeah, he just kind of just kind of tumbled down to the ground like a big sack of potatoes and what turned out to be a pretty good game, but the Steelers did not do anything to help themselves. They they lost to the fun holes. 19 to 17 last night. um Again, they didn't do anything to help themselves going into the playoffs. I think the one of the Steelers on what a three game skid four game skid.
00:09:47
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I don't know. Something like that. Four games. I'll tell you. I was going to say, yeah, I'll tell you here in a second. How do you do? They lost a lot of sport. Yeah. There we go. We can hear you. Oh, you can hear me? Yup. Now we can. How long? I'm going to try one more thing and see if you can hear me when I do this.
00:10:10
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He's like, shit, you're not supposed to hear me. but can I mean, they did have a tough schedule going down, the down, down to the, the last, I mean, they played Philly, Baltimore, Kansas, back to back to back and eight L's. Yo. Hello. Okay.
00:10:32
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the the oh i want to guy and i got this run i'm not like
00:11:05
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like twenty five i just changed it up This is running through a damn $2,500 audio interface that What I mean, yeah, that's why I wanted to plug it up and kind of see how it worked That sounds great man. Yeah, your mic sounds awesome. I Know I gotta get my mic. Oh ah hook back up and everything. I like the mic on this and on this camera that I have, but I have got a decent mic. Yeah, man. um You know know, man does holler at me. I could tell you like a couple of things that aren't super expensive where you could like have a mic that's like crispy. Oh, yeah. Well, I got to start with getting new laptop. I got to start with getting a new laptop because this laptop that I have is honestly about on its last leg. I took one.
00:11:58
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don't one to know my damn dates it may look like a drug addict addict and shit oh fucking i proan but but but right ah go what a why Anyways, we're all into these picks here real quick and then we'll do ah some little sidebar discussions because I know we got a lot to talk about. I know Rick and I started talking about it last night.
00:12:20
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uh if I can get back into it here we go uh let's go ahead and start off with the one o'clock games as per usual uh the carolina panthers versus the falcons of atlanta he will i'm gonna which it's a must win for atlanta too yeah let's address that uh it is a must win for atlanta uh the playoff picture for atlanta the Falcons basically their hopes come down to a must win game and a Bucks loss today. But I will say ever since they brought Bryce back off the bench, he's been playing a lot better and the Panthers themselves have been playing a lot better. They still suck, but they're playing a lot better. theyve
00:13:07
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its ah Panthers are three plays away from winning games, literally three plays or a call. Yeah. Like they should have been Kansas city, but that no PI call in the end zone or whatever it was, it's there. They're literally three plays away and, and a call my god and they would be a, they would be a 500 team. Oh yeah.
00:13:37
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it's though, which gives, gives, gives, gives good hope for next season for the Panthers if they can build off of this. Um, but in the meantime, they're still a dumpster fire. I said it at the beginning of the season, the Carolina Panthers are a dumpster fire. I'm going to say it at the end of the season, there's still a dumpster fire that cannot be put out and I'm going with the.
00:13:58
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about cans. I'm going to go with the the other way. Also, I've been informed by my legal department, a.k.a. Rick, that I have to watch what I say when when I call him the falcon. Yeah. Hello. Check, check. No, no, I'm just. He said, yo, hello. Hi, there. You're clear.
00:14:24
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Hello. hello and Did Derek get swapped out with Blaze? Where am I? blue I forgot that I was here. Y'all still hear me loud enough? Yeah, absolutely. OK, cool. Yeah, Benj, I think next year will be different for the Panthers. If they can build off of what they're doing this season, I think next year will be a little bit bigger. I don't think they should move on from Bryce Young. I think Bryce Young has potential for them as a quarterback.
00:14:58
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I, I, I, you know, I wasn't really sold on Bryce young,

Browns' Season Reflection & Ravens Matchup

00:15:01
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but I got it. True. Uh, but I gotta give him credit. Like I said, they benched you earlier this season. They brought him off the bench and he's looked a hundred times better. Maybe that slap in the face that he needed to kind of wake up and get a shift. And he got the chance to play behind Andy Dalton, which if you're going to learn from a quarterback, Andy Dalton is a pretty good quarterback to learn. Yeah. And he's been, he's been around for the last 75 years in the league. Yeah. He was in super. Yeah. I always forget Andy Dalton and Carson Wentz are still in the league. And then all of a sudden they start, somebody gets placed for somebody to get put in there. Like, what? Where did these guys come from? Um, he, he got in that Panthers Falcon game, Derek. Oh, Falcons all day.
00:15:57
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but Okay. we can't write out ah ah Coming up are also right at one o'clock. These are all the one o'clock games here. We got the Washington football commander Redskins versus the Dallas Cowboys. ah The Cowboys are actually starting Trey Lance tonight. We have the rookie of the year playing against the Dallas Cowboys.
00:16:22
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Man, I want to talk about that when we get done with our picks because you you and I started out the season on the same page, but we're ending the season on different pages on that on that conversation. But let's let's circle back around to that.
00:16:35
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note note yes but did what the Jaden, obviously the commanders are locked into the playoffs. The Cowboys have no chance in hell in making the playoffs.
00:16:47
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ah yeah Oh shucks. The Cowboys aren't going to be in the playoffs. I'm so hurt. This puts truth to all the memes that share at the beginning after the first week, the Cowboys have been eliminated from the playoffs.
00:17:01
Speaker
Well, not only that, and you know, we get to look forward to after the, after today's game for the next year. Another year of everybody talking about how deck 2025. Yeah. 2025 NFL Super Bowl champions Dallas cowboy. Yeah. Dak Prescott's the answer. It's our year. but I'm going to even, I think the commanders are resting some people. Cause like I said, they're locked in, but even with that being the case,
00:17:29
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Uh, I'm, I'm taking the commanders over the Cowboys. Yeah. I'm taking the commanders over the Cowboys. Yeah. Uh, everybody's taking commanders. I'm not everybody, but most people those nos handss in Washington, they think Trey Lance is going to come in and throw five studies.
00:17:52
Speaker
if if ah if If Brian was here, he would pick the Cowboys. He would also pick the Panthers. Oh, and where hold on a second. When was the last time Brian made picks? I got to give you those numbers. Two weeks ago. Yeah, one. He's always fucking wild with his picks too, man. Yeah, one, two, three.
00:18:19
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on Four.
00:18:26
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five six They had six losses And one had six, right No, he was he was would have been he was right up there with you with the six losses ah Real quick correction in the week 16 14 and 4 for me 12 and 4 for Derek and 12 and six for you, Rick. Because I didn't mark the Packers game. I just seen it when I was looking at Brian's boneheaded

Colts vs. Jaguars & Playoff Hopes

00:19:09
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decisions as to it says. Yeah, that's right. All right. Where are we at, Packers? Today. You're welcome. Yeah, Will Levers, speaking of bonehead moves, Will Levers today, man, might be his last start in the NFL.
00:19:25
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I wouldn't go that far. Dallas will pick them up and pay $45 million a year.
00:19:33
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pudding $45 million a year to sit behind Dak Prescott for two. I think I'd be paying Cooper Rush that and ah maybe.
00:19:45
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And then after deck, after deck retires, it'll all of a sudden be, well, this is our Superbowl champion. go ah He's the answer. wouldn't Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants as a Titans fan? If like next year say he does go to Dallas and you know, ah for whatever reason, that gets hurt like he always does. And will comes in and fucking leads them to the damn Superbowl and wins the Superbowl. It's like man up fan watching Baker Mayfield be one of the right quarterbacks to the right little punch in the penis.
00:20:19
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We got the Packers and the Bears. Packers are locked into the playoffs. I think they're going to be resting people too. And the Bears are just, man, I don't want to say they're atrocious, but they're atrocious.
00:20:34
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hey yeah a beginning of the year, quote, we're not going to punt that much as well. go say But I mean, they're not that, they're not that bad though, to be honest, like overall, if you really think about it, they, I mean, they're they're not a good team right now, but they got some stuff going on. And Caleb Williams is definitely better than I thought he was for after, you know, games.
00:21:00
Speaker
they They compete in every game. Like there there hasn't, I mean, Carolina smoked them and Jacksonville smoked them. That kind of hurts, but every other game they were in and they were competitive and they, and they, they held one of the top 10 defenses in the league, like all season. Yeah. So you can say defense wins champions championships as long as your offense points on them. That's right. That's right. Yeah, this is true. But, um, I mean, again, much like the Panthers, I think the bears and bears fans,
00:21:31
Speaker
if they can continue to build and, you know, Caleb Williams, rookie, maybe next year will be a little bit better. But we're talking about this year. We're talking about the Packers versus the Bears. Who you got there? Packers. I say all that man, defending the Bears. What you thinking? I'm going Packers. Oh man.
00:22:01
Speaker
Uh, a part, a part of me wants to say, um, the bears, just because I know the Packers are arresting people, but I don't know how many people the Packers are going to arrest because that division is wild this year. but That division still isn't clinched. No, we're going to get to that when I get to that. You have to two out fourteen and two teams that haven't clinched the division yet. What the fuck?
00:22:24
Speaker
yeah that's a wild uh a little scenario in that game uh we've got the Tennessee or Tennessee so the Tennessee Texans is what I almost said the Titans versus a disappointing Houston Texans I don't care if they've clinched the playoffs if they won their division that is a disappointment of a season for them. After everything they had all the weapons, they were probably the most disappointing team in the NFL this year. They had, and put to their defense, they got riddled with injuries mid season.
00:23:02
Speaker
Yeah, um they lost Nico Collins for a couple of weeks. They lost Tank Del for a couple of weeks. They lost updates for the season. Then Tank Del came back and then he went out with that fucked up knee in the two weeks ago. Like they just couldn't catch a break on the injury side of the ball or on the injury side on the offensive side of the ball. And it just led to them having a very disappointing season from what I thought.
00:23:30
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and C.J. Stroud like fell the fuck off after we like he came out rowing darts and he looked real good. And then not so much.
00:23:43
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not so much
00:23:47
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And who did they? appreciate today They're playing the Titans today. I know mixing is is resting. CJ Stroud is resting and a whole buttload of other players for Houston is resting. They clinched the AFC South. um They've got their their their playoff locked in.
00:24:08
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I'm actually going to, I'm actually, you know what? I'm back on the Titans train and I'm going to go to Titans this week. I'm going to go to Titans this week. Part of me like, you know, you're like, oh, they cleansed it, you know, the Texans and all this. And so I'm like,
00:24:24
Speaker
We could win, but I know we'll find a way to lose the game. Go to Texas. That was going to be my statement. They'll find a way to fuck it up. Part of me right there was going, all right, I'm going to go Titans. All right, there. Titan up. It's the last game of the season. Titan up, Dave. My Titan up is that the Texans win so that we get that number one or we stay at number two or maybe even move up to number one at some point for the draft. Lee one's moving up.
00:24:50
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we

Eagles vs. Giants & Strategic Implications

00:24:51
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we We'll see. I'm going to go. I think is is who's the backup for Houston? You know, I have no idea. That's a good question. Let's find out real quick. I'll go back a pride to ah Davis Mills. Oh,
00:25:13
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but
00:25:16
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gonna pick the tight Derek got a lone wolf on the Texans. um the iron m lone wolf yeah is
00:25:31
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right so you're a titans fan and you loan up against the text yep either right I thought for sure I was going to loan with the Titans here. I really did. That's a that's a true fan when you know your team well enough to pick against them and you're the only one who does it.
00:25:51
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I mean, I've been picking against the Browns. I mean, Derek and I have both been in the same boat all season, just kind of yeah it's It's tough. I was watching last night or yesterday and I was like, who is quarterbacking for the Browns?
00:26:08
Speaker
It's just some random drunk guy they pulled out of the stands. Yeah, I was like, what is going on? What did happen? Did James Winston go down? I wasn't paying attention. We had Bailey Zappi in there. I didn't even know. I thought he got kicked to Canada after his disappointment in New England. New England, yeah. But what happened to James? James, did he get hurt? I think he got hurt.
00:26:36
Speaker
And then we had DTR in and DTR man with the expectations that he had coming in. I was excited when they drafted him, but that kid is a fucking mess. So they benched him. And then they put yeah last year, we had five starting quarterbacks. We had 30 quarterbacks. And we broke and we and we broke another record. I think Zappy was our ninth starting quarterback.
00:27:06
Speaker
since the Browns came back and 99 previous record was held by the Browns at 39. Now the new record, for our own record and most starting quarterbacks and in franchise history. Well, let's see. They don't have any more games, right? They're done done. dalia Yeah. wikipedia jesus I was going to say they can always pick up one more quarterback to start one last game, but Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is over, man. they They didn't even get to sniff the playoffs this year. They didn't even sniff the 500 record, bro. the season the season was yeah The season was over week one when we lost to the damn Giants and made the Giants look like a Super Bowl caliber team. I knew our season was going to be rough. However, we did have three wins. As of right now, I think we set with the number two overall pick.
00:27:59
Speaker
But I told him I told Nikki, I said, you know what? We beat the Ravens and we beat the Steelers this year. I'll take it. And this is the first year that that Joe Burrow and his career has beaten the Browns. He went. This is the first time in his career that he's won against the Browns and he went to an O this year. They brought the duck Tampa Bay, by the way. I'm bringing it on the sidelines. Oh, good lord. ah We have another disappointing two teams, the Colts and the Jaguars. I just come up here and this is probably Doug Peterson's last game as head coach of the Jax. Oh, wow. How about Trevor and Trevor Lawrence? Why is he still why should be only last game is the quarterback for the Jax. Yeah. Why is he still around? Why is he still a big? Um, thanks a lot to be a quarterback to make a Super Bowl winning head coach look that fucking bad. Well,
00:29:01
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Ah little skill people have yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the Colts in this one Mainly just reasons out I believe yeah, I don't matter does that mean flackers plan I Don't know who they're going to start um im gonna Go go but go Uh, yeah, Richardson is out. He, he heard his, his, his, uh, back. So well, lacko is starting today. Yeah, man. And Flacco, we trust I'm going Colts. What you thinking over there? there oh I'm going Colts. What are the Titans? They don't play until three, I mean, four today. Uh, the Titans play at one, huh?
00:29:56
Speaker
because I don't see it on anywhere on CBS. Yeah, my son Panthers and Falcons. Yeah, mine too. Because it's playoff convention for the Falcons is probably why. I think it's going to be another easy pick. ah Should be across the board, the bills and the Patriots, the Pat riots. We're all starters. You're playing one drive. All the starters are playing one drive. You guys are locked in. You won the division and clench the division five weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. well Again, much better, not much. Well, I'm just saying it was a record for the first team. Like it's never been clinched that far out.
00:30:44
Speaker
I don't know if that if that speaks volumes for you guys being that good or the AFC East being that bad. Both. I think it's both because I mean, we have a bad down to our opponents and that's why like we were able to sling 40 with the Rams and 40 with Detroit. But then we almost lost the fucking New England and it was like, what the fuck? Well, you do that.
00:31:11
Speaker
But. but Yeah, I'm going bills on that one for sure. One bills as well. What's your thing? Oh, who do oh who we talk about bills bills bills pictures?
00:31:29
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ah Damn, I'm gonna go out on limb here and I'm gonna go Patriots. ah keep in mind the Patriots are fighting for the number one draft back.
00:31:41
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ah yeah you just not play hard I could use a Patriots win today because that's going to move right up in there. It's going to be hard. We'll see. Buffalo definitely a benching a bunch of people today. So all their starters after the first. Uh,
00:32:04
Speaker
Derek's with Derek's got a second loan with any one of those, like how like sounders that we can click for a loan. I need to get some sound effects going on. All right. I don't have, I mean, I can get one. ah wouldnt hell Okay. Yeah. They've got everything freaking jumbled up here.
00:32:30
Speaker
I'm going through this if I could pull up my studio one and I could just play stuff through and it'll just You know what I mean?
00:32:41
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leg like ah The last onboard app up on my phone ah last one and stuff Hell yeah, the last one o'clock game we got the And the Eagles and the Giants and I imagine the Eagles are resting a lot of people and For some reason the Giants came alive last last week and put up 45 on Indy Which is which is great see Well, they're they're definitely sake ones not breaking the record stand Because he's sitting in a

Chiefs vs. Broncos Analysis

00:33:21
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Yes
00:33:23
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yes I'm still going to Eagles in this one over the Giants to in there to just put the Giants out of their misery this season. like king Yeah, I'm going to the Eagles on this one. Where? Where you going, Derek? Who's my head? Who we got? Eagles, Eagles, and Giants. Let me turn that off. Eagles and Giants.
00:34:12
Speaker
Third, I think he might break my record for crazy as a little more fix. am And I'm sorry. And the last, the last one o'clock game, this has got to play off of implications here. Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Bucks can clinch a playoff berth and the NFC crown, NFC South crown with a win slash tie today. Uh, you know where my allegiance lies. I've been riding with them all day, all, all season long.
00:34:38
Speaker
never make moneys and them back in here got it
00:34:43
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bucks for Derek. What you thinking? Did you say bucks as well? or Yeah, I'm going buck. Yes. As much as it pains me to actually, you know what? It doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt to yeah black out of Pierce. It doesn't hurt to see Baker succeeding as you know, I wish he was still in a Brown's Jersey uniform.
00:35:06
Speaker
but I'm happy for the kid. I've been a fan since he was in college and I'll be a fan no matter where he's at. So I'm excited to see him in Tampa doing their damn thing. Hopefully Mike Evans gets his, and his incentive money today. He needs five catches, 85 yards. I think Baker will get him that in the first quarter. michael parel yeah you be for watching I'll say, I'll say by halftime, and they it's three receptions in the first quarter.
00:35:35
Speaker
Wouldn't that be wild if like the first play of the game is a Baker Mayfield the to Evans connection for like a 90 yard touchdown or something like that? Then all they need is right. Yeah, so that they just do like these easy short routes for him to get one open and just get the screen passes over the top facts. Yeah, that would be that would be awesome. Roll it into the 425, 430 games today.
00:36:03
Speaker
um Chiefs Broncos. And again, this playoff picture for the Broncos, it's simple when and you're in. Yup. And I'm going, I'm going Broncos in this one mainly because I think the Chiefs are. I know the Chiefs are definitely sitting. Yeah. Like everybody's just, I don't even think some guys showed up to the game today. That's, that's like, you know, but I'm going Broncos on this one. Yeah. Broncos for sure.
00:36:32
Speaker
They just have to play for like you said in Kansas ain't really. I mean, they're going to try to win, but they're not. That's your other potential. Ricky of the year right there. Bo next. Right. Oh, next. And Jaden Daniels are your potentials. That's who's fighting for it right now. Yeah. Um, we got the chargers and Raiders, uh, chargers are locked in. I believe they got the playoff spot. Uh, yes, they, they won. the They are AFC wildcard.
00:37:02
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They will be in the number six. They are in the number five spot. There's a five seat Pittsburgh's number six and Denver so pittsburgh is number five. Yeah. Well, that lost last night.
00:37:21
Speaker
pumpmped them but I mean that if if the Chargers lose today, I mean you can either way the Chargers are locked in Pittsburgh's locked in and Denver is You know ah must been theres win yes or no they lost no they lost um they lost in classic fashion i josh and a I started one fucking play and he's off the field Dion Dawkins is wearing a ball cap She's just like Buffalo is Josh had to keep his that makes 110 starts in consecutively for Josh. Yeah. Nice. I'm going. I'm going with I'm going with chargers in this one. Yeah. I got Mitch. It's with you. They're going oilers jerseys on today. Nice. Yeah. Who who you got, Rick? I'm going to go chargers.
00:38:14
Speaker
I don't think the charges are sitting anybody here, so I don't care. Even if they did, the Raiders are that and bad. I'm looking. I'm looking forward to seeing the Harbaugh versus Harbaugh in the playoffs, and I hope. I hope John's bitch slash Jim Harbaugh in the Ravens.
00:38:32
Speaker
I, I, I don't, I'm not a Ravens fan, but I'm pulling for the Ravens all the way just for Derek Henry. I wish he'd gone to both. Yeah. i but That would change my whole argument here in a little bit when we're done with our picks. I love the fact that, uh, of all the teams in the NFL, the Cleveland Browns are somehow Henry's kryptonite.
00:39:01
Speaker
He cannot rush against the Cleveland Browns. They freaking dominate him, that defense. if you watched that game or not, but Cleveland just was there. Like they they weren't, they weren't there to do anything other than just get paychecks last night.
00:39:24
Speaker
I mean, even, even miles Garrett, who he did get, he did get to Lamar, I think once or twice. And even after that, he was just like, there were several plays where he was just standing on the line. Like he was in coverage. I mean, you ain't got nothing to pay for. I mean, what's the point? You know

Chargers, Raiders, Rams & Seahawks Predictions

00:39:41
Speaker
what I mean? Like just stay warmed up, go out there, play around. and I mean, you're basically just exercising. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Um, we got the Rams who have,
00:39:53
Speaker
clinched their division and locked in versus the Rams got hot at the right fucking time. They got help, but I told you, in time I told you when they got healthy because Stafford was hurt. Cup was hurt. Uh, yep. The cool was hurt. They got healthy. The right time. Yeah.
00:40:17
Speaker
I said, as soon as they get healthy, that's going to be a fucking team to be reckoned with. And they have been ever since everybody got healthy, um, sea chickens. I think this, yeah, they're, they are out of it. Yes. They have no playoff hopes. Uh, so we got, uh, Rams and sea chickens. I don't know if the Rams are sitting anybody. Um, ah Sean McVeigh, according to our chat box,
00:40:48
Speaker
What? Yeah, it says McVay's benching people. No, it says Rams head coach is out. Oh, he's out. I wonder. Yeah. He might be sick. or He might have something with the family, but I'm still going to go Rams. I'm going to go Rams in this one. I really see Hawks. Yeah. Yeah. Me too.
00:41:11
Speaker
Dang, that's crazy because I'm going to Seahawks. He did it again. He did it again.
00:41:22
Speaker
number four. I'm going to have to go back and look and see. I think that might be a new lone wolf record. Yeah. I might have to go back here. i think like ah You had a week, man. and And so did Brian one week. we offer every week four but Every week, Brian is like, uh, I'm going to go with the team that everybody else is not picking.
00:41:43
Speaker
Dolphins and Jets. Miami needs a victory and a Broncos loss to clinch a playoff picture. I don't think that's going to happen for him, by the way. oh Yeah, that's tough. I just don't see the Broncos losing today because they're winning. You're in jail. Right. I'm still going with the Fins. Fins up, baby. 2-0 for six tuddies against the Jets. I'm going with the Dolphins, but I don't know about six tuddies. I feel like 2-0 with a hip injury.
00:42:11
Speaker
And two is going to get 2.5 concussions in this game as well. Yeah, yeah, He'll be out for the rest of the season after this game. Let's see. Tua is out. He'll be out. Yeah. Is he out? Tyreek Hill. Yep. Oh, shit. I know. Yeah, yeah. He's out with a hip. Tyreek Hill is out. Vandenberg. They've got a Willy Snead is out.
00:42:41
Speaker
Holy shit. They got a Kalais Campbell is out. Oh, he's resting. Uh, not injury related. Um, Jalen waddle is out. Holy crap. I think I'm going to go with the jets on this one. Wow. Yeah. But in the same breath, I think it's going to be, uh, Aaron Rogers last game as a jet ah last game forever. I think so.
00:43:08
Speaker
Yeah. No, he's going to he's going to follow in Brett Farr's footsteps. He'll be he's got to go to Minnesota next. They don't go to Minnesota. They won't. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right
00:43:25
Speaker
yeah they all never it are and then
00:43:32
Speaker
we've got the forty nine wraps dead
00:43:39
Speaker
He goes, we got the 49ers from the Cardinals. And shockingly, the 49ers are completely out of it. They were. 49ers have been out for like three weeks. They were. And a lot of injuries this season. A lot of injuries this season. But they were. They were asked this year. They were not good. Yeah.
00:44:04
Speaker
ah Not much like in fantasy football, that CMC lost hurt everybody, but dude, look, I'd be going into today's game. I'm going Cardinals based off of this. George Kittle out, Deebo Samuel out, injury, Brock Purdy, injury. ah I mean, that's your, that's your entire offer. He has an elbow confusion. Yeah, he's out. ah That's your, that's your, that's your entire, that's your entire offense, man.
00:44:35
Speaker
CMC is already out and. um
00:44:40
Speaker
Uh, who's the other wide receiver that was out for the season a few weeks back? he been i but Yeah, yeah. run Yeah, Brandon, I, I mean, you got Josh, you got Josh stops starting running back. Number one is astronauts. Yeah. Coronado. And then you got wide receivers.
00:45:04
Speaker
Juan Jennings, Chris Conley. Yeah, man. I'm going Cardinals in that one. but the yeah the Niners are just but yeah i'm going cars as well. That's just disgusting. yeah And shout out to Kyler Murray. he's He's not a good NFL quarterback, but he's had a pretty good season. And James Connor is just an absolute menace to society. Let's address the fact real quick that the 49ers are currently 14 million over the salary cap at the end of the year.
00:45:33
Speaker
You are a menace. Just so we're clear. That's that's a big thing for them. You're just mad because y'all let him go and fucking have Najib. I'm an idiot, Harris.

Dolphins, Jets, 49ers & Cardinals Discussion

00:45:51
Speaker
True story. Najib, I'm going to run 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage and do a bunch of stupid dancing around and not pick up any yards.
00:46:02
Speaker
In the last game we have tonight because I don't believe we get no Monday night football. No No, nothing. No Thursday night this week. No, uh, this is this is cool This this matchup and I'm happy for both of these fucking tunes Sam motherfucking darnell, this is the game of the day right here.
00:46:24
Speaker
yeah this's going to like Yeah 14 and 2 both of them division Yeah. And the same division and Jared golf and the 14 to two lions with Dan, with what with Dan Campbell and his giant balls and bite your fucking knees off. yeah I'm telling you, those are two teams. I am so excited to watch play tonight. They are two very deserving franchises to have the records that they have. Um,
00:46:56
Speaker
I don't even know who to pick in this game. So obviously they're both locked in for the playoffs. This is for the NFC North. ah But here's the kicker about this game. One of these teams at 14 and two. Could wind up on the road in a wild card game. What? As of right now, the Minnesota.
00:47:25
Speaker
As of right now, the Minnesota Vikings are the first wild card team in that wild. They were and in tune. You got to play a wild card game. while Meanwhile, the Falcon on the road, they get in to play a wild card game and like nine and eight. Yeah, on the road. Fourteen and two. Yeah, you're looking at you're looking at the Rams at 10 and six Tampa Bay at nine and seven and Philly at 13 and three.
00:47:50
Speaker
um These are these these are the teams that ah as of right now, as of right now in the standings, your NFC leaders that get the by Detroit Philly or that have the first round or whatever Detroit, Philly, L.A. and Tampa Bay. Your three wild cards are Green Bay, Washington and Minnesota. Again, shout out to the NFC in that division, man. Philly or Minnesota, Detroit and Green Bay are all in the playoffs this year.
00:48:21
Speaker
yeah But yeah, that is wild to me that you could potentially be 14 and three. ah and And still have to play in a wild card round. Play in a wild card and go on the road. Yeah, crazy. This is going to be an awesome game. Both teams have been phenomenal this year.
00:48:44
Speaker
You know, we've talked, Rick, you and I've talked a lot about the, and this is even before this year, that's that, that trade between the Rams and Detroit with golf and Stafford. And, and, you know, I was always a Stafford fan and I just felt like Detroit was never his place. And golf was another one of those guys under Matt Patricia. So it doesn't surprise me. that Yeah. and And golf was another one of those guys. And and with the Rams, it was just like,
00:49:09
Speaker
He's not. He's not bad. He just doesn't fit. And then they do that swap. And ever since that swap, both the team have been amazing since that staff wins the Super Bowl. And I think this might be I think this might shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. I think this might be. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Rick. I'm sorry, Rick. But I think this might be a good choice here. You have the Super Bowl we're going to get, which is probably the Chiefs and the Eagles and the Super Bowl that America deserves, which is Detroit and Buffalo.
00:49:38
Speaker
because no two cities in the playoffs this year deserve it more than Detroit and Buffalo. Yeah. If the Chiefs go again this year, I might just quit watching the NFL football. You think it'll be rigged? It's gotta be. I mean, dude, they are not that good. And look at how they won the Super Bowl and then look at their weak ass schedule. What do you say? What do you say about the Chiefs? When does that happen? They are a three win team.
00:50:08
Speaker
If you take out the officials there, if you take out the referees, they are a three. I agree with you, Derek. I'll show you why it's rigged. It's rigged because Patrick Mahomes didn't make the pro bowl. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like how they went in all these games, he's supposed to be the guy. The rest are protecting my year. You know, he's going to the super bowl. So he's not going to play the pro bowl game anyway. So why even put him in the pro bowl?
00:50:37
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. I don't know. That's just why I'm looking at it. I'm like, I don't like it. ah yeah I don't like it. I I've, I've said it for years. I know the commentators and the announcers and the, the anal list and everybody like that. They, they, they arrived at Dick Apache from the homes. I think he's a mediocre quarterback. I think he's a mediocre quarterback at best. I don't think he's as good as everybody hypes him up to be. The chiefs are freaking dumpster fire football team.
00:51:05
Speaker
And they need the fucking refs to bail them out. I mean, did you see Swift or Travis Swift? yeah He got fined last week for a slam dunk celebration and they fucking grilled him online with don't worry. Ask your girlfriend to pay your fine. She's got money. He i like it's it's hard to hate on that guy because he is a very, very talented, tight end.
00:51:36
Speaker
He is. why how How would you do somewhere else where you weren't handled with kid gloves and pottled and all that stuff? Like go play on another team, you know, go back home to Cleveland and play Cleveland one or two seasons. Well, you probably wouldn't get a start because in joke who's there and as long as in joke who's there, nobody's going to be a starting tight end over him. So because that guy's an absolute monster. But. um Yeah, and Kelsey's not who he used to be the last two seasons. No, he used to be like a monster. He he was an absolute. master and Now he's just. Yeah, this season and last season, I mean, he was mediocre. I mean, you have the hamburglar coaching and tomit the frog sling in the rock, the Taylor Swift's boyfriend. And that's what the team is known for. Those three things right there. Yeah.
00:52:32
Speaker
Yeah, it's just unfortunate man. I get it. It's an entertainment business, but but I still don't know who to pick for the Detroit Minnesota game tonight. Oh, I know I'm going Detroit.
00:52:42
Speaker
often most stage celebration I think I'm going to join Derek on that and go with Detroit. You know, I said a lot of good things about the Lions said they're going to be in the Super Bowl. So they're probably going to win the Super Bowl. What?
00:53:01
Speaker
I've been with these guys all season and it's not changing Sam motherfucking Darnold and the Vikings. They will not go on the road as a wild card team. They're going to stay their happy ass right at home and take the division this year. With my first loan war for the day, the Viking. Yeah, it's definitely anybody's game for sure. This this was I mean, in all honesty, this is what it boiled down to was the fact that I mean I've been with both teams all season and I just man Sam Donald really like really Sam Donald Because came into the season like i be I would be curious to know how the season would have gone Had JJ not got injured because they came in and JJ was gonna be the starter JJ was the man and
00:53:59
Speaker
And now he might be going to Seattle. Yeah. I don't think JJ was going to do for Minnesota. What's Sam Darnold did for minutes, but I don't think so either. Not as a rookie. I mean, but I mean, I, we could, we we don't know. We could be a hundred percent wrong. Maybe, maybe the Falcons are that complete freaking team. Then it didn't matter who was back there. And that's why we're all blown away by the fact that Sam fucking Darnold is playing like a top tier quarterback. I mean, they are pretty stacked. So.
00:54:29
Speaker
Yeah. Um, so yeah, I mean there, we got our pigs. We got their lone wolf from the hell out of everything in here this week for lone wolves. Uh, I want to go back. Where the hell is me? Cause I know I was making some real dumb pigs early on.
00:54:49
Speaker
Uh, let's see. When did I start keeping track of the lone wolf? Uh, uh,
00:55:01
Speaker
to there one one kingdom
00:55:12
Speaker
oh dere I think he got the record outside of Brian, but I think Brian smoked Smith so I don't know. We should, we should have him drug test. always smooth me Hey, we got drug test him for the next. He might be on something. that Yeah. Two, three P D's had to give him.
00:55:39
Speaker
they had to Put him on the bench for a couple of weeks. We're breaking.
00:55:46
Speaker
a the morning rain
00:55:55
Speaker
Yeah, man. I think that, yeah, Derek, the most I ever did in a week was three. All right. Let's go, man. Yeah. Derek with the, with the low wolf record here. I'm winning the most games this week.
00:56:11
Speaker
more lives than the most. Yeah, this would be this would be the week that you that you come out the best because all the teams that are benching players and everybody's like, yeah, it's season's over. Fuck it. We're just here to get a paycheck. You would win the most games this week with them. We're back again. It has been a wild f freaking freaking football season. I know that that's for damn sure. Ah, definitely. I'm definitely ready for for some playoff action, uh, coming up and that's what we'll, we'll, uh, next week we'll talk some playoffs and, and, and whatnot, and get into that, uh, that whole conversation. But, uh, we were talking a little bit earlier about rookie of the year. Um, what's your thoughts on that, Derek? You got, you got somebody in mind that you, that you're thinking of.
00:57:09
Speaker
What, hold up, what, what was you saying? I'm sorry. I got sidetracked. I was looking at something on here and I clicked on something to look at this game and I just spaced out more. He's saying earlier, we were, we were talking about a rookie of the year and, uh, I, Rick and I both feel like it's going to come down to Jayden Daniels, the quarterback for Washington or Bo Nicks, the Denver quarterback. Yeah.
00:57:40
Speaker
Um, what's your, you got any thoughts on that? What you thinking about that? ah Phenomenal seasons. All right. So we're talking about MVP of the year or rookie of the year, rookie, rookie of the year. Oh yeah. I think definitely between those two guys.
00:57:59
Speaker
Now, who would win? I'm glad I'm not the guy making that decision. You know what I mean? I didn't even tell you if I was being honest right now. I was like, I might give, I don't know, man.
00:58:20
Speaker
I mean, which team they were both in bad ways. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like maybe the commanders have done a little bit. I think maybe depending on what happens after the day, you know, like, uh, because the commanders, uh, have, are they already in the commanders are, are, are in. Okay. And say when to get in. Yeah. Denver.
00:58:48
Speaker
Denver

Rookie of the Year Debate: Bo Nix vs. Jaden Daniels

00:58:49
Speaker
Denver is a win and end for Denver. ah Yeah, so if Denver wins, which we think they will, it's going to be interesting to see. ah But if they was to lose, I think then they go Jaden McDaniels just because you know they're in the playoffs and. You know they're not. Yeah, you know what I mean? A little bit more. It'll get a little bit more time to. To pad the stats and and Everything like that. Yeah, because they were both like teams that got brought back to life essentially by these two quarterbacks. You know, like nobody expected this out of either one of these teams. This season, ah yeah, no 100% because I mean the commanders weren't they weren't. They weren't terrible last year. They were kind of right there.
00:59:46
Speaker
It was like that one puzzle piece that you needed to really get over the hump. And that that that puzzle piece was Daniel's. yeah And and and the the the Broncos, the last two seasons, man, the Broncos have just been just bad. Yes, I mean, yes.
01:00:08
Speaker
That might give Bo Nicks a little bit of an up there too, you know, because the Broncos, like you just said, like, yeah, they were a little worse than the commanders. the and it And it kind of, and it kinda, you know, I know a lot of the questions up in the air was, was it because of Russ? Was Russ just not have it anymore? Like, you know, do you put it all on Russ or, you know, and then Russ leaves and.
01:00:37
Speaker
uh Bo Nix comes in and it's like it's a totally different uh football program it's like a totally different football team there at the end of the day. It's crazy how that happens you know nobody else on the team makes a bigger difference as a QB it's crazy like because you could have like a monster uh wide receiver come in the game you know, that comes to your team and then all of a sudden he's really good. But if your QB is not that good, it doesn't improve you as much. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you but you can have a QB come in. That's just a monster at it and then have a bunch of mediocre people. Then he just brings everybody to life. i Yeah, I think, man, who I'm trying to think of a team that's kind of in that situation that
01:01:30
Speaker
You got a quarterback that's good. And then you got kind of mediocre wide receivers and tight ends, but they make it work. I almost want to say, I almost want to say Tampa Bay, but I also don't want to put Tampa Bay in that, that, that light because they do have Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. Now Godwin's been out for a good chunk of the season and Evans missed a little bit of the season as well. But outside of that, I mean, they're wide receivers and.
01:01:58
Speaker
tight ends are kind of unknowns. yeah Yeah, I would agree like God one's the only like big one like Evans is too, but he's also at the end and he's still doing good and doing well, but I know it's mean. but where is We're talking about the bonus. Jayden Daniels situation. For rookie of the year. Yeah, for rookie of the year.
01:02:26
Speaker
um And, and I know that's our style. it I know at the beginning of the season, you and I were kind of on the same page. And then a few weeks ago, you and I flipped that page and you and I were still on the same page. We flipped from Jaden to Bo, but now here we are at the end of the season. And you and I are on two different pages. You're on the Jaden train and I'm on the boat train. I can't say that I'm not. But but but
01:02:58
Speaker
I can't. What are the stats? Can we pull them up? Yeah, I got them actually. So so this. This is going to lead me into the next conversation. I really, really want to. help For the MVP race, but we'll get there. And that was what I couldn't remember. I wanted to talk about. ah i'll be there i'll get back rookie the year Yeah, I'll get stats.
01:03:22
Speaker
So we got Jane Daniels. With past attempts 468 past completions 325.

MVP Debate: Lamar Jackson vs. Josh Allen

01:03:31
Speaker
25 touchdowns 9 interceptions. He finishes the season. Coming into today's game. With the QB are of 101.2 and he's averaging 220.6 yards a game and he's got 300 or 3530 yards on the season. I'm not too far behind him.
01:03:54
Speaker
is Bo Nix, who has thrown 538 times and has 350 completions, 25 touchdowns, 12 interceptions. He's got an 89.2 QBR. He's averaging, yeah, that's ah that's a big knot. He's averaging 215.9 yards a game, and he's thrown for 3,454 yards. I mean, there's not a lot that separates these guys. And now he's in the stats as of,
01:04:24
Speaker
prior to today's games. Yeah, the big difference is pass attempts. You know what I mean? He had like 100 and something more pass attempts with about the same amount of receptions and yards. We've also got to look at strength of schedule. Who played harder teams all season? Because that's a huge difference. Because you have an asset in AFT right there. So who played harder teams this season? And who did better teams? And I also say this.
01:04:52
Speaker
Yeah. I'll also say this, and this brings up what we were just talking about there. A good quarterback with kind of unknown weapons around him. Bo Nix, the biggest name that he had to throw to was Courtney Sutton. Sutton. Yeah. Is that, I mean, I don't put it in. That's probably why he threw a whole lot more to get to the same stuff. You know, he's also got, he's also got, uh, Devon Bell and Troy Franklin. And then his tight end is Adam Troutman.
01:05:22
Speaker
Yeah. who Now look at who Jaden Daniels is throwing. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. who So thing the school yeah let me let me look who Jaden Daniels is throwing, too. I know he's got he's got Terry. Yeah. Yeah, Mclorn. Jane Daniels is throwing to um Terry Mclorn, Diami Brown. I'm not even going to try to butcher that guy's name.
01:05:49
Speaker
Olimidid days, Zach Jesus, whatever. He's also got Luke McCaffrey there. Don't forget, he's got James Connor, who can catch just as well as he can run. Yeah, and they got it. They don't cars in Arizona. Oh, my bad. He's got he's got he's got Brian Robbins, Junior and Austin. There you go. Yes. And he's Brian Robinson.
01:06:15
Speaker
And then, and then it tied in. he' He's got Zach hurts. So I mean, yeah, out of the two of them, Jaden's definitely got the better. He's got the weapons. Yeah. He's got the weapons. Bro, next to be statistically in the conversation with right and nobody kind of and playing in the AFC, which See, that's where the straight schedule comes because you know, the Washington's played harder teams all season. Then, then Denver has ultimately, uh, I don't, I don't know, man. Um, it's Denver have to play Minnesota Detroit because I know Washington. Uh, Denver had to play Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, uh, the chargers, Baltimore, Kansas twice.
01:07:07
Speaker
ah And the Chargers twice So and they played Seattle as well Seattle was mediocre um Washington Washington they played ah Obviously the Eagles twice they played Tampa Bay as well. They played Baltimore Yeah, that's probably their toughest games was the Philly twice, Pittsburgh and Baltimore and Tampa. If you want a third Tampa into the mix, they have a pretty similar schedule in all honesty. I'm I'm I'm content with either one winning rookie of the year. Like I will be happy with either. They've both definitely earned it and over any other position, you know,
01:08:04
Speaker
Houston. Okay. Well, just, just, just, for just, just Washington Washington is, uh, 11 and five and Denver's eight and eight. Right. Yeah. Denver is nine and seven. Yeah. Nine and seven. Other nine seven. I think Jayden is going to win it just based on that alone. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Yep.
01:08:33
Speaker
So just for shits and grins, because we like to make picks around here. Um, I'm going to go bow. I'm going to go Nix for rookie. I think Jaden's going to win it based on the overall record of the team. I think so too. You guys. Okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna loan the wolf Nix over here. I'm not digging this. All right.
01:08:57
Speaker
Wow. did they du i
01:09:01
Speaker
um Oh, my God. Houston's kicker just booted it almost out of the left side of the end zone on the extra point. Yeah, like that fucking and way left. Pierce just broke the line and went like 70 fucking yards.
01:09:20
Speaker
All right, here we go. All right, Rick, I know, I know what you, I know the argument that we are about to have. and No, it's not going to be an argument. And I have, I have the receipts to back up what I'm going to say. So I want you to pitch why you think Lamar should be MVP. Well, hold on one second. Hold on a second. We'll go ahead and I'm going to, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you a, uh, old Joshy Josh's stats. Josh has had a phenomenal year, by the way. I'm taking, I'm taking sake on Barkley completely off the table.
01:09:50
Speaker
Yeah, I'm taking Barkley out of this. And in all honesty, nothing against Barkley Barkley. Holy shit. Offensive player of the year. Cool. Offensive. Yeah. And the amazing year. What an amazing year for Barkley. OK, so we got Josh.
01:10:07
Speaker
ah
01:10:12
Speaker
Let's OK. Here we go. Twenty why don't they give me is twenty twenty four. um
01:10:22
Speaker
So for this year, he's, uh, 483 attempts, 307 completions. He's got a, uh, 3,731 yards, 233.2 yards a game, 28 touchdowns, six interceptions, uh, 101.4 QB rating. Um, that's Josh Allen.
01:10:52
Speaker
Mind you this argument brings me no pleasure. I hate the fact that I'm arguing this and I'm arguing this for this fucking man Lamar Jackson who I think is absolutely 100% up there and in contention could knock Josh Allen off 474 attempts 316 completions 4172 uh yards 245.4 average per game 41 touchdowns four interceptions a qb rating of 119.6 also on the side note and downs with four interceptions oh yeah i think got a 119 man uh i want to go back to josh because i totally forgot about this because josh is also a
01:11:51
Speaker
a bit of a rusher when he needs to. And that's a big, strong son of a bitch when he takes off running the ball. However, Lamar Jackson, um, has 131 rush 139 rushes this season for 915 yards. He broke two records last or he broke multiple records yesterday, but the one big record that he broke was he was the first quarterback to have over 4,000 yards passing and 800 yards rushing in the same 900 yards.
01:12:22
Speaker
Well, he was 800 yards at the time. It was 4,900. Well, it was, he reached 900 last night, but it was 800 when they made the mark. Uh, it was early in the game. That was, that was like the first touchdown he threw when he broke that. Um, he's got, uh, 53.8 yards of game. He averages 6.6 of carry four rushing touchdowns. This is a killer. He's got 10 fumbles and five for losses when he rushes.
01:12:52
Speaker
That is a killer. ah to Josh has two and I believe only one for lost. Two fumbles. He also has more interceptions. Who said Josh? I think Josh only has seven interceptions on the season this year. Maybe more only has four. OK, and Lamar also and Lamar also has 41 passing touchdowns to Josh's 28.
01:13:23
Speaker
Rushing russian here getting that's pretty big Josh is rushed 102 times for 531 yards he averages 31.2 a game or um and 5.2 per rush. He's got 12 rushing TDs five fumbles two for losses Okay, like I said the fumble I do lost again. i mean I mean, yeah two losses. I mean I
01:13:52
Speaker
The Mars only rushed 37 times more than Josh, but he's damn near doubled his rushing yards. Okay. ah i mean the stack and those are um Those are stats. Those are stats. We can't really argue the AFC thing because they both play in the AFC and we all know the AFC is a pretty tough division to play in at the end of the day. I mean, it is the home of the Bills, the the the Ravens, the Steelers,
01:14:23
Speaker
I hate to say chargers, the chiefs and the fucking bangles. but jesus Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I mean, I have the youngest quarterbacks in the NFL playing in the AFC right now and they're fucking just owning. in So here's my number one argument. be so that you Who are Lamar Jackson's receivers? Lamar Jackson's receivers.
01:14:52
Speaker
Know where you're going with this. I'll look at it. I'll be can you name their receivers? Can you name the names on his offense? I got safe flowers mark angers and They Isaiah likely Isaiah like he's a rookie his name is off but name his offensive weapons He could pass to and likely have likely had one good game.
01:15:16
Speaker
Isaiah, like the card, right? Now name who Josh has. I Oh yeah. He had a touchstone yesterday. Now name who Josh has. That's never mattered for Josh though. And he had stuff on digs and just letting you sit out in the field like an idiot. But that's what I'm saying. Lamar has. What do you got? You got, you got, you got nox and concave. You got, uh, what's his name? Secure. Mm-hmm.
01:15:45
Speaker
I know there's somebody else out there. I can't think of his name. He threw a touchdown to a rookie last week. Shavers, brand new rookie, first touchdown. He threw a touchdown to Ray Davis, throws touchdowns to James khan or james Cook. Like, everybody you look at the names on those two teams.
01:16:05
Speaker
yeah josh that's what Josh doesn't have any names. Josh doesn't have a Derek Henry. Josh doesn't have an Isaiah likely. He doesn't have a Zae Flowers. He doesn't have a Mark Andrews. He's got a Dawson Knox, a Dalton Kincaid, who are in their what, second and third seasons? Coleman and you guys got Cooper, which I don't think we just got Cooper. You can't say that. we've just like We've had it for what, three, four weeks now?
01:16:31
Speaker
Oh no, you had him longer than that. I don't think so. I would say i don't think you're going to more than five weeks. He joins you guys early, but you look at the name, but he's only got, I think two or three touchdowns. You look at the names that Josh Allen has to work with versus the names that Lamar Jackson has to work with. And you're talking apples to oranges. Yeah, he's, he's, he's played eight games, but I also know that he's injured the last couple of games. So, I mean, yeah, he's, you guys got him early in the season.
01:17:01
Speaker
Okay. Um, but that's what I'm saying. Josh is making something with quote unquote nothing. Well, Mar Jackson has the ratings. Um, that, I mean, that could go two ways. Um, but, and Josh is Josh. Josh does what Josh has been doing since he came into the league. I will say this year, he definitely cleaned up the interceptions, which is a plus for Josh because that was always a big downfall. How many OC says Lamar had in his career?
01:17:32
Speaker
but you think zeno josh is on his third think i keep track of But that's saying. You got a head coach who's been there for what? 10 plus years in Baltimore. You've got OCs that don't change because Baltimore is a steady winning team ah offensive coordinator.
01:17:49
Speaker
Then you've got Josh, who gets a Sean McDermott. And I believe Josh's first year too. You've got, he's been through Brian Dable, Ken Dorsey, and now Joe Brady. So he's on his third offensive coordinator. He's literally lost every weapon he had.
01:18:07
Speaker
and has had to create new ones out of what he's had. Josh, this, this is where my stats are stats. That's great. You got to take your home or life out of it. You got to take your, your, your, your home team bias out of it. But even taking it out, you look at the teams, look at the difference in the teams. I'm looking at two teams that have been topped here for the last five years, six years. No, Baltimore has been topped here for a lot longer than that.
01:18:34
Speaker
How long has Josh been there? Josh is in his sixth season because they didn't make the playoffs the first, but they've made it the last five. Ever since, ever since Josh has been there, uh, they, and I know Baltimore's, I mean, they they fucking i hate the ra trust me as a Browns fan, happened to play them two times a year. I know what they are and what they are capable of doing and how they play. My biggest thing is.
01:19:00
Speaker
Gotta look at it as a non bias. Obviously I hate the Ravens. My biggest thing from Lamar Jackson is. He was a glorified running back and he demanded for the last three years he wanted paid and and and and justly. I feel like he should have gotten paid.
01:19:15
Speaker
He finally got paid. We've had this discussion about quarterbacks who or players in general who get paid once they get that big paycheck. and the de guy They they they they dropped. I mean, they're they're they're level of play. They're there. Yeah, they're dead. You know, whatever it drops. On the flip side of the coin, Lamar Jackson, shout out to his momager because his mom is his damn manager. She has been since he was in college. ah He finally got his big payday and the guy came out this season, a totally different quarterback. Yeah. He's still rushing a lot, but the son of a bitch can pass. Like who knew he could actually outside of Mark Andrews because Mark Andrews has been his safety net since he got there. Yeah. I mean, Mark, that's why Mark Andrews is the man that he is. ah Again, you take him out of Baltimore is Mark Andrews really as good as what he is because he's been, he's been that crutch for Lamar Jackson for years.
01:20:10
Speaker
But Lamar is throwing the ball over the field. He's throwing it to every, I think they brought fans down at some point and he's throwing touchdowns to them. You know, much like Josh could do. I mean, both guys can make something out of nothing at the end of the day. But I'm leaning more towards- I just feel like Lamar's had more stability for longer than Josh has.
01:20:30
Speaker
i think I understand like coaching changes and OC changes are going to have their effects. and But it's not going to, it's not going to change the the skill that that player possesses. And I'm not hating on Josh, man. No, I know. love to see I would love to see Josh get the MVP. I don't know if he's ever won MVP. I can't think. Nope. I know the Mars, I know the Mars had it in one or two times. I'm just happy that.
01:20:59
Speaker
the um with the frog isn in in this discussion He's not. And that's the best thing. He's not even in the fucking discussion. So it, it is a very, for me being, you know, 100% non-bias. And obviously I root for the bills. I very, I don't think I've ever rooted for the Ravens in my life because fuck the Ravens. Um, but, uh, this is, this is a very tough call for me and I am more, I am more leaning towards the more of this season based off of,
01:21:29
Speaker
The guy really flipped it around and, and, and his ball, I mean, like truly for the first time in his career, balled out. I mean, he's doing everything right. Josh is doing what Josh does and i he did clean up the interceptions. I know that's been a major thing. That's been the number one conversation about Josh was his interception rate. And, but it's, it is, it is very tough to call this. I mean, you you you pull yourself.
01:21:58
Speaker
You take yourself and look on look on the inside from the out you know out from the outside. It's a very tough race for MVP. And again, that's and that's even what taken Barkley out of the equation, which is hard to do. Because Barkley's got a stupid good season.
01:22:16
Speaker
I mean, hell, I'm not even going to take Barkley out of this equation. Who says Barkley doesn't sneak in there and shut us both up and wins the MVP?
01:22:26
Speaker
I don't know that Barkley is going to get that though. I don't think he's going to be able to sneak in and take him. I think it's literally going to come down to Josh and Lamar. so ah Derek, you got you got any thoughts and opinions on this Lamar, Josh debate?
01:22:44
Speaker
little first of all It don't matter to me either way, so that's a good thing about my opinion. You know what I'm saying? ah I like both of them. I think they're really good quarterbacks and they got their own things that they do, you know strengths and weaknesses.
01:23:03
Speaker
And they both had things that they've been working on the last couple of years, you know, that they've definitely improved upon. But the one stat, man, that's getting me, man, is that 41 and four. And that's why I'm leaning towards Lamar. I mean, that's a big number. Like Josh is as good as 28 and what five, did you say?
01:23:24
Speaker
but so that's like that's third my And one pick.
01:23:46
Speaker
But sometimes that really doesn't matter because I'll say this look at fucking Cleveland I mean, we've got talent across the board Jerry Judy Elijah Moore. I mean don't don't sleep on him David and jokyo and we've got ass quarterbacks and there's a but it's like yes, like I said yesterday, you're one quarterback away from Fucking deep run into the Super Bowl. Mm-hmm. Yeah or into the playoffs at least, you know, you're one QB shot. So Don't know ah
01:24:18
Speaker
the MVP races it's tough because the number one thing everybody's going to look at is the stats. The stats on the numbers and everything like that and ah Josh's numbers aren't there this season and if you take his numbers from any prior seasons then you have to take into account his interception rate. Yeah because I'm um i'm looking at his past his past numbers like last year he had He had 29 touchdowns. Hey, but far, a big like exception yeah. Far from grace who was beat min dicks all the time. go to peton manning Yeah. He won a super bowl MVP in Denver and he didn't do shit.
01:25:01
Speaker
that defense one, like, like, like yeah I don't even think you threw for a hundred yards, had like one touchdown and a couple of sentences and somehow managed to get the MVP. Well, that was that defense that won that Superbowl man. nany didn't do anything He just showed up. So the MVP race should be it. It's definitely a hot race. That's for sure.
01:25:27
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one advice
01:25:30
Speaker
I can't, I'm not going to try to call it. Would I love to see Josh win it? Yes. I think Josh is deserving. Yes. Can I discredit Lamar's stats and his abilities? No. Lamar Jackson's probably just as deserving of it. one story That's why it was either one of them. You know, like you said, at least Kermit the Frog has not evolved in the conversation. it it It is, it is, it is very, it is a very hard ah pick to try to You know, and again, you know, not but not being a fan at all of the Ravens, but given Lamar respect, you know, where it's due, but also being a part, you know, being I do like the bills. I do like like watching the bills. And I know Josh Allen is fucking Josh Allen and Josh Allen does what Josh Allen does. um it's it's It's very hard. I think it's going to be exciting. I think it's going to come down to
01:26:29
Speaker
these last couple of games. I don't know when the MVP comes out or when they announce it. Um, not sure what might be around the time of pro bowl or something. I was going to go to the pro bowl by the way, cause it's in Orlando. It's literally 20 minutes from Susan's house and tickets are only $29.
01:26:48
Speaker
damn for real like I'm sure they're doing a lot of stuff like besides the game, you know, it's a three day event. and Right. The probable, the probable for me is like going to the NFL draft. I would like to go because I want to go for the weekend events. You know what I mean? All the things that are yeah going on surrounding the i would almost be like going to the combine to like all the different things they do in the combine.
01:27:13
Speaker
Yeah, I lived in Nashville when the draft was here or in Nashville, and um it was ah it was really cool. It was a lot of fun, like all the stuff they did, how they kind of like dressed the town up all NFL everywhere. There was things to do, like don't want football over here, running in into Pete. It was really cool. They had like certain sections for people. Like if you were like a Dolphins fan or a Bills fan, it was like, you know what I mean? It was it was really, it was a it was a lot of fun.
01:27:42
Speaker
I have no part of wanting to go to this year's draft at fucking Lambeau field in March. That is going to be so goddamn cold. i They had the draft up in Cleveland a couple of years back and being, you know, March, April, it was surprisingly warm up there. I had a buddy of mine, him and his two sons were, it was three sons.
01:28:01
Speaker
They went up for the whole weekend. They went up there for the three, four days of that. And they had, every day he was calling me, Hey dude, Hey dude, you're like, we did this today. We did that today. We met so, and so we seen so, and so I'm like, man, and it is cool. Like he's a 49ers fan. One of his sons is a Bengals fan. Another one of his sons is a

NFL Events & Pro Bowl Experiences

01:28:24
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Browns fan. And then the other one's a Packers fan. And it was like,
01:28:27
Speaker
the amount of players that were there for the draft that the boys got to meet and different things that they got to do and some of the coaches that were around. It just sounds like ah like I don't want to go to the draft or the Pro Bowl. I want to go to all the outside events, you know, all the other stuff that's going on. Thanks. Yeah. Like I want to go to Hall of Fame. Yeah, because something like the like going to a tailgate event and not going to the football game, like yeah sure the football game, cool but if you're going to go and enjoy the tailgate, the tailgate is going to be probably the best part.
01:28:56
Speaker
Exactly. And it's like you can watch the game better and get better view from home on the television. You know what I mean? So it's cool to do the outside thing. It's cool to go to a game and experience it. It is fun. But if it was up to me, I'd do the tailgate and go home.
01:29:13
Speaker
and why the game you know yeah especially like the winner Especially if you're from where I'm from, where it's cold and shit. yeah yeah Like here, yeah, like here, you know, I'd go to a Cleveland tailgate like, like last night, I went to the tailgate and you're like, I'm just going to go back to my hotel or a bar and watch the game on TV. not i yeah i't see What? Well, yo, I got a rock and roll. We're still taking Christmas down in the house. And so, man, we haven't even, I got chores to do.
01:29:46
Speaker
We haven't even started. I had chores to do yesterday because we rearranged our bedroom. So we, we got to take Christmas stuff down maybe this week or next week. I don't know. We'll see what happens. Our 2025 starts today. influenceology what and know how much you know Why, what do you want? All smoke your bedroom around yeah i Have a good one brother. Appreciate you, man. Hey, real quick, before you get out of here, real quick, before you get out of here. playoffs Right.
01:30:16
Speaker
Yeah, we'll be doing the playoffs. um Are you down to continue after football and and still be a part of the sports show? We're going to cover a little bit of everything. Yeah, just let me know what it's going to be about. And then obviously, you know, I'll miss every once in a while because I, you know, travel sometimes, but it's what it is. Yeah, it but I am down. no yeah Hell yeah, man.
01:30:39
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a
01:30:43
Speaker
I'll let you get out of here, man. Have a good one. do You got anything? I guess real quick, you got anything going on? Any any new music or anything like that coming out before you get out of here? Nah, I everything I went on hiatus man during ah the month of December and whatnot. And I had, you know, all that new songs, I had like five or six songs come out like right towards the end of the year. And my i plan on getting back into my stuff, doing some reels and videos and hitting it hard for this year from now on. So I was taking like a break just kind of
01:31:16
Speaker
Collecting life and things and now i'm gonna get back started actually doing some music I had got I feel like I got kind of bored in a way watch the water bottle. Sometimes I got it happens Yeah, it happens. I understand that I had to I had to do that too You kind of had to start to lose that spark a little bit. You just you just got to take a time out usually what I do, that's I usually I'll take a break for a minute and then I'll come back just like heavy. Like all of a sudden just stuff will just hit and I'll just bang, bang, bang. And then I'll just die off again for a little bit. Yeah. You gotta rest that brain. You gotta rest your brain. Give yourself a chance to think. When I do it all the time, sometimes too much. I get into like, um, repetitive things.
01:32:01
Speaker
And then you start to notice that you're not as creative anymore. You're just, then you end up like cool with all your songs sound the same. Yeah. You know what I mean? you' like stuff And you notice it too. And I'm like, you can start a whole new group like dual dude with perfect circle and then come back with a new purpose perspective. So, yeah so nothing new, but man, I mean, plenty of stuff that just recently came out. So definitely. Oh yeah. There's there's definitely plenty of stuff out there for everybody to Oh, I know. I know we've been trying to, I've been trying to stay caught up, but the holidays have been crazy. and Like everybody's dropping new music and I'm like, I can't keep up with all the new music. yeah as a point of that Right. And live my life at the same time. Yeah. So it's like the hell with it. I'm just going to play Derek songs on here. Cause I know I can get them on here with you. Let's go. i'm I love it. if Get him, get him in the rotation one way or another. Yeah. but
01:32:58
Speaker
ah Hell yeah, brother. Have a good day, man. We'll see you next Sunday. Hopefully, we're going to be talking some playoffs. All right, let's do it, man. All right, I'll holler at y'all, boys. All right, later, Derek. See you.
01:33:09
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ah
01:33:12
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Real, real quick, ah just gotta to just to kind of I was going to say something so terrible about jeff and what you said last night. How you threatened your kid last night. what the signal there just ah College football man, the playoffs. That's what I was going to say. Do you want to get into a little bit of college talk without Derek here? Because I know you and I watch it more than he does. Yeah, the college playoffs have been wild. Shout out to my Wolverines embarrassing Alabama. yeah they they They ended the year the same way they started the year. First day of 2024.
01:33:48
Speaker
Embarrassing Alabama last day of 2024. Embarrassing Alabama. Love it, Rick and love it baby. The playoffs have been wild though. the ever I have not seen. OK, so I think the Ohio State Oregon was the only blowout game. ah Penn State kind of blew out Boise. OK, but the the. Was it Texas Arizona State?
01:34:15
Speaker
Like, that was good. what of fucking game dude So shout out to

College Football Playoffs & Team Surprises

01:34:22
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Arizona. Shout out to these little schools. Uh, SMU Boise, I say little schools, quote unquote, uh, Boise, Arizona, making the playoffs, giving us what as football fans, college football fans, what we've been wanting, whether it's a win or a loser or a blowout or not. We wanted to see a, an actual playoff system. Um, Arizona, man.
01:34:44
Speaker
I thought for sure they were going to knock Texas off in that game. was Holy shit. And I did not expect that at all. But that was a shout out to Cam Scadaboo from Arizona State for having a rushing, a receiving and a passing touchdown in a game. Yeah. Holy moly, man. Yeah, man, there you were. That dude in the drafts is going to be unbelievable.
01:35:14
Speaker
Yeah, I'm curious to see where he goes when he drafts. Uh, huge shout out to the big 10 for kind of running the gambit on the, on the playoffs. Well, we had what four or five teams in there, uh, Indiana, Ohio state, Oregon, Penn state state four. And we had the most teams and and we could potentially see a big 10 showdown in the championship. We absolutely could so absolutely good. good.
01:35:38
Speaker
like to have a moment of silence for the SEC. Actually, no, fuck you, SEC. I told you. Oh, they're still in it. Don't forget Texas. you still out this man Yeah. but i I said that when that, when, when, when the playoffs came around and there was an actual playoff system, to the SEC would become irrelevant. Alabama wouldn't even matter. And guess what? So far, my predictions are coming true after one season and I love it.
01:36:01
Speaker
No, doesn't matter even worse than the SEC, the fucking ACC and all the shit they talked about. Clemson and Florida State. Yeah. All Florida State is a joke. Yeah. Oh, geez. Yeah, they were. And come on, man. One hundred percent. I am.
01:36:26
Speaker
Ohio State, I don't know what, I don't know if that lost to Michigan at the end of the season, lit a fire under their asses, but they are on a mission. I am looking forward to this Texas Ohio State matchup. If Texas plays the way Texas can play, this should be a really good fucking game. Not like the way they started against Arizona State. Yeah. Cause if they let, if they let Ohio State get out to a fucking lead like Oregon did, there's no way Texas is catching them. No fucking way.
01:36:55
Speaker
Yeah. and And I need Penn State to just destroy Notre Dame because I talk so much shit about Notre Dame. about so So overrated every year. They're holding a playoff spot for a school and they don't even fucking represent a government. Go home. So, so overrated every year. And I love when they get into the bowl games and get smashed.
01:37:19
Speaker
And then they shot, I think they shot everybody last week beat in Georgia. I did not see that coming. I didn't either. I won't lie. I did not see that coming. But yeah, we do. We do have college playoffs that that are rolling into Thursday and Friday this week. But let's take into consideration. Georgia was on a backup quarterback because Carson Becker to show here, hurt his elbow in the game against Texas for the SEC championship. Yeah. so Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:37:44
Speaker
yeah Uh, but yeah, Thursday night, we got Notre Dame and Penn state. Let's go Penn state. Uh, and then Friday we got Ohio state and Texas. Uh, there's, there's a part of me that hate, you know, obviously I don't hate Ohio state, but I'm a Michigan fan. There's a part of me. It's like.
01:38:00
Speaker
pocom horns But there's also even bigger part of me that's like let's go big 10. That's going to be a game where I'm not going to be bad either way. You know what I mean? If Texas wins cool, Ohio State out, you know which is awesome. But if Ohio State wins cool, the Big 10 is going to be represented in the Natty again this year. Hopefully double by at least one team.
01:38:21
Speaker
Yeah, hopefully a double representation Penn State and Ohio State. Bro, let me tell you, Penn State's defense is fucking terrifying. Yeah. Their defense is fucking terrifying. Yeah. Like they smothered. Yeah, but they got to cut it correct because Ohio State has Penn State's number.
01:38:49
Speaker
Yep, well, they got a game first. Yeah, so.
01:38:55
Speaker
And we'll talk a little bit more about that next Sunday. You know, I I'm going to go on that. What's that will have a result on these next two playoff games? Yeah, exactly. Wonder who's going into the nanny weather is. Yeah, well, the results will talk a little bit more about that on Sunday, but shout out to the Big 10 man. Shout out to the Big 10 representing in bowl games this year.
01:39:18
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uh i think we have a we are one two three four five six seven is eight nine nine and no i'm sorry eight and
01:39:47
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easy but Yeah, like Eight and four and bowl games this year and I believe that in bowl games we absolutely own the SEC this year um Got one She
01:40:17
Speaker
made here We are four and one I believe against CSCC this year Which is awesome, yep, so Big 10s doing big 10 things in the in the playoffs and in the bowl games as well So that's awesome My my right there
01:40:49
Speaker
ah the tuckers on all day yesterday i don't know what But in other big news before we get out of here, we've talked about it a

Podcast Evolution & Sports Coverage

01:40:59
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little bit. We've ought be we we've we've all been kind of taking time off for the holidays. Now we're getting back into the full swing of things, getting shows back on track. This started out as a football show, ladies and gentlemen, but it's not going anywhere. It's it's going to continue as I know we've talked about it and we've and and it's been asked for.
01:41:18
Speaker
For a while here on the quote-unquote network. This is moving forward is going to be a full-fledged sports show We're gonna cover hockey basketball baseball m MMA Motorsports some motorsports will get Wally involved with motorsports and stuff like that because he has his motor sports show ah If it's sports related and whatnot, we're gonna be talking about it here moving forward unnecessary roughness is not going anywhere and Um, it'll be myself and Rick. I think we're both pretty excited to continue this show and Derek's going to be a part of it too, which is awesome. Yeah. I'm interested to see how we do talking about stuff other than football, because obviously college and pro is our forte. Like that's what we we know. I i am.
01:42:01
Speaker
I am pretty well versed ah across the board. I'm a big hockey fan. I don't ever get to talk a lot of hockey because there's not a lot. I don't know. I don't know a lot of hockey fans. ah You know, yeah we have a lot of now. Yeah. Right. We do grown up in Buffalo. Yeah. Right. Sports like a football and hockey. That's all I got. yeah Yeah. I didn't get a baseball team. At least you got a baseball team. And we got, we got all four majors here in Ohio. Yeah. i don't We've got two. of We've got two football teams.
01:42:31
Speaker
two baseball teams. Uh, we've got a hockey team. We've got a basketball team and we have an actually, I'm not a big soccer guy, but we have a really good fucking soccer major league soccer team here, uh, in the Columbus group, multi-time champions. Um, and then we've got a lacrosse team somewhere. yeah we Yeah. We've got minor league teams, you know, uh, baseball. We've got the Columbus Clippers. They've been here for years. They used to be a Yankees farm team, but for the last,
01:43:01
Speaker
Several years there. They're an Indians team affiliate or Guardians. Sorry, but again, I'm big baseball guy. I don't I don't watch baseball because it's boring as hell. like I can listen to on the radio. um I can listen to a baseball game. They had no joke aside from soccer. Baseball probably has the best radio and outreach as the best the best commentators.
01:43:24
Speaker
Yeah, like they get so excited over the little. well There's so lack of action in baseball that when something happens, those guys lose their fucking minds. When I lived down in Charleston, I used to listen i because I'm a big Reds fan. I used to listen to a lot of Reds game on the radio. I'd be out on my back patio.
01:43:40
Speaker
in Charleston, drinking a beer. It was like, like a 60 year old man listening to baseball on the radio and fucking loving it because when I used to be driving late at work, I would listen to the Braves games that came on at seven or five because I liked the announcers for the Braves game. I could never watch one on TV, but I could listen to it on the radio all day. It it blew my mind that there was an AM station out of Charleston that played all the Reds games. Like why? That made no sense to me.
01:44:06
Speaker
My brother in law is a huge Cincinnati Reds fan has been his whole life. Yeah, I've been like, yeah, I've been their honeymoon. They went to, they went to the Great Wolf Lodge and then they drove up and caught a Reds game on the way home. Like that was my sister, my brother-in-law's honeymoon. Hell yeah. That's cool.
01:44:24
Speaker
um but yeah so we'll be we'll be kind of covering a little bit of everything here and talking about a little bit of everything not at an expert status by no means just kind of giving our our opinion and whatnot and talking a little bit of shit merry late christmas merry late christmas beauty handle it was already open package of toilet paper uh she got out shit tickets yeah right no it's uh it's a serial killer coloring book oh nice i didn't know you were about serial killer things Oh, yeah, dude. I love serial killers. Oh, I have a fucking I have a really cool book in my I might in my German. I'd stand about the serial killers, all the different serial killers from Rochester, New York. I like it. I like it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's me. That's all right. It happens sometimes. It's not your fault. There's some jackass throw a package down in the pouring down rain. Yeah, it was there all weekend. Yeah.
01:45:20
Speaker
um Yeah, no, I'm back before a certain somebody pissed me off. We were going to do ah one of our one off shows and we were going to do serial killers. um But, yeah, paranormal and serial killers are another. um um'm I'm kind of all over the place and in things that I enjoy. So I have that book of the Rochester serial killers because, you know, Sawcross hit the hookers in North Hampton Park in New York and I actually grew up sledding at that park.
01:45:50
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Um, nice. I remember we went to go one year and it was closed and we couldn't get in. I was really young. It was because they had found one of the hookers in the s snow. Oh yeah. Nicky and I, Nicky and I went to, uh, we went and seen Jelly Roll. Uh, he was up in, uh, where was that at? Or Boston? Cuyahoga Falls. Cuyahoga Falls.
01:46:12
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Well, where we stayed at, we stayed in Bath, Ohio, which is where Jeffrey Dahmer's from. Yeah. He was born and raised there. So one night or one day we're like, we were talking about it. Let's go find his home, in his childhood house. and We did. And we went and found it. So I just started, as you know, I listened to a lot of audio books. I think you did. yeah I listened to a lot of audio books. You know that. Um, I just started, do you know who David Goggins is?
01:46:42
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Yeah. Like, like he'll basically say, Hey, my life sucks. Your life sucks. Your piece of shit. Do something about it. Like that's his mentality. So he's actually from Buffalo, New York.
01:46:55
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Nice. He was born and raised in Buffalo. His dad owned a skating rink in Buffalo and then had an up top bar above it and he used to beat the fuck out of him, his brother and his wife. Like you speak the shit out of them. So in my book, David talks about growing up with that lifestyle and all these places that he's naming in Buffalo and the kids are in the truck listening to it with me. And I'm like, I know where that is. I know where that is. I've been there. I know where that is.
01:47:22
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I need to know baby Goggins was from Buffalo. Like, that's cool. That dude's a fucking beast. That man runs marathons that he runs until his toenails fall the fuck off. Yeah, you'll have to tune in next week. Maybe the week after to find out. Didn't say that. There's no way the Super Bowl. You got to keep tuning in to find out who we think is going to win in the Super Bowl.
01:47:49
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Yeah. Cause I'm not, I'm not even going to give my prediction right now. I've already said who we're going to, who the NFL is going to give us, but who we deserve, but I'm not going to give you my prediction on who's going to win it. Yeah. And we are both at 100% agreeance on that one. Uh, and Carolina speaking, did he get it? wow I will tell you right now though, if Buffalo wins the Superbowl, I will hold off on jumping through my flaming table until the podcast.
01:48:15
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hell yeah and i will do it live on the podcast oh yeah that'll be awesome let's go buffalo because i've had a table that i have had and it's it was a beer pong table it was a drinking game table it has been paint marker autographed by everybody who's ever played a game of beer pong on there. Oh, that's cool. Thank you. That's his house. There's signs that say keep out. Stay off. Yeah, because people fucking after the yeah after that show, everybody wants to go there. Oh, yeah. So I had this table since I was 19 years old.
01:48:47
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Nice. It has been my drinking game table, like everything. It has gone from location to location to location with me. And it is not a cheap fucking folding table. It is a heavy duty plastic table and it is going to take every bit of me to go through this thing. Like I may be one of those videos that doesn't break the table on the first fucking drive yeah because of the kind of table it is.
01:49:08
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to that actually because i wouldn't want content because i want content for the show let's go we're gonna have to hype the shit yeah out of that fucking show and i will go i will set that bitch on fire and i will go through it Yeah, I'm in for it. I'm in for it. One last thing before we get out of here, let's run down the scores. Currently, Carolina is leading Atlanta 17 to 10. Atlanta is in the red zone. Dallas is up six to three on Washington. Green Bay is down 14 to 10. Real quick to interrupt you on that. It's so fucking cold in Green Bay. They showed a guy open a bottle of water. As soon as he's hit the top off, you watched it freeze down.
01:49:52
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Oh, shit. That's how fucking cold it is there. He took the top off. ah You can pull it up on your own ESPN, Milwaukee. He took the top off and you just watch the ice go down the fucking water. That's wild cold there. Well, currently Chicago is leading Green Bay 14 to 10, but they're in the red zone as well. Houston is up 13 to three our Tennessee.
01:50:14
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Indianapolis is up 1713 on Jacksonville. All these games are headed into halftime. By the way, they're either at or under the two minute warning. Atlanta just scored. Atlanta did just score. Buffalo is trailing trailing New England 14 to 10. Keep in mind, Josh Allen did one play a handoff button, but james bla and then left here so they have Mitch Trevis Ian.
01:50:42
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uh philadelphia is leading the giants 10 nothing that is at halftime buffalo is at halftime as well and the carolina panthers are not the carolina the tampa may buccaneers are trailing new orleans uh six 13 to six and they're right out coming up on halftime as well so There's your halftime scores. Enjoy your football for the rest of the day. Hopefully you do we just kick the field goal to make it 1413 with two minutes in the second quarter. Yeah, uh, Titans up. Let's go Buffalo. And ladies and gentlemen, the dog pound has been silenced for the year after last night's beat down from the Ravens and an interception by a 365 pound lineman that was in coverage. So until next year, Cleveland,
01:51:28
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Let's go, dogs. All right. But it's always the bills. Yeah. We'll get y'all later. See you later, man. Appreciate y'all listening. Appreciate y'all hanging out. We will tune in tomorrow night for a brand new episode of Speedway stories and cold blooded conversations, followed by Men Camp for men. That's our Monday night shows. Tuesdays clicks House of Music. I don't know what I'm going to be doing as of right now. I do not have any guests lined up.
01:51:58
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We're going to have to work some magic in the next couple of days. If not, we'll figure something out for Tuesday. Wednesdays, as always, we're back after the holidays. Jeff and I with what the fuck news. If it's in the news and it makes you say what the fuck, we're going to talk about it. and And as always, we have your penis report.
01:52:15
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Thursdays as Jeff's garage I believe Jeff is coming back in the new year and starting to do his show again We're looking forward to that Fridays is nonsense and chill blaze and Jeff are hanging out watching movies They're changing directions on that as well. They're gonna start watching a lot of fan-made movies from the YouTube channels which is really I think that's gonna be a really cool idea really cool concept and Uh, and then Saturdays, of course is nonsensical nonsense. It's our main event. We do the open door challenge. We invite anybody and everybody to join us and partake in the shenanigans. And then Sundays, we wrap up the week with this show right here. Unnecessary roughness, as we said today, moving forward after the football season, we're going to keep it going and talk all sports. Appreciate y'all being here. Appreciate y'all listening. Make sure you give us a follow bio dot link slash nonsensical network. All of our links are there.
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01:53:34
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We'll see you guys next time around and Saturdays. I forgot. Oh my God. I forgot. Sorry. Cash Saturdays, uh, cash is corner cash and I talking to us in Saturday, uh, afternoons. So yeah, a lot going on here on the network. It's hard to keep track of everything, but we'll see y'all next time.

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