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Stories that Shape Us: The Painful Beauty of Character Development in Queen of Shadows Pt. 2
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This is the character development deep dive you didn't know you needed. The moment when fictional growth becomes your personal roadmap. In this episode of the Growing with Sol podcast, Priscilla and I deliver a breakdown of Queen of Shadows Part 2, where the men's journeys mirror your own struggles with change, trauma, and stepping into your power.
We dive deep into:
- Why Chaol's stubborn resistance to change reflects your own fear of the unknown
- How Dorian's fight to maintain his identity while under attack shows you what real resilience looks like
- What self-inflicted loneliness teaches you about self-punishment and healing
- The toxic dynamics that keep you stuck and how to break free from them
- Why showing up for community requires you to face your own triggers
- And the heartbreaking beauty of characters who choose growth even when it's inconvenient
This isn't just book talk. It's a mirror for your own transformation journey. Every character struggle, every moment of growth, every painful lesson – it's all here to guide you toward your own evolution.
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I'm covering the entire Throne of Glass series with no holds barred.
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➡️ TikTok video by @V discussing the Chaol and Aelin dynamic as mirrors for each other
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Purpose
00:00:01
Speaker
Hello, beautiful souls, and welcome back to another installment of Growing With Sol. My name is Marisol Moran, and I'm a certified life coach specializing in self-esteem and confidence. The Growing With Sol podcast focuses on continual growth and healing, especially in the small steps you take every single day. If you are looking to heal, you are looking to grow and connect with your true self, this podcast is for you. Additionally, I am accepting clients at the moment. So if you're looking for some support when you're trying to heal, grow, build that confidence, definitely hit me up. You can schedule your very own discovery call through the show notes.
00:00:35
Speaker
This episode is a little bit
'Stories That Shape Us: Queen of Shadows'
00:00:37
Speaker
different. We're going to be doing the next installment of our Stories That Shape Us series and essentially doing a second part to the last one for Queen of Shadows.
00:00:46
Speaker
We realized that we didn't get to all of the important characters, the main characters of the story. And as much as this book was very much girl power, we do need to talk about the men and their relationship development too.
00:00:58
Speaker
going to be doing that in this episode. i have with me my BFF Priscilla. She is the the person who introduced me to the mass verse. She is the reason why we're here at the end of the day.
00:01:09
Speaker
So she's going to be breaking this down with me, talking about the relationships and providing all of the Kale slander that I will not be because I love Kale Westfall and she does not.
00:01:20
Speaker
So to begin, i am going to give a little synopsis of Queen of Shadows yet again. Also 100% spoiler warning for all of Throne of Glass and only Throne of Glass.
00:01:32
Speaker
But essentially there is chance that we may bring up things that have to do with like Kingdom of Ash potentially. So just keep that in mind. If you've not read all of Throne of Glass, there might be a spoiler in there for you.
00:01:46
Speaker
If you don't care if you're one of those people, cool. If not, save this and come back later.
Character Development: Aelin, Kale, and Dorian
00:01:52
Speaker
So, in Queen of Shadows, we find Ailing Galathinius back in Riftold, but this time without the Fae warrior prince, Rowan Whitethorn, and without resources.
00:02:03
Speaker
She quickly discovers the situation is worse than she could have imagined. Kael is no longer captain of the guard. The guards are actually Valg. Dorian is basically Valg. And oh yeah, she needs to infiltrate the castle to rescue Adian.
00:02:15
Speaker
And did I mention that she left Rowan in Miss Ward? While she pulls off this impossible feat in rescuing Adian, Aelin is also being hunted by Lorcan Selvaterre, discovers word hounds, or rescues Isandra from a horrible fate.
00:02:30
Speaker
She frees magic and Dorian, and then Dorian kills the king, his dad. So we're in a crazy situation and throughout this entire book. But while that's all happening, the characters are going through incredible emotional development and development within their relationships as well.
00:02:49
Speaker
Which, in my opinion, drives the story. That's what I'm here for. I love character-driven books. And I would say The Masked Verse is very much character-driven in general. Last time we talked about Aelin and Menon and they provide so much to learn from, like so many lessons in how they develop as individuals and how they're influenced by others as well in this development.
00:03:12
Speaker
But I do think that it is important to also look at Cale and Dorian because as we see, they're both very important to the plot line as we move forward.
00:03:24
Speaker
But also, now that I'm thinking about it, I feel like being able to dissect emotional development and relation development of like two male characters is also going to be pretty interesting as well.
00:03:38
Speaker
To begin with Kale, I saw his overall journey in this book being just like very spiteful. very stubborn. i literally just like said he was a jerk, which and maybe that's a nice way to put it. He was so mean that throughout this entire book.
00:03:55
Speaker
And then by the end of it, we do see him becoming more accepting. And i can't I can't say this word anymore without thinking of Sean Solo. If you're on TikTok, you know who this is and But I literally put in my notes that I'm like, he becomes more open-minded.
00:04:14
Speaker
If you guys get the joke, you get the joke. um are you
00:04:22
Speaker
ah hum But in terms of like a more serious way, Kale does become more open minded to the magic having kind, essentially. But what did you see his journey as overall?
00:04:36
Speaker
First and foremost, let me get close to the mic. First and foremost, he was foul. And he remains on my shit list but regardless if he decided not blame Aelin anymore.
00:04:52
Speaker
i have a confession to make, which may be why continue to dislike him and refuse to kind of see the light when it comes to this character. But I skimmed at Tower of Dawn.
00:05:09
Speaker
and i'm not sorry wow oh wow shame i don't remember what's in that book i will reread it now that we are doing this but i don't know he was just very triggering to me because
00:05:29
Speaker
they all went through shit Obviously, it's a very heavy book with its themes, but I just don't understand why he was self-projecting on Aelin so much instead of someone else.
00:05:47
Speaker
Like, he never questioned Dorian, but he was quote-unquote in love with Aelin for their two-week relationship.
00:05:59
Speaker
So I think if he was if he had done something similar to Dorian, I think ah I'd be more open to seeing and accepting his character development.
00:06:10
Speaker
But they all had to grow up. So i I could see the self-hatred. But it was just targeted against Aelin, and Aelin did not need that.
00:06:22
Speaker
Added animosity and sassy bitchiness.
00:06:28
Speaker
I think to an extent. So like, okay, I don't know if you've seen any of um this person's videos on TikTok. She goes by V on TikTok. And like, I agree that like the way that Kale behaved was foul. Definitely not necessary.
00:06:45
Speaker
But there was a video that V did where she talked about the dynamic between Kale and Aelin and how like they both provided this like
00:06:57
Speaker
Not quite no bullshit because there was bullshit between them. But like this like no BS, like this is like this is my observation. Like no holds barred kind of a like you're fucking up.
00:07:08
Speaker
Like you're fucking up. Look at how you're fucking up. And how like they both kind of provided that for each other. V described it in a much more eloquent way, by the way. So if I'm able to find a link to that video, I would put it I'll put it in the show notes. But she goes by V on TikTok.
00:07:22
Speaker
And she basically said they provided this like a mirror for each other. And i think to a certain extent, I do agree. And because a lot of people around Aelin were not quite yes-men because they definitely pushed back on her plans when they even knew what her plans But...
00:07:41
Speaker
but They were like, I support aliens' rights and wrongs for a lot. Whereas Kale was like, but look at what happened. Like, you went you did this, like, amazing rescue mission to get Aideon.
00:07:55
Speaker
But because of that, the king did burn the entire, like, what was it called? The the underground, like, market thing like he burned it down because you did that and like you used magic and all that stuff before that so he burned down this resource for the community and like obviously she can't control what the king does but also her actions helped lead to that and I feel like they even I feel like he could have communicated things in a healthier way. Yeah.
00:08:29
Speaker
But there was still some benefit to getting some level of pushback for the both of them because she provided that for him too.
00:08:38
Speaker
I mean, sure. I think Rowan provided that, though. But he was also very old, so he could see that casualties were normal. So he was a little bit more detached.
00:08:50
Speaker
But I can see that mirroring thing, the having the ability to just fully express their anger and each other. but it just was very toxic.
00:09:03
Speaker
Oh, 100%. It was super toxic. And I also kind of feel like
00:09:09
Speaker
I don't know. I wouldn't say it's quite giving Kale a pass, but I can kind of see with like Kale, it's kind of like Dorian's my bestie. My bestie can do no wrong. Yeah. Whereas like your ex is kind of like, you know?
00:09:26
Speaker
chair So I can see like that's maybe how he's operating, especially because like the relationship between Kale and Dorian is just so... like they're ride or die for each other.
00:09:40
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So I can see why he would behave that way too.
Kale's Leadership and Personal Growth
00:09:43
Speaker
Why he would like, I don't know, make exceptions for Dorian where he wouldn't with Aelin.
00:09:53
Speaker
I guess you're right. Maybe it would have been better for me to have
00:09:59
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like a groveling chapter or something like i understand that he kind of did get his not payback but for me it was nice to see him kind of be lonely
00:10:22
Speaker
when we'll end at rowan
00:10:26
Speaker
I just wanted him to step up differently because he was supposed to be this leader. mean, he was the King's Guard, like the leader of the King's Guard. So you would expect some of that skill set to allow his personal feelings and angst to remain inside.
00:10:48
Speaker
I feel like he was leading. We just didn't get to see it yeah from like his perspective because while Aelin was gone, he was leading the resistance in Rifthold. I'm saying what she got there.
00:11:07
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Yeah. But I kind of feel like
00:11:14
Speaker
there's a point where like
00:11:19
Speaker
When like when we're going through something difficult as people and maybe it's for the first time, like we don't know how to handle that. And like that one person that you're toxic with is going to trigger you every fucking time. And it's like, why am I acting apeshit?
00:11:38
Speaker
And it's like, I would never act like this. But then that person is there they've somehow they just find a way to like get that side of you out where you're acting irrational And it's almost like you kind of have to go through that to recognize this is what that trigger is.
00:11:56
Speaker
and then to learn to not respond in that way. and I feel like that's where Kale is in that moment. Like they're toxic with each other, kind of like how you mentioned. And then Aelin brings that out of him.
00:12:09
Speaker
So even though I think he was already lonely, already pushing Nezrin away, but still leading and trying to work through his shit and rescue Dorian. Yeah. Aelin comes in and then just like causes him to almost unravel to a degree.
00:12:27
Speaker
Sure. But do you think that the fact that they needed to save Dorian was one of the main reasons why he chose to chill out?
00:12:41
Speaker
Maybe.
00:12:45
Speaker
but i feel like
00:12:49
Speaker
I feel like yes and no because for a long for good portion of the book, Aelin was determined to kill Dorian because that was the only way that she saw she could free him. Sure. Whereas from the very beginning, kale was like, of course not. Like, we're going to save him.
00:13:06
Speaker
Actually, I think when he did kind of chill out was after the whole fiasco where... Was it was it Rowan who was injured?
00:13:16
Speaker
Because it was after... um They all show up in the, in Oakwood forest to save Lysandra. And then he sees Dorian, he's like, I'm gonna get Dorian. So he goes off on his own, like a dumb ass to go get Dorian. And then they all have to go work, run back and save him. Yeah, Rowan gets an arrow, think.
00:13:37
Speaker
Yeah. Stole it or something. So then it was after he realized that he did this stupid thing, almost got Rowan hurt, saw how that affected Aelin. And like, I think after that, he kind of chilled out.
00:13:50
Speaker
But then also after that, a little bit later on is when Manon was like, oh, by the way, Dorian's still in there. Yeah. That was such a nice and like satisfying thing to read.
00:14:06
Speaker
Which part? Like when she like was like, he's actually there. Didn't she write it? No, she she she wrote it on a wall. Yeah, she wrote on the wall.
00:14:15
Speaker
I love Manon.
00:14:18
Speaker
I think one of the key things when it comes to Kale, because I think he kind of mirrors Dorian a little bit, because for i would say up until this point, Dorian has been very lonely as a character from the very beginning.
00:14:33
Speaker
And now we see it where. Kale has taken that on and Kale is very lonely in this book. Cause he no longer has Dorian. He doesn't have Aelin either. And like.
00:14:45
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All of his hopes and dreams for the future, whether it was a future where Dorian becomes king and he's going to be in his court or he runs off with Selina Sardathian or didn't know she was Selina. Well, he didn't know she was Selina.
00:14:59
Speaker
And like they have this beautiful like future out in the middle of nowhere where nobody knows who they are. like All of that's gone. And now he has nobody. So he's very lonely. And on top of that, almost in a way...
00:15:15
Speaker
choosing to be lonely because he has Nezrin and Nezrin constantly shows up and is like through her actions kind of showing him that she's there for him and there to be more with him but he never takes that extra step he constantly chooses to not do that Until he does finally choose it. But like I'm going to die anyway. So bye.
00:15:41
Speaker
but Like it meant nothing really. When he finally had that conversation her and with her. and In that temple. Because he 100% thought he was going to die. So what was the point of being like. You and me Nazrin if I don't die Even though he thought he was.
00:15:57
Speaker
and So I feel like.
00:16:01
Speaker
I don't know. i feel like with that part like. Maybe he knew it or not, but there was a part of him that was choosing to be alone. was like punishment.
00:16:16
Speaker
Potentially, i could see that being a very kill thing to do, punish himself because he couldn't save his like the only person who ever really mattered to him. the only person who ever truly like loved and accepted him and he couldn't save him.
00:16:33
Speaker
So now he's punishing himself. Yeah, I could totally see that.
00:16:39
Speaker
Because he should.
00:16:43
Speaker
Rude! I'm over here like, my poor Kale, baby. Don't punish yourself. Accept the love. And you're like, die. I know, maybe if he's gonna have a character development.
00:16:55
Speaker
It's all a part of the process, baby. mean, he definitely gets the character development and then becomes paralyzed on top of that. um but we're gonna get into that during his book, which... I will read, i will read. is Good, because it's my favorite one.
00:17:14
Speaker
What about your favorite one? um um Yeah, like, if I had to choose a favorite book out of the TOG series... I would say Tower of Dawn with maybe Queen of Shadows as a close second.
00:17:30
Speaker
Maybe, maybe. But Tower Dawn always comes up when I think about it. Yeah. But again, I love character development, so. I just, okay, i want to be proven wrong when it comes to Kayle.
00:17:43
Speaker
I'm open to being proven wrong. Will it be easy? no it will not be. But here's the thing. Nobody says you have to like them. Yeah. I give you shit just to give you shit. mel i I could be wrong and still have him go from me actively disliking him as a character to just being neutral about it.
00:18:05
Speaker
and and don't think I would like him because I wouldn't be able to not think about him before he had his character development moment.
00:18:17
Speaker
But he can still be neutral. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, that's fair. i mean, i would say that's healthy. I'm an Aries. I don't, like, forget.
00:18:29
Speaker
Fair, fair. I just love to see the character development overall. i love to see people change, okay? Hence me being a life coach. I'm like, yay, you grew.
00:18:42
Speaker
That's all I feel about Kale. I mean, I'm extra hard on him because he's just a book character. That, yeah, of course. But I am a little bit more, not paranoid, but wary of people in general.
00:18:56
Speaker
So, more so than you. So I think it makes sense that I'm having... Like, it it went in this... and I was like, have you met me? i don't like people. Well, no, like, in terms of, like, I feel like you have the ability to see...
00:19:13
Speaker
The benefit of the doubt before I do. Before I get to that moment of like thinking that I should give them the benefit of the doubt. Like you are able to be rebel advocate quicker than I would be.
00:19:26
Speaker
At least when it's something personal. When I'm like the outsider chiming in on someone's problem or they need and opinion. ah much more... great I definitely...
00:19:42
Speaker
I don't think I'm that way as much anymore, but yes.
00:19:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's 100% true. I think I used to be that way a lot. Now i can tap into that skill if I need to.
00:19:56
Speaker
yeah, Kale, lonely, deserved, sure. Self-inflicted, think so. What did you say? Content to be miserable. He put it very nicely.
00:20:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I think that was definitely him. And then by the end of it, we do see him like definitely not in like a good place, but.
00:20:19
Speaker
it It seems like ah through everything, he found some sort of maybe conclusion, some sort of made peace with, at the very least, he made peace with his history with Aelin, I think by the end of the book.
00:20:36
Speaker
And also, i think with that or through that, also found some way to like,
00:20:46
Speaker
maybe reconcile the fear that he had for people in power who also had magic because i think that was also part of it as like the only like human character in their circle at the time and like later on we get a lead but like for now like it's really just him like everyone else is like a cool x-men and he's like i'm bob like
00:21:14
Speaker
He's like the blind follower that would burn a witch at the stake. Like during the Salem trials with unless someone intervened and like opened his eyes. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. Yeah.
00:21:28
Speaker
And I'm like, I still love him.
00:21:33
Speaker
But again, he does have that intervention. he definitely, i think, comes to the point where like, He recognizes that magic has its place. And also, like, even if there's magic, like a good person isn't going to do horrible things anyway, even if they're powerful.
00:21:51
Speaker
So, yeah, I think he finally gets to that point.
Dorian's Struggle and Tragic Path
00:21:55
Speaker
Now, when it comes to Dorian... Like, I just, every time we take the time to, like, deep dive Dorian, get so sad. Like, I don't know how I didn't realize the first time I read this series how tragic his storyline is.
00:22:11
Speaker
really Like, how did I miss it? Because- He was just lonely up until this point. Then he becomes Valg. And then I feel like now where he's in like this like deep, dark place in his life, like freaking literally, like now his journey is really just starting. Yeah.
00:22:33
Speaker
Because like in order for him to even remain a semblance of himself, like it is a fight. yeah, Like he even talks about like in the moments with him, Safar, he doesn't want to live. He doesn't want to survive.
00:22:50
Speaker
And how like he's just witnessing his own body do all of these horrible three these horrible things because he the Valg Prince is there taking over and basically is the pilot.
00:23:02
Speaker
And... Well, he tries to get Menon to kill him. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:23:10
Speaker
Yeah, it's just, swear it's very, very tragic and spoiler, spoilless spoiler, spoiler. The fact that he, like his love interest, his like solid love interest ends up being Manon, who's going to live forever and not age is, is just like extra, like the cherry on top of the tragic Sunday.
00:23:30
Speaker
Yeah. I really hope that's not the case, but that's what we're left with at the end of the series. Yeah.
00:23:38
Speaker
Like all of those videos that you see of the AI art or like actual art artists do an upload like of Banan, almost like the Lord of the Rings.
00:23:49
Speaker
um The vision of like her burying Aragorn and like Banan being same. my God. Yes. so Yeah. Yeah. Just twist the knife.
00:24:00
Speaker
Like just twist it. So sad. Although... Completely different series. If I recall, I haven't read all of Tolkien, though I do follow people who have.
00:24:13
Speaker
And if I recall correctly, do they go to the Undying Lands together eventually? Arwen and Aragorn? don't know he's allowed to because from what I remember, his... They're going to take Hobbits, but they're going to take Aragorn?
00:24:29
Speaker
Well, that's the thing. i i would hope that they would, but I think the whole issue of like the people in Numenor, they were angry that they weren't able to go to the Undying Lands.
00:24:41
Speaker
but Or is it that Arwen gave up her like immortality to be with him? Was that it? so That was it, right? That's what we saw the movie. She pulled a Lorkan? I read the books in high school, so like 20 years ago, when I was like a freshman.
00:24:57
Speaker
So I don't remember. don't remember because my English teacher had all of them, and we I would just go at lunch. It was super cool, obviously. And um I don't know if...
00:25:12
Speaker
they can go if she gave it up.
00:25:16
Speaker
I think that might have been it if I'm recalling correctly. But then like why would like um her father, why am I blanking on his name? Like why would her father show her then the... I think it was after she gave him the light that he showed him that like if you stay here, you are going to bury him.
00:25:38
Speaker
o I don't know. I don't know. I want to reread them. It's like such a monster ah a job. and I want to reread them too because I read them when I was like 13.
00:25:51
Speaker
But now I also fear that maybe I don't have the attentions back to re-talking anymore. mean, they're very dense books. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, and we're totally sidetracked. Lord the Rings. ah Spoiler alert there, I guess.
00:26:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:09
Speaker
Going back to Dorian, one of the key things being about his love interest that really hit me was that he couldn't even remember Sorcha's name at one point. like Like that was also very painful as well because he was trying to remember like who are the who have people in his life were to keep him grounded, to keep him sane.
00:26:30
Speaker
And, like, he couldn't remember Kale. He couldn't remember Saoirse. like Like, any of these people. Like, at all. he And on top of that, like, honorable mention to Colt and Rompier, because at the end of it, like, she she killed the Vauld Prince that was in her body. Yeah.
00:26:56
Speaker
Like, she did that. Which is why she... And Dorian...
00:27:02
Speaker
and That's my headcanon. That's my headcanon that she's a serial. 100%. But Dorian couldn't have done that. Dorian was actively like trying to die at certain points.
00:27:15
Speaker
Whereas Coltane killed the Vogue Prince and just you know acted the fuck out of that. And nobody suspected.
00:27:24
Speaker
but then he got he came back because a pretty silver-haired witch was him.
00:27:31
Speaker
I mean, are we surprised? I mean, no, after- Do Dorian have it, Le Howard? ah guess not, but...
00:27:42
Speaker
Speaking of tragic, I just think it's just the whole dad... thing.
00:27:49
Speaker
It's very sad, like, he but he did not get a happy ending, but Kale did. And, like, Dorian is baby girl.
00:28:01
Speaker
I just don't understand how and why don't have a novella of what happened afterward to explain some shit.
00:28:12
Speaker
I hope we get one. But... And how is there no outrage? For what? Credorian.
00:28:24
Speaker
From the fans? Yeah. I mean, one, like, he could have been Endgame with Aelin. It would have been a different series, I guess.
00:28:33
Speaker
But, and then his, like, sort like, Sorsha, like, is killed. Aelin, like, they have a flirty, flirty thing, but nothing happens. And then he the one woman he's interested in and wants to make queen is a witch that i don't know how old she was at the time.
00:28:56
Speaker
at least a hundred. Yeah, at least a hundred. Will not age.
Future Developments for Dorian and Manon
00:29:00
Speaker
And then we don't even know at the end of the book what happens. Like, did he make her queen? What that look like?
00:29:09
Speaker
Dude, that'd be so badass. And like, could she have children? Because Aftrin had a kid.
00:29:16
Speaker
She could totally have a kid. Yeah.
00:29:21
Speaker
i would I would love to see that. I would love to see like what happens afterwards. And if it's like a I would love a Manon Pav, like a novella, or even like a Tower of Dawn style book. And it's like Manon.
00:29:37
Speaker
And obviously through Manon, we see Dorian. Yeah, we didn't get that type be so down for that. I skipped it, but this book wouldn't have skipped it if it was Dorian and Manon. But yeah, we should have. We should have.
00:29:49
Speaker
Like, we got that shitty... i don't like it. Like, the the Christmas special, light blue, ah guitar book. Well, we couldn't get it. Right, right. Yeah, acafast.
00:30:01
Speaker
Yeah. I mean... i don't I don't know. See, I i feel like even though of Glass is technically a completed series, given the nature of the mass verse, I wouldn't be surprised if we got some sort of next installment.
00:30:18
Speaker
I really wouldn't at this point. Like the next generation? now that she...
00:30:24
Speaker
Or not even like next gen because it's but a lot of them are essentially immortal. Like it could be a lot of the same characters still. But I wouldn't be surprised if she does come out with something because there is one so much connection now because of the mass verse and like the whole multiverse type style thing.
00:30:44
Speaker
and also she has gained as an author like so much popularity since this series first came out or first started. like So the two those two things together is like, there might be another book or a novella or something. Like, I would not be surprised. We don't have an announcement, right? We don't even have an announcement for the next ACOTAR book.
00:31:07
Speaker
No, we don't. And how is that? have authors of, like, series that I'm reading that, like, publish the next installment and then, announce the next one in within the book.
00:31:24
Speaker
It's, like, a year away.
00:31:27
Speaker
Like when was it a For the indie authors? um Some of them have been pretty big now, like actually picked up by publishing houses. So I don't know if it's, yeah, the publishing house, her like wanting to live life.
00:31:42
Speaker
But. I think part of that is she has kids. Sure. But at that point, like she's pretty. I mean, i think part of it is.
00:31:54
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her slowing down a bit. Yeah, because Crescent City did come out pretty back to back. Right. I think it came out pretty close around when Silver Flames came out. yeah Okay, okay. Yeah. And back to you, I spoke too soon.
00:32:13
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don't think you're wrong, though. Because when the last one that came out was Silver Flames, and that was what, two years ago now? More than that? Yeah, but the Crescent City books are huge.
00:32:24
Speaker
Yeah. They're big boys.
00:32:29
Speaker
i think I think it would make sense if there was at least an announcement by now. Sure. But people online are speculating that like it's not so much her fault as it might be the publishing company.
00:32:43
Speaker
Because the publishing company is supposed to be the one in charge of marketing and all of that. Yeah. So I do think that by this point, like it's not a matter of like her needing to finish writing. i'm I'm thinking that by now she's done writing the next installment and now it's just figuring out editing some marketing and all that. Yeah.
00:33:02
Speaker
Which would then be in the hands of the publisher and not hers. True. I don't know. What I'm hearing is that I just I have to basically hook you on another series that I like so you can start.
00:33:16
Speaker
One that just finished and I'm really sad about it. Hold on, because i bought, well, actually my mom bought it for me, but I got the first Hunger Games book earlier this year and I wanna read it.
00:33:32
Speaker
i feel like maybe that'll be my next series that I start. Ever? i'm not the only person on the planet who hasn't read the Hunger Games. Like when did they come out?
00:33:44
Speaker
i think we were in high school. Yeah, I don't think I, so then they were like young adult.
00:33:52
Speaker
books i think they're technically young adult but like definitely in high school my vibe was more vampire werewolf not dystopian you know so i never read them and if i started reading like books on like the beatnik revelry things
00:34:10
Speaker
See, I wanted to read that when I was in high school. I definitely had some... I still have them i have i still have the books, some beatnik books, but I was still like beatniks or vampires. And I chose vampires every time. but Honestly, in retrospect, much better decision.
00:34:28
Speaker
I agree. Because i kind of feel like if I were to read it now, were they a little pretentious? Very pretentious. There we go. Very pretentious. Yeah, so yeah, I think I think 50 year old Marisol made a good call. yeah My goodness.
00:34:45
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no Okay, but my pitch, and I feel like the audience would agree, is you need to, these are easy books. You need to read the Windy City series by Liz Tomforti. There's like, the last book just came out and I literally felt like my heart be pulled out of my chest and like squeezed because I'm so sad that it's ending. Like they're so lighthearted, super fun books that I think you would like them.
00:35:13
Speaker
Okay. So gonna say that's all I'm gonna say.
00:35:18
Speaker
But um to go back to Dorian, to round this out really quickly with Dorian, definitely very tragic storyline, like you were saying. Very sad. and And for like that split second where we do get to see his dad, because at the end of it, at the end of the series, we do recognize that like his dad was possessed by...
00:35:40
Speaker
A Valg Prince, I'm guessing, because it wasn't Erewhon. So like he's possessed by this Valg Prince, doing all these things. And like tragically, like he was doing all these evil things because he was trying to protect Dorian because he knew that Dorian was going to have magic.
00:35:56
Speaker
So he's doing all this stuff to protect his son as much as possible. And then when he has this one moment while alive where it's almost like the dad is lucid and finally himself for this moment.
00:36:11
Speaker
And Dorian doesn't believe it. Yeah. Like this one moment where he gets to really just be Dorian senior. Dorian junior doesn't be believe it and then kills him.
00:36:26
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Yeah, them and very, very sad.
Conclusion and Closing Remarks
00:36:28
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Yeah, very, very sad. So we're going to be reading um why i blanking Empire of Storm's Neck and then ah deep diving that one in a two part series as well because we do have so many more characters.
00:36:43
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Thank you, everybody, for tuning into this episode so we can break down, you know, the whole thing between Dorian and Kale and their own relationships and development. If you appreciated it, if you liked this episode, definitely subscribe and leave a review because it help helps us get out to more people.
00:37:00
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