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Highlander- Quite Stronge
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There can only be one...episode about this movie. This movie was wiggy and wild, but one thing you can't deny, it's interesting to look at. Even when it doesn't make sense, it's something to see. We had a lot of questions about this one.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091203/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_highland
Music: Cassette Deck by Basketcase
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Transcript
Introduction to Hot Set Podcast
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Speaker
I'm Melinda. I'm Ariel. This
Fantasy Season Kickoff with Highlander
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is Hot Set, the movie podcast about costume design.
00:00:21
Speaker
Hey friend, here we are back again with another quality film in our fantasy season. ah beautiful depiction of what eternal life can look like.
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Beautiful depiction of every era before is 1986's Highlander starring Christopher Lambert. this is yeah nineteen eighty six s hilander starring christopher lambert Sean Connery, Clancy Brown, a few other fine folks directed by Russell Mulcahy.
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And um I just really want to, before I explain myself, as we said, and I'd like to check in with you, dear friend. And um how you doing?
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You know, I'm doing okay.
Nostalgic Reflections and Mortality Themes
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um I'm reveling in my own mortality. how about that? so but um the visions of immortality in this film did not seem that inviting. So I'm, I'm really enjoying the fact that I am going to die someday. It is, it is pretty freeing knowing that um some stranger who looks like ah Rupert Murdoch or like some weird person,
00:01:40
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not saying that all goths are weird. In this case, this version of a goth is very strange. huge He is quite strange. He's e strange. And knowing that somebody isn't just going to pop up on you one day and try to cut off your head and eat your your soul power um for the ultimate prize of being able to die, question mark.
00:02:04
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And maybe become telepathic. Yeah. Hmm. whatever but but is this movie the same is the movie highlander the same plot as cats i actually you know i think they are related because neither one truly truly lands and you can't really count from one to two to three to four you kind of go all over the place with all the numbers you got to go five six seven eight yeah
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Mustafa Lee's.
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A Kergin. oh So my brief explanation is this. And I kind of sold this movie to Melinda by by by recounting my nostalgia for this this film. And the thing is that we both saw this probably the same year, like around 10. And and ninety s and ah Very different impressions.
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Absolutely forgettable. did not You did not watch it. I, on the other hand, was obsessed because of being a weird kid who's very, very swayed by sweeping synopses, right? So it's like, I could have recognized, and I could have told you when I was like 10, yeah, I recognize that this is ah movie, but like the story though, of like somebody finding out, it's an epic story. And so it's like that captured my imagination. And
Highlander as a Cult Classic: Story and Setting
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then of course you have to like lower your
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expectations to what is in front of you. And so this was, to me, a fantasy movie that was available at the time that had like this sweeping story. There's like big helicopter shots. I mean, we're in Scotland. It's cool. It's beautiful. It's It was pretty. was pretty. was beautiful. But it's also...
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There's a reason why it's a cult movie. Yeah. There's so many reasons why it's a cult movie. And like, I i understand that I might be in suggestion jail and I accept that. um Because like, okay, so this movie sweeps from, are we going to say like the 1600s?
00:04:24
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1700s? I think we got it. Yeah. um I feel like the only sort of touchstone is Sean Caudry's costume.
00:04:36
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So I think we got to go like, I think we're, we're late 1600s. I'm going to say late 1600s. Okay. Cause we will see something from the 1700s later that I could talk about what that was, but that is, that is moved forward in time. So I think we got to go I feel like 1600s and yeah,
00:05:02
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here We go all the way forward to 1985, I believe. Yeah. And ah ah what ah what a whirlwind it was. And we have stops, like you said, in the 1770s. I mean, 1970s.
00:05:16
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What? No. Yeah. 1770s. 1770s question mark. I have questions about that. What just happened to me? This movie happened to you.
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I just
Fashion Choices and Iconic Scenes
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lost my mind. That's what happened. So we make a pit stop in the 1770s. And then I think we jump from there to like the 30s, 40s. We go to World War II France. Yeah. Just straight, straight into World War II France. As we all did. As the timeline goes, just one track.
00:05:50
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Yeah. um And then we like hop again, i believe, into the 80s. I think so. And um we have some flashbacks. Lovely, lovely, love it. um This...
00:06:03
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Just to to set the scene, we start for no reason at Madison Square Garden. For no reason? at a We just need a garage. okay but like I needed to see that Confederate wrestler. Yes.
00:06:21
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The seductive Confederate wrestler. Back in the days when professional wrestlers were just big. That was the requirement. Big and willing to wear a Speedo. And here, I say seductive because the the the character of this wrestler is like,
00:06:39
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peekabooing, taking off like the robe before like the red panties are shown. And it's just like the craziest fried bleached blonde hair, like nuts. And then counterpoint, we zoom into the crowd and we see Connor McCloud, played by Christopher Lambert, lit like Morticia Adams with a slit of light over his eyes.
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and Everyone around him in full fluorescent Everything. But for some reason, the light does not land on him like a vampire. And this man is diabolically dressed in white sneakers, jeans, a regular ass shirt, but a cinched beige trench coat.
00:07:23
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Cinched. Indoors. He spends so much of the movie in those white Nike sneakers and that Those sneakers really, they worked well.
00:07:33
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they worked for their paycheck. like They did. But you know what? I appreciate
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I'm just hearing the music from Chicago in my head. um and But I do appreciate those white sneakers because they could not have existed at any other time in the movie. So they like immediately ground you in the movie. And i do appreciate that.
Character Critiques: Ramirez and Accents
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They ground you the way that this man's bangs.
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Which if you had asked me before this rewatch if that was a wig, i would have said, yeah. Is it not? i don't think it is. yeah Maybe it is. But i I think it might not be. Yeah.
00:08:15
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I think that instead they teased and sprayed. Yeah. the You know. The fringe to cover his hairline. My biggest complaint about period movies now that are set in the 80s is they never get the hair right.
00:08:31
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They never. Never get the hair right. They get like parts of hair right. Yeah. But it's never. It's not like. quite there yeah because it's not crunchy enough. They make it too soft.
00:08:42
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And it's not tall enough from the root. It needs to come straight up from the root. Yeah. Because it's like if you don't want it and you shouldn't torture your actor's hair like this, you should wig them up and you should really, really torture that wig.
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You can use the hell out of it. And you got to use that the hairspray that put the hole in the ozone layer. Aquanet. Straight up Aquanet. Yeah. That stuff was insane. Like you could walk into a room because, okay, listen, I'm related to some women who did this, but that's literally the way that like teenagers used to use Axe in the early 2000s was they would just press on in the release and then just let it rip yeah for minutes.
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And it's like, how hard do you need that hair to be? Yeah. Very. Extra hold. Extra super hold. Not going anywhere. and so Kind of like this trench coat that he's wearing at the beginning.
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ah No weather. No weather is happening that would require him to cinch it to like keep it closed. You know what I'm saying? like It's just... What are we doing?
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I was so confused by his choice of weaponry in that garage fight scene. And I'm glad that it... Kind of got explained later, but I was just like, what are we doing?
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I was expecting him to have like a Scottish broadsword, which is not practical, but like, i was like, Connor McLeod is fighting with this katana blade. The titular Highlander.
00:10:08
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The one thing I know about this man, he is Scottish. That is the one thing I know. okay This episode's going to be a hot mess because there's just too much to talk about.
00:10:20
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And like, unfortunately, not all of it is the costumes, right? Like, I feel like I don't want to throw our costume designer um down a well, but... You know what? if i i Honestly, i did appreciate the costumes in this movie. Yes.
00:10:38
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There was a lot happening, but... It was interesting to look at was confusing. Yeah, was a lot. But was interesting to look at.
00:10:49
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And it feels like it's not like necessarily anybody could do do better, question mark. um Maybe. i think it's at the time that this was being made with the like the way it was being made and everything. It's like, I don't know. I got to do what I can do.
00:11:05
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And so our costume designer's name is James Zip. Atchison? ah That sounds right. I don't yeah don't know, actually. So sorry if I'm mispronouncing. But he designed Man in the Iron Mask. He designed Man of Steel, The Warrior's Way, Spider-Man 3, Spider-Man 2, Daredevil, Spider-Man, The Mists of Avalon, The Little Vampire.
00:11:26
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Like, yeah. Um, and like, I'm going back dangerous liaisons, the last emperor, um why Brazil, like Monty Python's the meaning of life. Time bandits did some doctor who, and like, there's just a lot here that is, we, we've definitely crossed paths with this gentleman's work before. um This is a bonkers movie. it feels It feels like this is why i don't necessarily want to punt him in front of a bus.
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But it I wonder what the research was that was done. on the historical clothing and like how much you know because i did have some questions so many questions and what the miss why is everyone dressed is there like quote-unquote like foreign identity stuck in time in the modern era because like we meet, there's the gathering in this film, right? So like there's a gathering of immortals who are still alive.
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And ah we have this character towards kind of towards like the la the later end of the movie that um but Connor McCloud meets up with on a bridge because why wouldn't you just like meet at a coffee shop?
00:12:51
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And his name is Sunda Castagir. Yeah. And he's, What would you say his outfit is? Because it feels very Shogun. God, don't know how to describe this outfit.
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it It feels kind of Shogun, but like... But like, hand wavy. That's why I put foreign in quotes here. yeah i i wasn't sure what was going on. Yeah.
00:13:21
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i At all. Period. It feels like every single Highlander, except for Connor McCloud, has
Historical Accuracy in Costume Design
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ah a frozen point in their style, if you will. Yeah. Because like, we meet... Okay, we just have to...
00:13:38
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We're going to skip past the opening part. I think it's important to not explain the plot. I think it's important that we don't even get into it. I mean, I can read the the synopsis. So let me do that because I did skip this. The synopsis on IMDb. This is not going to explain anything.
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An immortal Scottish swordsman must confront the last of his immortal opponents, a murderously brutal barbarian who lusts for the fabled prize. Okay.
00:14:07
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There's so much that's not included. So ah we have to just go straight to Sean Connery. Honestly, honestly i when We're both melting down. When he arrived on screen,
00:14:27
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yeah i was transfixed. I was arrested with
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the gravitas and the majesty and
00:14:46
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is I was sad when his character exited the movie, shall we say, with a bang. ah The way he arrived, because he he did land, literally, in the film, because he's riding a white horse, and the white horse rears up on Connor McCloud and is like, boom, ah!
00:15:08
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like yeah The whole way you can sneak up on someone in a giant open plane. Or how Godzilla can somehow hide in New York City. Yes. Silently. Uh-huh. Because it's foggy.
00:15:22
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That's it. It's the same kind of magical thinking that's happening here. so ah Sean Connery lands in this movie and he's he's got a very coordinated outfit that is very loud in any era.
00:15:37
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um I put in my notes this musketeer ass outfit. Yeah.
00:15:44
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Yeah, he's got, oh my God, he's got the musketeer hat with peacock feathers. The cape. Yep. Okay, here's where my limitations as a designer are going to come out and people can judge me for. i feel like you and I are probably going to be in the same boat and I do want to throw that out.
00:16:06
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I'm just going to say the combination of this like deep red and the peacock feather covered cape, not something that I would have expected to see together. Not that I don't love the items individually.
00:16:22
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The combination was confounding. Because those peacock feathers are like a shawl collar that is massive, that like goes over his shoulders and to the rest of the the cloak that just like disappears into you don't give a shit because you just don't care what's happening after you are stunned by the feathers.
00:16:42
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He also has this gigantic pearl drop earring. Like it is. Oh my God. Insane. And then he's got this. du
00:16:56
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is His clothing is like, the most if you close your eyes and you're into costumes and you go what is the most typical thing that i could think of for either a frenchman or a spaniard and i'm thinking of like a musketeer but like a a wealthy musketeer with slash sleeves just so much slashing all over the place yeah that's like what he's wearing her pearls sewn on like every yeah couple inches in like and And my favorite part is that that's all we ever see him in
00:17:30
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It's the only outfit that he has, which honestly, that felt real to me because- It felt real except I would have loved for the doublet to be like unlaced and the shirt to be shown when they're doing all the activities that they are, but like nothing moves on him.
00:17:45
Speaker
Did you see all the hooks and eyes down the front of it? Yeah. Because he does wear it partially open most of the movie. And I think there's one scene where we see it fully open. Okay. But the rest of the time, it's when they're on the beach. It's his beach wear. Yeah. It's his beach wear.
00:18:04
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It's like like, I think that that could have come off and he could have just been in the shirt and the pants. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I mean by having it move. Because it's just like, it feels like Sean Connery was like, this is as much as I will do. Excellent.
00:18:18
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But seeing the there's black like hook and eyes there there's buttons with loops down the front that is what is considered to be like that that is the closure but there is actually like hook and eyes down the front that you can see because open the whole time.
00:18:35
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Do you think that this costume was a theatrical costume that got used in this movie? Yeah. 1000%. Nobody built this. Nobody. But it was so, like, it was so beautiful. It's a beautiful piece. Somebody built it, but not for this production. This was, I feel like it had to have been a rented thing. Right. And, like, I feel like it also might have had to be rented because this was, like, a culty movie that may not have had a massive budget because Clancy Brown, who plays Kurgan, was not paid for this movie. Right.
00:19:06
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Oh, no. Why? No, no, no. So the way he tells it is that it was recommended to him by Sting. pop singer Sting. Naturally. natural And that he liked the bright rocked up to the audition and he was like – he had just heard about it and was like, I'll do this movie for free.
00:19:23
Speaker
Oh. So he showed up and did – like there's a quote from him and I think I might have actually X'd out of the the article – But there is a quote from him where he's basically saying like, I rocked up. I didn't have a budget for how much they should pay me.
00:19:36
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And I was like, I'll just do it for free. And they said, yeah, okay. And he's like, so it hasn't really made me any money since. At least tell them that you'll work for scale. Get paid. And so it's just like, this is this is a thing where that that is true and that happened. I'm So he like talks about it now where it's like, I think that what happened from it is that it launched him into being seen.
00:19:57
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and so he did get work from this movie, but he didn't get paid from this. Yeah. He basically says that it, it netted him basically nothing. And so, yeah, he was like on a he was on a being interviewed and he said, quote, I met with those guys and I said, it was a good story. How much you going to pay me?
00:20:17
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They didn't want to pay me anything and I don't have a quote or anything. So they paid me nothing. Oh my God. And the producers were thrilled about it. Of course. Well, as soon as we turned the movie on last night and like the credits were rolling, um the production company logo ah came up and it's a Canon film. And as soon as ah that came up, Jonathan was like, no. Oh no.
00:20:46
Speaker
Because if anyone is not aware, they don't have a reputation for making good movies. They have a reputation for making a lot of movies. Schlocky movies. Very, very schlocky movies. And this this falls within that completely because, and we will talk about him in a second because we did just talk about Clancy Brown. We will talk about his character in a moment because we we have to – For a movie that is about someone named the Highlander, right? Like it's it's about Connor McCloud's journey through time.
00:21:13
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um He is arguably the least interestingly dressed character throughout this. Yeah. Because he's supposed to just kind of be like this everyman Highlander. So it's like they just kind of went plaid, plaid, plaid, put it on him.
00:21:25
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ah Just like all over place. Yeah. Although i did ask us both to come in with a list of three things. And there is ding, ding. The first one that I want to talk about three wigs that made an impression or three hairstyles that made an impression for me. One of them is the wig for Christopher Lambert as ah Connor McLeod before he finds out that he's an immortal.
00:21:50
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Yeah. That was one of mine too. Yeah. Because that way. ah They really, really, really stuck. they They did not want to interfere with his hairline, which respect.
00:22:04
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Sometimes we do that. But it's also so there's so much because it's also I feel like I can't I can't really just talk about his wig. I also have to call out Dougal's wig.
00:22:17
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And, um and I can't think of the older gentleman. um um so Oh, I don't know anyone's name in this movie. Angus. So these are two characters. It's the older man and the the cousin, basically. So it might be like an uncle or, a you know, something. Yeah.
00:22:36
Speaker
But there are these three wigs and I feel like they really informed the acting that each character delivered with these characters because, yeah, they were just like... lot of tosses in the head. There was so many haphazard braids.
00:22:52
Speaker
Like, just grab a hank of hair and braid it There's no... there's there's no ah Symmetry. There's no... And this this is where I'm talking about what was the research like? Because now we have shows like like Outlander, right? Which has tons and tons of research and also...
00:23:14
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generated a little bit extra that might not have been present at the time. But when it comes to like the plaids and all of the things that came with that, I believe that the research is pretty solid. um And in Highlander, it feels very like a lot of these cultural ah dressing points feel very much like if you squint, you get the vibe. Yeah.
00:23:35
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of Sure. yeah broad the stroke shape of something it's very Broad strokes. and so the wigs really follow this as well yeah and so it's like the the braids we get braids later where it might be the same wig just braided for kind mcled yes hard second phase right his highlander history right where he now knows or is learning that he can't die um And he's got these braids like right by the side of his face.
00:24:03
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And that just feels like the actor going, I'm eating the fucking wig. Get it off of my face. Yeah. like There's so many things happening. At least get this hair out of my face.
00:24:14
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is It is wild. And I can't even... okay one of the reasons why I love this movie is because of the bonkersness of Christopher Lambert's acting. It is so...
00:24:27
Speaker
what is it that they say? Eating the scenery? Like it's so, it makes no sense. It's like somebody has never seen a movie before is like, yeah, I'll do that. And it's just, it's so intense and like all over the place. And it's so caricaturized.
00:24:46
Speaker
I can't, I look at it fondly now. You know, as a kid, I didn't buy it. was like, come on, calm down. But like like, that's tough because like he's the protagonist. He is the protagonist. We need to be on his journey with him. And I was not on the journey with him. I have to know No, no, Because there was a point in this movie where I said, is this what manhood is?
00:25:09
Speaker
ah I hope not. this what the fantasy of manhood is for some folks? Because we literally have this montage of let's go back to, okay. What is his character's name?
00:25:21
Speaker
It's Juan Ramirez. Yeah. Look, I, you warned me, you warned me that I was going to lose it with Sean Connery's character.
00:25:33
Speaker
But when the name Ramirez was spoken in the movie, I was like, gotta go.
00:25:44
Speaker
I'm crying. Smith literally introduces himself from horse. Maybe not from horseback. Maybe it's after he's landed after the boot.
00:25:56
Speaker
But like... He introduces himself and he says, i believe, Ramirez. who Why? Why? Because there was nothing on earth that was going to make Sean Connery change his accent.
00:26:12
Speaker
But like, don't cast him as this There are so many Scottish characters in the movie. And like all the other, many other characters who are Scottish are actually Scottish actors who are actually using their accent.
00:26:32
Speaker
Except for Christopher Lambert, who is French. And so he is doing this insane. And he like grew up in Switzerland. So he has a very... At least at the time. I don't know what his accent actually is because I've seen some of his other movies from the 80s and early 90s and it's kind of the same thing going on where you're like, what's happening?
00:26:52
Speaker
But this man who who studied with with the dialect coach for a very long time did not have a Scottish accent.
00:27:03
Speaker
and Then you land the caricature of Scotland right next to him. and you have the audacity for him to say,
00:27:16
Speaker
name's Ramirez. I just, you, the fact, could you, I just, okay. the The man with bronzer on his face. i yeah Yeah. This movie it felt like a hate crime.
00:27:28
Speaker
Hate crime. Because can you imagine being the costumer? The director comes to you and goes, okay. So the character's name is Ramirez. And we've cast Sean Connery and you go, hold up. What?
00:27:41
Speaker
Like, uh, like, how do you, how do you, how do you hold onto your professional hat in that moment? Because I feel like you'd be very confused. Right. And you'd be like, sorry. Okay. So is Ramirez Scottish? Like a descendant of a, of a a Spaniard.
00:27:55
Speaker
Sure. And, um, nope. He's fresh off the boat from Spain where he's been since basically he left Egypt and spent some time in Japan and then he went to Spain And i'm so his Spaniardness is his immortal identity of the day. But, ah oh, is he changing his accent? Nope.
00:28:15
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So we're going to rely on you to communicate. This is a perfect example, right, of like how clothing is supposed to communicate things about a character. Because when they have any of the immortals show up, this is why I said that they're in their quote unquote foreign clothing. Yeah. Because like. Ramirez is a Spaniard, so he is wearing a typified Spanish thing and everything about him is peacocky, like a Spaniard of the era.
00:28:42
Speaker
It's like, wait, what? Because this isn't, this isn't tied with the reality in front of my eyes at all. And then every other time we see any other immortal, they just have like a very video game street fighter street fighter-y yeah oh you landed on it it's like a street fighter character walking through the street and it's just like what are we doing that's why i always say that like costumes can't solve a a problem in your story or with like not that actors are a problem but like we can't
00:29:20
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move mountains. Like, no we're part of the storytelling, but we can't make Sean Connery not Scottish with a, with a costume. And, and it's funny because you watching Sean Connery as a Spaniard run around with Christopher Lambert as a Highlander made Christopher Lambert's Highlanderiness less caricaturized because of how bonkers. And
Villain Kurgan's Costume Analysis
00:29:49
Speaker
it's like, truly Sean Connery is only wearing this out, this one outfit when we see him, but it is so funny.
00:29:55
Speaker
Like, wait, what? Like, why would he Why? Why is he in this? And why why? Like, it would make sense if he's an immortal for him to take on the the clothing of the places that he's at.
00:30:11
Speaker
Sure. it's like. Why is he repping Spain so hard when he's not repping Spain at all? don't understand. And so like, okay, there's that.
00:30:23
Speaker
Now let's jump to my my favorite because Clancy Brown is doing – he's, I think, doing the most serious acting in this entire movie. He's doing the most in this movie. knows exactly what movie he's in and he's doing the most.
00:30:37
Speaker
Yeah. So our villain is named Kurgan and Kurgan has been hunting Connor McCloud through time. Yeah. And so we've first Scotland, since Scotland, which was where we meet him, um where there's an inexplicable battle that is just kind of like hand waved away later by this character named Brenda Wyatt, who is loved her.
00:30:58
Speaker
Like person who knows about history. Yeah, she's a woman in business. And she's like, wait, we're the clan wars real. That's how they hand wave this away. But we just have a terrible sword fighting where everybody's exhausted. It's cold. It's wet. It's damp. Everybody's got wigs. All the wigs are in their mouths. Yeah.
00:31:18
Speaker
there's so many There are so many pelts in this movie. Pelts all over the place. Fish falling out of kilts. It's all over. There's so much shredded shredded rag things. Also, yeah I'm like 99% sure that I've been to that castle Scotland. I have been there. It's called Eileen Donnan's.
00:31:39
Speaker
Yeah, I'm sure I've been there. It has a pretty crazy story of its own because it was blown up and then it was rebuilt way later because somebody found the the blueprints and yeah had money and was like, let's do it. And so they rebuilt it to the way it was before it got blown up.
00:31:55
Speaker
And Now you can go there. And it's really beautiful. The only reason that I'm not 100% sure is on that trip. It was like a trip where they like cram a bunch of people into like a bus and like drive you around and give you like whiskey at 9am to drink. So that's why I'm not 100% sure because I did not transport myself there. i was in a minibus and the Fratellis were blasting like on a on a loop.
00:32:27
Speaker
What a memory. So I'm like, I'm pretty sure that I've been there, but I could not say with 100% certainty. Yeah, i I was also very lucky enough to go on ah on a tour a little bit calmer than this one. But like, we went and I was like, this is from the movie Highlander. And everybody else was like, who gives a shit? And I was like, it's such a big deal to me.
00:32:51
Speaker
like like Because it was such a, as a kid i was like This location is so cool. It's magical. And it's in the beginning of the movie. And you're like, ooh, I'm being set up for a lot. And then you're like, oh, no.
00:33:07
Speaker
but No, but like end in a dirty alley oh in a dirty alley. But it was very fun to be able to be like, they shot that movie here. Like they had the budget to do that.
00:33:20
Speaker
um Oh my God, this episode. Okay. So let's, let's hop over to Kurgan. So Kurgan is, and is present at this battle for no reason because he is from minute one basically like,
00:33:37
Speaker
his face is like painted white and they really highlight like the hollows under his eyes because they want to make him look bad. They want to make him look bad, but they also want to make him look like skeletal kind of like in this weird way where they're like this will feed into him being like a goth or whatever you know what like it's just there's something yeah happening here he's the eternal goth the eternal goth but he's also wearing an inexplicable skull on his head and this is oh yeah in the and i think we're supposed to assume it's a horse head
00:34:11
Speaker
I cause was so unsure. There's like hair coming out of the top that might be like horse hair, you know, from like a tail. And it's like this whole headpiece. But what's it made out of? Like it's supposed to look like it's bone.
00:34:26
Speaker
but thought it was metal. Yeah. Was it? I don't know. I don't know, man. was like, what's happening here? And even if it was metal. was I was getting kind of wolf vibe.
00:34:39
Speaker
Oh, my God. There were like fangs involved. Look at this, you all. i don't know. You interpret everything because this was just like – I was like, what animal is this? Dragon?
00:34:50
Speaker
Dragon? Like, what are we doing? Loch Ness? He's a Loch Ness creature? And so he's like wearing this armor that has bones all over it. Like, it's it's almost like, it's just like the the heightenedness that makes it like Street Fighter because he feels like a Street Fighter character. And then we're supposed to have these like kind of ordinary people around. And then like Connor McCloud is supposed to be among the ordinary people visually. And that's,
00:35:16
Speaker
sticks throughout but like every other immortal we see is just so loud and like what is happening yeah okay another question for you because this is a big question that i had What was going on with the actual like construction or weaving of some of those tartan plaids? Because the plaid that Connor McClown had, the fibers, I'm talking...
00:35:49
Speaker
granular. I'm talking the physical fibers of this fabric. It looked like the plaid was like appliqued onto the fabric as opposed to being woven in. And I was like, I'm going insane.
00:36:02
Speaker
What i is this? That's why I was saying like, what was the research? Because it feels very, it feels very haphazard. It feels that's why it was, I also said like, it's like, if you squint, it looks right. Yeah.
00:36:17
Speaker
because there's a lot of like well this is this is come and it's like there's all this but it's like nordic there's this thing happening and so when you mentioned the pelt there's like this thing happening where yes like animal for exist in and skins exist in like every culture throughout different times because like the the warming properties all these different things But there's like this kind of like Viking crossover at times with the Highlander stuff.
00:36:46
Speaker
And I don't think that that is true. Like, yes, there there was Viking stuff that happened in Scotland. And please do not quote me on any of this, but it's like the Outer Hebrides.
00:36:59
Speaker
are not that far away from Norway. And so it's like Nordic crossover happened up in the Highlands. But this is like, you're literally calling your character the Highlander.
00:37:12
Speaker
And that those plaid traditions are, well... ok It's muddy. It's muddy because like there's a lot of stereotyping and then there's a lot of like, this is how it was before the Jacobite rebellion, et cetera.
00:37:27
Speaker
But there's also like how much of this is myth about like plaids, but plaids exist, right? like That is without question. I don't know enough to get into yeah whether that the clan, but I'm talking about the but manufacture of that textile.
00:37:44
Speaker
I feel like they did something to whatever plaid they did get their hands on to tie on with this Viking-y thing that they were doing. Because they, like you said, there's like torn up rags all over the place. There's these plaids.
00:37:58
Speaker
And like texture-wise, like it looked cool. Yeah, it looked cool. But it feels like they just kind of were like, well, we have to tie together the rags and the pelts to the plaid. So it's like, let's... yeah Pull stuff out and stitch stuff down. And it's like this was their their way to show that these were not wealthy people. That these were people that like had to repair and fix things. But they were doing it in almost like a theatrical way. It was very theatrical. that like I bet it looks really good from 100 feet away. Yeah. But like on film, you go, what what is that?
00:38:34
Speaker
Why are we doing that? That's why I was like, are they trying to make it look quote unquote, like homespun by making these really thick, uneven textiles. But I feel like that's really reductive to people's like knowledge and technical skills at that time.
00:38:52
Speaker
Yes. so and So it's just, yeah it feels like they were trying to communicate almost like economic level. Yeah. by a very very loud way that would be more successful on a stage where the farthest away audience member is a very great distance away and and it's just like there are so many decisions being made here that are so interesting because like where the hell is kerghan from some made up.
00:39:20
Speaker
think he just jumped out of a bog one day. yeah It genuinely feels like they're trying to communicate that he's like proto man or something because he has like this shoulder pauldron that's also a skull that might be like a saber tooth or like a wolf. I don't understand what the hell is happening with this man. And you're right.
00:39:41
Speaker
The one on his skull on his head does have fangs and fangs, but like, It doesn't answer questions. It doesn't answer anything because he also has this breast, this like chest plate that is a torso with even like a belly button fold. Melinda, it's crazy.
00:39:58
Speaker
That's supposed to look like it's made out of bone. Yeah. He's just made of bones. and then like he has a wrestler belt is what it looks like. Yeah. And then he's got like these metal pieces just on one leg and then crazy-ass leather pants and leather gauntlets and like some chain mails thrown in there, some black fur thrown in there. like it is...
00:40:22
Speaker
It is a costume that is landing us nowhere. i could talk about this just for the rest of the episode. And like his, if you if you're thinking to yourself, anyone listening, that maybe his costume in the 1980s version will make more sense.
00:40:39
Speaker
and No. No. no it is It is very much, um his costume in the 1980s feels very much like, yeah, somebody who doesn't know subcultures.
00:40:52
Speaker
Yes. An alien trying to be... An alien looking at a subculture and trying to repeat it. Yes. Because he's got... Doesn't he have like safety pins but at one point holding his neck shut?
00:41:05
Speaker
That was disgusting. He's got like little like bits of of like tattered chainmail leftover like hanging off of things. He's wearing...
00:41:17
Speaker
like chaps over leather pants. Like he's got like double leather. He ripped off like one sleeve from a leather jacket that has like studs and all this stuff on it. One of my other favorite ah wig situations is his...
00:41:34
Speaker
hair in the 80s after he decided to cut all of it off and he just has like one full hank when he says he pops up and he's like i'm in disguise
00:41:48
Speaker
i was like i get it if you didn't do a perfect job but like the the section that he missed is the entire like it's not like he cut it short no and like as long as my hair august my he And it's also a bald cap that's been affected, right? It was like a pretty effective bald cap, I thought. It was, but it's so crazy.
00:42:09
Speaker
And he's got like ah a tattoo on the side of his skull. And it's just like all of these details are hilarious and not like a FU designer's hilarious. Like that's hilarious.
00:42:21
Speaker
You've got this guy who's who feels like... He's not going through time. And that's the thing is that like what is being communicated is that these immortals, except for Connor McCloud, are not adjusting to time. They
Historical Costume Critique: Viking and Scottish Blend
00:42:35
Speaker
are sticking with something and carrying that with them through time as their like identifier because they feel outside of time, which they are.
00:42:44
Speaker
But like we see Connor McCloud and he's the opposite of that bell ringer where he's just like in jeans and white tennis shoes and just like, or, or like, you know, businessman attire, but he's always in the time that he's in. He's always present. So successfully costume in this movie does communicate that Connor is grounded in the times that he's in and he's not separating himself out because he like cares about people and whatever.
00:43:12
Speaker
Yeah. i but Yeah, ego he's able to blend in um his like weird um past life circular trophy room was the coolest thing in the movie. It's very cool. I do love that.
00:43:27
Speaker
So did you see? that Sean Connery's costume was in there. i didn't. Okay. Here's the thing. I'm so glad you mentioned that because when we get in there, I was like, I wonder if that's in here.
00:43:40
Speaker
it was. I saw it. And the hat. It was there. It was the doublet and the hat. They were there. I saw them. my God. Yeah. I got distracted by looking at something else. And so it's just like, ah this this episode is such a hot mess. So thanks for ah riding with us on this one because this movie is insane. Like it just is.
00:43:57
Speaker
It also like, just in case anyone is listening to this that ive hasn't watched the movie, it doesn't happen linearly. Not You're jumping back and forth constantly. Yeah, you are constantly going back into Connor's past for like these little montages, these little bits. And so there's one that happens in the 1770s where there's a duel.
00:44:17
Speaker
And literally what brings us back here is after Connor meets his friend on the bridge and he's another immortal dressed dressed very loudly. Dressed the way he's dressed. Dressed the way he's dressed.
00:44:31
Speaker
He just makes mention of, do you remember the last gathering we had? Oh yeah, the one where you had that duel and then we instant cut 1770s. do have to and i i do have to admit That the wig made me laugh. Me too. That was my number three wig.
00:44:48
Speaker
That was one of my wigs. Because he's wearing, you know, like a lot of men in in Europe wore wigs at the time. Parawigs started in the sixteen hundreds and then changed...
00:45:02
Speaker
shape and name, but it was a common thing to wear wigs to communicate your status and your job. Barristers in the UK still wear wigs. um But this is like the wig with the curls at the side and Connors is like absolutely hard line.
00:45:18
Speaker
trashed i i did take issue gonna be that person that's why we're here i took issue with these costumes because yeah this duel was supposed to be taking place on boston commons which is the giant park in the middle of boston wait this was supposed to be in boston ah yeah okay okay Hold That's why I took issue with some of the costume choices for that.
00:45:50
Speaker
Because none nothing here is communicating Boston. Well, you can't really see anything. it's just like fog everywhere. It's like nothing about what we're seeing feels Boston-y though. It feels like England.
00:46:05
Speaker
Now I'm like really questioning myself. I'm not questioning you. I'm questioning the movie because I believe you. Now I'm like – I swear they said Boston Commons because I turned to Jonathan and I was like, we were just there few months ago. I do not doubt you.
00:46:21
Speaker
And like, am I going to probably look at some point and check? Maybe. i don't know. But like I, because I did not hear and I was like, I was, i was in and out. sitting out um Let's just be real honest here.
00:46:35
Speaker
But like visually it communicated the UK, which is why every time I talk about any of the other immortals, I'm like, what are we doing? But if we're in the 1770s in technically, that is the It was.
00:46:53
Speaker
Yes. For most of it. You are correct. But so... but But it didn't feel it felt French. It didn't feel. Yeah, it felt French or English. It did not feel American, American. And I feel like it would have felt a little bit different as the colonies. So it's like everything that was being communicated felt a type of yeah way. Well, there's like a certain like, even at that time.
00:47:20
Speaker
ah When the people in the colonies were still part of England, like politically, there was a difference in how people dressed in the colonies and how people dressed in England.
00:47:34
Speaker
And
Setting Confusion and Era Analysis
00:47:35
Speaker
like, I mean, we could... get all into that. like There's like a whole thing with like Ben Franklin like going to... you know When he took his trip to France and he like wore his American suit in France and everybody was like, oh my God, look at this American style. Whatever, whatever. Boring. No one cares but me.
00:47:55
Speaker
But it did not feel American at all to me. I agree. And so that... I hope that I'm wrong. hope that you're right because that's phenomenal.
00:48:10
Speaker
I mean, it just, it just is like, what was the timeframe of this, of the production for this? And like, what were people working on? Was it like, just get your hands on a costume that communicates the era, not necessarily about the location, you know, like, right. So like triage costume and just communicate a time, not necessarily a place.
00:48:29
Speaker
And sometimes we do that because we're telling a story to the the public, not costume nerds. Yeah. And so that's that actually speaks to like why I suggested this be on this list is because this is to a lot of people for a long time what fantasy was.
00:48:50
Speaker
Yeah. with something like this where it's you know ah just kind of like a hodgepodge jumping all over the place and like okay let's go into a rental house and just grab a couple of things that look a type of way and i'm not necessarily saying that that's what' what's happening here but um it things were not costumed for a very long time for the audience. They were just kind of like a low key.
00:49:14
Speaker
don't know. Don't look at it too close unless it was meant to be looked at. Yeah. um Like in a very ah dramatic film or, like ah a movie that was done by a designer.
00:49:27
Speaker
um Like we know names like Edith Head now because those styles have been like immortalized and they look a type of way and attracted us. But at the time it was like, we just need her to look like this.
00:49:40
Speaker
We need him to look like this. And then the designer can be sneaky and like put in their things to like land it in a certain way. Because I'm not trying to say that but all of a sudden costume designers like went to college and like started to actually apply information. But it's it's more about what ability they were they had, what time they were given yes and like what they were allowed to do.
00:50:06
Speaker
yeah And so movies like this, where it's like kind of the beginning of, of popular fantasy in movies, the way that it's pretty common now is like, yeah, let's just say we'll make it so that like put the wigs on. it looks like it's in the 1700s. Meanwhile, the costume designer might be kind of gently tearing his hair out going, but when and where in the 1700s?
00:50:30
Speaker
That's a long period of time. i was talking about that just this morning with someone else about like how um sometimes you're really, you end up getting like hemmed in by,
00:50:44
Speaker
The expectation of your director and the resources that you have access to are huge. Like I get so jealous sometimes of like actors be in a sense that like in order to do their job, they just need themselves And that has its pros and its cons, but like you can deliver and amazing performance in, you know.
00:51:17
Speaker
in the dumbest clothing, ill-fitting clothing, yeah inappropriate clothing, you can still – overcome that. Yes. And like it can it can fight you, it can do all these things, but like your tool is yourself.
00:51:31
Speaker
Yes. And then everything else is a secondary tool. We need physical things in order to be able to do our job and that requires money and access and time.
00:51:47
Speaker
And people. And people. And so like... You can have like really, really amazing ideas, but if you don't have a way to execute them, then you don't have your art at the end of it.
00:52:00
Speaker
Yeah. It always will be, it will be present, but it will be something else that is not necessarily to the fullness of your ability. Yeah. At all. Yeah. and So yeah. you know who Who knows like what the vision oh yeah was on this movie? We only have the final product to judge.
00:52:18
Speaker
This is why I genuinely wish that um show Bibles were actually saved um consistently and that there was like a library somewhere where they all go to and then you can...
00:52:31
Speaker
check them out and look at stuff, you know, um or that they can be put on display. And like, maybe there, there are places where certain things are, are gathered, but I think that it usually is like a film that makes a lot of money or wins a lot of awards. Those things will be saved.
00:52:48
Speaker
Otherwise, especially like a movie like this, things will be saved because somebody was just like, and I liked working on this project. So I'm just going to take it, like take it to my car And it's like, that's how cult things get saved.
00:53:02
Speaker
um But it's like when you're working on a on it production, there's some form of a show Bible where you are collecting all of your design information in one place so that everybody can have this resource and like run to it and go like, what are this actor's measurements?
00:53:18
Speaker
Okay, this is the design rendering for this person, or at least here's the information that we have for that character. yeah And here's like samples, here's you know all these different things, right? Where did we buy that? Oh, yeah here's the receipt. yeah And it's it's like, that's a thing that when we've talked about older movies, I want to know.
00:53:36
Speaker
what those looked like, how extensive they were, because there has to be some form of organization and it's not always going to look the same necessarily. It might not even be called to show Bible, but it's like, I would love to see that kind of thing for this because it it's speaking to like somebody being able to work to their best, the best of their ability, the wigs, like there are some like pretty okay wigs, but then there's actual hair that is that a wig? I don't know. yeah What an adventure.
00:54:07
Speaker
But then there's like, there's one wig that I do to call out. yes, please. Okay. So this is this from Connor's flashback to the Highlander era and his first ah lady love, Kate, played by Celia Imri.
00:54:21
Speaker
ah This wig is like the second time I'm going to use diabolical in this episode. It's what did she do to piss somebody off? Because this wig... I feel like was chosen exclusively because of color to communicate that Connor is drawn to women with a certain hair color because all three of his love interests in this movie are like strawberry blonde or in the blonde family with a little tinge of of red in there. And this one is just crazy because it it's actually, it reminds me of... um
00:54:53
Speaker
When we watched Legend, ah ha Una the fairy, that wig is like, there's like 18 hairs and each one's fighting for its life. And this one is just like, this actress is in the sunlight and then she's in firelight.
00:55:08
Speaker
And it is... so I don't it's not a thick wig and like yes a lack of thickness can provide like a sense of reality but this wig why it stands out to me is because it is the thinnest wig in the entire film every man in every single scene that she's in has luscious luscious locks that are being tossed in the wind and by the boars or whatever. They've got like a beachy waves with crazy braids here and there.
00:55:45
Speaker
And then she has these like little, with like a little bow like on the right side of her head that is like fighting for its life. I'm trying. hold some of this back it just it like i had to look through the actress's actual hair like on her imdb page i like went through all of her photos because i was like i i will feel horrific if i'm pointing out someone's actual hair because we all have so many different textures of hair but i feel like this is a very wigged up movie that was a choice that was not because that's that was not no
00:56:20
Speaker
It's just like this is – there's a lot happening right now. And I just want to call it out because it's wispy. it's It's like a magical wispy little curly wig.
00:56:31
Speaker
I do feel like – I mean, obviously, my hair is not strawberry blonde. But I do feel that texturally that that is what my hair would do if I were – running around in the Scottish islands and all that fog and salt. I have seen you with my own bare eyes and I do not agree.
00:56:50
Speaker
I think that you, no, there's, it was like that wig was thinned, you know, like it was, there was, there was hair taken out of the wig. I'm just saying there's there's a volume that comes with the humidity. Listen, if that's true in the world of Highlander, why is she the only one with this hair?
00:57:12
Speaker
like Okay, that's fair. the If we're going to land ourselves in a world here, come on now. Okay, dear God. we got I got to talk about something else. like there's just i My notes are so short here.
00:57:27
Speaker
I know. do i don't even think. oh um I would love to know how much that Soho loft that ah Mr. Nash is living in is worth today. It looked like the apartment from Big.
00:57:40
Speaker
It was like, is this filmed on the same set? That would be great. Just a rollout piano in his like secret stash room. It's the right era. It is. there Okay, so there's there's just like so much that we're not even talking about right now.
00:57:57
Speaker
In the first battle that Connor has to show us that he's an immortal and that there are other immortals who just sneak up on him in parking garages. And he fights this businessman off of Wall Street.
00:58:09
Speaker
ah The businessman has a stuntman. And his he's doing backflips. That's how he travels. It's just yeah exclusively backflips. And I just want to shout out that jacket that he's wearing. That actor. Because he's wearing vest, a button-up shirt, and a jacket. Like a suit.
00:58:28
Speaker
And he's doing all these backflips all over the place in a wet parking garage. So... props to whatever spandex was in that suit because damn that was that was that did some work um there was a really great stunt moment where um uh what's his name uh kurgan uh like carjacks this elderly couple and he like throws the man out of the car but this poor woman is in the car with him but then like the next moment that we see them driving she's like hanging onto the hood for dear life and i was like if that
00:59:03
Speaker
ain't a six foot tall stunt man in a wig, then I don't know anything. And I also want to shout out that that that woman who we like see her face, like a slice of her face, she's wearing one of these old like hair hoods that are very 60s, 70s, 50s, 60s, 70s coded. And so it feels like something that, yeah, an older woman might still have like in the 80s.
00:59:30
Speaker
And it's just like, oh, it's ah it's a rain bonnet, essentially. just like, yes, keep but keep that perm alive. Honestly, would wear one now.
00:59:42
Speaker
like i mean, it's a practical item. not going lie. Where else do we go in this? We go, there's like...
Character Costumes and Storytelling
00:59:51
Speaker
Honestly, like, weirdly, don't go that many places. We don't. We go to, like, Brenda Wyatt's... Is it Brenda?
01:00:00
Speaker
yeah Oh, didn't you love that almost every scene that she was in, she was wearing plaid? Okay, she was wearing plaid and every single scene she was in, her earrings were doing that very 80s, 90s-y thing.
01:00:12
Speaker
This is not saying this is exclusive to this time, but like earrings were very big and very colorful and all of her earrings match all of her plaid. like She is...
01:00:24
Speaker
really on point. And her hair is so soft. Her hair is the softest hair of anybody's hair in this entire movie, which makes me go, is that her hair?
01:00:35
Speaker
like I thought it was, but I don't know. i think it could be because it was, it was very soft and like, Very bountiful, which makes you go, hmm. But it was like, it felt not cri crispy or crunchy like a lot of some of the other hair does.
01:00:52
Speaker
yeah And I was just like, good for you, Brenda, with you and your plaid and your earrings running around. the The lines that that character has are insane. Everything that she has to say in this movie is insane.
01:01:05
Speaker
I did like when she was being abducted and she and like knocked herself unconscious by screaming so much. That felt very real to me.
01:01:17
Speaker
We also have like this whole storyline after the the Madison square garden in the beginning. God, good luck, anybody. I'm trying to be based on how we're talking about it.
01:01:29
Speaker
But at the beginning, When we had this first Immortals fight at ah in the parking garage of Madison Square Garden, the police think that Connor McCloud's modern day persona, Russell Nash, is like basically a sword wielding serial killer. They're not wrong, though. They're not wrong. But they also forgot to mention that he has sword gloves that he's always wearing now whenever he sword fights um which was crazy watching two people in 80s clothing wear sword gloves to fight um but like the the police are insane as a warning there is ah very homophobic conversation that happens in like an interrogation scene right and um
01:02:15
Speaker
it's, it's a crazy thing to have like these, it's not like crazy. Cause it's a cab, but, uh, cops are bonkers. got try And we do have like a bunch of extras in the highlands. We have extras in modern day, quote unquote, New York.
01:02:33
Speaker
Uh, we have a bunch of like people on the street. And so there's just a lot of like, I don't know where, what you wear kind of situation. yeah um And like in the eighties, it felt very like the eighties, early nineties that I remember.
01:02:48
Speaker
Like it didn't feel stereotyped eighties because partially it was being designed at the time. So it was just supposed to be regular wear. Yeah. um Which I do appreciate because the balance of the, the street fighter and the just everyday eighties American clothing made sense.
01:03:10
Speaker
Yeah. like that yeah like i was grounding i felt like oh thank you for like bringing me to earth for a little bit i appreciate it because like so much so much else in the movie is just like a rubber ball bouncing into high extremes that it was like nice to be kind of like cradled by ah recognizable truth in in the clothing but um I do. Last thing I want to shout out is Connor McCloud slash Russell, Russell Nash's white sneakers. I really cannot shout out those shoes enough.
01:03:45
Speaker
They were great. For all the messiness that he finds himself in he's in like completely wet places. He's in blood. He's in garbage. He's in mud all over this.
01:03:57
Speaker
Those shoes hang on. They're crisp. but They are like, you can see a little bit of aging, i think in a closeup at the beginning. which makes them look normal. But I don't think that anything happens to them after that. Like they are just fine. They are frozen in time. Like him, i think. Yeah.
01:04:16
Speaker
I think you nailed it. I that's it. This movie made me feel crazy. and I'm glad that we watched it because it is like a pop culture, like fantasy movie part of the timeline. So
Highlander's Legacy and Next Episode Preview
01:04:31
Speaker
it's like, sure. Might as well see where we're headed to and where we've come from, you know, like a in film design. I'm trying to make a rose out of a dirty old potato. Okay. Okay.
01:04:46
Speaker
No, I hear you, though. I hear you. um It's sort of like, um you know, the if the children don't learn the history, they won't know how good they have it. Yes.
01:04:57
Speaker
And that is what this feels like. This feels like they're theyre they keep saying that they're going to remake it. Supposedly Henry Cavill is attached to a new version. um but I'm very curious to see how it turns out. And if it does come out and it gets remade, we will be talking about it because correct.
01:05:16
Speaker
Anything with Henry Cavill in it, I will talk about it. Oh, you're not going to find it. I want to drag it the theater for that one. No, but like, i will be curious to see what they do and how, how the approach to costuming changes because of like a different era of accessibility, et cetera.
01:05:33
Speaker
um But yeah, it really is like, If we're going to talk about fantasy, sometimes we have to talk about like the where we came from. And this is one of them. This is one of them.
01:05:44
Speaker
And so the rest of the season, i do not think will taste so bitter. ah We'll find out. We'll find out though. We will find out. But thank you for trying this because this this truly was such a formative movie for me.
01:06:00
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And like watching it in my later 30s is like, I am so glad that we have different things that exist now. And the only target audience is not young men.
01:06:13
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And like the only story is not this hero's journey being told. And that I think is also a pretty big part of like why I did want to talk about it, even though we're not like talking about that philosophically throughout the episode is that it truly is like, this is where we started and people saw things like this were inspired by it and had careers where they did very different things.
01:06:41
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And so- I'm very glad that those things exist. such and That's so true. That's such a nice... but Yeah. So where do we from here?
01:06:54
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thank you so much for listening to this episode. And Melinda, dear friend, thank you so much for suffering through this movie because it is unless you watched it and loved it at one point, it is not necessarily going to bring you on board. it is very much a cult movie. Like yeah you, you kind of have to want to be part of the world.
01:07:16
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And, um, Yeah. it Pretty much I'm a really, just a really nice person. this going to have a lot of me wheezing.
01:07:32
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so and But we're going to switch gears for our next movie. Yes, we are. We're going to explore a different kind of fantasy and we're looking forward to it because this one was a big one for me as a kid. Was it big for you and your youth?
01:07:48
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massive have you read the book i have and i flippin loved it and so we will be watching the princess bride yay please join us on that episode thank you so much for listening bye