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34- Money-Saving Hacks and Nesting: The Follow-Up

Can We Interest You In...?
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In the follow-up to our episode about money-saving hacks and nesting with Becca Russo we get into the nitty gritty of how to save money, how to nest, and how to save money while nesting! Patti and Charlotte start with a check-in. Check-in topics include: A deep dive into naps. Charlotte’s half-marathon training tips (they involve donuts and the Nike Run Club App) Patti’s progress on her 2026 goal of learning to do an underwater flip kick. Our etiquette anxiety in different sports. Dog behavior Going to the No Kings protest with Margot (who was featured in our episode on protest!) At 28:00 we report back on our homework. Patti shares her adventures in couponing; Charlotte has been making use of credit card rewards. We talk about the Space Doula quiz and go in depth into Patti’s results. We talk about our nesting challenges, including how to follow through when you’re not a born nester. We talk strategies for reducing analysis paralysis. How many episodes in a row can Charlotte mention the man who's always on her mind--Vincent D’Onofrio from Law and Order: Criminal Intent? Patti helps Charlotte do a root cause analysis into the clothing piles that impact her nesting. We give ourselves assignments after the assignment and set a time for co-nesting to make sure we’ll do it. We talk Trusted Housesitter as a money-saving tool. And then we wrap things up with a discussion of accessibility and the LOIS scale! Links: https://spacedoula.com/ https://www.trustedhousesitters.com/ Logo design by Marielle Martin Song: Upbeat Drums with Stomps and Claps by music_for_video BlueSky: @canweinterestyouin.bsky.social Instagram: @canweinterestyouin Email us your interests! CanWeInterestYouIn@gmail.com Website: canweinterestyouin.com [http://canweinterestyouin.com/]

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Speaker: You know that thing you love that your friends and family don't want to hear about anymore? Tell it to us, Patty and Charlotte. We want to learn all about your weird and wild obsessions or your perfectly normal hobbies that you've taken just a little too far.

Speaker: We want to dabble in your curious interests. Can we interest you in today's episode?

Speaker: Hi, Patty. Hey, Charlotte. Hey, how are you doing? I'd like spice it up a little. It was very ghost-like. like oh are you

Speaker: I'm doing all right. It's a Sunday, which is kind of fun and interesting. Easter. Yeah. Easter, yeah. Time stamp. I had an early morning, but then I napped for like so long today.

Speaker: So it was both a nice thing and also kind of made me feel a little lethargic slash depressed. was like, I don't need to be sleeping this much.

Speaker: That is why I do not like naps. no Like we've talked about this. um It's just like I don't get naps. I can't fall asleep in the middle of the day unless I have to.

Speaker: and then you wake up all like confused, existentially kind of in despair sometimes. Wait, what is a reason that you have to sleep in the middle of the day? Like I can't not.

Speaker: i Like I can't stay awake. you know okay Like I'm so tired that I just fall asleep apropos of nothing. aha ahha Not because you're trying to.

Speaker: Right. Usually it's like because I'm trying to read and I fall asleep. That's always when that happens. I was thinking about that and I was like, i wonder if part of it is because of that downward looking of my eyes because I regularly have my book below me and then I'm like looking down and so my eyes are just in this kind of position of sleep. I don't know, of like trying to close. and like Your eyelids are like, oh, we're so close. We're so close. Stop moving those things, those eyeballs. Although they do move while we're sleeping too. But yeah, I i was thinking about that the other day. I'm like, do I need to just like reposition? Although I do remember hearing people talk about like,

Speaker: holding the book up and then it just falls on their head because they fell asleep. and That has definitely happened to me, but not while I was asleep. It just fell on me. but That's why you can't have um hardcover books or it has to be in a pillowcase or something. Like not a pillowcase, but a case that is a pillow.

Speaker: think I've done it with a tablet too where it fell on me. no I'm okay. um How are you? I am doing pretty good. i ran today because the half marathon is next Sunday.

Speaker: my gosh. Yeah. So I'm feeling good. Pretty good. Pretty good. We're going to see, i think the main issue is going to be feet.

Speaker: feet Muscles, the endure everything. Everything's possible point of failure. We're going to find out. um But I am pretty excited about the carbo-loading, of course, is like the the most exciting part for me because I do eat pasta almost every day of the week.

Speaker: And this is a great reason to to do that even more. Yeah. Not feel weird about it. Like I should be varying things.

Speaker: Do you have a plan of which pastas or which carbs you're going to load on this this week? I did buy some things today. So it's going to be like pasta, pretzels, they said, bananas. Salt.

Speaker: Salt. Well, and because of the carbs, yeah bagels, and like just have those things available for when it gets closer to the time in case I need to, like I'm not having enough carbs and just have those. Gatorade apparently has a ton of carbs because got a ton of sugar, i think. That's why. So yeah.

Speaker: And Gatorade is delicious. So I will be drinking that closer to the time too. And so on the race day, will anybody be there cheering you along the way? i have invited people to come at the end, like my family to come towards the end.

Speaker: But cool I did not. i guess they could come along the way. It's going to take me a long time. So yeah' I figure they'll come closer to the end and just...

Speaker: cheer me on there yeah celebrate with you that's really cool mostly are you feeling okay nervous excited all the things pretty excited not nervous yet um pretty excited and it's right now i feel I feel good enough. Like my shins feel good. i think my the way that i run is a little bit maybe contributing to the issues. And so then sometimes I think about it too much when I'm running, but it's okay.

Speaker: It's all right. I did a 10 mile run last weekend and I lived. so Wow. And is that kind of the peak? and then that That was the peak for me because because I got behind because of the shin splints.

Speaker: Yeah. So the shin splints were the biggest problem. And I know you said you had a train, like a personal trainer that you got at the community center. Yeah. Rec center. Thank you. And did that helped?

Speaker: Yeah. She's been helping me with lots of different types of things that I can do. And she would tell me like, okay, you could do these things. and Why don't you try this? But then I did every single thing.

Speaker: And so I don't know which ones were the ones that were helping. I did all of the things at once. ah Always. ah Also, there was like for the past, not not the last long run, but the few before that, I was doing this thing where I would like run to the donut shop and get a donut and then eat it and then run back.

Speaker: And that I highly recommend. Okay. So you are all about the along the route. I want there to be something, whether it's eggnog or donut. I need there to be a reason to get to the place where I'm going and keep going.

Speaker: Yeah. It's like just today we were outside in the yard and my nephew kept throwing the ball over like the fence intentionally. And at one point he thought nobody was looking and he just – he was being kind of coy about it at first like – oh man, I hit it over the fence. ah i I kicked it over the fence. And then at one point he thought nobody was watching. And so he just literally threw it over the fence. And I was like, dude, you could just climb the fence. And my sister was like, but that would be pointless. Like there's no reason to climb the fence if there's not. a I'm like, oh yeah, right. We do like to have a reason, even if we just want to do the thing.

Speaker: He's just wanting to climb the fence just for the fun of it. Yeah. Yeah. He likes to climb anything. I know. i know. What do you listen to or do you listen to something while you run?

Speaker: I've been using the Nike Run Club app and they'll have these guided runs. So they will do the guiding during part of the time and then you can like link up Spotify or Apple for music at the same time. So sometimes I will have music Sometimes I was having like podcasts, which is quite weird because it's like somebody talking and then the the guided run cuts in and is like talking to you. And then like goes back to the other person talking. And depending on what I was listening to sometimes the the messages I'd be getting would be very like opposite.

Speaker: Like there was a time where I was listening to this writing podcast where she's talking about, you can always slow down, take a break, you know? And then you go to the writing guy, or not writing guy, the the running guy. And he's like, you got this, you can go, you know? Very motivational.

Speaker: Keep going, never stop. you're You're fine. Speed up. like he's actually He's actually quite good because he's always like, You could slow down if you want. Sometimes people think that they shouldn't, but those people are probably injured right now and not running at all. He's actually really great.

Speaker: That's so cool. So when you say a guided run, I've never done like the Nike app. So it's it's kind of having a coach there along with you. yeah And so do they talk about like remind you of form or...

Speaker: Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well, okay. All this, like I learned so much from just doing those guided runs from the app that I never knew before. Like I never knew that I was running wrong. Like my arms were just like swishing in front of me and like, you're not supposed to do that. That very, what's his name?

Speaker: Chris Farley as ah and done the man living in a van down by the river. yeah Motivational speaker. Matt Foley.

Speaker: ah Yes, that's right. that That was me when I would run. But not anymore. cool That's really great. Yeah. My, the older nephew, he started, he signed up for a soccer club or something at school. And he's like, Oh, I keep getting this like pain in my side, but it's only in one side. And I was like, that's a catch. And he was like, no, it's just, and it's really bad. I'm like, okay, well, this is how you should be breathing, you know? And I don't,

Speaker: I'm not in shape right now, so I don't but like blame him at all for not really listening to me at first, but I was like, I used to run marathons. Listen to me. Wait, what's a catch?

Speaker: what's a I'm sorry, really? You've never had a catch? Well, I'm sure i've had one, but like what what how do you not yeah like get one? Where it's like, it kind of Right by your ribs or below, it it hurts on one side or the other. And it's like kind of a sharp pain when you breathe.

Speaker: Feels maybe a little bit like a cramp, but not like a period cramp. Okay. I probably thought it was a cramp at the time and that's probably what it was. So is that just if you're breathing incorrectly or I thought it was you drink too much water?

Speaker: Yeah, it can be from drinking too much water. It can also be from like your breathing if it's just – breathing usually is the thing that at least as far as I know, and I'm not an expert on this at all, but although I just said like, I ran marathons. um Not an expert. Multiple. I mean, it's more than one. Yeah.

Speaker: Although there are reasons, I know, that you had to write yeah run multiples. Yes. The way that you can solve it is through your breath. I know that for sure. Oh, okay. That's good to know. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. well But how is your swimming? Because are you still doing your learning swimming? Yeah, my classes ended and it kind of ended with such an anticlimactic, annoying situation. My teacher was a little bit of a, I don't know, I keep wanting to say boner. I don't know why though. That's not a word that I actually ever use, but she was fine enough, but definitely didn't know how to teach not children. She was regularly kind of late for our sessions, sometimes wouldn't get it in the pool because she was running late or not feeling well.

Speaker: And the last session, i had to at the last minute, pick up my niece and nephew from school, the younger two. And so I had to bring them with me to the class. And so I'm dropping them off at the top watch and The youngest was feeling kind of, he was super emotional, I think probably getting sick and he was crying and I'm like, it'll just be for 30 minutes. I, you know, I'll come get you as soon as I possibly can. So was like dropping them off, feeling horrible about this, but I'm like, I i have to keep my commitment. And she showed up for a 30 minute class. She showed up 17 minutes late.

Speaker: And like, and then didn't communicate at all. Didn't do the, did she, what? And then only did what, 13 minutes? No, I, I actually just said like, so she's like, oh, sorry, I'm late. Kind of apologized. And I had just been swimming the whole time myself. And I was like, that's okay. Thanks for everything. I've got it. And she's like, so which stroke do you want to work on? And I was like, no, I'm just going to continue doing what I've been doing here.

Speaker: and thank you for everything. You don't have to stay. And you could tell she was a little miffed, and I did feel bad. But then I was also like, I'm so annoyed with her right now. I would not have been polite. And I couldn't – I was not about to stay longer because I had already told the kids, like, I will only be 30 minutes. I – it was so thoughtless. Like she's like, oh it was such a crazy day. And I'm like, yeah, I can relate. It took a lot for me to get here. And there's this trying crying child, like, yeah you know, yeah lessons ended, but it was great to have an excuse to be in the pool each week.

Speaker: It was so nice. I would go into the hot tub after and like, just enjoy that. And because it was in the, late winter, early spring. It was very cold still and just felt great. And it was, I learned a couple of things that I think I can try to continue to incorporate. So, and I did learn the flip kick, which she told me, yeah, people don't really do this anymore. Like even Olympians and stuff. Cause they found that it doesn't actually save them time. And I was like, it's not about saving time. i want to I want to do it. Yeah.

Speaker: I'm not a machine. I just want to look cool. Okay. exactly Yeah. And so many of my questions were about like, okay, so when you get into the pool, like I wanted to learn about lane etiquette, which of course there are signs up that say what it is, but I'm like, no, no, no. Like give me the real rundown because i feel so intimidated so often if there are are already people in all of the lanes like how do I determine which one and how do you communicate with the person and like do you stay in your lane back and forth or do you guys loop and how does that all work and can I do the breaststroke if I'm sharing a lane because that one really kind of takes up both sides of the lane like so wait you could share a lane okay i don't know any of that stuff so I could totally understand why you'd want to know

Speaker: Yeah, which is why like in so many of the lanes, there's the black line down the center. So you can kind of see you're on this side, like you stay on your side of the lane, i think. That's what I always assumed it was. But yeah, people share lanes. And that just stresses me out.

Speaker: I think that is why I like a sport like running, because there are so few of those etiquette kinds of rules. Disc golf, surfing, ah I don't know.

Speaker: I'm sure there's a ton of others where there's like very specific kinds of rules that you have to learn sometimes by getting them wrong. ah And I don't, I don't want to do that. That's, it's uncomfortable.

Speaker: Yeah. Well, cause what would you say are some of the rules that you have to figure out either while training running, like doing your training runs or on race day?

Speaker: I think those are probably just like, those are not social kinds of etiquette rules. I guess I probably things like don't ah stand up front. If you run a 14 minute mile like that, that's maybe the main rule. Yeah.

Speaker: I'm gonna make everybody dodge around me. Oh, you're trying to get a personal best? me too, but it's gonna be longer.

Speaker: ah Me too.

Speaker: So those, ah are there other rules? I don't know. Yeah, no, i don't know. Even just like on paths or trails, I feel like people will it be like on your left or, you know, that people aren't supposed to be like four across or whatever. But again, that's just not official. And if you're running solo, those are more annoyances when people aren't following them than something that you have to worry about.

Speaker: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Most of the time, like today when I was running, people would get out of my way and sometimes look at me and i in a way that I felt was like, was like, do I look like I'm dying? I can't tell, but do they look sympathetic?

Speaker: No. Or maybe impressed. Yes. Impressed. Yes. They're just amazed. Yeah. She's out here on a Sunday. yeah Celebrating Jesus risen from the dead by running. By remembering that I have legs and I'm alive and lungs and that eggs have a lot of protein.

Speaker: Oh, that's true. oh So that's how I'm doing. Cool. So we're doing all right. And we both have sleeping dogs. Well, I don't know if Janine is sleeping, but laying dogs near us. She's lightly snoring right now. Oh, um so sweet.

Speaker: Yeah. And she's got her little brown nose from digging. Like she likes to bury her her bones and then we're like bully stick and then like get it out and then bury it somewhere else. Yes.

Speaker: I recently took out one of my big pots. The plant that it was in it wasn't doing well in this space. It just doesn't get enough light. And so I recently repotted it and moved it and then gave that pot to my sister to use upstairs and whatever. And so he was like, but that's one of my main hiding spots. So the other day I'm watering a plant and there are four bones in it. The only place that he can hide in inside the house. Oh, boy. That's why this plant is not doing very well.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: and dug up But I do wonder, like, I love that they do that. And I wonder also why sometimes. Is it end of days kind of stuff like, oh, well, I don't need this right now, but I might be hungry later. Or is it like, i'll I'll let it be buried here. So some of the decomposing happens and then it's easier for me to chew later. i don't know.

Speaker: I have no idea. i was looking up though, because sometimes she'll, if we give her a bully stick, she will go outside and then come back in with it still in her mouth and then like look around and then, and then go back outside. And she'll do this like four more times until she finally decides like where to be with it.

Speaker: And i read that it, If it's like a high value item, you know, which a ballistic is, then they're like, okay, this is very important. What am I going to do with it? Where am to be? I got to be somewhere safe. Like nobody can get it. And so they get a little bit anxious. That's pretty cute.

Speaker: Yeah, it's pretty cute. And then I guess. mean, anxiety is not cute, but yeah. Anxiety because they're like, well, I have something really valuable. That's pretty cute. Yeah.

Speaker: And I imagine the the burying is maybe related to that. Like, okay, this is so important. got to save it for later. Yeah. Which is impressive that they will save it. like Because so often I'm like, no, I want you to eat this right now because I want it to distract you. like I want it to take up your energy and attention right now.

Speaker: yeah But you've just gone and buried it. so ah One time gave her a bone or bully stick and she had it. And then she had another old one and she like, I just hear this like bunch of noise in the other room. And it's just her trying to pick up the other bully stick while the original bully stick is still in her mouth.

Speaker: you Like this is like when you go to the grocery store and you don't want to go make two trips from the car. She's like, nope, I'm bringing both of these out.

Speaker: Yeah, and she did it. She did it. I have picture. I'll have to post the picture. Yes, yes, yes. I love that when there are dogs that are so ball obsessed at the dog park and they have a ball in their mouth, but then they see like another ball go by for, you know, a different dog. And they're like, Oh, I want that one too. And they're like trying to get it in their mouth, but it's like, Oh no, your mouth is full with a ball. But they're like, Ooh, what can I do? I got to figure out way.

Speaker: That's very relatable. Yes. Wanting something you already have, but just you want it. So our dear Becca, she had a lot of interests.

Speaker: Yes. And I had told you that i it briefly occurred to me when we were talking to her that we should do like a speed dating interests thing.

Speaker: And maybe we should, you know, at some point with her. What a great idea. Just like you get five minutes to tell us, like sell us on the interest. And then we go to the next interest.

Speaker: Janine is currently is sleeping with just like her tongue out just a tiny little bit. Just like. She's so she's a cute. Let me and take a picture.

Speaker: Yes, please. Layla got Bosco a bunny costume for his birthday. So his birthday was like back in March 11th or something like that. And there was a day that I was out doing errands and they're like, Oh, hey, where are you? And I was like, Oh, you know, here. And they're like, Okay, well, let us know when you're coming home. And I'm like, Okay. They're like, the Easter bunny left something for you. and I was like, Oh, really? and lela was like, Yeah, and we saw the Easter bunny. It has two tails. And I was like, Oh, my gosh, that's so cool. I'm like, Are they both like, side by side? Are they both like the cottony kind of tails? And she's like, I don't know. Well, I do know because I saw it, but I can't tell you it's a surprise.

Speaker: So I walk in the door and they all come down from upstairs. Like, like they saw that I was home. And so as I'm walking in the door, they're all there. And Bosco is in his Easter bunny costume. So he's got his little cotton tail, but then his tail sticking out too. It was so cute. Oh I assume you have pictures.

Speaker: Yeah. So yesterday, the day before Easter, it was cold here. And so I put him in it and we took him on a walk. So he was a little Easter bunny walking around. Oh my God. We'll do a dog we'll do a dog post on the socials. so yes Janine with her two bully sticks, her tongue sticking out, and Bosco as a bunny.

Speaker: Oh, and then um I still do need to post. I told you about this, but I went to the the No Kings protest recently with Margot, who talked to us about protest.

Speaker: Yes. And she wore a giraffe onesie. yeah um Even though it was quite warm out which good for her, it was pretty amazing that she wore it. She she did pull up the the legs for a bit, had the hood down for part of it, but she had it on like the whole time.

Speaker: It was pretty amazing. That is really impressive. And such a great, like when you said, sent me that text, the screenshot of your text, like, oh, I'll be wearing the giraffe onesie. It's like, okay, hopefully you can find her. But what is the meaning of the giraffe?

Speaker: It's just fun. i don't i don't think there's any meaning. we also saw somebody who was wearing, ah well, this one did have meaning, but this guy was wearing like a full Santa Claus outfit and had like a giant sign that was like,

Speaker: on the naughty list pedos liars cheats you know yeah and it was a huge sign so he had to be warm there was somebody else who was wearing one of those like blow up outfits yes was maybe an octopus so a lot of things that just didn't maybe necessarily have meaning but were just fun Yes, which I so appreciate. Yeah, there were a couple of those blow-ups characters too.

Speaker: um One being SpongeBob's friend, Patrick, the the starfish. His name is Patrick. I think so. i haven't watched him a very long time. I forgot. that's It's funny because I don't know that I've ever watched a single episode. So I'm like, I don't even know how I know these things. Yeah, I believe so.

Speaker: It was, yeah, it was really, we, I went as well. And my sister came with me on this one and that was really fun. And it was on my birthday. And so I just kept being like, everybody's out celebrating across the country for my birthday. Yay. like We're happy. It's Patty's birthday and. Fight for democracy. Yes. the Yes. We like Patty better than our government. Yeah.

Speaker: One of the... Duh. That's the truth no matter what. No. um But one of my favorite signs that we saw is the wrong Amazon is burning. The wrong ice is melting. Good one, right?

Speaker: Yes. That was a good one. I liked one that I saw that was just... It just said, why is he still in office, basically? Or like, was like, why is is Trump still in office? I'm like, that's, that's a good question.

Speaker: That's just basic. Like, you make us think. How did it go with our homework? Okay, well, we should recap what our homework was. So it was money saving hacks and nesting.

Speaker: First time we've had two interests. And it was very fun because they they kind of went together for all of us. I think it felt like they did. So i did, i had mentioned that I had been meaning to and trying to look at couponing at my grocery store because it does feel like I'm just leaving money on the table. It's so silly not to...

Speaker: look at coupons. So I downloaded the Schnucks app and found out that I put my phone number in wrong. So when I was going to the self-checkout, I was putting in my phone number and it I didn't know that it wasn't taking. So finally I went to an actual cashier and she was like, that is this your phone number? I was like, yeah. And then I look in the app and I'm like, oh, but the number I put in the app is not my phone number. So Once I corrected that, I did save some. I still haven't been able to spend enough time at the grocery store. Like I go through the app each week and clip the digital coupons, but then I haven't done a good enough job yet of connecting that to the grocery store visits. Yeah.

Speaker: where I'll say, oh, I know that I have a coupon for this, which size is it or which brand is it? So that's part of it. I've had a couple of lucky ones where it's like, oh, yeah, I saved 50 cents there or a dollar there. But that was something that I was hoping to do and an easy win. How about you? Well, I decided that, like okay, so I have this American Express card and they have all these offers and I was never really looking at them.

Speaker: So I started looking at them and i realized that I could use a bunch. I needed some... compression leggings and there was like a lululemon thing where if you spend a certain amount they would give you like 25 back so i went online and the leggings that i wanted were on sale also so i got leggings on sale and then got money back plus my 24 25 year college reunion is coming up

Speaker: soon and the the stuff that we were looking at travel wise they also had money back for using like Expedia or something that I would have used anyway so I got money back for that And then one thing that's annoying is that there were two other offers that were things that I use, but and there were like yearly subscriptions that renewed right before i realized I could use them. But that would have been great too. So got to keep on top of those.

Speaker: because yeah I feel like the key to those is is not spending on something you wouldn't have bought anyway, because then you're right you're not saving money. But if it's something that you knew you needed and you're planning on using, just like check to see if they've they've got money back.

Speaker: Yes. Yeah. Yeah, so that that was really nice because I think that all the credit cards I have right now are free, like no annual fees. So I imagine if there's ones with annual fees, you can get a lot be like even better rewards.

Speaker: Yeah, i I hung out with Chris um over March Madness. And so I was talking to him about because my one credit card that has a fee is Southwest. And now that they've changed that you get assigned seats, I'm like, i it's lost the allure for me. It also isn't, I'm not using it nearly as much traveling anymore.

Speaker: So I feel like I'm going to let that one go. But I was saying that I do want to become regular or dedicated to a airline so that hopefully I can build up the miles and have some perks. But the hard thing is nobody's hubbed out of St. Louis. And he was mentioning because his mom used to work for United. And so he has kind of grandfathered in benefits through that.

Speaker: But he said that he has a United card that's really good and that it doesn't take much to get perks through United, like, just from traveling. Like, you don't have a tra have to travel every week in order to become – Whatever it is. So that was one that I was going to look into to, yeah, see, can I get something that doesn't have an annual fee, but still provides some decent perks?

Speaker: I have a United card that's free and it's like one mile per dollar that you spend. But i will say I used to have the one that did have an annual fee. I mean, back then it was maybe $60. So it might be more now, but that one you get, know,

Speaker: two miles per every dollar you spend. So it was much better. um so and it, that, that was a long time ago because it was maybe right out of college or not that long out of college. And I went to visit my friend in St.

Speaker: Lucia through, i think like Barbados, but I did have to take like three flights. so To get a free, to get a free, but that was ah still great.

Speaker: Yeah. I did like, did they lose my luggage? Not sure.

Speaker: But hey, they might've given you one of those like free travel totes of toiletry as well. While it was lost. Okay. I think that one, I did have my luggage. That's right.

Speaker: When I went to Watermill, they definitely took like a week to give me my luggage. Oh, my God. oh So for the Amex, is that something that they change their offers like on a monthly basis? Do you think or how how often do you think you'll go and kind of check to see what those offers are?

Speaker: Um, somewhat regularly because they, they, they had expiration dates on the offer. So I don't know how often they're, they're changing them. It seems like each one is different. Some of them seem to be there a lot of the time.

Speaker: So, yeah, I'll probably check it somewhat regularly just to see what there And that's something else where I'm like, so do I need to create a calendar for this? Do I need to create a reminder for this? You know, thinking about the things that like are annual subscriptions. Like I subscribed to Peacock and I just saw something that was like – You can get a deal. And I'm like, oh, but it went through already. You know, like so I'm like, how do I need to do I need to like have a reminder set of like these all renew at this time. So check it at that time because I just don't I won't remember otherwise. But that feels overwhelming.

Speaker: Right. Like that is the thing about the money saving stuff is that it does take time and energy and especially time. And I think that you have to be willing to put in the effort and then maybe like once you get started, it's it's more in the beginning and then you start saving money over time with less effort.

Speaker: But I think... if you don't put that, that effort in at first to figure out like, what exactly am I spending money on right now? And yeah what, like, yeah, what are those dates? And, and then even things like, like, you know, figuring out that you put in the wrong phone number, takes some like it didn't tell you when you put entered your phone number when you're shopping that like, oh, this is not in here. We, or we don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker: No. And then, yeah, it's just another one of those where it's like, oh my gosh, another password and another thing to have to check, which is all, it's it's not hard. It's like you said, it's time consuming and it takes energy of your brain.

Speaker: Yeah. But at the same time, I probably saved, don't know, look this up, how much I saved with the American Express, even just doing those two things. I mean, I think I got like, okay, $25 back for the Lululemon thing. And then, and also I love their leggings so much. And then $47.51 back for the travel reservation.

Speaker: Whoa. so Yeah. I mean, that's a lot already. Yeah, for nothing. Like you didn't have to pay anything for that. Yeah, stuff was going do anyway. worth it Yeah.

Speaker: Except that the leggings, you know, I probably would have gotten them from like Costco or something otherwise, but they wouldn't have been as good either. Right. It's not what you wanted. So then what? You have to buy two of those or...

Speaker: have one and it's not really doing the trick. So like you said, if it's something that you actually want and you were going to purchase anyways, this is so beneficial.

Speaker: Yeah. So that, that was great. That I did almost without, it wasn't like when I was doing it, I was even thinking like, oh, this is my homework. It was more just naturally. I was like, oh yeah,

Speaker: at this and then later i was like oh yeah that's homework I'm doing two things at once I took the quiz for a space doula thank you for sharing sending that link ahead of time so that we could take that and I loved that at the start of it because whenever I take quizzes I feel very like oh but I don't know how what's the right answer. and like So she did a great job up front saying this is about how you are right now. Things change. You can always come back and take it again. You might be kind of drawn or pulled between two potential answers, go with the one that's pulling you more. Usually first answer is the true answer. so

Speaker: that all felt really good. I liked the way that the – Questions were worded, too. I wish I could remember any of them, but the first question just, like, set the tone. I was like, oh, this is this is wonderful. um So the results that I got were inner knowledge and knowledge. So I was like, I'm not really sure what the difference between those are.

Speaker: And that felt spot on. It's like, I don't really know what I want my space to look like. I don't really know what I want to do with my life. I don't really have like intuition what I'm so indecisive. I kind of rely on other people to dictate how my time is spent and.

Speaker: weigh in on decisions that I'm going to make, um lack of motivation. So that was pretty cool. And the quadrant that it is, or what's the word? Let me if can find it.

Speaker: got let me see if i can find bla Bagua map. Bagua. Good job. The Bagua that it is for me is the front left.

Speaker: Okay. Which is basically my front door of my house. And so she says in the video after you take the survey and give your email address and stuff. So in the video then, it was like, go stand there.

Speaker: And what is the word, one or two adjectives, no, yeah, adjectives that you would use currently to describe that space. And then what is a word or two that you want to feel about that part of your life as and to kind of think about like how that can relate to the space.

Speaker: And it feels kind of like a disappointment because I'm like, that's such a small part of my house and there's not really a ton I can do there. But i did realize that it feels a little confused right now. was like,

Speaker: i was like maybe I can just make this much more intentional and feel comfortable because it is the first entrance into the house. And it's not, you're you're in my living room. It's not like, oh, there's a vestibule or a foyer or even a hall. so So it opens directly into the home. So i do want it to feel like, ah, more than, hmm.

Speaker: So thinking about that. And as I was talking to Judy about this a little bit, and and I had mentioned also just that I don't feel super comfortable in my space and like don't really know how to adjust it Like I can't figure out what what's off about it. And so what would be the pieces that would make it feel better?

Speaker: She was saying, you know, well, I wonder, she had a couple of ideas and she's like, you know, I'm not a professional though. As I told her every time I've moved somewhere that she has helped me move and unpack, it's like, she has settled my space, you know, like, so she does have a sense of, she's a very good nester as well. So she's like, think if I have this great dining room table that's been in our family I think it was like my great grandparents and it's beautiful and it's round. And it was at our apartment on California. i don't know if you recall it, but it's like a big round table and I love it. I love it. But she's like, it's just not right for the space.

Speaker: And she's like, I think if you replaced that with a different dining room table and then like a... bank banquette or whatever um in the dining room, like simplify it, that would be a big improvement. And then she was saying, you know, in your kitchen, it would be really good if we finally, I currently just have somebody's discarded vanity without a top on it that I'm using for some storage. And so I just put on like two different cutting boards that cover it. And it's like just very slapdash. And she's like, I think if we actually...

Speaker: got you a piece there that worked the way that you intended. And that could be nice. And, you know, I was like, well, and maybe while her husband has some time between jobs, I'm like, maybe he could put the treads, no, the thresholds down because they did the flooring in my place, which is very lovely. But the baseboards never went back up and thresholds never went in, you know, things like that, that just feel unfinished.

Speaker: that potentially, you know, pay him for his time to to do that. So it's fun to think about and it feels very like it always is where here are ideas and thoughts and it will go nowhere.

Speaker: So, because I've looked for, I've looked and I spent a lot of time also looking at temporary temporary wallpaper, removable wallpaper. um And I've spent time previously looking at it and then I just get overwhelmed you know, the whole decision paralysis. Like I just, I'm like, oh my God, I don't even know where to begin. Or if I make this decision, does that tie into whatever might work in another space? And I just, I don't have, I don't have the knowledge. I don't know where to go. And so I feel like because I'm relying on other people who don't have time, that then I just am like, nothing's ever going to, ever going to happen. So then I'm like, i should just buy a new house.

Speaker: and Yeah, totally. yeah That's a What if we did give ourselves an assignment that's like, next time you have to have bought the things and we have to have done the things that we are thinking about.

Speaker: my God. Your eyes just got wide. Like you were like, oh. I'm like, I'll do it, but it's all going to be wrong. Maybe, maybe that's what needs to happen. It needs to all be wrong so that you can As long as I can return the things. Yes. You know, and, and that is, that is, that was part of it, right. That she said doing tasks with other people.

Speaker: And, and as Judy was saying all of these things, you know, like, and this could be, and I'm like, maybe it's like, I need to create like a ah punch list, you know, of what are those big items and then figure out what needs to be looked at in conjunction.

Speaker: If I get a, dining room table i should take into account what the it's not a banquette what is it called like a hutch were you a hutch yeah yeah so something like that it is a thing Anywho, one of those things, um like what how those look together. And I have some great chairs that we salvaged from the alley and they're wonderful, but like, are they right? You know? So, i and I have like this other piece of furniture that's also from, you know, ancestors and it's beautiful and I love it.

Speaker: Is it right? So i feel like I'm just kind of taking things from people And maybe they're not right for my space or right for me or with each other. i don't know. But where is the space not right for you?

Speaker: Right. Is that why you're thinking like buying just a whole new place? I don't know. yeah I've never – I love that we live upstairs, downstairs from each other and that like every once in a while I'll hear the door open and it's Emilio. You know, like I love that. I love that's that. But yeah, there's something about the space itself that I'm like, I don't know. That's just – isn't right like i don't know and i don't know what it is yeah like maybe maybe you're like well am i gonna put all this effort in if it's not right yeah because in previous spaces like do you feel like you made them your own

Speaker: Yeah, or let somebody else make them my own. I've never been good at it, but yeah, like that they've felt good. And I think that's part of when when we bought this, it was meant to be like an investment property, I say in quotes, because we weren't looking to actually make money on it, but just that it could be a place where, you know, Judy and her family could live at a very reasonable rate, but like a house that would be nice for them to be in. And then we could have tenants that could help pay the other half of it. So so you don't look at buying in the same way because, a I never thought I would live here. And, B, it felt like it would be kind of more of a temporary, like, is this good enough? Sure.

Speaker: So just interesting. Like, I remember talking to Karen about that when she was buying. And I was like, oh, I can't even help you with that because I was so i was so not looking at it in the same way as you are as somebody who's going to live in this space you know and and wants to wants to make sure it's right for them.

Speaker: It seems like that the the conversation about the like front entryway kind of then became about like the whole place for you and that the whole place is maybe feeling like a hodgepodge of, of things. Yeah. Um,

Speaker: But like, what about just focusing on the entryway? like Right. Going back to it. and I think that's, I think that is, and it's also really helpful to make it into this very small, just focus there.

Speaker: Because I'm like, okay, I can, there're that's where my shoes are. And, you know, Take out whatever shoes aren't going to be used for this season or at all. And also make it so if you're going to keep shoes there, it's intentional and it's functional and pleasing.

Speaker: And then there's this pile of crap, you know, that that was temporarily put there. Address that. So, yes, I think that's a good...

Speaker: Obviously, I didn't do any of that yet, but um but... We can set a goal for ourselves to do these things, I think. Yes. That could be good.

Speaker: Today, I was talking with my nieces and nephew, and they all just like got new rooms because... essentially because they like turned this like storage closet in the basement into a room. So now each of them can have a room instead like sharing.

Speaker: Wow. That's a big deal. Yeah. yeah um So we were asking them like on a scale of one to 10, how much they like the rooms. And the two girls said nine out of 10.

Speaker: The nephew said, I think he said like five out of 10, but before it had been a four out of 10. So, oh um, yeah yeah. And then, but then, so it went up for all of them, but then they asked me and Adam how we like our room.

Speaker: And I said, 6.5 out of 10, mainly because there's a bathroom and I like that. And Adam said seven out of 10. we have some work to do in that area, I think. And then I was thinking like, Oh, the,

Speaker: the temporary wallpaper could be something to add a little. Cause right now it's just like a big rectangle that we sleep in and where I have a big pile of clothes, but like other than that, it's just nothing special about it.

Speaker: Yeah. To really like warm it up or add some visual interest or something like to just do a wall or two walls or whatever with the wallpaper.

Speaker: Yeah, same with my office too. like I really like that idea, but I agree that there's so many options yeah like looking at them that at some point i'm just going to have to give myself a deadline. like You can look for 15 minutes and then you have to pick one.

Speaker: so Oh, God. Well, and that's the thing. Like I was showing my sister even just some of the ones that I had seen recently that I was being drawn to. And she's like, oh, I love these. And she's like, you know, two minutes later, she's like, what if you did something that's geometric with like some gold lines? And I was like, how did you what? Where did that come from? Where in your brain were you able like i i just couldn't even visualize something like that. And i was like, OK, that gives me some direction.

Speaker: i do like the idea of something I could put up and take down if I need to. Yes. So, yeah. So the nesting. Okay. All right. So I had already done the the quiz, but...

Speaker: I think I did it a couple times to try to see if at different points, like a little little while later, if it gave me anything different. But every time it was like the money section of the house, you need to address the money section.

Speaker: So i think I need to do a little more with that, but also the career section since I'm still like sending queries to agents um I need to focus on that a little more like this past week it it was horrible in there ah the fridge smells like something something wet so we need to attend to that and then and then it would be pretty amazing if then I got like a call or like an email that was like we want to meet with you um So that is motivating for me to go and clean this kitchen.

Speaker: Yes, that that's like sometimes so necessary to have the smell. It's kind of like when the pain gets so bad that you finally are like, oh, wait, maybe I need to you know, get a new mattress or whatever. That's yeah. Okay. I like that idea. Clean the fridge.

Speaker: Right. I don't even want to open the fridge. And that is, oh that's very sad. That's very sad. Especially with a heavy carb week ahead of you. Like you need to be in there. Not, those are all shelf stable things, but like the sauce for your pasta, the cream cheese for your bagel. Come on. Yeah. Milk that I'm going to put in coffee and that's got carbs. Yeah.

Speaker: the Gatorade whenever I get it. You're going to want to put it in there so it's yeah chilled. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so that's that's definitely motivating. And I just like i like the magical thinking of it, you know, that something you do something simple like that and then you could get some sort of space or ah like enlightenment in another in an area of your life, even though yes like who knows the like what's actually happening there.

Speaker: Right. And I, I, cause I totally already believe because I've experienced that my space is, has a huge impact on my mood, my mental clarity, my everything. So I know that that is true.

Speaker: And so then to just think about it as like, oh, but then there's also just a quadrant where it aligns to different parts of your life is very cool. And like you said, who knows how it works, if it works, whatever.

Speaker: i like it. I don't care. i like it. Wait, so it's the the front right, like when you're looking at that? No, like when you're, so if, yeah.

Speaker: So it's right behind me. Okay. And that is the inner knowledge part. Yeah. And it is interesting. I have a, currently the only piece of artwork that I have hanging there is something that was from Target when I still went there. So when I was still living in Oak Park and it's a floral print and it says, be kind.

Speaker: And I'm like, Maybe that's a problem, too, because I'm like, just be kind. Don't think about what you want or what you need. Be kind. you might need to move that to a different quadrant.

Speaker: Yeah. And then put something in there and that says something that resonates with you. Just do it. like And then in parentheses, not the thing that they're telling you to do, the thing that you want to do. yeah good point. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, I have to get really specific about this. um It's like they did ah My parents were here and so they did an Easter egg hunt for the kids and then the kids were so cute. And Layla did... ah clues in all of the eggs and then like put them around the house and so we had to find them and then it was a scavenger hunt to find and it was awesome and then Emilio wanted to do one and he's like okay well the prize is my Easter candy you don't get to win the prize but you're looking for it but you don't get to you don't get to win it and I was like okay I got it like make it very clear you are not having my candy do not eat it Yeah.

Speaker: So, and he's just learning, you know, to read and write. And so he wrote a clue and I was so proud of him. He's like, it's in a basket. And he's like, oh, I forgot to mention like an open basket. And I was like, okay.

Speaker: And then he took it back. He's like, wait, let me add something else. And he was like, hallway. and I was like, okay. You know, so it's like, you have to be very specific about what you write and he's just how you do these things. So, cause you want it to be right, whatever manifests. Yeah. It's funny. That's reminding me.

Speaker: My nephew last weekend, we were just like at a brewery or something with the family. And he was like writing these little on these little pieces of paper, basically like these questions. like Do you like pasta? And then like it would say he would send it around and have everybody do like a checkmark or an X or a checkmark with an X on it. If it's a maybe. Yeah.

Speaker: Oh, I like all the variety. Wait, and then how did he know whose was who? like Or it didn't matter. Well, we could just say, but it was more like, yeah, if i like you would go through and then say. But the best was, okay, one um one of them, he wrote, do you like Trump?

Speaker: ah we were not really expecting that because he had not like talked much about trunk trump but then my brother said that like sometimes he would just like come up to him and say like which do you like more trump or cigarettes and my brother does not so yeah it's like duh it's cigarettes

Speaker: I love his curiosity that he's like pulling the group, like not just like, what do I care about? What do I like? It's like, I want to know what other people think about this. I'm learning about my family. I'm like crowdsourcing information. this is so cool. i love us He did have some good questions. One of them was, do you like cigarettes?

Speaker: And the people in the group who, who like cigarettes were like, ah Should I say it? I like them. I like them. I don't smoke them. And you shouldn't either. In theory only.

Speaker: yeah Not in practice. yeah Oh, that's so funny. This is like his way of finding getting dirt to like, you have to be honest to a child. He has like a very good memory. And then anything that you tell him, he immediately then tells his teacher. So One time he was, he was asking me about basically like about the house. And i was like, well, you know, Adam technically bought the house because like, you know, i like financially just started like business and like blah, blah, and all this stuff. At some point we'll probably like put the, uh, my name on the title. And then he went and told his teacher, like the entire story of my financial situation, which I just, I guess I just said it on the podcast, but.

Speaker: But that he could remember even like terms that are not familiar to him, like title and like starting a business.

Speaker: I know. Like, how does he, he's like, ru her he's like, Adam owns a house. And I'm like, okay, great.

Speaker: So you really gotta be careful what you tell him. And then how did that get back to you guys? Like, did the teacher tell Charlie? The teacher tells, yeah, like, Charlie and Steph, she'll just, I guess this is this was last year, but she would be like, oh, I heard this. Writing times in your sister's life, huh?

Speaker: When's she getting married? No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, two weeks from never. It's like, oh, great, somebody else who's asking me about my life choices. Yeah.

Speaker: ah So anything else on the homework front?

Speaker: Oh, yes. one One other thing was that when we gave our accounts of, or when Adam and I rated our satisfaction with our bedroom as 6.5 or 7, my nieces and nephew did offer to help us decorate it. So that could be my assignment.

Speaker: Actually, that would be a very good assignment for me. Like, art i guess this would be like the first time we have an assignment after an assignment, like where we actually do the things that we that we have planned on to do.

Speaker: um And I would just... pick up the pile of clothes that lives next to my bed and put stuff up on the walls, maybe get some actual, you know, peel off wallpaper put on it.

Speaker: You could put the TV up. I know you're not really supposed to, but we're gonna, cause I need a place to watch Lauren order criminal intent where Adam can't hear it. Cause he, he gets very upset by Yeah.

Speaker: Not because of Vincent D'Onofrio, but because of the content of the show. I love like how many episodes in a row can we have him mentioned? let's see i I think it'll go on as long as I'm watching the show and I'm still watching it. So like he's on the forefront of my mind a lot. yeah I was thinking about him earlier today. He's constantly on mind.

Speaker: Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Can I make a suggestion, though, that you also look into like what would be a better solution, like a practical solution for those clothes? Because if the clothes always end up on the floor, just saying like, oh, no, I'll put them away. It's like, well that's not realistic. Is there a hamper or a what would be a solution that would actually be practical that you might do?

Speaker: Okay, but I think I need help with this because the problem is the reason a lot of times they go on the floor is because I've worn them like once and then right I will want to wear them again. so they're not quite clean enough to that limbo. Yeah, so I need an in-between space because I do have a hamper, but it's like they're... That's dirty.

Speaker: Yeah, although sometimes I put the the clean-ish clothes on the top of the hamper. Right. But so is there a secondary hamper or does that feel bad to have all the in-between clothes in there? Like, are they making each other dirtier or does it feel bad purgatory clothes in with the clean clothes? Because it's like, no, no, no. Like putting them back because you're like, you're not really clean. So you can't go in clean.

Speaker: They could definitely go back. So they could definitely go back. I think then it must be when I'm too tired – yeah or See, Adam goes to sleep before me.

Speaker: And very often when I go to sleep, I have to be very quiet. Yes. And then I just dump the clothes on. But if i would change earlier, see, you're right. Like, like, think about the processes that you have, because there's something that needs to be changed if that's happening all the time.

Speaker: But that's not necessarily possible to change. Oh, sure. go get to Change earlier. get to better. Like, that might not be realistic. But yeah, is there just even just a second hamper that they all go in there?

Speaker: They're not dirty, but just so that it it feels different, you know, and is that in your bathroom or in your office so that it's not even where Adam is already sleeping or something? I don't know what that is, but. I think I could get get changed earlier.

Speaker: get Get ready for bed earlier, even if I'm not going to bed. and then put the clothes where they need to be i would just need to like clean it all so that I could start with a clean slate and then yeah it's easier to keep it up when it's when it's clean to start with all at like the same level yeah yeah once you once you start putting things on the floor it's just that's the end of the line that's

Speaker: there's There's no more. there's Everything's going on the floor. And I know that very well. Like I'll be like, oh, well, I'll probably want to wear these pants again tomorrow. And so I just like put them next to my bed. I'm like, why? So I too need but this solution.

Speaker: This does go with like the style stuff too, because even though I've tried to get rid of some clothes that I don't really wear, i think there's more work to be done there so that I could pare it down even more.

Speaker: Yes. yes Okay. Yes. Yeah.

Speaker: Like an actual deadline for doing these things. Or like a check-in. Yes. And probably like show some results. So I think what I'll do is I'm going to take a before picture, a.k.a. a now picture of my front left corner of the house.

Speaker: Okay. And then I'm going to spend some time first Shush. First, figuring out what the word is that I – how I want to feel about that part of my life, the knowledge, inner knowledge part, um because that's where I'm kind of just finding some resistance there, and then work on transforming that space. Okay.

Speaker: And I – I don't think I should take a before picture. Well, I'll take it, but I'm not posting it because it's. Oh, yeah, you don't have to. to Okay. Well, we'll see. We'll see. This is what's staying from the refrigerator.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: I'm going to work on, see yeah, because then it's like the kitchen, but then also the bedroom. I know I'm going work on the kitchen, so I'm going to work on the bedroom. and Okay.

Speaker: it's It's too embarrassing to take a before picture of there because I said a pile of clothes. There's more than one pile. There's more than one pile.

Speaker: And do you think you'll let your nieces and nephew help you?

Speaker: Yes, i I will. Yes. Although I'm thinking like if we have a bunch of children's drawings up on the walls in the bedroom, I don't know that that's like the vibe we want to go for. But they might that might not be what they have in mind. Right.

Speaker: You know, so maybe we'll just. maybe could give like an option of like, hey, here's some of the stuff that I want to use to decorate in here and then see how they like put things together.

Speaker: o yeah. Or maybe i can be like, I like all of these different wallpaper options. Which ones do you think are the best? Love that. Help me pare it down. Yes. Yeah.

Speaker: I recently asked Layla to create a vignette and I don't know that she knew what that meant, which is fine, but she also knows a ton about art. So I was like, oh yeah, maybe she knows that. i was like, on my dresser, I got a new dresser and I wanted to make sure that I wasn't just going to pile it with crap. And so i was like, can you just make like a small like vignette with anything found in my apartment? And it was so lovely and so well done.

Speaker: and after a couple weeks I was like this isn't me so I have to like undo it you know which was fine but it was really sweet to see what she did because she's she's a very good nester she like she does that constantly she's always making really nice spaces and for herself for others like it's so i was like oh let's let's use our resource available resources yeah

Speaker: Pretty amazing. Do you have a a picture of that? The vignette? I wonder if I do. I should take a i should take a look back yeah before I took it all apart.

Speaker: It was very cute. She used a quilt that my aunt made to place it down almost as like a cloth a runner and added some pussy willow that I have in a vase. so It was very cute. Yeah.

Speaker: Okay, so then what's our deadline? I know.

Speaker: Oh, you know what we should do? That other part of the assignment that we didn't really do where we should just meet up online for like an hour and then both do the thing at the same time.

Speaker: Yeah. so Is that what we should do? Like you do the bedroom and I do my front area? Okay. At least like the main parts. And then, you know, any sort of things that we need other people's help with, we can just follow up with that after or before. But like any bulk of the work, like just at the same time. And then even like the...

Speaker: Picking of the items. Wallpaper and furniture. and I love that. All right. Should we talk about accessibility?

Speaker: Yes, let's. Okay. So, very accessible. Yes. Yeah. i I think... Oh, just like the...

Speaker: money, the money saving hacks are clearly like financially accessible. I would say time-wise, that like we were saying, it takes, it takes time. it takes energy. Not everybody's going to have those things. Not everybody's going to make the decision that it's worth it to them to do some of those things. But, oh we didn't talk about trusted house sitter either.

Speaker: I know. And I didn't even look into it. And that was the thing that my mom was like, that's so interesting. I'm like, it really is. I could never use it because I can't have, like, I wouldn't have people stay at my house.

Speaker: Although I guess I could just, it could be a one way thing, but um I think it's so cool. Yeah, i looked at it, i started looking at it because we're going to go to a wedding in like the Seattle area over the summer. and myus And was already seeing some things that were right around that same time that could be good, but you kind of have to go with the time span that they have. So I think it would be good if you knew you wanted to go somewhere and your dates were pretty open.

Speaker: it seems like it could be a great option. Because, I mean, these were places that looked really nice in Seattle where it's expensive. Yeah.

Speaker: And beautiful pets. So definitely it seems like a good option that I want to use in the future. Even if it's just like, okay, I need to do some kind of vacation. Like what's out there?

Speaker: Right. Like if you wanted to do a writing week again, you could do this for that, where it' where there is more flexibility, where you can be kind of fluid with when and and even where. Yeah.

Speaker: And I mean, I guess, yeah, we could do that other way around with somebody coming to stay with Janine. don't really know who's like, i want to stay in Westminster, Colorado, but it's near enough to the mountains. It's near enough to Denver, Boulder, and Janine Schultz.

Speaker: she might like it she she will not go on a walk with that person but otherwise you know she'll be fine she she barely goes on a walk with adam she only waits for me to take her ah but yeah it seems like a great great option Well, and it's funny because when I was talking, my mom was like, oh, this is so cool. And tell your sister about it. So I was telling her and she's like, that's how it should be. Like, hey, you need this thing. And I have this, you know, like I have this problem. You have this solution.

Speaker: Let's just trade for it. Not like... Because I'm like, you know, that's essentially what on Rover people charge you still. Like, I will stay in your space and watch your dog, but you have to pay me for it. Whereas this spins it as, hey, you get to stay in my space for free.

Speaker: You only have to watch my dog. You know, like, so it is just an interesting difference of looking at it of let's just exchange services and One of the ones I looked at though was like, okay, this dog does not like to be alone, but is very happy to be in like your purse, wherever you go.

Speaker: i

Speaker: Oh my God. You're going to have one of those backpacks where like, it's, uh, you know, like a globe bubble. Yeah. I saw a cat in one of those at a bar once.

Speaker: Oh my God. Chris and I saw one of those when we were walking. just a couple weeks ago. And I was like, is that a dog? And he was like, no. And I was like, I think it is. He's like not alive though. Like, I think it's like a stuffed animal or something. And then it moved and he was like, Oh my God, that freaked me out. And I don't like it. Like he just didn't like the leaves. Like, I don't think it's happy in there. And I was like, I don't know, but it it's, I don't know.

Speaker: ah very it was very scrunched and, um, and Yeah, this dog apparently cares so much about being with somebody over being alone that that would be fine with it.

Speaker: So I guess you do probably run into some very specific kinds of situations with with dogs. Right. Which then makes it tricky to be like, oh, well, can I be at a all gone all day at a wedding if yeah there's this, depending on what the animal is or out and enjoying the city? Yeah. So you have to take all of those things into account as well.

Speaker: Yeah, but I mean, so like anything with flexibility, like if you if you've got that flexibility, it's really great. Like both of these places that I looked at so far, I think they have yards, a view, like a really nice interior of the home in an area that's expensive.

Speaker: brilliant like seattle's expensive like you're gonna spend money if you're staying anywhere and so yeah stay somewhere nice for free great such a great deal so yes that that too okay but in terms of accessibility yeah that doesn't cost anything um all of these things are potentially really great It is one of those things, though, like in order to save money, you have to have money in a way. So for some of these things, you have to have a credit card in order to get the deals on the credit card.

Speaker: But of course, there are other things like the grocery apps or coupons. Those are all free. So you can save on things.

Speaker: But it is true that yeah, you need money to make money or save money. lot times, like if I could just get like enough money to start a small startup company and then just sell it for like a couple million, maybe a billion dollars and then just throw that money into the stock market, like I'd be all set.

Speaker: Like once you have a certain amount of money It's just like, you just keep on making, you just put that into like a savings account that has like a three point something percent. Yeah.

Speaker: And then you're good. Yeah. Or by real estate and then that makes you money. And yeah. Yeah. But everybody else is like, can I save 50 cents on these beans, you know?

Speaker: right. So. Largely accessible. Nesting. You know, I will say nesting, even like from what we were talking about, sometimes you have more of like ah an affinity for it, more of like ah a talent or a skill for it. And then sometimes you don't. Yeah. So getting some help, finding stuff online, that's helpful because Yeah.

Speaker: Otherwise, I do not have that gene. I don't either. Yeah, i don't have the eye for it. So that's the part that feels not accessible. To be able to find things to make your space nice is pretty accessible. You can find things for free. You can trade things. You can find them at the you know Salvation Army, Goodwill, cheaply.

Speaker: But knowing what to do with that and how to make it feel good is definitely just ah a talent. um And I don't know if it's, maybe it's a talent like we learned with Jamie, drawing is something that you can get better at with practice. Maybe it is.

Speaker: I don't know. Maybe it is about, like, maybe it is about inner knowledge and really tapping into how do I feel In this space. Because sometimes we just kind of get used to feeling uncomfortable in a space.

Speaker: yeah That's just fine. Right. so Ignore it. Yeah. Like just really being more attentive to that. How does this thing make me feel? Do I have to do it this way? a lot of times for me, it's like...

Speaker: I'll have something in a completely ridiculous spot. And I will not have even thought that I could move it until one day I'm like, it doesn't have to be there. i

Speaker: put it there. I can move it. Yeah. Like the pile of laundry. Like you're right. It's like, why is it there? There has to be a reason that actually is going to be better to tackle the root of it than the consequence of it.

Speaker: Yes, but that's not always possible or realistic or without its and intense roots. Yeah, because like the real root is probably ADHD. So it's like an actual root.

Speaker: And in those cases, it's like, well, maybe I'll just save up enough money to get to get somebody to come once a week to clean my place. Oh, I know.

Speaker: Like, Lois, the likeliness of integration score, scale score. I'm going to say 90.

Speaker: It's pretty high. For both. Yeah. Yeah, because dusting is something that I have been wanting to do. Like, we're definitely going to be here for a while, so it's like, might as well do it. And then especially if it's going to impact areas of my life that I want impacted ah with the Bagua map, the feng shui. Yeah.

Speaker: That's going to motivate me. So I'll definitely do that. And then just the the credit card stuff and the trusted house sitter. I i think that those are easy enough to integrate and I already kind of have.

Speaker: So, yeah. What about you? i I agree with that score and on both fronts because it is something that I want to do. And so I feel like I have been trying and so I will continue to try with the nesting. And in terms of savings, I do want to continue to find ways to save.

Speaker: Yay! I was going to say another great interest, but another two more great interests. And we'll be checking back in with each other on some goals that we're setting and we'll provide updates in some way about that.

Speaker: yes we're gonna follow through we're gonna follow through the hell on on we're gonna that's that's not what meant to say you were like a kid who just learned how to like learned what swear words are but didn't yet know how to use them we're gonna shit the follow hell so damn damn we are gonna follow the hell through yeah And in the meantime, we will have really cute dogs on our socials. So please check those out at CanWeInterestYouIn on Instagram.

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