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Nostalgia & Popcorn Reading Panic: 90s School Days with @justme.rod
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In this episode, Miss Beth sits down with her best friend and popular influencer, Just Me Rod, for a hilarious and nostalgic trip down memory lane. Together, they reminisce about the joys of Book-It and those coveted Pizza Hut personal pan pizzas, the strange traditions of 90s elementary school life, and the quirky things we all did as kids (remember Trapper Keepers and scratch-and-sniff stickers?). They also dive into a more serious question: did anxiety start with round robin and popcorn reading? Tune in as they discuss the trauma of being called on to read aloud, their favorite childhood books, and even those weirdly mesmerizing book covers from school. This lighthearted chat will have you laughing, cringing, and nodding along to the shared experiences of growing up in the 90s.
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Shame in Learning: The Role of Reading Aloud
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One, it's weird that like we do this thing where it's like, you're going to read this passage or this chapter and it's just going to read out loud and you're going to call on random kids just to make sure that they're like listening and kind of have gotcha moments. which i That's exactly what it is. It's yeah it's gotcha. Gotcha. Saw you yawning. Yeah, exactly. It's like, oh, so you weren't following along. And then embarrassing kids in front of the class causing shame and associating shame with learning and then associating shame with reading.
Meet the Hosts: Miss Beth and Nostalgic Rod
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Hello, and welcome back to the play on words podcast. It's Miss Beth. And today our episode is very fun. It is with one of my best friends. You might know him if you hang out on the internet. His name is Rod. And he does a lot of nostalgic millennial content. So today, we are going to do a deep dive into some of our childhood favorites from elementary school.
Profile Roasting: TikTok Trends & Chat GPT
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So grab your Lisa Frank folder and maybe like some book covers to put on your textbooks and let's get ready to dive in. Welcome Rod. Oh my God. I'm so glad to finally be here. Finally. Finally. We've been talking about this forever. I ah i do. And I do want to tell you something. I'm blindsided you right now. ah Okay. Why? I do have another intro I want to give about you. Oh, okay.
00:01:28
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Are you familiar with the trend that's happening on the internet where you ask chat GPT to roast your profile? Oh my god. Yeah, I haven't even... Well, don't worry. I asked it to roast your profile. It's good because I took five minutes trying to figure out how and then I got overwhelmed and stopped. Oh, it's so easy. Here is your profile from ... This is a trend happening on TikTok. Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. I actually didn't even read it because I thought it would be a good surprise for
Childhood Irrational Fears Persist
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both of us. Okay. That's good. Okay. Rod, aka Just Me Rod, is basically the No! internet's official spokesperson for the millennial struggle. Shut up.
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I know. With over 1.6 million TikTok followers, he's the guy who can make corporate burnout and 90s nostalgia go viral in the same breath. Rod's content blends humor with deep reflections on mental health, often poking fun at the absurdities of work from home life and reminding us all why we miss the simple joys of Lisa Frank. Oh my God. I know.
00:02:26
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But let's be real. Does anyone really need a third TikTok about how exhausting zoom meetings are Rod? Where's it grabbing this from? I don't know. It says it searched two sites. Oh my God. I'm scared. and I did not look up mine. I'm glad that's all dug up. I know that was pretty nice. It says it searched Bing and famous birthdays.com. Oh good. Okay. No, it's just I'm on that website yeah But famous you can it's kind of like famous birthday is kind of like what every like I don't know but It's like why says like every like bigger. I don't want to say famous bigger tick-tocker like they just do it It's like Wikipedia they like make it for you and then you can go in and edit the stuff it says but I haven't even played around with it and And you know what, today on the internet I was talking about, I don't play around with stuff like that either because I don't really care what other people
The Fear of Bankruptcy and Childhood Influences
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are saying about me. Maybe they're saying my birthday is wrong. I'm probably on human's birthday. Well, thats that just seems like it leads to identity theft. You're right. Right. I don't know. Some loophole they went through. Do you know what? Did you have a lot of fear of identity theft from commercials when you were little?
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A fear of about a to fear identity theft, a fear of quicksand for no, have never once seen quicksand. still am afraid of it. I think that regular yeah sand becomes quicksand. And black widow spiders, which aren't even native to Illinois. So, but you are, but I am. who Okay. Quicksand. Yeah. You know, I also was afraid of going bankrupt. I feel like I saw a lot of commercials. I didn't have cable to do.
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Um, we didn't have cable until, um, which I was going to talk about book covers too, but we didn't have cable until like, probably like I was in like mid elementary school, junior high. Yes. Cause my dad was, my parents had me rather young. They were like 24 and
Paper Book Covers: A Nostalgic School Memory
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then my dad was still going was still going through medical school. So we didn't really live in like, we lived in like a one bedroom apartment, five of us or two bedroom apartment, five of us until I was in like first grade.
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Wow. Yeah. So no cable couldn't afford book covers either. So we had to make the paper ones. Do you remember that? I thought that that was the only way to make them. Right. Well, you could, you could go to Walmart and buy the, like the sheer ones, but those also are basically just like nylons. So it's like, what is that protecting from? You know, just like contact paper, isn't it? Yeah. It's just like stretchy contact paper where I feel like the paper bag is more protective. So I remember going to the jewel and cutting the bags and my sister was so good.
Friendship Evolution from School to Adulthood
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We did. And then remember duct tape wallets? Kind of the same thing. Yes. Oh my gosh. Actually, remember, did you ever see there was this trend for purses that after the duct tape came, like, the juice box one? The juice box purses or the gum wrapper ones, too? Wait a minute. Yeah. Hold on. Everything always comes back. Because if you see the- Or starburst wrappers, too. Starburst wrappers. You're right. Everything comes back because I remember, like, longing for this purse that was, like, basically like duct tape, but it was, like,
00:05:27
Speaker
looked like orange juice cartons on the outside and have you seen that trend of like now you can have that purse with your drinks in it they're like yep they have it at portofino i believe yeah p3 portofino wait a minute everything always just should we get one tonight after yeah yeah it's a good idea actually yeah i have purse i i have purse Wait, you said something. Oh, okay. Cable. My other fear was bankruptcy. Peter Francis Dracy. I feel like I thought... Peter Francis Dracy. You know who I'm talking about? The local Chicago commercials run deep. They do. I know people that are not local to Chicago are like, what are you talking about? Yeah. Or there was one on the radio that was ah some insurance company, um, that was major. What's that one?
00:06:11
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I don't remember. Uh, my dad listened to WGN on the way to work. And sometimes I would, um, go to work with him. I don't know why. And now I'm just processing that, which I feel like that's hanging out in real life too. It's just like, we'd probably be like, Oh wait, that happened. Actually we were at the DNC together last week and ah we hung out with a friend that you knew already in from the internet, but had never met in real life. And we three became very best friends. Very best Anna. Shout out Anna.
00:06:38
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I hope she listens to my podcast. Um, she'll definitely listen to this one. Yeah. And then she'll text in the group chat
Social Dynamics: School vs. Youth Groups
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about it. yeah Um, and then she said, she goes, wow, do you guys like write down your stories? Cause this dynamic is really funny to watch. And we were like, we actually funny. You say that we actually are writing a sitcom.
00:06:55
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ah Two years in the works and then it's done. It just keeps changing. Yeah. Yeah. We have a lot of interesting stories. Right. So, okay. So Lisa Frank was a big part of your life. Yeah. It it really was mine and a little bit more of my sisters, but by proxy me. Yeah. Yeah. And my dog just came in the room. Hey, Millie. Okay. So we're gonna, we're we're gonna process your trauma of why you did, why you went to work with your dog.
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Yeah, Jesus. we Did you ever do take your kid to work day? It's just kind of hard with my dad. When I was that young, my dad was still in residency. So it wasn't like a thing. Yeah. But when later in life, it was too cool. Like it was too cool to do, you know, when did you become too cool? Well, I mean, it was like high school, like, you know, yeah. And also too, my dad works like work like 12 hour days. So I'm like, I didn't want to do that. I remember if like senior year, all of my friends, because my mom and dad were like the like You like, I wanted to have people come over because I'm like, Oh, I have like cool parents, you know? And it's like, and I like, that was like part of me, like, look how cool my parents are, you know? Um, and also too, like at school, I didn't have a ton of friends. It was more like youth group friends, just because I spent more time there than school or like doing activities there. But every one senior year that was going into nursing or wanted to go into medicine would be like, can I, we shadow your dad. So I'm like, of course I'm going to go with them. And so I would just go watch surgeries. And did your friends that wanted to shadow him, did they end up going? Yeah, some of them. Lewis University, a lot of nurses out of there. I just actually lied. I thought you were talking about your friend Lewis, and I just went along with it. Like, yeah, I've met Lewis. Yeah, no, I've met you. You've met anyone from my high school. I know. I don't know. But I just panicked. Oh, yeah. I don't think I get it and all for it. But these people who are friends with people they were friends with in high school, I'm like, I don't even have one friend I still talk to.
00:08:47
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I am the same way and I think like some people, I don't know what I want to say, but I think like you and I are people that like are really evolving a lot throughout our lives. Yeah. I feel like I basically started in, you know, like a new me recently. Okay. I think that some people that have stayed friends with the same friends, like either you are, you made like really good choices and like you evolved together.
00:09:19
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may You made really good choices. like like So I'm wondering, I'm thinking like people that were friends in high school, like maybe they had less to go through than people who kind of move through different life stages.
90s Nostalgia and the Book It Program
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so My friends were from youth group. yeah And then I went away to college. you know and so i think that was like a lot of And everyone from youth group goes like separate ways. It's not like you go to a hometown. like I didn't do blackout Thursday or blackout Wednesday because I didn't drink then. you know So it's like those kinds of like camaraderie things yeah that kept going after high school I never got into. Yeah, same, actually. and i Because I, in high school, I think you that's probably it, too, because I was more of a youth group kid, too.
00:10:01
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and I think people, I don't know, but I am friends with people I went to high school with. like It's not like they're enemies, but they're just not my closest friends. Right. i i would I don't know if I was invited to my 10-year reunion, but I was the first graduating class. Everyone's invited. Well, i wasn't get them right but every every like I was the first graduating class of my high school. Whoa. Yeah, it was really weird how they did it, but we don't have to go into it now because I never talked to my elementary school. ah Right, yeah. Anyway, elementary school.
00:10:27
Speaker
Yeah. Making new friends and and making new friends as adults is harder, I think, for people. Oh, 100 percent. So I like shout out Chloe, but my friend Chloe made a group here in Chicago called One Drink In, which I know you've heard of, like a lot of women in Chicago have heard of it because that was all point. It's like it's hard to make friends later in life, but like I've met many people who have met their friends, even people we know who've met their friends through that. So that is why. yeah So, okay. There's something that we both love a lot. And, um, I think it collides our world beautifully. and What did you say? Well, that's true. One thing that Rod makes fun of me about is that like, he'll be like, nice done my stomach hurts. And I'm like, that's probably unprocessed. Yeah. you do say
00:11:14
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I do. And it is our body. Yeah. Our body holds trauma, but okay. Okay. Hop in, hop in. What do you think the other thing is besides trauma that is our crossover? Do you have a guess?
00:11:27
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know if you want religion, but I was going to say book it from pizza and book it from Pizza Hut, which I did read it. So anyway, book it at Pizza Hut is something that you have famously talked about on your TikToks. Pizza Hut reached out to me to sponsor a pizza party on the roof. What? Oh yeah. I was there. yeah Were you there? Yeah. I wore a red tank top.
00:11:55
Speaker
Yes, you were. Do you remember? I think there was four people that showed up. Yeah, it was Serena. Serena, Evan, you, Johnny, and Jonathan. I think Rick. Rick, of course. Yeah. Love that guy.
Impact of Internet Trends on Millennials
00:12:07
Speaker
You didn't remember that I was there? My life just blends together. But just assume that I'm always there. Yeah, I'll just assume that you're always there. Yeah.
00:12:17
Speaker
Okay. So famous, like top eight two years ago. I was like, Oh, you miss last year fully there. Oh yeah. Yeah. Rod was like, Beth, you've never been to one of my top eight events, but she throws these like Myspace parties that are like huge, like a thousand people. And I'm, I was like, I was there actually. Here's a picture. and i pulleded up that Here's a picture of us. That is my famous move as I pull up. Here's what it said. So let me do that in a text message. You did say it. yeah Oh yeah. yeah With Carissa. Wow. Okay. So they sent you pizza to have a pizza party. And can you tell listeners, just describe what it was in the nineties. Paint the picture of of the book at Pizza Hut. Oh, book it so you had to read.
00:12:58
Speaker
books based on your, your grade. I think I'm going to, I think I went up to sixth grade maybe because I can't imagine high schoolers walking and be like, I did book it, but it went up to sixth grade. And for every book you read, you got a sticker. And then after a certain amount of stickers, you could get a free personal pan pizza. And that's when people ate inside of a pizza hut. Like you, you can picture the restaurant, how it looks, it looks like a big old hut. Do they still exist that you can eat inside? Yeah.
00:13:27
Speaker
I actually low-key love Pizza Hut and Chuck E. Cheese Pizza. Chuck E. Cheese Pizza is so good, I've been saying. It's so, I can't believe we've never talked about this. Sorry to your editor.
ADHD and School Experiences: Personal Stories
00:13:38
Speaker
Because you know what, to me it tastes like Chuck E. Cheese Pizza is the Whole Foods Pizza.
00:13:42
Speaker
same type of sauce and cheese and the cheese I know it's fake as fake and This is a children's podcast. It's not but No, actually a lot of we have like a like we had like a lactation consultant on and she like dropped the F bomb and I was like oh um No, the cheese at the beats at Turkey cheese was unmatched and there's nothing like getting out of the ball pit the disease infested ball pit I'm sure yes Finding a penny at the bottom and showing your mom and grabbing a size pizza. Oh, I don't know that I ever got one. A pizza, a book, a book. it Yeah. Did your school participate? I don't know. I don't really remember a lot. Okay. Well, I remember too, like they would do like free socks games with your dad for father's day. We were Cubs fans, so we didn't go. but That seems sort of biased. What if you don't have a dad?
00:14:36
Speaker
Right. A lot. There was a lot of that though in the nineties too. It's like happy month. Like mother's day was like, make this for your mom and stuff. And it's like, I think that still kind of happens and it is interesting. I started seeing it from a different lens.
00:14:49
Speaker
Well, I remember someone but in my class, their mother did pass away and like, well, just make it for your grandma or something. Like my grandma's also passed away like or make it for a mother figure in your life. My niece's school does, um, special person day. And they don't really do like mother's day, father's day. I love that actually. Yeah. Our grandparents' day. oh just special person I remember grandparents say too, that was big. I never, I didn't have a a hundred day. Oh, when we we learned this song. 100 day is quite a while, but it is not a year. Give it cheer. Give it cheer. 100 day is here. Wow, I'm surprised you remember that, too. i It's probably trauma. Yeah. Well, because I actually did not like my kindergarten teacher. Oh, I didn't like my first grade one. Why not? And this is Rosby. RIP.
00:15:35
Speaker
yeah but You're just angry for like a first grade teacher. My brother my brother had her, too, because it was a Christian school. It was smaller, you know so they only had like basically homeschool. Basically homeschool. There's 20 kids in each class, and there was one teacher. But she just was so angry all the time. And I'm sure it was because of something. you know And i can of you know we both were teachers at a certain point. And you do get frustrated when you know and you oh yeah have to corral. Oh, yeah, teachers are human. And I'm all for another paid. yeah And I'm all for, like,
00:16:04
Speaker
um being like, well, you know, there might have been something going, but if your first thought is. He did that to me yesterday. Like I don't like to, I don't like to assume anything until I know all the information. But in this case of a first grade teacher, if your first memory is that she was angry, like that's not like an and assumption of like, well, maybe you, you were generous to say my brother would cry going into class every day. Yeah. My brother also, he was diagnosed with ADHD early in life. So he's emotional yeah.
00:16:35
Speaker
Actually, go listen to the ADHD podcast episode because a lot of a friend of mine who is a therapist literally just um texted me yesterday and was like, oh, anytime my husband and I get in a fight now, I just say, it's just because of my ADHD. And I go, wait, you think you have ADHD now? And she goes, oh, yeah, I listened to the episode with the psychologist and I for sure do. We're having a psychologist on mine, Dr. Sasha, and she's going to talk about like getting diagnosed later in life because it's so common right now. I think 2020 put everything in like hyper focus for everyone. Like everyone's just stuck inside with their own thoughts, you know? Yeah. Except for I did hear a podcast that was like.
Emotional Impact of Childhood Books
00:17:13
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Well, I'm not gonna get into it but like the it talks about the over like diagnosing Oh 100% but that wouldn't want it That's one of the reasons I love teaching is these teachers just what there's one teacher that blatantly said that it was a sixth grade classroom and she was like We just all of these all these kids are over diagnosed right now. I'm like, that's your attitude though every day Like you're not gonna I know, lose the tood. So okay, you got book it, I didn't get book it. um But that kind of segues better into ah my question of, oh wow, I have a lot of things I want to talk about. What is a book that you remember from your childhood that you think maybe as an adult, you look back and you're like, I don't know if that was appropriate to read as a kid.
00:17:58
Speaker
I love you book or whatever it's called, you know the kid in the toilet with As long as I'm living my baby you'll be yeah you forever all Yeah, I think it was just like I don't know why it just makes me a little uncomfortable But I love my mom, so. My mom was a great mom. No, I was making, I was, you know, I actually, it made me sad too, because, um, well, I think it's like, you're that's what you're talking about, right? We're like, and then, and then he's holding his mom. I think yeah that's why it was, it's like, my mom's going to die one day. That was the first book too, for me and the giving tree actually, that like made me like think about death. And then all of a sudden I thought about death all the time. all the time. That's all i thought yeah that's that's why it was felt weird to me. I remember because I didn't even really lose anyone that close in my life until like three years ago because my family was all relatively young. But I just remember like the fear of losing someone. You know, it's like what what that grieving must have looked like. And
Critiquing Reading Logs and Incentive Programs
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you know what? I wonder if this is like this is just a random thought, but like we are both ADHD adults
00:18:56
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neurodivergent. And I wonder if like, books like that affect, I know that they do affect like highly sensitive kids way differently, because like, I'm sure people are listening to like, my kids fine, or like my kid doesn't think about death all the time. But actually, I, one of my really good friends um was once on this podcast, and I was like, your child is highly sensitive. And I forgot that she told me at my last event, that she was like,
00:19:23
Speaker
they got to my in-person event and she was like, wait, Ms. Beth isn't dead. and And she was like, but in my defense, she's a obsessed with death right now. And I'm like, now I'm putting this all together that like maybe some kids are fine with like hearing about the end times and revelation and some kids that are are highly sensitive kids, it's literally causes them to have nightmares and anxiety all their life. And I think if you go into it, but that book put kind of left it on like, you know, it's just there was an old person and the young person was holding that person, you know, thinking about it. Yeah. But I think the like talking about that kind of stuff young with kids is really important because, you know, like people will lose a loved one eventually. So if, you know, like I'm not saying like instill it in them or fear monger them, but there are certain ways to to talk about it. Absolutely. Thank you for saying that because I think that that's a big thing that's happening in our like parenting and education world is that people are hearing the extremes. Like that is such a good point of forcing. And that was what I was going to say about book it is like, I, I kind of famously.
00:20:26
Speaker
Also, I famously say famously for people. I say it all the time, maybe do i get it from but I don't say it about me because then it sounds like really conceited. No, I was going to, mine was going to be a joke thing. Like I famously am not a fan of reading logs. Like it would be famous. So you're famously taking down Pizza Hut as a system. and It's not around anymore. I just googled it. Oh, really? I mean, they sent me a t-shirt that said book it. Well, it does look like there's, it says book it program.com. I want to do it for adults.
00:20:52
Speaker
Well, okay. but maybe Maybe we can, uh, the ultimate collab is you and I doing that. Let's do it. Maybe we get Kate Steinberg again on it too. Oh yeah. She would totally do it. Let's text her right now. Um, Hey, Kate. Um, Hey Siri, text Kate. I do do that a lot. I know you do. Does this just say sign know Siri? Yeah. Oh, how embarrassing. I thought that it's okay it was showing up regular.
00:21:16
Speaker
I think you do talk to texts that won't, but you say, Hey Siri, you type a little thing and you hit the, you say send. So you do it all through Siri. Oh, okay okay. Okay. So I famously don't love reading logs for kids. And again, just like we're talking about all these things, some kids, it doesn't affect as much, but in general, when we have a goal to accomplish something ah rather than like the goal to be to fall in love with it, it kind of takes away the purpose.
Anxiety and Popcorn Reading
00:21:46
Speaker
Kids aren't learning to make that choice on their own. Of course, like some kids might need different types of motivation, et cetera, et cetera. But maybe that's why I didn't do the bucket thing. But um it's kind of like, are you that kind of person that if someone's if everyone's talking about a TV show, you're kind of like, I'm not going to watch it. That was me with Ted Lasso.
00:22:06
Speaker
Oh yeah, it did take you a long time. It took me a long time. I just watched it. And because I was like, I was really sick a couple of months ago and I'm like, I've watched every TV show in existence at this point. I'm like, well, time to watch the one show that everyone rides home about the still number two on Apple TV. And I fell in love with it. Oh yeah. You called me crying when it was over. Yeah. Cause spoiler, they won.
00:22:26
Speaker
You literally, like I was like, what, what? They won. Oh my gosh. You're a knucklehead. Me. may So I don't necessarily love reading logs because of like the anxiety and accomplished reading instead of like devour it. We want kids to like devour books, but you said something else about reading that I think is really interesting popcorn reading. is And do you think that that is where your anxiety started? Anxiety started at popcorn reading. Um, so if you are lucky enough to not know what popcorn reading is either just explain it yes because, good job. it's touching my head for those Actually, there's a theory about, um, it's called responsive classroom as an approach to like having kind of like, it's, response it's kind of like similar to gentle parenting, right but there's like logical consequences. But one of the pillars in it is like, never assume anyone knows
00:23:22
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00:25:22
Speaker
This is what you wanted unless you explicitly say this is how you use it and this is where you use it. You are the one that's in the wrong like with with branch with my dog. Like if I leave like a trash bag out and he gets into it, I'm like.
00:25:35
Speaker
can't get mad at him yeah because it ah there's a trash bag there. Exactly. So anyway, one of the things is not to, not to, um, I'm like, what was I talking about? Not to expect that anyone knows anything. And I think that's a good thing to think in life. So I'm not assuming that anyone knows what popcorn reading is, but it's kind of like an old school thing. And if you're listening to this and you use it in your classroom, no. No.
00:26:02
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know It's not ah beneficial because, okay, so it's like, you know, you're reading a passage out loud. And okay, so think about just thinking of reading out loud. It's ridiculous because like, we don't really read out loud. So you only like a child really only needs to have like good, like be be good at reading out loud.
00:26:21
Speaker
for the teacher to like see what they're able to read. like You don't really have to read out loud in life. so One, it's weird that like we do this thing where it's like you're going to read this passage or this chapter and it's just going to read out loud and you're going to call on random kids just to like make sure that they're like listening and kind of have gotcha moments. which i That's exactly what it is. It's yeah it's gotcha. Gotcha. It's all you yawn in. Yeah, exactly. It's like, oh, so you weren't following along. And then embarrassing kids in front of the class causing shame and associating shame with learning and then associating shame with reading. and
00:26:54
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Which shame is interesting though. I had to talk with my therapist about it yesterday because I had to cancel the last two sessions because of my own. I have time blindness as we know. yeah So I think that I can get everything done. It's like, Oh, I have the DNC that day, but I can do therapy in the morning where it's like, no, I should have just said, I have the DNC this week. I can't meet this week because things come up. And she was just like, I'm not saying this to come down on you or whatever. She's like, but like, or to like.
00:27:17
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I'm not mad at you, but she's like, there is a part of therapy and a part of like, growth that shame does come to play, you know, or it's like, it does cause you to like, pay more attention or to like, understand, like, and you could disagree, but like, oh wait i mike i want um I don't follow quite yet.
00:27:34
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Oh, she was just saying that like her being having to bring it up. She's like, I know this was going to make you feel shameful because that's what I'm working a lot on in my life is shame. Yeah. As we know. And she was like, this isn't the point of that. It's just more of to, I have to address this and and so what you're going to feel ashamed. So what was she addressing? Like it was bad that you canceled. so that I late canceled two weeks in a row. Cause it's like her time too. You know, I see you did it in the 24 hour. No, I didn't.
00:28:01
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I think guilt is I did something bad. Shame is I am bad. Right. So like, it's like, that's that line. So I love that actually. Yeah, it's better. Yeah. Um, I'm sure that's what she meant. Yeah. yeah probably um Um, okay.
00:28:18
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I was going to say something about popcorn reading. I was just going to ask. Oh, oh anyway, so it's you call on a student, they start reading wherever the last person dropped off. It's not an effective reading strategy, and it's not an effective um call on classroom, responsive classroom strategy. And all you had to do was just know when the paragraph ended, you had to listen for that last word, and then just be ready.
00:28:39
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And if you were a perfectionist like me, um you would kind of sometimes in popcorn reading, you could like kind of predict if it was coming. And I would just not be listening at all to what the other person was reading and would be preparing the next paragraph so I could impress everyone.
00:28:55
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Yeah, and there was like the the you know the teacher's pets or whatever, it's probably a bad word in this circle. um But like the people who wanted to impress the teacher that would like love it, they would like be ready for it. They'd be like, yes, my turn, my turn. Anyway, they would show how good they are at reading. And I think it starts more like later, obviously, when people can kids can read out loud, which a lot of your the kids you teach probably read out
Nostalgia for Childhood Snacks and Market Days
00:29:16
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loud by kindergarten. so um But like I know for me, I don't really remember popcorn reading until like fourth grade. But as a secondary ed major, secondary education, that was like an encouraged way of classroom participation. Oh yeah, I was literally taught to do that in college. Yeah, i'm like and I remember even in my year of teaching, like that's I was in a classical education setting, and the classical education setting is all about reading and like then discussion after. And they're like, just do popcorn reading. This is like terrible for this format of learning. yeah youve Yeah, you knew. When the trying to impress people versus like being embarrassed. So I was thinking about in popcorn reading, I like remember moments where I'm like, Oh, no, when you come to a word that you don't know how to read. And like, it is so embarrassing to have to like struggle through that. What if someone had just had a hard time reading, it wasn't at the same reading level. And you don't want again, don't want to shame someone for that. Exactly. Right. Because then they have like, I
00:30:13
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I'm not as smart as the rest of the class. Exactly. And that stays with you. um I carry that in real deep in my chest. um Is that trend over? because i just thought yeah we haven't done um Could I do one today? 100%. Oh, OK. Because I was going to do. You could do something with popcorn. but Popcorn reading. and i actually you know what And that is in my um i g or my TikTok ideas folder already. We already talked about this months ago. OK.
00:30:41
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Um, but one thing that I do think about often is in speaking of saying the wrong word is when I was in high school, I went to Coldstone Creamery. Coldstone, love Coldstone Creamery. What was your favorite? Um, I would do a con, I would obviously make my own. That's one thing about me too, even at a salad bar, it's like, I will never go off the menu. Like, even if like I need to make my own, so I would do the cheesecake ice cream. And then I would do, cause the, the.
00:31:09
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recipe had raspberries in it and like, no, I want strawberries. So I would do strawberries. And then I would do a graham cracker in it too. Brother, you are speaking my language. Yeah. And then I would throw in a couple of brownie bites. So I was at Cold Stone and I said, I would like a strawberry banana rendezvous. Rendezvous.
00:31:38
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But I said rendezvous. Because I had never- But isn't that how you teach kids to read? like there Isn't that phonetical? Yeah, but like so I hadn't like learned- maybe I was like in eighth grade. I hadn't like learned how to decode that. or You hadn't learned French. I hadn't learned French. I just vanished. And I remember being really mortified.
00:31:57
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Of course, because then the workers were like, you mean rendezvous? Yeah, and I was like, actually, sometimes things like that happen to me, and I'm not really embarrassed. No. Like, remember when you spilled the branch dressing? Yeah, and I was obviously embarrassed. Yeah, and I was like, that wasn't embarrassing. It's fine. Like earlier, Jewel, when the pharmacist switched, you're like, oh my gosh. Why did she switch? That was weird. I would have literally been like, I'm sorry, we can't continue this day. I need to go home and think about that the rest of the day.
00:32:25
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Yeah, I don't care. I don't care. um So, OK, so you were anxiety started with popcorn reading, as did mine. I was a bad reader. But my last two questions for you are, what do you miss about elementary school and what is your favorite childhood book? We talked about the things we didn't like. Oh, God. The thing I miss most about.
00:32:49
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elementary school is probably market days day, but I don't know if everyone knows what market days is. It's basically like your mom could order Costco to your school and then pick it up. But it was like, they had the coolest shit, like things you would find at Costco. You can only find a Costco so like French, like French toast sticks. They're the best French toast sticks. But I remember my mom loved their corn. So we always get corn from market days. We would get mozzarella sticks. Like we would get oh things like that. Like the pizza bites, like you said, are so good. The taquitos. Oh my God. The taquitos were so good. Oh,
00:33:18
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So I probably miss market days the most. so Um, and then specifically Bosco sticks. Oh yeah. It's like a stuffed bread stick, but a lot of people know what Bosco sticks are once mass ordered 400 of them. You did? Yeah. And then when I moved, I only ate two and then when I moved, I threw the rest still, but you can order them on Amazon and bulk for those listening, put it in your like to know it. Bosco sticks.
Learning Friendship and Self-Awareness in Childhood
00:33:41
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Remember the minute made juice bars.
00:33:43
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Yeah. Do you remember kudos bars? Of course. Of course. I think about kudos bars at least once a week. At least once a week. What about tricks yogurt? I loved tricks yogurt. It's still around. Lunchables are still around. Yeah, lunchables are still around. And the way I preach about lunchables, they haven't gotten too crazy. They kept the same stuff. You see how they're not trying new things? Yeah. Very demure. Very demure. Very mindful. But do you know the one that they did discontinue, which is good because it probably just looked like crap, physically looked like crap was the tacos. You remember the packet that you had open and that was you to squeeze the meat out? Oh yeah. Me too. I hated, I hate cold pizza. I'm like, why am I making cold pizza right now? I didn't like the cold pizza. I actually, I actually didn't like pizza when I was little.
00:34:24
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Interesting. I didn't like pizza until I was like 22. Thank you. Brother, I'm going to tell you something. There's not a single pizza I have met that I haven't liked. Same. For toppings, there has been. I won't do a Hawaiian, but as far as like a pizza, I can eat a pizza anywhere. Something I do remember is I remember when Gogurt's launched. Same. Like remember when it was like a new concept? It was so cool. It was so cool.
00:34:48
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Oh my God. So what really what I miss most about elementary school is food. like If that's shocking to anyone. I'm like, now I'm thinking about mondo's. I think that was like, do you remember? Well, do you remember those juice boxes that were like, like Kool-Aid had it and they're like the planet blast or something like that where you had to twist. It was like, it was, watch me describe it, but it was like this okay and then it was like a tube. And then I think it was called Kool-Aid tubes with a Z. And then you had to twist the plastic top and then you would squeeze. Maybe it's called squeezes. I don't know. Something like that. yeah Anyway, and then purple ketchup.
00:35:20
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Did you ever get the pizzas from a market? Oh, purple ketchup? Loved. I remember walking with my dad on vacation to go to Burger King to try the purple ketchup because I- Oh, I didn't have fast food places, had I? Yeah. You just get it from the store. Burger King had purple and green. Or the parquet had purple and blue butter, or pink and blue butter, and I would make purple. Oh, actually something that's stored in my brain is this rumble and brown. Spread the joy around. Do you remember that butter? It was spreadable butter.
00:35:49
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Rumble and Brown. No, I just know the croc croc country because my family would butter, butter, butter. Have you seen Tik Tok people like here's how he entire stick of butter in one meal. I'm like, um, more power to him. Far as the book. Can I answer the book question? Oh, or did you want to meet again? I was going to ask one more thing. Did you have the market days pizzas ever? No, we were Tony's family. No, but they're like individual pizzas. Oh, probably. We got to have them if we did our piano once a week on Thursdays. I just ate linguine pizzas from the age of like eight. I was, I drank slim fast when I was like 10. Oh, I went on Weight Watchers at 12. I remember using the calculator. Remember the special K diet? Yeah, of course I do. You're just eating cereal. Again, just another capitalist venture. Special K cereal with Kellogg's. It's like, no, just buy our products.
00:36:42
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That specialty was so smart because they literally like it's a diet, but it's literally just eating there. Oh, and you know what? I love it. I love it. I i was a weird kid though for cereal. My favorite was cinnamon life or raisin bran. I liked this one called good friends. It was from Kashi. It was a fancy Kashi that young.
00:37:03
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Wow, your dad was onto it early. He probably had to go to some some specific market to get it early. Yeah, it was called Good Friends, and it was two people on the box. And it was like mostly just fiber and raisins.
00:37:16
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Look at us. I mean, like, I think it was like tree branches. And that's why you like dense bean salad. No, you do. I love fiber. Um, okay. So your favorite child loves it. What's, what do you miss about elementary school? Oh, I think I miss like learning something new about like the world every day. yeah Like I remember learning something like, like finding out, like I remember like learning two moments about learning about friendship and,
00:37:44
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I was sick. I kind of, I had strep a lot as a kid and I was like out for like, I remember like, I think when I was in fourth grade, I was out like three times, like the third time I missed like four days of school. And I remember like my mom walked us to school that day and I was like, mom, watch this.
Humor as a Social Tool in Childhood
00:38:02
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And I like went up to some girlfriends that I saw, like I was like in fourth grade and I tapped them on the shoulder and they just shrieked and jumped up and down, like then I was back. And I remember like knowing Oh, my friends love me like like finding that out and that like I knew they were going to do that. But like being like my I remember feeling that for the first time. Yeah. But then also being like a highly sensitive kid, I do remember being like, well, then I stopped hanging out with my mom and I not like that morning because I mean, I didn't really often have just one on one time. I have a huge family. You have a huge family. And so I like then remember like being like my mom and I were talking and then I saw my friends and I Like, so I remember feeling like the conflicting, but like looking back, like that is something I store in my memory for some reason that must've been like a way I found out like.
00:38:51
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Oh, you feel excited when other people feel excited kind of thing. And yeah, I feel like fourth grade I learned, I think I learned a lot about myself in fourth grade. Like I remember there was this boy Garrett and he was really funny. Of course. Garrett's always funny. Yeah. And he like made a joke introducing himself. And before that I was really shy and I remember kind of like watching him and being like,
00:39:14
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Oh, he's being funny. like I could try to be funny. And then I like became funny. Really feminist. Instead of like being shy. I love that. so yeah that's So I think that like learning learning little moments like that, like and I feel like it like you like actually feel it in your body when you're like, oh, I just learned how to make friends. like Oh, I just learned how to not be as scared. like like I i like miss those. But I still have a lot of those who are always becoming resilient.
00:39:44
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I wish I had something deeper. i I just thought, too, I also miss Oregon Trail. So, PC Day. Remember, piecec did you just go to, like, PC Day, where you went to the PC room? What's PC? it' Like, ah the computers. I don't know what stands for that. Oh, and processing centers. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's just, like, they had, like, 12 desktop computers, and we would just play Oregon Trail or do Mavis Beacon.
Meaningful Childhood Learning Moments
00:40:06
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I remember maybe speaking it with the color coded keyboard or like the, ooh, viscerally did something to my body. Like feeling that rubber. key I but i like can feel the rubber keyboard. because People will have no idea these days. Yeah. They don't get it.
00:40:19
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And I did think of one other thing that's less nostalgic. I do remember the Oregon trail. Like do you want to, how did you get across the river when you had? Oh, I always died of dysentery. Oh, I always worked with poisoning. I was just risk it. What was it for the like, Oh yeah. You know how you could either like be like, get rid of some of the weight. Yeah. I just would be like, just risk it. Just do it. Just do it. See what happens. And I'm an entrepreneur. High risk, high reward. That's what I say in pickleball. That's what I say. It's like your pickle. but That's what I say about my pickleball surf because sometimes it goes out, but like when it's in, it's in baby. Such a good service. Impossible to return. Um, Oh, but also one other thing. Push pops. Um, Oh, like the, the frozen ones. No, the candy ones. The candy. And like once a month. Yeah. My mom would like, we would go to white hen before school.
00:41:07
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We had one right around the corner. Same. I remember. We would get our milk from White Hen. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I loved running with my parents, whoever needed to go get milk. I feel like that was such a thing. Oh, we're out of milk. We need milk. 7-Eleven, taking them down. Right? I loved, though, a 9 PM when I was in middle school or high school. I feel like we would be like, let's go to the store. And my dad would drive. And we'd be like, can we get this? And we'd be like a candy or a chips or something.
00:41:31
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Did you have moments? Yeah. Yeah. my Yeah. We would do the candy. ah My favorite was the baby bottle pops. Oh, yeah. Well, so the white hand thing was that like, if we all got ready for school in time, there's like six of us. that might yeah out of the You need a reward if you all get ready in time. And my mom would be like, okay, like on a Friday or something, like we can stop at white hand and get push pops. And I remember like she would let us have it a little bit before we went to school. And then like, we'd have to put it in our backpack, but like to have candy in the morning.
00:42:00
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Can I ask does that remind me of something yeah like rewarding kids for good behavior. Like I remember at the end of this, this summer, yeah like not the end, some of the beginning of summer, the last day of school when you got your report card, we would be so like, if we got straight A's, if we got like a B, like we would, I remember we used to be able to get a new game boy game. o said was That's another memory that I haven't thought about in a while. rememberm ta igachi Yeah, mine always died. Same. My school banned them. I actually had a dream. My school banned them with their books. My school banned Tamagotchi. I should have asked about banned books, but I had a dream that I found my Tamagotchi and I tried to bring it back to life. What do you think that means? Trauma.
00:42:43
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um okay and the book did you answer your favorite book no and now i'm thinking this is probably a book i shouldn't have been reading no you're like actually this answers the question of what i should have read but i loved it was i don't know it doesn't have to be a children's book or can it be a children's book was the stinky cheese one that had like all the different fairy tales i love that book Off to find the name of it is so good. I love that had like the three little pigs this guy was sticky cheese out But it was like dark humor for kids basically, but I loved loved loved loved the series of unfortunate events books Which is about these orphaned kids whose parents died that is described in the movie in the book I mean but There's not been a single successful movie or series created about it. Unfortunately, but um I loved those books and
00:43:27
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You know, I'm thinking when you just said the Stinky Cheese book, we had this book that had like voices and it had buttons in it you could press. Oh, of course, those like, yeah. It was like my siblings and I still do this. The funny, huh, man, sat on a bowl of spaghetti. Yeah. And you can make like the weird. Oh, I love that you guys have those moments that you remember. Oh, yeah, we still text each other. Well, my brother-in-laws will say that Gaskill girls are famous for. Famously. Famously known for quoting unquoteable things. For example. Oh, that's a good thing. Because that's inside jokes, basically. Yeah, but like we'll like watch movies and we're like,
00:44:03
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when father And like we'll just text each other stuff like that or like your big joke and and our my their husbands are like You guys are saying the lines that nobody yeah, it's not like a famous like Grinch movie
Nostalgia and Relatability: Humorous Takes
00:44:18
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line. It's like they're not quotable movies yeah no the Jungle book is in a quotable movie no and we find the quote as the The book's name is the stinky cheese man and the fairly stupid tales it and that was probably the most Consistently checked out one I read this book for the first time. Oh gosh, I had memorized it. It was like, it was this boy, I think his name was Tim. And it was like, I see yellow and red and blue. I don't know what the book was called, but like, I think he was like in like a yellow and blue outfit. I think there was red in the book, but I don't think there were a lot more colors. And I remember one of my siblings, well, a lot of my siblings are adopted, but one
00:44:55
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Um, had like more like services and like as a little kid, I didn't understand like that. I didn't need like therapists and stuff coming in the house. So I like felt kind of left out. Um, so where's my therapist today? Yeah. Like when you're five years, four, you're like, are they getting attention from the doctor for adults?
00:45:17
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come over every week. They have four adult friends. Yeah. And I'm like, nobody comes to see me. And then like, well, you know, just regular kid stuff. But I, but I remember asking and I, and I, ah this is so embarrassing. I give up. I'm sharing this.
00:45:32
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Well, what's new? Let's do sharing to the audience. sounds yeah Yeah. Okay. But I remember people are gonna be like, this was a sad episode. yeah um We're fine. we're We are. No, we are. We're great. Yeah. um no We're great. Everything is good. um But I remember, like, I always wanted to hang out with this, like, PT that worked with my sister and or OT, whatever it was. And I wanted to, like, impress her. And so I memorized this book.
00:46:00
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and I was going to show her that I could read it. I asked her if I could read it to her and so my mom and her like decided like at the end of the session like you can have five minutes and then like I, it was like my turn and she gave me a couple minutes and I opened the book and then, and I started and then I skipped a page and it was off. And I remember like her or my mom being like, oh, is that right? And cause I had memorized it and I was like, wait, wait, wait, let me restart. And my mom was like, okay, let's let her go. And I was like, I lost my one opportunity.
00:46:36
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to get attention. Oh my God. You carry that shit real deep in your chest. And that is not a relatable trend that I could do because I don't think many people are like, yeah, I also had 12 siblings with special needs and was a highly sensitive child, totally. Totally, totally. Totally get what that was like for you. I love when I post something like, oh, this is going to be so relatable or something. I post something and people like, obviously it's a joke because like chat GPT said, I talk a lot about mental health and people will be like, oh my God, are you okay? It's humor, everyone. Like it's funny. And I'm going to end with something relatable. I texted someone the other day, a friend, and said, well, I have to drink this drink in my fridge because it's the only thing that doesn't, it's the only can I have that doesn't match the other sizes of my cans in here. Oh yeah. I remember you telling me about that. Yes. So it must have really taken up a lot of space in your brain. It's still in my fridge because I couldn't finish it. I saw it. I don't want to see it. You saw it?
00:47:33
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And he was like, this is so relatable. I get that. I hate when things are the wrong size in the fridge. And I was like, should I share that? Do people hate when things are the wrong size in the fridge? Yeah. wow Wow. So anyway, that's my one way I'm relatable.
00:47:50
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That's relatable. It's not. You don't find that relatable. But we are two different people. Please actually weigh in. Will you message me after listening to this if you find it relatable to have an unorganized, to be ah so stressful to have an unorganized fridge with things that are, with something that doesn't have a partner in the fridge of height? that um You've been to my apartment. Like my apartment's not dirty. It's just organized clutter. Like I was going to say it's just organized differently.
00:48:15
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Organize differently. Yeah, where it's just like, you're good about like, this needs a home, this needs a home. I'm kind of type A. Yeah, I'm like on my back and go there whenever I need to pick it up again, you know? Yeah. Like, I've been here on days where I like put my backpack down and you're like, and then I'm leaving. Where's my backpack? I go, it's in the closet.
00:48:33
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like Well, yeah, that's where it goes. yeah
00:48:37
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Is that annoying? No, it's not annoying. A little? I envy it. Are you mad at me? No, I'm not mad at you at all. You just opened your home to me. Why would I be upset? Speaking of being mad at you. Yes.
00:48:48
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Tell us where we can find you. oh god well as chachi buti said i'm on tiktok at rod just meet dot rod on instagram and then ah just launched depending when this goes out it is launched um is the are you mad me podcast with me and my coworker turned one of our best friends Gaby. And it's just talking about, you know, a lot of what we talked about today. You were, a you were a guest. and the movie i guest you guys Yeah. I'm one of our early episodes of it. We'll launch. So we'll check out miss best.
00:49:19
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Instagram for that. um And we just talk about like the millennial experience. So with you, we talked about like cursive and things like that. But then yeah we also talk about adulthood, like how hard it is to make friends as an adult. We talked about fad diet in the 90s and how it affected us today. We talked about the journey of social media. like I've been on everything from Zenga all the way to today. And so it's just like how it it affects our day-to-day life. I love it. Could you come up with my elevator pitch about what this podcast is about?
00:49:49
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Yeah. Right now. Well, if you have anything right now, you can tell me later if you want. Yeah. I was, I was going to put on spy here. Yeah. I'll tell you later. Okay. is my Miss Beth is mama. Yeah. We got to go to the Beetlejuice screening. Yeah. And I have to explain the plot to you on the way.
00:50:04
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Yeah, because I haven't seen it. Yeah. And is it scary or fun? Oh, it's so scary. Well, because I'm still a highly sensitive child. I know. That's why I thought you had seen it. Because you're like, oh yeah, I would love to see it. And then it earlier today you said you hadn't seen it. I'm like, oh. I'm not going to be scared. Just like Tim Burton's scary.
00:50:21
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Is that a friend of yours? No. Is that a friend of yours? I famously don't know famous people. Yeah, famously don't. Yeah. Can I tell them the credit card? Yeah. okay Signing off soon. But um
Podcast Closing: Social Media and Next Episodes
00:50:33
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we were at an event for the, just like, it was a boy band. A boy band, yeah. And so they had, ah it was a charity event. And there were a bunch of different boy bands playing like, it was, Beth, it was David Archuleta, it was,
00:50:49
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part of Insink, part of Backstreet Boys, and Ryan Cabrera. Because a charity event, right? So there was just like a lot of different people working, volunteering. And Beth said, Ryan Cabrera, it's your time to go. And she just, because she was my plus one, and I was working the event too. I was the MC. But after, before she had met Nick Carter, and she had He comes up to her and he goes, oh hi, I'm Nick and then or I said, oh I go Oh, this is my friend Bethany goes. Hi, I'm Nick and then she goes Nick last she was He goes Carter you're like, oh nice to meet you and i guess Yeah, be and I'm Beth Gaskin
00:51:26
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That's an Alex from Happy Endings line. But then after, we we were taking a picture outside, and he was photobombing us. And then Beth goes, who is that? like You were annoyed that someone photobombed our picture. I go, it's Nick. And then you go, OK, take another one. It's like most people would be like dead on the floor if they had a photobomb picture of Nick Carter Which maybe when you're promoting that episode you could post that picture and be like, here's the picture reference That's a good idea. Rod is my manager. Well, he's not but I'm asking him to be yes, which he says he will but we just both have ADHD So we haven't done that yet But anyway, if I forget to post this picture someone messaged me and tell me yeah because I'll find it because I do have the live version where you can see Nick jumping jumping in and out and Beth going what like really why are you yeah I thought that you were going to tell the part about the paparazzi. No, I don't want to go into that. OK, great. love That's going to be for another episode. Yeah, there you go. Because I'll come back. Well, Rodney, thank you. Thanks, Ms. Beth. Thanks for being here. Yeah, thanks for having me. I've never been in this apartment before. It's nice.
00:52:30
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We are neighbors you were neighbors and best friends and best friends, basically siblings. yeah basically we And also, I think I've given people a lot of stuff to do, but will you message me and let me know if you want to watch our pilot?
00:52:43
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Yes, that, and then they can come to the screening. Yes. It'll be similar to the Beetlejuice. Yeah, it'll be similar. I'll post a picture of what I'm wearing. A lot of deliverables, a lot of deliverables from this episode. yeah And thank you to my amazing editor, Natalie. I hope that you can make this salvageable. Thank you. Thank you.
00:53:06
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bye