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The American Craftsman Podcast Ep. 50 | The Big Five Zero image

The American Craftsman Podcast Ep. 50 | The Big Five Zero

S1 E50 · The American Craftsman Podcast
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On Episode 50 of The American Craftsman Podcast, hosted by Greene Street Joinery, we answer your questions and celebrate 50 episodes of TACP.

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Celebrating the 50th Episode

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Episode 50 of the American Craftsman podcast.
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You know, you know, I was looking up what the 50 50th anniversary was like Golden, right? Well, yeah, the Golden Jubilee and all that stuff. But do you know like what half a centennial is called? Hmm. I had to look it up.
00:01:49
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I was going to say sesquicentennial, right? But that's like 150 years. It's a quinquagenarian is somebody who's 50 years old. So a 50th anniversary is a quinquagenary while a hundredth anniversary is called a centenary.
00:02:15
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Interesting. They get it from Latin. Yeah. That's why century, you know, Centennial and all that stuff is so much easier to say than Quinn Quagenta, meaning 50 in Latin. God. Yeah. That's a mouthful. There's a reason that's not in our everyday vocabulary. Right. That's why we call it a golden Jubilee or, you know, something like that. I'm going to a Quinn Quagenen anniversary party. Just call it 50th.
00:02:41
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Yeah. Yeah. 50th episode. Yeah. Just think two more. It's going to be a full year's worth. Yeah. Yeah, man.
00:02:52
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because we didn't count the one week that we took off. So it's, yep. We're not going by the calendar year. We're going by the actual number of episodes. And technically we did two episodes in the first week. So it is, so we're evened up will be 52 weeks. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I think we did them date back to back episode one and two was one day and then the next. Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:14
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So here we are. Who would have thought if they were going home back. We had that guy who didn't know the name. Yeah. The name right. Couldn't say American craftsman podcast. It is a little confusing. Right. Right guys. It is. I mean you could. There's all those countries first off. Yeah. You know with Wainey and a lot of a lot of consonants. Yeah. Bolivian podcast.
00:03:39
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you know, Macedonian craftsmen podcast. And there's the A's, I mean the Argentinian craftsmen podcast, the Armenian craftsmen podcast. Next podcast will keep a single name, a single word title. Australian. Just call it podcast. Welcome to podcast. Welcome to podcast. Not even the, just podcast.
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Like the eagles, everybody calls them the eagles. They always say, no, it's eagles. But they're the eagles. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know who to believe there. Yeah, that's funny. Eagles doesn't sound... It doesn't sound right, does it? It sounds good. The eagles. Right. It's like, yeah, where five guys were the eagles, not eagles.
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You know, people are a problem. Don't get me started. Let's get into the beer of

Beer of the Week - 'Monkey Face' Stout

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the week. We got beer vision this week. All right. Look at that, camera two, beer vision. Yeah, here you go. I'm handling beer vision.
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This is one I picked out when we were doing our shopping spree. It's from a slack tie brewing company out of Cape May, New Jersey. I didn't know that it's called monkey face and it's a stout 5.3% alcohol by volume. These are small 12 ounces.
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And it's brewed and packaged by Slacktide. Cape May Courthouse, New Jersey. Look at that, making a mess. Handcrafted, unfiltered. Not much of a story outside the great monkey face logo on there, so let's check it out.
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Yeah, I wonder if it's like supposed to have, does it have like banana taste to it or something? I hope not. I can see that being good. Like a chocolate covered banana. We'll see. It's got a nice caramelly kind of pour to it. I have beer all over my hand.
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Let us know what you think of beer vision. Yeah. Hey, come audio on that too. Had to come down and clean the podcast area. That's a nice shot. Yeah. See that?
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Wow. Yeah, monkey face. And what the hell is the name of the? Slacktide. Slacktide. Now to be proud of that shot. Switching back to camera one. Try it. Yes. Technical director, editor, on-air talent. I'm calling my sag representative. You're underpaid for sure.
00:06:58
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Cheers. Cheers to you guys. Monkey face. Not bad. Yeah, I like it. But that's a... Stout's my thing. I like that watery Guinness. Bread in a... No banana flavor. Yeah, thankfully for me.
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You don't think that'd be good? Like a banana bread. They do sell a banana bread beer. Oh, really? Isn't it made by Innocent Gun? I don't know. I mean, I like regular Innocent Gun for sure. So, before we get too far, I guess we go right to the tool of the week here. We don't have a lot of questions this week. Switch back to camera. I won't switch yet.
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Now, as an aside or an adjunct or something of that nature, something with an A, we got us a new tool chest in the shop.

Tool Organization and Shaller Bins

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One of those big mechanic style tool chests. And one of the drawers we designated for all the different screws.
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And being the, I don't know, ultra organized that we try to be. We said, we need all the bins to be the same in there. We want new bins. We found this place up in New England, Massachusetts. Yeah. Falls month, I think. So these are bins made in the USA and they're designed to go into tool chest drawers. Yeah. They have all kinds of different sizes.
00:08:48
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So they're called Shallow. So ShallowCorporation.com is where you reach them. And we chose these three by six. Yep. Because the cabinet is 18 by 32. Yeah, something like that. And they figured out, if we want it all the same, how many we would need. God damn camera two disappeared.
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for two. I have no idea. But it's the humble organizational bin for tool of the week. Yeah. And it's really cool. I mean these are like what 250 each $2.50 something like that maybe three. Well we got 24 of them. They fit camera shoes back. There we go. They fit right in the in the tool cabinet.
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And I can't quite read it, I guess. It says Shower on the back. And they come in basically any size you need. Height, width, depth.
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And we ordered them and they came the next day. Yeah. Yeah. Really cool. And the great thing about it is their size to have like just a slight eighth of an inch gap so you can kind of get your fingers in there and pull them out. Yeah. And that's how we like to work. Sorry for the fucked up audio there when that camera got re so we're getting dual audio.
00:10:28
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We're always working out with some sort of a shortcoming. That's it, beer vision done. Yeah. So they're called Shallow Corporation. ShallowCorporation.com. If you're in the market for bins, and basically if you have a shop, you're in the market for bins. I don't think you can go wrong by contacting. Those are even good if you have like, you know, we got one coming tomorrow, Sustainer.
00:10:58
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screw boxes in it, you know, for screws, obviously. Yeah. You know, I'm sure they have stuff that fit even deep stuff that'll go in a system or three. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. And Jeff and I both enjoy the uniformity. Yeah. You know, everything fits. Everything goes where it's, you know, back in the spot. You know where it goes.
00:11:21
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Yeah, because now it's like we got a mishmash of like yellow ones that came out of the wall containers, random ones that came out of Bosch boxes I had, ice cream, container. Yeah, it was making us crazy. Yeah, and it's a bad use of space. Yeah. That's true because the rectangular shape uses basically every little inch. And now they only go in one way. So you can't like with the drawer that we have, we still have all the other screws in the other drawer.
00:11:51
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if you take one thing out, let's say you take two things out, if you don't put them back the exact way they were in there, then everything doesn't fit. Yeah, no, it doesn't work right. So this is cool. I think this is a good find. Yeah. And they're made in America, believe it or not. Yeah, they seem like they're like a FRN or something, like a fiberglass reinforced nylon, or like a glass reinforced
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Yeah. You know, they're made for toolboxes. So I'm going to expect that they're reasonably tough. You know, it's still a thin piece of plastic. So they're not going to be unbreakable, but, um, I'm really happy with them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, cheap, simple, exactly what
00:12:39
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We were looking for it. The humble bin. Yeah. But they had a bunch of different names of toolboxes that they would fit in. Husky, which we bought, wasn't one. I didn't recognize the other ones. They were like... No. More for machinists and mechanics. Yeah, that's what I'm guessing they are. More these industrial sort of brands that you don't find at like a regular store, but yeah.
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So that's pretty cool. I'm really happy we came across that. Yeah. So we got 24 of them in that drawer. Yeah. All right. So the links will be down there in their usual spot. Yep. So if you need one or you need a hundred, check it out. I think we paid about 60. I can tell you, I'll tell you the price. Yeah. Pull it up. S-C-H-A-L-E-R.
00:13:35
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What the hell? You can tell us what city it is too.
00:13:46
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$74.55 shipped for $24. That includes UPS shipping. It's just over $3 each, including tax and shipping. They are in Franklin, Massachusetts. There you go. Shout out to Franklin, Massachusetts and the Shala Corp. They're $2.52 each. Paid $14 in shipping. And that's it. Cool. Check them out.
00:14:16
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All right. Support another small business. Yeah.
00:14:22
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Well, on to the questions, I guess. Yeah, we only got about half a dozen this week. We're kicking around on ideas now for a revamp of the podcast format, so stay tuned within the next... Thinking after we officially hit a year, we're gonna change things up a little bit, so... Yeah, yeah. It's good for us, it's good, hopefully, for the listeners. Yeah. Yeah, a little more focused and... Maybe even informative.
00:14:52
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Yeah. So we got our first question here from one of our patrons, Corey, CT Woodwork on Instagram. If you could make something for your favorite musician slash band slash artist, who would it be? Wow.
00:15:13
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I mean, I mean, the first my first thought would be an instrument, you know, because that would be pretty cool. Yeah. You know, other than that, I would go towards like maybe. Something revolving around sound like, you know, a place that it's who would it be? Oh, who would not? What would it be?
00:15:45
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Yeah, can you think of anything? Favorite? I can never answer these questions because it's ever changing for me and I don't have a favorite really. I shouldn't say that. I don't have a favorite anything.
00:16:04
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For things like music and stuff like that, I don't have a favorite. Yeah, I go back and forth, I'll latch on to something for a while, I go back to something else. I don't know, when I read this this morning, I thought somebody like James Brown would be really cool. Because you know that's somebody that's going to be talking about you all the time.
00:16:26
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Obviously James Brown. Yeah, you better do a good job. Yeah, James Brown gets a little crazy. He'll come and hunt you down and write a song about it. That's good publicity.
00:16:44
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I mean when we think about any of the local heroes there's only this we're not really big fans of the two biggest local heroes. Yeah. Bruce Springsteen and Bon Jovi. Yeah. Bon Jovi. Now while I'm not
00:16:59
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Musically, I don't care less about them. Otherwise, well, I'm not as a big fan of Bon Jovi's music You know whenever I hear a story about him locally. It's always something that is good Yeah, he owns of like a place in Red Bank called JBJ. So
00:17:18
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soul kitchen kitchen. Yeah.

Admiring Bon Jovi's Community Service

00:17:20
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Where they you can like if you're down on your luck you can go and and they'll put you to work for a little bit in exchange for a meal. And like when you you can eat there it's a restaurant. Yeah. All the money goes towards I don't know all the money. It's to benefit the operation that they have
00:17:40
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Yeah, he's known to be a pretty generous guy. And whenever he's in some sort of social situation, like with his kid or something at football practice, a pretty normal guy for somebody who's attained the level of success that he has. So it might be nice to do something for him.
00:18:07
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people that I admire musically, a lot of them like James Brown. They're no longer with us, you know, and people that I would love to meet and just talk like somebody like Fela Kuti. I wouldn't have much in common with him personally. You know, I'd love to hear him and, and have him just talk.
00:18:28
Speaker
Yeah, it's like less interesting to interact with them one-on-one than it would be to just sit in on them talking about something. Right, right. You know, stuff like that. The pop star thing, neither of us are really enamored by those types of things.
00:18:52
Speaker
I mean, who is there? We got Donald Fagan still kicking. Yeah, Donald Fagan. I mean, we love Steely Dan. We love Clutch. And that guy seems pretty cool, too. That would be cool. I'd like to make something for one of those guys, because they're just down to earth. They're rock stars, but they probably live in a regular house, because they're not selling out stadiums, rock stars. But that's how they make their living. We could go in there, because when we saw that video where he did the thing for the school kid,
00:19:20
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He was like in his garage or like junk tools. We could go in here and do like a garage makeover, you know, and stuff that might be cool. What's up with the song named Pulaski Skyway.
00:19:36
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Um, we should try and link up with them when they're here in December. Yeah. Yeah. We've got tickets allegedly if, if this thing ever settles in and we get to go, um, we're looking forward to seeing clutch trying to get, yeah, trying to get tickets. They haven't gone back, but
00:19:52
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Vega might be a pretty difficult client, but we're used to that. Yeah, that's our kind of client though. Right. New York City kind of like. Stickler for detail and stuff that that's the people you know that most that like when a company says all these people are real pain in the ass so they're really difficult. That's kind of the starting point for. Yeah, because if you're not particular then you just go to somebody else. You'd go and pick it off the shelf.
00:20:21
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Um, we're at some, you know, have Chico make it for you. Yeah. We look forward to the discerning client. That's, that's our bread and butter. And it kind of gets us going too, because it really pushes us to push ourselves. We like that. Um, if it's easy, it's not worth doing. No. So we haven't really come up with a definitive answer, but we have a pretty general idea. Um,
00:20:47
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somebody who does good. I mean, Springsteen's the biggest guy, but there's some about him that, you know, when I was younger, I was really like, when born to run came out and then darkness on the edge of town. We're talking late seventies. I was a teenager and I was like, man, this is cool. This really speaks to me. Um, but as time has worn on, it doesn't ring true anymore. And it's like newer stuff. You mean?
00:21:15
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Yeah, and it's just a certain falseness about it to me that the earlier stuff, you know, portrayed this genuine kind of longing. And I think that's what I related to at the beginning. I have heard that people that have run into him, because I mean, he lives a couple of miles away. And everybody said he was really nice and have run into other people from the band and said that they were cool too.
00:21:43
Speaker
I do know I do have several stories from the drummer of that band and he's well we'll just say not nice. What a piece of shit. He tried to stop the trail from being from being renovated and repaired after a hurricane destroyed it right. His house overlooks it.
00:22:08
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So he didn't want the plebes walking past. Or the sound of construction down there, I guess. Yeah. What a dick. I know. I know. And that's just the least of what I've heard. Everybody in the lowlands lost their house. Meanwhile, he's up there.
00:22:24
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it over. Don't rebuild this trail. Yeah. Yeah. And I, you know, I did some tax scam like, you know, like many do on the property taxes, you know, we're all paying very high property taxes here in this part of New Jersey. And
00:22:42
Speaker
highest property taxes in the country. Yeah. Something something that the wealthy do is they'll if you have more than five acres you can get this special farm allowance if you designate a small area to
00:22:58
Speaker
Crop or something and you only have to sell like five hundred dollars worth of stuff I think they they really changed they clamped down on that they did last I looked into it It was it's a lot more difficult. You have to show like genuine farm stuff. Yeah, and like I forget for the first year or something, you know, there's no tax break and I think I could be wrong, but I think they kind of Put it in. Yeah, good. Good. I
00:23:27
Speaker
You know, unless we can benefit from it. Yeah. I got bees and bees live out there. That's right. I got a bird sanctuary. My lawn is all clover. That's right. Not a stitch of grass. We're growing clover. I like the look of clover. Yeah, I do too.
00:23:45
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Okay, so I think we've answered that to the best of our ability. I think so. I think time to move on. And this is from Keith, Two-Bit Woodworks, of Bottle Opener fame and... You see it right there on the table. Early guest of the podcast, twice. And he's... Episode what? Nine and... You'll stun me if you remember this.
00:24:14
Speaker
It was on St. Patrick's Day. That's got to be 17. Yeah. I think it happens on the 17th. I don't think it happens. Is that 17 weeks into the year though? Watch 17th. No, that's 12. Wait, 12 weeks. It was episode 13. Yeah. Close. Somewhere in the teens. So that's a pretty good guess.
00:24:43
Speaker
Nothing that matters. No. Keith wants to know, have you hooked up the Bosch miter saw yet? Yeah, so Keith stopped by, not this past Saturday, but the Saturday prior. He bought a new miter saw, and he was getting rid of his, which is that Bosch axial glide. And we had been talking the day before about getting a new saw. I've been having a bunch of trouble with the Hitachi that we have.
00:25:10
Speaker
that replaced the DeWalt that we had, just, I don't know, the cut. We didn't like it. It bound up more than any saw that I've ever used in my life. Yeah. So Keith, you know, put up a post on Instagram, said, you know, I'm going to sell this off. Anybody's interested? And, you know, immediately just said it's sold. Bring it over. So actually, that's where the toolbox
00:25:35
Speaker
the Husky Toolbox that we bought, the saw is on top of that. So we ripped out what we had there, kind of got rid of a bunch of shit that was just accumulating and sort of taking up space, you know, more space and it was really justified for it. And it's good over there now.
00:25:55
Speaker
There's more room. We have more flexibility with the saw to be able to roll it out on that thing if we need to cut some that's really long because the wall is right there. So worked out pretty good. Yeah. Now we take a different approach with our miter saw than most cabinet shops probably most shops in general because we don't use the miter saw for
00:26:19
Speaker
like exacting types of operations where they're breaking stuff down the odd cut on a piece of plywood trimming it. It's like jig making and breaking down rough lumber. You got to cut.
00:26:33
Speaker
something rough, you know, something to rough length before you bring it to the table saw is going to run into something otherwise. So you got stuff stacked up on the 52 inch fence and it only goes over. You only have six inches on the right side of the blade and you need to then you cut it, cut it on the miter saw and then bring it over, trim two sides.
00:26:51
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So the whole idea of that miter station, which takes up an enormous amount of room in any shop, it just wore out its welcome in our shop. And we said, let's try something different. We got it up there on that toolbox.
00:27:05
Speaker
Um, it's a little high, but you know, we had, we had to make compromises with it before. Right. So that's the compromise this time. Yeah. It, it just, uh, I like it as far as checking out, like if I'm cutting to a line, I really liked the new height because it's a little bit easier to see instead of like kind of craning my neck around.
00:27:26
Speaker
Yeah, I've worked on miter saw stations, like stands on jobs. And the saw is like a like waist height. Right. Way too low. Right. So this is pretty good. And it's just it's it's nothing. It's the saw sitting on top of this large toolbox. Yeah. It was a forty six inches. Yeah. Fifty forty six. Fifty two. I think. Fifty two. These crickets, man. Yeah. They're they're into cricket season.
00:27:56
Speaker
We got the nice vacuum hooked up so the dust collection's pretty good. And the saw works great. We're waiting on our new blade. Yeah, I accidentally ordered a blade with a five-eighths inch bore for the arbor. I was totally not thinking.
00:28:16
Speaker
Well, it would have fooled me, too, because one of those things you just usually just order a miter saw blade, right? But then buy it from carbide.com, who's really, really good out in California. Another small business, the website circle like 1996. And you can you go, you choose like the application, you say what you're cutting plywood finish one side plywood finish two, whatever.
00:28:43
Speaker
and it'll spit out a list of blades that are applicable for what you're trying to do. And when I did miter saw, Arbor, 5A instead of one inch, just not thinking, you know, usually you go, if you're chopping a Home Depot, you just grab a Diablo, which you don't even think about it. Or even like Ridge or something like that, the chop saw sections, they'll all be, you know,
00:29:10
Speaker
But you know because this blade could be used on a table. So yeah, it's a nice blade. Mm-hmm like a hundred thirty dollar blade Everlast saw out in Kansas who bought rich carbide What is it a 82 I think it's at least 80. Yeah, there's a lot a lot of teeth on it. It's nice I mean you gotta have good blades. Oh, yeah. Yeah the
00:29:40
Speaker
Keith gave it to us with a blade on there, which I'm sure it's seen a bunch of use because he had this off for about a year. And I mean, it just cuts. It cuts rough. It burns its way through. Yeah, it's like difficult. It's like a laser cut. Yeah, it's difficult to cut.
00:30:00
Speaker
I forget, we cut something with it. We pulled down a piece of maple or something like that out of the scrap bin. Why does it smell like roasted marshmallows? Completely brown polished heads. Hard as a rock.
00:30:19
Speaker
So yeah, we have another blade coming, but we pay for the saw, not the blade. Yeah. The saw is working great. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I love that arm action. I don't know what you'd call it. I use that software years. Uh, yeah, they call it an axial glide. So it's like basically two perpendicular hinges articulated aren't like arms.
00:30:43
Speaker
So you could put it all the way against the wall. Yeah, basically. If you kept it at 90, you could keep it all the way against the wall. You only need enough room to swing it. So we have it like two inches off the wall. We've got a plug, of course. It's like right in the way. Yeah. We may be able to move that. I don't even think we could probably move that plug over to the to the wall with the joiner. Oh, yeah. In that power strip.
00:31:11
Speaker
So yeah, bolted it down to that toolbox. Yeah, I like it. I like it a lot. Can't wait to get a new blade on it. Oh, yeah. It's on the way. Well, yeah, because the toolbox is heavy enough. And with the wheels locked, it's essentially a stationary object. The nice thing about that Bosch is it has the extendable base. So you can cut like I cut
00:31:38
Speaker
that nine foot long piece of oak. It was like a two by three. Oh, for the calls. Yeah. Yeah. I cut it in half and it almost stayed. Both sides almost stayed flat. Like they both went up, but it was close. Like you can probably cut four feet on either side and and you're still good with support. Yeah. Like so we don't use it for much as far except for like roughing out stuff.
00:32:07
Speaker
Right. If we're going to have a day where a cut rough lumber that comes nine feet, 12 feet, whatever, we'll just put a roller stand and use it. Then we put it away. So that's cool. So thanks a lot, Keith. Yeah. I hope you're enjoying your K-PEX. Yeah, it must be nice. We'll take your hand-me-downs over here. Believe me, the idea crossed my mind to get K-PEX. Yeah. But I don't know for just rough lumber, really.
00:32:31
Speaker
We don't really call for it. If we had that K-PEX, then we'd want a station for it. We needed battery-powered K-PEX. Actually, that kind of ties into another question that we got. Look, the question of the week is still there. We didn't even have

Workshop Organization Day

00:32:50
Speaker
a question of the week. I got one for Manny. He gave me an extra question, and we'll use it. Oh, good.
00:32:57
Speaker
All right. So Justin DePombe on Instagram, you know, you can tell a lot about a person by the questions they ask you. Like we already know what Justin DePombe is going to. I got a bunch of other questions from the jokers that Justin knows omitted them from the podcast. Justin wants to know fuck off or clean the shop.
00:33:22
Speaker
Yeah, I laughed when I when I saw the question. It's funny because that was kind of the situation yesterday. Yeah. So we started building this wall unit, which is mostly just plywood, you know, veneer, two side, like double A plywood. We're going to veneer the actual doors with 16 inch veneer.
00:33:45
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And we really took it as far as we could because we need to figure out the finish because we really want to finish the insides of this thing before we put it together. You know, we have one finish on the back because a lot of it's open and one finish on the sides and the mids.
00:34:02
Speaker
Um, so really you gotta finish the inside at least before you put it together. Otherwise, cause it's going to be black and, and, and whatever. Clear basically black and clear. Yeah. So you get any black on that clear with Rubio, especially, you know, a, a, a peniture to finish your dump for it. And then it's plywood. So it's not like we can really say and throw it like we're used to. Um,
00:34:30
Speaker
So yeah, I mean we were done by noon with cutting all the parts, edge banding them, trimming the edge banding, sanding them, and you know, just getting them ready to cut the joinery in them. So we really didn't have anything to do.
00:34:48
Speaker
We got an email in from a designer about a vanity, so Rob jumped on that. And I'm like, I'm just going to go home or just sit here. So I just grabbed the thing, you know, first I clean, we cut all the edge banding with the plywood blade.
00:35:07
Speaker
So I took that. I cleaned all the glue off of it because it was like it was like the Diablo blade wouldn't even cut. I cut a piece of fur with it and it was like, you know, it was like trying to cut wood with a butter knife. So I cleaned that and then I waxed the dado saw. I'm like, I might as well wax the saw stop. Rob was sweeping up. I mean, that's kind of where we are. You know, because sometimes there's not really something for two people to do or we're waiting on an operation.
00:35:37
Speaker
We're pretty much the same way. Like it's that whole restaurant mentality, you know, the same lean, you can clean. So sometimes it just spend five minutes. That's all it is. Just sweeping up a pile here and they're not getting crazy about it, but just get some stuff out from under your feet, put things away, run, run a pale out to the dumpster. Cause that's easy to put off.
00:36:07
Speaker
just stuff like that. So, uh, there are days we'll, you know, like if the afternoon comes and we're tired or there's, you know, you don't, we don't want to start something fresh. We'll pick it up in the morning. We'll put on Clubhouse or something like that and listen. Yeah. I mean, there's plenty of times where you just put our feet up and, and, uh,
00:36:30
Speaker
I mean, you got to decompress sometimes for an hour or two. I mean, because it doesn't really, it doesn't matter in the scheme of things. I mean, all we're doing is just cutting into our profits a little bit. So it's a quality of life thing. It's one thing. If you're working for somebody, then you can't do that kind of stuff. No, when you work for yourself, sometimes you make the decision. Well, I worked six good hours today. Is it going to kill the project if for the next two, just kind of F off?
00:36:57
Speaker
I mean, we built basically that. We cut all the parts. They're almost ready to go together. Every piece is edge banded four sides. And we did that in half a day. And I got the bottoms glued up for the next three octagonal boxes. I'd say it's about a 75, 25. Yeah, we're a 25, 75 if you frame it with the question. There you go.
00:37:26
Speaker
Usually you try and find something to do, even if it's just, uh, you know, make a tool holder for your bench, whatever.
00:37:36
Speaker
All right, you want to read the next question?

Dream Projects in Craftsmanship

00:37:39
Speaker
Yeah, we got one here from TIFF, Night Carver Designs. We actually give her a little shout out. We're patrons to her Patreon page. So TIFF is like a sign maker. Really good. Yeah, it makes other stuff. She does CNC work. She also does stuff by hand with a router.
00:37:57
Speaker
You know like make a template glue it on there route stuff out by hand hand painting all that Really great stuff. So every month she She comes up with like a subject matter and all the patrons get to vote like it's it's horror movies this month ended up as Friday the 13th and then come up with like You know narrow it down to what specifically it's gonna be So it's pretty cool. So check her out if you haven't heard of her
00:38:26
Speaker
which is on Instagram, nightcarverdesigns. Tiff wants to know, what's a dream project that you've been dying to make but haven't had the time? I'll tell ya, I'll go big dream. I'm gonna go big dream here.
00:38:41
Speaker
My big dream is my charcuterie board. That comes after the coasters. You know, I've always wanted to make a timber frame house. And I did. I mean, I was part of a crew that made one from scratch and I've wanted to make one for myself.
00:39:10
Speaker
but you know, as the years go on, you know, you're racing against the clock. That's a young man's game. That's a good way to put it because you know, first off you kind of lose the whole oomph. Like I would love to live in like a cabin in the woods kind of thing, maybe not like full time, but how much time, you know, you got left. I don't think, uh,
00:39:38
Speaker
I don't think I'm going to be able to spend it up there. You're not going to do a Dick Prenicky? No, no. I would much probably at this point prefer buying or renting an apartment and taking some long weekends. I'm just going to get a time share.
00:40:03
Speaker
We spent two weekends a year. So, and I'm going to have to twist the haven't had the time. I just, I never got the time. It was something, you know, we, we can't do everything that we aspire to in this life. And, um, I'm reaching that point where, you know, you gotta come to terms with some of those things and it's not, you know, it's not going to affect me that much, but
00:40:27
Speaker
It would have been nice to have done this when I was probably I think I was in my late 30s when I went up to Maine and took part in that class that built the frame for a house.
00:40:43
Speaker
only somehow like you could probably relate to this. My idea was to build this timber frame in my garage in Brooklyn, you know, one beam at a time, label everything.
00:40:58
Speaker
and you know, store it all. Cause you store it just stacked up and I'd stack all the beams up in the, in the house and then transport it. No, I didn't get to that point. That was my, that was my plan. You know, because
00:41:17
Speaker
you know, there are companies that do that. They specialize in that, you know, their kit, right? Essentially. And they label everything. So I thought most of the times they do that, like they build it, they take it apart, right? And then they bring it back to the site, right? Because I mean, really, we're going to hand fit all that on site. Yeah, you can there for a year. Um, so
00:41:38
Speaker
That that was my whole goal was to build this thing and then that at some time in the near future I'd have myself a plot of land. But you know life gets in the way.
00:41:51
Speaker
Yeah, I hear that. It's not so much like time, because it's not really time that's our problem. We don't have any time to really do any of this stuff as like a hobby outside of work, because we're devoting so much time to it anyway that we got to do other things on our free time just to stay sane.
00:42:14
Speaker
I really want to build a set of chairs Wow six chairs eight chairs something like us, you know for a dining table Maybe build the table to whatever it doesn't matter. It's the chairs that I want to build You know, they say chairs are one of the hardest things to do. Well, yeah, I'm just I don't know really interested in the aesthetic of chairs and
00:42:35
Speaker
You know, it's different than a, than a cabinet, like the function of a cabinet really holds back the design sort of element of it, you know, of it. A chair gives you a little more freedom. And it's, it's just another opportunity to set up.
00:42:51
Speaker
a bunch of different processes. Try and figure out ways to set up efficient processes because you're making eight chairs. Let's say they got six spindles or something. Well, that's what's six times eight. That's 48 spindles that you have to make. So you've got to figure out a way to make 48 spindles.
00:43:08
Speaker
good, identical, and fast, which, as you guys know, I don't know. That's one of my things. Yeah, efficiency. Yeah. You know, it's interesting you bring up chairs because today I was doing a lot of reading on, you know, the different styles of furniture through the last, let's say, two centuries. And
00:43:31
Speaker
Chairs were used as an example and I want to say almost all of the you know, the the pictorial examples of what made this You know a Georgian or a Victorian and there's Windsor and Fife and and even Bauhaus. Yeah
00:43:56
Speaker
which like a super modern eclectic artsy kind of thing. They use the chair. Yeah. So you're right. It opens up the palette to so many alternatives and your personality and your ingenuity and putting a design together. Yeah.
00:44:16
Speaker
Well, you know, we're gonna be building you a kitchen one of these days. Oh, yeah We sure goes windows soon That's gonna be your kitchen because
00:44:34
Speaker
Um, that'll be an interesting thing because we'll have to, you know, deal with the realities of time and budget. And, um, you're going to have to make some choices as to, you know, how far you want to go with it as far as details and everything. And I'm going to be like your helper.
00:44:54
Speaker
but it's going to be it's going to be a lot of fun. I think you know because the cabinetry is the one thing I'm not worried about. Yeah. Yeah. We can everything else we can bang that that out and then you know with the doors and the drawers and stuff like that and the material choices.
00:45:11
Speaker
Yeah, my wife doesn't realize there's like $3,500 worth of plumbing that has to happen before. I know. Everything's just. I mean, this is what you do for a living. You can't just do this on the Saturday and Sunday. Until you give an opinion in another situation, they say, you don't do that. How many weekends should it take us?
00:45:36
Speaker
What do you mean we're going to pay somebody to do the sheetrock? You can't just do it? Yeah, let me just take off for a couple days. You know, my idea is to just shut down because for that time period and, you know, maybe in blocks of a week, then go back to work and shut down for so we could really get into a rhythm of coming in. Maybe we're doing
00:46:03
Speaker
10-hour days for a week and get some work done. I figure we'll build the boxes, you know, and then deliver those and then we'll get a progress payment. Can't wait for that progress payment. We'll do it, Tom. We can probably pull Manny Senior out every time and get unwrapped. Open up the hardware bags. I'm getting Manny Senior to come over and open up the bags of hardware.
00:46:30
Speaker
why are you even saying that? It's never going to happen anyway. Don't want to waste my time opening these bags. It takes all the fucking two minutes. I remember the first time when I was, when I first started working with Tom, instead of for him, we had made an arrangement where he hired out and paid for his finishing expert to finish piece furniture for me.
00:46:54
Speaker
So, you know, he gave me some addresses and instructions and I'll never forget the first time I walked in and the job was to put the polls and and knobs on a whole house full of cabinetry that was installed and it just struck me so hard because I would never ever deliver without the polls on it. It just never occurred to me that I think we're probably in the minority.
00:47:24
Speaker
Most people don't make that decision until the stuff is installed, unfortunately. Because it's so much easier to do it there in the shop while you're building. Right, even before finishing. Yeah, yeah. And it is a big pain. You're working on your knees in somebody's house, cleaning up after yourself. Yeah, you're making dust inside every little cabinet. I know, it was crazy.
00:47:52
Speaker
Yeah, I remember Santos picture came up today. I was in there for two days. Had six different widths of handles, knobs, another kind of knob. There's like five different types of hardware. Right, so paying your lead installer to spend two days
00:48:15
Speaker
you know, shimmying around in the kitchen, putting knobs on. You better make sure all the drawers are dead on before you start drilling them still because, you know, inset, there's no adjusting, adjusting those after the fact. That's right. So there you have it. It's our dream project. Yeah, I forgot what the hell we were even talking about. Your kitchen.
00:48:40
Speaker
That's your wife's dream. I'm thinking I'm just going to IKEA at this point. You go over to Jamie. He's like, hey, these are nice cabinets. You know, when you're over there, you're like, man, these are really good cabinets. This is some good value. Would you pay for these?
00:49:03
Speaker
Yeah, got that stack of plywood in the garage. You could probably sell it for a profit now. Yeah, exactly. That's six grand worth of plywood. It's like $2,500. Oh, man. I don't know if we ever talked about this.
00:49:22
Speaker
Cory is one of our patrons. He's a CT woodwork out there on the island. He's doing some good work out there, so you should check him out. He wants to know how he came up with the name Green Street Joinery. I think we may have talked about this at the meetup a couple weeks ago. At least I think I spoke to somebody about it. I don't remember if it was Cory or somebody else, but
00:49:48
Speaker
I mean, we were kicking around. I was still working at Tom's. And Rob was on his two week leave. I'm still on that two week leave. Time goes so slowly. We were trying to get things going and working all these back angles on jobs and getting in touch with people

Naming Green Street Joinery

00:50:10
Speaker
and stuff. So obviously, we're kicking around ideas of when we finally do start this company, what's it going to be called?
00:50:18
Speaker
We had a dozen or so names that we were kicking around. Well, we narrowed it down to wanting to include some sort of word like joinery, woodwork, something to signify what we did, of course. We didn't want it to be so ambiguous that people didn't know what we were. And then there's... I feel like most people have no idea what joinery is.
00:50:51
Speaker
at least not people in the know, people that aren't in the know. And then, you know, then there's the sort of like the adjective part, which for us became the green street. We didn't want to go with, you know, Jeff and Rob's, you know, that kind of thing.
00:51:09
Speaker
What were some of the other names that we had? We had someone with right. Yeah. Frank Lloyd Wright. Yeah. Wright was one of the words. And there was because like a right was also a way. Like the wood right. Yeah. The wood right shop. Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:28
Speaker
So we would try, you know, there's we were trying to be somewhat unique and distinctive without being like abstract. Right. Yeah. Because some of these names here just make like you're like, what the hell is that? Right. Like like the designer we work with. It sounds right. I don't know where they came up with the name.
00:51:48
Speaker
But Donnie Douglas design dogs. It's their dogs. Right. So it's a literate of it. It's it's nice to say. Yeah. Yeah. Green Street joinery. And and that's part of why we felt strongly about Green Street. Yeah.
00:52:04
Speaker
So the green is, you know, green and green. It's green as in sustainable. So that's sort of where green comes from. And then, you know, spelling it in the green and green sort of fashion was an homage to them. Right. With the threes instead of the two.
00:52:26
Speaker
I don't know how street just, I don't know how street got into it, but it was, you know, like sort of, you know, how there's a, you know, the avenue way deli and second avenue deli and that kind of thing. So there are avenue freezo.
00:52:46
Speaker
there's always that sort of name for a business. Yeah. Yeah. And it, it flows, you know, it's the E green street.
00:53:01
Speaker
whenever it came out, it just sounded right. And we would say, Oh, you could, you could name anything green street, you know, it could be green street bagelry. And it sounds good. There's actually a consignment shop or red bag green street. Yeah. Is there a green street in red bank?
00:53:20
Speaker
There might be. There's one right up here in Leonardville Road, right by Belfer Brewery. With the G-R-E-N-E. Wow. That's probably how most proper names were spelled.
00:53:40
Speaker
So that's it. It's a signifier, joinery, even though a lot of people don't understand that part. It sounds better than- It's more of like a British kind of joinery. Yeah, yeah. Like they call carpenters, or I don't even know if they're carpenters. They're joiners. Joiners, yeah. But I think a joiner is more of like a cabinet maker. Not so much a carpenter.
00:54:04
Speaker
And so we got that, you know, our little highfalutin joinery. And then we got our, you know, paying respects to our predecessors, you know, people we aspire to be. We look up to Green Brothers. And Street just ties is the thing that tied the name together. Green joinery sounds stupid. Right. Green Street. Yeah. So and Jeff came in with the sign, hung it on the shop. Yeah.
00:54:36
Speaker
We got a street sign says Green Street. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but, uh, I, I love the name. Yeah. It's a, it is a good name. And I, you know, uh, your mother-in-law did a great job. We, we wanted the tree of life. Yep.
00:54:53
Speaker
You know, it's also green and renewable resources and the other sort of philosophical meanings of the tree of life and all that. So that's part of our logo. Yeah. It just it just worked. It was sort of like a happy accident that we discovered this name by brainstorming. Yeah.
00:55:21
Speaker
Yeah, I'm trying to think of other ones that we kicked around. Yeah. They stopped. I hear people talking.
00:55:29
Speaker
I think like half moon Something was because wasn't that Henry Hudson's the name of his ship? He'd landed landed. There was something like that Yeah, we were we were diving deep into some connections to some of the people that you know were important to us or the area Yeah
00:55:55
Speaker
But yeah, that's how it went. We didn't want to name it after ourselves. Yeah, I mean, there's Thomas Charles. I just gave away the big secret. Yeah, Green Street it is. Yeah. I don't know if people caught that. Probably not. No, that just went right. I know one person who did. Or three.
00:56:23
Speaker
So there you go. Um, so we're going to move on to this, uh, next to last question. This is from, uh, uh, our, you know, we describe everybody kind of the same way and, but Manny truly is a really great friend of ours and one of our patrons to Manny mistakes on Instagram.

Imagining Future Cordless Tools

00:56:44
Speaker
He says, what's a cordless tool you hope becomes a reality and what's a cordless tool you wish they'd improve upon?
00:56:53
Speaker
What the hell were we talking about before, something cordless? Vestool. Oh yeah, a cordless Capex. I think they might be coming out with that. That would be something else. Because we're, I mean, we're all set up with Makita. Yeah, Makita is our battery platform. But, you know, for site work with Dust Collection and Capex sliding, blah, blah, blah.
00:57:22
Speaker
Somebody comes out with a good tool, you know, please consider. Yeah, cost is never an obstacle for us. I think they will go without lunch for a month. Yeah, I think they they teased the idea and maybe they have it in Europe, but it doesn't look like they have it currently.
00:57:44
Speaker
I thought they were coming out with a small, like an eight and a quarter, or a seven and a quarter cordless, but maybe that was like an April Fool's thing. So yeah, I mean a cordless Capex, that would be cool. That's a fine saw for the job site, cutting crown molding and stuff like that. We're not going to be doing heavy cutting on site. We're going to be cutting, you know,
00:58:11
Speaker
Filler material to to the length stuff like that, you know, if you have floor to ceiling kind of filler or something Yeah, and we have a nice job site table saw for doing anything. You know, that's called upon in that arena
00:58:29
Speaker
What about anything anything that's out there that you wish they'd improve upon? Well, I guess another I'd like to see a cordless Makita belt sander. Oh, because I use a grinder if I have to do any sanding like that. But, you know, having a belt sander doesn't hurt. That's pretty good. Yeah. Improve upon.
00:58:53
Speaker
You know, the nailers are still like, eh, not great. I haven't used a ton of them, but I'd like to see better nailers. They could somehow make them smaller. Yeah. You know, like the, even the 18 gauge, I have the Grex, which is the smallest, but
00:59:10
Speaker
You get into the battery powered 18 gauge nailers, they're huge. Yeah, that's where I'm going to pick it up. And on the improved upon part, I'd love to see across the board improvement in the size and weight of the battery. I know that's just a technology thing in general, nothing tool specific. But if they could make the jump down from, let's say, like an 18 volt power source,
00:59:40
Speaker
equal the size and weight of a 12 volt currently. I would say that would be the biggest improvement I could hope for because small tools like the router, although it's pretty well balanced. Imagine that with just, you know, like a small battery in the top. The glue, the hot glue gun. What else?
01:00:08
Speaker
You know, I think a lot of this stuff, they are going to the 12 volt. It's just the runtime is not, you're not going to get a great runtime.
01:00:15
Speaker
Yeah, you know for us and for me particularly I'd sacrifice some runtime if we can if the power Yeah, feed maintained itself like those 12 volt Bosch They're never gonna have I mean those ones specifically that I'm sure they could change the technology But like those you can't put a hole saw on that thing. No, it doesn't Yeah No
01:00:40
Speaker
The impact is pretty good. Yeah, but the The drills just seem to lack power and speed like they seem like they don't they don't go as they don't rotate as fast as a yeah full-size drill No, they don't they don't The other improvement I'm gonna ask for is in those Bosch which are our little shop the 12 volts and
01:01:03
Speaker
they don't stand up like that style of 12 volt. They've managed to shrink the battery down, but the, the, their choice of styling the handle and everything, they have those who stand. Oh, and they stand up. Yeah. That's it. That's, that's what I liked. Yeah. They have like 6.0s. Those are 1.5s that we have.
01:01:26
Speaker
Okay, they sell a 6.0 here a picture. Yeah, let me see a picture of that and they have like a flat Makita Milwaukee has them like that, too Yeah, that's why you see like Makita and DeWalt have gone to a 12 volt that looks Almost identical to the 18 volt, but they're just like scaled down. Let's say they're like three-quarter scale Bush
01:01:48
Speaker
That's the thing I don't really enjoy about those Bosch that we use. I mean, they feel good in the hand. They're really easy to use. Okay. Nice flat bottom on there. 6.0. Think of how often we charge the 1.5s or 2.0s, whatever the hell you are. Never. You charge this thing once a year. I know.
01:02:12
Speaker
Huh. There you go. Yeah. The drills, especially when you're working at your bench, I could see like if you're on site and you're on a ladder or something like that and you're kind of holstering the smaller swimmer profiles better. But for bench work, I, I like that it would stand up.
01:02:37
Speaker
I mean, one of the things I like about that Festool that I have, that old style Festool,
01:02:45
Speaker
I guess I have to be in the mood for it. Cause you know, it's that thing stands up completely. I don't know what you call that pistol grip thing. You know, it's, it's that funky Festool CSS. Yeah. Um, but I use it when I'm working on my electronics and stuff like that. It's really handy cause it's, you just grab it. Yeah. Um, it kind of stands up easily on its own. Excuse me.
01:03:13
Speaker
I can't think of anything that I want cordless. That's not already available.
01:03:22
Speaker
because if it's big I don't really need it to be cordless yeah I don't know a cordless Makita table saw I know we have the saw stop yeah but I guess you know if we were working on sites like up in Newark where there was no no power yeah then I'd have a different concept of what was needed
01:03:44
Speaker
like the things that like we're getting a cordless vac we got a big cordless floodlight they make that they have what was I about to say fans and everything it's all cordless
01:04:06
Speaker
Yeah, I mean if we were out there working more on site I could see wanting some of those bigger tools. Yeah, but basically all the hand tools They're already there. Yeah, right. Although the I I don't know about the belt sander. That was a good one rigid makes one I know that but yeah, that's the only one. Yeah It's more like brand specific now because like
01:04:31
Speaker
Somebody's got that tool probably like you get a Milwaukee or a DeWalt table saw mm-hmm, but I don't want to start mixing in these oh yeah No, we I want one bat. I won battery. That's it. Yeah, I don't care if this one's a little bit better than that They're pretty much the same yeah, I'd love to see a unification and a battery and then let the tool makers fight it out on the tool That's a dream isn't it
01:05:01
Speaker
Yeah. Like, why would you buy a DeWalt over a Makita if all batteries worked? That's not gonna happen. Then you'd have to make your tool better instead of just relying on the fact that somebody's already got, you know, three other tools. Yeah. Because, you know, that's what Ryobi did.
01:05:26
Speaker
They came out first with, I mean, Ryobi are these low budget homeowner tools, but they came out with this idea. We'll sell you this tool inexpensively and get you hooked like a drug addict on the battery platform. Yeah. They got everything now. Yeah.
01:05:50
Speaker
coming to a job site near you. If you see a guy show up to your job and he's carrying all this stuff in a home or bucket and you see some lime green sticking out, guarantee he's got a cigarette hanging out of his mouth.
01:06:06
Speaker
Yeah. You might want to rethink your choice and contractor jeans like the light brown work boots. Probably got a wife beater tank top on. Yeah. And especially if he's wearing like one of those bandanas that are tied in the back.
01:06:23
Speaker
like over top of the head, not like on the forehead. Yeah, over the top of the head and tied in the back. And if it's one of those that are like meant to, like it's a pre, a hat bandana.
01:06:38
Speaker
Oh man, we're deep diving into the stereotypes now. I'll remodel your bathroom for $3,500. I do tile, trim, paint, plumbing, electric, heating. License? I got driver's license. I know somebody at the town. You don't need a license for that. That's for sissies.
01:06:59
Speaker
no permits no problem yeah no did we just did we just alienate anybody if it took till episode 50 they got some pretty thick skin yes that's the guy we won't even talk about what's going on on the truck oh he'd believe me i was thinking
01:07:28
Speaker
You know, it's so funny when I was driving over here today to studio B, there was a commercial pickup, a truck, a pickup truck with commercial plates and his company, you know, decal on the side of the truck and all on the back window were all these ultra political and you know, very,
01:07:53
Speaker
Well, what's the word I would say inappropriate in some circles like you wouldn't say these things. Yeah. In front of your mom. So in that kind of thing, it's like, this is, this is bad messaging for me. I want to be neutral. Right. There will be no virtue signaling of any sort on the green street van. That's right. Oh, speaking of the van, we're picking up the van tomorrow.
01:08:21
Speaker
Oh, yes. I can't believe we didn't mention that. Yeah. Yeah. It's the day has come finally. Uh, I, I mean, for me, I mean, it's, it's a big day. The real big day is picking it up from the wrap.
01:08:38
Speaker
It's still just half the half the thing to get that big white van. I don't know. The rap guy didn't sound too confident this morning. Yeah. So we call the rap guy today. So you remember, we didn't pay you half. You got a 50 percent deposit. Right. He's at our money now. We called him. He's like, oh, well, yeah, you get the van and maybe I'll come take a look at it.
01:09:06
Speaker
We have a design confirmed design. It was very, there was a market lack of enthusiasm on his part. I'm going to say, yeah, it's got an email from O'Shea. They say they got white Oak. Hey, so what happened? China stopped buying.
01:09:26
Speaker
Oh, actually, yeah, they were out of White Oak. Yeah, yeah. It's back in stock. All right. Well, we're actually running longer than I was expecting on this six question show. What's this question of the week you got? We'll rattle that off. We'll save that for the Patreon. I'm going to rattle it off. I'll read it verbatim from Manny.
01:09:46
Speaker
Too many mistakes. He says, he asks, if the demand for Green Street keeps growing, do you guys see yourself expanding? I load a question. I like it. There you go. So hit that in the Patreon, the after show question of the week. Yeah.
01:10:08
Speaker
What'd you think about the beer? It was great. I thought, you know, it was, to me it was, um, it's not as, uh, in the stout, uh, game, not as good as the Guinness for me. Uh, you know, I like a Guinness more. It was a little bit, I'm going to say with respect to Guinness, it might've had a little bit more character than a Guinness. It absolutely does.
01:10:34
Speaker
Guinness is like groundwater. Yeah. But you know, it's like, you know, when you have this irrational like for something. Oh yeah. That's, that's what it is with me and Guinness. Um, so maybe I didn't want to like this as much as I did. Yeah. Um, but you could see it was gone pretty early on in the episode. I liked it. It's definitely has like a burnt sugar kind of taste. It's like bready.
01:11:02
Speaker
Pretty good. Yeah, I like the burnt sugar characteristic. That was the biggest thing that stood out to me. And they don't give it a storyline like a lot of the other beers. No. Now you had... Is it hidden in this fine print? You had what was it called? Sour...
01:11:24
Speaker
Slush punch? Slush punch over the weekend. Yeah, I had one of those on Saturday. And that may be our favorite beer to date. You know what I did? I put ice in it. Really? That's like sort of blasphemous when it comes to beer. But I could see it with that one. Yeah, and it was good. It was so cold. Oh, man. Yeah. It's almost like not even drinking beer. Imagine that in like a really heavily frosted glass.
01:11:48
Speaker
Even that's not enough. You've got to put ice in it. Yeah. And then drink it before it gets watered down, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, the beer has got to be so cold that when you put the ice in it, it's like, yeah, it's not even going to melt. Yeah. So it was good. Um, they don't do, I guess we'll, uh, ordinarily we might check on slack tides, uh, page and stuff like that, but we're, we're looking to get on to our, uh, running a run out of time over here.
01:12:18
Speaker
Yeah. So we're going to say goodbye for this week, except for the Patreons. We'll see you on the other side. Yeah. All right. We'll see you guys next week. Episode 51. Ciao.
01:12:44
Speaker
Ain't no shame, but there's been a chain