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Episode 166: "The Woman In The Yard" WAS TERRIBLE!!!
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Tommy has his brother Joseph on this week to review “The Woman In The Yard”! This episode was a lot of fun and the boys had a blast recording it! We hope you all enjoy it and we will talk to you later!!
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Transcript
Introduction and Co-host Absence
00:00:00
tommy cresta
Welcome everyone to the Popcorn Podcast. welcome everyone to the popcorn podcast i'm tomyresler the one host of the show ryan is still not here cause ryan hates me but i have another guest today i talked about in the other episode i'm having my brother on to talk about the woman in the yard the new and figure out what studio did this movie new universal pictures is harm also done by blu male and joseph how how you doing I'm doing good. I finally got you on the show. i know. I wanted to do Nosferatu, but it wasn't allowed.
00:00:32
tommy cresta
no No. You want to do the drop? The what? Drop. What is that? The movie that was about the girl getting the text on her phone about it. No. won't be seeing that Are you going to see Clown in the Cornfield?
00:00:46
tommy cresta
Maybe. In Acornfield? It's actually getting good reviews. You should see it. am I am. Ryan was like, you've made me see so many horror movies, you're going to go watch this movie with me. I want to see Bring Her Back.
00:00:58
tommy cresta
That was the trailer we saw yesterday. Like the ritual preview one. Oh yeah, that one did look good. That was a good trailer. It had like the noises. You got to see Talk to me can't haven't seen this movie yet. Yep.
00:01:11
tommy cresta
Well, Joseph, being a first time guest, what's your favorite movie? Oh. I don't give anyone info that I'm going ask this question. Um, okay, only one.
00:01:24
tommy cresta
Yeah, favorite movie, not movies. Actually, for Grace, I said favorite through top three right now. Like, what are your top three movies right now? Right now, it's probably Batman Returns. It's like an all-time favorite.
00:01:39
tommy cresta
Good Will Hunting, amazing movie. And
00:01:47
tommy cresta
Phantom of the Opera. good that That was Leon Grace's list. Great movie. I like that we both have a superhero movie that was panned in our favorite movies. Yeah.
00:01:59
tommy cresta
Yours is better regarded than mine is. The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Oh, God. and I mean, I like it. But it is critically not high.
Film Production and Critic Consensus
00:02:11
tommy cresta
um So The Woman in the Yard is, as we said, new universal horror film. It was also produced by Blumhouse.
00:02:16
tommy cresta
Jason Blum was also attached with as a producer. I just want to say, Jason Blum, if you're listening to this by any chance, or if they slid you my script yet, from friends of ours that work at Blumhouse, did my scripts better than this movie.
00:02:28
tommy cresta
100%. My ending makes sense. i wasn't looking No one's going to be watching my movie halfway through looking at the only other person in the empty theater asking, do you know what's happening?
00:02:41
tommy cresta
um This film came out on March 28th, my birthday. It was directed by John Collette Sarah. We'll get back to him in a second. currently has a 44 on Rotten Tomatoes, 5.6 out of town IMDb, 44 on Just Watch, with an audience score of 45. Wait, how does it have 44? But they're both 40... 44. They're both 45s.
00:03:02
tommy cresta
Oh, the Minecraft movie just says drop down. ah It's no longer at fifty I want to see it. I'll end up going. Freaky Tales? Is that like a sexualized VeggieTales? No? I never heard that. Warfare's sitting at 93, that military one I was saying. you Yeah. ah Critic consensus. The woman in the yard has plenty of spooky promise in its premise and committed performances from Daniel Deadweiler, but the story's heavy-handed metaphor leaves little room for scares or surprise.
00:03:29
tommy cresta
Yeah, the main girl was really good. and She was. She was the... I thought the kids were actually pretty solid. the one The little girl was a little questionable, but... But she was a little girl, so I feel like... it's kind of like Yeah.
00:03:42
tommy cresta
I really like I thought the young son was good. ah yeah he was really He had a lot to do. how We'll
Director's Previous Works
00:03:48
tommy cresta
get to in a second. but John Colette Serra. He's most known for directing House of Wax and The Orphan.
00:03:55
tommy cresta
Sorry about my dogs. They shouldn't pick up on the mic, but they are. um He's very well known for doing horror movies. House of the Wax and The Orphan are two of the best early 2000s horror films. He also did Black Adam, Jungle Cruise, Unknown. He did Carry On, which is actually really good from 2024.
00:04:10
tommy cresta
The commuter, not good. Nonstop, not good. Run all night, not good. But then did The Shallows. If you haven't seen it, I know Blake Lively is kind of controversial right now. Love that movie. this was joseph I saw this right before we went to Florida when we saw the shark in the water. lay right The day before we left. Yeah, I haven't seen that.
00:04:28
tommy cresta
Me and Matt Quill. It's the best shark movie since Jaws, in my opinion. Really? What about 47 meters? I do like them i like that movie. I like the first one. Yeah.
00:04:38
tommy cresta
Have seen the second one? No. They fall even deeper, but somehow make it out. That's so stupid. So, yeah, recently, not... Carry On, though, has I think has really good reviews, doesn't it? Is this him directing it?
00:04:50
tommy cresta
It was. Carry On has an 87. This is that... It was a Netflix movie, but people it was really good it's It was like a Christmas... Oh, Sophia Carson. Like, thriller movie. kind Kind of cool.
00:05:02
tommy cresta
It was really good, though. He's like TSA, and he actually has to, like... Oh, I remember the trailers for this movie. Yeah, it was really good. um But besides that, he really has had some mediocre movies or recently. like Black Adam.
00:05:13
tommy cresta
Black Adam. Was Jungle Cruise good? I enjoyed it. Oh, really? Yeah. It wasn't bad. Like, good family movie. Oh, it's in the 60s, too. So i guess it wasn't a failure. I didn't even know Jesse Plum was in the movie.
00:05:26
tommy cresta
Never watched it. You can't tell. You don't watch any new Disney. That's not true. I don't watch live-action remakes on Disney. But I will be this year. Have you seen Cruella? No. That's amazing Disney live action. And that doesn't even count, though. That's like its own story.
00:05:41
tommy cresta
Well, yeah, but like... I don't know. It's so good. Maybe will have to watch that one. I am going to watch How to Train Your Dragon. it's not Disney. Yeah, but what about Lilo and Stitch? I am going to watch that. Yeah.
00:05:53
tommy cresta
I don't watch Disney princess movies. That makes me sound like I hate princesses. You've never seen Maleficent? That was a good one. That's not a live-action remake? Basically. That's its own story. That is not Sleeping Beauty. yeah but they're never going to do a live-action Sleeping Beauty now that they did Maleficent.
00:06:10
tommy cresta
Bad idea. I didn't know those movies are not good critically. Which ones? Neither one of them. Maleficent? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. The second Maleficent did awful. didn't see that don't think you mean it made it any profit.
00:06:22
tommy cresta
I didn't even know that there was a second one until like two years ago. Yeah, Michelle Pfeiffer. She's in it. She's in it? Yeah. Oh, I'm watching the second one. She's like the main villain. But Maleficent's the villain.
00:06:32
tommy cresta
No, mu you learned in the first one. I know. I saw the first one. Mom was obsessed with that movie. Yeah, she still is. Oh, yeah, she was Maleficent for Halloween. Yeah. um So quick
Plot and Themes Discussion
00:06:44
tommy cresta
synopsis. Oh, it does have a 65 on Google.
00:06:47
tommy cresta
this like that really quick um the critic can set ah little ah the synopsis of the film uh ramona becomes crippled by grief after her husband dies in a car accident leaving her to care for her two children alone in her rural farmhouse her sadness soon turns to fear when a spectral woman in black appears on her front lawn warning her today's the day as the mysterious figure creeps closer and closer to the house ramona realizes that she must protect her children from the evil woman who simply won't leave them alone If only the stories seem that simple. Towards the end.
00:07:18
tommy cresta
Yeah, so I know that, like, i know she's, like, depression. The woman. But why would she want to hurt the kids because of the depression? She is depression? That's what I think it is.
00:07:31
tommy cresta
Or she has depression. No, like, the woman in in the yard is depression. Oh, oh, I know Ramona isn't! What would I think the actual character is? Um...
00:07:41
tommy cresta
complicated tale of depression, fear, and dark thoughts. But she didn't want to harm the kids. Psychological thriller with an inner emotional tension. But she was having the visions of hurting them.
00:07:57
tommy cresta
But that was harming Ramona by her having those visions. Oh, like psychologically? Yeah. ah Because she wasn't actually holding her, she was holding Can I these scenes?
00:08:08
tommy cresta
Yeah, we're spoiling this movie, so if you guys want to go see it, Don't go. That's your choice. Go watch and then come back. um yeah You can talk to that. I'm going keep reading this.
00:08:19
tommy cresta
Well, the one scene, she's like holding the little girl. I forget her name. oh And she picks up a knife and tries stabbing her.
00:08:31
tommy cresta
But then it switches to her holding a pillow. And I think that's just... Like, the lady in the yard tricking Ramona to make her feel, like, harmful.
00:08:45
tommy cresta
Like, not, like... Like, she doesn't actually want to hurt them. It's, like, you more like a vision. Like, she doesn't want to hurt the She wants to... Harm herself. Or, not fame. Harm onto Ramona. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:56
tommy cresta
Um... No, yeah. That was the only scene that scared me. When she stabbed the girl. Like, it sounded like a chill down my spine really quick. I like, ah Yeah. Yeah. I can't think of any. I don't think there was any other scare. I mean... ah Watching her her walk around, was it was creepy when you would see her. like Yeah. Like, in the background stuff.
00:09:13
tommy cresta
I thought, like, just like the character with the thing over her face, like the lady, was just scary. ah Just sitting there. Yeah. But then they kind of ruined that. By taking veil off.
00:09:27
tommy cresta
It was just like a normal... ah Just normal woman. Yeah. Admit that she really... What happened night she died? She tearfully shares that David, she told her she was the unhappy. She looked at David and her eyes pulled to the of mirror. She saw the effigy of the woman. In that moment, the car appeared crashing, blah, blah, blah.
00:09:43
tommy cresta
Ramona acknowledges... I saw... schoolwa Yeah. I knew that it was going to jump scare right before the car accident because that's a big horror thing. um Yeah, she wanted out of the marriage. The woman accepted that she appeared again when Ramona prayed for strength that morning, getting out of bed.
00:09:57
tommy cresta
It wasn't the strength to live that she was asked for, but the strength to let go of the rest of her life, which was making her desperately unhappy so she wanted to die yeah she wanted to die that I knew that i did and
00:10:10
tommy cresta
knows she's being a terrible mother and can't continue function that way inspector of death is what she's really calling for when that woman appears one of her deepest fears of holding back her children's lives and said let it lay no way do anything to she says bye to them one last time doesn't run I'm gonna go to the chair blow the braps around her and gum in the back She Annie's penguin on the ground. She submits into her anguish in the shadow, reflection of the two women.
00:10:32
tommy cresta
We see the women meld into Ramona's shadow, and then the camera goes wide in the farmhouse. ah Wind rustles through the dry laundry, and there's no blast sound of the gun.
00:10:45
tommy cresta
flash, and she gets up and goes... she doesn't You never actually see her get up. She just walks out. Yeah. All of a sudden. please and then probably has love show alloon to Yeah, What does that Well, in the... they're going to explain what they think it means.
Theme Analysis: Mirrored Scenes
00:10:57
tommy cresta
In the... Earlier in the movie... I know, like the little girl was right in the...
00:11:01
tommy cresta
went without um and they go inside in the camera so pushes the windows to room and ah so she has a beautiful nely finished self porch with a greenhued texture flying a sheer veil over her face in their signature ah crimson color it's reed in the bottom curve and backwards i've seen what does that mean well in the beat oh and they're gonna explain what they think it means in the earlier in the movie i know like the little girl was writing the thing backwards.
00:11:24
tommy cresta
Well, yeah, like, the girl kept writing the letter backwards, but when she went into, like, that other world, when she first saw the husband, all the wording was backwards. Like, she looked at the picture, and it was, like, a portrait, and it had Ramona at the bottom, but it was backwards. Yeah, it was written backwards. She started, like, looking at the time was backwards. Everything was backwards.
00:11:46
tommy cresta
So, I don't know if that was her looking into the past too much. Like, she was living in the past. she was like But then the guy tried killing Yeah, that's why I don't understand. oh I think it's more like a Coraline situation. They're like, it's different world.
00:11:58
tommy cresta
And I think that's where they ended up at the end of it. Hmm. That's what I'm getting. So Sci-Fi says, if you're glass half full kind of purse, you can interpret the ending of 2B Ramona's reward for beating the woman and not succumbing to come into her darkest thoughts, impulses of suicide. This is now the mirror life where she knows she will continue to have to fight her depression even if it man fails as a woman again.
00:12:19
tommy cresta
But she'll be prepared and now she can healthily commit to her children. And they their growth together in the house. I think they should move. First off. two if you're glass half empty kind of horror fan.
00:12:31
tommy cresta
Then the other equally plausible endings. That the woman and Ramona became one. And they took their own life. Believing that she is the worst threat to her own children. And a drain of their potential. Ramona chose the bleak path of killing herself so her children can bloom into the happy, successful adults the one proselytists they will become without her influence.
00:12:47
tommy cresta
It a tragic and extremely dark but stays true to what the woman has always represented to Ramona ever since she wished her family was not her life anymore. So if she did die, then... Maybe that's like her heaven.
00:12:58
tommy cresta
okay. Oh, wait. Isn't the place called heaven? No, it's called... Haven. It's Irish. Yeah, the Irish Haven.
00:13:07
tommy cresta
I knew that's what they were going to name it. From the beginning of the movie. Yeah. have sound Well, that didn't really explain to me what happened. Yeah, the ending was very confusing. No.
00:13:19
tommy cresta
What I did like about the movie, similar to Long Legs, how they did like the devils in the background, I liked that you saw the women in the yard's shadow like throughout a bunch of the scenes.
00:13:32
tommy cresta
I agree. I think that that was the, the movie was its best when it was super simple. There was just a creepy woman outside who, when they're not looking, was getting closer. And I thought that's how they were going to play into it. But then it became like something about the, what first off, I thought she couldn't move in the dark.
00:13:47
tommy cresta
like I was confused about that. But then the attic, she can only the dark. Yeah, because maybe it was because the sun went down and now she's just everywhere. Now the dark is good? i don't know.
00:13:59
tommy cresta
Because, like, they were running through the, ah like, main floor, shutting all, like, the blinds and stuff, and she wasn't able to get in because it was, like, all dark. Yeah. I don't know. I'm still so confused.
00:14:11
tommy cresta
um special Yeah, it's late just her depression just in a manifestation. Hmm. I just want to know what... I don't i don't understand the ending still.
00:14:22
tommy cresta
I want to know how they all end up back together. Because she sends the kids away because she is going to do it. She's just going to take her own life because she knows that she's holding them all back. Well, based off of like this stuff, it seems like it's just open for interpretation.
00:14:36
tommy cresta
Kind of like how Florida Project ended with not like a specific Yeah, it's not an actual... It's kind of like just whatever you think happened. Whatever you think happened. but And if that's like this, it's stupid because it's too confusing to make up my own end.
00:14:52
tommy cresta
Let's hear what the vulture said, Joseph. ah The twist in the woman of black is a new low for trauma horror. Spoilers ahead. The true reason why the name of Jamie Lee Curtis saying trauma took off because she said it funny and the words pronounced trauma.
00:15:08
tommy cresta
i'm Sorry. Halloween, blah, blah, blah. Babadook. Bioduk's a good horror movie. It's scary. It is. It's like Insidious. Like how it's filmed and stuff. Yeah. Um... First Jackson, blah, blah, blah.
00:15:21
tommy cresta
gonna try to show a as it turns out. Blah, blah, blah. ah It's a metaphor. the potatowi but Okay, so it's a grief metaphor. Would have been predictable as a twist, but still preferable to what the woman in the yard gives us instead. A deeply troubling portrayal of mental illness that makes Ramona's depression a violent monster.
00:15:39
tommy cresta
Deadweller gives the kind of committed, lived-in performance we've come to expect from her. While director Jamal Klet Sara manages some creative camera work. I don't think. Okay, that's what I'm talking about. I hated the camera work.
00:15:51
tommy cresta
There were so many. They're called like Dutch angle with cameras a little off centered. Yeah. I don't like those. I didn't mind it. I liked when they would do like the like continuous shot and like flip it. yeah I liked all that, but I don't like how every... like I like straight... ah they but the like the It was pretty, like the sun, like how the shadows came through and everything.
00:16:09
tommy cresta
All that I really like. i just there's That just makes me think of Transformers, because half the Transformers movies are filmed like that. I mean, ah didn't have a problem with it, but it was nothing. like Amazing. Yeah, it nothing that we stuck out to me.
00:16:25
tommy cresta
Um... all All the more impressive, ah given that the film largely takes place during the day, with the titular woman sitting calmly on a chair, but the real talent involved doesn't change the way this the climactic scene lands, with Ramona and her shadow self jointly guiding the shotgun under her chin.
Critique of Depression Portrayal
00:16:41
tommy cresta
Depictions of suicide are not beyond the pale in horror, of course, but there's something particularly thoughtless about this execution. The film seems to relish in punishing Ramona. She's an unreliable narrator and a danger to her kids and husband.
00:16:53
tommy cresta
We learn that she was the one driving when the accident happened. and she was kind of And she has conjured this monster into their lives with her wish that someone else could be strong for once. The woman in the yard becomes dangerously close to equating suicide with selfishness. oh that is that i was watching and thinking this is the worst depiction of depression.
00:17:12
tommy cresta
Because it it was making it seem like depression is a selfish thing. like You're making that decision for yourself. Which people I know people do look at that way sometimes, but that's not these people think that there're there's nothing.
00:17:22
tommy cresta
They're not trying to be selfish in them. They don't think it's selfish when they're doing it. ah As we see Ramona in the flashback telling David that she. um Sorry, ah telling David she's always doing things for other people and never for herself.
00:17:34
tommy cresta
ah We had this vision of a perfect life and I just couldn't live it. She later says it's hard not to feel like the movie is putting blame on Ramona when so much of its ah reveal hinges on her being the true threat. An ambiguous ending only further sours the film.
00:17:48
tommy cresta
A story of Ramona overcoming the monster slash suicidal ideation would have been hacky and reductive, but it would have least shown a clarity of purpose. Instead, the woman in the yard decides not to commit, stopping short of showing Ramona killing herself and then presenting a happy ending that's heavily coded as not being real.
00:18:11
tommy cresta
After sending her kids away, blah, blah, blah, da, da, da, da. We end on Ramona's painting, a sign she's found and created again. But then there's a slow zoom in on her signature. Ramona is backwards. Does that mean she's embraced and accepted the darker parts mind? Or is a bleak reveal that she did the deed? In the context of the strangely idyllic final scene, it feels much more like the latter. The mirror world is associated with the woman. It's where Ramona steps into her shoes. So it stands to a reason Ramona might end up trapped there after letting the woman fulfill her purpose.
00:18:42
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:18:45
tommy cresta
I agree. Yeah, me too. But that's not trapped. How's that trapped? She seems happy. The kids are there. That'd be like a heaven. when oh no. She doesn't want the kids. That's horrible. Her hell is being in a house with her children.
00:18:59
tommy cresta
Without her husband. She didn't want to be with her husband. The whole movie is just... Oh, my God. I have in my I'd say all messed up. The movie's so sad. It's unlikely it will escape the trauma of horror completely, even though horror...
00:19:13
tommy cresta
ah Even horror that's not about China tends to be traumatic, but the woman in the yard represents a new low. Its laziness is especially egregious given the sensitivity of its subject matter. On paper, there's nothing here that should be untouchable.
00:19:24
tommy cresta
Horror is a genre ripe for ah envelope pushing, and that often includes exploration of uncomfortable themes. Without the requisite thought and care, though these themes land as empty provocation, um or as the case is here, a cheap narrative shortcut. Ultimately, this metaphor deserves a better movie. So does Deadweiler. So do we.
00:19:44
tommy cresta
That was actually a really good final like thing. I thought I'd explain that. Because they are like big topics, but then it was just done awfully. Yeah, like it was a cool... The concepts there, like the idea for the movie, like there's something with the depression all that that you can do.
00:20:00
tommy cresta
This just wasn't the right movie. no Just like how I said, Emilia Perez, there's a movie out there, ah better version of Emilia Perez. like That story, like that isn't there could be some there is something there, it's just the movie they made is not it.
00:20:13
tommy cresta
um
00:20:16
tommy cresta
I don't care for anything about that No, like I'm saying the story about the actual person. It's about a real person? Yeah. I'm saying her story.
00:20:28
tommy cresta
think it's about real person. In my head at it is. Maybe we should fact check that. Let's see this actually. That's not how you spell it. It doesn't matter.
00:20:42
tommy cresta
There is. No. Oh.
00:20:46
tommy cresta
Oh. Well, there's a better movie about this book. Okay.
00:20:53
tommy cresta
A drug kingpin who wants to transition, but the character wasn't fully developed by the author. ah As for the rights to expand the character story, the film tells the story of fictional Mexican drug trafficker who leaves behind her life of crime for becoming a transgender woman and activist.
00:21:06
tommy cresta
Huh? Okay. Who leaves her life behind of crime for becoming a transgender woman.
00:21:13
tommy cresta
When I think it's just trying to be... Oh, because it's saying like she is now a woman. yeah Also, music? Terrible in Emilia Perez, first off. Terrible. terrible AI used to.
00:21:27
tommy cresta
Really? Yeah. ah but yeah Oh, the woman here was a different ad. um I like this guy, Russell Hornsby. He's a good actor. What else is he in? Anything I know?
00:21:38
tommy cresta
BMF. ah Lincoln Heights. He's in the Mike Tyson documentary. and documentary ah It's like a Hulu series. Not very good seeing as Roy Tyson. This was good though. Fences.
00:21:49
tommy cresta
Denzel Washington. Big Fat Liar. like He's always like a side character. Creed 2. But he's always really good as like these side characters. yeah Meet the parents. else but like You know what I mean? like He's one of those side characters. Every time he acts, he's very good in the role.
00:22:06
tommy cresta
This kid's in Percy Jackson. Oh, really? I think I've never seen Percy Jackson. think he's like a main character in the show. You watch the show? Oh, you don't watch TV. Yeah, I don't watch TV shows. It makes me mad.
00:22:19
tommy cresta
Just so you guys know. He just doesn't watch them. Oh, he was in The Heart of the Fall. That was good. You should watch that. It's a movie. Okay. It's a ah cowboy movie, but it's super like... It's kind of like stylish, like how they film it.
00:22:31
tommy cresta
It's really cool. Do you like any Tarantino movies? ah Uh... Like, you know how he does like... Kind of like flashy style? Yeah. You like Baz Luhrmann? Yeah.
00:22:41
tommy cresta
That's like his whole thing. It's kind of... Imagine if Baz Luhrmann and... wasn't a fan of his Great Gatsby. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't like that movie. I'm shocked. I feel like that that's what you like. I like Elvis, though.
00:22:54
tommy cresta
That was a great movie. Imagine if Elvis and a violent, like, darker movie combined to be a Western. It's kind of like flashy, quick-cut, cool music, but at the same time, it's still Western.
00:23:06
tommy cresta
But it was super violent, like, bloody. Wait, hold on. Who's in this? It was like an insane cast. um Yeah, Jonathan Majors. Oh! oh Tania Deadweiler. ah Zaza Beetz.
00:23:18
tommy cresta
Idris Elba. Laquise Stanfield. I mean, like it's like yeah Regina Hall, Dion Cole. ah This guy, he's playing Mr. Terrific. Eddie Gatchy. Mr. Terrific's so cool.
00:23:28
tommy cresta
Super smart billionaire. But yeah, was directed by a music guy. It was really good. That's a good cast. You should watch It's very good. I didn't watch it in theaters because I was like, oh it's not gonna be good.
00:23:40
tommy cresta
And I watched it here. I was like, oh, damn I missed out. was actually really good. Got nominee for Oscars. Really? I think picked it for um best screenplay. boom But yeah, so this has a good cast around it. It is kind of crazy. This movie only has five people in it.
00:23:54
tommy cresta
Yeah, it is crazy. Because they mention the neighbors and stuff, but never actually in it. Oh, this girl's in other movies already. How old is this girl? She's... That doesn't say there.
00:24:09
tommy cresta
This girl's a really good actress, too. um ah She was really good. The woman in the yard. Blazer. I mean, she's in a ton of things. Agatha all along. Oh, she's in the new Exorcist.
00:24:21
tommy cresta
The Mike Flanagan one. The guy who made Haunting of Hill House. I thought you meant, like, the last Exorcist. No, not the Exorcist. You really didn't like that movie. didn't think was bad. hated that movie. I only hate it because of the ending. I think it was an enjoyable... I think they should have leaned into that the girl dies.
00:24:38
tommy cresta
She did die. No, she lives. They bring her back, remember? Well, the one dies and the one lives. No, I thought they both live in the end. No. Yeah. No. They do.
00:24:49
tommy cresta
No. They... thought they both end up living. thought it was like happy ending in the The one... one living at first, and then the other one dies.
00:25:01
tommy cresta
But then think... Oh, like switches, right? Yeah, then think it switches. Oh, that was... Then that was the part I think I liked. I like sad... I don't think there should be happy endings in horror movies. Horror movies should have sad endings.
00:25:13
tommy cresta
Yeah, Mike Flang is there. If you guys like Haunting the Hill House, he said it's the scariest movie he's ever worked on. He swears the set's like haunted. I hope it is. Oh, she's in I Am Legend? Very good.
00:25:25
tommy cresta
You seen that? Uh, yes, I have. Do you like I Am Legend? Um, I don't really remember. How do you not remember that movie? That's like one of my... Dad made me watch it, like, a long time That's like one of my, like, all-time, like, favorite Guilty Pleasure movies.
00:25:40
tommy cresta
Mine It's vampires and zombies combined. With Will Smith and a German Shepherd. Mine's The Florida Project. That's not a Guilty Pleasure. That's a Best picture nominated movie.
00:25:51
tommy cresta
I thought like a movie that like you just like. No, Guilty Pleasure is like mediocre to bad movies that we love. Like, I mean, Spider-Man 2 would be my number one Guilty Pleasure. It's a bad movie. 2016 Suicide Squad.
00:26:04
tommy cresta
You do love that movie. You love it more. You think it's better than the other one. More enjoyable. Yes. I like the characters better. Deadshot. The best scene in the new one is when they kill the entire ah camp and then they find out they're good. yeah Mom was sitting here crying laughing.
00:26:21
tommy cresta
Yeah, that was the funny scene. This is what always happens. Any scene with the weasel? Weasel is so funny. You need to watch Creatures and Commanders. No. Why? you're not going to understand stuff. I don't watch shows. But it's Lee setting up the new universe. Did you say they said Batman's going to be in the Clayface movie? it's good like a cat Like a small part.
00:26:42
tommy cresta
Like, ah a new Batman for the DC Universe? Yeah. Okay. When does Clayface come out? Uh, 2006. Mike Flanagan wrote it. Oh, actually? It's a body horror movie.
00:26:53
tommy cresta
Oh. Like, R-rated, super low budget. Well, I mean, for Clayface, it probably should be. Yeah, it should be a horror movie. Yeah. let's Let's read some audience reviews. Well, what would you get? Skip. Four out of five.
00:27:04
tommy cresta
Issa Smith, I don't want to see. This is definitely someone that was in the movie. This was fantastic. Shut up. No, it wasn't. um Where's my list of movies? Where's my... Where's my movies? Oh, wow. It's been a while since I put a movie on here.
00:27:18
tommy cresta
um I think they liked it just because it was different. The plot is unlike anything I've ever seen before. No, it's not. There are other movies that once the movie, like, it all played out. There's better versions of this.
00:27:31
tommy cresta
Midsommar is like the same thing of this. It's all about grief. I've never seen Midsommar. What? I've been meaning to. I'm so happy I didn't just spoil the movie for you. Yeah. Well, I think I already know what happens. but um What would you give this movie, Jizo?
00:27:44
tommy cresta
I voted it on Letterboxd. It's out of 100 we do on the show, Jizo. Oh. Come on now. Out of 100? What
00:27:56
tommy cresta
what do you give it? 33. Okay, I was thinking 30. I didn't know if that was too low. That would officially make it the worst movie I've seen so far this year. I'll give it like a solid 36.
00:28:07
tommy cresta
thirty We're going to adjust to this for once. 36. Got more enjoyment out of it than i did. Oh, it come down a little bit. I got to make Ryan watch this now because we need to see if he stays in between our near our numbers.
00:28:22
tommy cresta
i think he'd hate it. Oh, Ryan is mean to movies. Wait, this person had... Oh, they have a lot to say. Okay, no, I'm not reading this. I'll read the... Damn!
00:28:36
tommy cresta
Just, damn. Five stars. If you gave this five stars, you've never watched anything. Wait, want to see what they said. The five stars? Yeah. Wait, I want to read this one. Oh, he gave it a zero out of ten. Okay, wait, I do want to read this. This is actually funny.
00:28:49
tommy cresta
Adronicus Azarill. I'm sorry if I said your name wrong. um If you want to skip the Woman in the Art movie review, bit of a rant at first. i the well Man, I am so glad that everybody is finally coming around to see that Blumhouse for the shitty studio they are and that Jason Blum is one of the biggest coattail writers in Holly we heard right about now. Blumhouse has got to be, if not the worst movie studio in the industry today. No, that's Disney.
00:29:15
tommy cresta
But in ah in the case of the for the horror genre, they are definitely not the worst. Lionsgate so much worse. Lionsgate a terrible studio. If you've looked at like what they've made in couple- Neon's been really good neons always Neon and A24 have been great for years. They just finally gained bigger movies.
00:29:30
tommy cresta
um I love Blumhouse. Blumhouse gives i mean they give people projects. like They let people be creative. Night Swim, I know it wasn't good. like but that was like ah like The fact that they let them make that movie. We liked Imaginary. I loved Imaginary.
00:29:45
tommy cresta
I thought it was such a fun movie. don't agree with that part. ah I'm not going to read. no no like I'm going to skip over this part. I don't like when people rip on people like this. ah This is actually ah when you have a horror piece like The Substance. That's an absolutely incredible film.
00:30:00
tommy cresta
Incredible. Strong stretch. yeah The two actresses and Dennis Quaid. Awesome. Love them. I thought Dennis Quaid was hilarious. The ending wasn't good. I thought the ending was... Me and Sam could not stop laughing at the ending. As soon as it gets to mention that the Oscars laugh because horror films to them have always been looked at. Satire and piece of human feces like Blumhouse gives... Blumhouse has good horror movies.
00:30:21
tommy cresta
Blumhouse is probably some of the best horror movies. They have Conjuring, Insidious, Halloween, and then all the Halloweens. Two of the Halloweens are very good. Can pull Blumhouse's films?
00:30:32
tommy cresta
yeah Let's see go through them see how many of like the top horror movies they've done. ah Mainstream horror itself. Okay, so you delayed. You didn't talk about the film at all. ah It's what's not with Hollywood, but mainstream horror genre. So exactly like every other demonic. First first off You can't rate review the movie and then not know it's not demonic possession.
00:30:54
tommy cresta
Yeah, it has nothing. It has nothing. But I will say, this last line is very funny. Zero out of ten. Jason Blum can eat corn the long way. ah will make It will make hate yourself and stop watching horror movies for the foreseeable future. No, it won't.
00:31:10
tommy cresta
I know The Woman in the Yard is not good. It's not that bad. That guy may just sound like it was the worst movie that's ever come out. Yeah. It can't be worse than Snow White. A 1.6.
00:31:23
tommy cresta
That is crazy. yeah like they Get out. and make I know you didn't like Megan, but no Cam. Hush. don't know. Nanny. I saw Nanny. i went Wait, what does Nanny have? 90.
00:31:34
tommy cresta
That makes me happy. what you do I saw that. That was the Amazon first time i got to go to screening with them. Totally Killer is good. Speaking of Evil is good. I didn't think it was as good as a lot of people thought was. I never ended up Freaky was good.
00:31:47
tommy cresta
That's the body switch horror. It's that it's Catherine Newton and Vince Vaughn. yeah they didn' Jason Blum gave that... Black phone? Yeah, like they have... That Halloween's amazing. Split.
00:31:57
tommy cresta
Yeah, dude, you have no idea what you're talking about. They got some bangers out here. Creep, 1 and 2. ah The Deep House? Okay. Is that good?
00:32:08
tommy cresta
It is such a weird... um So it's like in this ah lake that there's a house at the bottom of it. So these people decide to go down scuba dive to it. But there's like something in there. It is like found footage, but like there's underwater a lot. So it's really freaky.
00:32:22
tommy cresta
It's just a weird concept. but It was really cool. Gracie wouldn't like that movie. She's terrified of saying it's underwater. I'm not gonna I didn't think I was until I watched that movie. and i i She's scared of like animatronics and stuff like submechanophobia.
00:32:36
tommy cresta
So she's she's scared of Like the Jaws ride. I was going to or just Jaws itself. Oh, yeah. oh Wow. Enjoyed this film. For it to be rated PG-13, probably one of the best I've seen this category. Would call it a psychological thriller.
00:32:47
tommy cresta
I agree. But I would agree more. It's more of a thriller than ever is a horror movie. Yeah. um I thought it should have been rated higher because some of the for some of the R content. Some of the better work from Blumhouse, the ending was definitely PG-13, though.
00:33:04
tommy cresta
I just... right. I don't think half these reviews are good reviews. Like, i think of these, like, are bad. First off, jump scare. There was... First off, i don't there's one... I think there's one jump scare in entire It's the car crash. Yeah.
00:33:17
tommy cresta
Because I wouldn't even say that when she stabs the bait the kid. It's not a jump scare. You see it happening. Yeah. I was surprised I was in a PG-13 movie. Yeah. going to lie. thought this was radar.
00:33:28
tommy cresta
Especially, like, with those topics, I feel like. Yeah, I ily thought going into his radar, I just now realizing it's a PG-13 horror movie. Another no-no most of the time. I really like the poster, though.
00:33:40
tommy cresta
Poster is awesome. That first trailer was cool, too. yeah The short one. Once they released the long one, that's why I got a little nervous.
Horror Film Structure and Conclusion
00:33:46
tommy cresta
I mean, her the character of her is super cool. Yeah, like that she can use her shadows. It's once she took off the veil and stuff.
00:33:53
tommy cresta
yeah it's Horror movies have this exact thing. There's three acts in a movie. If a horror movie can land all three, If they can all be a 60 or higher, it's a good it's a good horror movie.
00:34:05
tommy cresta
If they can be good enough. This one went from like a mid-80 to a 60 to a 30. You know this movie that Ryan didn't even give a score, he just gave a thumbs down on how much he hated it?
00:34:19
tommy cresta
oh wait, you were telling me. I don't remember. It was Megapolis. He laid chest on his front of thumbs down. He's like, if this doesn't deserve my score. I went on a ray on that movie. I told that I said that I hope Coppola, every time he gets to out of bed, steps in gum and falls. so i said I hate that, dude. You know, he gave his own movie five-star on Letterboxd. Actually? Yeah, actually. I mean, if I was a director, I would too.
00:34:41
tommy cresta
You can't give your own movie a five-star on your own account. that you're like I would. I give this movie five-star because I made it. thats lee would. be I You've got to be confident in your own work. Not in that. That movie's terrible. You should try and watch it.
00:34:55
tommy cresta
Watch 30 minutes and tell me he deserved to give himself five stars. You know what movie you made me watch that was terrible that you won't agree with? Ghost. A ghost story. That's not a terrible movie. It's sad. Stupid movie. I don't want to sit for 15 minutes watching a lady eat pie.
00:35:13
tommy cresta
It's seven minutes. She eats the whole pie. I know, and then sits and cries. I don't need yeah and then rose up and don't need to see the whole thing, though. Yeah, you do. That's the point. It's sad.
00:35:23
tommy cresta
It's people in their uncomfortable moments, Joseph. I was uncomfortable. That's the point. Yeah, and then I skipped. How would you feel if you just walked in the house and mom was sitting in the kitchen just munching down hole by?
00:35:35
tommy cresta
I'd probably go somewhere else. You put headphones on to walk upstairs. You're like, okay, whatever. But, oh, oh my god, we talked for 35. I thought it was going to 20 minute episode.
00:35:48
tommy cresta
Well, is there anything else you want to add to the woman in the yard? um terrible. Don't see it. Don't waste your time, money, energy. I think I should start bringing you on for horror movies.
00:35:58
tommy cresta
What's the next movie we can review? don't know. You have a lot things. What else coming out? Did you see shoot that? Hell of a Summer. It's like a horror comedy. Finn Wolfhard wrote it. I don't know.
00:36:09
tommy cresta
I don't really like horror comedy. Really? Well, no. The scary movies are funny, but like... You should watch The Blackening. I wanted to see that. I saw it in theaters. Really? Was it good? It was one of my favorite movies of the year. It looked really funny.
00:36:21
tommy cresta
ah it It is genuinely hilarious. And it has really good scares. Oh, actually? Yeah. The next horror the only thing about scary movies. I was like. Oh, Until Dawn.
00:36:35
tommy cresta
don't know what that is. It's going to be terrible. Based on video game, but it's not following the video game idea at all. Damn, we don't really have a lot of horror movies coming out. That's sad. Sinners, I guess.
00:36:46
tommy cresta
Oh, yeah. But you're not that excited for that. Unless i'm really horror. It's it's vampires. What do you mean? Like, it wasn't scary, like the trailer. I thought trailer was creepy.
00:36:58
tommy cresta
I didn't like that their eyes glowed. That was my only problem with the vampire design. They, like, glow a little bit. I think they're just, like, all white. No, they're, like, gold. What? Yeah, like a pale gold, but they, like, shimmer when the light hits them.
00:37:11
tommy cresta
It's the only problem I have with the whole movie, the trailer. I'm not a huge fan of Michael B. Jordan. I know. I'll take, but... Yeah. Wasn't he in that movie? He's in a lot of movies. Um...
00:37:24
tommy cresta
I thought like the wrongfully committed wrongfully accused. Oh, Mercy? you Just Mercy, yeah. yeah That was a good movie. Was that high school? Yeah. Oh. I liked him in that.
00:37:36
tommy cresta
i I thought it was college when i did that. um Well, Joseph, as in every episode, what's your recommendation to everyone to go watch? This is only me online forever.
00:37:48
tommy cresta
um
00:37:51
tommy cresta
ah The Blackening was actually my last one.
00:37:55
tommy cresta
What's a movie I recommend? Can I look at my list real quick? Hold up. One minute. Un momento. Un momento.
00:38:07
tommy cresta
ah I get the black and the 87. ah That's pretty good.
00:38:14
tommy cresta
What am I doing recommending a film? yeah ah Mid 90s. Good movie. Great soundtrack. Good soundtrack. Yep. Great soundtrack. Great soundtrack. I'm sorry. Come on now. Yeah, that's it It's pretty good. I love mid-90s.
00:38:30
tommy cresta
Me too. I'm going to go with my favorite movie of 2023. Go watch Past Lies.
00:38:37
tommy cresta
I didn't watch that. Really? Oh, that's the one you cried to. Yeah, when I thought it was an empty theater and I turned around just a bunch of... it was like 60 and over ah Korean and Asian people.
00:38:49
tommy cresta
let but No, because I think they were like... Because the movie's half the movie. It's in Korean. The film. They're from, like, Korea. Oh, that's not what I'm thinking about then. Hold on. Oh, you're thinking of the Andrew Garfield one? Yeah. Which I also sobbed at. my God. What is that one called?
00:39:05
tommy cresta
We Live in Time. Oh, yeah. this was the... If I showed you the poster, I think you'd remember it. You'd know it is. But I just... I laid thoughts on the part. I turned around... And it was just, all the Asian people were like staring at me. Because you know how the one KOP is where like there's the big theater, but there's like the upper seats? Yeah.
00:39:19
tommy cresta
They were all up there. I didn't see them when I walked in. I like cried and I turned around just... Who'd you go with? No one! I thought was in the entire theater by myself! That's embarrassing. Just in the middle of the theater, just sobbing. I mean, loudly sobbing.
00:39:35
tommy cresta
yeah that's embarrassing. What did Ryan give that movie? No, that was not that movie. Ryan gave it a 90 and Ryan's a cynic. Ryan hates happiness. but
00:39:50
tommy cresta
ah ah Well, yeah. Thank you everyone for tuning in to another episode of Podcast. Joseph, thank you for coming on. so do you have a good time? Yeah, I've been trying to get on for years now. It's only been a show since 2021. Yeah, and I've been asking since the start.
00:40:05
tommy cresta
You've seen Super 8. Super 8. Does the 80s better than Stranger Things. Don't say that. It does. I stand by that. I've never seen Super. You should watch it really good.
00:40:16
tommy cresta
It's like like an alien movie. hate alien movies. You actually don't know if it's an alien. I hate all alien movies except for E.T. Top 25 movies of all time. That's what you should do with me. I mean, oh.
00:40:32
tommy cresta
That's not what I meant to say, but I do mean E.T. But I meant Stitch.
00:40:37
tommy cresta
Well, same thing. No! No! I think you should that's what you should join for. i'm go to I want to go im gonna go on like People's Magazine and stuff. like The but main, probably three, IGN, People's Magazine, or Rotten Tomatoes, INDB, and be in that. I'm going to find like the top 50 movies of all time, like the average, and I'm going to watch them and I'm going to rate them.
00:40:57
tommy cresta
I'm going to actually make like what I think is the 50 best movies of all time by People.
00:41:02
tommy cresta
Okay. I actually have a book in there. thanking Yeah. That's my one. What if you're... oh It's fine. it's in I still got time. um yeah Thank you everyone for tuning in to another episode. Make sure you check out TikTok, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube. Make sure to continue messaging us. It's always fun to talk to new people.
00:41:24
tommy cresta
and Just we'll be back to review another movie or do a rankings episode with me. Yeah. I hope. Maybe I'll come back. Bye everyone. See ya.