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Episode 174: Ranking Top 10 Horror Villiains feat. ESP Golf TV
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This week on The Popcorn Podcast, Tommy and Ryan are joined by the crew from ESP Golf TV for a killer crossover episode you won’t want to miss. Together, they dive deep into the shadows to rank the Top 10 Horror Villains and Monsters of all time — from slashers and shapeshifters to the nightmare-fuel icons that haunt our screens and imaginations. Expect bold picks, hot takes, and a whole lot of laughs as film meets fairway in this horror-themed showdown. Lock your doors, turn down the lights, and get ready for some spooky fun.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Introduction
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tommy cresta
Welcome back everyone to the Popcorn Podcast.
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Ryan
Welcome back to one of the podcast.
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tommy cresta
I'm Tommy Cresta.
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Ryan
I'm Tommy Cress, but of course, alongside me is my coach, Brian Grant.
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tommy cresta
Of course, alongside me is my co-host, Ryan Ferran. But we have a very special guest today.
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Ryan
We have very special guest today.
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tommy cresta
we have Esteban from ESP Golf.
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Ryan
We have Esteban from ESP Golf.
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tommy cresta
i took I decided not to go with the last name because I know to say it wrong live.
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Ryan
I decided not to go with the last name because I know I'm going to say it wrong live.
00:00:14
ESPGolfTV
I appreciate the tag.
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tommy cresta
but
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Ryan
but
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ESPGolfTV
Oh,
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tommy cresta
But yeah, welcome to show,
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Ryan
But yeah, welcome
Esteban's Film Interests and Episode Theme
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tommy cresta
man.
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Ryan
the show, man.
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tommy cresta
We are got in contact about a month ago about doing some content together.
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Ryan
We got in contact about a month ago about doing some content together.
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tommy cresta
And then you came back to me and told me how much you love film.
00:00:24
Ryan
And then you came back me told me how much you love to film.
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tommy cresta
So I thought it wouldd be fun for us to rank these horror villains and it'd be just a fun episode.
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Ryan
So I thought it'd fun for us to rank these horror villains and it was a fun episode.
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ESPGolfTV
yeah. Oh,
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ESPGolfTV
I appreciate it. Thanks, you guys, for having me Yeah, I'm huge film now. sure we'll have some fun conversations today.
00:00:36
tommy cresta
So I wanted to ask just so everyone can kind of get to know you who listens.
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Ryan
So I want to ask, as everyone's excited to know you're listening, what's your biggest film
00:00:39
tommy cresta
What's your biggest film hot take?
00:00:42
ESPGolfTV
Well, I mean, I think Ryan already knows it, but I personally think that Batman v Superman is one of the greatest comic book superhero movies ever made, period.
Debate: Batman v Superman - Greatest Superhero Movie?
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ESPGolfTV
Point blank. I think it gets the characters Superman and Batman 100% nail on the head, even though I understand what you're going to come saying Batman doesn't kill.
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ESPGolfTV
I understand that entire argument, but i promise you have a counterpoint to every single thing that you do.
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tommy cresta
Hey, we'd love to hear it. Ryan, what would you like to would you like to counter him at all? think it's dog shambles.
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Ryan
I think it's dog shit movie.
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tommy cresta
No, I just think, I mean, I am
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Ryan
um
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Ryan
No, I just think, I mean, i am the type of person, I like Superman being light, you know, lighthearted. He's very, I don't like brooding, angry Superman very much. I love Henry Cavill. I think he looks the part, I mean, perfectly.
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Ryan
And I like Ben Affleck's Batman. Thought he was cool. Loved the costume, but I don't like Batman.
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ESPGolfTV
Oh, here's my second hot take. Ben Affleck's Batman is the best Batman we've ever seen on live action.
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Ryan
That's pretty odd, too. Yeah.
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ESPGolfTV
Batman.
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tommy cresta
That a hot take.
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Ryan
but
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ESPGolfTV
Now, I really want to clarify what I'm saying, Batman. And I'll even double down and I'll say Christian Bale is probably the worst Batman we've ever gotten. Great Bruce Wayne.
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Ryan
Yeah.
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tommy cresta
I don't hate that take.
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Ryan
i didn't I don't hate that either. I think he is the best Bruce Wayne because he just he has that suave, like, just...
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tommy cresta
think he has that.
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ESPGolfTV
Yes. 100% the best Bruce Wayne. Yeah. You got that.
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Ryan
Mm-hmm.
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ESPGolfTV
But I.
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tommy cresta
Pattinson, number one for me.
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Ryan
Yeah.
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ESPGolfTV
Who's number one?
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tommy cresta
I'm going to die on that hill. I love that take on Batman right now. I don't.
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ESPGolfTV
a Pattinson.
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tommy cresta
Yeah, and I know I'm going to be 26 when the second movie comes out, but by then.
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Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
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Ryan
but
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ESPGolfTV
Yeah. I'll be, I'll be 26. I'll 27. When the next movie comes out.
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tommy cresta
Yeah, Ryan's still a baby at 25 at that point.
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Ryan
yeah right
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ESPGolfTV
But.
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tommy cresta
25? Yeah. twenty five
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Ryan
yeah
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ESPGolfTV
Be nice.
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Ryan
yeah
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ESPGolfTV
No, I think Pattinson got a lot right. I wasn't a fan of his Bruce Wayne. a little too emo for my liking. I like Bruce Wayne. Like, we talked about Christian Bale has the perfect Bruce Wayne. He's supposed to be a cocky, arrogant asshole. Like, that that's who he is.
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ESPGolfTV
I think Ben Affleck got that right, like, especially in, like, the gala scene between him, Wonder Woman, that agent, Lex Luthor's, like, side take or whatever.
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ESPGolfTV
But I think if anyone here, I'm assuming both of you guys are huge fans of the Arkhamverse, I'm going assume was it i think Ben Affleck's Batman is the... Ryan's not a fan of the Arkhamverse?
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Ryan
no I like it I've seen most of it
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tommy cresta
He's never played it, right?
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ESPGolfTV
like Okay, okay, he's made fix.
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tommy cresta
I've seen most of it.
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ESPGolfTV
I just think Ben Affleck's Batman the best when it comes to them. if You saw the way he
Discussion: Most Important Horror Films
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ESPGolfTV
was fighting in that warehouse scene. Nothing ever comes close to
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Ryan
oh yeah the warehouse scene I'll give you all that it's the coolest shit like just beating those motherfuckers
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tommy cresta
Oh, yeah. The warehouse, you know, I'll give you all that. The coolest thing.
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ESPGolfTV
that.
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tommy cresta
Just feed those books.
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ESPGolfTV
That's the coolest Batman anything we've ever gotten live action.
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Ryan
Yeah, that scene rules.
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tommy cresta
Yeah.
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Ryan
Mm-hmm.
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tommy cresta
But yeah, so.
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Ryan
and
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tommy cresta
That's a great way to start the episode. We got some Batman knowledge in there.
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Ryan
and
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tommy cresta
Diehard Batman nerd.
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tommy cresta
But. That is not why we're here today. We're here to talk about the best horror villains and slash monsters because it can be a little bit hard to distinct the two.
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Ryan
but
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Ryan
and
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tommy cresta
But that's why you're a huge horror fan as we mean you got to talk about what think is the most important horror film in the genre?
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Ryan
ah one
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Ryan
what you think or
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ESPGolfTV
Important? That's a great question. Most important horror film in the genre? I'm gonna go with Exorcist. I think the Exorcist the most important horror movie.
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Ryan
Yeah.
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ESPGolfTV
I think for what it did at the time, personally, I rewatched it recently with my girlfriend and, um, dude, it still holds up. It's still super creepy. Like I, I still, I still get super creeped out just thinking about that movie.
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ESPGolfTV
And also like all the, the, uh, uh, what's it called? The rumors behind the filming, how like the sets burnt down like five times. So I think I'm going with most important, I go exorcist.
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tommy cresta
It's the perfect answer.
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Ryan
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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tommy cresta
i don't think there is another one.
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Ryan
<unk> that
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tommy cresta
It's that ah to me Jaws because I think Jaws just changed how I think about the ocean.
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Ryan
me mean
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ESPGolfTV
Good. 100%.
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Ryan
yeah oh
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tommy cresta
It made Steven Spielberg into the biggest name.
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ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
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Ryan
yeah
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tommy cresta
But I love that movie. and I love The Exorcist.
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Ryan
i
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tommy cresta
I mean it's the probably one of the first like great horror movies I remember watching.
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Ryan
and even the new one the mike flanagan remake he's doing
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tommy cresta
And even the new one.
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Ryan
everybody's saying that sets i two so it's just following
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tommy cresta
Yeah.
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Ryan
the name like
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tommy cresta
Poor Mike Flanagan. That dude can't get away from the scares.
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Ryan
yeah
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ESPGolfTV
Are you guys talking about Exorcist Believers or there another one?
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tommy cresta
Yeah, they're making a new one.
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Ryan
Yeah,
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ESPGolfTV
Really?
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tommy cresta
And it's following the like true adaptation a lot more.
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ESPGolfTV
That's good.
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Ryan
Mm-hmm.
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ESPGolfTV
I honestly didn't mind Believers too much. thought it was pretty good.
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tommy cresta
Yeah, I think my only
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Ryan
Yeah,
Personal Horror Film Experiences
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tommy cresta
issue as Believer was that I felt like they tricked you into a twist.
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tommy cresta
I was like, oh, the one's going to die. And then it felt like they did it twice. And i was like, well, that seems like it took away all the pain that I just felt for the family.
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Ryan
I was like, oh, one finally did it twice.
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Ryan
And I'm like, well, I see the other team that I just dropped the bad way.
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ESPGolfTV
oh yeah
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Ryan
Hey, it's better.
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ESPGolfTV
the engine was
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tommy cresta
Go block your camera.
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ESPGolfTV
i like that i think the ending is pretty sharp But, yeah, i it it threw me off a little bit.
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tommy cresta
Hey, it's better than i thought it was going to be.
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Ryan
<unk>s
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ESPGolfTV
i know, i mean, what do you think, kind of throw back at you, I know it's probably not part of the segment, what do you think is the scariest part of you've seen?
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Ryan
I mean, for me, it's still, but what is it called?
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tommy cresta
I mean, for me, it's still... Mm-hmm...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
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Ryan
Gojima Haunted Asylum. This Korean movie he forced me to watch.
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tommy cresta
korean
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Ryan
Because I'm not i'm not a huge horror guy. I like it more now, but a year or two ago, I never watched horror. Tommy loves horror and just forced me to watch a bunch of them. So I've seen a lot now. But we watched this movie together, and it was just, it was the scariest fucking movie.
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Ryan
Oh, my God. You were talking monsters. There's like five different ones I could have put on this list.
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ESPGolfTV
Oh, OK.
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tommy cresta
yeah just from that movie
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Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
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tommy cresta
um
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ESPGolfTV
Oh, it's on Tubi.
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tommy cresta
Yeah, it's for it's um it's on YouTube, I think, too, for free.
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Ryan
yeahs um it's all Yeah.
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tommy cresta
I'm not to lie, I think it's Paranormal Activity 3.
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ESPGolfTV
Oh, yeah, it is. Nice.
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Ryan
And it is, it's really good. It's not just one of those like scary to scary movies. It is a good movie, but it's terrifying.
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ESPGolfTV
Oh.
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Ryan
Yeah.
Modern Horror Films Analysis
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tommy cresta
That movie has truly left me terrified for my entire life.
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Ryan
and movie
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ESPGolfTV
How
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tommy cresta
Or Hell House.
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Ryan
or
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tommy cresta
Either one of those movies can...
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ESPGolfTV
House is dead?
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tommy cresta
I love Hell House.
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Ryan
yeah
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ESPGolfTV
Nothing has traumatized me more than sinister. I know sinister is one of those like either, oh, it's not scary at all, or oh, dude, it's the scariest movie ever.
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Ryan
Yeah.
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ESPGolfTV
If people have like opposite views on it. I watched it when I was 14 with my best friend and his mom had left for the night. So she literally left us with a pizza.
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ESPGolfTV
So it was in in like context, a summer night in high school, like it's the best night ever, right? You get free pizza and a movie to watch. watch this were' scared shitless for the next two months
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ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
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tommy cresta
That's a fair one.
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Ryan
Yeah, it's phenomenal.
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tommy cresta
Sinister is like one of those movies I love to rewatch though.
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Ryan
Yeah, let's talk about it.
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tommy cresta
Like I think I've watched it so many times because i the first time it's kind of like a long Blair Witch.
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Ryan
think first time how
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tommy cresta
It doesn't have the rewatchability of scares because you kind of it's a lot of like the slow burn horror. Which I feel like has a lot of horror these days. But Sinister is probably the best horror movie in the last 20 years.
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Ryan
but
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tommy cresta
Like dick just well made film. Scott Derrickson is the best.
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ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
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Ryan
yeah it's phenomena
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ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
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tommy cresta
um
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ESPGolfTV
It's terrifying.
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tommy cresta
But yeah let's hop right in the list.
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Ryan
yeah
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tommy cresta
Of course Espadon.
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ESPGolfTV
yeah
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tommy cresta
Esteban? Sorry about that. um You go first. What's your number 10 for best horror villain?
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Ryan
So if
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ESPGolfTV
This hot, hot take playing this guy so high up, but I'm gonna go Jason Voorhees.
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Ryan
I.
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Ryan
yeah
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tommy cresta
I'm so with your choice. i' am one of the biggest non-Jason people, sadly.
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ESPGolfTV
No, I'm not a big Jason guy. I mean, I can, you know, appreciate how important he is to the genre. He's probably the most recognizable slasher, but not a fan. I don't know.
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ESPGolfTV
Just never did it for me.
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tommy cresta
That's a good number 10.
00:08:33
Ryan
and then we'll tell you everyone as well.
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tommy cresta
That's a great way to start us off. Nice hot take out the gate.
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Ryan
There you go. Ryan, what are you doing?
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tommy cresta
Ryan, what about you? What's your number 10? I'm going with the apparently one.
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Ryan
I'm going with a very recent one. I'm going with Pearl from X and Pearl.
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tommy cresta
I'm going Pearl from The Fast. Not that stupid.
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Ryan
Not Maxine. Thankfully, she got left out of that movie because that movie stunk.
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tommy cresta
I didn't really check out that.
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Ryan
But those first two movies, X and Pearl, were fantastic.
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tommy cresta
But those first two movies had a horror fantastic.
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Ryan
And it was like seeing her as the old woman still be scary.
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tommy cresta
And it was like, seeing her to the world still be scary and then just seeing her origin story, Pearl was phenomenal.
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ESPGolfTV
Yeah. yeah
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Ryan
And then just seeing her origin story, Pearl was phenomenal. um And Mia God's performance as both the older and younger version, just fantastic.
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tommy cresta
And Media Gotham is where it says,
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Ryan
So I got Pearl as number 10. Very new one.
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tommy cresta
very
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ESPGolfTV
I like that.
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Ryan
Might be kind of a hot take, but I put her on the list.
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tommy cresta
Oh, that's a good one.
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Ryan
Yeah.
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ESPGolfTV
I love Mia Goff too, so anything with Mia Goff for me is a double thump.
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tommy cresta
I didn't.
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Ryan
yeah
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tommy cresta
um My number 10 is the man in the masks or the potato sack head guy from the strangers.
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Ryan
stranger
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tommy cresta
The stranger is my all time favorite horror movie. So to me, his, that scene where he's in the background behind, uh, what's your, Oh my God.
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Ryan
we got
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tommy cresta
What's your name?
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Ryan
liv tyler lift
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tommy cresta
Liv Tyler, when he's in the background but she's taking the sip of water, smoking a cigarette, that is ingrained into my brain.
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Ryan
and great
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tommy cresta
So every time home alone, I imagine he's standing behind me. So that had to put him right number 10 because I think there's still nine more that have terrified me even more in my life.
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Ryan
that right just
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Ryan
even more in that way. Yeah.
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ESPGolfTV
Dude, that's a really good pull.
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tommy cresta
But yeah.
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Ryan
Yeah.
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ESPGolfTV
I actually, it's funny you say that. I'm, I love like supernatural horror movies because it's, you know, you get, you have to suspend your belief in you're watching.
00:10:03
ESPGolfTV
Movies like Stranger, that shit creeps me to the bone.
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Ryan
Yeah.
00:10:07
ESPGolfTV
Right?
00:10:08
Ryan
yeah
00:10:08
tommy cresta
Yeah, sort it happens to people.
00:10:10
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, crazy. Yeah, no, that's a good pull. That's a good pull.
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tommy cresta
Yeah, now it's moving to number nine.
00:10:16
ESPGolfTV
Number nine, dude.
Ranking Iconic Horror Villains
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ESPGolfTV
Also, i mean, I would say maybe a hot take just because of how you know big he is, but would say Chucky.
00:10:27
tommy cresta
Wow, Chucky made your top ten.
00:10:27
Ryan
Wow. Oh, yeah.
00:10:29
ESPGolfTV
Chucky makes my top 10 because I like the series. I enjoyed watching the series mainly because of the girl from Parks and Rec, Audrey Plaza.
00:10:40
tommy cresta
Oh yeah.
00:10:41
ESPGolfTV
Love her. She's one of my celebrities.
00:10:42
tommy cresta
ah
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ESPGolfTV
She makes she made me enjoy Chucky more. Chucky does make my top 10. Um, but yeah, again, close to nine. Hey, man, would even say he and Jason entertaining to what the 10 spot.
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tommy cresta
That's fair.
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Ryan
That's right.
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tommy cresta
Hey, we're crossing up.
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Ryan
Yeah. We're going to take off the list first.
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tommy cresta
We're getting the big names off the list first. We're all gonna have bigger pools at the end.
00:11:00
Ryan
We've got bigger pools at the end.
00:11:03
tommy cresta
Okay, Mr.
00:11:03
Ryan
Okay, so what do we got?
00:11:03
tommy cresta
Foran, what do you got?
00:11:05
Ryan
All right.
00:11:05
tommy cresta
Alright, I got a real deal monster.
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Ryan
i got a ah real deal monster for my number 10. I have the monster from Cloverfield as my number 10.
00:11:08
tommy cresta
I have the monster from Cloverfield. Oh, okay.
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ESPGolfTV
Oh,
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Ryan
Kind of like a lot of people don't like that design.
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tommy cresta
Kind of, I don't like that design.
00:11:14
Ryan
I think it's cool.
00:11:15
tommy cresta
I think it's cool.
00:11:16
Ryan
Just like the long ass arms.
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tommy cresta
Just like the long-hand arm.
00:11:16
ESPGolfTV
yeah.
00:11:17
Ryan
And you clearly see like it doesn't want to attack anything.
00:11:17
tommy cresta
And he clearly seems like, he doesn't want to what's happening.
00:11:18
ESPGolfTV
yeah
00:11:20
Ryan
It just got – it landed in New York he's like, how the fuck do I get out of here?
00:11:21
tommy cresta
He's like, I'm fucking out of here. It's a, I think, really fun.
00:11:23
Ryan
Like it's – I think it's a really fun found footage movie.
00:11:24
ESPGolfTV
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:25
tommy cresta
And those little pumps that come off of it.
00:11:26
Ryan
And those little bugs that come off them.
00:11:28
tommy cresta
Yeah, that come off of it.
00:11:28
Ryan
Yeah.
00:11:29
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:11:29
Ryan
That's still that scene where the I forget her name, but her head just explodes.
00:11:29
tommy cresta
That's cool. That's where the, I forget her name. The one girl gets you.
00:11:33
ESPGolfTV
Okay.
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tommy cresta
explode
00:11:34
Ryan
Like, yeah, I like that movie a lot.
00:11:36
ESPGolfTV
But.
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tommy cresta
I like it a lot.
00:11:37
Ryan
So I'm putting ah I think people call him Clover is like the kind of name the fans gave him.
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tommy cresta
I think people call it Clover. It's the only Cloverfield movie.
00:11:40
ESPGolfTV
yeah
00:11:42
Ryan
But he doesn't have a name in the in the series. But yeah, it's the only Cloverfield movie to the other ones don't count.
00:11:45
tommy cresta
The it. Cloverfield movie is a movie, but just the end of it just throws something in.
00:11:47
Ryan
10 Cloverfield Lane is a good movie, but just the end just throw some in for no reason. And then the other the Netflix one doesn't that doesn't count.
00:11:53
tommy cresta
And then the other Netflix one doesn't. Is there a Netflix Cloverfield movie?
00:11:57
Ryan
Yes, dog shit.
00:11:57
tommy cresta
Yes, Dolce. Didn't even know that. That was a thing.
00:12:00
Ryan
I forget what it's called.
00:12:01
tommy cresta
They're making a new one.
00:12:01
Ryan
Oh, really?
00:12:02
tommy cresta
A direct sequel to the original.
00:12:02
Ryan
Sweet. That's the one. Yeah. Yeah. ah really
00:12:05
tommy cresta
Yeah, and I think Matt Reeves is doing it.
00:12:07
Ryan
so
00:12:08
ESPGolfTV
He'll get to that in 2035.
00:12:10
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:12:10
ESPGolfTV
No. What's it called? I know 10 Cloverfield Lane and the Cloverfield Paradox were both scrapped.
00:12:17
Ryan
that's the one
00:12:17
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:12:19
ESPGolfTV
we're not going to do with clover field and the studio bought them and remade it into a Cloverfield movie, which is why they feel so disconnected and just make no sense.
00:12:22
Ryan
yeah
00:12:28
Ryan
Yeah.
00:12:28
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:12:29
Ryan
J.J.
00:12:29
tommy cresta
JJ just keeps buying scripts just growing.
00:12:29
Ryan
Abrams just keeps buying scripts and just throwing Culverfield in.
00:12:33
tommy cresta
Really?
00:12:33
Ryan
Really? Yeah.
00:12:33
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:12:34
ESPGolfTV
Every single episode is the same
00:12:34
tommy cresta
ah hate you j I didn't know that there was a third That's crazy.
00:12:34
Ryan
Just those two movies. didn't know that was a good one. That's crazy. Mm-hmm.
00:12:40
ESPGolfTV
universe.
00:12:41
Ryan
Ryan's been playing my other way.
00:12:41
tommy cresta
Ryan's going to hate my number nine because he hates this character.
00:12:42
Ryan
He hates his character.
00:12:44
tommy cresta
It's Volek from The Conjuring World.
00:12:44
Ryan
It's following. They're not very well.
00:12:46
tommy cresta
she
00:12:46
Ryan
She almost made my list.
00:12:46
ESPGolfTV
No that's so high.
00:12:50
tommy cresta
I love, I'm sorry, I love Volek.
00:12:50
Ryan
I love it.
00:12:51
Ryan
I love it. I love it. I've seen in the number two when the door opens and says Warren's house.
00:12:53
tommy cresta
The scene in The Nun 2, when the door opens and it's Warren's house, that's exactly how my upstairs and my house steps.
00:12:58
Ryan
see back
00:13:00
tommy cresta
So every time I get to the top, I'm like, God, if I turn and Volek's just at the end of this hallway, I'm jumping right back down this flight of steps.
00:13:02
Ryan
like to I don't have to acknowledge that it's bad.
00:13:09
tommy cresta
But...
00:13:09
Ryan
But,
00:13:09
ESPGolfTV
You know, 102, top three for me all time to get horror movies.
00:13:13
tommy cresta
Really?
00:13:13
Ryan
really?
00:13:13
tommy cresta
Really?
00:13:13
ESPGolfTV
Usually number one most rewatchable horror movie for me.
00:13:16
tommy cresta
I love The Conjuring, too.
00:13:16
Ryan
I love the kind of, I just watched her late on the video, they don't tell them that's the voice.
00:13:17
tommy cresta
I just watched it late on cable the other day. That's how invested I was.
00:13:21
ESPGolfTV
I love that movie.
00:13:21
tommy cresta
Commercials and all.
00:13:21
Ryan
Yeah.
00:13:24
Ryan
Yeah.
00:13:24
tommy cresta
So, yeah. But I love her.
00:13:24
Ryan
I didn't even know it.
00:13:25
tommy cresta
She was six when I first did my list.
00:13:26
Ryan
She was sick when I first didn't realize, and then she slowly got down.
00:13:29
tommy cresta
And then she slowly got pushed at it down. i couldn't put her um outside of the top ten. And I couldn't put her at ten. So, she's at number nine.
00:13:36
ESPGolfTV
Are we doing a thing where we can't say the same thing or can we still say the same one?
00:13:39
tommy cresta
No, no. We can still say the same thing.
00:13:40
Ryan
Yep. Yep.
00:13:41
ESPGolfTV
Okay, cool.
00:13:41
tommy cresta
it's I like doing that because then we see like the difference in everyone's opinions.
00:13:41
Ryan
um
00:13:45
ESPGolfTV
Okay, nice. Yes. She on my list. a little Later on though. um Is it me again?
00:13:54
tommy cresta
Yep.
00:13:54
Ryan
ye
00:13:56
ESPGolfTV
Number eight, I'm gonna go, I have like three that I wrote that i wrote down, but I'm like stuck between, i don't know where to put them just know they're all like seven
00:14:10
Ryan
Yeah.
00:14:12
ESPGolfTV
let's cool Let's go Freddy Krueger. Let's go Freddy Krueger.
00:14:15
Ryan
Oh yeah.
00:14:15
tommy cresta
Iconic character.
00:14:15
Ryan
Yeah. That's a good one. Mm-hmm.
00:14:16
ESPGolfTV
I love Freddy.
00:14:17
tommy cresta
probably the most consistent horror frame car character until the end.
00:14:17
ESPGolfTV
I love Freddy. I was stuck with Freddy and I forgot the name of the mon. should actually probably it up. The girl from The Grudge.
00:14:29
ESPGolfTV
So, like yeah, those two.
00:14:29
Ryan
oh yeah
00:14:30
tommy cresta
long, yeah. That's a good one.
00:14:32
ESPGolfTV
But I'm even including her list anymore just because I really think she wouldn't go anywhere else. I would say Freddy. I like the Freddy movies. Um, I'm actually a defender of the 2010 remake of the Freddy movies. I liked it.
00:14:45
tommy cresta
I just watched it the other day and I was like, this was my movie as a kid.
00:14:45
Ryan
I keep smiling and I'm like, this is my movie as a kid.
00:14:47
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:14:49
Ryan
I watched the AdWords, the Red Dawn, the Friday the Week remake the Tucky remake.
00:14:50
tommy cresta
watched that, red Dawn, Friday the 13th remake, and Chucky remake.
00:14:55
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:14:56
tommy cresta
And I was like, I'm just going down the rabbit hole with these movies.
00:14:56
Ryan
And I was like, I'm going down for all season 3.
00:14:58
ESPGolfTV
know Oh, and Freddy vs. Jason, what a mess that was, but that was like the first crossover movie I've ever seen in my life.
00:15:02
tommy cresta
oh God.
00:15:06
ESPGolfTV
So...
00:15:06
Ryan
Oh god.
00:15:06
tommy cresta
but There's another character that's on my list later that's in a crossover movie.
00:15:06
Ryan
There's another character from the CrossFit remake that's in a much better way.
00:15:09
tommy cresta
That's in a much worse.
00:15:11
ESPGolfTV
like I like Freddie. I get it. I do like the Southern Time remake.
00:15:15
Ryan
yeah I love just how much of an asshole Freddy is.
00:15:17
tommy cresta
love just coming
00:15:19
Ryan
Like, he's just having fun the entire time.
00:15:19
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:15:19
tommy cresta
he's just having one the entire
00:15:21
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:15:22
Ryan
He's so adorable.
00:15:22
tommy cresta
He's such a perv, though, in the remake. oh
00:15:24
Ryan
Oh, yeah. He's so adorable.
00:15:25
tommy cresta
Oh, Leans so much more into being a pedophile.
00:15:26
Ryan
Yeah.
00:15:27
tommy cresta
Alright,
00:15:27
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, straight up a photo, yeah.
00:15:30
Ryan
All right, well, my number eight is going to be, I'll be completely honest.
00:15:31
tommy cresta
well, my number eight is going to be... I'll be fairly honest.
00:15:34
Ryan
I have not seen the second one.
00:15:34
tommy cresta
I've seen the second one.
00:15:35
tommy cresta
I've seen the beginning of third one. I've seen the first one.
00:15:35
Ryan
I've seen the beginning of the third one, but I've seen the first one.
00:15:38
Ryan
I have the creeper from Jeepers Creepers on here.
00:15:38
tommy cresta
I have the Creeper from Jeepers Creepers on there. You saw Jeepers Creepers?
00:15:43
Ryan
Yeah, I've seen the first one.
00:15:43
tommy cresta
Yeah, seen the first
00:15:44
Ryan
But the reason I have them so high is because I remember when we were much younger, I was over your house for a party.
00:15:44
tommy cresta
But the reason I had them so high is because I remember when we were watching one, I was over at your house for a party.
00:15:47
ESPGolfTV
Thank
00:15:50
Ryan
Like our our families were getting together.
00:15:50
tommy cresta
Like, our family was pretty good it.
00:15:52
Ryan
And...
00:15:52
tommy cresta
And you put on Jeepers Creepers 3 on the table.
00:15:53
Ryan
you put Jeepers Creepers 3, it was just on cable, and I saw the beginning of it, or do you remember the intro?
00:15:56
tommy cresta
And I saw the beginning of it. Or do you remember the intro? No.
00:15:59
Ryan
Where it's just this like young kid who was like our age at the time is like walking through a field and he sees a scarecrow and it's him and he just snatches them flies away.
00:15:59
tommy cresta
just this, like, young kid. Like, R8 at the time is, like, walking through a female. Then he's an air girl. It's him. Oh, yeah. Dude, scared the chair out of me so bad.
00:16:07
Ryan
Dude scared the shit out of me so bad.
00:16:09
tommy cresta
It was one of those times where, like, I didn't try to walk my dad to meal.
00:16:10
Ryan
It was one of those times where like I had to drive home, my my dad drove me home, and I like ran to the door.
00:16:13
tommy cresta
And I, like, went in my door.
00:16:15
Ryan
I was like, I gotta to get inside right now, he's gonna get me.
00:16:15
tommy cresta
was like, gotta get fat right now. He's gonna get it.
00:16:17
Ryan
So that's always stuck with me.
00:16:17
tommy cresta
So that's always tough with me.
00:16:19
Ryan
So I got Jeepers Creepers on there.
00:16:19
tommy cresta
So I gotta Jeepers Creepers. I'm like, fuck.
00:16:21
Ryan
Um, Yeah. I think the scariest part of that franchise, though, is the director now.
00:16:23
tommy cresta
various port
00:16:26
Ryan
After all that shit he did.
00:16:26
tommy cresta
all the shit
00:16:27
Ryan
Who's the director?
00:16:27
tommy cresta
Who's the director?
00:16:28
Ryan
I forget his name, but he's a piece of shit.
00:16:28
tommy cresta
um forget his name, but he's a piece of shit. Oh.
00:16:30
Ryan
um Yeah, he did some bad stuff.
00:16:32
tommy cresta
Yeah, he did some bad stuff.
00:16:34
Ryan
So that's fun.
00:16:34
tommy cresta
That's fun.
00:16:35
Ryan
Yeah.
00:16:37
tommy cresta
Well, that's a good one,
00:16:37
Ryan
Well, good for that.
00:16:39
tommy cresta
Yeah, what's your number eight?
00:16:39
Ryan
Yeah, yeah. What's your number eight? My number eight is the first thing do.
00:16:41
tommy cresta
My number eight is the lipstick face demon from the Insidious franchise. Might be the greatest jump scare of all time when he appears behind Patrick Wilson.
00:16:46
Ryan
Might be the greatest one to care of all time. They're here for all the bad shows on.
00:16:51
tommy cresta
It was the first horror movie I snuck into at the AMC near us.
00:16:51
Ryan
It was the first moment I got into at the AMC.
00:16:55
tommy cresta
I told my mom I was going to see, I think, Iron Man 3 or Iron Man 2.
00:16:55
Ryan
I told my mom, I think Iron Man 3, Iron Man 2.
00:16:59
tommy cresta
And I walked it into the theater next to it and got in 10 minutes late to Insidious 2.
00:16:59
Ryan
And I walked to the theater next to it and got into it's like a theater.
00:17:04
tommy cresta
And I remember crying in the bathroom because I was so scared of the movie.
00:17:04
Ryan
And then I remember crying in the bathroom. I was shooting. yeah I was interested in that by myself.
00:17:10
tommy cresta
I should not have been sitting in there by myself.
00:17:12
ESPGolfTV
I'll never be on you guys.
00:17:13
tommy cresta
But yeah, that that guy's terrifying.
00:17:13
Ryan
But yeah, that guy's fine. Yeah.
00:17:15
ESPGolfTV
i mean, I'm sure you've seen the remember I funny back in the day.
00:17:19
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:17:19
Ryan
Yeah. yeah
00:17:19
ESPGolfTV
I funny meme it was like, i was crashing my nuts during the.
00:17:25
ESPGolfTV
Popped out. Scratch. Whenever I think I think of that. That funny post.
00:17:33
tommy cresta
And he really isn't that scary when you see him.
00:17:33
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:35
tommy cresta
like like when you I feel like it's more the music and the atmosphere makes him so much more scary.
00:17:39
ESPGolfTV
You're wondering.
00:17:39
tommy cresta
Because he really is just Darth Maul.
00:17:40
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:17:40
Ryan
yeah
00:17:43
ESPGolfTV
Well, I think Insidious 1 is an expertly crafted horror film. I think Insidious 2 was half as good as a movie it was. I think every Insidious after that should have been like straight to video on a man movie.
00:17:58
tommy cresta
Hey, Insidious 3 is a great horror movie.
00:17:58
Ryan
yeah great honor
00:18:01
ESPGolfTV
I don't think I've ever laughed harder than when that girl got ran over by the car.
00:18:06
tommy cresta
I swear to God, we watched sort of
00:18:06
Ryan
Dude, I swear to God, we watched it together and both of us just started dying laughing. Yeah.
00:18:11
ESPGolfTV
I watched that with my friend back in was funny The movie's already mine in my opinion and this bitch just gets fucking mowed out of it.
00:18:16
Ryan
I think
00:18:20
Ryan
what I was going to say was that he's playing a red song.
00:18:21
ESPGolfTV
That looks so good.
00:18:23
tommy cresta
think that's 2014. So I was in eighth grade and we went salt.
00:18:25
Ryan
Like all of my friends, I was just like, oh, my God.
00:18:26
tommy cresta
Like all my grade went salt in stage chapter three. And my friend at the time, who's such a loser now, can't stand that kid. um he literally had to sleep with a nightlight on yeah fuck that guy he had to sleep with a nightlight on for a month after that movie yeah you know who i'm talking about um but yeah he was so scared of the movie and we kept making fun of he's like dude it's not funny oh my god i hate that
00:18:32
Ryan
Oh, I know who you're talking about now. Let's continue on back for my metronome.
00:18:49
ESPGolfTV
Can't stand it like that.
00:18:51
tommy cresta
but yeah let's continue on not talk about my trauma anymore
00:18:52
Ryan
lets continue on
00:18:56
ESPGolfTV
Number seven for me, kind of, you know, call back to the beginning of the episode, going to the Zuzu, the demon from Exorcist, the original one.
Horror Techniques and Scares
00:19:05
Ryan
Yeah.
00:19:05
ESPGolfTV
I thought that dude was creepy as shit. You only see him for a frame. frame.
00:19:08
tommy cresta
Yeah, isn't it...
00:19:08
Ryan
Yeah.
00:19:08
ESPGolfTV
You can
00:19:09
tommy cresta
Is it one frame or twice?
00:19:09
Ryan
it email
00:19:10
tommy cresta
I always think you see them twice in it.
00:19:12
ESPGolfTV
do it two times, but it's for one frame.
00:19:13
tommy cresta
ah it is... Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:14
Ryan
yeah
00:19:15
ESPGolfTV
only see one frame worth of him. So I think he's in the movie for a total of 0.3 or 0.4 seconds. And dudes, in the moment when you're watching the film, if you're like like watching it and you're in it, and that thing just pops up of nowhere, because it comes and you're not expecting it.
00:19:34
ESPGolfTV
And personally, when I watched it for the first time, it was like someone stabbing me in the heart. Actually, it was Steve. At seven, that's where I'm putting that.
00:19:43
tommy cresta
I haven't even...
00:19:43
Ryan
I told you I was never a horror guy until like a year or two ago.
00:19:44
tommy cresta
thought Oh my god, I completely forgot about that scene. The two scenes. The frames.
00:19:48
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:19:49
tommy cresta
But it is so quick.
00:19:49
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:19:51
tommy cresta
ah And if you're sitting in the dark, then you swear you see him on the wall.
00:19:51
Ryan
and preum
00:19:54
tommy cresta
Because your eyes like adjusting to the flash.
00:19:55
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, dude.
00:19:56
Ryan
yeah um
00:19:57
tommy cresta
I'm like, oh no. Have you seen The Exorcist?
00:19:58
ESPGolfTV
Original
00:19:59
Ryan
most of it
00:20:00
tommy cresta
Oh.
00:20:02
ESPGolfTV
Exorcist?
00:20:03
tommy cresta
This is what happens on this show lot.
00:20:03
Ryan
no otherwise i told you um i was never a horror guy until like a year or two ago
00:20:05
tommy cresta
told you. I'm in the trailer. I know.
00:20:09
ESPGolfTV
Dude, you gotta watch it. It's it's one of those, like if you're getting into horror, it's one of the staples.
00:20:10
Ryan
I know.
00:20:14
ESPGolfTV
don't know if it's on Mount Rush, not rushmore but ah family
00:20:18
Ryan
Yeah.
00:20:18
tommy cresta
yeah
00:20:19
Ryan
No, I do have to watch it for sure.
00:20:19
tommy cresta
yeah because you like the conjuring so if you can do that a lot people like put them as like you can watch the cat you would like it though I think it's like it's a really well-made movie my number seven is gonna be the
00:20:20
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:24
Ryan
yeah The thing, I just haven't watched it because I know what happens. like this you know I've seen a majority of it from on YouTube or whatever, so I just kind of avoided it, but I should sit down and watch it.
00:20:32
tommy cresta
i should you would like it though i think it's like it's a really womade movie
00:20:33
Ryan
just I'm sure I would like it. Yeah, it's great movie.
00:20:37
ESPGolfTV
Yes, this is good one.
00:20:38
Ryan
um My number seven...
00:20:38
tommy cresta
minor seven
00:20:40
Ryan
is going to be the red face guy from Insidious, like Tommy.
00:20:40
tommy cresta
going to be the oh yeah
00:20:42
Ryan
just Just that jump scare is the greatest thing of all time.
00:20:43
tommy cresta
just that jump scare all time a sta and the one from
00:20:46
Ryan
It's that and the one from Haunting of Hill House are like neck and neck.
00:20:49
tommy cresta
Oh, that haunting a hell house jump scare.
00:20:50
Ryan
Because that one is in the car um but i another story i was dating this girl in high school back like zero horror movies would not watch one for the life of me and she liked them and so she just kept trying to get me to watch them she tried to get me to watch insidious and i said no so what she did was just take that picture of the jump scare and make it my phone background my wallpaper and not tell me and so i got home and went on my phone and just scared the shit out of me and i threw it all across the room
00:20:54
tommy cresta
But I another story. I was dating this girl in high school. Zero of our movies would not watch one for the life me. She liked it. And so she just kept trying get me watch them. She tried to get me to watch the studios.
00:21:04
tommy cresta
And I said, no. So what she did was just take that picture of the jump scare and make it my phone background, my wallpaper, and not tell me. And so I got over and what am i film and just the
00:21:16
ESPGolfTV
Dude, two
00:21:16
Ryan
I was that scared of everything. So that's a fun memory with that guy. Yeah, that's my number seven. You already said enough about him, why he's good. But, yeah. So what's your number seven, Tom?
00:21:25
tommy cresta
your number seven? Mine's Patrick, the main white clown from the Hell House franchise.
00:21:27
Ryan
My favorite is me, Blake Kyle, and Kyle's friends. That's fun to say.
00:21:31
ESPGolfTV
more.
00:21:31
tommy cresta
God, that fucking thing.
00:21:33
Ryan
I've lost my children.
00:21:34
tommy cresta
Seeing him in the trailer for the new one, I was like, God, why am i do I put myself through this?
00:21:35
Ryan
When I watched him, I was on the first time.
00:21:38
tommy cresta
When I watched Hell House for the first time, it was two years ago, I think now. Yeah, two years ago.
00:21:43
Ryan
yeah two
00:21:44
tommy cresta
i was doing my horror Halloween countdown.
00:21:44
Ryan
I my horror on the new calendar.
00:21:45
tommy cresta
I watched 30 movies for 30 days.
00:21:45
Ryan
I watched 30 movies.
00:21:48
tommy cresta
And the trailer does not show a clown.
00:21:48
Ryan
And the trailer not sure what happened.
00:21:51
tommy cresta
So I didn't look at anything else.
00:21:51
Ryan
So I didn't look good at it.
00:21:52
tommy cresta
I put the movie on.
00:21:52
Ryan
I put the movie on.
00:21:53
tommy cresta
I got so scared that I paused the movie and went upstairs and watched The Office with my dad for 30 minutes because my heart literally felt like it was like hurting from like breathing too much.
00:21:53
Ryan
I was scared. I was like, close the movie. I went upstairs and watched the movie. My dad was a little mad. Because my heart literally felt like hurting. From like breathing to my shining clouds.
00:22:02
tommy cresta
I hate clowns. was my biggest fear.
00:22:03
Ryan
It was my biggest fear.
00:22:05
tommy cresta
So yeah, he...
00:22:05
Ryan
So yeah, that shows the problem that he had just scared me that he had seven or six more to go.
00:22:07
tommy cresta
That shows how many of these characters scare me that he's at seven and we still have six more to go. But yeah, he terrifies me.
00:22:12
ESPGolfTV
Yeah. All
00:22:12
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:15
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:22:16
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:22:16
ESPGolfTV
right, now we're getting this into some interesting territory. Because my six through one, they're like, I would say my six through four are like more spaced out, and my top three are like neck and neck.
Impact of The Conjuring Franchise
00:22:27
ESPGolfTV
I would say for number six, I do have Alec. I have a number six. For me, I mean, you're talking about the number two scene. For me, it's Conjuring 2 scene, where she's the end of the hallway, and like the...
00:22:41
ESPGolfTV
Warren's daughter is like, mom, what is that? no Like whatever.
00:22:45
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:22:45
Ryan
Yeah.
00:22:46
ESPGolfTV
Good. Chills up my spine. girlfriend still can't watch that movie. She can't watch that scene. You know, love the movie. No, I think that's the way they built her up and the way they used her. Cause I feel like personally her stock has dropped.
00:23:04
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:23:04
ESPGolfTV
ah for
00:23:04
Ryan
yeah
00:23:05
ESPGolfTV
port goes just with the more you see or i thought this book made her so scary is that you really didn't see her and did see her was like these extremely intense moments um so that's why i wasn't really a fan of the nun or the nun 2 or bring her back at all i just thought like you saw her too much it just kind of ruined the the the mystery behind it know so but i have her at six just for the frights that she did come out with nun 2 especially watching the first time that's one of the scar like scared like scaredest i've ever been watching a film
00:23:26
Ryan
Yeah.
00:23:35
tommy cresta
Yeah, Conjuring 2 is a banger.
00:23:35
Ryan
It is.
00:23:37
ESPGolfTV
that's
00:23:37
Ryan
It's kind of.
00:23:37
tommy cresta
The Conjuring trilogy is even good.
00:23:38
Ryan
think it's a job, I love a.
00:23:38
tommy cresta
The third one's not great, but it's not as bad as I always think it is.
00:23:40
ESPGolfTV
Yeah. <unk> trash
00:23:45
ESPGolfTV
one
00:23:48
tommy cresta
I think it's so hard for them, though, because Michael Chavez, I love it.
00:23:48
Ryan
i think michael
00:23:51
tommy cresta
Me and Ryan both love Annabelle 3, Annabelle Comes Home, because it's just a ridiculous jump-scare-filled horror movie.
00:23:54
Ryan
just like
00:23:58
Ryan
So I have to make this work, because James Wanlach has said a lot of this is going to hold fingers crossed.
00:23:58
tommy cresta
So I have trust in him to make this fourth one good, because James Wan was on set for a lot of it, so going to hold Fingers crossed. It's like my number two most anticipated movie of the year.
00:24:06
Ryan
So hopefully they can.
00:24:07
tommy cresta
So hopefully they can end it strong.
00:24:09
ESPGolfTV
I thought Annabelle Comes Home wasn't scary at all.
00:24:09
Ryan
Yeah.
00:24:12
ESPGolfTV
They changed, didn't they change the actor of Elizabeth Warren and Patrick Wilson's, didn't they change the actor of daughter?
00:24:13
Ryan
Oh.
00:24:20
tommy cresta
Yeah, they changed the daughter.
00:24:20
Ryan
Yeah, they just don't want to anything, but then the notes are going to be under.
00:24:21
tommy cresta
but and then they But then the nun to the other girl comes back.
00:24:25
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, so I personally didn't like that.
00:24:26
tommy cresta
So I was kind of confused.
00:24:26
Ryan
Yeah. and
00:24:30
ESPGolfTV
didn't how goofy it was. Again, Annabelle can be a strange situation. She's not on my list. When you show it too much, it gets less and less and less scary.
00:24:42
ESPGolfTV
So that's just, I feel like they're dragging it. That's why I i prefer the main line conjuring series.
00:24:48
tommy cresta
Yeah, just the main movie.
00:24:48
Ryan
yeah
00:24:49
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:24:50
ESPGolfTV
Fat nuts.
00:24:51
Ryan
Yeah, that's fair.
00:24:51
tommy cresta
That's fair.
00:24:53
Ryan
So my number six is Annabelle.
00:24:53
tommy cresta
So my number six is...
00:24:57
Ryan
well so
00:24:59
tommy cresta
That couldn't have been set up more perfectly if we wrote it.
00:25:02
Ryan
Just nailed that.
00:25:03
tommy cresta
Nailed that.
00:25:04
Ryan
um
00:25:05
tommy cresta
I do agree with what you're saying.
00:25:05
Ryan
Yeah, no. I do agree with what you're saying. shit She's in it too much, but I think like...
00:25:07
tommy cresta
She's in it too much, but i think like...
00:25:10
Ryan
I kind of like that.
00:25:10
tommy cresta
i kind of like that.
00:25:10
Ryan
Not for how scary she is, but just that it is kind of like the through line through all of the movies.
00:25:10
tommy cresta
Not for how scary she is, but just that it is kind like the through line to all the movies.
00:25:15
Ryan
Like she has her own trilogy and then she's in the Conjuring movies.
00:25:15
tommy cresta
Like has her own trilogy, and then she's in the Conjuring movies.
00:25:18
Ryan
And she ah she always pops up.
00:25:18
tommy cresta
ah she she always pops out she always finds a way to
00:25:20
Ryan
She always finds a way to pop up. And I just think that's cool how it's just the one demon just can't stop fucking around with the Warrens.
00:25:21
tommy cresta
just think cool i was just a one
00:25:26
tommy cresta
ah cant get rid of
00:25:26
Ryan
They can't get rid of it.
00:25:26
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:25:28
Ryan
um i just think I just think it's cool.
00:25:28
tommy cresta
i take
00:25:29
Ryan
And the fact that it's real too.
00:25:30
tommy cresta
and that's right like they're all
00:25:31
Ryan
Like they're all... real in the conjuring movies but the fact they're still touring with that fucking doll did did they come to philly yet no okay it would go missing in gettysburg
00:25:33
tommy cresta
Yeah. fact it's phil tor and fucking
00:25:37
ESPGolfTV
He's missing.
00:25:37
tommy cresta
they try a familiar No, it went to Gettysburg.
00:25:41
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, he's missing. Did they find her yet?
00:25:43
tommy cresta
No, that they came out where like it didn't go missing.
00:25:46
ESPGolfTV
Oh, okay.
00:25:46
tommy cresta
That someone did as like a scare thing and then someone put a raggedy Ann in a church where it went missing.
00:25:47
ESPGolfTV
Good.
00:25:50
Ryan
but
00:25:54
tommy cresta
Supposedly to like mess with people and people like freaked out.
00:25:57
ESPGolfTV
I thought it was secret marketing company for a new movie.
00:25:57
Ryan
it would go missing in gettysburg
00:25:57
tommy cresta
it was Don't say that.
00:26:02
tommy cresta
I love
00:26:02
Ryan
I love the story of Adam Peltler.
00:26:04
tommy cresta
Like the story of Annabelle, but her movies just aren't.
00:26:06
Ryan
Her movie is starring.
00:26:07
tommy cresta
The first two are so bad.
00:26:07
Ryan
The third one is only bad. yeah The third one is only...
00:26:10
tommy cresta
third one's only really like, it's
00:26:11
Ryan
we only like it because it's just fun. It's a good like Halloween relax, fun movie.
00:26:12
tommy cresta
It's a good like, Halloween, relaxed, fun movie.
00:26:14
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, popcorn for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a popcorn for me.
00:26:17
Ryan
Yeah.
00:26:17
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:26:18
ESPGolfTV
That's what it
00:26:20
tommy cresta
We're on six, right?
00:26:21
Ryan
Yeah, six.
00:26:21
tommy cresta
Yeah, it.
00:26:21
ESPGolfTV
is. Yeah.
00:26:22
tommy cresta
Number six, it's the last clown on this list.
00:26:23
Ryan
Number six.
00:26:25
tommy cresta
Fucking Art the Clown, man.
00:26:25
Ryan
Fucking market. God. I'm paraphrasing.
00:26:27
tommy cresta
God, I'm terrified of that, man. i went and saw Terrifier 3, which was a terrible decision, three different times.
00:26:30
Ryan
I went to school and paraphrasing. three different times, and was on because thought you were gonna watch it.
00:26:34
tommy cresta
And i lay I almost vomited the third time I watched it.
00:26:37
Ryan
There's something about that character that will be for an actress to be very familiar with.
00:26:37
tommy cresta
There's something about that shower scene that will forever be ingrained into my brain. But it's not as bad as the knife scene in Bring Her Back to me.
00:26:42
Ryan
Not as bad as like to bring her back.
00:26:44
tommy cresta
Bring Her Back might have the worst scene in history.
00:26:44
Ryan
Bring her back after you don't see history.
00:26:47
tommy cresta
But yeah, Art the Clown.
00:26:47
Ryan
But yeah, on the fact that he does character in the short story of a movie at first, and then they meet Terrifier 1, which I think is fun, Terrifier 2, which I've seen
00:26:48
tommy cresta
The fact that he just was a character in a short story of a movie at first.
00:26:53
ESPGolfTV
yeah
00:26:54
tommy cresta
And then they made Terrifier 1, which I think is pretty fun. Terrifier 2, which I hated.
00:27:00
Ryan
the
00:27:00
tommy cresta
and then Terrifier 3, which I think was
00:27:02
Ryan
that per
00:27:02
tommy cresta
as perfect as this franchise will get, but we'll see how the fourth one goes and all that.
00:27:05
Ryan
see
00:27:07
tommy cresta
But yeah, I think he's just, he's solidified himself in that like S tier of slasher character.
00:27:07
Ryan
Yeah. Oh, really? Really? if i
00:27:12
tommy cresta
Like everyone knows who he is and he's a small budget character.
00:27:14
Ryan
yeah
00:27:15
ESPGolfTV
I was really on the fence about putting Art on my list. He would have, liked him more than jason i think jason's just more important to the genre and are
00:27:26
Ryan
yeah
00:27:26
ESPGolfTV
without jason there wouldn't be an art fun fact though i used to have a podcast where my girlfriend made we talk movies and I actually interviewed David, the actor behind.
00:27:35
tommy cresta
Oh, really?
00:27:35
Ryan
ah red really
00:27:36
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Super cool guy.
00:27:38
Ryan
Yeah,
00:27:39
ESPGolfTV
Dude, his, his like goal in life is to be Joker one day. And see yeah, he made a fan film so he could do it.
00:27:45
Ryan
because he played with that game.
00:27:45
tommy cresta
Yeah, because he played him in that fan film.
00:27:48
Ryan
Amazing.
00:27:49
tommy cresta
Amazing.
00:27:49
ESPGolfTV
kind is real and I think dude would be a killer Joker.
Low-Budget Horror Impact: Art the Clown
00:27:53
tommy cresta
Yo, James Gunn.
00:27:53
Ryan
Yo, James.
00:27:53
ESPGolfTV
But yeah, super nice.
00:27:53
Ryan
Yeah. Hey, you're listening.
00:27:54
tommy cresta
want I know you're listening.
00:27:56
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, bring him on.
00:27:57
tommy cresta
Go cast him as Joker.
00:27:57
Ryan
Yeah, this is where my...
00:27:58
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, bring him on. Alright, we got, oh, top five, okay.
00:28:04
tommy cresta
Yeah, this is where mine...
00:28:04
Ryan
yeah this is one of
00:28:06
tommy cresta
Five is I think, here and up is solidified, but probably the top three could be interchangeable for me.
00:28:06
Ryan
Five, I think, here enough solidify by the time we
00:28:12
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, no, the next next two for me are strong, strong, I think. So for number five, kind of going back to what I was saying earlier, the frickin', don't even like saying his name, but like, Bagul, or whatever his fucking name was from Sinister, that one.
00:28:27
tommy cresta
Oh, yeah, the smile Mr.
00:28:27
Ryan
get. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:28:29
tommy cresta
Smiley, whatever.
00:28:29
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, whatever his name.
00:28:30
tommy cresta
Whatever they refer to him as.
00:28:32
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, from obviously Sinister One, I thought when I watched it at least, I mean, again, I haven't really revisited that too much it dead-ass did freak me out so much. When he we popped up for the first time, I thought it was the scariest shit ever. When you see him like in the back of the films when Ethan Hawke is doing his investigation and zooming into the the footage and you see him in that jump scare when he comes out at you from the video.
00:28:58
ESPGolfTV
Dude, fuck that. That jump scare... Dude, that jump-scarer, I honestly don't know how he didn't have a heart attack that day, but he's my number five, 100%.
00:29:04
Ryan
the
00:29:07
ESPGolfTV
100%.
00:29:07
ESPGolfTV
He would have been higher if my top four weren't so just...
00:29:08
tommy cresta
That's a good number five. He just missed my list.
00:29:11
Ryan
yeah
00:29:12
ESPGolfTV
Yeah. you would have been hired top forward and so
00:29:18
tommy cresta
Yeah. I'm excited to hear your top ones, Ryan.
00:29:21
Ryan
it's good play
00:29:23
tommy cresta
Because I have no idea where you're going.
00:29:23
Ryan
no
00:29:26
Ryan
I think my my top three are pretty solidified.
00:29:26
tommy cresta
I think my top three is pretty simplified.
00:29:27
Ryan
I think four and five can kind of like, like you were saying, the 10 through five, you know, you can mess with those a little bit.
00:29:27
tommy cresta
I think four and five now in. Like you were saying, the ten through five. I think four is definitely, for me, higher.
00:29:33
Ryan
I think four is definitely, you four to one, you know, I'll change five to whatever.
00:29:35
tommy cresta
So four to one can all change. Five is set at five, and that's the rest can all kind change in.
00:29:38
Ryan
right. I got you. So my number five is going to the Demogorgon from Stranger Things.
00:29:40
tommy cresta
My number five is going to the Demogorgon from Stranger Things.
00:29:44
Ryan
Another newer one, but another just instantly iconic monster.
00:29:44
tommy cresta
Another number one, but another iconic model.
00:29:48
Ryan
And I mean, like, Stranger Things season one is the best season.
00:29:48
tommy cresta
I mean, like, Stranger Things is the best season.
00:29:51
Ryan
I think it's always going to be the best season because it's the only one that was genuinely scary because you kind of lost the scare factor once you realized you understood what was going on with the upside down and everything.
00:29:51
tommy cresta
It's going to be the best season.
00:29:55
tommy cresta
kind of
00:29:58
tommy cresta
going on upside down.
00:30:00
Ryan
But still, those original first season scenes with the Demogorgon,
00:30:00
tommy cresta
But still, those original first season themes, they're fucking creepy.
00:30:05
Ryan
They're fucking creepy.
00:30:06
tommy cresta
They're still creepy.
00:30:06
Ryan
They're still creepy. it's still It's such an iconic, the mouth opening up now.
00:30:07
tommy cresta
It's such an iconic album.
00:30:10
tommy cresta
It's just kind of become a staple of modern horror.
00:30:10
Ryan
it's just
00:30:10
Ryan
It's kind of become a staple of like you know modern horror going back to the 80s aesthetic.
00:30:14
tommy cresta
Because the whole show is a theme.
00:30:15
Ryan
Because the whole show is just Stephen King, movies, which it gives it that...
00:30:18
tommy cresta
Which gives it that feeling better when you're on the show.
00:30:19
Ryan
you know that feeling that everybody loves about the show. But ah yeah, the Demogorgon, the original one is just the best.
00:30:23
tommy cresta
But yeah, the original one is just the best.
00:30:26
Ryan
And then, you know, they kind of ruined it, not ruined it, but all the Demogorgs and stuff.
00:30:26
tommy cresta
And it kind of ruined it. Devon dogs are stupid.
00:30:30
Ryan
Yeah.
00:30:30
tommy cresta
Yeah, they just went about a little bit.
00:30:30
Ryan
They just went little a little, a little overboard. I wish it was still, it should have just been one season.
00:30:32
tommy cresta
I wish it was world. It should just been once. The original idea the anthology theories I think would have worked better.
00:30:34
Ryan
The original idea of an anthology series, I think have worked better, but yeah, the Demogorgon had to be on my list.
00:30:40
tommy cresta
But, yeah. That money had to be too crazy for them to be like, yo, we're changing this up.
00:30:43
Ryan
Oh, they're getting paid out the ass, dude. Yeah.
00:30:46
ESPGolfTV
It's also tough to get five seasons across like, what's it, 10 years.
00:30:48
Ryan
Yeah.
00:30:48
tommy cresta
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:50
ESPGolfTV
A hot take you again, I'm not huge fan of Stranger Things.
00:30:50
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:30:56
ESPGolfTV
I've seen
00:30:56
Ryan
Really?
00:30:58
ESPGolfTV
I think it's just, I can't get behind it when it takes so long to get the next thing. And it's so hard for me to keep suspending my belief in reality when these are supposed to be high school kids or like brand new school kids.
00:31:09
tommy cresta
Yeah, what are they, 20-something now?
00:31:09
Ryan
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:31:10
ESPGolfTV
And they're like 30. Like Joe Keery, about to be 30 something years old.
00:31:12
Ryan
Yeah.
00:31:12
tommy cresta
yeah
00:31:15
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:31:16
ESPGolfTV
I will say though, I loved season three. I thought season three was a lot.
00:31:20
tommy cresta
What?
00:31:21
Ryan
Three.
00:31:23
ESPGolfTV
I thought season three is the only ability, huh?
00:31:26
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:31:26
Ryan
Yeah.
00:31:27
tommy cresta
It's the only upside of that season.
00:31:27
Ryan
so all Yeah.
00:31:29
ESPGolfTV
I thought that season was lot. I it a lot. wasn't a fan of season four. I did not, actually didn't like season four at all. Season two was one with Demo Dogs, didn't like season two either. also
00:31:40
Ryan
Yeah.
00:31:41
ESPGolfTV
Remind me the villain of season two. who was that again?
00:31:44
Ryan
um Wasn't it just that one?
00:31:45
tommy cresta
Wasn't it just Devon dogs?
00:31:47
Ryan
I think it was the dogs, yeah, because they had to like go down the tunnel and shut it down.
00:31:47
tommy cresta
think it was the dogs. They had like going down the funnel shut down.
00:31:50
Ryan
I think it was just like another opening somewhere.
00:31:50
tommy cresta
think it was just like another opening. Yeah.
00:31:52
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:31:52
tommy cresta
Somewhere.
00:31:53
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:54
tommy cresta
Season four is most recent one?
00:31:54
ESPGolfTV
Season one.
00:31:54
Ryan
Yeah, for that's
00:31:56
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:31:56
tommy cresta
That's my favorite season.
00:31:58
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, season one was the best season. I liked season two a lot.
00:31:59
tommy cresta
No. Four.
00:32:00
Ryan
yeah no.
00:32:01
tommy cresta
Four is the best season.
00:32:01
Ryan
One was the best season.
00:32:03
tommy cresta
I like four.
00:32:03
ESPGolfTV
I like
00:32:03
Ryan
I like it.
00:32:05
tommy cresta
I like that they're more grown up.
00:32:06
Ryan
I like that.
00:32:07
tommy cresta
Um. Number five, it's one of the most iconic horror characters of all time.
00:32:08
Ryan
Number five, what was that? i mean
00:32:11
tommy cresta
We mentioned them earlier, Freddy Krueger. Just terrifying, re-watching the...
00:32:13
Ryan
just terror you are excuse me, the remake.
00:32:18
tommy cresta
Excuse me, the remake.
00:32:19
ESPGolfTV
the other one.
00:32:20
tommy cresta
As much as I hate a lot of the use of CGI, Freddy's just an asshole.
00:32:20
Ryan
As much as I hear a lot music, CGI, Freddy's just an asshole.
00:32:24
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:32:24
tommy cresta
Like, Freddy's just mean.
00:32:24
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:32:25
Ryan
Like, Freddy's just an asshole.
00:32:26
ESPGolfTV
Pasty dick.
00:32:27
tommy cresta
has some of the wildest lines in his movies.
00:32:27
Ryan
He has of the wildest lines we've released.
00:32:30
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:32:30
tommy cresta
We all know the meat line that he makes in Freddy vs.
00:32:30
Ryan
We all know the new line that we've seen Freddy, which is terrible now.
00:32:32
tommy cresta
Jason, which has aged terribly now.
00:32:35
ESPGolfTV
So bad.
00:32:36
tommy cresta
And just, Freddy's just an asshole.
00:32:36
Ryan
And Freddy's just an asshole.
00:32:39
tommy cresta
But I love that they, I love the idea of him, like, being in your dreams and stuff like that.
00:32:39
Ryan
But I love idea of kind of dreaming the dream, especially because it all came from
00:32:43
tommy cresta
Especially because it all came from these three men in South America. They woke, they went to sleep, five of them, and three of them woke up dead and they had, like, slashed Mars across their chest.
00:32:50
Ryan
you know But of it.
00:32:53
tommy cresta
But it looked like they came from, like, inside of them.
00:32:53
ESPGolfTV
Whoa.
00:32:54
Ryan
And that's how much created that.
00:32:55
tommy cresta
And that's how Wes Craven got the idea. And yeah, so it's a really awesome movie.
00:32:58
Ryan
And yeah, it's really awesome.
00:32:58
ESPGolfTV
Whoa. That's sick. I didn't know that story came from.
00:33:02
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:33:02
Ryan
Yeah.
00:33:04
tommy cresta
It was pretty crazy.
00:33:04
Ryan
It's really great, but I think way to continue to record improved.
00:33:04
tommy cresta
You can read about online. I think it's on the Wikipedia page for the movie now.
00:33:09
ESPGolfTV
Whoa.
00:33:09
tommy cresta
But yeah, Freddy's icon.
00:33:09
Ryan
But yeah, Freddie's.
00:33:10
ESPGolfTV
That's...
00:33:12
ESPGolfTV
All right, before we head into my top five, or I guess top four now, want to just throw out a couple of honorable mentions.
00:33:17
tommy cresta
Mm-hmm.
00:33:22
ESPGolfTV
get shouted out. Personally, for me that I want to shout out, want shout out Jack Torrance, 100% from The Shining. I want shout Hannibal Lecter, favorite role of
00:33:37
tommy cresta
Anthony?
00:33:37
Ryan
and The options.
00:33:38
ESPGolfTV
Anthony Hopkins. There it is. want to shout out my boy leather face even though that's be worse freaking remake i've ever seen in fire
00:33:48
tommy cresta
I think the whole franchise is terrible.
00:33:48
Ryan
<unk> know
00:33:51
ESPGolfTV
The first movie, think, has just the way like it was filmed.
00:33:51
tommy cresta
I can't
00:33:53
ESPGolfTV
It almost looked real. like It looked so gritty and grummy. The way they filmed the first one, which is why I like it so much. And I loved mating him in Mortal Kombat X.
00:34:06
ESPGolfTV
So that's where it comes back to me a little bit there.
00:34:07
tommy cresta
Ah, that's fair.
00:34:07
Ryan
Yeah. I think the
00:34:12
ESPGolfTV
But I just wanted to throw out those honorable mentions. And Pinhead. And Pinhead, actually. One of
00:34:16
tommy cresta
Pinhead almost made my list, but he's the second scariest character in his own franchise.
00:34:17
Ryan
name i husband
00:34:21
tommy cresta
Chatterteeth scares the shit out of me.
00:34:21
Ryan
but scar island
00:34:24
ESPGolfTV
Only in the second movie, they ruined it.
00:34:24
tommy cresta
And my dad.
00:34:26
ESPGolfTV
Giving him eyes ruined it for me.
00:34:28
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:34:28
Ryan
yeah
00:34:29
ESPGolfTV
Because the actor said, I do can't see. he I want to see. And so they ruined the character for me, at least.
00:34:36
Ryan
i thought the really
00:34:36
ESPGolfTV
I liked it.
00:34:36
tommy cresta
I thought the remake wasn't horrible. The one that...
00:34:38
ESPGolfTV
No, I liked it.
00:34:38
Ryan
Yeah,
00:34:40
ESPGolfTV
I liked it lot.
00:34:40
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:34:41
ESPGolfTV
Sure, gender swapping is the new thing that we do these days. Whatever.
00:34:44
tommy cresta
Yo, Jender Swan was dope in that, actually.
00:34:44
Ryan
Jennifer was joking about that.
00:34:46
tommy cresta
She looked creepy as hell.
00:34:47
Ryan
Creepy as hell.
00:34:48
ESPGolfTV
They work. They work for me. And I thought the end was super crazy. The rich guy
00:34:55
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, shit.
00:34:56
tommy cresta
Yeah, pull it through.
00:34:56
Ryan
Yeah, poor girl.
00:34:56
ESPGolfTV
I've been wanting
00:34:57
tommy cresta
Oh, my God.
00:34:57
Ryan
love them.
00:34:58
tommy cresta
I love those movies.
00:34:58
Ryan
I'm going go back
00:34:59
tommy cresta
I'm going to go back and rewatch all of them.
Ghostface: Iconic Horror Character
00:35:02
ESPGolfTV
to.
00:35:02
ESPGolfTV
My girlfriend just says we've seen them too many times, is bullshit. Number four for me. And again, I think number four and three are interchangeable. Number two and one are definitely my top two because number one is number one for me.
00:35:17
ESPGolfTV
So number four, I'm going with the bank. Okay.
00:35:20
Ryan
hmm
00:35:21
ESPGolfTV
the original thing, i I love the idea that you don't know what the fuck it is, where it came from, assholes were digging the ice and uncovered whatever that thing was, you don't know who it is, it can be anybody, just the twists back and forth of the entire, and the original one, wasn't a fan of the remake, but
00:35:27
Ryan
tonight
00:35:45
ESPGolfTV
for me the thing is just one of those extremely iconic movie monsters
00:35:51
ESPGolfTV
just i just go back every time you watch it was smart i just love that movie
00:35:55
tommy cresta
It is an iconic movie.
00:35:55
Ryan
My number four is going to be Ghostface.
00:35:58
tommy cresta
John Carpenter just came out the gate swinging and just wasn't missing.
00:36:00
ESPGolfTV
Dude, he's horror goat. Horror goat.
00:36:04
tommy cresta
Yeah, now he's making the Michael Myers video game. Right now.
00:36:07
ESPGolfTV
What?
00:36:08
Ryan
yeah
00:36:08
tommy cresta
Yeah, with Unreal Engine.
00:36:08
ESPGolfTV
There you go.
00:36:09
tommy cresta
That game's going to be so much fun. How about you, Ryan?
00:36:14
Ryan
ah you ask
00:36:14
tommy cresta
What's your what's your number four?
00:36:16
Ryan
ah number four is gonna be ghost face
00:36:16
tommy cresta
number four is going to be Ghostface. I'm not choosing any one but
00:36:19
Ryan
not choosing any one of them, but just in general, ghost face, the, you know, the costumes iconic at this point.
00:36:25
tommy cresta
this point and the best part is the night's way these I can't stop doing I love the one that was that which one was this six yeah six with it at the same time that was cool to read movie was ass
00:36:26
Ryan
And the best part is the knife swipe. They just, they can't stop doing it. Um, I love the one in the, the newest, was that? Which one was this six? Yeah. Six when they do it at the same time.
00:36:37
ESPGolfTV
Thank
00:36:37
Ryan
That was just cool. Um, that movie gets sucked. Um, but yeah, ghost face is just cool.
00:36:43
tommy cresta
yeah cool I like it's always an actual piece of mystery in every movie trying to but just an iconic
00:36:44
Ryan
I liked it. It's always an actually decent mystery. Every movie. um Trying to figure out who it is. But just an iconic villain. Multiple villains doing the same thing.
00:36:57
Ryan
And just the fact that it was a real Halloween costume.
00:36:57
tommy cresta
and just the fact that it wasn't real costume they were like yeah that works yeah it would be cool yeah yeah and just became bigger itself so ghostface it's good one ghostface doesn't make my list no what was that newbie oh
00:36:59
Ryan
but They were like, yeah, that works. Let me just use that. Yeah. yeah And it just became bigger than itself. So Ghostface is going to be my number four. No? What was that?
00:37:08
ESPGolfTV
Doofy is the best ghost face.
00:37:09
Ryan
Newbie? no
00:37:13
Ryan
was that
00:37:13
ESPGolfTV
Doofy?
00:37:16
ESPGolfTV
Doofy was the best ghost face.
00:37:18
Ryan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:21
ESPGolfTV
I'm scared of the one or two.
00:37:21
Ryan
Yeah, he's the
00:37:23
tommy cresta
nice scary movie callback um excited for the new one um
00:37:25
Ryan
I'm excited to do it.
00:37:27
ESPGolfTV
Finally.
00:37:28
tommy cresta
I hope it's good.
00:37:28
Ryan
I hope. Yeah.
00:37:30
ESPGolfTV
We haven't had any of those type of movies in years.
00:37:32
tommy cresta
I know.
00:37:32
Ryan
Because I think it wanted to be the hardest school idea.
00:37:33
tommy cresta
Because I think we had Haunted House 1 and 2. That was like the last time they did like the horror spoof idea.
00:37:38
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:37:40
Ryan
Fingers crossed.
00:37:40
tommy cresta
Fingers crossed though. And kind of going off of Haunted House, my number 4 is Toby from the Paranormal Activity franchise.
00:37:41
Ryan
And kind of don't know how it's out. I don't know.
00:37:46
tommy cresta
Never actually see Toby once in these movies.
00:37:46
Ryan
Never actually would be black.
00:37:49
tommy cresta
Well, I've never watched the Mark ones, but I'm pretty sure Toby's not in that one.
00:37:49
Ryan
Well, I've never watched Warhols or Frasier Tunes. I don't know. The movie's the only one where I read it correctly.
00:37:52
tommy cresta
Toby's only in the first 4 if I remember correctly.
00:37:55
ESPGolfTV
I think you see him in those dimensions.
00:37:57
tommy cresta
Oh, yeah, because that's when they do like the black liquid version of him.
00:37:57
Ryan
Oh, yeah. That's when you get the black movie version of Warhols.
00:38:01
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, I think you see him.
00:38:01
tommy cresta
That shit was dumb as rock.
00:38:02
Ryan
It's actually the dumbest.
00:38:02
tommy cresta
Oh, and then at the end, he's like human.
00:38:04
Ryan
Oh, yeah.
00:38:05
tommy cresta
Yeah, we don't see like his face or anything.
00:38:05
Ryan
Yeah. We also have a movie.
00:38:05
ESPGolfTV
No.
00:38:06
Ryan
Yeah, that movie.
00:38:07
ESPGolfTV
No.
00:38:07
tommy cresta
Yeah, that movie. I hate that movie. I love the first four, though.
00:38:09
Ryan
I love the first one, though.
00:38:10
tommy cresta
I think I think the stories.
00:38:11
ESPGolfTV
yeah
00:38:11
Ryan
think the story is...
00:38:14
tommy cresta
Yeah, i I love the first three are great because it's a late just one story.
00:38:14
Ryan
Yeah. I love the first thing. Yeah.
00:38:18
tommy cresta
It's just figuring out who the hell they're talking about when
Influence of Paranormal Activity
00:38:21
tommy cresta
they keep talking about Toby, Toby, Toby.
00:38:21
ESPGolfTV
yeah
00:38:23
tommy cresta
But yeah, there's scenes in Paranoactivity that have stuck out in my brain forever.
00:38:23
Ryan
yeah
00:38:25
Ryan
yeah
00:38:27
tommy cresta
Like anytime I see a light turn on, I think about it to be something swinging, anything like that.
00:38:27
Ryan
like and you trying to see a lecture roll
00:38:33
tommy cresta
And the effect it's had on me and my love for the paranormal and everything like that.
00:38:33
Ryan
and
00:38:37
tommy cresta
So yeah, Toby for me is number four.
00:38:37
Ryan
yeah it's
00:38:38
tommy cresta
The next three are solidified in their spots, just like Toby was.
00:38:38
Ryan
next
00:38:42
ESPGolfTV
What's the most iconic scene for you in all of the Paranormal Activity movies?
00:38:43
Ryan
yeah
00:38:46
tommy cresta
Oh, when the, when they go, when he's like in the third, when he's trying to find the kids and the old women are in the barn, I legitimately yelled in my house.
00:38:46
Ryan
Oh, when they go- when he's like, everyone's trying to find the kids and farm, I legitimately yell in my house.
00:38:55
tommy cresta
I was so scared.
00:38:55
Ryan
I'm so scared.
00:38:55
ESPGolfTV
What? Dude,
00:38:57
tommy cresta
Or just the Micah scream when she gets yanked out of the room in the original one. It um it changed it.
00:39:01
ESPGolfTV
my the night screen was so scary. Dude, for me it's the baby's feet in night vision walking at the end of 2.
00:39:06
Ryan
the... Hmm.
00:39:10
ESPGolfTV
two
00:39:11
tommy cresta
Oh, yeah.
00:39:11
Ryan
Oh yeah.
00:39:12
ESPGolfTV
When everyone's dead and it's just the baby and then what's what's the girl's name again? The evil one?
00:39:19
tommy cresta
Yeah, the one.
00:39:19
Ryan
Yeah, the one.
00:39:20
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, she she grabs him and takes him and then she's left and makes him.
00:39:21
tommy cresta
Yeah, she grabs him.
00:39:21
Ryan
Yeah, she grabbed him.
00:39:22
tommy cresta
Because then she snaps.
00:39:23
Ryan
Then she snapped.
00:39:24
tommy cresta
that Yeah.
00:39:24
Ryan
Yeah.
00:39:24
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:24
tommy cresta
Those movies are crazy.
00:39:24
Ryan
This movie's crazy.
00:39:25
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:39:27
ESPGolfTV
Crazy. I love the Carmel City movies. Alright, dude.
00:39:30
tommy cresta
Yeah, so now we're into our top three.
00:39:31
Ryan
Yeah. Now we're inside Tomahari.
00:39:33
ESPGolfTV
Top three, honestly, they're solidified. I can't, wouldn't find any of them for, I was thinking three and two can swap, but no, no way. For three, I have the entity from It Follows.
00:39:47
Ryan
Mm.
00:39:47
tommy cresta
Mm.
00:39:48
ESPGolfTV
In my opinion, It Follows is the greatest horror film in modern era. In modern era.
00:39:52
tommy cresta
Holy.
00:39:53
ESPGolfTV
it Yeah, I think it's so scary, dude.
00:39:55
Ryan
Yeah.
00:39:57
ESPGolfTV
not Nothing, i think, has made me... I screamed, I yelled in this scene with the fucking seven-foot-tall Tony Hawkeye who pulls out.
00:40:06
tommy cresta
Oh yeah, he leans under the door.
00:40:07
ESPGolfTV
Dude. And just the whole concept of the movie is so creepy. You never know who it is. You start hallucinating. Everyone's looking at you. Yeah, I have i number number three, it follows.
00:40:20
ESPGolfTV
i After watching that movie with my buddies, just how uneasy I felt is just such a good. Now we're making a sequel called They Follow.
00:40:31
ESPGolfTV
I don't know how I feel about a sequel. I'm more of a, if it's if it ain't broke, if it's already a modern classic, why actually ruin it?
00:40:38
tommy cresta
Yeah, why make more?
00:40:38
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:41
ESPGolfTV
But hopefully it's
00:40:43
Ryan
love me
00:40:43
tommy cresta
I love Mika Monroe, and she just had long legs, and now she's going have that again.
00:40:44
Ryan
have
00:40:46
tommy cresta
so And the same director's coming back, and she's super excited to do it, so I'm going to keep my fingers crossed on it.
00:40:47
Ryan
and see
00:40:47
ESPGolfTV
good.
00:40:50
ESPGolfTV
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:53
Ryan
yeah
00:40:53
ESPGolfTV
I'm a huge fan of Longlist. I watched that, by the way. I thought it was going great, but then at the end, it just got too... don't like how they ended it, personally.
00:41:01
tommy cresta
I love that movie.
00:41:02
tommy cresta
That'd be my top ten of the year.
00:41:02
Ryan
totally
00:41:05
ESPGolfTV
First, 90% the film, all I thought it was great. and percent kind of All right. All right.
00:41:12
tommy cresta
that's what my dad That's exactly how my dad feels about it.
00:41:12
Ryan
thats my
00:41:19
tommy cresta
How about you, Ryan? What's your number three?
00:41:21
Ryan
My number three is going to be The Predator from The Predator.
00:41:21
tommy cresta
My number three is going be the Predator.
00:41:26
tommy cresta
and
00:41:26
Ryan
It's just awesome design.
00:41:26
tommy cresta
awesome design
00:41:27
Ryan
The and dreadlocks coming out, the mouth, the mandibles and everything.
00:41:27
tommy cresta
dread livess coming out the mal
00:41:29
ESPGolfTV
right
00:41:30
Ryan
But also, I think above all else, it's the sound.
00:41:30
tommy cresta
but also i think
00:41:33
Ryan
Just the clicking that he makes. That's the most iconic thing about him, in my opinion.
00:41:34
tommy cresta
that's the most
00:41:37
Ryan
Because you just, you hear that clicking noise. You're like, oh, fuck. I'm going to die. Unless I'm pregnant or unarmed, I am fucked.
00:41:41
tommy cresta
Unless I'm pregnant or unarmed, I am fucked.
00:41:46
Ryan
um Yeah, but just great movies in general.
00:41:46
tommy cresta
Yeah, but just great movies in general. Besides the, what was the one with the, not the new, not the new, not the not the new.
00:41:49
Ryan
Besides the, ah what was the, what was the one with the, like, new, not the new, not Prey. Prey was awesome.
00:41:54
tommy cresta
Predator?
00:41:54
Ryan
I did it.
00:41:55
ESPGolfTV
Don't tell me you're like predators.
00:41:55
Ryan
Yeah.
00:41:58
tommy cresta
Well, there's Predator and then there's Predators.
00:41:58
Ryan
No, Predators is pretty good.
00:42:01
tommy cresta
There's the one Shane Black made, which is not that bad.
00:42:01
Ryan
Predators. will
00:42:04
tommy cresta
Then there's one before that Adrian Brody.
00:42:06
Ryan
I like the Adrian Brody one is fun. The one, the newest one with like Olivia Munn.
00:42:08
tommy cresta
one
00:42:09
ESPGolfTV
was terrible.
00:42:09
tommy cresta
That's Shane Black. Olivia Munn. Yeah, Predators.
00:42:11
Ryan
Yeah. once
00:42:13
ESPGolfTV
So bad.
00:42:14
Ryan
Yeah. That
00:42:15
ESPGolfTV
So bad. With the super predator.
00:42:17
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:42:17
Ryan
yeah ah was that one sucks. um But yeah, Prey was awesome.
00:42:20
tommy cresta
Yeah, Prey was awesome.
00:42:22
Ryan
I'm kind of cautiously excited for the new one because I think it could be cool, but doesn't look fantastic.
00:42:22
tommy cresta
I'm kind of cautiously excited for the new one because I think could be cool.
00:42:26
ESPGolfTV
I was
00:42:26
tommy cresta
And they're connecting the worlds again, is exciting. They're connecting the alien in them.
00:42:29
Ryan
Yeah, with Alien. Yeah.
00:42:30
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:42:31
Ryan
yeah But the Predator is just awesome.
00:42:31
tommy cresta
The Predators.
00:42:32
Ryan
Just a badass. It's one of those cool like action horror movie characters that actually just works every time.
00:42:34
tommy cresta
cool
00:42:38
Ryan
So, love that. Love those movies. That's my number three.
00:42:42
tommy cresta
It's good one.
00:42:42
Ryan
Cool.
00:42:43
ESPGolfTV
discussion with my buddies about Predator. I love Predator. It's one of, I don't consider it horror, which is why it's not on my list. So I, it's in my top, top five all time characters as it but as it is but I was having this funny conversation with buddies where it's like they're supposed to be the most advanced hunting race in the galaxy and they lose a lot to a lot advanced people
00:43:07
Ryan
Yeah. No, yeah so I though.
00:43:12
tommy cresta
No, I was shocked that they are the Predator lost in Prey.
00:43:13
Ryan
Hmm. It's not we can't. It's not you can't.
00:43:16
tommy cresta
I thought for sure they were winning.
00:43:17
Ryan
But they did say it.
00:43:19
ESPGolfTV
dude I want you so you so good
00:43:20
Ryan
the
00:43:20
tommy cresta
Did either one of you watch the yet that just came out? I it pretty though.
00:43:23
Ryan
now hair is pretty good though yeah
00:43:25
tommy cresta
Yeah, had a pretty crazy post-credits scene setting up a future movie. It's not what we you think.
00:43:30
Ryan
so
00:43:30
ESPGolfTV
I love
00:43:32
tommy cresta
It's not Alien vs. Predator. They already confirmed that that's happening. But they did so it does set up like more story.
00:43:35
ESPGolfTV
Alien 1's Predator. and I think that Alvarez says he wants to collaborate with the director.
00:43:44
tommy cresta
Yeah, like do it together.
00:43:44
Ryan
Yeah.
00:43:45
ESPGolfTV
Favorite movie the year.
00:43:45
Ryan
I'm just kidding.
00:43:45
tommy cresta
Yeah, I'm so down. I think Romulus was fantastic.
00:43:46
Ryan
I think Ron was fantastic.
00:43:50
ESPGolfTV
Favorite movie of the year for me.
00:43:50
tommy cresta
I think it was my third, if I remember correctly.
00:43:51
Ryan
I think it was like third.
00:43:53
tommy cresta
Third.
00:43:54
ESPGolfTV
Top two alien movies for me of all time. I think it's better than Aliens. In my opinion.
00:43:58
tommy cresta
Ooh.
00:43:58
Ryan
Third. I just watched both of them.
00:43:58
tommy cresta
I just watched both of them yesterday.
00:44:02
ESPGolfTV
I think it's really nice.
00:44:02
tommy cresta
um Number three to me is the movie that's had the biggest impact on like scaring me and it's Bruce Jaws the shark.
00:44:09
Ryan
Every time I've got an audio folder,
00:44:10
tommy cresta
i Every time I've gotten in a body of water, It doesn't matter if I'm getting in a lake.
00:44:13
Ryan
It doesn't matter if I'm getting in LA. It doesn't matter if I'm getting pool.
00:44:15
tommy cresta
It doesn't matter if I'm getting in a pool. It doesn't matter getting in the ocean.
00:44:18
Ryan
It doesn't matter if I'm getting in pool.
00:44:19
tommy cresta
i think of this damn shark and it eating me.
00:44:19
Ryan
It doesn't matter if I'm getting in a pool. It doesn't matter I'm getting in pool.
00:44:23
tommy cresta
And i mean, it's one of the most influential films of all time.
00:44:25
Ryan
It doesn't matter I'm getting in a pool. It's of the most influential people I've ever seen.
00:44:27
tommy cresta
People who've seen it think about it every time they go in the water.
00:44:29
Ryan
People are trying to think about it.
00:44:31
tommy cresta
Yeah, that movie terrifies me.
00:44:31
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah, that would be sad about me.
00:44:32
tommy cresta
It's probably my number two movie of all time.
00:44:33
Ryan
My environment is doing all the time.
00:44:36
tommy cresta
And I'm just obsessed with it.
00:44:36
Ryan
And I'm obsessed with
00:44:38
tommy cresta
But I don't love it much as my two and my number one.
00:44:38
Ryan
But don't live as much as say. Two and one.
00:44:41
tommy cresta
So now moving into number two, what do we got for you guys?
00:44:42
Ryan
So now we're waiting. Number two, what we have for you guys?
00:44:45
ESPGolfTV
Tommy, and I think you and are the same one and two movies of all time, just by hearing Just by hearing...
00:44:50
tommy cresta
Yeah, I think we talked about that when we were talking about it because I think it's Alien and Jaws have some slid up and probably beat past it apart in the last couple of years.
00:44:50
Ryan
Yeah, I think we're talking about it.
00:44:52
ESPGolfTV
think we're the same one.
00:44:52
Ryan
I think it's alien. it's part of it.
00:44:54
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, so...
00:44:55
Ryan
went on
00:44:59
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, no, and and the cool thing about... Well, not the cool thing, sad thing about Jaws was it's the reason a lot of species shark went in danger and almost after that first movie came out part the huge
00:45:12
tommy cresta
Yeah, like a manhunt.
00:45:13
Ryan
Yeah.
00:45:13
ESPGolfTV
weight hunters for for sharks, which is terrible.
00:45:13
Ryan
Yeah.
00:45:18
ESPGolfTV
They're my favorite animal. Huge shark advocate.
00:45:20
tommy cresta
Yeah, big shark guy.
00:45:21
Ryan
Yeah. yeah
00:45:22
tommy cresta
Big shark week family.
00:45:22
Ryan
shot
00:45:24
ESPGolfTV
Baby shark. I never miss it. I have a huge shark tooth collection. i have a megalodon tooth.
00:45:29
tommy cresta
Holy shit.
00:45:30
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, dude. I love sharks. I could go on forever on sharks and dinosaurs.
00:45:33
Ryan
but
00:45:35
ESPGolfTV
That's like my... You know how every dude has their obsession? That's like my special
00:45:39
Ryan
yeah
00:45:41
ESPGolfTV
Um, and Dragon Ball. Anyway, so my number two, my number two is Bruce.
00:45:43
Ryan
Yeah,
00:45:46
ESPGolfTV
That's my number two.
00:45:47
tommy cresta
Oh, we go.
00:45:49
ESPGolfTV
The iconic, uh, just music behind it.
Jaws and its Legacy
00:45:54
ESPGolfTV
i don't know how they managed to make it so perfect in the first movie. You barely see him. And when you do see him, it looks real.
00:46:01
ESPGolfTV
Dude, the scene in the bay where it's, um, the cop's son,
00:46:08
tommy cresta
Yeah, Michael.
00:46:09
ESPGolfTV
like um like the banana go whatever and it's that other dude ah falls off and
00:46:14
tommy cresta
Yeah, he's...
00:46:14
Ryan
Yeah.
00:46:15
ESPGolfTV
either side profile the shark mouth open kind of go under, hey, dude, chills, chills. Great
Modern Shark Movies Critique
00:46:23
ESPGolfTV
film.
00:46:23
tommy cresta
I love Jaws 2. I know it's like a hot take. I think Jaws 2 is – it's nowhere close to the first one.
00:46:26
Ryan
no
00:46:28
tommy cresta
The first one is almost a perfect movie. Jaws 2 though scared me because when I did like the parasailing little thing, I thought about the scene where they keep dunking them in the war and then the shark – oh my god.
00:46:30
Ryan
yeah like not people
00:46:37
tommy cresta
Jaws 1 and 2 are like movies I've probably seen 100 times each.
00:46:41
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, i've seen I've seen Jaws upwards of 100 times for sure.
00:46:41
Ryan
yeah
00:46:41
tommy cresta
I watched the shit out those movies.
00:46:44
ESPGolfTV
Great film, love it. It's because of Jaws, I watch every new shark movie that comes out.
00:46:51
tommy cresta
And you're just as disappointed every time.
00:46:51
ESPGolfTV
So every time, like, what, Shark Night?
00:46:51
Ryan
And just the point every time. Yeah. So bad, dude.
00:46:57
ESPGolfTV
remember watching that in theaters in my best friend.
00:46:59
Ryan
I couldn't think of it.
00:46:59
tommy cresta
Shark night in 3D.
00:47:00
Ryan
I love it.
00:47:00
tommy cresta
I made him watch it at like 10 in the morning down the shore.
00:47:01
Ryan
Yeah, they play.
00:47:04
ESPGolfTV
I bought it in the freaking Blockbuster Blue Off sale 10 years ago.
00:47:07
Ryan
yes
00:47:09
ESPGolfTV
I bought Shark Night. A terrible, terrible movie, but I thought it was movie, but it was classic.
00:47:12
Ryan
so bad dude
00:47:15
tommy cresta
The shallows wasn't horrible.
00:47:15
ESPGolfTV
And then
00:47:16
Ryan
ah show
00:47:17
tommy cresta
um I could have been because...
00:47:17
ESPGolfTV
That looking bad. It's not a big...
00:47:19
tommy cresta
I loved Blake Lively in a bikini, I think, when I was 15.
00:47:19
Ryan
i
00:47:21
tommy cresta
That could have been the whole thing.
00:47:22
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:22
ESPGolfTV
mean, it's not hard to be bad.
00:47:24
Ryan
yeah
00:47:25
ESPGolfTV
I didn't... The way end it ended was funny. Just the way with the shark just kind of rammed into a bunch of rebar.
00:47:32
tommy cresta
Yeah, it's on fire, and it's CGI'd like a motherfucker.
00:47:32
Ryan
yeah yeah
00:47:36
ESPGolfTV
No, but that, Deep Blue, is...
Debate: Mike Myers and Halloween Series
00:47:41
tommy cresta
God.
00:47:43
ESPGolfTV
I love that movie so much. It's so bad. It's so bad, it's good. Samuel Jackson just yelling and giving you everything in every movie. And then, first CGI shark you've ever seen.
00:47:52
Ryan
Oh, me and
00:47:55
ESPGolfTV
What else?
00:47:58
ESPGolfTV
what else I you guys have seen the new one. Dangerous Animals.
00:48:02
tommy cresta
Dangerous. yeah Me and him already, me have been saying it's going terrible.
00:48:04
ESPGolfTV
I just watched it. I watched it opening night with my girlfriend. And I didn't like it.
00:48:12
Ryan
to be terrible.
00:48:15
ESPGolfTV
It's not terrible. It's not a terrible movie i just thought for a movie where i thought the premise was very cool, very original. Serial killer who uses sharks to kill and his victims.
00:48:27
ESPGolfTV
I thought that was sick. And he himself is a shark attack survivor, which is, i guess, where his whole thing comes back from. You don't see that many sharks, man. Like, they they really cheap out on the sharks. Like, you see them from up top, you see the fins.
00:48:38
Ryan
Yeah.
00:48:41
ESPGolfTV
And at the end, there's a great white you see for one second. And then it's a big split. And usually the Great White horrible CGI, so you see why don't see that.
00:48:50
tommy cresta
Yeah, like it was just a budget concern.
00:48:50
Ryan
Yeah. That was a good one.
00:48:52
ESPGolfTV
Yeah. So, yeah, number two, go us.
00:48:54
tommy cresta
That's the worst feeling. That's good one. My number two would be Michael Myers.
00:48:58
Ryan
a go My number two is going to be Michael Myers from Halloween.
00:49:02
tommy cresta
From Halloween, another Matt Carpenter.
00:49:04
Ryan
Another Matt Carpenter. Like you said, he's the GOAT.
00:49:06
tommy cresta
John Carpenter? Matt Carpenter's the second baseman.
00:49:07
Ryan
Yep, Matt Carpenter.
00:49:09
tommy cresta
Speaking of baseball, Craig Turner and Humphrey, take that.
00:49:09
Ryan
He is a second baseman. um Speaking of baseball, Trey Turner, Homer, take that in the first inning. um
00:49:16
tommy cresta
Oh.
00:49:16
tommy cresta
Yeah, but Mike Myers is the best Carter villain.
00:49:16
Ryan
Yeah, but Mike Myers is just the best horror villain.
00:49:20
Ryan
I mean, he's just the definition of evil.
00:49:20
tommy cresta
mean, he's just the definition of evil. He's not my number one, but the definition evil.
00:49:22
Ryan
He's not my number one, but the definition of evil like
00:49:25
tommy cresta
Like, you have, like, your, where you phrase, you know, his poking ass.
00:49:25
Ryan
You have like your your Jason Voorhees where he's just like this hulking mass. and it's like He's scary because he's just huge and runs.
00:49:29
tommy cresta
It's like, he's scary because he runs that.
00:49:32
Ryan
ah He doesn't run.
00:49:32
tommy cresta
He doesn't want it, but.
00:49:33
Ryan
The remake he runs.
00:49:33
tommy cresta
Yeah, he does. The remake is. But, um.
00:49:35
Ryan
It teleports sometimes.
00:49:36
tommy cresta
teleports.
00:49:37
ESPGolfTV
So bad. So bad.
00:49:38
tommy cresta
and
00:49:38
Ryan
Depends on what you believe. um but Mike Myers just walks everywhere. he's just He's terrifying. You can't stop him ever. um Just the definition of evil. Great in the first movie.
00:49:49
Ryan
Fun in the second movie. and Then the Danny McBride requel. equal was good The first one was good. Halloween Kills is kind of fun, but it's not great. And Halloween Ends is the biggest piece of dog shit I've ever seen in my life.
00:50:02
Ryan
But, um yeah.
00:50:02
ESPGolfTV
yeah so bad so
00:50:06
Ryan
It's horrible. It starts at peak and the late goes like that. love that first movie.
00:50:14
ESPGolfTV
I think your mic's off.
00:50:14
Ryan
The first movie's great. Yeah.
00:50:18
ESPGolfTV
Tommy, I think your mic's off.
00:50:19
Ryan
Yeah, you're muted.
00:50:20
tommy cresta
I'm muted, actually.
00:50:20
Ryan
I'm muted, actually.
00:50:22
ESPGolfTV
There you go. No, was...
00:50:23
tommy cresta
My bad.
00:50:23
Ryan
My bad.
00:50:25
ESPGolfTV
The three new ones that they came out with, the first one out of the three new ones, to me, was fantastic.
00:50:30
tommy cresta
Yep.
00:50:31
ESPGolfTV
I loved it. I thought it was great.
00:50:35
Ryan
Yeah.
00:50:35
tommy cresta
Yeah, no, I think that was ah it was the best way to do a recall.
00:50:35
Ryan
Yeah, no, I think that was the best way.
00:50:40
tommy cresta
My number two is also Michael Myers.
00:50:40
Ryan
My number two is also Michael Myers.
00:50:44
tommy cresta
Up until literally...
00:50:44
Ryan
Up until literally
00:50:48
tommy cresta
Two years ago, was probably my number one.
00:50:48
Ryan
two years ago, was probably my number one.
00:50:49
tommy cresta
And then I found a new love in the horror genre that I think is the best version of a horror villain.
00:50:50
Ryan
I found the new Love and the Horror John.
00:50:55
Ryan
Best version of a horror. villain
00:50:57
tommy cresta
But I'll get to that.
00:50:57
Ryan
get to that michael myers is like com
00:50:58
tommy cresta
Michael Myers is iconic. The first movie is in my top ten of all time. I absolutely love it.
00:51:01
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:03
tommy cresta
And yeah, Ryan already said enough.
00:51:04
Ryan
yeah mike ryaner is said no itships up
00:51:05
tommy cresta
It's just a perfect horror slasher.
00:51:10
ESPGolfTV
Nice. Nice.
Xenomorph from Alien: The Ultimate Villain
00:51:12
tommy cresta
But yeah, now we're down to our number one best horror villain's
00:51:12
Ryan
yeah yeah we're down to our number one
00:51:16
tommy cresta
And yeah, starting off with you.
00:51:17
Ryan
yeah up with you
00:51:19
ESPGolfTV
For me, it's unanimous. Like, it's not even a question. This wasn't even something that was hard for me to come up with. It's the xenomorph. Like, that's number one. The xenomorph's number one. I mean, it's the perfect life form, quite literally.
00:51:30
Ryan
yeah
00:51:33
ESPGolfTV
does not lose
00:51:34
tommy cresta
The perfect organism.
00:51:35
Ryan
so
00:51:39
ESPGolfTV
It wins every single time. I think it's terrifying. Just everything behind it. I also want to just put this out there.
00:51:53
ESPGolfTV
Covenant's the biggest piece of dog shit to ever happen.
00:51:56
Ryan
Whoa!
00:51:56
tommy cresta
Whoa! That is a wild take.
00:51:58
Ryan
That's a wild take.
00:52:00
ESPGolfTV
I don't think that's that crazy of a take. I think Covenant ruins a lot of it. So i in my head canon, Covenant doesn't exist.
00:52:08
tommy cresta
Well, they're making a sequel to
00:52:08
Ryan
Well, they're making a sequel to it.
00:52:11
ESPGolfTV
They're making this sequel to Covenant or Ron?
00:52:12
tommy cresta
Yeah, Ridley Scott's coming back to doing a one for Covenant and then Fetty Alvarez doing a sequel to Romulus.
00:52:12
Ryan
Yeah, but at least Scott's coming back. And then there's sequel. Hmm.
00:52:19
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, i think I think Ridley Scott's got to stay away from his own franchise. He's doing what a lot of great directors do when they don't know when to quit, which is ruining their own shit. That's what happened in Star Wars, in my opinion.
00:52:33
ESPGolfTV
I think just Xenomorph... before covenant i to explain you don't know what it is. You don't know where it came from. You don't know why it's so aggressive.
00:52:45
ESPGolfTV
It stalks everyone. and picks you off one by one. It's, for the most part, like, resistant to everything except fire, which, I mean, unless you're, don't how they had a flamethrower, they had a flamethrower, right?
00:53:01
ESPGolfTV
But it just doesn't die. Like, it just keeps coming. And it and it comes from, like, little worm thing that it starts and then just turns into this fucking giant predator.
00:53:12
tommy cresta
Yeah, because it ages at like an insane speed.
00:53:12
Ryan
Yeah, because the ages are insane.
00:53:15
ESPGolfTV
It doesn't need to eat. doesn't need to drink. It just wants to kill. It wants to kill everything. And I personally love it so much. And Covenant fucking ruined the mystery behind it.
00:53:26
ESPGolfTV
You tell me Waylon created it? Like, that's so stupid.
00:53:30
tommy cresta
no ah No, you find out Prometheus that it comes from like the big disgusting thing.
00:53:30
Ryan
No, it becomes disgusting.
00:53:37
ESPGolfTV
No, that's the deacon. Yeah,
00:53:39
tommy cresta
Oh, I forgot the demons are the little ones.
00:53:39
Ryan
Oh, no.
00:53:41
ESPGolfTV
yeah that's the deacon. the The xenomorph was created David.
00:53:46
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:53:46
Ryan
Yeah.
00:53:48
Ryan
Because there is technically something new or, like forms.
00:53:48
tommy cresta
Because there is technically, it's like 60 something xenomorphs.
00:53:52
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, I think...
00:53:52
tommy cresta
Like forms. I went through like a whole thing of them one day.
00:53:54
Ryan
I went through like a whole
00:53:54
ESPGolfTV
Yeah. No, no, yeah, no. It's the deacon, which, you know, canada canonically, it turned into a mountain, which, I don't know.
00:54:03
Ryan
thing. Yeah.
00:54:04
ESPGolfTV
Maybe. Take that what you will. The deacon that you see at the end of Prometheus, it turns into a mountain. And Prometheus fucking slams. I love that movie. But it's the xenomorph, the protomorph, more the predmorph, the xenopredator or whatever.
00:54:20
Ryan
Yeah.
00:54:20
tommy cresta
Predator cross thing, yeah.
00:54:23
ESPGolfTV
I love that one.
00:54:25
tommy cresta
There's one that's bigger than what we see in Alien vs.
00:54:25
Ryan
There's one that's bigger than what we see in Alien vs.
00:54:29
tommy cresta
Predator.
00:54:29
Ryan
Legendary. There's this giant version.
00:54:30
tommy cresta
There's this giant version. It's like they say it's the size of a planet that lives in space.
00:54:31
Ryan
It's like, they say it's a tiny planet that lives in space.
00:54:35
tommy cresta
It's in like an anime.
00:54:35
Ryan
It's in like an island.
00:54:36
tommy cresta
It is wild.
00:54:38
ESPGolfTV
That's crazy. I haven't even seen that one.
00:54:39
Ryan
It is wild.
00:54:40
tommy cresta
it's I mean, it just wraps around the Earth.
00:54:40
Ryan
I mean, it's rational in the Earth.
00:54:43
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:54:44
tommy cresta
It's so cool.
00:54:44
Ryan
It's so cool. Yeah.
00:54:45
ESPGolfTV
That's crazy. And then there's obviously the crocodiles, the Enomorph that fights Batman.
00:54:48
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:54:48
Ryan
yeah Yeah.
00:54:49
ESPGolfTV
I don't know if you guys saw Batman.
00:54:50
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:51
tommy cresta
There's the white ones from Covenant, which I thought were really cool to see.
00:54:52
Ryan
help them
00:54:53
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, Enomorphs.
00:54:55
tommy cresta
Yeah, those things were frightening looking.
00:54:55
Ryan
yeah
00:54:57
tommy cresta
That's a great scene when you first get introduced to all of them.
00:54:57
ESPGolfTV
Yeah,
00:54:57
Ryan
that's a great
00:55:00
ESPGolfTV
yeah I like it. I mean, and again, i I hate the fact that David created it. I like not knowing where they come from.
00:55:06
tommy cresta
Yeah, it's kind of like Rob Zombie's Halloween.
00:55:06
Ryan
<unk>s coming how
00:55:07
tommy cresta
People hated knowing Michael's full story.
00:55:11
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, so, but Undeniable, number one.
00:55:12
tommy cresta
I hate that movie.
00:55:14
ESPGolfTV
I love the Xenomorph. I think aliening Alien is my favorite film of all time. Xenomorph, number one.
00:55:21
Ryan
Yeah.
00:55:22
tommy cresta
What's your number one? It's phenomenal choice.
00:55:24
Ryan
It's a phenomenal choice. It's the Xenomorph.
00:55:26
tommy cresta
yeah I mean, it has number one.
00:55:27
Ryan
I mean, it it has to be number one. you I can't say anything more than you said.
00:55:30
tommy cresta
I can't say anything.
00:55:31
Ryan
It's just the best. It's the coolest thing.
00:55:33
tommy cresta
It's the coolest thing.
00:55:34
Ryan
The design is just perfect in every single way.
00:55:34
tommy cresta
The design is just perfect in every single way.
00:55:34
ESPGolfTV
It's big play.
00:55:36
Ryan
and like It's the perfect predator.
00:55:38
tommy cresta
It's the perfect predator.
00:55:39
tommy cresta
Even when it dies, it's blood. It's acid. It doesn't matter.
00:55:39
Ryan
Even when it dies, its blood is acidic.
00:55:42
Ryan
You still die. It doesn't matter.
00:55:43
tommy cresta
Like,
00:55:44
Ryan
like it's It's just the coolest creature ever. Well, shit, I think
00:55:49
tommy cresta
Well, shit, I think the first time in almost 200 episodes and 30-something rankings, it's an agreement across all three that the Xenomorph is the best horror villain.
00:55:50
Ryan
first time in almost 200 episodes, 30 seconds. It's an agreement across all three that the Xenomorph is the best audio we know.
00:56:00
tommy cresta
and
00:56:00
Ryan
And is, it's the best audio we know.
00:56:01
tommy cresta
It is. It's the best thing in the world. It's the perfect organism.
00:56:03
Ryan
It's the perfect audio.
00:56:04
tommy cresta
It's terrifying looking.
00:56:04
Ryan
It's terrifying. It sounds great.
00:56:05
tommy cresta
It sounds scary. Facehuggers create them, which makes them even more creepy.
00:56:07
Ryan
Facehawker is really dumb. It makes it even more creepy.
00:56:10
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
00:56:11
tommy cresta
Facehuggers are disgusting looking things.
00:56:11
Ryan
Facehawker is disgusting and ugly.
00:56:13
tommy cresta
The little versions of them are ugly.
00:56:13
Ryan
A little version of the ugly.
00:56:15
tommy cresta
They can fight the Predator.
00:56:15
ESPGolfTV
yeah
00:56:15
Ryan
They can fight the Predator, they can fight Batman, or it's not a part of the creature.
00:56:16
tommy cresta
They fight Batman. What is not perfect about this creature?
00:56:21
Ryan
It's even more often.
00:56:21
tommy cresta
Xenomorph awesome. and it's
00:56:22
Ryan
It goes in video games, and it's just a scary one against it.
00:56:23
tommy cresta
First off, it goes in video games and it's just as scary playing against it. It's great in books, everything.
00:56:27
ESPGolfTV
Dude.
00:56:27
Ryan
It's great in books.
00:56:29
tommy cresta
Alien is the best sci-fi franchise to me.
00:56:29
Ryan
Alien is the best sci-fi I've ever seen. Because I don't count as far as sci-fi film, Star Wars, space opera, like that.
00:56:33
tommy cresta
Because I don't count Star Wars as sci-fi. Star Wars is space opera, technically.
00:56:39
ESPGolfTV
Star Wars is hot garbage after the prequel that
Star Wars Opinions and Disney's Role
00:56:45
ESPGolfTV
made.
00:56:45
tommy cresta
We might need to have him on to do a whole Star Wars episode.
00:56:46
ESPGolfTV
7, 8, and 9.
00:56:48
tommy cresta
Yeah, got talk again.
00:56:48
Ryan
Yeah, we got to talk again.
00:56:49
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:56:50
ESPGolfTV
Funny, my stepdad is a diehard Star Wars fan. He has an autographed Darth Vader picture. He's got like every Star
00:57:03
ESPGolfTV
birthdays like star wars <unk> head the legohead star wars whatever
00:57:08
Ryan
Yeah.
00:57:09
ESPGolfTV
i don't know to fit sorry I'm a huge episode 3 guy, don't get me
00:57:13
tommy cresta
Oh, you gotta come back on and talk Star Wars, man.
00:57:13
Ryan
Oh, you got to come back on the stars. Yeah, we got probably the
00:57:16
tommy cresta
This is gonna be a whole different episode.
00:57:16
ESPGolfTV
wrong. But other than that, I think Disney just ruined that, dude.
00:57:25
tommy cresta
Yeah, you you got probably the biggest Star Wars person I know in Ryan, and then one of the biggest Episode 3 defenders in me.
00:57:25
Ryan
biggest starter for the time. I hope this is great. One of the biggest episodes in three
00:57:33
ESPGolfTV
rocks, dude. Dude, mean,
00:57:34
tommy cresta
Episode 3 does rock, Ryan.
00:57:34
Ryan
that I've ever seen.
00:57:36
tommy cresta
You see? said
00:57:37
Ryan
Episode four is the best. i don't really care.
00:57:38
tommy cresta
No, it's not.
00:57:38
Ryan
No, it's...
00:57:39
ESPGolfTV
i Personally, i don't think any of the originals are any good. Like, I like, you
00:57:44
tommy cresta
Whoa! Whoa, that is a wild thing.
00:57:46
Ryan
Whoa! Now we can fight together. Whoa!
00:57:48
ESPGolfTV
know, for the time, for the time that they came out, they're great. But dude, looking at them now, like, and it's not coming from like, oh, this guy is, just watch this modern movie. I'm a huge fan of like, OG, like, Alien, 1978 or whatever, it's favorite film of all time.
00:58:04
ESPGolfTV
But I just, again, it's about a dude who fucks his sister and his dad's acting...
00:58:11
Ryan
all the
00:58:11
tommy cresta
Whoa, they never have sex.
00:58:13
ESPGolfTV
Alright, whatever.
00:58:13
Ryan
They only kiss one time.
00:58:13
tommy cresta
They only kiss one time.
00:58:14
Ryan
It's not that creepy.
00:58:14
tommy cresta
It's not that creepy.
00:58:18
tommy cresta
I'm so clenching, Matt.
00:58:18
ESPGolfTV
It's pretty creepy.
00:58:19
Ryan
and No. so Do you remember the one time we were watching?
00:58:20
tommy cresta
And we were watching his dad walk down to do laundry or something and then sat and watched with us once at like two minutes.
00:58:22
Ryan
and we were watching Empire Strikes Back in your basement, and his his dad walked down to do laundry or something and then sat and watched with us for one second, like two minutes. And then they kiss, and he just goes, ew, and walks back upstairs.
00:58:31
tommy cresta
And then they kissed and he just goes, you
00:58:34
Ryan
He was just waiting just to do that.
00:58:34
tommy cresta
just waiting
00:58:35
ESPGolfTV
No, I...
00:58:36
Ryan
God.
00:58:38
ESPGolfTV
Listen, I think Empire's the best out of the three original movies. mean, I don't think that's really a hot take. I think pretty much everyone agrees with that.
00:58:47
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:47
tommy cresta
yeah
00:58:48
Ryan
It's universal.
00:58:48
ESPGolfTV
But the first two, I think, were the most boring movies ever to get through. Like, I couldn't. I thought they were super slow. i thought they were slow burns. And if we go to the sequels, or the prequels, I mean, why was a freaking slow burn. That shit was slow.
00:59:05
Ryan
Yeah.
00:59:05
ESPGolfTV
That was
00:59:05
Ryan
Yeah.
00:59:07
tommy cresta
Two's an even slower burn.
00:59:09
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, I was even, I don't know how they made it even slower than the 1970s. And then, personally, I like 2. I like 2 a lot.
00:59:18
tommy cresta
Oh, my.
00:59:18
Ryan
Oh, my God. Yeah.
00:59:20
ESPGolfTV
I like the War 2.
00:59:21
tommy cresta
The credibility is going down.
00:59:23
ESPGolfTV
I like when they were all fighting. Listen, I'm of the belief that Star Wars should be Jedi all over the place fighting. That's why I like the Old Republic stuff.
00:59:34
ESPGolfTV
The Old Republic shit's sick. This whole way that Disney's going, we're like, oh, every Jedi's dead.
00:59:36
Ryan
yeah
00:59:40
ESPGolfTV
Now we're just going, every every show that we do, every movie that we do is bounty hunter shit. I think it's so boring. Like, I don't like that. I like Republic, guns of light, lightsabers everywhere. I can go deep into Star Wars that way. can deep into Star Wars that way.
00:59:56
tommy cresta
Yeah, that's that might have to be its own episode we go on into now, because now we know we have something else we can all argue about.
00:59:57
Ryan
and um yes all that Just sit down and argue for five hours. because you
01:00:06
tommy cresta
Unedited.
01:00:08
ESPGolfTV
I'm at an end with this fight fest. I mean, what's your favorite Star Wars character? Don't ask that.
01:00:15
Ryan
an isn right
01:00:15
tommy cresta
there' an and There's a right answer to this question.
01:00:18
Ryan
There is a right answer.
01:00:18
tommy cresta
There is a right
01:00:20
Ryan
ah Babu Freak is pretty cool.
01:00:21
tommy cresta
answer. Babu Freak is her.
01:00:22
Ryan
He's the man. now um
01:00:23
tommy cresta
Who doesn't love Babu Freak? it
01:00:25
Ryan
It's just so funny. No, I mean, Luke's great.
01:00:28
tommy cresta
No, mean, Luke's great. I mean, I think, genuinely, you're asking favorite character, it has to be Darth Vader.
01:00:29
Ryan
I mean, I think, genuinely, if you're asking favorite character, it has to be Darth Vader. I mean, he's the greatest villain of all time.
01:00:33
tommy cresta
He's the greatest villain of all time.
01:00:35
Ryan
Like, come on, dude. you know
01:00:37
tommy cresta
Xenomorph beats Darth Vader in a one-on-one.
01:00:38
ESPGolfTV
Alright, let me ask you genuinely.
01:00:40
Ryan
No.
01:00:40
tommy cresta
No.
01:00:41
Ryan
Vader's just gonna pick him up and throw him out into space.
01:00:41
tommy cresta
Vader's just gonna pick him and throw all out of his face.
01:00:43
Ryan
It's over. It's done. Just, nope, fuck you.
01:00:45
tommy cresta
Just no, fuck you.
01:00:47
ESPGolfTV
What have we seen in the and episode 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, forget everything else, what have we seen Darth Vader actually do?
01:00:56
tommy cresta
Dog a bunch of kids.
01:00:56
Ryan
all good yeah waste all
01:00:58
tommy cresta
Wait, pause.
01:00:59
Ryan
one
01:01:00
ESPGolfTV
We saw Anthony in episode 3 murder a bunch of four-year-olds.
01:01:01
Ryan
got it
01:01:01
tommy cresta
That's not how I meant it.
01:01:02
Ryan
You gotta rephrase that, man.
01:01:07
ESPGolfTV
And lose to Obi-Wan the coolest fight scene of all time. But what have we seen him do in the movies?
01:01:12
tommy cresta
Second best fight scene of all time.
01:01:15
ESPGolfTV
Everyone calls him the greatest villain all time.
01:01:16
tommy cresta
He dogs Luke.
01:01:17
ESPGolfTV
don't get
01:01:17
Ryan
Dog loop?
01:01:18
ESPGolfTV
He's sick.
01:01:18
Ryan
It does dog loop.
01:01:18
tommy cresta
He does dogs Luke.
01:01:19
ESPGolfTV
Yeah. What do you
01:01:21
Ryan
Dog's everyone.
01:01:22
tommy cresta
Dogs Obi-Wan.
01:01:22
Ryan
Dog's the empire. but Dog's the empire.
01:01:25
tommy cresta
Dogs the Emperor.
01:01:27
Ryan
I'm
01:01:27
ESPGolfTV
I think that's why he's good at the end. So that's not him being a villain. That's him being a good guy again.
01:01:32
tommy cresta
Well, the villain awards emperor.
01:01:32
Ryan
not going to defend you that one.
01:01:34
ESPGolfTV
yeah When we talk about Obi-Wan.
01:01:36
Ryan
Oh, we want to let him in.
01:01:36
tommy cresta
It's two sides of every coin.
01:01:37
Ryan
Sure. No.
01:01:37
tommy cresta
Obi-Wan
01:01:38
ESPGolfTV
Obi-Wan let him win at the end there.
01:01:40
Ryan
but we want to let
01:01:41
tommy cresta
did it. Obi-Wan.
01:01:42
Ryan
sure that's all yeah
01:01:42
tommy cresta
Let's all be honest. Obi-Wan was not winning that fight no matter what he tried.
01:01:46
Ryan
no man
01:01:46
tommy cresta
That man had stiff bones.
01:01:49
ESPGolfTV
So did Darth Vader. That whole fight, that fight was so bad.
01:01:51
tommy cresta
Yo, Darth Vader. Well, yeah, the fight scene is not great.
01:01:51
Ryan
yeah help
01:01:53
ESPGolfTV
I'm so mad.
01:01:55
tommy cresta
They also had a budget of like nothing.
01:01:55
Ryan
yes
01:01:58
ESPGolfTV
Have seen the YouTube remake of that fight?
01:01:58
Ryan
Yeah.
01:02:00
tommy cresta
Yeah, that's awesome.
01:02:00
Ryan
Yeah. i have.
01:02:00
ESPGolfTV
It's so good.
01:02:01
Ryan
It's pretty cool.
01:02:02
tommy cresta
Obi-Wan wasn't moving around like that.
01:02:03
Ryan
No. No. Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:04
ESPGolfTV
Nah. No. Okay. I don't know.
01:02:07
tommy cresta
But see, it's not it's hard to like, if you're just going off that, because they're what Vader's whole point was to not show him so much in the beginning, because he only has, what, seven minutes in the first one, and like 12 minutes in the second one, so that's 19 minutes of screen time.
01:02:07
Ryan
is what you just go love that showing so much
01:02:15
Ryan
yeah
01:02:19
Ryan
go end down you
01:02:19
tommy cresta
But when now when you make Ahsoka, which is not a good show, and Obi-Wan aren't good shows, you get more of that Vader that you see, where he's snapping 12-year-old boy's necks, and then he's going in down the walkway in Rogue One,
01:02:20
Ryan
so
01:02:23
Ryan
each get
01:02:29
Ryan
and Oh, yeah, yeah,
01:02:33
tommy cresta
manhandling people with one hand.
01:02:34
ESPGolfTV
map the best Vader scene we've ever had.
01:02:37
tommy cresta
Yeah, which I...
01:02:37
Ryan
yeah. oh Yeah.
01:02:38
ESPGolfTV
That third time.
01:02:38
Ryan
yeah
01:02:38
tommy cresta
Tony Gilroy wants to make a Vader horror movie where Vader's just hunting down people.
01:02:40
Ryan
you know
01:02:43
ESPGolfTV
I don't know how we haven't had a rated R Vader movie. Just give us a rated R
01:02:48
tommy cresta
Oh my god, head's just being chopped.
01:02:48
ESPGolfTV
alright Start it right when he finds out Padme's dead, and then just fucking give us two hours after that, whatever the fuck happens. Just have him hold his drink.
01:02:57
tommy cresta
I want to see him go to Padme's grave still when he tries to take his own life.
01:02:57
Ryan
Yeah, just going through. Oh, yeah. know what you're talking about.
01:03:01
tommy cresta
When he takes the helmet off and he like goes and sees her.
01:03:04
ESPGolfTV
Yeah. I want to see the back.
01:03:05
tommy cresta
We're never getting that shit.
01:03:07
ESPGolfTV
I want to see the back of the tank. I want to see... What's that form in the comics where it's like the most powerful version of Vader or T.
01:03:16
tommy cresta
oh yeah
01:03:16
Ryan
oh yeah
01:03:17
Ryan
and know what you're talking about
01:03:17
tommy cresta
talk
01:03:18
ESPGolfTV
but that should would be sick guys want to see him fuck some people up i haven't haven't seen
01:03:22
tommy cresta
Yeah, cause you see it in Rogue One you're like, I need three hours of this hallway of him just tossing people.
01:03:22
Ryan
excuse three Yeah.
01:03:26
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
01:03:27
Ryan
God. Very
01:03:28
ESPGolfTV
They just give us these little things, but Disney's more worried about whatever they're worried about, think.
01:03:34
Ryan
hard. Whoa!
01:03:35
tommy cresta
Trying to stay afloat.
01:03:35
Ryan
Thunderbolt's banging.
01:03:36
tommy cresta
Just some negative numbers.
01:03:37
ESPGolfTV
They're having a hard time right now.
01:03:37
Ryan
It was beautiful. got
01:03:40
ESPGolfTV
and Every movie since Endgame been trash, especially.
01:03:40
tommy cresta
yeah
01:03:41
Ryan
very are
01:03:44
Ryan
oh
01:03:44
tommy cresta
Whoa!
01:03:45
Ryan
um
01:03:45
tommy cresta
Thunderbolts was a banger.
01:03:47
ESPGolfTV
but Yeah, dude, it was just the same formula. It was good. was good, it's the same formula.
01:03:52
tommy cresta
It was beautiful.
01:03:54
ESPGolfTV
My problem with Marvel is it all just feels like the completely rebo
01:04:01
Ryan
no
01:04:01
tommy cresta
Isn't that what this is going to be?
01:04:01
ESPGolfTV
right
01:04:03
ESPGolfTV
so like get the next thing and continue the storyline that makes no sense.
01:04:08
tommy cresta
yeah Yeah, it also doesn't help with the whole...
01:04:08
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
01:04:08
Ryan
Yeah, and it also helped the whole, they were tired us so much.
01:04:11
tommy cresta
They were trying to put out so much.
01:04:14
Ryan
Yeah.
01:04:14
tommy cresta
So I'm happy, because I liked Thunderbolts, because Thunderbolts at least didn't follow, just to say, it followed, it became more like,
01:04:14
Ryan
So I'm happy, because I like Thunderbolts, because Thunderbolts didn't follow the state of the technology, it became more mental, I don't know.
01:04:21
tommy cresta
mental what was going on but then you see like the marvels which was just terrible so i'm hoping they can follow more than thunderbolts and let people have their creative freedom because the director came out said he's like i had to do nothing like the post-credits scenes were filmed on a different set had nothing to with my movie and that's what made the first for phases of marvel so good is that they let it be its own film that the post-credits scene was like oh just remember like this is where we're going enough
01:04:22
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
01:04:23
Ryan
But then the model, which was just terrible. So
01:04:38
Ryan
and that's what he <unk> own postre oh so
01:04:47
ESPGolfTV
Yeah. and And it turned into like every movie you have to watch a million freaking Disney Plus shows to be
Marvel Movies: Post-Endgame Quality
01:04:54
ESPGolfTV
able to go to the next movie.
01:04:54
tommy cresta
yeah
01:04:54
Ryan
yeah
01:04:56
ESPGolfTV
And I mean, again, I personally, I know my credibility is about a skyrocket or if it's about a crash down even more. i think No Way Home is a bad movie.
01:05:08
ESPGolfTV
I think it's a bad movie.
01:05:12
Ryan
It's not the best movie ever written.
01:05:12
ESPGolfTV
And I...
01:05:12
tommy cresta
It's not the best movie ever written, but it still gave me one of the happiest moments of my life in that theater when I saw Andrew Garfield.
01:05:14
Ryan
But it's going to be more the happiest most of my life in that theater when I saw Andrew Rutherford.
01:05:18
ESPGolfTV
And that's so fair. And that's so fair. And it gave it to me also. I'm sure it gave it to everyone else. Spider-Man's my third favorite superhero of all time. It is... Seeing them all three on screen at the same time is great.
01:05:31
ESPGolfTV
The movie bad. The writing was bad.
01:05:33
tommy cresta
it's the It's better than the second one in that franchise, that trilogy.
01:05:33
Ryan
It's the, it's better than the second one of that theater. I like the first one.
01:05:36
ESPGolfTV
Well, don't think Tom Holland's movies have been good, in my opinion.
01:05:36
Ryan
I
01:05:39
ESPGolfTV
Like, I don't think any of them been
01:05:41
tommy cresta
like the first one because I like the Vulture.
01:05:41
Ryan
can't wait for the first one. but that's good
01:05:43
tommy cresta
I think it was cool for me to finally see him on screen stuff like that.
01:05:44
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:45
ESPGolfTV
cool villain. He's cool villain.
01:05:46
tommy cresta
But the only problem with his trilogy Iron Man.
01:05:46
Ryan
own
01:05:48
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
01:05:48
tommy cresta
Kind of like at first is like it's taking his movie off of him.
01:05:50
Ryan
yeah
01:05:52
ESPGolfTV
They just always, he always has a mentor. Like he, no one's letting him be himself. it
01:05:56
tommy cresta
Oh because I guess he doesn't have a mentor.
01:05:56
ESPGolfTV
It Iron Man, the first movie, Mysterio, the second movie, the other Spider-Man, or no, Doctor Strange, the third movie.
01:05:57
tommy cresta
Never doesn't have a mentor.
01:05:59
Ryan
yeah
01:06:05
ESPGolfTV
And now this fourth movie, it's going to be Bruce Banner is going to be his new mentor.
01:06:09
tommy cresta
God, can we just make a main Spider-Man 3?
01:06:09
Ryan
yeah Just make a main square.
01:06:12
tommy cresta
That's all I'm saying.
01:06:12
Ryan
That's all I'm saying.
01:06:13
tommy cresta
Best Spider-Man.
01:06:13
Ryan
Best sweater man. Don't care.
01:06:15
tommy cresta
Don't care.
01:06:16
ESPGolfTV
Which one?
01:06:17
tommy cresta
Andrew Garfield.
01:06:17
Ryan
Andrew Garfield, best sweater man right there.
01:06:18
tommy cresta
Best Spider-Man right there.
01:06:20
Ryan
Alongside the best daredevil.
01:06:20
tommy cresta
Alongside the best Daredevil and the best Batman.
01:06:25
ESPGolfTV
I don't know about that.
01:06:26
Ryan
You can't fix stupid. I don't know
01:06:28
tommy cresta
What, is yours the one behind Ryan?
01:06:28
Ryan
What, is yours the one behind you?
01:06:30
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, yeah. toby Toby's the ghost, though.
01:06:31
tommy cresta
Yeah.
01:06:31
Ryan
Yeah.
01:06:33
ESPGolfTV
Toby's still...
01:06:34
Ryan
Toby's doing the fire on
01:06:34
tommy cresta
Toby's movies are terrible.
01:06:36
ESPGolfTV
Toby just throws hands, bro. Toby just throws hands.
01:06:38
tommy cresta
yeah Oh, yeah.
01:06:39
Ryan
you. Oh, yeah.
01:06:39
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
01:06:40
tommy cresta
First off, Andrew Garfield throws some hands.
01:06:40
Ryan
First off, Andrew Garth is going to hurt some hands.
01:06:44
tommy cresta
No, but he doesn't punch like Andrew Garfield, Toby, beating Doc Ock from the bell tower.
01:06:44
ESPGolfTV
Yeah.
01:06:44
Ryan
No, but he doesn't punch like Toby beating Doc Ock on the bell tower. Just throw and fist out.
01:06:49
tommy cresta
just throws. Yeah, to a normal human being that doesn't take any pain.
01:06:51
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
01:06:54
ESPGolfTV
He beat up...
01:06:55
tommy cresta
The dude doesn't have superpowers.
01:06:55
Ryan
just
01:06:57
ESPGolfTV
He beat up Sandman and Venom.
01:07:00
Ryan
yeah
01:07:00
tommy cresta
ah that's ah That's a weak take.
01:07:00
Ryan
that
01:07:02
tommy cresta
He gets his assh chewed out by Venom.
01:07:03
Ryan
now
01:07:05
ESPGolfTV
Okay, well, I mean, Venom's whole thing was he was just allergic to, like, car bells. But, don't know. I think Andrew Garfield... Dude, he just... In the second movie, it opens up with him allowing the frickin' Rhino to kill, like, 100 people.
01:07:21
ESPGolfTV
Because he was...
01:07:22
Ryan
Well, that opening is one of the best of the ancient superhero kids to bring.
01:07:22
tommy cresta
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:07:22
ESPGolfTV
Never did he do it.
01:07:23
tommy cresta
That opening is one of the best openings in superhero history.
Debate: Best Spider-Man Portrayal
01:07:28
ESPGolfTV
Him falling, also where the fuck did he jump from? Because he fell from like 50,000 feet in the air.
01:07:32
Ryan
It's a superhero deposit in 20 more labs.
01:07:33
tommy cresta
It's a superhero movie. You're watching a dude swing from webs.
01:07:36
ESPGolfTV
Him falling and then swinging with every everyone in the streets yelling at him like, hey, there goes Spidey, sick.
01:07:36
Ryan
I almost there.
01:07:36
tommy cresta
So you're wondering where he's jumping from.
01:07:37
Ryan
on
01:07:46
ESPGolfTV
Him landing on the freaking semi and doing quips instead of stopping the guy that murders like 150 people.
01:07:52
tommy cresta
He's Spider-Man, that's what he does!
01:07:52
Ryan
He's smart ass who does! He is!
01:07:55
ESPGolfTV
He could do that while he's stopping.
01:07:57
tommy cresta
He is!
01:07:57
Ryan
He gave his parents!
01:07:57
tommy cresta
he was getting his bearings.
01:07:58
ESPGolfTV
oh
01:07:58
Ryan
He's probably very good to get thrown out.
01:07:59
tommy cresta
He's probably very dizzy after all that.
01:08:02
ESPGolfTV
I thought the first one was terrible. I thought the motivations turn everyone into lizards.
01:08:04
tommy cresta
You're crazy.
01:08:04
Ryan
You're crazy. There's no...
01:08:06
tommy cresta
There's no...
01:08:06
Ryan
We're not making you smart way to get
01:08:07
tommy cresta
We're not making a Star Wars episode.
01:08:12
ESPGolfTV
like What are we doing?
01:08:12
tommy cresta
He's a nut job!
01:08:12
Ryan
him. He's a smart guy!
01:08:14
ESPGolfTV
What are we doing? And then the second movie just crammed absolutely every Spider-Man storyline, every Spider-Man villain, every freaking...
01:08:22
tommy cresta
Wait, we can't say that when Spider-Man 3 exists.
01:08:22
Ryan
way know and
01:08:25
tommy cresta
It's the most crammed movie ever.
01:08:26
Ryan
I hate saying that.
01:08:29
ESPGolfTV
I think
01:08:29
tommy cresta
And he dances in the most embarrassing sequence in possibly superhero history.
01:08:30
Ryan
and no pattern possibly
01:08:36
ESPGolfTV
ah sir i think that's one of the most iconic sequences in Supergirl.
01:08:39
tommy cresta
Spider-Man 3 might be the worst superhero movie ever. There's one good scene in that entire movie, and it's when he fights Goblin in the air.
01:08:43
Ryan
there's one and it's when
01:08:48
tommy cresta
Because I loved that scene as a kid. And knew Goblin's dope.
01:08:50
Ryan
and income
01:08:52
ESPGolfTV
That was good. I did like New Goblin. I mean Batman Forever still exists.
01:08:54
tommy cresta
I hate Sandman, that movie.
01:08:59
Ryan
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
01:08:59
tommy cresta
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Batman Forever is a gem.
01:09:01
Ryan
Batman forever is a man.
01:09:04
tommy cresta
Batman and Robin is terrible.
01:09:05
Ryan
Batman probably is a terrible one.
01:09:06
tommy cresta
well Batman Forever has some great scenes.
01:09:07
ESPGolfTV
Batman and Robin. What else we got there? The Dark Knight Rises is shit. That movie is bad.
01:09:17
Ryan
Batman
01:09:20
ESPGolfTV
The death scene, Talia Ghoul's death scene is...
01:09:23
tommy cresta
It might be the way it's...
01:09:23
Ryan
has a great scene. it's the worst ever.
01:09:28
Ryan
okay
01:09:28
tommy cresta
Okay, we knew we we're running so far over our limit.
01:09:29
Ryan
of course
01:09:31
ESPGolfTV
Yeah, got it.
01:09:32
tommy cresta
um Before we get going, what would everyone's recommendation of the week be?
01:09:33
Ryan
Before we get into it, what
01:09:39
Ryan
do we have more questions?
01:09:39
tommy cresta
Esteban, we'll start with you, since you're the guest. Of course, let you go first.
01:09:42
Ryan
It can
01:09:42
ESPGolfTV
Recommendation. Movie recommendation of the week. Okay, okay.
01:09:45
tommy cresta
It could be a video game, book, show, anything that you want to recommend to someone.
01:09:45
Ryan
be a video game. Mmm.
01:09:49
ESPGolfTV
okay okay I'm going to go movie and I'm going to go train to Busan.
01:09:55
tommy cresta
o
01:09:56
Ryan
me. Yeah.
01:09:57
tommy cresta
Might be the best zombie movie of all time.
01:09:57
Ryan
Yeah. yeah
01:09:58
ESPGolfTV
Might be the greatest on the of all times.
01:10:01
tommy cresta
Damn, that was a good one I don't think we've ever said that on the show.
01:10:02
Ryan
Well, I'm looking at it. I'm sure.
01:10:03
tommy cresta
No, haven't.
01:10:04
Ryan
No, I haven't.
01:10:05
tommy cresta
Are you still looking?
01:10:07
Ryan
You still like it?
01:10:08
tommy cresta
I'm look.
01:10:08
Ryan
I'm kind of looking. I mean, I'm trying to think of a horror movie because I don't, I haven't watched any horror movies recently that I want to.
01:10:09
tommy cresta
mean, I'm trying to think horror movie. I haven't watched any horror movies recently that I want to.
Episode Wrap-Up and Recommendations
01:10:15
tommy cresta
I'm going recommend men The Medium.
01:10:15
Ryan
remember right here on the end the video. It's a Korean television.
01:10:17
tommy cresta
It's a Korean found footage movie.
01:10:18
Ryan
fucking watched it in the night and played it in and played it in the night and played it in the night and played it in the night.
01:10:19
tommy cresta
It is fucking terrifying. I watched it the other night and I late turned it off so I still have half the movie to go.
01:10:21
ESPGolfTV
There
01:10:25
ESPGolfTV
you go. You have to finish it
01:10:26
tommy cresta
yeah But you gotta to buy it.
01:10:27
Ryan
got a bond
01:10:28
tommy cresta
I had to spend $13 on it and So thank God it's scary.
01:10:28
Ryan
and sort and
01:10:32
tommy cresta
yeah Now I have to finish it.
01:10:32
Ryan
now
01:10:33
tommy cresta
I can't let it run out buy it again.
01:10:33
Ryan
money um
01:10:35
tommy cresta
I'm going on crack streams.
01:10:37
Ryan
I don't know.
01:10:39
tommy cresta
don't know.
01:10:39
Ryan
Just watch Pearl.
01:10:39
tommy cresta
Just watch Pearl.
01:10:40
Ryan
It's a good movie.
01:10:40
tommy cresta
I like Pearl.
01:10:41
Ryan
don't know.
01:10:41
ESPGolfTV
now.
01:10:42
Ryan
like Pearl. It's a fun movie.
01:10:42
tommy cresta
It's a fun movie.
01:10:44
Ryan
Mia Gott's performance is wild.
01:10:44
tommy cresta
Me and God's performance is wild.
01:10:44
ESPGolfTV
I took it off.
01:10:47
tommy cresta
And you gotta watch it all the way the credits in the end where she's just crying and smiling.
01:10:47
Ryan
And you got to watch it all the way. The credits to the end where she's just crying and smiling for like five minutes.
01:10:50
tommy cresta
Yeah, not blinking. I don't know how the fuck anybody could ever do that.
01:10:52
Ryan
It's I don't know how the fuck anybody could ever do that. It's so impressive.
01:10:55
tommy cresta
It's so impressive.
01:10:56
Ryan
But yeah, fun movie.
01:10:57
tommy cresta
Yeah. Well, that is our list of our top 10 horror villains slash monsters.
01:10:58
Ryan
Well that's a place of our top 10 horror films at Monsters.
01:11:03
tommy cresta
And thank you again, Esteban, for joining us on the show.
01:11:03
Ryan
And thank you guys for giving us on the show.
01:11:06
tommy cresta
Make sure to go check out his channel on YouTube.
01:11:06
Ryan
Make sure to check out the YouTube, it's great option to debate.
01:11:07
tommy cresta
His TikToks are great. He's an amazing golfer.
01:11:10
Ryan
He's an amazing golfer.
01:11:11
tommy cresta
When me and Ryan are out golfing, people think we're blind.
01:11:11
Ryan
Me and Ryan are a lot of people thinking blind.
01:11:13
tommy cresta
So watching him is a way different way from watching us play.
01:11:13
Ryan
So, watching him is way different from watching.
01:11:17
tommy cresta
And yeah, do you want to make sure to plug, watch him, check him out.
01:11:17
Ryan
And yeah, do you want to make sure to check out the link in the file.
01:11:21
tommy cresta
We'll make sure to link him in the bio. And yeah, do you want to plug anything else before you go
01:11:23
Ryan
And yeah, you want to play with us?
01:11:26
ESPGolfTV
I'll It was a pleasure. I can't wait to come back. I feel like we have a lot of unfinished business.
01:11:29
tommy cresta
Yeah, and that's not happening anymore.
01:11:29
Ryan
Yeah, and I don't have to worry about that.
01:11:31
tommy cresta
Talk bad about the amazing Spider-Man.
01:11:32
Ryan
It's all right.
01:11:32
ESPGolfTV
I feel like we have a lot unfinished business.
01:11:32
Ryan
I don't have to do the same spots, Yeah.
01:11:36
ESPGolfTV
Those were great. Those were great.
01:11:38
tommy cresta
But yeah, thank you guys ah for checking in.
01:11:38
Ryan
Yeah, that's good. Check in with his channel.
01:11:40
tommy cresta
Make sure go check out his channel. Make sure to check out all the social medias.
01:11:41
Ryan
All the search for me here.
01:11:43
tommy cresta
And we will see you all in the next episode.
01:11:43
Ryan
We'll see you all in the next episode.