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Episode 168: "Daredevil Born Again" and "The Last Of Us" Review image

Episode 168: "Daredevil Born Again" and "The Last Of Us" Review

S8 E168 · The Popcorn Podcast
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This week on the show the boys review episodes 1-3 of "The Last Of Us" and the final 5 episodes of “Daredevil: Born Again”! This episode was a lot of fun and the boys had a blast recording it! We hope you all enjoy it and we will talk to you later!!

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Introduction and Episode Overview

00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome back everyone to the Popcorn Podcast. I'm Tommy Cresta. Across from my co-host Ryan Ferran. Today we're here talk about the first three episodes of The Last of Us. And um yeah, but before we get into that, i'm just a quick conversation because me and Ryan haven't been on this together in a while.
00:00:16
Speaker
Ryan, how's life treating you?
00:00:21
Speaker
It's going fine. oh It's going just dandy. I always love these conversations. It's magical. Magical? Magical. Yep.

Personal Updates and Entertainment News

00:00:29
Speaker
It's just like magic. So I want to do something. Nothing's happening.
00:00:32
Speaker
It's all a mirage.
00:00:36
Speaker
There's a facade of greatness. Of greatness. So two things that aren't podcast related. but So one, what are you giggling at about? There's a girl like. I need to take that episode down. Yeah, you do. It's the worst thing ever. Yeah.
00:00:58
Speaker
I think I did take it down. What was I going to say? oh so Oh, I did like the day I got this, I sent the script to you and Ian. I was like, oh I was like, I'll put it in a screenplay like competition. i was like, I don't know.
00:01:13
Speaker
was like, it might not get in, but I just want to see like, if it gets in, and I at least know where it's at. It's good enough to get in. yeah So the people who produce the Terrifier films are in the high desert called Blumhouse Projects.
00:01:25
Speaker
i I put the thing into the competitions. I was like, it's probably not going get Well, it got in. And not only got in, it's in the finals now. Winner takes home $50,000. And the top 10 get calls with producers.
00:01:45
Speaker
That'd be pretty cool. That'd be pretty cool. Nice money. Yeah. And it would be for producers. yeah um I have a call. i'm doing I'll do the call again. like it But the Blumhouse one went well. asd me You talked about that. yeah And then I have one with Neon tomorrow.
00:01:58
Speaker
With neon? Mm-hmm. That's pretty sweet. That's pretty sweet. Yeah, cool. And then outside on the other note, I just texted you them. Live on the podcast. I sent you a couple of of the tattoos I'm trying to going to show the camera as well. Ew.
00:02:11
Speaker
Okay. Not the crow one. So there's the first one. What is that? It's the crow. I get it. Okay. I wouldn't be getting the just the words. Yeah. for those And this one for Blade Runner. It's the whole speech. Oh, just the word? No, get the unicorn.
00:02:24
Speaker
You think the... don't just get the unicorn. I didn't know the unicorn would look good. No, because then the unicorn would be a The unicorn looks decent. It's not going to come through Here's a mind killer. It's dune one. And then my personal favorite one. Don't get the dune picture. That's going to cost $500. No.
00:02:38
Speaker
The daredevil one looks pretty cool, though. I like the daredevil one. Even if you just get the the DD. i quote If I do the DD, I'm going to do the DD and the Punisher symbol with it. because I can't just get the punisher because there's a lot of yeah it's not associated some good stuff now yeah I do it next to Daredevil it's fine yeah yeah but I like how do you feel about the new uh Daredevil costume leaked awesome yeah you like the because you've been saying you don't want all black though no I said no I don't like the black and the red I wanted the Shadowland suit you wanted either black or red yes but now yeah not in between okay all right no fucking far from home bullshit I got you hate that fucking costume um
00:03:15
Speaker
Daredevil one looked really good though at the end. like Oh, yeah. Like season one. I was really into that. But I'm really excited for the black with the 2D. Yeah. We really should reviewed that show in general. We could actually do that on this too. We could just do it all. Yeah, let's just do it all.
00:03:28
Speaker
All right. Daredevil. Daredevil. and now I think we should go see the account too because it's getting really good reviews. so I still got to watch the first one, but I'm not. What? Yeah.

TV Show Discussions and Reviews

00:03:36
Speaker
Autistic Hitman? I've been watching Severance. Fucking dope. Severance.
00:03:40
Speaker
Are you done? I'm not done. No, I'm going through season two. Okay. We're at like the same point. You are such an asshole because you told me to watch it like once, maybe twice. You didn't tell me it's this fucking told you it was one my favorite shows. You told me you usually oftentimes You will be like, dude, this show is so fucking good. And it's always good. Right.
00:03:59
Speaker
But for Severance, you were like, yeah, it was a great show. It was really good. mean And that was that. You were like, dude, you have to watch this. Because usually you're like, yeah, I have to watch this. all I'll watch it. it out. And I'm like, damn, he was right.
00:04:10
Speaker
Sometimes not so much. But Yeah, you were right. This show, holy shit. Season one, telling my dad to watch it because I think he will like it, but I'm going to have to push him through that first four or five episodes, which I hate saying shit like that where it's like, oh, get through season one, then it gets good.
00:04:26
Speaker
I fucking hate that. But Severance, it's good, but it's so slow until at the end. The end of season one blew my fucking mind. Then you're like, fuck. Thank God I waited for season two because i would have been pissed waiting. Me?
00:04:40
Speaker
Oh, my God. it two years? because Yeah, two years. Yeah, it was incredible. Yeah, it was very good. Finished Reacher. That I still haven't watched. I gotta watch Andor. Dude, I know. first three were good.
00:04:52
Speaker
I really... i haven't watched season one I know, I know. I'm saying the first three of this season were good. and Yeah, maybe that's what start tonight. It's still kind of the same show where it is like slow, methodical, but it is, it's good.
00:05:03
Speaker
And it's one of those shows that has like several different stories going on in the same show, but they're all interesting in their own ways. Cause you have Andor doing like action, like rebel shit.
00:05:14
Speaker
And then you have like Mon Mothma and, um, Is that still in Skarsgård? Yeah. Well, Mon Mothma is the the redhead girl from from the movies, from the originals. And then... From the originals?
00:05:24
Speaker
Different actress. Oh! But she's She's fucking amazing. Yeah, talking about. But you have, like, her story going on, and then Luthan, who is Skarsgård, and, like, his story going on, and they're, you know, like... Mon Mothma's a senator. who's a part of the Rebellion. She's like the highest ranking rebel. Yeah, she's got the hairpiece right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, it's just so cool to see it from the inside because like, she's a senator in the Empire and nobody knows she... It's so good. I'm not going to like spoil it, but like even her husband doesn't know and she's got to keep it a secret from everybody.
00:05:53
Speaker
So good. Such a great character. I want see the prison arc because everyone keeps saying how good that is. The prison arc is great. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's what I'll start tonight. Because then I want to stream because I don't want to just play it. i got I bought Indiana Jones.
00:06:05
Speaker
Did you? You got to let me know how it is. played some of the first little bit just like get to get the controls so I'm not on stream like I was with Madison playing for like an hour and not knowing what I was doing. Oh my God. You leave. Recreate the movie.
00:06:17
Speaker
Really? The opening of Raiders. Nice. It was so cool. I was so immersed, but I am going to go back and play. i'm I'm definitely going to be trying to stream way more this summer. Streaming is so much fun. Now that I kind of have time, yeah, I would love to do that. because i want to get the solo.
00:06:31
Speaker
i' I have made the decision when Sam leaves for school, I'm going to play Red Dead 2. I'm going to play it out. I'm going to stream it. I'm going to kick her ass out, dude. I'll drive her down there tonight.
00:06:42
Speaker
She leaves May 20th, so it's not that far away. Oh, thank God. What? I'm so sad about it. I know, and of course I'm getting surgery the last week she's home. I'm going to be fucking high again, just like when I was doing fucking ankle You've got to watch Akira with her.
00:06:59
Speaker
Oh, God. Dude, that was the best. What should watch? need to find something fun to watch. You need to... Just on fucking Oxy. Dude, oh my God. Watch it Andor on Oxys. I won't remember a fucking thing. There's one scene that'll blow your fucking mind on Oxys. Holy shit. That was like Akira, because I don't think any of us knew how crazy it got.
00:07:17
Speaker
I thought it was le like a biker game. Yeah, no. That's what I thought it And he fucking went nuts. I'm also going to rewatch Suns. You went oxys or bikerin? How's that on oxys? thought it was bikerin. don't remember. I might have been on bikerin. It doesn't. Well, yeah. You don't remember. don't remember. i was fucking drooling. But you got the Tommy got surgery on his ankle and took you know, he was he had surgery. He was in pain.
00:07:36
Speaker
Yeah. It was like two days after I got out. He took like an oxy or whatever he had and we watched Akira. He was genuinely drooling on the couch. Like it was so funny.
00:07:47
Speaker
was so And then I kicked in the ankle on accident. And it's the only time I've ever genuinely felt bad for you in my entire life. Oh my God. tried to step over your leg and I just kicked it. Yeah. My labor, that labor one's going to, this is going to suck.
00:08:00
Speaker
I kicked you right in the screw. Oh no. You kicked me in the plate. Oh, the screw. It's so weird. I can pinch the screw my ankle. Like where he's down, like squeeze it. Yeah. Oh, it's so weird. Um,
00:08:12
Speaker
That's not what we're here to talk about. So do we want to talk about Daredevil first? I think we can talk, yeah, do Daredevil first because it's been two weeks and we're going to forget a lot of it. But I have like the general, the general gist is that I agree it was a good show, but the middle of it dragged a lot.
00:08:28
Speaker
Yeah, I think the beginning was really good. yeah And I think what you're, exactly what you're saying. I think it took a while to get me back into, I think as soon as he fights Muse though, I was really in again. Like I like knowing he was Daredevil again.
00:08:40
Speaker
Yeah. like feel like It's that trope of like, oh, should I be the hero again? Should I blah, blah. We all know where it's going. We're going to be Daredevil again. But I really liked it. I think I take back everything I've said. I i was i was sometimes a hater Daredevil because, you know, icon back there.
00:09:02
Speaker
um But yeah, Matt Murdock, Charlie Cox kills as Matt Murdock. He was born to be this character. Just like I think Wilson Bethel is supposed to be bullseye. Jon Bernthal was perfectly cast Frank Castle.
00:09:15
Speaker
And of course, Vincent D'Onofrio as Kingpin was another perfect casting. They didn't miss with any of the main characters. No. Connor and Sean are arguing about Star Wars a again. Connor picked me up, day sick he was like, Sean's a fucking idiot. yeah That's terrible list. He has Last Jedi at the bottom.
00:09:34
Speaker
It's a horrible list. That's the one you go with? Yeah. It's not as bad as Sean says it is. No, it's not. I have rewatched it. Someone also has Rise at number one.
00:09:45
Speaker
No, it's five. Right? No, no, no. I meant ah not Rise. Return of the Jedi. Return to the Jedi is not. It's the weakest of the originals. It is.
00:09:56
Speaker
It's the weakest, but it's got some of the best moments in the originals. Okay. It's got hot better highs, but again, like the lows are not as good as that. But love the Ewoks. Yeah. I don't hate Ewoks.
00:10:09
Speaker
I remember crying as little kid when the one dies and he rolls them over. like Oh, yeah. remember crying as a child. It's so sad. Yeah. um But back to Daredevil. I think the reason that the middle episodes are so slow, and I've seen a couple of people talk about this. I didn't do my own research. I'm kind of talking secondhand and kind of out of my ass.
00:10:26
Speaker
The original show, they got like canceled, and then they brought in new writers. The first episode or two was the new writers, and then the last episode or two was the new writers. The middle chunk was that original show that nobody liked.
00:10:37
Speaker
Oh, like the one that they were going to do and then they reshot. Yeah, and they reshot. So like most of to my understanding, most of the beginning and the end were were changed yeah changed. Which is why those episodes were significantly better.
00:10:52
Speaker
um And the middle of it was that original thing that they had to scrap because it was dog shit. So I think that, you know, that's kind of a reason that it really dragged for me the in the middle. But I think the highs of the show are really great. like Like you said, like we both said, the beginning and the end were both great.
00:11:08
Speaker
And i it makes me more excited for season two because I think they're keeping on the same writers, same showrunners. Yeah, they're doing the whole season now. Yeah, so that's I mean if they can just keep that up from the from the end of it, then it's going to be a great season. So i am really I'm excited. Because they said director and the show are on the two of them.
00:11:25
Speaker
they They said they want to do it every year. They were like, I'll do this 10 seasons. Yeah. I mean, i' working on there it's coming out. They said, what, March? Yeah, March next year and then hopefully and then March after that. Yeah, that's, I mean, amazing turnaround. Especially because, i mean, they're already filming the set photos out.
00:11:41
Speaker
I will say though, as much as I don't love episode three, four, and five, like the bank one. I didn't mind the bank one. I feel like the bank one was definitely they put out two because they realized five was just setting up six.
00:11:55
Speaker
Yeah. Well, no. five Was five the bank one? Yeah. Or what? Yeah. Five I mean that was literally just Six is when gets back in the suit. Yeah. I think five it definitely did help set up that because he had to do some hero stuff.
00:12:06
Speaker
But it was very much just like a, hey, this is in the MCU now. We got to remind you that That was cool seeing all that. Yeah. Ms. Marvel's dad is here. Although he said it like five times in the show. i'm like All right. I know. I know. We all remember. remember.
00:12:18
Speaker
I know. I'll defend that show forever. This Marvel was good. Never watched it. It was good. I liked it too. No, because I did watch the first two, I think. IGN still has it as the number one Marvel show. Don't agree with that. better than Echo.
00:12:31
Speaker
I still didn't watch it. Echo's fucking ass. Everybody said Echo was ass, which disappointed because remember the trailer came out and we were like, holy shit. Yeah, they went for it. That scene's awesome. With Daredevil? Yeah, like the one take fight scene you watch in the trailer.
00:12:42
Speaker
It's the first scene of the show. Oh, really? It's the opening act. And then Daredevil fights her at the end of that scene. Hmm. And there's nothing. Yeah. I feel bad because it's such a cool story. like Cool character. She's not done. I think she'll be in the next season. I'm sure she'll be in Daredevil. Yeah, I'm sure she's going to be in something. But I'm saying like the actress actually being I forget exactly what it is, but she's mute.
00:13:06
Speaker
Death. Yeah, mute death, and she has a prosthetic leg. Just fucking badass. And she's killing it. She does her own stunts. She is like an actual fighter. Oh, really? I think she doesn' like trains in martial arts and stuff. That's pretty sick.
00:13:17
Speaker
Which is why she got the part. She's fucking cool. Echo's a dope character. Yeah. She deserves better. Because she was good in Hawkeye. She should have just been should have been like a she should have instead doing a show, it should have been like a special presentation.
00:13:29
Speaker
Yeah. Just let her shoot Kingpin and see what happens. Do you think the Punisher one is going to come out before this season of Daredevil or after? Yeah, because i think i think I think they're going to try to set that up. Yeah. Yeah, because they said the post-credit scene of the series is to set up the Punisher.
00:13:42
Speaker
Yeah, because I mean the post-credit scene was pretty much didn't set up. Yeah, it's just showing that he's Havoc. Dude, I was watching me and Sam were watching it and I they just react. i was like, oh, oh, God, you need to get to a hospital. oh That's not good. Dude, I was so happy when he just hit that female cop in the face with a hatchet. Like, dude, equal rights.
00:14:03
Speaker
And then it showed us like, whoa. Like, I was i was expecting, oh you know, it's a woman who just throws and he just punches her knocks her out. Nope. Just acts. He's awesome. um He's perfect. is that That scene in episode four, though, is my favorite scene in the series.
00:14:17
Speaker
When they talk for the first time. When they fight. It was good. argument That felt like very Daredevil Netflix. Yeah. Although I was it didn't feel like I feel like if Daredevil said like, hey, they're wearing your uniform and killing people, Punisher would have gotten out there immediately.
00:14:32
Speaker
See, I don't know if he would have. i think I think he would have. I hope he does because, i think again, people need remember that's not what the symbol means. The symbol is anti-law enforcement. It's the whole point. Yeah.
00:14:43
Speaker
People now it's been associated to cops and all that. not what the Punisher symbol means. The creator said it a hundred times. Jon Bernthal said it before. You know, Jon Bernthal big military guy. I think soldiers should be allowed to wear it.
00:14:54
Speaker
Like the Punisher thing. because I think it kind of goes with like, they're punishing bad people. Do bad things to bad people. I mean. not. didn't say anything. saying. I didn't serve.
00:15:05
Speaker
Corporal.
00:15:09
Speaker
But I think people need to. Realize the whole point of the Punisher is because he doesn't think the law enforcement does enough. Yeah. And I agree. I see where he's coming from because i agree with dar Punisher in the scene with Daredevil when he has chained up.
00:15:20
Speaker
I think it's I think sometimes he I know you agree. Yeah, where he says We are Punisher in Daredevil, dude. What are you, blind? but Yeah. I'm holding? Yeah, no. But yeah, I think i think John Berthold is really good character. I love the Punisher, just the character. i love him the comics.
00:15:41
Speaker
Do you think we're ever going to get him in the trench coat? It's going to happen eventually. I thought that's what he was wearing in the scene when he's standing in Matt Murrow's kitchen. it like It like shined a little bit. I was like, there's no way he's doing the leather trench coat.
00:15:54
Speaker
Or is he going to wear like this little latex? With the white gloves. Yeah, that'd be great. Go full punisher. Oh, dude, the fight in the kitchen. I will say, at the end... He blew that dude's fucking brains out in the... Oh. Like that. Yeah, dude. The only thing was the blood was kind of like... Yeah. It was very CGI Ryan and Field. I loved when he shot the dude when he's like... This guy deserves it?
00:16:14
Speaker
Bang! Yeah, he's like, Daredevil saves the one guy on the ground, and he's like, okay, bang. And Daredevil's like, wait, no, what? Like, you could have knocked the gun out of his hand. Like, you could have done anything.
00:16:24
Speaker
I think he thought he made, like, because he talks, like, with his gun. he's like, oh, he didn't deserve it? Bang! Because he went, does he deserve it? And then, like, and then shoots him. Like, Daredevil had to know. And I love that the grenade fans. And also, here is heart beating, like, oh, yeah, he's going to shoot that guy.
00:16:38
Speaker
Wow. Oh no, he shot that guy. Do something, dickhead. You're an asshole, Frank. yeah I think says you're a fucking asshole. Oh, so true. I love the love triangle Karen Page.
00:16:50
Speaker
Yeah. I think she should go with the Punisher. i don't think the Punisher's ever going to love anybody again. I think he's just going to be single forever. I think he's fine he does love Karen Page. Oh no, I know he does. Because I think Elektra's the only person Daredevil's supposed to end up with.
00:17:06
Speaker
she's and I guess we don't know if she died. She's in the building. but Well, no, she died. She got brought back to life. And then she got crushed in rubble. Yeah, so did he. Yeah. I don't think we've seen her since. Yeah, so maybe she is alive.
00:17:18
Speaker
Well, she

Star Wars Critiques and Insights

00:17:19
Speaker
died and then came back evil. But then he convinced her. He's like, we love each other. moma I like Defenders. I think gets all bad around. It's bad. it's not i It's not fair. They didn't get a fair shot. No, the first season Bring back Luke Cage.
00:17:33
Speaker
ah Yes. Daredevil is a good show. The first seasons of Luke Cage and Jessica jessica Jones are good. Iron Fist is not Iron Fist is dog shit. Iron Fist is bad from beginning to end.
00:17:44
Speaker
It's not the dude playing Iron Fist's fault. No, I like him. It's the writing of Iron Fist. It's horrible. Luke Cage is such an I think they're all going to come back. Mm-hmm. I think they're all going to show up in next. I would love to see Luke aging him.
00:17:56
Speaker
And they played the Spider-Man theme. ah When? In Daredevil. When he's at the boat talking to Karen, the Spider-Man theme's playing. Oh, I missed that. And I thought about it. I like, no, that's not it.
00:18:08
Speaker
And then I went, and it was on Twitter that they confirmed that the composers, they're like, it is a Spider-Man theme. I was like, oh, we're going to get Spider-Man. Oh, God. Connor fucked up. What he They're still arguing. and he said, now you want to go watch something peak? Watch Attack on Titan.
00:18:23
Speaker
Sean just emphasized. Bro, I put Ryan onto it. its Yeah, yeah, this is true. This is true.
00:18:34
Speaker
What fuck? This is lot of shit. that's I don't have time to read that bullshit. But yeah, they confirmed that it Spider-Man's theme. I think Spider-Man is going show He's got to show up in season two.
00:18:47
Speaker
Spider-Man? I think this maybe that sets up Spider-Man. oh my got it What if he showed up and he's like, hey guys, it's Andrew Garfield.
00:18:55
Speaker
Dude, isn't it crazy? In one apartment, it was Rob Pattinson. It was Batman, Spider-Man, and Daredevil. Yeah. They all live together. ah Yeah. Talk about three guys who have had very successful careers.
00:19:08
Speaker
um Oh, speaking of Pattinson, what do you think is going to happen with the Batman 2? canceled you think it's gonna get canceled i doubt it i would be really sad there's no way it gets canceled canceled like they they did confirm that the shooting dates are not the same they said batman's this year dune's beginning of next year okay dude i would love for him to be in dune i want to see him as a villain yeah be pretty cool Yeah, no, I i doubt it's going to get canceled. I think it's too good of a It's too valuable to just be like, fuck it, whatever. Like DC has to buck up and be like Well, I mean Warner Bros. has to buck up and be like, we have to make this. We have to get this to happen. We're going to lose out on almost a billion dollars if we don't make this movie. Damn, we got some good movies coming out in the next couple of years.
00:19:54
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, the Rocks trailer comes out to tomorrow. The Smash Machine? Smash Machine. I'm excited for that. I'm really Dude. Dude's going to Safdie movie and then ah Scorsese movie. What's Scorsese? Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's playing the Miami drug guy. Yeah.
00:20:08
Speaker
Kingpin. Shit. Damn. Is this The Rock's chance? Is this The Rock an Oscar? this a chance at redemption? He better get some redemption because Black Adam fucking blew. All of his movies fucking blow for the past decade.
00:20:23
Speaker
No. Hobbs and Shaw is fucking awesome. Okay, fine. Whatever. I'm black Superman, bitch. Awesome movie. I saw that Mews. Big Fast fan. Great.
00:20:34
Speaker
um Back to Daredevil. Do you think Mews is dead? think he's coming back. He can't be. Yeah. He has powers in the comics, too. Yeah. I think he gets them later.
00:20:45
Speaker
but I think because he has died in the comics and come back. He has to come back. he's too like cool the character He's too cool of character. I know he's like a relatively new villain, but like people love him so much already. You can't just kill him in two fucking episodes.
00:20:59
Speaker
You can't do that. I love that guy. like The kid who's playing him. it was good and He's got Wednesday coming out. Very good in that too. Wednesday trailer looked really good. so much You're a big Tim Burton guy.
00:21:13
Speaker
No, I'm not. you like his Batmans? I mean, I haven't seen him since I was a kid. What? I mean, I remember liking him. Batman 19. Sam asked if he could watch Batman and Robin. Yes. I was like, no. That's a good movie. I told her. I was like, it's the worst movie. I was like, but as a kid, it was like my favorite Batman. Oh, it's the best movie.
00:21:29
Speaker
And I was like, it's terrible. Yeah. It's the best. Oh, God. Yeah, because the the Star Wars prequels I used to love when I was a kid because they're dog shit. But then, you know, i grew up and I realized that even if you re-release a movie, it doesn't make it better.
00:21:43
Speaker
making people angry. I do mean what I said. Did you see how much money it made? What did it make? 35 million. People show out. did see people cheering when he killed the younglings. Dude, my feet are sort laughing. I was like, oh no.
00:21:58
Speaker
Dude, I love revenge. But I did say to my dad, like you having on a big screen shows the CGI flaws so much more. Yeah, I'm sure. Like how bad Cody looks on all the bodies. Yeah.
00:22:09
Speaker
That's the biggest flaw of that movie is CGI. Oh, just all the clones. Yeah. It's a thousand CGI. It's Mary Morrison. I still think the end, the end is awesome. I think it sets up the, like if you watch them in like chronological, it's pretty dope. Yeah.
00:22:24
Speaker
I'll give you that. i think I mean, I do love watching the fight and just quoting. like i I don't like the movie. I can still quote everything. it Okay, it is it the best one of the prequels? Yeah. My dad tries to tell me the Attack of the Clones is better than Revenge the Sith. Your is smoking crap.
00:22:39
Speaker
I thought that's the worst thing. It's the worst one. It's the worst. It's the worst. It's not the worst Star Wars movie. Phantom Menace is the most boring. Yeah, Phantom Menace has a great scenes. The scene when Anakin picks up the two lights is pretty cool, but that's like 30 seconds.
00:22:53
Speaker
Yeah, and he gets his hand chopped off. He gets kicked across a room by a 90-year-old man. 90-year-old death metal artist. An SAS soldier. Fucking James Bond. Goldfinger. Right?
00:23:07
Speaker
That's the one he's in, right? go The Golden Gun? No, like James Bond, like the original book stories, some of them are based off what he did. oh really? Yeah. No, he was... He's a legend. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:19
Speaker
He was a bad motherfucker. That's not what it sounds like when you stab a man in the back. when you say sounds like the ones taken out of them. um We keep going so off topic.
00:23:30
Speaker
ah Well, we haven't done one of these in a month. I yeah got to talk. I know. We got to get all of our thoughts. You've been carrying the weight. you've been doing on the solo ones that I don't listen to. You listen to any of them. Yeah, no, don't. I should listened your Sinners review though.
00:23:42
Speaker
You did review Sinners, right? No. Although you did. I got nothing to listen to. I don't think so. i don't think so. oh How the fuck would I know? Ignore it.
00:23:53
Speaker
I don't think I did. Sinners are so fucking good. My dad and brother gave it 60s. That's ridiculous. Thank you. That's crazy. I did give it four stars. I didn't think it was as great I was saying like 89.
00:24:05
Speaker
I said 84. and that's um I respect that. But I think if I go see it again and I don't have my brother being like, I think I like it more. What do you not like about it? I don't know. He's too big of a Josh Allen fan.
00:24:17
Speaker
He's too big of a Josh Allen fan. Joseph doesn't watch football. Joseph doesn't give two fucks. um My dad is not a huge like sexual stuff in movies. yeah Neither am I. i didn't think it was that bad. i thought it I thought, first off, it made perfect sense in the story. Because the whole thing is about them being sinners.
00:24:33
Speaker
That's a whole theme. And I thought it was pretty good. I thought this seems funny when ah the young kids with the girl and he's like, come, come see my cousin's doing. I thought it was pretty good. I thought the blood was good.
00:24:46
Speaker
Practical effects were really good. The blood wasn't great. CG blood. No, not CG. But like when they're like, I like the drool and the way that he was bleeding from like his neck. Yeah. well Like after they got bitten, and they're lying on the floor and there's like, then it looks good. When like the bites come out and it kind of like splashes, it looks pretty bad. That's really hard to do though.
00:25:02
Speaker
It is hard to do. Yeah. Especially if you're using IMAX cameras because just go pick up every little bit. Yeah, yeah. It's tough. Haley Steinfeld though. yeah Wow. You want some? Oh my God. All the comments. would let her in that room. Oh, dude. Like all the comments are just like, I could never date an actress. Ever.
00:25:20
Speaker
You got that. hate michael jordan forever and then you see his press conference he was like i heard i like the movie i thought it was pretty good you guys should all go see it and everybody was like god i feel bad for the man i feel like it'd be i wouldn't really care i think it'd be more funny than anything because it's like they're actually having sex no it's not unless it's hallie barry and what's his name and uh billy joe thornton yeah monsters actually actually having sex disgusting gross Terrible movie, too. I don't get why she gets so much love with that performance.
00:25:51
Speaker
She went to an Oscar for it. um Oh, I really like the cut the that cliffhanger in episode eight, though, when he jumps in front of the Kingpin. i was I was shocked. i was actually did not think he was good, though. it yeah I'm happy Bullseye came back the way he did.
00:26:05
Speaker
fucking Oh, my God. He's so good as Bullseye. I was saying, I think that he's perfect for it. No, Colin Farrell. I just watched it the other day

Character Analysis in Daredevil and Punisher

00:26:14
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and my hotel room and in Mm-hmm.
00:26:18
Speaker
terrible. It's so bad. That movie is... It's one of the worst edited movies I've ever seen. It's just bad. And that's coming from someone who actually loves that the Daredevil early 2000s movie. It is so poorly edited.
00:26:31
Speaker
So... dare I do love when he kills the lady on the plane, though. Yeah. sea makes I love when he puts the jacket on and there's rattlesnake noises. he's He's an Irish dude. Like, it doesn't... Why? when he flicks the dude with the...
00:26:44
Speaker
Oh, the toothpicks? Paperclips. Paperclips, yeah. It's so funny. It's so ridiculous. Oh, God. Those movies are something else. That movie is something else. But no, good bullseye. The fucking tooth to the eye. Oh, my God. He's so so good in this.
00:26:59
Speaker
yeah Yeah. I really hope he wears, like, the full-blown suit. Like, I like what they they kind of like, hinted at it more in the beginning. Something similar, at least. Yeah. Like wear that, but do like more prominent bullseye. Yeah.
00:27:12
Speaker
I don't need like the full light. Like they're not doing the Punisher latex, but just like, ah but what he was wearing in the beginning, even if I was like a bulletproof vest with a bullseye on it and it's fine. That's cool. I thought Punisher looks great. I liked the short sleeve look.
00:27:24
Speaker
I was more kit. If he does come out of trench cut, I will cheer. It's kind of like seeing what at the end of the penguin when he wears the top hat. Yeah. There's a cane. Yeah. umbrella like that was pretty cool. Um,
00:27:36
Speaker
But yeah, i think Daryl, I think the show, what it did perfectly was separating itself from the Netflix version, but not going too far from it. Like it's its own story again. It's in the MCU, but doesn't it's not as ground level.
00:27:52
Speaker
Like you know that there's more out there now. Yeah. That make sense? Yeah. Especially because he's fighting the mayor now. like That's going to be so good. you think it's going to be like Dark Knight Rises, like they blow up the bridges like to keep everyone in?
00:28:04
Speaker
I don't think it's going to get that bad. I It's going to get pretty fucking terrible. It's going to get bad. Yeah. How many people are but is the punch you're killing in this special presentation? Is he just dogging people? If it's under 100, I'm going to be upset. Is Daryl going to be in it? He has to, right?
00:28:19
Speaker
probably will. Unless it's literally just him escaping, which is kind of what they set up. He's dropping people. If it's just an hour of that, fucking I'm down, dude. you imagine? And then roll right into season two and they meet up immediately. He's just talking to blood. Yeah. It'd be great. Frank, are you okay?
00:28:35
Speaker
Yeah. That was like when me, you played Enlisted. And we were taking the beach and I got watched out the view. Who we played? Oh, it was with Connor. That's a game you need to play again.
00:28:46
Speaker
i still have it computer. Enlisted's so funny. It was fun. It's a good game. Oh my god. He just exits, stays left. It's so aggravating though. Just the way like you level up because you can only level up in one category. It takes so long.
00:29:01
Speaker
It's fun. But yeah, I think the Punisher... They need a... I mean, Jon Bernthal is writing it. Really? yeah Him and the right other writer. So, I mean, he said he wants it to... He said it's be the darkest thing that they've done. Fucking good.
00:29:15
Speaker
I want... i mean, that scene, like... Seeing the bullet holes through the table as he just kept shooting the dude looks so cool. Like, that's what I need. just need him to kill... I don't care if there there's any story as long as he's just dogging people. Because all you need to know is that he's killing people.
00:29:31
Speaker
yeah He's punishing the bad people. But, no Yeah. you um Do you agree with the critics? who have There's 8.2 on IMDb, 83 on Google, 9 out on IGN, and an 87 critic score with 80 audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. I think I agree with the audience score more than anything.
00:29:51
Speaker
Yeah, I think I have like IMDB. I think a little bit above an 80 because I feel like 80 is too close to 70. You know, I've seen people put it less lower than that. And I don't fully agree. feel like 70 is too low. Anything in the 70s. I think so. Because I really did like it. But I'm also I just love Daredevil.
00:30:06
Speaker
So I was just it could absolutely be Rose Tinting Glasses. But I'm fine with an 80. Yeah. I think 80 is fair. 9 is just IGN can't. IGN is the worst. They really they're so hit or miss on movies. Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:18
Speaker
What was the movie they gave a four that was not ah was was a terrible review? don't remember. There was something gave four. Me you saw were like, that's not a four. They gave She-Hulk a ten. They did give She-Hulk a ten.
00:30:29
Speaker
Oh, they and then they gave Dune a nine. Yeah. That needs to be flipped. I don't know. I'm so excited for Doom Messiah. Oh, I think wasn't it Penguin? They it like a four. They gave like four or six. Yeah.
00:30:43
Speaker
They gave Penguin a terrible that was fucking stupid. Penguin was so good. um I've been missing that show. I've been missing the Sopranos a lot recently. Missing Vic. Speaking of Sopranos, dude, fucking What's his name? Gandolfini. He's good in this.
00:30:57
Speaker
Yeah, really good. i like that scene where he's um talking to the board. like the Irish not Irish dude, the English dude. Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker. He's scary. In the restaurant. That was good.
00:31:09
Speaker
He fucking crapped that dude. Because the whole show, you're waiting. You're like, there's no way this guy is just an invite. Like, he's obviously a criminal of some kind. And he just... Bang. Done.
00:31:20
Speaker
Drop that man like a bad habit. What's next? So that goes from here. They're going to fight that Kingpin. Now, does Kingpin... They're doing more than one season. I feel like this battle has to go on more than a season. Yeah.
00:31:35
Speaker
I also do think... An issue, like you were saying, they separated it so much from the Netflix show. It does, as much as I like that Kingpin's back, because Kingpin's cool, and Vincent D'Onofrio is great as Kingpin, it does kind of diminish the ending of season three, where he's like, the city beat you.
00:31:53
Speaker
i beat you. Great scene. The city elected you, so they didn't really beat you. don't know. He kind of just didn't work. was saying that in the moment. He was trying to sound cool. He was so lightheaded. He couldn't see straight. Well, he couldn't see at all. Couldn't see at all.
00:32:07
Speaker
He couldn't hear straight. was here He was smelling sideways. Yeah, no, he was s fucked up. He was smelling shapes. man was It is so cool seeing them eat dinner in front of the painting still, though. Just the blood splat. It's great.
00:32:20
Speaker
I completely forgot until you just said that's what the blood splat is. Yeah. Completely forgot. So every time I saw him having the ropes on his hand is one of the coolest like decisions. oh dude. Do you know how much that would hurt? People don't, people were saying like, Oh, it's broke. It's not going to hurts page That shit is going to rip your face when it hits you.
00:32:41
Speaker
Oh, it's going to get like, it's going to hit harder. Yeah. It's going to hit harder. You're to rope burn and it's going to cut you. It's going to give you like micro cuts. Oh, that's a great, design that was a great design. Yeah. I will say i went back and watched them a season one.
00:32:53
Speaker
You know that first one take that they do? In the hallway? Yeah. The best fucking fight scene? it it does not age as well remember. Yeah, it does. No, it doesn't. I just watched it when my dad watched it. It doesn't look it doesn't have like he's not fast. Like it feels very much like what your problem because he's not he wasn't really Daredevil yet. He was still relatively new you't know I do like the rest of the TV. and thinking Oh, it's the best.
00:33:17
Speaker
It's so out. The guy just like starts wobbling back in. Boom. he He was just talking about that. That was like by accident or something. Really? It wasn't supposed to hit the dude. The dude walked into it. He just went with it? That's awesome.
00:33:30
Speaker
Yeah. But the end of that is great when he just walks out with the kid. That's a cool but I think it's also because he's tired probably, like really is tired. But he did talk about the reason why he didn't know the choreograph that well because he someone else was cast as Daredevil.
00:33:45
Speaker
Really? And they had to leave the project. He jumped in like super late and took on the role, which is insane because they've never talked about anyone else playing Daredevil. Yeah. I remember when the show got like came out, I had no idea that Daredevil was coming out.
00:33:59
Speaker
so grimy. I love it. Yeah. But, yeah, I feel like that's everything I have to say about Daredevil. I'm excited for season two. Yeah. I think it was a decent season with very high highs and just kind of boring episodes. Yeah, just yeah relatively mid.
00:34:15
Speaker
But season two should be phenomenal. If they can just keep up what it was like and the you know towards the end of the show, it's going to great. And the Punisher special.

Praise for Craig Mazin and 'The Last of Us' Discussion

00:34:25
Speaker
Please be good.
00:34:26
Speaker
Don't fuck it up. It has to be good. Where up my night was really good? Yeah. When the fuck is he coming back? Never. Nobody cares. How Blade getting canceled? I said it. I said it was going to get canceled.
00:34:37
Speaker
It's never going to happen. When Wesley Snipes says it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. yeah what was the other What was the other special president? Overrated movie. Blade? No, fucking fan fantastic.
00:34:49
Speaker
Oh, Deadpool? I think it's gotten way too much hype. Dude, it's got a lot of hate, too, though. like i I'm not saying it's a bad movie.
00:35:01
Speaker
Let me make sure I'm not talking out my ass. um But what other special presentations were there? There was Werewolf by Night, which was good. That's it? That was the only one? I thought there was two of them. don't think so.
00:35:13
Speaker
Fuck. Oh, no. I guess I am talking out my ass. I thought there was one. That's right. I could be completely wrong. That was good, though. Damn. Werewolf by Night. and now We watched that at my house. Yeah, it was great.
00:35:24
Speaker
And a fucking Man Thing, too. Man Thing thing? He did get a special presentation. No, but he was in Where Will Fly Night. Really cool to see him. That was a Swamp Thing movie. That movie's getting quick-ass traction, too.
00:35:37
Speaker
Really? Yeah, McFlanagan's directing it. I keep forgetting about that. Because he wrote he's directing that one, but he wrote Clayface. Clayface is already moving is in production. Fuck.
00:35:48
Speaker
yeah Damn. I think that's going fucking great. I feel like Flanagan's other that Life of Chuck. yeah Dude, looks good it has that chance where it's going be that movie that's just perfect. i'm like Yeah. It's going to be great. Mike Flanagan is so good. I told my mom Oh, Hunting in Hill House. Yeah, I told my mom to watch I told my mom to watch Hunting in Hill House because she brought up Life of Chuck. She was like, it's this movie that I saw the trailer for. It's Stephen King, it's not a horror. and I was like I looked it up.
00:36:14
Speaker
remembered that. I was like, you got to watch Haunting of Hill House. Because that is right up her alley where it's like Yeah, your mom likes It's horror. It's horror, but it's not like super scary the whole way through. and It's just fucking good. That jump scare. I was so excited.
00:36:26
Speaker
yeah that out it game It's one of the best jump scares. It's so out of there. yeah It's so out of there, but it's not like it does make sense. It's not just a jump scare. Yeah, like it's because she's mad that they're arguing.
00:36:37
Speaker
Yeah, okay. So it has a 78 critic score. That poem of Green. It has a 94 audience. People love Ryan Reynolds. I love Ryan Reynolds too. People love Ryan Reynolds. think closer to the critic score.
00:36:51
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think it's out of the It's definitely not in the What do we give it? Like an 83? I give it an 82. Yeah, I'd probably give it to like 94. I think it's just above two. yeah Because I think two has some really dragging moments.
00:37:04
Speaker
I think one is awesome though. One is the best. I love one. I was explaining to my dad the why they don't fight at the end of the first one. like with like No money. they that was like They ran out of budget. They just had nothing left. yeah Francis?
00:37:18
Speaker
Francis. and my dad say that all the time. Francis, you have something in your teeth. Oh, your poor wife. So good. Have you ever seen 47 Hours?
00:37:30
Speaker
So good. I love that movie. He was like, Dad?
00:37:36
Speaker
That version was dead when I got here. It is so dumb. If it's not, if you don't like sarcastic fucking dick humor, you're not going to like Deadpool. Yeah. But if you do, it's the best.
00:37:48
Speaker
I think the opening Daredevil Wolverine, I keep saying Daredevil. Deadpool Wolverine is one of my favorite Marvel openings. I love the dance and the music. Oh, yeah, that's great. I thought that it was pretty cool. I think it just, eventually i was like, okay, i get the humor. Get me to the, i want to see the, like I love the whole Deadpool fighting, Deadpool stuff.
00:38:04
Speaker
Like the bus? Yeah. like the yeah and I thought it was cool. I did like the same. He's like, I can do that too. The proposal. That was funny. That was funny. But enough of Deadpool Wolverine.
00:38:16
Speaker
Going over to the show. I'm really excited to talk about it because been waiting to hear Ryan's thoughts on it. That's the last of the season too. Because you don't love the games like I did. Right? you The second game.
00:38:27
Speaker
I thought you didn't love the second game. No, I liked the second game. In my head this whole time, i thought you didn't like the second game. I told Sammy didn't like the second game. Maybe I didn't like it as much as you did. There's a lot more.
00:38:39
Speaker
There's a lot of filler in the second one because it's so long. Yeah, it's very, very long. It doesn't really tell you anything because when you get in Seattle for the first time, I was so fucking lost. And I did, by luck, find the guitar.
00:38:51
Speaker
Oh, yeah, when you're going through that little like Yeah, with Dino. Yeah. First off, Isabella Marcade, perfect as Dina. Oh, she's been great, yeah. Did you see her quote? No. She's like, for all the gays out there, she's like, the gays are going to be eaten this season. it she is all I love her. I'm so excited for her to be Hawkgirl. She's funny.
00:39:11
Speaker
She's going as Hawkgirl. Yeah. I always forget she's Dora, too. Damn, she's playing some Icon. Hawkgirl. Dude, the scene in the door.
00:39:23
Speaker
I don't know if anyone here has seen the door or anyone watching. I have to double check that she was Dora and I'm not being racist. But I genuinely think she was Dora. Have seen the Dora live action? No. Okay, there's a scene because Michael Pena is in it. yeah That's her uncle.
00:39:35
Speaker
She does like the thing from the show and she's like, can you say whatever word? And he's like Thank God. not Not racist. Let's go, baby. But yeah, Michael Peña, like she's like, can you say delicioso? And looks right but tv like at the theater.
00:39:51
Speaker
And he's like, what the hell is wrong with that? And I laughed out loud in the theater. And Boots has the deepest voice. Really? I'm telling you, it's genuinely funny. What the hell voices Boots?
00:40:03
Speaker
Wait, Diego was in that movie?
00:40:06
Speaker
I always thought they were dating as a kid. Somebody's crazy. It was so weird when I realized they were cousins. It's his cousin, dude. They're flirting. Benicio Del Toro was swiper.
00:40:18
Speaker
What? du im I'm telling you. the fuck is Randy? I'm telling you, you need to watch the movie. It is genuinely funny. I will.
00:40:29
Speaker
I want to watch the Minecraft movie. I was watching the Clueless. I was listening Clueless podcast. Dude, I'm telling you. they They all said that the first hit is really funny. Like, it kind of drags in the second half. a little bit. It does. It does.
00:40:41
Speaker
but They hated Napoleon. I'm telling you. Well, you like Napoleon Dynamite, right? love Napoleon. Just understand it's not good. It's not supposed to be. It's a fucking Minecraft movie, and you can have fun. All right? That's all you got to do to go over it. That's what they all kept saying. Like, people who are grown as adults hating on the Minecraft movie need shut the fuck up.
00:40:59
Speaker
Which I guess I kind of was with the Mario movie. You fucking bitch. Again, I didn't grow didn't grow on I haven't grown up on Minecraft. I had my own kind of like out of the, I only had the Mario game on the DS. Yeah. If you like Mario Kart.
00:41:13
Speaker
I do like Mario. I barely ever played Mario Kart. You didn't play Mario Kart. I've played Mario Kart probably four times. You are dead inside. No. You didn't play Mario was so much Ryan Reynolds sent in the IMF and like your head moving. Or a hive mind.
00:41:27
Speaker
Everybody named Ryan. We all think the same thing. That's how it works. You all are married to a woman who might have made up a whole story about this. Maybe. Justin Baldoni. First all, he's an asshole too. That whole story is that whole They all suck. They're all just assholes. They're all rich douchebags.
00:41:43
Speaker
Yeah. Well. Except my sweet baby, Ryan Reynolds. I think Ryan Reynolds with everything is still a good person. Yeah. like Everyone says he's nice. No one's ever said anything bad about him. How about Wrexham?
00:41:55
Speaker
I haven't watched. Is there a new season? You don't know what happened? i've seen season one and two. So you have no idea what just happened? No. Do they win some? Do they get promoted? Yeah. To what? Champions?
00:42:05
Speaker
Yeah. They're in the Champions League? Holy shit. Three straight promotions. The first time ever. That's insane. In the history of soccer. That's crazy. Colin even said to me, he's like, he's like you just need to He's like, this is unheard of.
00:42:17
Speaker
Yeah. Holman doesn't even play. Really? He's on the bench. Fuck. never really came back from when he got hurt. Okay. Which, I mean, he did snap crush his lung. Yeah. They have couple of dudes that kind of dope, though.
00:42:29
Speaker
So they went from they started National League and then they went what was Tier 1, 2, 2, Tier 3, Champions League, right? Are there two tiers? Fuck. That's incredible. how many see How many seasons are there out now? Two. The second the third one comes out this summer. Okay. So I am caught up. I just haven't I finished season two either.
00:42:44
Speaker
Okay. I finished season two. I haven't finished season two. It was still good. But yeah. My mom just sent me a tattoo. She said, this is cool with the eyes. It's the the crow one. But the only thing I'm, so I'm trying to explain to my mom. So for everyone who doesn't know, all my tattoos stop at my elbow.
00:43:03
Speaker
heard But I never wear short sleeves to my job interviews or like any important thing. I would always wear long sleeves. I don't understand why my mom makes it. So this is here.
00:43:14
Speaker
What's the difference to putting it right here? Like I don't understand why it's such a big deal that to stop at this. You should stop at your elbow. Why? are you going to wear three-quarter sleeves all the time or are you going to wear short sleeves?
00:43:25
Speaker
I said long sleeves. Like if I ever do Never wearing short sleeves. Never if I'm going to something important. Well, it doesn't matter if you have it doesn't matter if it's an interview. If you wear short sleeves to a job I can't stop.
00:43:38
Speaker
If you wear short sleeves to a job after the interview, they're going to be like, hey, you have tattoos? You didn't tell us that. You didn't tell us that you had tattoos. I'm sorry. I didn't First 75% of people from the age of 20 40 have tattoos now.
00:43:50
Speaker
else Yeah, nobody fucking cares nowadays. but It's not getting a racist tattoo. Oh, I just looked. I was going to say, you you said somebody sent you tattoos. I literally looked up racist tattoos. was going to be like, Tom, you can look at this tattoo.
00:44:03
Speaker
Fucking caught me. Oh my God. Yeah, there's some horrible tattoos. That's what saying. None of my tattoos are offensive. They're not bloody. There's nothing wrong with my tattoos. I've never understood the whole thing.
00:44:13
Speaker
The one's kind of racist. Which one? The one in your mom's handwriting. Yeah.
00:44:20
Speaker
For everyone who doesn't know, do have a lot of tattoos. But I want to go past my elbow. That's my whole thing. I want a sleeve on my one arm. How is this racist? I don't want to face that. It's not like I'm getting things on my hand or anything.
00:44:32
Speaker
No. And first of all, if I am working in like a desk job, which God forbid, if any of you ever seen me working in a cubicle, throw me out the fucking window. Why are Norse runes racist?
00:44:43
Speaker
Well, because they're Vikings. The Vikings were horrible human beings. Well, yeah. But the last us- So were Italians. but And Germans. Dirty, sweaty, Jersey people.
00:44:54
Speaker
God, greaseballs. I was talking about the, ah that you know, Axis Powers. So yeah, Last of Us. Season 2. The Queenos are the game for us.
00:45:06
Speaker
Joel and Ellie, pair connected through the harshness of the world they live in, are forced to endure brutal circumstances and ruthless killers on a trek across the post-outbreak America. That's season 1. Season 2,
00:45:17
Speaker
It's going to continue that. It's a five-year jump, which is one year longer than them the game is. And we're kind of seeing where they're at life living in Jackson, ah Wyoming, right? Yeah.
00:45:28
Speaker
And we're kind where their life is. We know that there's a rift between the two of them, and that comes from the end of season one where Joel lies about what happened with Ellie. And all the fireflies. I agree with what Joel did, like Neil Druckmann does.
00:45:42
Speaker
I feel like that's I texted Ryan when I was playing the game, fuck the cure, because I wanted I didn't want Ellie to go. So I completely understand where he's coming from, and I didn't think it was as big of a deal. But I get that he lies to Ellie, so it's going to be you can tell there's a riff.
00:45:56
Speaker
We haven't seen what the riff like, we didn't see how that all comes about yet. But so far has an 8.7 out of 10 IMDb, 95 on Rotten Tomatoes with a 90% on Googled. Again, this was written by ah Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann.
00:46:12
Speaker
And Craig Mazin is one of the best showrunners. This dude just knows how to make television. Yeah, he's fucking good. what He's done Chernobyl in this, right? Yeah, he's professional. Fuck. Man, don't miss. what So just so everyone knows this is a spoiler thing because we're going be about like what happened to the episodes and what's going to happen.
00:46:31
Speaker
after So if you haven't watched all the episodes of the last of us, go watch episodes one through three. Come back and listen to this episode because so it's really hard to talk about the events and what's going to happen. We're spoiling everything. Yeah, because you can't really talk about the main thing that's happened without.
00:46:46
Speaker
We're doing a when Arya, when Nymeria bit Joffrey and Sansa came in. You're spoiling it. You're spoiling everything. Huh? Deep cut, dude. Season one, Game Thrones. Damn, you really Deep cut.
00:47:01
Speaker
Deep cut. I don't even know what you're talking about. It's my fair all the I don't even you're talking about. Tough shit, dude. So if you that was your chance. I'm going to go back to talking about the show now.
00:47:13
Speaker
So going with the first episode, it's a half decade following the Salt Lake City incident. Ellie is now 19 years old. ah She encounters a new threat and we get see Joel seeking help from a therapist.
00:47:25
Speaker
That addition of Kathleen O'Hara's character is one of my favorite changes. I love her. Yeah. She's just an alcoholic who's trying to be a therapist in a post-apocalyptic world.
00:47:38
Speaker
And I think that might have been the best acting in Pedro Pascal's career. It was good. was that sequence. and I really liked and I liked what he says. um They says he saved her. because he did I mean, as much as Ellie didn't want what happened, he did save her.
00:47:55
Speaker
i name it's bullshit. What did the cure didn't work and they just killed a 14-year-old girl? Womp womp. Do you think they should have let you think Joel should okay. It have been a really shitty game if he was like, all right, see you. Also, the guy was not unarmed, Abby. Your father was not some nice guy.
00:48:15
Speaker
I think he was in the show. No, he's holding the he reached on the table. He's like, stand back. In the game, he does. yeah he just I don't remember. think he does the same thing. I don't remember. Oh, he might put his hands I actually I think in the show he does put his hands up.
00:48:29
Speaker
I don't remember. I don't remember well. They replayed it. like that He doesn't even look. he just him. At least you didn't burn the nurses alive like I did, but it's okay. I left the nurses alive.
00:48:41
Speaker
Coward. I just lit the dude out with a machine gun and him kept going. All right. You keep talking. I'll pull it up. I'll pull up season one. We get to see the new versions of the Infected, the Stalkers.
00:48:53
Speaker
They're probably the best. Actually, the fucking Clickers are the best things in the game. In the game, the story. I forgot they weren't in season one, too. Clickers? Oh, I was like, clickers are in season one. was I was like, first big scenes with them. i thought Yeah, stalkers are in season one.
00:49:10
Speaker
Stalkers are really cool. We're going to get a lot more raiders in this season. And we're going to learn about the religious group. um But yeah. Seraphites. Seraphites. That was a good scene at the end of episode three. With them.
00:49:24
Speaker
We're going to learn about the Wolves, the Federation, all that. Season two is going to be a lot of information for people who haven't played the games. That's why I think it was a good idea to split in into two seasons the second game because there is a lot to learn that everyone has to see. All right. He grabbed a scalpel the size of my pinky finger, and Joel did not take a second.
00:49:42
Speaker
Hey. So we had a weapon. It was self-defense. You got a knife. I don't know if it holds up in court. His brains are all over the place. Dude, he had 17. Fuck you, Abby. Dumb bitch. Yeah.
00:49:55
Speaker
Kayla Debra, I think she's getting too much hate. I don't really like her as Abby. She's not getting any hate. Yes, she is. Physically, she's getting hate. Yeah, because she's not the Hulk. Yeah. Abby in the game is an unrealistic build. Yes. Abby in the game has bigger arms than I do. Yes.
00:50:11
Speaker
She's Jack. Bella Ramsey is getting hate. Bella Ramsey, that is something. I love Bella Ramsey. I will say though, nothing about how she looks. I don't, I, like we said, go back to our first season review. I don't a were much on the side of that. I give fuck. She was, great as Ellie.
00:50:24
Speaker
She still looks like a child. Like, kind of does. I do think that she does look older than she does in season. her heart, not her fault. She's just, you know, it's how she grew up. Yeah, I mean, 14 to 19. I thought they were going to shorten the jump.
00:50:35
Speaker
That's what I kind of thought. They that. But i mean, she does look older. I mean, it was two years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's supposed to look like 16-year-old, not a 19-year-old. um the Yeah, because they went further with the jump.
00:50:46
Speaker
They didn't go shorter. So how old is Ellie supposed to be in the games? 18. 18? She's 19 in this. 19 in this. And Abby's supposed to be... Joel's 61 at this point.
00:50:57
Speaker
Because remember, they added another decade yeah in the storyline. Abby's 17, so that makes Abby 22. 22. Played by 28-year-old. only to played by a twenty eight year She's 28.
00:51:08
Speaker
She was really good. Upset me. Like she looks really young. Yeah. She's really good as Abby. People were having a problem with um her saying her plan from the beginning. had no I can understand that.
00:51:20
Speaker
For people who don't know the game and That's why I felt like it was okay to say it. No, I don't Remember the game Like imagine You have no idea. You're really rooting for Abby. Yeah, that's the point. It's like you're rooting for this character. Yeah, I do. She's the main character and you're like, holy fuck.
00:51:34
Speaker
you know what I mean? and that that was I understood that because it kind of tells everybody, yeah you know, like, oh, shit. Watch out for this girl. Yeah, my dad should have been my dad thought Ellie was going to kill her. Abby. My dad was like, oh, he's not dying.
00:51:49
Speaker
My dad was like, I was on the verge of tears. I can't believe they did it. Yeah, my dad was like, huh. That was like the main guy. Like, yeah. Did you see that? him of the credits. Did they? Yeah,

Analysis of Key Scenes and Performances

00:52:00
Speaker
it's Bella Renz. And you know the scene in the the opening when the two shadows go on them walking?
00:52:04
Speaker
Yeah. It's just her now. Oh, man. Dude, they changed it. was like, fuck, man. I thought they did a great scene job with that scene. Yeah. I really liked it. I knew that they couldn't show it fully.
00:52:15
Speaker
I wish they did. But the adding, ah they don't shoot him the knees, right, in the game? Yeah, she does. Oh, I just remember them hitting him. Oh, she blasts him, dude. Dude, that looks so good in the movie. in the movie The show, like the way it is. oh I'm pretty sure she shot him in the in the game.
00:52:30
Speaker
He was so his performance was really good too, but she was so good. And you know how the girl's crying, her friend her like friend, during that whole sequence in the in the episode? The girl with the short dark hair? Yeah, yeah, She's like crying. she crying? Yeah.
00:52:42
Speaker
That was genuine. She was like having like a panic attack because of the whole like how loud Cailin Devin. And don't know if anyone If you're paying attention, notice. Caitlin Devers' mom died shortly before all this. Yeah. So did give her the extra. It was like think the funeral was three days before that scene. Yeah, three days before the episode. The filming of that.
00:53:00
Speaker
tough, man. Dude, I mean she's The way it just pans over to the golf clubs though. Oh, it did. I was like, oh, goddammit.
00:53:09
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, and then the stabbing in the neck. That was rough. I mean that was like Also, Bel-Rain's performance during that, like yelling, was really good. It was good. It's hard scene to like recreate.
00:53:21
Speaker
i mean It's so iconic in the gaming world. It's super tough. I will say, though, about that scene, which this is a ah valid argument from IGN they brought up. It is going to be a bit of a change that it was Dina with Joel and not Tommy.
00:53:37
Speaker
Because Tommy was there and he gets they pulled him back and he can't do anything. And then that's what makes him go for his revenge. But now... Tommy I feel like Tommy is still going to end up in Seattle. Yeah, that they just changed the I think they just I think Tommy is going to go because he doesn't want anything to happen to Ellie. I think that's Which I kind of works because yeah he wants to protect as you see in the third episode. But i do think I don't think it's going to be huge. I think it's still going to be end up being a similar story. It's just how why it happens. Yeah, because let's just put it like this.
00:54:07
Speaker
if this was real, like now, and you died, let's just say you're Joel in this situation, like you get stabbed and killed. And i find out and I wasn't there. I'm still going to go find this human being. and I'm still going to cause mayhem.
00:54:19
Speaker
And for those who haven't played the game, You were in for a fucking treat with some of the Seattle stuff that's coming up now. We'll see how it goes. We'll see. I think they're still to do it. We probably should have said game spoilers.
00:54:32
Speaker
We mentioned we played the games. you should mean I think we've talked about that before. I said we are spoiling everything. This episode is game spoilers. We're going talk about where we think it's going to go. You should have said this earlier.
00:54:45
Speaker
Oh, well. If you didn't know, i felt like it. It's been out for five years? Five years? um i don't know. Maybe longer than that. um How about the ending of the two of the song? they really They really decided to take a deep cut at that. yeah I knew what it was just because i i remember the trailer coming out for the second one.
00:55:04
Speaker
Really? Yeah, like I remember that happening. 2020, five five years Wow, it's 2020. Yeah, I remember it because it's her just playing the guitar. yeah Yeah. That was the reason I wanted the PlayStation then.
00:55:16
Speaker
wanted to play The Last of Us because the first one looked so cool and it was. I'm so excited. I thought they did a great job so far. I know they had to take changes. The addition of the Jackson Attack was so excuse me fucking awesome.
00:55:32
Speaker
I was so into that. Oh, yeah, it completely changed. every like yeah It really made it better, in my opinion. Yeah, like it made the whole knowing that the last thing Joel sees is that Jackson's on fire doesn't know if his brother's alive changes like the whole I like that he doesn't.
00:55:47
Speaker
I actually like the change of having Dina there. Because feel like it leaves Tommy with even more that he like I know he couldn't stop when he's there. So maybe it helps him a little bit with the whole morning process. And it gives Dina more of a reason to go with Ellie. Like she said, it's like I loved him too. Like he was Yeah, I wish that we did get a little more of them, yeah which I think we are because I know there's going flashbacks because there's scenes from the trailers that we haven't seen yet. Yeah, Pedro Pascal is still going to be in the you the show. Did you know in the game trailer for the second one, Neil Druckmann had them create cut scenes that weren't real?
00:56:21
Speaker
the pun Like there's scenes of Joel places he never gets to experience. and But just to mess with people. Yeah. I thought they were going rabbit scene. I was waiting. The famous clip with the rabbit. Yeah, that's the first game.
00:56:35
Speaker
That's second game. That's the first game. is it that's Yeah, it's when Joel gets injured in Ellie. Oh, that is what it is. That's when he plays Ellie for the first time. This is the beginning of when you're going, we're killing all the people. Oh, that is the first game when Ellie's killing everyone in the snow.
00:56:50
Speaker
It's so fucking adorable. Sam's never seen that. ah so I was like, dude, i was like head'sing um and I'm not a huge social media person. I remember that. yeah, um but yeah I ah really liked I like the changes so far. I don't think there's been any changes I'm like mad at. No, I don't think so.
00:57:08
Speaker
And I think that I think Neil Druckmann, I'm so excited to see what else he does. Cause I know they have that new game coming out with like the robots. and Yeah. The space one. Yeah. i think it's gonna be cool. It's like enter galactic, something like that.
00:57:19
Speaker
I do want the third game. Yeah, of course. If they do the Tommy story, which is what he wants the third game to be about. Now. Yeah. Again, we're spoiling the game.
00:57:32
Speaker
Do they change the ending of the game? No. I think they need to. What do you mean by change the ending of the game? She needs die. Ellie? No. She needs to be killed.
00:57:43
Speaker
Abby. Oh, Abby? By Abby. No. Why? Because the whole point of the game is it's about forgiveness. Fuck forgiveness. If someone kills my dad, I want that person dead.
00:57:56
Speaker
So that their semi, you know, spiritually adopted kid can come and kill you next. It's just the circle of, you know, violence. Ellie sees, I forget the kid's name, but Ellie sees the kid that's with Abby, the Scar kid.
00:58:10
Speaker
And she's like, oh, it's the same thing. And if I kill Abby, then, you know, maybe he'll come for me or they'll come for me. Just kill all of them. The kid?
00:58:21
Speaker
All of them. And drown the kid? he says Abby needs to die. You'd kill him with the fucking motor on the boat, dude. I would. I'll stick the head in the exhaust pipe. You're sick fuck.
00:58:32
Speaker
Jesus. I hate Abby. God, I need... What was that whats the kid's name? Or Tommy needs to do it. I'm the sister, too. don't remember their names. Someone killed my brother.
00:58:44
Speaker
oh Yeah, it'd be game over. they're goingnna I'm going to torture them. Yeah. Golf club's going to least of your worries. But so I think I would know but I know that's a big I know that's very controversial in the gaming world, what how that ends. i know a lot people do The entire game is controversial.
00:59:03
Speaker
Yeah, the game is controversial. Because I mean It's incredibly split. They kill the main character of the game. The main guy. Did you see in the and next week's episode trailer that she plays she's with the guitar?
00:59:14
Speaker
I told Sam, was like, there's a chance I may cry. Yeah, of course. I think that's a great now, can Bella Ramsey sing
00:59:24
Speaker
Or i know john is Ashley Johnson going to sing over She's going to lip sync it. It'd be so funny. Or its maybe just it's just her playing it and then they put the like song over it. Maybe. don't know. Or maybe she can sing. Who knows?
00:59:36
Speaker
um I am really excited for that scene. cause i I love that that's not a mandatory scene in the game. But if you find it, it happens. And everybody has played it. Especially people figured it out, they're like, want this scene.
00:59:49
Speaker
But I am... Very excited for more of last episode. I'm super excited for episode four because I love everything with this world. And I think it's the best version of a post-apocalyptic world.
01:00:02
Speaker
of what i Like how it like the city looks now. and Yeah, it is cool. I think it's just really well done. um I'm excited to see more of the Wolf people, the Federation.

Gaming Discussions and Adaptation Debate

01:00:13
Speaker
Oh my god, Danny Ramirez is also fucking great in this. He's had not a ton to do so far. The Falcons... partner. the I think I know who you're talking about. Yeah, he's playing the Falcon in the Marvel movies.
01:00:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, him. Yeah, yeah. He's a dick. He is. He's in the game too. Yeah, he's a dick in the game too. um yeah I just think there's a a lot of characters I'm really excited to see more of.
01:00:38
Speaker
We get Jeffrey Wright this week. Yeah, i don't know how much he's going to be in though. that like He's a super huge part. but Yeah, because that casting happened before I played the second game and then I played the second game and I was like, oh, he's in two scenes.
01:00:51
Speaker
But think they're going add on to because you're going to see Eugene in this too. Yeah. You don't see Eugene in the game. No, I think they will add to it, but I just wonder how. Just like you don't get that many flashbacks of page of Joel in the game. I think they're going to add on a couple. Yeah, it's like two, three or four.
01:01:04
Speaker
Do you think they do the the PTSD attack and that when you're crawling? Probably. That's a good scene in the game. Let's get the fuck out here. That game is so good. I might go back and play it again. I was thinking about it.
01:01:18
Speaker
yeah No, I might have to play Last of Us first because now that's currently what I'm doing. but it says I could beat The Last of Us from now until when Sam leaves. going to keep You can. yeah I could definitely beat it again. You could beat Red Dead too.
01:01:29
Speaker
Yeah, but Red Dead, I don't want to be like... If you push the story, but I don't want you to push it. Yeah, they're on go slow I want to go slow. I'm going to be really sad already that my girlfriend is fucking halfway across the country. So maybe it's going to give me something to also be sad about. Yeah.
01:01:45
Speaker
oh And I'm going to be bedreden bedridden for two weeks. Yeah, it's good time to play. I'm not going to have anything else to do. You're going to get No, I'm going to be on that Zep band. Give me those injectables, bitch. I'm going to get that fucking... You're going to be evaporating.
01:02:02
Speaker
But but yeah, i what the next episode? Sometimes they're so bad at doing it. You know when you go on Google and you Overy and tells you the episodes? Yeah.
01:02:14
Speaker
It goes episode one, Future Days, episode episode two, Through the Valley. Again, per great episode. um And then it goes season two, episode so five. Nothing about four. um How many episodes is this season? we last Seven.
01:02:28
Speaker
Seven? Last one was eight, right? Last one was nine. That's eight. But everybody was like... It's one less. Yeah. Because I guess cause they they're splitting it. Yeah, they are splitting it. but It's the 16 episodes.
01:02:40
Speaker
That's a lot. you can do The second game was doubled in length of the first one. That's what saying. think you can do it in 16. You're doubling the Maybe. You're doing two seasons. So you're doubling the game. It's two episodes. Well, we don't know if season three is in eight.
01:02:53
Speaker
it It could be more. i don't know. We'll see. Yeah. Again, it's the same thing how feel about House of the Dragon, which now thinking about of the Dragon more, I was a big fan of season two. I still think it was really good.
01:03:04
Speaker
They definitely did drag a little bit. Yeah. Because they wanted to push it out more. Mm-hmm. I think if they push this another season, it's going too far. I think four is too much.
01:03:15
Speaker
Three is good. I think three, they could absolutely do it in three. But if it's seven episodes this season or eight episodes, like this they got it they got to push some stuff forward. Because there's stuff you can cut.
01:03:27
Speaker
Oh, absolutely. Because there's times where you're just riding a horse. Yeah, a lot of the game is just walking Because they can cut a lot the riding at the pretty beginning of the Yeah, they go from Wyoming to Seattle in 10 minutes. Yeah.
01:03:38
Speaker
yeah such a Dude, that scene when they find the bodies was very upsetting. Yeah, it's cool.
01:03:46
Speaker
Damn. I like it. kind of I can't remember what's next in the game. Like, my brain only remembers beginning and the end. Yeah. i might I might hop back on the game and just kind of, like, jump around the chapters a little bit.
01:03:57
Speaker
Just kind of refresh. But, yeah. Isn't it crazy The of never came to Xbox? I really thought they were going to eventually sell the world. Like, they' were going to let them play it. No. ever They were just like, fuck you, x what fuck you Xbox. Xbox has literally in the last three years fallen out of the race.
01:04:14
Speaker
Yeah. Because they have nothing exclusive. Apparently anything. Well, is Oblivion exclusive? What's Oblivion? The new Elder Scrolls. there They remade it. No, they did. Elder Scrolls is the... Elden Ring is both.
01:04:26
Speaker
Elden Ring, yeah. because I can't play that. Yeah. PS5. But the thing with Xbox is that they get the ah like Microsoft games and stuff.
01:04:38
Speaker
Like what? I know Halo, but ha Halo's going to PlayStation. That's true. Starfield. It's dog shit. i was going to you're going to hold that to any of the... No.
01:04:49
Speaker
Fucking... guess you gave them a bone by letting them have MLB. Like Bethesda games. If there's ever good Fallout again. don't think that's ever happening. I think they ran out juice. Yeah. Talk about another show that's going to come back and I'm very excited for.
01:05:02
Speaker
I really like Fallout. I liked it. I thought it was alright. I think I'm more excited to see more Walter Goggins. Yeah. I need to watch White Lotus. Everyone's grieving about that show. Yeah. For, I mean, since season one, i have zero interest in it. Yeah. Like I, I doesn't, doesn't seem like I want to watch it to see if those brothers actually bang. Cause I'm very curious about that part of it.
01:05:21
Speaker
They do. I know they do. I know because the everybody's talking about Arnold's son was talking about it. Do you see him talk about with his girlfriend? No. His girlfriend was like, he's like, I'm in White Lotus.
01:05:32
Speaker
He's like, me He's like, you know I can't do that. He's like, tell do you hook up with anyone? He's like, I do. He's like, who is He's like, I can't tell you. And then the episode came out. She's like, your brother? I love him too.
01:05:44
Speaker
We're also getting um Gen Z trailers soon. They confirmed. gen Oh, Gen V. When I say Gen Z. Yeah. Gen V, we're getting a trailer. I'm so down for another season of that. That was the biggest surprise.
01:05:59
Speaker
Yeah, it just super rushed ending. Oh, the ending was so rushed. but Because like the last episode was like fucking 40 minutes long. i was shocked that this episode was so short. It felt short, but it was like 57 minutes.
01:06:11
Speaker
Yeah, but that includes the credits and the... then No, no, no. It didn't. it was that It was like an hour 18. No, this episode was 57 minutes. no I swear it's 57 minutes. i swear I said something to Sam last night about it.
01:06:26
Speaker
I thought it felt short too, but then I looked and I was like, oh, I really liked the scene with Tommy with the body. those Yeah, I thought that was good. When he said, ah give Sarah my love, dude.
01:06:37
Speaker
was like, no. It says 57 minutes. It's actually an hour and 11. Oh, I guess. Wow. Because the time's on like the actual. Is it just from beginning of episode to end of characters? Yeah. character yeah yeah oh Like on the on the UI. Yeah.
01:06:52
Speaker
Yeah, the additions, they don't count on the ah runtime.
01:06:58
Speaker
Yeah, so we'll see with episode four. don't know where it's going to depend on where they leave this season off for us to like really tell. How i mean they're going to be able to do the second season.
01:07:09
Speaker
I also wonder if it's going to be like I don't know if like six episodes of the second season is Abby and then it's like the last two, they go back to Ellie. You know what I mean? That'd be cool. I wouldn't mind following Abby for a bit. I really like Caitlin Dever.
01:07:25
Speaker
Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Because either they do it this season, they do some Abby episodes, or if they do three seasons and the third season is just Abby, people will fucking riot.
01:07:36
Speaker
Yeah. like that's a two i feel like I just feel like three is going to be too long. I know. Three is good. I feel like if they push out the four, it will be too long. Yeah. And I'll get bored. Yeah. But I think they've also talked about the show being like outmoving the games though. Yeah. they pass the If they make a new story, I'm fine with that.
01:07:52
Speaker
Yeah. Because instead of doing maybe the third game, you do the Tommy storyline in this. I'm cool that. I love the dude who plays Tommy. Diego Luna? i think I think that's his name. I think it's Tom Luna.
01:08:02
Speaker
But I really like that scene where he's washing Joel's hands and everything. And the scene was really good with Ellie going back to the house. I think like all the stuff that was in the game that I really loved, I really liked in this.
01:08:13
Speaker
yeah And the way that they did like the sun hitting his jacket, it felt like in the game you're trying to like figure out where you're going. yeah I liked her getting the gun. There's a note though, isn't there? In the game, doesn't she read like a note from Joel?
01:08:25
Speaker
in the house before she goes out. I think, yeah. i swear that was something. I also like the... I'm jumping around a lot. I like that the guy who makes the homophobic comment, I like that they gave him a little bit.
01:08:37
Speaker
Yeah. Like, as much as maybe he has his old views, which are wrong, i'm not vouching for the guy, that he still for the... Tommy very differently in private. but That's not true. Don't say that.
01:08:49
Speaker
That he still for the cause. Because that scene in the council was so well done with him. Yeah. I really like I really am really all in on the show. I think IGN again has had some terrible takes because they gave episode two a six.
01:09:05
Speaker
I think yeah. and They gave yesterday's a seven. Seven is not too far off from the last the episode was good but it was it was like Wait. wait What do you mean? Like yeah or episode two they gave a seven? No, they gave episode two a six.
01:09:18
Speaker
I just fucking The episode three is seven. I'm saying seven for episode three is not too far off. No, I don't think It was very much seeing what happens after. Yeah, it was very much Neil Druckmann talked about it. He's like, we have a whole like the game, you had a little bit of time to mourn, but it's so the game so action-oriented, you had to like get to it.
01:09:34
Speaker
You have a whole episode to mourn Joel. Yeah, which is and you're still going mourn Joel. There's still going stuff with Joel throughout the season. But it was nice to have like it didn't feel like you right into the fight again. Like there was some time like sit with it.
01:09:47
Speaker
know what happened. Yeah. I'm with IGN. I think it was fantastic. love the addition. I think, did you see that they were like, the last of us episode two, season two, episode two gave us the battle for Winterfell. We deserved.
01:10:00
Speaker
Yeah. I thought it was a perfect quote for it. That's good. Dude. So Tommy went John Wickham with that pistol. He's just walking down the road. Oh, they all just ran past him. Yeah. wonder why.
01:10:10
Speaker
don't know. He's and he's immune. Yeah. He's not. He's also a new Himinelli. Yeah, for sure. um What else? Oh, the scene with him with the flamethrower was cool with the boomer.
01:10:22
Speaker
It's a boomer, right? Bloater. Bloater. Boomer's in Left 4 Dead, right? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to explain to Sam how the name is on. There's four. There's one more.
01:10:34
Speaker
They haven't seen it. The Rat King.
01:10:38
Speaker
That's what people call him. That was the part in the first game that scared the fuck out me. We're going through the tunnels. In the first game? Yeah. you have the It's with the brothers.
01:10:49
Speaker
oh Oh, yeah. You talking when We were running from like the clickers and the... don't know why. i was actually getting hard pal attention playing it. Yeah, the stalkers. Yeah, I don't like that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That scene the stalker was really good.
01:11:00
Speaker
The stalkers are freaky. i My only... talking about an issue for once. My only issue so far was the scene with the clickers and Dina and her. I think they it was a little... too lighthearted where I want to be a little more serious.
01:11:13
Speaker
You know what I'm talking about? understand that. yes Besides that, I really don't have many things to complain about. I think it looks great. I still think the CGI... I think the CGI improved.
01:11:26
Speaker
Right? because feel like there were shots in the second night The first season I didn't like. Yeah, think it's still fine. Yeah, like I don't feel like there's anything wrong. But again, using the real people as the zombie, not zombies, infected, I think it was a great decision.
01:11:41
Speaker
Yeah. Makeup looks great. sure All that looks good. Of course. do you have something you're most excited to see from here? From now on? I mean, it was Joel getting beaten to death with a golf club, but they that I mean, we've been talking about it since the first episode of the first season. Yeah. Like that, it's, it's so funny. Like, I mean, if I go back and listen to those reviews, there's definitely us like hitting at it.
01:12:01
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Because all, we were like, wow, this Yeah, Ryan texted me, everyone. Ryan knew how sad I was going to be from this episode. Ryan texted me, he's like, you watched it yet? was like, yep, I don't want to talk about is exactly said, and he responded to the guy swinging at golf club.
01:12:15
Speaker
Sam cried. we um we' were down the shore, and she was like like, he's not dead, right? I was like, oh, no. No, he's fine. My dad did the same. My dad's like, he's not dead. It ain't control.
01:12:25
Speaker
they And he like texted me. He's like, what the fuck was that? He's fine. Just resting. Oh no. He opened the door. That's when we all on the call. And he's like, yeah yeah what was that He stopped sending me in the gym to be like, how about that episode? He's like, I watched it again. I don't know why I watched it again.
01:12:42
Speaker
He's really liking it, which I like. I i love because I know my mom. I was watching it. My mom loves The Last of Us, season one. She loves Pedro Pascal. She might be depressed. Can I watch it with your mom? I want to see her cry. She would just sit there sobbing. She will, and I want to see it.
01:12:58
Speaker
The way Ellie yells at Respectfully. Yeah. Because I think it's funny. My mother, newly 51 years old, right there was the other day. Happy belay birthday, mama.
01:13:09
Speaker
My mom watched episode one of the first season. Recently? Yeah. She's like, it's all right. I know Joel dies though. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, that's not fun. and Don't watch the show.
01:13:20
Speaker
It doesn't matter. that's That's the thing. That episode was so good. Yeah. Oh my God. the plane crashing. all that was so good. Yeah. Did she kill her friend in the mall, Ellie?
01:13:33
Speaker
Is that who the first person she killed is? But she becomes an infected, doesn't she? Isn't that why she kills her? Or am I making that up? No, I think she killed her before. Oh, she does? so She shoots her, right? Yeah, she asks her. She's like, please kill me.
01:13:45
Speaker
I couldn't remember. I was like, well I think that's the first person she kills. Yeah. yeah i pretty Talk about another girl having a great like start to her acting career. Oh, yeah. girls a Stormy Reed, right? Yeah, something like that.
01:13:57
Speaker
She's really good. But, yeah, I mean, we have a lot to look forward to. People who will play the games know that you we got to see some stuff that's upcoming. There's a scene with a lot of infected people.
01:14:08
Speaker
We know we get to see some fuck, what is Jeffrey Wright's character's name? I don't fucking know. Isaac. Isaac. Because then Eugene is we are eventually going to to see the whole Eugene stuff go down.
01:14:20
Speaker
I did like the change that Ellie is not with Dino. What do you mean? Well, in the marijuana like dating one? In Eugene's high down stuff. Yeah. But i'm I'm excited to see more of it. Well, they just cut that scene pretty much. Yeah. they It's just her and what's her name go? Josh? Josh?
01:14:38
Speaker
No. Well, I'm just saying. Jesus, what's his name?
01:14:45
Speaker
I don't remember, but cool guy. Yeah, but anything else you want to add about The Last of Us? It's definitely not Josh.
01:14:56
Speaker
don't know. don't remember. um Good show. I'm still semi-worried about how the action is going to be with Bella Ramsey. Did you see the scene of her training though? The behind the scenes? I mean i thought she can do it i think they they can do good stuff with it. But she is small. so yes Jessie.
01:15:15
Speaker
Josh. and Getting crunk off the Josh, baby. Okay. So you're nervous about the action? Yeah. I think that's yeah.
01:15:27
Speaker
There's a lot of wolves too. Yeah, that scene in the Milwaukee, and you're like, yeah, I fucking forgot. There's a lot of them. A lot of motherfuckers. They got armor. They got a striker with a 50 cal.
01:15:41
Speaker
Yeah, it's tough. It's difficult. maybe Maybe they'll have Tommy come to rescue Ellie. That's how he gets involved.
01:15:53
Speaker
Yeah, I think probably. That makes sense. Yeah, like he's going to show up for some there's no way they cut that out. Ghost of Seattle? They're not going to cut that? Dude, just ending people. Just violence.
01:16:05
Speaker
Pure. Like, people think, like, the scene with Joel in the hospital, which they did definitely tame a little bit in the game. In the show. They are not going to tame it. They said, Neil Drummond has said there's scenes in this that are darker and more violent than the game got.
01:16:19
Speaker
Oh, yeah. ah It has to be the Ghosts of Seattle stuff. It's got to be. That's going so cool. Dude, playing that as Abby, where you just run through the parking garage, you're like fuck. And he so he shoots around so the clickers come for you. You're like, god damn it, asshole.
01:16:31
Speaker
Oh, he's so good. That part of the game is so hard. That game's hard yeah from beginning to end. Harder than the first one. first one First one is really hard because you when you're first learning it.
01:16:43
Speaker
yeah Like the glass on the ground. Fuck, i would get so mad when I stepped on it. Yeah, but also I remember playing that part as Abby when you're tracking down the ghost of Seattle. And they're like described as like blonde guy, middle-aged ponytail. I'm like, fuck, is it Tommy? i don't want to kill Tommy. Stop chasing him.
01:17:02
Speaker
I have to play for the second game again before this all ends. I think I'll skip around. Probably just focus on the alley part. Maybe I'll play after the end of the season. then So then I'll finish the game maybe the next season. Yeah, maybe.
01:17:14
Speaker
Because there isn' a good they said there isn't as long of a gap this time in between seasons. Okay. So it's been two years since the other season came out? Yeah. I'm so excited. Like, I'm just excited for the rest of this.
01:17:25
Speaker
Yeah. And then... The rest of us.

Upcoming Releases and Industry Speculations

01:17:30
Speaker
Shut up. Nice. Well, we're moving on from The Last of Us, Ryan, what is your whole recommendation of the week? It's Severance. That's a good one. I'm not done with it yet. I definitely did when I met the dude For sure you did. You kind had to.
01:17:43
Speaker
But it's good. I'm going to recommend Sinners. Go check that. Go see it in theaters. It is so cool. Very good. Not indie. like ah Original idea of bwa blockbusters are in right now.
01:17:59
Speaker
Yeah. Someone said Dune was part of that. don't think Dune counts. don't know. Dune is a major IP in the book world. It's an 80-year-old book. Is it 80 years old?
01:18:11
Speaker
I assume it came out in the 60s, right? fuck That would be 60 years old. Yeah. 40s. Math's hard. I saw six in my head and I was like, it's 2020. Add 20 to that. 80. Bang.
01:18:23
Speaker
Not how math works. um But yeah, go check out Sinners. don't know. It's really good. I'm so down if they decide to do and another movie in this world.
01:18:35
Speaker
know i'll be down with the 90s version. Or I'm down to see them as just gangsters. Yeah. Or I saw somebody said do the vampire. Do like his backstory in Ireland.
01:18:46
Speaker
Hell yeah, dude. He's in Rogue Heroes, the SAS. I really want to watch that said unbelievable. I keep getting clips it. I put him on the never watched it. Yeah. I keep getting clips of it on YouTube shorts, which is just it's the biggest rabbit hole.
01:18:59
Speaker
YouTube shorts. Oh my God. People make funny YouTube two shorts. I go on there. I'm on there for an hour. Because I only I don't get like memes and stuff. really love people make Movies and gun stuff. That's all I see. That's all I get. And I'm like, hell yeah. I'll watch this for two hours.
01:19:11
Speaker
i was supposed homework. It's a clip that I've never seen. Yeah. I'm like, fuck. I'm falling down a rabbit hole again. Or something I have seen and I'm like, I could watch Generation Kill again. Let's do it. That's a good show. That was me last summer. I saw like one clip and I was like, hmm.
01:19:23
Speaker
I just watched that eight months ago. I can check it out again. a good show. need to do that. People gave it a lot of hate at first when first came out. It is a good show. People gave hate because it was very close to the time the war was happening. yeah but It's also slow. I'm sure.
01:19:37
Speaker
It's slower than what people are expecting. I'm also sure. I don't know. But I'm sure back then it was like it probably got marketed as like an action war show and it's just not at all. Yeah, it's not what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be like what actually happened. And that is what happened. There was like three gunfights.
01:19:53
Speaker
It's them waiting for something to happen. so good. The ending's so good. Them watching everything. theyll just go up and leave Yeah, and they all end up leaving. Yeah. But yeah, we finally made it back. We completed the episode.
01:20:07
Speaker
We're going to be back when we watch something. well probably It's going to end up probably being the last of us again because Ryan hasn't even seen the account one. and I just watched the other day again. Yeah. v seen the account right There's nothing else in the theater right now. we getting nothing any Any good movies out?
01:20:20
Speaker
I mean, Thunderbolts. so thunderbits Yeah, we've seen that Thursday. Oh, so I guess we're reviewing Thunderbolts. What time? 7.05. 7.05? Mm-hmm.
01:20:31
Speaker
Brother. You didn't tell me what time. You didn't ask. I didn't, but you didn't tell me. If you had said earlier in the day, could have. Wait.
01:20:42
Speaker
Mission Impossible comes out this month? This fucking month? The 22nd? been like No, there's way. That has to be next year. There's no way. There's no way. They they haven't put out like an actual trailer yet.
01:20:57
Speaker
is this? There's no fucking way Mission Impossible comes out.
01:21:04
Speaker
There's no way in hell. Mission Impossible opening day fan event. Oh, Until Dawn? I've heard nothing but dog shit about this movie. Good. You were excited for it.
01:21:16
Speaker
No, wasn't. The Legend of Ochi? I actually kind of want to see that. Oh! Now you do! We have not talked about this. Yes, have! No! Yes! No! We talked about the poster and I was so excited. i don't remember this.
01:21:29
Speaker
And Willem Dafoe was just playing a nut. Yeah, Mission Impossible IMAX. It's only playing that day. Yeah, it's an opening day event. It's like the early viewing of it. Dude, how fucking early? When's it actually come out? I'm going to look up.
01:21:41
Speaker
Because I'm looking...
01:21:45
Speaker
not June.
01:21:48
Speaker
It doesn't even come out. May 23rd. doesn't even come out in June. Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning, May 23rd, 2025.
01:21:56
Speaker
There's no... May 23rd. There's no showtimes. I guess, well, I guess, yeah, it's probably too early, maybe. Yeah, they're just probably showing the day one event. Yeah, May 22nd.
01:22:08
Speaker
What the fuck trailers have been? I know there's, like, a trailer. No, there's multiple trailers. have i just not There's been like three. fucking Don't talk to me about what I don't know. Don't patronize me. oh i'm You might not be excited for this. I am very excited for The Final Destination.
01:22:25
Speaker
I think those movies are so much fun. I'm sure it'll be fun. Oh, we got Clown the Cornfield. You and Connor are going have the best old time at that movie. I know. and i can't I

Podcast Plans and Audience Engagement

01:22:36
Speaker
can't say no. i've made I made you go see so many movies. Yeah.
01:22:40
Speaker
clown in a cornfield just made for you it is made for me isn't it fuck off hurry up tomorrow is gonna be the biggest piece of shit movie the year what's that that's the with the weekend jenna ortega barry keoghan oh yeah dog shit i'm excited for the the josh hartnett plane fighting movie did you see that like a wild action punch and shoot a movie on a plane it's like a bunch of ah assassins are on a plane pretty much bullet train but in a plane yeah hell yeah but i looked they showed like a clip it's really really good all right Sweet. There's no one in it that I could tell you any of their names except Josh Hartnett. That's fine. It's just Josh Hartnett. Josh Hartnett's that dude. used to play Batman.
01:23:17
Speaker
It's so funny. Oppenheimer came out and we were like everybody was like, oh yeah, I forgot about that guy. He just stopped acting. He's great. Yeah. He's so good in Oppenheimer. He's really as much as Trap was shit, i finally watched it.
01:23:30
Speaker
He is really good in it. It's not his fault. It's just a Shyamalan movie. Yeah, fuck it. He has a new one coming out, the dude who wrote The Notebook, The Book of It. The Book of It? Like the guy who wrote The Notebook. Oh, I thought the movie was called The Book of It. Nicholas Sparks, he writes like The Choice, Dear John, like all the soapy romance books. Yeah.
01:23:50
Speaker
He wrote a movie M. Night. It's going to so fucking shit. The twist is that he's gay. That's it. Yeah.
01:23:59
Speaker
Yeah. The girl builds a house for a guy this time. and He's like, i'm I'm sorry. I'm just not. you know i mean so I love the notebook. I'm a sucker. But yeah, we're back. We're doing this.
01:24:11
Speaker
We're back again. we have a schedule now. We do? Mondays. That's all. That's our schedule. Great. And I'll probably dude more. I'll do like solo ones that over are here in there. yeah But i'm good to work I'm going to try and do this.
01:24:23
Speaker
Have us do it every Monday. Every set Monday. Monday. Set. So do more episodes.
01:24:31
Speaker
Set in time. monday Mondays after 5 o'clock. Mondays after 5 o'clock. Post-mall Wednesdays. Beautiful. Who's calling you? Hello?

Conclusion and Farewell

01:24:45
Speaker
I'm doing the podcast. we went We end up going to the studio.
01:24:50
Speaker
Oh, sorry. i know. going eat it I get home. Put him on speaker. yeah you're on the podcast right now. Put him on speaker. You're not on speakerphone. We're at the end. I just wanted to answer the phone.
01:25:02
Speaker
I want to hear your thoughts on Joel getting stabbed in the neck. Put him on speaker so i can hear him. My dad said you don't do that to him. Do it. Oh, you're going to get put on speaker. What are your thoughts on the Joel scene?
01:25:16
Speaker
Devastating. I still wake up with a it feels like there's a ah piece of need
01:25:25
Speaker
That was terrible. I was not expecting that. Oh, it's so perfect. I've been waiting on it for three years. Yeah, me and Ryan have been waiting for everyone else to react. That was terrible.
01:25:37
Speaker
Terrible. All right, you get me off the phone. right. I'll talk to you when get home. Oh. Just hung up on you. Just hung up on me. Well, thank you guys for tuning in.
01:25:48
Speaker
Continue following TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. That's really it. Keep listening to the podcast. Uh, we're almost at, we're almost at 30,000 followers on Spotify.
01:26:00
Speaker
Whoa. It's pretty crazy. That's pretty good. Again, thank you for listening. Um, And yeah, Ryan, what you want to tell everyone before you let them leave? I'm glad I wasn't racist today. I'm glad it was actually. actually oh That's such a terrible thing to say. That would have been so bad if I was like, yeah, the Mexican girl from the show, she played Dora. That would have sucked so bad if I got that wrong. yeah was confident.
01:26:24
Speaker
But I wasn't 100%. Thank God. You're right. no Good job. It would have sucked so bad. Bye, everyone. Okay, that's it. I'd say you end on your joke.