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EPISODE 8: WEEK 3 RECAP
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We catch you up on week 3 and a little bit of week 2 (sorry for missing week 2) discussing the players who showed up or disappointed through the first 3 weeks of the season.
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00:00:00
Speaker
those going.
Introduction to NSFW Dynasty podcast
00:00:07
Speaker
Welcome to the non-stop fantasy weekly dynasty podcast. We are here with your hosts Dave Reed, Ryan Wilkinson and Joey Gallo.
00:00:26
Speaker
Well, commence an NSFW Dynasty podcast. Week three, boys. We may miss this last week. Work out on the way, so apologize for that. But we're going to make it up to you this week. I'm your host, Dave Reed, joined by my host, Joey Gallo and Ryan Wilkinson. But that's right. Three weeks from the books, boys. How are you feeling?
00:00:46
Speaker
feeling good, feeling better about this last week than week two, just from an overall enjoyment of fantasy production standpoint. So, you know, missing last week, not great, but I think we have a lot more to talk about this week. So ready to get into it. Yeah, same excited. Like Joe said, weeks two and three, definitely much more exciting from a fantasy's perspective than week one. So that's been great. And we got a lot to talk about today.
00:01:14
Speaker
That's right. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, the first couple of weeks, there was a, there wasn't a lot of performances to get excited about, but we three definitely brought the, uh, brought the bank, brought the boom, whatever you want to call it. But
Impact of Key Injuries on NFL Teams
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Speaker
before we really dive in, uh, to the overall discussion, want to just catch up on a couple of the, uh, some major injuries or transactions that happened in the first three weeks or that we missed, uh, that we didn't get to go over because we missed last week.
00:01:37
Speaker
Nick Chubb had a brutal injury. He's after the year, although apparently he only tore his MCL, which if you saw the video on Twitter, it was brutal. This guy's ACL must be the most indestructible ligament of all time. But he's definitely after the year, but hopefully that means his dynasty value and his career, which is more important, obviously.
00:02:00
Speaker
is not fully over yet. So definitely setting a wish to Nick Chubb, who's one of the most popular players. But with that, injury provided opportunity for Jerome Ford. This past week, he showed that he definitely can be a solid RB2. He wasn't overly efficient, but he got two touchdowns. They're definitely going to be leaning on him. He is definitely the number one in that backfield.
00:02:22
Speaker
Mike Williams, also suffered an injury this past week. He tore his ACL. He is down for the year. Keenan Allen already was wheels up. I think he had 20 targets this past week. I think he might be the wide receiver one in the year already. But this will create opportunities for Josh Palmer and Quinnen Johnson, the rookie. So those players who
00:02:45
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They definitely have different archetypes right now. Palmer has been around, has had this opportunity, has already shown it, but he definitely needs to be owned and probably started in Dynasty, QJ. This is his chance to start showing out, so we'll see what he can do. Camaker, so the Rams hated him so much that they literally traded him to the Vikings for the lowest possible draft asset that you could possibly give.
Cam Akers Trade Analysis
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It wasn't a 2024 pick.
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wasn't a 2025 pick. It was a 2026 pick. And it was like a last round swap. And you cannot trade picks beyond 2026 so far in the NFL. So literally, you couldn't give a lower value for cam acres. So Karen Williams, obviously, is going to get all the touches and has been in LA. But Madison has not looked great over the past caboose. We'll get into this more. But I think cam acres actually potentially has an opportunity to get back to relevance here.
Derek Carr's Injury and Fantasy Implications
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Derek Carr, I think he had an AC joint injury. He suffered in this past week. He's probably going to miss a couple of weeks, but that means it's James' time, boys. We love James. He typically airs it out last year when he got a chance, not as much, and he don't took over. When he's out there, he can really, really let it fly, and that is exactly what you want if you're a Chris Olave owner.
00:04:06
Speaker
a sashid owner too, because that's where those players thrive. So I just wanted to catch up on some of those major keys, but I don't know about Jeff, there's anything in your mind you wanted to bring up. Yeah, so thoughts. I mean, you never really want James Winston to be the quarterback of your actual football team, but for fantasy, he's always been great and he's always sustained great fantasy wide receivers. So from a Chris Olave standpoint and Michael Thomas and
00:04:36
Speaker
Pretty much everybody in that offense, even Alvin Kamara coming back. I'm excited to see, I mean, you know, it's tough to see Derek Cargill out. He was playing well, but I think Jamies will keep the offensive float. And yeah, interested to see, I know you mentioned the Mike Williams injury for LA.
00:04:59
Speaker
I'm most excited, I think, about Quentin Johnson. I think that his opportunity as the wide receiver three early season, he wasn't getting as many targets. He wasn't on the field as often. And I'm excited to see if he can step up. I feel like
00:05:17
Speaker
Josh Palmer hasn't exactly risen to the occasion over the last couple of years when Mike Williams has had his annual missed a couple of games due to injury. So maybe this will be the year for Palmer, but excited to see what what Quentin Johnson can do.
Evaluating NFL Team Performances
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Yeah, I mean, overall, it's tough, right? Like the thing that sticks out or maybe things that stick out the most to me, the Denver offense,
00:05:46
Speaker
It's a weird situation. As a Russ owner, I'm not quite sure how to feel. The offense hasn't been terrible. I've kind of liked, at least from a fantasy standpoint, what I've seen from Russ. He hasn't looked nearly as terrible as he looked last year, just from a quality of throw and accuracy perspective. There's scoring touchdowns. Marvin Mims looks like a,
00:06:14
Speaker
I mean, he looks like a breakout. If they would have him on the field more, we could know for sure. But, you know, they play the Bears this week and, you know,
00:06:27
Speaker
What it seems like is that Sean Payton is not a huge Russ fan, and maybe he ends up being the scapegoat for the fact that their defense can't stop the run. So who knows what the future for any of that Denver offense is going to look like. Obviously, as a Russ owner, I'm hoping they get the W this week.
00:06:55
Speaker
things kind of like Stan Pat for a while, but can't say I'm confident about that. And yeah, I mean, for Ross, I just want to throw out there. He feels better because he already has six touchdowns. It took him weeks eight last year to finally get the six touchdowns. So you definitely see an improvement there. Yeah, like they really they haven't looked the offense hasn't looked bad. I mean,
00:07:22
Speaker
I think 16 points. Week one was the lowest they scored. They put up points this week. What did they score this week? They scored. The opponent definitely put up points this week. I was going to say. I only put up points. 20 points. And I guess a third of that was just a punt return from MIMS. So yeah. It hasn't been.
00:07:49
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I don't think the offensive side of the ball is the problem. I mean, they got out to a lead last week against Washington, and then just couldn't stop. And he couldn't stop Bryan Robinson, couldn't stop anyone in the offense. And we saw this week that, you know, maybe Stan Howell isn't as good as that Denver defense made him look. So, I don't know. Bill D is legit too. So, TBD. TBD.
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Yeah, and I mean the one other thing I'll mention the Packers offense they they look like you know, maybe from a from a team perspective that I mean I know that the Advanced underlying metrics for Jordan Love aren't incredible and they've gotten fortunate They were definitely fortunate to come back and win last week after the the car injury, but
00:08:47
Speaker
From a fantasy standpoint, it looks like they're going to be a gift that continues to give. Jordan Love is passing the ball a ton. There are so many targets to go around that offense. And we haven't even seen what it would look like with Christian Watson out there. Aaron Jones hasn't been out there the last two weeks. So Packers offense, they look strong and they look like
00:09:17
Speaker
Potentially a division winner. I think Jordan Love is the number four fantasy quarterback on the seat. Yeah, so Those of us who those weapons back should be back Thursday against the Lions, which will be very interesting to watch Yeah, those of us who boldly predicted Jordan Love would be a top 10 fantasy quarterback Are feeling pretty good. Let's let's see if he can keep it going
00:09:41
Speaker
Yeah, and the opposite of that, those of us that predicted Daniel Jones would be a top three quarterback are not feeling so great. The only challenge I'll really add is the Giants. And I'd probably add the commanders in their two offenses. I was a little high on that. It seems like aren't going to be that great this year. Hopefully they can turn it around, but neither one has looked good. There was a lot of hype for Daniel Jones, Darren Waller.
00:10:10
Speaker
you know, Barkley missed last week, but, uh, it's been kind of a mess there. So we'll see if they can turn it around. To be fair to the Johns together this later, they've played two elite defenses. So I'm hoping things will turn around. Um, when they finally got a bad defense, it took out one half data Jones had a monster game in the half. So we'll say, um, but I don't feel comfortable. I'll say it, but I'm, uh, I'm hopeful things get better, but yeah, I know it's been rough, rough sliding.
00:10:41
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Yeah, for sure. But let's turn the vibes on first. So now that we've had three weeks down, and obviously two weeks that we get to dive a little bit more into on this pod,
00:10:53
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We finally, as I mentioned, in week three, had a lot of boom performances. So let's talk about some of the boom shaka laka performances that we've had so far. It's a little NBA Jam story up. So first, I want to hit upon some of the quarterbacks, the two that stick out to me, at least, that have been performing higher than what I think most people's ADP or draft value really was, or the rookie CJ Stroud, who
00:11:22
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week one didn't look that great, but the past two weeks had been awesome and he's airing it out and he does look like he belongs. And as Joe mentioned before, Jordan Love as well, who's over at the QB4. So those two guys I'm going on and as Joe mentioned, Love
00:11:38
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He has a he's been great fantasy his completion percentage though, which is the some of the underlying Stats is that I believe fifty three point four percent Which is atrocious the only quarterback worse than him at fifty two point four percent
00:11:54
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I think everyone could guess is Zach Wilson, the worst quarterback in the NFL. So that's not someone you want to just be edging out very, very closely. And his touchdown percentage, I think was above 11% before this past week. I think it's down to about 7.3%, which is still very, very high above the league average. So hard to stay that, but he also hasn't had Christian Watson at all or Aaron Jones. So who knows? Maybe he can just be a very efficient thrower.
00:12:22
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But what are your guys thoughts on those two quarterbacks? And if there's anyone else that you think we should be discussing. Yeah. I mean, like you said, both of those guys have looked great. Uh, the only other one I'll add, I mentioned him after week one, but you know, Baker Mayfield has been very serviceable. He didn't look great last week, but the first two weeks, you know, he had two 20 point games to start the season and he's only QB 17 on the year, but.
00:12:46
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You know, there was a lot of talk if he was even going to be a starter. So where you drafted him, I feel like you've already been returned with pretty good value. Yeah. And I'll just echo, um, obviously love, but I've liked what I've seen from, from CJ strat as well and the defense.
00:13:04
Speaker
isn't great. They're going to be in a lot of negative game script. And they have explosive weapons. I mean, we'll probably get into their explosive weapons at the wide receiver position pretty soon when we're talking about wide receiver booms. But there's certainly some upside with that whole offense.
00:13:29
Speaker
Yeah, you know, we'll jump, that's a good say. We'll jump to the wide receivers now. I mean, I don't think many people were super high on the Texas wide receiver core going into the season. I know Nico Collins was someone that was a sleeper, someone I personally liked as well. And he's showing up for sure. He's
Unexpected Strong Performances in NFL
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showing that he could potentially be an alpha.
00:13:49
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The player that C.J. Schrau told the organization to draft themselves in tanked L has also been showing up and had a massive game. He's a small, itty-bitty guy, but he gets open. The way the NFL has been changing, the smaller, fast guys who get separation are really thriving right now. Those two are really stepping up. Mike Evans, who
00:14:12
Speaker
I know Joe drafted and like many people were concerned with Baker, but Baker actually seems to be a much better fit for the style of player Mike Evans has been with the deep throws and Mike Evans has been crushing week after week. Keenan Allen I mentioned before, I think is wife receiver one already.
00:14:28
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And I don't think that's going to slow down anytime soon. Not as much a surprise that he's producing, but I think to the level that he's producing has been surprising on people. Another one is Adam Thielen, which many people have written off. He's very old.
00:14:43
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He's on a bad team with a rookie quarterback, but he's producing it now. I think Bryce Young might start this week, but Andy Dalton last week, obviously was just feeding him the ball the whole time. You got rookie Marvin Mims, who doesn't get a lot of playing time, but doesn't need a lot. He makes easily the most of his opportunities. With long touchdowns, I think he returned to touchdown last week.
00:15:06
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but also getting long receptions. And then from the Rams, no one really thought much of the Rams other than Cooper Cupp, and he hasn't played yet. But Pukunuku and Tutu Atwell just keep showing up. Pukunuku had, after that first week, we talked about potentially buying him. Good luck now. It's going to take so much to get this guy. He's on record break and stays pace and just is always open.
00:15:28
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and Tutu Atwell. Also, like another player who was written off is thriving as well. He should have scored multiple touchdowns last week to cash the first touchdown prop that Joey and I took. Very upset about that. But yeah, what are your thoughts on some of these wide receivers that we touched upon? Yeah, so Puca's one where obviously a little bit of a down week this week relative to the past couple for him.
00:15:57
Speaker
curious we're going into week four now um you know i know this is a dynasty podcast but what do you like what do you do with with puka and or tutu um in in a redraft format right now do you like it feels like to me uh
00:16:17
Speaker
They could be trade for targets. Maybe Puka could be a trade for target. If you're able to sell the owner on a little bit of down week and he's in Cooper, the Cooper Cup slot and.
00:16:30
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maybe back after just one more missed game. Do you think that they're tradeaways for that? Like the offense is a change once cup comes back. And I just don't know like if either like, I'm not sure who it is between the two whose value is going to take a hit, but I almost feel like this is the opportunity right now before week four, where you kind of like got to take some action. If you want to bet on one of those guys,
00:17:00
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either to be the one who retains value or be the one who loses value. And I'm just not sure which way I would lean.
00:17:07
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's the question, right? Puca is actually wide receiver seven on the season and two twos wide receiver 12, which is just crazy because, you know, before the season started, all the talk was Cooper cup. Um, I still question, you know, how healthy cup is. So even when he comes back, is he as effective as he's been in the past, especially when they have these guys producing now. Um, but yeah, I mean, it's a good question because if you're going to trade them and, and get top value,
00:17:37
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It probably would be right now. I can't imagine that either one of them moves up much higher than 7 and 12 on the year. What do you think, Dave?
Puka Nacua's Rising Star
00:17:47
Speaker
Well, I am a PUKA owner and redraft in actually multiple places. In the megalobole with the fantasy footballs, I actually drafted him, so I didn't have to beat him on waivers. And then in the redraft with Ryan that I'm in, I actually traded for him because another owner was stuck with roster limits. And I was able to get him for just Kenny Gainwell, which feels great now with seeing Swift blow up.
00:18:12
Speaker
which we'll get to, but I'm a believer in Puka. I think he's like, you don't, you don't just magically get like, what, like 35 targets in your first two weeks as a rookie without.
00:18:24
Speaker
being something special. So even when Cup comes back, I just don't see how they don't make him involved. I also think the Rams will probably operate in a lot of three wide receiver sets because Tyler Hibby sticks. And that's their tight end one. And he can still be in the field potentially with three wide receivers, but I just don't
00:18:46
Speaker
I don't see the default being them putting two tight ends out there. And one of these guys has to get off the field that often. And McVey is a wizard. He'll rotate these guys. Cooper Cub will play outside. He'll play in slot. Miku will do the same. Tutu seems like someone will probably always be on the outside just because of his speed.
00:19:06
Speaker
I would not be selling them low. I'm willing to trade anyone for the right value. But the other thing Ryan mentioned, I haven't heard a thing about Cooper Cup at all. I haven't heard him running routes looking good. Nothing. I don't think he's going to be after week four. I think it's extended.
00:19:27
Speaker
Yeah, you would at this point, if he was one more week away, you would start hearing that they're like practicing like you haven't heard anything from cup. So I'm like, I have him in one league. I'm just concerned. Like what, I think he will come back. I'm not concerned about him not playing, but again, like,
00:19:45
Speaker
They, you heard their dialogue earlier, like they kept me like a special consultant, like for his like, I have things like they are taking it very, very cautiously with him and they can do it now more seeing what these two wide receivers done. So I don't think Cooper cups coming back after four weeks. Um, and I, I think the team is really believing that even like this past week, it was a down week. He almost had a touchdown anyway. Um, and like every wide receiver one has
00:20:13
Speaker
down week. I think AJ Brown and CD Land's down week were far worse than this down week. So I'm not overly concerned with Niko. I would still be trying to buy on any owners who think that maybe his value is going to dissipate soon, but I don't think it's going to go out. Grant said he won't have the week one and week two performances that often once cups back, but I still think he's going to be a very strong asset. Yeah. And I mean, I guess now that I think about it right, he's
00:20:40
Speaker
He's probably tough to buy. Like I'm thinking if you're making a move with him right now, like if I was an owner, which unfortunately I'm not, I would love to be, I'd probably be dangling him out there trying to get, you know, a locked in wide receiver one or two, you know, like maybe offer him, you know, to the Devonta Smith owner, something like that. I would much rather have Devonta Smith the rest of season than Puca. And that just feels like,
00:21:07
Speaker
something that you might be able to get done off of a fresh week of A.J. Brown getting force fed the ball. So you're right. I mean, it's all assuming that Cooper Cup comes back and stays on the field. If he does, you would think the offense runs through him. But yeah. And I mean, you know, as far as other wide receivers,
00:21:31
Speaker
the Marvin Mims situation. I heard there was a little Russ hype piece on today. Maybe he's trying to encourage coaching to get Mims on the field a little bit more. But. Yeah, I love them, so I'd love to say that he said Russ said he has no ceiling, which one might interpret it as unlimited. Russ Wilson quote.
00:21:59
Speaker
Yeah, and it was good to see DeMar Chase getting back into the action. Finally. I mean, at the cost of T Higgins, it's interesting how those guys are seemingly kind of like passing back and forth productive weeks. We'll get the T Higgins, for sure. I know Dave was a little down on him this year, I think, right? Yeah, that was a big sell for me.
00:22:25
Speaker
Um, but yeah, and then the only other one I'd re-mention is Keenan Allen. He had 20 targets, 18 catches last week, which is just crazy. And now through a touchdown and Mike uses out, uh, you would imagine they're going to force you on the ball, but I looked it up. The record is 23 targets in a week. So 20 targets is pretty crazy. Was that, I'm going to guess Brandon Marshall. Do you happen to remember?
00:22:50
Speaker
Just remember, Brandon Marshall, you enforce the targets too, but we don't have to get into it. If you didn't have it. Um, but yeah, no, I think it's, I think it's wheels up for Keenan. Uh, as long as he stays healthy, that's always kind of been the rub on him. Yeah. You know what, Dave, it actually was Roddy white in 2010. Oh, wow. Okay. That's the name I haven't heard in a bit.
Running Backs Making Waves
00:23:16
Speaker
And yeah, so I mean, moving forward onto some of the running backs we had. We had some monster weeks over the past couple weeks. So we alluded to this with the Broncos game. The Dolphins smashed both Mostard and A. Chan. I think is how we pronounce his name now. Both had four touchdowns each. And I think Mostard had like 100 and, what, like 70 yards. And like A. Chan had over 200 yards. It was just like,
00:23:45
Speaker
video game numbers. A lot of people were starting most start. He is older. I think he's what, like 30, 31. But HN, I have him. I debated it, but I still, I was like, I had a feeling he was, this would be his breakout game and not like, I thought it would be like 80 yards and like a score. And I'd be like, all right, now I can use him using forward. Now I'm upset that I just missed the best game of his career, but
00:24:07
Speaker
They're very sad about him going forward. DeAndre Swift is just back from the dead. He is the undertaker meme, just over and over again. Did nothing week one, but the past two weeks has looked like an elite back. Behind that, Eagles, Philadelphia offensive line, just like
00:24:26
Speaker
shot out of the cannon every single run. It's crazy how he really like he's properly named and swift. And then another guy who just showed out as someone who you were not expecting to is Zach Moss is just like getting all the work. I think he gave 30 rushes last week and I.
00:24:42
Speaker
A lot of times he's like a plotter. He had a reception for a touchdown that was very impressive. He jumped up over the defender to catch him, which I was like, that's not Zach Moss. He can't do that. But it was very impressive. So that's a guy that honestly may have been on waivers to start the year, and now is looking like a potential top 20 back as long as Jonathan Taylor is out. So those are just some of the names that came to mind. If you guys have any thoughts on those players or other players you wanted to talk about,
00:25:11
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, Zach Moss has been an absolute steal if you drafted him. People were drafting Dion Jackson over him and Dion Jackson's gone now. So he's averaging 20 points a game over the last two weeks. He looks like the back. You know, Jonathan Taylor is another one. You know, is he coming back? I don't I don't know. I haven't heard anything. It doesn't seem like he may be back anytime soon. So
00:25:37
Speaker
If Zach Moss gets a full season, he looks like he's going to be a real steal. And then Dandre Swift, you know, he's looked incredible. He's always had those games where he's looked really good and then, you know, kind of had up and down seasons. So we'll see if it lasts. You know, they do have gain well there too, but right now he looks like the guy and he's another one who, you know, wasn't drafted very high. So if you have him, he's another definite steal at this point.
00:26:04
Speaker
And then Miami, I mean, what can you say about Miami? That whole team has just looked unbelievable. Like you said, putting up video game numbers. So the fastest, fastest man alive. I saw a stat where all three of like the fastest guys on the field this season were on Miami. It was, you know, it was just insane how quick they are.
00:26:29
Speaker
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. They have some additional depth pieces too at the running back position who haven't been out there once their full running back room. I think Jeff Wilson Junior and who's the fourth? There's one other. You know, it'll be interesting to see after.
00:26:50
Speaker
8-10, I keep wanting to say 4-10. Maybe that'll be his official, I guess, nickname, Devon 4-10. After his blow-up this week, if, you know, that will kind of solidify his role in the offense moving forward or he'll need, you know, injury to Mostert.
00:27:12
Speaker
Yeah, most of those get injured. But yeah, I agree. Yeah, Wilson will see that if he comes back, that's his injuries a little ominous. And then one other guy I wanted to mention was just an interesting one is right now is Kenneth Walker, just because, you know, he was such a
00:27:36
Speaker
He was a scary proposition during draft season for both dynasty and redraft with Zach Charbonnet on board. And Charbonnet's involvement in the offense, his snap percentage has actually been going up steadily week one, week two, week three. But Kenneth Walker has looked good. He's scoring. He gets quite a bit of carries inside.
00:28:06
Speaker
Uh, the red zone. So, you know, maybe it's an opportunity to try and look to capitalize, um, and get some value for him. But, uh, as of right now, you know, it's, he's looked strong and it feels like, uh, one of those situations where we should have just known based on how good he was last year and how usually takes rookies a little bit to get ramped up in the offense. Um,
00:28:36
Speaker
that Zach Charbonnet wasn't just going to come in and establish himself from day one as a 50-50 timeshare. If Charbonnet ever were to get injured or whatnot, then Kenneth Walker, you're looking at a top two or three running back for the duration of the season.
00:28:59
Speaker
Yeah, it was a poor draft pick by me. Not looking great right now. But Shelburne, I do, as you mentioned, is getting more carries, more snaps, more touches inside the five, like within the five yards of the end zone. So who knows how it shapes up going forward, but I think it's undeniable. Ken Walker, based somewhere, he was getting drafted. He's going to get the job done. And obviously, last year, he took some time to get ramped up, and that had all the work.
00:29:29
Speaker
Maybe same thing happens to Shaw, where he just needs to get worked up. But I can't see Ken Walker going away completely. So yeah, that's a good call out. And then last one for tight ends. There's usually not a lot of booms in tight end. But my god, we got one out of a rookie, which Sam Laporta, he is on a record-setting pace for a rookie tight end.
Rookie Tight End Sensation
00:29:50
Speaker
I think he's already a top. I would consider him already a top five tight end, probably the rest of the year, the way he's performing, the way the offense is usually. He has been a stud.
00:29:59
Speaker
week in and week out, but let's see what you got. How, how enamored you both are. Yeah. I mean, I actually drafted him in our redraft league in a late round, um, hoping that, you know, he would do something, but like you said, he's breaking records. He looks great. Um, they're using them heavily in that offense and there aren't a ton of tight ends out there. Uh, and even some of the top tight ends we've seen not do so great this year. So, uh, he's looking great.
00:30:28
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, 11 targets for any tight end is impressive. And for a rookie who's only playing his third career game, the offense, obviously Jared Goff is able to support multiple pass catchers. And yeah, I mean, I would, you know, there's a small, a select group of tight ends who I would rather have over Laporte of the rest of the season. It's probably Hawkinson.
00:30:58
Speaker
Kelsey, maybe Andrews. And that's probably it. That's probably it. I think I have to take a quarter next. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it's like I said, top five. And he looks the part outside. It's like it's not like he's just getting lucky or getting like end zone target. Like he looks legitimate on the field and breaking away from the center. Yeah, and I just want.
00:31:27
Speaker
While we're on the subject of rookie tight ends, just like a five second vent, because I think that this is how Alton Kincaid would otherwise look if Josh Allen would stop throwing the ball to Dawson Knox. And I just don't fucking understand why you would
00:31:49
Speaker
draft Dalton Kincaid just to continue to throw the ball to Dawson Knox nine times a game and not that Dawson Knox is terrible, but I just Kincaid looks great every time he gets the ball. He's fast. He's athletic and I just I feel like I
00:32:09
Speaker
Yeah, you know, like at a certain point this season, something will happen where he'll have the opportunity to be unleashed and then we'll kind of wonder why it wasn't happening right from day one. But yeah, that's just bitter old me who owns Dalton Kincaid in about 16 leagues and
00:32:29
Speaker
Oh, and Samuel Borda in zero. I do think Kincaid will come on more and more as the year progresses, but it does seem like NOCS is going to be involved somewhat throughout the year.
00:32:44
Speaker
I also think, I'm not overly concerned about Kincaid. I think it's just things because Laporta exists, and he's a rookie. This doesn't happen when a rookie tight ends out of the gate. Kincaid's not doing anything wrong. And honestly, if you're realistic, realistic expectations where Kincaid wasn't going to do that much out of the gate. But when you see another rookie being like, yo, what? He's doing it. Why don't we do it over here? We see it's a proof of concept. Let's make it happen. So it's things a little bit more. Yeah.
00:33:13
Speaker
And it's like, he's kind of the same, like every time they throw the ball to Knox, I'm like, wait, is that King Kade? No, it's Knox again.
00:33:24
Speaker
You know, I just don't know why they have to have like two of the exact same guy out there. They look the same, yeah. It's like the same exact guy. Except Kincaid is faster and more athletic and doesn't drop the ball as frequently, so. They'll make an adjustment. Yeah. While we're in the boom section, I have to say I feel like the rookie class
00:33:44
Speaker
in terms of contributing right out of the gate has been pretty boom this year.
Rookie Class Impact on Fantasy Football
00:33:52
Speaker
Maybe I don't pay attention as much in years past, but I feel like there's a lot of rookies that you can instantly throw in your lineup, even in redraft formats, which I feel is pretty rare.
00:34:03
Speaker
Yeah, they usually take, honestly, a few more weeks to start showing up, especially for the wide receivers and definitely the tight ends. Quarterbacks almost never. But this year, we've seen a lot of early season performances. Obviously, the long seasons, there's going to be more ups and downs. But last year, you saw a lot of rookie wide receivers step up as well. Rookie running backs usually do pretty well. I think there's always at least two in the top 24 almost every single year.
00:34:31
Speaker
Um, but it's, it's funny that a lot of the rookie wide receivers who pull up last year, so far to date, their situation hasn't been greater. They haven't had like those bloke games yet that we're seeing out of current rookie. So still a long season. Uh, but yeah, to Ron J. This is pretty shocking to see as many rookie, like even we didn't mention it's a flowers to another rookie. Like.
00:34:55
Speaker
He's been a target machine. He didn't have as many yards past a couple of weeks, but he looks unbelievable in the field. He looks like the real deal. So a lot of these rookies are showing out early. Yeah. But with a good, must come to bad. So we're going to move to the busted section. So yeah, there's been some players that
00:35:21
Speaker
We got to have a real conversation about some of the quarterbacks.
Quarterback Struggles Discussion
00:35:25
Speaker
This was a, I think we mentioned as a sell in the week one episode. It has not gotten better for Justin Fields.
00:35:34
Speaker
He just doesn't look like a quarterback quarterback. I'm sure he'll still be good for fantasy as long as he's playing, but I don't think he's going to be the bearish quarterback after this year, potentially. Burrow has been bad. He does have a bit of an excuse. He's like his calf, he's re-injured it. He's not as mobile, but you are concerned because you don't know when you're going to get like fully healthy burrow going forward, which
00:36:01
Speaker
does impact the overall team as well. And I'll even say, Trevor Lawrence says stats wise for fantasy hasn't been as great. I'm not as concerned personally for Trevor Lawrence. He's had a lot of touchdowns missed by inches. I think week two, I think he had three or four catches where really the guy caught the ball and then stepped out of bounds with one of his feet. So that game could have been completely different. And we wouldn't be having this conversation if they just kept their feet inside.
00:36:31
Speaker
Amy, this past week is a similar story. So I'm not as concerned. With that being said, the Jags as a whole haven't looked as great. So I think he can prove there. But guy called out. He's definitely disappointed for three weeks. But I'm not as concerned as I am, say, for Justin Fields, who I think everyone's concerned about him. But where are you guys at with the quarterback bust so far?
00:36:56
Speaker
Yeah, it's tough to borrow injury. Assuming it's the injury, right? It looks like it's the injury. He looks uncomfortable. You could almost just tell like from the first throw of the first week, we kind of mentioned this on the last pod, it just like
00:37:10
Speaker
he hasn't looked healthy all season at any point in the season. It seemed like last week, maybe a little bit in the first couple quarters, but then he re-injured. I almost would just prefer he go on IR, to be totally honest, at this point as an owner in a couple leagues and obviously as a DeMar Chase owner in this league. I'd rather just have him miss four weeks and know that when he comes back, we're having a reasonable likelihood of
00:37:41
Speaker
you know, full strength burrow versus, you know, putting him out there and sending his weapons out there every week with like a 50 50 shot that they put up like a major dut, you know, so I, you know, T Higgins, uh, I was playing against him in two leagues last week and he catches two touchdowns. Then he comes back this week and, uh, you know, almost gooses and, um,
00:38:07
Speaker
you know, Jamar Chase hasn't didn't really do much of anything the first two weeks. This week, this past week, he catches, you know, double digit passes. So I think that the whole offense is going to continue to stink until borrows 100%. And I think borrows not going to be 100%.
00:38:24
Speaker
until he gives his calf enough time to recover. So what are we doing here? Are we just going to hang out until he aggravates it so much that he can't play and then he's forced to miss four games on IR? Or is that going to happen voluntarily? It's probably going to be the former because he's a gamer and he doesn't want to voluntarily miss games if he can be out there. But from a fantasy perspective, I don't necessarily know that I see things turning around with the Cincinnati offense.
00:38:54
Speaker
Anytime soon. So that's a concern. Yeah, for sure. Got to let Obero's calf rest, grow up, and turn into that cow. Yeah. And the Jags, I'm not going to say that I think Trevor Lawrence looks bad. I think that Trevor Lawrence looks like the perfectly mid-average quarterback that he is.
00:39:22
Speaker
I was waiting for this part of the podcast. I knew it was coming. He hasn't looked bad. He's looked, he's looked just about what he is, which is a guy that can make good throws. And I will agree, right? Like it was a Jones stepping out of bounds barely two different times in week two or week one. And then, you know, last week. But, you know, when you're not able to, you know, like when you're getting,
00:39:52
Speaker
you're ass kicked by the Texans. That's not necessarily ideal. So I think I will say the Texans defenses, the new head coaches brought rounding up pieces there, but still not a good look. I'm not going to make an excuse for them there. You know, I think they need to. But again, right, like everybody was kind of expecting that
00:40:13
Speaker
All of these quarterbacks would take this big leap going from last year to this year. We've kind of seen it happen quite a bit with guys like, you know, Jalen Hurts and whatnot. And, you know, I just don't think there's that much leaping going on at the moment, but it's a long season. A lot of time left. It's a long season. And like I said, I don't think Trevor Lawrence has looked bad.
00:40:39
Speaker
You know, he hasn't killed you, he hasn't cracked your team, but he's just hasn't been like a top, you know, like a QB one, like you kind of hope that he'll be.
00:40:52
Speaker
Yeah, I think Trevor Lawrence has time to turn it around. I don't know if I would be super concerned there. Right out of the gate, he obviously hasn't looked as good as you were hoping where you drafted him. But his situation, I feel like he can turn it around. Burrow, like Joe said, it just really seems like the injury.
00:41:11
Speaker
If he can get healthy, then I think you get Joe Burrow back. The one time or home for me is Justin Fields. He just doesn't look good. I've seen a lot of buy low articles on him, but I'm just not buying it.
00:41:27
Speaker
have a starting job in two years, you know, I don't know. So if you have him in dynasty, he's still serviceable this year. He's scored over 10 points all three weeks, but as a real life quarterback at some point, they're going to have to win games and he's just not getting it done. So I can't imagine he's the quarterback for too much longer. Yeah. Yeah. So he's the second worst quarterback, I think right now in the NFL. Yeah.
00:41:54
Speaker
Zach Wilson obviously is the worst. But he's not worthy of this discussion. Desmond Ritter would like a word, too. Obviously, who would you rather have in your actual NFL team, Desmond Ritter or Justin Fields? Because I don't know if I'd want Fields over Ritter on my actual team. I would definitely, definitely rather have Fields. Ritter
00:42:16
Speaker
He won games in spite of him. They have a pretty good defense. They have a great rushing attack. They have what seems to be competent coaching, although who really knows. Every single week I watch him on red zone and he is just
00:42:36
Speaker
missing. That means he's in the red zone.
Wide Receivers Falling Short
00:42:40
Speaker
He makes at least three throws a week that make me want to absolutely puke. He's an atrocious quarterback. I'll tell you when he saw fields in red zone, it was a turnover or defensive score.
00:42:59
Speaker
Listen, I am not here to pump out Ritter. I think he stinks as well. It's more to rip downfield. That's a good point. Ritter doesn't look great.
00:43:09
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I don't think many people expected it from him, though. But with these bad quarterbacks, a lot of their weapons have suffered as well. So other wide receivers in the busted section, Joe mentioned T Higgins in the one good game week two with a couple touchdowns. But that was sandwiched around two games with eight targets and almost nothing to show for it. And we won nothing in week two. I think you have like three points or something.
00:43:36
Speaker
I think he has like maybe 12 overall points. He hasn't been getting it done, definitely getting frustrated there. For the Bears, DJ Moore, we'll get to a lot of Bears weapons in this section, but DJ Moore, he saved it with like a garbage time touchdown.
00:43:57
Speaker
I would be not excited to have DJ more of a team right now. I think he'll be fine. Silver Spool in a deep league or art format where you're starting three flex on top of two wide receivers, but I would not want him to be a key piece. That's John Dotson. Like Joe and I have been talking on the side, like we love Dotson.
00:44:20
Speaker
what are the commanders doing with dots in there? Like they're just not utilizing them right. You're seeing like Kurt Samuel doing like routes down the field and those should be dots and routes. He's always getting open and they're just using them the wrong way. JSN, I don't know what's going on with JSN right now. His snaps are going down. He's at like 44% this past week.
00:44:42
Speaker
Bobo, or whatever the guy's name, had 41% of snaps and scored a touchdown. So like, I don't know why you're not utilizing JSN more. Bateman, I don't think he's much of a surprise. I was out on him going into this year, but I think he's starting to solidify his fact as someone who's just never going to be a thing in the NFL. But those are some of the key, key buffs that I've been noticing in the wide receiver group. But I don't know if you guys have other thoughts on these players.
00:45:10
Speaker
I'll just jump in on Dotson because he's been probably the biggest letdown. That's what I was going to say. Twelve points through three weeks. Yeah. Last year, over the course of the season, averaged 15 yards per reception and going down this going down in the weeks had long, long reception of 30, 20, 25, 60, 30, 30, 40, 24.
00:45:39
Speaker
Whereas this year, I think his long reception on the year is 18 yards. He's averaging eight yards a reception. He's got 16 total targets on the season. Meanwhile, Curtis Samuel and Diami Brown have 16 total targets on the season as well. So not only are they not using him the same way that they used him last year, not using him the way that he was used in the preseason,
00:46:08
Speaker
Uh, but like you said, right guys like Curtis Samuel and Diami Brown are out there getting targets that should be going to Datsun as well. Right? Like Curtis Samuel has been in the year for, been in the league for like seven years. And, uh, you know, like he is fine. He's, he's an average receiver, but you know, like
00:46:30
Speaker
I just, but he's an average receiver. Like I just, Datsun is elite. What are you doing? I think that there are brighter days ahead for Datsun. And I say that because things are going to change quite a bit with this offense as the year kind of progresses, right? Like things happen, right? Like injuries happen.
00:46:55
Speaker
the thing about Curtis Samuel, not saying that I'm banking on a Curtis Samuel injury. I hope he doesn't get injured, but he's, he's an injury prone guy. I actually think that I'm Brown didn't even play week three. So there's possibility there. And then Sam, how, uh, had a tough week last week against Buffalo and, you know,
00:47:19
Speaker
Who's to say that we don't end up seeing Jacobi Brissett out there? And who's to say that Jacobi Brissett doesn't hyper target Johan Dotson? I don't know if it's a scheme thing. I don't know if it's Eric B. Enemy's offense. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I'm not cutting Dotson in any league, in any redraft. Absolutely. And he might, if you can go and pick him up for pennies on the dollar.
00:47:45
Speaker
I personally would still be interested in stashing him. If somebody drops him, pick him up. It's perplexing for me to see what's happening with him. It's unfortunate.
00:48:02
Speaker
Hopefully, they'll get fixed. I'm glad you mentioned Sam Howell, because we haven't really talked about him. But I feel like he also deserved to be mentioned in the disappointment section. A little expectation for Howell outside of today.
00:48:18
Speaker
I was excited. But yeah, I don't know if it's so much a usage thing for Datsun as it is just an overall offense thing where Howell hasn't looked good. So like you said, maybe there's a quarterback change in the future and things turn around for him. I think long-term he's still a good player to have, but definitely hasn't lived up to the hype that he had coming into week one.
Running Back Concerns
00:48:44
Speaker
Yeah. And then moving down to, uh, some running backs, uh, I'm surprised to see this one on, but the past two weeks have not been great. Uh, Bruce Hall, like I just, the jets are just a mess. I think that's just really what it comes down to. Um, but he hasn't been getting the usage you're wanting and he hasn't had, he needs to have breakaway run basically. And if he doesn't get those, it seems like he's going to have a bad day right now. And the offense as a whole and the jazz and the organization is just a disaster. So kind of want to stay away from there.
00:49:14
Speaker
Uh, obviously we didn't talk about Garrett Wilson in the previous section, but I think that, that goes without saying, um, until Trevor Simeon starts playing quarterback. I don't think you're going to get much going on in the, in the Jess offense. Um, Najee Harris might be the least efficient runner of all time. Um, I saw us that, uh, during the last game and.
00:49:35
Speaker
At first, I was like, is this the whole team stat, or is this the knowledge stat? But his name was associated in it. At the time, I think it was like 184 yards below expectation on the year. We're three weeks in. How is that even possible to have that blow? He's always getting attacked behind the line. And probably sort of as a similar stat line to that is Derek Henry. And I know Joe, I think, was mentioning this is something to get out on. This might be the year Derek Henry ends.
00:50:01
Speaker
I'm definitely concerned. It's the first time we're seeing another running back in the Tennessee like get more snaps than Henry in games and it's in a rookie and Henry has not been looking great on the field. He's getting tackled behind the line and he's Joe. I'll let him get more into it before but
00:50:21
Speaker
style rod he needs to like pick up some speed if he's getting tacked behind the line like you're not going to get much done but- and one other one who wasn't as high of expectation but Kaleel Herbert just to really pound on the bears-
00:50:36
Speaker
is he doesn't look bad to me, but they're just not giving him the ball. I don't know if he's had like double digit carries a game yet, but he was someone that started getting a little bit of hype as the season started. And it's just not there right now. But yeah, those are some of the major call outs that have caught my eye in the bus section. But I don't know if there's others that are kitchen runners or other ones you want to kind of
00:50:59
Speaker
Elaborate I know Joe you probably have something to say about Derek Henry potentially nausea. Yeah, I mean with Henry part of it too is the They're not a very good team, Tennessee
00:51:11
Speaker
So they're not really in a position to give him the 20 or 25 carries a game that he's been getting historically. And he seems to be a little bit slower. And he's only on the field for 50% of snaps. He's not really catching passes. Yeah, it seems like a bad situation. And yeah, Dave mentioned he was a self from me early in the season and in redraft.
00:51:41
Speaker
I mean, a dynasty to, you know, like if I could get anything usable, I would probably look to cut bait, you know, sooner than later. But, you know, not to say that he's not going to have games this season where he produces. He certainly will. But I think that his days as a as an RB one are probably in the rear view. One other guy that I'll mention, Damien Pierce has been pretty rough from
00:52:11
Speaker
Uh, a yards per carry perspective, 10, uh, Houston's offensive line kind of stinks, which was the, which was the issue for, um, CJ Stratton in week one. And I actually think maybe I won't say they stink. I think they've had a number of injuries on their offensive line. So when you have cluster injuries and you have the second and third string guys playing on the O line, then it's, it's kind of tough, but they've been a little better. They've been in, I mean, CJ's just kind of been running around a lot more.
00:52:39
Speaker
uh, Damien Pierce, I mean, two yards of carry last week, 2.2 yards of carry this week. Um, so, I mean, he, he hit the waiver wire in a 10 team league that I'm in. I actually ended up picking him up.
00:52:54
Speaker
for 30 or 30 or 45 in another one of my leagues. But that's just how people are feeling about Damien Pierce right now. He's going to keep getting the opportunities. And the opportunities are what matters, right? So he's averaging like 14 or 15 rushes and three targets a game, which obviously at the running back position, that's not something you should be dropping.
00:53:21
Speaker
He's been disappointing and seems to be more of an offensive line issue than anything else.
00:53:28
Speaker
Yeah, I think I saw this stat. I forgot the exact numbers, but the gist was it might've been week two. He had, I think 34 or 35 something yards after contact on the game, but he finished the game with like 31 yards. So that means he was almost ever carry contact behind the line of scrimmage, which is just insane. So yeah, it's definitely an offensive line.
00:53:56
Speaker
He's a talented player. I think most people see that, but like his situation is rough and it doesn't look like he's going to get better for the next four weeks based on the schedule. No. And he's only out there for 50% of snaps too. Devin Singletary is getting run because the team's losing and they need to have a pass catcher out on the field. So it's just, uh,
00:54:15
Speaker
I think it was a concern we aired. Yeah. And I mean, in addition, right? Yeah. I mean, like you said, I'm not sure their upcoming schedule is Pittsburgh this week, then Atlanta, then New Orleans, Atlanta and New Orleans are both good run defenses and then a bar. So, you know, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not, I, I, I added him in the league where he was dropped, but I'm not rushing to put him in my starting lineup. That's for sure. So.
00:54:43
Speaker
Yeah. And a lot of those guys, you know, are just on bad teams, which I feel like really kills value. Um, but two other guys, I'll mention Alexander Madison and cam acres who are now on the same team. You know, Madison was supposed to be the guy with Devin cook, leave in town. He's had huge fumble issues, struggled heavily. The first two games, um, got lucky last week. He fumbled like three times that got called.
00:55:08
Speaker
Yeah, he just can't hold on to the ball. I don't know what happened, but fantasy-wise, he's had the volume to still be serviceable, but in comes Cam Acres now to presumably kill that volume. And then, yeah, Cam Acres was supposed to have a resurgence on the Rams, looked amazing to finish out last year.
00:55:29
Speaker
I was honestly a little high on him, but after week two, he was shipped off to another team. So we'll see what he does on the Vikings. But overall, right now, I would say both of their values are just way down to where they were before the season started.
00:55:47
Speaker
Yep, and moving down to the tight ends again, not a lot of tight ends that we had super high expectations
Kyle Pitts: Fantasy Disappointment
00:55:53
Speaker
for. One that I think a lot of people had some reservations going through this year. McAlpitt's kind of really just hitting on the notes that we were worried about in this offense. But the main reason I want to call him out is, and this is just more of the insanity of what goes on in the thousands of offense.
00:56:10
Speaker
But I believe Jono Smith has like the same percentage of targets or same number of targets as Calpits. Jono Smith, why is he so involved in taking targets away from Drake, London? I think he has like 17 targets and pits at 17 targets or something very close to that. It's absolutely insane. I did pick him up because if they're going to use him like that, why not grab him in Titan Premium?
00:56:35
Speaker
the Falcons offense is going to throw fits for a lot of fantasy players for a long time. So Arthur Smith is no longer the coach there. But another one that has disappointed a bit, I'm not as concerned yet, but Darren Waller, you was drafted as a top five tight end. We just mentioned earlier,
00:56:54
Speaker
I think people would rather have Sam LaPorta over Dan Waller, which seems like a crazy statement three weeks ago. But this is the world we are now living in. And I know, Ryan, this was someone that you were calling as well. So I wanted to hear some of your thoughts. Yeah, I mean, he's tight end nine on the season. So I wouldn't say it's super horrible. But like you said, he was drafted as the tight end, usually like four, sometimes even three off the board. So definitely been a disappointment so far.
00:57:23
Speaker
Giants have played some tough defenses. So if that offense overall can turn it around a bit, then his value might go up. But where you drafted him, it hasn't been great. Yeah. And then before we move into our final session with a league update, any other surprises or notes from the past couple of weeks that you guys wanted to call out? Joe, if there's anything in your mind. Yeah.
00:57:52
Speaker
team that we didn't talk about at all, really are the Cardinals. And they've actually looked pretty good. Frisky, I think is the right word, right there. Yeah, they're a frisky team. They're, first of all, James Connor looks great. And yes, he's got a ton of bursts for somebody who's been in the league for a while and who I thought maybe his best years are behind him. And
00:58:20
Speaker
They're clearly trying to win games. They were very, very, they played a strong first half against the Giants, almost beat the Giants. They kicked Alice's ass last week. They were calibrating. Jonathan Gannon is like the most cringe-worthy guy.
00:58:37
Speaker
the team's playing hard for him. And it's good to see as somebody who has kind of been hoping for Kyler to get back out there. Now, that being said, I don't know when Kyler will actually get back out there. It seems like they're planning on taking it slow with him. And it might not be a situation where he comes off the pump and then is immediately right out there. In fact, some of the things that we're hearing seem to indicate that he might actually
00:59:04
Speaker
take get a couple weeks to ramp up before he gets back out there. But for guys like Connor and Hollywood Brown and Zach Hertz and who you thought maybe would be, you know, useless from a fantasy perspective this year. You know, Joshua Dobbs has been a functional quarterback.
00:59:26
Speaker
And they're playing hard, and they're definitely not in tank mode. So I think that they're an interesting team, and some of their guys will continue to be interesting for fantasy, at least in the near term. Do you think the Jets traded for Dobbs? Do you think they wish they did that? I don't know what the Jets want. I think so. I think that part of the Jets' hesitation to add another quarterback right now is that they still feel committed to Rogers.
00:59:56
Speaker
And if they go out and trade for Kirk cousins or if they like they have to they have to bring in some low level like non
01:00:07
Speaker
challenging schmuck like Trevor Simeon, Trevor Simeon is like the perfect example of a guy who's nearly as terrible as Zach Wilson, but he's like somebody who they can just like happily kick to the curb next year when Rogers is ready to come back, right? Like if they trade for cousins and then they make a playoff run, now they got a problem on their hands.
01:00:29
Speaker
Maybe the same thing with Josh Dobbs, to be totally honest. If Josh Dobbs was the Jets. No, you can Dobbs is constantly kicking the team. I mean, he's playing significantly better quarterback right now than Zach Wilson.
01:00:44
Speaker
I think that's probably, you know, like they really have to strike the balance between, I know they want to compete this year, but they also want, uh, they also gave Aaron Rogers money. They want him to be their quarterback next year, once he's healthy. So I don't know. It's a, it's a tough spot. If you ask me, I'm not really sure what I would do, but it's, it's not going well. I don't envy Robert Salah right now. Yeah. What about you, Ryan?
01:01:11
Speaker
Yeah, one guy we haven't mentioned who I thought has at least exceeded expectations is Jacoby Myers. He's looked pretty good. He missed a game. But when he has been out there, you know, he had two touchdowns in week one, I think, and he's had 12 targets, I think last week. So he's looked really good when he's been out there.
01:01:32
Speaker
You know, Jimmy G's been feeding him the ball. Obviously Adams is the top guy there, but as the number two, he's looked pretty serviceable and definitely someone you could use on your team. Yeah, no, I love that call, uh, Myers. He's, uh, he's definitely a key piece of that offense there. Um, I think honestly could be a serviceable wide receiver to most weeks. So I think that is someone who provides a lot of value based on where he was typically drafted, whether it be dynasty or redraft.
01:02:02
Speaker
Couple other items for me that just want to call out, I know I mentioned Kyron, he's getting all the work. I personally don't think he's been super efficient on it, and this past week he definitely wasn't, but he's been getting the touchdowns. But something to just keep an eye on, I personally view him as a sell just because I think his value, I don't think his value can get higher is a better way to say it. I don't think he's going to bottom out, but I think his value is like super high right now.
01:02:27
Speaker
Joe hurts, I don't really know if this is actionable, but something to keep it on He just hasn't looked like Jalen hurts in games this the box scores and the fantasy stats have been fine But when you watch him playing especially like throwing the ball like most of the time the
01:02:42
Speaker
doesn't look like he did last year. So I don't know if it's like the offensive scheme and he's not comfortable in it yet, but something just seems off there. The main thing for him is that Swift and whoever else has the ball love going down on the one yard line and then, you know, Hertz just sneaks it in from one out every, every time. That's four touchdowns like that already.
01:03:03
Speaker
That's the part of the contract when they sign there is like you have to go down the one so we can do now. I think they renamed it to the brotherly shove, not the push to push anymore. But yeah, I mean, those touchdowns are why the fantasy owners are not feeling the pain yet on on hurts. But like when you watch the game, like those touchdowns are keeping him afloat. And yeah, you expect that's part of the game, but it just doesn't feel like an elite quarterback through three weeks based on his play.
01:03:33
Speaker
Um, journal, we kind of talked about, I'm very, I think he's at a pivotal point. I think this upcoming game will, uh, with his all his weapons will, uh, kind of let you know maybe what direction he's going to go in.
01:03:45
Speaker
And a couple of less owned guys who I, they happen to be on my team, so this is not a pump up for my team, I promise. But Zeke, he got 16 carries last week. And Ramandre got only 20, and the snap percentage are shifting a little bit there. Something to keep an eye on, but I do think this might become more of a time share than originally
01:04:11
Speaker
believe. I still am a Ramadre guy too, so I want to just say that I have Ramadre in a lot of other leagues. But I have a little concern because he hasn't looked that great yet, and I think that's been opening the door for Zeke. So something to monitor there, maybe. I think Zeke is a very cheap guy you can throw on your bench in either dynasty. You could easily trade. You could probably trade like a
01:04:32
Speaker
third round pick for him and like it could be someone that you wouldn't buy a week scum, you can probably be okay. And Gallup, finally this past week looked like potentially the fully healthy Gallup that we've been wanting for the Cowboys. So it was only one week, but something to keep an eye on. He was great two years ago, took a long time to recover, but he did get the bag. Dallas believed in him. So something to just also keep an eye on with Michael Gallup.
01:05:00
Speaker
Yeah, moving on from that. I don't know if you guys had any thoughts on some of those players. I know I was going to. The only reason I wouldn't sell Kyron Williams right now is because there's nobody else on that team who's getting running back snaps. I mean, like he really is the whole show and their schedule is not particularly challenging.
01:05:23
Speaker
next couple of games, uh, Colts, Eagles, Cardinals, Steelers, Cowboys, Packers. I mean, there's obviously Dallas isn't great, but, um, those are beatable defenses. And then after the buy Seattle, Arizona, again, you know, like, I think that there's as long as he's out there getting a hundred percent of the running back snaps and he's getting, you know, five to 10 targets a game, then I think he'll,
01:05:53
Speaker
He'll find his way to probably a top 15 fantasy season at worst. Yeah. And again, like that's why I made sure my phrasing was.
01:06:04
Speaker
careful that I don't think he's going to be a bad right back going forward. I just think right now a lot of people are viewing him potentially as a top 10. And that's where like, if you can cash in and get someone who's like, much more solidified, I would do that. I don't know if you're going to have that opportunity later this season. Yeah, specifically in Dynasty too. Like I could be persuaded I have him on a Dynasty team. I could be persuaded to sell him in Dynasty.
01:06:31
Speaker
a lot quicker or easier than I could be persuaded to sell the main redraft. Exactly. Especially, because you don't know what's going to happen next year at all. So that's why I would just see what you could potentially get for him.
01:06:47
Speaker
But yeah, with that, gonna give a quick update on our personal league, as I mentioned in previous podcasts, this is originated from our own dynasty league that we're all members on, the nonstop fantasy weekly dynasty league that we host on sleeper. So I wanna give an update, cause in our league, the first three weeks and the last three weeks, you play your division mates. We have three divisions in the 12 team league.
01:07:13
Speaker
And the winner of each division gets an automatic top three seed in our playoffs. So winning your division is crucial to your success in this league. So now that we're through three weeks, you're kind of starting to see where some of the divisions are.
01:07:29
Speaker
falling right now, and not only did you get a win, but you made sure division made kind of a loss. So going through the first division, which we have named the team-mandated male masseuses, because Deshaun Watson is in this division here. In the top spot, we got Croup at 2 and 1. I'm in second at 2 and 1. And then we got Harry DaCosta at 1 and 2. And Scott Rapazotti at 1 and 2, who did beat me this past week to get his first win.
01:07:57
Speaker
Krogh definitely looking like one of the top teams there, so a little concerned about him and taking the title in our division. Division two, we got Schluter in the top spot at two and one, Adam Cohen at two and one, Joey Bottles getting his first win at one and two against our co-host Ryan Wilkinson and his bro Sean.
01:08:19
Speaker
who are also at one or two. So there's a little point differential there separating them. I think about 18 or so points, but definitely a tight group. Adam and Schluter are definitely duking that, but I wouldn't rule out a Joey.
01:08:34
Speaker
Yeah. And honestly, Ryan showed some definitely punching power there. He's got a lot of volatility in his team, but he can definitely play with the best of them. So that'll be an interesting division to kind of see how that works out. And then division three, you got
01:08:52
Speaker
Dan Rosinski, not really mad. It's Dan Rosinski's team at 3-0, the only undefeated team. You got John Clark and Saucier, his brother-in-law. I think that's how you say that, his last name. Caffer, Mike Williams. So, sorry, John Clark's at 2-1. Caffer, Mike Williams at 1-2. And then Canelo's at 0-3, which is a bit of a disappointment that we have so far.
01:09:17
Speaker
but I think most of us thought Dan's team was probably the strongest one for the current season. So I don't think anyone's shocked to see that three and up finish there. And also one thing I just want to give a quick update before we
01:09:33
Speaker
get our panel here to get some updates on what they, how they think the, the league, uh, is developing so far. Uh, Rhydog's here still has the lowest score in the year at 63.14. So he's holding on to that. He'll be.
01:09:49
Speaker
Funding the toilet bowl and crope came back after losing it actually to the Wilkins and brothers in week two the high score crope came back and retook it with a score of 177.22 so crope is current our leader for the high score of the year and Ryan and Sean are the leader for the low I miss and I'll say I Narrowly miss being the lowest score this past week by about six points. I was
01:10:14
Speaker
It's beatable. That's all we wanted to see. It's possible. If bye week's coming up, it should hopefully be beaten. We were disappointed that Krope stole the high from us, but his team is definitely looking very unbeatable like we kind of thought it would be at the beginning.
01:10:35
Speaker
Yeah. But with that, these are like, are there any teams, uh, from either of you that you're in through three weeks that you're surprised either that
Current Fantasy League Standings
01:10:43
Speaker
are performing better than expectations or worse than expectations? So for me, I actually would just say division three as a whole has kind of been a surprise to me, except for Dan's team. I had him high, but, uh, Clark it up. I had lower in my rankings. I'm surprised to see that they're two on one and they have 390 points for, so it's not like.
01:11:05
Speaker
You know, they've just gotten lucky with some of the wins. And then Mike Dexter as a God, the mics actually was higher on them. I thought they would have a pretty good team and they do have 369 points, but they're one and two. So that division has surprised me a bit. And, you know, you mentioned Kanellis being 0-3, a bit of a surprise. Otherwise, the other divisions I would say have gone kind of how I thought they would. So not as surprised with those.
01:11:37
Speaker
Yeah, sticking on Division 3, so it's interesting how Team Rizinski coming into the year, it was guys like it was the like the running back room of Jonathan Taylor, Nick Chubb, Derek Henry, Austin Eckler.
01:11:54
Speaker
who kind of had everybody saying or projecting that team. I mean, in addition to having some pretty strong receivers, right? It was mostly the running backs. And then Chubb went down. Jonathan Taylor hasn't played a snap. Echler has been out the last two weeks. Derek Henry's kind of been trash. And it's Tua and Mostert who are coming in and
01:12:21
Speaker
kind of propelling that team to their 3-0 start. So it'll be interesting to see. I think that team...
01:12:27
Speaker
Like we kind of said earlier, Mostert has a bit of an injury history. Henry is not trending in the best direction. And we'll see what happens with Jonathan Taylor and obviously Chubb's loss for the season. So it's a strong start, and it's still a very strong team. When you have two and golf as your quarterbacks in a two-team league, it seems like both of those guys, if healthy, are going to put up great numbers all year. He's in a good position, or they're in a good position.
01:12:55
Speaker
I would probably give the nod right now in terms of strongest team to Crop across the board. I've liked what I've seen across all the positions from his team. And one of the things that we mentioned about Crop's team in the preseason was depth, guys that he had on his bench who he could throw in there. Like Ryan and I were talking
01:13:16
Speaker
before we hit record about how depth is a real challenge in this league because we're starting so many guys because it's 12 teams, because it's dynasty format. And if you look at Crope's bench, he's still got a ton of guys that he could spot start in there for points. Komet, Higby, Sky Moore, Calvin Austin, Elijah Moore, Van Jefferson, Curtis Samuel, we talked about earlier. Jarek McKinnon scored last week. Roshan Johnson's been actually the better running back.
01:13:45
Speaker
in Chicago. So and these are all guys that are not in his starting lineup right now. So I think that the depth might end up being the difference for Crobes team. However,
01:13:59
Speaker
He also has Justin Fields and no backup quarterback on the bench. So if Fields ends up getting benched or strapped to a rocket and sent to the moon, then we'll see what happens. He's going to have to leverage that depth in his super flex spot. And then maybe that will be what enables some of the other guys in Division 1, 2 to catch up to him. So as far as our division, I think it's still anyone's game.
01:14:30
Speaker
I'm not ready to rule out Team Wilk, although losing Mike Williams was tough. It's like I said, it's the annual Mike Williams injury. It sucks this year that it's the season ending. He was looking great. But again, you know, Mike Williams was looking great before he got injured. You could probably say that about like five years of his career.
01:14:48
Speaker
Um, and you know, with Hertz and Josh Allen at quarterbacks, those two guys alone, I think could, uh, carry you guys to contention. So I think that we've, uh, I think that it's still anyone's game and it's been happy to be on the board with the win and, uh, hope to keep it going this week against a very beat up team. That just beat me. I don't think there's more team that's beat up to my team right now. Uh,
01:15:18
Speaker
God, I am searching deep. I'm probably going to start my floor tie down in one week. But you do what you got to do, right? Surviving events. But with that, I guess, looking ahead before we close things out to week four, are there any specific games or storylines or trends that you guys are keeping an eye on looking ahead at next week's games?
Preview of Bills vs Dolphins Game
01:15:43
Speaker
I mean, I think the highlight game has got to be the bills, dolphins, um, two solid offenses. Can't wait to see not only who wins that, but how high scoring that game is. I feel like, uh, it could get out of hand, but you know, the bills do have a decent defense. So I don't expect 70 points from the dolphins, but it'll be interesting to see if they can keep it going. I think the over-under right now is at 54. So that is juicy. Can't wait to have some players and they fire up everyone. Yeah.
01:16:13
Speaker
And on the opposite end of the spectrum, the Bears Broncos, you know, pooper bowl. I'm not even totally sure that that's not going to be a supremely entertaining game, right? Like, I mean, they have everything to play for both of those squads, right? Like they're going to be both be like all out trying to get that win. They know that what's at stake and
01:16:38
Speaker
They both have below average defenses. So that might that might be a really entertaining game And I'll mention Thursday. I actually I'm pretty excited. We have a a strong Thursday night game With the Lions and the Packers hopefully it it lives up it'll be exciting to see and I I Think the Lions will get a win in Lambeau
01:17:07
Speaker
Yeah, I'm very excited. This is a great Thursday night game. And especially if Watson and Jones are back too, it'll be, I think there'll be a lot of potential options to start in there. Other games for me, I mean, the Ravens, we didn't talk a ton about the Ravens, but they just have it look that great. Even though they're sitting at two and one. So kind of seeing if they can.
01:17:31
Speaker
get that offense clicking a little bit better. But this week is a tough one for because they're playing the Browns and these games always are like super low scoring and the Browns defense looks legit. So kind of seeing how those two teams clash. I think the overrunners are like 40 or so points on that in that game. The Jags for me because they're just
01:17:51
Speaker
I'm very invested in Trevor Lawrence, so I just want to see if they can start getting things going around. I think Trevor Lawrence is above mid-level quarterback there, but we definitely need to start seeing it. I'm also kind of excited for the Giants to not play an elite defense on Monday night. So see what this team can actually do when Damon Jones is in running for his life for the entire game. And also just another call out for
01:18:22
Speaker
Another battle of 0 and 3 teams. The Vikings and the Panthers. The Vikings sitting at 0 and 3, I'm sure, is a shock to that organization. And I think Justin Jefferson might get 300 yards to make up for it. So I don't think that'll be a fun game to watch from. It'll go wire to wire, but I think it'll be a fun game to watch just for stats. But yeah, so those are some of the things I'm keeping an eye on. Yeah, and just noticing now, actually, as I'm looking at my notes that
01:18:52
Speaker
Jacksonville Atlanta is our first overseas game of the season. So just keep that in mind. It's more than nine thirty nine thirty a.m. Atlanta at Jackson Jacks are always overseas. We'll play the next two games actually the next two weeks in London. Great. This week this week against Atlanta next week against Buffalo.
01:19:15
Speaker
Well, I got to look up some stats on how he does overseas. Maybe it's better. It's the thing that turns the tide. They are, by far, the most popular team in England. So maybe, just maybe. They're the franchise they want to move over there. I mean, no one likes Jacksonville. I don't know who anyone who lives there. Anyway, but that is our show. So I want to thank, again, everyone for listening.
01:19:43
Speaker
Good luck in your week four. And honestly, if you're on three, I am in a redraft. Don't give up. It's a long season. You can turn it around. Hopefully, what we say or advice we provide helps you. But thank you for listening. I appreciate it, guys. Thank you for listening to another episode of the NSFW Dynasty podcast. Tune in next time.