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Episode 140: "House of The Dragon" S2 episodes 1-2 Review
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This week on the show the boys do their review of the first 2 episodes of the new season of “House of The Dragon”! This episode was a lot of fun and the boys had a blast recording it! We hope you all enjoy it and we will talk to you later!!
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Introduction and Overview
00:00:00
Speaker
so Welcome back everyone to the Popcorn Podcast. I'm Tommy Cressa. There's my host, Ryan Fran, as he's sitting outside for this week's episode. And in this episode, we'll be talking about the first two episodes of HBO's House of the Dragon Season 2. And yeah, but before we get into that episode, me and Ryan are filming back-to-back episodes if you couldn't tell.
Sports Talk: Stanley Cup and Football
00:00:19
Speaker
And, yeah, but Ryan, how you been since for the last episode? Since the last episode, I've been pretty good. I saw a green alien sing that song a couple of times. I sent it to you. You didn't really like it, but I thought it was funny. And then what? We checked the Stanley Cup score. It's tied 1-1. It's 642 left in the first. Go, Edmonton. Connor McDavid, baby. Yeah, he deserves it. Definitely. Fuck Florida teams in hockey. I hate that. Fuck Florida teams in general.
00:00:49
Speaker
No, buccaneers are cool. The books were cool when Tom Brady was on them. Nah, Baker Mayfield. I would Baker Mayfield. All right. Well, yeah, Baker Mayfield last year was a lot of fun to watch. But other than that. You're a Giants fan. I want to hear anything about your football day takes. You know what I can tell you about my football takes? Your jerseys are ass. I can tell you four things specifically.
00:01:13
Speaker
You weren't alive. You weren't alive. You weren't alive. You weren't
Excitement for House of the Dragon S2
00:01:17
Speaker
alive. Yes, I was. Oh, you were alive for these two. Yes. You weren't alive for these two. I wasn't. But neither of us were alive for 1980 World Series, and we both claimed that. So shut the fuck up. Damn touche. But yeah, we are back for House of the Dragon. And yeah, it's been nearly two years since House of the Dragon debuted, and I couldn't be happier to be back in Westeros. And I'm just so excited to be able to see these characters again, people that I've loved for these for that first season that I've been dying and dying and dying to see more of. So now to be able to say that we've got two episodes now is pretty cool. And I know that Ryan, you're a huge fan of season one as much as I am. Yeah. And yeah. So.
00:02:06
Speaker
My initial thoughts. The deck across the street from me, not across the street, but like back to back from me. There's a woman and a very small child sitting on there now, so I'm very nervous. I got to watch my mouth a little bit. Yeah, just don't say the word you'd like to associate to the show.
Humor and Beverage Comparisons
00:02:21
Speaker
That being said, I did bring wine for this episode, so I got to get in the spirit. I brought my wine. This is wine. Yeah, if you told me this, I would have recorded from my house. I would have had a brewski. I don't know what brewski you're speaking of, Thomas. This is wine. You're on video. Everyone sees what you're drinking. Nobody watching our fucking videos. Nobody watches our fucking videos. That is true. This is mead. It's mead. This is brewed from fucking Heron Hall.
House of the Dragon Ep. 1 Discussion
00:03:00
Speaker
They make shitty beer. Who would make the best beer in Westeros, do you think? King of Miami? Ravosi shit would be crazy.
00:03:08
Speaker
ah horrible I don't know. I feel like King's Landing has some banging wine. Cause the only one it's Dornish wine is the best. And then the only other like alcohol people talk about is the, um, the wildlings, like, um, curdled, madam not curdled, but like aspired ghost goat milk. They drink out of that horn. Fermented. That's what I meant to say. for men There's like the only two alcohols I can make alcohol. I know that same. I just couldn't think of the word. Damn, I kind of want wine right now. Damn. Shit. But oh well yeah, we are back in, as I said, the world wrestlers and we get to see pretty much the effects of what happened in the finale of season one. And we see that Queen Rene is still at this point in shambles with the loss of her son. And we're pretty much seeing how they're going to respond to this. And man, did they respond in a
00:04:08
Speaker
Very, very harsh way. Yep. Well, we didn't talk about episode one either. That is episode one. What's the end? Yeah, that is episode one. I kind of thought. Never mind, you're doing a great job. I'm still kind of daydreaming about what what um what what what kingdom would make the best beer in Westeros. I'm leaning Storm's End right now. Because I think the Riverlands could do a decent job. Winterfell. Winterfell can make a good one. I don't know, i I think they could do a decent job, but it'd be one of those beers that's only good when it's cold, when it's like freezing cold, you know what I mean? No, never had a beer like that. You've never had a beer that gets a little bit warm and you're like, ech.
00:04:53
Speaker
Well, any warm beer is not good. Yeah, but there's beers you can drink at like warm temperature and be like, this isn't good, but I can drink it. You know, and not room temperature, not room temperature, but like you get it out of the out of the case for the beer store and you're like, ah this isn't cold yet, but I can still drink it. No, you know, no, I don't do that. I put mine in the fridge and like it called now. Yeah, whatever. But Riverlands could be decent. um The veil would make a horrible shit. ah I feel like the veil would have some banging wine. No, the veil would have like. um The veil would make like gin or some bullshit.
00:05:36
Speaker
I feel like Winterfell would make like a good whiskey. They just seem like whiskey people.
00:05:41
Speaker
No, that sounds like vodka, people. I just get they just need to warm up. I feel like the Riverlands is good whiskey. And we're done talking about something about their fucking alcohol. We need to get into the actual episode. What am I what am I thinking of? Where do the um where do the Tyros live? I'm blanking on what that's called. I don't remember because they they could probably make a good. They can make a good beer, but it would be a light beer for sure.
00:06:10
Speaker
All right, we start season two with Venera's son, just as he flies north to Winterfell to meet Craig and Stark, which was really cool to finally get to see him on screen. And of course, they're on the wall. And we see that, of course, we get the winners coming. And he's starting to explain to just Sarah's Craig and ah what is north of the wall and what the fighters are actually up there
Character Analysis: Aegon II
00:06:33
Speaker
for, because they're not just there to stop the cold and some wildling and some creatures. He's like, there's more out there. Yeah. And It's going to take about 300 years for you to find out to exactly how bad of a situation 200. I thought it was like 295 or something like that. Maybe it's 195. I forget that. I think it's too I could be wrong, too. But yeah, it's a great day. Craig and pretty much says that he'll fight with him in the war. But again, there's no really time to be happy about this because Aemond Targaryen has murdered just our brother, Luceris. Is that how you say it, Luceris?
00:07:11
Speaker
Yes, sir ah you 200 and it was really sad to see just just there's finally find the news that his brother had died. And then back at Dragonstone, we learned that Vernier is still in mourning and Damon, of course, being Damon Targaryen, being that dude, who's kind of crazy, still wants to seek immediate revenge. The idea of an ad. I think the first episode really started out strong, I thought, I think. First of all, the second the episode opens, I knew immediately by that violin coming in that we were in Winterfell. And I got so fucking excited. I pumped my fist immediately. Because I was wondering the whole time, like, I wonder when we're going to winter, when we're going to go to Winterfell. Because I knew we were going to. I knew we were going to meet Craig and Starik. I knew, obviously, that's where Jessaris was going. So we had to get there at some point. But to start the season off there, I think i think that that was just to all the viewers of like, all right,
00:08:08
Speaker
We know you want it. We'll just go now. You're welcome. um And I was thankful. But my my first thought when I saw you, Saris was like, damn, that that dragon ride must have taken a while because that dude got big. He definitely grew like. Oh, no, he he aged on that dragon. rock Yeah, absolutely. Like he wasn't like the young child actor. Obviously, Luceres was definitely younger than him. But he still grew considerable length. Like he got that kid got tall. Not so much big, but he's still young, so I'll give him a pass on that. um But yeah, seeing Craig and Stark was cool. I think he was he was good looking as a Stark. I don't think he was too bad. I think the wig was very noticeable. I don't i don't know why, just his wig. it If it wasn't a wig, then I stand corrected, and I don't know what I was thinking. But for whatever reason, his hair, Craigins, I was like, that's a wig. there's no like There's no way that's not a wig. That doesn't look great.
00:09:06
Speaker
um But yeah, it was really cool seeing Winterfell again, um even though it was just like a sweeping shot over the top. was No idea what my grandfather just sent me. um It was really cool seeing the wall again and seeing him talk about Winter and you know saying Winter's coming and what that really means. um And yeah, just saying I was finding out the news was was pretty sad. Obviously, you don't see him hear it, but you know what's happening. You see that look of concern. You know it it hit him pretty hard. ah You know, a you know, as soon as Craig and looks up from the the paper, what would happen? Yeah. Going from there, we go to, as I said, Damon, what's the secret revenge? ah We go back to King's Landing. And just like you were saying, it was so cool to see Winterfell again. It's been, what, twenty eighteen? Five years, six years, like so six years since we've seen it.
00:10:00
Speaker
I guess. But yeah, so it was really cool. Yeah. And of course, just seeing when even King's Landing again, like just being back in the world arrest Westeros brings me so much joy because it really is such an interesting world. A great show that a great spinoff show, which we don't get that often. So, yeah, was I was very excited to be back on the show. But. In this episode, we get to go back to King's Landing and we get to see Aegon II and we get to see the entire ah what do they call his table, his council? The council. Yeah. And we see he brings his son. Jaehaerys, Jaehaerys, Jaehaerys. I'm pretty sure it was Jaehaerys. Jaehaerys, Jaehaerys, Jaehaerys. Jaehaerys. And during that meeting, the one Lannister, he's pretty much fucking with them. Jaehaerys just keeps taking this globe off the table. And it's pretty funny. But yeah, we get to see. Is that Jason or Tyland Lannister? I think it's Jason. Or maybe it's Tyland. For you.
00:11:00
Speaker
I don't remember. Well, it's the same guy who plays both of them. So it's not going to be very helpful to look up the cast. But no, I'm just looking up. I'm just looking up the line. It's just going to be the same actor. What the fuck? Forget it might be Highland. But either the way, that dude, he he does a really good job playing the characters. No, the Baratheons and the Stormlands, the Lancer. Yeah. really wrong um I forget his name, but he's done a good a good job of playing both of them. Obviously, we've seen more of whichever one's on the council because that's the one that tried to propose to Reneira back in season one when she was still like 14 at the feast or the the hunt, whatever it was.
00:11:40
Speaker
Yeah, but we have seen the other brother, too, and they're very different characters. So he's done a very good job of doing that. Also, also playing, I believe it was Sir Hugh of the Vale in Game of Thrones season one. So he's, you know, he's been in both of them. He's really he's had his way around Westeros. Do you remember in season one, the first tournament or the the hat? Yeah, the ho not the hound. The mountain is jousting with that random knight and it kills him. Yeah, that's him. Oh, shit. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Oh, I want to give someone you want to bail. I want to give it up Tom Glinkarnia a shout out. He plays Aegon
Character and Storyline Critique
00:12:19
Speaker
the second. This kid's about to do exactly what Millie Alcock did in season one. He's about to just take over because not in season one, he just pretty much just acting like being a i mean good actor, not taking away anything. Episode two, that man
00:12:34
Speaker
That dude's good. That dude can act. I agree with you, but I will say. In episode one, I was thinking like, oh, you know, he's he's a good actor, but he doesn't quite have that like presence. You know what I mean? Like he's not intimidating and obvious, but I after watching episode two, I think like I've realized more that the character is not supposed to be intimidating in like the classic way that Damon is intimidating. He's more supposed to be. not the smartest and acts very rashly, um but we'll just fuck you up if he if he's mad. But I think when he shines is the scenes, ah we'll talk about it later, but the scene with him, Kristen, and Otto in season two? Yeah, that's the scene I'm talking about. That was his best scene so far in these first two episodes. I i have think season i think episode two, he had more to do.
00:13:26
Speaker
Acting wise, because he definitely has to show off more more range. But that that I think he can. I mean, he can act because I mean, in a room of two guys that we know can act, he still shines above both of them. Yeah, and recently I think. Oh, sorry. Just one last point. I think. If he's doing it on purpose of like his more kingly parts, not quite having like a presence, as much of a presence as other characters, like, do you know what I mean, my presence? Like, he just does not... He doesn't have that, like, quality. Yeah, he doesn't have that, like, inherent charisma where you're like, oh, I want to listen to this guy. He kind of sounds like a child. Yeah, but that's the whole point, I think. Yeah, but that that's what I'm saying. Like, if he's doing that on purpose, he's doing a fantastic job, I just can't really tell if he is or not. Either way, it's working, though, because the scenes, like we just said, the scenes when it's more, like, quiet and he's just talking to one or two people, he's been fantastic. Yeah, and so, I mean...
00:14:23
Speaker
Yeah, shout out to him. I really liked his performance so far. And I i think he's going to he's going to have a huge part in the seasoning, of course. But, um, and trying to think what else we got. Yeah, we get this pretty much they get the first council meeting. Then what happens? You go through the episode right now. Yeah, now I'm trying to like pull up episodes. So because I I'm not going to lie, I didn't write notes while I was watching this. I like two notes yeah like my intro. I did. That was a note. That was it. Um, yeah, I'll be honest. are yeah I remember episode two better than episode one, not just cause I liked it better, but also cause I, I honestly kind of thought episode one was a little bit on the boring side. Like it felt very much like a welcome back episode. Like it was super duper slow. Not very much was happening. Renira said one word.
00:15:17
Speaker
But that, I mean, that makes sense. She did lose her son. Well, I, well, yeah, no, I mean, that makes sense. But at the same time, I wanted more from the first episode, especially if this season is going to be eight episodes instead of 10. Yeah. got it You gotta, you gotta get everything you need to into each episode. So I don't know. I'm kind of curious how they're going to space everything out because it's. It's kind of felt like some scenes are taking their time too much, and others are rushing along a little too much. It feels like there's less pacing. The pacing's not as good as season one, at least so far in these first two episodes. So I'm wondering if that's something to do with losing a guy like Miguel Sapochnik dropping out. And they you know it's all on Ryan Connell's shoulders now, in which I think Ryan Connell could do a fantastic job. He seems like a really good guy, and he he knows his shit. Loves Game of Thrones, obviously. but Yeah, I mean, I so i like-
00:16:12
Speaker
Don't take away from the show. I still like it. Miguel Smiley was the guy from Game of Thrones that was like, this is, he directed all of the best episodes, all of everybody's favorite episodes for the most part. Miguel Smiley directed. He was the guy who made the best shit on Game of Thrones. Why did he leave? I think it was just creative. Like it wasn't I think it was like a peaceful like he just didn't want to come back. He wanted to do other shit. I don't think it was anything bad. Yeah, i just one. We do get to see Lars Strong for the first time back, that weasel who I mean, he's a weasel. Every time he shows up on screen, I get kind of excited to see what happens. Yeah, we learned that he's murdered several people from his staff because he found the one trustworthy and talking to Allison. um Then.
00:16:56
Speaker
Oh, yeah, we get the whole scene on when Aegon's taking people's pleas from the throne, which I thought was so funny.
Game of Thrones Universe Analysis
00:17:03
Speaker
Yeah. When he's like, oh, we'll we'll give you a ghost back. And I was like, we can't we can't just give the man his ghost back. He's like, why not do one thing? We got to do it for everybody. And he's like, you know, God damn it. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's what I like about again, because he's definitely I think they talk about it. They talk about in the beginning of the thing. He's his rule is nothing happens. Mm hmm. Like that whole timeline, he he does he doesn't know how to be a king. He was thrust into this one. He shouldn't even been the king. He didn't want to be king. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. These first two episodes made me, I was fully team black going into the season, of course. and after that After that last episode, the end of the season one, like the ah end of episode one, what they happened, man, it made me go back to right in the middle. I was like, oh, I don't want to side with this. I'm still, I mean,
00:17:55
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's it's it was my thing going into this season of like, I am team black, but team green is more fun to watch. I'm still on that side. It's so much more fun to watch. um Yeah, it's it's tough to be team black right now. But I think the saving grace of team black is that it wasn't team black. It was just one player. You know what I mean? That is true. Like it wasn't it wasn't the team, it was just somebody went off and did their own shit. And the coach is like, who the fuck was that? And he's like, I scored. And he's like, yeah, but we wanted them to get the ball, you know what I'm saying? It's like when Todd, remember when Todd Gurley scored a touchdown on accident? Yeah. And the who I think it was the Colts came back and won the game. That's what just happened. Damon scored a touchdown and Renier is like, you should have taken a knee at the one, you dipshit. He's like, all right, sorry, my bad.
00:18:49
Speaker
It's very cool that killed someone. Yeah, well, sorry, a little bit different. But I do. I do kind of agree with what you're saying. Episode one was definitely slow and kind of just getting you back into the world. But at the same time, those do happen and premieres even in Game of Thrones. We've seen it in numerous seasons of Game of Thrones and just other shows that kind of like follow this kind of idea. But To me, at the end, it picked up and led to a huge scene, which I was waiting for from the novella, which they did change up a little bit. If you want to know more about that, go check out, go read a little description of the novella. You'll know why it's different. But I still think they did it as best as they could with the way that, the way they set the timelines and ages and all that kind of stuff.
00:19:35
Speaker
But yeah, no way that they they do the story. Obviously, it's not it's not mushroom talking to us the entire time. So you can't really do it exactly the same. You have to actually show us. Yeah. and And there's other characters. And there's other characters that aren't there yet because of the time. Yeah, I did like that. they well I mean, we'll get to it later. But when they mentioned the other high tower sun, I was like, oh, there we go. Oh, more to do. But trying to think of what anything, I'm trying to make sure I don't miss anything big. Yeah. Oh, sorry. ah We call them seasons. Um, episode one was kind of ah like I said, like it was, it was a lot of getting back into it, like seeing these characters again. And Renira was grieving the entire episode. So she, you know, that's obviously important for her to do, but it also means that she doesn't have much to do in the grand scheme of the story.
00:20:28
Speaker
um It's more so Damon and Jaehaerys, not Jaehaerys.
Comparisons to Game of Thrones
00:20:35
Speaker
Jesus Christ, I hate these names. Jaehaerys and are the same person, but you're a good buddy. I meant like my pronunciation. ah housing Continue. Just call them Jack because everybody calls them Jack. We're just calling them Jack from now on. Jack and Luke, that's it. My cousin's name, it counts. um
00:20:58
Speaker
But yeah, the episode was was more so about Damon and Jack and the greens, obviously. It was mostly about the greens because the blacks were just grieving and very sad the whole time until the end with Damon. But it wasn't a bad episode, but it's just the only reason I'm so critical and worried about the pacing of that first episode is because this season is eight episodes. It's not ten. Yeah, that's no, I only worry. I thought it was nine. I think it's eight because I looked it up and I definitely that's like a huge difference. I must have forgot that they probably announced and I just forgot. ah But. Well, while you're looking that up, I just wanted to say something and they kind of bring it up in the second. episode I thought about it when it happened. Queen Helena. Why is she not have security right with her? Well, they talk about it in the second episode. least Yeah, but they don't they don't really explain why because.
00:21:53
Speaker
Kristen was where he's supposed to be not doing what he's supposed to be doing But he where he was where he was supposed to be and Eric was where he was told to be Yeah So don't you think that there should be in there should be at least two more guards? Oh Yeah, but eight episodes to cut you off. But yeah, there there should be more guards and we see a lot more we haven't met many other Kings guard members obviously they're down and two half pretty much because they're down. I felt like a lot of them left, right? I thought it was just two of them because you see Aaron, the one twin. Aaron and Eric. I think it's the A1. Eric, it's Eric with a knee. The A1 is the one with the big beard. They both they look identical. and It's Eric with a knee. No, the one has a shorter ear like this.
00:22:42
Speaker
Does it? I didn't really. Yeah. The one that's with the greens has like a short beer that comes down straight. The one with the A and the ones with the team. Black has like a big beard. I thought it was the other day around. The A was with the greens, but I hate the names, though. It's Eric with an E and Eric with an A. I thought it was Arik. That's how I just kept saying. Well, I mean, that's how it should be pronounced to make it a little easier, but they're assholes. So they just say Eric or Eric, whatever. Yes, so so um we see in the episode Damon hires two two people to pretty much go and kill Helena's a son. Which one? Well, she hires them to kill Harris. No, I thought they say go find the kid.
00:23:25
Speaker
No, they they he says go kill Aemon Targaryen because he killed Luke. That's what that's who Damon wanted to kill. That's who Damon wanted them to kill. And then the one of them, when they can't find them and they find Helena and her kids, they just say a son for a son and taken into their own hands, which they should think the son for a son mess with my head. And I was like, oh, they went there to kill. Yeah. No, they he sent them specifically to kill Aemon. They were going to both get mopped by him. And if they got to that, do when you see him next episode with this, like, I mean, he's naked, but that dude is caught. He has he's like he's not a big dude, but he has zero fat on him. He is. I know it's all just muscle, lean muscle. But yes, then they they give her a choice of which one of her kids to kill. Yeah. And it's pretty fucked up. Horrible way to have to deal with it. Yeah. And then she did love the deal, though.
00:24:24
Speaker
I love the reveal when when she runs because you don't know whether they killed the boy or the girl because she points to him. I just I was just like, her I guess because I
Character Arcs and Plot Twists
00:24:31
Speaker
also knew. So that's a little different. Well, yeah, you knew. But I didn't know because I haven't read the book, novella, whatever. Don't be a bitch about it. I knew you were going to come in. You're like, it's novella. Actually, actually, what do we do? And yeah, I had no idea. Boom, RBI double. um I didn't know it was coming. So the the whole scene with Helena running away and like looking back after grabbing her kid, her and her daughter, um and running to Allison's room. And that that whole scene was really tense because I didn't know, did they kill the boy or did they kill the girl? Because if they killed the girl, it's just as bad in the grand scheme of things. for the green On the green side, it's just as bad. It's actually not because
00:25:19
Speaker
Aegon probably wouldn't have cared as much. It's not. It's definitely not as bad for the greens if it's the but if it's the girl. The guy is like does. It's his. It's he's the heir to the throne. Yeah. Iron throne. Like he it he he would have started the wars in the grand scheme of things. It would have been the same because the war still would have happened. It and it would have all gone down the same probably. But it's bigger for the greens because it is the heir to the throne. It is his son. So it's it's bigger. But. um
00:25:48
Speaker
Just that whole scene was really tense because I had no idea if they killed the right one until she got there and Helena says they got the boy, they killed the boy. And I was like, oh shit, this is bad. but Of course she walks in on her mom having sex with the. Yeah, that was chris that was cool. That was really good. um But that got that that finale, that end of that first episode really brought me back because it it was. how that That was some Game of Thrones type shit. I was kind of bored going and not bored, but like kind of like, all right, let's pick it up. The first episode, like you got it. You got to drag me in a little bit more. And then that happened. and I was like, oh, we are fucking back, dude. We are back, baby. But.
00:26:30
Speaker
Yeah, that was it was a great episode and it made me just think I had a great ending. It just made me want episode two so badly. And then we got to two. And I think episode two was in my opinion, at least I thought it was a great episode. I was very happy all the way through. I got exactly what I wanted out of it. And it got me to the point where I thought it was going to get me to. And it was cool seeing a dragon because it's always a part. Yeah. But we do. We didn't mention the new intro, though. The new change, the intro was like, I liked it. Yeah, it's stitching now. The wine's making me belch. um The stitching was cool. I'm not going to lie, though. I missed the the wine going through... The blood? Was it Valyria? Oh, yeah, it was blood. Sorry. um Was it Valyria or was it King's Landing? I think it was old Valyria because it was his like... it Yeah, no. it's oh And it's like to story it's the story of...
00:27:24
Speaker
Yeah, and it it shows everybody. And when a character dies, they're like dial filled with blood. that was It was so cool seeing it every week. So i I'm not going to lie, I kind of miss it. but You weren't even that excited for it either. I wasn't because i at first I wanted a new theme. But when I got used to it, I'm like, no, this is just this is just the the Westeros theme, especially if they do another show like Um, are they still going forward with the Jon Snow show? I feel like that's still like they announced it. Oh, they got it. Got it. That got canceled. All right. Dunkin in the egg still happening. Yeah. Dunkin egg is still happening. And I think they're still doing that one. It's not happening. All right. Never mind. That's not happening. Either the way, the Dunkin egg show, they got to keep it now because if if the Dunkin egg show comes out and the theme, the opening credit theme is different than it's like, all right, well, what the fuck?
00:28:16
Speaker
So hopefully they just keep it the way it is because the more I think about it, the more I'm like, oh yeah, this this is just the the song of ice and fire theme. it's It's just, it's so good. Fire and blood. It just got me in the mood immediately. When I sat down to watch episode one, I was like, all right, well, here we go. I got to watch this for the podcast, for work, you know, busy day. And then as soon as that song started playing, I was in. I was like, oh, we're back. I'm so excited. Oh, no, I locked in for that. yeah When I when they came back on, I was like, I'm i'm back. I'm sit down, get me ready. I will say I do miss Millie Alcock still. Still. Yeah. You know, Millie Alcock. She's still good in that first season.
00:28:57
Speaker
Well, no, nothing against was really good. Emma Darcy and. Olivia Cook, Olivia Cook, Olivia Cook, very good still as um Allison. And so, yeah, Emma Darcy's. They're both a nominal. What was that? I said they're both fantastic. I agree. Yeah, no, they are. Emma, Emma Darcy, they were in. I love how they look when they're upset and just. Oh, the entire cast is so good in this show. I think they did such a good job of getting everyone. I mean, Kristen Cole, as much as he's a bitch, we we like to pick on Kristen Cole. Yeah, dude, Ryan, you were just hidden in this video now. um I know. the light The lights went out. But um yeah, but at the same time, like it's that thing with like the characters that you hate and for ah especially in Game of Thrones, because the same thing happened with like Joffrey and especially Joffrey like fuck.
00:29:53
Speaker
It's those characters that you hate and you you call the actor a bitch. Actually, it's funny to say that because um ah what's his name? It's like Fabian Frankel
Thematic Depth and Motives
00:30:04
Speaker
or some bullshit. and some Yeah, Kristen Cole. The actor, he just deleted his Instagram because all his comments were like, fuck you, you bitch. Really? Yeah, he just deleted his Instagram. You were so mean. I'm saying Kristen Cole is a bitch. I'm not saying the actor's a bitch. Yeah, no, i I agree. But at the same time, that's that's my point. Like he is a bitch. We hate him so much because the performance is so good. Like he's he's done. It's just Joffrey. Joffrey got bullied in school. The kid who played him. Yeah, he was getting not even bullied in school. He was getting fucking death threats from 40 year olds like this. Ridiculous. um yeah it's People are just crazy.
00:30:42
Speaker
But again, don't be mean to the actors that you don't like. Do not ever be mean to the actors you don't like. Just be nice to them. They're doing their job. That's what they're supposed to do. If you don't like the character, they're doing a good job. You say like, hey, nice job. Don't be a thick head. Yeah, that's that's my point. Just be nice to people. Yeah, just like the same people who are mean to. Oh, my God, I'm so bad with the actors names today. um here it Ella, Ellie, last of us. Oh, oh shit. Damn. Oh, fuck. It's on my tongue. Can't remember. Yeah, but also that was that was for a different reason, which is definitely worse. Yeah, if they were mean to a a teenage girl because of her how she looked.
00:31:34
Speaker
You know, that's that's my point. Like, that's that's that's that's a different thing. Like, that's that's significantly worse. I think that was the only time I ever got mad on the podcast when I was reading about that. You went on like a two minute rant. I don't I don't like people who bully people. Well, these are not nice. Unless it's your friends. You can bully your friends. It's different. But episode two, how does this episode start? How did it start? God, I just watched it today. Yeah, I watched it last night. It's fresher in your mind. You got to think of it. Oh my God. I can't even think. I'm going to pull up the episode. You keep talking. You got notes. Keep talking. I told you I didn't write notes for this one. Oh my God, Tom. It's just going to be the whole thing. Just us yelling at each other. Pretty much. That's the whole point of the podcast. That is kind of the whole point. Oh, How The Dragon, Sir Kristen Cole is still the worst kid.
00:32:31
Speaker
Still the worst piece of shit on the show is one of those things. I think I just saw the bug. oh
00:32:38
Speaker
Ow. Is he into MC2 recap? Skip intro. Come on. All right, yeah, it opens with the bloody, they're cleaning up the mess, and they're dragging all the locals. They're like, who did it? Oh, you're pulling them all into the center of the hall to lock down the hall. The red keep. um And then you get Aegon destroying the old, his dad's old statues of Valeria, which may be sad, dude. That was always so nice seeing him play with his little Lego set. Dude, you just saw a game bigger and bigger throughout the season. Yeah. Oh, man, it made me so happy seeing him play with those things. um Playing with him. What was his what was his dude's name? um Shit. It was um it was Ned. What's what's Ned Stark's full name?
00:33:25
Speaker
Oh my God. oh no What's Ned short for? Eddard. His name was Eddard, the guy who was helping him with his Legos. Everybody was like, Oh, Eddard, let's go. That was fun. okay Yeah. And then Allison's crying because her, her, her grandson's dead. Oh, when she's sitting down talking, she's talking about Otto, right? Yeah. And then you get a small council meeting where he's like, maybe one of you did it. And they're all like, stop fucking talking to get. And then Otto brings up that they should um they should maybe. Even if it was someone in that room, maybe they should frame it on someone else meeting or a Nira. Yeah, that's fucked. And then, of course, we from then, it's the funeral, right?
00:34:13
Speaker
I think it. No, I think you get the scene. I'm going to skip through a little more. All right. Yeah, it is. It does go right to the funeral. Yeah, dude, I'm not the whole time when they showed the as hard was this is going to sound when they showed the little kid. I had the same thought that you're going to head and they got stuck. Uh huh. I thought that head was coming off. A hundred percent. I was waiting for it the whole time, especially when Helena was like freaking out. I thought that baby was rolling. Yeah, I 100% thought that Ed was going to roll off. I do want to know why she was like freaking out when all the... i I think there's more to it. Well, yeah, I think anxiety, but I feel like with a character like her, but that because she's a dream seer, absolutely. Oh, so maybe maybe she dies that way. Maybe. I don't know. like there There has to be more from her freak out with all like the small folk grabbing towards her that she just like we don't understand yet.
00:35:09
Speaker
Um, cause we didn't, we didn't even talk about it. She had that line in the first episode, like fear the rats or whatever she said. And then it's the rat catchers that come out and get it. Yeah. And then they they hang them. Yeah. That was another scene that was like, dude, autos freak out. He's like, why the fuck would you do that? I was with, I was with him. Uh, not auto. I was with a gun. Yeah. Well, yeah I mean, yeah, that's like, but at the same time, You can't hang all of them. Like you, you just can't do that as the King because Otto, Otto made the right point. He's like, you hung a hundred people.
00:35:48
Speaker
One of them was the bad guy. Ninety-nine of them have mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, wives who are all crying and hate you right now. The whole point of this right now, of putting this on Reneira, which, you know. To make them like you. To do it is to make them like you and you get them on your side. Now you're pushing that away. Now you're hurting your image even more. And they already didn't like you before. We got one thing that made them like you and support you and you just fucked that up, you dumbass. So, yeah. Best scene. It was the best scene. The entire episode was that whole sequence with Otto, Kristin and Aegon. Yep, I agree. And it is going to be really interesting to see what, if anything, Kristin does as Hand of the King, because that was going to be horrible, dangerous, dangerous scenario to have.
Complex Interactions and Plot Developments
00:36:37
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I mean, that is unbelievably unhinged.
00:36:41
Speaker
And to think the only reason that he's with Allison is because Renee was like, no, I'm not going to sell oranges with you and ride a donkey. Yeah. She got the. going to bro She literally got the ick in game. big of the i Yeah. And then he went to the funniest and most uncomfortable scenes of the show. The look she is trying to most so awkward. And she's like, like we stop no, what the fuck? I'm going to be queen one day, Dickhead. I'm not leaving. How the fuck would I give this up? Yeah. Kind of makes sense now. Why should we give up? She made the pact. She's like, listen, I'm going to, I'm marrying a gay dude. He doesn't want to have sex with me. We can still bang. And Kristen's like, am I a whore? No. What are you doing now, buddy? What are you doing now? You went and gave Allison that Hock too. You know what I'm saying? That's, that's it. You didn't do anything better. You got to give him that Hock too.
00:37:36
Speaker
They can't even see you doing it. I know, whatever. It's probably for the best. But then we get to see back on Dragonstone, we get to see Reneer finding out that they're accusing her of killing. What are they calling her? Reneer the Pretender? Pretender of the throne. Yeah, it's like pretender throne, killer of the innocent, something else. Kin Slayer. Yeah, King Slayer. No, Kin Slayer. No. She's not the King Slayer. She's not the King Slayer. She's the Kin Slayer. K-I-N Slayer. Oh, is that what they're calling the Kin Slayer? Yeah, because she killed her kin. yeah ah sir That was her nephew.
00:38:15
Speaker
It's fucked up. She didn't do it. Poor Reneira. Well, yeah, but it got pinned on her because she's in charge. I know we're near as a dude. I love Renier. I know. I don't know if I'm team black because I don't like a lot of people in black. I don't know. And I'm definitely not team green, but I am rooting just for Renier herself. Yeah, Renier deserves to be queen because Damon is also just so unhinged. Yeah, Damon is just a terrifying character. That was another great scene. I think that's, that's probably next in the docket after the funeral scene. When they have that argument, she's like, why the fuck did you do that?
00:38:51
Speaker
yeah she needs one Oh my God, you don't understand. I had to kill that kid. I wasn't trying to kill the kid, but is it really that bad? She's like, yeah. Yeah. It's that bad. Yeah. This one I feel a lot more I feel a lot better than the boys episode This is a lot better of an episode of two episodes of television also definitely helps it is and I think but Game of Thrones we have more to talk about because we As much as we both like the boys Nothing beats like as far as TV worlds ago Game of Thrones is top of the it's top. It's also just so much bigger There's so much more to talk about
00:39:35
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. You can't have a ah discussion or ah you know a solo discussion about which bully's character would brew the best beer. I mean, you probably could, but it's not it's not as interesting as figuring out which. That was not a discussion. That was you talking, me trying to continue the five minutes. That was a ramble. Listen, I had a simple wine. I had a simple Miller Lite line, a lot of wine, and just went off on it. Miller Lite. like But after that, what else do we see? Oh, of course, we see Kristen seeing them clean the room, take the bed out or to cover the blood. ah We see him. house and I will say as much as I hate Kristen, you definitely saw like when that when the guy turned the mattress and see all the blood on it, the way he looks away like he definitely when he sends Eric to do the the thing like that was definitely him.
00:40:33
Speaker
feeling guilty. He absolutely feels guilty for not being there as much as he knows his response. Yeah, that's why. it's so days Yeah, he wasn't that wasn't his post. He says that was Eric's post, which i I mean, I have no idea if it was or wasn't. But as the I don't i remember the term, but the leader of the Kingsguard, you got to you have to take responsibility for that. The same way we're near, it takes responsibility or is given the responsibility for killing Jaehaerys. That's on him. should you know Shit happens and you got to feel bad for it. so That is the one time so far that I've kind of felt bad for Kristin because just the way that he averts his eyes and he's like, oh, fuck, man, that's terrible. I mean i feel like anyone would react that way. to it's ah It's a child being the beheaded.
00:41:23
Speaker
Yeah. violent all really wait The way you hear like the cuts and the cry that like second cry. they are du oh wow Why you laughing? it's It's such a good show. But because I wasn't expecting I thought it was just you're gonna hear a cut and then you hear that little whimper. I'm like, oh, not good. point you know I will say that's what I think House of Dragon done so well. is that they don't maybe they are a little toned down on the violence from Game of Thrones, but they still want you to feel every bit of sorrow, disgust, and everything for each character and what happens. I think even more so. I think one of the differences between Game of Thrones and House and the Dragon is that it tones down the violence in a lot of ways. as in like we've We've had battle scenes, remember the step zones from season one. and like
00:42:16
Speaker
There's been some wacky fucking war scenes, but you also get in these like smaller murders and stuff that happens. It's a lot less like it's not it's not as much about the gore and like seeing the decapitation and like all the blood and stuff. It's more so how it affects the characters, which obviously that happens a shit ton in Game of Thrones. But I feel like it's more impactful in a different way in House of the Dragon because you hear, you see Helena's face running in fear as you hear the kid cry. Like I feel like in Game of Thrones, you would have stayed in the room and maybe just like watch them cut and there'd be some blood slider on the wall and be like, Oh man, that's terrible. But in House of the Dragon, they understand you got to focus on how it's affecting the character that's closest to this kid. Like it,
00:43:03
Speaker
It's more impactful in that way, to me at least. They've done a really good job. And i that's why I think I definitely like. I like the direction of House of the Dragon more than Game of Thrones, I think. I just like how it I like the way that they film things. I like the way that they go about certain sequences. And even like Game of Thrones, like they very much, especially early seasons, loved, loved sex, loved by. And these this show finds a way to do it, but do it in my opinion, a better way. Like I find it more interesting the way they
Speculation on Future Developments
00:43:35
Speaker
do it. Yeah, so it feels more like.
00:43:38
Speaker
The show feels like a Shakespeare play like in a lot of ways. It's just it's a lot more about the character's motivations and feelings in and after shit happens, shit goes down. Whereas Game of Thrones, like you said, is a lot more like it's more in your face in a way. Whereas House of the Dragon is more like. um Cerebral, I guess. That was a that was a big word that didn't make much sense. I shouldn't have said that. But you know what I'm trying to say. Like it's. Yeah, no, it's very much. just it's poetic And they've done a really good job of that. But yeah, um from where where are we at? Damon gets sent away. Oh, Damon's daughter comes and talks to Reneira. Yeah, much explains it. There's no. And Damon flies away and does whatever the fuck he's going to do. Big ass dragon man. Big ass dragon. So cool. what's What's that dragon's name?
00:44:30
Speaker
I can never bring begin with a V. Veremax. Yup. No, that's not Veremax. Is it Veremax? I thought it was. Which one's Veremax? Wait, where's Veremax?
00:44:43
Speaker
I was gonna say that. No, Veremax was Luke's dragon. The little one that got fucking shot. No, no, no. Veremax is Jack's dragon. Veremax is alright, I think. Oh yeah, because he talks about he's the one he's like, yeah, I'm gonna fly Veremax. Yeah, yeah. Fuck. That dragon's huge. That's the one he finds, right? He goes to get in the cave. Remember, it's in the dark, and he walks in with- No, no, no. That's not the one Damon gets. Are you talking about the one Damon finds at the end of last season? is that That's the one he's on now, isn't it?
00:45:20
Speaker
No, no, no, no. It's not. That one's that one's huge. That was remember the old king in the very beginning of season one, like the king that died and decided that um what's his name is going to be king instead of the woman. That was his dragon. I'm pretty sure. Oh, because that's what is that dragon showing up. I want that. I mean, I hope it's soon because that dragon is enormous. I think that's I think that dragon is just like a little bit smaller than they are. I think that's like the second oldest dragon. Wait, they guards is. They guard is the main one. That's that's a gun for Amens. Yeah, Amens. Yeah, that's the one that. Yeah. That eight Luke. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that shot was they'll never not be awesome of him coming out of the storm. Oh, yeah. It's coming through the cloud. Oh, yeah. Caraxes is Danes. Correct. Dragon Caraxes.
00:46:14
Speaker
um Yeah, I'm going to make a little note thing and just tape it to the table. It's going to have and all the names now. It's going to be so hard to put some member. I forget the dragon that Damon goes and finds the big one. I forget his name, but I know it it's nickname is the bronze theory. Fucking badass. So, yeah, is it is it showing the trailer? I don't I don't think it is. I don't remember. I know we're getting more. They said this one's going to have more battles in this season, so. Yeah, I mean, this is going to be like the beginning of the war, because are they doing? Yeah, two or three. They're doing another season. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's three. They must be doing another season because there's a lot of shit that still has to go down. And I don't know. They're definitely a lot. We need to see. Yeah. um But yeah. What what are we missing? so just ah The whole scene with Otto having to give up the hand.
00:47:08
Speaker
Well, that we talked all that down as we get the scene. We get the scene with Kristen talking to Eric and he's like, go kill your brother and the queen. Yeah, we talk about the queen. But yeah, and then that that all happens. That was that scene was really good. I do like you see a lot more of the Kingsguard guys, because like, those are the only two Kingsguard you see on the green side that you know about. So it is cool seeing. Obviously, you know, there's more of them, but it's cool seeing. I think there were like two or three more that were eating. It's nice to know there's just more of them. Yeah. And then what is it? It's Liston and. Arek, Eric. Oh, I have no idea. Which one is Team Black? I think it's Eric. I think it's the E1. All right.
00:47:51
Speaker
Pretty sure. Yeah, because you're listening, right? Listen to the bald one. Isn't that his name? I have no idea. I have no idea. I'm just making shit up. But there is one with the blacks. Yeah, there's two with the blacks. Yeah, yeah, that's what I So you get that scene and then you get the scene of Jack talking to Damon's daughter, his wife to be. When she's shooting the crossbow. Yeah, she's shooting the crossbow. And he's like, dad's kind of sucks sometimes. And he's like, she's like, your dad was strong. He's like, shut the fuck up. No, remember she she said, um
00:48:29
Speaker
She shit because he was like, yeah, my dad was kind of cool. I didn't know him very well because he was, you know, he was kind of gay and wasn't there a lot. um But we don't talk about that. And then she's like, how was Harwin strong? And he's like, no he was nice. Don't talk about him. He's not my dad, I promise.
00:48:48
Speaker
yeah But I do like in that scene, like the way you see Jack kind of look off in the distance and he very clearly thinks of Harwin Strong, he knows. like he's He's never going to say it because obviously that would take away his um his legitimacy. as ah i mean He's still a Valyrian at this point, but he will be a Targaryen eventually. um When he, when he takes the throne, he'll be a Targaryen. So that would obviously take that away. Um, but he understands like it's, yeah it's an open secret to everybody that he's a strong. And I think he understands that and he's, he's come, he's come to terms with it. And he, he understands that, you know, it should happens and you just got to, you got to accept it and understand and move on. So I thought that was a pretty cool scene of showing us that he kind of gets it, but he understands that he just, he can't really go into that with anybody.
00:49:43
Speaker
Yeah, no, he's he's learning how to play the game. Yeah, yeah, totally. The next scene is when Aymond is in the brothel. But I was naked and he's drinking milk, which gave me straight homelander vibes immediately. Second, she started pouring because it was it was like a white substance. It was like steaming. So maybe it's like hot, but ah it had to be milk because he's obviously has some like mommy issues, the way he's cuddling with that lady. i I don't know. I don't know what's going on with him. He's as he's a scary dude. But I will say the way that he closes his eyes ah and only one of the eyes closes and the sapphire is still there. I was like, oh, that's really cool looking. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. God, he's such a good character. He's going to have so he's going to become a people are going to really like him like how crazy he is.
00:50:39
Speaker
Yeah, I think people already like him, but it it will be interesting to see like how far he goes soon. Um, and then we get that guy. Um, I forget his name, but the guy who was asking the iron worker, who was asking for money at the, uh, at the meeting, the, the King, ah what do you call it when the King takes like. Here's the one. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Thank you. You get the guy who was like asking for money and you see as a sick kid, um, that guy's going to have more to do. I think that guy is more important than they're leading on because I don't, I don't remember him from season one at all, but definitely more important than they're leading on. I don't, I don't think he's going to be just like an audience surrogate for the small folk. I think he's going to be more important than that.
00:51:26
Speaker
But if if he is that, then, you know, all right, whatever. That's that's kind of neat. And then you go back to the Valyrians. And what's his name? God, we suck at this. If they do, there's so many. It always takes me to halfway through the season. Yeah, too many names. There's a lot of names. But we see him and um his wife talking, who I also forget. God damn it.
00:51:57
Speaker
Give me a second. Corlys and Corlys and Rhaenys. Dogs. Best couple in Game of Thrones, possibly. Besides Ned and Catelyn. Eric Catelyn. Catlin. ah No, they're not even the best. Who? The best? It's Rob and his, uh, his girl. Oh, Rob and Talissa. Yeah. No, they were a good couple, but no, it's Ned and Kate, Ned and Catlin are the best dude. Ned and Catlin were perfect. Absolutely perfect. Except for the fact that Allen was going to marry Ned's brother until he fucking got burned alive. That part kind of sucks. Exactly. Really good couple. No.
00:52:47
Speaker
OK, fine. I'm sorry with you on this one. Yeah, that's cool. Well, I'll see you guys. I've been carrying this. He's so cool. And if we got to we kind of forgot to mention that they have the blockade. Yeah, they do have the blockade going around. They're preventing trade. So they they found um um the one you were breaking
Final Thoughts and Recommendations
00:53:07
Speaker
up like crazy. yeah Am I breaking up like that?
00:53:13
Speaker
Hopefully it sounds all right in the recording, but. Yeah. Give me one second. Pause. Can you hear me? Yeah. pause Pause. Pause. Ready? Pause. Okay. Sorry for the technical difficulties of that like last 20 seconds, but we're back. We figured some of that out. This is the problems with doing the long distance episodes, but yeah, we'll make them work. And yeah. doesn't know else do we have Yeah, I see it. What, uh, Raney and Corlys are there. And they're, uh, they're nice. They're a good couple. We're talking about that. Ned and Kaitlyn, Kaitlyn are still the best couple in Game of Thrones. You said Robin to Alyssa. That's a very good choice. I respectfully disagree, but they are a very great couple. Um, all right. Now my, now the show is frozen, so I cannot tell you what's coming next. I think I'm losing my fight.
00:54:14
Speaker
Um, but yeah, I mean, the main, the main final point of this episode is of course, uh, Kristen Cole, of course, sends Eric to go kill, uh, Renira, and he has to pretend to be his brother, Eric. And what? So fuck. Who's the girl that can tell the fucking future? Oh, sorry. No, excuse me. No, not tells the future. She like has spies everywhere. I'm sorry. She's like, yeah. OK. The lady in red. Making sure. Yes. Yeah. The white worm making sure you didn't think she actually had like she she's not a dream see or like I didn't. I got confused for a second. Yeah, no, I got confused. But then. Before we get there, there is that quick scene in um
00:55:10
Speaker
I don't know, wherever the Valerians live, when you get that that guy, the guy who just comes in this episode and he sees that that one sailor that Cordless was talking to last episode and he's like, hey brother, how you doing? yeah And then you see him look up at a dragon. Was that Seasmoke? Was that Reneer's husband's dragon? Because I thought it was. No, I thought that i was user i thought that was the other i thought that was the one i thought it was Damon's daughter. See, like, because you see her riding a dragon later, but I don't, i'm I'm looking at the scene right now, like cutting through it. I don't think you see a rider on that. Like, I don't know. I think it might be Seasmoke because that, that would be extremely important because we don't know. Obviously. I mean, I'm blanking on that guy's name again.
00:55:56
Speaker
But obviously he survived and they they faked his death and everything. Lenore. Yeah, but I think he's gone gone. like I don't think he's gone back. I agree. I agree. But if they were able to get his dragon back, that would be in incredibly important for them. And we also have this mystery man that's come to the that's come to wherever the Valyrians live, which i I already forget again. Not the step zones, right? Like they control the step zones, but that's not their place. um No, I thought they. yeah Harrenhal? No, they don't have Harrenhal. They don't want to have Harrenhal. No. I don't know who's at Harrenhal right now. Someone has Harrenhal. Someone does. No, I think the greens have Harrenhal. No, they said Damon's going to Harrenhal, I thought. Well, yeah, but then I don't think he's going to Harrenhal for a good reason.
00:56:49
Speaker
I don't think the Blacks have Harrenhal. I think the Greens have Harrenhal because the last we saw of Harrenhal, it was the Strongs that had it and then Laris fucking killed his dad and brother and probably took it for the Greens. I don't think Laris controls it. I think maybe they have somebody else in there. I just forget who it is. but i'm ah That was a hard point. If the green or Blacks can get sea smoke back, which it would make more sense for them to get it back. um It would be really important for them. And we also have yet to find out who this mystery man is, who just came in. And, you know, I don't know, maybe he knows something. I don't think i don't think it is Lenore, because it's it's a different actor, it looks like.
00:57:32
Speaker
At least he grew his hair out, maybe, and I just can't tell. And his hair is black, so it's definitely a different guy. Unless he dyed it like really dark for some reason. Um, yeah, no I don't know all different person. Yeah, totally. I just, I don't know what that dragon was because it really looked like sea smoke. It was that like really light gray color. And I didn't see anybody riding it.
00:57:57
Speaker
Oh yeah. No, I mean, could be. Could be. Good. Yeah, you froze for a second. Can you still hear me? ah Yeah, no, I can hear you. All right, cool. You're just still all good in behind me. but I'll wait. All right. Yeah, no. I was just in agreement with you. Hey, it's the end of the episode. If people made it here, we're very happy. But yeah um for the people that are watching, Ryan, they know how these episodes go.
00:58:30
Speaker
Now we know for future reference, don't do them outside. Yes. But true, at least at night, because during the day it was fine. But as soon as it got dark out, bad. Yeah, why does it? Why did that make it go bad? That makes no sense. Should Wi Fi get shut off at a certain time? I have no idea. It shouldn't. to I swear that there's people in this building right now or you ah or there's ghosts in our building. I think ghosts just kind of follow me and my family. You know this. I hear people out that door ah creeping in. Fuck y'all.
00:59:10
Speaker
But, yeah, we see what could be sweet smoke or we just see a dragon. But as I said, then we talk about sir Kristen sending ah Eric to kill Roneira and he has to pretend to be Eric, the other one. But when we get there, I did like seeing them kind of like cross paths without seeing each other. um I like how that scene was filmed and I like how I'm sorry, sees him and is like, wait a second. Yeah. So I thought she was going to get back before him, but I was like, that's not going to make sense. she'll He'll notice that she runs by. So I wonder what she ended up doing in that sequence. Because she didn't get back to the room because we yeah saw how it all the way out. Yeah, she didn't tell anybody. So I don't know. Maybe. Yeah, I don't know that because she she doesn't tell anybody. She just walks back and is like. All right, cool. She doesn't get back in time or tell anybody.
01:00:06
Speaker
Or maybe she did tell him like very quickly because it does he does realize Eric, whatever. yeah the The good one realizes it like pretty quickly because the bad one is being really, really sneaky and then all of a sudden the good one is like, ah, stand down, brother. Like, you know, he definitely could have noticed him, but I feel like the way he did notice them or realize it kind of was like sudden. So maybe maybe Miss Aria did tip him off at some point and then we just didn't see it. So. Oh, so maybe we'll find out in the next episode. Yeah, maybe.
01:00:43
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. i I don't know. I think we'll find out in the next episode what happened. You were like five seconds behind everything I say.
01:00:54
Speaker
No, we're good now. It was lame. He had me as post. So again, we're having a lot of technical difficulties at the end of this episode. But um as we said, the areas had to then fight to protect Reneira. Eric, the good one, ends up defeating his brother and killing him, which then leads to. him falling. I mean, killing your own brother has to be a horrible thing to do. And in response, he takes his own life and falls under the sword. The very ah infamous ah way of committing suicide, especially when you feel dishonor. And yeah, that is how episode two goes for those who are wondering if Ryan's not talking. I think Ryan got disconnected, if I'm not mistaken.
01:01:38
Speaker
ah No, no, no. I'm just waiting for you to finish. Oh, you're feeling very clear right now. Trying to be quiet. I used to be. But you told me. Yeah, he sadly has to take his own life because he killed his own brother. And I really it's one of those things where you see a lot of characters starting characters do things and they know that they can't come back from that. And to me, that's probably one of the biggest things you probably can't come back from is killing a family member, especially one that you don't want to hurt. And or for like it wasn't he. It's his brother. It's his only person left for him. But and it was so sad seeing Reneira's reaction to the whole thing because she. There's a ghost out there is fucking with me. And but yeah, it was really I thought it was a really good way to end the episode and get me ready for what we're going to see next.
01:02:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, totally. i'm I'm really excited for episode three. I think it's going to pick up from here, like really, really pick up steam. um Like you said, the the whole that whole fight scene with the Ariks was really, really good. I thought it was really well known, really well choreographed, just like the cuts he gets when the it's it's tough to tell which brothers which during that fight, which is like it adds to the scene. It's kind of the point. But those cuts they gave each other, like the one gets cut in the leg, and then the other one just grabs the cut and just pulls on it. Oh, man, it was really good. In the way Renira and the other Kingsguard guy are trying to figure out who's who, it was a really, really good scene. And just the way it ends, it's incredibly tragic. And I think Emma Darcy's performance in that, I'm just being like, no, I'm just breaking down.
01:03:17
Speaker
Um, really as that, and it it kind of made the scene for me because just the way she reacts is terrifying because I mean, that was one of her two King guard members, unless there's more that I just forget about. I think she only had those two and now she's down. One of them, probably the better one, if, if we're being honest. um So yeah, it's really, really bad for the blacks. Obviously not great for the greens, but it's a sacrifice that they can take at this time. And they knew what they were doing. And the greens definitely won this one. Yeah, absolutely. And it's also a message. Like, Reneer knows, who the fuck is Layton on fireworks? Anyway, Reneer knows that she can be vulnerable now. So especially with Damon being gone and nobody knows where he's going or what he's doing at this point.
01:04:10
Speaker
She's in a very vulnerable place right now, and I think the Greens are going to realize that. um And Renira has as well. Do you got dar dogs going crazy? I got ghosts in the next door to me. This is a crazy episode. I hear them. Can you hear the dogs? Can you hear the air conditioning unit going off? the No, I can feel like a little every couple like you would hear it on and off, but it's not that annoying. And it will get cut in the post-production anyway. But yeah, that is our review so far. The first two episodes of House of the Dragon. We're probably going to. From now on, we can probably do the boys in House of the Dragon one episode, because now it's going to go one for one, not three episodes, two episodes. So we probably can do it that way, or we could separate them. This is something we'll have to figure out. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I feel like first two episodes.
Show Impressions and Recommendations
01:04:59
Speaker
The first two episodes, the first one's good. I think the second one was really good. And yeah, I think it's all to a good start, just as good as it was last season. And I, I'm excited to see where this, the next six episodes take us and set us up for the final season. Nope.
01:05:17
Speaker
yep Yep. I agree. And quickly, we got to do our recommendation of the week. I'm going to recommend.
01:05:26
Speaker
I'm going to recommend Batman, the I made series. I watched a couple of episodes of that the other day, or if that's not really down your alley, superheroes and stuff. Go watch One Tree Hill and rewatching it right now. Very good. Breaking my heart. So it's very similar scene. Yeah, it's like my come in now.
01:05:45
Speaker
Shut up, Jesus. um Show my going to recommend. I can do a movie too. What did I just watch? I'm going to recommend Sicario because I want to watch it with my dad because I told him to watch it. I told him we were going to watch it and then I had to go back down for work. So we didn't get a chance to, but it's a fantastic movie. Best director out there, Denis. But yeah, anything else you want to add?
Anticipation for The Boys and Future Reviews
01:06:14
Speaker
For now.
01:06:18
Speaker
No, I just, I mean, I can't wait for episode three of this show. The boys definitely, you know, I'm, I'm still excited for it. Definitely going to watch it, but this show is, it's, it's the best show on television right now. the bed I think it's still there. What else? What else? There's a fantastic.
01:06:43
Speaker
Damon would fuck up car me, dude. We're going to the fucking wagon. No one's got Draco. Fucking big difference. Actually, I don't know. They'd be so scared if they heard those Dracos and Mac 10s going off when they pulled up to Chicago. Don't get none of that. Damon wouldn't give up. Damon won't give up. Damon would be so confused.
Closing and Listener Engagement
01:07:08
Speaker
But before we lose all this audio yeah and stuff due to technical difficulties, we're going to exit out on this episode. So thank you guys so much for tuning in and listening to the show and supporting us and following us on all social medias. Continue to like and share the episode and we will see you next week to review another episode of The Boys, another episode of House of the Dragon and the the bear probably. Ryan, what do you want to say to end in this episode? Yeah, that'll be helpful. Uh, peace out dog. Um, I stand by it. Stormlands at the stormlands. I don't know. The Baratheons would brew the best beer in Westeros a hundred percent. There we get down.