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Episode 164: "Daredevil: Born Again" Review Episodes 1-4
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This week on the show the boys review episodes 1-4 of “Daredevil: Born Again”! This episode was a lot of fun and the boys had a blast recording it! We hope you all enjoy it and we will talk to you later!!
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Nighttime Activities and Sleep
00:00:00
tommy cresta
So as I was going to say before we hit record, so I was yesterday, I was staying up for my brother to get home. Had to make sure he got home safely, make sure the house was all locked up.
00:00:11
tommy cresta
But I was really tired because I, so Sam was over and I, she left at like five the other day. And I, like we fell asleep and I woke up and I was like, okay, time to go back to bed. But then the film the game was starting with the Dodgers and Cubs at 6-11 in the morning.
00:00:24
tommy cresta
i was like, gotta stay up, put some bets down, show you Atani.
00:00:24
Ryan
yeah
00:00:28
tommy cresta
Watched the game. So I was really tired. I like, you know what? I want good night's sleep. was like, I'm going to go take a melatonin gummy. So I went up and I saw the extra strength ones. And i was like, okay.
00:00:39
tommy cresta
So I can take two. Maybe I can take three.
00:00:41
Ryan
Wait, you did this at like 6 a.m. you took a melatonin?
00:00:44
tommy cresta
No, no, no, no.
00:00:44
Ryan
and
00:00:45
tommy cresta
This is when going to bed.
00:00:45
Ryan
Or the next night?
00:00:46
tommy cresta
When I was going to bed yet last night.
00:00:46
Ryan
Okay. All right.
00:00:48
tommy cresta
was going to take three of the extra strength melatonin gummies.
00:00:48
Ryan
I going to say it.
00:00:50
tommy cresta
And just sleep like a baby.
00:00:52
Ryan
Three? What's your problem?
00:00:53
tommy cresta
Dude, I was. Dude, I had some wild dreams last night. I had a dream that Daredevil beat me up. It was terrifying. yeah do you know how embarrassing it when you know it's a blind guy beating you up?
00:01:07
Ryan
Yeah.
00:01:07
tommy cresta
I did not.
00:01:07
tommy cresta
I felt very incapable. I mean, he wasn't just like fighting me, beating me up, and then letting me go. He had me against the wall and just hit me with the baton thing over and over again. It felt like an eternity.
00:01:19
tommy cresta
And I finally thought I got away and I was walking like away, like stumbling. And this dude just
Introduction to Daredevil Series Review
00:01:23
tommy cresta
dropped out the sky and just from the top rope punched me and I hit my face on the ground. I woke up.
00:01:28
Ryan
You probably deserved it.
00:01:28
tommy cresta
it was like, dude, it was in it was a nightmare.
00:01:29
Ryan
I don't know what you did, but...
00:01:31
tommy cresta
I looked up and just saw Daredo flying down on top of me.
00:01:35
Ryan
Yeah.
00:01:35
tommy cresta
But yeah, that's how that's how my night went.
00:01:37
Ryan
So what did you do to deserve that?
00:01:39
tommy cresta
I have no idea. The dream started.
00:01:40
Ryan
What crimes did you can commit?
00:01:41
tommy cresta
i was walking, passing an alleyway, and he just swung in and kicked me into the alleyway and started beating my ass. and Maybe I jaywalked.
00:01:46
Ryan
don't know.
00:01:47
tommy cresta
I don't know what I did wrong. But he...
00:01:50
Ryan
You should be like, dude, I'm Catholic. Stop it.
00:01:52
tommy cresta
i was like, please, I believe in God.
00:01:53
Ryan
Please. ah
00:01:56
tommy cresta
think he beats up people who are like atheists.
00:01:58
Ryan
Yeah, probably.
00:01:59
tommy cresta
He just searches them out.
00:02:01
Ryan
This is justice.
00:02:02
tommy cresta
This is justice. But welcome everyone back to the podcast.
Reflections on Birthday and Daredevil's Tone
00:02:07
tommy cresta
We're here to review Daredevil episodes 1, 2, 3, and 4. And before we get into that, like every episode, Ryan, how you doing?
00:02:15
Ryan
It's still tired somehow.
00:02:18
Ryan
It's 1214. It's noon.
00:02:23
Ryan
i don't know I didn't sleep well last night.
00:02:25
tommy cresta
Really? Should have taken melatonin extra strength.
00:02:26
Ryan
No, I don't know why. yeah I should have taken like five of them and just died.
00:02:31
tommy cresta
Should have fought Daredevil with me.
00:02:35
Ryan
Do you think if we take the same dose of melatonin, we can like link dreams, be in the same dreams together?
00:02:39
tommy cresta
Dude, that would be it would be awesome if you could like link up with your friend co-op in Dreams.
00:02:41
Ryan
That's... Yeah.
00:02:44
tommy cresta
And just co-op on adventures.
00:02:46
Ryan
yeah
00:02:47
tommy cresta
But yeah, how was your birthday?
00:02:50
Ryan
It's fine.
00:02:51
tommy cresta
Fine.
00:02:51
Ryan
It was perfect. It was just nothing happened. It was just relaxing.
00:02:54
tommy cresta
Did you get any good gifts?
00:02:55
Ryan
Just chilled out. I just got money. It was perfect.
00:02:59
tommy cresta
ah that's perfect. That's the best gift.
00:03:00
Ryan
It's the best gift possible. Yeah.
00:03:03
tommy cresta
Damn, no one's going to get me money for my birthday.
00:03:04
Ryan
That's it.
00:03:06
tommy cresta
My mom's like, what did you want? i was like, tattooed gift cards, money. And she's like, what else? I like, that's it. There's nothing else that I want in this world.
00:03:10
Ryan
That's it. Yeah.
00:03:13
tommy cresta
um But yeah, Daredevil. We got our first four episodes so far. It debuted with two of them. And yeah, so far it's being pretty well received across everything.
00:03:24
tommy cresta
It's got an 8.7 out of out of 5 on Vulture.
00:03:24
Ryan
Yeah.
00:03:30
tommy cresta
hate Vulture.
00:03:31
Ryan
the fuck is Vulture?
00:03:32
tommy cresta
It's like the magazine company. They're like ah variety, but not as big.
00:03:34
Ryan
ah
00:03:37
Ryan
Yeah.
00:03:37
tommy cresta
um and then Oh my god, Rotten Tomatoes.
00:03:38
Ryan
Gotcha.
00:03:39
tommy cresta
then Rotten Tomatoes has an 87% critic score with an 81 audience. Oh,
Daredevil Episode 4 Spoilers and Analysis
00:03:45
Ryan
Yeah.
00:03:45
tommy cresta
I gotta go to season one though for details because some reason they don't just have it all there.
00:03:50
tommy cresta
The critic consensus is resurrecting Charlie Cox's Daredevil with his virtues intact, namely Vincent D'Onofrio as his terrifying adversary born against an ambitious and at times and ungainly crime saga that marks a mature tonal shift for the MCU.
00:04:05
tommy cresta
Definitely a tonal shift from everything else we out of this universe.
00:04:06
Ryan
Yeah, for sure.
00:04:10
Ryan
Yeah. even Even just saying like, oh it's rated r it's you know It doesn't feel super rated R so far. I think we're goingnna we're going to get there eventually with Muse coming in.
00:04:21
Ryan
um But it's just like like you said, just the tone of it. Not even just – it just feels different. It feels like Daredevil still, which is great.
00:04:32
tommy cresta
Yeah, I, I said my, I had my notes because I really only had things, bad things to say about the first episode. It was like where all of my problems lied. So far, I really liked two, I liked three, and I really liked four.
00:04:41
Ryan
What?
00:04:45
tommy cresta
I really liked the end of four.
00:04:47
Ryan
Yeah.
00:04:48
tommy cresta
um So it opens up with, there's going to be spoilers just so everyone knows if you're listening. This episode came out, we're getting right into this.
00:04:54
Ryan
Yeah, we're getting right into it, dude. We're getting right into it.
00:04:56
Ryan
When Thanos came through, just molly whop foggy.
00:04:56
tommy cresta
So Thanos came to that hole and just snapped.
00:05:00
tommy cresta
and Charlie Cox he fixed Charlie Cox's blindness is pretty cool Nate lost it again who was kind of unfair but um yeah it starts off with a nice like one take with daredevil well they're at a bar foggy Karen daredevil on that and eventually we find out the foggy's been holding out one of their guys keeping them safe and bullseye shows up starts causing chaos
00:05:04
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:26
tommy cresta
Dicing people up with knives. Pool balls. Whatever this man can get his hands on. Dude was a menace.
00:05:31
Ryan
There was a menace.
00:05:34
tommy cresta
And it was. I. Someone called me. My phone fell.
00:05:39
Ryan
That's great.
00:05:39
tommy cresta
um
00:05:40
Ryan
Do you need to take it?
00:05:41
tommy cresta
No.
00:05:42
Ryan
Okay.
00:05:42
tommy cresta
It was a potential spam.
00:05:44
Ryan
Now perfect.
00:05:46
tommy cresta
And yeah. I thought the episode. i was excited to see Bullseye. As soon as they showed the symbol in his hand. When he's fixing the light bulb. But all in all, I felt like this the fight was kind of lackluster until it got into the apartment.
00:06:00
Ryan
Yeah.
00:06:01
tommy cresta
Which i I don't know. Did they overlay two scenes together? Is that why it looks like that?
00:06:08
Ryan
I don't know. I mean, it i think everybody kind of agreed. Like, it was a little glossy. The CGI wasn't the best. But I think, like, as far as the choreography goes, it still kept that, like, Daredevil feeling. Like...
00:06:20
Ryan
He's very acrobatic and just throws fucking hands. But he also, when he gets hit, he gets hit. Like, he doesn't just tank shots. He's like, oh, fuck. He falls over and shit. It's great. But the CGI in it definitely wasn't the best.
00:06:33
Ryan
it I think you might be right. Like, they they filmed the fight scene and then they filmed, like, everybody else running out of the building into the building separately and just kind of overlaid them. That could be what happened. But I do agree that once they got, like, up the stairs in the building, then it got it really good.
00:06:49
tommy cresta
Yeah, like found his like stride.
00:06:51
Ryan
Yeah.
00:06:51
tommy cresta
And even though i didn't like the shot, which I know a lot people did, I didn't like when he was swinging and he like landed in front the church. Dope picture once he stopped moving.
00:07:00
Ryan
who
00:07:00
tommy cresta
But the CGI of him and how he hit the wall and lands, it looks very click, click.
00:07:05
Ryan
yeah
00:07:05
tommy cresta
Instead like a smooth drop down. i always say, i don't know why I find it so weird when he's swinging because Daredevil does do that. But in my head, I'm just like, this blind dude is just swinging around the city. This dude.
00:07:16
tommy cresta
Like it's, but it was really cool. Once I actually saw like when they actually did a real stunt at the end, when he actually lands, it shouldn't like swing and off the side of the building and land in. That was pretty cool.
00:07:26
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:28
tommy cresta
But yeah, I liked the, like what were you were saying, like when he gets punched, he actually takes like, he's getting beat up. And I like how tired both of them are throughout the fight. Like they stopped, they're like leaning against the wall. You can hear him breathing and then punch, punch, punch, stop, punch, punch.
00:07:39
Ryan
Yeah.
00:07:41
tommy cresta
but So I like really liked all that part of it. And
00:07:45
Ryan
And they both get stabbed like 10 times each. He's just wing and knives in this dude.
00:07:50
tommy cresta
He's breaking knives off inside of him. I'm like, oh.
00:07:52
Ryan
Yeah.
00:07:53
tommy cresta
Oh, my volume might be a little high on my TV. I'm rewatching the first episode while we're talking about.
00:07:57
Ryan
ah
00:07:59
tommy cresta
And then Bullseye, before they the fight actually starts, he takes out the homie. Drops Foggy like a bad habit.
00:08:06
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, I saw like an interview with Charlie Cox saying like, you know, it sucks that he had to die. But also when you're restarting a TV show like this, a TV show that a lot of people like, you need to take swings.
00:08:20
Ryan
Like you can't just say like, you know, slowly get into it. You gotta, you gotta make your fucking mark. so It sucks that Foggy had to go, but you know for what the show seems to be doing with it, I think it would it may have been the right call.
00:08:35
tommy cresta
No, I saw, like, I didn't know what
Character Growth and Kingpin Speculations
00:08:37
tommy cresta
I thought about the idea of them doing it at first, like, when the first happened. Like, i was like, oh, shit, like, that was, that was crazy that they did that. it was, like, some shock value for the show. But I was like, oh, my, is this actually going to go anywhere? Is this goingnna be the whole show? Is him trying to just take down Bullseye now because Bullseye killed his friend?
00:08:52
tommy cresta
Well, we quickly learned that that's not what's happening in the show.
00:08:55
Ryan
Yeah, but I think it's it's more impactful because it's just the show becomes him dealing with Foggy's death.
00:08:56
tommy cresta
Um.
00:09:02
Ryan
Like he gives up being Daredevil and then we'll get to episode four and that's where it really starts to like come to a head of like him not being able to accept it, that it wasn't his fault and that, you know. He still blames himself for it. So it becomes much more like a character driving thing than just like, oh, Bullseye killed my friend. I have to hurt Bullseye now.
00:09:21
Ryan
Like, I think that's more important to Daredevil that, you know, it's a character moment for him.
00:09:27
tommy cresta
Yeah, which i I now going after episode what we'll talk about what what happens in episode four. It it made me like super invested in what's going to happen the rest of the series. It's it eight episodes.
00:09:39
Ryan
ah I think it might be. might be a little longer.
00:09:43
tommy cresta
Remember originally, it's gonna be 24. Don't
00:09:45
Ryan
Yeah.
00:09:48
tommy cresta
get me wrong, I would have taken 24 hours of Daredevil.
00:09:53
tommy cresta
Oh, there goes Bullseye dropping civilians. are're just standing in the corner with cue balls.
00:09:59
Ryan
Yeah.
00:10:02
tommy cresta
But yeah, i I thought the suit looked fucking awesome too. I like that they saturated the red more.
00:10:08
Ryan
yeah
00:10:09
tommy cresta
Again, I'm a huge, the comic suits. So like I want the two D's on the chest and everything. And Bullseye looked pretty dope.
00:10:16
Ryan
Yeah, I mean, that'd be cool, but...
00:10:17
tommy cresta
Oh,
00:10:18
Ryan
Oh, Bullseye looked awesome. For sure.
00:10:21
tommy cresta
they're in the apartment. This where things go. Dude, Bullseye really drops that dude at the top of the steps for no reason.
00:10:27
Ryan
He was just there.
00:10:28
tommy cresta
the Dude's like, hey, man, you got to get out of here. Throwing knife.
00:10:32
Ryan
Yeah.
00:10:32
tommy cresta
Gets the top stairs. The woman's like, no, please. And he lay uppercuts the living shit out of that woman for no other reason but because he wants to.
00:10:41
Ryan
Yeah.
00:10:43
tommy cresta
And then that scene with the lights was pretty cool.
00:10:44
Ryan
All right.
00:10:45
tommy cresta
and He takes out the light with the baton.
00:10:47
Ryan
Yeah. No, it was really cool. um All right. So Wikipedia is saying eight episodes. Forbes is saying nine. The original length was 18, not 24. But.
00:11:00
Ryan
Yeah.
00:11:02
Ryan
So I don't know.
00:11:02
tommy cresta
I would.
00:11:02
Ryan
Eight or nine episodes.
00:11:04
Ryan
Hopefully nine. Mm
00:11:04
tommy cresta
Or 18.
00:11:06
tommy cresta
Just surprise us and make it like 12.
00:11:09
Ryan
hmm.
00:11:10
tommy cresta
went It's so funny when Daredevil just stand there for say it looks out the window like to hear Foggy's heartbeat, which also really cool decision to have the way they're doing is hearing in this.
00:11:19
Ryan
Yeah.
00:11:19
tommy cresta
Like when it zooms in and all that.
00:11:20
Ryan
I mean,
00:11:21
tommy cresta
ah i'm ah I'm a big fan of all that.
00:11:23
Ryan
yeah.
00:11:24
Ryan
I kind of like how they do trust the audience a little bit with just like hearing like, cause this is, I know it's the first episode of a technically new show, but realistically the fourth season of Daredevil.
00:11:24
tommy cresta
But.
00:11:35
Ryan
um I think the audience should understand the powers little bit. Like even when he's trying to figure out if somebody's lying or telling the truth, you just hear the heartbeat. They don't hold your hand at all.
00:11:45
Ryan
You know what I mean?
00:11:46
tommy cresta
Yeah, they don't tell you what's happening.
00:11:46
Ryan
I like that a lot.
00:11:48
tommy cresta
It's not like him giving an internal dialogue what he's doing.
00:11:50
Ryan
Yeah, like they could have shown from the Netflix show when it would go like, you know, the the world on fire type of view where he like sees it.
00:11:56
tommy cresta
Yeah, like how he sees things.
00:11:57
Ryan
I do think that's cool. I never hated that, but I do like that you just hear the heartbeat. They kind of trust the audience a little more. They don't need to flat out show it somehow.
00:12:05
tommy cresta
I'm fully in a grant. I never hated the idea of like the world on fire, how he sees him, but I do like the idea of more of just hearing the heart. Like how, how I think in my iteration of what I think of daredevil, I don't think of I just think of him being blind and like the sonar kind of style.
00:12:18
Ryan
Yeah.
00:12:19
tommy cresta
We just, that's how I've always thought of him. So it's cool. I like that. They don't like what you're saying They don't hold your hand. You're kind of right in it. I mean, it starts at the whole season starts with this one take fight scene. Dude, he pumbles bullseye though on the top of that roof.
00:12:33
Ryan
Yeah, he tries to fucking kill him.
00:12:35
tommy cresta
That's the memes that have come out of that. Him throwing them off the roof have been so funny. But yeah, that they they do the hard thing again or not again.
00:12:48
tommy cresta
When they do it in the fourth episode with the cop about like seeing if he's lying and you figure out that he's not lying.
00:12:51
Ryan
Yeah.
00:12:56
tommy cresta
was like, oh shit. Like, where is this going to? So you want to keep talking about episode one? We just want to talk about it in total. Just kind of like.
00:13:02
Ryan
I think just go in total. Just move around.
00:13:04
tommy cresta
All right. Because I was going to say that. So do you think Kingpin is sending the Punisher guys out?
00:13:12
Ryan
I don't know. i mean... It's definitely possible. Because you see, at the end of episode 4... You see that Kingpin hasn't totally turned the new leaf. Like, he's still got um Adam just fucking locked up in a basement.
00:13:28
Ryan
I mean... So, I think it's possible... But I also, I don't know. I don't think that's really his style. I don't know.
00:13:39
tommy cresta
Yeah, I know because I feel like I don't know who's going say it's not Muse. That's not Muse's thing. He just wants to kill people.
00:13:47
Ryan
No. It's definitely not Muse.
00:13:49
tommy cresta
And it's not Jon Bernthal.
00:13:52
Ryan
No. And it's not the cops, so.
00:13:54
tommy cresta
It's not that cop, at least.
00:13:54
Ryan
don't know.
00:13:55
tommy cresta
Maybe there's someone in charge of it.
00:13:56
Ryan
Yeah.
00:13:57
tommy cresta
Oh, is what's his name dead from Punisher? Did he die in Punisher season two? His friend.
00:14:01
Ryan
Who?
00:14:03
Ryan
Oh, I don't think um don't think he was in season... I think he may have died in season one.
00:14:08
tommy cresta
Does he kill him in the end of season? in some reason I thought he gets arrested in season one.
00:14:12
Ryan
I think something happens in season one.
00:14:12
tommy cresta
And then he starts wearing the mask and stuff in season two.
00:14:13
Ryan
and Is he in season two? I haven't watched Punisher in forever.
00:14:18
tommy cresta
I only watched like two episodes season two. I didn't ever watch it. My dad was a big fan it though.
00:14:23
Ryan
Yeah, it wasn't bad at all. The one villain, the fucking um priest guy, that dude was scary.
00:14:28
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:14:31
tommy cresta
Oh, and the cop the cop retiring, finding out that he's it's Matt Murdock. I really like that whole little intertwining it.
00:14:38
Ryan
Oh, yeah.
00:14:39
tommy cresta
I was happy it wasn't just him giving up the suit.
00:14:45
tommy cresta
And Bullseye gets dropped off that roof and lives. God damn it. Think he's escaping.
New Characters and Storylines in Daredevil
00:14:52
Ryan
I don't know if he will this season. i think I think they're kind of done with that. and I think it was just like... you know Because again, i like I said earlier, I think Foggy's death was more than just like a catalyst for who he's going to fight. I think it was an important...
00:15:06
Ryan
character thing so i think i think they're probably done with bullseye for now i think you know it's bullseye it's it like his main villain so he'll for sure show up again but i don't know gonna happen in this season
00:15:18
tommy cresta
Oh, I did not like the hat helmet falling.
00:15:22
tommy cresta
and That's a weird thing. Like the slow-mo of the...
00:15:24
Ryan
oh like it goes into the intro yeah
00:15:25
tommy cresta
Yeah, I like the intro. It's a weird little picky thing, but it's a weird thing. Do you like this intro more than the Daredevil intro?
00:15:36
Ryan
No, I love the Daredevil intro.
00:15:36
tommy cresta
Okay, agreed. I like the other intro.
00:15:38
Ryan
Yeah.
00:15:38
tommy cresta
I think the blood, well, wax, blood, whatever you want to say it is.
00:15:41
Ryan
Yeah. I just think it's classic, like, to me.
00:15:44
tommy cresta
So cool.
00:15:45
Ryan
Yeah, it's just cool looking.
00:15:47
tommy cresta
But yeah, then we get to, we get our first, get to see Kingpin again, which is always cool. Vincent D'Onofrio, dude's amazing as Kingpin.
00:15:56
Ryan
Yeah.
00:15:57
tommy cresta
And I like that they're kind of doing a, they're doing the Kingpin becoming mayor storyline. I always really liked all that in the comics.
00:16:02
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:16:05
tommy cresta
But I like that there's parts of him that does, he wants to help the city.
00:16:06
Ryan
yeah
00:16:11
tommy cresta
Like, quote unquote, help the city, but.
00:16:11
Ryan
I mean, i think he does, but I think he also, it's like before where he was like, you know, his dad wanted to help the city, but his dad was also not the best guy, you know?
00:16:23
Ryan
So I think there's still a level of control that he wants, but I think he does want to protect the city, but it's how he's going to do it is the the issue. Because he's still going beat Kingpin to an extent.
00:16:37
tommy cresta
Oh, I thought you were going to continue.
00:16:38
Ryan
no
00:16:38
tommy cresta
um
00:16:39
Ryan
Yeah.
00:16:40
tommy cresta
So people were, I was watching like a whole thing about people think that. So remember they were doing the reshoots and stuff and they're like, the show's not what it was originally going to be. We're changing it up. We didn't like where it was going.
00:16:52
tommy cresta
People think that the only difference, like someone came out that worked on the show that they were like, the only difference is that first episode is like that first scene.
00:16:52
Ryan
yeah
00:17:02
Ryan
really
00:17:02
tommy cresta
but i was But then that doesn't make any sense because the whole show follows Foggy's death kind of. like it's That's the overarching issue so far.
00:17:07
Ryan
yeah
00:17:09
Ryan
Yeah.
00:17:09
tommy cresta
That he's trying to find himself. but And this episode 4 got me so excited for the rest of the season. there That last like 5 minutes.
00:17:19
Ryan
Yeah, it was cool.
00:17:20
tommy cresta
o I need him to wear that black suit with the red eyes with the red D on his chest. We're not getting it but would love to see it.
00:17:30
Ryan
Yeah, no, it'd be cool. I did like the scene of him walking into the the little room with just all of his masks and shit. Like, it's just, he's such, I just don't, it's so weird because I never think of this version of Daredevil, or really any version that I know of, to just have like a layer like that.
00:17:48
Ryan
But he just walks in, they're just all there.
00:17:50
Ryan
I don't know.
00:17:50
tommy cresta
but just hanging out.
00:17:51
Ryan
Yeah.
00:17:51
tommy cresta
who
00:17:52
tommy cresta
When did he get these suits?
00:17:54
Ryan
I don't know. We saw the yellow one in She-Hulk, and then that was it. I don't know.
00:17:58
Ryan
He's had one. No, i don't I didn't like the yellow one.
00:17:58
tommy cresta
Don't put that shit back on.
00:18:01
tommy cresta
It was cool. like I was just excited to see because it's so comic book. like It's the original suit.
00:18:06
Ryan
Yeah.
00:18:07
tommy cresta
But it looked so bad in live action.
00:18:10
Ryan
Yeah, it didn't look great.
00:18:11
tommy cresta
but the like The black one's cool. There's the gray and red. There's the gray, black, and red. There's a lot of cool ones that are still... But I want him to wear full red. I don't want any black in the suit.
00:18:23
tommy cresta
I want all red. That's my only wish.
00:18:27
tommy cresta
Come on. Disney, please. Give me the red suit.
00:18:32
Ryan
We're getting some black in there.
00:18:33
tommy cresta
We are getting black in there.
00:18:34
Ryan
It's just cool looking.
00:18:36
tommy cresta
Ew. Why is Kingpin's chicken bubbling? Ew.
00:18:41
Ryan
It's cooking.
00:18:42
tommy cresta
Dude, that meal is disgusting. Just cheese on chicken with a piece of asparagus. This man is back to eating this pasta and sausage.
00:18:52
Ryan
Yeah.
00:18:52
tommy cresta
Full Italian style.
00:18:56
tommy cresta
But, who else are some of the new characters we can talk about? Oh, there's Daredevil's new love interest. um Heather.
00:19:03
Ryan
Oh yeah, Heather. I i like her.
00:19:05
tommy cresta
Yeah, I have nothing against her.
00:19:06
Ryan
Yeah.
00:19:07
tommy cresta
Then we get Vanessa's back, of course.
00:19:07
Ryan
Seems nice.
00:19:10
Ryan
Vanessa. Yeah. I'm happy they made her an actual character now. She's not just standing there saying nothing.
00:19:15
tommy cresta
Vanessa.
00:19:16
Ryan
Yeah. No, I do really like her actually this season. Cause like just the intro of her knowing that she just controlled the, you know, Kingpin stuff while he was away, quote unquote away.
00:19:29
Ryan
Like it, I'm glad they made her important. She's not just sitting in the back watching him get it, getting his ass kicked. You know what i mean? So um I'm very happy they gave her something to do and she's, she's done well with It's been a good character so far.
00:19:42
tommy cresta
Yeah. And then there was, um, Kamar De Los Reyes, who played White Tire, who sadly passed away.
00:19:49
Ryan
Mm hmm.
00:19:50
tommy cresta
Um...
00:19:51
Ryan
Also, he passed away in 2023, which is...
00:19:51
tommy cresta
But what...
00:19:54
Ryan
You just think about how long this show ah took to make.
00:19:54
tommy cresta
Which is crazy.
00:19:59
Ryan
I mean, it's crazy.
00:20:00
tommy cresta
And I really... I did like seeing him. I thought his storyline was really cool. Like the idea of...
00:20:04
Ryan
Oh, yeah. it was a great episode.
00:20:05
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:20:05
Ryan
The whole... Yeah, episode three, the whole court stuff was really, really good.
00:20:09
tommy cresta
With an amazing ending.
00:20:10
Ryan
But it is... Yeah. No, it was kind of shocking. But... Also, I was kind of excited because I was like, okay, we're getting his his niece coming in.
00:20:21
Ryan
Because that's the white tiger I know is the...
00:20:23
tommy cresta
The girl.
00:20:23
Ryan
i Fuck. Yeah, I forget her name already.
00:20:26
tommy cresta
um
00:20:26
Ryan
um But yeah, as soon as he got shot, and I was like, all right, she's coming eventually. And then the beginning of season four, we see her. So, yeah.
00:20:36
tommy cresta
Oh. i thought some reason in season 4 thought you meant Netflix version.
00:20:38
Ryan
Oh, episode four, sorry.
00:20:39
tommy cresta
I was like huh?
00:20:40
Ryan
Episode four.
00:20:40
tommy cresta
um Oh how about the fact that Michael Gandolfini is in this. And the kid who plays Tony Spratt's son is in the movie. The Ben Affleck movie.
00:20:51
Ryan
Is he? Huh.
00:20:51
tommy cresta
Yeah. He's the bully.
00:20:55
tommy cresta
Great movie.
00:20:56
Ryan
That's wonderful. Yeah, Gandolfini's done well, too.
00:21:00
tommy cresta
Yeah, I like his character. I liked his scene in episode four.
00:21:03
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:21:03
tommy cresta
With him and Kingpin.
00:21:05
Ryan
Yeah.
00:21:05
tommy cresta
All him in.
00:21:05
Ryan
why Why do you think Kingpin kept hit him or him around?
00:21:08
tommy cresta
Reminds him of himself. He's an honest person.
00:21:10
Ryan
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Well...
00:21:13
tommy cresta
Well, Kingpin's not honest, but he was being honest. And I think that Kingpin just had all that marriage counseling stuff.
00:21:15
Ryan
Yeah.
00:21:18
tommy cresta
That he, like, knows where he's coming from. but he's like, if you do that again, I promise you it'll be the last thing you ever do.
00:21:25
Ryan
Yeah, yeah, No, i think I think you're right. I think he sees something. like He sees like another hungry kid who wants more for himself, and I think he's like, yeah, I'll keep this guy around.
00:21:35
tommy cresta
Good kid.
00:21:36
Ryan
Yeah.
00:21:37
tommy cresta
oh And yeah, Vincent D'Onoff, which already talked about. ah We finally got to see Jon Bernthal in episode four. Ooh, Jack, what's it called? It's going to be in this, it says.
00:21:51
tommy cresta
The guy that was in Hawkeye.
00:21:54
Ryan
Oh, the swordsman?
00:21:55
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:21:56
Ryan
Alright.
00:21:58
tommy cresta
I liked him in Hawkeye.
00:21:58
Ryan
Sweet. Yeah, no, he was fun.
00:22:01
tommy cresta
He's so scary in Better Call Saul.
00:22:04
Ryan
Yeah.
00:22:05
tommy cresta
I didn't watch the show.
00:22:05
Ryan
Lalo.
00:22:05
tommy cresta
I just only seen episodes and every time he scares me.
00:22:08
Ryan
Lalo, so, he's a great character.
00:22:10
tommy cresta
I didn't watch that show.
00:22:11
Ryan
He's very good.
00:22:13
tommy cresta
But yeah, that, the death of white tiger is one of my, i think was a great, not just shock. It was just a great scene. Like the speech that Kingpin's giving over all of it.
00:22:24
Ryan
Yeah.
00:22:24
tommy cresta
And then just how quick it is. They don't, they don't overdo it. And he doesn't, I was kind of, i was like, Oh, he's going to shoot him again. And he just doesn't just looks at him, walks away.
00:22:33
Ryan
yeah it was it was kind of funny though to be like this the amulet gives me all the power and it zooms in on the amulet and then he just just one shot and you're like fuck not that powerful yeah
00:22:33
tommy cresta
And it was,
00:22:43
tommy cresta
you Like, that amulet didn't do shit. um And then the Holstein...
00:22:48
Ryan
but i think it just kind of shows like in this world of the mcu quote unquote like
00:22:48
tommy cresta
Oh, I'm sorry. Continue.
00:22:55
Ryan
This isn't Iron Man where you can just tank shots. You get hit once in the wrong spot and you're done. like You gotta keep your head around on a swivel, man.
00:23:03
tommy cresta
This dude... Do you think he made his suit and his wife was just watching him make the white tiger suit? Like, what the fuck are you doing?
00:23:09
Ryan
Yeah.
00:23:11
tommy cresta
Like, because his wife doesn't like that he does it.
00:23:11
Ryan
Honey, I have this amulet. Yeah, no. I have this amulet.
00:23:17
tommy cresta
gives me power but yeah his court the whole his still arc with this the the courtroom the actual scene when the cop dies all that was really cool and a scene that i didn't like at first but I liked when I was like later on while watching was the whole storyline with the prisoner that Matt's now taking ah he's doing the court case with the guy who stole because at first I was like he's like I don't know why this keeps happening I was like well
00:23:18
Ryan
Makes me strong.
00:23:40
Ryan
Oh, yeah.
00:23:45
tommy cresta
Maybe stop stealing. so But then he was like explaining it. I was like like damn.
00:23:51
Ryan
Yeah, he's like, i the line where he said, they're spending more money to put me in jail than to feed me.
00:23:52
tommy cresta
I get it.
00:23:56
Ryan
I was like, oh, fuck.
00:23:57
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:23:58
Ryan
He's right.
00:23:58
tommy cresta
I was like fuck man.
00:23:58
Ryan
Yeah.
00:23:59
tommy cresta
That's little dark.
00:24:01
Ryan
Yeah.
00:24:01
tommy cresta
But yeah I like that scene. I like that Matt kind of snaps too. In that scene he's like yelling back at at first. But yeah, that was but I think Charlie Cox is um he's the perfect Daredevil.
00:24:07
Ryan
yeah
00:24:10
tommy cresta
He's the perfect Matt Murdock. The way he does his eyes and everything, everything about his a character and his performance is so good.
00:24:18
Ryan
Yeah. But I will say about that dude who stole the, um when he's explaining like ah all, I just, I stole caramel corn because I just wanted to taste something good for once.
Daredevil and Punisher's Moral Conflict
00:24:28
Ryan
And was like, I just stole a bag of caramel corn.
00:24:30
Ryan
Why am I going to jail for a bag of caramel corn? And I was like, you stole five bags of caramel corn.
00:24:36
tommy cresta
Yeah, it wasn't one.
00:24:37
Ryan
Like it's a little different. I'm not saying you should go to prison for a month, but you know, It wasn't just one.
00:24:45
tommy cresta
He's like, I got good news.
00:24:45
Ryan
You got a little greedy. You weren't just hungry.
00:24:47
tommy cresta
It's only 10 days. 10 days.
00:24:49
Ryan
Yeah. Ten days. You wanted that probation.
00:24:53
tommy cresta
He did want that. There's no probation.
00:24:55
Ryan
There's no probation. You're not. If it's your. What was it? What did they say? It was like his 11th charge.
00:25:01
tommy cresta
No, it's like it's 20 something.
00:25:01
Ryan
12th. No.
00:25:03
tommy cresta
I thought.
00:25:03
Ryan
don't remember.
00:25:05
tommy cresta
because they said Or maybe it was like 20 years of crime or something.
00:25:05
Ryan
I don't know.
00:25:09
Ryan
I don't know.
00:25:09
tommy cresta
It was a lot of stuff. But...
00:25:11
Ryan
But you don't get probation anymore after that.
00:25:12
tommy cresta
No, you're you're not getting probation after that. I like the girl that works with... Daredevil. With the Matt McDuffie. Kristen. Good little character.
00:25:24
Ryan
Yeah.
00:25:25
tommy cresta
Sheila. um Kingpin's like assistant. Who helps him with all of his mayor duties.
00:25:30
Ryan
Yeah.
00:25:31
tommy cresta
I like him.
00:25:32
Ryan
She's been good.
00:25:33
tommy cresta
Ooh, the scene in the courtroom when Matt gives that speech to Bullseye about Foggy and about the incident.
00:25:40
Ryan
Yeah.
00:25:41
tommy cresta
Great scene.
00:25:42
Ryan
Yeah, I want to know more about that, um the British dude with Fisk, too.
00:25:42
tommy cresta
um
00:25:45
tommy cresta
Oh, yeah.
00:25:46
Ryan
The guy who's kind of like, he's clearly a criminal.
00:25:46
tommy cresta
too
00:25:49
Ryan
Just like, to what extent, though? Because he's doing all the dealings of like, talking to the mobsters and stuff for Fisk.
00:25:55
tommy cresta
Buck Cashman.
00:25:55
Ryan
I just, I don't know. He's a very mysterious gentleman to me.
00:26:00
Ryan
And also a British, for some reason. Just like, imported and some dude over here to just handle shit.
00:26:08
tommy cresta
He was an agent of the ah United States government who performed covert act activities. In the comics.
00:26:14
Ryan
What?
00:26:15
tommy cresta
That's what...
00:26:15
Ryan
and Okay.
00:26:16
tommy cresta
Fuck Cashman, yeah.
00:26:17
Ryan
okay
00:26:19
tommy cresta
But he also...
00:26:19
Ryan
Why is he British?
00:26:20
tommy cresta
i don't know, maybe they're not fucked. Because in the comics, he lady has like long hair and a receding hairline in the front. And just a big ol' goatee.
00:26:27
Ryan
Wait, why is he British? Because the actor was born in Connecticut.
00:26:32
tommy cresta
Oh no, the du I thought the dude was British though when he talked.
00:26:33
Ryan
Nationality American-British. Alright, maybe he was born there and grew up in Britain.
00:26:36
tommy cresta
Hmm.
00:26:39
tommy cresta
Or his mom or someone was British.
00:26:40
Ryan
I don't fucking... It doesn't really matter, but...
00:26:44
Ryan
I want to know more about that guy because he just pops in and says some wild shit. You're like, what? it Why do you care? You know, he's a bad dude. He's a bad dude who's going to do bad things, but I don't know when he's going snap.
00:26:57
tommy cresta
I want to see more Wilson Bethel as Bullseye. It's one my favorite villains.
00:27:00
Ryan
Yeah, he is good. It's
00:27:03
tommy cresta
Like in all of superheroes.
00:27:05
Ryan
bullseye.
00:27:06
tommy cresta
Like no. Like him as Bullseye.
00:27:06
Ryan
You like Colin Farrell?
00:27:07
tommy cresta
Not as No, that's the one thing I don't like about that movie. And I'm a big supporter of that Daredevil movie. I'm a big fan of the Director's Cut. I'm looking right at you, people watching. You. Go watch the Director's Cut.
00:27:18
tommy cresta
It's only on... It's only on Vivi. Vivio? Vizio? One of those things.
00:27:23
Ryan
i don't
00:27:25
tommy cresta
But it's rated R. It's pretty cool.
00:27:29
tommy cresta
Ryan does not agree.
00:27:29
Ryan
Great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. you don't. like You don't like when he goes like... just like gives a little chuckle. You don't like that? don't like Colin Farrell?
00:27:38
tommy cresta
I do like when he kills the old woman in the bar. On the plane, I mean.
00:27:42
Ryan
Oh, yeah.
00:27:42
tommy cresta
Makes her choke on the one.
00:27:43
Ryan
Chuck's a peanut. yeah
00:27:44
tommy cresta
It's so funny.
00:27:45
Ryan
Or the old dude with the fucking paperclips right in the throat.
00:27:48
tommy cresta
Dude, there are some good ones like that. That movie's so hokey.
00:27:50
Ryan
He's a menace.
00:27:51
tommy cresta
But I love... um um
00:27:55
tommy cresta
What's his name? Green Mile. Michael Duncan?
00:27:59
Ryan
Yeah, Michael Clark Duncan.
00:28:00
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:28:00
Ryan
Or Michael Duncan Clark. Shit.
00:28:02
tommy cresta
I think it's Clark Duncan.
00:28:03
Ryan
order I think you're right.
00:28:05
tommy cresta
But i I always loved him as Kingpin. I didn't think he had anything he did was wrong with the movie. The movie has a lot of issues. That's not one of them. He was cool.
00:28:13
Ryan
Yeah, i mean, you just got the biggest dude at the time to play Kingpin. that' That's fine.
00:28:17
tommy cresta
he's He is so big. And Ben Affleck's a big dude. And Ben Affleck's tiny next to him.
00:28:22
Ryan
Yeah.
00:28:23
tommy cresta
um And your boy's foggy.
00:28:27
Ryan
Oh, um...
00:28:28
tommy cresta
Jon Favreau, baby.
00:28:29
Ryan
Yeah, Fabro. He is foggy. Then he pours the mustard in his coffee.
00:28:34
tommy cresta
Then there's um there's no fight scene.
00:28:35
Ryan
well While Daredevil smells a hot lady walking into the coffee shop.
00:28:40
tommy cresta
There's no playground scene.
00:28:40
Ryan
He just sniffs.
00:28:42
tommy cresta
In the director's there's no playground scene or sex scene.
00:28:42
Ryan
Oh, great.
00:28:44
tommy cresta
So they cut out some of the stupid romance stuff.
00:28:46
Ryan
yeah Is there still evanescence for the training scene?
00:28:49
tommy cresta
Dude, that shit is awesome. It's not a training scene. It's suit-up scene.
00:28:53
Ryan
Whatever, dude. No, she's hitting the bags. It's training.
00:28:56
tommy cresta
Oh, it is. a I'm thinking of Daredevil because that's when he's putting the thing in his. There's also song by Fuel in there. For those don't know, Fuel is one of my favorite bands.
00:29:04
Ryan
Oh, wow. That's great.
00:29:07
tommy cresta
You're just talking shit.
00:29:07
Ryan
Yeah, I am. Yeah. i
00:29:10
tommy cresta
um Well, I think the big thing that I want to talk about is Punisher and that whole Punisher group that they're now kind of going have to fight up against.
00:29:22
tommy cresta
So we saw when all the pictures were coming out, the set photos that they were releasing, we see the picture of them walking together.
00:29:22
Ryan
Yeah.
00:29:29
tommy cresta
Daredevil, Punisher, walking up. What do you think gets Punisher and him to work together? Finally.
00:29:35
Ryan
I mean, I think it's going to be... i think the Punisher... i mean, the Punisher calls them fanboys. So I think it's going to be those guys do something. And they might get blamed on Punisher. And then he's like, alright, I got to go out and kill these motherfuckers to... You know.
00:29:50
tommy cresta
I gotta clear my name.
00:29:51
Ryan
Yeah, exactly. I feel like that's going to be it. Or, and don't know, Muse does something crazy. Who knows? know. I feel like Muse is just going to be Daredevil.
00:30:02
tommy cresta
I think Muse is gonna kill his girlfriend.
00:30:02
Ryan
don't think Punisher is going to care too much.
00:30:05
Ryan
It's possible.
00:30:07
tommy cresta
Cause he was he met her each they've already met in the show.
00:30:10
Ryan
Yeah, yeah, it was that kid.
00:30:12
tommy cresta
It's a kid from Wednesday.
00:30:13
Ryan
Yeah.
00:30:15
tommy cresta
Who's first off great Wednesday so excited to see him season two.
00:30:18
Ryan
Yeah,
00:30:18
tommy cresta
Um But yeah, i I really liked him. I like him in Wednesday and I like him. He's a psychopath in that. So I mean, he's just gonna be turning it up to a different level from Muse and watching just suck the blood out of the dude.
00:30:30
Ryan
yeah that was good. Yeah.
00:30:30
tommy cresta
And you just see him like shaking and breathing heavy.
00:30:35
tommy cresta
ah
00:30:36
Ryan
I love seeing the art. I can't wait for my dad to watch this and be like, who the hell is that guy? I'm like, he's an artist.
00:30:41
tommy cresta
He's a painter.
00:30:42
Ryan
Yeah, that's all he does. He cares. He's multi-talented. Uh-huh.
00:30:47
tommy cresta
Multi-talented is a wild thing to say about Muse. um What was But yeah, that whole scene with the Punisher, i said to my dad, my dad doesn't watch the episode, I said that was one of my, that's one my favorite scenes in Daredevil now.
00:31:03
tommy cresta
Like the scene between the two of them, like all Netflix and stuff. I just liked the whole conversation. liked the, what? Jon Bernthal's Punisher gets out of like the anger and stuff he can get out of Matt Murdock.
00:31:16
Ryan
Yeah.
00:31:17
tommy cresta
It's always so good. That scene on the roof was that season two Daredevil.
00:31:20
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah. Season two.
00:31:22
tommy cresta
Best scene now that that's connected the MCU to me. In my head at least it's canon. um That's the best one of the best scenes in MCU.
00:31:30
Ryan
Yeah.
00:31:31
tommy cresta
I think their writing is just really good together.
00:31:34
Ryan
Yeah, because they balance off each other very well because they they both think so similarly. It's just that Daredevil has this – he's got this Catholic faith. He can't kill.
00:31:44
Ryan
well you know He tries to kill – not Daredevil, Bullseye, but that that's his rule. He doesn't kill, whereas Punisher is just the complete opposite. And they both enjoy it to an extent. They both have the same like.
00:31:58
Ryan
It feels like something they need to do. It feels like something that. you know it's been It's kind of. um but What's the word I'm looking for? Like it's their calling. I guess to an extent.
00:32:09
tommy cresta
Like their need.
00:32:09
Ryan
That's not the right word. Yeah like they need to do it. They both have that feeling. But it's just they have such different ways of going about it. That's why every scene they're in together. It's just so good. Because they can just bounce off each other.
00:32:22
tommy cresta
How many people Punisher killing in this season?
00:32:22
Ryan
They're just.
00:32:25
tommy cresta
Over under five.
00:32:25
Ryan
Oh, so many.
00:32:28
Ryan
Over under five?
00:32:29
tommy cresta
This season.
00:32:30
Ryan
the better be over.
00:32:32
tommy cresta
don't know. know how many people.
00:32:33
Ryan
If he kills less than five people, that's crazy.
00:32:36
tommy cresta
Okay, May 5 was low. 10. We'll do 10. Double it.
00:32:40
Ryan
think that's a decent line. I'm still going for the over.
00:32:44
tommy cresta
Taking the over.
00:32:45
Ryan
I'm assuming there's going to be one scene where like Daredevil's all fighting some guy. It's just like punching and Punisher just like goes through a fucking warehouse.
00:32:53
Ryan
Like.
00:32:53
tommy cresta
Just shooting everyone.
00:32:55
tommy cresta
Daredevil's fighting one guy the entire shootout. And just burn the bunch.
00:32:58
Ryan
Yeah.
00:32:59
tommy cresta
Just taking everyone out. I'm so excited for that special. The Punisher special.
00:33:04
Ryan
Yeah.
00:33:05
tommy cresta
id think it's be so much fun.
00:33:07
Ryan
It should be good.
00:33:08
tommy cresta
But yeah. they That scene was so good. Just him trying to get him to say Foggy's name. And they him eventually grabbing him.
00:33:13
Ryan
Mm hmm.
00:33:14
tommy cresta
And he's apologizing. And when he says what. He's like I think of my son. every He's like I hear my son every day. And that was that really broke my heart. That dude was really going through it. But I want a suit up scene with Punisher.
00:33:26
Ryan
Yeah, he lost.
00:33:27
tommy cresta
want him to like shave. Cutting his hair. Spray paint the suit.
00:33:31
Ryan
I think we're getting that.
00:33:33
tommy cresta
Oh. So good. I'm so excited for more Punisher.
00:33:35
Ryan
Yeah.
00:33:40
tommy cresta
But I was telling me and Sam were talking about like, yeah, I was watching it yesterday. And I was like, I was like, Daredevil and Punisher. i was like, I think maybe as a kid, like I just always liked them. I was like, but there's something even before the Netflix series. I was like, I've always liked Punisher and Daredevil more than Captain America, Iron Man.
00:33:55
tommy cresta
All the Avengers really accept Spider-Man.
Daredevil's Motivations and Future Predictions
00:33:58
Ryan
Yeah.
00:33:58
tommy cresta
because i was like, the Punisher's just murdering people. And he's got the the coolest symbol in all of the superheroes and em in Marvel, at least. And Daryl's a blind dude who's pretty much Batman.
00:34:11
tommy cresta
What's not cool about that?
00:34:11
Ryan
Yeah. He's Batman with zero money.
00:34:15
tommy cresta
Zero money and a lawyer.
00:34:17
Ryan
Yeah.
00:34:19
tommy cresta
And he can't see.
00:34:19
Ryan
Yeah. No, he's just... Yeah, he's the man without fear. Yeah. Daredevil is one of the coolest heroes because he's like, he is so grounded because his his powers, quote unquote, are just that his senses are better.
00:34:32
Ryan
And yeah yeah, he has some ninja training, but you know, it's not like he can fly or anything. He's just a fucking skilled dude who doesn't give a fuck. He's not scared of anything.
00:34:45
Ryan
And then he's a lawyer, so he doesn't kill people and then he just puts them in jail.
00:34:45
tommy cresta
man
00:34:49
Ryan
It's very cool.
00:34:50
tommy cresta
ah
00:34:50
Ryan
It's a great character.
00:34:52
tommy cresta
I just saw a scene from the 90's Spider-Man series. And it's Daredevil shows up. And he's like, I'll catch Kingpin and then Matt Murdock will take him down with the full extent of the law as a team.
00:35:03
tommy cresta
And Spider-Man's like, how'd you and Matt meet? And he's like, don't worry about that but under this mask he's a friend of a friend. And he just jumps off and swings away. And I was like, cool.
00:35:13
Ryan
Uh oh.
00:35:14
tommy cresta
Oh.
00:35:16
Ryan
I just turned my computer on by accident. I haven't turned that thing on like two months.
00:35:22
tommy cresta
Oh, yeah um you know.
00:35:23
Ryan
If it explodes, it explodes.
00:35:23
tommy cresta
m oh Oh, no, no. Shut up. So where do you think the show is going to go from here? What do we think are the next steps for the series?
00:35:36
tommy cresta
It's nine episodes also.
00:35:37
Ryan
Yeah. I mean, I think Daredevil's coming out. Like, Daredevil's gonna be back out on the streets sometime next episode. I don't think it's gonna be, like, immediate. I don't think we're gonna open up with him fucking swinging across rooftops. But I think maybe, like,
00:35:54
Ryan
last quarter or like the very end of the episode he's going to get back in the suit and then i mean i think the first thing that's going to happen is that he's going to fight like the cops and then somehow that's going to lead to muse coming out and then muse is going to be the ah final bad guy because i think i think so yeah because they're season two got confirmed right yeah
00:36:11
tommy cresta
Oh, so you think Mew's the big bad guy of this season?
00:36:17
tommy cresta
Yeah, and I think that's going to taking down Kingpin.
00:36:20
Ryan
Yeah. i Kingpin's going to keep being mayor. I don't think they're going to do anything with him this season. i think I think Muse is going to be the big bad for this season.
00:36:29
tommy cresta
Yeah, I think...
00:36:29
Ryan
know
00:36:31
tommy cresta
Because I think season... i think there's a chance season 2 Spider-Man shows up.
00:36:35
Ryan
It's possible.
00:36:36
tommy cresta
I think they have him maybe join him in the fight against Kingpin. Which, because I mean, everyone wants that.
00:36:39
Ryan
Yeah.
00:36:40
tommy cresta
all everyone or this, maybe the second season leads in the Spider-Man four or four leads into whatever they end up doing.
00:36:45
Ryan
Yeah, it could.
00:36:49
tommy cresta
But I think I'm in agreement with you. I think they're going to take down the cops. And I think that maybe he shows up like whole episodes like him kind of like you can tell he's not fully decided if he's going to be him.
00:37:00
tommy cresta
Daredevil again or not. And they just going to show up. There's not gonna be like a suit up or anything. He's just going to show up somewhere. Like kind of like out of the shadow coming, coming back.
00:37:07
Ryan
Yeah.
00:37:09
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:37:11
tommy cresta
Or maybe Punisher goes out first and he stops Punisher from killing someone.
00:37:15
Ryan
He could. Yeah.
00:37:17
Ryan
I don't know I don't know what... I mean, I think there might be a little thing.
00:37:17
tommy cresta
Do they fight you think at all?
00:37:22
Ryan
Because I think you're right. Punisher's going to go out and try to murder somebody, and he's going to be like, no, you can't do that. And he's like, argh! And just swinging. He just starts swinging.
00:37:22
tommy cresta
That's what mean, like a little like quick one.
00:37:33
tommy cresta
I love Punisher where it's just like...
00:37:35
Ryan
Yeah.
00:37:36
tommy cresta
Doesn't make real noises, just growls.
00:37:37
Ryan
He's a fucking ape. No, he's an animal, dude.
00:37:42
tommy cresta
ah You should just go out with the long hair and the beard. Just go out and just go for it. You should wear the Punisher mask.
00:37:47
Ryan
Yeah.
00:37:50
tommy cresta
It's not a thing.
00:37:53
tommy cresta
But, yeah, I think think you're probably right.
00:37:53
Ryan
I
00:37:55
tommy cresta
Megasmuse the big bad for this season. Do you think anyone...
00:37:59
Ryan
i mean, I think he should be.
00:38:00
tommy cresta
you think any main characters die? Any more main characters die?
00:38:04
Ryan
I don't know. I think maybe Vanessa dies at some point.
00:38:08
tommy cresta
Ooh, Punisher kills Vanessa.
00:38:08
Ryan
Not this season, but like next season. And then Kingpin just goes off the fucking rails.
00:38:13
tommy cresta
Oh, you think he's going to kill her?
00:38:15
Ryan
No, no, no, no, no. I think somebody's going to kill her.
00:38:16
tommy cresta
Oh.
00:38:17
Ryan
And then he's going to be like, Vanessa. No.
00:38:20
tommy cresta
Vanessa! No!
00:38:21
Ryan
Vanessa. He's going into Batman now. Vanessa.
00:38:27
tommy cresta
so... If Punisher just shoots her in front of him. He's like talking... Punisher hit him around like a stare down and he just goes Bang! Just drops her walks so away.
00:38:34
Ryan
yeah
00:38:35
tommy cresta
trust Vanessa!
00:38:37
Ryan
No. But that's...
00:38:39
tommy cresta
Yeah, I think that's actually not bad. I think maybe...
00:38:45
tommy cresta
I think maybe the old cop or his girlfriend's gonna die. Like the retired cop guy's buddy.
00:38:50
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah, maybe. I mean, something will probably happen to the girlfriend. Because it's it's a superhero show.
00:38:58
tommy cresta
it's a girlfriend.
00:38:58
Ryan
And they're not allowed to be happy. They're not allowed to have relationships.
00:39:04
tommy cresta
This dude was already born with a disability. His best friend got shot in front of him and died.
00:39:07
Ryan
No, he wasn't born with it.
00:39:08
tommy cresta
Oh, no, he's not. He's hit with the toxic stuff.
00:39:10
Ryan
Yeah.
00:39:11
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:39:12
Ryan
Fucking truck crashed and just slammed into his face.
00:39:13
tommy cresta
Yeah, the trucker.
00:39:16
Ryan
And then his dad wouldn't throw a fight, so he got shot. His mom... his mom leave or die? i don't remember.
00:39:23
tommy cresta
I think she left when he was little.
00:39:24
Ryan
Yeah. And then... Then he gets trained by ninjas.
00:39:30
tommy cresta
The hand.
00:39:32
Ryan
Yeah.
00:39:33
tommy cresta
Worst season of the show.
00:39:33
Ryan
Well, it's stick. Stick. Yeah, season two wasn't great because they wouldn't let.
00:39:38
tommy cresta
That scene with Punisher, though. Fantastic.
00:39:40
Ryan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the thing with season two, why it wasn't great is because the executives and Netflix said that people wouldn't care about Asians. I swear.
00:39:51
Ryan
So, you know, the hand being like an Asian thing, they just they didn't let them put enough time into it because they didn't think people would care. That's why that shit sucks, because there's just not enough to it.
00:40:00
tommy cresta
Yeah, because the hand stuff would have been so cool. Like, that's that's like a big part of Daredevil.
00:40:04
Ryan
Yeah.
00:40:04
tommy cresta
Like, the character of Daredevil. And then, season three, I think is the best season. I think it's just bullseyes in it, and he's just...
00:40:10
Ryan
Yeah, it's good.
00:40:13
tommy cresta
Dude, when he... and my dad were talking, when he drops that FBI agent in this backyard...
00:40:16
Ryan
Oh, yeah. Because you're thinking like, all right he's giving a good speech. He might get saved. he just No, just caps him.
00:40:23
tommy cresta
So quickly, just drops him.
00:40:25
Ryan
Yeah.
00:40:26
tommy cresta
Um... I really like they the reporting girl in this. She's a she's little scooch.
00:40:31
Ryan
Oh, yeah. bebe
00:40:33
tommy cresta
Yeah. The BB report, a scooch.
00:40:34
Ryan
She's a what?
00:40:36
tommy cresta
Pain in the ass.
00:40:37
Ryan
What is it? i've Okay.
00:40:39
tommy cresta
A scooch amends.
00:40:40
Ryan
I think you just... Doesn't that mean like move?
00:40:43
tommy cresta
No, I mean scooch, I thought it did and I looked it up because I kept saying i
Daredevil's Challenges and Secondary Characters
00:40:47
tommy cresta
kept telling Sam, was like scooch amends.
00:40:49
Ryan
Yeah, you say it all the time.
00:40:50
tommy cresta
it means It means pain in the ass. So I was calling my girlfriend a pain in the ass.
00:40:55
Ryan
That's awesome. Yeah.
00:40:57
tommy cresta
Scooch is just a a pest.
00:41:00
Ryan
Okay.
00:41:01
tommy cresta
It's Italian.
00:41:02
Ryan
Italian?
00:41:03
tommy cresta
Yeah.
00:41:04
Ryan
Yeah, because you're not Irish. You're Italian.
00:41:06
tommy cresta
I am Irish. What are you talking about?
00:41:08
Ryan
No.
00:41:09
tommy cresta
You've seen my skin?
00:41:09
Ryan
No. No.
00:41:12
tommy cresta
Edward Cullen has more...
00:41:12
Ryan
You seen Matz?
00:41:14
tommy cresta
Matt's got Irish in there. I don't believe...
00:41:16
Ryan
He says he's Sicilian. He's pale as a ghost.
00:41:23
tommy cresta
Um, what else we got? We got, we talked about Kingpin. We talked about where the story's gonna go from here. do you think he rocks the same suit from the beginning of the show? Or do you think it's a different?
00:41:34
Ryan
Well, considering that suit's broken, I think it's going to be different.
00:41:37
tommy cresta
Oh, yeah, the... Oh, yeah, I forgot they already released those the set pictures. He's in that bright-ass red suit.
00:41:44
Ryan
Okay.
00:41:45
tommy cresta
But it's not, it has black in it still. God damn it. Oh, you know a scene, I like the, like, the concept of the scene.
00:41:49
Ryan
Good.
00:41:52
tommy cresta
But I thought it was kind of ridiculous. The scene when Charlie Cox, ah Matt, and Kingpin sit at the in the diner.
00:42:01
Ryan
Oh, I like that.
00:42:03
tommy cresta
They're talking so loud. There's people on both sides of them.
00:42:08
Ryan
That is true. that That is the one thing where I'm like, it's like, how's the guy in red? I'm just waiting for someone to be like, who they who are they talking about?
00:42:16
tommy cresta
Didn't she shoot?
00:42:16
Ryan
Who's this random blind dude talking to the mayor? What is going on?
00:42:20
tommy cresta
I defeated you once.
00:42:21
Ryan
Yeah.
00:42:22
tommy cresta
Did he go to court?
00:42:23
Ryan
What?
00:42:26
tommy cresta
Isn't that guy a lawyer?
00:42:28
Ryan
Yeah.
00:42:28
tommy cresta
And then he's like, didn't you? I love the line, though. And he's like, he's like, I had a mentor. I had a girl's mentoring once. It's close thing. I had. Didn't she shoot you in the face?
00:42:37
Ryan
Yeah.
00:42:38
tommy cresta
Never watched that go.
00:42:40
Ryan
Neither did I. ah Dude, I remember remember we were s so excited.
00:42:42
tommy cresta
No, I did. I watched episode one.
00:42:44
Ryan
i remember that trailer came out. We were like, oh shit, this looks good. And then everybody just hated that show. Okay.
00:42:50
tommy cresta
Yeah, episode episode one was cool because Daredevil showed up, and then was just ass. A lot of cursing, though.
00:42:54
Ryan
Yeah.
00:42:57
Ryan
Hmm.
00:42:57
tommy cresta
A lot of, like, F-words in there.
00:42:59
Ryan
right.
00:43:00
tommy cresta
bunch of white trash people were in that show, too. was a bunch of like, trailer park people.
00:43:05
Ryan
I'm surprised you didn't like it.
00:43:08
tommy cresta
What hell is that supposed mean?
00:43:08
Ryan
very surprised. Well, you know, you see your family in there sometimes and you see white trash.
00:43:13
tommy cresta
Hey! That's only one side of it.
00:43:18
Ryan
Yeah.
00:43:18
tommy cresta
We don't talk to those family members.
00:43:20
Ryan
Nah.
00:43:22
tommy cresta
Fucking assholes.
00:43:22
Ryan
Tell us what you think. Nah.
00:43:24
tommy cresta
Nah. But yeah. I mean we got what.
00:43:28
Ryan
Yeah.
00:43:30
tommy cresta
So that means we have five episodes left. Was it coming out?
00:43:33
Ryan
Yeah.
00:43:34
tommy cresta
It's coming out Thursdays or Wednesdays. so
00:43:36
Ryan
I thought it was Mondays or Tuesdays.
00:43:38
tommy cresta
Hold on.
00:43:39
Ryan
I'm off.
00:43:41
tommy cresta
what's it
00:43:41
Ryan
I keep getting like halfway through the week and I'm like, is there an episode out? I should check.
00:43:45
tommy cresta
i I only found out because someone posted something on Instagram myself. Darren Devil release schedule.
00:43:55
tommy cresta
Tuesdays. Wow, that was awesome.
00:43:57
Ryan
Tuesdays.
00:43:59
Ryan
Tuesdays.
00:44:00
tommy cresta
You were right.
00:44:02
Ryan
I'll take it.
00:44:04
tommy cresta
But, yeah, we'll take, you can take that one.
00:44:04
Ryan
We take those.
00:44:07
tommy cresta
I didn't get a win there. um What else? Is there anything else you want to talk about from the show?
00:44:12
Ryan
um
00:44:16
Ryan
I mean, not really. I think we kind of got everything. Because it's still very much like, it is going at this point, but it's, you know, it's still building.
00:44:22
tommy cresta
It's just building towards something.
00:44:24
Ryan
Yeah, which is good. I like it kind of slower burn.
00:44:27
Ryan
um
00:44:27
tommy cresta
Oh, I did really like the scene when he um he finds the casing for the gun.
00:44:32
Ryan
Yeah.
00:44:32
tommy cresta
just kind of investigate and he tips the bottle over and he hears it running.
00:44:33
Ryan
Yeah.
00:44:35
tommy cresta
Rolling.
00:44:35
Ryan
who
00:44:36
tommy cresta
Rolling.
00:44:37
Ryan
Yeah.
00:44:41
Ryan
God, that must suck for Punisher too. Just like they're stealing everything. They're stealing your clothes. they're putting your logo on a fucking shell casing. It's like, dude, it's not me for once and I got to get blamed for all this.
00:44:54
tommy cresta
He's like, I already went to court once. don't feel like going back.
00:44:56
Ryan
Yeah. I fought my way out of prison.
00:44:58
tommy cresta
He went to prison.
00:44:59
Ryan
i don't want to go back.
00:45:01
tommy cresta
But, yeah. So I guess we'll be back to do the next episodes. And then, yeah. was Gotta see where the show goes. We gotta see how much... Hopefully we get more muse in this next episode too.
00:45:13
tommy cresta
Because it kind of seemed like that was like his like intro intro. I thought we were going to see more of him.
00:45:16
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:18
tommy cresta
But, yeah. I guess we're going to see where episode 5 goes. And then, they I mean, if they can really hit the strut, like, because I feel like they, I really do like the show so far. They can, like,
Crossovers and Content Recommendations
00:45:29
tommy cresta
finish it pretty well, like, the second half, technically.
00:45:32
Ryan
yeah
00:45:33
tommy cresta
Then I'm very excited for what where Daredevil's character can go.
00:45:37
Ryan
yeah yeah I do wonder what we're going to see him in. because i don't I don't think he's going to be in like an Avengers movie. but Maybe he could pop in like a Spider-Man.
00:45:44
tommy cresta
I think, like, Midnight Suns.
00:45:46
Ryan
yeah Midnight Suns be cool. There's some people he could work with. See him in Moon Knight working together. If he ever comes back.
00:45:57
tommy cresta
Dracula, where's my damn money?
00:46:02
tommy cresta
Are you still talking to yourself? ah ah Steve? Is that his name? Steve Knight?
00:46:07
Ryan
I don't remember.
00:46:08
tommy cresta
Oh, whatever. He's like, still talking to your dead family?
00:46:09
Ryan
Yeah, whatever it is. No, Mark. some
00:46:11
tommy cresta
bunch
00:46:12
Ryan
Yeah.
00:46:14
tommy cresta
Moon Knight's such an awesome character. season That show was so good until the final episode.
00:46:20
Ryan
What's the one where he's like, I need money and ketamine now.
00:46:25
tommy cresta
that where he's random shit go there's the shit out of there Moon Knight's so fucking funny um but yeah that is everything for the day to the side before we go Ryan what would you recommend to everyone
00:46:29
Ryan
Yeah.
00:46:34
Ryan
Yeah.
00:46:43
Ryan
um i Dude, you know what?
00:46:48
tommy cresta
don't take what I was gonna say please go hmm
00:46:50
Ryan
I don't know. You know what know we did last night? Nate came over. I mean, Nate Conner and Puff came over. And I made an Nate start attack on Titan.
00:46:59
tommy cresta
Oh, really?
00:46:59
Ryan
And I was just telling him, like, ah i was watching the first episode with him. And I was like, holy shit. They show everything, man. Like, it's crazy.
00:47:07
tommy cresta
Now, you know all from the beginning.
00:47:08
Ryan
It's insane rewatching the show and just realizing, like, everything was set up from the beginning. It's very impressive. Um... What do I want to recommend?
00:47:21
Ryan
What do you want to recommend? Because I don't want to steal your thing. You seem very protective over it.
00:47:25
tommy cresta
I'm going to recommend everyone go play and we'll be the show 25.
00:47:25
Ryan
Alright, coward.
00:47:29
tommy cresta
I'm having a great time with it so far. Or go watch Ben Affleck's Daredevil. Or Punisher Season 1.
00:47:35
Ryan
Hmm.
00:47:36
tommy cresta
Or the Thomas Jane Punisher. Or Ray Stevenson Punisher Killzone.
00:47:39
Ryan
Ray Stevenson, Punisher, baby. Warzone.
00:47:42
Ryan
Um...
00:47:42
tommy cresta
Yeah, not Killzone.
00:47:43
tommy cresta
Warzone.
00:47:44
Ryan
Yeah. ah You know what? I'll go video game as well. I played ah God of War Ragnarok and it was really good. And we got Debra Ann Wall in that too. She plays Faye.
00:47:56
Ryan
It's very good. Very good. Yeah.
00:47:56
tommy cresta
Really?
00:47:58
tommy cresta
Oh, shit. I didn't know that.
00:47:59
Ryan
Yeah. She's good.
00:48:00
tommy cresta
Oh,
00:48:00
Ryan
She's barely in it. she's It's Kratos' wife so she's you know she's dead at the beginning of the game. but you see some flashbacks.
00:48:06
tommy cresta
okay. Well, yeah. ah Thank you guys all for checking in. What to review next is up in the air. Because Mickey 17 left theaters already.
00:48:15
Ryan
Probably Daredevil. Did it really? Alright,
00:48:18
tommy cresta
Yeah, it comes out streaming on Monday.
00:48:21
Ryan
I guess we're watching it somewhere.
00:48:23
tommy cresta
Uh, Novocaine's out.
00:48:26
Ryan
Yeah. My parents liked it. They saw it.
00:48:28
tommy cresta
Your parents
Podcast Reflections and Closing Remarks
00:48:29
tommy cresta
went saw it?
00:48:29
Ryan
they they were they Dude, they've been going to like, they went to three or four mystery movies in a row.
00:48:35
tommy cresta
i
00:48:35
Ryan
At AMC. They just found out about it and they're like, so fun. Yeah.
00:48:38
tommy cresta
It is fun.
00:48:39
Ryan
yeah
00:48:40
tommy cresta
Unless you got a bad movie.
00:48:41
Ryan
And then, well, they saw they saw that, um was good it's like Magazine Dreams or something. The bodybuilding movie with, um yeah.
00:48:49
tommy cresta
Oh, Jonathan Majors? Oh, really? They didn't like it?
00:48:52
Ryan
Yeah, they saw that. No, they they liked it. but My dad was like, dude, it was fucked up.
00:48:57
tommy cresta
Oh, was it?
00:48:58
Ryan
He's like, it was was dramatic. Yeah.
00:49:01
tommy cresta
Yeah, so Jonathan...
00:49:01
Ryan
Because then I watched the trailer and I was like, oh, fuck.
00:49:05
tommy cresta
I'm really excited for the movie, but now Jon Bernthal, he admitted to doing it.
00:49:05
Ryan
and Bad news.
00:49:10
tommy cresta
What he did to the girl.
00:49:11
Ryan
Or Jonathan Majors, I mean.
00:49:13
tommy cresta
Who did I say? Jon Bernthal?
00:49:14
Ryan
Yeah.
00:49:15
tommy cresta
Jon Bernthal has done no wrong. Except the guy who almost killed in California the one time in a fist fight.
00:49:22
Ryan
Who's fucking with this dog? That's fair.
00:49:23
tommy cresta
He always fucking with the dude's doll with his dog.
00:49:23
Ryan
It's valid.
00:49:24
tommy cresta
That's a fair reason.
00:49:26
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:49:26
tommy cresta
um But yeah, we'll be back in the next episode. Probably reviewing this. Or a movie. We don't know. Or both. But... Yeah, thank you guys for continuing supporting it. Everyone, go check out the podcast pages, the popcorn underscore podcast, ah TikTok, the popcorn underscore pod.
00:49:44
tommy cresta
ah Social media is Fran12, Tommy underscore Cresta. um Then TikTok is, what was it? Dingers and Disputes is the new TikTok.
00:49:55
tommy cresta
And then the popcorn underscore pod.
00:49:57
Ryan
dangers and dispute I didn't save it.
00:49:59
tommy cresta
But yeah yeah, go check out the new Madison video on our page. Very good. One last episode I have left. So much fun. Go watch Ryan's stream of Madison. So funny.
00:50:10
tommy cresta
Watching so...
00:50:11
Ryan
I don't know how to save it.
00:50:13
tommy cresta
You gotta go on your computer.
00:50:13
Ryan
I didn't know how to.
00:50:16
tommy cresta
Yeah. Can't do it for your PlayStation.
00:50:19
Ryan
Well, you're not getting that first episode. I'll keep playing it though.
00:50:23
tommy cresta
Yeah, keep playing it.
00:50:23
Ryan
I made it. Yeah. Now that I know what to do.
00:50:27
tommy cresta
Yeah, now that we've explained to you in the privacy what to actually do with everything.
00:50:30
Ryan
Yeah, how to how to play the game correctly. Yeah, it'll be fun.
00:50:34
tommy cresta
Yeah. ah Well, thank you guys. And we'll see you in the next episode.
00:50:38
Ryan
right, good night.