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Trick 'r Treat (Commentary)
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they do their first ever commentary together! That's right! In honor of Halloween, your morbid hosts are sitting down and watching Trick 'r Treat together, in their most laid-back episode yet. This one is so chill, it's scary. CHILLING, even. This episode is more of a host hang, with some movie talk sprinkled throughout.
We hope you enjoy and have a Happy Halloween! We're happy to be spending our first Halloween as a podcast with you all!
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Format
00:01:12
Speaker
What's up, guys? We're Morbid Curiosities, your favorite horror movie podcast, and we're back with ah and we're back with another episode. I'm leaving it in. This is a laid-back one. yeah I'm one of your hosts, Nicholas Ewers, and with me is the lightweight champion of the world, the morbid mistress of mayhem herself, Mercedes Martinez, and we are in for a good episode because it's a little different, and we're going to run through it because Nick has shit to do tonight.
00:01:41
Speaker
You want to tell them what you got to do tonight? I'm going to see Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein. I tried to co-horse Mercedes into going with me, but ah ah you're busy. It's a Monday night. I get it. Yeah, I i got shit to do too.
00:01:57
Speaker
Yeah. are you Do you think youll you might be able to catch it in theaters while it's still playing? Yeah, I want to try to go see that. um So maybe I'll try to see it Wednesday if I can. Yeah.
00:02:10
Speaker
Damn, should we just bump the listener pick from the fucking schedule and cover Frankenstein on Thursday instead? i mean, maybe. oh man i mean maybe ah maybe we shift the schedule around.
00:02:24
Speaker
we haven't discussed it up until this point. I didn't think of it until now. so It's our podcast. We can swing a few things. It's not like we're completely dropping the listener's pick. Yeah.
00:02:36
Speaker
Yeah, we can fudge with it. So yeah, if you're able to see it, text me and well I'll make sure I'm good to cover it on Thursday then. Okay, so listeners, you're getting a little ah sneak preview on our very first commentary. You're getting to see how the sausage is made.
00:02:54
Speaker
And this is going to be a relatively like unedited episode. So you're going to get it all, the warts and all right here. Yeah, you're going to hear how stupid I sound, all my mistakes I make, all the shit that Nick talks about me when he corrects me on everything.
00:03:11
Speaker
yeah I was planning on bringing up your posters, and now you have a whole different set of posters behind you, so I'm like, oh, man, I can't. I got to like shift. What am I going to make fun of Dimebag
Personal Stories and Anecdotes
00:03:23
Speaker
Daryl? you can't do that. like You were going to make fun of my other posters, though? What's wrong with you?
00:03:30
Speaker
There was a Child's Play 3 poster that I caught. So that was a gift given to me by one of my friends. um Her and her nephew like rated this one um closing store. I forgot what it was, but she told them, like, go find all the Halloween stuff.
00:03:53
Speaker
And they found one of those little metal posters, and it just happened to be of a child's playthrough. I'm like, damn, that one sucks. But I do like the poster, so it had to go up.
00:04:06
Speaker
That's very understandable. And i I know what you mean. I like the poster, too, for Child's Play 3. I was super excited to cover it based on the poster. And yeah, it was so far like the biggest letdown of the podcast, I'd say, right?
00:04:24
Speaker
It really was that and, well, I guess sinister since no one wants to listen to those episodes. Yeah, it was Sinister was the biggest letdown for the listener's perspective.
00:04:36
Speaker
So, yeah, I i get it. Tragic. Yeah. So we'll hop into the movie in a second. I am currently deleting a bunch of files because I got a notification that my storage was running low. And that could cause a problem.
00:04:56
Speaker
If it does, we'll edit around it. We'll make sure it flows on time. But yeah, we got this, listeners. you're You're on this journey with us. And so full disclosure, I'm a little nervous now, but I just did a bunch of deleting.
00:05:10
Speaker
It's okay. I'm nervous too because they're really going to hear everything and we can't be fucking up here, but we'll probably fuck up anyway. Oh, we got this. All right. So let's do a countdown. Are you on zero at the like very beginning of the movie?
Halloween Movie Commentary
00:05:27
Speaker
Yes, I am on zero, zero, zero, zero. Okay. So we're going to start on go. We'll do three, two, one, go. Mercedes, do you want do the countdown?
00:05:38
Speaker
Oh, fuck. Why do you got to put that pressure on me? Okay, cool. Three, two, one, go. right, cool. Did yours start immediately?
00:05:48
Speaker
No, mine did not start immediately. Okay, let's do that again. Okay, let's see. oh Three, two, one, one go.
00:06:00
Speaker
Did yours start immediately? Yeah. Okay, cool. We got this. I hope. I'm turning off my Xbox controller now so I don't bump it and pause or rewind at any point.
00:06:18
Speaker
I'm probably going to knock over my microphone and my charger and everything else like I always do. This is the episode to do all that. They're going to hear it. They're going to hear how clumsy I am. No one needs to hear that when everyone I know sees it already.
00:06:36
Speaker
Just keep your hands, just sit on your hands, you know? That way they can't bump into anything. Then they're going to fall asleep. Whereas me, I'm flailing around.
00:06:49
Speaker
all right, so the movie's opening on a pumpkin. Very Halloween. I feel like this movie probably owes a good amount to Halloween. It's doing the anthology thing like John Carpenter kind of intended the Halloween movies to be.
00:07:03
Speaker
um Mercedes, is this a movie you like a lot? I love this movie. I can't remember when it when the first time I watched it was, but feel like it was on TV and I had put it on. I'm like, damn, this is a good-ass movie. But this couple right here, this girl, she needs to fucking die.
00:07:24
Speaker
I'm sorry. I just had to say that right off the bat because she pisses me the fuck off. Who puts up that many decorations in their front lawn and goes through the trouble of... um uh the jack-o'-lantern and everything and then has the nerve to come home from whatever the hell they were doing tonight and says she wants to take all of that down why what is wrong with you Yeah, taking it down the night of.
00:07:50
Speaker
and So this is another Halloween homage. We're getting this little POV of our little main character that we're going to see. I assume that's him. I actually don't remember who this POV is.
00:08:03
Speaker
No, that's him. ah Yeah, but you're right. That is insane to be like, we're taking this down the night of Halloween, not even the next morning. I'm not taking down decorations at night. No, thank you.
00:08:16
Speaker
I mean, I like the little joke between the couple right now when um the one bitch is like, oh, yeah, my mom will have an aneurysm if she sees the house like this. And her husband's like, really? Like all intrigued by it.
00:08:31
Speaker
um But that was like the only thing that saved this scene. Other than that, she pissed me off. um But yes, i I really do like this film. i watched it a couple times already.
00:08:43
Speaker
So it's actually cool to watch it now and to be able to talk about it.
00:08:50
Speaker
Yeah, I've been looking forward to this. I didn't get a chance to watch it before we started recording. I know, or before we ah recorded the episode. I know we had talked about possibly doing that.
00:09:01
Speaker
oh Okay, so I think I remember, is he putting on porn? Yeah. Or something? Yeah. um One redeeming thing about the mom, I did really like her robot costume that she had.
00:09:14
Speaker
I guess. i Well, yeah, they pretty much. And that's another thing, too. How are you going to go all out on your poster? That was a lot of effort to put into a costume compared to a lot of other people.
00:09:29
Speaker
Hey, it's all the dead kids. Yeah. ah sweet Spoilers. Yeah, sorry. um ah We can spoil it. unless ah If this is your first time watching Trick or Treat along with us, it's a weird way to watch it, good you. Yeah, exactly.
00:09:45
Speaker
Yeah, but go on. What were you saying? um Yeah, she that was a lot of effort she put into her costume. So it's like, again, you did all this effort for your costume, for your house, and you're...
00:10:01
Speaker
You have the fucking nerve to say i hate Halloween. You probably hear me banging the table because I'm annoyed now. um This bitch deserved to die. Yeah.
00:10:17
Speaker
Here she come, or here comes she's going to get it.
00:10:22
Speaker
Oh, wow. This dude was knocked the fuck out. You think he would have been up, you know, waiting and watching? ah Watching the porn. Imagine it was like a tape that they made. Yeah.
00:10:38
Speaker
That's what, yeah. Wow. That would be something. I like his little sucker that he has, his lollipop. i I kind of want it. It looks very appetizing.
00:10:52
Speaker
They're selling those at Spirit Halloween too.
00:10:56
Speaker
Have you been to a Spirit Halloween this year? I have and actually got the prop toy sucker. And I was sad because when I opened it, it broke right at the sucker head. I was so pissed off.
00:11:11
Speaker
It was a prop. It wasn't one you could consume. Yeah, it was a prop. I didn't want to get one to consume at all. I want one to eat. I want to eat Better than raisins.
00:11:23
Speaker
Hey, hey now. I would prefer Raisinets. I was actually looking at a box upstairs earlier. might bring them to see Frankenstein.
00:11:34
Speaker
Dude, bring a Reese's at least to free yeah to see Frankenstein. Do that man justice. I have a bunch of pumpkin and bat Reese's in my kitchen as well, so I might bring those too.
00:11:47
Speaker
um They just melt so easily in the car, especially with the heat running. I don't know if they'll survive the trip unless I throw them in like a lunchbox maybe with an ice pack, get them little frozen.
00:12:00
Speaker
Yeah, do it that way. That way it's a nice frozen treat for you. Yeah, I'm going to need something to get me through this two and a half hour movie. um Yeah, wow.
00:12:13
Speaker
That's crazy. He really wanted to work on her. I know. She's basically like a scarecrow. Yeah, and the sucker. I mean, i guess he was really willing to lose that perfectly bitten off sucker like that.
00:12:30
Speaker
And that was able to like fit in her mouth. Like that's a legit what that mouth do or whatever.
00:12:39
Speaker
Trick or treat. What's with these comic books? What do the comic books have to do with ah anything that's happening? Is this based on a comic book? I heard that we were supposed to get ah comic book and it didn't come out. The movie came out. I don't, I don't know. Maybe my facts are wrong on that, but I think it was supposed to be a comic book at one point.
00:13:04
Speaker
Interesting. saw Brian Cox's name. He's in this thing. Uh, Yeah, I think they've been talking about making a Trick or Treat 2 for a while. i want to say this movie might have had a really hard development.
00:13:19
Speaker
So ah Trick or Treat 2 might be going through development hell. ah This is a true indie, if I'm correct. I mean, I know it has these big production company logos in front of it.
00:13:32
Speaker
But I think that might just be might just be distributors. um It wouldn't surprise, this movie feels like an indie.
00:13:43
Speaker
Did you see the little short film clip but of ah Sammy, the little cartoon part? No, what is what is that? Is it on YouTube?
00:13:56
Speaker
I think it's on like the DVD for it It's like a bonus feature. So it shows him in cartoon form. And I think he's going around with his little pillowcase trying to get candy.
00:14:08
Speaker
And forgot what happens, but like he kills off people in there. Damn, I should have watched that before this, but I just saw like an image of that in the cartoon um sequence. So it just reminded me of that.
00:14:24
Speaker
Okay, nice. Yeah, I haven't seen that. um We just got a little boy walking with a bag of something, and now it says earlier.
00:14:35
Speaker
So I don't know if that little boy, was that Sammy? Samuel? samuel No, I think it's the douchebag kid, who Charlie, who knocks over. curly-haired kid? Yeah, the one who knocks over everyone's pumpkins. Where are they at? Because that just looks like New Orleans.
00:14:59
Speaker
like That's a whole-ass town set up. like That is badass to see everyone in the spirit of that. It has real New Year's Eve type vibes or Christmas in New York type vibes.
00:15:14
Speaker
I've never seen Halloween get this kind of treatment. ah Do you know where a trick-or-treat takes place? I feel like it is supposed to be the Midwest. Considering like the movie it's paying homage to.
00:15:28
Speaker
I can't remember where, but I wish that I could live there because normally we experience a wet Halloween. um It actually takes place in Ohio.
00:15:41
Speaker
Okay, that's not too far from here. This little kid's being a peeping Tom. I assume that's a nod to the movie Peeping Tom. I've seen that movie. You know what's funny, though? um I was looking up the cast because I wanted to figure out this kid's name.
00:15:59
Speaker
It's called Peeping Tommy, or that's his name because he's a little boy. Maybe he is. I don't know. Or could just be because that's the phrase, but...
00:16:11
Speaker
That's where my mind went. I mean, he basically is. And it's funny because that little kid actor is the one that plays Sam throughout the rest of the film. Oh, really? He's the one under the mask and in the makeup?
00:16:25
Speaker
Yup. He's the kid behind the scenes. I wonder if that is makeup when the mask comes off or if that's an animatronic. I haven't seen this in so long. It feels like forever. This chick is little red riding hood.
00:16:39
Speaker
um Yeah, I guess should... Are we going to be pretty liberal about spoiling this movie? Yeah, let's be all out there. There okay there ain't no holding back now. I'm already breathing into my microphone, forgetting that we're on live.
00:16:58
Speaker
these are These women are vampires, right? ah No, they are um ah werewolves. Oh, wow.
00:17:08
Speaker
Damn. that I think you just want to watch Twilight. i think that's what you want to cover next.
Character Analysis and Themes
00:17:16
Speaker
I just thought they were vampires. it seems Well, there's werewolves in Twilight as well, right?
00:17:22
Speaker
Yeah, but the main focus are vampires. The main focus is Bella. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the main focus. But her ah love interests of choice are the vampires.
00:17:38
Speaker
and now we got She's just trying to get that vampire dick. Yeah, pretty much. That's like a whole scene and section in Breaking Dawn. It's disgusting and annoying.
00:17:50
Speaker
But now you got this little fucker destroying pumpkins and doing the whole let me take everyone's candy in the little sorry, we're not home.
00:18:00
Speaker
Take one piece, please. Wow. That looked like real candy too, not that fucking All Hallows Eve candy that we saw. I know. All of the candy in here is basically from All Hallows Eve.
00:18:16
Speaker
This is basically, i mean, this came out before All Hallows Eve. All Hallows Eve is basically like a not as good attempt at this.
00:18:27
Speaker
hey, it's the the weird couple they just banged into. So apparently you see everyone from the other stories in the background somewhere in each scene. So I knew that you would see the couple walking past them in here. um And I just saw the dead kids earlier, but I don't remember seeing anyone else in any other sequence in here.
00:18:58
Speaker
Yeah, I want to say we see the do the dad with the kid who's burying... The guy we're about to see, isn't he at this party? Doesn't he run into these ladies at some point?
00:19:12
Speaker
He is at the party, um but he has a costume on. So unless like you are really paying attention to people in the background, then you're not going to tell.
00:19:22
Speaker
And he sees Little Red ah at one point, but then that's it. like You don't know it's him yet. I don't think.
00:19:35
Speaker
I see. this guy This guy is in stuff. I just don't remember. Do you know what this guy has been in? the The teacher? The principal?
00:19:48
Speaker
Yes, the guy who's right here carving the pumpkin. Oh, Dylan Baker. Yeah, he's been in. What has he been in Yeah, Spider-Man.
00:19:59
Speaker
The Spider-Man trilogy. That's what know him from. was Spider-Man. He was also in Requiem, the movie that I can't pronounce, of a dream. Requiem for a dream?
00:20:10
Speaker
Yeah, and he was also in Hide and Seek, too. He played little characters in there, but yeah, he he was in those films. Hide and Seek, fun movie. It is a fun movie. We got to cover it one day, even though fucking it depresses me at the same time.
00:20:28
Speaker
all a lot of movies do that. Life does that. Adulting is such a scam. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay, so this kid's coughing. You need a root beer?
00:20:40
Speaker
Man. Way to kill root beers for me, man. Yeah. Yeah. um So what is it, razor blades?
00:20:52
Speaker
He's got razor blades in the candy. That's so gross. Disgusting. Blood and chocolate all in one.
00:21:06
Speaker
I do like that puking. and Some good puke. Very over the top. I feel bad for the kid. Puking sucks. Man, that kid deserves that, though. ah For smashing the pumpkins and taking the candy? he doesn't deserve that.
00:21:22
Speaker
People put a lot of work and effort into picking out the right pumpkin. You have to pick out the right pumpkin, the right shape, the right weight, and then carve it They have good memories with that, and then they place it strategically outside so it can look presentable for the entire season. And this little fucker just goes and destroys them all. Fuck you.
00:21:45
Speaker
You deserve to die by projectile vomiting. I don't know. Some kind of critters just destroyed ah or ate up a bunch of my pumpkin that I carved the other day, and I was fine with it. I'm like, i already got the pictures. It's cool.
00:21:59
Speaker
No, those bastards need to die. Damn. Well, I think we disagree on- We always disagree. i choose death. You choose you know empathy for everyone. so yeah Do you like these little kids here?
00:22:17
Speaker
I don't really know them that much yet. They seem okay, right? They're not they're little shits. They're little shits. Have they done anything yet? Not yet. They will show what they do, but they're little shits. You can't trust kids. You can't trust teenagers.
00:22:37
Speaker
Yeah, to an extent, I can agree with that.
00:22:42
Speaker
Man, my nephew just told me that he got a tattoo and he showed it to me and I'm like, dude, you were literally just born. How the fuck do you have the audacity to get a tattoo at the age of 19? yeah, i'm a little sad about that now.
00:22:58
Speaker
What do you get a tattoo of if you feel comfortable saying? He got like a, oh, here's Sammy. Sammy. Hell yeah. My little Sim. That looks really good, that costume.
00:23:11
Speaker
I know. And I love how he just like sticks his hand in the bucket and like aggressively pulls it out like, mine, mine, bitch. He only grabbed one. He only takes one piece of candy.
00:23:24
Speaker
Yeah, because he knows the rules. Don't be ignorant and take all the candy. um But yeah, my nephew, he got like a stack of cards, but they are just placed like diagonally on his arm going down. And they are all of his siblings names with their birthdays on it.
00:23:44
Speaker
And I was like, that's actually pretty cool for you to get cool of you to get to. um But yeah, it was funny. He was just messaging me about it. I'm like, dude, this is... I'm getting too old for this. If you're already getting a tattoo, that's just blowing my mind. Kids these days, they grow up so fast.
00:24:06
Speaker
um I didn't catch if you said it. what When did you get your first tattoo? Oh, that was... My early 20s, that was when my brother was like, you can get a tattoo. I'll pay for it. You can get like a little question mark on your arm so it can match mine.
00:24:25
Speaker
And only reason why I got it was because I said, hey, me and you are becoming cool now. So if I get this tattoo, I don't want to see anyone else have it.
00:24:35
Speaker
He's like, yeah, yeah. that That didn't happen. like He got like his girlfriend's daughter to get it too That pissed me off. He was trying to get my nephew to get it too, which I'm glad he didn't. it um So I don't know.
00:24:50
Speaker
And then, um yeah, but i was even trying to bitch out of getting this tattoo as well because we did a walk-in. The guy's like, yeah, I have someone coming in Give me like an hour and then I'll work on you. I'm like, cool. What do I say to bitch out of this? He's like, you know what? I could bring you back now. I'm like, fuck.
00:25:05
Speaker
So yeah, I got my tattoo that day. That was painful. Very nice. Yeah, tattoos are always painful. People who tell you like certain spots aren't painful, I don't believe them. It's all painful to an extent.
00:25:21
Speaker
Yeah, that shit fucking hurts. You don't have tattoos yet, right? I have a couple. Oh wait, you do? Have I seen them? Probably not. No, they're covered up. Oh my god, i didn't know you had tattoos. Damn.
00:25:35
Speaker
Yeah. Hey, look at this doggy. I know it's not, but it looks like the Target doggy. Yeah, or Wishbone.
00:25:46
Speaker
Indiana Bones. I think he was Indiana Bones in one episode. What a generic name for a dog, Spike. Don't be stealing from Rugrats.
00:25:58
Speaker
Is that the dog from Toy Story as well? Is it? I don't remember the name of the Toy Story dog. think it might be a Spike. Is it Spike? No, that's going to bother me.
00:26:12
Speaker
Yeah, I know when I hear it I'm going to be like, oh, yeah, that's it.
00:26:18
Speaker
Are you looking it up? Yeah, because now I really want to know. It's ah Buster. Buster. man, I don't think I would have gotten that.
00:26:30
Speaker
You know, i was actually thinking it was Buster, but I was like, no, that's every dog's name. And it's funny because i typed in dog name and Toy Story and it came up as Slinky. It's like, yeah, we know Slinky is Slinky. Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:47
Speaker
Slinky is, who's your favorite Toy Story guy? Before we get into that, I do want to say, I like this scene right here. the Him digging, burying this kid, and the son constantly interrupting him.
00:27:03
Speaker
My first time watching this, i was like, I have no idea what the fuck this dynamic is at all. Right, and who is he burying though? like Was this just some random schmo kid? Yeah, I think it was another kid. It wasn't the big kid.
00:27:22
Speaker
Yeah, because that kid had like an orange t-shirt on. This kid looks like a clown from Scary Movie 2. Yeah, how are they not waking up the neighbors?
00:27:33
Speaker
This kid seems so annoying.
00:27:39
Speaker
Oh, man.
00:27:42
Speaker
It's comical. This is more comical than scary, I'd say. it is. i The only reason why i didn't like this part was because you hear the kid grunting, but you hear it as a kid, obviously, you um compared to like an adult like writhing in pain.
00:28:01
Speaker
And i kind of feel bad for this guy here because at the end, he's like, Daddy, I wish Mommy were still alive, where he's like just mimicking his kid. and it's like, okay, you know you're probably stressed out being a single parent here.
00:28:18
Speaker
Yeah, ah that that's what this is. Single parent stress, not psychotic murderer rage, right? Yep, and look at this guy over here trying to beg for help. Oh, man.
00:28:31
Speaker
Yeah, what was going on there? Is that the end of the movie? It is the end of the movie. That's the end of the movie we just saw? Yeah, you just saw a glimpse of Sam take over.
00:28:44
Speaker
okay so, oh, man, that's something I never really did was piece together the order of this movie. Do you know the exact order? i do, yeah.
00:28:55
Speaker
would you be able to tell us as the movie's going on? ah Yeah. ah Hopefully. If you like numbered the parts? so You have the robots as one, these the teacher, this guy as two, think the little shits as three,
00:29:22
Speaker
the werewolves as four and then the ah little Sammy and the crazy neighbor as five.
00:29:32
Speaker
I think. but What's the order that it actually takes place in? That order. That order? Yeah. Well, that's how we see it on here.
00:29:44
Speaker
no but how is it actually like if we organized it in chronological order? I don't know. To me, I think it would be like simultaneously. Simultaneously. well Somewhat. Yes, because the vampire, this guy encounters the werewolves after this. That's a later chapter.
00:30:07
Speaker
Yes, so he did say that he's going to go out later after he helps his kid right now. and I literally was like, damn, is he about to stab his fucking head? like i thought he was going to.
00:30:19
Speaker
Yeah, he really hates his kid. And then I was like, nah, the way he just brought down that knife, definitely not. And then you still see the little kid's little curly tendrils in the background.
00:30:32
Speaker
and this is some demented kid whispering, don't forget to help me with the eyes. This kid is pretty adorable though. Yeah, don't forget to help me with the eyes.
00:30:44
Speaker
Damn. What the fuck? Yeah, what a reveal. Why was this kid being annoying a little shit earlier if he knows his dad's business? Why is he trying to expose his dad like that?
00:30:56
Speaker
He doesn't know any better. this is probably little Charles LeRae in the making. He doesn't know any better. This kid has grown up faster than most kids. He's seen death firsthand.
00:31:09
Speaker
He has, but he's just viewing it as him chopping up this fucking head as carving a jack-o'-lantern. Imagine being these kids at age and seeing faculty member like this, like half naked. What is this, the swinger party?
00:31:30
Speaker
Yeah, basically. that's... hey but You would think like all of them were dressed provocatively too, but you got like a random wiener in the background and whatever that thing was.
00:31:49
Speaker
I don't think growing up, my teachers lived anywhere near my school. I think they all lived 30, 45 minutes away. One of my teachers lived in my neighborhood. And once I found that out, I'm like, I never want to see you.
00:32:05
Speaker
And I actually went to her house when I was trick or treating one day because I saw her like at the top of the stairs. I'm like, oh, my God, please do not recognize me. And I think, of course, that was one year that I didn't have a mask on
00:32:20
Speaker
Did you ever live near people that you went to school with, whether it's grade school or high school? I did, yeah, in grade school and high school for that matter.
00:32:33
Speaker
I never got to. i Well, that's a lie. My first grade school, I lived near a couple people. But then in second grade, it transferred and started going to Catholic school.
00:32:45
Speaker
And I didn't live near anybody when I was in Catholic school. And then even in high school, I was so close to the other schools, the other high school's district line, that nobody I knew really like lived by me either in high school.
00:33:02
Speaker
Yeah, i lived by some of my buddies when I was in like elementary school up to junior high. Some of them i still talked to when I was in high school. But when i was in high school, that was when I became friends with people who were actually in the town of our high school.
00:33:24
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See, yeah look at this party. like Everyone's really going to town. it, Mardi Gras? That's what I'm saying. Voodoo by the fucking Bayou vibes.
00:33:34
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Exactly. and You got this couple just like all the way in the background. I wonder how they met. Did they go on a dating website and they're like, yeah, let's meet up on Halloween. Yeah.
00:33:50
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Yeah, dating website would be the thing. i was about to say date dating apps. i don't know if we I don't know if that was really a thing back 2007 or whenever this came out.
00:34:01
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Yeah, true. and ah This bitch, one, I just want to fix her eyebrows. um She's a beautiful lady, but still, her eyebrows are kind of bothering me. um But yeah, you you decided to meet up with a guy that you've never seen in person. You just see this guy with a mask on.
00:34:21
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And then when you think about it, it's gross on who it actually is.
00:34:27
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Yes, he's the the boy's father, right? Yes, the Wilkins. Yes, he's pretending to be a vampire. Yeah, he is pretending to be a vampire. Okay, that's the mix-up.
00:34:43
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that i See, I acted like that was so unreasonable. It was in Twilight. is You were just thinking of Twilight the whole time. You wanted these damn vampires. Yeah. ah but again Okay.
00:34:56
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So, is Wilkins, is he a teacher or like a dentist? what He has those vibes. he's a principal Okay. He has principal and not real life principal vibes, but principal in a movie vibes.
00:35:12
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if If you know the difference. Here's that couple again. i don't know why they keep showing this couple. Who died in the beginning. Yeah. It's like, all right, we're sick of you already.
00:35:24
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They want us to know it's all connected. They're the reminder. They're the thread. It's not Sammy. It's the couple. Behind you. Oh, shit. Now you're dead.
00:35:36
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That's what happens when you fuck around and find out. Damn. ah None of those people even realize everybody's just oblivious. She looks clearly dead.
00:35:47
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I mean, she got people that are just chilling next to her and two of them look like they're passed out drunk. so Of course, no one bats an eye here.
00:35:59
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men people are probably going to hate that I keep calling Sam Sammy I call him Sammy yeah I felt like that was his name but somebody recently corrected me they're like his name's Sam not Sammy and I was like sorry well his government name's probably Samuel but you know sorry or solidly reference Halloween reference
00:36:27
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But like, I call him Sammy and I know we're not the only two in the world that say Sammy, but I do say Sam every other time. Plus people talk shit because then when I say Sammy, they think I'm talking about Sam from Sam, um Sam Winchester from Supernatural. Hmm.
00:36:45
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Okay, so these asshole kids, you're right. These kids do suck. I'm starting to remember this now. um They brought this quiet chick out who's usually not a part of their group, this loner chick, to go to this cliff, this like quarry or whatever where a busload of kids died.
00:37:07
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Yup. and There's a random trailer right there too. so Who the fuck was living here at some point? Oh, man. Well, is this a quarry? It could be a work site.
00:37:20
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No, it's a rock quarry. I don't know why I can't say that word. Quarry, that's what I said. Yeah, I'm saying it is a rock quarry.
00:37:31
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Oh, I thought you said no. um Oh, no. Yeah, it's similar to the quarry that we have in our state, like our general area. We have a Flintstones-esque quarry. Mm-hmm.
00:37:49
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That's where they could be right now. This could be Bachelor's Grove. There's a quarry there, right? Mm-hmm. Al Capone, where he disposed of his bodies, from what I heard.
00:38:02
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Yup. Man, I love this scene here. What is the filter called? Like sepia? Sepia tone?
Dark Tales and Set Design
00:38:10
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Yeah, I love that like um filter tone. It's like sepia tone with the orange cranked up, almost like way more saturation.
00:38:23
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Yeah. Or warmth. So you got this busload of kids who are all ones with disabilities and fact. Oh, didn't remember they had disabilities.
00:38:37
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Yeah, and the cool thing is, is all the actors that are playing them are actually kids who legitimately do have disabilities. Yeah. Man, have you seen the Spanish language film Where Evil Lurks?
00:38:52
Speaker
I have not. Or When Evil Lurks? I forgot which one. When or where? I feel like it's when. It's a very generic title, but it's an Argentinian film.
00:39:07
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So, so great. So wild. Um... I forgot why I brought it up. Oh, there is a developmentally disabled character in that movie.
00:39:21
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I don't know if the actor is developmentally disabled or not in real life. That kid's role in the movie is fucking wild. It's such a choice to have that be a character in the movie.
00:39:33
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Damn, I got to check it out. Well, we got to get the title right first and then I got to check it out. Yeah, it just makes the scene in the movie, like, whenever you have someone like that in there, there's that trailer still up and running.
00:39:47
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um Just that more unsettling because it's like, clearly these kids are at a huge disadvantage and now, like, they don't even know what the hell's going on and you feel bad because this kid like knows something bad's about to happen because they didn't make the right turn for him to go home and this is such a fucked up thing like yeah let me offer candy let me have them be quiet and bribe them with candy and they're all just shackled to this bus like what the fuck man why is he doing this
00:40:25
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I guess just to keep them distracted while he is going to, you know, let the bus fling off. That's what I mean. Why is he killing them? Oh, I guess the the girl, the one angel mean bully person was um telling the story that um all of the kids' parents got sick of them and they paid the bus driver to, you know, get rid of their kids.
00:40:55
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Wow, that's a really dark thought. That's very dark. It is. It's like all of you like unanimously came to the decision, like, let's all get someone to kill our kids so we don't have to deal with them anymore.
00:41:09
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damn
00:41:12
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um Yeah, I don't have anything else to add. That's very dark. ah Doing it on Halloween feels very unnecessary. i don't know what the point of that is. got to ruin these kids' holiday. Can't do it a day later, November 1st.
00:41:27
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the
00:41:30
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That's fucked up. That's a great shot, though. This whole thing is very well shot. I wonder if there's CGI in this, and this filter ah covers it up a good amount. It's very hard to tell. I don't have my glasses on.
00:41:42
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Yeah, that is a great shot, though. That whole scenery. Beautiful, but so morbid. not Alone pumpkin. Perfectly good pumpkin. I know, and all their little masks.
00:41:57
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Oh, no, not Dracula.
00:42:02
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Damn. That's sad. And who makes it out alive? This fucker. Young Brian Cox. I think Brian Cox plays the old man version of him.
00:42:13
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Succession himself. Fucking himself. but up up uppa himself
00:42:20
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Man, I remember one of my friends saying that little jingle when they saw someone across the street from my house with a McDonald's bag and they heard him. So they turned around and looked and he got embarrassed and he just jetted inside my house.
00:42:40
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I'm like, well, that's your fault, dumbass. Like, why are you going to do that and not be prepared? was little funny. See, even this girl knows she's full of shit. Which girl?
00:42:52
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The angel girl? Yeah. No, the ah one with the the retainer. She's telling the other girl, like, you're so full of shit. Oh, the witch? Yeah. All of you are full of shit fuckers.
00:43:04
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No, not the witch. Oh. I don't know what she is. I think she's an alien. She had like a big head on. oh I thought she was like a gourd or something. I couldn't tell.
00:43:15
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I don't know. I could be wrong. No, you're probably right. I don't think she would dress as a gourd. That would be pretty crazy. So these guys, they're taking them down. I would not be on this.
00:43:27
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I'd be like, you guys are all going to die down there and I'm going to go home. Yeah, like even and for all of them to agree on this prank, I'm not fucking going down there.
00:43:40
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This little crane elevator thingy that they're about to get in has not operated in x amount of years. And then she has a nerve to say it can only hold three for safety or fuck you.
00:43:53
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One of them is holding a really well-carved pumpkin. I mean, they're all pretty well-carved, but one of them is especially well-carved. think it's the alien girl.
00:44:05
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I carved a pumpkin the other day. Did you see a picture of it? I did not. What did you carve? It's a the puking pumpkin, the puking face. Man, some people get really like intricate with their pumpkin carving. like It's impressive.
00:44:24
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Are you good at it? No. I wish I was. And there was a point in time where I'm like, yeah, I'm goingnna like really like going go in on this pumpkin. And I fucked up like a tooth. The eyeball was messed up. Like, damn.
00:44:39
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I tried and I failed. I think if I had a better ability to draw on a pumpkin, think, what the fuck is with this barbarian lady? Holy shit.
00:44:51
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That was a lot. A lot of woman, that barbarian lady. a Some men like a lot of woman. Yeah. Yeah. Some women like a lot of women. wasn't knocking her. That wasn't complaint.
00:45:06
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But it was just so jarring, that shot. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like maybe with like a stencil, the group that we were carving with ah had some stencils. I wanted to do the puking one, and it was pretty easy to do. And I thought I'd be bad at it.
00:45:26
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But I realize I'm not that bad at tracing what's drawn on the pumpkin. It's just got to I'm not good at drawing on the pumpkin itself. Yeah, tracing and drawing on the pumpkin. I'm fairly decent at. um But actually carving it out sucks.
00:45:44
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Do you scrape into the pumpkin at all? Is that a move that you do? Yeah, you got to do that first and then carve them how you want.
00:45:56
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This kid's over here eating like a three musketeer or something. No, not scrape out the pumpkin, but use like scraping tools to scrape a design on the outside of it. Oh, no, I just use the little knives. I should use the scraping tools.
00:46:11
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Yeah, I scraped out the inside of the pumpkin. God, that process sucks. And I don't care for pumpkin seeds or really pumpkin pie at all, even though it looks so good.
00:46:25
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So all of that stuff is useless to me when I scrape it out. Whoa, you don't like pumpkin pie? It's one of the things I wish I liked. I'm not a big fan of like cinnamon, and I want to say cinnamon is a big part of pumpkin pie, right?
00:46:41
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Yeah, but like it's pumpkin. Pumpkin pie is fucking fire. Not a fan. i try it I try it almost every year, and I'm hoping to like it, but it's something that doesn't work for me.
00:46:54
Speaker
get that. Pumpkin spice is even worse. Pumpkin pie I like a bit more, but I can't do pumpkin spice. So yeah, pumpkin spice as a flavor, like if it's in coffee, I keep trying to like it and I still don't. I think it's just a very distinct, very nutmeg cinnamon flavor that I don't like.
00:47:16
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But I like pumpkin pie probably because my mom always made it for the holidays. So that's most likely why it's like a sweet treat for me. um But apple pie is my favorite pie.
00:47:28
Speaker
I like a Dutch apple pie. My girlfriend and I made some after we went quote unquote apple picking ah ah earlier this month or it was at the end of September.
00:47:40
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So um back to the little cartoon that I was trying to mention, it was actually called Season's Greetings, which was one of the titles that Trick or Treat was supposed to be.
00:47:51
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um It's a short. like that a bit more, kind of. Well, they didn't want to keep it like that because they said it sounded too Christmassy, which I agree. Don't be mixing two up.
00:48:02
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Good point. Good point. um They left this loner witch lady down here where all the kids were murdered. Well, now she's just going to investigate because she's like, let me me try to help and see what's going on. And that's where the second mistake comes in You fucking want to go investigate for one on your own.
00:48:27
Speaker
That's bad enough. But then when you try to go help people, that's worse. I'm not going to help these people. They're not my friends. Fuck you guys. Damn. Good bus. Good looking bus. I wonder how much that costs or if it's CGI.
00:48:41
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It looks like a set. This looks like a set that they built, though. It looks very good. If this looks like it's where the money went. um Maybe we didn't say this.
00:48:56
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How is all this shit still intact? What did these kids died last week? Right. like That makes no sense. The first mask that they showed looked like one of the masks from the students in the bus.
00:49:12
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um I'm not touching a fucking mask in that water. you You don't know what's in that water. Yeah. yeah Ew. That's how you get some kind of disease.
00:49:23
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a kid Zombie kids grabbing them. o Get her. Are those zombie kids? You want them to get her? I thought we were on her side. We are on her side, but choose violence.
00:49:36
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You just want everybody to die. Ew. I choose violence. Oh, man. They're eating this pirate kid. Sammy's one of these kids, right? He's a part of this group? He's not, actually. That's a twist?
00:49:50
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Yeah. He's just overseeing everyone. some Halloween spirit. He's like the Santa of Halloween, except not jolly in any way, shape or form.
00:50:01
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If you upset him, he seems docile unless you upset him.
00:50:09
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We haven't said this yet, but this episode is coming out on Halloween, so happy Halloween to the listeners. Woo-hoo, fuck yeah. Every day is Halloween, though. Yeah, we maybe should have said that up top, but this is our treat to you guys. We hope you like it.
00:50:25
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Someone better like it. So all those kids are dead, right? Are they, though?
00:50:36
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Um... So it wasn't the dead kids.
00:50:43
Speaker
Wait, what is happening? so Rhonda just fell and busted her shit and hit her head on some rocks. You come to find out that the dead kids that were trying to attack her were little shits.
00:51:01
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I was caught line, and sinker. Wow. They got me. It worked on me. the The twist. I know the ending twist already, basically, but If it's more of a reveal than a twist, but.
00:51:20
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This poor girl. Yeah. And her glasses are broken now, so. sucks. You think she's fucked, but she's not fucked.
00:51:33
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And this kid got like a sack of sausages on him. I broke my glasses running to catch a train on my way to a concert one time.
00:51:45
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And I was so upset that I didn't go to the concert. I just got on a train back home and went home. What concert was it? Seven Dust.
00:51:57
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I don't know if you've listened to them. Yeah, I had already seen them several times. It was a bad day and it was just one last bad thing.
00:52:09
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to happen and and i'm going home i'm too tired i don't even want to be here i would have done the same exact shit honestly and this bitch just knocked over a perfectly good pumpkin because she's pissed off fuck you stop fucking with all the pumpkins have some damn respect Damn, you're like, they're only in season for a little bit.
00:52:30
Speaker
Exactly. um i just watched a little bit of The Great Pumpkin, ah great pumpkin Charlie Brown the other day. Nice. Are you a fan? Have you heard of it?
00:52:41
Speaker
Are you familiar? I am familiar with it. Do you pray to The Great Pumpkin every year? Is that the God you worship? I pray to Jack Skellington.
00:52:53
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um jack skellington farre jack jack skellington just wants to be santa so but he resorts retorts back to the reverts back to the pumpkin king but he's got a little bit of santa in his heart don't don't you get vibe that he's like we'll give it another go next year don't you get the vibe that he's like we'll give it another go next year No, he he was going through a midlife crisis. You know, there's a book now, two books actually, of Sally and it's focusing on her and how she's like sick of Halloween town and she wants to like make something of herself or some shit. I refuse to read it.
00:53:38
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Here are the dead kids. You should read it and report back the real dead kids. I mean, I might because I like how the pages of the books look, so I might. i But I was just like, come on What are you going to do?
00:53:52
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Don't fuck around and find out. Ooh, the kid with the retainer is going bye-bye. what do they did they get her with a rope, or is that the force that they're using?
00:54:03
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No, there I think it was the chain, one of the chains that they were shackled with. This girl's all protected in the little elevator with all the pumpkins. I love it. Oh, man.
00:54:14
Speaker
Do you let them in? no. That's the thing. Hell no. All they did was play a prank on her. So? They deserve that. They deserve the death penalty. Yeah, they're little shits. They fucked with her. Now she's, ah was going to say, now she's blind.
00:54:31
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No, well, she's technically. I was like, wait, what? No, now she can't see. They blinded her? Yes, clearly. And a little wave.
00:54:44
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Well, you better start climbing, people. oh man. i like that. I like this rickety elevator. It's gross because you can hear like crunching at the bottom with this, like all everyone dying and screaming and it's great. ah Flesh tearing, kids groaning, screaming, creatures grunting. These are the subtitles that come up for me. They deserved it.
00:55:12
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Sammy. Sammy's a weird size. He's very long. He's very long. No, he's not. He's got a very long, slender body. He's tiny. He's tiny, but he's very slender. Well, you wanted him to be pudgy?
00:55:31
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No, it just caught me off guard. Just an observation, not a criticism. He's not the Pillsbury Doughboy. He's a Slenderman vibe going on. oh my God.
00:55:42
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Did you watch that movie, Slenderman? Fuck no. Hell no. Did you? I think I did just because I wanted to see what it would be about, and it was a dud.
00:55:54
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Yeah, I almost saw it in theaters and the tomato score. And usually I don't completely go off of that. But when the audience and the critics are both at like zero, I'm like, yeah, maybe this is just a bad movie. Maybe I don't need to spend money on it. And then I never got around to it.
00:56:13
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I would cover it for the podcast. That would be if I was able to talk about it on mic afterwards, I would cover it. You know, this girl in the pink bothers me.
00:56:26
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This is witch vibes right now. You were giving me a hard time again about... or wait, no. I call them vampires. Never mind. They don't know what the fuck they are. This feels like the witch right it does, honestly. But um that girl in the pink has been constantly drinking in this film or at least acting like she's drinking in the drunkie in here.
00:56:51
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But she's not because in the flask earlier, there was nothing in there. And she's not even drinking anything from this fucking empty beer bottle. You play a horrible little junkie. I'm sorry.
00:57:03
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um ah least she tried. But yeah, this is giving witch vibes here.
Werewolves, Transformations, and Cultural References
00:57:11
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The Witch, that great movie. You've seen it, right? The Vivitch. Yes, I've seen it. I keep rewatching it. Well, I kept rewatching it a few months back for some reason. I kind of want to watch it again. It's not the greatest, but i don't know. I like the setting. Ooh, someone fell from the tree and we're about to find out who it is. who it's Little Red.
00:57:34
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I think Robert Eggers is getting a little too self-aware. Really? With the werewolf being called the verwolf now or whatever. It's like, okay, buddy. Wait a minute.
00:57:46
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We called it the vich. You didn't call it that. The audience kind of dubbed it that. it's titled the witch but it's presented with the double v on the cover but the werewolf i think it's actually spelled with the double v not the w and i'm like no just let us come to it you know it's you're too self-aware now yeah that's a little full of himself there i didn't know that he was calling it that now
00:58:18
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Yeah. Nosferatu himself. Nosferatu. Nice R roll. I love it.
00:58:31
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Yeah. I do a lot of roll. I'm good at the R roll because of a System of Down singing to them. I love it.
00:58:43
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These witch, I mean werewolves, um Oh, man, they're going rip his teeth out? Mm-hmm. Wait, how is he penetrating skin with fake teeth like that?
00:58:56
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You see, that's what I would ask because it's like, okay, do you really have to chomp down that hard? But it's like if you did chomp down that hard, the fake teeth will just come off because they'll just slide off. Or fuck up your gums more, do more damage to you than it would be doing to your victim.
00:59:15
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But yeah what a turn of events here now. Yeah, what is happening here? This is Spider-Man 2 himself. It's revealed to be him.
00:59:28
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Are any of these dead characters people we know? Yeah, so like the two cameramen that the two flirty girls were at first talking to, they were there.
00:59:42
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um Just like the side characters that you saw ah the girls talking to. that Those are the only ones that you see. So you find out that all the girls just lured some random guy into the woods there so they can basically...
01:00:01
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what eat them sacrifice them probably eat them yeah I think they're werewolves I think they're trying to make you think they're witches this is all just coated with witchcraft yeah plus this girl full-on attacks this guy in like a few seconds and you know she is a little red riding hood so that is kind of a nod to her being a werewolf true since her grandma was eaten by ah wolf. Rest in peace, Little Red Riding Hood's grandma. I talked about my grandma in the Bring Her Back episode. That's how she passed away. Werewolf, actually.
01:00:37
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Damn, seriously? No, I'm kidding. No, I know that. I was waiting for you to say something else. Yeah, clearly a werewolf. I didn't want it to get too far. ah These listeners, you know, they'll believe anything we tell them.
01:00:55
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We are their gospel. We really are. People, yeah they follow us. some They tell us that. They tell us we are their gospel. You got a whole striptease going on here. and Gross.
01:01:10
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This girl's spine. i i hate the part where they slice this girl's or so they split this girl's spine open or her skin open. It's very gross. There's almost nudity. oh That's kind of grosser than the substance.
01:01:28
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Really? i still haven't seen that movie. oh That hair, that's gross hair. And then think about it too. like They have all that hair ah underneath their skin there.
01:01:40
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have to be hot and sweaty and gross. I imagine it's like shedding almost like that second skin develops on there under there like in the while the full moon is on them and then they shed their old skin and now they're the werewolves they're
01:02:06
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underneath their werewolf skin is their normal skin that they're going to revert back into? I don't know, man. I don't know how werewolves work. You know, the funny thing too is, um what's her name? Anna Paquin, her character, when she was like kind of transforming but not completely, and it's just like her eyes and teeth like changing, um that actually looked...
01:02:36
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genuinely disturbing I liked how they had her look but then once like she like cranked her neck back and then they kind of give her like a little snout that looked too playful to me i think if they just kept her like that it would have like been better Anna Paquin scream alumni if I'm correct
01:03:01
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Was she in Scream? Oh, yeah, she was. Scream 4, maybe? Yeah, your favorite Scream. We should be watching that. i I threw that on the other day, actually. i was like, this is really the best if it's the one I'm coming to in Halloween season.
01:03:19
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I was actually watching the first Scream last night. A lot of people have been logging that this October. I think it's because of us. We put people on to Scream again. We made it good.
01:03:31
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We made Scream popular. We're leaving an impact here. i love it. so Now we're in the final chapter. Sam was there to observe the werewolves eating. I guess he's a part of their community.
01:03:44
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They're cool with him. yup He's just chilling there. He's one of them. Yeah, and I assume that doesn't happen every Halloween. There can't be a full moon every Halloween. It'd be great if there was. It'd be a lot cooler if there was.
01:03:59
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That'd be pretty wild. So these kids were all at Brian Cox's house. This is Brian Cox, right? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Mr. Succession himself.
01:04:12
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Succession, great TV show, HBO. Guys, if you haven't watched it, check it out. Phenomenal.
01:04:21
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This guy just hates Halloween. He's like the Scrooge of Halloween, the Scrooge McDuck of Halloween, if you will. I'm such a Scrooge around the holidays. like It's bad. yeah my mom would call my dad a Scrooge.
01:04:36
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um and Then as I got older, I'm like, fuck, I'm such a Scrooge. I try to still make the holidays as best, like fun as best as I can, but at the same time, I'm like, fuck the holidays, especially if you work at retail. That shit sucks.
01:04:57
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I love the holidays. i I do get seasonal depression that I have to fight against pretty hard. Hell yeah. Wishbone the dog. um Yeah, I get seasonal depression pretty hard around like Christmas time. Mostly after. It's that January, February, March period where I get a little bit of it.
01:05:19
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Especially around like Valentine's Day, I would typically get it. But... um Yeah, i I really like the holidays. And last year i did a good job combating seasonal depression, I think.
01:05:32
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Good for you, man. like I struggle with seasonal depression as well. And that's what really makes me hate the holidays along with a bunch of other things. But I try to make each thing each holiday creepy because once Christmas comes around, I'll make gingerbread voodoo dolls instead of gingerbread men and then obviously watched the nightmare before christmas um and then i think it's cool because for valentine's day they have a love bites haunted house i think at the 13th floor so oh that's very cool Yeah, so it's like, see, the world is coming around to every day is Halloween.
01:06:15
Speaker
like Just get on board with it, guys. The quicker you do it, the happier you'll be. Yeah, I i am kind of happy. like This will be my first time going into a Christmas with like a girlfriend in years, so kind of excited about that. I was thinking about it the other day,
01:06:37
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um how Basically, I've been in a relationship as long as the podcast has been running, almost.
01:06:49
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Damn, she is your good look charm. Shout out to her. I met her in person a couple days after we recorded our Child's Play episode, so I can track it based off that.
01:07:03
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I love that. Yeah, then we started dating, I think, a little bit after Child's Play 3 came out. So, yeah, I can track it by the podcast history. Dang, that was the only good thing about Child's Play 3. You can at least remember that was when you guys, like, legit got together. Mm-hmm.
01:07:23
Speaker
So, what were you going to say? No, I just hate this part because this dog is chomping on a finger. That's gross. Mm-hmm. Have you ever found a finger in your food?
01:07:36
Speaker
Uh, no, but I've found hair in my food and that's equally just as gross. Yeah, uh, got a snack wrap from McDonald's like several months ago. This was over the summer.
01:07:51
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Um, and there was a hair in my snack wrap, so I haven't gotten a snack wrap from them since. Uh, there was a lady who found a finger in her chili at Wendy's, I think. That was a story when we were younger.
01:08:05
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Mm-hmm. I remember that story. That was rough to hear. yeah the kids listening to this might not know. I do often wonder if our listeners are in our age range.
01:08:18
Speaker
I'd assume they are. If they're younger, i don't i don't think this will appeal to them because some of these movies, they' even some of the music that we can listen to kids don't know. like I think I had told you, and I might have mentioned it on here, i asked um one teenager, like, oh yeah, have you listened to Linkin Park? And they're like, I don't know who that is. So I'm like,
01:08:47
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I do not know who Linkin Park is. Wow. Geez, that is kind of surprising. I was about to say Mercedes is ageist. We're finding it out now, but that is pretty wild that someone doesn't know who Linkin Park is.
01:09:04
Speaker
I mean, my younger cousins didn't know like that Venga Boys or Venga Bus, whatever that song is, and didn't remember the little man from um the Six Flags commercial. So when I was talking about that, they're like, what are you talking about? I'm like, you guys really don't know what this is? They're like, no.
01:09:26
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I felt so ancient. Yeah. Maybe Linkin Park is a little harder to discover now. I mean, it has been a while since they've really released music. I don't know if they've done anything with the new chick that they've got, but it's not like they've been in the conversation, I guess.
01:09:50
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defend them. But now, this old guy, he' is like being his little Scrooge self and he hears something upstairs. He got his shotgun He's trying to call to down to his dog.
01:10:07
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Man, if I'm alone and I hear a noise upstairs and then I see a little person running across the hall, I'm leaving.
01:10:19
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I'm sorry. if They can have the house at that point. Yeah, I mean, exactly. i don't think I'd be walking around with a shotgun double barrel, but I mean, this guy's so frail, he might die if he steps outside.
01:10:36
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He might die from the recoil of his shotgun.
Actor Roles and Moral Discussions
01:10:40
Speaker
It is wild that Brian Cox is in this thing. He will do anything, it seems like, for a paycheck.
01:10:47
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He kind of comes off as like a prestige actor, but you know he'll work for a paycheck. It's crazy how all the scenes in this movie are you know either bright or they got a good...
01:11:08
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scenery behind them, but this guy, he has like a rotting old house that he just doesn't maintain at all. like The wallpaper is peeling off. and Look at all those pharmaceuticals. Look at that bed. It's not even been made. and There's someone hiding in there. What a savage.
01:11:34
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yeah Just shoot, man. At that point, yeah, just fucking shoot. some You saw someone in your house. Yeah, you're going through this. length What is that hand?
01:11:46
Speaker
I don't know. I think it's just a toy. And now you got little writing on the walls. Leave. This is where you leave your house immediately.
01:11:57
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You see, I'm sad. All that writing up there, and they don't have the main line that needs to be up there, the main verse. trick-or-treat smell my feet give me something good to eat they don't have any of that they have i think no they have all that but i don't think they have the the main ending that everyone knows the part that you bleeped out that we had to censor yeah per your request But it was funny because I forgot you did that. And when I listened to it, I was crying.
01:12:35
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oh my God. Mainly because of what you said after. you just made me sound like a creep. Way to go, man. I didn't make you sound like anything. Wow. And now this kid is busting out the razor.
01:12:51
Speaker
Oh, man. What kind of candy was that? Is that like a Charleston chew? That would be a good candy to... Not a good candy to stick a razor in, but the way he's using it, almost like a box cutter, the nougat would hold that razor in place for something like that.
01:13:09
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That's true. and Damn. I just want a chocolate candy now. Like, damn. Ooh, and now this guy just fell down the stairs. You're going to go pick up a Charleston Chew like it's 1923?
01:13:23
Speaker
No, I want to get a peanut butter Twix, which I don't even know if they make those anymore, but those are fucking good. Yeah. Why? Why do we have to see all that? Why?
01:13:34
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razor blades cut up his hands the razor blade and candy imagery is kind of upsetting just because thinking about how much it's torn him up that kid puking up blood in real life or in the movie and then knowing that that was a supposedly a thing that was happening in real life h And then even trying to like unlock all the locks in chains from his door and clearly his hands are like shredded.
01:14:04
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so when you think about like him kind of curling up his hands and now Sam just jumped on him and they're just going to town.
01:14:17
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Samuel, he is really giving it to him. Sammy hates this guy. It's just because he doesn't give out candy kids. Probably, yeah. It's like, what a dick. Don't be a Scrooge.
01:14:28
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Everybody who doesn't give out candy gets this treatment. I mean, there's been Halloweens where I didn't give out candy. The people who disrespect Halloween, get they face Sam's wrath like him.
01:14:43
Speaker
Whee! The two years that I lived in an apartment in Arizona, um there were no trick-or-treaters that came through. can Given that Candy wasn't a thing we had to worry about.
01:14:57
Speaker
I hate that. I hate that so bad. He's got a pumpkin head. I like Sam with his mask on I like both, but I prefer him with the mask on.
01:15:12
Speaker
i don't have an issue with this look. Oh, man, he shoots him in the face. Yeah, and then he goes splatter, and then Just looks like a sploded pumpkin.
01:15:23
Speaker
Yep. Poor Sam. man, get out of your house, dude.
01:15:31
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Leave. It looks like it's daylight outside. He's trying his best to defend his household there. why is it bright outside like it's morning? Is it day?
01:15:42
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No. that's you know that's that's That's a good call because I've never paid attention to that. lot of hereditary is like that too where it looks like it's morning outside at like when the clock clearly says 1 a.m. m in the scene.
01:16:00
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Oh, nice. Yeah. That feels more like a choice, though. This seems like they did it for lighting purposes.
01:16:11
Speaker
This guy looked like he was about to die just shooting Sam a couple times. You kind of just want to see him go already.
01:16:23
Speaker
Why doesn't he leave? He's just defending his house, I guess. But he he fucked up now.
01:16:34
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does I'm curious to see if Sam regenerated.
01:16:42
Speaker
I guess he dipped, right? No, he's still there. He's right there. but The phone got cut. He's getting stabbed with the chocolate thing.
01:16:53
Speaker
It's just his hand. yeah
01:16:58
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It's another version of thing. yeah
01:17:07
Speaker
I'm getting like Munsters vibes. true monsters has the hand right the adams family oh the adams family yeah that's where the thing is look at him and he brought his mask too it's like wake up what a shame
01:17:32
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look at him go and he brought his mask to
01:17:38
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like wake up what a shame
01:17:44
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He looks like a lizard. yay yeah i I don't know. I just and wasn't vibing with how he looks without the mask, but yeah now he just morphs himself back together. Imagine if that was a thing that we could do like break a bone.
01:18:12
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do some voodoo hoodoo and then it just like pops back into place and like seals itself together wait i feel like that is what happens when we break a bone i mean instantly oh okay that's why i said the voodoo hoodoo yeah it is kind of voodoo hoodoo casts that's the work of voodoo It truly is Man, he just took a chomp out of that sucker.
01:18:44
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Bo-do-do-do. Bo-do-do-do. Bo-do-do-do. Bo-do-do-do-do. Bo-do-do-do-do. Bo-do-do-do-do.
01:19:01
Speaker
about to stab him get stab em hurry yep After this, he goes and kills the people from the beginning.
01:19:12
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Yeah, then it does like the full circle where yeah he goes back to the beginning. Man, that's a ah solid candy bar. It did not even break in half when he stabbed it. Maybe it's like a Snickers. Those are pretty sturdy.
01:19:31
Speaker
i used to really like Snickers before, and now I'm like, the they're okay. Yeah, they're not really from me.
01:19:42
Speaker
Not really my type of thing. Look at his little onesie. He's all cute. even looks back like, don't test me again, fucker.
01:19:54
Speaker
He had to put his mask back on too. He was like, how dare you? this He looks like so much more childish now. I like how innocent he looks with the mask.
01:20:08
Speaker
He forgot his bag of candy. On purpose, maybe? Question mark? Yeah, because maybe that's the candy that this guy uses to distribute now.
01:20:22
Speaker
and Then do you know? he was the bus driver. Sorry we spoiled it. That's why he got him because he was like, no, I'm not going to let you forget what happened.
01:20:37
Speaker
I was like the only person who was watching this and did not catch on to that until I saw that picture. ah That he was buster. I didn't catch on to it until I saw the picture.
01:20:49
Speaker
okay, cool. Because everyone else that like I've watched this with, they were like, oh, you didn't know that? I'm like, no, I didn't know that. I'm not trying to guess the ending. They didn't know that either. Those people didn't know that either unless they had seen this before.
01:21:01
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ah It's like... It might be kind of obvious, but I mean, i don't actively try to get ahead of movies, and a lot of people do.
01:21:13
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Oh, so Brian Cox isn't dead. No, he's not. He's just permanently fucked up now. Or not permanently. But he's going to abide by the rules. He's never going to disrespect Sam. So Sam is fair.
01:21:26
Speaker
He is fair. He is fair. Why did he murder the people at the beginning then? Like so horrifically. He only murdered the woman. he didn't fuck with the guy.
01:21:38
Speaker
but it was because the woman was she blew out her candle and said she hates Halloween and was taking down her decorations. But Brian Cox seems like he hates Halloween too, and he killed a bunch of kids. Why isn't his crime punishable by death?
01:21:57
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Sam was just like, nah, I don't care about dead kids. That's actually not my prerogative. ah But you got to start giving out candy or I'm going to come back and kill you.
01:22:08
Speaker
He's watching. He's keeping eye on That's scary. He looks so cute. I love him. Every Halloween, he's just going to be watching. is There's Sam in every town.
01:22:20
Speaker
Is it just this town? I'd like to believe it's just this town. Sam is some like weird cryptid type of thing, like a Wendigo or whatever, and he's just like a part of whatever area, Iowa or something.
01:22:34
Speaker
He's a cryptid that exists in the suburbs of Iowa. I hate this woman. Yeah, so this is the beginning, and this is Sam, his POV, not that a guy who was getting into the car earlier.
01:22:50
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All these pumpkins apparently were made of styrofoam.
01:22:57
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Yeah, it makes sense. That would probably be a pain. like Those pumpkins start to rot once you break into them. Mm-hmm. So for like continuity, if they have to shoot over a couple days, I get that.
01:23:14
Speaker
And who is it? Oh, man. Did Sammy have... Sam didn't have anything to do with this, though. This is a separate vendetta that these guys are coming for.
01:23:27
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Yeah, so I think that's why he didn't fuck with him because he's like, well... Let them have their fun. Let them get get their revenge on this guy, which is such a cool way to end it.
01:23:40
Speaker
Was Sam down there at the bottom when the kids killed those other kids? um He was at the top when Rondo was walking away.
01:23:51
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She did see him there.
Final Thoughts and Future Plans
01:23:53
Speaker
he was just watching them, and then they just showed them like um not crossing paths, but like walking like in opposite directions.
01:24:03
Speaker
I would like to believe that Sam, like, Sam doesn't care about those kids and what they have going on. Maybe he does because they were celebrating Halloween when they died, so he has some affinity for them.
01:24:22
Speaker
But I kind of would like to believe that Sam is very impartial towards everything that isn't Halloween. Anything going around him that isn't related to Halloween, he doesn't care about. So those kids were just like something where.
01:24:37
Speaker
Like Sam didn't even. Care like Sam would have killed Brian Cox if he wanted to, you know, and those kids were like totally separate.
01:24:48
Speaker
You know what I mean? Yeah. i like i Sorry, go on. No, what were saying? I like how the song, the subtitles, they're just saying, ah yeah Yeah, I'd like to know what the song sounds like.
01:25:03
Speaker
But it's just ah, ah, ah, ah. ah ah ah Is that the song? Ooh, ooh, ooh, ah, ah, ting, ting, walla, walla, bing, bing. Yeah, that's good.
01:25:16
Speaker
I dig that. Shout out to Rugrats. ah There's no scary Rugrats movie. There's that a conspiracy theory though. What's the conspiracy theory?
01:25:27
Speaker
I guess the first movie was kind of scary a little bit the monkey scene but what were you saying? um conspiracy theory is none of the babies are alive and it's just angelica i think she's like hallucinating or something yeah yeah the that's kind of fucked up i've heard that i think before um Yeah, I saw these people. It was like assistant to Miss Faye, assistant to Mr. Cox.
01:25:59
Speaker
That's funny that that's what they're called in the credits, Miss Faye and Mr. Cox.
01:26:07
Speaker
um Yeah, you know any of these people? No, i I really don't. You don't know the DI editor? don't. Someone's direct in I did want to see if they actually put this in there. Apparently there was like an inside joke that no pumpkins were ah harmed in the making of this film because they show that one kid, Charlie, smashing all of them.
01:26:36
Speaker
of I wonder if they actually put that in the credits, but they do have that like as a i guess they had that as an inside joke among the crew, which I thought was cute.
01:26:48
Speaker
That is very nice. ah Let's see if it comes up. Q's from House on Haunted Hill. That's good movie, too. I keep watching that. That's like a bedtime movie right now.
01:27:02
Speaker
I have not ah seen that one. House on Haunted Hill? Oh, we got to watch that. Yeah, I haven't seen that. I was looking at The House That Jack Built. Q from Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island. I like that. I've seen that movie.
01:27:16
Speaker
Love it. Superman DC Comics. Very interesting. This is a Warner Brothers movie, so that makes sense.
01:27:26
Speaker
City of Vancouver. Filmed with Panavision cameras and lenses.
01:27:34
Speaker
Fuji Motion Picture Production. i'm pretty sure this is riveting. We'll be wrapping up soon, guys.
01:27:43
Speaker
We're just staying to the end of the credits. um Wow, Warner Brothers just owns everything. The movie, the story, and screenplay, and the score. ah bla but but blah the story are fictitious trick or treat I like the movie's title being up there that looks good alright guys that was our first commentary that was and pretty good I think that went well
01:28:14
Speaker
That did go well. I had fun, even though we weren't talking about the movie half the time. Yeah, it took a little it took us getting into it a little bit, but I had fun, too. I think, you know, if we do more of these, it'll be loose. You know, maybe don't expect 100 percent movie talk. Expect more shooting the shit while we watch a movie together and occasionally commenting on the movie.
01:28:38
Speaker
Yeah, because, i mean, that's what people do when they watch an old favorite. You talk shit about everything else in the world except the movie. Yeah.
01:28:49
Speaker
right. Well, hell yeah. I had a lot of fun doing this. I hope you guys have fun listening to it. I got to rush out of here to see Frankenstein. Yeah. We may be covering it this week, so we'll touch base. You want to text me tomorrow or something later today tonight or tomorrow to let me know.
01:29:08
Speaker
I'll leave it up to you if we'll be covering it. um All right. Yeah, I'll let you know. Okay, so listeners, and and next week, you'll, this coming Monday, actually a couple days from when you hear this, you'll either be getting the listener pick or ah special emergency episode on Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein. So, happy Halloween, guys.
01:29:33
Speaker
You know, go trunk or treat, go trick or treat. ah watch Halloween party watch Halloween go see Back to the Future tonight or Demon Hunter I know those are playing in theaters right now uh yeah have a good one do you have anything you want to send out to the people before we go Just rate us five stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Show us some love on our Instagram, morbid underscore curiosities underscore P-O-D.
01:30:06
Speaker
And enjoy Halloween. And just remember that every day is Halloween.
01:30:25
Speaker
Oh.