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The Witch
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they wrap up their accidental Gothic Horror Season by talking about Robert Egger's feature directorial debut, The Witch! Find out why such a dark movie holds a special place in the hearts of your morbid hosts, as they time travel back to 10 years ago.
And be sure to listen to the very end, where Nicholas and Mercedes announce their next season! The final season of 2025!
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Transcript
Festive Introduction
00:01:12
Speaker
What's up guys? We're Morbid Curiosities, your favorite horror movie podcast. Happy Thanksgiving. Jingle bells. I'm one of your hosts, Nicholas Ewers. And with me is the lightweight champion of the world, the morbid mistress of mayhem herself.
00:01:26
Speaker
Mercedes Martinez. Nick, why are you so festive this morning? It's too early for all of that ah holiday spooktacular shiz. That was that was a lot to take in. How do you do it?
00:01:41
Speaker
It is ah abnormally early record. Usually we're recording maybe like closer to 12 hours later than we are now. We're wrapping up about 12 hours later from now.
Jingle Bells' Thanksgiving Origins
00:01:55
Speaker
But you know we're covering a very Thanksgiving type of movie. It has a very Thanksgiving feel. I feel like the past three years I've watched it in November closer to Thanksgiving.
00:02:07
Speaker
had throw the little jingle bells in there because... I don't know, little fun fact. I learned this when I was in second grade or third grade band playing saxophone.
00:02:18
Speaker
Jingle Bells was actually written for Thanksgiving. Our band conductor would come up in front of everybody and tell a story about how Jingle Bells isn't actually a Christmas song. It was written for a Thanksgiving service and it grew an association with Christmas over time. So keeping it Thanksgiving themed today.
00:02:39
Speaker
All right. That's interesting. I did not know that. Thank you for the clarification there. Yeah. you know a little fun fact to drop on our special Thanksgiving episode. I'm going to keep referring to this one as that even though it's dropping ah about a week before Thanksgiving.
00:02:54
Speaker
That's all good. we're We're getting everyone ready for the the good eats day.
Introducing 'The Witch'
00:03:00
Speaker
Yeah, speaking of good eats, I mean, this movie's got some good eats in it, I think, right?
00:03:05
Speaker
Or is it just about like famine and curses? I mean, they got some good looking crops in there. Their corn was like black as my soul. So yeah, I would say they got some good eats in there.
00:03:21
Speaker
Yeah, very delicious. There's ah like a dinner scene where I think they're eating some kind of soup, not to spoil the whole movie. you know and know we're really getting into the details of today's movie, but- The delicious parts of the movie.
00:03:36
Speaker
ah Pun intended, that there will be butter lately, we promised. so Anyway, ah you want to tell the people what we're talking about today?
00:03:47
Speaker
Yeah, so guys, we've said it before, and today we will be covering the Witch, released back in
First Impressions of 'The Witch'
00:03:59
Speaker
2015. That feels like it's so long ago. Ten years ago, this movie came out. It's so crazy.
00:04:05
Speaker
It is so crazy. i like ah This was one of the early, like I'm getting into film and starting to love it and recognize film,
00:04:16
Speaker
And like the art behind it and how it gets made, like the little details, how it gets shot, who's directing them. This was like at the forefront of those movies I was watching. And it's weird to be here 10 years later talking about this thing.
00:04:34
Speaker
Yeah, this movie, I remember seeing a preview of it and it freaked me out. Just anything to do with babies disappearing, it's disturbing for me to watch. And then funny thing too was so I remember I just wanted to buy my mom a movie for...
00:04:53
Speaker
It might have been for her birthday or something, but my brother was with me at the store and and i was like, oh, I can get her The Witch. I don't think she's seen that yet. And i went to the self-checkout lane because I hate talking to people and i didn't realize that it was going to require an employee to come and check my ID to make sure i was above 18 years old purchasing the movie The Witch. Really? I've never had that happen to me in my life where I've gotten parted for buying a movie.
00:05:26
Speaker
It was so embarrassing and my brother's just laughing at me. I'm like, dude, shut up. I've never had that happen. i never want that to happen again. so yeah that was That was my history with this movie and it it was it was a weird upbringing with being able to watch this film.
00:05:45
Speaker
ah You had your ID on you, I assume? I did, yes, I did. yeah Yes, wow. well ah Good for you, I guess. you know Eternally youthful, I guess you can ah sum that up as.
00:06:01
Speaker
It's the skin care, I'm telling you. It's the skin care.
Mercedes' Film Journey
00:06:05
Speaker
So I first got into this movie, I, back in 2016, the beginning of that year, I i don't know, I, 10 Cloverfield Lane came out. I really wanted to see that. I loved the first Cloverfield and,
00:06:22
Speaker
No one I knew was really that interested in 10 Cloverfield Lane, so I went and saw it by myself. That opened up like a whole new door for me. i was thinking, okay, I could just do this all the time. I don't have to be with somebody to see a movie.
00:06:35
Speaker
I got over the initial like ah weirdness ah of it, but it was really a ah big... breakthrough And then I started seeking out movie podcasts. And this one podcast at the time, they were called Slash Filmcast.
00:06:49
Speaker
They had covered The Witch. And I was like, okay, I'm going to start checking out these movies I had never heard of that these other podcasts are covering. And I remember I made a Walmart account and I was like, going just start buying movies. I was really getting into...
00:07:04
Speaker
movies like full force and Walmart used to own Voodoo, which is now Fandango at home. And if you bought a movie on your account, they would make you a Voodoo account.
00:07:15
Speaker
So in my Voodoo account now is at like almost a thousand movies. It's at like 989, I think on there. And that like is counts bundles as one thing. So it's way more than that.
00:07:29
Speaker
I know I'm taking a while, but I went on online at Walmart and I bought two movies, which are the first two movies on my Voodoo account. Every time I go to the bottom, I'm like, oh, yeah, these two movies was The Kill Bill Bundle and The Witch.
00:07:44
Speaker
And so those are nice. Yeah, those are the first two movies at the very bottom of my Very long movie collection. and I remember watching The Witch. just And it was a big moment. I was so excited. I heard great things about it. I heard it was pretty like terrifying. And while when I first put it on...
00:08:05
Speaker
I thought it was kind a pretty like slow movie. It begins with a bit of a bang. I was drawn in right away to the world, but I had to get used to the pacing. I wasn't watching a lot of slower-paced movies at the time.
Attention to Detail in 'The Witch'
00:08:20
Speaker
Eventually, like a couple minutes in, when I turned on the subtitles and was really locking in with the dialogue, I just fell in love with what this movie was doing. and I started recommending it to a bunch of people.
00:08:35
Speaker
I recommended it to like a group of friends of mine who all said that this movie was terrible. One of them wanted to get into filmmaking. and I was like, even on a craft level, for you to call this terrible movie,
00:08:49
Speaker
I don't know. It's just a weird thing to want to get into filmmaking and still say this movie is outright terrible. if Even if you can't click with the story or the pacing or even the the period that it's set in. Sometimes I struggle with period pieces or even like the way they speak.
00:09:07
Speaker
It can be very difficult to follow what they're saying, even with subtitles on. But just like from a craft level, this thing is such an incredible work of art. It's inspiring that this is a first time filmmaker at the time. Robert Eggers directorial debut.
00:09:26
Speaker
would go on to make Nosfratu we've talked about and a movie I love more than The Witch, The Lighthouse. That's my favorite Robert Eggers movie. I hope to cover that on the podcast one day. There's a special place in my heart for The Witch as weird as that is because this is an incredibly dark and bleak descent into madness, which is one of my favorite subgenres of horror, the disscent descent into madness. But yeah, that's my relationship with The Witch.
00:09:54
Speaker
There is a lot to appreciate in this film, and i feel like I'm not going to do it justice by how I describe it. But yeah, even people who weren't fans of the film...
00:10:09
Speaker
Or the storyline can at least appreciate the art that goes that comes from this film. Like the time period, how attentive to detail Robert Eggers was with literally everything.
00:10:23
Speaker
i think a few details that were incorrect were... Something about the crops and also um when they had candles lit in the house, they were too bright or too many.
00:10:38
Speaker
But for those to be the main errors that came out of this film, that's pretty impressive because everything else that was put in here, like the dialogue, the lighting, the clothing, it does take you into a pretty dark hole.
Themes of Religion and Art
00:10:58
Speaker
so yeah This is actually a favorite movie movie of mine too, surprisingly, because normally movies that are pretty dark, Depending on what it is, it takes me a while to actually like it or even for me to say that I like it even a little bit.
00:11:17
Speaker
It takes a lot. This one, i think I watched it once and I was like, damn, I don't know how I feel about it. But a couple months ago, I wanted to watch it again for some reason. And then I just kept rewatching it I grew to love it. And then when you suggested for us to watch it, I was like, fuck yes, let's go because I really want to revisit this and just dissect it all.
00:11:42
Speaker
It does have a lot of like, in my opinion, beautiful pictures in there, like the scenery, but it does take you down some dark turns, which of course i love and adore.
00:11:55
Speaker
Yeah, you were talking about the language and the era that this is set in. There is an authenticity to it. Robert Eggers, you're right, did put in so much work. And I feel like that's why, i mean, it seems like he does really have to work to get movies made. It sounds like Nosferatu was a bit of a struggle. for him to get that made but this is such like a he proves himself so hard with this movie as i am a competent person who can create a world for you and totally just drop you into it without explaining anything and you will just pick up on what's going on it might be kind of hard at first
00:12:37
Speaker
But even if you struggle with the dialogue, the visual imagery of the movie, I feel like does a good job of getting across what's happening in the movie. You had also mentioned ah ah errors that had happened with the candlelighting that they used in this movie.
00:12:56
Speaker
I wasn't aware that there were any errors. It doesn't come across to me that much, but... As I was watching it, I did kind of get the vibe that this was potentially naturally lit, especially in those daylight scenes, the way light is coming into the barn.
00:13:11
Speaker
It felt very natural to me. The candle lighting actually worked a bit ah like that can be pretty complicated, i guess. I don't know how he would view that it went for Nosferatu.
00:13:26
Speaker
It was the same deal for that. There was a lot of real candlelit scenes for that movie where the candle lighting was their main or only source of lighting. And I found that movie kind of difficult to to see at times.
00:13:41
Speaker
And that might have been intentional, but it kind of pulled me out of the movie. And The Witch, I don't really experience that with. Yeah, you don't pick up on that. And that's why it's it's cool because it was just like a little extra lighting that I guess wouldn't have been accurate for that time period.
00:14:05
Speaker
But this film is just really, really good at just bringing you into their world and their despair everything that they are struggling with and it just leaves you feeling so unsettled there are a good amount of people that say they love this film um and some people that are just like no that is disturbing that was a one and done deal I was listening to the podcast Horror Movie Talk, and I'm probably getting their details wrong, but they were saying like some parents didn't like this film because of you know what happens to two of the children in here. oilers
00:14:46
Speaker
Spoilers for the movie. Oh, shit. Yeah, sorry. Spoilers, everyone. Yeah.
Religious Influence on Perception
00:14:51
Speaker
Yeah, my bad, guys. But yeah, they you don't see certain um the two deaths. Well, you see one of them.
00:15:00
Speaker
The first one, which is the main one, you don't see it. You just it shows the baby um Samuel and then you just see the aftermath.
00:15:11
Speaker
Not his body, not the aftermath specifically, just what is being done to his body. So it's very disturbing. But there's still so much in this film to like that it's hard to say. It's not a favorite.
00:15:26
Speaker
yeah i'm not a believer i've heard people ah say i can't watch horror movies they're evil there's an evil energy i can't really subscribe to that belief at all especially when you like hear these filmmakers talking when you hear robert eggers talk about this movie and the love and care that he put into it and he talks about the authenticity and making a horror movie that feels real to the time. And back then, Folk Tale wasn't tale. It was reality that they were living in. These people actually believed that there were witches and there's a craft behind it. They have full teams of
00:16:07
Speaker
average people working jobs, working on these productions. I don't think these things are evil. Like in a way there's art and there can be kind of unsettling art that kind of focuses on the dark side of theology, but I don't think it's bringing any evil into the world or into anybody's lives at all like a lot of these people making these movies are like dorks like Ari Aster if you watch an interview with him but people think like hereditary is going to bring the devil into your household if you i might watch it or buy it on DVD or something it just it's a bit it sounds like mumbo jumbo to me and not to diminish anyone's beliefs I grew up in a very religious household I went to Catholic school I have like
00:16:58
Speaker
a bit of that still in me. ah So you know what I mean? But all of that being said, this movie and certain other movies I watch, like Long Legs kind of feels this way, where these movies feel almost like there is an evil in them.
00:17:17
Speaker
Like I watched The Witch and i it's almost like I'm watching something I shouldn't be watching. And that's not... the effect that a lot of horror has on me. And it makes me feel like a kid again when I put on Halloween or something. And I think it is my religious upbringing because I put on The Witch and it's like, oh man, like, no, if my family watched this, they would flip shit
Horror and Religious Themes
00:17:40
Speaker
or if they knew. And there's still a little bit of that in me where I'm like, oh, I feel like a little bit of a rebel watching ah movie like The Witch or a movie like Long Legs or something along those lines.
00:17:51
Speaker
I think even for me too, films like these when they have to do with religion or the devil or witchcraft, it's a little hard for me to watch as well because of my upbringing. we weren't super, super religious. We would go to church every so often.
00:18:09
Speaker
My family and I, I did get heavily into religion at different points of my life Yeah, there's always that fear of like, okay, something evil is out there. And there are some films that do make me uneasy watching, like, Piewacket was one that I was like, damn, i don't I don't know if I want to watch this again, but I kind of do want to watch it again.
00:18:34
Speaker
um or even see movies when you see movies not all movies because some of them seem very corny and very generic, but some movies when they bring in a Ouija board um and they're trying to like speak with the dead, some of those can be quite moving. And i mean, when I was younger, my mom, she hated it when we played with Ouija boards, but she was the one that bought my older sister o Ouija board because she wanted one.
00:19:03
Speaker
i think it was for Christmas too. So it's like, okay, well you brought this into our house And I've been telling this to everybody and I feel like I've said it on here too, but I recently got salt and pepper shakers that look like the planchette from a Ouija board and they sit on a Ouija board plate and it looks so fucking cool.
00:19:28
Speaker
I took a picture of it because I'm like, this is actually making me get back really excited to get back into meal prepping. And i started telling people like, I'm going to, you know, get the OG recipes now ah when I talk to the dead just by using these. And it's like, no, I'm not going to really fuck with that because, you know, ah stuff like that does terrify me.
00:19:51
Speaker
But i can at least make a joke about it. Like, I'm not so strict on talking about things like that. But this film, you do see like certain things are literally blasphemy to them.
00:20:06
Speaker
And really, they just live in that Puritan lifestyle where they are just here to work, to suffer. That way, once they die and go to heaven, like they don't have to worry about suffering anymore. They're in God's kingdom.
00:20:22
Speaker
Everyone has their own beliefs and opinions, but just to see how this family is living is like so miserable to watch.
Plot Setup of 'The Witch'
00:20:30
Speaker
Yes, I wouldn't put this in the category of misery porn, but there is...
00:20:37
Speaker
I wouldn't say that I enjoy watching this family suffer, but I kind of, ah to a degree, enjoy seeing the dad get a bit of his comeuppance.
00:20:51
Speaker
For a little bit of like table setting for the listeners, this movie takes place in 1630, It opens with a family, a Puritan family. They're dressed all like pilgrims and everything. Like you'd expect that you saw in like your fucking history textbooks in grade school.
00:21:09
Speaker
They're getting kicked out of their little village, basically, in this big courtroom. And you get the dad, basically him being holier than thou. He's passing judgment upon the people. He believes they're all sinners.
00:21:22
Speaker
They don't quite out say that. That's my takeaway, because the whole time he's going out hunting with the son. And he's like, we're all sinners. Adam's original sin. We're all born with
Father's Hypocrisy
00:21:33
Speaker
sin. He's constantly talking about how they're all sinners.
00:21:37
Speaker
And what feels so good, we're in the full spoiler section. So what feels so good about seeing him get his comeuppance in a way is we see that he's a hypocrite and a liar throughout, but he's constantly passing judgment and telling people they need to to repent ah for their sins and they're not good enough and they don't love God as hard as he loves God. And you see, he throws his daughter under the bus or lets her take the blame for shit that he's done.
00:22:10
Speaker
I mean, you feel bad for the family to an extent, but this this dad kind of sucks. He... i mean, I... Back when I was in rehab, one of my friends, he would read the Bible every day, and sometimes I would just...
00:22:26
Speaker
sit there and listen to him read it out loud. And so many times throughout that thing, it would talk about people say that they're followers of God. They're all hypocrites. And it talks about hypocrisy within the religion so much within at least like the sections I heard him talk about.
00:22:47
Speaker
And I think about that a lot when I think about people who are super super religious and show their hypocrisy without even thinking about it and this guy falls into that category and i'm just like he is someone where it's like you you kind of you don't want to see his whole family suffer and the witch does a bunch of fucked up shit to them that you don't want to see happen it's awful But the idea of like, yeah, you get your holier than that horse
Family Dynamics
00:23:18
Speaker
shit out of here? Like you're not better than anybody.
00:23:21
Speaker
That whole message really resonates with me, I'd guess. I don't endorse the suffering or the witch and the witch's actions. But this guy's this guy was the family's undoing.
00:23:35
Speaker
Yeah. and the point that I was trying to make about like the misery portion of this was just like all the grief that this family is going through.
00:23:46
Speaker
So, you know, they are on a ah land that they're trying to get together for themselves, like grow their crops for the upcoming winter.
00:23:57
Speaker
They have four kids, no, five kids. so They have Thomason, the oldest daughter. Then they have Caleb. They have the twins, Jonas and Mercy. Mercy and Jonas. Yes. Mercy and Jonas. Say it like you care about the twins. Yeah.
00:24:15
Speaker
Oh, I do not care about these twins. They were little shits from the get-go. And the funny thing is, is like I'm always like, man, I fell for the youngest in all these films because they have it hard. like The oldest sibling is being like a dick to them or something because I'm the youngest out of my siblings.
00:24:36
Speaker
But my God, these two little shits...
Anya Taylor-Joy's Breakout Role
00:24:41
Speaker
Oh, my God. the The actors that played them, Ellie Granger and ah Lucas Dawson, they yeah they fucking go at it. like they Wow, they make you really hate these two. um You had mentioned Thomason, too, played by Anya Taylor-Joy. This is like one of her earlier roles. I... like Fell in love with her after this movie. I thought she was incredible.
00:25:10
Speaker
I had a little bit of a crush on her for a while that I've grown out of. But God, she's in like Dune. The Menu is another movie I've what I've love. I don't know if you've seen The Menu last night in Soho. She's fucking Furiosa, Mad Max saga. It's the if this movie gave us any that any gift, it's Anya Taylor Joy.
00:25:33
Speaker
That was one of the things about this film too, that the cast aside from Kate Dickey and Ralph Innocent, how do you, I don't know how to pronounce Ralph in Innocent.
00:25:46
Speaker
Innocent. um Aside from them too, like the cast wasn't that well known. Yeah, it just it really pulls it all together because then, no, you are not focused on their characters from other films or works of art that they've done in the past. You can solely focus on who these characters are in this film, in this moment.
00:26:09
Speaker
You see like the family, you know, they're doing like their daily chores, but then we have the scene where Anya Taylor-Joy Thomason takes the baby Samuel. She's playing with him, like playing peekaboo, and then all of a sudden he disappears, and she looks and sees that you know he was taken into the forest.
00:26:31
Speaker
Well, she doesn't quite know if he's been taken into the forest. He's just like... gone in a very i think it's the trailer for the movie but it's such a well shot scene of just cutting back and forth and then boom the baby's gone this baby that looks like a
Disturbing Baby Kidnapping Scene
00:26:51
Speaker
puritan in real life i don't know where they got this baby but the baby just like vanishes and it's like a mystery to the family Oh, I took it as because like there was a bush that was moving or something, um and that's what she was assuming. but Well, the witch vanished her, but they they think it's a wolf that took the baby. That's like the story that they're spinning, that a wolf came and snatched the baby.
00:27:20
Speaker
But there there is really just like a big question mark of what happened to the baby. And there's a just a denial of the witch taking it that happened.
00:27:31
Speaker
Right, right. Then they show ah scene with a witch and she is, you know, an old hag. She is naked.
00:27:42
Speaker
They show the baby with her and at first he's just laying there and then he's fine. But then they cut to a scene where you just see the back half of the witch walking. and she's like grinding something.
00:27:56
Speaker
So then that's where you know, oh my God, she has just killed this baby. they show her then laying on the ground, putting all the, like smearing all the blood onto her broom so then she can fly into the moonlight.
00:28:12
Speaker
And they do show that. And I guess those were actual facts that, you know, witches were said to have done during the Salem witch trials. I believe i could be wrong. I was listening to a lot of reviews and podcasts on this.
00:28:25
Speaker
But yeah, that whole scene was such a fucked up thing to watch. Yeah, that's the scene that'll lose people. I think if there that'll be the litmus test, like if you can handle this movie.
00:28:38
Speaker
And that's maybe the most fucked up thing that we see. But I love that the movie is just like, there's a witch.
Audience vs. Character Awareness
00:28:45
Speaker
They're not hiding it. They show the audience. The family doesn't quite know.
00:28:51
Speaker
And it's really us as the audience watching them all turn on each other as they try to like figure out are you the witch? Are you the witch? Were we the audience? arere like, no, there's just a different witch out there that chopped up your baby and rubbed its blood all over its body and its broomstick.
00:29:08
Speaker
But that like scene where she's got the baby, it's so creepy and unsettling. It's one of the... like Kids in Peril, we've talked about, is very difficult to watch. This might be up there in one of the harder scenes to actually get through, so I get why a parent would be bail on this thing.
00:29:27
Speaker
One thing that's so unsettling... After she's she's like rubbing her hands across the baby and she pulls out a knife and then it cuts to we like you said, we see her backside and she's like mashing something on this like stoop bowl type of thing.
00:29:45
Speaker
And there's like a rhythm to it and it blends in with the music. And at first it seems like it's a part of the music. And then the sound of her mashing kind of comes to the forefront and it just becomes a bit more upsetting. The fact that this mashing is so musical, but you're completely right about these being authentic details about how witches would behave or different witch rituals.
00:30:14
Speaker
I like that we see her flying on the broomstick, though, as it manages to turn something that could be ridiculous into something incredibly unsettling, and the music swelling at that moment really adds to it.
00:30:28
Speaker
After that, it like cuts to black. And then we do a time jump. We don't know how much time has passed. Their houses and everything is like basically built and their crops are dying and we're just in this despair immediately.
00:30:45
Speaker
yeah and Then um you see that the dad, he takes Caleb out to go hunting. Caleb, he's already like he sees Thomasin sleeping and he does see a glimpse of her cleavage.
00:31:03
Speaker
They are secluded from any other people. He's hitting puberty, so things like are just going through his mind. he checked her out a couple times actually in this movie too like there's a scene later when they're at this river or like stream and he's also checking her out again and you feel kind of bad for caleb he seems like the most pure well one in the situation And yeah, the incest of it all is super gross and and unsettling.
Caleb's Innocence and Struggles
00:31:38
Speaker
He never acts on it, but it just adds to like, God, you feel bad for the situation this dad has placed these fucking kids in. Exactly, because he he's trying to control like those urges. he is put in like a difficult situation and they show like the mom, she's grieving over Samuel, obviously.
00:32:03
Speaker
Caleb and the dad, they're hunting. The dad is quizzing Caleb on like, I think, scripture. But Caleb does start to question what is going to happen to or what happens to Sam. Or I don't know if they were having this conversation this early on or later.
00:32:21
Speaker
I think they were the one where Samuel is going to, if he's going to go to hell, because they're talking about, I think, Adam's original sin. ah might i think it's like Adam and Eve they're talking about. They're talking about Adam's original sin and how we're all born with sin and we're all sinners and we constantly basically need to be repenting for every single sin that we're doing. And yeah, I think that's when the Samuel discussion comes up.
00:32:48
Speaker
It comes up a couple times. Right. And it's sad because Caleb, he's thinking like, why is Sam damned to hellfire when he was a baby and did nothing wrong?
00:33:03
Speaker
If that happened to Sam because he wasn't baptized, what's going to happen to me with my sinful thinking? At that point, he doesn't know what to say. And you do see how proud the dad is and then what he's ashamed that he has done. He does admit to Caleb, I got these traps because I sold or traded them for your mom's silver cup and I guess that belonged to her dad.
Tense Dinner Scene
00:33:32
Speaker
Yeah, that's like not the first crime that he commits against his family. Getting them banished would be the first one. But yeah, he sells the cup to, i think he says Native Americans, and that's where he gets the rabbit traps from.
00:33:48
Speaker
i think this is also the same scene where he goes to shoot at a rabbit and the gun like backfires and hits him in the eye. This guy just can't catch any kind of a break.
00:34:01
Speaker
It truly like feels like this family has been cursed. I do really like the dinner scene that you're talking about where she's like, what happened to the cup?
00:34:12
Speaker
Oh, maybe a werewolf. I almost said werewolf. Maybe a wolf. Maybe a wolf snatched that up, too. And I was like, man, sick burn from the mom. She's just holding the shit against her. But yeah, the dad just not even making eye contact. She says she didn't take it.
00:34:28
Speaker
It's a very tense scene. And you feel for Thomason because you again, the audience is clued in to everything. And we're just watching these people turn against each other, lie to each other.
00:34:43
Speaker
conspire behind each other's backs it's really fucked up You even start to see how the relationships between Thomason and Jonas are and then the relationship between Jonas and Mercy because, again, the two youngest are you know little brats. They are prancing around singing a song about Black Phillip, their goat.
00:35:12
Speaker
And i swear, anytime I see a goat now, i just start singing Black Phillip. Dude, I saw a goat at the petting zoo the other day and it was doing the Black Phillip fucking dance thing and I was like, oh, I guess goats just do that regularly. They're fucking creepy creatures. I heard the goat was incredibly difficult to work with on set. Yes, I heard that too.
00:35:36
Speaker
Animals in general, like Ang Lee says that he won't work with sheep again because I think it was Brokeback Mountain. It was just an impossible task. He was like, I'm just going to CGI everything going forward. So I totally get it. But Robert Eggers was like we're not going to do that. We're going to work with very difficult animals this whole shoot.
00:35:56
Speaker
Yeah, i think he even injured the the dad actually in here, that well, the actual actor. He can take it. He's Galactus. But yeah, the kids, they're singing like this little song, like Black Phillip, Black Phillip, a crown grows out hit his head um to Nanny Queenie's wed. got to sing it like them, annoying and high-pitched. Black Phillip, Black Phillip.
00:36:23
Speaker
A crown grows out his head. Black Philip, Black Philip to Nanny Queen is wed. This girl did not deserve to have the name of Mercy. There can only be one.
00:36:34
Speaker
That is me. But anyway, no one paid attention to this song that they're singing. like They never questioned them on anything. They just like take out all their frustration on Thomas and When the dad and Jonas get back from hunting, you know, they're trying to put Black Phillip back in a cage, gate, whatever.
00:36:57
Speaker
And the dad falls. The mom's, you know, just scolding Thomason like you were supposed to be watching the twins. And she's like, I was, but they pay no mind to me.
00:37:08
Speaker
and you do see like Thomason is always working and the twins are just like doing whatever the fuck they want. And I feel bad for her because it's like she's not doing anything wrong. Clearly, she does feel guilty probably about losing.
00:37:23
Speaker
Well, about Samuel being like taken while under her supervision. but it's like, what a shitty situation to be in. You're trying not to do anything wrong.
Thomason's Internal Conflict
00:37:34
Speaker
you already feel sinful and guilty because in the beginning they do show Thomas in praying.
00:37:40
Speaker
i i forgot her prayer exactly. i think she was saying she's like, broken every commandment and thought. She's neglected her prayers. So it's like they kind of give the setting like, all right, you are sinful from the get go. But she's not, you know, she's just a teenager making her way through this difficult situation, more than difficult situation.
00:38:04
Speaker
I really like that opening prayer that you just mentioned. I feel like it's a great introduction to Thomason's character and where she's at, especially when she says, I've broken every commandment in thought.
00:38:17
Speaker
It's like, so you haven't actually done anything, but you still feel like a sinner. It's a tough life to live. You feel for her immediately. Another thing that I wanted to shout out was you had mentioned when they're trying to get Black Phillip into the pen.
00:38:35
Speaker
That scene, the animal work in that is crazy. Black Phillip and the dad wrestling is going on, but in the background, I don't know how they did this, but the dog is wrangling chickens into the barn too. And I'm like, who's...
00:38:50
Speaker
Someone's off screen directing the dog ah who's working with the chickens. It was like one shot. And I was like, it's the perfect shot. i'm I get why that made it into the movie. It seems like a lot of work went into that. I.
00:39:05
Speaker
Damn, I didn't even catch that. That's a good catch. Yeah, it's pretty sweet. And that's one thing I really do love about this movie too is I notice something new every single time I watch it.
00:39:17
Speaker
And so it rewards a rewatch. I always look forward to putting it on. A question I want to pose to you is, do you think the kids have made a pact with Black Phillip, who, i mean, we'll just say it now, is the devil? These evil creatures are, or these evil entities are...
00:39:37
Speaker
shape-shifting or taking the forms or possessing animals black phillips the devil there's a rabbit that keeps showing up my understanding is that rabbit is the witch i looked it up too and they said rabbits would disguise their witches would disguise themselves as rabbits or hares and sometimes other animals but mostly those so they can get into like barns and steal the milk from the animals and And the families. and i'm like, well, that kind of happens too. Like there's a scene where it's stealing the milk in the barn and like another very creepy and unsettling scene.
00:40:12
Speaker
But ah the question, if you think the kids have made a pact with black Phillip, I, I find it hard to really figure out where they land where I land on that, but I kind of lean more towards the kids are kind of full of shit and they didn't make a pact with Black Phillip.
00:40:31
Speaker
You see, that's what I originally thought because once they're at the part where Jonas was, he had an interaction with the witch of the wood. he seems like he's possessed and the family, they're all trying to pray over him.
00:40:49
Speaker
and The two little kids, they're trying to say- Wait, mean Caleb? Caleb, sorry. Jonas and Mercy, they're trying to say, oh, I forgot my prayers. At that point, I'm like, they're fucking with them. Like, they're just acting so they can pin the blame Thomason.
00:41:06
Speaker
But just rewatching it, the way they talk and how they act around Thomason, they probably unintentionally made a pact with Black Phillip, kind of like,
00:41:18
Speaker
pushing them in the direction of being little brats because I didn't buy that they didn't know their prayers because even when Thomason is trying to you know plea to her dad I am not a witch but it's probably Jonas and Mercy who made a pact with Black Phillip in the form of the devil he grabs Jonas and He says something like he's like kind of yelling at him. And all of a sudden Jonas, him and Mercy, they were just laying there after they couldn't say their prayers.
00:41:51
Speaker
But when he grabs him and says all that, Jonas just starts screaming. So at that point, I'm like, OK, they were probably... putting on an entire act, but now they see that their dad is really pissed off. He's like, oh, fuck, man, I ah really screwed up right now. So I feel like they probably unintentionally made a pact with Black Phillip. Yes.
00:42:13
Speaker
See, my read on it is that I don't think they made a pact. I think they might have some awareness that Black Phillip, he may be speaking to them, communicating with them in some way, but I take it that they've been killed by the end of this movie and...
00:42:32
Speaker
i don't I just don't know if that would be their outcome if they did make a pact with him. I think them not remembering their prayers, I used to read that as that was an act, but I think that might actually be Black Phillip or the witch, a part of the curse, having some kind of stranglehold on the family, on their household.
00:42:54
Speaker
I buy them not being able to remember their prayers, but they just kind of seem like precocious kids to me when I watch it who are just very annoying and, like I said, may have communicated with Black Phillip at some point, but I don't know if they've full-on made any kind of pact with them.
00:43:15
Speaker
It seems like he really... It's hard to tell, because I was trying to pay attention to what Thomason says, Thomas' conversation with essentially the devil at the end of the movie.
00:43:28
Speaker
She mentions something about Mercy and Jonas, I feel like, or the twins, I've never been able to piece it together. I think it's purposely ambiguous.
Fate of the Twins
00:43:39
Speaker
I don't know if there's a clear cut answer, but it just given that the kids died, I've never been able to fully be like, oh, they made a pact because I feel like they would be alive by the end of this. But they are just as tortured as the rest of the family.
00:43:57
Speaker
so Did they die at the end or did they just end up missing? Because when I first watched it, I thought they died. and Then the second time I watched it, I just thought they weren't there anymore. They don't really say.
00:44:12
Speaker
i don't even think they- show us i try to look inside the barn i don't really see them but the witch is there drinking the blood of whatever animal i think it's a goat that's in the barn with them in the middle of the night and then everybody wakes up screaming screaming and then it's daylight the witch is gone the animals are slaughtered You don't really get a clear like view inside the entire barn.
00:44:42
Speaker
I don't know if they like straight up say what happened to the kids. I mean, I would buy that they made a pact with Black Phillip. I've just got to watch it a bit more clear. Just the behavior of the kids before that just strikes me as precocious kids. Even when they're at...
00:44:58
Speaker
the lake scene we were talking about where Caleb checks out Thomasin and Thomasin basically lies to them and is like, I'm the witch. They're genuinely afraid and they get out of there. And that is kind of Thomasin's undoing, even though she was like, I'm, she's just trying to mess with them. That's the wrong move to make because the kids are convinced. And they're like, Thomasin admitted this to us, like their reactions to all of this but make me feel like they're somewhat innocent in everything.
00:45:32
Speaker
and That's why i was saying like unintentionally making the pact because they were thinking, you know this is all fun and games. We're just going to fuck with our sister.
00:45:43
Speaker
I take it as they were probably like snagged and killed at the end.
Family's Suffering Highlighted
00:45:48
Speaker
yeah that That's my take on it. Plus, I feel really bad because when the dad does like lock them all into the board like or board the barn outside,
00:45:59
Speaker
They're there all night. They were probably fucking freezing there. This family just like suffers through a lot. Yeah, we had touched on Caleb's suffering a little bit, but I kind of want to do a little bit of a deeper dive
Ralph Ineson's Impactful Role
00:46:12
Speaker
into that.
00:46:12
Speaker
Also, this plays into how unfairly Thomason is treated. There's a conversation at one point in the movie where it's Ralph in Innocent, who I also want to shout out.
00:46:24
Speaker
This movie brought him into my life, and I can't watch like Fantastic Four or The First Omen without thinking, oh, that's the dad from The Witch. It just so burned into my brain, this role. And I hope that's not the case for everybody. And Other people are really able to enjoy him beyond that, but he's so much the dad from the witch to me.
00:46:50
Speaker
William and Catherine are talking about Samuel. I think they're talking about how he's in hell right now. And they're talking about sending, like they're talking about the family being damned and sending Thomas and off to go work basically so they can have money for food. It seems like that's the gist of the conversation and,
00:47:12
Speaker
thomason and caleb are upstairs listening while the twins are sleeping and they decide to go i think hunting caleb's like i'm gonna try and hunt bring food back thomason's like i'm gonna come with if you don't let me i'm gonna tell the parents in all of that they come across the rabbit again who again i'm led to believe is the way ah the witch Caleb goes chasing after it. Thomason falls and like bonks her head. It looks like Thomason is to blame for all of this again. And Caleb is lured with a younger, like beautiful version of the witch in one of the few jump scares this movie has when like the old hand grabs the back of Caleb's head as they kiss and he goes missing for a while.
00:47:57
Speaker
The other jump scare in the movie is the dad gets rammed by Black Phillip at the end. that Both scenes get me like every time so hard. And I don't know if they're intended to be your traditional jump scare, but it works for me. I never see them coming. I am delighted by them.
00:48:16
Speaker
But ah Caleb is missing up until this point and things don't go better from
Intense Possession Scene
00:48:21
Speaker
there. That whole scene, it's unfortunate for Thomas and it's unfortunate for Caleb. They're in a a bit a bit of a a pickle.
00:48:28
Speaker
And with the jump scares, i like that they don't have like unnecessary loud noises or bangs throughout the film to give you those jump scares. You have them at the right moments.
00:48:40
Speaker
Those really got me. I think I turn away when I see the witch and Jonas because i don't want to see that little jump scare. i know it's coming and it just makes me feel horrible watching it.
00:48:54
Speaker
But I'll watch Black Phillip run into the dead every single time. That shit's funny as hell. It's brutal. The scene with Caleb in the woods, that's actually one that i look forward to a lot when I watch the movie. And when I think about this movie, I think about that scene a lot. It's so methodical, I guess. It might be the right word. is.
00:49:15
Speaker
It feels like we've stepped into ah fantasy. The witch looks like Little Red Riding Hood, kind of. She's got an apple. It feels very, but like, out of a fairy tale. And I know this is a New England folktale.
00:49:32
Speaker
Basically, then when we get Kayla back, we get a really... The actor Harvey Scrimshaw, he gets a really great showcase of his acting ability where it feels like it's long takes. The family's praying over him. Mercy and Jonas, it's the scene where they've forgotten their prayers.
00:49:50
Speaker
Their acting's incredible. Everybody's bringing their A-game, but Caleb is the centerpiece of this whole scene. And it's almost like... an exorcism, but not really. It has the intensity of every great exorcism scene that you'll see in a movie, even though it's not really an exorcism.
00:50:13
Speaker
He is like suffering. He's praying. He coughs up an apple, and the family's like he's been witched. It's an incredible scene and just a great showcase for this actor's ability. I really...
00:50:30
Speaker
Harvey Scrimshaw hasn't went on to do much, and that might be by choice. He's obviously 10 years older now, too. He's aged, probably hit puberty. It would be very different performances, like a very different person acting.
00:50:46
Speaker
But my God, is he fantastic having to memorize all of this dialogue in the way that it is. I mean, all of these kids having to do it. ah Harvey in this scene in particular just blows me away every time what's asked of him and how hard he delivers.
00:51:04
Speaker
Yeah, and I guess the way he got the role was he was going shoe shopping with his mom and she told him like, you can either do this audition or we'll go shoe shopping. And I guess he didn't want to go shoe shopping. So he auditioned for the role and, you know, he got it.
00:51:23
Speaker
So that's crazy to think about with the performance that he gives because It is insane the way his body contorts, the way he's screaming.
00:51:34
Speaker
it is unbearable to watch. Like even that part, I have to look away because i know the outcome of it. Yeah, that whole scene alone, it's like this kid really carries that scene and he does it phenomenally.
00:51:49
Speaker
I was watching a bunch of different interviews with the actors and it was pretty great to see like Ellie Granger, the little girl who plays Mercy, just hearing her talk about the movie. It didn't seem like she really knew that she was in a horror film, but my God, she seems like such a smart kid. All of these kids seem great. I know Anya Taylor-Joy is an adult now. I think she might have been 18 when this movie was filmed, like pretty close to that age range.
00:52:20
Speaker
But even watching those interviews, I'm like, man, it is like watching a kid version of this actress I've watched grow into one of... Maybe one of the best actresses we have today. If she's not one of the best actresses we have, she's in some of the best movies that are being put out. That means something.
00:52:39
Speaker
It is kind of wild because now I know her as this like very serious, I'm an artist type of actress. But watching her like get excited in these interviews, I was like, it does feel like a throwback to...
00:52:51
Speaker
10 years ago it feels like ah different era in these actors careers in my life even in robert egger's career yeah i don't know it was it was so just pleasant watching all of these people talk about this movie they all seem like they loved being in this thing lucas dawson who plays jonas he was the only one who wasn't in any interviews that i saw I was watching a video from Rocklin Graves on YouTube and he was going over how all the actors in this film look like their facial features compared to Anya Taylor-Joy's. Her face looks very soft, damn near angelic, honestly.
Casting Choices
00:53:33
Speaker
Compared to everyone else in the film, especially the parents and even the two kids, Jonas and Mercy, they all have more of hardened looks on their face. So it does kind of pave way for her to be like she doesn't belong in that family in that time frame.
00:53:54
Speaker
I thought that was a cool fact to get into. Yeah, everybody basically dies. It works out badly for everybody. And then after this descent into madness, I should say to the mom, she dies by like a crow eating at her breast all the way to her heart.
00:54:12
Speaker
I assume after she sees Caleb and Samuel holding her silver cup. but She doesn't die at that part. Oh, yes, I forgot. yeah The way that she goes out, actually, that can bring me to tears. It doesn't, but like it could because she comes out, she sees that the father's dead and she thinks, you've witched our whole our cursed our whole family.
00:54:41
Speaker
and she just starts attacking thomasson She's on top of her on the ground and Thomason, like the only thing that she's saying to her mom is I love you repeatedly.
00:54:54
Speaker
you feel for her because, you know, she does have love for her mom, even though throughout this entire film, the mom basically hates her. And now she thinks, okay, she killed everyone, even the dad.
00:55:07
Speaker
So then, yeah, she grabs like a tool and like stabs her mom just to defend herself. God, that's hard to see because then her mom's blood does spill on Thomason's face.
Mother's Death Scene
00:55:22
Speaker
That alone is scarring like your mom attacking you. But now you just had to kill your mom because if like you didn't kill her, she was going to kill you.
00:55:32
Speaker
Yeah, thanks for bringing that up. i That happens every time I watch the movie. I forget the mom isn't dead in that scene. Then she comes back. It's almost like Freddy Krueger coming back or Michael Myers coming back.
00:55:47
Speaker
Yeah, and the mom gets... She's like strangling Thomason, and Thomason doesn't kill her until the very end when she has to. And she it's not just one blow. She has to keep stabbing her in the side of the head.
00:56:01
Speaker
And then she like goes, sits down, puts her head on the table, falls asleep, ends up going to Black Phillip and asking to make a pact with him, asking to speak with
Thomason's Pact with Black Phillip
00:56:12
Speaker
him. And we basically start off just hearing his voice, I don't remember the full monologue, but i there's something so chilling when he's like, wouldst thou like to live? He whispers it like, wouldst thou like to live deliciously?
00:56:28
Speaker
Wouldst thou like the taste?
00:56:32
Speaker
And it's like so chilling. Like him mentioning butter feels very biblical. i don't know. It reminds me of like the promised land, the land of milk and honey. It feels like such a basic thing that we all have now and take for granted.
00:56:48
Speaker
But butter is a delicacy to these people. And I used to view this as almost she's being liberated from ah very oppressive family.
00:57:02
Speaker
But like watching it this time around, it almost felt darker than i had ever viewed this movie because she can't sign her own name.
00:57:12
Speaker
That's something I've never really thought about. She probably shouldn't know how to read or write. like Women just weren't allowed to do that. And he's like, I'll ahll guide your hand. I'll help you sign your name. Even though there's like a willingness and she's laughing and smiling by the end of it as she like floats into the air with her newfound witch family, it feels like she's going from one oppressive family where religion is being used to abuse, where it's the control of this man who is just dictating and guiding you along the way.
00:57:47
Speaker
And she's just moving into another oppressive family religion where a man is just guiding her along the way. He like guides her hand to sign the paper.
00:57:58
Speaker
it just feels like trading one form of oppression for another form of oppression. I'm not ah saying that religion is always used to oppress.
00:58:09
Speaker
you know There's a lot of positive cases of God and having faith in people's lives lives. I'm not trying to discount any of that. But this case with Thomason, religion is used to oppress, to put her down.
00:58:26
Speaker
It is like a very abusive and toxic family and a household. And it just seems like she's going to be put below another man who is just going to tell her what to do and how to live her
Satanic Church's View vs. Hosts'
00:58:40
Speaker
life. And I've actually heard like the satanic church say this movie is about female liberation and all of that.
00:58:49
Speaker
I don't really pay much mind at all to the satanic church or what they have to say about anything. But that's their take if you wanted to hear it. So I was perusing the books in Barnes and Noble not that long ago, and I found one that, you know, just caught my eye. It's called Black Sheep by Rachel Harrison. And it's saying, you know, there's always one in the family.
00:59:18
Speaker
And i guess this girl, she escaped the cult and was invited back for her friend's wedding. And she does go to it. And she's surprised that she was invited because typically when you leave a cult, you're not really invited back.
00:59:36
Speaker
so I'm like oh it sounds cool like let me get it so I was reading it and my mind has not been able to focus these days at all so it's been hard for me to pick up on it but it's a cool way to start it you see the main character her name is Vesper she seems to be like a really hardened character but by the time she gets back to her hometown She was already expressing, you know, like, I i hated the way, like, things were. like she didn't have a good relationship with her mom.
01:00:11
Speaker
She, you see, like, how everyone was um behaving differently. when they were all in doing like the preparation for her friend's wedding. And when they all say their prayer before they start to eat, they yell out, Hail Satan.
01:00:31
Speaker
And I was like, wait, did I read that right? Or was she like trying to like mimic like their religion? And she's like, yeah, I was part of a Satanist um church here. I'm like, oh, snap. They...
01:00:43
Speaker
Okay, so that didn't... I did not expect that. So now I just... I'm intrigued to see how things pan out in this story, but that just reminded me of it.
Book Discussion on Satanist Cult
01:00:55
Speaker
And yeah, like again, everyone has their own beliefs and they're welcome to their own beliefs. But yeah, I do agree with you where Thomason is essentially just leaving one man's control to go into another.
01:01:10
Speaker
and I feel like you can... sub in different religion and different people like imagine the witch but you call it i don't know the actor or something let's say and instead of black phillip living in their shed it's tom cruise and instead of a witch in the woods it's l ron hubbard and And at the end, Tom Cruise makes her sign a pact to join Scientology.
01:01:37
Speaker
And then she floats up and wins an Oscar for best actress or something like that. that You could do that. I don't know if it's as good of a movie, but it's an approach. You can sub in different oppressive religions out there.
01:01:54
Speaker
There's extremists in every religion, every culture. it just takes one person to think like that and a few people to follow them and you see what happens. Either they live the life that they live think they're going to live and you know they continue thinking they're doing no wrong in the eyes of god or something disgraceful happens yeah it can be you know any religion or any culture or person plugged into these roles and probably get the same or similar outcomes well got any final thoughts on robert eggers the witch
01:02:38
Speaker
Just that it's worth re-watching you guys have seen it and didn't like it or for whatever reason, whether it's, you know, the dialogue. I know it's hard to kind of focus on it.
Rewatching 'The Witch' with Subtitles
01:02:54
Speaker
I'd say try to watch it with subtitles because, yeah, certain things that they say, it's it's crazy. I think there's the part at the end where the dad is yelling at Thomason He says something along the lines of like the devil's tongue is like wiggling in your mouth because he didn't like what she was saying.
01:03:15
Speaker
So like if you actually put in the time to listen to what they're saying, it does pay off. And just look at any other like visual cues or just like the setting that they're in.
01:03:30
Speaker
And it can make the next time you watch it so much better. And if you don't like it, you don't like it. But it's worth a rewatch. Again, I really like this film.
Robert Eggers' Filmmaking Style
01:03:40
Speaker
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I like it from the setting, from the tension that's like constantly there and, you know, the unknown that they're dealing with and all the grief. I love this film and will probably rewatch it again soon.
01:03:57
Speaker
Yeah, this movie is awesome. It's unique. The craft behind it is incredible. Robert Eggers would only go on to make movies with way more craft on a bigger scale. has the werewolf coming out.
01:04:15
Speaker
If you guys haven't checked out The Lighthouse, that's a bit smaller of of a movie, I'd say. But I really ah really love that one, too. The Witch is just a special, special movie. And like I said, it's inspiring on a lot of levels, seeing that this is a first time filmmaker hearing that ah he had to make a short film to get this funded. He said it was his second real or second good short film.
01:04:41
Speaker
And he was really adamant about everything being accurate to the period. and it really pays off on screen you feel sucked into this world and i'm i'm here for every robert eggers release he's up there with del toro in terms of i'm taking these myths and bringing them to life but he's doing them in the real horror way where del toro is doing it in the fantasy way and it's Kind of cool we get to bookend this accidental season of gothic horror with del Toro's take on Frankenstein and Robert Eggers witch story. I'm all about it.
01:05:25
Speaker
This has been ah great three episode season. And I'm The Witch incredible. I'm so glad that I got to watch it
Future Podcast Plans
01:05:33
Speaker
for the podcast. It felt like a reward almost for doing this thing, getting to watch a movie that I do have some kind of a connection to and a history with.
01:05:45
Speaker
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01:06:01
Speaker
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01:06:19
Speaker
And coming up for our next season, we announce it in our last episode. We're going to tell you again right here. We're covering the four wreck movies. So some Spanish found footage horror.
01:06:31
Speaker
I think they're all found footage. Mm-hmm. I can't be. Yeah, I haven't seen all of them, but this is going to be one of the highlights of starting this podcast. I've been talking about doing Wreck for so long, watching all of these movies.
01:06:48
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One of the things that excited me the most about doing this is really covering some weird and obscure horror movies, especially as we get into later entries Wreck.
01:07:00
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certain series i'm excited to talk about maybe lesser discussed horror and this feels like a great opportunity too i also wanted to give a quick plug go check out my other podcast these guys got juice i'm doing coverage on the tv show pluribus on apple tv plus those episodes we're about to drop episode three our coverage on episode three i think i'm not editing those episodes so i don't know exactly when they're gonna drop but It'll probably be out by the time this episode comes out. So keep an eye out for that. And thank you guys for supporting this podcast and being here for our coverage of Robert Eggers, the witch.
01:07:40
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We've been morbid curiosities. Hell yeah.