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The Others
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they dive into their first ever LISTENER PICK! It only took them 40 episodes to take to the streets and hear from the people, but they finally did it! They're talking about the 2001 horror film that made it into the Criterion Collection, directed by Alejandro Amenabar, The Others!
They kick off the episode with some Scream 7 trailer reactions. Nick also briefly discusses the first two episodes of Pluribus, and his initial (spoiler free) thoughts!
Stick around 'til the very end, because they announce what they will be doing for the next 5 weeks of movies!
Remember to follow us on Instagram @morbid_curiosities_pod
Email us at morbidcuriosities10@gmail.com with comments/questions/concerns/recommendations
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Transcript
Introductions and Holiday Cheer
00:01:12
Speaker
What's up, everybody? We are back here at Morbid Curiosities. We are your favorite horror movie podcast. And i am one of your hosts, Mercedes Martinez. And with me is probably your favorite host, the nefarious necromancer over here.
00:01:27
Speaker
Nicholas Ewers, howdy y'all. Happy November. Merry Christmas. I know Mercedes loves hearing that. Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. What's up with this favorite co-host stuff? Damn. i I know that was a compliment, but I was like, oh shit. Like, did I do something wrong?
00:01:44
Speaker
No, you just come with all the facts. You always come with your A game. And I'm just like, yeah it's a it's a good compliment. Yes, take the compliment and just take back that what you said about you know the holiday that should not be named right now. And then we'll be good.
00:02:00
Speaker
Again, Merry Christmas. where We're in the holiday mode.
Scream 7 Trailer Discussion
00:02:06
Speaker
we're We're about to actually open up the episode talking about a very wintry type of movie. So, ah guys, ah the Scream 7 trailer dropped recently.
00:02:15
Speaker
It's a very, you know, Christmassy type of movie. They usually drop in the winter. Mercedes, you you got to watch the Scream trailer, right? I did. i watched it the other day. rewatched it right now. and I'm curious to hear what you have to say about that.
00:02:33
Speaker
Kevin Williamson, longtime writer, hasn't been in the franchise for a while. They brought him back after firing... or firing one of the leads and another lead quitting. And then the radio silence guy is leaving.
00:02:48
Speaker
Yeah. So he's back writing and directing this time. I kind of mentioned on our scream five or scream six episode that that sounds like a bad idea. It's usually not a good sign.
00:03:00
Speaker
and I don't know how you feel about it. i still am kind of of that mindset.
Critique of Scream 7 Trailer
00:03:06
Speaker
I don't think this trailer looks good, man. I'm pretty worried for the movie. You're shaking your head. What what are you thinking?
00:03:14
Speaker
I am very disappointed seeing this trailer, and it kind of pained me to have to watch it again right now. Yeah, I saw it whenever it was uploaded online.
00:03:28
Speaker
i was like, okay, let me watch it. And I'm looking at it like, damn, this is such a fucking letdown. You can literally feel the shift from how Scream 5 and 6 were compared to this.
00:03:44
Speaker
And you know now they're bringing back Neve Campbell, which, of course, a lot of people will... probably love. like I know a lot of people are excited for that, but at the same time, everyone is more so like mourning the losses of the other two actors or actresses, I should say.
00:04:04
Speaker
um so This doesn't look like it has a good storyline. It looks like they're trying to put in like some creative kill scenes. I feel like they're copying... um the movie Halloween ends with the stare sequence like in the beginning where that kid just like breaks his neck which is hilarious. I was getting ah Halloween vibes overall. There's a shot of the daughter, Neve Campbell's daughter. is Spoilers for the trailer of Scream 7, I guess.
00:04:40
Speaker
But yeah, there are shots of Neve Campbell and her daughter with her three friends. I was like, that feels very Halloween. It seems like they're trying to do like a Halloween 2018 type of ah version of Scream.
00:04:53
Speaker
And it, oh man, it just looks so bad and bland.
Analyzing the Scream Series
00:05:00
Speaker
Very. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how it's going to turn out. um You can see, too, that with each film now, they're trying to modernize it. like In part five, they had the app to lock your doors on Jenna Ortega's phone.
00:05:21
Speaker
And now with this one, you see it Nev Campbell guiding her daughter through the cameras while she's like basically looking at a ring camera or something on her phone.
00:05:32
Speaker
Yeah, they're they're trying to include little things like that. Okay, it still doesn't look great, unfortunately. Pretty disappointed in how this trailer looks, but we'll see how the movie pans out.
00:05:43
Speaker
Another thing, too, they're bringing back the two of... Well, I didn't mind Chad, I think, is the guy twin's name. Yeah, Mason Gooding.
00:05:55
Speaker
Yeah, but they're bringing back his sister. ah She's the worst character. We've talked about this maybe in the whole series. They're bringing her back, so that's disappointing.
00:06:05
Speaker
Neve Campbell's character has like completely run out of steam, it feels like. I don't know. It just seems like there's blood in the water already for this one, and we'll probably be covering it, but it seems like this franchise has ran out of steam, and I say that as a several months-long fan of the series.
00:06:30
Speaker
Yeah, like we all have our favorites with the Scream films. that um I was watching a couple of them the other day and it was just like reminding me like, damn, we were in the Scream universe for however long it took us to cover those. Like six years, I think it took us to watch all of those movies.
00:06:51
Speaker
Exactly. My hair is so gray from watching all of those. It took so long. It's funny, too, because people have asked me because I'm such a big Halloween and Michael Myers fan. They're like, how come you guys haven't covered Halloween yet?
00:07:06
Speaker
And I just respond because that is going to be a long time, a long season to cover. Yeah. Even with the other franchises we've done, like the longest one we've done was what child's play?
00:07:21
Speaker
Yeah, probably. Yeah, so being able to see how this one, Scream 7 is coming out. It's just they should have just dropped the whole idea of Scream 7. After everything panned out the way it did, it's like, OK, you know what? At this point, let's just not continue forward with it because I really don't think they're going to be able to salvage anything with the storyline that they're coming up with. So I don't know. But yeah, we'll cover everything once it comes out.
00:07:51
Speaker
And in regard to us covering Halloween, I know we've flirted with the idea, but I do have an idea in my head for a way we could execute that and not feel bogged down in so much Halloween, like ways we could break apart the season. We could slot in new theatrical releases in between movies, you know.
00:08:16
Speaker
That's what I was thinking too. like The ones that kind of seem like they're smushed together for their storyline, we could cover those, cover something else, then go back to the next ones, then cover something else.
Rob Zombie's Halloween Discussion
00:08:28
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yeah You see, this is why you're the favorite co-host because you always come with the ideas. Well, you had the same idea, it sounds like. but it sounds like yours was more organized and well-rehearsed and you know you just you're in it to win it, Nick. Just just accept it.
00:08:46
Speaker
I plan meticulously and then those plans fail I don't know why that was hilarious to me.
00:08:59
Speaker
Oh, man. Speaking of Halloween also, and then we'll get into the movie we're covering, I swear. Yeah, one of my October watches for Halloween was Rob Zombie's Halloween 2. And man, gotta say, holds up.
00:09:13
Speaker
I can't wait to cover that. I think you might be turned around on that one. I still haven't watched that one again and since God knows whenever I watched it rewatched it.
00:09:26
Speaker
I was actually watching his first take on Halloween, ah Rob Zombie's Halloween in October as well. I think I watched that once for enjoyment and then another time for when I was meal prepping. So, you know, i I kind of like that one. And I think I had mentioned too, um it just kind of gives me a homey feeling because my nephews watched it when they were little, even though they shouldn't have been watching that film.
00:09:53
Speaker
And because they heard the Monster Mash song in there, they would call it Halloween Mash. Okay. If they wanted to watch that. Yeah. Monster Mash, maybe the best Halloween song ever written.
00:10:06
Speaker
yup Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, it's it's withstood the test of time. I don't know what to say.
Shoutout to Vince Gilligan's Pluribus
00:10:12
Speaker
Quick shout out to Mercedes. I don't know if you're a Breaking Bad fan. Apple TV Plus this weekend, the show Pluribus just debuted. It's a sci-fi show from Vince Gilligan, the creator of Breaking Bad.
00:10:24
Speaker
Great show. I loved it. Just want to throw that out there before we get into our movie. If... It's not related to Breaking Bad at all, but it's I am so bought into the first two episodes. So check that out, guys, if you're looking for some nice TV that almost borders horror at times.
00:10:43
Speaker
I didn't get into Breaking Bad, even though everyone told me to. i tried to, but I couldn't. so All right, so it's time to get into the the movie pick. You guys have read on the episode already. Unless you're blind, then i apologize for being insensitive.
00:11:01
Speaker
We'll stop withholding the movie that we're covering. Mercedes, you want to introduce the movie to the people?
'The Others' Listener's Pick Introduction
00:11:06
Speaker
Sure. So, guys, we are starting this new thing where we do a listener's pick for you guys.
00:11:15
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ah We had a few people write in, but we wanted to, you know, give our first list listener's pick to Lance Roberts, 94. He's been, like, an avid listener. He's always, like, communicating with us. And this was one of his suggestions. So today we are going to cover...
00:11:35
Speaker
The 2001 film, The Others, starring Nicole Kidman. So, well no, not spoilers ahead yet. What did you think of this film, Nick?
00:11:48
Speaker
This is a movie I've tried to watch on several occasions, and it could never really click with me.
Initial Impressions of 'The Others'
00:11:55
Speaker
It's a really slow type of movie. My girlfriend and I actually tried to watch it pretty early on into our relationship, and I think like 20 minutes in, I was like,
00:12:05
Speaker
Do you want to change this? I think it might be kind of artsy-fartsy. It's on the Criterion Collection, and if you know what that is, it should tell you a lot about the movie. They don't put a lot of horror on that, and if they do, it's not typically jump-scare horror or something that is really...
00:12:25
Speaker
Super pulse pounding, and I don't mean that as a slight. They've got a lot of great horror on there, but it's not your Blumhouse horror or your a twenty four horror, something along those lines.
00:12:38
Speaker
They usually have a slower pacing and some higher concept to them, or they're touching on something that other mainstream horror isn't touching on.
00:12:51
Speaker
All of that to say, when I put this movie on for the podcast, I was kind of worried. I was thinking I might not click with it. And watching a couple days ago and yesterday, i was like, OK, let me really try to lock into this thing.
00:13:09
Speaker
And there were moments where I struggled. There were moments where it lost me. It's a pretty slow movie at the start of it. As the movie gets going, there are moments that really captured me, moments that I really got drawn into, and then other moments of dialogue where i was like, this is kind of a slog.
00:13:27
Speaker
Then in the final act, things start to ramp up, and where we land is a place that I found very satisfying, has kind of stuck with me i could see myself re-watching this movie and getting more out of it i've been thinking about it a little bit not a crazy amount but the ending i would say justifies watching it and if you enjoy this type of pacing this type of old school almost 30s 40s 50s horror type of pacing
00:14:04
Speaker
then you'll really click with this.
Exploring 'The Others' Setting
00:14:06
Speaker
This movie's doing interesting things, and I thought it was beautifully shot. I thought it was mostly well-acted. It's just ah really beautiful to look at, I guess.
00:14:17
Speaker
um I'm not saying that as a slight. It's not the most entertaining ah horror movie. It doesn't function as a horror movie a lot of the times, but I ultimately, because of the ending, ah enjoyed my experience with this.
00:14:34
Speaker
Yeah, i remember seeing the trailer whenever, like 2001 when it came out, but I never watched it. And then I would see bits and pieces of it when it aired on TV.
00:14:50
Speaker
And the only thing I really remembered was, you know, the part where Nicole Kidman sees her daughter play. under like a little veil, but it's not her daughter.
00:15:01
Speaker
um so that was the main thing that I remembered. So once I put it on for the podcast, like you, i kind of had to, you know, make sure i was in a, ah like I had time to really zone in on this film and not be distracted. And I'm, I feel like am one of the worst people to watch a movie with.
00:15:27
Speaker
If it's not in a movie theater because I'm very fidgety, like I'll get up and and like if I'm eating something, I want to get up and clean that or throw it away or go grab something or I just like move around a lot. So I try to at least have like something in my hands just to like mess with, but also to just like focus.
00:15:50
Speaker
And I was a little nervous watching this because i was thinking I wasn't going to be able to ner focus. The funny thing is, is yeah, after like the first maybe 20 minutes or so of this film, I actually did lock in on it and i was really getting into the story.
00:16:08
Speaker
But yeah, it's such a slow type of burn movie where it comes in later where you start to get like the impact of the film And I don't know, I think I was more involved with the first half of the film compared to how I was with the second half, just attention-wise.
00:16:27
Speaker
and don't get it why, but yeah, the score in here is very haunting. It matches the setting. like I love how it's foggy everywhere, and you know the the mansion that they pretty much live in is always dark.
00:16:43
Speaker
So Yeah, it's a beautiful movie to appreciate the scenery and the background in there. But yeah very, very slow burn.
00:16:54
Speaker
Some parts, they did capture my attention. I will say that. Alright, so spoilers ahead for the others. We'll get right into it. Just to do a little bit of table setting, this movie takes place in 1945, post-World War two on some type of manor.
Unpacking 'The Others' Plot
00:17:13
Speaker
don't... It's on like an island, or like some type of channel island. i don't...
00:17:18
Speaker
remember exactly where it was located um new jersey channel island something along those lines i could be getting the phrasing a little wrong but it takes place on this manor and basically begins with uh nicole kidman and her two children they are greeted one day by these three housekeepers nicole kidman welcomes them into their house and is just like okay you're our new employee employers gives them The run of everything. We meet their kids. They're pale white. They have a condition to where if they're exposed to sunlight, they'll start to blister up very quickly.
00:17:56
Speaker
Their father is has been off at war and hasn't come back. They're awaiting his return. And basically... There's talk of some type of ghostly figures in the house.
00:18:11
Speaker
And then we get going from there. So right off the bat, like, what did you think about all of this? Like the setting, the foggy manner, like visually, I thought it looked pretty cool. It's very muted, though, I would say.
00:18:26
Speaker
Random side note before I jump into that, just because you said the word visually, i really feel embarrassed because when we were covering Bring Her Back, I meant to say visually impaired and I kept saying visibly impaired when I was talking about the main actress in there.
00:18:46
Speaker
So when I was listening to our episode, i was just beating myself up for that. It was a little funny, but, you know, cringe. So sorry about that, guys.
00:18:56
Speaker
But yeah, so the intro, nice setting um just because, you know, I like when things are more on the darker aesthetic. Everything is foggy, like the whole environment.
00:19:10
Speaker
When you you are introduced to Nicole Kidman, just when she opens the door and starts talking to the caretakers that are there, she talks like she's going to be like a very fragile, delicate woman.
00:19:25
Speaker
But then once she comes in or brings them in and starts talking to them a little bit more, you see she's a little more attractive. authoritative. It even bothered me when she's like trying so hard to get like the younger one out of the three.
00:19:41
Speaker
it was Lydia. She was just like, oh, cat got your tongue or something like because she wasn't speaking. And Mrs. Bertha Mills was saying, oh, she's mute. And Yeah, so you get like the whole setup. Something's wrong with these kids. you need to keep the house like in a very strict, dark manner.
00:20:04
Speaker
And it just felt quite odd. You know, it sets you up to just question like what the hell is going on?
Speculating on 'The Others' Themes
00:20:11
Speaker
The kids, they're in this big old mansion, but they are typically confined to one general area or bedroom because they're photosensitive.
00:20:21
Speaker
or photosensitive to light. Yeah, you just get like that, you know, um little bit of a claustrophobic feeling because all the windows are closed and the blinds are closed and you only have a little bit of candlelight.
00:20:36
Speaker
It just gives you that unsettling, uncomfortable feeling. Yeah, I was just waiting for the other shoe to drop like, okay, well, what's going on here? She seems to have everything under control. She seems...
00:20:50
Speaker
you know, very set in her ways, on religion. But you do see, like, little by little, they start to question her. And when they do, she gets easily frustrated by that.
00:21:01
Speaker
I don't know about you. I basically saw the twist of this movie coming from a mile away. I didn't know exactly what was going to happen. And so we're in the spoiler section. i feel like the movie would kind of be more interesting to talk about in...
00:21:18
Speaker
like if we acknowledge the twist and we're able to kind of dissect the movie in the shadow of the twist. So if you're cool with it, you nodded your head. It seems like you are if I just throw out what it is.
Plot Twist Explanation
00:21:31
Speaker
So basically everybody we're seeing in the house, they're the ghosts this whole time. Nicole Kidman is dead and I won't reveal exactly how she passed. I guess I'll withhold that till the very end um unless you wanted to talk about it at any point.
00:21:47
Speaker
but um All the housekeepers, they died of tuberculosis years ago. We find that out in the last act of the movie. And Nicole Kidman and the kids, they're all dead.
00:21:59
Speaker
The ghosts that were, or the quote-unquote ghosts that we're getting... are actually the new family that's moved into the house. And they talk about how occasionally these two realities touch each other and interact with each other, but usually the ghosts won't notice the people occupying the house.
00:22:20
Speaker
And I kind of thought that was a pretty interesting spin on a ghost story. It does make me want to go through and re-watch everything, but...
00:22:34
Speaker
Yeah, the kids and their skin condition, even though that wasn't that didn't have anything to do with them being ghosts. I was like, these kids, they feel like they're dead. Everybody in this house feels like they're dead right now. And I just I wasn't trying to get ahead of the movie, but I kind of got there pretty quickly.
00:22:54
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like everyone who watched this film could pinpoint what was going on and, you know, the twist with it. Of course, I couldn't. I just assumed that the children were dead. i didn't think everyone was dead. So the fact that they all were, that was a nice little spin that I did not expect.
Child Actors and Character Relationships
00:23:16
Speaker
But yeah, looking at the kids, you're like, damn, these kids look like little fucking vampires when they come out there. They have very like pale porcelain looking skin. And it it was bothering me so much because I thought the one who played the who played ah the son, Nicholas ah James Bentley, Yeah. i I actually thought that was the guy, are Rowan Campbell from Halloween Ends, just because they have a lot of similar facial features. I'm like, no, that can't be him. That can't be him. And I made sure to look it up. That was one of the things that did distract me in the film. These kids never really acted again after this movie. They only have two to three credits respectively.
00:24:02
Speaker
Yeah, I saw that because I was wondering, did they go on and pursue more acting roles after this? And I don't recall ever seeing them after this film.
00:24:16
Speaker
um And I think that was another reason why i wanted to see if um these two individuals were the same person. I do wonder how their performances were received at the time because the daughter i could tolerate and get on board with, but Nicholas, that character, no offense to the actor, i could not i found his performance to be very annoying. i He felt in line with kid actors that I could not vibe with.
00:24:47
Speaker
Really? i kind of feel yeah i kind of feel the opposite. i don't know why. Maybe it's just because when i see children, especially little girls who are like super sassy, and you could see they have an attitude, it's just like...
00:25:06
Speaker
fuck up. But she was right ah or close to being right the whole time. She was the only one who's like, I kind of see what's happening here. And Nicole Kidman was frankly like frustrating me throughout the movie because she's screaming at the help the whole time. And I'm like, listen to your daughter. I mean, and she's like borderline abusive towards her daughter. I was kind of riding, not borderline. I mean, she's straight up abusive at one point towards her daughter. so i was like,
00:25:35
Speaker
on her side actually throughout like a good chunk of the movie i mean as much as the character of um the daughter bothered me what is the daughter's name again it's uh ann uh as much as her character bothered me after a certain point i was sympathizing with her more because Even when, you know, she's trying to tell Nicole Kidman, like, you know, what's going on, the ghost she's seen and how Nicole get Kidman gets like angry at her because she keeps bringing up like little ghost stories, essentially.
00:26:13
Speaker
And her punishment is to just stand on the stairs or sit on the stairs and read from the Bible. and All of a sudden, Nicole Kidman is like hearing these.
00:26:24
Speaker
I forgot how the scene played out. She like heard some noises. and um when she was trying to like have and tell her like what she sees or what she knows about them,
00:26:37
Speaker
and was like, I can't tell you because I told the truth once and I got punished for it. So now I don't know what to say. And I actually felt so bad for her because it's like, damn, that is like such a confusing moment for this kid because she is like being told constantly by her mom to tell the truth, not to lie, or else you're going to go to like a kid limbo essentially when you die.
00:27:05
Speaker
And when she tells the truth, her mom gets mad. So she's like, well, what the fuck am I supposed to do at this point? So, yeah, she does have some redeeming qualities for me. But I don't know. I think Nicholas's character, he's just cute. He's confused and he's the younger out of the two. So normally i can favor with the younger boy compared to the younger girl.
00:27:29
Speaker
No, man, there's a scene where the little girl ah sees the gravestone that reads like Bertha Mills. And she's like, Nicholas, they're all dead. And he's like, I don't believe you. You you play tricks on me too much. And it's like, oh, my God, kid. And she's like, they're coming for you. They're dead. And he's like, just standing there. And I'm like.
00:27:52
Speaker
You know what? Let him die. let Let the ghost get him. That's fine. He's dead weight. Are you a middle the middle child? or I'm the middle child, yeah.
00:28:04
Speaker
Yeah, and that's why, because you have a younger sibling, The younger sibling perceives things differently than the middle or the oldest. And I mean, quite frankly, the girl was um and probably wasn't trying to scare Nicholas the whole time because she was seeing ah a boy named Victor and he's thinking, OK, she's just trying to scare me.
00:28:28
Speaker
But yeah. Yeah, when you're just like tricked and tricked time and time again from your older siblings, like after a certain point, you just don't want to believe them.
00:28:42
Speaker
But we, the audience, we see that that hand isn't Anne's hand. We see that ah there is some type of what we think is a ghostly apparition at the time. it's Now ah we realize it's a human boy that they've managed to communicate with.
00:29:00
Speaker
who there I think I get the impression that Nicholas is sleeping in Victor's bed or something like along those lines. Probably. Yeah. I think what makes it more frustrating is to the audience, you're clued in pretty early on that something is happening and you're like, kid, get on the same page. youre like, you're just here existing, not paying mind to anything happening around you, just confused constantly.
00:29:29
Speaker
You're not cut out for this world, this ghost world that you found yourself in. Well, look at it from his perspective. Their mother has literally sheltered them from direct sunlight, from the outside world.
00:29:46
Speaker
They don't know any better, but obviously the oldest, Anne, her mind is developing a lot quicker. So she does have all these questions and you even see that Nicholas himself has like some disbelief where I forgot what he
Themes of Grief and Loss
00:30:06
Speaker
said. He doesn't, I don't think it was something he didn't believe in or I think they were trying to say that doves are unholy.
00:30:12
Speaker
You could see they aren't fully on board with all the beliefs that Nicole Kidman has. So of course he has this childlike point of view, but I will not lie, at the end when and is trying to convince him like, oh, all three of the caretakers are dead.
00:30:31
Speaker
you know, I am thinking like, all right, this kid's about to die. And if he dies, well, then he dies because he's just standing there. But I felt his pain on that. ah Related to those ah headstones, ah I found it pretty funny the moment where Nicole Kidman walks out and she's like, I was told there was a grave here or you know, on the property.
00:30:53
Speaker
And they're like, I don't know anything about a grave. And then the one dude just picks up a pile leaves and covers up a grave when she walks away. I'm like, okay, like that's kind of funny. I don't know if it was meant to be funny.
00:31:07
Speaker
But I like you guys didn't notice these graves in your front yard. Exactly. i found it funny and it just made me think like imagine it being kind of like a cartoon thing where, you know, Mr. mr why don't i remember anyone's names in here uh mr tuttle he's like every single day piling and raking all these leaves on that gravestone or that little cemetery you're making sure there's always a pile nicole kidman is like never asks like hey how come you don't do anything with that pile of leaves right you just keep adding to it
00:31:46
Speaker
That alone was just honestly very, I'd say, Nicole Kidman being oblivious in here. Her name is Grace. She doesn't even question them.
00:31:57
Speaker
Like when they walk into the house, she's just like, you must be here to work and doesn't even realize that The ad that she sent out to the paper to hire these people never got sent out. it So from the top, she's kind of totally oblivious to what's happening around her.
00:32:16
Speaker
And I don't know if that's necessarily ah criticism of it i don't i think it might just be kind of saying how like we get lost in our own grief she's grieving her husband who she doesn't know to be dead yet she just knows him to be off at war but i thought the execution was still pretty funny and amusing Yeah, there's even a point where Bertha and Nicole Kidman, um i I should just keep calling her Grace, or I should, yeah, call her Grace.
00:32:49
Speaker
ah How about Tom Cruise's ex-wife? You could just call her that for the rest of the episode. yeah so Tom Cruise's ex-wife and Bertha, they're having um a conversation and you know Bertha tells her death of a loved one can lead people to do the strangest things.
00:33:09
Speaker
and Her saying that, that's a pretty powerful statement because it's true. We just witnessed it and bring her back when you have Sally Hawkins, is it? Please tell me that's her name. Yeah, the Shape of Water herself.
00:33:26
Speaker
Yeah, so they have her, you know, trying to do like some demonic voodoo hoodoo shit to bring her ah daughter back by sacrificing another young girl and really is convinced that it can work without consequence.
00:33:44
Speaker
Even here, you know, you end up finding out that the caretakers are there to get Tom Cruise's wife or ex-wife ah to accept the fact that, you know, they're all dead.
00:33:58
Speaker
so On the way there, you know Nicole Kidman has created this whole world where her kids are still alive. They can't be exposed to light. and like Every single door needs to be locked. like She still needs to be like that strict mother figure for them to fill in also for their dad not being there.
00:34:22
Speaker
And it's just a lot of crazy stuff that you see as she like eventually is you know dealing with the fact that she did kill her two children.
00:34:33
Speaker
And one thing I ah love, too, is basically all of the husband stuff in this. Once he shows up... so I don't necessarily love a husband away at war or the husband is away and we're off screen hearing about the husband and waiting. I don't necessarily love that.
00:34:55
Speaker
Like the 2019 Little Women... ah Has a little bit of that. And then we get Bob Odenkirk. And I'm like, God, why were we withheld Bob Odenkirk? I'm so glad that he's here. And I forgot Christopher Eccleston was in this movie. I ah saw his name in the credits and it just slipped my mind as I was watching it.
00:35:15
Speaker
But when he popped up, I was like, oh, great. I fucking love seeing Christopher Eccleston. And immediately, because it's after the tombstone thing, the headstone thing that we had just mentioned, she leaves through the front gate and they mention that the fog won't let her go too far. So that's another thing where I was like, she must be dead.
00:35:35
Speaker
but Why else would there be some weird myth thing? And then her husband appears through the fog and reminds me of this movie Annihilation. ah He really doesn't know where he's at, kind of, or like how he got there. It seemed like he was just looking for Nicole Kidman almost in the fog.
00:35:55
Speaker
And immediately then, too, I was like, he must be dead, too. He must have died at war. and We get this moment of what ends up being these two ghosts having their goodbye together. And he's like, I've got to go back to the front line. So we are kind of led to believe that these ghosts cling to where they passed, basically.
00:36:21
Speaker
And I really... I really jived with all of that stuff. It worked so hard for me. I don't know about you. And I think it might be the Christopher Eccleston of it all.
00:36:32
Speaker
I don't think her and Nicole Kidman had particularly great chemistry. i mean, it wasn't intended to be this big spark of a moment.
00:36:45
Speaker
They do make love at a certain point. But i just liked the ideas that were happening in all of this. Yeah, when the caretaker says, you know, the fog won't let her get far or um whatever line that was, i was thinking, okay, well, yeah, she's probably just going to get lost in there.
00:37:07
Speaker
But i knew something was wrong when her husband showed up because... How is it that after all of this time, as soon as she leaves the gates of her home, that's when her husband decides to reappear? Okay, something's up with that.
00:37:25
Speaker
Still didn't really catch on to it, though. I also was figuring, okay, she might be dreaming. But yeah, they didn't have like any chemistry while they were together. But I mean, their interaction was brief. So that didn't bother me as much as it typically would.
00:37:43
Speaker
Because then, yeah the rest of the time he is just in bed and you're assuming you're like me and didn't know the whole um plot twist that, you know, he's just dealing with like, you know, the PTSD of being um at war.
00:38:02
Speaker
There's even a moment where he is sitting there and it was after Nicole Kidman had like yelled. She did slap Anne or something, right?
00:38:13
Speaker
At the dinner table. Yeah, she has a couple of pretty aggressive moments with Anne. There's a point where she straight up manhandles Anne too. Yeah, so this um this point, like, you see she's so frustrated, so drained, and i mean...
00:38:35
Speaker
I want to say rightfully so because she has to take care of her two children on her own. She is homeschooling them, essentially. She's trying to you know instill all of her beliefs into them while making sure they stay alive because she's still under the impression that they have this condition towards the sun. She's doing it all on her own as a single mother and Now that her husband is back, he's just like upstairs in the bedroom.
00:39:05
Speaker
So when she goes up there and is trying to just unwind, you see him. He's just sitting at the edge of the bed, and he said, you know, Ann told me everything about that day.
00:39:18
Speaker
So it's like, okay, now once you understand what the twist of the movie is, I'm wondering if like that was a moment where Anne told the dad like, yeah, you know, mommy's the one that killed us or this is what happened.
00:39:36
Speaker
And obviously Nicole Kidman wasn't at that point of um closure yet, but Maybe she was just grieving in different. Well, she is grieving in different stages, obviously.
00:39:49
Speaker
Yeah, that was just sad to watch because then he's telling her, yeah, I'm not here to stay. i have to go back. in that heartbreak that she had to have felt like.
00:40:01
Speaker
Yeah, I felt it like that was pretty tangible. That was a ah hard moment to watch. You had mentioned Anne maybe having told the dad. I don't know how much Anne knows at this point. I actually don't even know how much the dad knows about what happened. Everything is kind of discussed so vaguely that I don't know if he's just like, my family is dead.
00:40:29
Speaker
She must have done something to cause this. I don't really, and don't know how much, how in the know Anne and and ah Christopher Eccleston are.
00:40:42
Speaker
I don't know. I just took it as like maybe that was like her way of telling the dad like everything that happened. um But at the same time, too, yeah, since Nicole Kidman still doesn't know that she killed her two children, maybe Anne was just telling her just about like the altercations ah her and her mom had together.
00:41:05
Speaker
I don't know. There's a lot to just kind of interpret on your own with this film. At least you get somewhat some closure from the dad's character. Now the kids got to see him.
00:41:19
Speaker
ah Grace got to see him and they think he's alive. But then now he's gone. Yeah, we do come to find out by the end of the movie, Mercedes has already alluded to it, that Nicole Kidman killed the kids and killed herself out of grief for the husband dying at war.
00:41:40
Speaker
I assume that's what had happened. um ah They might have straight upset it too, but yeah, the husband died at war. Nicole Kidman ends up getting depressed, takes her kid's life, takes her own life.
00:41:53
Speaker
And they, she kind of says that after she shoots herself, she could hear her kids laughing in the other room and she's like, Oh God gave me a second chance. So immediately when they're dying, they're entering into this ghostly form and not knowing what happened, but,
00:42:10
Speaker
the characters kind of learn and we as an audience are informed of how, of what's going on basically by, ah after those helpers really are revealed to be ghosts and they're coming after the kids, coming after Nicole Kidman's characters and what we think to be ah threatening way, the kids end up getting quote unquote captured by the
The Seance Scene and Revelations
00:42:36
Speaker
intruders. Nicole Kidman enters the room and we see a seance being performed. I was just like, oh shit.
00:42:43
Speaker
That's okay. i I like how this is presenting the information. And then we get a POV change where it's basically the owners of the house kind of talking about their perspective. They talk about how when you had mentioned Anne becoming the old lady at one point,
00:43:07
Speaker
That was actually Anne possessing the ah the medium who who's here to help the family. So we're getting all of these reveals and really piecing together. Like, Victor is this family's son, and they intend to move out of the house.
00:43:24
Speaker
I thought this was all a great... way to reveal all of this and then the movie drastically slows down to for Nicole Kidman to really have her moment to explain what happened but I loved all of the medium stuff I don't know about you Yeah, that part, that surprised me, but I thought it was a cool segue just to you know, bring everything together. okay, everyone is dead here, including Nicole Kidman.
00:43:56
Speaker
They are legit doing a seance, and it's a successful one because you even see Nicole Kidman tearing up all the papers, and then they do, like, that little turnaround scene where it's just the papers being torn up on its own.
00:44:12
Speaker
And, you know, the family, they're seeing, shit, this is actually happening, you know. I want to say maybe there could have been more added to that scene, but at the same time, I think it had just enough of the, like, added fluff, added tension that it needed for this film.
00:44:31
Speaker
i kind of get what you're saying, but i I, don't know, I felt like it was pretty tasteful for what the movie was doing. I really liked how the daughter was yelling mommy. And then the one dude was translating like mommy. And he's just kind of repeating back everything that the kids are saying amongst themselves.
00:44:53
Speaker
And I was just like, okay, I could, I was like recalling other ghost movies that I've watched that, where it's just random words are being said. And I was like, okay, this kind of makes sense. Like there's other shit happening in the room. The ghosts are interacting with themselves, maybe. I don't know.
00:45:13
Speaker
And we're picking up on what they're saying to themselves. They're maybe not clued in to the fact that they're being contacted, but these people are like, we've made contact with all of them. Yeah, I really bought into all of this.
00:45:25
Speaker
And another thing that I thought was cool was basically you find out that Nicole Kidman kills her two children by suffocating them with a pillow.
00:45:36
Speaker
There was ah moment where all three of them were having um dinner together and Anne's frustrating Nicole Kidman just with what she's saying.
00:45:49
Speaker
And herself just gets like upset and she starts like breathing like angrily. And Nicole Kidman's like trying to get her to stop and then like actually says stop breathing. And I'm like, damn, that was probably what she was thinking while she was suffocating and like.
00:46:08
Speaker
stop breathing and then the same thing later because ann says the same thing to nicholas when they're hiding in that little closet so that was that was a little like sad to hear that that's dark yeah that's that's why i was like damn why did i have to think about that but honestly that's just how i um understood that part Yeah, I didn't even catch that, but yeah, that's a pretty dark thing to think about. And like to say, with all of this context provided, yeah, this is a movie I do want to go back and re-watch to kind of see if the breadcrumbs were laid out a little bit more than I realized before.
00:46:50
Speaker
Like, I was trying to think about the curtains that were pulled down right before the climax of the movie. That must have been the actual family. Why did they pull the curtains down? What was their endgame?
00:47:04
Speaker
All of these little things. The room where everything is covered up with basically a bunch of blankets and you hear... ah it sounds like someone is in the room. What is happening in that?
00:47:17
Speaker
The scene at night where the piano is being played. I can assume, okay, someone was up late at night playing with the piano and they were having a fucked up ghost experience where someone kept opening the door and fucking with the piano. So I would like to go back and check this one out now that I have this added context.
00:47:36
Speaker
It just makes you think like of all the incidences you have had personally where you kind of think, like how did this just happen?
00:47:48
Speaker
But then you have to kind of just think, okay, well, you know some logical explanation is there. I just don't know what it is, and you move on. um But here, yeah being able to rewatch it, you could see like,
00:48:02
Speaker
how both of those worlds are just meshing. And it does make you sad because it's like, damn, all these ghosts, they are stuck in this house now and have to try to find like their acceptance on the fact that they are dead.
Concept of Limbo in 'The Others'
00:48:20
Speaker
It's just a little sad, too, because you would think, like well, maybe... Well, no, not really, because I was going to say you would think that the dad would get to stay with him. But at the same time, like he did go just to kind of say his piece like, yeah, I did die. I'm not coming back. And, you know, that's where his soul is going to be at, at the battlefield where he died.
00:48:42
Speaker
So it just it is depressing to think about, like If they didn't have the best, that sounded so bad. If they didn't have a peaceful ah death, then you know, they're stuck in their own form of ah limbo, so to speak.
00:49:00
Speaker
Ian, I didn't particularly love the limbo concept. I'm like, okay, what is limbo? Inception says it's unconstructed dream space.
00:49:10
Speaker
That's what I'm thinking the whole time now I hear them mentioning limbo. I'm like, unconstructed dream space. That's where they're at right now. But no, I was like, just make it.
00:49:22
Speaker
I mean, you're already leaning into the Christ thing. i don't know what part of Christianity has a limbo as a part of the belief system. Make it. I mean, is that a substitute for purgatory? Is that what they're trying to say? Make it purgatory.
00:49:37
Speaker
Make it heaven. Make it hell. Limbo doesn't strike me as a biblical term, typically.
00:49:48
Speaker
It feels like almost sci-fi kind of. It feels like that game, Limbo, that black and white game with that little boy. you played that? No. At first, I thought you were talking. Isn't Limbo where you have the bar and you got to go under it? Is that Limbo? Well, that's also Limbo, yes. That's Limbo? Okay.
00:50:11
Speaker
Oh, God. i used to have a game Chicken Limbo, and there was a chicken... at the center of the bar and you can adjust everything, but it played the most obnoxious song.
00:50:23
Speaker
And if you hit the chicken, he just started like baca-ing the whole time and being even more obnoxious. I don't know why the hell I had that game or who gave me that, but Anyway, no, Limbo, i it was on, like, um it was a downloadable game. It's all black and white, and you see this little boy. He's just trying to, like, make his way through Limbo, and all these, like, traps and creatures can kill him.
00:50:53
Speaker
Like, he's been split in half. He's been, like, he's able to fall on, like, a tree stump and die, and um you only see his silhouette and, like, a little...
00:51:05
Speaker
hole for his eyeball and everything else is just like shadows. So it's a little, it's eerie. I'm surprised you haven't heard of that. What did you play this on? Yeah, I've never heard of it I think it was a PS4. Like I was able to just download it off of there or I don't remember, but yeah, a few people know about it. You got you got to look it up. It's it's worth looking up.
00:51:30
Speaker
I'm sure there will be six season TV adaptation done by Netflix or Amazon eventually or seven movies and a whole cinematic universe created on it. So I won't even need to play the game. I could just watch it.
00:51:48
Speaker
Yeah, probably, probably. But yeah, that is my frame of reference for Limbo is Inception. And yours is this chicken video game, it sounds like.
00:52:02
Speaker
Yes, that is that is my take on Limbo. Yeah, so I didn't love that that was the term being thrown around in this movie that takes place in like 1945. don't know. That doesn't, again, like I said, strike me as a biblical term.
00:52:20
Speaker
yeah, you go to limbo. like Limbo's where all the children go if they lie. Okay, at that point, you're just telling like them a tale to scare them, which every parent does, but if you're already on the religious boat, like you might as well stick with that and not mesh anything else together with it what it sounds like she's talking about is from dante's inferno i think where there's different levels of hell because then the daughter comes back and is like you said this level of like limbo or whatever was for kids who lie but it's actually for unbaptized babies i think that's a conversation they have and i was like
00:53:05
Speaker
that's ah That's out of Dante's Inferno. And I think, yeah, that is like the first one of like the first like level of hell is unbaptized babies. So, but yeah, the terminology seems kind of mixed a little bit.
00:53:22
Speaker
Is there anything else liked in the movie? Anything else you want to shout out or talk about? mainly just the aesthetic of the film like i again it was a little hard to watch because you get that kind of claustrophobic feeling just being in each room and you know grace makes it a point that all the doors need to be closed and locked before another one is open even though You can clearly see that she doesn't do that herself when she's in a state of panic worrying about her kids. I noticed that too. I didn't know if that was a lack of awareness from a filmmaking perspective. Like, did you guys not catch that these are the rules you set up and you didn't make sure that door got closed in that shot?
00:54:13
Speaker
Or are you really trying to show that she is flippant with her own rules? But they don't really, they don't always do something with that. Like there's a moment I noticed she leaves a room and she leaves the door wide open.
00:54:26
Speaker
And I thought that seems more like a filmmaking error than an intentional thing that's going to affect the plot in any way. And I don't think that door being left open has any bearing on anything.
00:54:39
Speaker
I took that as that was her just slowly... losing it essentially because she even argues with the caretaker that, you know, her or Lydia must have left one of the doors open. And she was like, well, are you implying that I did this? Of course, I wouldn't do this. But you see, at one point, she thinks like one of the kids are crying and she tries to, you know, open a door, but then remembers, oh, yeah, I forgot to close this other one.
00:55:15
Speaker
So she does go back, but then little by little, when she enters a room, she doesn't close the door. So I figured that was just like done because she was slowly forgetting about doing that.
00:55:27
Speaker
But if it doesn't have any effect on the plot, it doesn't seem... Unless they're trying to show that the leaving the doors open thing doesn't really mean anything...
00:55:40
Speaker
There are times when she does it and it doesn't like they don't call attention to it. It there's nothing that comes from her leaving the door open at times. It doesn't feel like the movie is trying to say anything about it in those moments.
00:55:55
Speaker
Yeah, it was just, it was strange um because you could see, but to me, since I couldn't figure out the ending, I was just thinking, well, you know, clearly these kids can survive in larger rooms or with the doors open or in hallways with like some light illuminating the area.
00:56:16
Speaker
So yeah, at that point, it just wasn't making sense to me. So then once the blinds were all removed, you would think by the time Nicole Kidman got to the kids room because she was outside, if it were true that their condition was still um active in their bodies,
00:56:36
Speaker
They would have already had blisters on their skin already, but they didn't. so something was wrong at that point. And it's because they're dead already. o
00:56:47
Speaker
i do want to shout out. You had mentioned how this movie looks aesthetically. It was directed by Alejandro Amenabar. I think that's how you pronounce it. I could and have it a little wrong.
00:56:58
Speaker
This is the only movie I've seen from him. I don't really... i can't speak to his directing style, but... A lot of the camera work I found to be pretty elegant.
00:57:11
Speaker
A lot of the movement was very smooth and elegant. i It really adds to the calmness, I feel like, that falls over a lot of this movie.
00:57:23
Speaker
And the way it's lit, I don't know, it it seems like it is a lot of natural lighting. I could be wrong, but that was the vibe that I was getting when I was watching it. All of it, I think, adds to... Or I think all of it is enhanced by Nicole Kidman's performance.
00:57:42
Speaker
I think she's just doing a lot of nice, subtle work here. It's very theater actor. I could see myself watching her perform this on stage. It feels like she slipped right into the role.
00:57:54
Speaker
And I, yeah, I thought she was great. Very well-suited, very good casting for what this movie was trying to do. She felt very of the time and of the world.
00:58:07
Speaker
And very ghostly. Yeah, I thought she was very well casted for this role because, again, whenever the situation or the scene called for it, for her to seem very delicate, and don't want to say mousy-like, but you know fragile.
00:58:27
Speaker
She's like a porcelain doll that will shatter if it falls over. Yeah, but then she does have her moments where she's like in her mama bear mode where she fucking has a shotgun where she's walking around the house trying to figure out who's playing the piano. and you know, yelling at the caretakers when she thinks they have done something wrong or done something that she doesn't approve of.
00:58:52
Speaker
Yeah, but just like her clothing, her makeup, her hair, just her in general, that alone interested in the film, just seeing how her character was.
Concluding Thoughts on 'The Others'
00:59:06
Speaker
She's not like great with um everything that she tries to, you know, get her kids to believe and how she talks and treats other people. But just her appearance of her character, I thoroughly enjoyed.
00:59:20
Speaker
Yeah, um anything else from the movie that stood out to you? Any other performances, any other scenes you want to shout out? You know, I had mentioned the whole breathing, like stop breathing sentence. That really stuck out to me the most out of this because, yeah, you end up finding out, okay, this mother did kill her kids by suffocation and then kills herself by shooting herself.
00:59:48
Speaker
and is now in this state of purgatory essentially with her kids and needs to find her own type of closure if they get to move on after this.
01:00:03
Speaker
It's unsettling to think about um because, you know, yeah, people have said... you know, when you die, where does your soul go? Or they've asked that. um So it ends up like, you know, opening that window of, okay, let's start thinking about this. We don't have to talk about that here, but that's where like your mind does go after this.
01:00:24
Speaker
Yeah. And ultimately these two separate like ghost families, these housekeepers who passed of tuberculosis, who now occupy the house and Nicole Kidman and her kids are basically We have to get along in this afterlife. We share this house. This is where we reside.
01:00:42
Speaker
I don't really know where heaven and hell is in all of this. Maybe... don't know. You'd think if they were liars and sinners, they would go to hell. But they're stuck in this limbo, haunting the house, and they basically have to coexist together, and they have to also find a way to exist with the living. And they'll occasionally be interacting with them. But...
01:01:05
Speaker
It ends on a pretty somber note. Nicole Kidman gets a really lovely moment with her children and the family moves out and we're on our way. I yeah i quite enjoyed where it wrapped up.
01:01:18
Speaker
I liked where it landed. Good movie. i I have it on the Criterion Collection, but I
Listener Acknowledgment and Future Plans
01:01:24
Speaker
didn't get to watch it. I wanted to be able to do some kind of deep dive into that, but I didn't get a chance to. Maybe I will in the future.
01:01:34
Speaker
This movie feels worth owning. I'm glad I bought it. Glad we got to watch it for the podcast. It feels good to finally check this off the list. It feels like essential, not just horror viewing, but essential film fan viewing.
01:01:51
Speaker
This movie seems pretty important to a lot of people, and seems it was very important to Nicole Kidman's career. and Yeah, i'm glad I got two experiences for the podcast.
01:02:06
Speaker
That's where I'm at with this one. Yeah, thanks again to Lance Roberts for, again, just being OG with us and suggesting our first ever listeners pick. and whenever we decide to do another one that spot is up for grabs for anyone else who wants to write in and give us suggestions on what we should cover next.
01:02:31
Speaker
Speaking of covering next week, guys, we kind of stumbled. We found o ourselves in subs in an accidental miniseries thanks to Frankenstein coming out and Lance picking the others as our movie to cover.
01:02:48
Speaker
He also picked Darkness Falls, too. He suggested that one, so we'll probably eventually cover that one. too, but the others was really the the sweet one that kind of stood out. It seemed like a good opportunity to talk about that one.
01:03:02
Speaker
But we've stumbled into a gothic horror season, and we're going to round out this short season next week with Robert Eggers' The Witch. It's going to be a fun one. And Mercedes, are you cool if I just announced what the next season we got coming up is after that, so people have time to prepare and track these movies down?
01:03:24
Speaker
Yeah, go for it. After the Vavich, tell us what we have coming up. We're going to be covering the Wreck movies. Bracket, R-E-C, close bracket.
01:03:36
Speaker
Our first, I think, international film. our first i mean I don't know if every movie we've covered has been produced in America. like Bring Her Back wasn't.
01:03:48
Speaker
But it's our first non-English speaking film, I want to say. Our first foreign language film. So I'm pretty excited about this.
01:03:59
Speaker
it's We're diving into some more zombie, zombie adjacent type of territory. I've seen the first one already, and I think I might have seen the second one. I've seen Quarantine already.
01:04:12
Speaker
As well. I don't know where this series goes, but I think this is going to be fucking bug nuts. And I'm kind of happy that this is how we're going to be spending our November basically is covering these wild ass Spanish films.
01:04:30
Speaker
Yeah, I'm really excited to revisit this because I have only seen the first Wreck film and Quarantine.
01:04:41
Speaker
And I didn't even watch Quarantine when it came out. I didn't know about Wreck at all either. i think my mom was watching it and then... I walked in a room like, what the hell are you watching? So yeah, I haven't watched this in years.
01:04:58
Speaker
I'm anxious to watch it because I know it's going to fucking freak me out. And yeah, I'm excited to watch this film. i I'll just save it because I don't want to jump too much into it, even though I haven't watched it in a while.
01:05:13
Speaker
ah Yeah, it's going to be a good ride, guys. Make sure you tune in on that. So next week, like I said, we've got Robert Eggers' The Witch. And if you're looking to watch the Wreck movies, actually, this is kind of cool. The first one is streaming on the Criterion channel.
01:05:31
Speaker
So just like this was a part of the collection, this one in a couple of weeks, Wreck is a part of the channel. It's also free to watch on Tubi.
01:05:42
Speaker
And then Wreck 2, also on Tubi. Wreck 3... also on Tubi, and Rec 4, also on Tubi.
01:05:53
Speaker
So it sounds like Tubi's gonna be the place to go for the next ah couple of weeks. Maybe the witch is on Tubi too, I don't know, fuck it, go check, guys. Yeah, it's free.
01:06:05
Speaker
So thank God for Tubi. See, this is why Nick is the favorite because he comes with his A-game. He comes with the hookups on where to stream these films with us. He is morbid curiosity. So everyone just give a round of applause for Nick.
01:06:21
Speaker
Hopefully you are and I'm not the only one clapping here. We're morbid curiosity. I mean, it takes a lot to put this together and you're here every week talking about these movies with me. So yeah.
01:06:33
Speaker
it just I should get in the habit of saying where these movies are streaming more. I did that for like one These Guys Got Juice episode when we did like a top 10 list and I said where every movie was streaming.
01:06:48
Speaker
and I was not so on point that episode, but I like kind of got there. But I've never been that on point again. But I'll try if the movies seem obscure enough.
01:07:00
Speaker
Yeah, we definitely can make that a point just to help out our listeners too. So yeah, see, coming in with more feedback. So thank you, Nick. Thank you. I'm i'm excited to be here with you and excited to watch Vavitch.
01:07:14
Speaker
Hell yeah, it's going to be a great one. I've seen The Witch like 10 times maybe. I've seen it a lot. So this is going to be a fun one. i It's going to feel like an easy episode kind of. Yeah, I think so. Happy Thanksgiving, guys. You know, that that's it. The witch. You're getting it yeah a little early. Yep.
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Speaker
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