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The American Craftsman Podcast: New Shop, Who Dis? Season 2, Episode 47.
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Listener Engagement: Loyal vs. Avid
00:01:13
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right. Welcome back. Loyal listeners. I was going to say avid listeners, but that, uh, we don't know if they're avid listeners. That wouldn't quite make as much sense. They might be loyal, but not avid. Yeah. Avid kind of means that you're good at something, doesn't it? Or just they, I guess, well, I guess it means that you do it often. I think it means they'd be enthused. Yeah. What is the dictionary definition of avid? Let's look it up.
00:01:44
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You know, because we're, we're always learning something here at the American Craftsmen Podcast. Have a definition of meaning. Characterized by enthusiasm and vigorous pursuit. Very eager and enthusiastic. Desirous to the point of greed. Urgently eager, greedy.
00:02:03
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There's my college education at work. That's from Miriam Webster. I think they got canceled.
Rolling Roaster Disappointment
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So yeah, we're here with a regularly scheduled episode sort of outside of the 12 periods of American furniture since we finished that. And if you were listening last week, uh, the world dropped a bombshell on me when, uh, I learned that rolling roaster changed hands and it's no longer rolling roaster. Yeah. It's, it's, it's basically a one star place now.
00:02:45
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That's what the reviews looked like. We might have to revisit some more reviews this week. We could do a whole podcast episode, I think, just on business reviews on Google. I know, but the thing that really got me so down was that there were all these reviewers that were
00:03:07
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sort of in the same boat. I am, you know, I go in there for you, lifelong, you know, rolling roaster customer. I know my role in roaster and this sucks. Now they changed the fries. Yeah. So I don't know. You know, I've been trying to stave off depression since then. Well, when's the last time you had it? Oh, it's been God, maybe 10 years.
00:03:36
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You'll be able to block it out. Well, so what's new in Green Street?
Green Street Activities & Town Hall News
00:03:43
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What's new on Green Street? Green Street is just a hub of activity and new happenings and all sorts in and out of the shop.
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Could we break the news about our triumph at the town hall last night? Yeah. So we touched on it last week. I don't even remember what people always say. And then we've said this before, like, Oh man, that was so funny on the podcast when you're talking about blah, blah, blah. We have no recollection of anything that we talk about.
Presenting New Shop Plan to Town Council
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So I don't remember exactly what we said last week about, um,
00:04:21
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looking for a new shop and the shop that we found and so on and so forth but we had our meeting last night with the revitalization committee in this town and so it's like it's at the council it's I guess basically the revitalization committee is just the town council yes so we go to the town council meeting we had to
00:04:45
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We talk about having to prepare the whole I don't think so no because that was Thursday that we yeah I think I may have gotten the phone call before so Thursday we last Thursday we get a call knowing that we had this meeting yesterday, which is the 17th of August so the the
00:05:02
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Thursday prior get a phone call from the he's like the head of the economic Development would you say economic development committee or something basically he's a liaison between Businesses and the town council and you know zoning boards stuff like that the whole the whole borough municipal whatever I
00:05:27
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the municipality yeah exactly and he's good at what he does yeah really nice guy and i think he does it for a couple towns um he says hey uh any chance you'd give me that presentation by noon tomorrow being last friday uh that way the council members can you know look at it over the weekend i'm like why yeah i mean i guess i'm like i'll get definitely get you something i'm like might be like a quick and dirty but i'll get you something
00:05:54
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So I wrote something up and it didn't take a terrible amount of time. So I worked on a Thursday night, Friday morning, you know, we went out, got nice paper and we must've talked about this because we went to Staples before we did the podcast.
00:06:09
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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if we mentioned it. I don't know. Well, buckle up because you're going to hear about it again. So we went out, we got a nice paper. And so I, you know, made a cover sheet with the rendering and, you know, wrote up some stuff about the business, you know, what we're all about, stuff we do, the podcast.
00:06:30
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you know, address some possible concerns that they may have, like noise and deliveries and stuff like that. And, you know, some nice pictures on photo paper. We had a letter of recommendation written up by the mayor in, in Middletown, which is where the shop is now and where we both live. So that was good. Yes, we submit that and
00:06:57
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that was what Friday morning we submitted that then it must have been Monday in the mail we get
00:07:12
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a letter that, you know, is basically saying our zoning permit was denied. So we had filed previously, like, I don't know, maybe two, three weeks ago, a zoning permit because the building falls within this revitalization zone. Our use is like pretty much explicitly
00:07:34
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Well, well, we'll get there. But from what we read, it seemed like our use was not allowed in this zone. So we had to go submit this thing with a sketch and pay 25 bucks and blah, blah, blah. So we get the thing saying we were denied that it's a change of use and that we're going to have to go in front of the land use board. So we're like, oh, great. I really took the wind out of my sails. Yeah. So that was like, that was Monday.
00:08:00
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And they sent this packet of what we would have to do for the land use board, which is, you know, 21 copies certified mail, you know, return receipt with surveys and got to notify
Zoning Permit Denial & Appeal Process
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everybody within 200 feet. And it was a daunting list of things to do. Yeah. Which funny key I was talking to Keith about. He's like, yeah, I did two of those this week because he's got to do that all the time. That's right. Yeah, what he does.
00:08:26
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So I texted the guy said, hey, I'm like, does this change anything for Wednesday? He said, no, you know, you still got to do it. Well, we, you know, we'll do that and then go from there. So we, uh, we show up last night at seven, seven o'clock, showered and shaved, begrudgingly, extremely late. You know, seven o'clock's very late for us. I'm usually, uh, put my son to bed and getting in bed myself. It's bordering on bedtime.
00:08:58
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And the meeting starts, they had some police that were being sworn in, you know, two new patrolmen and two guys being promoted to sergeant. Yeah, nine year vets. Yeah. So they did that and then they took a little five minute recess and then we were at the top of the docket, aside from the swearing in of the police, of course.
00:09:25
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And yeah, I mean, they call this up there. And I mean, it was definitely a little bit awkward because you're just like standing in front of this. It's big desk. It's like a courtroom. Yeah. Yeah. I think it is actually the the Keensburg courtroom. Yeah. So there's this big, like, you know, judicial looking bench.
00:09:45
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desk thing that they're all sitting behind on a platform and you're like standing in front of them like you're really only like five feet away which makes it even weirder reminded me of time I avoided incarceration is always next time and I don't I don't forget what they asked or like yeah so tell us like a little bit about what you plan on using the thing for
00:10:10
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And, you know, we gave them a little bit of a spiel and they didn't really have any questions. No, we kind of answered all the questions that
00:10:22
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we thought they might have. We were very well prepared, I thought. Yeah. Um, and, uh, the funny funniest part was when the one guy who was like the, I forget the burrow manager or something holds up the rendering. He's like, is this what it's going to look like? I'm like, well, yeah, I mean, it's just kind of, he's like, I love it. Oh yeah. That's what it'll look like. It's going to look exactly like the, um,
00:10:50
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Cause the rendering I did, I tried to do, you know, I tried to change what's actually there as little as possible. You know, it's, it's a pretty simple looking building. And, uh, if you follow us on Instagram, you may have seen it. I posted, uh, the cover page last week. Um, but yeah, just like paint. And that was it like added some plants to the front. Nice logo. Yeah. They liked the green. Yeah.
00:11:18
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So they they took a vote and we unanimously passed.
00:11:26
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And so when we left, we, you know, we're thinking, okay, so this is done. Now we're going to have to go to the land use board. I should have said it before the meeting started. This gentleman, the economic, whatever liaison. Yeah. He said he was sitting right in front of us. We went and sat near him. He said, listen, I'm going to tomorrow. I'm going to file an appeal to see if I can get you guys through without having to go to land use board.
Proposal Approval for Shop Move
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So I get a text this morning and he was asking for our our SIC number, the NAICS code, whatever it is. You know, basically every business has a code through the federal government that says like what kind of business you are categorizes you. Yeah. So we're like a two three eight nine zero zero, which is like any other trades, something. Let me see exactly what it is.
00:12:25
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It's like what you put on your taxes and stuff. Um, because they were lumping us in as light industrial. Right. Uh, here we go. Other specialty trade contractors, these national industry specific occupational employment and wages. Oh, sorry. I'm reading something. That's a yeah.
00:12:48
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So it's part of specialty trades contractors. You have foundation structure and building exterior contractors. That's 238-100, building equipment contractors, building finishing contractors, and other specialty trade contractors. So that's us, 238-900.
00:13:07
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So I think, you know, he kind of got us got us through on a bit of a technicality. Yeah. Saying, you know, because it was the the zoning guy, the land use guy who was the one kind of putting up a fight saying, like, well, you know, it's, you know, it's a change of use because it's an industrial whatever. Well, according to this, technically we're not, I guess.
00:13:35
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So he said that resubmit the thing that, you know, they're going to push us through without having to go to the land use board. Yeah, which is good because that wouldn't be until the end of October. I think it didn't hurt that we were so well received. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure, you know, word came down to him that.
00:13:56
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We passed unanimously, there was no, I mean, I thought they were gonna at least have some kind of like question. It was more like there was like one or two rhetorical questions. They're like, so we're not gonna get sound complaints, are we? No. That was like the worst of it. I was kind of hoping there'd be a little cake and coffee though afterwards. Well, we left early.
00:14:26
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They probably go to the bar. Yeah. So yeah, that's what's going on with us.
Plans for New Shop Efficiency
00:14:33
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I guess. Yeah. If we, if you miss last week or we didn't talk about it, it's a 5,200 square foot shop. Um, you know, overhead door, three phase power. Yeah. Three phase power. It's got the ceilings gotta be what? 20 feet. Yeah. Yeah. That's, I mean, it's definitely like two stories high on the inside. Um,
00:14:55
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So yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens. Um, it's exciting. Yeah. Oh yeah. Um, no risk, get no biscuit. Yeah. Got to be in it to win it. Except the lottery.
00:15:14
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Fortune favors the world. We don't, we don't, we don't fare too well with the lottery. No. Yeah. We bought a couple of scratch offs today where we happened, happened into the supermarket. Yeah. Did you get reimbursed for that? No. Yeah. Yeah. Chalk it up as a loss.
00:15:33
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So, yeah, I mean, that's what's going on in terms of that. I guess we'll we're supposed to hear more tomorrow. The guy's going to touch base with zoning and see. So once we hear about that, we're we've been waiting just on confirmation that we can actually use this building.
00:15:50
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before we even get into lease negotiations. Yeah. So we got that whole hurdle to jump over. I mean, we have a pretty good idea what they're asking. Yeah, we have some general terms. We have a letter of intent that, you know, gives some basic parameters and stuff. But, you know, we've had to find an attorney who's going to be able to represent us and look at the lease and, you know, redline stuff. So,
00:16:18
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You know, one thing that's nice that came of all this is they were questioning like how much square footage we were going to designate as retail or open to the public. They didn't make a peep about it. Not one. Because we wanted to go with the existing footprint, which is really pretty minimal. Yeah, it's probably 200, 300 square feet.
00:16:43
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Um, yeah, I mean, I think their biggest concern is sort of how the building looks and, um, it needs to be going to complain. Yeah.
00:16:54
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I don't think they will. Oh, no. They haven't complained where we work now. Yeah. I mean, granted, there's the two houses that are right adjacent to it are definitely closer than the houses at the shop. But I think Boris owns the house next to it on the right, doesn't he? Like where he double parked in front of him? I don't think so. Oh, no. No, those people look like they own that house. OK.
00:17:21
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I just think he doesn't care. But he seems like a good guy. He sounds like he's willing to. He was even talking about moving the overhead door if need be to the other street
00:17:41
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So he seems willing to play ball. He seems to like us and from the digging I've done on him, he seems like a halfway decent guy, at least from what I can tell. Yeah.
00:17:54
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That's good. I think everything should go smoothly. Yeah, and then we can get our hooks into some of that old iron. Yeah. Even the new iron, that's the relatively new stuff. Yeah. And just big. Yeah, that'll be fun.
00:18:19
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Yeah. Cause we'll have lots of room to put stuff. Um, 5,200 square feet's a good, good size. You can, you can put out a lot of work in that. So are we going to make work benches all the same height and line them up with cool. Yeah. Castors. Don't everybody send in your resume all at once.
00:18:41
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Oh, yeah. No, it won't be hiring right away. But that's the plan eventually. Yes. Obviously, as we have to do more work, we're pretty much doing all the work we can at this point. Probably be able to bump up our output a little bit just by, you know, the efficiency that we'll gain of not being crammed into 800 square feet. Yeah.
00:19:04
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I mean, sometimes we can't even really work simultaneously that productively because, you know, you're kind of like, all right, you're building that case over there. What am I going to do over here? Just like be in somebody's way. Yeah. And, you know, with like the way the machines are set up and stuff.
00:19:27
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you know, we'll just be able to do it in a way that makes it easier and faster and all that good stuff that you have dedicated in feeds and out feeds and get those rolling conveyor, you know, like the rolling roller stands that are like an accordion, you know, like they have at the supermarket.
00:19:45
Speaker
Uh, at the supermarket. Oh, well, you see, I'm, I'm probably aging myself. It will come off the truck. All the cases will come off the truck and roll down those things. Yeah. Um, yeah. So, you know, instead of having to have two guys cutting up plywood, you know, we could get to a point probably where it's one guy because we'll have a, we could have a cart that can roll over with the plywood on top, you know, slide it onto the thing. I mean, it just, there's all kinds of ways that
00:20:16
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we could become faster that are not possible in the shop right now, just because of don't have just the machinery to do stuff. Yeah. When we cut up this last, uh, we, we got to talk about that too. The install, I guess, I mean, I must talk about, we installed the instant we did an install.
Installation Challenges & Cabinetry Opinions
00:20:33
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Um,
00:20:36
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When we cut that up, we had to move the shaper because you can't trim the end of an eight foot piece of plywood with the shaper where it is. So we had to drag the shaper out, drag it across the shop. Yeah, because she got about 92 inches or something like that, right? Yeah. Oh, God. That or like you only get like 12 inches of crosscut. You get eight feet, but only 14 inches of crosscut capacity.
00:21:02
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So, you know, we like to rip our boards in half, typically with the setup we have now, rip them in half and then break them down from there. So they're 24 by 96. So you want to square up that end, then make your cuts while you have to like
00:21:20
Speaker
Let's say you're cutting cabinet size, you have to cut it at like 31 or 32 and then flip it around, then cross cut it to the final width. So you can't like cut that first piece. You can't just trim the end and then cut it to length. You have to cut it oversize and it slows you down, especially if you have a bunch of different sizes.
00:21:42
Speaker
Yeah and then all the off feed and the off cuts and it just it all it's a big mess. Yeah we have lumber carts where we could stack up cut parts and then move them around all at once. Roll it out of the way. Instead of put it on this table and then oh shit we need this table we got to put them over lean them against the bench and then
00:22:04
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you lean up against a table and then the table rolls away cause it's on wheels and the shit falls on the ground. And, and you know what? We won't have to use the van as a closet anymore. Yeah. Van becomes storage during the day. Sometimes to get stuff out of the way, have a spot where the laser can sit. Um,
00:22:24
Speaker
I wonder if anybody knows any good riggers. Yeah. Chad. Chad knows a rigger or Chad's a rigger. Chad's a rigger. We'll get him up here. He's an expert mover. Is he going to move it in that, uh, Ford F-150 with the... Yeah. He's got a crane on there. Yeah. And, um, was it like the... Trek's decking? Yeah. The Trek's in the... I'm not sure if he actually did that, but yeah, he could back it up to the door and just pick the stuff up with a crane.
00:22:54
Speaker
Alright, will we pay him Georgia rates? Chad, if you're interested, reach out. I'm not sure Chad even listens to the podcast. No, I don't think so. We'll have Keith tell him. Keith, pass this message along. He's got a liftgate. Oh yeah, that's true. That is true. We definitely got him to help. We'll pay him in scrap wood. Yeah, pay everybody in scrap wood.
00:23:21
Speaker
How come nobody wants to scrap plywood? That's what we really need is somebody to come pick that shit up. Oh man. Anybody need like a bunch of like two inch wide pieces of plywood? Yeah. I mean, but sometimes you have like stuff that's 15, 16 inches, 20 inches.
00:23:39
Speaker
And we just lean it against the door for a couple of months until we get fed up and then we throw it away anyway. Yeah, we got that one garbage can that we keep for, you know, making jigs and stuff. Yeah.
00:23:57
Speaker
So we installed the half of the Batcave. Yeah. The, uh, the death star, um, the cherry and well, cherry and cherry, the gray and clear cherry wall unit got that in. Well, went relatively, uh, easily. Only there's only, well, let's see. I scribed one that's the center, the left.
00:24:26
Speaker
and the two uppers. So, you know, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven scribes screwed to the wall. That's it. I mean, um, you know, we kept it in off the side walls. Everybody likes his built in shit. I don't get it. It looks so much better when you keep it off the, off the walls inside, you know, um, get a little negative space in there. Yeah.
00:24:52
Speaker
Also, once you start going in between three walls, it's so complicated with those scribes. The floor is always out. Yeah, and I don't know, everybody's so self-righteous with the scribe, like it's some badge of honor. We can all do it. It just takes time, you know? You just have to be careful.
00:25:11
Speaker
Yeah, you know, we can all get to the line, right? But they don't look good after after a certain amount of time. You know, if it's white, you're going to see a line and then you caulk it and then, OK, well, then the caulk attracts dust or somebody cleans it and it gets all grungy, you know, because they wiped it and the chemicals or whatever. It just I don't know. It looks better when it's off the wall.
00:25:37
Speaker
Yeah. My big gripe with the scribe is that sometimes the walls have such big humps in them that it really invades the piece of furniture that you spent time making. Yeah. So you have this big extended style and it's an inch and a half in the center and then the top it's two and three quarter and the bottom it's three inches because the walls are jacked up.
00:26:05
Speaker
Yeah, that's the part that I really dislike about it. Yeah. And, you know, we kept it down off of the, there's a soffit, so kind of kept it the same distance off of the soffit as to the wall. So it's just got good negative space. I mean, you don't need to use every square inch of the wall. Yeah.
00:26:32
Speaker
I mean, it's good if you're painting the wall and the piece the same color, you know, and everything can blend. But I'm not really into that either though. Personally, I don't like that style, but it's a much more seamless look. But when you build something out of hardwood and then stick it up against a white or light wall,
00:26:55
Speaker
The best is when they do like a wall to wall and it's all in one plane. Yeah. All like painted white. Yeah. Like, Oh my God. Ooh, this little low on the imagination. Um, let's see. We got some, uh, questions on Instagram. That's my story from this morning. Here we go.
Instagram Q&A: Business & Client Stories
00:27:30
Speaker
JPCcrest25 wants to know, wouldn't mind hearing about how the business is progressing. Well, we kind of got into that. Justin De Palma talking about what you had to submit to the city for the new shop. We talked about that.
00:27:45
Speaker
Blugerson. Um, is that Dave? Yeah. Dave Miller. He wants beer of the week. Sorry, we don't have any beers to beer of the week. Yeah. I do have some beer up there. Um, Trinity tradesmen, project pricing, funny client stories, business stuff. And what would, sorry, what you would build for yourself. Do we have any funny client stories?
00:28:11
Speaker
Um, hmm. No, we already talked about that stupid podcast. That was the funniest. Yeah, that was funny. Keith wants to score on a tangent. I think we've probably already done that several times. Uh, Matt first do wants us to talk about the business and the moving to the bigger shop. We got that. Um, when are we going to have a guest again? That's what I want to know. Yeah.
00:28:39
Speaker
That's a good question. John, how an impending recession might hurt small businesses? Well, God, we don't want to talk about that. Freddie wants to know for hiring. Freddie, if we were, we would hire you in a heartbeat and we'd probably just go on vacation because you could just handle it by yourself. That's the best kind of employee. Yeah.
00:29:04
Speaker
I mean, you don't want one that's going to make more work for you. Freddie wants to know how to put a side panel on a cabinet. Screws. Yep. Definitely not lamellos. Pricing formula discussion. I always seem to undercut myself.
00:29:21
Speaker
Start high. Yeah. Time plus material. Real time. Yeah. Not, you know, I mean, every if you really get into and go, well, I got to receive this material. I got to order this material. I got to spend downtime. I got to clean up the shop. I got to do all these things after the job is done to get my shop ready to build the next job. There's that's all lost time. Yeah.
00:29:51
Speaker
Yeah, think about how long it's going to take and then add time to that and then find out how much the material is going to cost and then add money on top of that. Yeah. You have to mark up your time and your material. You know, you can't always get as much as you want to on every job, but you can sure as hell try. Yeah. Because none of us are getting paid what we deserve. That's for sure. I agree with that.
00:30:16
Speaker
You know, that's not ripping people off. It's just getting what you deserve. Right. And if you're doing a good job, then you deserve it.
00:30:23
Speaker
You know, you have to value your time, first off. You know, we all work extra hours. You know, we're never getting paid for every moment we're on the job. That's part of being a small business person. That's what you sign up for. But when you price out the job, you have to kind of take some of that into consideration. Yeah. And you got to eat some of that time, but you know. Yeah.
00:30:54
Speaker
That's kind of all we got in the, by the way, the questions and where he wants to know how the salt boxes are coming along. We haven't started them yet. Probably in the next two weeks. Yeah. Got to get this, uh, drippy bar.
Current Woodworking Projects
00:31:09
Speaker
Um, we have to make a couch or like a sofa and, uh, making a couple of things for our buddy Jafet. Yeah. These cherry, big ass cherry blocks. Yeah. They're like, I guess they're menu boards or something. They're what six by 16 by 42. Mm-hmm.
00:31:30
Speaker
solid cherry, you know, with some grooves for signs to go into making two of those and a couple smaller ones, like really small. Yeah. Those are going to be heavy. Yeah. I shot it. I think it's six inches thick. Yeah. So we've got a bunch of eight quarter cherry. We use, you know, eight quarter, and then we'll take five quarter, bring it down to four quarter, I guess, for the spots where the signs are going to go. Do like a little glue up kind of thing.
00:32:02
Speaker
Yeah. It's going to, I might, I might be got out that day that those things that moved. No, it won't be that heavy. Shit. All the cabinets are something we just moved. The thing about the, at least they're only 42 inches long. Yeah. Think about the install yesterday or the stairs. Yeah. Every, the last two jobs have been in basements. So, um,
00:32:28
Speaker
getting this 12 foot countertop down there is going to be interesting. Yeah. It's going to be, we're going to be banging up the homeowners walls and ceiling a little bit. I think I don't say that.
00:32:45
Speaker
Yeah, it's a it's a L-shaped stairway, right? Yes, and then it's a you got to do a 180 you go down It's like a switchback kind of situation. It's not actually a switchback but the where we got to go is a
00:33:05
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You got to turn, you go down, turn 90 and then you got to turn 90 once you hit the bottom of the stairs. Um, yeah. Cause it's there's close quarters at the bottom of the stairs and the top of the stairs. Really? Yeah. I guess you could go all the way straight into the bathroom. Yeah. That's a big bathroom. It is basement. They need a piece of furniture in there. Yeah. Bench on that back, that back wall. Nice cherry bench. Yeah.
00:33:35
Speaker
It'll match all the cherry? Yeah. Why not? That's a good question. Yeah. So they had some like board batten style wall treatments put up and they had some unusual dimensions we had to, uh,
00:34:09
Speaker
They chose said dimensions 20, 26 and five-eighths deep and 30 inches. So to cover it, we need to be deeper than 26 and five-eighths and taller than 36 inches. I don't know. I don't understand why, but we're going to roll with the punches on that one and just build our, you know, bringing the countertop up a little bit higher.
00:34:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why work around.
00:34:36
Speaker
It's fine because it's got the drippy edge, which is kind of going to, you know, impede any leg. Right. You're going to need plenty of room for the doors. Oh yeah. There's no drip edge over by the, no, but like, if you want to sit at the bar, you're going to have these drips like close to your legs. So, I mean, we're only going to go up, I guess, like, I don't know, half inch or something, but finishing at 36 and a half instead of 36 bias, you know, that's another half inch leg room.
00:35:04
Speaker
Yeah, I like that. We'll see, we're waiting on confirmation on the drip. I carved one, but right before we left the shop, just like a quick, quick tester. Camera pretty good. Yeah, no burning at all. Yeah, it's a damn jigsaw. I have a reminder, order scrolling blades for the jigsaw.
00:35:30
Speaker
Because those blades were not making tight turns, that's for sure.
00:35:38
Speaker
Yeah. I love when you're doing stuff like that in cherry and you see the burning of car and you already are telegraphing, you know, your workload in your mind about how you're going to have to send all those curves off by hand. Yeah. Yeah. Keith is going to bring us some, uh, burrs and stuff to borrow. Um, and I think he's going to lend us his Fordham. He said, and the CT 70. Yeah.
00:36:07
Speaker
Fordham is like a basically a, um...
00:36:13
Speaker
like a real Dremel, you know, like not a Dremel, but same idea, but like has balls, you know, used for power carving and stuff. It's got like a foot pedal. That's cool. We like the foot pedal. Yeah. So that should make things
Tool Talk & Friendly Assistance
00:36:30
Speaker
a little bit easier. I was just using it like a right angle die grinder with, you know, burrs that you'd use on like metal, just like solid carbide. Yeah.
00:36:41
Speaker
I don't know if they're solid carbide, I guess they are. Solid carbide burrs. Yeah, I think we got those for the wine, the steel and glass wine cabinet, didn't we? Is that how we bought that stuff? Yeah, because when the powder coating got done, the little cavity on the bottom was too small. So we had to hog those out a little bit. That was sketchy. Those were like, want to go everywhere.
00:37:08
Speaker
So yeah, we got that going on. How the hell did we get here? That, the sofa. Yeah, then we're getting into the salt boxes. You know, we've been slowly trying to get ourselves prepared to get into that.
00:37:23
Speaker
We got some ducting stuff to run, you know, more efficient exhaust. We fixed the compressor situation, you know, rewired some stuff. We talked about that last week. Yeah. Compressors run in that extra tank now pretty well.
00:37:41
Speaker
Yeah, yes, we hooked up the 24 gallon up to the 34 gallon is now just a tank, a pig tank. So that the 24 fills the 34. So we got a 58 gallon capacity and it's a pretty big pump on the 24. So it I'm not really worried about it over sort of overworking it.
00:38:07
Speaker
I mean, even if it does and it ends up dying prematurely, I mean, it's not going to be that premature. Yeah, I mean, that's it is what it is. You want to overwork it, then it's going to die sooner. But it would have been less than a machine that is a 60 gallon. Oh, yeah. And then we'd have that big old thing in the shop, too. Yeah.
00:38:36
Speaker
Yeah, shit, we can get one of those giant compressors to move into the new shop. What are the ones that are in like a box of rotary screw compressors, is that what they call it? That I don't know. Yeah, it's like it doesn't look like, you know, like your normal compressor. They're just like a rectangle. Is it quieter? I think so. That's what I would like. Let's see. Yeah, so.
00:39:04
Speaker
A lot going on. Yeah.
Workshop Compressor Needs
00:39:07
Speaker
Rotary screw air compressor. Wow. 107 CFM. God damn. Can I say anything about the DBs? 120 gallon tank. That's an Ingersoll rant.
00:39:29
Speaker
74 DBs. That's pretty quiet. Yeah, it's cheap. It's only 24,000. Oh, yeah. Put it on the card. Put it on our house account. Three phase. Let's see what he got. Get a five horsepower, 14.9 CFM, 125 PSI, 80 gallon.
00:39:59
Speaker
Air dryer not included. 7,600. Get one on IRS auctions. Yeah. We saw it wasn't a rotary screw compressor. It was just a regular compressor. I don't know what the hell you call them. What is it?
00:40:19
Speaker
Single stage. Yeah, the one with the motor on the top. Yeah. Oh, here. Like the cylinder heads. Rotary screw electric air compressors provide a continuous supply of air. They have two internal screws that rotate in opposite directions, trapping and compressing air. Constant movement differs from piston air compressors that start and stop to meet their airflow needs. Rotary screw air compressors deliver air to tools and equipment in facilities and plants that require high volumes of uninterrupted compressed air. So, yeah, I guess they
00:40:49
Speaker
It's just air on demand. No, like these ones don't have tanks. Tankless rotary screw air compressors do not come mounted on an air tank. Units provide a continuous supply of air to tools and equipment. They often connect to a distributed air system that may include air tanks at the point of use. I don't know why they would have that. I guess maybe it has to do with the CFM. Like if you need, let's see.
00:41:16
Speaker
Wow. 499 CFM. That's insane. I mean, what is that like for building aircraft and stuff? I don't know. How big is this thing? I mean, look at it. So I look awfully slick. Is that touchscreen? It's only 66,000.
00:41:41
Speaker
It's eight feet wide, 80 inches tall and 49 inches deep. Holy crap. That's crazy. 75 kilowatt, 125 PSI air tank size, half gallon, three phase 230 volt. And that doesn't even come with an air dryer. That's crazy.
00:42:08
Speaker
Yeah, look, these are like full-size doors. You're like walking side of it probably. I'd like to see one of those shows about explaining how that works, you know, what the mechanical and, you know, what would you say the physics behind the properties of it? Just, I'd like to see it demonstrated. Yeah, how it works.
00:42:34
Speaker
Again, how did we get here? How did we get to talking about these? Oh, we were talking about fixing, getting set up for the boxes. Yeah, we've got to refine the file a little bit more. I did find a setting in Lightburn that I think is going to help fix some problems with like deleting, what did it say? Like duplicate lines. So some of the files that I have, it was, if you draw in,
00:43:01
Speaker
If you draw it with lines overlapping, it actually cuts it twice, which makes the the curve wider. So I don't make it easier for me to draw it the way that I that I need to. And it takes longer, right? Because it's got it's making an extra cut. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, you can't use it that way with the double cut because it makes it all too loose. Yeah.
00:43:28
Speaker
We're still on the quest for the perfect sneaker works you Yeah, I'm pretty happy with these I bought a new pair of vans These are called the Lizzie some female skateboarder Pretty good. They're like the sole is pretty comfortable. They get a little bit tight like I
00:43:49
Speaker
right around like the, uh, the junction between the top of the foot and the ankle, whatever the hell you call that area. But I mean, they're still breaking in. I've only had them for, uh, maybe two weeks. Yeah. I can never satisfied with the soft work shoe, but it's, it's just too hot in the summertime. Yeah. The boots. And I'm not wearing boots unless there's snow on the ground pretty much.
00:44:19
Speaker
Because in the shop, it's all the same. Yeah. I just like the feel of the boot. Yeah, I mean, this is pretty stiff leather. It's got the double toe. I did like those skate high MTEs I had, but they don't make them anymore. That seems to be the theme, you know, when you like something and then
00:44:47
Speaker
Disappears. Well, yeah, I learned my lesson I when I got these and I decided I liked them I ordered another pair and stashed them away Any word from our elusive designer friend? No, she likes to drip but uh Let's see what the clients think of the uh
00:45:15
Speaker
the drip that I drew up. Do they want the artsy drip or the non artsy drip? Yeah, it's really, it's between, um, minimal drip or maximum drip. What are they looking for? What level of drip?
Designing Client Preferences
00:45:34
Speaker
Cause what I drew, it's a lot of drip, which translates to more work, but, um, that's usually how it goes around here. I think it would be worth it.
00:45:46
Speaker
But that's just me. Yeah, take us more time. We could phone it in and go the easy way. Just two drips. Yeah. I mean, what I drew was pretty simple. Had sort of one main drip and then some other smaller drips.
00:46:13
Speaker
I wonder what's going to become our go-to eating spot if we wind up moving. We don't need out now. I know, but you know, the excitement of the new neighborhood and everything, we're going to try some places. Yeah. Yeah. That's where we're going to deal with somebody. I think Mike's going to be a little bit too far. Yep. A little bit too far. We're going to need delivery. Yeah.
00:46:41
Speaker
And, uh, there's that new brewery there. I wonder how they're going to be. Yeah. Grinn. Grinn Brewery. See if they're, uh, they got a website. I think, I think, was it called Raritan before that? Yeah. It was Raritan. Or Raritan Bay or just Raritan. Um, I don't know. Grinn Brewing coming soon, summer 2022. Drinking beer makes you grin.
00:47:11
Speaker
Brewing since 2012. Where are they relocating from? Does it say? Oh, let's see. Uh, their website is just a unclickable. It's just a page. Yeah. So you click on it. It says our story and you get nothing. Just says coming soon. Yeah. Our story brewing since 2012. I wonder if they have an Instagram.
00:47:40
Speaker
Um, so right across caddy corner from the city hall actually is a little, uh, little brewery. Yeah. Yeah. The, um, the previous one did not last that long. Um, that's not quite walking distance from the shop. No, they do have an Instagram. I'll give them a follow. See if we can, uh, keep up to date with what they're doing. Another brew day in the books. Pumpkin ale. That was from last year.
00:48:12
Speaker
I'm not a fan of the pumpkin everything. No, I, I, I don't mind a pumpkin beer, but not like all the time. Yeah. I mean, I might have a slice of pumpkin pie. If you got some real whipped cream or something like that. Oh yeah. I don't need to have the whipped cream. That's just a, uh, that's just a bonus. Yeah. Pumpkin pie is not big on it. Like I'm not big on apple pie either.
00:48:45
Speaker
I like both. I like peach pie. That's good. Yeah. Uh, if I'm having peach, it's going to be cobbler. Yeah. Well, that's good too. Let's see. July 30th, signs are up. We're getting closer every day. Stay tuned for our grand opening celebration. Yeah. It was called Raritan Bay brewery. And the guys at Ross, I don't know when the hell they're going to open. I know.
00:49:15
Speaker
Hopefully soon. I'd like to go visit them. Um, if we get the new shop, be cool to do
New Brewery Discussion
00:49:22
Speaker
a little meetup. Yeah. At the space. Not necessarily the parking, but that'd be awesome. Yeah. A little, uh, housewarming. Yeah. People could bring us gifts. Yeah. Like housewarming gifts. Like woodpecker squares. Yeah.
00:49:44
Speaker
I want that little one. Pauline. No, that little, that is that what you call that little triangle? Like the Veritas one. Yeah. I didn't know they had one like a toy. I didn't know they had one like that. Maybe it's either them or it's, it's bridge city then. Oh yeah. It's one of them. What the hell is a dog barking out there? Yeah.
00:50:13
Speaker
So, I mean, people were interested to find out what was going on. Now we've told them. Yeah. I think that's probably about all we got for you guys this week. Yeah.
Closing Remarks & Listener Support
00:50:25
Speaker
We got to figure out between now and next Thursday. What we're going to talk about. Yeah. So if you have any suggestions, let me know. Yeah. I think we should do an entire episode of reading Google reviews.
00:50:43
Speaker
Submit your cities and businesses, not keep them separate. Mm hmm. So that we can mix them up. Yeah. I'm going to have to, you know, stay detached emotionally from from this. No, I'm not going to look for anything that I know. Hometown favorites. Yeah, because I can't deal with another disappointment like Roland Roster. That's funny.
00:51:13
Speaker
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