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89. Ruptura de Rutinas- Con Catalina Osorio Arteaga Kocturk (Español)
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Catalina Osorio Arteaga Kocturk nos cuenta en estra entrevista su proceso de duelo despues de la muerte de su padre. Aqui hay un poco mas sobre Cata, en sus propias palabras:
"Naci en Medellin, Colombia. La mayor de 3 hermanos y la unica mujer. Siempre me senti muy amada y feliz. Creci alrededor de doctores por ser mi papa uno de ellos y me apasione locamente por la medicina. Al terminar mi bachillerato comence a estudiarla y dos años despues me fui para NY con la excusa de mejorar mi Ingles. Alla me enamore de la ciudad, de las nuevas oportunidades que me brindaba y de un hombre turco! Decidi dejar mi pais y la vida que habia empezado a contruir y comenzar de nuevo en NY. Con muchisimo esfuerzo estudie sicologia y al graduarme me mude para Estambul donde me case, forme una familia y donde llevo casi 19 años! Aca, soy esposa, mama de dos adolescentes y profesora de prescolar.
El 15 de Enero del 2020 recibi la peor noticia de mi vida: Mi papa habia muerto de un infarto.
La verdad es que esta es la primera vez que escribo sobre todas las muertes que han sido parte importante de mi vida. Me doy cuenta que han sido muchas… Mi abuela materna, mi hermanito Sebastian, mi tio Hugo, mi primo Carlos Andres, mi amiga Gladys, mi primer embarazo, , mi amiga turca, mi tio Jaime, mi amiga Day… Todas tocaron algo profundo en mi, pero la muerte de mi papa fue completamente devastadora. Todavia me cuesta describirlo y la verdad todavia no he vuelto a mi estado “normal”. El dolor ha sido tan profundo que desestabilizo TODAS mis estructuras, todos los aspectos de mi ser. Aproximadamente a las 3 semanas de su muerte comence a sentir una rabia profunda contra mi cultura. No podia aceptar, ni entender, ni perdonar que no nos enseña absolutamente nada relacionado con la muerte y el duelo. Dicen que “la ignorancia es atrevida”, pero la ignorancia sobre la muerte es completamente cruel. Yo me senti como si me hubieran tirado al mar en medio de una fuerte tormenta, sin preguntarme si sabia nadar y sin brindarme ningun tipo de flotador… CRUEL.
La pandemia encerro al mundo entero y yo, en medio de 4 paredes que seguian pareciendome el mas oscuro y tempestuoso de los oceanos, me obsesione con el tema. Comence a leer libros, ver videos, peliculas, documentales, a escuchar podcasts, a seguir especialistas en redes sociales y a ser parte de webinars que ofrecian la informacion y el apoyo emocional que tanto necesitaba. Con cada dia que pasaba me daba cuenta que mi nuevo proposito de vida estaba completamente ligado a compartir ese conocimiento, a desmitificar la muerte y a generar consciencia de su existencia para impulsar un cambio cultural al respecto. Comence con mis circulos mas cercanos. Empece a tener conversaciones con mis hijos, mi esposo y forme un grupo en WhatsApp con 14 miembros de mi familia donde comenzamos a tratar el tema de la muerte por primera vez. El grupo sigue activo y ha sido una experiencia maravillosa. Tambien tuve una charla con mis amigas del colegio la cual fue muy especial. Decidi prepararme como especialista en duelo. Ya tengo varios certificados. Sigo aprendiendo, sigo compartiendo y sigo motivada a aportar un granito de arena. "
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Establishing Routines and Personal Transformation
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One of the things that made me want to do, and I'm going to do this for you, because I want to have more routines. One of the things that I do with my daughter is to have a life with her, with her routine. I know that I have to have more routines. I know that I have to have more transformations.
Influence of Colombia on Personal Growth
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And for me, one of the most important things for me is that Colombia has been able to help me with electric skills, because my papayra, the sea, this spirit. Hola. In many of the podcasts, Grief, Gratitude, and the Gray in Between, Historia's De Duello y Gratitude,
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It's the podcast that's ready to explore the centimetres of the world that live in different moments of the world when we pass through the pandemic and the drastic transition, which literally means that we have to make the most profound of our lives in the future and in the future. It's my intention that the session will be with many solos of the world, the cultural, historical, inspirational stories, the authors, and the trajectories of similarities.
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I hope you enjoyed this video. Thank you very much and see you next time.
Introduction to Catalina Osorio Arteaga-Cock Turk
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This episode is with Catalina Osorio Arteaga-Cock Turk. She is Colombian, resident of Turkey and is a professor, but she is also a specialist in the development of the Duelo process.
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and I'll talk about the events of the process, the things that are happening in Padre, and how you can do that at the moment, the things that are happening in the previous process.
Sharing Experiences and Community Connection
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But I hope that this conversation will be with you. Thank you.
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Ah, yo, la Kendra, mill, mill, mill, gracias, feliz, feliz, estar aqua, feliz de puer compartir contigo, conto comunidad, con las personas que, compulquier personas que pues, cuacharlo, feliz, feliz, estar aqua, supera grací.
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Yes.
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No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
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It's
Adapting to Languages and Cultures
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And the point is that when you are speaking Spanish, how do you say that in Spanish? How do you say that in Spanish? And how do you say it in Spanish? How do you say it in Spanish? How do you say it in Spanish? How do you say it in Spanish? How do you say it in Spanish? How do you say it in Spanish? How do you say it in Spanish? How do you say it in Spanish? How do you say it in Spanish?
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just us.
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And, of course, we have a lot of turkeys in Turco, in Turco, because they are not in Turco. And they speak in Spanish, they speak in Spanish, but how do you say it in Spanish? In terms of this. So, you have to be able to speak in Turco, you have to be able to speak in English, you have to be able to speak in Spanish, you have to be able to speak in Spanish, you have to be able to speak in Spanish.
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And with me, the majority of the time is in English. The cause is that, as I said, we are in Turco, in all of the places, and the environment is very natural for us. We are in Turco too, when we are in Turco, we are in Turco and we are going to have to go there. In English.
00:04:42
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¡Sí! ¡Sí! ¡Sí! ¡Sí! ¡Sí!
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Oza aqua lo que meños requiré des fuerso en la communicos en entre nosotros dos.
Family Dynamics and Coping with Loss
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Porque se ese regalarmentorque, cuando de actually cuájino a pasato el días de casa a aqua el como a facilito. La quiero trá. No y a de más que pues de ese conocieron a canes tados unidos entonces el idióman el que se conocieron fue en ingles. Si.
00:05:17
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Sí, sí, sí, sí. Bueno. Cuentanos, cuentanos de eso, de cuentanos de tus alía, Colombia, vamos hoy hablar, de tu duelo más reciente que es el fajecimiento de tu papi, pero también otros, otros duelos en el proceso, pero empecemos un poco sobre, sobre ti de como te cono siste con tu esposo, y como, y de tu sihos, y esas, esas, esas cositas, así, y luego y a pasamos an. Bueno. Yo.
00:05:46
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Todá la vida estú ródeada de medicos porque me puedo para medico y me encantado, a mi la medica en me encantaba, todo el bachigerato di here buías de herme y cinha, salí de el bachigerato y oviamente me presente la me y cinha y estú de herme y cinha a usaños. Me y va muy bien, me fascinaba, estaba pocionada,
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Today, I'm going to talk to you a little bit about the past. I'm going to talk to you a little bit about our culture, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are we going to do in today's world, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what are the different cultures, what
Language's Impact on Career Decisions
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¿Cá tí, ¿cá no te vas? ¿Cá, ¿cá no te vas? Termina a la carrere es pues te vas? Te vas y vas a perdertu norte, el aula el norte. ¿Ay, papi no? Pero mira me que todo el libro de maecina, todos los estudios, todos los cozas de maecina, pues on en inglés, y la verdá es que no? Zá el intereslío majo erera cómo e qué rico. ¿Qué, qué, qué, qué más hay? ¿Qué, ¿qué, ¿qué, ¿qué, ¿qué, ¿qué, ¿qué, ¿qué, ¿qué, ¿qué, ¿qué, ¿qué, ¿qu
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are the
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And realmente las cosas evadieron supranos enton fazil cetermenígen do mejo para está hos uníos, con la judade de mítí a la hermana, mi vamá, tan hermosa, que pues que es mi madríne esto openente, y absolutamente todo, y cática uníte. Y befue, en canto a fazina a ya y para mi realmente fue una supera aventura y cuando sábá dia con nos amispos. Entonces, y símos clicte es del principio para al principio pues como amigos,
00:07:35
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But I think it's very important that you know that, for example, Colombia has to work with the people who live here in Argentina. And the people who live here, I think, are very, very good. I think it's very important to look at it. I think it's very important that you know that you live here, that you live here.
00:08:00
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As I said, I have a capital in the world that I live in, but I don't have money. I have to do it for social, for social structures, for the planet David. I have to do it with no, no, no. I have a capital, but I don't have it. And I have to do it. And I have to do it for medicine.
00:08:24
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La cuál quéndrá tédico que hacido, jó pienso que de las decíciones, más difíciles que yo ajá toma un mi vida. Fuella más faziz. Que rónía. Porque tengo a muchísimas claridad. Es más, cuánto tengo que tomar decíciones, estú un poquito con fum días y empre le igua dios, a la vida, le spirito, por favor de me la claridad, que yo tenga en esa momento. Porque yo no sabia lo que se me añir en síma, pero yo cábía que síona, enir muchas cosas.
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And no, no, no, no important. It's not independent. I mean, what do you think? Do you assume the consequences? Because it's one of those things where you don't know what's going to happen. You don't know what's going to happen in Colombia. You don't know what's going to happen.
00:09:09
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And as if I don't organize the cause, I don't know if I can organize it, or if I want to make it, or if I want to make it, or if I want to make it, or if I want to make it, or if I want to make it, or if I want to make it, or if I want to make it, or if I want to make it,
00:09:27
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Oros a mentecada, buenos a fuerla, para ese como sifuera, la epocha los picapiras, pero estamajando y aseventí cinco, años o se años. Un el tienda de cuando los abuelitos, un los papadesián cuando giúer a niño, me tocaba caminar el colegio, o cuando giúer. Hola, te levegiones, plas muy nejros y, pero yo me pengo pensar y yo, cuando yo cuando y años y años o no bien se lulares.
00:09:54
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No, on the internet, it's like a machine. It's for me, my dad, and my dad. I don't know how to say it, but I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it, but it's a family,
Cultural Perceptions vs. Reality
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a completely fundamentalist family, and I don't know how to say it, but I don't know how to say it, but I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it, but I don't know.
00:10:28
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Claro y lo que dices tambienes, eso es que lo que uno conocierado, a bazado en lo que testaba de siento, el un noticiero, los la información que de gaba, no en releado un conocimiento de verdad, sobre el tras culturas que tu hiramos, por bibencios, uno como hacer tontos, esa y como que... Claro, claro, claro, claro, claro. Lo que lo relación a anera, a lo que conocieran, no necesadiamentero quera.
00:10:37
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How do you see the investigation? I think it's a very, very basic idea.
00:11:13
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And terminas y colo jia, bueno la relación de nosotros, fue un tiempo juntos, un tiempos de para ellos, finalmente terminamos dos anos, y espe de que terminamos dos anos, por vimos empezar hablar y era la epo, con la que con sí, aquí de jamegra de vamos.
00:11:15
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Cierto. Cierto. Cierto.
Embracing Turkish Culture
00:11:30
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Entonces, empezar amos hablar, hablar, hablar, cuando me nos pensé, como buen turco, terminen turquia. Y a un mesme casé. Oza, fue, fue, una cosar de loco, si.
00:11:43
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Entonces por eso de yo hacadías y nuerre años. Os ajo de que huen tres demar, so, no ere que tala vienturquí, a ver como obiamente, y a via venido, y a via conocido, fasina con la cultura, fasina con la ciudad, fasina con, pus como con con la mariade de esta cultura, sindra, almente.
00:12:07
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And I'm going to win the 3rd of March, and I'm going to win the game. We're going to be super, super, super happy. We're going to see how we're going to do this. Lucas de Catorsianos, we're going to play with Catorsianos. Lucas is in Brazil, he has a lot of experience, and he's going to be playing with me.
00:12:25
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de la olerecentes, muy lindos, me esposestan esta ozunías porque pues el entrena por lo aquático, el era parte el equipo national, y todavía se que júgando, y se puede recado, y así preque nos conos hemos. Y tú un mis hijos también puede aquático. Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy, no? Y hoy,
00:13:00
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I'm super convenient. I don't know if you've ever been to the United States, but I'm super convenient.
00:13:07
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And the other thing is that you don't have to do anything like this. You don't have to do anything like this because you don't have to do anything like this. You don't have to do anything like this because you don't have to do anything like this. You don't have to do anything like this because you don't have to do anything like this because you don't have to do anything like this.
00:13:30
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Bueno, entonces, hablaste, vas tantes, mudanzas, que tu iste, también habla tu heron, no puedo tiempo que viero, no Brazil. En esas, mudanzas, hablaste, me gusto como ajiste, lo el capituro, sera, y en el que já, como que hu el verado, ir lo que sabiendo, que jábias, pasau, por es vera, como algo, que no...
Family Pride and Challenges
00:14:15
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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I told her, I told her, that I was going to love her, that I was going to love her, that I was going to love her, that I was going to love her, that I was going to love her, that I was going to love her, that I was going to love her, that I was going to love her, that I was going to love her, that I was going to love her,
00:14:47
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para mi papa eso fue el remo el conmas grande que hacitení es su vida por esitos a el deo muy turo la verda. Pero sin, esa llama de de que, no, esto, no, definitely, la fue, pensa que lío hacer, a de mas que me encanta, a me la me sin, a me fascina, todo lo que tenga quer con el functionamento el cuerpo,
00:15:09
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con, con, con la milimentación, con las efirmidades, con, oza a yo pienzo que la medicina, lo que genero añí, el estudio, que tu ella me esina. E, me hacer bia más de honesta momento, para la cata que soy ahora, para las cosas que habuen esta momento, y a que estametía en la parte el duello, toda la questia en física, sí cológica y emocional que se me esclentos. Es pienzo que no fue, nunca, nunca, luevisto,
00:15:37
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Como una perdida te tiempo. Nonca, ni por un segundo, me a reppentido. Uiero termina o se cológia. Perdón, me di cena.
00:15:47
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I don't know if you have any questions here. No, I don't know if you have any questions or not, but I would like to know if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions,
00:16:14
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Mm-hmm. Sí es hace un una fundación a otras cosas, un foundation, se ese fundación. Una hace, una hace. Una hace, gracias. Una hace a todas estas otras aprendisajes y lo que aprendiste también en el centido de como estudiar, porque para estudiar me decinas, se necesita disciplina y cosas, esitos, es aprendiste technica, si characteristica, es que tada judar un en eso, que tana judar no tres cosas en tu bia.
00:16:43
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Pero mentionaste, cosas de como los tus familiares, amigas de tu mamá, todo eso también ejos están pasando por tus processo de luello de que la idéa, y guarque la tu papí, la idéa de lo que yo se bien echo de lo que yo hacer tu futuro y como estu futuro y do que tu fuera hacer también un pactor al de ejos.
Planning for the Future and Family Support
00:17:02
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As long as we are able to do this, we are able to do it. We are able to do it. We are able to do it. We are able to do it. We are able to do it. We are able to do it. We are able to do it. We are able to do it.
00:17:27
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I think we are going to have a good time. We are going to have a good time. We are going to have a good time. We are going to have a good time.
00:17:55
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It's very special. I love it very much. I love it very much. I love it all the time. I love it all the time. I love it all the time. I love it all the time. I love it all the time. I love it all the time. I love it all the time. I love it all the time. I love it all the time. I love it all the time.
00:18:24
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I'm
00:18:42
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You know, you have to be a person because you have to be married. You have to be married. You have to be married, no? No. You have to be a person who doesn't have a plan.
00:18:57
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Y esta dynamica tambien bien esa tús para desestán se para los corregados. Esos algo importante notar porque que esa tambien esa aspecto tudio de como cuidabas a tupa, como que se tres uvos tambesas tamas esa aspecto de esa dynamica tres tres dos, pasado en que tus papas está bán.
00:19:39
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No, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.
00:19:45
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:20:09
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that I have had, and that I have had, and that I have had, because I think that with the people, it is very much a multiplicity, like an explosion.
Managing Expectations and Responsibilities
00:20:20
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Yes, like I said, the people who are here today, in this moment, I have been there for a long time, you know, but I don't expect that. I think that I will be able to tell you how many of you are here. How many of you are here?
00:20:34
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I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it.
00:20:59
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¿Cómo el quiercosa en aja algo que? ¿Cómo el quiercosas? ¿Cómo el quiercosas? ¿Cómo el quiercosas? ¿Cómo el quiercosas? ¿Cómo el quiercosas? ¿Cómo el quiercosas? ¿Cómo el quiercosas? ¿Cómo el quiercosas?
00:21:24
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Oh, I mean, see, I'll go pass out, or I'll call her cosas, because in the same manner, we don't want to have a photo. We just want to have the photo of the ninjas and the cantaleta total, because that's the way it is. I mean, there's a lot of tolerance here, but we don't want to have a photo. It's a commentary, but we want to have photos of the ninjas. I mean, that's all. I can't tell you, because I don't want to pass through it, because I think it's going to be great, the ninjas are going to win. So, of course, we're going to have a lot of fun.
00:21:54
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Largo is he it on me. So what are the tardes? I'll show you la mañana Colombia me papa's thought. Oh, yeah, compete. I'm a joke. Anyhow, I saw Lisa's in total then me papa's in town in la sala concert in Tico and your commissary visit when a Papi is still on the other. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
00:22:14
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El, el, en milos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos, en el tíos,
00:22:37
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and organize them in a different way, because they are different. Marco and David, with those organizations, it's like programming with Papa. And with Papillos, what they do is they say, I don't know what to do, I don't know what to do with them, I don't know what to do with them, I don't know what to do with them, and David, I don't know what to do with them, I don't know what to do with them, and so on.
00:23:04
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and I'm here with you, my name is Josie Joy, and with me, Papa, I'm going to go to America. We're going to have a conversation with you, the people who are here today who are here. We're going to have a good time, we're going to have a super, super weekend, we're going to have a good time, we're going to have a good time. And we're going to have a good time for Istanbul,
00:23:31
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and she said, she said, I'm going to go to the village, I'm going to go to the house with a friend, with a friend, and with a friend. And she said, I'm going to go to the house with a friend, and I'm going to go to the house with a friend. And she said, I'm going to go to the house with a friend. And she said, I'm going to go to the house with a friend. And she said, I'm going to go to the house with a friend. And she said, I'm going to go to the house with a friend. And she said, I'm going to go to the house with a friend. And she said, I'm going to go to the house with a friend. And she said, I'm going to go to the house with a friend. And she said, I'm going to go to the house with a friend.
00:24:02
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y habla muz largo, pero largo es largo. Sí, en eralmenta alamos que enseviente minutos, está vez habla muz el dole. Me con to, hasta el pescá, que se comión, el lucar en el que estú lo el izioso que a via pasado está feliz, feliz, feliz, feliz. Hola muz mucho, mucho, mucho mejos, bueno, no? Y jalones a tranjar, porque me papám, y raméico, herma todo logo.
00:24:25
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And the consultation, and the consultation, is very important. It's very simple, you have to have all the things you need to do, all the things you need to do, all the things you need to do, all the things you need to do, all the things you need to do, all the things you need to do, all the things you need to do, all the things you need to
Receiving Difficult News and Emotional Impact
00:24:48
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do.
00:24:50
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Está a yo haciendo con mis hijos es noches y ine, crespetica, se programita, elicioso, cuando sono el teléfon, y aí foy que recidir la noticia. Ese fue el momento de la noticia que héch.
00:25:07
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And. In the same moment, but if we is a part of it, you see just a book that does this, because you can't do it. Most of the cases, no, I go on to the center. This is this way. I keep up in the end of the museum. OK, I'll am is my esque los gente espero. I don't know.
00:25:27
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I think it's a moment when I'm on the telephone and I'm on the other side of the phone, but I don't know how to contact them. I don't know what to expect from the telephone, because I don't know what to expect from the phone. I don't know what to expect from the phone. I don't know what to expect from the phone.
00:25:51
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:26:17
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And I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her, I said to her,
00:26:42
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But, no, I don't know why. I don't know how to say it. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why.
00:27:01
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Estoy es un mal suaños pero, estos parte la película que me está bien, y está la televisión, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
00:27:15
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And see Japan's okay. That's it. Oh, come on. Love is in me. Yeah. Okay. My sense. Oh, Kaya. A palpitami. Corazon. Joe's in Tia. Kill Corazon semi. Well, as a leader, Joe, Joe's in Tia. Killa. Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:27:39
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And as you can see, it's very important, but how do you see it? How do you see it? How do you see it? How do you see it? How do you see it? How do you see it? How do you see it? How do you see it? How do you see it? How do you see it?
00:28:01
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Hello, my name is Mirmano, my name is Mirmano, my name is Kisi, I'm a communist, I'm a communist, and today I'm here with you.
00:28:12
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No pues esta Maria, esta, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,
00:28:35
Speaker
I have learned a lot of the things that you do, how you do it, how you do it, how you do it, how you do it, how you do it, how you do it, how you do it, how you do it, how you do it, how you do it, how you do it, how you do it.
00:28:59
Speaker
y que le cintas el calorcito, porque el calorcito eso cuerpo en esta momento, nunca más lo a mosa albera sentir, y yo quiero que tu los cintas por mi, porque yo esto un muy lejos, y yo quiero que los cintas. Para miero como una necesía como en tocado, y lebera y por favor pon le, el tole fon en el oílo, porque me quiero esperir te el.
00:29:39
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And thank you very much. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. You're welcome. I love you. And I love you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
00:29:39
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:30:00
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A part that the girls that we have today, that we have today, are the mothers that we have today. And I'm happy that they are here. But they are here. They are here. They are here. They are here. They are here. Many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many
00:30:19
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and the colloquial, the díje toda, the diagrada, the sí. And the díje, as opposed to, like I said before, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I
00:30:44
Speaker
And I think that's why I'm more and more and more and more and more. I love the world, the kind of things I love, the kind of things I love, the kind of things I love, the kind of things I love, the kind of things I love, the kind of things I love, the kind of things I love, the kind of things I love, the kind of things I love, the kind of things I love.
00:31:06
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I think it's important to know that I live in Colombia. I think that I live in Colombia, but I live in the Congo. I live in a terminal, in our country, in our country. I live in a country where everyone is part of the country, part of the country. Totally. Yes, totally. It's literally like a dimension of what I see. It's a connection, it's a thing that I like to describe.
00:31:36
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¡Halo dos días, díacamos, díacamos a Colombia, y cuando yo entre a la, ah, bueno una, a las cosas que me de muy duro, y ago en facis en estos porque, porque siempre tenemos rotinas. Una a las cosas tristes con el duello, con una muerte, es, ah, rancar con una vida, ton de la rotinas un otras.
00:32:01
Speaker
I think that creates a lot of routine. I think that creates a lot of transformation in the city. And for me, one of the most important things in Colombia is to have a lot of energy, electric energy. Because my papa is there, she is there, she is there, she is there, she is there, she is there.
00:32:30
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In this event, it's going to be great for all of us. It's going to be like this video. I'm going to tell you all about it. I'm going to tell you all about it. I'm going to tell you all about it. I'm going to tell you all about it. I'm going to tell you all about it. I'm going to tell you all about it. I'm going to tell you all about it. I'm going to tell you all about it.
00:32:56
Speaker
It's like a piece of paper and a paper, and it's like a paper, and it's like a paper, and it's like a paper, and it's like a paper, and it's like a paper, and it's like a paper, and it's like a paper, and it's like a paper, and it's like a paper, and it's like a paper,
00:33:20
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This is my question a lot. We are all different. We are all different.
Acceptance and Life Transformation
00:33:28
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We are all different. We are all different. We are all different. We are all different. We are all different. But for me, it is a must. I am the one who is here.
00:33:45
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¡Hos a para mi como que parte de ticho asepter es a realída!
00:33:51
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It's very beautiful, very beautiful, very beautiful. And I'm going to tell you something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something.
00:34:18
Speaker
It's a little bit natural, but a little bit of commentary. Thank you. At the moment, it's all about love. It's like the moment in one of the main areas, it's about the context, and it's very good, but it's like a balloon. Very good, but it's because, for me, it's not possible to maintain it. How do you feel? It's very impressive.
00:34:41
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the aunties day y el después de Catalina Osorio Arteaga Coach. Sí, Osorio, Arteaga Coach. Sí, Osorio, Arteaga Coach. Sí, Osorio, Arteaga Coach. Sí, Osorio, Arteaga Coach. Sí, Osorio, Arteaga Coach.
00:35:05
Speaker
¿Qué un sío, ¿Qué un sío? ¿Qué un sío? ¿Qué un sío? ¿Qué un sío? ¿Qué un sío? ¿Qué un sío? ¿Qué un sío? ¿Qué un sío? ¿Qué un sío?
00:35:33
Speaker
Is he real? I mean, this is the first one, the second one is OK. Listen, Jamie, the pasta. Exist, you know, money, right? Ferrante. Come all the way in corporate media. You can look at it as it comes along. I think we are kicking in. I know. I'm talking to you, but I can't see. No, I don't know. I don't know. OK. Look, look at us. Look at us.
00:36:03
Speaker
Están ciertos a como que son differentes partes no de el proceso de uno y lo que de histe a los a lo que sías de como hoy a como e de el primeráño como hoy a prendera vivir son ejos y luego como hoy a prendera vivir
00:36:21
Speaker
¿Cómí? ¿Cómí? ¿Cómí? ¿Cómí? ¿Cómí? ¿Cómí? ¿Cómí? ¿Cómí? ¿Cómí? ¿Cómí? ¿Cómí?
00:36:43
Speaker
So, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's
00:37:00
Speaker
I mean, I would say it's been a little more, no? For me, for example, a little more. There are many parts. Yes, for him, it's a commentary, like how I like it. It's a commentary, oh, gracios. And yes, a little more is an affirmation, a process.
00:37:23
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Okay, so I'm choosing it, see? I was going to say, it's not my channel.
00:37:47
Speaker
As Ali said, we are human beings. And in this process of doing it, what do we do in the case of us? What is one of the things that we do in this case of us? In this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case,
00:38:17
Speaker
and I think that's why I'm here in Columbia, but the time I'm here in the studio, David, my name is Tam Bien, and I'm Tam Bien. In those days, I'm going to have a conversation with Legales, which I'm going to talk to you a little bit later, and I'm going to talk to you about all the things that you're doing on this podcast. Three of the things that I love, Legales.
00:38:45
Speaker
De una manera, clara y sensigia con untinto, con una sodita, con una cervecita, con verse en lo mané en lo se, palo, que no le toque a uno lidiar con estas cosas le galen malucas en medio de tanto olor, en medio de tanto caos. Esmás, yo eso de lori a plantia, mi perform.
00:39:06
Speaker
How do you know that this is the end of the story? The end of Papi. It's always a part of our lives. It's always the end of the story. It's always the end of the story. It's always the end of the story. It's always the end of the story. It's always the end.
00:39:26
Speaker
decidivos, aquérico decidivos, que hos hacer, con tú decidivos, con tú relación, con tuscosas aquí en le quéredar que organizado, que bueno, haci cata tenes talar, son, no un casaí,
Funeral Planning and Family Burden
00:39:40
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son. Pero yo dí, he bueno por lómenos de alguna manera lo, como que tu ek, la, um,
00:39:47
Speaker
La initiativa. La initiativa, it's a la pala jora de tocare se tema. Entos ese lo deco a todo, a los que esta nescuchado, se tienen manera de mi nima mente, tienen un a hacer lo funerario, eso lo postejo un mi instagram, porque yo día. Sá una tener, se quier cuenta esemismo día, que lo cura.
00:40:11
Speaker
de españos dimos cuinta que a bien un montón, que pore esta coperativa, que pore esteban, que pore estenos aqué, que pore estes en semas, us adión a otra manera, son cosas de las que nosotros pagamos, pero por temor a la muerte, a ese tema, a esa parte, que no queremos númca, como que mirar, ni siquera los habemos. Entos de la informaciones, la informaciones, es muy uti, cuando se tienes, cuando se eve tener.
00:40:36
Speaker
Claro que nuestros días, me parecir recirium commentario, que me parecir como tanglindo, tanumano, le diejo a un amigo turco, y le es que estan complica, o que una níse quiero, se apa, sí tieno, no sí lo funerario, que tiene, no hay cata mejor uno nos amoreso. Para una estar ocupado, haciendo esas bueltas, mítras que esta pasando todo lo otro, se hoy una forma más, como a de mostrar que hací la personas temo,
00:41:06
Speaker
Ami metto que liliar con alco? Que ser el la ciena cos umerte pero, no como con el echo, no como connectar, me con los lemosión. Os ambe de que hame la casa giórando? Te hame yo salgo y aberigo, que lo que tengo, que hacer. Itas en el caso, en el caso, eh, el el comentario de prefiero estar distraido, que estar, en la semosiones. Pero lo que pazas que, y pazas, lo que sasa, grando toasas, que hosas de legales y todos, so giólo llamos como el business of death.
00:41:35
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You know, all of the parts, how do you say it? All of the parts, how do you say it? All of the parts, how do you say it?
00:41:59
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is, lo que bien deja es pues, que se hace con la casa, que se hace con las cosas. A suficiente, suficientes cosas para distrar uno, no? Que bien más de solamente lentier, un tonces sí, hay cositas que uno, ya puede ejar, como medio, et chito, le dá un poco ese espacio, para la persona de poder, tener el su processo, de una eso momento, a no se puede queran ser como tá amigo de, más bien, que no está, como puede está.
00:42:29
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What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think?
Grief's Complexity and Emotional Tasks
00:42:59
Speaker
The amount of money that comes from the parties, and the color of the money is very special. And when we operate it, we don't want to go to the bank, we want to go to the bank, we want to go to the Tranquila. But at the same time, how do we do it? If we are going to the tsunami, if we are going to the tsunami,
00:43:25
Speaker
Y era otra vez sentir ese dolor es angustia esa perdida ese deses spero esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, esa, es
00:43:54
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Si, lo lo gracias estas hertos funto. Pero yo mi ocordo que no es está con mi mama en la finca. Y no se estamos, toman de un café, estamos hablando de algo, completamente, relevante, e yo momento to- Mami, me ocá tí, que te paso, mama se muy ami papa. Pero eso, fe como los tes días. Y mi mama se que o mirando, me como, como hay, pues como.
00:44:20
Speaker
I said, how many years? How many years do I have? I said, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know,
00:44:49
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No sabemos nadas, or el todo elo.
00:44:52
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No sabemos, nadas, or el aspertidas. No sabemos, como amos a reactionar. Entonces, yo tengo supremeamente clado, todo esto que yo senti, todo esto que yo vivitos, porque yo dígo esto lo tengo que tenel fresquito un mi mano no para que me casa de lor, si no para que yo pate ne rona empatía un entendimiento una compación y una amor por las personas que estan pasando de sactamente por lo mismo.
00:45:22
Speaker
For me, when I was in Colombia, I didn't have much to do. I didn't have to do it. I didn't have to do it. I didn't have to do it. Because it was good, because it was good, because I didn't know it. But how was it possible that I didn't have to do it? What did I do?
00:45:44
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Por que a mi nadie, me dijo, que litera almente, me gi Buena dolier las mitocondrias, y yo es olora repetya mucho, me doe el las mitocondrias, oza, la parte, donde la salulas, próducen la energía, vital.
00:46:00
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Ami me oli aeso. Yo sentía que yo mestá es energyzando. Yo sentía que yo está pérdendo como mi fuerza vita. La mi yo tenión dolores, carado, ori yo ese a. Como es posí la que todo el mundos, el amore el papalas, mamalos, hermanos, bueno. ¿Ay también también martes al redor? Pero no habla, moste esto.
00:46:39
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De resto, no sabí, no pues, you know, encho tambié me esto en ese o hárco, porque la Catalina de antes de tambocos
Communication, Empathy, and Grief
00:46:46
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a bien, mucho que esir, muy no, te a compaño, un abrazo, sa yo, yo, era como más desde la parte affecti, o atemando un abrazo.
00:46:46
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¿Cómo? ¿Cómo? ¿Cómo? ¿Cómo? ¿Cómo? ¿Cómo? ¿Cómo? ¿Cómo? ¿Cómo?
00:46:56
Speaker
Que estoy, pero realmente, pues no tenemos, ningo enti puedo cación al respécto. Que diz de sabora. Que diz de sabora diferente, lo que es porque para mi, a un que tengo mucha empatía y conos cosentimiento.
00:47:37
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Jodie, go home.
00:47:39
Speaker
What I like about it is that it depends on the gradation of the person. But what I like about it is that the gradation of the person depends on the person. But what I like about it is that the gradation of the person depends on the person. But what I like about it is that the gradation of the person depends on the person.
00:48:02
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Because, yes, because I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am. I don't know who I am.
00:48:50
Speaker
Catalina, cadaquién, vído estuduelo, de una manera muy singular, ahora. Cuando yo vejo que la persona lo que necesitas un empo concito, un permicito. Como en los a vez que? Estas en todo tu derecho estar triste. Estas en todo tu derecho, hastar completa mente de hastado. Como que a vez en la gente, lo que necesitas, es escuchare, eso, como hay cuerme ahres, yo que leena uno permíso estar triste.
00:48:56
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normal, porque no quieren estar imaginando más eso.
00:49:40
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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
00:49:41
Speaker
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00:50:07
Speaker
Oza, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo
00:50:30
Speaker
No esto es un permal, y yo le es y a amigo. Sá vez que nuestad mal estas triste, estas triste. Es un vez estar mal, lo que paz es que la con notación nuestra, de estar tristes estar mal, de estar con nuestad y es estar mal, los atolos, negatolos, entimientos.
00:50:51
Speaker
¿Qué nos a en felicidad de oforia? Emotion, motivation, plenitos, en toces, en toces lo que no estan delicios, en tierlo, en toces toes malo. ¿Sulé sieno estas tristes que se temurion? Tú mama.
00:51:07
Speaker
It is value. It's because one sentiment value a la exactamente esto con una amigo a préciso estamos un lando esto de como por decirálí en cuando tien. Están digamos que están encios por alguna cos por alguno tío. Y aces aí pero no nuestes ancios uno estes, you know, nirbios, umédico primero que todiene total má ballides en ese momento que la personas de nirbioso, ancios, que va a deo, you know, que va a pasar al, o que paso algo, o que se a.
00:51:36
Speaker
E entos es aura es de que el isto si testa para el isando esa emocion a sero tras cosas o que como puedo había. Validar puedo el emote esto, si. Validar, si. Validar pe y también a la vez de ver como puedo nabe gartúvida toda via con esa emocion es que es que es una cosas diferente que la emocion se a la que este con duciendo el caro a que la emocion este de pasajera.
00:52:05
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Mm-hmm.
00:52:26
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Felicidad, amor, cí lo que decías, cuándezas están de conductor está bien, pero si la que está con, sí me tienes pero no en realidad de llamos her todos un, como nuestros a compañantes y todas un validas y cuándo le amos tambias. Todales que mira, yo aquí tome abaría noticas que yo quería que no se mejor en a pasar, mencionar las que para mi foro muy importante, y una esas es el maniguelas emociones.
Emotional Rituals and Healing
00:52:56
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I'm very happy to be here today. And today, I'm going to talk to you a little bit about the world of Pescaíto and Lumnito. And today, I'm going to tell you a little bit about the world of Pescaíto, because the world of Pescaíto is so beautiful. And today, I'm going to tell you a little bit about the world of Pescaíto. And today, I'm going to tell you a little bit about the world of Pescaíto. I'm going to tell you a little bit about the world of Pescaíto.
00:53:21
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And she said, well, it's a ritual, it's a miniaturist, but it's a little annoying because you can't do it. And I was like, oh, I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this.
00:53:47
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Don de tiene, en todo la vita lida, todo a la legria, todo a las cosas numera vidios, as de la vida, pero, pero, pero mestre especializando en muerte, en todo se es como el principio de la vida, el final de la vida, y todo lo que estan la mita.
00:54:03
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And I think that when I was a teenager, I didn't know anything. And I think that when I was a kid, it was completely, sensibly. And I think that when I was a professor, I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know how to do it. And part of that was that I had a lot of conversations.
00:54:22
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And three, it's one of the most important things, like with the religious, the significant religious. I don't know how to say it, but I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it.
00:54:46
Speaker
The first, the first, the first thing that I do with my alumnus is that I have to manage this emotion. Oh, it's the fact that my mom, how I know it, it's so big, and when I see it, I'm like, I see it, and my mom is like, I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going
00:55:13
Speaker
Dejalón el ayito y poder seguir. Sí empeza mosa, esa dejal. Pero que lo que pasa, no e palíación. No zamos como manejarlas a parte de dejeso. Estar bravo, es negativo, estar triste, es negativo, estar angustiado, es negativo. Entos es, cuando sentimos, es uno sentimos que. I know, us hasta esta en esta bien. Yo mea cuerdo que esta? Ay, eso de esta mal. Ay, eso de estoy a siento a el lo que esta mal. See? Entos, esa, I know, es que tá bie extra, yo, mi mama.
00:55:57
Speaker
I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this.
00:56:06
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But with that, I would like to say thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.
00:56:26
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In a communication with Linda, who told me that I was the one who spoke the words of the media, she told me that I was in control. For me, it was spectacular. She told me that I was in control. She told me that I was in control. I didn't want to be in control. I didn't want to be in control. I didn't want to be in control. I wanted to be in control.
Finding Meaning After Loss
00:56:56
Speaker
Y yo es y a quiero hacer al coiferente que rico y terminé ligiendo espero raíz de la Muerta, mi pupá y yo de ligo, cuando yo me llama altí, cuando yo paular con alguin, que esta pasando presejo, loríjo, lo puede sera alguin, una cosita, una cosita que de alguna manera le hacer un poquito más límianitos a dolor, eso le accentiva mi vida.
00:57:21
Speaker
When I was with one person, I was like, what? And I was like, I don't know what to do, but I was like, what? And I said, I don't know what to do, but I was like, I don't know what to do. And I was like, no. One of the things I wanted to say was that I didn't know what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do. It's the first day of my life. When I was with one person, I was like, I don't know what to do.
00:57:52
Speaker
It's like literally, like I said, I'm not going to do anything. And I have an inflammation in the cereal. For us, it's a question that I'm going to present to you. What is coffee or what is it? I don't know what it is, but it's a decision. I don't know what it is, but I'm going to ask how it is, how it is, how it is, how it is. Coffee, how it is, how it is.
00:58:17
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Eso me costa, me costato, mar decisiones, en mi travajo, me costa le ron libro, imposible. Por que yo nueva capa de concentrate, and yo ese a que me esta pasando, a parte que yo manejo tres idiomas, yo habe ese de campunto en el que embedesir, pasamella, y ese a pasamella, salzato, mate. Y yo me pregupa, yo ese a que se esto.
00:58:39
Speaker
And I think that's part of the result of the official logic, the new logic, that there is a trauma, because we have to have a security that is a trauma. In those days, if we don't understand, if we don't understand, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth, if we don't know the truth,
00:59:06
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And the other thing is that I'm obsessed with it, because I know that Colombia, which is already in front of us because of the pandemic, has already been in between Paris, with me, with me as well, but with me as
Social Connections During Emotional Times
00:59:20
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well. Because that's why I'm doing it. It's about one. The three states are there. It's about one. So when we're in the Philippines, it's about one.
00:59:30
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¿Qué en llamo? ¿Con qué en mi en rumbo? ¿Con qué en comparto? ¿Qué día? La felicía es conflictamente extrovertía? La tristes, muy introvertía. Entonces, yo un pése, mi obseción aí, yo día. ¿Cómo es que yo no se nada? ¿Cómo es que me nada de me jónada? ¿Cómo es que yo tengo? ¿Sí? Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo
00:59:58
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And, of course, the pandemic, social distancing, the webinars, and the Catalina of Soria is very important. I also have webinars, TED Talks, videos, the liberals, and, well, it's very important.
01:00:41
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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
01:00:42
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And I'm going to say something that I don't know. I'm going to say something that I don't know. I'm going to say something that I don't know. I'm going to say something that I don't know. I'm going to say something that I don't know. I'm going to say something
01:01:07
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And, of course, I would like to thank the congressmen, the congressmen, the group members, and the members of the band, the actors, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members, the band members.
01:01:35
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Y yo en medio de esta, oh, sorry, de estes una mi, emocional por es que esta a pasando. En toso de yo ezía, yo, yo me espedida mi papa, tu en a relación hermos a con mi papa, le deje que lo adoraba, mi papa no su frio, mi papa yo todo el mundo lego, mi papa to una muerte VIP. Hosa VIP, el semoría en su casa, checkando el travajo, un infarto fulminante,
01:02:05
Speaker
I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met, I don't know how many people I've met,
01:02:35
Speaker
And I see a part of a form of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love, of love,
01:03:01
Speaker
It's in, you know, tantismas cosas como estarina, si justo empas con mi cólarellas en con el, y estebuel tana. Yeah, una ci me dado duro. Si, yeah, una ci me dado duro. Como se rías in tenere, de ramientas, hos in tenere, algun tipo de esperanza de que lo que pasa con el alma, cuando fajes. Sá ese tipo de cosas, como me estarías in tenere, si, si. Total, total. En una chárla que escucho en el, eso tambino quiero compartiraca, esta,
01:03:30
Speaker
e mujer de sia, somos tan curiosos con todo lo externo y tampoco curiosos con lo interno. Y a mi esos a me que ogra a la menteosa que pensamos nosotros de que apasar con nosotros con en la dumuramos. Salo pensamos. Estamos simplemente crescendo lo que pueso. Os a por ser Colombiana por a ver salido de un colegio cato olico, puedo tengo una formación cato olica, la cual respecto mucho.
01:04:10
Speaker
We don't know what we're going to do. We don't know what we're going to do. We don't know what we're going to do. We don't know what we're going to do. We don't know what we're going to do. We don't know what we're going to do. We don't know what we're going to do.
01:04:18
Speaker
I think there are a lot of things that are going on here for me, but there are a lot of things that I don't know because I don't know the question a lot.
01:04:28
Speaker
to cancel out a lot, and I don't know if you can tell me what the vision is about. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
01:04:55
Speaker
I don't know if this is something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know. I don't know if it's something that you don't know.
01:05:24
Speaker
Dábámiedo porque pronto pensá, encrágente se le ciobhá ir de la congregación, no se le ciobhá ir de entecerá cómo que no, no, no, no, no, prenden, porque, dábámiedo el perderal y en por el conocí, pero está bien conocer, porque se en ultimas a juda, atener más empatiente otro, otro se rumano, porque conoces un poco más, sore, dos verber.
01:05:46
Speaker
It's a part of our community. It's a part of our community. It's a part of our community. How do you say it? How do you say it? How do you say it? How do you say it? How do you say it? How do you say it?
01:06:14
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What's up? Primitos around the world.
01:06:39
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When I came here, I said, well, this is the start of the year. We are the first, the first, the first, the family, the last, the last, the second, and the second. When we communicate, we are very happy, and we are very happy. We are the first, the third, the third, the third, the third, and the third, and the third, and the third, but I don't know what it means to be here. We are the first, the first.
01:07:05
Speaker
Me tías aurela muerte, mi primito, más chiquitos aurela muerte, en todos de yo dígeno. Este conos y miento, que yo estoy a curiendo, todo esto de lor por el que yo estes pasando de lo tengo que compartir, como me familia maxime que somos tannunidos, en todos, esión embitación por parte de la familia, mi mama, ah, ah, que y va a rir un grupo en what's up para clitema, principal fora la muerte.
01:07:33
Speaker
y que estú bier, el que que sierra, pues que rico, que. Y arran cámos con un grupo foy un somos catorce. El menor tiene vente años, el uni combre, un primo y la majores, mi tía de se sente y sin coa años, se sente y seis. Entos admiram, y pues que son y todos los primos de la mita.
01:08:08
Speaker
e lo que siente la una, lo que siente la otra, como lo divio la una, como lo divio la otra, y fuer, fuer compartir, fuer compartir, fuer crecer, fuer questionar, y eso no ser biotante, y nos a ser bido, tan utíse, mo todos, que yo dije sí esto yo nuevo con mi familia, esto yo lo puede ser cono tres personas, o viamente pues amar un grupo, what's up, de, de puede títiente, mata a ser prejego, un ta jer, una conversación, una cosa, yo, yo, yo quiero compartire esto.
01:08:19
Speaker
And that's why it's so thrilling, because when we're together, we're going to have a family, and we're going to be together with them, with them, with them, with them, with them, with them, with them, with them, with them.
01:08:38
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How do you like it? How do you like it? How do you like it? How do you like it? How do you like it? How do you like it? How do you like it? How do you like it?
01:09:04
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is important. It's important.
01:09:23
Speaker
I was born in Una Mica, which is the place where many people, and I don't know it's Una Mica, but it's a little bit different. I was born in Una Mica, which is a little bit different. And when I was young, I said, I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know what I'm talking about. But I was born in Corazón Sito. What's up? I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Corazón Sito, and I was born in Coraz
01:09:53
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that when you see something, and you see something, you see something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something.
01:10:20
Speaker
Una son recita es uno ei tes tú pensando que estoy superlindo. Es un me parece, es un perlindo y lo ago. La verdad es que lo ago. Es es una a las cosas como que aprendío que me parece muy linda. Y corazos. Es algo sensigio que no toma mucho tiempo, pero le deja sabera la otra persona que esto más el tiempo de mandarlo y que estas pensando. No, es a la parte que estas pensando.
01:10:45
Speaker
Y esa parte de las energias de que sabes que energias de otro vinendos y a ti solamente con esa menzaje, y a sabes que las estan mandando, haci a ti, y tas esentir mejor. Toces y a veces, no ese, buscar las palabras correctas que decircino, de saber que, de hadla saber del guna manera otra, la otra presenta que los estas pensando, que estan en tus oraciones, o tus pensamientos, o tus energias, lo que se a de mandar menzajitos.
01:11:13
Speaker
E cata para para ira que se rando este esta conversación, que nosotras como te dijal principio, te dije vamos hablar, quaranta y cinco me no tojos de jose que es como, en poco de fisir pados, Colombian, hacer la tanas, como nosotras, de para de una hora.
01:11:33
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Um, but, uh, no, no, no, no.
01:11:55
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Yeah. Yeah.
01:12:13
Speaker
Cuentanos como pueden las personas aurita que estas en este proceso de aprendisaje de hacer tus tambientos workshops, o tus charlas, o tus WhatsApp, o tus groupos de WhatsApp, o tus Instagram.
Connecting Through Social Media
01:12:28
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La differentes formas como estas adjudando. Como pueden contactar se contigo que la mejor manera si están escuchando ese esen me relación o con cata y quiero, quiero su hace soría. Que la mejor manera que se pueden.
01:12:42
Speaker
La mañera, y a mejor mañera sería tras instagram, lo que yo isfoy que as un mes, empeza compartir cosas más de stepon todo de vista de mi vida, y lo y se público, yo de juejue no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
01:13:06
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My point is that, for Instagram, we have always been able to meet other people. I'm very happy to be able to respond to them. I'm very happy to be here, to have a chat, to have a cafe, to be able to see them. I have a lot of information. I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be here with you.
01:13:34
Speaker
As I said, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, all the people,
01:14:02
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super super lindo, super especial comida nica del colegio. Y vemos como catorce.
01:14:08
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And I'm very happy to be here with you today. I'm very happy to be here with you. I'm very happy to be here with you. I'm very happy to be here with you. I'm very happy to be here with you. I'm very happy to be here with you. I'm very happy to be here with you. I'm very happy to be here with you.
01:14:36
Speaker
A estoy. Oza, sí es para una charlas, sí es para una conversación, sí es para una sesorías, sí es para una arun un grupo, a estoy, llame pueden seguir, y a por free aljo estaría supera tenta.
01:14:51
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What do you think about your work and the information that you have in the group? And how do you think it will happen? We know that we are going to have to work together because we don't have other people, other people, other people, but we don't have other people that are here. What do you think about your work? Well, as a relative, I think it's very important, and I think it's very important that
01:15:19
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medio tantra ravia de que hay nadie me luvir a dícho, pero hace quiense vente día está yo questionando me luma hina te dos años despué de que sentiez a ravia, yo es y aver catalina. Y si alguiente luvir a dícho que tanto luvir a cescuchado. Y si alguiente luvir a dícho do ha hola alertanto y eso ríle y uveira contau como zu uso experiencia, yo luvir a escuchado, uveira tenir empatía,
01:15:47
Speaker
I have never seen the coronavirus before, but I have been completely receptive to the coronavirus, because I don't know what's going on here, I don't know what's going on in my future. In some cases, it's one of the things that I think is important.
Pandemic's Realization of Mortality
01:16:03
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But in some cases, the coronavirus is something that led to the pandemic and that led to the pandemic.
01:16:12
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de que todos, todos a nieve el mundial, todos el resumanos, a nieve el mundiales tamos, expoestos a nóstirar on a la vismo de que somos in mortales. ¿Hos a como que? Yo ho, nadio, abre toda siempre, la muerte está quí, la tenemos a quie a la ito, ni a el antenia tras, está quí,
01:16:33
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Entonces puede aqué la vida no está dando, no está brian de los ojos de no está y sindo. E es que mi relo habren los ojos. Entonces que rico puerutilizar esto portunidad para bralo para escucharlo as inos de sus, as inos de estres, as inos de ancienada. Entonces con eso quiero terminar, como ejo Catalina problemente antesde.
01:17:00
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Como me encantas a prendercosas nuevo de próndo un tambiúbira, oui esto un poquito la reja. Pero no se hasta que ponto. Pero se lo digo, yo hoy hoya, no esperi no pasar portanto olor que yo pase quigual, que el quiero muerte a trar de lor. Pero tanto un gositante cosa poiendo, no tener un poquito más de ramientas.
Discussing Death with Children
01:17:20
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Cuando toque aso mir, pues como, como nacitocion de esta?
01:17:24
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No.
01:17:40
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¡Alguací no cultar los tampocos de los hijos porque también esas una por oportunidad estan también de tener de conversación con ellos sobre que es la muerte y creando esa resiliencia y experiencia con ese tipo de emotiones y validación sobre emotiones. ¡Santos estos. ¡Totas. ¡Validar las emotiones que no estas entiendo.
Exploration of Death in Cultures and Religions
01:18:02
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Estar abierto a abediguar un poco más sobre, sobre que, que sono trascrencias, estos un visa pródizaje de la compresas de cótico, que sono trascrencias de otras personas de que la muerte, o que son forma del vuelo, cosas a sí en differentes religiones o culturas.
01:18:19
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Y también debarir la el espacio de conversación con otros para hablar más sobre la muerte para no tener le tanto por decir miedo como para la que haci cuando nos pase, también estar un poco más preperados también.
Gratitude and Community Engagement
01:18:37
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Muchas, muchas gracias. A ti, a ti, a ti mi, gracias, te verta que si, me siento su perfeliz. Super, su perfeliz desar aqui, gracias por limitación, gracias por el espa, gracias por compartir lo conto comunidad, gracias a todos los que no sestan escuchando porque de una vultra manera. Esto, es un granito di arena en conces,
01:19:02
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Muchas gracias, muchas gracias, and gracias a mi papa. A tu papa y a me? ¡Vamos a tú papa! ¡Vamos a tú papa! ¡Vamos a tú papa! ¡Vamos a tú papa! ¡Vamos a tú papa! ¡Vamos a tú papa! ¡Vamos a tú papa! ¡Vamos a tú papa!
01:19:28
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01:19:46
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