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Christopher and Erika Scholtes
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This week on the Mothers of All Crime we talk about a semi recent and completely tragic death of an innocent child. Parker Scholtes was left in a hot car for hours on a hot Arizona day in July of 2024. Her mother, a practicing physician, came home to find Parker unresponsive in her husband Christopher's car in their driveway. Erika performed CPR and paramedics quickly arrived at the scene. Unfortunately the efforts were unsuccessful. The adorable toddler was pronounced deceased at the hospital. This left police, the media and us with a big question. Was this a "big mistake", a case of neglect or malicious premeditated murder?
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Introduction to 'Mothers of All Crime'
00:00:23
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Mothers of All Crime. This is a podcast where we deep dive into mothers involved in infamous crimes and scandals. I'm Monica and this is Crystal.
00:00:57
Speaker
Welcome back to the Mothers of All Crime. How are we doing, Crystal? I'm good. How are you, Monica? Amazing, amazing. I
The Incident: Parker Schultes' Tragic Story
00:01:08
Speaker
wanted to talk today about a case that I've been seeing a lot on TikTok, on YouTube, and it's just been ah big media case. It's something I wanted to chit-chat about on here, and I think we can pretty closely tie it to mothers, because I do have some thoughts that would put us in that direction, but the primary person we're talking about today is named Christopher Schultes.
00:01:35
Speaker
He's dad, Arizona, and last year, was july ninth twenty twenty four his wife erica who is an anesthesiologist, came home from work and found their two-year-old daughter, Parker Schultes, unresponsive in the car parked in the driveway.
00:01:59
Speaker
Which in Arizona is wild. Like, not that I'm saying it's okay for any child to be locked in the car, but Arizona is such a hot state and and it was july yeah like it just makes it even more despicable where it is yeah it was 109 degrees out that day which is unbearably hot for anyone to be outside i don't even know if a two-year-old should be outside at all let let alone balked in a car yeah
00:02:36
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Right. Locked in a car in the driveway at their house. So it's already not starting off great, obviously. um Initially, Chris tells paramedics, tells his wife, who is doing CPR in the driveway, she's asking how long has she been in the car?
00:02:54
Speaker
And he says no more than 30 minutes. Initially, that's what he says. And apparently
Chris Schultes: Family and Investigation
00:03:00
Speaker
in the car... model that they have, there's a feature that the air conditioner can stay on for 30 minutes after you turn off the car.
00:03:10
Speaker
I guess it's like a setting. So maybe it was a minute or two without air. Yeah, I've never really heard of that before. don't know why you would need that. Maybe to leave your dog in the car?
00:03:23
Speaker
Or like cool down your car? I don't know. ah That's a weird one. I mean... In Arizona, you might need that because it is so, so, so hot.
00:03:35
Speaker
Right. So situation is... there um the situation is really bad with Parker. She's extremely, extremely hot.
00:03:45
Speaker
She has no heartbeat. She's not breathing. Her mother's trying to do CPR. The paramedics come, they take over, they're transporting her to the hospital. Erica goes with her. um And Chris is still at the house with two of his other daughters.
00:04:01
Speaker
So I should have maybe said in the beginning that Chris is actually
Pattern of Negligence: Chris's Past Incidents
00:04:04
Speaker
the father of four daughters. His oldest is about 16 now from a different relationship. She doesn't live in the home. And then he had three daughters with Erica, his current wife.
00:04:15
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And so he has two older daughters that I believe are eight and six at the time. And then Parker is two. So it's a huge family. A lot of little girls.
00:04:27
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And also, yeah, all little girls. All girls. Yeah. So he tells the police couple of different versions of what happened.
00:04:41
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um basically that he'd been out and about with his daughters earlier in the day. They'd gone to like a jump amusement park thing with a neighbor. And he tells one version where he thought that Parker was playing with her sisters in another room of the house.
00:04:58
Speaker
Another version where he had checked on her while she was napping in the car and she was still just napping in the car. And he is inside playing PlayStation. And so only 20, 30, maybe 40 minutes have gone gone by supplying a lot of different times.
00:05:15
Speaker
And in one time saying that he went out to the car to check on her. We love a consistent story. Yeah, this very consistent.
Courtroom Defense: Erica's Support for Chris
00:05:26
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So Chris is at the house with police and Erica is frantically calling and texting from the hospital.
00:05:35
Speaker
And she wants, she wanted Chris to be transported to the hospital and the police were saying that they would, but they wanted to get a statement from him first and So in the initial time of the police speaking with him,
00:05:53
Speaker
They um get word from the hospital, from Erica, that Parker has not made it. She's passed away. And Chris is obviously distraught. And he wants to go to the hospital to be with the family.
00:06:06
Speaker
But a fur before that, he tries to go shower. The police don't let him. They say they need to supervise him all the time. And he starts to get kind of agitated. And they tell him that this is a crime scene and that they need to treat it as such.
00:06:20
Speaker
And he is... extra, extra hysterical at this point. Um, and so apparently this is not super new behavior for Chris and he actually has a pattern of leaving the kids in the car.
00:06:38
Speaker
There are and Arizona is the craziest place, too. so his daughter, who is from a previous relationship, says that she's been interviewed and there's multiple articles online where she says that he did that all the time, that he would just leave her in the car.
00:06:57
Speaker
He would go into stores. He would go in the house and he would just leave her in the car and that it would be really hot. And it would be for long periods of time. And some of the really, in my opinion, damning stuff that's come up is that there are text messages from previous months and years from Erica to Chris saying things like, you haven't shown you can stop putting the girls in danger or treating me badly.
00:07:28
Speaker
Even yesterday, you drove home drove home drunk with two minors.
00:07:34
Speaker
The day of Parker's death, she said she texted him. There's you can find the screenshots online. I told you to stop leaving them in the car. How many times have I told you?
00:07:49
Speaker
The same day. That day. Well, when she's on route to the hospital. So did the heat she had to know like what she was walking into then?
00:08:02
Speaker
Did I miss that? Well, no. So I'm saying that she she sent that message like as she's in the ambulance with Parker. Oh, with the ambulance part. Okay.
00:08:14
Speaker
I thought you meant like
Legal Proceedings and Unfolding Surprises
00:08:15
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coming home. Okay. We should have prefaced this. This is a little bit of a different episode for us where I actually had not heard a lot about this case.
00:08:25
Speaker
So we decided to kind of keep it that way. um That's true. And... It's just I feel like we've heard of parents like doing horrible things.
00:08:38
Speaker
But this is just like consistent negligence at this point. And if she's aware that he's constantly doing things like that. Like I i would be curious like how long.
00:08:50
Speaker
Like are we talking like. for this relationship because I know the older daughter said this was like a pattern for them but I'd be curious in this relationship that he was in now how long she had been saying things like this because that changes i think my opinion on her on like how long have you been reminding him to take kids out of the car which you shouldn't have to remind a grown adult to do by the way So the you drink to excess or I'm sorry, the the text that I read initially was from March 11th, 2024. And this in incident happened with Parker July 2024. So it's few months later.
00:09:32
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but it's a few months later And it there's several texts though, over weeks where she's implying very similar things where she's saying you drink to excess every time i have been asking for three years for you to cut back, but it's actually gotten worse.
00:09:50
Speaker
Um, why are you driving 138 miles per hour with our baby in the car and alcohol in your system? um Why are you driving 138 in general, sir?
00:10:03
Speaker
Of course. Of course. Yeah. ah It's... That's... So...
00:10:13
Speaker
ie I was shocked and horrified, obviously, to hear about this case, but I've been consistently pretty horrified, too, by Erica, his wife's reaction to this situation, because she has been... So Chris was arrested and has been charged, and when when he was initially being held without bail, Erica came to court pleading for his return, for him to get bail,
00:10:41
Speaker
And said that they needed to grieve as a family, that Chris is this amazing father, that, you know, this is a big mistake that he has made, but it's not reflective of who he is.
00:10:53
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And he ended up getting Bond and he is currently out on Bond.
00:11:00
Speaker
Only on $25,000. He's on the, he's this amazing father that I don't trust with my children. I allowed to be around my children, but don't trust with my children.
00:11:13
Speaker
So
Public Image vs Reality: Chris and Erica
00:11:15
Speaker
I kind of think she trusted him too much, honestly. And he was kind of a stay-at-home dad, which I, in general, kind of love that idea. I think that's lovely.
00:11:25
Speaker
i think that he just was an alcoholic and couldn't really hold down a job. And it's very... It's so sad and depressing to think of...
00:11:37
Speaker
An anesthesiologist being at work and her husband's at home that she pays for on the couch playing PlayStation while their toddler suffocates in a hot car.
00:11:50
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And that's basically what happened.
00:11:55
Speaker
I don't know how else to word this better, so I'm just going to say but. It's one thing if you got like single parent working 18 hours a day trying to raise children and do it all and have a mind horrible moment.
00:12:18
Speaker
It's another thing to be unemployed, other children, have other children, aware that they're not with you but you know what i mean like there's no i'm not saying either of them are okay and neither of them are good but like i can't even try to wrap my head around how he got to that place of thinking that this is acceptable behavior not that it is but i'm just trying to think of like how that could even happen when it's not like you have somewhere else to be you're a stay-at-home dad what are you doing with your day
00:12:54
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He was playing PlayStation, which I think could partially explain why he didn't know how much time had really passed because yeah Parker was auto autopsied and the there's evidence that she was in the car for like three to four hours.
00:13:14
Speaker
And like we've all doom scrolled on TikTok and things like that, but When you become a parent, that that needs to become your priority. Like, your children doing something is the priority, not your video games.
00:13:29
Speaker
And... clearly this is a pattern for him like why are you leaving anesthesiologists make good money why are you not getting a like like you know like the mommy helpers that they have that like come in while you're home like why didn't you get something like that why didn't you get a daddy's helper and have someone with him to assure that things like this weren't continuing to happen
00:13:55
Speaker
I think that's a good point. And I think there's multiple issues that I have with this case. One of which is any kind of defense for Chris, because this is not one of those horribly tragic situations that you hear about where someone, you know, they're, they don't usually do the drop off in the morning and they were going to do it that morning and the baby fell asleep in the back and they showed up to work and they just rushed inside and they,
00:14:25
Speaker
Left the kid in the car all day. Right. Completely by accident. On autopilot. Horrible tragedy. Could unfortunately happen to anyone. Even though it's literally my worst nightmare. That's what i was like. I could see how that could happen.
00:14:41
Speaker
Yeah. But this is not that situation. At all.
Legal System and Child Safety
00:14:45
Speaker
And he fully knew she was out there and the fact that he was even bringing up this weird feature on his car that i can the air conditioning can stay on for 30 minutes makes it seem like you plan to leave her out there for 30 minutes right like that's okay because we it no ah But somehow three hours went by. 109 degrees. i don't think you even need to be a parent to know that that is extremely cruel to leave someone in a hot car for hours.
00:15:14
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um I can't imagine, like, a dog, anybody would die in that situation if you couldn't get out. Yeah.
00:15:23
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And he didn't even notice before his wife got home from work.
00:15:29
Speaker
I just, I just...
00:15:34
Speaker
I have no words. I also don't understand why she's like bringing him home. If that was my husband, I'd be like, you can rot in jail if I if i have. No.
00:15:45
Speaker
No. Oh my gosh. For sure. And I think that that's one of the hardest things for me to wrap my head around. She's been just consistently defending him since very day one.
00:15:58
Speaker
And if you want to watch body cam footage, there is body cam footage of the police coming to the house to talk to them in the immediate aftermath. Interviews with Chris and also Chris being arrested. And Erica is just like...
00:16:13
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don't worry, baby, it's going to be okay. Kissing him saying we've got this. It's all going be okay. And it's very, she's very sweet with him and taking care of him. And I assume paying for his defense.
00:16:28
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And like I said, he's out on bond right now. and he is, is awaiting trial for child abuse and first degree murder because this, even though initially he was charged with second degree murder after the autopsy
Conclusion and Future Follow-up
00:16:45
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and ah the amount of time that Parker was left in the car, which has also been corroborated by ring camera footage from their house.
00:16:54
Speaker
um It's now first degree murder. And he she asked for permission to go on a family vacation to Hawaii and Chris got to go.
00:17:06
Speaker
Wait, they approved it? Yeah. Yeah. In May.
00:17:14
Speaker
And this moments. I try really hard to defend our legal system. I really do. But things like that.
00:17:28
Speaker
I know. So basically, he's been charged with first degree murder, which he could get life imprisonment for that, and child abuse charges, which could carry a sentence of 17 years.
00:17:41
Speaker
And he was offered a plea deal. for reduction in sentencing and he denied it so now he is awaiting trial and erica has not been charged with anything and that's kind of what i wanted to talk about and kind of how i feel like it ties into our podcast a little bit because as awful as it is i feel like it's The expectation of men and fathers is different than of women and mothers.
00:18:11
Speaker
And Chris failed every single metric in my book. Like, this is egregiously terrible. But what is Erica's responsibility here? I kind of feel like she is partially responsible for this.
00:18:29
Speaker
I...
00:18:33
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I agree partially responsible. I'm just trying to think of like what the charge would be.
00:18:42
Speaker
Negligence. Child abuse. Failure to report child abuse. Well, she's not a mandated reporter. She's an anesthesiologist.
00:18:54
Speaker
I don't know. Are they? don't know. they considered? don't know doctor. don't assume. I don't know. didn't look it up because i just assumed.
00:19:05
Speaker
Hold on. We can find this out. But, um
00:19:10
Speaker
yeah, I could see the negligence being being an eligible one because, again, there's documentation of her telling him, we've talked about this.
00:19:24
Speaker
Yeah, she is a mandated reporter in Arizona. Okay. Okay. But even if she didn't know that particular day that he had left her in the car, she knew it seems a hundred percent because also in these text messages, he's not denying anything either.
00:19:42
Speaker
Like she's saying, you're drunk driving, you're speeding, you have our kids in the car. And he's just saying, oh the kids were asleep. You know, everything's fine. I don't know why you have to be so annoying, basically.
00:19:56
Speaker
One of the texts is um I is fine. You just hate me. It's like that kind of beautiful grammar that lets you know he's totally sober.
00:20:08
Speaker
So dramatic. And I just can't, I just like cannot wrap my head around what they're going to say at this trial that will possibly defend him and how she hasn't she As far as I could tell, she has not lost her job, and she has not lost custody of her other kids.
00:20:28
Speaker
And Chris is home with the other kids.
00:20:33
Speaker
And it just seems like we're taking a lot of risks having Chris around these kids.
00:20:40
Speaker
He's not allowed to be around anyone else's kids, but also he didn't kill anyone else's kids. He killed his own kid. So...
00:20:50
Speaker
I don't know. like i feel like those other children may be in danger and I don't know that I would trust their mom to keep them supervised. Yeah. And I don't know why he needs to go to Hawaii. Yeah, I'm still stuck on the fact that she is she's going to Hawaii because she knows she's going to jail and it's like the last hurrah.
00:21:16
Speaker
That's what it feels like. It feels like... I know my husband's going to the jail for life and I want one last moment.
00:21:29
Speaker
You know, that's kind of how I feel about it.
00:21:33
Speaker
I do think that's probably, think that's probably the case. She can't possibly think that he's not going to go to prison for this. I'm surprised he rejected a plea deal.
00:21:45
Speaker
surprised he was offered a plea deal. i I guess maybe to save some time and, you know, if he, I mean, he's not not admitting to doing this.
00:21:57
Speaker
He did do it. He's just saying it was an accident, but you can neglect someone to death and have it still be a crime.
00:22:08
Speaker
I guess maybe the argument is that this was like involuntary manslaughter or this was second degree murder or something like that, where this was, ah freak accident that he's responsible for but didn't premeditate but
00:22:28
Speaker
and I don't know if I would consider this premeditated murder but I kind of feel like maybe I would there's just no other reasonable assumption to make after leaving a toddler in a car in 109 degree weather for three hours like what is going to happen
00:22:46
Speaker
I hate that I feel like it wasn't everyone. She's only been out there for 30 minutes. It's the idea of like, that's okay. It doesn't peg me as he would do it.
00:23:00
Speaker
Like, I don't want to get rid. I want to get rid of one of my kids. Like, otherwise he would have left them all there. Right. Or, i mean, we've seen where they've zoned in on one, but it seems like he'd do it to all the kids. Just leave them.
00:23:15
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I guess
00:23:19
Speaker
pre guess premeditated implies intent, right? Yeah. Where that's, maybe there wasn't intent. But I think that it's, it's also, you could maybe argue that his older kids could have gotten themselves out of the car.
00:23:36
Speaker
So he was,
00:23:41
Speaker
It wouldn't have gone on as long, probably, and maybe wouldn't have resulted in anyone's death if he had the older kids in the car. but and But I think, probably to your point, I think that this is someone who is drinking a lot, that is playing a lot of video games, doesn't work, and is not actually watching the kids Because he doesn't even know if the toddler in the car is inside playing with her sisters or if she's still in the car napping and time is just passing. and it's the you know I think it's a pattern of escalating behavior probably because he had left his other kids in cars for long periods of time.
00:24:22
Speaker
His older daughter said that he would just restart the car all the time while she was left in the car. And I think that was more of just not wanting to be inconvenienced. by his kids yeah and he could just play video games and chill and not worry about anything because she's contained in the car literally but if she was in the house she'd probably be asking for things needing things having you know making noise wanting his attention mm-hmm
00:24:54
Speaker
And if she's in the car, I guess he just doesn't have to deal with any of that. So I think it's probably probably more that. Probably just more selfish negligence, which is awful still. And I still think that he if he doesn't get first degree murder, I think the child abuse charges will 100% stick. I just can't see him doing less than 20, 25 years for this.
00:25:19
Speaker
Yeah, no. A child...
00:25:22
Speaker
died who very easily could have not like there's no way he's he's getting something um yeah and he's gonna have a really hard time in prison that's for sure because they don't typically take lightly to murdering little babies um murdering adults they seem to like high five about but like when it comes to children that tends to you ruffle feathers for sure
00:25:54
Speaker
Well, right now, pleading not guilty. i was just checking what his plea was. The plea that he was offered was second-degree murder for 10 to 25 years.
00:26:07
Speaker
I actually think that's a pretty good deal. Especially if he could get out 10. Maybe even, you know, that it's prison time, right? Where it's like maybe good behavior, maybe being really remorseful, maybe...
00:26:21
Speaker
you know, finding God and getting sober and those kinds of things. Like maybe he'd get out even sooner, do like two thirds of it.
00:26:31
Speaker
ah feel like if he actually was repentant and was remorseful,
00:26:38
Speaker
he probably would make a good case for parole anyway. But I just also have a hard time imagining that.
00:26:49
Speaker
I mean, you so You can get sober in prison, but you can also very much not to be sober in prison. So for sure, there is that aspect of just because you're in jail, I meant more getting help.
00:27:05
Speaker
Unfortunately, I guess I meant more what he could say as opposed what he was actually going to do. I don't know if he's actually going find God either, but I just feel like if if someone was trying to get paroled in there in this kind of situation,
00:27:18
Speaker
and they got sentenced 10 to 25 years and you started coming up for a parole eight, nine, 10, whatever years into it, you could probably sell a pretty good story about how remorseful you are and how you've totally changed your life.
00:27:31
Speaker
Even if that's not strictly true.
00:27:35
Speaker
Yeah. Remember though, for plea agreements, he would probably have to admit that he murdered his daughter.
00:27:47
Speaker
And if you're not willing to do that, you can't have a plea agreement.
00:27:56
Speaker
That might be it. That might be why he doesn't want to do it. But it's he's not disputing the facts.
00:28:05
Speaker
He's got to be disputing something because, i mean, yes, there's always a chance that you could be found not guilty and you that There's always that possibility.
00:28:17
Speaker
Particularly in a jury trial, you only need one person to believe there's some kind of doubt. ah But
00:28:28
Speaker
thinking about it, when it comes to plea agreements, if he's arguing or his argument is he didn't mean to do it, then standing up in open court saying, I murdered my daughter, i could see how that would be the I'm not willing to take the agreement if that's part of it kind of deal.
00:28:53
Speaker
Yeah, probably. i think that he maybe needs to believe his version of events and that this was just a tragic accident, which I do on some level think it was a tragic act accident, but I think that it was entirely...
00:29:10
Speaker
preventable and also predictable, which is the really sad thing. And what I keep coming back to is I just don't see how, I mean, I'm sure there was investigations, child protective services and stuff initially. i would imagine, i would hope, but
00:29:30
Speaker
i just, I, I hope those kids are safe. I feel like it's a gamble having them in the same house with him right now. And I don't know that their mother can be trusted to supervise him because she seems to have a major, major blind spot when it comes to Chris.
00:29:48
Speaker
I don't even think she was surprised that this happened.
00:29:53
Speaker
Yeah. And it will be interesting after his trial if they go and go after her because... and It is... and i don't know if I have anything to back this up, but I feel like it's more rare for them to go after both parents at the same time when there's kids still in the home.
00:30:14
Speaker
Like, i I feel like it would be a one after... Like, at the end of the day, she's technically not the one that killed her. So let's go after one first.
00:30:25
Speaker
Make sure we don't mess with that case. And then once that's done... Now let's go after the next one because if not, those kids have to be placed somewhere.
00:30:41
Speaker
And if there isn't a family member who's approved by the state to take them, they're going into the system. And as much as a lot of people believe or not believe, people don't want to go in and take your kids from your home for no reason.
00:31:03
Speaker
So I'll be curious after his yeah trial concludes if they then shift their focus.
00:31:15
Speaker
Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked by that either. i just kind of feel like in the interim, it seems like a big blind spot. Because really nothing's changed at their house. I mean, I'm sure there's like a huge level of grief and sadness that's happening.
00:31:31
Speaker
But... Otherwise, it's still the same parents with their remaining kids at the house. And it's the same dynamic where I would assume Erica is still going to work.
00:31:44
Speaker
So like right now it's summer again. So the kids aren't at school and Erica's at work. So who's home with the kids?
00:31:56
Speaker
I mean, I don't know if he's allowed to be with them unsupervised. I hope not. I guess they're older and he's not violent necessarily, but he's still dangerous.
00:32:10
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know the answer to that. um And i I just did a quick Google. It doesn't say anything about restrictions. They very well could be. But if that's the case, I would have assumed he couldn't go back to the home. If he's going back to the home, I would assume not.
00:32:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:31
Speaker
Like that, that to me gives the assumption that he is able to live with his kids and be like a normal quote person until trial.
00:32:43
Speaker
Right.
00:32:45
Speaker
Right, which is almost unbelievable to me. I mean, the only restrictions I saw were specifically for their trip to Hawaii, that he wasn't allowed to be alone with any other minors other than their kids.
00:32:57
Speaker
But again, who's at the most risk from him is his kids. Right. So, like, I don't think he's going to go on a killing spree in Hawaii and attack a bunch of other people.
00:33:14
Speaker
Right. He would maybe leave the kids alone in the hotel room and go to the bar. i could see that. Yeah. I just can't believe they went. just can't believe they went.
00:33:27
Speaker
i know. Well, you know, they've got to live their lives. They've got to really soak this time in together because he probably will be going to prison for like 25 years.
00:33:39
Speaker
Yeah, probably. But... I just, it blows my mind. i mean, she's a real ride die, like unbelievable. And yeah, I mean, she would have been much better off having him work at some terrible job, making less than minimum wage just to have him not be home.
00:34:00
Speaker
have been much better off also being a single mom and paying someone to watch the kids as opposed to having their dad stay with them. It's really sad, but he clearly can't be trusted. to do even very basic things.
00:34:16
Speaker
Yeah, now it is really sad and it's hard. And like in her position, that is really hard to grasp and tackle and accept and implement. So like, we're not saying that's like an easy thing to do, again,
00:34:35
Speaker
again who wears your priority, who are your priority is is kind of what it comes down to, unfortunately. Yeah.
00:34:48
Speaker
Oh, I agree. Definitely agree. Well, very sad case, but you know, we'll keep updated with the trial that's starting in October and maybe we'll be available to be watched.
00:35:04
Speaker
Yeah. i don't know. All the body cam footage is online. Arizona is pretty open with stuff. So hopefully. I have to go watch it now. now that i'm Now that I'm informed.
00:35:17
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And she's yeah such a cute little baby. I just hooked up a picture of her. And. She's adorable, which I say about most of the kids that we talk about.
00:35:28
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But when you look at their family, like they do a very good job until obviously this happened publicly putting out there that they have like it all together and they have all these matching outfits and activities and smile. Like they definitely present this perfect little family experience.
00:35:49
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online which I think we see a lot. But I thought that was interesting.
00:35:56
Speaker
Yeah. I think that that's pretty common for people who their lives are completely falling apart, that they feel the need to put... a big focus on how their image looks, especially online.
00:36:09
Speaker
And I do think that for someone like Erica and Chris, who she's very successful, she's very beautiful. And oh yeah he looks great in pictures with her and they have these gorgeous kids and they have a nice home and they have the dogs. They have, they have such a a nice life and they could really take some beautiful pictures in Hawaii together. I'm sure.
00:36:33
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But it's, there's no substance substance to it. You know what i mean? Like, it's very shallow. Yeah. And very, there's no, there's no real safety and security there, I feel like.
00:36:49
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. but oh my goodness well would like you said we'll keep updated we'll if anything juicy comes out we'll let y'all know but do you have any final thoughts regarding this family before we get ready for our next mother hmm I just you know I'm just gonna be keeping my eyes and ears open to see what happens with Erica after Chris is all said and done but I think that's I think that's pretty much it
00:37:24
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Anything about from you? No, i think I think I said it all. I'm just very surprised that they got to Hawaii. i That still is baffling to me that they let him leave the state.
00:37:40
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But, the you know, we're going to see what happens.
00:37:45
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We will definitely see. All righty. Well, this is where we leave you. Pick back up next week. All right. Until next time.