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Paranormal Round Table - April 2024 - My Haunted Hotel, upcoming ghost hunting investigations, trucker catches ghost on the highway!
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Paranormal Round Table - April 2024 - My Haunted Hotel, upcoming ghost hunting investigations, trucker catches ghost on the highway!
Ash, ParaMike and Michaela are back for another Paranormal Round Table, discussing the trio's recent overnight investigation at the My Haunted Hotel in Chester, as well as their upcoming ghostly plans before ending on a quick review of a spooky video of something caught on a truckers dashcam in Arizona!
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
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Speaker
Welcome to
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Speaker
the new Power Normal Roundtable. It's been a couple of months since we did the last one. Joining me, as ever, is Mike from Power Mike. How are you doing, Mike? I'm not bad. How about yourself, Ash? Yeah, no, I'm good. Looking forward to recording another roundtable. And we are joined by Michaela from the Power Normal or What podcast. How are you this fine evening? I am very well, thank you. How are you?
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Speaker
Awesome. Awesome. So as we sort of alluded to in the previous roundtable, which was just over two months ago, it's gone pretty quick. We were all together two weeks ago.
Visit to My Haunted Hotel
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Speaker
in Chester at the My Haunted Hotel. We all got to Chester, we all drove up from around the country to spend the night private hire at the hotel. We've talked about so many times on this podcast, on intro's podcast. So yeah, it was good to meet, well, to meet you, Michaela, and to see you again, Mike. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah, always, always a pleasure.
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Speaker
So yeah, so there was 10 of us there for the evening.
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Speaker
Like I say, private, highest, we had access to the whole building pretty much apart from roommate, which is where the Grey's dollars, which you weren't allowed into. However, we did have the rest of the building pretty much to investigate and the bar area for a bit, which was pretty cool. Last time we weren't allowed to investigate down there, so that was good to kind of get somewhere a bit different as well. So Mike, would it be your first time at the hotel? What was your first impressions?
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Speaker
Uh, it, it was okay. It was very quiet and much like a lot of other investigations, although it's, although it seemed quiet on the night after reviewing footage, there was potentially a bit more going on. Uh,
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Speaker
that we initially thought. It was OK. It was OK. Annoyingly, I was a bit disheartened on the night after it had been bigged up so much. And I think my expectations didn't quite meet the reality of what it was. But in the end, it's one of those things where it's probably more active than 80% of the investigations we've been on. Although, as I say at the time, it didn't seem and when it's bigged up as
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Speaker
the most haunted place on the planet i was a bit like it's very it's very quiet for the most haunted place on the planet and that's just me being cynical because that's how the paranormal is generally but yeah so it was your initial takeaway from it Michaela
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Speaker
Yeah, it was quite a quiet night, although we did have a couple of bursts of energy.
Paranormal Experiences at the Hotel
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Speaker
And we know that it does do that sometimes. You can go for hours being quiet and then it'll have this burst. So we had one small burst with lots and lots of EMF in room six with lots of devices going off. And then at the end of the night, we heard some quite incredible footsteps, three lots of footsteps.
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Speaker
two in high heels it sounded like and then the third lot just sounded really close to our heads and as if it was a man shuffling about so much so that I was shouting up the stairs. But no one shouted back. Yeah so we'll come on to that because at the start we kind of split into two groups upstairs. I was with a different group and you guys were together
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Speaker
in room six, so I don't know anything that kind of happened. Well, there's just a lot of EMF going off. What else was kind of going on? What were you calling out or what was you doing from there?
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Speaker
We were calling out and had various devices in the room, the majority of them were on the rocking chair and there was a couple of EMF spikes going on. I'm not necessarily sure how accurate there is because obviously there's Wi-Fi and everything all over the building where there's cameras everywhere but there was a REM pod that was going off on the chair which
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Speaker
when we used it two weeks prior to going to my haunted hotel didn't go off once at all in us using it so that added some validity to to the to the REM board going off um other than that i can't quite remember much else that happened in there i think there was actually yes again there was a bang at one point that sounded like it was from room five
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Speaker
which may well have been but Michaela's a lot more au fait with with the hotel than I am and there were other people upstairs at the time so once again I'm inclined to say it's not paranormal because there's other people and you can't rule out other people upstairs in the building but I don't know
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Speaker
Well, we don't know really. I did send the timestamp off to Danny, but he hasn't got back to me either. He's too busy or he's not interested. So it's a shame because I would have liked to have found out whether somebody was banging in room five, because if there wasn't anyone in room five at that point, then that was quite a big bang actually. It's one of those weird ones where
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Speaker
It certainly sounded a lot louder in the room we're in. So to investigate yourself, Ash, in room four at the time, it probably wasn't you, and it may have been paranormal. Yeah, because we were in room four, which is kind of further along down the corridor and around the corner from kind of from room five. And we, on the whole,
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Speaker
It was quiet. We we didn't hear any banging something like that. So to put a bang I know that wasn't us at that point that we were in room for because we didn't make any banging noises we heard footsteps Could be heard someone walking in the car. That's about half an hour been in there We heard someone walking in the corridor. Obviously, it's very very creaky. I
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Speaker
I must be you guys moving rooms or doing something so Sarah can investigate pop the head out and There's no in the corridor That I hate to burst the bubble. That was your brother. I call him. I locked off and they Your brother and his fiance went into room one and that was where all the creaking was from and then a couple of seconds later I can hear Sarah poking around going someone out here and
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Speaker
And obviously they're in room one at that point. So they didn't say anything. There was a part where they walked past room six as well. And we kind of had to go. So anyone out there two or three times before.
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Speaker
before he promised to go, yeah, it's us. And we were like, oh, OK. So yeah. That makes a bit of sense. And one kind of weird moment we had before we captured all the screaming, when all the screaming happened, was when the phonetic card that the girls had hadn't gone off really at all. And it went off, and it said Harry.
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Speaker
which was just kind of being where we are, just kind of, out of other words, it could have picked out all the names it could have picked. Obviously, probably just as a coincidence, but you're just mad that Harry was the name that came out when he's the owner of the hotel. That's kind of a weird, weird moment, I guess, more than anything. Yeah. It'd be interesting to know how many names are in the bank.
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Speaker
I believe it's made by, what are they called, Phantom Physics? Is that the name? Chris's company. They're made by him, so he should be able to tell you, right, as long as he knows. I was very mad that Harry was, out of all the words it could have said, out of all the names it could have said, Harry. It does make you think a little bit, like, is that just a coincidence?
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Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. And the thing is, as well, we, in Room 6 and then later downstairs, we ran the Alice box
Estes Method Session Observations
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Speaker
and got next to nothing that we could deem as relevant for it. So that kind of adds weight to, I guess, actually getting something relevant when it does come through. It barely went off the whole time we were in there. And I was in the room and it went off. And I come in just as it had gone off. And I said, how are you on the screen or whatever?
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Speaker
It's like a clip out of a sitcom from that clip you showed us where the two investigative girls are screaming, then you put your head through the door going, what's good on in here? So I left the room then, yeah, start the whole side screaming. Because it said Harry, and then Emma says, is that who's in the corridor? Because I'd gone out to see who's in the corridor. And then nearly straight away came back and said, perhaps
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Speaker
Yeah, which is like it said nothing literally for like 45 minutes. No words at all came through and then just came Harry and Said was that could be using the corridor and straight away just came back perhaps So it was it was a bit of a interest interesting one I guess obviously can't do anything with it really but it was kind of interesting No, I mean not unless there's a
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borrow a term from Danny Moss triangulated evidence or something like that. If Harry wasn't a corridor that would have been something. Yeah absolutely yeah yeah but other than that he's just spitting out random words that we probably make fit whatever we want it to because we're human beings and there's probably some psychological ploy somewhere in there.
00:10:08
Speaker
Yeah, no, definitely. So after that, we kind of, like I say, it's quite quiet night. We didn't really get much going on in the rooms and went down to the locker room where we did a double estus. Unless I miss jump the head to anything, but I don't think there's much happening between then and. No, we went downstairs, but not a lot happened down there. We went to the bar. Yeah, I went to the bar and there wasn't really anything.
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going on down there for about an hour. I went up to the brothel to do a double esters, like I said. So initially, well, initially just started with my sister-in-law, kind of the first time she'd ever done anything like this, like herself. There's been investigations with me, but not kind of doing the access method. Instead afterwards, she was quite
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Speaker
scared and unsure because you know what's happening so it's really creepy. If you're not used to having that like the word noise in your ear and stuff like that and I guess it can be. Yeah the static itself is a bit disorientating if you've not done it before right so that on top of what could potentially be paranormal in terms of getting word through whatever's definitely. And they're being blindfolded and stuff like that as well so you can't see what's going on around you as well.
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Speaker
It's quite an unnerving thing, really. You have to be able to trust the people you're with, wouldn't you? Yeah. Probably doing it. I mean, probably not too bad in that situation, but I've done it where I'm in the middle of the far way through three of us at two in the morning. It's like, I don't know, fucking clue what's happening now. Like, literally in the middle of nowhere. So it is the fear that everyone with you is just going to walk off and leave you there, right? Yeah. And I know my eyes and no one's going to be like, literally, like, yeah.
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You're not going to do it, but you still think, are they still here? Am I still here? Because you can sort of sense people around you and stuff. Because you're so focused on trying to listen to words and stuff, and you kind of, while you have a sense, kind of disappear. But then when you go back to thinking about it, you sort of come back into reality.
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Speaker
you start feeling cold, start feeling like, am I on my own? And then you start questioning, is people still with me? Am I studying the cold on my own? But yeah. So after that, I took over with the Estus and Emma from True Investigator also had the split box as well. So we both
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Speaker
We both blindfolded, both had the headphones on, and you guys were asking questions and then we were obviously the same way as that came out. Obviously, I couldn't hear anything that Emma was saying or what questions were being asked. So we kind of described what happened at this part. From listening to Michaela's podcast, she remembers it a lot better than I do because I was messing around with cameras and trying to film it and stuff. So I actually can't remember a lot of questions that were asked.
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Speaker
We started by asking who was there and the first interesting thing that happened was that both you and Sarah kept saying the word baby.
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Speaker
and we know that that's quite a familiar theme at the hotel. So it was really interesting that both of you were getting baby, baby, baby, baby the whole time. So just at this point, because I don't think I remember, I don't think I asked at the time, but we were saying it at the same time, or was it at different times to each other? It was at different times to each other, but you were kind of taking it in terms almost at one point.
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Then Sarah was saying things like, I want my baby, don't take my baby. And the gist of it was that it seemed like there was a woman coming through who had had her baby taken away. And we asked a few more questions and she was talking about
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about possibly a sister but we couldn't figure out whether it was the sister of the baby or whether it might have been a nun so she was referring to a sister because I know there was a practice where if there were illegitimate babies nuns would come and take them away and they'd actually sell them to rich people and give the money to the church so that I mean you know we might be
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Speaker
you know, adding two and two to make 537, but it seemed like a sort of plausible storyline as it was coming through from your birth. You've got somebody's name, Wendy, and there was someone, was it Peter maybe came through? But it was about this baby being taken away was the through line.
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And we tried to find out, and she said that her name was Adele, I think it was, and Adele came through, I think, three times. So we sort of put it all together to mean that
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Speaker
Adele works in the brothel, she had a baby taken away by maybe some nuns and we don't know whether the baby survived or whether it was taken away and adopted but that was kind of the general gist of the story that came through which was kind of amazing really because what you were saying and what she was saying tied up together. I know there's quite a lot of
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Speaker
When we finished it, everyone seems to be quite like, I don't know what impresses the word, but I kind of like, this was really weird. That stuff had happened. And I was just thinking, just as you said that then about the name, Wendy, I was just trying to Google it because.
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Speaker
Is it true that the name Wendy was only first used after Peter Pan came out? I'm trying to figure some dates out, so someone was called Wendy. So Patsy Googled this immediately afterwards. I believe it was some, it was on the 1903 or 1908 was the first time that Wendy appeared in literature right after Peter Pan.
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Speaker
But when we started arching stuff around dates, it did sort of start to say late 1800s, early 1900s. So it wasn't specific, but it was around that time as well. And don't
Skepticism and Human-like Footsteps
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Speaker
get me wrong, I imagine it would have taken a couple of years after Peter Pan came out for the name Wendy to take, or maybe not actually, maybe if it was that much of a hit that people immediately went.
00:16:50
Speaker
We call our baby Wendy, but you're absolutely right. It didn't come into popularity until or really exist until Peter Pan came out in the early 1900s. I've always been lighter than that actually, Peter Pan. I don't know why I thought that. That's why I think 50s or something. Allow me to Google it.
00:17:09
Speaker
It was interesting. And it wasn't long after that that we heard the sound of someone what sounded like walking in heels above us. And in my mind's eye, I imagined not the sort of heels that are, you know, the pointy heels, but the kind of flat heels that I don't know, memory poppings might have worn sort of thing. So slightly raised, but quite sturdy. That's what it sounded like to me.
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Speaker
Hmm. It certainly sounded like a weird sort of scraping sound to me anyway. You're right, it didn't. It's probably the wrong term to use. It didn't sound like normal footsteps in like shoes or boots or something. I think the first set sounded quite distinct actually.
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Speaker
But the interesting thing was that with both sets of what may have been women's footsteps the floor didn't creak but when the heavier presence was there the floor was really creaky.
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Speaker
And that would have been directly above us and there was nobody up there when we were doing this. And also Dan Callahan from my hotel was there as well with us. Yeah. And he was just as kind of not sure what it was as we were. Yeah. And that's nowhere near where Harry's flat is, that bit.
00:18:39
Speaker
Yeah, I wasn't sure that was that was the one of the things that one of the to investigate ourselves. Sorry, one of the to investigate girls said immediately once we heard the footsteps, they went, well, Harry's got a flat above us. Yeah, but it's right at the back. Yeah, I don't know. I've not seen floor plans or anything. The third set of walking was certainly
00:19:04
Speaker
It's one of those things, isn't it, where you hear something and you try and convince yourself, well, that sounds too human to be paranormal. And the first set definitely felt like we were there going, no, it sounds too human. And it may not be, but yeah, it was pretty distinct. 1904 for the play, 1911 for the novel of Peter Pan. Apparently. Is that like a true
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Speaker
think that Wendy wasn't used. It was a made up name for the show. He made it up out of thin air. The name Wendy was not invented for Peter Pan, but J.M. Barry is credited with having popularized the name. So it might be the case that it existed, but no one was calling their children Wendy. And then, as I said, the novel ever comes out and people go, Wendy's a nice name. Yeah, I was. I really thought he'd made it up.
00:20:03
Speaker
I thought he had as well. I guess not. It kind of depends where you read it, I think. Some places do say it was first coined for Peter Pan. I was going to say this is off of Google, so what's true and what's not. I don't know.
00:20:27
Speaker
As I say, it was it was one of the to investigate girls who immediately went so went Harry's flats up Harry's flats up there. Up there is not very specific. It's definitely definitely wasn't right above us where we heard the noise. That's not where his lattice. No, no, I, I don't know, because Dan Callahan was adamant that it was sort of the corridor and he said that room five is sort of smack dab above where the brothel section is. Yeah.
00:20:56
Speaker
and I guess the corridor up there and he's probably got a better grasp on that sort of stuff as he's there all the time. Yeah, I don't know. I'd say for my mind, that's one of those things where I kind of go, it almost sounds too human to be paranormal. Because then that went up.
00:21:18
Speaker
A, to check there was no one there, and two, or B, to see if we could hear his footsteps, but he didn't go into the room, he'd say he just stayed in the corridor, and his footsteps weren't where... We heard it, yeah. Probably from the room five rather than the corridor. Yeah, that's also inconclusive, right? Because if he's not going to room five, there's no actual way to test that they're in room five directly above us, if he's not going to admit it. If he'd gone in there and we started hearing him moving around above us,
00:21:48
Speaker
than case closed one about her right you know it's room five is directly above us but yeah so that was the kind of the essence method and after that things kind of backed up a little bit and most people went home at this point leaving just me and Michaela in the building on our on our lonesome this is kind of where I had my
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Speaker
kind of weird moment. There's obviously all of this stuff at the footsteps and everything else. I didn't kind of hear that because I was being received for the Estes. And so I was, everyone had gone home and I was in the brothel room talking to Dan. No one else was in the brothel room. I thought everyone had gone. And I assumed Kayla had gone upstairs to the room we were going to sleep in. And so talking to Dan, the whole place was dark and empty.
00:22:39
Speaker
So I go upstairs, said goodbye, goodnight to Dan, then I went upstairs. As I went into the door to the corridor at the top of the stairs, I heard a hell of a lot of noise coming from either Room 6 or the corridor outside Room 6 leading to, is it Room 7? Whatever room it is, I'm near Room 6. So I thought I must be Michaela.
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Speaker
And so it made me doubt. So it didn't actually go in. I just shouted. Kayla. No response. But I can still hear what sounded like. It sounded like bags being moved, like you moved your suitcase or whatever, like in the room. It was really weird. No, it was definitely coming from either the corridor or Room 6 or Room 8 potentially.
00:23:24
Speaker
that whole area. I shouted again, no answer so thought I'd go in the room and if no one's in there I've got to absolutely break myself because they've definitely heard movement in there or they just go down but then at this point I then heard the cable talking to Dan downstairs.
00:23:41
Speaker
I don't know where you've been, the toilet or something downstairs, I don't know, but then you're talking. So I just went and stood on the stairs and ended up where it was light. I'm just waiting because I was so freaked out at this point because I... Your face was a picture when I came out. I was like... You're holding all your equipment like this on the stairs going... I was like, how are you not in room six? I just heard you for literally at least
00:24:09
Speaker
30, 40 seconds in room six messing around. But yeah, you were downstairs and then, I think I had to call you to go on my own in room six, so we both went in together and there's, yeah, there's nobody about, nothing had been moved. It's really weird, really weird moment. So we stuck our stuff in room six. We could have had some activity in room five, potentially from someone walking in there. We went to room five and as we went in,
00:24:36
Speaker
We had two knocks or taps on the wall where the wall comes out. And two knocks. Sort of straight away, we kind of got some noise in there. We asked for it to do it again. We were doing calling out, but we got nothing really apart from that in the room.
00:24:59
Speaker
No, we did. Don't you forget the really weird light. Oh, the light, yes. Because I've got something to add on to that. So tell us about that first. On to the light. Yeah. So I was sort of half lay on the bed. You kind of sat on the end of the bed. And one half of the room, kind of the room where the door is kind of
00:25:26
Speaker
illuminated briefly like a blue light only in that half room where i was didn't like up only kind of up to the you know room five is like a beam halfway through the room so it's kind of that illuminated but not how it went off but we had no equipment that
00:25:43
Speaker
No, I've had like a flash or equipment that could have lit up to go and he had a K2 meter, which is like green and red. Definitely wouldn't let up the room like that did. And then I saw, I think I saw it twice, definitely, definitely once, technically twice.
Unexplained Blue Light Encounter
00:26:04
Speaker
I don't know how to describe it, a blue, small,
00:26:08
Speaker
round light that kind of came from kind of the bathroom door area towards the dolls and towards the rocking horse. It's like it was on the wall. So it's like, it kind of looked like when you have a watch and it reflects the sun, you can kind of do like a ball of light on the wall.
00:26:26
Speaker
and you've let the light off your watch. It was like that, but obviously none of us were moving, nothing was moving. My watch doesn't reflect that it's underneath his sleeve anyway. But the blue light just went kind of on the bathroom door, across the wall, and then stopped when we got to the rocking horse and then disappeared. And I got goosebumps. I was like, what? I can't explain where the lights come from. Just to interject. Yeah, and I was looked at that point.
00:26:52
Speaker
I was going to say, just to interject as well, that corner of the room, as per the latest episode, is where they heard, behind the rocking horses, where they heard the knocking come from as well, right? Yeah, so that's where we heard the taps come from. Yeah, and I think I met, the fact that I know I sent you the clip, when I was up there alone, I'm sat on the bed facing away from it, and there's two really quick sort of
00:27:18
Speaker
taps come from that wall behind me as well. And I was trying not to shit myself as I sort of stood up and turned around and went, if that was you, can you do it again, please? But yeah, maybe there is something about in that corner then. And then on the Sunday episode, there's a woman sat on the bed and she says, oh, I just saw a blue light go across the room. And then that's when the doll starts playing music.
00:27:52
Speaker
Just before the doll starts playing music she said oh I just saw a blue light go across and it made me go oh my god that's what Ash saw!
00:28:02
Speaker
I have to watch that back. Yeah. That doll's creepy. It's like a music box type. Ding, ding, ding, ding type. And from Dan being, sorry if you've missed this bit, Michaela or anyone else who hasn't, from Dan being up in the attic when he was basically above room five and behind that wall. I haven't seen that bit yet. It just looks like an alcove with potentially like a weird box about halfway down. Oh, and now I do.
00:28:31
Speaker
So I really hope that they tear into it and try and find out what it is. There's plenty more up there. I haven't spoiled it all, don't worry. Yeah, that's a little bit of what was up there. But yeah, that blue light. Like, it literally, for something that, obviously, I've noticed the last time we were there last year, we had so much stuff happen. So I've touched quite a night, but then this ball, this, I don't even, I don't know how to describe it, it's not a ball, it was a round light.
00:29:00
Speaker
Just came from nowhere, disappeared, could not think how that could have come from anything. And the light that illuminated half the room, again, we looked like there's nothing that could have caused that. There's nothing with a light on it to illuminate or flash on or anything. It was weird. And that weird gave me, for the first time in the evening, apart from hearing you in room six, as the time I actually felt,
00:29:31
Speaker
I just got goosebumps now, like just seeing a light, which being a UFO investigator kind of like, oh, similar to your home or blight or something this. Yeah. Yeah, that's just a weird. It's a bit closer when it's in the room with you, though, isn't it? It's a bit more immediate. Yeah, definitely. But apart from that, that was pretty much it. I think we went to sleep around four o'clock.
00:30:01
Speaker
What room did you stay in? Six. Both of you stayed in room six? Yeah. Yeah, I was on the big bed and Ash was on the small one with the wall behind him. And I was just laid with my sleeping bag up to my chin. Yeah, yeah. Woke up. Woke up to the rocking chair going mental. Although, Ash, you said you heard something at 4.30. Yeah, so something like it was either half 4 or 5 o'clockish.
00:30:31
Speaker
I think I probably only just drifting off because it's a weird place to be when you think we're in this room and nobody else is in this massive building at all. I know, you can't relax. I can't relax there to sleep. It's quite a hard thing. So I'll toss in terms a bit, but I watched it, nothing, it was a massive bang. I think it either woke me up or, I mean, obviously I could have been half asleep and dreamt of it, but it was loud.
00:30:55
Speaker
And it was either from the top corridor outside room six or the main corridor, like something had fell or banged. So I was like, oh my god, it's close your eyes. I'm about to sleep because I'm not going out there at this point to have a look. And nobody had me cameras out there. I had a trail cam on all through the night in different places that if anything activated it, it would have gone off.
00:31:23
Speaker
yeah that's that and how's it really yeah a lot of noises around half seven a lot of noises from downstairs so i'm assuming they've got cleaners but they've got um the dream in i think um at that point to deliver all the beer and stuff it's that loud it's like this has to be people yeah it has to be at this point um
00:31:45
Speaker
That would have been really scary, though, actually, to hear a big band. The thing that scares me, and it's so silly, really, it's not the thought of, you know, the voices and spirits and bangings and stuff going on. It's the thought of that bloody Jeanette coming out of her room in the middle of the night and doing something. That's what freaks me out because I don't know. I don't trust her to stay in there.
00:32:15
Speaker
Getting up at three o'clock for a glass of water or something, you mean? Coming to do something horrible to the poor people who were vulnerable and asleep. Yeah, I mean, on that note, it was a real shame that we couldn't get into roommate for whatever reason, but I suppose they make the rules. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've been there last time.
00:32:45
Speaker
It's just it's a weird vibe, I guess, but then obviously the built in designed in certain ways to give off ambience different. To maybe ignite different feelings and stuff like that. The way it's decorated. But definitely when you go in there.
00:33:02
Speaker
It does feel different whether that is just your mind. Because you know a lot about this doll and what's happened around this doll and the potential of it. Or you're just more on edge because you've got that knowledge. Whereas if you went into the room, not knowing anything about it.
00:33:18
Speaker
We just think, oh, there's a doll in there. There's a doll in there. Yeah. Yeah. I think also because it's a very small room and it's quite a crooked room and the floor is not entirely straight and it kind of knocks you off kilter a better thing. So, yeah, I mean, and that was it kind of for the night. I'll move you in, like I say, our trail cam.
00:33:47
Speaker
out there, that's one of the equipment. And when I reviewed that, there's basically nothing. It only went off about 12 times. It takes a picture as soon as it gets activated by whatever's moved, and then it takes a 10-second video. And all the videos were just basically us walking past it or whatever, apart from one video at around half one, which is around a time we had the footsteps upstairs.
00:34:13
Speaker
And it gets activated, but there's nothing in the image. It's just the corridor empty. And then for the first three or four seconds of the video, it sounds like there's someone walking or the floorboards creaking right next to the trail cam. And then we have looked at what was activated either side of it.
00:34:37
Speaker
Half an hour before we'd been activated by nothing. Sometimes flies activate and stuff like that, but you can see them on the picture and they'd be quite close to the camera. Usually flies don't activate it that much.
00:34:49
Speaker
And the other one was like two hours after this was when, or a bit after when I moved, can't remember exactly how it was, but there was a lot of time between either side of it. So to have this kind of, don't know why it was activated and to have, it sounds like someone's stepping next to it or the floor was creaking right next to it at the time that we heard the footsteps from downstairs was a bit of, again, a bit of triangulation.
00:35:14
Speaker
maybe knowing that nobody's up there, but it's really, really close to the camera. And it has to detect motion to set it off, right? Yeah. So if it was someone in that corridor, you would have immediately seen them. Yeah, we would have caught them coming up the stairs. Yeah. No other way into. Yeah. I think it's just before that, around the same time, I've got what sounds like what sounds like someone walking around up there, but also walking around like the stairs at the end.
00:35:44
Speaker
or walk. It's really weird because the sound it makes when we're up there walking around is totally different to the sound that I've captured, where it sounds like someone else is walking around up there. Yeah, very weird. Because the floor wasn't that creaky. It's like you'd know when someone's enjoying one of the rooms, like you know when someone's walked past. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, that floor's loud as hell, isn't it?
00:36:11
Speaker
This kind of makes it weird when you do get a smoke banging. Like when we had, last time we were there and someone banged on the door, we moved five. Like we'd heard someone coming up to the door and then walking away from it. And there's no way of not, not making the noise unless you weigh 20 pounds or something.
00:36:29
Speaker
That's one of the biggest factors, isn't it? Where you have like an isolated sound or something without any lead in or lead out. You're absolutely right. If it was someone, you'd hear them coming up the corridor or you'd hear them walking away afterwards. And it's where you get those like bursts of footsteps or a knock or something. Would nothing either side of it that you're like, well, hang on. How is that appearing out of thin air? Essentially. And that adds a lot of weight to something being a bit weird.
00:36:55
Speaker
Definitely. Yeah. So that was kind of our night. Overall, very quiet. Well, I
Reflections on Social Connections
00:37:01
Speaker
was kind of disappointed because the amount of something I had happened last time, which was literally nonstop for four hours in all different rooms, stuff really, really closed day, intelligent responses, both in voice and in the knocking side of things. So then kind of be that quiet. I should be looking forward to meeting. It was a great night, not going to lie.
00:37:24
Speaker
good fun being there. Activity-wise was a bit disappointing, but you can't help that with the panel. I said to you in the group chat, more of the highlight was basically seeing you guys and hanging out with you again, to be honest with you, rather than even if it was a bit of a boring quiet night, it was just nice to actually see you again. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. It's really fun.
00:37:50
Speaker
I don't know why, but it always goes really quick when we're there. It just felt like five minutes. And it did last time I went as well. And I just feel like, no, I want to start earlier and finish later. You think like, oh God, all night you could do all the different rooms, all these different things. And it's like, okay, now it's got something ready. I didn't get anything to do. It doesn't have to be, I didn't go in the museum and so on.
00:38:16
Speaker
We want well being one of them. So it's like not a chance to do anything Yeah, I'd quit I don't well I didn't go into room two three or four whatsoever. So I was a bit like There's some other areas I've not been in Yeah, I mean final guess final thoughts on this for me is I Can't wait to go again. He didn't Despite it being quiet night. I just want to go again. I just want to
00:38:46
Speaker
Be there again, because with the whole thing around, the hotel is the fact that you have so many cameras, so they try and capture stuff. Whereas, you're only there for a couple of hours. You're not going to capture stuff. You have to be there multiple times. Go back to one location. Keep investigating it. Go to one location for six hours. Nothing happened. And then say, oh, that's definitely not a hotel, because nothing happened when I was there. You can't really do that. You have to keep going. I know, basically, the pain is there last time.
00:39:15
Speaker
You can get half of that again. That's what I'd be chasing. So yeah, definitely one going again sometime. Soon as you get the funds to go. It's not a cheap, it's not a cheap night. Maybe in the summer. Yeah. I, I personally can't see myself going back there for a long time, just cause it was a hell of a hell of a trek for us and yeah, expense and everything.
00:39:44
Speaker
So that's fair, that's fair. So moving on, Michaela, as well as the haunted hotel, you've also been to somewhere else quite recently. Do you want to tell
Quiet Investigation at Mitchell and Priory
00:39:57
Speaker
us about that? Yeah, again, it was another very quiet night last weekend. I went to a place called Mitchell and Friary in East Sussex for the second time. And
00:40:10
Speaker
It was really, really quiet. It's a really beautiful priory, setting its own grounds next to a water mill and there's a moat all the way around it.
00:40:25
Speaker
It's just the most beautiful place, but it is really, really quiet. But I met some really nice people there. Again, that was the highlight for me. I took a group round with another lady. And so we spent the whole evening with this group of nine people. And they were so nice that we just had a really great time. We got a few spikes on the EMF, the K2.
00:40:54
Speaker
We didn't get any EVPs. Nothing else really happened, to be honest. We got a lot of interaction on the K2s, so we were sort of asking questions through the K2s. Someone did the estus method, nothing came through. So it was just really quiet, but it's a very beautiful place to go.
00:41:19
Speaker
So you said that was the second time where you've been there. Was there something that happened the first time that made you want to go again? No, it wasn't. I was just helping out with an events company that I've started to go and help out with, really, because I wanted to do more investigations. Various things have happened with
00:41:44
Speaker
Some of the groups that I've been part of.
00:41:51
Speaker
groups tend to fall apart quite a lot due to politics and I keep joining groups and then I don't know if I'm the common factor but I haven't been involved in any of the politics it's just that all of a sudden that I've got these this big pile of t-shirts in my drawer with different groups names on that now don't exist anymore I'm like oh
00:42:17
Speaker
Right, well, that one folded and then this one folded and then the last ones folded. So I thought, oh, right. Well, I still want to go out investigating, but I've got no one local to go out with. So I've joined this events company and I've joined them as a volunteer just so that I can go out. They do events nearly every weekend.
00:42:38
Speaker
So I thought I'd rather be involved even if it is a public event rather than not doing anything at all because I just want to try and investigate as much as I can and learn as much as I can. So yeah so the it was actually a public event I went on a couple of years ago it was with most haunted.
00:42:58
Speaker
But they were very nice and it was fun but we didn't get anything either the first time. It was quite a novelty meeting some of the people from the show, quite fun. So then you know again it was more of a social occasion really because not a lot happened. I just
00:43:18
Speaker
A lot of the staff there get lots and lots of things happening. In fact, the caretaker there said that they'd seen two full-bodied apparitions the week before in the previous week. But, you know, I wasn't there. So maybe they only haunt the staff. I don't know.
00:43:41
Speaker
It's a lovely place to go and it's open during the day if anybody likes to go and look around a nice garden and old house, but I'm sure there are more active places that you could investigate.
00:43:56
Speaker
I'm glad it's going well for you, though, at least, at least, although it's with a public and events company, and at least you're able to be able to, I can't fucking talk, at least you're able to get out there and investigate and everything. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, like the more, the more you do it, right, the more you've got a chance of capturing something or it's enjoyable. So
00:44:17
Speaker
Exactly. And I'm happy to give up six hours of my time, because I don't have to pay to go. I'm helping out. So it's a bonus for me to go and meet nice people and investigate and help them and show them how to use the equipment and all that sort of stuff. It's just really nice, really. Yeah. And like, who knows as well, you might, you might meet your your future paranormal group through, through doing that, so to speak.
00:44:44
Speaker
Yeah, because they certainly ain't around Chichester. I can tell you that. Although saying that, funnily enough, I've met two people at work who are really interested in going in an investigation. So I need to find one. That's one. That's one coming up in June imports for a new son's birthday. Fort Whitley. Is that right? Yeah. So maybe I could drag them along to that as well. Is it sold out yet? You know, probably not. But
00:45:15
Speaker
I imagine if it sells out, that won't be a problem. Yeah, but we'll figure out and I'll have the conversation if you want. Well, that'd be great. I'm really excited about going there. This group that I've joined investigate there as well.
00:45:33
Speaker
and also lots of, they did Portchester Castle last week which I missed, which I'd like to go to as well. I've been there as a regular visitor but I'd really like to investigate there, it's quite atmospheric. I'd love to go to some of these old castles and I don't know, I've got a thing about castles. Yeah, I mean it's, even if it's
00:46:00
Speaker
if you have a particular quiet night, it's cool to go to some of these places and go into areas that people don't necessarily go to, right? Fort Whitley is a real mad one, because it's almost entirely underground. And like me, me and Patsy mentioned briefly about some of the experiences we had there on your podcast, or after your podcast, in fact, became so it's not even out there for public consumption. But yeah, we we can't wait to go back because it was one of those places where some weird shit happened. And we were a bit like, hang on a minute,
00:46:31
Speaker
Yeah, no, I'm really looking forward to going. One that I did that was quite interesting, but didn't really get much was Portsmouth tunnels as well. These series of tunnels, but there's lots of different Portsmouth tunnels. I didn't realise that at the time. The one that we went to
00:46:50
Speaker
is one that's hired out to places like the Navy to do airsoft battles. It's for the Navy people to kind of let off steam and they go and have these massive airsoft battles underground in the tunnels. So there were just literally millions and millions and millions and millions of white BBs everywhere. You're practically skating around on them while you're trying to do the investigation.
00:47:16
Speaker
um but we didn't really get anything but it was really it was that very atmospheric can we look at anything coming up mike you can talk um video from my haunted hotel is out this sunday so subscribe to the channel five o'clock it releases sunday um i'm trying to remember where we are because
00:47:43
Speaker
My head's all over the place. I'm in Portugal next week, but when I get back, it's my birthday. And then Patsy's booked for us to go and stay in an allegedly haunted hotel close to us. So we'll go there and do some ad hoc secret squirrel.
00:48:02
Speaker
No, we're not filming, sort of shit in the room. We've been around the corridors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the West case, we'll film in the room and see if we get anything. I don't know. I don't know how much I can say because if, like most things, places will advertise themselves as being haunted. But if you want to go there and investigate there, go, no, you can bugger off. So I don't know how much I can say about what we're going to do there. Apart from that, in May, we're going to Groundlings Theatre with the events company that we go with.
00:48:33
Speaker
um which they're all really excited for because they've had some great experiences there and they have kind of told us that we need to go because it's really good and then apparently there's a thing about theaters being haunted anyway in terms of music attracting spirits and places were very vivacious and vibrant and stuff so that'd be cool to investigate a fair
00:48:57
Speaker
I did one a couple of weeks ago, King's Theatre in Southsea, which was my first theatre that I've investigated rather than been on the stage of. It was really fun. And it was like a rabbit warren. It was so big with so many rooms. It was quite incredible. I got lost once. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So we're looking forward to that. On top of that, I'm going to start looking into
00:49:28
Speaker
where to book next for, for I guess for a want of butter, for want of a better term for my next event where I'll find somewhere and go, I found this place who wants to come this much money and then we end up in Stoke or something like that. Please come south. Yeah, I need to decide. I need to decide where it wants to be me and Patsy really, really, really want to go back to Tudor world. But I know events companies really struggle selling it out for some reason.
00:49:59
Speaker
And the thing is the group's not that big. So if people don't start, if, if people don't want to go, then that makes it more difficult in terms of ticket prices, et cetera, et cetera. Right. So, uh, I'll have to weigh up. The annoying thing about down south is I don't really know anywhere down south that we could, we could go or private hire or who I have contact details for or all that, all that sort of gubbins. So.
00:50:27
Speaker
Well I'll travel south for this one. So if we do one on the Isle of Wight for instance. Oh that would be amazing. You could stay at mine. There's an invitation.
00:50:43
Speaker
You're good, you're good. Tip the boys out, send them to grannies, then you can have their book beds. But yeah, it's one of those things I need to work somewhere out and then weigh it up. We were talking about the Museum of Horrors, which is the sort of counterpart to the Stoke Haunted Museum.
00:51:07
Speaker
But much like Michaela said, I don't know if I can be bothered to drive back up to Stoke for the next one, especially not as I've been. Up north, it feels like 600 times this month already, so I'm a bit fatigued with all the driving. Yeah, it's fair enough. Driving the north's lovely, to be fair. Driving fatigue is more to the point. But yeah, I'll keep you all in the loop as to where I'm thinking and we'll make a decision and then go from there.
00:51:38
Speaker
Nice one, nice one. Well, I've got a very exciting thing on this week, and I know I keep bleeding on about this, and I keep bleeding on about it to people who don't even know who she is.
Anticipation for Medium Reading
00:51:48
Speaker
So, hopefully... Cinder Cazer. Cinder Cazer! I'm going to go and see her on Thursday, and I'm going to have a reading, and I'm going to get to meet her, because I paid extra, because I'm really sad, and I'm so excited. I can't even tell him. Who's that? I missed. What?!
00:52:07
Speaker
Cindy Kayser. Cindy Kayser. Off the telly. She's on lots of American ghost hunting shows. She's on The Dead Files. She's on the Halls of Files. And she's a really, really famous medium. K-A-Z-A-S. And she's a very beautiful lady.
00:52:31
Speaker
And she's really talented. Sandy. Oh my goodness. Cindy. C-I-N-D-Y. Bloody hell. Oh my God. Is she going to pay us to pre-appolise things? I apologise that nobody's used to know this incredibly famous and talented woman. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Hooray! Yeah, hopefully it goes well for you. Did you... That's cool. You don't have to answer this. Was it massively extortionate to get a reading with her?
00:53:01
Speaker
No in fact less money than to go to the hotel. That is madness because I know when we went to a festival last year there was a medium there who was charging between 60 and 90 pounds for a half hour an hour session and I considered it and went maybe.
00:53:21
Speaker
Yeah well she's incredibly famous and she's charging towards the lower end of that so I mean I don't know how long I'll get maybe I only get 10 minutes for all I know but I'm still very excited and I'll be coming back to you and telling you all about what she told me.
00:53:39
Speaker
You'll be tapping her up for an interview on your podcast. I'd love to, isn't she? I know I've paid you this extra money, could you? But the great thing is, she's coming to the Festival of the Unexplained as well. Yeah. So we'll get to meet her there as well. So my idea is to go, hi, I remember me from the theatre. And hope it's not a repeat of
00:54:05
Speaker
Yeah. I'm sorry. I have no idea where you are. Saying that I did want to go to Parameet.
00:54:20
Speaker
last weekend because it was in somewhere in Wiltshire, but we just didn't get the time, unfortunately, so we're looking at potentially going to the Midlands one, which looks good. Neil Story, Penny Griffiths Morgan and some other people there, sort of like a smaller festival of the unexplained, I suppose. Yeah, I'd like to do that. Or sport alternative, I should say. Yeah. I was quite interested that they called it Parameet South because that ain't South, mate.
00:54:52
Speaker
I'm South, when you're falling off the bottom of England into the sea, that's when you're in the South. What you mean is not as South. It's all on a spectrum. Is anywhere above Reading the North. Above the Watford Gap. Yeah, yeah.
00:55:14
Speaker
To finish this off, I wanted to show a video. Obviously listeners can't hear it, can't see it. But I only saw it for the first time yesterday. Apparently it's about a year old. I wanted to see your guys take on this footage. I'll stick it up on the social media so you can watch the video for the listeners. It was taken by a trucker on an Arizona highway, not sure if you've seen it.
00:55:41
Speaker
I'll play it now. I think it does get circled on the right hand side of the road as the drive is going on. It's not the woman, is it? No, it's a suit you make of this. The white thing on the right hand side. A pair of legs.
00:56:05
Speaker
That appears to be a small mammal. It looks like somebody's waist, bottom, knees and legs. Somebody's very small, though. Oh, someone's cutting half, like, yeah, waist. Yeah, I saw that on the N62. Did you? I did, honestly. Running across in front of me. I've never been so shocked in my entire life. It looks so similar.
00:56:32
Speaker
But obviously, where is this? Is it in America? Arizona. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. As it comes up, it's just like it's not there as it comes up, but then it's there as it dries past it. Yeah. I'll pause it again.
00:56:55
Speaker
And it's like it's got one shoe or something. Or is that potentially as the light interacts with it? That's when you can see it more. You know what I mean? Because you say it's the hair. But I think it's as the as the headlights catch it more is because you can see it from. Can you go back a little tiny bit more? Sorry, this is thrilling audio for a one. So you can't see it here. Try and go one. Oh, you can see a blob.
00:57:22
Speaker
Yeah, you can just about make out and I think it's as the light hits it but it is very weird that it looks like a small person's legs. Yeah. That is amazing. Yeah, I was once driving back from Halifax to Hull very late at night, midnight on a Sunday, completely
00:57:45
Speaker
completely quiet M62 except for me. And a pair of legs ran across the road in front of my car. And of course, you know, I didn't have a camera or anything, but it woke me up, I'll tell you that.
00:58:02
Speaker
It makes you wonder, is that someone that got caught in half in an accident, like half of its remains? And yeah, it's a weird... Yeah. Or is there just some reason why only half of it shows? I don't know. Hopefully it's not too much an inconvenience where ghosts can float, though, because at least it's... At least top half your body's not going to be like, oh, where's my fucking legs gone? Like, you asked ghosts on BBC.
00:58:31
Speaker
Oh my god, nobody can watch that on BBC. It's hilarious. I think I've seen it. They'll spend a lot of the time stood in the vestibule arguing with each other, don't they? I love that this podcast always devolves into all three of us watching totally different media around the paranormal and going, have you not seen it? What are you on about? One of the ghosts, he lost his head, got to be headed in like 18, whatever.
00:58:57
Speaker
He always loses his head. He's like, come find me. I don't direct them to where his head is. Put his head back with his body and stuff. Reminds me of Rent a Ghost. I used to watch that as a kid.
00:59:11
Speaker
Have you heard of that? No. Oh my goodness. I can't believe you haven't seen that. Mind you, you would have been about minus 10 probably when I was watching it. At least. No, it was really funny. Similar sort of thing. But a kids program. But they're quite good ghostly graphics for those days actually. We are much about to see like what you saw half at the bottom half of her body. This is so peculiar.
00:59:41
Speaker
It is. It is really weird. So, yeah. Anything else to add? Can I just do a bit of plugging? For my podcast yesterday, I spoke to a really, really interesting man. He's called John Russell and he's American. He's a psychic. What? What's up, John? With a motorbike.
01:00:10
Speaker
Yes, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Have you spoken to him? Yeah, a couple of, a while ago. Yeah, he goes across America. Yeah. And he's bike investigating. Yeah. Weird stuff. So interesting, really interesting guy. And so that will be out on Paranormal or What podcast on Thursday available on things like Spotify, Apple, Castbox, Podbean, and all good podcasting platforms.
01:00:38
Speaker
Make sure you check that out. Mike. My Haunted Hotel episode out this Sunday on the Paramount Channel at Paramount on YouTube. Everything we've spoken about in this plus some stuff we didn't speak about, i.e. kind of when I went into Room 5 by myself. Definitely check it out. Subscribe. Do all the good shit. Thank you. Ooh. So, so. Who's that go? Can you do that again? I dropped my phone. Sorry. If you pay me extra, though, I'll claim it's paranormal. That's fine.
01:01:10
Speaker
Yeah, and for me to the Power Normal, we are back after the two month break. So there will be more episodes coming up this weekend and going into next week, so keep tuned. Make sure you check out Kayla at the Power Normal or What podcast and Power Mike on YouTube. Have a good evening everybody. Mike, have a great time in Portugal. Thank you.
01:01:38
Speaker
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