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DJT Keeps Hurting My Feelings
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On this week's show, Lance expresses concerns about the state of our country and Matt tells him to take up rock climbing.
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Contemplating a Move to Costa Rica
00:00:14
Speaker
Back in Costa Rica, huh? Yeah, buddy. Got here late Tuesday night. Denver to O'Hare, Chicago. Chicago to San Jose. Chepe.
00:00:26
Speaker
And now I'm just looking for rental properties for you and your family. Now that we confirmed that you guys are all in on Costa Rica one day after your son's graduation.
00:00:38
Speaker
Nah. You said the roads are bad, so i'm not coming.
Comparing Infrastructure: US vs Costa Rica
00:00:41
Speaker
Everything behind Lance right now has a for sale sign on it. Everything. Even his underwear. He's ditching every fucking thing and and dropping out, dude.
00:00:51
Speaker
Yeah, the road, dude, I was, I was like, Denver is even like, I would say, you know, Denver's a newer city. So I obviously I've been going to St. louis Louis a lot and I'm like, I don't St. Louis has some old, it's like a little older. And so i even roads and shit, I don't, it's definitely different, different, higher quality than what's going on here. But like Denver, everything feels so new and fresh, especially out where my parents live.
00:01:12
Speaker
It's kind of lame. But also like, I'm just rolling around Denver always on C470, 85, 90 miles an hour, like half asleep. So I was driving like that here when I got off the plane and like within two seconds, I was like, oh shit, I'm going to kill myself. I'm going that fast, like running the,
00:01:27
Speaker
fucking potholes that you can fit your car in and stuff. ah You got it you gotta to be a little more careful. Tighter streets, patchwork. Yeah, it it must be harder to keep the roads nice with all that rain.
00:01:42
Speaker
Rain and then the attitude to like get do as little possible to get something done. So the roads will be made like an inch of asphalt. so But yeah, you have that.
00:01:54
Speaker
You definitely have the weather effects, the amount of rain and stuff. but And then just not just not as much money, you know? Not as much money going around. But, ah yeah. but But in some ways, it's very comforting to be here.
Cultural Shocks and Lifestyle Pace
00:02:07
Speaker
I just – I don't know why. For some reason, that trip to Denver that I just took was – like when I came back here, I was like – A, I'm like culturally shocked. I'm like, oh, yeah, it is still different. When I'm down here, I'm always like – fucking US. Everything's like the US. everybody want like Everyone's working a lot. There's all these chains here, all this bullshit. But this trip, for some reason, when I came back here, I was like, oh, fuck.
00:02:28
Speaker
This is a different country in so many different ways. It sounds like in good ways, though. Well, yeah, not the roads. but I mean, i don't know how to explain it. like Sometimes bad things are a good thing.
00:02:40
Speaker
i don't know. like It all gets wrapped up into a little bit of the pace of life. you know like You can't get too much accomplished because there's always some fucked up shit going on. Sounds like a negative, but it's also maybe a reason why people's...
00:02:54
Speaker
Even with the with the Western American style lifestyle coming down here, there's still like a little more, what do you call it? Tranquility? Like a little less little less race for the next thing here, something like that, which is cool.
00:03:09
Speaker
If you guys came down here, you probably wouldn't be living where I'm living. You'd be out in place where things are super chill. Yeah, I wouldn't live there. Hell hole, San Jose. But it's like when you were you guys checked, you were down in Salida, did you feel like the pace was like, I mean, anywhere, like I was in Bale for a few days.
00:03:26
Speaker
if The pace is nice there, you know? Like when you're in Salida, do you feel a different pace of life? Well, it was an interesting contrast because when at the time we were in the foothills in the middle of nowhere.
00:03:37
Speaker
So in the town there, felt like we were cultured. But yeah, relative to where we are now, it probably feel pretty good. Yeah.
00:03:49
Speaker
There's also something about, um you know, just when you're out of your own place. Like if you if you fucking came to St. Louis, like if you got you guys are like, we're getting a vacation home in St. Louis. Like just that you're not in your everyday life, it feels it feels everything just feels like a little newer and cooler and chiller.
00:04:07
Speaker
So I think instead of coming down here with us, you should think about vacationing in St. Louis, dude. I might come out in April. and I'm not talking about come out, dude. I'm talking about like a permanent move, a vacation home or like in the suburbs of St. Louis.
00:04:22
Speaker
pitch that Pitch that to the boss, dude.
Technical Challenges in Communication
00:04:27
Speaker
To your wife. You seem on edge, dude. Is the world getting to you? Or is it me leaving?
00:04:33
Speaker
Have you recovered yet? Oh, there's that, but then there's audio on this. Like I'm just constantly watching that, getting pissed. But I'm going to let it go. Do you think it's... ah Is it bad connection? or is it just because you're getting you're screaming? Because I feel like the connection sucks.
00:04:51
Speaker
Yeah, the connection's a little off. Could be a lot of things, dude. But I don't know. This randomly that one time. But we'll deal with it, man. No, the world is... ah I just don't know anyone besides you.
00:05:03
Speaker
Like, you're the only one that isn't... You're the only one that it isn't A, paying attention all this, and B, going... What the fuck? Do I need to get guns?
00:05:16
Speaker
Now, I'm not hanging around people in St. Louis, so I don't know what's going on there. But in Colorado, guy, shit's real. Well, I got both in St. Louis. I mean, i don't know about go out and get guns, but I got people that were just
US Societal and Political Concerns
00:05:29
Speaker
like, it's insane what's going on.
00:05:31
Speaker
I definitely had that. Through the people, I would have expected it, though. You know, from the people I would have expected. Yeah.
00:05:41
Speaker
But... I also feel like nobody ever goes there. nobody Everyone there is from there, and like things don't change that much. or like Denver is a pretty transient town, and there's all these people coming and going, and like some of the shit going on might be... Even even with illegal aliens, Denver is like a hub, what we what we used to call illegal aliens. so Maybe these issues are are closer to home in Denver, because you have such a big Hispanic population, legal and illegal, and then legal people probably have... you know families that are that are trying to get here and stuff like that. So it's probably, I don't know if you feel like, I didn't mean, I didn't feel when I was there, but you feel like it was it's like in your backyard there?
00:06:21
Speaker
ah No, I haven't seen any ICE people. It's just more of, for those paying attention, you see this unraveling of the country's ideals and and globally and then also domestically. And you're just like, eh, do I do anything about that? Should I should i make take some action of some sort? and it just... I think you should.
00:06:42
Speaker
It's obviously bothering you. Although when i when I'm there with you in person, you're not ah you're not like a fucking freaking or anything. But like, maybe you should, like, what does that look like? ah let's Let's get into this today. Instead of talking about how the world sucks, what would action look like for you? And even me, since you're since you're disappointed in my my level of of, what is it, apathy? Apathy.
00:07:05
Speaker
what's What's action look like? If you go out and protests, I mean, we talked about a few weeks ago, what would you do? Would you write your congressman? What should anyone do? You you mentioned before the show, buy buy guns to protect yourself.
00:07:17
Speaker
I guess the first thing I have done, and and I know other people have done this as well, is go back and read history and familiarize yourself with the course of events and significant times.
00:07:29
Speaker
give me Give me an example. or Is there any time in history that you can point to and go, oh, this is starting to remind me of? i think World War one World War II, all the significant events is probably what you look to when you start to see.
00:07:45
Speaker
Give me a little Berlin, 1935. You look at Kent State and other things in the 60s and you just you start to, or Vietnam, or very significant events in our past and you kind of go, how did we get there?
00:07:58
Speaker
Or you look at other countries, that had government coups and different strange things going on. That's not to suggest all those things are going to happen to us, but you do start to feel, if you go look at that, that the seeds are being planted for more chaos, for more world-level war and conflict.
00:08:18
Speaker
I don't know how debatable that is. you know, there are just certain actions that are being taken that to appear to like make things more unstable. And we don't know what the future is going to hold. So that's why taking action specific to that is tough. Like if I were in Minneapolis, of course I'd be protesting, but you know, nothing like that's really going on right now here.
00:08:37
Speaker
As far as my action, do you think we're you're at a point where if you were in my shoes, you'd be like, try to stay out of the U.S. as much as possible? No, I don't think you have a safety concern. and I think you just come and build that business.
00:08:48
Speaker
Maybe lay off the tan and lay off the Spanish a little bit. maybe not bring your kids. It is not out of the realm of reasonable thinking to think that if you were walking with your kids that they might be harassed.
00:09:04
Speaker
Could be. But do you think that's because my kids are my Latino? Do you feel like you're kid like any anyone anywhere? I doubt your Viking-ass looking kids are going to get pulled over for looking Latino, but ah yeah yeah they're they're very blonde.
00:09:22
Speaker
Now, and there's video evidence of this happening everywhere, so I'm not just talking like a batshit liberal. Like, yeah, they're they're coming after people with brown skin, people with brown skin, people with accents.
00:09:36
Speaker
I mean, it's just straightforward. um I just love being put in that group. like Essentially, I'm a minority. My family is so... You're not. You might have to show your papers by virtue of trafficking a couple brown kids.
00:09:50
Speaker
Sophia's about and why it is a um ah as white as an Olympic speed skater.
00:09:58
Speaker
Well... I don't know, dude. You're not going to get me. You're not going to get me. but have have you looked at the... No, seriously, though. You probably haven't. Have you looked at the videos in Minneapolis of flash bombs going off, pepper spray, and i'm like like helicopters, and like dudes like descending all over, body slamming people? I mean, it's third it looks like a third world country.
00:10:20
Speaker
Like, what are they doing? do do is that Part of you just go, this is good. Like, it's got to boil over to the point of, like, if you put enough meathead, you know, ESA agents and ah in a tough situation, it's been it's been proven over and over again that people will act, if they feel like
Unrest in Minneapolis and Historical Parallels
00:10:38
Speaker
stressed or weird and they're not trained, you know, or they're trained one way, they're going to act irrationally.
00:10:43
Speaker
Even if there might be like good people like, so it's probably going to boil over just by the fact that that's what people do if they feel like they're in a tough situation. so But do you think that might be good just because someone like me is like, whatever, there's nothing going on. and And then the other people are like, no, this is literally like, I don't know, Nazi Germany, people people being rounded up.
00:11:02
Speaker
For no reason. Like you think some of this might shed light where people go, oh, we should probably at least vote the other way. Next, next midterm election. Like ah my sister-in-law in Colorado is like, yeah, therere this regime is fucked because they're going to lose all the midterm elections.
00:11:17
Speaker
Like you what's your positive on this, bro? Well, mate yes, I think you could probably congratulate the people for standing up and protesting and fighting back against this type of action.
00:11:31
Speaker
It's third world type action. Like military in the streets, they want escalation. the administration appears to want escalation just by their words and that the actions of sending in thousands of more troops into that city. I mean, it's just obvious.
00:11:45
Speaker
So like, is it, you know, you still got people who think it's a Minneapolis problem. And there these are the right wingers. Many of them probably sit somewhere in Missouri.
00:11:56
Speaker
Until it comes to your town or until the tyranny touches you, you can ignore it. Or if it's so widespread that you're just like, damn, what's what's happening in our country?
00:12:09
Speaker
What do you think is more alarming? The um the attack on that and the streets or this like the Fed chairman's under investigation like because he doesn't do what Trump says? like that That's kind of scary to me. It's almost more scary.
00:12:23
Speaker
on a he From a humanity perspective, the attacks in the streets, with violence, like, shit should pull at us. But, like, yes, we are all driven by our, in this country, we're all obsessed with our economic fortunes.
00:12:39
Speaker
Because it's really the only way to survive in America. I'm not saying to tie the money, but because it's, like, You're not, you know, the foundation of our democracy is like the the right to disagree or have a different viewpoint or opinion. And the if the idea is like anyone who fought who disagrees is the justice departments coming, knocking on their door, then you have like a real like authoritarian regime, basically.
00:13:04
Speaker
But that's what's been happening. Right. um And that one's even scarier to me because. that That one just has broader implications for the quality of this country for more people.
00:13:16
Speaker
And then I think also the thing that many people are worried about who study geopolitics, the Greenland thing has some really significant implications. Can you give me a 30 second summary on Greenland?
00:13:30
Speaker
Like, is that an invasion? Is there a negotiation? Is it like what what might happen there? Because I have no idea. Trump says he wants to own it for psychological reasons. It just makes him feel good to own things.
00:13:43
Speaker
And I'm not mischaracterizing it one bit. But there's this idea that they need it for national security, even though there's an agreement since 1951 that the Dutch will allow the US to use it for any capacity for national security, essentially.
00:14:02
Speaker
So there's a ton of freedom for them to use
Geopolitical Tensions and US Foreign Policy
00:14:05
Speaker
Greenland for bases and ah military operations. And they're an ally and have been an ally and have fought on behalf of the U.S.'s causes in Iraq and Afghanistan and lost many troops fighting alongside of us. But we're going to take Greenland from them.
00:14:21
Speaker
And we haven't ruled out military force. there's There's no way to buy it because they're not they're not interested in selling it. ah so So that conflict right there, what happens?
00:14:32
Speaker
First off, today, Europe has brought troops to Greenland to show that they, i think they say, to show that they're willing to beef up security in that region.
00:14:42
Speaker
But it's also to show, if you come and try to take over this country, like, yeah, we're going to have German troops, Swedish troops, and Dutch troops there to at least confront the situation.
00:14:54
Speaker
But imagine... Stealing a property from a an ally. Just complete imperialism. Then the dominoes fall, Matt. Russia comes after Europe, moves beyond Ukraine.
00:15:08
Speaker
So all that shit's happening. ah But, you know, it's only three more years. So it's fine.
00:15:20
Speaker
it's what you know you would think though like if there was this was not a popular uh you know it's not popular they like some of these actions are not popular with the general population that like a midterm election or something might might show the people in power like uh like people don't like that you should stop doing it but i don't get the idea that like that would that would do anything I hear people, though, that are like, well, yeah, tariffs are fine, all that shit. But but the Greenland thing seems weird. I wonder if there's people, even like right-wing America, if they're like, yeah, it makes sense. We should just start taking over countries and shit.
00:15:57
Speaker
they They just go with Trump no matter what. I mean, it's the party of Trump. There is no other principles anymore. And the same with ah to the vast majority of Republican congressmen and Republican senators. They just go with him no matter what.
00:16:10
Speaker
No matter how absurd it is, no matter how ridiculous. Now this Fed investigation caused a little more consternation, but everything else is game. Everything else seems to be their game for.
00:16:22
Speaker
so let's go back Let's go back to your actions. Is this was this what, you know, this stuff is what kind of gets you guys thinking, ah I need to get out of the country or is more as like where you are in your life? No, I don't think it has to do with like leaving or escaping and protecting myself.
00:16:38
Speaker
It just has to do with, I guess, acknowledging that you're in a significant time in history, one that could change everybody's lives. I don't think anybody knows where this goes, where this type of disruption takes the U.S. For a long time, we just took for granted that we can just be comfortable and we'll just...
00:16:58
Speaker
find our jobs, open our business, make our money, invest, and live out the American dream without any sort of major obstacles. And I think that's probably not the case.
00:17:10
Speaker
when When somebody like that gets elected and and then ignores the rule of law and then is driven by his own narcissistic desire to have historical legacy. The people that are close to you that you have a difference in opinion of, have you had any, or you just stay away from it? You have any conversations that like, Greenland makes sense.
00:17:27
Speaker
Or I understand why they're attacking the millions in the streets of Minneapolis. Are people, yeah you know, I just, I just wonder if people, yeah, have people found a way to justify it?
00:17:40
Speaker
Of course they have, i mean, because they're inundated with Fox News and other places. and And it all starts to sound like I'm from team A and they're team B and I want to win. But like, all I'm looking for is just a certain level of logic.
Narrative Control in Trump's Administration
00:17:53
Speaker
And ah no, there's no ability to have a conversation, a logical conversation, because they're just living and in an alternative world. So like if Trump says, Oh, the Dutch, they couldn't provide any security and help the Greenlanders. They're so weak and pathetic.
00:18:09
Speaker
That's just what people will parrot. So I don't know how you deal with that. I don't know what action there is to take. Like he he literally changed the website to say that the the fucking January 6th was a day of like love and peace.
00:18:20
Speaker
When we all saw videos of people rampaging the capital. And people think that that was a day of love and peace. And you pardon every one of those people who attacked the Capitol and also police officers and yeah, no big deal.
00:18:34
Speaker
No big deal. He's a normal guy. He'll adjust if the people get mad. No. So it's different. And I just think a lot of people either don't want to acknowledge it's different or then they live so far in the world of that shit, Trumpism, that they just, no matter what, I don't know what would knock them off that Trump train.
00:18:53
Speaker
Probably nothing. So as a toy question questiontion about taking action, I'm just trying to understand it is probably all I can think to do right now. And it's just a growing level of concern.
00:19:06
Speaker
are Like, are we the good guys anymore? The U.S. doesn't appear to be. That's concerning. Oh, that's sad. Little eight-year-old Matt had a lot of faith that we were always the good guys. Pledge of allegiance. Yeah.
00:19:22
Speaker
Well, that that's why the Greenland thing is kind of weird, and the Fed for that matter. I mean, but, you know, the Fed thing, you're not going to get much sympathy from a lot of America. Like, they probably think that the Fed are bunch of white assholes controlling money and all this shit, so they're like, fuck that guy, you know.
00:19:38
Speaker
But... ah and And then you look at Venezuela and then you could go, well, that guy is a dictator piece of shit. and then But then you're like, Greenland? that hard It's hard to find the the negative in that one where you're like, oh, yeah, but fucking Greenland had it coming, huh?
00:19:53
Speaker
With their 40,000 people. Oh, arrogant. Yeah. You're like, I expected him to go and shoot protesters, dude. I expected him to do that. That's okay.
00:20:04
Speaker
But Greenland? I draw the line. yeah but that's The protest the thing is not is not new in our country. there's Like you said, there's but Kent State. There's always there's a you know l LA riots. like There's been abuse of authority or abuse of power that that that gets like heated and then it comes out. Or or you know police brutality. like All that stuff is not necessarily new to the US.
00:20:30
Speaker
Sure. Attacking or like just just I mean, maybe i'm being naive. maybe Maybe it's not new. But like just these things with like countries and making decisions like that, or even like really really going after with the Justice Department any political adversary, that seems like unique now to this ah to this, what do you call it?
US Global Standing and Renewable Energy
00:20:52
Speaker
keep calling it regime, but what's it? Administration.
00:20:54
Speaker
and Administration, yeah. yeah that That seems like kind of unique to Trump where he's like, I'm going to go on the offensive all the time. Oh, for sure. know For sure.
00:21:06
Speaker
So that's that's a little weird. Yeah. Yeah. the I mean, the rioting, pro-sitting shit's terrible, but it's also like, yeah, well, that's what happens in the U.S. Yeah, you make fun of the country, and I think it's just getting really hard to to take pride in anything happening in this country, whether it's the excessive economics or the excessive consumption, rather.
00:21:28
Speaker
Now with sort of our behavior on the world stage and then the capitulation of business leaders and of institutions to a total dipshit. And it's all sort of like, this place is kind of, it's it's it feels like a crumbling empire.
00:21:45
Speaker
And you look at China's investing in all this renewable energy and they're like... On scale partnering more across the world to create stronger alliances while the U.S. destroys them and and is still jerking their cock over oil.
00:22:01
Speaker
Like nobody gives a fuck about oil. over the next 30 years. Like, yeah, we'll still need some of it, but like, come on, we're talking nuclear, we're talking renewable. Like, what the fuck?
00:22:13
Speaker
were we' we We're just sort of becoming that dumb, dying corporation that can't see that it's a it's going to fade. United States a Sears and Robot Company, bro. Yeah.
00:22:27
Speaker
Pretty much. Pretty much. And there's no action to take. It's because you because you can't say that for sure, but it does feel that way. Like, oh, my God. and and Because imagine if a liberal was doing this stuff in the office.
00:22:41
Speaker
Oh, my God. These crazy crackers in the South would be picking up their ARs, running around terrorizing motherfuckers. We're in a strange, strange place. that it I'm not going to say it consumes me. It just is...
00:22:55
Speaker
It's interesting and concerning. Yeah, it's weird. I mean, it's all right there for you guys. It's all right there. And it doesn't have to be this way. You got everything's, everything's great up there.
00:23:06
Speaker
It's like fucking know everyone needs to stop. It's just creating the idea that there's issues and then actually making the issues happen. That's what seems like it's happening. So, well, now there is actually issues because they were created.
00:23:20
Speaker
It's just weird. I mean, I don't know. I keep on like a broken record, but it just its just seemed like a whining about shit up there, which which this is where it all, you know, this is what happens. I get that. this is what But it's just like, yeah, everything's fine. Fucking everything's right there for you.
00:23:36
Speaker
Even if you hit rock bottom in the U.S., it's it's easier to get back on your feet. You're afraid all that's going to be gone. It doesn't have to be. Am i afraid of that?
00:23:48
Speaker
I think, yeah. I mean, I think you think that's, besides maybe World War, that's the culmination of all these actions is like America just is not the the place, it's not the place it used to be. I mean, that's definitely what I heard when I was there from so certain people that was talking to that were like life-changing.
00:24:04
Speaker
like Like, it's just not easy. Like, for example, nobody in their 20s can buy a house. Shit like that. Like, it's just like life there. It's not quite as simple as maybe, you know, as what what it was we were growing up. where It's like, yeah if you do something, you do anything, you can you can kind of make it, pull yourself up.
00:24:22
Speaker
The distance between the two... factions of the country in terms of their thinking is so dramatic. and And you used to be able to say, well, people all want the same things.
00:24:35
Speaker
I just don't know you can say that anymore. I wish I could meet a real, like a hardcore supporter. I would like to meet one. I know somebody who might be, but I'm not 100% sure. but i But I've never actually met someone that's just like, that's great. This is great. And I understand this. Like, I haven't run into that person yet.
00:24:54
Speaker
At least not like... i mean I mean, when I'm in Missouri, I'm you know i'm working, so I'm not like ah trying to bring this shit up, like if I'm selling tables and shit. But ah I just have it don't have access to that wildly right supporter.
00:25:10
Speaker
Sorry. But i would like to i I would like to meet maybe not someone who's like, well, you're getting like that weird shit, but somebody... i would like I wish I could meet someone who's like educated, who seems smart, intelligent, educated about it, and is a Trump supporter or like this administration supporter, and they they go, this is why this all makes sense.
00:25:35
Speaker
You think that person exists? Or you think it's even possible? I think the reasonable MAGA person maybe wouldn't say everything makes sense at this point. They might have thought that the first term, everything made sense.
00:25:47
Speaker
But I think what you'd find from a reasonable and this, and again, let me put an air quotes, a reasonable MAGA supporter, would still be the election was stolen. So that that that would be in their heads still.
00:26:00
Speaker
They would still have in their heads that Antifa is this huge terrorist threat across the nation. They would have that kind of thing in their head. They would say that he's a so he's strong and he's he's going to get things done with our our enemies because he's strong. And and that kind of stuff.
00:26:20
Speaker
sticks in their mind and then you yeah there's also that uh like well he's not trying to make friends we're not here to make friends we're here to make our country better so anything he does you kind of tuck into that not trying to make friends not trying to make friends i'm a fucking piece of shit because i'm not trying to make friends come on let's get it yeah so you're saying it it doesn't exist What doesn't exist?
00:26:45
Speaker
wow The super educated person that can justify all actions? No, I don't think that that person exists unless they're like a podcast host who's trying to be more extreme to get listeners. Do you think there's any truth that all this shit, they just keep rolling out news cycles to avoid some other news cycle like Epstein or...
00:27:04
Speaker
like no one's talking about at the Epstein files right now. Cause there's, there's four crazy fucking things going on right now with Minneapolis, with the fed, with Venezuela, Greenland, like you, you buying any of that? This is all like just throwing, like putting shit out there to avoid talking about some other shit.
00:27:24
Speaker
And I mean, it could even be not, maybe not absolutely mc fine. Like, No one's talking about Venezuela because now we're talking about Greenland. So now they're sending mercenaries in there to go fucking kill people and get oil. Like, you know, it's hard to take it all in. Maybe that's where they want it.
00:27:38
Speaker
Yeah, I do. I think that's their primary strategy. Do a bunch of crazy stuff, like just completely cloud the public's sensibilities. We'll just cloud their senses, make it very hard to figure out what the hell's happening, make them give up.
00:27:51
Speaker
And so there's a lot about that. That's been widely documented as a strategy from their side. So yeah, I think part of it's that, but like how much escalation- They're not hiding it? and They're like, you're saying they're not hiding it? Or that's like- Not at all.
00:28:07
Speaker
No, like sometimes you'll hear comparisons to Nixon, but Nixon was an intelligent person that was sort of trying to subvert ah behind the scenes, like certain trends. And he had a respect for history and didn't want to like- be be known as a complete piece of shit trump is no shame dude it is a fucking just love scandal he loves it and he'll say i mean he says some of the most crazy shit you could ever imagine like just like when he's walking through the like a united auto work workers plant and um i think i don't forget it was for a ford plant and he's flipping a guy off who was echoing him like some people love that they think it's the greatest thing ever
00:28:50
Speaker
yeah i i personally i personally think it's weak Hey, they love that shit. They love the... not something that we've seen. like Yeah.
00:29:01
Speaker
They love that he puts out videos to just trash liberals. They love it, dude. It's fucking amazing. It just ends up, though, over time, it will it will just increase the divide. Because what people are willing to believe and do to go along with this guy...
00:29:17
Speaker
It's quite astonishing. I think this is your plan of action. You're going to be like, there's no way going to do that. but So last night I i watched on Netflix. there's I can't remember exactly what called, but it's about two free...
00:29:31
Speaker
like mountain climbers, like free solo climbers, and inevitably one of them ends in death, right? But it's fucking amazing. There's actually that, I can't remember his name, the guy's like, hes he's free soloing the the largest tower in Shanghai or somewhere, Taiwan? I would think it's Taiwan.
00:29:48
Speaker
I took my kid to a climbing gym and we were dealing with those Colorado type people. It was pretty funny. But so the option, I think, for a lot of people is just get so deep into something else like that.
00:30:00
Speaker
Rock climbing. ah That's that might be your act. Your action is to just go deep in another direction. i mean, you're not going to you're probably not going to stop it. You could go to a few protests or whatever and voice your opinion, but write your congressman.
00:30:15
Speaker
there's not there's not much you can do so you I think you need to get deep into something else which comes back to like you have the time to either get lost in this or do something else yeah no I think actually I take it as just this personal responsibility with kids in the country to try to understand what's going on but when I talk dude I'm not like sitting here going like in in a panic like freaking out fucking I'm fucking gonna a gun we're here trying to produce content right that's what's going on here well no I do wonder though, at what point do though does that mindset, that comfort comfortable mindset really get shattered? Like it's it's curious to me to like understand history.
00:30:56
Speaker
Would you have been one of the Germans that would have housed Jews in their attic or their basement? Or would you have been like just the fuck it? You know, it's like a nobody knows.
00:31:07
Speaker
Most of us probably all would you think we would, but nobody would, dude. Nobody would. Most people wouldn't. Right. And so am I, am I going to be, it just, it's just a curious intellectual exercise for now, but will I be somebody as they come and terrorize our city and outright shoot protesters that gets in the street and continues to protest, uh, like they're doing in Iran? I mean, they've killed thousands of people out there now.
00:31:32
Speaker
the government so it's like a it's like i have this responsibility to try to understand what would i do with my kids to protect them what if there's a draft all these things that were inconceivable and not on the table for me 15 years ago they all seem more like real you know i could see it as a time where we're like bringing brown skin immigrants into our basement dude but not there yet
00:32:01
Speaker
No, not yet. But you see the the same seeds that were planted throughout history and cause great chaos are being planted right now. that I would have loved it when I visited your house the other night and you're like, there's Javier. Jesus, he's got here from Guadalajara. He makes good walk.
00:32:23
Speaker
Yeah. He's just working. fucking You got him a pair of Uggs. He's just walking around the house all lazy. He immediately becomes Americanized. He's like, I like Tai Chi lattes.
00:32:36
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well Yeah. Your humor won't get us through, by the way. Your humor won't do fucking shit when it all goes down. So learn a new skill, bro. Maybe maybe learn a fucking basket weave so we can carry our guns.
00:32:55
Speaker
I don't know, dude. I hope you're wrong. um but i But I think if it if it if it you're close to right... Unfortunately, it's going to have to, some dramatics probably going to to happen to like, for anyone to really tune in, to plug in.
00:33:10
Speaker
And maybe it's, maybe it's already happening. I get your point. There's people in the streets being, whatever so maybe that's like what, what really needs to happen to kind of push things in the right direction. Do you think now looking back, what's my alarmist nature?
00:33:25
Speaker
would you Would you contend that it was semi-warranted pre-Trump's 47th presidential inauguration? You're looking for like, I told you so?
00:33:37
Speaker
I mean, does it feel for you like that there was some alignment with that thinking at this point, or you're still sort of like, eh, wait and see? I'm just curious. I'm not trying to like- You want to try to blow it off?
00:33:49
Speaker
I think what you're getting is exactly, yeah, I mean, I think you're getting exactly what you what somebody who doesn't like Trump would fear because you have a second term president who can kind of do whatever the fuck he wants and then you have a guy you already kind of knew that, like he's doing everything that you knew he was going to do, just just like sort of pumping it up a notch. So I think, yeah, you were right.
00:34:11
Speaker
But you knew if he got elected that it would look like this. Maybe not the great I didn't know. I mean, I feared. But you knew he'd be, he's, ah he already had a tendency to kind of act, you know, in a good or bad way. Like you said, some people think it's great. Like to kind of act freely and and shoot from the hip.
00:34:27
Speaker
You know, that was ah like, he's, that's what he did and and operate outside of the normal, normal playing field of Washington. And then you go, well, if that's the case already, then like anything's possible.
00:34:39
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So anything's possible. That's what's happening.
00:34:45
Speaker
Well said. if he If he goes after Greenland militarily, that's going to be the next set of, I don't know, that's going to be the next level of chaos.
00:34:59
Speaker
Do you hope for it? like not But like do you hope he does something that wakes up the fucking world? and Not the world. The world already knows. But like the the people that might be like, okay, this is fucking ridiculous. like I've seen it happen. My parents, like I said.
00:35:14
Speaker
I've seen some people that were moderately, you know or they were Republican, but they they they supported maybe first 2016 just because he was a Republican. And then they're like, no, we can't do this anymore. I see it happening a little bit.
00:35:26
Speaker
i had this I think I had this conversation with you and your wife, but maybe it was at ah at my brother's place. But I do see some people that were like Republicans going, yeah, kind of separating themselves from him. Like, do you think it there needs to be a really something fucked up?
00:35:41
Speaker
I mean, you could say it already happened, Venezuela, right? But Venezuela, people are going to look at the dictator. yeah The best we can hope for is that the economy tanks. I know that doesn't sound like a friendly thing to say to somebody starting a business, but that's the best. I'm always talking about that.
00:35:59
Speaker
Because the other the other option is just military chaos throughout the world, and that just seems too risky. No.
00:36:10
Speaker
It just seems too risky, and maybe it doesn't transpire in then in his term, but it certainly creates different dynamics over the long term. I think something like a massive labor shortage or something like that might be cool.
00:36:27
Speaker
like Or I don't know if it'll happen, but du will prices go you know get get crazy because ah because of the ratcheting down on what seems to be our labor force?
00:36:39
Speaker
Stuff like that. like people Oh, for like construction prices are through the roof because you can't find a roofer and all that. yeah Yeah. Yeah, because I think stuff has to happen on the homeland because I don't think most Americans give a fuck if we raid in Venezuela. They probably think of it as some shithole that they never learned about anyways.
00:36:57
Speaker
Like, you know, so they that might not be enough for them. Greenland is almost silly you know when you think about it. You're like, why why Greenland? like No one lives there. like So people will just be like, oh, that's weird.
00:37:08
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But like if people start to go, what the fuck? like you know like but If it really affects them, shopping and all the shit that people are into up there, then that that might be that might be bad for for the administration.
00:37:25
Speaker
Agree. Yeah. Do you think a lot of people are I mean, I saw, I did see my mom like, what the fuck with this thing in Minnesota? But like, do you think a lot of people are like starting to go, wait, what are what are they doing?
00:37:36
Speaker
Are they like, that's great. These people are coming here taking our jobs and that's good. Round them up. Like, do you know anyone like that? I don't try not to talk to people that might have that point of view, even family members. But yeah, I have a an instinct that they that they believe that. I'm not sure what would shake them off.
00:37:55
Speaker
Again, the Trump train. I think then it goes into sort of crazy Christian beliefs that they think he's the path to ah to the rapture and their salvation. So then that gets so crazy. So I wouldn't ever try to have a ah rational conversation with them.
00:38:11
Speaker
i do I do think you should go to become a free solo or something maybe a little safer, use ropes. But like you should go get back into your in crazy hikes, even though they we're doing overnighters and shit. I think you should you need like distance cycling.
00:38:26
Speaker
You got to become one of those Colorado lunatics. I do do stuff like that, but it's just still unprecedented, so it's hard to pull away from it. from some of this when you have time because it's like, yeah, it's exceptional. It's impossible. But if you were free soloing every day, you'd be faced with your own mortality, which whichev inevitably will happen if you're free soloing.
00:38:47
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So then like, you're like, well, whatever, Trump can do whatever he wants. I'm going to die out here on this rock eventually.