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Glick's House of Music: Devil and the Daylong brothers
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Tonight Glick and Blaze team up to welcome Nicholas Kirk (writer/song composer Brendon McCormick (writer/director) and Brendan Bradley (actor aka Ish Daylong) from The Devil And the Daylong Brother movie.
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Introduction of the Day-long Brothers' Quest
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don't don't kill me We ain't murderers. Murderers kill because they want to. Me and my brothers are killers because we got to.
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We're the day-long brothers. We got three different mamas and the same daddy who sold our eternal souls to the devil before we was even born.
Confrontation with the Father
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And we're raining down holy terror to get them back.
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I know where your daddy is. I gotta be the one to take you to him. That's the deal. As far as I'm concerned, that is just another villain lined up at the gates of hell.
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He stole what's mine. I'm stealing it back. Ain't nobody down here but I stand. Which way? Any way you like it, baby.
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Chuck her in the trunk.
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Ow! The abholstery! Let's talk this out. Ain't no one gonna hurt you.
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I heard you was willing deals for souls. want to strike up one my own. A three for one. It pains me to say that these souls worthless. Just ask their father.
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Maybe we'll get our souls back. But the devil gets the last laugh. Only one solitary damned soul left to slaughter.
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Dear old dad.
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I know you's out there in the tall grass waiting for me. But there ain't no take backs with the devil.
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My three wise malingering men who give me gifts as fine as their field.
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There is a fire that shines the soul warmth and glow I will never know reckoning am reckoning
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I am reckoning
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No angel looming in empty tombs.
Themes of Reckoning and No Pardons
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There is reckoning. I am the reckoning.
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No pardons, reprieves or stains I am the reckoning I am the end I'm at the end, I am
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I am the rest
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I am
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the right one.
Livestream Incident at Glick's House of Music
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Can't hear you. like Hey. Glick's House of Music featuring movies. That's why we got my guy Blaze in the building from Nonsense and Chill. Hopefully guys are having a good time.
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We just got dropped from YouTube. Did we? It'll come back.
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Maybe it'll come back. If not, I'll re-up it. Uh-oh. We got permission, you sons of bitches. I'll fight with YouTube later. If I have to, I'll re-up it. But anywho, I'll deal with that once we get started. But welcome to Glicks House of Music right here on the Nonsensical Network. If you're not already, ahead and give us follow. We're everywhere.
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bio.link slash nonsensicalnetwork. All them links is there. oh geez, Louise. If it's not one thing, it's another thing.
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But um nonetheless, Tonight, as you guys seen at the very beginning, trailer for The Devil in the Day-Long Brothers.
Guests Nick Kirk and Brandon McCormick Discuss the Film
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We've talked about it a lot right here on this network.
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I introduced it to Blazing the Guys. They checked it out. They've been watching it. And I've introduced it to some of our our newer fans and some of our other fans, and they've checked it out and they're loving it. So I have a special tweet for y'all tonight.
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We have Nick Kirk in the building, who... Did all the music and was a co-writer, correct? Yes, that is correct.
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And we have Brandon McCormick as well, another writer and director. How's it going?
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Oh, we lost your mic, I think.
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I'm muted, but when I coughed earlier, yeah, no, I'm a professional. I've done this before. Yeah, we're excited we're excited to be here. It's awesome. And i'm I'm glad that we broke YouTube with whatever whatever the hell just happened to that. Apparently, we broke YouTube. And and YouTube and Facebook, if you got your ears on, before the show started, I did ask permission from all the guys to play the trailer and play the music.
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And these guys are responsible for it. So I think you can suck at YouTube. So yeah I will fidget with that here in just a second. I get my own stuff reported, so don't feel bad.
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Yeah, right? And last but not least, we have Brendan Bradley, a.k.a. e Ish Daylong, in the building.
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What is going on, you beautiful son of a bitch? How you doing
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doing? Right off the bat, guys, I do want to say... Great job. Fantastic movie. I fucking love it. I've probably watched it four or five times already.
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um YouTube's back. Thank you, guys. Thank you for all of you on YouTube that that that that waited it out. I knew we would be back. I knew they weren't goingnna they weren't going to spank me too hard.
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We've had that conversation. They know my they know my safe word. We're good. That's a different show. Yeah.
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um but but but um But yeah, love the soundtrack. you know I listened to it at the gym. I'll tell you what. just just you know i've watched the movie enough now to where i i'm like i'm i know where the so the song is and i'm a part of the movie so it's like that's awesome i'm getting amped up like i want to go i want to go punch a demon in the face yeah dude i mean you get the end of ties it by when the tempo goes up fast that's the last set you know blast yeah i think you want to charge hell with a water gun you know yeah yeah exactly
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now now i'm Now I'm pissed off at Keith Haradine, son of a bitch. ah ah thought but But no, Ben, you are muted, please.
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ah said you That's See, I did the same thing. i had ah i had a cough. i just i just want to oh I was getting excited with what the commenters are saying on that opening scene because I had that same feeling when I first saw that.
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Jordan, bummer you didn't make it, dude. But that scene, the intensity, the sexual intensity, the the baggage that those two people brought in that scene was just phenomenal.
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ah You get just dripped all over the place. Awesome. Yeah, the the young lady that played Frankie, she was amazing. ring Oh yeah, Rainy is but yeah those are incredible.
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The whole family. What's ironic about how hot that scene is, is that it was freezing. We shot that at like 3 in the morning. It was absolutely freezing. They had like jackets in between takes and stuff.
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they were Yeah, they were shivering. It was a power through it. They did it great. Yeah, it was awesome. so fun she had She had some intense chemistry with with ah Enoch and Abe. Super talented young lady.
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Very pretty. But damn, man. I really had to do her like that in the middle of the road. Yeah. yeah Yeah.
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yeah didn't feel bad. She shows up and she can sing and act and all that stuff. It's like, I don't feel bad killing her. She'll have plenty of other things to do. She'll be right.
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it was It was a very unexpected. it's It seemed like one of those characters you would at least see til all the way to the end and then die at the end for what her just deserves.
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But no, she got her just deserves the moment. She deserved them. Yeah, it was one of the things where like yeah we we didn't have plans on on killing her. And then just one day, i think one of us had the idea and it was like, oh, that's awful. we We shouldn't do that, which means we absolutely have to do that.
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So as soon as we felt like the repulsion of the idea, we were like, that's what we need we need to do. I think that's a theme of the whole film and the whole filmmaking process is what I really respect about Brandon and Nick is that they they never take the easy way out.
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They see like, where's the story going? And a lot of people might stretch it or milk a moment. And they're like, no, let's just get it over with. This is where this is headed. This is where the story, the train is on the tracks. And so then that gets you past the obvious thing.
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then you you wander into that gray space of just not knowing what's left. for any of these characters. And I think that that's when you get the most exciting storytelling in any narrative. It pushes the artistic boundaries.
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It kind of past the... It stretches them. we Sorry, Rhys. There's a lot of spoilers. One of the biggest spoilers in the whole movie. There's no way we're not going to spoil the whole thing because we're going to want to talk about like both it. even it yeah Even if we do spoil it, it's it's a fantastic watch.
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yeah whole try nothing It's not about that's it's this isn't Those are just fun. so Empire Strikes Back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the story. where your mind there It's the story. Gather the kids around. It's a good family movie to
Inspiration Behind the Music and Writing
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watch. Absolutely. i have explained to my movie audience that ah I have a two-week rule. If something's been out two weeks, you're spoiled after that point.
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Sorry for you. That's a good rule. I like that rule. ah think it's fair. Yeah. And in in the movie's everywhere. I just realized the other night that the movie's out on Tubi. Just today when I was downloading the trailer and stuff, I seen that the full movie's on YouTube. I was like, that oh, surprise to me. I don't know. Yeah, no, we had nothing to do with AX stuff. Yeah. Sorry, I put it on my personal channel. Is that a problem? Yeah, I'm not in charge of that, so.
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yeah i'm not in charge of that so ah i'm ah I'm definitely going mind as many people that can see it as possible. You can put it on whatever whatever place we'll play. Yeah, I'll put it up on Pirate Bay myself. Pirate Bay. That's a blast. LimeWire, maybe? Okay.
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yeah lime wire maybe okay Oh, man, you're really so nice. If you could just P2P it to me, that would be great, Brandon. Thanks so much. I'll P2P you for sure. Anytime. Your honor, he was joking. He didn't mean that any of those things he said. It's not a breach. Do i need to delete it?
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Do I need to delete this show from existence as soon as we're done tonight? Yeah. Let's see what happens. but For my own personal private collection. Yeah.
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You don't have a problem if someone steals your work. You have a problem if no one steals your work. You know what I mean? That's that's how I see it. Exactly. 100%. one hundred percent Y'all had brought up the idea of doing the opposite of what you had originally planned or, you know, just ah finding yourself in in in that spot of like, oh, shit, um the car, that 58 Imperial.
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um I overheard the story of how there was like only a few in existence, but you guys had already committed, like completely committed to this car. Instead of changing the car, you guys said, it, we're going to go with the challenge. You guys made it happen.
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um I looked this car up. I'm not a huge, huge car guy, a little bit of a car guy, more of a motorbike guy, but that is a very not easy car to find. No. Freaking kudos. Freaking kudos.
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It was just who is a beautiful. It was in great shape when we got it, too. We had to some makeup for it to make it look like an Alan car. That was bad. yeah i We decided to do that. and We bought it, and we just completely smashed it.
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It was awesome. yeah The whole crew got to take a swing, you know. I'm First day I've said everybody got a crowbar and we just went to town on this car. Oh, bad, but that's the cause to make movies.
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Yeah, for sure. There was really, once once we committed to that, you know, we just wanted something cool. And, you know, I think we told the story other day, but we Googled it and there was two for sale in America that we could find.
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One was like an upstate New York in the middle nowhere. And it was like twice our budget. And it was not even in as good a shape as the grace we found. And the other one that we ended up using was literally 40 minutes from our office.
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and So we just drove down there and drove it off the off the place. it was yeah It was one of the most fortuitous things that I've ever been a part of, for sure. But then that was it. It was downhill from there. It was awful the whole time.
Significance of the Movie's Car
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Yeah, yeah. It was like a nightmare. Yeah, that car did not run at all.
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But getting it was was a miracle. then just Then it was a curse the rest the time. Yep. That was the one good luck we got. We spent all the good luck in the middle of every single take that we did.
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yeah That car oozed character and it added like prop wise. It added that dimension. Yeah, we probably, it was the it was the it was a fourth brother, you know? It was like, it was the it was a character in and of itself, you know? So we have the biggest diva I've ever worked with.
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Yeah, it's okay to be part of the story. You saying that, and I know glix Glick is gli's familiar with the show. You guys are probably too. I'm going bring up the show Supernatural.
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You guys are probably, I heard it. But that car, the car in that show was like, quote unquote, the third brother. Like it was. Right. Yeah. I think that, ah I think that element, that car guy element probably. yeah So if you're a car guy out there, you enjoy that kind of stuff.
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This movie has that too. and what i was our Our production designer, Tanya Haswell, she, like, she, every bit of the interior that's dressed out, I mean, there's like, uh, ashtrays with their teeth in it.
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Um, and there's all kinds of weird stuff that made, it we kind of made it like this, like relic of like this, like old religion thing. So, uh, it's a beautiful little piece of art just inside and out. I adore it.
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Well, that was one of those things. Who owns it now? Sorry. Yeah. Okay. It's actually, believe it or not, it's at a friend of mine's house. We had it at our office and the city was like, Hey, you can't leave like oh an old junky car. I'm like, it's not an old junky car. It's like a prop from our film. and they're like, we don't care. You got to get rid of it. It's not going to get out of here.
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Yeah. friend of mine, Matt was just like, and It can't go. i I'll put it in my house. He had a spare sparur space in his garage. It's kind of like the Ark of the Covenant. It's in someone's garage and we'll be there for 50 years. It's somewhere.
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Blaze, we have a mission. We're going to go find Bruce. We're waiting for the film to turn into a big cult classic and then mask it. That's the least we could do for him. Oh, that's actually... You know it.
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there that was the great thing about that The great thing about that car is when you're watching the movie, as soon as the car is shown, you automatically know that that it's a pivotal part of the movie. It's a main role in the movie.
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We put her in the opening credits. but She has an opening credit, too, so yeah with the actors. Yeah, exactly. Speaking of the car, and i don't want to spoil anything, there's ah there's ah there's a scene where the great mechanic ish is working on on grace.
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was Was that planned or was that just a spontaneous thing, you and your tidy whities? Oh my gosh, we talked about this so much. i think i mean i that was a very good idea. It was totally my idea. It was 100% my idea. So like, yeah you know, all the characters, you know, we're were peeling back the layers. They are disheveling throughout the experience.
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um And something that I just, I noticed was that like poor Rainey was going to have to be in her underwear for like the back half of the movie. And I was like, well, in solidarity, I feel like Ish needs at least a scene where he's in his underwear. And then we were talking about, well what what would that underwear be? And i was like, oh, it's the baggiest, dirtiest, tighty-whities. Absolutely.
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But what I will point out, and I hold Brandon to this to this day, and if we ever shoot a sequel, I'm going to make him do right by me. But when they shot Rainey's underwear scene in the river,
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ah they all got in their underwear as the crew in solidarity with her out there in the cold. When I shot my underwear scene, everybody was bundled up just fine. Thank you very much. That's right. and Now, I always make it a thing. I'm like, I always do this with my actors.
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I'm always like so humble. And i did not do it. No, when he got his underwear. And honestly, you looked at him though, he's doing great. So like, it's fine. It might look like you, Brendan. Very different situation visually.
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If I was in your shape, I would put my whitey ties on.
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Yeah, if I was in the kind of shape Brendan was for Ish, then I would go to my whitey tighties as well, but that was not the case. So yeah no one wants to see that. Different assets. when you when you came out from underneath i lost it i'm like what is this motherfucker doing he's absolutely sha and it's also just like like these guys brought to the table i mean like the the three of those guys were constantly iterating thinking they were always together there was always coming up with stuff so i mean they they took over like i brought i brought the the the
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the broad strokes, but those guys really own the characters and they would come up with bits and I would, I'd overhear him and like, I would be excited just to talk to him see what they're coming up with. So a lot the stuff was them just kind of building character and building, you know, how these, how these characters were developing. It was awesome. It great to be a part of. I i love it.
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yeah running channel yeah go for nick i'll just ask i will champion the cast till the day i die i mean it was we lucked out like no one's business on every single person that showed up in that film and what they brought to the character and the sincerity they brought to it and the seriousness of it just i mean they all treated it like it was the most important thing in the world and it was extremely um humbling to be a part of that just to knowing that like you know because brad and i were there it was our kind of our baby and we were definitely swinging for the fences and so to have a cast that showed up and was swinging right there with us was like i mean it's just it felt like a miracle you know yeah i mean i think they're selling themselves short because like they set the tone and they set the culture from day one and i think
00:22:34
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You don't just get that accidentally on any set. Like I've been on plenty of sets where there's people phoning it in or people who fly in for their little piece or people who walk off to their trailer while you talk to a tennis ball.
00:22:45
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None of that on this. Every single person was absolutely in it. And this was the most important thing ah for everybody to be working on at this time. And I think a lot of that goes back to the family, the true family of filmmakers that these two guys work with, they've worked with the same like production designer and you know background team and like audio, like holding the boom on most of their projects. And so when you're walking on set, you are walking into a true family.
00:23:13
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And the shorthand they have with each other, and they take the craft part really seriously, and they take nothing else seriously. So you're just having a great time making cool art.
00:23:24
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Saying and fuck it to everything and then in the meantime you're making probably the work that you're going to be most proud of in your whole career. Hell yeah. Cool. It's definitely one of those movies like I said it's it's it's it's it's it's blowing up. I mean on Amazon it it really is.
00:23:42
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um and And it's one of those movies that you know could definitely see having a cult ah ct following. you know Yeah, there's got to be some weirdos out there like this crap, you know? like Call me the cold leader.
00:23:54
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I know, we found YouTube weirdos, right? Okay, that's good. So let's let's keep going. I was going to say, I was i was actually, i was watching Reacher, and one of the ads was ah was the the preview for it, and I was like, that looks really cool.
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I'm going to check that out. So I put it in my list so that I got a notification the day it came out. I'll tell you what, I did not know it was a musical. I know. Hey, listen. I got some about that.
00:24:23
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Okay. I love that it's a musical, right? I think it's like i think that's what makes it special, right? A Southern
Musical Elements and Southern Gothic Blend
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Gothic musical. And so there were just unnamed people. There's a tunnel of love.
00:24:34
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Who there was when it came time to like pitch it out, of course, what do they want to do? They want to hide it. Like, i and I, I yapped and I fought and I didn't have any say, but if I had my way, we would have been very, up it would have been in the title, a Southern Gothic musical on IMDb.
00:24:51
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Like I, I, and I, next time it will be officially. yeah i i i love um i love musicals myself but i'm going into it i'm thinking like you know it's gonna be like a little supernatural action type uh horror movie whatever and then the you know the opening scene and and and the brothers are kind of and i'm like oh they're just singing along to the jukebox whatever but it goes and then and then he gets next song and i'm like hold the fuck on let me go ahead and google this real quick
00:25:25
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and i'm like oh my god we did so i mean i should you not as the first time i'm watching it i i reached out to blaze and i'm like dude i'm i'm watching this movie and i'm only 20 minutes into it and and i'm i'm loving it it's amazing you gotta check it out and and and so before i even finished before i had even finished the movie I'm on social media looking for everybody. And I'd already talked to Nick before I finished the movie the first time.
00:25:50
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That's how i was 100% locked in. I'm like, this is exciting. Thank you. Yeah, yeah you make you're making my day, man. Thank you. yeah we worked super hard on that. That's also good. I think that really speaks to what filmmaking should be and what I think we're getting a little bit closer to in this kind of rebirth of true indie films is I think that you either should be in or out in the first couple minutes.
00:26:12
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And it's either going to be something that you're like fuck yes, I've never seen this. This is so crazy and weird and I'm in. Or it's not for me and that's cool. You should turn it off. You should go watch something else. And I love that films with a strong lens and a strong perspective, good or bad, I think that that's what we want more of rather than just kind of like, it's fine.
00:26:32
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And that was super intentional. I mean, we we said, like, I mean, give the the first, think, eight minutes or so is as a microcosm of the film. They sing, they kill. It's dark humor. Like, I give you everything. Like, here's all the stuff.
00:26:44
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If you like it, keep going. If you're out, you're out. in No problem. You know, no hard feelings. That's the way to do it. I was going say. That was intentional. We wanted it to, like, shock and all you so that you could either buy in or get out.
00:26:56
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Buy out. i was I was in, like I said, that you kind of introduce each brother. They have their part at the very beginning. and And then when Brendan, when you said, we ain't mu mu mu mu murderers, I said, um that's that's my guy. i have to watch this movie because I got to see what this dude is going to do the rest of the movie.
00:27:20
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But it's a fantastic movie. And and in and you know um I'm hoping there's a sequel. Oh, me too. Yeah. absolutely from like um I need work. Yeah, man. Yeah, for real. Yeah. yeah but whatever or Whatever you need.
00:27:36
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Yeah. i more equal like Let's make a series. Let's go pretend 10 episodes. fifty oh then you know What's up? Oh, the world of the day-long brothers? Oh, dude, I'm sold on that. Cutting down the devil every episode. I'm sold. I like it. yeah and yeah that yeah so i want to I want to ask about the the tempo. we were taught it is It is a musical, but it's not the typical music musical people would think of. there's There's breaks. there's like it's ah yeah It's a specific timing, and I think yeah it allow it draws in it draws in
00:28:12
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it's It's a familiar thing to it. Yeah, it's a 90s Disney animated film. Why show don't you hit this one? Yeah, that's why. Go ahead. You know, there's a million books on how to write movies, but there's none on how to write a musical. And we had done a bunch of shorts in this vein. But when we started getting into the feature version, it was like, all right, these page counts aren't lining up. We're not hitting. We just couldn't figure it out. And so I got nerdy and pulled out.
00:28:36
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all of my favorite musicals, I made a spreadsheet and found out when the songs came in, when the songs left, how many there were, just a bunch of metrics. And by the time I got done with it, I realized that we are much closer structurally to Aladdin or The Lion King or The Little Mermaid.
00:28:51
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um And that's as as silly as it sounds, but that really is the structure of the film. Those songs, those films have, you know, Lion King has like five songs. And and and of course, you you know all of them, but you would never think that that's, that there's that few songs in there.
00:29:04
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But that's exactly what day long. And then we we stretch where the problems went and what they they did. And we were like, OK, well, you know, there's a song is usually a lament here. So then, you know, like where the character sings out something. So like, yeah, we really we looked at Disney movies, Frozen, all that kind of stuff, timed it out. How much dialogue is there between scenes and what's too long? What's too short? And yeah, we just make so much sense. yeah Yeah, it should feel familiar. It should feel familiar.
00:29:30
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Yeah, okay, wow. we are on heart but I like that, that's awesome, man. I've watched musicals and it's cost it boom, boom, boom. yeah i don't Sweeney Todd or something, but yeah there's like a break to actually the actors just do their acting.
00:29:47
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there's there's kind of a store There's content and context and and and whatnot. you know It's not just the singing. but what i ask you I want to ask you, Brendan, when you auditioned for this, did you did you guys have any idea that it was a musical or did you just walk in and they're like, oh, hey, by the way, we need you
Brendan Bradley's Audition for Ish
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to sing.
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And you're like, oh, no, 100%. I think what what made this project so exciting is that And probably the only reason that these guys even bothered to work with me is that it really funneled down who could even be in the project because you had to audition with two scenes. So actually the minimummama murder scene was my first audition scene. Then the scene at the end with Keith where I'm up in his face grabbing him.
00:30:27
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That was the second audition scene. And then Nick gave me Ties That Bind as an instrumental track and then him singing it. And I had to learn that and turn that out. And I remember going to a voice coach in l LA and saying, Hey, I just got this audition. It's due in 48 hours and I've got to learn this song and throw it down. And he was like, I've never seen anything like this. and i was like, Oh, it's pretty typical to audition him this way. And he goes, I've never seen somebody have to knock out this.
00:30:56
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this kind of thing that fast. I didn't give you the deadline. That was Erica. We had to run that. That was the beautiful Erica Arvold, your casting director. So that was the audition process. And then my audition, honestly, it was such a swing for the fences because I read the script, I heard the music, and I had no chill. I was like, I have to be a part of this. I want this more than anything I've ever worked on.
00:31:21
Speaker
And I took such a bold risk that Brandon almost didn't hire me. and the uh oh yeah i love telling people that story so like you know we see you see other brothers and they're like man like that's what's in my head and all that kind of stuff and me and nick have been talking about these characters and so and then brendan comes on the screen and i have ish in my head for years and he comes in and he's all like y'all he's up here you know and i'm like that's not it's not at all right
00:31:47
Speaker
And then it's like then but like, it stuck with me, you know? and I was like, oh man, like, I think that, like, could that be ish? And then eventually i was like, dad damn, I think that's, I think that's ish. And he just brought such a uniqueness to the character that I just, I adored it. And that's when, I mean, really from then it was just collaboration. I think, I mean, we collaborated on on this this this character.
00:32:06
Speaker
He owned the his side and he brought so much the character. And, you know, I was just lucky to get to say yay and, you know, take all the credits. Yeah. But it always goes back to what Brandon created. His script yeah literally had a line that said Ish was a sin eater in the Appalachians.
00:32:22
Speaker
And originally I was playing in very Javier Bardem, like dropping down gravel, yeah Batman, who but but menacing, what we think of as menacing. and then yeah i read that line and i was like oh no he's he's the appalachia he's up there sang song and then it's yeah in some ways you working that way i was like oh that's scarier because gravelly movie batman guy yeah i know is our like mean you know villainous dangerous guy but up there sang songy guy who's doing all the same murdering and all the same threatening
00:32:55
Speaker
I don't know what that is's capable of. He's just a hyena in the wild, which is actually scary. You nailed the Appalachian man in the mouth. Just so high on crazy on himself in life. I grew up with those guys. I grew up with those guys.
00:33:11
Speaker
Kudos, kudos. good eyes kuda I think some of those guys might be my family. I mean, there's some of them on I know some of them are mine.
00:33:22
Speaker
That was my favorite part with Rainy is that she was so... We were just trying to figure out... you know Because she her audit she came from L.A. And I was like, how is her accent so good? and then you find out who her mom is. I'm like, oh, well, then that makes all the sense in the world now. Like how... Oh, that's exactly why she has that she has that sweet Southern accent down to a T, man. And she spent...
00:33:43
Speaker
you know She grew up in North Carolina as well, so she was she so she was hiding her Southernness, but it was there. Nice. yeah That was a nice thing you know with the with the brothers. ah you know They're brothers, but each one of them had their own unique personality, their own unique style. theres There's a reason to love each one of them. you know and and and and To see the three different styles and the three different people come together kind of as a whole,
00:34:13
Speaker
Like, obviously, i can't get and I can't say enough good things about the movie. yeah You know, like... again I really do. I mean, like, look, i can write I can write the funniest words, and we can shoot pretty shots, but if those actors do not bring the chemistry, it don't matter. It's just your movie sucks. And so, like, these guys, like, just from my experience, like, I got to have these three little forces of nature and, like, get just film them. And I was like, dude, get...
00:34:37
Speaker
that's in my movie. Like, you know, awesome. Like every time they did a good shot, i was like, oh man, that's like, I get to, we get to keep that. ah So it was just a delight, you know, just to be able to watch those guys. Cause yeah, you want to, they're all, they're almost in every shot of the movie.
00:34:48
Speaker
Like yeah every shot of the movie. It is about, it is about the Daylong brothers. And so they had to carry everything. And I, I think they, they did an absolutely amazing job. I love it. And many the shots were wonders.
00:35:01
Speaker
Oh yeah. We did wonders. We loved doing long, long, two minute long scenes, you know? yeah and And I will say for anybody that that hasn't watched the movie or if you have watched the movie already and you want to watch it, watch it again because you're going miss a lot of the little one liners and the back and forth between the brothers because because you guys did a great job of sneaking those things in there randomly. but we're actually Trying to get something. Yep.
00:35:28
Speaker
Yeah, there's like conversation about one thing and you're like, you're locked in because you want to you want to pay attention to the story. But after you watch it a second time or a third time, it's like, oh, Ish snuck something in there.
00:35:39
Speaker
Enoch snuck something in there. A little unsuspecting Abe is a little smart-ass wisecracking son of a bitch. Yeah. Yeah. do light yeah Yeah, Quiet and Shy.
Origin of the Movie Concept
00:35:53
Speaker
i want I want to ask you guys, as Brandon and Nick, where did the idea of this movie, this this this script and whatnot come from? like Obviously, it's a fantastic concept and idea.
00:36:06
Speaker
uh just doing laundry one day listened to a podcast and heard the robert johnson story for the first time and so it's like you know the devil and the crossroads right so i never heard it and it was like this kind of like this southern mythology i i thought it was really really cool so you know i wanted to twist it and not do the same thing so yeah the idea of just like what if a guy sold the the souls of any future sons he had and then then went had sons and they had to hunt him down so like it was a That was pretty much the setup and then it was just kind of like designing out the the different characters. But then pretty soon Nick and I decided, hey, we're going make it a musical. and And that changed everything for us to then start redesigning it that direction, which was awesome. by that year
00:36:45
Speaker
Was this your fu ah first musical, Brandon? Oh, no, we've done musicals many, many times. That is actually how we got here. Yeah. So Nick, I'll tell you the story. Yeah, I mean, we'd done short, we'd made shorts kind of for our career for a long time. And the one of the ones that got the most traction was a film called Blood of My Name.
00:37:03
Speaker
and And it just was, i mean, it's very much like this. We even had the dread as a character and that was it was a big black thing, just the precursor to that. it's just, the internet kind of grabbed hold of it and it really blew up. And we were like,
00:37:14
Speaker
we thought it was neat, but it was like we made it and kind of moved on and everyone kept asking us in Hollywood, like, Hey, where's the feature length version of this? You have a script for this. And we had no plan to do anything, but that one just had gotten so much legs. And then they pulled the song from that and they put it in every commercial known to man. And they put it on these big TV shows. I'm like, well, I guess wendy we should, there's an audience for this out there. So that's kind of how it came about. And um Brandon, I know if you remember,
00:37:41
Speaker
we were in your car and you said, Hey, I just listened to this podcast last night. Have you ever heard of Robert Johnson? And of course, you know, being a guitar player, like I know the whole thing. And so then I started kind of waxing poetic and Brandon was like, how do you know about this? I'm like, dude, this is like, I was more like, how do you not know? Like this is, if you played guitar as a kid, like that is, everyone knows that story, but it was so neat. I think it's the first time we we could have a conversation about something in music like that, that was like,
00:38:08
Speaker
he had he had he felt like he had uncovered this secret secret truth and i was like yeah man join the club there's a whole mythology that's deep in there and so much of the character of nehemiah um we were talking about this day of the other day um is based off skip james and just all all of his things about the way his heart was broken and like you know going playing all these people like it was all based on actual bluesmen from the 20s and 30s um that ended up being that character you know it This was, you said it's called Blood on My Name?
00:38:38
Speaker
Yes. that so I did a quick, ah quick um ah is it, hold on, ah bright Brothers Bright, want make sure I got the right. Yep.
00:38:49
Speaker
but i'm sorry I'm making sure I found the item because i I'm going to watch this later. I was telling you before we started tonight, please, about Brothers Break. When I first watched the movie, I seen the Robert Crouch. I love blues music.
00:39:04
Speaker
I'm a big blues guy. cool so i you know When he got to that, I was like, Nice tie-in, you know, like it's a little, you know, a little, because yeah, like you said, if you like blues or if you are a guitar player and you're just learning, I mean, that's one of the, one of the most legendary stories out there as far as blues it goes.
00:39:27
Speaker
I mean, he simply sold his soul to be the best at the end of the day. And then, and then everybody knows, i get well, not everybody apparently, but people know about Skip as well, you know? Yeah. So,
00:39:38
Speaker
so and And that's one of the things I liked about it. Yeah, I didn't know but the that the mythology was that, you know, I'd i'd heard, yeah, you sold you to the devil, and then he just gave you fame and fortune, or gave the ability to play guitar, but I'd never heard the one where he tuned it for you And that was one that was one of the new things I learned, that like, that was another mythology a Southern mythology, is that when the devil took the guitar, tuned it for you, and all the songs in the film are in some weird, open minor tuning. And if you watch the credits, actually, there's little Easter egg,
00:40:07
Speaker
for when it gets to the songs, the tunings for every song is right beneath you you can see them and they're all like it's like open G minor and open D minor and all these weird tunings. But that was something to put in the film that you know, abus he can't figure out to play the song until his dad puts it in the weird tuning, you know, and The cool thing was Keith was a guitar player. So Keith was like, what's the tuning? He'd never heard of it.
00:40:29
Speaker
But then he knew like, OK, we're going drop the E to D. We're going to drop the A to G, leave the D alone, leave the G alone, leave the B to B flat and the E to D. And like he just did it perfectly. And I didn't even pay attention when were on set. But we were in the post process. was like, oh, crap, he actually tuned this.
00:40:45
Speaker
Like yeah he did it right. I was blown blew my mind, man.
Keith Carradine's Role and Authenticity
00:40:48
Speaker
I couldn't believe if he did it. But he was he was I could I could never say enough good things about Keith Carradine. He's the man. ah he Well, he you know, he's he's in you know his his family, you know, he's an absolute legend in the and the the film and yeah television industry, you know.
00:41:04
Speaker
But, yeah, that was that was really, that was one of those things, one of those quotes that stood out, you know, you can't play the devil's ah music when you're in the Lord's tune. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lord's tune in. And I was just like, as a blues guy, as a fan of the blue blues music, there was those little so subtleties that I was like,
00:41:23
Speaker
nice well well played well done guys well done that's awesome was actually i i love hearing that man that's the stuff that i snuck in there i'm like you know what it doesn't matter if anyone gets it but it's just a deeper layer of it but i knew there'd be a couple people that were like wait a second and they'd pick out their guitar and be like i don't know how to play this this weird so like we were actually we got it where it's on our to-do list but i'm going to make the videos of like how to play all the songs because they're not something that you're just going to be able to pick up and play in standard tuning it just doesn't work I got a nephew who's really getting into guitar playing. He's doing really good self-teaching and stuff. I think I'm going show him this movie and show him all. Yeah, man.
00:41:58
Speaker
I think I love it, yeah. And we even the guitar is like in a Gibson L1. That was the Robert Johnson guitar. you know like it's I think ours is a 34. I think he probably had the late 20s, but it was the closest we could afford that was in that area, you know?
00:42:11
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Those little details, like with Grace and the guitar and and and the tuning, is that's... and And I'm a self-proclaimed music whore. I love music.
00:42:23
Speaker
I listen to all types of music, all genres, all eras. Obviously, that was the thing that, you know, once I realized it was a musical, I'm like, hell yeah. I can reach out. I got to get these guys. You are the target demo is what we call you.
00:42:39
Speaker
yeah man I'm not ashamed of it. Like I said, it's just good to find fellow weirdos out there, you know, to connect. to i'm really um I'm really impressed and I'm i'm really happy with the with the, you know, with us talking about it and and recently sharing it and stuff like that.
00:42:57
Speaker
I'm really impressed with the amount of people who who have watched it and and have had ah good things to say about Actually, one of our one of our friends one of our friends here on the network and whatnot said that it reminded her of a combination of the Devil's Rejects and boondock saints because it had that right looking for looking for their father kind of revenge right ah yeah i feel yeah yeah with with a little comedic side to it but also that that backwoods gore extra fact you know with devil's reject but and and when when she told me that i was like
00:43:35
Speaker
That is an interesting take. And I'm going to drop that tonight. because Yeah, yeah. I loved it. I was like, God, I was a child when Boondock Saints came out. But it was like the movie that like my parents like didn't know I had. So like when everyone's gone, I'd throw in Boondock Saints. you know And it was like yeah a little really was like my the the the secret indulgence movie.
00:43:56
Speaker
Really? yeah i and so Because I had a movie like that adolescence. It was Porky's. But but fit not Boondocks. I wouldn't even think that movie would be in that room. I guess it depends on what kind appearance you have.
00:44:08
Speaker
That is so weird. It was awesome. they warning violent ah Way over the top. All the crap that I like. you know Reese said she's a weirdo. So there you guys go.
00:44:21
Speaker
You're welcome. Yes, sir Crimson. Yeah, Crimson was actually the one who it gave me that movie reference. So shout out to her for for that that that. Thank you, Crimson. Yep. I'm feeling it. I do because the music was so different.
00:44:38
Speaker
and and and And it was, you know, even even the slower stuff, excuse me, even the slower stuff was still very upbeat. And it had ah it had a distinct sound to it.
00:44:50
Speaker
So this one goes to you, Nick, because obviously you're the, you're the mastermind behind this. um You kind of set yourself. Yeah. You, you kind of, you kind of set yourself out out from everybody else and this is its own unique sound and style and everything.
00:45:05
Speaker
Where does that come from for you? I mean, and, and please continue to make more music like that. Yeah. I mean, thank you. Thank you for saying that, um you know, everyone wants to have their own kind of style and own approach things. And I mean, I, I wish I could take credit and say that it was some intentional thing. It's just, you know, you do things long enough and you start, you know, the the palette is, you know, the road's this wide and you keep doing it and you start to narrow and eventually that's kind of what you do, you know, but for whatever reason, I, I played guitar enough or any other instrument that like you you start to get, um
00:45:39
Speaker
used to what it's going to sound like. can close my eyes and pick up a guitar and just know what going sound like. But when you started putting them in weird tunings, you kind of don't know what you're getting yourself into. And so that, for whatever reason, I just started doing that and then really experiencing with like, you know, you take the open, most of them are like open major tunings. And I was like well, make it open minor tuning. And then when you do that, it already sounds like so like You don't even have to you know you don't have to do anything to it. you just You just hit it, and it already kind of sounds moody, so it has like a baked-in thing, and then you just go from there, and it kind of it it ends up telling you what it wants to do. um And when you have the story about the devil and and the crossroads and all that stuff, it just it was like going back to find, okay, I love the blues as well, but you know modern blues is not my favorite thing, mainly because most of it's sung by like rich white people, and of it doesn't seem to make as much sense as the origin of.
00:46:28
Speaker
Yeah. unfortunately So I would go back and like everyone stole, you know, feel like the thing that everyone stole was like the 12 bar blues progression. But I'm like, if you go back and listen to like, you know, hard time killing four blues at Skip James, soon and I'm like, that's would be called a blues song, but it would never fit any of the stuff that you think of when you think of modern blues. And so i was like, well, let me just go back to those periods and steal.
00:46:52
Speaker
steal the stuff that hasn't been stolen like if you know a lot of the weird meter stuff where like charlie christian would sing and then just he would he'd be in like four and then just start singing and then okay well there's bar six for no reason or you know he just would he would just do that because it was just him singing off the top of his head so trying to do some of that um that's all the stuff that i feel like i was stealing from that genre without like being obvious about it you know It's not something that most people are going to pick up on unless you're a student of that stuff. But it was me trying to not be as obvious with it and trying to be a little more um crafty with my theft, you know?
00:47:28
Speaker
was going to say, that's that's that's that's the music industry. I mean, yeah you you um listen to yeah you listen to artists today and and it you know you know some of the stuff we grew up on, you can hear where their influence comes from.
00:47:44
Speaker
Yeah. Dylan said, you know, i remember Bob Dylan was talking about the blues artists in the 60s and he was a little grumpy because he said, you know, when you listen to the black guy singing from the 20s, it sounded like they were always trying to get out of the blues and you listen to these white kids doing it. Sounds like they're trying to get into him, you know, it's different.
00:48:04
Speaker
It's a different way of thinking about it for sure. Yeah. You got you gotta to live it. You got to live it to sing it, man. yeah so that was that That was the great curse of Nehemiah.
Character Nehemiah and Blues Influence
00:48:13
Speaker
Yeah. That's what happened to him.
00:48:15
Speaker
A thousand heartbreaks, man. You got to live it to to sing it. Yeah. And that was the other Skip James thing. That was part of his biography where he said it was so funny because I grew up in like, you know, the 90s and like you read about these 80s rock stars and it was like, how many women can we bed? You know, that was the thing. But but apparently Skip James, he told the story like, you know, the bluesmen would go from town to town to town and the women would be standing on the street corner every weekend when a new bluesman would come in and they would have a competition to see who could bed this guy.
00:48:44
Speaker
And so Skip would say, you know, I would go to town to town, but I would like to find these women that I would be, I'd like try to fall, I'd fall in love with them. And then they would throw me to the curb for the next guy. So it's the exact opposite of what happened in the seventies and eighties where like, you know, Zeppelin's going from town to town, bedding women in the twenties, you know, they would go town to town and then they would get taken advantage of and just have their heart broken everywhere they went.
00:49:05
Speaker
which is strange to think about that's such a weird dichotomy man yeah i blaze i think i'm the reincarnation of skip i need to learn how to play this guitar behind me and start singing some blue do it man yeah let's do it it that's just that's a story women i don't if that still exists but you can try a little little different there but but twenty twenty five things are different yeah yeah but Nobody wants to watch a big white a big white dude that looks like Sasquatch singing the ball blues. Come on. yeah they might they might not they might not They might not want to watch you, but if you sound good, they might listen to you.
00:49:48
Speaker
Yeah, that's the problem. There's too many good-looking people making music these days. It used to be that way. this is They there were judged on the merit of their voice and their music. Now it's like, can you look good on TV? We'll get you some songs. Don't worry about it. Yeah.
00:50:02
Speaker
That's interesting. Yeah, exactly. Thank you MTV. Not really. yeah but No offense, Brennan, because Brennan's beautiful, but Brennan can sing
Soundtrack Recording Process
00:50:13
Speaker
as well. you know that was that was that was That was the joy of him. I was like, all right. When we did those auditions he was talking about it, i yeah this was an independent film, so we did not have money to to just do it every one. I'm like, I wrote these things, and this is the key, because we're going to get together the week before we shoot, and we're going to record these songs.
00:50:30
Speaker
And if you can't sing these notes, then you're not in the movie, because we can't afford to do anything else. And so when I sit in the parts, it was like... this is the hardest part and if you can do that i'm not worried about the rest and so specifically brendan that one part like he did it and it was it was exactly what it needed to be and i was like yep check move on you can find out in two seconds if someone can say you know it's really it's pretty easy the act like the acting i brandon you can correct me if this is not the same for you but like acting it For me, it takes a minute to, you kind of want to watch the scene unfold and see how they're going to do their lines and how their, how their, how their, you know, expressions are going to be with the music stuff. It was like, I could tell, Brandon can attest, it was like within seconds. Like, yeah, that'll work, move on. It didn't matter. you can just tell almost immediately, you know?
00:51:13
Speaker
Which I think Nick Breeze by this, but this is actually crazy. ah they They made the record of of the Daylong Brothers, all the songs a week before we shot because we needed to have them done. Right.
00:51:26
Speaker
Wow. How the hell else are we going to record this if we don't have the songs? So those guys all, so like we would do rehearsal and then the brothers would rotate in the studio with Nick and they were all recording constantly to get the whole thing. Nick's editing over the weekend so that we can hit play on set on Monday. It was ah it yeah quite a feat that no one really thinks about. mean You mean you guys were not really singing on set?
00:51:49
Speaker
They were, but also Keith was reporting. Yeah, we were reporting, but they gave reporters on set. I don't think you're going to sound as good as you did on the movie if you're chasing after a one-legged creature. To that point, I mean, keith is the one Keith didn't have time to go into the studio, so he actually sang on location in the spot where you see him do the scene.
00:52:14
Speaker
So yeah that he's actually out there in the woods singing that live, which is insane. We both started lunch. but Like, all right, you guys leave. We're going to stay here and do this thing. When you start to wrap, how long did it take 10 years. I mean, shooting was only 30
COVID-19 Delays
00:52:31
Speaker
days. days of principal photography and then probably a week of pickups without the cast, but then forever to get it done thanks to COVID and other things.
00:52:40
Speaker
thank for this is How long ago did you film this? This has been a long time coming. i don't know. When was Obama president? I can't remember. Oh, my. No, look at that one. It was a minute ago. Yeah, we filmed right before COVID, and then COVID shut down the entire film business. I mean, I remember we filmed at the same time that Elvis was being filmed, and we handed our film in – right at the same time it because i was like man we're just getting left behind but i was like elvis this huge you know this big film with austin bolner's same thing they shot in 2019 that something come out till 2023 it's just every film that was happening right then just got
00:53:19
Speaker
blown up by that whole thing and we were not you know and and they had money and we didn't so it was definitely a thing you know okay and then of course you know independent route we had it finished you know in really 2022 and 2023 it's like you know pitching it to distributors and buying and then they picked it up and but like oh we don't want to put out until this time so it just ends up being this well one day it'll be out there and we'll see it and cool i'll be excited We'll just get it when it happens.
00:53:46
Speaker
I'm glad it happened. I'm glad it's out there. um I want Brendan, it seems like because as the guys have said, obviously, youre you the character of Ish and who you are in real life could not be anything more polar opposite.
00:54:02
Speaker
you know The way you look, obviously I mean, just on looks alone, it looked like for Abe and Enoch, you know, you scruff them up a little bit, dirty them up a little bit, but You went like complete 180, man, to to to to play this.
00:54:18
Speaker
So what was that like for you? Because i've I've seen some of your social media. I've seen some videos and it's just like, that's not even the same guy in any way, shape, and or form. Like, what was that like for you? mean, that's the dream, right? That's the dream. That's the job, is you're like, I want to become somebody completely different than me and take on entirely different universe. But especially for this piece, what I really received from, when you read a Brandon McCormick script,
00:54:47
Speaker
It isn't like a Hollywood script. It reads like a fucking novel. Like it's this beautiful, dirty, like all so much stage direction of the mentality of the characters and the world and the grit of that world is all in the text.
00:55:05
Speaker
And so from from literally the moment that I was kind of tagged to be the like we had a Zoom meeting basically so they could see if I was a real human.
Transformation into Characters
00:55:15
Speaker
And on that Zoom meeting, we both were doing the thing where we were like, OK, agents and casting and all these ah this this machine has to get involved for a moment.
00:55:23
Speaker
But I'm pretty sure that we want to work together and we're going to do whatever it takes of mean to not mess that up. ok Yeah. um And so I started from that call, even with no offer, with no deal, started growing the beard because I was like, I-ish needs to be this backwoods guy. And then yeah on a ah i did a ah Breaking Bad parody.
00:55:46
Speaker
um for Nerdist like 10 years ago. And the makeup designer of that had taken somebody's like retainers and stained them and like messed up somebody's teeth to give them like meth teeth.
00:56:01
Speaker
yeah And so what I did was I saved Invisalign. From back when I had done, like straightened my teeth. And I gave them to our makeup team. And I said, can you just make these disgusting?
00:56:14
Speaker
And so I could pop in these dirty teeth for all of Isha's scenes. Because there is just something to this like layer of constant grime and dirt of what these boys have been through that you just can't fake. Right. Like in some ways, like there's, there's even like George Clooney right now is talking about the the role he plays in good night, good luck.
00:56:34
Speaker
The reason he plays a different role now than he played, he didn't think he could do Morrow when they did the movie. He was like, I didn't have the gravitas. didn't have the lived experience. And i feel like there's so much of the texture and the experience and the grit of of the day long country that this guy does not. believe This guy doesn't make it beyond act one in that world. you are out of the bar You are far too pretty to make it out of the opening scene. I'm just saying. Yes. So so I just, I needed to be in that world. And and what I loved about that was it it allowed me to really disappear inside of Ish. I then in some ways didn't have to worry about, think a lot of times, especially in film, is you're worried about, is it working? Is it working? Is it working? And there's a trust level you have to really have with the director you
00:57:25
Speaker
I'm going to give you a bunch of stuff, but I'm not sure if this is going to make the edit. And once you start putting on the layers of a character like that, the accent, the beard, the teeth, dust ah the the clothes, you you then certain you're just in it, you're immersed and you then just really get to focus on the relationships. And so I think in a lot of ways, maybe it's a cheat, maybe it's not. But in the way that Daniel Day Lewis truly immerses himself in a character so he can then just focus on the relationships.
00:57:53
Speaker
this is probably the only time in my career I've gotten to really do that with Ish. Yeah. Okay. And also I'll, I'll, I'll jump in there and brag on it for a second. What you get with a Brendan and Bradley on set is a he is a craftsman, right? So like he shows up with the, the, the craft of storytelling. It's not just like a hobby. It's not a thing. He comes and like, completely prepared but he also like gets independent filmmaking like he's been on low budget sets so like it was really this kind of like collaboration we felt like we had where it was just like hey we're we're gonna steer this ship uh together to get to the other side of this thing uh but he understood man we we were scrappy we were moving fast he was he felt like an independent filmmaker because he is one and so we're able to collaborate not just you know director and actor but really filmmaker to filmmaker and got to
00:58:39
Speaker
you know get through get through it together, which was really,
Collaborative Nature of the Project
00:58:42
Speaker
really fun. It was awesome. So you don't always get that. Sometimes the actor is something you have to deal with, you know, like ah an issue that you have to solve. Brendan was a ah energy into the the propulsion of the engine, which was was great to have.
00:58:55
Speaker
It sounds like the entire production of the film, other than the time and the work that goes into making the film, it was just relatively coming together and artists pointing or taking their own crafts and putting this out for all of us to enjoy. So yeah, that's it.
00:59:15
Speaker
Ah, man, I don't, I don't know what else to put it other than that's just amazing. Thank you, man. Yeah. We feel like it it really is the artistry. I mean, you, you forget, like you forget like things are how things are like crazy important, like the costume design. Right. So like Dana Connick did the costume design.
00:59:30
Speaker
Uh, we had talked about, like, I didn't really give a lot of direction, but we wanted to say like, you want to be able to see their silhouette and know which character it is. Right. Like that was kind of like the, the design direction. And so she builds them out. And so like, again, now you, they're so iconic when you see them, it's just ah another layer of storytelling.
00:59:45
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Every article of clothing and jewelry has a story that they've written and put into it. um They have like, they, they are artists, ah you know, Tanya, and we've got, um, Help me with some names here. We got all of my production team.
00:59:57
Speaker
ah They're just they're just they are artists in themselves. They're putting themselves in the work. And I love that collaboration. So yeah and I think you feel it the layers of it because it's not just me pointing a camera somewhere. It's a bunch of people making something pretty special.
01:00:09
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So and you say and and you said to yourself it's felt like like as as the audience member, we feel that. And that's that. and like That to me is is not not just a great film, but great storytelling. So.
01:00:24
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I'll brag on one story with that. Dana, our our costumes, ah we were trying to figure out what Ish's whole ensemble was going to be, and they settled on that hat.
01:00:38
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ah for Ish to wear for pretty much the whole movie. But we needed the hat to have a story because we needed to really inform that everything these boys wears has a story. yeah And so then they made the decision, okay well, what if he found that hat in the opening scene on the guy whose head they blow off?
01:00:56
Speaker
So then we had to know, okay, we're going to put that hat there. And that's how he acquires what becomes Ish's hat that in any other movie would just always be Ish's hat. But in this one scenario, yeah, we have the origin of the hat, which, you know, is such a throwaway. But the fact that every single object and every single thing in the movie has its own origin story is awesome.
01:01:18
Speaker
The gun, Ruby, is actually the exact model of Jack Ruby's gun that killed Lee Harvey Oswald. Nice. Yeah, so we had those little details in there of the gun. Oh, he's got it.
01:01:33
Speaker
It's a prop. It's a prop. It's not a prop. It was naked. You can look at the evidence thing. That's gun the gun that killed it. It's got the the, what's it called? The shroud. the shroud yes yeah yeah' so where you very It's a very specific yeah kind of thing. that's ah that's what was That's what I was just going to bring up. In the opening scene, you get to see a little bit of each brother's personality with with Ish and the switchblade and Enoch and the gun. And and you know, as soon as Abe got the brass knuckles, you're like, oh shit.
01:02:06
Speaker
You know, as soon as you see them brass knuckles, all hell's about to brass knuckles. The guy. The little quiet one. The way he put the brass knuckles on, it was just even... even and and one And later on, and I'm trying not to put too many spoilers out, but later on in the movie, there's a scene where all hell breaks loose, quite literally.
01:02:26
Speaker
and yeah and And it chucks the knife and and Abe gets the... yeah ne And I'm like, oh, the first time watching it, it's like, oh, it's about to go down now because he was putting them nooks on us. You know the story you want to tell.
01:02:41
Speaker
Go for it. Yeah, come on. What, do you want to talk about the knife? No, I want to talk about pegging the camera. Oh, pegging the camera. but Yeah, man. I need something different on this podcast, Brandon. Oh, my bad. Where is this going?
01:02:58
Speaker
Pegging what? Okay, I was going to answer some behind-the-scenes stories. Yeah, y'all's SEO is just all over the place now. No, they're... no there Specifically the, when we begin the big ties that bind song in the climax, um it's a big one shot of like Clarence, the kind of devil's broker walking around all three of us.
01:03:20
Speaker
um And he ends with me and then returns. And I, advocated on the day, i was like, what if I look straight in the camera and say, you're not going to see a goddamn thing and throw the knife to blind him.
01:03:33
Speaker
And Brandon's like, I don't know. Is that too much? And I said, Brandon, I'm about to start fucking singing. i don't think that it's too much to look into the camera. And I was like, okay, you're right. too It was like, I had the hesitation. He's like, dude, what are we doing out here?
01:03:50
Speaker
This is whole things too much. I was like, oh shit. Yeah, you're right. yeah You got rule number one. thing that Too much is good. yeah Too much is good. too much too much is good yes I didn't get the knife perfectly. had to learn how to spin that knife.
01:04:07
Speaker
And I also knew that I was going to have to actually throw up at the air and catch it and stab in the in the one take. And so every single night in every hotel that we were in I was sitting there on the bed practicing throwing this knife into the ceiling and stabbing my pillow.
Outdoor Shooting Challenges
01:04:27
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she attention have to it Only one. You only had one take to do it, man. Director's nail. I'm losing the light. Fair enough.
01:04:42
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Man, there's going to be a lot of tight, tight timing schedules, course, because like you had just said, the lighting is huge, especially when it's all outdoors. The majority is all outdoors. Yeah. Lighting is huge.
01:04:54
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Was there any time you had to use any sort of artificial light outside of the compensate for for this oh yeah no this was uh yeah but a few times there was one specific shot that you would never know uh we were the sun was falling out of the sky and our our gripping gaff guys were like we got to we got this we can do it we can save the day i was like dude please help us we need one more shot to get out of here and it does not match anymore and those those boys hauled ass and they set up these lights like that and they hit the light it was perfect we shot a We shot it. like They hit it in two takes, and then we were out. It was like save the day. I was just blown away by the the the movie magic of it all. so
01:05:33
Speaker
Those guys stepped up and saved the day. because I was like, we'll have to punt the shot. or maybe well you know it was ah They saved it. It was good. Matthew Cease and Nick Yoste. Those were the guys. but yeah we Alex as well, yeah.
01:05:46
Speaker
The shooting was was crazy tight and it was that's why I think it was like we got a little bit of rehearsal time because we knew like so for instance when we're up on the up on the ridge line, you know, we wanted to shoot that a magic hour. So when you want to shoot something a magic hour, you have a ticking clock over your head. You've got 20 minutes of decent and then you're screwed.
01:06:06
Speaker
So I knew even if we had all the time in the world, which we didn't, we were going to two takes out of it. Like that was it. We had It it was the Vista. we we when We don't get it. We don't get it. ah So, you know, but those guys rose to the occasion every time. We do these long, complicated one-ers.
01:06:21
Speaker
My cameraman, Sam Lobster, he's ah you know he's just like dancing with these guys. And like, they're just really, really doing these incredibly complicated things and just nailing it every time. It was just like, I mean, they were, we wanted to do like a blooper reel or whatever. We don't have any. There were, there were like,
01:06:36
Speaker
Yeah. We were shooting two, three takes move. Yeah. We were going. Wow. So ah yeah that some of that you know we were lockstep. The actors, everybody was dialed in and it was, just ah shooting the, the, the heck out of that movie. It that all it Not only, yeah not only would I, uh, you know, I don't, I don't think I'm speaking for myself here. I think there's a lot of people who have seen the movie, uh, would love to see a sequel, but ah for me personally, is there any way we can put, uh,
01:07:06
Speaker
the three brothers in a room in character and just record them interact with each other as a- Oh my slash out Every single pre-roll from the moment that we started the camera rolling until Brandon called action, Nikan Robinson does not break character as Enoch.
01:07:24
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So he is just up in my, he is here, just saying nonsense at me until Brandon calls action and then he's- Nonstop.
01:07:37
Speaker
There's a lot of big little brother energy that was we loved. we We were picking up all that little brother energy. That's awesome. yeah just the The interactions between them between the three of you guys were just something else. Like I said, you guys got to watch the movie. If you got to watch it a couple times, watch it ah do it yourself favor. Just to see those subtle interactions between the three brothers. like that's ah That's something I want to see.
01:08:00
Speaker
more More out of greediness is just... yeah going to character and just go into the bar as as the brothers as the day long brothers and we're and improv everything and we're just going to record that and i'll watch it now yep all right so chris so chris i just sent you just emailed it to you have an extended take of them yelling i've got a bunch of them but i knew there's one the very end of the film where they go into that restaurant and they're just yelling and when we were doing the promotional stuff i was just poured through the footage and again i i was looking for like the funny stuff the outtakes i'd brand's right there's not very many if any but there is a lot of um brendan and nike and
01:08:40
Speaker
Just arguing with each other. i Honestly, one um but i mean I have a million favorite memories, but but truly one of my favorite moments of the entire thing was before we shot a thing.
01:08:51
Speaker
It was the week we were doing the record and they were doing fittings and they did the first um screen test for their wardrobe. And they walked out there and they were mean you're just supposed to stand there in your clothes and see how you know the lights hitting it and put the camera up.
01:09:04
Speaker
But Brendan and I can just started going at each other. And I, had you know, Brandon had maybe maybe maybe Brandon saw it because he was rehearsing with him. But I was, you know, locked in the dungeon recording. So to come out into the daylight.
01:09:16
Speaker
and see these guys be character was like one of the greatest joys of the entire thing for me. i was like, oh my gosh, this is going to work because just that banter alone was so, so good. And just right of the gate, you know, Jordan as Abe knew that he wasn't a part of that.
01:09:32
Speaker
Like that was those two and Jordan was just going to be, and he'd like, again, we're just standing around and the in the fitting and they would argue and Jordan would just kind of be like,
01:09:43
Speaker
And he just would kind of walk away and lean back. And it was like, you could just see them right there. You know, it was crazy. And then, of course, Rainy comes out in her little outfit and they all kind of like, you shape up. I'm like, that's what she does, too. was just just them being there together just really nailed it. You know, that's such great chemistry. Absolutely. Yeah, it was so fun.
01:10:03
Speaker
So, i know all right. So before before we went live, we we bantered a little bit prior to come up. You guys are buddies on the outside of ah outside of the whole movie biz, correct?
01:10:13
Speaker
It was that that that was a that was my understanding. You guys play video games together and stuff. So. How's that? How's that on the on the outside? Well, yeah, i mean Nick and I have been working together for, gosh, 20 years, whatever. I mean, we yeah, yeah, we started.
01:10:27
Speaker
Yeah, know wait like it is. It is just been us like building this thing with a team of of artists. So ah but I get to I met Brandon on set. know, it was our first that was our first hookup. But, you know we clicked right away for sure.
01:10:42
Speaker
Yeah, Brent and I, again, we're were friends. And i mean, i when I graduated college, I met him out of that. And he kind of was doing with what he wanted to do with film is something I wanted to do with music. And we just kind of got along really well out of the gate and just found out that we had similar tastes and similar goals. And so started making shorts and stuff. And then eventually, you know,
01:11:02
Speaker
he had called me because he just had heard some music from this band I was in and just, I didn't even know why we decided to do it but we all decided we like musicals. was like, well, we can try to do one. you know, we were making shorts all the time.
01:11:14
Speaker
And so it just kind of, it really did start like that to the point where this next thing we're working on now, where we just met today to to talk about, we're almost done writing it, but it's another, it's another musical just because we thought, well, if we're going to do the next one, this is kind of what we're getting known for now. So let's just try another one of those.
Tease of a New Post-apocalyptic Love Story
01:11:29
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And so,
01:11:30
Speaker
that's what Hopefully we'll get a chance to make another one here, but that's what we're working on right now because for whatever reason, that when we get together and sit in a room, that's just kind of what happens, man. any Any teasers that you can share? If not, that's cool.
01:11:43
Speaker
A post-apocalyptic love story musical, right? Oh, fuck, I love it already. Okay, okay. Carnage and love, right? A little juxtaposition. um We said it was children of men flirting with La La Land in a smoky bar, you know, kind of thing.
01:11:58
Speaker
But set in like after the world has ended. So, ah yeah, it's ah it's a lot of magic realism. We're going to really kind of ratchet everything up to the to the next level. Super, super excited. So, Still Southern vibes, but not Gothic. Yeah.
01:12:10
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yeah It's day long and a major key is how I've been saying it. Yeah. it's yeah like The same vibes, still same like starkness, but also a little more ah we're fun But less murder.
01:12:22
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Some murder, but less
Film's Religious and Cultural Themes
01:12:24
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murder. It's also left-wing propaganda. So we kill a lot of Nazis in it, which is great. yeah I love it. Oh, anti-fascist. We can mow them down. kill ah Yeah, it's it's a it's got a little bit a message. Sold. Sold.
01:12:38
Speaker
Nice. Yeah, let's go. Let's get it. I, uh, I want wait. So this movie definitely has a, um, um, Oh God, I don't to a religious bent. It's not really that, but it does.
01:12:53
Speaker
it does pull from sort of religious mythology and stuff. That old time religion. Yeah. for Yes. The old time Southern, uh, Oh, uh,
01:13:04
Speaker
God, where's that word I'm looking for? The rapture religion. the whole Yeah, right. You've been dancing with some snakes up in the tents. Yes! That's We've dug deep in that well of old-time religion. and It was definitely like... ah Part of it, too, is I think it's like America's mythology. you know It's like this kind of... like you know When you think about things, these epic stories, they you know you Moses and and Noah and these like these critical characters everybody knows. so It's kind of like this kind of Americana...
01:13:33
Speaker
mythology that is really really cool so and we're you from the south this is we're in the rust belt man this is this ain't like playing pretend this is like we are steeped in the religion down here and the old time baptists and we got there's a church on every corner so uh you know it's called the bible belt but yeahny yeah the ra by Yeah. That's where we drew from, for sure. It was a lot of that religious and then all you know themes of like hypocrisy and just like, yeah, man, going all kinds of crazy stuff. but so yeah i mean that For us, it was really the hypocrisy, like making a film about hypocrites that
01:14:11
Speaker
you know, are going to sit there, you know, or Ren and Jillian at his brother saying, you know, don't, don't blast me while murdering someone, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't make a lot of sense. But then again, you see the culture that we live in now, you know, but like the January 6th, like beating the guy to death with an American flag and and what the Jesus saves. It's just a lot of that. There's a lot of cognitive dissonance there. So was like, that definitely seeped into the film as far as like, Hey, it's definitely, it's definitely pointing a finger at at a few people. And, um you know,
01:14:42
Speaker
They don't know who they are when they watch it. Yeah, i know I know the guy who would kill somebody, but I'd really be upset if you said GD. I know that guy. like the yeah i can I can probably think of a couple off my name down in Florida. and we There you go. Down here. Down in these parts. Yeah.
01:14:59
Speaker
ah They're down here. So it's authentic. course is any Yeah. Church on Sundays, we're a mixed fabric. I got you. no but also know It's a story of forgiveness, right? that It's a story that they're chasing retribution the whole time. And I think what's complicated and beautiful about religion in general is that religion, no matter what it is, it will always be through the lens of humans. Yeah.
01:15:27
Speaker
And so whatever that spirituality is, it's going to be kind of biased and informed and tainted by our humanness, our messiness, our complicatedness. um And I think what's beautiful about these boys is that they think they're following scripture. They think that they're on a righteous path.
01:15:43
Speaker
And in some ways, what they've got to reckon with is we're just the damned killing the damned by the end of it. And so I think the message, the message in that is so great because it's that awareness of us all.
01:15:54
Speaker
We can have our beliefs, we can have our values, but sometimes we need to the reminder. Are we even following our own beliefs and values? Yeah. So, oh, with that said,
01:16:08
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It just popped in my
Exploration of Original Sin and Mystical Elements
01:16:09
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head. The fact that's that their father sells their soul prior to their even existing. There's like a level of exploitation there from yeah from that institution.
01:16:21
Speaker
And then the whole time they're they're having they're stuck in this box of rules that they're having to quote unquote use the same rules within that box. to get out of it's this whole huge like world dilemma thing going yeah it's got some commentary on the original sin right you know like this idea that you're damned before you're born you know the rest you with this idea you know and you even sell your soul you know yeah is that even a thing yeah like yeah like we let a lot of the mysticalness be magical and mystical but didn't i don't really like explaining a lot of stuff i think it's more fun if you just kind of insinuate and let the audience fill in those gaps you know
01:16:56
Speaker
I think he kind of highlights the convolutedness of that mythology. Yeah, yeah yeah but absolutely. The irony for sure that, you know, the devil at the crossroads is a myth that originated in, as Flannery O'Connor said, the Christ haunted South.
01:17:12
Speaker
This idea that they sold their soul of the devil at the same time going to church every Sunday and singing about that Jesus paid the price for their soul. And so like, how ah can how can you sell a soul that that was already been
Flannery O'Connor and Southern Influence
01:17:23
Speaker
bought and paid for? Like that's like the Monday through Saturday. It was that it was the discussion about selling your soul the devil and that on Sunday they would all go to the same exact church and sing about how their soul is redeemed. You know, so it definitely there's definitely a lot there that um that doesn't hold up to scrutiny for sure. But that is I mean, there's something beautiful about that, though, in the south where people are just constantly
01:17:46
Speaker
reckoning with their salvation over and over and over again. They're trying to find out, am I still am i still damned? Am I still this awful thing? Brennan, you can say this more eloquently than I, but what was what was Flannery talking about when she said the Christ haunted South? like What was her...
01:18:01
Speaker
What was her point? I mean, it's the idea. Yeah. So like, it's the idea that we're like more like in the South where it's not so much that we're religious, right? It's more that we're like haunted by it. So like Jesus is always watching. God's always looking at, he's counting our sins like loose change. And so it's like, you know, am I in the good? am I mad at him? So like, you feel this like haunting of religion. So you're always worried. Maybe you're doing the wrong thing.
01:18:23
Speaker
so it's not, it's, it's, you know, so that's kind of like Flannery's like way of like saying that it was more like a oppressive kind of vibe going on. now I think this was i think this was ah Bertrand Russell that talked the hit up on this, but i think what what you're describing sort in an abstract way is Puritan realism.
01:18:43
Speaker
um And that that that's not just like Jesus haunting the South. That's actually something that covers most of the country itself. It kind of dies out a lot as you move toward the West Coast. yeah um from the from the From the Northeast all the way down South, that idea of when the Puritans came over here separate their their religious and the mythology, but their daily habits, their work ethics, their virtues and such and such, those things are ingrained part of American culture, excluding the the religious part. And that seems sort of like more of what you're talking about, the haunted Jesus South.
01:19:20
Speaker
Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's all all that stuff is very much just our childhood growing up down here in the South. in the hymn book every Sunday, and even for me, like, you know, going to church on Sundays, because that's what everyone did. And then I would have the same kids at school. was like, you know, you go hear the sermon about how we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourself. And then you would go to school. Everyone's just a dick. it'd be like like did anyone else but it was it was like the church was just a social club and so but i you know i was i maybe i'm too stupid or or but i would go there i'm oh well this this sounds good we should love our neighbor and treat everyone with kindness that makes sense and then you would go to school and for sure it just would be the exact opposite of that and um it took me a long time after that to kind of realize that that was just kind of the culture you know that was that
01:20:08
Speaker
yeah what's what's that what's that quote like you know um baptists are like cats you know you know they're out there raising hell you just can't catch them you know like you can't catch them doing it they're just out there doing that but that and but now that that the other one too it's like how do you stop a baptist from from drinking your beer when you go fishing it's like just invite another one because they won't drink in front of each other it's like if it's just you they're like the hypocrisy is there but the second there's another one there they're like oh i have to pretend to act a certain way and I'm sure you've seen the news and it's a pretty common in our country these days that, you know, the the the scripture in their mouth and hate in their hearts, you know, that's that's the the current. like iil Yeah, I mean, that's part of the Southern Gothic vibe. I mean, like if you think about the South, i mean, it's a weird place, right? I mean, like it's a it's a conquered nation. I mean, they've lost a war, right? It's like I'm.
01:20:58
Speaker
35 minutes from a city that was sacked in a war, like Atlanta. Like, it's crazy. So, like, that's still... And then then you have, obviously, like, the the horror of of the the civil rights, ah ah the Jim Crow. i mean, there's just, like, there's a lot of, like, darkness down here that is, like, you have to reckon with, you know? And, like, so people have to, like...
01:21:16
Speaker
figure out their identity. And I mean, there's a stone mountain down the, down the road where has Confederate guys carved into it. Like it's still ah up today. Like it's shit's still weird down here. So like it's that Southern Gothic is kind of like reckoning and an understanding of like the grotesqueness of it.
01:21:32
Speaker
And also, you know, just kind of being like comfortable with it and understanding that, yeah, there's some ugly things that have happened, but there's some really cool things here too. And I think that's what the beauty of the the Southern Gothic is staring down that nastiness right down the barrel.
01:21:44
Speaker
Yeah. So I live, I live, like I said, I live in Kentucky, a rural town that actually has a statue of that memorial memorializes a Confederate, uh, or
Cultural Shock and Filming Experiences
01:21:54
Speaker
something like that. Oh, they're all over here.
01:21:56
Speaker
And so, yeah, that reconciliation, when I'm dealing with people, I get it. No, because in all, it's not reconciliation dealing with people. And I i shouldn't have said it that way. For me,
01:22:08
Speaker
Because I moved back this area like a couple of years ago from Oregon. So the culture shock was cool. but So me having to re-put myself in an area such as this, like I have, there's places where I have to like,
01:22:24
Speaker
mind my mouth or I could possibly literally but um ah I've already been threatened and been shot a couple times but yeah yeah i could I could probably yeah so so there is but at the same time there's so much natural beauty in this area that ah don't want to leave it for that so right it's yeah it's anon it's weird it's a weird place absolutely very weird that's very weird that's the day long universe for sure we talked about that
01:22:53
Speaker
Yeah, we just call it day-long country, and for whatever reason, like I think everyone's got their their own version of that. Even if you're being to you like in ohio and Idaho, like like every state almost has their own day-long country if you drive right outside too far outside of the city limits, you know but especially in the South, where we would film. you know At one point, we were filming...
01:23:11
Speaker
we're no more than probably two hours away from Atlanta, but you just, if you drive the wrong two hours, you're just in the middle of absolutely nowhere. It was just, you know, when Keith Carradine showed up to stay there and we had a hotel and he was like, he's like, you know, I was going to say something about the room, but I'm looking around, I'm assuming this is the Ritz-Carlton. like, yeah, like this is just like, we're the crew was staying at this summer camp called Camp Swamp.
01:23:36
Speaker
So we were down literally a summer camp. Not now. It wasn't a metaphor he was using. Yeah, no it was a so camp swamp. And that's where the crew is staying in these old, you know, trailers so yeah that may or may have had air conditioning. And the and the cast was in this neighborhood hotel.
01:23:51
Speaker
Yeah. But the hotel was I mean, it was the nicest thing you'd ever seen compared to where we were staying. I was like, Keith, I'm sorry, man, but this is literally as good as it gets. You know, there's no Airbnbs. There's nothing nicer than this place. not Even if we could afford it, we it wasn't out there.
01:24:04
Speaker
yeah yeah Yeah, exactly. It was not even the money. it was like, dude, even if we had all the money in the world, there's nothing out here. You can bring your own you know trailer, I guess, but this is this is it, dude. I figured he would have been at least used to the humanity since he did play Agent and Lundy. i I just had to bring that up. yeah Just real quick. but i But I have to ask, working with Keith, like just in a couple of interviews I saw, the dude seems like he's just fucking awesome.
Keith Carradine's Influence on Set
01:24:32
Speaker
He's the real deal, man. I love it when when the people that seem like they're cool actually are like really fucking kind of cool. ah Keith is really cool. Like as a human being, he came out, man, he just, he read the script and said, man, I've never seen anything like this. I want to be a part of it.
01:24:48
Speaker
He's like, he's like, I want to help you young kids out, you know, and stuff like that, which is awesome to have someone like him believe in the project. It's like, oh shit, like this is serious. Like, mean, Keith Carradine likes the movie. Maybe the movie is actually good, you know?
01:25:00
Speaker
it's like kind of shit you know It's exciting. And he was great. He came in a master craftsman and just like, yeah, I was taking notes, man. I wasn't directed as much as I was learning for sure. I was asking questions.
01:25:11
Speaker
nice Keith, if you hear this, like great job, but he didn't steal the thunder. Like he, he was part of the thunder, but he didn't steal any. Yeah. He met him. Yeah. No, I totally agree. He met cause they had brought so much energy.
01:25:25
Speaker
I mean, really the scene, one of the most disturbing scenes for me is when they're talking in his face, this long one, and that I, I do a wide lens and I smush their faces together, like absurdly. So, and it's just so uncomfortable. And then I just let it roll.
01:25:38
Speaker
And then I remember I was watching that scene and, you know, Keith is just kicking ass. He doesn't say a word for like, ah minute and a half and he's just like he's got the presence uh but then uh then brendan grabs him and he grabs him by the jaw and he goes give me an amen he goes hey man like i was so freaking skeeved out i mean we've been murdering people for weeks but that moment i was like gross it felt like we have to do that
01:26:06
Speaker
That's definitely going in. Yeah. And I think that improv. That was your, that was your move, man. That was a hundred percent improv. yeah yeah Well, you but you can't, you can win Keith lays the groundwork. I mean, Keith is yeah it's all on Keith making that comfort on set.
01:26:22
Speaker
Cause he landed in like on set. And the first thing he wanted to do was talk to Nick and go over the music. And the second thing he wanted to do was take his boys to dinner. And so he took us all out to dinner so that we could all actually get to know each other the night before we had to shoot so that there would be that comfort on set. There wasn't the standoffish of like, oh, I'm going to grab Keith Carradine. It was like, no, I'm grabbing my dad.
01:26:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's weird. too i'm grab I'm grabbing this. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Got it. Got it. Some weird words in there. yeah yeah london threat got it ah map with some weird words in there Man, that's the them so so fun.
01:27:05
Speaker
Yeah. Something like that showing up, but definitely, you know, i want, you know, you want to say something like, Oh, he snapped everyone into attention, but they were already there. i mean, he really just, he showed up and as much as I want to say like, Oh, and then we just got on our a game. We we really didn't do much different. We were there. we were so, so dialed in by that point to what we were doing. And we were so, um,
01:27:28
Speaker
it was just just a friendly environment around that I think he just picked up on that immediately and just met the energy. He didn't, he didn't take it up. He didn't take it down. he met us right where we were and delivered and, and saw how good, um, Brendan, Nikon and Jordan were. And yeah he even told me, he's like, man i you know, I, know, you don't know what you're getting into, but I, you know I saw,
01:27:48
Speaker
that first monologue where i'm just sitting there between these guys and i'm like crap i gotta i gotta bring my a-game to this these guys and but luckily keith i mean he he he knew his lines inside now he knew the song and he showed up he was only there for a couple days but he was completely prepared he was the last person we cast was the last minute trying to cast like the right person and so But he showed up like off book, ready to go, sang the song, knew everything and just and had this biggest smile on his face in between takes. The nicest person that I've met. right yeah His presence was it felt like a and felt like a blessing. Like we were blessed by the film gods of like, you are doing good And like, this is a positive thing to do because it was like we're out there fighting for our fricking lives out there for weeks, you know?
01:28:30
Speaker
And then he shows up and it's like, okay, like this, we have belief. This is like something cool. And like, and it was really fun too, is like these guys, that was, I mean, that's the most important scene in the movie, right? And it's like 20 minutes of just yapping, just,
01:28:42
Speaker
Just people talking to each other, right? It's supposed to be the climax, but we've dunked the movie and they have to just hang in there. And they, they like the brothers came in, but they had, they were hot. They were, they were built in, they were designed out. And then Keith shows up and just to watch those two collide.
01:28:58
Speaker
uh and then just get to capture it on camera was an absolute f freaking blast because it was just they're printing magic you're just watching it just i'm just just capturing what they're doing you know it it was uh it was a ah blessed experience it was really really cool it was really really cool and just to see them just dial in take after take we were just like they were just in it for so long so yeah it was a lot of really cool momentum good vibes he knew music too i mean he his his family history and his story like i mean he would just tell stories and like You know, we've all been around people that name drop and just kind of like, okay, but he would tell these stories about the biggest names ever. But when he would say it, he's like, oh, I'm doing this show and me and Bobby are out there. And then it's Willie. I'm like, I'm 99% sure he means Bob Dylan and Willie Nelson. I think that's, and then like, yeah, that's what he meant. Yeah.
01:29:46
Speaker
he just knew but that's but that's his whole life yeah he was just talking normal yeah yeah yeah but it was it was like oh yeah you know and it was so funny he picked up my guitar he's like i have this exact same guitar and mine is mine is like 20 serial numbers before this and you know he sent me picture of it later on yep there it is he has the same one wow He's like the most real deal salt of the earth guy that there is, man. yeah nick Nick and Keith got, they, they bonded. They, they were some magic sparks going on in the creative. just get out of the way and just let them just, ah you know, do their magic. it was awesome.
01:30:19
Speaker
we had sag When we were at the SAG screening and Q&A, before we went on, yeah Keith has been to Nick's ear about help producing future music.
Improvisation and Scene Creation
01:30:31
Speaker
Like he's like, oh, I didnt want to get you in on this stuff.
01:30:34
Speaker
Yeah. yeah It's insane. Like, he's just like, oh, yeah, you're family now. Like, come in. Let's write more music together. Hell yeah. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. yeah was great experience He definitely like it. I mean, he's got, you know he'll tell you he's got like two lives, you know, that one was living life a certain way. And then he got, you know, remarried later in life and had it. I mean, when he was on day long, he just he had a a two year old son.
01:30:57
Speaker
And so, like, I mean, he just had a, you know, child. Wow. He had, like, you know, like i'm really like a first family and a first life. And then kind of they grew up and moved out. And he kind of kept doing his thing. And then he got married again and then ended up having a child later. And so, like, he just – it is like looking at, like, a new dad but through the lens of a 75-year-old guy. It's like he he just – he is so grateful for the life that he has and so grateful that he's getting a chance to do it again. And just, you know, you just – Yeah, you just feel that being around him. that He's just so excited to be doing these things.
01:31:31
Speaker
Yeah, and he he hauled his ass for two hours from the airport and flew out to the middle nowhere. I mean, he he put in he put in the effort. It was not an easy shoot. He went all the way out there. so it was ah Yeah, they especially just for just for, you know, ah essentially just a few minutes in a move. yeah you know yeah yeah yeah would been like Yeah, it wasn't this big thing. Yeah, it was awesome. But it was it it was all that mattered for us, you know, for sure.
01:31:55
Speaker
yeah We knew if that we don't have the end we don't have a movie, we didn't land it. The movie was over. No matter how good it was, if we couldn't get that emotional hit. It was it was done. so So I was pretty awesome. Well, right. you just talk about him for the whole first two acts and then he shows up at the end.
01:32:09
Speaker
Right. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah And that was and that was the cool thing about it was watching the movie and it was like building up like, you know, they're going to get their hands on him eventually.
01:32:20
Speaker
Yeah. but in and and And the suspense builds because you're like, what does he look like? What is he going to be like? you know yeah you know what What is it that this dude gave his three unborn sons souls away for?
01:32:35
Speaker
And to see where he was and how he looked. And I don't want to give too much away for anybody who hasn't seen the movie yet. But to see it's just like, wow, you did all that.
01:32:46
Speaker
for this. and you know But it all makes sense if you when you watch the movie why he is where he is and yeah and and and everything. so ah yeah mean From start to finish. That was the design. That was awesome. man we we wanted it It was like ah the the final boss of the video game. and was Everything pointed to this big moment and then we just pulled the rug out and just you have to deal with it.
01:33:07
Speaker
It just spirals out. That was the other thing. That was the goal. That was the other thing. I'm like, yeah that was the other thing i'm like i was kind of a letdown was really expecting something big here yeah yeah yeah but just it's like devolving and it goes off tracks and it just keeps getting just more unhinged yeah yeah completely completely off the rails but then you you know you bring it back around with that with that final scene and and and whatnot and and it's like oh cliffhanger yes it's fun yeah it definitely it gets heavy it gets heavy there for a while and and um
01:33:44
Speaker
Yeah, it was very, it was a very intentional risk to go, okay, we don't have, and it wasn't like i would, you know, that the cop out is like, oh, we didn't have money to do big fights. And it really wasn't that we could have figured that out. It was like, we want to find a way to, to,
01:33:58
Speaker
you know, i I wrote a song i actually didn't make in the film called Trustworthy Man.
Songwriting Themes of Trust and Betrayal
01:34:02
Speaker
And it was this idea that you can trust the devil because he will always lie to you and he will always have your, the worst interest at heart. Yeah. well Like I'm going to do everything I can to make this miserable for you. And so because of that, you can actually trust me because I'm going to do something bad. And so that was this idea that we had that like, you know, when, when, when he goes to sell his soul and all this stuff, it's like everything he got was, you know,
01:34:24
Speaker
what does he say? you know, everyone thinks I pull one ah over on the delves, like, but I didn't get anything except I asked him. He's just like, Oh, okay. You want to sing the blues. Okay, cool. I can help you with that. Here's the worst life imaginable. Enjoy. you Um,
01:34:40
Speaker
Is that song out and recorded or anywhere, or is it still on? Ooh, yeah. No, that was on my hard drive somewhere. That not the fan right there, boy. He said, hey, I want to hear that. Yeah, that was on my hard drive somewhere. I forgot about that. Give it to me. Give it to me, man.
01:34:56
Speaker
Yeah, I want to get to Nick. Yeah, let's let's make it happen. I want to hear it. I want to get to i want to get to you, Nick, obviously. ah you know yeah You're a music guy, and and the Bright Brothers, and everything like that. You know, what do you, what do you got going on music wise?
01:35:11
Speaker
Where can people find you outside of the movie? Cause obviously the movie has all your music in it. But where can people, you know, what are you doing on the music side of things outside of the movie? I mean, honestly, i mean, Brandon and I, our company, Whistone, like, I put music out every while. They're usually, like, grumpy protest songs. But, like, all the Brothers Bright stuff really just ended up being, um you know, we we just wanted to put music in film. Like, kind of like the Sherman Brothers from the Disney days. Like, there was just this songwriting troupe that was part of the thing. And so that's kind of how we always were. And we needed ah needed a name for it. So the Brothers Bright was just something we had to call ourselves for the – we wanted to have a consistency so that every time you put out a film, it just wasn't –
01:35:51
Speaker
We wanted to like, oh, Brendan is a guest of this thing, you know, and next one we do, whoever's in that one, there'll be a guest of this of this family that's going to keep this, you know, these songwriting troops going on. So the Brothers Bride is just that's pretty much what that is.
01:36:03
Speaker
and Anything with my name on it is either going to be, you know, some kind of film score that I've done. or it's going to be, like i said, I'll put out you know ah a protest song or something like that every once in a while just to just to keep the old ax sharp and you know write my wife a song or something like that. but that's more That's more of that side. But but right now, like i said, we're doing that. I'm working on the next film. So I've been writing and writing love songs. It's very very very sh you know hard right turn from the stories, from the songs of day long, for sure. But it's fun. I love that though. i love I love jumping from thing to thing to thing. it it's it keeps
01:36:35
Speaker
it keeps it fun. If I to do the same thing over and over and over, I'd probably get pretty bored, but I like the challenge of having to do, well, let's write a love song now. Can you make like something happier? so it's fun. Yeah, no, I, I dig that. I dig that. Well,
01:36:49
Speaker
All right, well, then the all the more reason to do a, you know, we're not going to say a ah so a sequel. We're going to say a day-long brothers franchise. Yeah, man. I mean, india I got origin stories. We got
Future Projects and Sequels
01:37:02
Speaker
sequels for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. like can we Can we get, can each brother get an origin story? I i would like like two or three-ish.
01:37:08
Speaker
Sorry, Ish is my favorite. I'm not, um I will be biased here. Ish is my favorite. That's my guy. Can we get like three or four-ish movies? Yeah, man. I would do that. We need him in the ah Appalachian before he, he will lead the journey of him going to find each of the brothers. So there's gotta be, yeah, yeah. The movie where he goes and gets Enoch and the movie where he goes and gets.
01:37:30
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to give you the first. two minutes of the day-long sequel. All right? Yes. going to pitch it right here. Okay? It's definitely not going to be this, but this is what I have in my head, right? So you open up.
01:37:43
Speaker
ah You open up. it's ah It's a dark and rainy night, and it's you are in Bonaventure Cemetery in Savannah, one of the oldest cemeteries in the world. I know the cemetery well. Here comes Grace. Boom. Right through the right through the gates, right?
01:37:54
Speaker
Driving through, right? And then you realize you go into the car, and it's actually Enoch driving without Ish, without anybody. None of his brothers are there. He's on a mission. He pulls over in front of this big mausoleum and he pulls out a pickaxe and he pulls out a bag and he's talking to someone and he's yapping away. And then he reaches into his bag and he pulls out Frankie's skull, which has a bullet hole right in the center.
01:38:17
Speaker
And he talks to it and she talks back to him as a ghost. And so he's being haunted by Frankie. And he's and then we realize he is at the day long mausoleum where his great grandfather was for whatever thing. And then up to opening credits. So that's all I have. That's my pitch. I like weird I like it. Thank you. Awesome. Some, some, uh, yeah.
01:38:38
Speaker
yeah got You got to bring Frankie back somehow. ah you know she would do that no yeah no absolutely's She's too good not to bring back. I even talked to Raina about this. Her sister is an incredible actress. Obviously, we all know her sister, but I was like, that's a perfect example. As you're a day-long sister, we can get her sister in there to be part of it. They could be a day-long sister for sure. don't know who her sister Margaret Qualley.
01:39:05
Speaker
and margaret quaey
01:39:09
Speaker
from, let's see, she was in Once po time once Upon a Time in Hollywood. She's blowing up. She's she's in the substance. yes She was nominated for an Oscar this year for the substance show. yeah yeah She's done so let's just doing a couple little things.
01:39:23
Speaker
yeah that i and book come a little bit i am not i am not cut up I am not caught up with her. Oh, shit, that's her sister, Pussycat, from Once Upon a Time? yes oh yeah that's awesome yeah sorry i love that i love that movie yeah that's great yeah yeah yeah i rip him off and they're like and they're like you know they're best friends you know she just got i think they're both just now getting married but they were roommates i think she read audition um so when you see uh rain's audition i was like i recognize this voice but it's just her sister reading audition they're
01:40:00
Speaker
They're like big fans of each other. so but but Yeah, they're awesome.
Importance of Casting and Performance
01:40:03
Speaker
They're so close. Yeah, they're amazing. yeah she But i I did ask Rainey. I don't – I'm like, hey, can she sing? She was like, I think so. So well who knows? She can dance. I know that. That was her thing. Maybe she can the dance. Even Rainey's been in a lot of other good things.
01:40:19
Speaker
Yeah, Rainey's always working. Rainey's got stuff going on for sure. All these guys. um Every time I see these guys, I'm i'm grumpy that they're not – um household names because I just, you know, i've worked with all kinds of people. And when I walked off the set a day long, I was like, I just, I'm sure there's other, there's other things, other people that are just as good, but I don't think there's anyone better than this. You know what mean? Like, like you're not looking around going, well, I think I'm like a better, you know, I'd like a better ish or a better need. No, it's like, no there's different variations of that, but there's investment in that cast, you know, right here. Right here.
01:40:57
Speaker
but that's But that's the truth, though. It's like I just walk off set thinking this is as good as it gets. you know You're just going to get different variations of this, but we're not going to go up some next level and find better talent like these guys. Yeah, usually. And when you're Yeah, i'd like to to do put it bluntly, when you're independent filmmaking, you can only afford certain things and certain people.
01:41:18
Speaker
And so sometimes when you're starting out, you don't have the highest talent, you know? And you're like, ah, like you feel like you're limited by this on-screen talent, you know? it's just an excuse to tell yourself because you're really bad, but like you just say, all the actors are bad.
01:41:29
Speaker
um So like... Brendan, plug your one know but Every filmmaker gets it. I mean, you've done this and you know that's how you start out. But like when you get to a point where I feel like it's a privilege to get to work with craftsmen where I'm like like, I'm not sitting here going, is it going to be good or bad, right? like That's usually like, oh, is it a good or bad take? It's just more of like, what's the best version? like you know were Now we're just experimenting and playing and there's not a good or bad. It's just better in like what we like. And that's like,
01:41:59
Speaker
That's a whole different game when you're directing. It's like this collaboration versus like trying to get the actor to not be bad. You know, ah you get to like just collaborate and I love it. And so, yeah, this i was a gift for me to be able to have my entire cast were absolutely brilliant. I had to keep up with them.
01:42:14
Speaker
And so it was ah it was, ah you know, just absolutely delightful. And, i you know, and I know what it's like to the other way around. So, you know, it's just. um I appreciate that greatly. That is what's madding though. You're like, I just, I look at them and go I don't understand how every casting director has not picked all these guys up and put them in everything. you It drives me crazy.
01:42:34
Speaker
There's so many, and there's so many things out there being made. I'm like, there's, you know, yeah. Anyway. Yeah. that's That's the thing. if You know, I couldn't, i you know, if you see the guys, you know, Brendan, if we see you in something else down the road, which I hope we do, in all honesty, yeah it's going to be that game that we, you know, that everybody plays when you're watching a movie or television show.
01:42:59
Speaker
Where do i know that guy from? Yeah. know you're ah You're always going to be ish, man. Like, like yeah that's you know, work for glad for the for fans like me, you're always going to be ish to me.
01:43:11
Speaker
and And down the line, say there's five movies. if If Brandon and Nick decide that they're going to, you know, get another actor to play Ish. Well, unless you said you didn't want to be Ish anymore. I will murder someone. right I will murder someone. It would be a weird one. I'm coming to Georgia and I'm burning your houses down.
01:43:29
Speaker
And the same thing is for Abe and Enoch. You can't replace the brothers without at this point. like no It's like Robert Downey Jr. playing Iron Man. It's iconic. There's nothing else. You can't imagine someone else playing that. yeah that's That's for sure, Brendan.
01:43:46
Speaker
For sure. You're so good, Brendan. ran You're so good. like you say um yeahll i'll I'll Venmo you all after the interview. ah yeah no you can You guys can catch Brendan.
01:43:58
Speaker
Brendan did voiceover for a video game, Resident Evil. so it fors the i mean and the And the performance for for Resident Evil. um oh that was my That was my COVID survival job. um Because it turns out that like the I don't know if I can talk about. Oh, man. Oh,
01:44:16
Speaker
ah I did a lot of different things on that movie or during on that video game during COVID because not everybody was available because COVID. So um I ended up basically spending my whole COVID alone in a warehouse wearing the performance capture dots and oh lot of that video game, which was very fun.
01:44:36
Speaker
But ah my most my other most recent movie is with Ron Perlman, and it's called Succubus. And speaking of like ballsy independent films that you either enter out in the first couple seconds, it starts as a screen movie.
01:44:48
Speaker
So the whole first 20 minutes is two takes using a cell phone and a laptop. And then I get sucked into the world of the computer and then we go full cinematic.
01:45:00
Speaker
And the rest of the movie is a hybrid between the mixed media of the actual diegetic devices and then the cinematic filmmaking. The cinematics looks fucking awesome.
01:45:12
Speaker
It's rad. Jimmy was the cinematographer on that. And it's pet what he, what he pulled off in 14 days with no budget is insane. It's got this, this wash to it. It just brings down the mood.
01:45:24
Speaker
And, in the aesthetic kind of way though.
Upcoming Collaborations and Films
01:45:28
Speaker
I'm looking at, as you're talking about it, I looked it up on IMDb and I'm looking at screenshots. I'm like, I know what I'm watching. Yeah. yeah Yeah. Yeah. I love Ron Perlman.
01:45:39
Speaker
I love Ron Perlman. Another legend. i'm i've I've been very lucky to work with a lot of legends. you guys know about the cancer movie he was short movie he was in? Which one?
01:45:52
Speaker
It's called Laundry Day. You guys remember Thomas Jane playing the Punisher? Yes. yeah and There's a short film on YouTube called Laundry Day. I think it came out in 2013. It reprises the Punisher role. It's not called Punisher.
01:46:06
Speaker
doesn't At the end, it ties in the Punisher, but that's what he's playing. Ron Perlman's It's like a 10-minute short film. Ron Perlman's in it. It's dope. i I've never met Ron, but we did a short with Doug Jones years ago who plays... um what's his name and, and, and, and Abe's in the Hellboy, Abe Sapien and Hellboy film. So it's, so it's, so it's Ron Perlman's, you know, it's Hellboy's partner.
01:46:33
Speaker
And he would tell the stories about Ron, but you know, Doug is the literal Swedish person on the planet. But I feel like we have this weird Hellboy connection now with Brendan and our, and our stable too. One degree away from Hellboy.
01:46:45
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. maybe Six degrees of Brendan. Guys think he get Ron Perlman to play the devil? you we cut yeah don need You want me to text him? I'll text him right now. but so Let's it. Let's go. Yeah. i lock yeah ah Brandon's like, ooh.
01:47:05
Speaker
I can do it. He's like, I'm in I think if we made a I'll write the script tomorrow. Yeah. I think there was a series, you would have a different actor play the devil in each episode. Hell yeah. Like a shape-shifting thing. and You just get a different A-lister each time. Ooh. I get an idea, you know?
01:47:25
Speaker
And then we'll do it and I'll pay credit for it. That would be great. Yeah. yeah But yeah, everyone needs to check out the Yeah, everyone check out the music for the showdown and the Daylong brothers face-to-face with the devil. Oh, man. Oh, man. That would be great.
01:47:41
Speaker
and We talked about like a series, how to do that. Like, yo do you do a song every episode? Or like how does that work? Yeah, we've had all those all those discussions for sure. But I think everyone out there needs to do everything they can to check out Brendan Bradley, Nike and Robinson, Jordan Bolden, Qualey, Mark Ashworth, Mark Ashworth, Clarence in front of ours, just one of those beautiful people on the face of the earth.
01:48:05
Speaker
he's um He's the guy that plays Clarence. He's just an unbelievable human being and just... such a great actor and an improviser and just he's like just just a killer dude man he's so fun i just want to take a minute to shout out clarence because not the biggest role in the movie but he was a big deal in the movie yeah and it's just such a fun like Like you wanted the son of a bitch to get what he deserved, but also at the same time, you know, when he when he first come up and and when they first when you guys first introduced him and it was just like, I hate this guy already.
01:48:45
Speaker
Yeah. I like you at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. No, love it. That's Mark doing such a great job too. Just bringing that character. Mark. I remember he said, can have Coke now?
01:48:58
Speaker
And I was like, okay. It was like, except you look, he's got this long cut for no reason other than he's like, I don't know. just think it'll play. So it's, but First time I worked with Mark, it was, I worked with Mark years ago. I was but a child and he was doing this role of a janitor. it was just a small thing.
01:49:13
Speaker
And he came in limping and i was like, what's up? Are you good? he's like, oh yeah, put a rock in my shoe to make my limp feel more real. I'm like, fuck man, what? Okay. Wow. Okay. That's acting. Okay. That was my first thing.
01:49:25
Speaker
Well, that's awesome. So, yeah, just that's the kind of guy he is. He puts in ah he puts in effort. and and Oh, just I mean, a testament as a human being. he was it the first time we actually saw him. He was an extra on a wake of sleeper. We did like a music video kind of thing. And he was just an extra. Just one guy amongst, you know, two of these these kind of um like almost like chain gang members.
01:49:45
Speaker
and just just hanging around on set and talking to him as a human being i was like this is like the nicest person in the world such a humble guy but you know the the role of an extra on this thing was not like he's having to do much heavy lifting but then we found out like he would just kind of go into character and sing and be goofy and we're like we can see he wants to do something else and so we put him in that and then it was then it turned into like what all can we put mark i put him in everything yeah and so when we when we were doing this um doing this film when we were casting it And we got an audition from someone that we really liked. And I was like, man, this is, you know, that this is a really cool, we we we were going to probably offer him the role.
01:50:19
Speaker
And then our casting director, Erica Hey, we've got one more group of auditions to come in for Clarence. And Mark was in there. And Mark was a friend of ours who knew he actually, we did a table read like for friends and family. And Mark came and read that part of ish actually he was just because he's a friend of ours. so And so I'm like, all right, we already had a Clarence that we like, but let's see what he does
Casting Decisions and Challenges
01:50:37
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as Clarence. And like, he,
01:50:39
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Brian and I call each other and we were like, son of a bitch won. like He won the part. and And I never met him. He won the part. But the fact that it was Mark was like, yes, we got Mark in the movie. It's like this thing. You could get to work. It was such a great joy. Yeah, it was zero percent we had cast him because he was our buddy. Like I would. yep we were like zero committed to like, listen, we got it It's just like by merit.
01:51:02
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And yeah, Nick and I were like, holy shit. how He just whooped everyone's ass. Like, okay, Mark. He did it. He did it. so Yeah, it was awesome. So yeah, good on Mark, man. He's such great guy. Y'all even talked to him one day. He's so funny. Yeah, he's he's a hilarious ski get him on your ah Get him on your show. Yeah, Adam, he would love to do it. He's like, he loves you. I'm sitting there looking at his things.
01:51:21
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I just was about to say he is. He's been the time. Oh, yeah. Go to IMDb and pack a lunch. Yeah, he's the – That's what I'm doing right now. Yeah, yeah he's the – yeah yeah climb up i would say i would say anybody you guys want to send our way.
01:51:36
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you know yeah he and i have talked about it i know I know do the music show, but you know we're not going to turn down any opportunities, whether it's on my show or Blaze's nonsense and show Blaze. you know We're like, hey whatever you know whatever opportunities come our way, feel free to send anybody our way and we'll make it work, whether it's on here or it's on Blaze's show. and and I love that because you know Marcus Clarence he wasn't and he didn't absolutely steal the scene but he made the scene so much better you know like just because he's a little over the top just a little extra and just it was just it was just perfect and that that that scene towards the end what i'm like you like i didn't hate the guy until then
01:52:26
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And now when I see him again and and he's first introduced, I'm like, you sorry son of a bitch. oh Yeah. yeah they'm gonna get and and yeah He shows up, I'm assuming, to kind of like trick. He's definitely a bit of a right here. He tricks the audience. But then when you finally meet him and you realize, like yeah, anyone that's working for the devil is not to be trusted This is not going to be a guy. So when he gets at when he gets and in his comfortable skin and gets to be his kind of like, you know,
01:52:54
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That kind of character, man. he just I had such such a fun time watching him. you know Yeah, and and and to go and to go back like you guys said, you know even even the opening scene, the actors you had in there from the the drunk guys to the waitress.
01:53:10
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Oh, Adam Boyer and Kate Kovach. Absolutely. We've worked with them for a bajillion years. They're the ones I can fit them in for sure. I love them. Yeah.
01:53:21
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Shout out, shout out to Kate. She did, she did follow us on the, on the Instagram page. So shout out to her. Even, even those, even those, even those small roles. I mean, they, yeah they fit, they were perfect in, in that scene, you know, you know, whatever scenes they were in, it was, it was perfect. So, i mean, you guys did a fantastic job with casting.
01:53:43
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Again, ah Blaze knows I've been talking to Blaze for the last couple of weeks. i've I've been so excited for this. I've been nervous. I'm like, i don't want to completely figure out, you know, like, oh, no way. there's what youre me that yeah We're going to hang up. going to go back to being unemployed and no one giving a shit. So I'm so excited. I appreciate it very much. So thank you.
01:54:07
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yeah we did yeah know We wanted people to enjoy, you know. so you know I reached out to Nick and he was, and and i I hate, sometimes text is interpreted wrong.
01:54:18
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And I was like, obviously I wanted Nick here. But I think across the text, it came across like, I just wanted the brothers. And he was like, and I'll be there too. And I'm like, yeah, absolutely.
01:54:31
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i was like well i gotta to find them but you know getting getting track of everyone's difficult sometimes like it's just how it is you know everyone's doing their thing it's it's a thing that's right ish is she's the only brother i was worried about there you go yeah that's great fan fanboy number one yeah i love it you gotta do ish cosplay all right you gotta do ish cosplay for your uh you know from the con Yeah, you know. You already got the beard. You already got the beard.
01:54:57
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There you go. because i Listen. You guys, you guys start to come up. I may, bre and Brendan, I may show up as ish. I'm just saying. all right Please do. You would be the second. Yeah, there was one. Nick's mom dressed up as ish on Halloween. We had a film on Halloween.
01:55:13
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she My mom is a retired nurse. She's a retired nurse. And so we needed a medic for a few days and like, Hey mom you want to come out and just be on set and you can, you know, if they don't get stung by B and that kind of thing.
01:55:25
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He's like, all right. So she comes out there and then um ended up staying almost the whole time. She just had a blab. She's retired. She's like, I have nothing to do. So she just kind of watched this and had fun. And then Yeah, we we literally filmed on halloween um Halloween night and everyone showed up in costume and she was dressed as ish. She just had the whole costume. i life it wass amazing that is was really yeah That is her in a nutshell, man. That's what she it's Amazing. and that's bla ab Blaze, I know what I'm doing for Halloween this year.
01:55:51
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ah oh boy. Oh, boy. I love it. I'll dress up as Frankie. I'll put you up to my wall. Yes.
01:56:02
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Yes. know and I like it. It's both Joyce and I respect it. Wait, Glick, are you going to go for Tidy Whities are you going to go for the Gene Jackson? yeah, which ish, right, yeah. Tidy Whities. Tidy Whities. Pretty iconic.
01:56:15
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I was going to say the Tidy Whities are iconic, and I am back in and back in the gym. So if I
01:56:28
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Wow, this is going to sound weird, but I'm going to say it anyways. I'm going to put a picture up on my wall of you and the Tidy Whities, and that's going to be my goal for Halloween. I love this. This is very special. This is only wall I've ever been on, and it's the only wall I want to be on. Although, when we were shooting that scene, we were in a real body shop, and the owner of that body shop just took like a kinship to me. He just thought we were like yeah kindred spirits. So he took me through all of his porn collection. Wow.
01:56:59
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that was scattered throughout this body shop. And and we're talking like old porn. Like if you'd touched these pages, they would have disintegrated in your fingers. Like it's probably valuable now, right? Like it's like, it's like, it's well so i i don' add bit um they're a bit too used to be collectors. parado use yeah You know, you know, I didn't think about it until now. I blaze. I think ish might be my spirit animal.
01:57:28
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um yeah i've got just like the second you said that brendan i have the picture i'm looking at it right now where where like again he's never been on a movie he has no idea about um how a film setter goes but he just walks up to brendan in between takes he's come here and look at this And I got a in a picture of him with that. Like, you know, your classic body shop with a girl calendar. And he just he's doing this. And Brendan's just kind of sitting there looking at him. It's an amazing picture. I wish I could like drop it in the chat or something. It's so funny. you want If you want to if you want to send it over in the email, Blaze, if you can, if you can, you grab it out of the email.
01:58:06
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I know you're pretty quick here. um Speaking of which, I was going to ask you, um, yeah You sent me over the outtakes, obviously, i want to or the ah the diner scene. I would love to share that with the guys. I was trying to pull it.
01:58:19
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i was trying to put it into the assets, but it's ah it's a little bit too big to go into. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. yeah so um but if it's hard with you guys uh outside of sharing it with the guys we'll you know would love to share it as part of yeah you know some of the some of the stuff that we're we'll put together down the road with with with having you guys on here but ah like i said yeah i know i i started to say and i was like yeah this is gonna sound really weird but yeah absolutely at least we gotta find a halloween party so i'm gonna go that was such a great
01:58:53
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It was such a great scene. Such a random scene of them in the in the in the in the in the garage. And it just just was like, what is happening here?
01:59:04
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And it's like, little Al. So he's not so little, though. It's a joke. Well, it's not funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not very funny. yeah You're not very funny. We just need some comedy right there as well because we're in such a dark night of the soul for the characters and it's nice to have just some absurdity and get back to the like idiocy of the brothers before we go on the next chapter.
01:59:26
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fine Exactly. it That's the great thing about it because you you have you and and and and in Enoch ah and you guys are doing your thing and then Abe's just being Abe.
01:59:38
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yeah and You guys are having your back and forth and he comes out with with the with the record and everything. and you guys are You two are still going back and forth while he's in super serious mode.
01:59:50
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Awesome. I love it. all right so I have that picture uploaded. Yes. It's porn viewing time. That one's set with Tom. Two-man party over there. Look at this. it or in view and some yeah that's that one said with man party over there but he was like one play ah but like I have to get this because it was just so was is so funny. Yeah. so good yeah But he was giving me turkey. He was giving me homemade moonshine. like me and I were about to become best friends.
02:00:20
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yeah but look You can see Nike in the back there just looking at his phone. you know He wasn't privy to the other calendar. This is the good old boy that owned all the buses, all that bus area that we filmed at. That's same his that's his garage. so It was a huge hole.
02:00:35
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It huge album. I feel like the conversation went a little like, hey, boy, come here. Let me show you something over here. Hey, you ever seen some of these? You ever seen some of these?
02:00:50
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It's just just so funny. Even now, it's like it just I was watching it happen. I'm like, what is what is he doing? And he's just showing him a girl girly cat, a pinup calendar, okay?
02:01:01
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yeah We got to fake. We got to get back to six. And that's what day-long country is like. It really is. With indie filmmaking, you just never know what the arrangement is. so I'm also just like, look, this is his guy.
02:01:18
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This is this guy's shop. I don't want to get us kicked out of this location. 100%. Yeah, no. We were like, please, you have to like make him happy you see you can kick us off at any moment. 100%. He took one for the team. Yeah, for sure. yeah I love this. Hey, boys.
02:01:32
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Hey, boy, you ever seen Miss July 1945? here, let show you something real quick. I made it myself.
02:01:42
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but i've made him myself I also have a whole slew of pictures of Brendan and his tighty-whities, but those are, I promise him they will never see line of day, but I was on set taking pictures. Or can pay something for OnlyFans or something. Brendan can send them to you if he wants. There's a royalty that goes with those, but yeah. like Yeah, I don't know. How would Ish's OnlyFans go? Is that my ah yeah
02:02:03
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semi side hustle? Nick, I'll never tell him if you accidentally send me four or five of them. I i need them for inspiration for Halloween. Yeah.
02:02:16
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like pass even four i sense you won didn't i when we were doing the when we're doing the promotion i was again you know when when the distributor was asking us for like hey do you have any like fun behind scenes stuff i was like i have a lot of stuff i don't know how much that you can use you know it's pretty inappropriate but that was i was like i know i've got these somewhere and i think i sent you one i'm like here it is i haven't showed any anybody but here it is because it's like I think i I was just used to taking pictures because that's what you do like you know when you're a producer on set. If everything's going smoothly, the producer doesn't have a lot to do. You're like, well, the plan that we executed is happening, so I'm just watching it, so I would take pictures. You didn't have a lot to do. You edited an entire soundtrack. I know.
02:02:56
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That day, I was taking a picture. Yeah, no, he had multiple roles. Yeah. But I took a picture of – when I took that picture Brenda, could see his face like, uh, and I was like, oh, my bad. Well, yeah, I won't show anybody. Yeah.
02:03:08
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Just blur his face out. He's half-ish, and at the same time, he's like, do need to go murder you now? was like, no. Like I said, Nick, he'll never know. That's right.
02:03:21
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I'm just going to make it as my a or my ah my profile pic, Brendan. Like on Instagram, I'm just going to put your whitey tighties. Or just crop out the whitey tighties. No one will know who it is. Yeah, just of underwear. You don't know who's bulgy it is, And if you comp complain, like, that was me. I did it later. You don't know who this is. yeah there's no There's no redeeming moles or freckles right there. It's just it's just the whitey tighties. It could be anyone's whitey tighties, Brennan.
02:03:48
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Why do you think they're yours? Anybody. Definitely. as ah as ah As a single guy, it be an interesting conversation piece. Like, why do you have Pictures of a dude in his underwear in your bathroom. is the wireries Why don't you? Yeah, why don't know how don't you?
02:04:05
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but Yeah, I do. like ah Hashtag goals. What's your problem? Yes, absolutely. yeah get get Get on my level, man. i want to look I want to look this insane, but completely normal at the same time.
02:04:22
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I want to circle back. I want to circle back to something real quick that was mentioned. I know this is totally off track. I'm going off track. It's been in the back of my mind. I'm geeking out over it.
02:04:34
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Brandon, tell me about your beer making, my friend. My beer making? Yes. Yeah. Hell yeah. i bre Brendan is a home brewer. So right there. I i was a home brewer for many, many years. And I had to, I had to give up home brewing, um unfortunately, but I used to take a five gallon sparklets container. You know, the thing they like you put on the water cooler in an office.
02:04:57
Speaker
Mm Yeah. And I would get that filled up and then I would cork it and then I would I would make a different mash every month and that would get you approximately 200 beers. And they'd come out to like 15 cents a piece and you would either have a really good batch or you would have a very sad batch. So there was a pumpkin ah mash that I made once that tasted like chewing tobacco.
02:05:18
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Yeah. which was regrettable. um Not great. um And then i i did a ah I did a gluten-free kind of Hefeweizen that I called Glue Moon because it was gluten-free Blue Moon.
02:05:33
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ah not i was really into some porters for a while. i love an IPA, especially with a Mosaic hop, so that's always going to be something I cycled in. a huge APA guy, yes.
02:05:46
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yeah Do you like the West Coast style or the hazy? I West Coast style. I will. I do like hazy, but I am more West Coast style. That's where I kind of learned. I just like how, I like the clean hit.
02:05:57
Speaker
Yes. Yes. I like, I like the, I like the hops to dance without any interruption. um Well, that is poetic. That is far further than I was going to take it. i on the on the I love, I love, yeah I love good tasting beer. I am a, I'm a, i'm if I'm in a new place and there's a brewery I've never heard of, it's like, let's go. Always.
02:06:20
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Always. um and say You said you stopped. you stop? piece of it I mean, it's a sad story, but I was in the, ah I was in the Eaton fires in Pasadena earlier this year.
02:06:33
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Oh, I don't know what that is. Oh, about 87% of a city in California burndown. when you phrase it like that, that didn't click. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I feel like dick now. No worries. That's why made it funny.
02:06:48
Speaker
i feel like a dick now no yeah know it's fine no worries you know you knew that's why i made it funny yeah get please do not watch Glicks House of Music do you not watch Glicks House of Music Jules and I talked all about it a very good friend of ours I know about I know I know of the fires I know of the fires I do i knew of the fires from a different perspective yeah yeah know but yeah look it happened to 12,000 families we consider ourselves really really lucky but like it it means that basically like um everything in my life is going there gotcha gotcha gotcha
02:07:26
Speaker
So the beer is the least of your worries, basically. yeah Yeah. I can get more beer. I can figure that part out. All right. same For anyone watching, you can send Brendan beer money at his Venmo. Yeah.
02:07:40
Speaker
I would take that. i ah yeah There's buymeacoffee.com, but there isn't buymeabeer.com. think I think we're about to invent it, boys. That is genius. We don it should do that immediately. Yeah.
02:07:52
Speaker
yeah no We could make little nonsensical day-long beer tab. Yeah, day-long brew. Nonsensical day-long beer, yeah. what would yeah i What would be in a day-long beer? How would you design a day-long beer?
02:08:07
Speaker
Oh, Lord. Well, you were really all about the cedar toothpicks. You gave me these mesquite cedar toothpicks, so I think it would have to be barreled. So I think what we you would want is you would want to start with Probably of what I would do is go for a very like piss pale ale.
02:08:24
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Okay. And then I would dry hop it with something just bitter as hell, like a piney elder. And then i would barrel that in mesquite cedar.
02:08:35
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um And I think that that captures the like the essence of the grittiness of day one country with all the little flavors. Yeah. Hell yeah. that's i'm saying something that too I was thinking of something that tasted like inbreeding and regret. Yeah. Yeah.
02:08:53
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Yeah. Mixed with a little bit of mouth. It's just Coors. It's all it is. Coors Light. Coors Light soaked in a bourbon barrel. yeah yeah yeah but You know, it's funny. that's not the first There's a local brewery down the road from our office and one of the short films, again, honestly, probably actually the very first one we did that had music in it like that was a thing called a Waco Sleeper.
02:09:20
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And they named a beer after that. So we have a, it's not the first Whitestone beer that we have. Yeah. and wake That is where Brandon took me when I first arrived at Whitestone Manor. Oh yeah. Nice.
02:09:32
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What's the name of that place, Brandon? What's that? Boulder Creek? no the name of the the the brewery down the street that's right wild haven no i haven here no Anyway, it doesn't matter.
02:09:45
Speaker
Mike, I was going to give a shout out, but I don't remember. Word to the wise, don't take Blaze to any local breweries if he comes to visit. Oh, that was that one time that was only a day, Kyle. You should have seen the one I went to at Dave Rose Alley this past week. It was my best behavior. That was one time. this One time. was the one time.
02:10:03
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It was the one time. One time. It was one time um I felt like I was in a scene of
Atmosphere and Creative Energy on Set
02:10:10
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the movie. I'm sitting in the car waiting for Blaze to buy beer and he comes out motherfucking everybody and guys are coming out behind him. He's jumping in the car and I'm killing it. There was no physical altercations.
02:10:23
Speaker
There was no physical altercations. Somebody was rude. Somebody was rude. I let him know and nobody like liked me after I let that person know. So that's basically that.
02:10:34
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it happens so It happens. It happens. It happens. But. I want to ask you guys. I know where I know where I don't want to. I don't I mean, I don't know what you guys's schedules are like or anything like that. But I do want to ask you guys, because I know we were talking back backstage behind the scenes. And this is something that we do here on the Nonsensical Network. We like to pull the curtains back from time to time.
02:10:55
Speaker
And I always give all my guests, you know, like this is 18 and up, you know, drink if you drink, curse if you drink. and and and and and And Brendan was like, oh, we're getting canceled tonight, motherfuckers. like um But I would like to ask you guys, you know, if you some stories from behind the scenes, you know, because I'm sure there were shenanigans aplenty with you guys and and and whatnot. Is there anything you guys want to share?
02:11:25
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Some of the, you know, obviously... Nothing that I don't know what the statute of limitation is. Yeah, pretty lost. Kind of got through that. What do got, Brendan?
02:11:39
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kind of got through there ah there's not why what do you got brendan I mean, I would just say that I think that what was great was it was all through the context of everybody just trying to make the best movie. So there are plenty of yeah chaotic moments, but ultimately I think it was all because everyone just loved this little movie so much and um everyone was so nervous.
02:12:02
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that they were going to be the ones that screwed it up. And for me, that was day one, first shot up. I'm supposed as to drive Grace down this. It's when we come to that that crossroads, that first shot of coming down in the car and skeeting out at the crossroads.
02:12:17
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And I've got Nikan and Jordan in the car with me. We've just met. This is our first shot up. We're coming down that hill and the car dies.
02:12:29
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And I have no knowledge of whether or not I'm going to be able to actually stop this vehicle, let alone start it again. And so the very first shot of the movie, I almost i was basically barreling down this hill towards the camera that was on this rig to be able to lift it up. And I'm like, I'm going to hit the camera, break the camera, ruin the entire movie, and this car is not going to stop. And then I'm going to kill my two co-stars.
02:12:54
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And that's going to it. That's going to be the whole thing that we have driven towards at this moment. Um, what was great was see that but I pull, I was able to pull the parking brake and get us parked.
02:13:06
Speaker
And then the stunt driver comes over and starts giving me notes on how he wants to fish tail the car. And he's like, Oh, so on the next one, just, and I was like, Hey man, the car doesn't work. There's no next one. There's no like decision making here. This wasn't a choice. Like this car doesn't work.
02:13:22
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And then but yeah, Brent, our start coordinator, Brent Bernard, you know, he Did he put the label on the on the brakes that said like emotional support pedal? Because it was like it's never actually been a good thing. Yeah, Brent fought that car. with her i You know, it's funny too, um now that you mentioned that, yeah, that day the red car, Clarence's car stopped working as well. And that was like an actual show car, rented it like a real company, brought that to set and it died. And we're like, God.
02:13:50
Speaker
dang it like like we put these cars don't freaking work in this movie and we got to shoot this freaking day out it was like we're pushing cars and make it work it was such a that one take of clarence pulling up is like the only one we got because his car broke down as well as it was just it was one of those yeah fall pushing the car into the shot and letting it roll rolled it into place Yeah, you all ran with it and then peeled off into the woods so we could get the shot at the movie. Yeah, just throw it in a land shark. just Speaking into the woods, Rainey, don't want embarrass you, but I'm going to embarrass
02:14:25
Speaker
You have this this beautiful starlet from Los Angeles and you don't know what you're getting into. and you know She's coming from a bit of a famous family. so i was We're all like, be on your best behavior because she seemed like someone we should behave around basically.
02:14:40
Speaker
But I don't think anything could have been further from the truth. She was about the biggest trooper there was. It was whatever preconceived notions I had in my head about who she would be were completely tossed out the window on her first day of filming where we're out in the woods, like like all like filming um on this dirt road.
02:14:59
Speaker
And unfortunately for the women on set, it's like if you had the bathroom, you're going to have to wait for the little bus to go back to base. Can't go to the bathroom. But the guys, you know, you just kind of walk into the woods and you go pee. Well, I go walk into the woods and I'm about to use the restroom.
02:15:13
Speaker
And I hear this noise. I look over and Rainey is just walking back out and she has walked into the woods and peed. Just just like just one of the boys just walk back there. did her squat and came back and I was like, hey, what's going on? And that was, but that was her for the rest of the time. She was, she was part of of the crew for very much. And so much so that when we did her sequence where the whole death sequence out there, we had a stunt actress to show up to see if she was just kind of on standby and we ended being behind schedule because she refused to go to the bathroom in the woods. And so we had to drive her back to wherever base camp was so she could use the bathroom and Rainey,
02:15:50
Speaker
Rainy just walks to the corner again and pees on the horse and comes back. And I was like, Rainy, you are super cool and you are always welcome here, man. Rainy spent lot of time with Jennifer.
02:16:03
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ah We wanted to, I wanted to, I knew Rainey and I were going to along when i was like, hey, listen, when we shoot you, I want you to fall weird. Like, I want you to like look at a real dead body. And and she's like, do you have something in mind? i'm like, yes, I have a have. So I had like this classic Vietnam guy gets executed in the streets, but his like body moves all gross, right?
02:16:22
Speaker
I'm like, that's what I want. Like, we should capture this because it's very unnatural. She's like, oh, I'm so into this. And she goes and she's practicing her death fall. in her hotel. She worked so hard on it, and it's so good. If you watch it, it's so creepy the way she falls, and like her body just slumps back into this unnatural position.
02:16:41
Speaker
It was awesome. I loved it. but she was a lot of work on her part to design that deathfall, and it was exactly what we were were going for, which is awesome. I knew Rainy was my type, but she was like, yeah, we got this. I'll watch the murder video. I'll study it, and we'll just we'll do it on Sunday. I'll watch the murder video.
02:16:57
Speaker
ah um Don't worry. I'm pissing in the woods like one of the guys. I'm watching your murder videos. I'm here for you. She was she a day-long brother, for sure. She's a day-long brother. No diva necessary, for sure. no she She was so great in that role.
02:17:14
Speaker
a good good character so shout out to rainey um she's yeah she's amazing sport is what it was whatever whatever we're gonna do you know the first day it was really hot in georgia was in the fall but then all of a sudden the you know georgia has that one day where it's like oh it's officially cold and that happened to be the day at the river sequence with her and enoch where she like takes off from her dress and is just wearing that the undergarment thing and that was that was the first day that it was like in the 30s that morning and i'm like all right you gotta to go stripped down and getting the thing. She's like, okay. She was truly the best sport. Not a complaint. She was just like, let's roll. Even recording her song, she would go in there and just be like,
02:17:51
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and even like recording her song she would go in there and just be like oh and then how's that you know just like it was like well that was amazing actually um i don't have much to say let's let's do another one just to see you have and then she would be like okay and then just sing this amazing thing and just go how about that you know just it was very unassuming you know and honestly made out the same way with it was so funny because i recorded jordan first um but not first but before rainy for that song and you know very
02:18:23
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particular and very specific about what He just you know, i i would never say he overthought it, but he he appropriately thought, but he was like in his head, this is what going to do, and was just like, let me do this again, and just was really professional about it, and it was so funny because it was the exact opposite. Rainy sang just as good as he did, but she was just like, okay, let's do this, you know?
02:18:42
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It was so funny watching
Gratitude and Team Contributions
02:18:43
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that. Polar opposite approaches, but they both resulted in something magical for sure. Yeah, she would be sitting there. Rainy would be just kind of vibing, chilling,
02:18:53
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And we get her on set and then like you hit action and she, she's Frankie. Like it's just full, full volume, full Frankie. And then it cut and she's like, cool. We're we good. Yeah. Like, oh you're like, yeah. Nice. this just Just to see her to go in and out. So crazy at a drop of a hat every be time, never missed a beat. and It was crazy to watch. I didn't want to say real quick.
02:19:13
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I just want to say real quick, just in case you drop out, uh, Brendan, thank you for being here. Appreciate your brother. it was great meeting you. Obviously. as a huge fan of, of ish and of you, man, I do want to thank you for, uh, for, for jumping in here and being a part of this, man. It, it meant a lot for me, especially as a huge fan of this movie.
02:19:34
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Uh, it was a pleasure meeting you. And, uh, I'm going to tell the guys, Brandon and Nick, the same thing. Welcome to the nonsensical family, man. Whatever we can do for you guys. Anything we can do for you, man, don't hesitate to reach out and let me know.
02:19:49
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but but yeah Let us know. likewise the guys here Yeah, man. Us weirdos got stick together, you know? We've got to enjoy our weird shit and share our weird art. I love it. so I say oh let's keep in touch and keep talking for sure.
02:20:03
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Absolutely. I know Brendan said his laptop's about to die. so Well, I'm also about to die. I'm a 40-year-old man. It's just yeah way past his bedtime. Actually, that's perfectly fine. if if If you guys can, and I understand if you do, yeah a dip out, Brendan.
02:20:23
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um You got anything else you want to add before before you before you die out? Anything you want to say? no just I think this is so freaking cool. I think the the best part about independent film to me is that there is no there's no gatekeeping. right there's no process like There's no walls. And like the fact that we can sit here and have this conversation and talk about not just this movie, the love of booze music, the love of other genre films, that like that to me is is the most beautiful part about the art And the fact that like we get to connect this way and we get to make this film um and then get to share this film literally and have conversations with the people we shared it with is my favorite thing in the entire world. So that everybody watching, like please know that like we love to hear what you like about the movie, obviously.
02:21:10
Speaker
We don't mind hearing what you don't like about the movie. We know it's a weird film. And so like please know that this is ah this is a two-way relationship. This is a dialogue. um And the more that we can have that dialogue between artists and audience, I think that's the beauty of the internet. That's the beauty of independent content.
02:21:25
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Oh yeah. Breach baby. I love it. I, I concur. ah yeah but Doctor, do you concur? Do you concur? I concur. why you compar here I feel like Brendan's about to grab my face and yell at me to say, amen.
02:21:40
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Breach baby.
02:21:43
Speaker
Yeah, thank you guys so much for having us on there. I mean, again, it's an honor to talk about you make these things and you hope that someone you just want one person to connect with because it is like, you know, you you make something and you put your heart and soul into it. And you're like, I i think it was what we wanted to do. And I think this works. I hope someone can find it. So just to hear the fact that you guys I like it. It's amazing. It made my day. you know It really did. And i think I think you're right. I think there's there's more of y'all out there, but not everyone has a podcast, so you don't know. you know No one's going to hit me up my DMs and tell me something like that. they just If they like it, they go, oh, cool. and they just I like all kinds of movies, and I don't go reach out to the cast and crew. So the fact that y'all did that is is is a huge honor. So just thank you so much for that. i appreciate it.
02:22:23
Speaker
Yeah, man, it's what we do. Like yeah I, when I'm, um when I'm trying to make stuff, i'm I'm thinking about you guys. I'm thinking about someone who's going to be like, who's weird little hearts going to ring when they see this thing. And I feel like, I'd love like seeing connection, seeing somebody enjoy it and like connect with it is like literally the point of making it.
02:22:40
Speaker
Anything else is, you know, a bonus. So and I'm, I'm just eternally grateful. I love it. I love finding and audience of the, being able to, you know, connect and like, you know, make our weird little things and put them on the internet, you know, it's, it's fun. What else are we doing out here? you know?
02:22:53
Speaker
Yeah, no, and Blaze can attest to this. I mean, I was barely into the movie. I was already messaging him like, bro, you got to check this movie out. awesome I've talked about it. I've talked about it a lot on the network. I had already watched it, though.
02:23:06
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ah Yeah.
Rainey's Performance with the Brothers
02:23:07
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not Blaze and I have similar tastes. That's not the first time that's happened. That's awesome, though, man. That's super cool. That's cool, yeah. I mean, we don't know what's going on out there in the world, you know.
02:23:19
Speaker
One night we were talking and and and both of us were watching the same television, the the same show at the same time. And we just started watching it. And he was like, hey, i'm watching this new show. And started talking about it. said, bro, I'm watching it too. I was two minutes behind him.
02:23:33
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So it was so. safe so it's a man um But now, you know, we've shared it out. We've talked about it. and And, you know, to have you guys here, like I said, there was just something i wasn't even done watching it. And I was like, something compelled me. I was like, I got to reach. I got to get in touch with somebody who has something to do with this movie one way or another. Yeah. I got i gotta to talk to you guys.
02:23:58
Speaker
um but Awesome. well I'm glad it worked out, man. Again, thank you so much for having us on. I'm um' i'm truly glad I worked out, man. It's awesome. and would do anything here as We'll stay connected for sure.
02:24:09
Speaker
I love it. Yeah, absolutely. do You guys, anything you need from us, feel free to reach out. If you want to come back on, We got the music show. Nick, if you're doing anything music-wise, soundtrack-wise, composing-wise, absolutely. Cool. Blaze does Nonsense and Chili does the movie show, obviously. Yes.
02:24:26
Speaker
I'm Brandon, Nick, and also Brendan. I'm going to start going through y'all's catalog. So if I reach out, I'm just fine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to push you guys for Jordan and Enoch's personal information because I'm going to start blowing that up. Yeah, for sure. Thank you. I'm going to start. I'm going start pressuring him. Hey, hey, I'm with you. They're much more reclusive.
02:24:52
Speaker
Yeah, they're a lot. Yeah, they're busy. they They're more reclusive. And Rainy is more. She just had a baby. And and i and i wouldn't I would love to sit down with a baby. I would love to sit down with Rainy as well.
02:25:04
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She was she was so damn good in that movie. I mean, she. she kind of She kind of came in and stole the show, man. She was amazing. Yeah. she She lit up the scenes for sure.
02:25:15
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and Which we needed. I mean, the the brothers are such a huge force. So just to show up and be antagonistic to that force and then be able to control the situation, she she did phenomenal. And she matched them. that That energy that the brothers brought and the in the total chaos and anarchy that they brought, she brought the same thing.
02:25:36
Speaker
All by herself. and and And yeah, she was
Impact of Music in Film
02:25:39
Speaker
she was amazing. um So yeah, like I said, you know anything you guys need from us, future projects, definitely let it. I'm i'm i'm a fan.
02:25:48
Speaker
um I'm a fan. I'm in for past projects, future projects. cool I'm a fan and I'm ready to see what you guys I'm curious to hear the love songs Nick because good i just posted a couple today they're really good yeah it's fun man you said that you'll be writing some love songs and now'm like That's right, man. Yeah, yeah. that's not running but fun you know yeah it's yeah know it's got a nick It's got a Nick twist,
02:26:19
Speaker
That's right. It's in that in that we weird weird world thing, but I feel i feel good about him today. you know Ask me tomorrow, probably not, but you know that's right now, it's in a good place. yeah I feel you, man. As a music guy, like I said, obviously, it was the movie with the music was that extra oomph on the movie, and I was like,
02:26:39
Speaker
Yeah, for this this is awesome. That's awesome, man. Thank you so much. I know we were lost in translation. I was like, wow, I'm an asshole. And now the guy who did the music. No way, man. No way. The guy who did all the music is like, why does this dirtbag with a music podcast want to hang out with the actors? No, I don't. Are you kidding me? I know. Yeah. What's cool about them all?
02:27:02
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yeah uh i mean yeah you're gonna make a movie even if you had the great john williams composing they'd still put whoever was the the the teeny bumper actress on the late show so i get it but i mean at the end at the end of the day the music is sometimes what makes the movie i agree i mean Wes Craven, I mean, as much as we love horror movies, without those scores, those movies be the same?
02:27:29
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No way. I don't think you'd be a Star Wars without John Williams, for sure. That's it. you know' I don't like played my kids um Halloween.
02:27:40
Speaker
It was this year last year. They all want to watch it. And yeah, I mean, ah you know you get to rewatch it again with kids for the first time. And just that soundtrack was so good. or your my my One of my favorite scores of all time, if not my favorite, happens to be another horror film with Psycho. I just think that score, that Bernard Herrmann film is just... That score is an absolute masterpiece. It's one of my favorite things ever.
02:28:02
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And um yeah, I mean... even the great Hitchcock had a hard time, you know, when someone's just in a car on the street, well, there's not a lot to see, but when you have, it's just like, God, why am I so stressed out right now?
02:28:16
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That's because I just, I just, I just talked about that with a former guest a couple or with a guest a couple weeks ago, Alfred Hitchcock, you know, that, that the music, I mean, the music made those movies. You take that, like you just said, you take that music out, you just have some,
02:28:33
Speaker
dumb ass driving a car down the road, you know, like what's, what's scary about this? Yeah. Janet Lee is awesome, but yeah, you can't sustain that for as long as she shot it. You have to have that score just unrelentantly, just ah relentlessly, just, you know, driving that, that point home that she is not, uh, what you think she is. And this film is not going where you think it's going to go.
02:28:53
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100%. Um, ah Again, gentlemen, you're you're welcome. I want to play one more song. Actually, we've been talking about it. We've talked about it a lot. The great ah great legendary Keith Carradine with his role.
02:29:06
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And Blaze helped me pick out, shout out to Blaze, because I was torn. I was torn tonight. I didn't know what music to pick because I loved the entire soundtrack. ah So Blaze was out by out and he was like, dude, we got to end the song with Burden Lay Down.
02:29:21
Speaker
and i was Yeah, it made sense. it yeah you're Yeah, you're not wrong. i mean so I'm going to play this song. You guys are welcome to hang out. and Then we'll come back and close the show up. If you've got to leave, feel free to leave. No hard feelings. Like I said, welcome to the Nonsensical Family.
02:29:35
Speaker
You guys are amazing. Thank you so much, truly. For me, as ah as a fan, looking forward to ah hopefully more from the day-long universe. I hope so. and good For sure. Yeah, we want to do it, for sure.
02:29:49
Speaker
The DU, the day long universe. Looking forward to to seeing what you guys do together. um Thank you so much, man.
02:29:59
Speaker
Yeah, I do have to go around. I've got my three kids up upstairs. let me crazy hi I mean, I'll stick around for the song. And um like I said, it was it genuinely was a it was an honor to be here, man. Thank you so much. yeah Yeah. Both of you
Where to Stream and Purchase the Movie
02:30:10
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guys. bla blake Thank you guys. You guys are awesome. You guys are you guys are really, really cool.
02:30:13
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For sure. You're reason why we do it. So I really appreciate it. Absolutely. Blazer muted. and so thank Thank you as well. Thank you as well. yeah that happens It happens, man.
02:30:24
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oh real quick Real quick, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Real quick, before I play the music, Brandon, Nick, and and if you guys want to shout out everybody else's, if you know it, where can everybody find you guys? Where can they find the movie?
02:30:38
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And where they where can they find your guys' is other works? um The movie of right now is streaming. you can i mean it's It's for sale on all the main distributors, Amazon, Apple, all this stuff, but it's streaming on Tubi, I know for sure. And they even so, YouTube, I don't know.
02:30:53
Speaker
It's all over the place right now, but I'm pretty sure you can go to the old browser and type it in um and find it. And soundtrack is on Spotify and Apple Music and all those services as well. I'm on Instagram at Nicholas Kirk, our company's Whitestone mp um motion pictures and then Brandon is Brand McCormick I believe is that right yep yep yeah that's what we're found of the internet that's us that's us but better for worse awesome yeah you can dig you plenty of stuff to dig through we've been making stuff for a while so look them up on also from from coming from the movie guy if you just jump on imdb.com type these gentlemen's names into the search engine or just type in devil in the day long brothers
02:31:37
Speaker
Go check out their catalog, check out their filmography. um Hell yeah. ah yeah Love it. Thanks. that's all All you fuckers have to pay for the soundtrack or go find it somewhere else. All I have to do is go to the email.
02:31:49
Speaker
Shout out to Nick. I want to make sure you had it. I appreciate that. you you hooked me up yeah You hooked us up real nice tonight. You had us ready to go and I appreciate that.
02:32:01
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Again, Without further ado, gentlemen, thank you guys again. If you got to run, feel free to run. Go ahead. Yeah, man. Anything we can do. We're only a message away. Don't be shy. Don't be strangers.
02:32:12
Speaker
And if you need some extras or if you need somebody to get chopped up in the next movie. Yeah, you want to get shot? I'll put a hood on you and shoot you. I will gladly get chopped up or shot by Ish. Yeah, I'll stab you and shoot you wherever you want. Yeah, man. Yeah, I got you.
02:32:28
Speaker
Whatever Ish wants to do to me, he's welcome to. Well, we'll negotiate the whatever part. Thank you. so amazing night Good night.
02:32:41
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here's Here's David Carradine from the Devil in the Daylong Brothers. he with Keith Carradine. Keith Carradine. Keith. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. search research kennedy sorry For those of you who watched Dexter, you know, yeah Agent Lundy with Burden Laid Down.
Final Reflections and Music Experience
02:33:22
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I've got a weight I cannot hold pulls from deep within my soul
02:33:35
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I try letting go, but it's taking hold. can't lay this burden down.
02:33:48
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I can't lay my burden down.
02:34:03
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There's pressure building in my bones.
02:34:10
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I fear they'll break before I'm old.
02:34:17
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Lord, I'm begging please, you sent me to my knees. I can't lay this burden down.
02:34:30
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I can't lay my burden down.
02:34:38
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Mmm.
02:35:05
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Mmm, mmm, mmm,
02:35:11
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mmm,
02:35:32
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No matter what I try, I can't escape the fire.
02:35:46
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I can't lay my burden down.
02:36:23
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That was a great way to wrap that kind of, kind of wrap that whole movie up in a nutshell, man. Good call on that. Cause I was struggling with the music tonight. So thank you for, for yeah because i love the whole soundtrack, but a huge shout out to Nick, Brandon and Brendan tonight. Shout out to my boy blaze for coming up and hanging out with me and being here.
02:36:49
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um Guys, if you haven't already, go check out The Devil in the Daylong Brothers. I promise you, it is a fantastic movie. um And it's definitely worth a watch. The movie is good. The story is good.
02:37:01
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The music is is is like that. What is that? what is that that it's it's It's like the whipped cream and cherry on top of a sundae. You know the sundae is going to be good.
02:37:13
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I'll say this. If you go over to Patreon, we joined. Michael and i actually watch Devil and Daylong Brothers to record a live watching of it and are critiquing and reviewing of it.
02:37:24
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Actually, you go over... There's a Carradine joke in there, too, that's a little risque. A little risque. Actually, Blaze, on the email, Nick sent over the outtakes from Niken and Brendan and in the in the restaurant.
02:37:46
Speaker
I don't want to put that on social media. I want to put that on our Patreon. Okay. We'll put it on Patreon. Are you cool that? Yeah. So if you guys are curious to see the outtake from Niken and Brendan, a.k.a. Ish and Enoch Daylong, go over to our Patreon page. I don't want to put that on social media.
02:38:04
Speaker
Well, it's it's not there right now. Well, it will be there eventually. It will be there. It will it will be there by the end of the week. or ah let's i It'll be there by Friday.
02:38:15
Speaker
It'll be there by Friday for Nonsense and Chill. It'll be there by Friday by the time I host Nonsense and Chill to let you guys know that it it is there. I just have a lot of
Network Events and Audience Interaction
02:38:25
Speaker
photographs I have to catch up for my week war in Warren, Ohio, which I will be doing a photo dump on the Facebook page with those. A lot of cute dogs.
02:38:34
Speaker
Lots, lots of cute dogs, guys. Lots of cute dogs. It's a good thing I wasn't there because I would have come home with, like, 20 some thousand dogs. I would have brought all the dog goes home. Blazer showed me pictures. And I was just like, Oh, I want that.
02:38:50
Speaker
Oh, I want that. Oh, I want that. I'm going to bring them home. Like I wouldn't pay any attention to anything. I'd have just been hanging out with the dogs and I love dogs, dude. I really would have, but no, um, shout out to the guys. Yes. I was trying not to fan girl out.
02:39:03
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I am a huge, uh, ish fan. Um, so it was really cool. I have a Brent, Brendan up here tonight. Um, and, uh, and and And of course, Brandon and Nick. I mean, I can't say enough i can't say enough good things about this movie.
02:39:20
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I really can't. Let's give the audience a chance to go watch it before you talk more about it and give them a praise later. This guy got to to bed. That guy's got to go to bed.
02:39:31
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I got to go act like a whore on TikTok.
02:39:37
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Whatever we do on Tuesday nights. That's what we do. Click sound some music and act like a whore. But no, thank you guys for watching. Thank you guys for hanging out. Hopefully you guys enjoyed the interview. Hopefully you guys enjoyed getting to know the guys, getting to hear about the movie.
02:39:52
Speaker
Again, shout out to Brandon, Brennan, and Nick. Thank you guys so much for being here. Blaze, thank you for being here. Make sure you guys do the drill. You know the drill. Like, share, subscribe. Bio.link slash Nonsense School Network. All of our links are there.
02:40:05
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And it's updated. So I've deleted it. We're three away from 400. We're three away from 400 on YouTube. I want to wake up tomorrow and see 400. At least. And shout out to the more people who followed us tonight. I know who you are.
02:40:21
Speaker
And thank you for that. I appreciate that. And thank you guys for coming in. But, yes, three away from 400. And I think we're only a couple away from 500 on Facebook. Yeah. We are we are moving up there.
02:40:33
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We are moving up there. So, yeah. And then ah tomorrow night, is it okay if i speak on tomorrow night, please? Yeah, yeah. um We're still pounding and pounding out. We're still, ah um ah it's a yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. i Well, tomorrow tomorrow night we will be live again.
02:40:53
Speaker
What we're doing, we don't know. It might be a little bit more serious tomorrow night. It might not be. It might be a little bit of, let's be honest, we're not going to be serious 100% of the time.
02:41:04
Speaker
But we do like to talk a little bit serious. But tomorrow night, we're going to pop up. It's kind of impromptu. We're going to call it a wild card Wednesday. I know Blaze will be here. I'll be here. And it's specifically for the network.
02:41:19
Speaker
And we're just going to come on and hang out and kind of shoot the shit and whatnot. bring Bring any questions. Think of it as a Q&A. Ask me anything. It's a Q&A, yeah.
02:41:31
Speaker
With the caveat that you might not get all the right answers, any answers, or just a funny story for an answer. I have an idea to run something by you, please. city attorney You know what? No, I'm going to write it down because we will both forget it.
02:41:49
Speaker
Oh, shit. I'm going to write it down.
02:41:54
Speaker
i'm goingnna write it down I have an idea for Wednesday with the Q&A. Yeah, so we're going to do a little Q&A, and we're also going to chit-chat. So any questions you guys have for us, feel free to ask.
02:42:05
Speaker
With that being said, guys, thank you. ah I don't know what's coming up next Tuesday because of act as of right now, I have nobody planned and nobody scheduled. So next Tuesday might be a music night.
02:42:18
Speaker
I might come up here and play a DJ. Play a fuck-ton of music from all of our guests. Friday we have Retroscriptive coming up. I haven't banged out exactly what we're Michael and I are going to be discussing, but I think I know what it is. I just have to let him know that's what my suggestion is, and he's probably going to like it a lot. We're going to do it.
02:42:39
Speaker
Stay tuned. And I think Thursday, maybe Wally's back. He was back last night. He said he's back, so hopefully hopefully Wally will be back tomorrow our Thursday night.
02:42:50
Speaker
Then, of course, Saturday, you know we're going doing what we do on Saturday nights. wo Sundays are just kind of – they happen when they happen on Sundays. I'll be 100% honest with you guys. There's not a lot going on in the sports world, and there's not much we want to fucking – And it's so weird because when I'm out in town i'm and people's got TVs on, I see ESPN. There's always talking about something.
02:43:13
Speaker
um Oh, yeah, they're sports, but it's baseball season. The Stanley Cup's going on, and nobody cares about the team. Sports they like. Yeah, stanley cup the Stanley Cup's not really all that impressive this year. The NBA Finals are whatever.
02:43:29
Speaker
So it's like that wall. it's like that wall
Final Remarks and Audience Appreciation
02:43:32
Speaker
We do have some football news, so maybe we'll come up maybe we'll come up Sunday for a little bit and talk a little sports. We'll see what the guys are doing.
02:43:40
Speaker
All right. and It all depends on how late Blaze keeps me up and how drunk Blaze gets me. Oh, I'm not getting drunk tomorrow. It's a school night. I'm not getting drunk. Not tomorrow. Not tomorrow. Saturday.
02:43:52
Speaker
Oh, Saturday. and You need to recover from this past weekend, buddy.
02:43:58
Speaker
Pepper, what are you doing? Okay, we got to get going. Pepper's trying to unmake my bed over here. Nice. All right, guys. Thanks for listening. Thanks for having me. We'll see you tomorrow night.
02:44:08
Speaker
Blaze and I will see you tomorrow night. If anything else, it'll be me and Blaze. Peace out. Much love, guys. And we'll see you when we see Like, share, subscribe. Always.
02:44:30
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