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Episode 104: "Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Review!" **SPOILER FREE**
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This week on the pod the boys review “Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part 1”! We had an absolute blast, the boys laughed and argued all the way to the end. We hope you all enjoy the episode and we will see you next week!
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Introduction and Podcast Highlights
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome back everyone to episode 104 of the popcorn podcast. I'm Tommy Cressa alongside me Ryan Fran for the first time in a little bit. What are you giggling at already? Staring right at the camera immediately. I'm looking at the audience. Why would I stare at you? Just looking. Okay, well. This is episode 104 as I said. We are the popcorn podcast. Now you threw me off my rhythm.
00:00:27
Speaker
Today we're here to talk about Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning part one and some of the film. And yeah, talk about some news. And yeah, today's gonna be a really fun episode. It's nice to have Ryan back in the studio for the first time. And we haven't done a studio one yet in a while. But um, yeah.
Deadpool 3 and Superman Legacy News
00:00:51
Speaker
Make sure to listen to us on Spotify, Google Podcasts, Apple Music, anywhere else you find podcasts. Check us out on TikTok, we're actually doing pretty well on there so far. This is the best our TikTok's done in a while. Yeah, but Ryan, how have you been? I've been pretty good. I got some, my skin is peeling a lot. Yeah, my back and my neck, rough face. It's not good, but it's going away, so. Not sunburn anymore, which is good. You're just peeling. Yeah. I'm at the end of it. Yeah, you're at the end.
00:01:21
Speaker
But, um, do you want to hop right into the news? Yeah, sure. So, I mean, we can start off with the elephant in the room. Yeah. We got our first set pictures of Deadpool three and we got him a couple of days ago and it was just Deadpool. His suit is a little bit different, more vibrant than his pants suit. His belt actually has a face now instead of just the two lines. I was happy to see that. Yeah.
00:01:42
Speaker
And I hope it is that vibrant in the movie. I hope it goes to the comic book way. And not that I don't love the Fox suit, just like a little more, a little more colorful. I've seen a lot of people like comments, people being like, oh, this suit's terrible. Like, all the suits have CGI. They gotta wait till they finish it. So I mean, his suit in Fox did look good no matter what. Yeah. This one, this one looks a little more cotton. It doesn't look as like slick. Yeah. But I don't care about that. And then today,
00:02:12
Speaker
We got a new shot, and that was Deadpool and Wolverine walking together, and it's Hugh Jackman in this comic book accurate suit, which was really, really cool to see. Finally seeing him in yellow. Yeah. It was funny, because a couple days ago, I mentioned, we never got to see him in yellow, remember? It was late yesterday. Was it? Yeah. Yeah. We were going to see him in the possible. I saw this. Oh no, we were going to see something else. It was insidious. It was insidious, we were going to say.
00:02:39
Speaker
So two days ago. Yeah, two days ago. Other news, we, as I said in the Indiana Jones review, David Cornswed has officially been cast as Superman in Superman Legacy. I'm very excited to see what he does. I think he's going to be a very good Superman. So do I. Oh, we got the Napoleon trailer, the Ridley Scott Napoleon movie. Yeah, I actually look pretty good. Pretty good. I love Ridley Scott. So yeah. Well, I've grown to love him. I used to not like him. Really? Yeah. And his last home movies have got me on his side.
00:03:09
Speaker
Well, the last old baby, a banger of a movie. Shut up. I just didn't love it. Uh, the whole thing. I didn't look at my phone. Can't say that. Just didn't like the movie. Can't say
Film News: Alan Arkin and Oppenheimer
00:03:21
Speaker
that. Uh, in Saturday news, Alan Argan has passed away. Very famous actor for everyone who doesn't know. And yeah, prior to that, to his family, we got some announcements on Oppenheimer. It has no CGI in the entire movie. I'm looking at you now. Pretty crazy.
00:03:38
Speaker
Uh, while on the other hand, Indiana Jones has over 150 VFX shots. Just of his DH face. Yeah. Which is crazy. And I don't think the D agent looked terrible. It took a, took a good five minutes. You haven't seen it yet. We're going to see it after this. Yeah. So.
00:03:56
Speaker
Yeah, I think you'll feel the same way about it. Like it wasn't bad. It just took like a couple minutes to be like, okay, this is, yeah. And the dark lighting helps a lot. It's the same with any like de-aging CGI face. It just, it never looks perfect, but you know, after a few minutes, you kind of warm up to it, I guess. Yeah. Um, Oh, did you hear how Nolan got the idea for Oppenheimer?
00:04:22
Speaker
I don't know. Reading a textbook. How? I don't know. No. So at the tenant rap party, Robert Pattinson bought him a book about Oppenheimer. OK. And he gave it to him. And then he's like he was reading and he just became obsessed with the idea of Robert Oppenheimer and then made the movie and then tried to cast Robert Pattinson. But Pattinson had already signed on to do the Adam McKay movie and the Bong Joon-ho movie. OK. And probably the Batman. Yeah.
Insidious Review and Comparisons
00:04:48
Speaker
So it would be cool to see Robert Pattinson. Kelly Murphy.
00:04:52
Speaker
He's going to kill it, though. He's not as cool as Rob Pattinson. Probably not, but it's not Batman. He's not Batman. But that's actually all the news. So. Yeah, not much. There's big stuff, but not a ton of stuff. Yeah, like the Deadpool thing's huge. Being Wolverine in yellow was just. Yeah, that that we could title that. Fantastic. That could be the title of the episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yellow. Just Hugh Jackman yellow. Yeah. But yeah.
00:05:20
Speaker
Now moving into our, oh, do you want to talk about Insidious really quick? Yeah, we can talk about it. Like nothing crazy, which is like, yeah, something. It was to say it as briefly as possible. It was good, but the ending needed more. It could have been better. Yeah, it could have been better. It was good all the way through. And then the ending was kind of like you're, you don't realize you're in the ending. Doesn't feel like this should be the end of the movie. And they're like, oh shit, this is, this is the end. Okay.
00:05:50
Speaker
there needed to be more build up in that third act. Yeah, no, I agree. I think I thought I was really enjoying myself, the first two acts.
00:06:01
Speaker
Like as much as a horror movie can be. Yeah. And then it just all of a sudden was middle of the third act. Like it didn't have like a start to the third act. It just felt like it was we're in the middle of it now. Yeah. And I feel like it could have used me like 15, 20 more minutes. Yeah, exactly. But all in all, I think Patrick Wilson did a good enough job for his directorial debut. I mean, from going never directing before and then having to jump in to what I think is one
Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part One Review
00:06:25
Speaker
of the hardest genres to make a solid movie in because as we've seen, horror is always very
00:06:31
Speaker
Audiences will like it, critics will hate it. So it's always super hard, I think, to make one. But if a guy's going to go and direct a horror movie, it's probably the guy who's been in Insidious, Conjuring. He's doing all of it. The guy who's been working with James Wan for over a decade. So I enjoyed myself. I still had a lot of fun watching it. I still love the Insidious franchise. If this movie was a little bit better, I think it would solidify itself as better than the Conjuring world.
00:06:59
Speaker
but it didn't hit enough that I can say it's better than Conjuring. Yeah. Like the Conjuring movie is definitely the best set of all of the franchises. Yeah. But as a whole, La Llorona is not very good. The Nun's terrible. Annabelle's not very good.
00:07:17
Speaker
In cities, I feel like it's always pretty good, but it wasn't good enough to be like, this is better. This one was just, it was just undercooked. Like it needed more, the characters needed more time to talk to each other and like flesh out their feelings. You're kind of just suddenly, you'll see when you watch the movie, you're kind of just suddenly in the ending and it feels, it feels unearned is a good way to put it.
00:07:40
Speaker
It just ends. Not like Morbius level, but like you're kind of just realized like, oh shit, this is, this is the ending, but I needed more, you know? Yeah. No, I agree. And yeah, I feel like that's a pretty good summary of Insidious. Not a bad movie. It was worth the watch. It was fun, but yeah, it's still an Insidious movie. Like it felt the most like the first two that we've gotten. Yeah. Because as much as I love the third one.
00:08:05
Speaker
I like this one a little bit more. Another one's the scariest still. That one has so many good jump scares. Yeah, I think so. You love the second one. I do love the second one. Because I just love seeing how, like, everything connected to the first one. You're like, oh, shit, he opened the door. It's so cool. Yeah. But, um, moving on from Insidious into the main point of doing this episode, and that is Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One. Thanks to Paramount and Walmart for giving us an early screening and
00:08:35
Speaker
Well, the gates, I think they've done it again. Like this franchise continues to make good movies. Yeah. But this movie is not as good as the last three last two, maybe last. Yeah, probably. Yeah, I think. Well, no, I guess it's better than it's not as good as Fallout. Well, by far is the best one. And then Ghost Protocol. It's not as good as. Yeah, I guess it's like third, fourth ish.
00:09:01
Speaker
Yeah, I haven't seen Rogue Nation. I have to watch it. I can't say if it's better than that or not, but definitely not better than Fallout and Ghost Protocol, but it's still a good movie. These movies haven't missed since two or maybe three, even though me and you both like three. I love three. Yeah, I think it's...
00:09:19
Speaker
Out of the original trilogy, the original first three, I think the first one's still the best. I have to watch, dude, I haven't watched the first one probably since I was little. The first one was just like an instant classic. I think the third one, I just like so much because it was always on at like 10 a.m. on HBO. Yeah. Every week. And the third one's the most like action movie out of them. Because it's just shooting and running the whole time. That's what makes it so much fun. Yeah. But into the score so far, it is sitting at an 8.3 out of town IMDb.
00:09:48
Speaker
89% on Google, 98% on Rotten Tomatoes, and the synopsis so far for this film is that Ethan Hunt, an IMF team, must track down a terrifying new weapon that threatens all of humanity. If it falls into the wrong hands, with the control of the future and the fate of the world's stake, a deadly race around the globe begins. Confronted by a mysterious, all-powerful enemy, Ethan is forced to consider that nothing can matter more than the mission, not even the lives of those he cares about most.
00:10:15
Speaker
It's pretty good synopsis. Mm hmm. This film starred Tom Cruise, of course, as Ethan Hunt, Haley Atwell, as Grace, Rebecca Ferguson, Vanessa Kirby, Palm Klementov, Ise Morales, Ise Morales, please Gabriel. Yeah, Simon Pegg. I want to get everyone in here.
Character Analysis and Performances
00:10:37
Speaker
Click through it. Take your time. Vin Rames is Luther, Henry,
00:10:44
Speaker
Kitchener, whatever. I'm going to attempt that. Oh, I forgot. Nicholas Hall was supposed to be in this movie. Yeah, I saw. What was he supposed to be? He was supposed to be Gabriel. Oh, really? Yeah. He got cast and then had to drop out for what? You know, the show he does on Hulu like the old like the king. Yeah. Yeah. He had to do another season. They wouldn't let him do it. And then call it yours as the president. Then linger.
00:11:15
Speaker
Yeah, he's not the President of the United States. Oh, no, he still is. Yeah, I think the cast, like, every new edition of this series has been good.
00:11:33
Speaker
And I think good is a good way to put it. Cause the new edition, the new additions to this movie being, um, Haley Atwell's grace and then Palm Clementif is Paris. And then Gabriel also like, they were good additions. I don't think, which you kind of agree, at least with grace, they weren't great additions. I think they weren't as good as like when Jeremy Renner came. Yeah. I think all three of them acting wise did a good job. I just think the characters like grace was.
00:12:03
Speaker
I put I said inconsistent is how I put it because sometimes she's like fighting really well and sometimes she's like you see that she can lie really well like she's a thief she's an extortionist and then sometimes she's just not acting how she how she should like sometimes she just gets dumb out of nowhere for a little bit then she gets smart again it's just inconsistent and I think Gabriel
00:12:26
Speaker
Which, total nitpick, Gabriel's not a scary name. I was watching it and I'm like, I'm not scared of a guy named Gabriel. You know what I mean? It's my middle name. I know it's your middle name. It's a horrible name. It's not scary. Yeah, like the last guy, Solomon. I don't know, something about that. It's a good villain name.
00:12:45
Speaker
It's scary. Solomon's a freaking ant. He names her shit Solomon. Gabriel's just like, oh, yeah. That's a youth pastor, you know? Gabe. Yeah. But, um, Palm Clementeath is Paris. I love her. So do I. I didn't even know she was in the movie, I think, because all of the promo stuff had her with, like, the face paint on, so I just never realized it was her. It still looks like her, though. Yeah.
00:13:10
Speaker
It's not like the Joker makeup. Oh, it's not. It's like a little powder. Yeah, it's just like on her face and eyes and mouth. Yes, it's like a Robin man. I just didn't realize. I think I'm used to seeing her with like antennas too, so I just didn't realize.
00:13:26
Speaker
I saw her name in the beginning, I was like, oh shit, cool, she's in this. Nice. I think out of the three new characters, she might've been my favorite one. She doesn't say very much. No, she's that cliche, silent, assassin, secondary villain. It's always a girl, too. Yeah. Do you realize that? You changed me, it's the girl with the knife legs. John Wick 2. John Wick 2, who's literally mute and doesn't say much.
00:13:51
Speaker
I love her. It's totally a cliche, but I think it's a pretty fun cliche. No, I like her. I thought she was really good. I thought Gabriel was the best part because I do like the whole getting a little more backstory on Tom Cruise. Yeah. That's the thing. Backstory changes how you look at these characters a little bit because they they change some stuff without getting it as spoiler straight away. They change a lot of how like not only Ethan Hunt, but all of these characters got into the IMF.
00:14:18
Speaker
Yeah, and they were all kind of like bad people. They did stupid things. Yeah. Do you want to hear the critic consensus? So as I said, I has a 98 percent amount of tomatoes. There is no audience scores yet with world threatening stakes and epic set pieces to match the massive title. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning, part one proves this is still a franchise you should choose to accept. Mm hmm. I would agree. I wouldn't give it 98. No, because as I said, I don't think it's as good as Ghost Protocol or
00:14:45
Speaker
Of course, Fallout, which I think is the best one in the franchise so far. Yeah. So do I. Oh, my God. That $300 million budget. It's going to make it. Oh, dude. Oh, Tom Cruise makes money. Tom Cruise does pool and bank. Yeah. No one thought Top Gun Network was going to make that money. I didn't mean a bill. Yeah, we were wrong about that one. Damn, we really get some of these movies. Fox always scores wrong. Yeah. But oh, so we need to do our scores. You told me I wasn't going to expect what you gave it.
00:15:15
Speaker
Yeah. What are you guessing I gave it? I think you gave it an 84. I actually gave it an 86. I thought that I was going to be low. I thought you were going to like this more than me. I didn't save my score yet. I know, but what is it? 84? Yeah. Which doesn't mean, if I give a movie above an 80, that's a good score. Yeah, totally.
00:15:42
Speaker
It's just not as high as I like. In a way, I really enjoyed myself. It's a Mission Impossible movie. Yeah, I think every single one except for two. Even two has its moons that are fun. Just not as many fun scenes as the rest of the franchise. Yeah. But. I was a little disappointed, like not a lot, but like I was wanting a little bit more. Yeah, same here. I wanted a little bit more out of Haley Atwell, I think. Maybe it's the writing of it. I don't think it's her performance. I think it's the writing of the character. Yeah.
00:16:13
Speaker
And I don't know. It just felt like it was missing something. I think it was missing characters. Yeah. I feel like a certain character that we're not going to talk about right now because of spoilers. I didn't like how that character story ended. Yeah. I feel like that was kind of like a weird decision. But I didn't mind that. But there are different grapes that I have with that character.
00:16:37
Speaker
through this story. But um, yeah, so 84. Yeah, I think this movie should have been like
00:16:47
Speaker
a 90 92 maybe. But it was just those things were like, you know, grace Haley Iwell's character like Gabriel not being the best villain in my opinion, and just like the sudden Ethan on backstory that is just put into this movie. It just didn't really work for me. And I think it's more not the movie being bad in a whole but just little things dragging it down. Yeah, that made me drop at school. No, that's what I think. And
00:17:12
Speaker
As much as I like Gabriel, and I think he's the best of the new additions. He's still not as good as Phillips or Hoffman, I think as a villain. Yeah. Henry Cavill is a villain. Kitchener has just kind of a villain through the whole kind of franchise. He's not really a villain. Oh, yeah. No, it was the best.
00:17:28
Speaker
Um, and who's the villain? And we've only been in the first one of this, right? Yeah. But he's not the best guy in the first one. Yeah, no. He scares me in the first one. The fish tank scene. It's going to freak me out as a child. I think it's the camera angle that they always do. It's like up, up in Austin Hilton. Yeah. And you see all his boogers. But eventually I'm like, he's going right up the nose. Weird angle. Who's the villain in this protocol? Um.
00:17:58
Speaker
I don't remember, I remember it was like a blonde girl who killed a guy in the beginning. Yeah. Yeah, so I like Gabriel, but he's not as good as some of the other villains that we've got. I still think Philip Stewart Hoffman's probably the number two villain. I think Henry Cavill is the best villain out of the whole franchise. Cox is fucking awesome. When he reloads his arms, it's perfectly over the top. And the fact that he did that himself, and then they were like,
00:18:22
Speaker
He's like, sorry, I shouldn't have done that. Like, no, no, do it again. And then he was doing on every press junket that he had to do.
00:18:29
Speaker
But no, I don't hate this movie. But I'm definitely more on IMDb's side of this movie. Yeah. I think Rotten Tomatoes is a little... What's IMDb? 8.3. Yeah, that's fair. And then 89. Google, 99. That's a pretty solid jump. Yeah, and I think IGN gave it an 8, which... Yeah, fair. Yeah, so people are gonna be like, 84, that's such a low score. And I told Ryan I raised my score on Dial Destiny to an 85, which...
00:18:56
Speaker
That's a little biased. So I think it's probably gonna be like 83. Yeah, cuz we're gonna see it again today and I'm expecting to give this movie to give Dial of Destiny like a 70. Yeah, but that's okay. Yeah, you love any and Jones like obsessed like third favorite franchise. That's saying a lot because Star Wars and Harry Potter, of course, number one too. Yeah, but um,
00:19:18
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, do you want to do some spoilers? Yeah, we can do spoilers. We can, we can spoil things. This can come out a little bit. Yeah. Well, this is going to come out like a day. Yeah, we're good. But, um, we should be fine. But, um, yeah. So if you want, don't want a spoiler, you haven't seen the movie yet.
00:19:39
Speaker
skip ahead, I guess, or just come back to us after you watch the movie.
Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible Legacy
00:19:43
Speaker
This movie is fun and it's definitely meant to be seen. Definitely worth seeing. And we were right, of course Tom Cruise had to do his little pre-movie speech. Should have put money on that. That's gotta be like a betting line. That has to be a part two.
00:19:59
Speaker
Does Tom Cruise say thank you in the beginning? He did. Maverick, right? Yeah, he did. That one was long, and that was like two or three minutes. Oh, yeah, because he like explains. Thank you for coming to the movies again. See, I like when they do. I like when actors do something like that. Yeah, I know. It's definitely a Tom Cruise. Oh, Dungeons and Dragons, they did it. Really? Yeah. That movie's underrated. That movie's going to end up in my top 15 movies of the year. I'll watch it when it... Is it on Netflix or anything yet?
00:20:25
Speaker
no it's on my watch it when it comes out like you can rent it okay but um so if you're listening I'm gonna start spoiling things so I'm I know you don't mind as much my biggest thing was Rebecca Ferguson being killed off mm-hmm cuz
00:20:44
Speaker
You know that he loves her. Like Ethan loves Rebecca Ferguson's character. When they have that moment where it's like, it's my first time in Venice. Me too. And they hug. I love that. I knew that meant something bad. You don't do that in a spy thriller if you're gonna keep the character. But first off, I hated that they tried to fake us out with her dying.
00:21:07
Speaker
I knew right away she was alive. I'll be honest, it got me for a second. If she was laying face up, it would have gotten me as soon as she was like, I was like, she's going to do like a kick thing. Yeah. So I got her right. Also, the gripe I had with that, I was saying a couple minutes ago, is that when she's like riding away, he makes a big point where he's like, you're supposed to be dead. Stay dead.
00:21:29
Speaker
nothing ever comes of that. Like he just kind of said that. And you think there'd be a scene with like, was it Kittredge or whatever? You think there'd be a scene where like somebody sees her and it's like, you're supposed to be dead. Nothing like that happens. And when she finally does meet like Gabriel and Vanessa Kirby's character,
00:21:47
Speaker
They don't even mention it. They're like, it's nice to see you again. Like, nobody mentions that she's supposed to be dead. It's just kind of like a throwaway line, which I don't know. Dude, she's about to have a bang in 2023. Oh, yeah. This dude too. Oh, you see how they confirmed Doom Messiah is going to happen? That's going to be the final Doom movie. Denis is going to make it, everything. Is he going to do like, wait a few years for it? He hasn't confirmed, but Paul needs to be a bit older.
00:22:14
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know anything about like the book. So I don't know. It's an acid trip for people like it. And it's lead. It's someone wrote down acid. It's insane. But back to this. Yeah, I just I didn't like the fake out. I don't I normally don't like that at all. Well, it's done well. Yeah, this was not to me at least because soon she was facing. I was like, if you don't see someone dead, they didn't die. But
00:22:41
Speaker
And then I didn't like how she means so much to Ethan. She dies. He's sad. Yeah. And then a scene later, he's fine. Yeah. And I think Hayley Atwell pretty much took over that role. Yeah. And that that was my biggest issue. It was kind of obvious that she was going to be like the new female sort of interest, but not really. I don't think she's going to be a love interest reason on.
00:23:04
Speaker
I don't think so. I don't think Tonkers is that petty. Wait, what do you mean petty? He's always got to have some woman in the movie. It'd be like his love interest. Yeah, it's going to be Haley Atwell now. I don't think that. Dude, do you see the looks they give each other in this movie? No, I think he's going to take care of her, but I don't think he's going to do that. If you had a choice to kiss Haley Atwell, would you write that in your script?
00:23:31
Speaker
I'm right. Not wrong. I don't know. I don't think so. But the thing I said when we walked out of the theater is that the entire beginning of the movie, everything before the credits, is just way overpacked.
00:23:45
Speaker
knowledge. You get so much immediately. I know you have time to settle into a Mission Impossible movie. Yeah, I know. Usually like Ghost Protocol. I think that might be my favorite opening because it opens with him in prison and then they break him out and he's got to get the one guy. It's just a fun little action scene to get you into it. This one is like
00:24:06
Speaker
you're hit with Russian immediately, then they die. And then you're in a fucking assassination attempt on Elsa, which they make a big deal out of like these assassins never fail, they always bring them in and then they just kill the assassins and it's like nothing. Like there's a lot more
00:24:24
Speaker
they just overpack the opening. Like with what I said earlier, where he's like, your dad stay dead, which is lying. That doesn't really mean anything. And then in that CIA briefing room, or whoever's talent, no, it's when he gets the mission, and they make a whole point of like, she's got $50 million bounty.
00:24:40
Speaker
These assassins never fail and then he just takes them out like it's nothing. You know what I mean? Yeah, like they could have just said like she's got a bounty get her out and not said like these are crazy good assassins. You know what I mean? It was just little things that did just overpack the beginning and it was just way too much immediately. But after the credits it calms down a little bit and you're fine.
00:25:03
Speaker
Oh, and I know we talked about, I don't know if you remember this conversation, we talked about it the other day. Man, when I was like, you see his wife again in Ghost Protocol and you're like, no, you see her in Fallout. Yeah, you do see her in Ghost Protocol.
00:25:14
Speaker
You see on the brain, he's like watching and he's like sad. And he walks into the fog. Yeah, it's a great ending. She's in three. Of course, she's like a main character in three. Yeah, she's pretty big part in Fallout. And then Ghost Protocol and Ghost Protocol is probably my favorite time when you see her, because it's like he's letting. He's like, this is better for her. I love that scene. I did like in Fallout when he sees her. She's like, what are you doing here? She realized she's like, oh, shit. God damn it.
00:25:44
Speaker
And love you realize like every time she sees him something bad is happening who you like more Ethan Hunter Maverick Ethan, huh? I think I think we're gonna never really Wow Mavericks dope ever use dope Ethan hunt Doesn't fuck around. This is magic. No, but you know who's gonna win the fight? Ethan hunt Mavericks got a jet. Oh That's not fair What is Ethan on half?
00:26:13
Speaker
No, he'd still find a way, dude. It's the impossible mission. He's got sprint speed. Yes. Dude, I was thinking Ethan Hunt has to do, or not Ethan Hunt, Tom Cruise has to do like a track and field movie now. He's just running. Dude, when he's running on top of it, I did laugh when the agents are looking for him like, he has to be somewhere, Angel, look, are we just sprinting on the ceiling? That was great. That made me laugh. A lot of the jokes are- Airplanes, airport was the best part.
00:26:40
Speaker
You think so? Or the driving scene. I did love the driving scene, because that's all real, which made me understand. I think the driving scene was good. It was just too long. You went on for a while, and it was the same joke of like, they're crisscross. They do that like three times. It's like, OK. It's a good scene. It's fun.
00:26:55
Speaker
It can end now. Just accept it, though. It's a stunt scene that they did in Venice. I'm not saying it's bad. It's a little yellow Fiat. Yeah, the Panto. It's not a Panto. It looks like a Panto. Okay. But it's just a Fiat. Yeah. Yeah, no, the stunts were great. I will say the jump is awesome. It's incredible. It's not holding on to an airplane. Like, he's just jumping off a mountain. He jumps off a cliff! What people do that?
00:27:24
Speaker
How many of you do you know that have, not me personally, but I've seen a lot of these. You ever go on the internet? People do it all the time. You do not see people ride a motorcycle off a cliff, parachute, and then do low gliding in the same sun. I'm not saying it wasn't cool. It's incredible. We're saying it's not as cool as the other ones. Yes, it is. He's hooked onto the plane.
00:27:52
Speaker
He'd be still holding on to an airplane. It's not like he has nothing attaching him to the plane. He's attached. He's going to parachute and this will be fine. What if the passion doesn't open? He's dead. What if the tether breaks on the plane? He's dead. He's got like six of them. He's all hooked in it. He's not. They have like one tether. The Burj Khalifa's stunt is cooler than the airplane's stunt.
00:28:18
Speaker
Burj Khalif is pretty cool. Cause that's insane. Yeah, that one's awesome. And they tried to talk him out of that one. They tried to talk him out of the plane cause they figured out how they could do it pretty safely. Yeah. The best is the behind the scenes of the jump though. Cause they're all like, Oh God, Oh God, he's going to die. He's going to die. He's going to die. Yeah. It was cool. It's cool that they filmed him doing the line too. You know these jumpies I'm trying to get away. Oh yeah. That's actually in that. That's insane. That is awesome. Tom, don't forget your line. Shut up.
00:28:48
Speaker
Yeah, there's a cool stunt just I don't think it was as good as some of the other ones Like I think the halo jumps cooler than that. Halo jumps is cool. Halo jumps awesome. I want a halo jump It's on my list. It's not on my I'm so much fun
00:29:03
Speaker
Halo jumping would be awesome. It's a little too high. Above the clouds, a little too much rain. In a lightning storm, you're Henry Cavill. I can't say we get to do it that way. The best in that movie was when Henry Cavill was like, get out of my way. Just immediately gets struck by lightning. Oh, man. I love that movie. Great movie. But we just went so off topic. Oh, yeah. I don't even remember what we were talking about. We were talking about stuns. Oh, we were talking about stuns, yeah.
00:29:31
Speaker
I did like the idea of it instead of him landing on the train. He just comes through a window and it doesn't look smooth at all. No, dude, he wallops the dude. He picks the dude out of the train the other way. He didn't mean to. He just came through. He's like, I see her. Boom. Yeah. But all the stunts were great. Tom Cruise is that man.
00:29:56
Speaker
Oh, the driving scene. I think my favorite part of that was seeing Paris just laughing the whole time. Oh, my God. That's what that's when I realized this is a fun character. She's a psychopath. Yeah, it was awesome. But no, I had fun with this movie. It just I felt like it could have been better. It seems to be a trend with 2023 movies is that we keep saying this movie could have been better. It could have been better. One of the movies have been really good this year. Spider-Verse.
00:30:24
Speaker
Yeah, Spider-Verse was good. Pass lies, but you haven't seen that yet. Is that still in theaters now? Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's it. Maybe I'll see you next time I come home. Yeah, but I think another part of this movie, when they're in Venice, everything goes down and they have the meeting and he says one of the two girls have to die. It was a good scene.
00:30:51
Speaker
I think I knew who was going to die though. Yeah, you kind of knew. You knew who it was going to be. Um, you, you had a bigger gripe with that than I did. I think my gripe with it was that it should have been a little more brutal, which I know is bad to say. But when she got stabbed in like the shoulder, I was like, Oh, they're going to do another fake out death. Like I didn't believe she was dead here. Yeah. But I was like, I would kill you. Probably going to kill you. But I was like, don't do it. Maybe a little bit lower might've went or a lung. Yeah.
00:31:21
Speaker
I think it really did. No, she died. Yeah, she is dead. I know that. He's clearly dead. Hailey Atwell should have died. What was your big gripe with that? Because I didn't... Hailey Atwell should have been the one who died, not Rebecca Ferguson. And it was more that it should have been a lot more emotional and had a bigger toll on everyone.
00:31:41
Speaker
Yeah, they're sad for one scene and they're fine. Yeah. And Haley, I was just like, okay, like, I don't know. It felt like she could have been more a little bit more defensive of doing it. Yeah, no, I agree. I don't know. That whole sequence after she dies was a little bit where it started to lose me a little bit. And then as soon as I realized that he was gonna do the jump, I got back into it. Yeah.
00:32:01
Speaker
7 pegs so good in this franchise. It's just a fun character. Yeah. Luther's the best character in this franchise. Vince Raims. Oh my god, yeah. Vin Raims, not Vince Raims. Yeah.
00:32:14
Speaker
I think the best part of that Venice scene was the fight in the corridor with Ethan Hunt in Paris. Oh, in the Titan. Yeah, dude. That was the one moment when he slams her head. Dude, we'd be like, oh. And that dude got it. That guy was knocked out cold. Yeah. All the train stuff I liked.
00:32:41
Speaker
I did, I've come around on when Gabriel's talking to the CIA director and he's like, you're the only one that knows when he slashes his throat.
Character Dynamics and Plot Critiques
00:32:49
Speaker
I get that because now he's the only one that knows. When he turns around and tries to kill Paris, I was like, that's dumb. How are you going to know? But then I've come around to it realizing that the AI told him like, this is her personality. She will turn on you. Or because he also saw that he let her go. So it might also be like just a human condition.
00:33:10
Speaker
I'm probably going to be in the next movie, which I'm excited to see. Oh, no, I think she's going to die. No. Oh, no, they say she had a pulse. She had a pulse, so I'm going to come back. I liked her. I liked her, too. I hate the fake out stuff. Just like characters die. I didn't think that wasn't a fake out. That was just... She like goes... Pretty sure it's a fake out death. And then a whole scene layered like, she has a pulse.
00:33:39
Speaker
Yeah, the two CIA guys. The white guy sucked. I do not like him. I like the black guy. He was cool. He was cool. He was almost just like the one to be like, is he really that bad? Exactly. But that's the truth. It is the truth. I didn't mind Jasper's name. Shay Wingham. He wasn't horrible. I just didn't like him as much as I liked him. He was a little too like.
00:34:06
Speaker
Gung-ho. Hamming it up. Yeah, I can see that. They felt like very stereotypical cat and mouse. I don't know. Yeah. It wasn't my favorite character. Yeah, that's fine. I liked all the driving though. I like all the stunts. Yo. The other dude, the black dude, his name is Greg Tarzan Davis. That's a dope name. That's a dope name, dude. That's a Hollywood name. That is absolutely Tarzan. He needs to play Tarzan now. They need to make a good live action Tarzan movie.
00:34:33
Speaker
You think they'll give it another shot? No. Probably not. No. I still haven't seen the Scarsguard one. It's not horrible, but they didn't take it as dark as it could have been. Yeah. That could have been really cool. The animated Tarzan movie is probably the most violent kids movie. It's pretty dark. And how the main villain dies. He hangs himself, yeah. And you see him like you hear him. Yeah, you see him like. It's a dark scene.
00:35:02
Speaker
Damn, we've had a we've watched a lot of movies this week. I'm about to see our fourth one in seven days. Yeah. Insidious Sinister. This. Yeah. And Indiana.
00:35:10
Speaker
I think, to go back to the beginning, the best part when he gasses the CIA room, I honestly was like, aw man, this guy's just gonna blow up a bomb or something like that. I genuinely was like, oh my god, it's him. Oh, you know it's him? No, I thought it was an assassin going in to kill somebody. I thought the same thing until he wasn't talking.
00:35:32
Speaker
I was like, oh, he's gonna it's gonna be him Yeah, because I when he like pulled up the gas mask even I was like shit He's gonna kill everyone except the IMF guy can pull it off and I was like, yeah I'm not gonna say I knew it but I had a feeling cuz anytime they wear the mess. They don't really talk. Mm-hmm Which makes sense cuz they don't sound like them. Well now they have the voice. Yeah
00:35:54
Speaker
But I was like, okay, it's the mask, isn't it? And they pause like, da, da, da. I was like, yes! No, dude, it genuinely caught me by surprise. I was like, oh, yeah! I love the masks. I think it's the best. Oh, they're so good. I gotta watch the first one again. Mm-hmm. First one's so much. A lot of masks on that one. There is a lot of masks. That one is a trippy movie, because you have no idea who's who. Ghost Protocol's a bet. Three has some really good stunts.
00:36:21
Speaker
when he's sliding down the side of the building and stuff. That's not, that was all green screen. That is? That's not him? I mean, he's still like, it's not like an actual building. That sucks. I thought he was Jackie Chan. No, that's Jackie Chan. I think he's the one that has like the least amount of stones. I think he's still sprinted like five miles or something, which is crazy. But like, dude, he's moving in this one. Oh, he is moving. When he's running through Venice.
00:36:44
Speaker
I love those shots of him like the fog and stuff. I always think they look so cool. Yeah. Very like generic like scene, but it looks cool when Tom Cruise does it. His run is so funny. It's just straight up and just running from the sandstorm. That's one of the coolest shots in any of the movies. That is a great shot. I love that movie goes for also except for the stupid haircut. Besides that. So I'm going to haircut that one. I don't like the long hair. I like when he has his shorter hair. Like his haircut in three is the best haircut.
00:37:13
Speaker
Do you think? Yeah, I'd love three. I think one one in three. I think fall is a good shortcut. It's a little bit longer on top, right? And it's like done just a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. It's not that one. I just like the short hair. I will say this is the first time he looked like he was aging. I was just about to say the same thing when they're on the boat. Like you can see the wrinkles in his face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sad. I was like, no, Tom.
00:37:41
Speaker
The Scientology is starting to wear off. He needs to hop back in that Lazarus pit for like a good five minutes. Can you imagine Evil Tom Cruise? I love Tom Cruise. I'm not going to say anything bad about Tom Cruise. I want him on like a show someday. Dude, our conversation in the car yesterday with the cruise. Mr. Cruise, you want to come on a podcast? But, um, yeah, is there anything else you want to say about this movie?
00:38:10
Speaker
I pretty much said all of my knowledge.
00:38:15
Speaker
Just a good, fun movie. I think that, again, nothing was bad about it. It was just little things, especially character things, just dragging it down. Can't wait to see Michelle Monaghan in the next one. You know she's going to show up. His wife? I think she'll show up again at some point. I think she'll show up in the next one. I love her. Helping out in another village. You're back.
00:38:41
Speaker
She's so pretty. She is. I love her. Yeah. But yeah, is there anything else you want to add about Mission Impossible? I think we didn't touch on the villain, the AI. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Neither am I. I could have grown on stupid idea, but I feel like it was too easy.
00:38:59
Speaker
I always liked the person character. I liked real people. Yeah. Like Gabriel is the surrogate villain because he's just working for the AI. Yeah. No, I get like they need to change it up a little bit. Like you can't just do the same stories kind of. It's always like a bad guy doing stuff. So I mean, it is unique. Yeah. But at the same time, there's a lot of points where like, why does he have so many henchmen? You know what I mean? Who the AI?
00:39:25
Speaker
Yeah, I think Gabe. I think they're all Gabriel's henchmen. That would make sense. That's what I think. Because I was watching like the end when he jumps off the train and gets out like who parked the car there? You know what I mean? Oh, no, I think it's just like Gabriel's man. I don't think it's a sentient. OK, I think it's just I was thinking, like, why why would they be working for the like, what do they get out of it? I will say, you know, a line that I did not like. What? He only checks his pockets and he realized he doesn't have the key. He's only he's like, Ethan. Oh, yeah, I didn't like that. He just said hunt.
00:39:54
Speaker
Ethan was stupid. Say your last name, it sounds so much better. Ethan's such a no. I thought it was corny just yelling a name in general. But it makes sense if like... Yeah. Like it was cheesy, but I feel like it would have been a little less cheesy if you said hunt. Yeah. I don't know. No, it was very picky. Yeah. But I thought it was sitting there. I said the name was dumb. We were both picky. I said Gabriel wasn't a scary name. It's not. It's not.
00:40:20
Speaker
Yeah. I also, I really didn't like the flashback stuff. It just felt forced. We didn't see a lot. I was happy they didn't do like a whole sequence. It was just like that one shot. We're surely going to find out more about it. But if it, I feel like they might just.
Final Thoughts and Film Recommendations
00:40:33
Speaker
No, I think we're fine. I think Gabriel's going to like sit down and be like, I killed that woman. But if it's another like ex love interest that we have to listen to for 20 minutes. Michelle Monahan. Oh my God. But she just didn't die every time.
00:40:50
Speaker
I wish he never had a love interest, except for Rebecca Ferguson and Michelle Monahan. I feel like that would have made it more important.
00:40:58
Speaker
Michelle Monahan's the only one he should have had. Yeah, like maybe like as much as I like Rebecca Ferguson, maybe he cares about Rebecca Ferguson, Michelle Monahan, because he does love his wife. Yes. And like he wants to protect her. That's why he keeps doing that. Should have always been the storyline. He's doing this to protect her. Yes. Not this new storyline that they're adding, which I didn't hate, but I wish it kind of just. Yeah, I agree. I think that should be like the only woman in his life. Yeah. But as much as I like Rebecca Ferguson, I love that character. I don't think she should have like gotten together with Tom Cruise.
00:41:27
Speaker
I just didn't feel right. How's the third one end? I don't remember. And I think it ends with him being like, yeah, I'm done. And then they're like, it's making way too much money. There's a reason why him and her aren't together anymore after that one. She gets abducted by terrorists. So she's kind of like, I'm good.
00:41:44
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And then she has to shoot her husband. Yeah. It's one of the corniest scenes at like the most ridiculous ideas ever that she has to shoot him in the head to stop the bomb from going off. Yeah. I got to rewatch that movie. I haven't seen that one. It's ridiculous. But every time, like, come on, do it, do it. And there's no wound or anything. He's just fine. So funny. Yeah. Early 2000s. I got to watch it because everything I've seen
00:42:11
Speaker
Excuse me, is that Philip Seymour Hoffman is a great villain? I don't remember him like at all. The movie doesn't have a lot of substance. Yeah. It's very much just like an early 2000s action. JJ Abrams. Is that who directed it? It was his first like big movie. It's a good movie. I like it. But I have nothing else to say. So if you have something to say. No, I think I'll hit everything really like. Yeah.
00:42:36
Speaker
Good movie, fun movie. I can't wait for part two, but it definitely just needed a bit more substance in place. Cool. Yeah, good thing. Well, what is your recommendation of the week, Ryan? Could say the movie you watched last night. I know I've said that already though. Have you? Probably. Most definitely. Most definitely. It's right there. We messed that poster up. Beasts of No Nation.
00:43:03
Speaker
Watched it. You like that movie? It's a very good movie. It's not a fun one. No. Very good movie. It was kind of like how I thought the last King of Scotland was going to be like fun. Yeah. Not. He's not a good guy. Hotel Rwanda. I was expecting a little more. I was like, I was like, this is depressing. I'm going to recommend the Belko experiment. Is that the one where they're all trapped inside? Trapped inside. It's written by James Gunn.
00:43:30
Speaker
I watched it yesterday. Not many jump scares. It's very much like a slasher horror kind of in that genre. It's more of a thriller. You think there's some there's some scary scenes in that movie. Great cast, though. Mm hmm. Sean Gunn's in it. Is he? Yeah. I don't. Rookers in it. Dang. Undows mountains in it. Really? The girl from Morbius, his like love interest. I'm not. Whatever. Yeah. She's she might be one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen. Like I was watching the movie. I was like,
00:44:01
Speaker
That seemed like like, you know, like weird. She's just like a beautiful human. I don't know. It's incredible. Incredible. Great movie. Not great. Very fun movie. But yeah, go check it out. It's on Prime, I think. Cool. Yeah, so that's the end of episode 104. Make sure to go check out Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning, part one, when it hits theaters on July 13th, 12th, 12th, 12th. So yeah, thank you guys for tuning in and make sure to like and share this podcast.
00:44:30
Speaker
Me and Ryan are now going to go watch an 80 year old man go on an adventure.