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Episode 155: "Gladiator 2" Review!
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This week on the show the boy's review Ridley Scott's new film "Gladiator 2"! This episode was a lot of fun and the boys had a blast recording it! We hope you all enjoy it and we will talk to you later!!
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Introduction and Gladiator 2 Discussion
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome back everyone to the Popcorn Podcast. I'm Tommy Cressa, alongside my coz Ryan Fran. Today we're here to talk about Ridley Scott's new film, Gladiator 2. No audio check, no nothing. He just called me with my mic on the fucking desk. I'm sure they heard me pick it up. That was probably annoying. I don't think so. you know Your audio looks pretty good. Yeah, but I'm sure they heard me pick up the mic. That probably didn't sound good. It sounds fantastic.
00:00:24
Speaker
we're this is great but before we get into that and the news from this past week gotta gotta ask Ryan how he's doing today totally fine same as last time not much time has passed nothing's happening just want to ask see how you're doing mentally oh that's a whole different can of worms it's been oh it's been a long month It's been a long 21 years.
Blackout Wednesday Plans and Fake ID Stories
00:00:53
Speaker
Ready for Blackout Wednesday? Yes. The first one? i'm Oh, yeah, dude. Are the grandparents coming? Ashins? Oh, I don't know. I think they are. I thought they were. Dude, that is going to turn into such a chaotic event. Because they love you. They don't remember me, but they love you. They remember me because I got shit to say. I was the young kid that couldn't drink yet, but they're like, who? What? Can't drink.
00:01:19
Speaker
ah actions great Yeah, shout out. um Great people. Yeah, because it's it's you and Conner's first blackout Wednesday. Is it? Yeah, Conner turned 21. Sweet. Oh, that is going to turn. yeah Sam was like, I'll drive. I was like, no. Yeah, I'm trying to get Nate to come. Dude, we have to just... Because we still haven't done the 21 drinks with him yet.
00:01:36
Speaker
god was nice certainly one Yeah, cause I couldn't go yes because I told puff he's more than willing to like wait outside for us But I can't can't help him much puff get fake Don't say that paul no knows who pa is It's not worth the money it's not it's not worth the hundred he's almost ours he's almost there wasting my money um But nothing else. Did you have a fake? I did. You did? I never had one. I had one for like, I used it for like a week. And then I got my military. No, yeah. I just use that. They just let you go. they They really don't. I don't think anyone understands the ages. They just need to flip it over. Yeah. Back. Like this guy's, this guy's serving our country. This guy's fine. Maybe good.
Trailer Reactions: Mission Impossible, Minecraft, and More
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Um, we talked about the mission impossible trailer, right? Yep. Yeah. What do we got? How to train your dragon live action trailer. That's not, that's not, we're not there yet. Actually, I'm just saying things. God. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. It looks fine. It looks like how to train your dragon in live action, but it looks like they're doing shot for shot, which is why I want more of them to do. Just yeah give me the exact thing. Yeah. I'm cool with that. I like the kid who's playing them too. I mean, it's a good choice. It's hiccups him, right? Hiccup. What? Yeah. Hiccup is him. Yeah. Hiccups him.
00:02:46
Speaker
I was made to like the human tick up. I forgot. I haven't watched these movies in a long time. I don't remember the other ones. It's Dragon's name.
00:02:55
Speaker
Toothless. Toothless. Didn't have teeth, but he does. He just, they retract and he doesn't know that. Pretty cool. I remember that. Great movie. It looks great. Yeah, it does. Like the CGI on the new one? Yeah, it looked pretty good. Also, Minecraft movie, trailer two. Not gonna lie, it was kind of invested. I was too. I think it's gonna be a solid, a lot of honking outside. A solid fun bad 50 now. I can't, I don't, like, at first I was like, this is gonna be a 20 in dog shit. It looks like they're actually kind of having fun.
00:03:22
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Yeah, like, it looks like they're just like Jack Black just have a yeah, and he loves Minecraft. i mean Yeah, we just don't understand Jason Momoa's haircut. I don't Jason Momoa does a lot of things.
00:03:34
Speaker
He's he's he's another one of those just big Jack strong guys in Hollywood. But he seems like a fun one. He's not the rock. You know, he doesn't seem like a douchebag that much. You want to fist. funding Yeah. I would get squished so fast. No, I like my mom. I just like the rock, too. I just feel like he says some things sometimes. and Why? you Why'd you say that? He just can't stop talking himself up for literally no reason sometimes.
00:03:58
Speaker
um But yeah, if a mo can pull off like just fun goofball shit, then yeah I think the movie has a chance to be fun.
Fantastic Four Casting and School Memories
00:04:05
Speaker
I'm not saying it's gonna be good or like a 90 I'm just saying, you know, enjoy it I think it'll be fun. It's gonna be a kids movie. It's gonna be better than the fucking Mario movie It was totally fun. You're the only person who hated that movie. I not hate it was just boring Okay, I just I wanted to have fun. and I didn't maybe it's cuz I didn't play Mario like I wasn't like well, you don't play minecraft either I was having a blast in our most recent world. You built a tree house with leaves. You couldn't even figure out... That was in our most recent world. Oh, yeah, yeah, you built... I went ham on my most recent world. You didn't build anything. You just dug rat tunnels. First of all, my whole house in the first level of the cave is me. I built it. Okay. You dug it out. There's no wood. It was just rock. It's actually... Cobblestone? No. What? I forget. But I made the blocks. Okay.
00:04:54
Speaker
I improved, better than the tree house. I have a house. You know how to find the ender dragon? and No, I still didn't. I didn't even know that was a thing. You thought it was just a myth? I thought it was like a joke. I think it was actually a dragon in Minecraft. It's like the pole on the fourth floor of the high school.
00:05:11
Speaker
Did you guys have that rumor? No. For freshmen, you'd be like, oh yeah, we should get to the fourth floor. There's a pool. It's awesome. No, is that... You never had that? I was at O'Hara. O'Hara has three floors. It'd be like, dude, yeah, the freshmen come in and be like, dude, the fourth floor pool. It's amazing. Did you get anyone? Yeah, they got me. Oh, really? When I was visiting, I'm like, there's a pool. You know what school has a pool near us? It's the only school I think around here that has a pool in it. Who's that? It's Upper Derby. They have a pool? They do. Damn.
00:05:37
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I don't know if for when we go play baseball that you could always see it. Oh, but not the Darby as a pool. That's surprising. It is. Hell yeah. I hate that team. I hate every sport that they played. I played like two basketball games there one time. Like God, that school sucks. You know, their, their fence and right field was like 250 feet.
00:05:58
Speaker
But then it was like 370 that left me. Yeah. Everybody I know who went to that school fucking despises that school. There's not a soul who has a good time in Upper Darby. My dad. Yeah. Yeah. Um, shout out Upper Darby though. Fuck Upper Darby. Some good people. Shit hits school. Yeah. Um, first thing on the news thing is that we got our first official synopsis for the Fantastic Four first steps.
00:06:25
Speaker
Just fa I didn't read that. Yeah, you didn't read it. They did in that world. They didn't announce, but the synopsis um spoiled who was silver surfer and it's the girl from Ozarks. I forget her name. No, we talked about that on the podcast. Did we? I thought that was still a rumor, though. No, it's not. She's playing the actual silver surfer or she's playing a silver s server. She's playing a silver. surfer She's playing a silver. sers She's playing. Yeah. I thought she was. Maybe not. Yeah, Julia Garner.
00:06:53
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Yeah, that's her name. I think she'll be pretty good. No, no. I love Silver Surfer, so I just want to look cool. Yeah. As long as it looks cool. I mean, it's just a silver person on a silver surfboard. But just one of the strongest beings in the world. Yeah. It's pretty simple. There's not much character going on. No. It's just, you know, emotionless. I don't care what everyone says. Silver Surfer and Fantastic Four 2. Rises over there. Looks cool. Looks awesome for 2006, I think. It goes through the surfboard and like upside down. Upside down. It's pretty sick.
00:07:23
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Me going through my car windshield and I got a lock in here. Okay. Dude, the best one, I saw one literally like an hour before I picked you up for this. I saw one that was like, if I die on the road, don't say any bullshit like he died smiling. I hit a curb, said whoopsie, and ah accepted my fate like a man. That's it. I said whoopsie and accepted my fate. Don't give me any, he died smiling bullshit.
Cobra Kai and Euphoria Challenges
00:07:51
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It happened.
00:07:53
Speaker
if if i go like that just know i said jesus take the wheel and put my arms out you better hope there's a camera that instagram reel is going on i hope you know if you get on an instagram reel i'm sending it to ben simmons immediately you'd be like homie made it not the actual ben simmons fuck ben simmons but our group chat our group chat's name is ben simmons something something that i can't say but it's not a terrible thing to make sure that we're it's not Bad man. It's not bad enough that we can't say it on the podcast. Yeah, it's pretty tough. If we say it on stream, we can say it. I think. I still don't know if I'd say that on stream. It's pretty funny. It's one of my favorite. Sam saw it the other day. Did she? That's tough. She was like, what's that? I was like, oh, it's just like, what the fuck? I got added to this lately. I was like, I did not create this.
00:08:47
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You know, Connor just will randomly do it. He's like, I just go through that every like third day. It is chaos. yeah
00:08:55
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Cause you'll see what I send. It's like, it's like a funny, oh, funny meme. Yeah. You said like actual like jokes, everybody else, like me, take off for just sending the worst memes and shit. Just people dying. which just so Yeah, some dude going off a cliff. Horrible shit. Oh, okay. it's Fantastic. too Remember the video that got the, uh, go-kart guy that put his finger in the wheel and his finger. foot That was a good one. Yeah. When the cars crashed. That's a classic. That's his hand up. Yeah. Classic. Shout out that guy. Hope you find your pinky.
00:09:24
Speaker
What's the news, Tom? What do you got for me? so The synopsis. Man, you said you were tired before this too. This this is the most energy. I'm tired too. This is a whole half sleep energy. yeah can be all This is like that 2 AM sleep over energy. yeah Okay. yeah Damn, these words are tiny. ah Set against the vibe background of a 1960s inspired retro feature which Futuristic world. Marvel Studios, the Fantastic Four First Steps introduces Marvel's first family. Reed Richards, Mr. Fantastic, played by Pedro Pascale. Sue Storm, the Invisible Woman, played by Vanessa Kirby. Johnny Storm, also known as the Human Torch, played by Joseph Quinn. Ben Grind, Grimm, the Thing, even Moss Banchard. As they face up against their most daunting challenge yet, forced to balance their roles as the heroes with the strength of their family bond. They must defend Earth from the ravenous space god called Galactus. Rafe, how do you say his last name?
Discussing the Ukraine War and TV Shows
00:10:19
Speaker
I'm Einsen. Einsen. Einsen. The guy that's voicing Galactus. I forget. And his enigmatic herald, Silver Surfer, played by Julia Garner. What? You got it. Oh. And if Galactus planned to devour the entire planet and everyone on it wasn't bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal. It's Ralph Einsen voicing Galactus. Well, I don't know if it's Einsen. That's just how I hold around to it. It's got awesome voice though. Oh yeah, that's perfect. Did you see the trailer yet?
00:10:46
Speaker
There's there's like an actual trailer? Someone recorded during Comic Con. Oh, I think I saw some of it. Looks fucking like just like looking through the window. yeah He comes. i saw that that Cool. I like the design. Yeah, it's much better than the original last time we saw Galaxian. Yeah, it's not a fucking cloud in space. should mean As a kid, I remember being terrified. But then when I click grew up, I was like, this is terrible. I knew what Galactus looked like.
00:11:06
Speaker
Um, tooo oh, we got a new poster for Timothy Chalamet's new film, a complete unknown where he plays Bob Dylan. Again, this movie looks really good. Yeah. I don't know what else to say. What do you think on a Boyd Holbrook playing Johnny Cash? Oh, that's supposed to be Johnny Cash? Yeah. All right. I guess it's my big sign. and that's fine I had no idea that was supposed to be Johnny Cash, but okay. I think looks wise, it's not bad, but I have to hear his voice.
00:11:35
Speaker
Sorry, I want to look something up before I say it. Are you looking up Johnny Cash? No. You don't know what Johnny Cash looks like? I know what Johnny Cash looks like. it good Oh, um so we got our first official critic scores for Doom prophecy. No, IMDB has a 7.6 out of 10. And he says, has it at a 73. All right. Got horrible. it's kind I know a lot of people were saying it's just slow. Yeah. But again,
00:12:00
Speaker
For people who don't know the world of Dune or anything, that's Dune. It's just a slow world. It's boring politics. Yeah. That's what people like about it though. It's just politics backstabbing. There's other ways to win a war. That's like the tagline. The only reason the movies are exciting is because that's the only time cool shit happens. Is that era of politics? Yeah, that's it. When they're actually fighting and shit.
00:12:22
Speaker
Dude, I was looking at a stat. you A stat, that's not a good way to word the sentence. Did you know in the war against Ukraine so far, Russia's lost over 700,000 soldiers? Yeah. They're getting walloped. We fought two wars in the Middle East and lost 6,000. Yeah. Which is, I'm not laughing at people tonight, that was very sad. But they are getting walloped by Ukraine right now. Yeah, this is like four-year-old news. I didn't realize, I didn't even thought the number was out like 100,000. No, dude, they were using like World War II artillery in like 21. Well, remember the videos that were coming out of like the the farmers, they're riding by on bicycles and throwing them all. Dude, I was sending those to my dad. I was like, this is funny. Awesome. Dude, some of the drone footage from the the suicide drones. Oh my God. This is scary. He lee gets out of the hole and just flies. You see the one Russian dude throws, they were all trying to like shoot down. They were all in the back of a truck and drones coming towards them and they're all trying to shoot it down. They're missing and it gets in like 10 feet and the Russian dude just throws his AK at it and it blows up. Really? Yeah. It was wild. You know, this 10 feet is not far. They were fine. They were? Yeah, they were good. I mean, I'm sure they got their bell wrong, but you know, they took cover. I don't care. I hate them.
00:13:38
Speaker
they're They're bad. They shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. I agree. like Even though the soldiers I don't think want to be there anyway. No, they never wanted to be there. dude We're going to get assassinated.
00:13:51
Speaker
Turns out putin's one of our listeners we jump out of a building. We didn't I swear He did not want I know right so it's been a long 21 years. it god him I Set myself up to fail. That's what me me and kind of say if one of us gets murdered We're whoever died the other ones the price like there's like 30 text right say I'm gonna I'm going to break your house and shoot you. Dude, this episode is going to be so chaotic. This is continuing on. Cobra Kai season six is certified fresh. They're still making that shit. It's the final season. All right. It's certified fresh at an 84%.
00:14:28
Speaker
84 I like Cobra Kai. I've heard it's it's it's ridiculous. Yeah, I've heard it's just stupid fun. Like it's actually really good. I just fights pretty cool. like Yeah, they jump in a row. All right, cool. They jump in a row. There's a community that talks about imagine switching one of the kids from your foria into Cobra Kai and one of the Cobra Kai can see your foria.
00:14:47
Speaker
chaos that way too. Because they might know
Casting Reactions and Film Scores
00:14:50
Speaker
martial arts. Jacob will already still be in their ass. First of all, love you for you. I'm a big sucker for season two. I did not like season one. Do you think if they're going to make a season three? Yeah, they filmed in February. Do they? All right. Because I know they were having trouble like locking down. Yeah, they couldn't because they've all become like superstars. Yeah. And they're not getting paid enough. And they're also still a high school show and they're like 28. There's going to be a time jump, they said. that I've heard that that was going to be like a plan, but Zendaya didn't want to do it. Because I think the plan was for her to grow up and be like a PI. And she was like, that's fucking dumb. And maybe she said that in the studio didn't like it. I forget something like that. But they were thinking about a time jump, but I don't think they were actually going through with it. Or I could be completely wrong. I don't know. I don't watch the show. I mean, they have three of the biggest young actors in the world right now. Hunter Shafers, Zendaya, Jacob Eluri. Yeah, casting was great.
00:15:42
Speaker
I love Hunter Schafer and Cuckoo. You still have to watch it? I still have to watch that. You're so fucking good. I'll watch it again. Red One is sort of, is audience verified hot with a 90 on the popcorn meter. Yep. That was a hard sentence to say. That was tough. I fucking hate everything to do with this movie. I will not see it.
00:16:06
Speaker
But it is really exciting. We got our first look at Tom Hardy and Havoc. We talked about this film like a year and a half ago. This is the it's the new cop action thriller directed by Gareth Evans, who directed The Raid. Oh, it's like a cop going in like the crime underworld and find his way out in like one night. Tom Hardy.
00:16:27
Speaker
All right. The poster we got before was like in the snow. He's wearing like a SWAT vest. And that's it. Well, SWAT vest is like a tank top is why I'm not got naked with a SWAT vest on. Oh, sweet. Nikki Madison shows off a Norris verified hot and certified fresh trophies at last night's Governor's Awards. It's the first round of all like the big film awards. Super exciting.
00:16:50
Speaker
I still gotta see you Nora. So do I. Yeah. Very exciting. Oh my god. Red One has an opening weekend of 32 million on a $350 million dollars budget. Yeah. How did they give that much money? The Rock. To a Christmas movie. Wicked has an official verified hot score of 99.
00:17:10
Speaker
critic audience. Okay, I was gonna say what's the critic? ah I haven't seen yet. I think it's gonna come up once I get
Music Composers Debate: Williams vs. Zimmer
00:17:16
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higher in the thing. Oh, we got another trailer for Nicole Kim and Harry. Harris Dickinson's new film baby girl. I'm not seeing that dude. I'm so seeing this. wayve Zero. I said it sounds like we're going to see this I didn't have interest in um what's it called. We live in time. I enjoyed that movie. But I'm not seeing this is just an erotic Yeah, that's just not I'm good. I just don't like that stuff. Just makes me uncomfortable. I love Harris Dickinson though. Everything he does. I feel like he's triangle sadness. Horrible. Can't believe we've believed me you watch that. It's not horrible. It's just not. No, it's really good. And then the next the second half makes no sense. It was very well made. But then it was like, can we do something?
00:17:55
Speaker
How much is more? I don't even remember. Like it's it's just the boat just they just get pirates and they attack them.
JFK Assassination Theories
00:18:01
Speaker
Woody House and character ever shows up again. That was kind of funny, though. No, it's fine. It's everything after that when they're on the island. He just starts selling himself to the old Asian woman. That was kind of funny, though. Yeah. Oh, we got our first poster for How to Train a Dragon, which will release on June 13th. Film Fry, Max.
00:18:18
Speaker
Now we got, as Ryan said, we got a first official trailer, which I am very excited for. I do want to rewatch the animated ones. I feel like remember it better. I've always seen that. I've definitely seen the second one, but I only remember the first. The third one's even better. All of them are great. Gerard Butler's returning to the role. He plays the dad in the animated movie. Does he? Yeah, he's playing this. Oh, that's sweet. ah Yellow jacket season three is set to premiere on February 14th.
00:18:45
Speaker
Never watched the other seasons. Heard it's really good though. So I know I want to watch it. It's just not on my top of my list. Oh, first of critical reviews for Wicked are fresh at a 96. Damn. Are we seeing it Friday? This Friday? Apparently we are. No, that's the 29th. Next Friday? Yes. Thank God. Sweet. Why was this Friday? I thought your dad was texting me. I thought we were seeing it. It comes out next week. Oh, it does? Perfect.
00:19:14
Speaker
Uh, I guess I'm seeing it nude minecart trailer. She talked about, Oh, there's a John Williams by, uh, not biopic
Gladiator 2 Review and Expectations
00:19:23
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documentary. Yeah. It's at a hundred percent. The goat is the goat.
00:19:28
Speaker
ah Is he the goat? Yes. He's the most ill-fucking- I know, Zimmer. I'm just- Don't you fucking dare! Don't you fucking dare! I will throw hands right now. I didn't say what i think i'm saying shut out i know john will I I
00:20:00
Speaker
No, he's the best and he has the most recognizable scores of all time. I think he's the best. I'm not arguing. No, Hans Zimmer is number two. Hans Zimmer's number two, but fucking- Who's your number three? Who's your number three? I know my number three. Who is my number three? I have no idea. Who's yours? Danny Alfman. Danny Alfman? That's pretty good. That's nice. Or fucking John Carpenter.
00:20:20
Speaker
Yeah, he's up there. Speaking of Hans Zimmer, this is a question, very old question that I just never remembered to ask you um when it happened. Hans Zimmer ineligible for best score at the Oscars because of Dune II being from Dune I. How do you feel about that? Stupid. You do? Because I think the score in Dune II, I like more than Dune I. Alright. Because the main score of Kiss the Ring is my top five figure four film scores ever, which is fucking dumb now that he can't get nominated. Yeah, I disagree. I thought it was very similar. Not in a bad way because they're both great. But I agree is like, you know, if you do very similar scores, just after you won the Oscar, it's like, everybody else is like, what the fuck can we do? It was like that mean square that everyone was doing, like, where it's like the the singer yeah strings and the
00:21:06
Speaker
Long tube thing. uses I don't know what it's called. But the one for Kiss the Ring has not like that's the one that plays like at the very end. It has the drums instead. It's like when you see all the ships going off to fight the the jihad. That's what it is. That's what they call it. Is it? Yeah, the instrument. No, the fucking war. It's a holy war. Yeah, the holy war. Oh, that's what it means. All right. I didn't know. It's what a jihad is. OK.
00:21:33
Speaker
Okay. um I like that scene and I love that score that gets played alongside with it and I don't think it sounds like anything from the first one. Okay. I am mad. I disagree, but that's fine. I also haven't seen that movie since it came out and I was very distracted. Remember the kid who sat next to me? It was just smoking and drinking, neither I thought. Oh, yeah. Yeah. you You've never saw it again? No, we did see it again, but not in IMAX.
00:22:00
Speaker
We've not seen it. We did not. I saw it again. I still could have heard it, but I was like, yeah. I've lost it. I forgot about that guy. That dude was fucking shit face next to that guy. So he fell asleep. He fell asleep before the end of the movie. He missed it. And I just fuck. Well, everybody was yelling at him before we get into the actual view of gladiator two. We're going to take a brief second and talk about the sponsor of this show.
00:22:27
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00:23:17
Speaker
The Phillies them. The Phillies aren't getting one soda. The Phillies are not getting one soda. I'm like Nate. I'm just delusional now. I hate Joel Embiid.
Ridley Scott's Career and Director Roundtable
00:23:28
Speaker
Yeah, who doesn't? You're a fucking bitch. I hate Paul George. I'll fight Joel Embiid. I'll take my chances. Kick him in the knees. He's just gonna hold your head back like a little like a little kid. Yeah? Yeah. All right. Damn. See, even at the height. Yeah, that'll even it out.
00:23:47
Speaker
I was right behind him and kicked him in the balls, don't worry. Even out the height like a child. That might not even out the height. That's a big motherfucker. That's probably right. I've met him. I've seen him in person. I forgot we met him. Massive.
00:24:00
Speaker
saw him in church when I was a younger man. Literally saw him go up and mean, I forget who I was with, but we went, it looks like Joel Embiid, just from the back. And then he turned around and we were like, oh my God, it's Joel Embiid. I know, I literally drove over there for a youth group. Joel Embiid was there. Those youth group days were fun. Those were fun. What we have become. Good God. Driving past me and Sam were coming back from, I think it was dinner or something. We were driving past um where we used to do youth group after Steubenville.
00:24:31
Speaker
I was like, me and Ryan used to go to a youth group there, and she's like, you went to youth group? I was like, yeah, like 30 years. So much fun, though. It was fun. It was a great time. We're in different stages of life now. Yeah. We were still after seeing Heretic.
00:24:46
Speaker
Wow. Yeah. Wow. I still got to see that. It's a whole search. It's a great movie though. I've heard Hugh Grant is just the best part of it. Unbelievable. Yeah. Now, I will say, Heretic's better than the movie we're reviewing today. Really? Yes. You're saying that? In my opinion. Wow. And as we said, we are reviewing Gladiator 2, directed by Ridley Scott, and starring Paul Mescal, Denzel Washington, Pedro Pascal, Connie Nelson, and Joseph Quinn. This film is currently sitting at 75% on Rotten Tomatoes, 7 out 8 out of 10 on Screen Rant, and 79% on Google, which is a lot lower than I thought it would be on Google. It's currently still not out yet, so there's still no audience scores. And- Yeah, when does it come out?
00:25:35
Speaker
Officially Thursday Thursday. Well, technically Friday with that yeah, I hate when they do that now It's like releases Friday except for special showing on Thursday. Mm-hmm. Go back to midnight releases. Yeah. Oh We should release it after the movie comes out so we don't get sued. Although we did see it, you know this ah No, the we went so out the embargoes lifted. All right, that talking about yeah I just don't want to spoil it for people Yeah, we'll do like our normal like intro review and then from here on out we're gonna talk about that. Yeah, I Because we went and saw it and we bought ourselves the Mystery Monday tickets after seeing that it was a two and a half hour R rated movie and there are no other two and a half hour R rated movies coming out anytime soon. So we assumed it was Gladiator and we were right. God thank God. Very cheap. We didn't tell Connor about it. we say You told Connor we were seeing Gladiator. I knew it was the Mystery movie and there was a chance Gladiator didn't play and he would have lost his goddamn mind. Can you imagine if it ended up being like Red One?
00:26:34
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i I would have lost my fucking mind. You would have, would have murdered me. We would have, I would have driven Connor home by ourselves. Like you would not have gotten a ride home. You're like, get an Uber. Yeah. I do not walk. Okay. Walk to the gap. It's probably closer. The gap. Your arm, your unit. No, the gap's in Hershey. You always say. my unit is That's where my actual unit. The gap's not my unit. Go there. I thought, okay. The gap's the training center. I don't know military shit.
00:27:00
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Um, but as I said, it was written by, it was directed by really Scott and the story was by Peter Craig and David's scarper. The budget of this film was 250 to $310 million dollars with a net of two 10. How the fuck does that work? It says 250 to three 10 million gross and then two 10 million net.
00:27:21
Speaker
This numbers went right over my head. I'm not, I'm not paying attention. We're not smart enough to try and figure that out. I'm not. You said. I feel like i'm like that sounded dyslexic with my ears, you know what I mean? So the budget says, it says budget, semicolon, $250 to $310 million. dollars so Gross. But then it says $210 million dollars net. Yo, you really are struggling, homeboy. Where's his hands?
00:27:47
Speaker
I'm not a fucking ec economist. I don't know. Just say 310. It was $310 million. dollars That's it. Damn. That's a big-ass budget. It's Gladiator 2. How much was Gladiator 1? It's Ridley Scott, Tommy. He just gets money. This man does this. Yeah. I told a God, I was like like, the guy who made this made Alien the first one. He's like, no, he didn't. I was like, yes, he did. He's like, wow. He's like, that's weird. Yeah. Sure sounds right when I said James Cameron made the second one. Yeah. Dude, that franchise I was thinking about, that franchise has the best set of directors.
00:28:19
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Fincher, Cameron, Scott, Fedi Alvarez. Yeah, it's a good run. I forget who did four, but it's not very, it's John Claude something. Van Dam. It's not Van Dam. The best part of this movie is how much disrespect they're giving the King of England.
00:28:38
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further the at the premiere, it's the best because Denzel, I think just talking about this last time, he just talk to fan he was talking to fans and they were like, do you want to go meet the king? And he was like, no, I'm talking to fans. I don't give a fuck about the king. And then Paul Mezcal was like, I'm Irish. I'm not talking to the fucking king. Yeah, he's like, I'm Irish. He's on my list of things. It's not my thing.
00:28:57
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Well, it's not the hell yeah it was movie. Second. Well, it's so much fun. Yeah. Denzel rules. He's just chewing everything up and he's having a fucking. ah Yeah, he's just chewing it up. He's having a blast, though. But the synopsis of this film is years after witnessing the death of Maximus at the hands of his uncle. Lucius must enter the Coliseum after the powerful emperors of Rome conquer his home with rage in his heart and the future of the empire at stake. He looks to the past to find the strength and honor need to return the glory of Rome to its people. Yeah.
00:29:28
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I loved hearing Connor when they, when they kind of revealed that it was Lucius. I loved hearing Connor go, Oh, I love kind of that. Sometimes things just don't make sense yeah in his brain. Like him. Tell me the compound was not in the Batman. Yeah. And I was like, yes, he was like, no, he wasn't. I was like, I swear to, he's in half the movie. yeah He's a good guy. It's all right. He'll be, he's been dropped on his head a lot. He'll be all right.
00:29:52
Speaker
His girlfriend's going to PA school. He'll be fine. But um let's try and i'm trying to think of what we can talk about now before we do. Let's talk about performances. since we have like And we'll talk about the main five. Quinn, Nelson, Pascal, Washington, Meskow. I feel like those are the important ones. What do you think of Paul Meskow?
00:30:16
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Cause I knew when we first got out, you had very specific words to throw out there. Well, I had one specific word that he just doesn't hold a fucking candle to Russell Crowe and he doesn't. Um, I think he did a fine job, but I feel like he was very.
00:30:31
Speaker
Like he was very monotone. Like he was just angry the entire time. Whereas Maximus kind of has like his moments of being genuine and like emotional. And like Paul Mezcal has some emotion, shows some emotion like the beginning. But for the rest of the movie, it's just anger the entire time, which is...
00:30:48
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point in the movie. He's just completely fueled by rage. So it makes sense for the character. But I think as a protagonist, I think Maximus is just far better because he's much more relatable as a person and just shows more emotions and you can kind of, you know, feel him out a little bit more than Paul Mascow. But that's not a knock on his performance because, you know, it was really just a part of the script for him to act. So I think he did a fine job, but definitely not as good as Russell Crowe.
00:31:17
Speaker
No, Russell Crowe wins yet won the Oscar for his, didn't he? I think so. um Something else that I'm going off a little off here. So I didn't even think about Fred Hetchinger, who plays one of the emperors. I can play for guys playing Chameleon in Craven. Is that him? Yeah, remember we were trying to like. Yeah, little dude. Yeah. but No offense, but. Psychopath in this movie. Just when he's standing next to Denzel and. Dude, he's a tiny dude. Yeah. Is Denzel like a tall man?
00:31:46
Speaker
A tall man. A tall man. Is he tall? I don't know. I can look up Denzel's height. Joseph Quinn, I feel like, is a big dude. I mean, he looked like he was tall. Yeah, maybe. I mean, he's not the most broad guy. He seemed like he had some height to him. Denzel Washington is 6'1", 212. Damn, what's this? Gamey is height and weight. I don't know why. Can I call a drag stock? He's basically an athlete. He's 70, right? The first drop down was what ethnicity is Denzel Washington?
00:32:14
Speaker
Well, I think he's in the African-American. Oh, yes. Thank you, Google. Well, what was your question? Isn't he 70 already? He looks good for 70. He ends up Washington age 69. Nice. Nice. More movies and he's retiring. No, he'll work. He said he wants to move into directing. Does he? All right. He'll be the director. He's going to make the fourth and the fifth equalizer.
00:32:42
Speaker
Yep. I'm so down. I love those movies. Oh, what ethnicity is Joseph Quinn? French. English. Mm-hmm. Not fucking French. C'est vous plaît? Okay. I need that culture. All right, he's 5'11". And I got that by having to search, what and height is Eddie Munson? Fucking God damn it. Fucking Google. I like Stranger Things, but man, are some of those fans annoying.
00:33:14
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um I thought Paul Mezcal was really good as Lucius. I definitely see what you mean. He's very monotone in the film. He doesn't have as much character at all. like Maximus is like a show. like yeah He's kind. Everyone wants to be Maximus. I don't want to be Lucius. No. This man just gets everything taken from him. But I thought he did a great job with the action sequences.
00:33:40
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I mean, he looked like he was actually in there. And Pedro Pascal even said it was a pain in the ass to have to fight him it all the time because he was so strong there. And he got, Paul Mescal got huge. Because if you've seen normal people or after a son, he's not a big guy. He's just a normal build. He is huge in this movie. And another thing, ah really Scott did a great job filming this. I like how, I like how the gladdier stuff was all done. And it was cool getting like little moments. And the opening was such a cool way of doing it.
00:34:09
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Oh yeah, the pastel. yeah Yeah, that was really cool. I feel nice. Jinx. Do you feel like that was AI? No. Because when I was watching it, I'm like, that and might be AI they're using there. I thought maybe they just had the actual footage and they just put some overlay over it.
00:34:27
Speaker
Which is crazy. Do you think they just used AI to do that? No. Okay. Maybe, I don't know. I hope not. I think Ridley would do that. I mean, I think it looked fine either way, but it was just... I was looking at him like, maybe they did. I don't know. Did you see Ben Affleck come out against AI? Yeah. Against films. He said some artsy stuff. Yeah. It's an artsy dude. He is an artsy dude. Very good filmmaker. A very good filmmaker. You were so mean to Ben. Not great at relationships, but he's a very good filmmaker. I'm going to end up together again.
00:34:53
Speaker
I just don't know. My hero. I fucking... God, I hate that. I turned and pointed at my terrible poster. God, the videos of him just like sulking, holding a coffee, and slamming the car door on J-Lo. Oh, and J-Lo. Oh, man. My man was not happy. Having a horrible time. Or him yelling at that paparazzi guy in Spanish. Did he? Yeah, you didn't see that? I think he was driving his kid somewhere, and he just started yelling at the guy. And the guy didn't respond, so he starts yelling at him in Spanish. And he's like, oh, okay.
00:35:23
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um You don't fuck around, dude. No, don't fuck around. Ben Affleck's a big fuck. Oh, you'll kick your ass. Kick your ass. But yeah, I really like Paul Maskell. I definitely think he was very monotone, but I like the voice that he gave the character. Sounded like he could be related to Maximus. And he really does look like Marcus Aurelius. Marcus Aurelius. This was really cool. Jinx again. Yeah. Yeah, they did good. Really, Scott did say that was like a reason they cast him because he had such a strong resemblance to the ah to the actor who played Marcus Aurelius in the first one. And you can totally see it. If you look at younger pictures of him compared to Paul Mescal now, it's it's pretty impressive. You can look at actual Marcus Aurelius pictures. yeah And it looks like you can see what the resemblance is. What kind of cameras they had back then.
00:36:08
Speaker
I'm talking about sculptures. white naturals Yeah, because those are dead on. This is the one of the guy with the small penis. The very famous. Yeah, all of them. Are you talking about the David? Yeah. The David. You couldn't remember the David. It's like the most famous statue ever. You know who it's based on? The Rocky statue. No, not the Rocky statue. you don't say massimo' famous It's not the most famous statue. Do you know who the David is based on?
00:36:35
Speaker
David from David and Goliath? Yes. Really? Yeah. Holy shit. Of course. There's like means where it's like... You don't know what the fucking David is, Tommy. Who made the David? Fuck. Who? You are a nice and shit. You have to get this. Michael, I ended up... Very good. Okay, thank God. You didn't say anything. I thought you were going to give me a desk there when I leaned back forward to say... Phew. Okay, moving on to Denzel.
00:37:02
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I thought Denzel was the best part of this movie. The dude's just cool. And he walks like Voldemort in this movie. He holds like his gown. He's always in some styling clothes, though, too. He's always looking like a fucking G. He got the rings on. Absolutely. And his mannerisms are really cool. Very much Denzel. Yeah, absolutely. I forgot a very cool quote by Michelangelo when he was making the David. Because he finished it, and somebody was like, how did you make that? It took him like three years.
00:37:31
Speaker
And he was a was like, how did you make that? It must have been so difficult. And Michelangelo just goes, it was super easy. I just cut away the part that didn't look like David. That's a good quote. That's a bar. That's a baller quote. This movie has some 1500s dropping bars like that. Hell yeah. This movie had some lines where I was like, um but yeah, Denzel was just cool. He's awesome. There's no movie that Denzel wasn't bad.
00:37:58
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yeah He might be in my gym. He might be my one where he tries to be British. What's that British movie he did? He's yeah, I'm telling you it's the worst accent you ever heard in your life. It's very funny. I'm pretty sure it was British. There's some movie where he tried to do an accent and and he just it wasn't good. That's the only time Denzel's ever been bad. Denzel became a Brit for Queen and country.
00:38:22
Speaker
Yeah, try to find him talking for a second. Because um it's bad. But Denzel in this movie is just showing up everything. And I i always love when like older, very experienced actors like Denzel come in and do a movie with not like young. I mean, yes, young, but not like super inexperienced or bad actors. But yeah you have Paul Mezcal and Joseph Quinn. And you know they're younger actors who have done a ton of stuff. And they're very talented, but they're still pretty young in their careers.
00:38:51
Speaker
Having an older guy like Denzel come in and just chew shit up around him is always so much fun to watch. It's just the master and the teacher just going. Because you can tell there's like a gap between them. You can tell he's just having fun. And he's like, I'm going to show this kid how you do it. I'm going to show him why I'm the fucking legend. Yeah, I'm going to show him why you don't need to say my last name. It's just Denzel. That's it. hey I think our skill was cool, though, too. i was I really liked his character. Yeah. I like that the way that they play in it with the trailer is very much different than what we get in the movie.
00:39:20
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And yeah, I'm excited to see how other people feel about that. Yeah. And then Kai Nelson, she's in the original. She's very good in that one. She's very good in this. She doesn't have as much to do in this one. Yeah. Like she very definitely definitely has a very specific role for this one, but I still really liked her in it. And then I really liked Joseph Quinn and Fred Hetchinger. They were such a Despicable people two of the most punchable characters I've ever seen in my life. Oh, I mean I told you they're just Joffrey splitting the two people. Yeah Yeah, they suck. Just quit really good. in the job I like the scene where he's like channeling God. Mm-hmm. He does like that Yeah, I know he does up for that one and he's like no. Yeah, then the crowd's like bitch. No. Oh Wait, we can't talk about that yet. I'm talking about that when we get there very soon. Did you um
00:40:11
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Did you have a favorite moment from any of the gladiator battles? Did you have one that you like more than the others? I mean, I don't want to spoil it. No, I'm just asking like yes or no at this moment. No, I think they were all good. There's nothing that like...
00:40:25
Speaker
I mean, they both stick out because they're awesome, but there's not one that sticks out better than another because they were both awesome to watch. Yeah. Like they're just, they're just cool. And all the action was done really like the opening, the big starting fight. Yeah. It was very cool. Yeah. And I will say though, the CGI. Not great. Not great. It was the only time that I was like, that's not great. There was that scene and then a scene after that. Yeah. I think we agree. I think we agree. Yeah. I don't want to say, cause I don't think that's in the trailer.
00:40:56
Speaker
Like the shark stuff's in the trailer. Everyone knows that that's a thing. Yeah. That's the only thing I think they really hint at, though. I don't want to say any anything. I'm pretty sure the first one is in like one of the early trailers, but whatever we can talk about. Yeah, we'll talk about that in the spoiler. Oh, ah, keep going. Um, did you like the score? It was right. It was almost identical to the original. Yeah, i it was so glad you had the scores. Awesome. Yeah. Would you be mad if this got nominated for an Oscar now? If this gets nominated, I will be fucking.
00:41:27
Speaker
Cause this is not as good as Doon Doos. Alright, and I'm also, and me saying Heretic is a, I liked Heretic more, does not mean that this is a bad movie. I've really, really enjoyed myself. I was still gladiator and you can tell it's Ridley Scott. First off, Ridley Scott. Man's kind of slowly working his way back.
00:41:45
Speaker
I put out some back from what? He had done some weak movies. Or he had done like people started like hate on Ridley. A little bit. People were mean about Prometheus. Alien Covenant. Yeah. ah Gucci, House of Gucci. Mm-hmm. Last door sucked. No, it didn't. The reviews for Last Door, brother. I was watching my phone the whole time, sorry. um Last Door, I saw in, I remember seeing that in theaters with my dad. Me and him walked down, we're like,
00:42:14
Speaker
so being of like Adam Driver's point of view is still rape. Sam was like, I went and saw it. I thought that Adam Driver was the good guy. I was like, yeah, no. No, not at all. nah I love that movie. It was a fun movie. I wish they only did two points of view.
00:42:32
Speaker
Left it up to interpretation. No, like not show Matt Damon's point of view. I don't get why show Matt Damon. Well, I guess. Yeah, because he's not there. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's important to see him like coming home and figuring it out, seeing like how he got so angry so fast. I mean, don't show. And I was putting you there. Or you don't show Jodie Comair's Jodie Comair's point of view. She's so good. And i just like really leave it up. Yeah. Well, that final fight, though, so good.
00:42:59
Speaker
Yeah, it's good. like but It's not very long. Yeah, Matt. Love that shit. Yeah. The intro fight with the horse charge. Oh, they can't start them. Oh, do you mean the horse charge like the actual battle or when it's them two getting ready to fight? right That's how the actual battle. in the Yeah, that's getting when they charge through like the little crazy opening is them in the pit. Yeah. And it's like let them go at which sounds so cool. And I mean, I am so excited. Yeah, I love them. But yeah, I feel like I don't know. I feel like really kind of like a point where everyone knows he's top of the list, greatest directors of all time. Then I felt like with Prometheus, Alien, Covenant, Last Duel. All I do, he's kind of hitting like a little lull. Yeah, his brother's a little better than him, but... Oh my God, what movie did he direct? Top Gun. That's what it is. Tony Scott. He passed away, didn't he? I think he did. I'm not totally remembering. I'm pretty sure he did, unfortunately.
00:43:55
Speaker
um And I lost my train of thought. What were you saying? Yeah, he passed away in 2012. Yeah, really Scott. That's what I was saying. Yeah. He, I guess you can kind of say he had a little bit of a lull, maybe not in like the quality of his movies totally. Cause I know like the alien movies, you know, Prometheus and.
00:44:12
Speaker
Did he direct covenant? Yeah. I'm not sure if he did, but I love both those movies. So I have those really. Yeah. Those kind of dipped a little bit. Um, last duel was fine. And then whatever the other one, how's the Gucci? Wasn't that was a Gucci was his weakest film knife. I think I on his list. I think it honestly probably worked for him to just say like, I got to take a step back for a minute. Just go back to all reliable. I want an Oscar for this. let mean gladie I got to bring it back. Just get my groove back and we're we're good.
00:44:40
Speaker
So yeah, I don't blame him for going back to a legacy sequel. I'm glad that arguments kind of died down a little bit. The legacy sequels are bad thing. I like like ah legacy I like them when they bring back the original people like like you bring back really Scott for this because it's his fucking movie. Oh, like the directors come back as well. Yeah.
00:44:58
Speaker
That's what I mean, like if they're alive. like That's how I feel about Alien Romulus. I like that really was on set. Because I hate when they, like we were saying, I think hate when they change it too much. Yeah, you need their blessing. You can't just be like, all right, we're gonna make some money. and We're gonna remake or make a sequel to so and so. Scream did it really well with five. Yeah, Scream did pretty good. um Maverick. Yeah, it's just Tom Cruise being like, let's do it again. they um oh
00:45:25
Speaker
Tony Scott's got some, I forgot he did, he directed True Romance. He's got some bangers too. I fucking love True Romance. Gary Goldman, that movie, Nightmare Viewer. Creepy-ass white Jamaican drug dealer. um ah We talked about Kai Nelson, we talked about Just Quinn, we talked about all the performances. But yeah, I love Ridley. I would love to sit down and just talk to him. I feel like he's yelling at me. But I would be honored if Ridley Scott told me to go fuck myself.
00:45:53
Speaker
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. You know who I would like to see sit down and have a conversation? Uh-huh. The Russo brothers and Ridley Scott. Ooh. Dang. That would be maybe they very interesting easy on Ridley's side, two on two. Yeah. That should be the next like director's roundtable was like Tarantino, Ridley Scott, and then like the Russo brothers, John Watts. like I think John Watts gets more credit than these two. James Gunn's in the middle because he can, you know, he's doing the comic book stuff, but he's kind of the best at it. He's like, all right, we're good. Yeah, because he does like true comic book movies. Yeah, I'll keep it. I'll keep it mediated, you know.
00:46:32
Speaker
Tarantino with Nolan in there. Yeah, Tarantino throwing hands. Nolan has respect, though, for like fun movies. Yeah, because no, I mean, no one does that. Like his movies are high class and at the same time super fun. Yeah. Because you might not understand it, but it's what fucking gorgeous. Yeah. And he also just loves Fast and Furious and just like fun movies. Does like he's just and he's a movie. Tarantino the Fast and Furious? I'm sure he does. Tarantino the Fast and Furious. Yeah, that's the last three.
00:46:59
Speaker
It's been all terrible. There's still one more coming out. Yeah, it's the part two. They asked X part two. Uh-huh. Yeah. I'm talking about Fast and Furious. He got me yawning. All right.
00:47:14
Speaker
you catching Let's go fast. OK. I figured it out. So that is, I think that's the end of our spoiler free part of this. Do you want to score it before? Oh yeah, I want to score it. I'll let you go first. You let me go first? Yeah. You let me go first. I feel like you always go first in this, but yeah. 88.
00:47:30
Speaker
Wow. Dude, you are the hardest. Jesus. um You're the hardest person to read about films. I have no idea what you say when you walk out or something. Yeah. I just walk out stone faced every time. Unless I'm like. Unless you really love it because then like you're you're like giddy. Yeah. Or I really hate it because then I'm just. Oh, you're vocal. I'm cool, man. You're not a happy person when we go out to bad movies.
00:47:55
Speaker
Um, 88. Holy shit. What are you going to give it? Like a 76? 88 might be a little high, but I did enjoy it. It was very good. Did you hear mine? No. I said 84. All right. Same as smile two. You had to fuck up the three.
00:48:14
Speaker
It's fine. We fucked up the three a long time ago. We did. What was it? Alien Romulus. We were more than three. Mm hmm. Actually, Romulus is almost identical to this, but flip people. Really? I love Romulus. I almost watched it yesterday. Yeah. Yeah, I'm pumped to see what people think of this to see when the tomato audience is going to go up or going to go down. score I feel like people are going to like it. I can't see this being like an angry, angry. Yeah, I can't see it like that at all.
00:48:43
Speaker
It's gonna do numbers. What about that dude that got hit with- This isn't a spoiler. The dude that gets hit with the long ass arrow. Oh, dude. Holy hell and hi with you was like oh yeah. I was waiting for something like that to happen, and then you just went, whoa! Dude, I have a weird- It's all great heavens! Blood doesn't bother me, but stuff like that just gives- I jolt. Like, I don't- I think it bothers me more in film than it does in real Blood in real life doesn't really- It's not an issue. You know what bothered you a lot?
00:49:12
Speaker
that I noticed the wooden sword. Oh, saying exactly. That one you were like score. Yeah, that sent some chills down. And then his line was pretty fucking cool. Yeah, played some bleed. No point is a point. Fucking hell. Um, yeah.
00:49:32
Speaker
Do you have anything you want to add to the spoiler free? I mean, go watch the movie. Yeah. Go watch the movie, come back, listen to the spoiler section and then that should be it. Yeah. Enjoy yourselves. Yeah. Go get a popcorn bucket. Yeah, go get the NFL. You didn't know who MF Doom was. I still have no idea. I don't even listen to rap music and I know who MF Doom was. Is he good? Yeah, he's dead, but he was, unfortunately.
00:50:00
Speaker
He's good. He's very good. And I guarantee you, you've heard his songs before. I just didn't just don't know that. His name is very like. Does it stand for motherfucker? I don't know. I've had no idea. He's very like. Like popular, but never like top of the charts, like an old school rap. No, it's fairly new school, I think. Like and so I've been listening to a lot of Tupac and Biggie recently. Have you? Yeah, sweet. and I'm not like a huge rapper, but I like old school rap. Yeah.
00:50:28
Speaker
I like old Eminem of some shady. Mm hmm. All right. M.F. Doom can't play their music on Spotify. I won't i want to get his first album. Ninety nine. Last album. Twenty one. Almost that came out after I forget what he died. But oh, yes, he's definitely not old school. So I get two thousand. guy Yeah. Yeah. All right. What if you went to the party?
00:50:52
Speaker
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna ask. Yeah, he died in 2020, so. Damn. Whatever, you know. Um, did you see, um, there's a video where it's like Jay-Z knew someone was wearing a wire, and it's, did he give him like that speech? And they're all like sitting with their glasses? No. They're all like smiling, laughing, and he's like talking about, he's like, the party's all like, we used to have boys. And Jay-Z's just like scanning the room like a dead straight man. Like, yo, Jay-Z smells a wire. I gotta stop. I can't, I need to know who was part of these.
00:51:22
Speaker
It's going to come out in like a year and nobody's going to care. I'm going to care. I'm waiting. It's going to be like the Epstein, like ah I've seen flighting time. ever up Yeah. Anytime you bring it up, you're selling a conspiracy like nut job, but the Epstein list came out and everybody was like, all right. No, it didn't. That wasn't the actual list. The most of them.
00:51:39
Speaker
Like the flight list? Yeah, that wasn't real. That wasn't real? No. They still have yet to actually come out. Yeah, and I wouldn't eat too much. You know I'm not one of those guys. Yeah. No, he is. The only thing I'm a conspiracy guy with is JFK, and that's just because that whole situation just doesn't make sense. Yeah. Until Trump releases it. That was one of his promises. Yo, come on. I ah just wonder what happened.
00:52:01
Speaker
The government shot him. There's no, cause there's no fucking way the CIA killed him. I think so too. I think it was on the, on the Hill. Yeah. They shot him in the head twice. Yeah, he got shot three times, one in the chest, two in the neck. I think. That's what I'm saying. There is not a fucking chance that Harvey Osborne made that. And I've told you, I've held the gun. yeah My teacher, a teacher in high school brought in the gun, the Carcano, with the same scope. And he was like, racket. And I was like, three. And he was like, too slow, next. I was like, OK, well, I'm not doing this. You know someone that's from like the UK or someone's listening that's like, hmm, America. These guys are nut chaps. They have guns and, s well,
00:52:43
Speaker
It wasn't loaded. yeah and so One kid broke it. He pulled the ball all the way out. And we were like, oh, no. it was um He was a nice kid.
00:52:55
Speaker
Not bright. No, I'm just a smart kid. is yeah yeah um Well, yeah, if you haven't already clicked on that conversation, make sure to come back and listen to this episode when we finish the podcast. When you finish the movie and then hear what we have to say on the squiggly side of things. Why would you slam that down? I don't know. You just pulled a counter. Instinct.
00:53:19
Speaker
Yeah. um Go do research on ah JFK betting shot by the government, and then go watch Gladiator 2 because it was really good. Then come back and listen to us spoil it, even though you already saw it. Or don't. Or don't see it. Listen to us spoil it and be like, fuck you, Ridley Scott. Don't actually do that. Yeah, you're missing out. Ridley Scott's going to find us.
00:53:41
Speaker
I like really. What do we got now? We got. Oh, really, Scott, the government. France is for Coppola. Diddy. Yeah. Yeah. He's coming for us. Putin. Yeah. Putin's coming for us. J.Lo. Yeah. Ben Affleck. Yeah. No. I'm pointing to my Daredevil poster. J.Lo's coming for you. Affleck's coming for me. Yeah. You got the worst of that one. Actually, J.Lo might get me sent to the Diddy tunnels. Dude. Fucking Russian.
00:54:11
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Batman. The Diddy. And the US government. And Ridley Scott. And Ridley Scott. I don't know what's scarier. Ridley Scott when you talk about Marvel movies or the whole Russian military.
00:54:28
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yeah Or what's left of the Russian military after those numbers. I just want to see Ridley Scott and James Cameron get into like a very heated argument. They definitely have. It's not what's better alien or aliens. Oh, yeah, dude, I need them just like record it and just be like, I feel like James Cameron is what the Russo brothers want to be. I don't know, because they make the big Marvel movies, but I feel like the other movies are kind of smaller. Like they're not small, but the man is not small at all. It's not super small. They did like the cherry.
00:54:59
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Cherry fucking awful what was it like 21 bridges that that was actually a pretty fun movie. Yeah, like that wasn't a small movie though. i was like question Like they're action movies, but they're not like Ridley Scott blockbusters. You know, they're not the $300 million dollar Avengers movies they make. Yeah. but i mean
00:55:21
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Damn it. 33 million, 21 ridges. Yeah. It's a lot bigger than I thought. I thought it was gonna be like, I thought it was gonna be wrong. Yeah. I really like 21 ridges though. It's actually really fun. It was fun. Yeah. Um, no, I more mean like, he's doing these cinematic films and they're just great. Like, he does big budget and they're amazing. Yeah. The Rooster Brothers are making Marvel movies that are unbelievable Marvel movies. The best. Yeah. Yeah, the best. But. Except for X-Men first class. Do you not like first class?
X-Men and Kingsman Praise
00:55:49
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I love X-Men first class. Saying it's not the Russo Brothers. Yeah. It was, um, fucks his name. It's like a popular director, wasn't it? Yeah. together I want to see i'm not Gareth Evans. Gareth Edwards. Yeah. I want to see him do a superhero movie. I really liked the creator. Have you seen that yet? No. Dude, I saw that shit in IMAX. Brought Mike Breslin because you couldn't go. Dude, I remember walking out. I was like, dude, that was, it's the best CGI I've seen in the last like five years.
00:56:17
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Yeah. First class was ah Matthew Vaughn. I like Matthew Vaughn. Yeah, he's good. Solid directive. Argyle wasn't great, but you know. Oh, God, that movie was infuriating. The Kingsman movies kick ass. That's what so I'm saying. Kingsman kick ass, awesome. Yeah. He didn't do Kingsman, the King's man, right? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't know. The King's man, he did direct. Damn.
00:56:43
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It's like his world though. Yeah. It's just it doesn't feel like his movie. No. The Kingsman has a very specific feel to it. Yeah. Which is all I do. The first Kingsman movie is awesome. I like the second one too. The second one's shit, but it's not fun. It's not shit. It's just one of the sadest deaths of movies. It's pretty. Which one? Country Roads. All right. Yeah, that's good. But was it Merlin? Yeah. Have we stopped casting Mark Strong as villains and shit? What if he's a villain and doing prophecy?
00:57:13
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He might, well, he's playing the, uh, a tradies, right? I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure he's the head of the trade. How the fuck did we get from Mark Strong to Oscar Isaac? What was that timeline? I don't know the fucking, uh, some really pretty people. The witches are going strong, protecting them. yeah
Gladiator Fight Scenes and CGI Critique
00:57:30
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Um, back to gladiator. Now that me and mine have people, more on people's hit list.
00:57:36
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Going back to my question earlier, what was your favorite? You didn't have a favorite gladiator moment. I didn't. I think she's favorite. Least favorite.
00:57:47
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I thought the final fight could have been more in the Colosseum. Oh, like him like denzel him trying to save his mom? I feel like they got out of the Colosseum a little too fast. I would have liked to see more of like all the gladiators fighting the- Yeah, I wonder if that was more like Attack of the Clone style. They're still fighting, you're just not going to be able to see it. Yeah. Even though they probably left because they all, you know the end of the movie is them all there.
00:58:08
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That's a two. Oh, yeah, because the other arm is there. I don't know. I just wish that we kind of stayed in the Salsamore fighting with all of the gliders. So do I. I just think it would have been kind of cool. But at the same time, it's not a huge knock because, you know, we got to keep the story moving forward. And, you know, shit went down. But I think the best moment was seeing the rhino come out and just the Hornstar blast and the dude standing on a rhino. That was sick. And his way of beating the rhino like with throwing the dust up. That's pretty cool.
00:58:35
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Yeah. I love the dude that was like, well, how the fuck would we listen to you? And then the rhino starts charging and he's like, all right, break. Then the one dude, the one who won't listen to him gets absolutely fucked. Yeah. Picked up by the horn and pale and then thrown into a pillar. Yeah, when he pulled out the lasso, not lasso, but the little balls that wrap you up. He clicks. He clickers. That was smart though. That's a good weapon to have if you're riding a rhinoceros.
00:59:04
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It's the perfect West. The biggest Rhino I've ever seen in movies was huge. I think they caught that. and I have no idea how do you get because they don't have tranquilizers like that. They probably got some wild shit. They probably just put like a pound of opium. Yeah. That was a funny scene. yeah It's like, here's some open the entire thing was like, hmm. Yeah. You don't know where you're getting into yet, my boy. What?
00:59:30
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Like, why do we always glorify Romans? Like, I feel like in this one, we do kind of see the negatives of them, but they were like bad people. There were some bad ones. They were doing bad stuff to kids. There were some good ones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's some terrible things. Yeah, there were some good ones. There was Marcus Aurelius, and he was a good one. Meditations is cool. Great book. Yeah. That's gotta be weird, being like, this is my...
00:59:59
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is my diary. it's Just 2000 years later, everybody's like, this is some good shit, man. Like, I didn't want you to read it. and every version all it yeah Every single professor is like, you need to read this to be a grown up. First freshman year of high school. Read it. Yeah.
01:00:16
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um
01:00:19
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Anyways, back to the bad CGI part we were talking about. The monkey. The monkeys. The baboons. Didn't look great. I think they were baboons. I think they were supposed to be. Yeah, I think it was baboons. The one he fought was just like hairless. It looked work. I like the idea. And I thought it was really cool to see them because they looked cool when they're in like the dark. Yeah, so much high easier to hide beds.
01:00:39
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But it's just funny when you look at that and then you go look at catching fire when you fight the baboons. Yeah. And those baboons just look so much better. Do they? Yeah, the baboons in normal. Catching fire looks dope. Well, it's also at night. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can hide it in the dark a little bit. Yeah, and they're in the jungle. I feel like the the toughest part was probably the sand. tells When they're kicking up so much dust, like it's got to be impossible to like superimpose that correctly. yeah I don't know if superimpose is the right word, but I think i think it is.
01:01:04
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to like, um put it off. together together Yeah, because it's just it's just the it's, you know, it's regular, you know. tough CGI is just like the outline of it is really shiny and kind of different color than the background in the shadows. Yeah, it was just you know, I'm sure it was incredibly difficult. But I still the way Paul mezcal fought it looks really good. It's kind it had to have been a guy in a suit that he just were just like a little stuffed to animal. They were
Water CGI Challenges and Sharks in Colosseum
01:01:30
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like, this is the dimensions. Hold on. You do see at one point you see his where the monkey hits, you can actually see his skin like pushing. Yeah, hits him.
01:01:37
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Yeah, he was you definitely holding on to something and it looked good. thrown I mean, because I was trying to like pay attention, like cause i I was like, seeing like, expressing these kind of moves. How much are these actors actually doing? Cause I was like, there's no way Denzel is going to fight Paul Mescal. It's just too old. But Denzel does take the first big swing with the sword at him. but I was like watching the, cause then there's a shot where you can tell that they tried to like put his face. It didn't look great. okay Paul Mescal is in there doing his stunts. He's getting his ass beat. Yeah, he was getting roughed up really good. peter to pascal city He had like bruises and cuts all over himself from fighting.
01:02:11
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But yeah, Paul Muskell, they look, him and Pascal looked really great fighting. Like when they're doing, like just not even against each other, when they're doing like the big opening battle. Yeah. That water was rough. The water part? The CGI. Because water was so hard to do. Yeah, it didn't look great. But I think, I think it was like, monkey you know when you look at it, you like, you can just, just something off. Yeah. Cause you know what water looks like. Yeah. Like that's, you know, we're not watching MIMA. A lot of white in it. Yeah.
01:02:38
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Um, how do you feel about that? I know really Scott kind of dodged the question, but sharks in the Coliseum. It's real. There's like things about it. Are there? Yeah. Or did you just see the interview with Ridley Scott? No, there's stuff like I, so I watched the Ridley thing and I went on and looked at it. Okay. I was like, I wonder like, yeah and they do say that there are, that was a thing. Sharks? Maybe not to that extreme where there's boats and. I'm sure they flooded it. Yeah. They definitely did. Sharks though. Like how do you get them in there?
01:03:05
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That's what I was saying. Because that's, you did exactly what Ridley Scott did. The guy was like, the sharks in the Coliseum and Ridley was like, yeah, they filled it with water. Of course they did. Well, I wasn't even thinking about the sharks in your ass and I was trying to, I was just thinking of the water. Yeah. Because I saw the interview with Ridley Scott and he was like, yeah, of course they filled it with water. He just dodged the shark question. There's no fucking way, they didn't have aquariums. There's no fucking way they got sharks. He tried to put a shark in a case and the water just spilled out. Yeah, like what are you doing?
01:03:29
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There's no way they got sharks. I don't believe that. If you want to send me a fucking picture, yeah a picture yeah if you want to send me a fucking cave drawing of um of sharks in the Coliseum, I might possibly, probably not believe you, but I very much disagree. I don't think there were sharks. No, there's no way they oh they had the boats like that. I feel like it was like very small scale water. Yeah. But again, to Ridley Scott's credit, look it's a fucking movie. Have fun. It's awesome. Yeah, it's cool.
01:04:00
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That was so cool when they took all the oars off to make sure the thing couldn't move. yeah And the dudes were just getting impaled by the broken shards. ah Really has a way of doing this close looking action. Dude, the most painful part of the movie for me, just because I rode in high school, the opening scene when they're all rowing, all the Romans are rowing. Is that right? They land. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty good. the you know It's difficult because the seat doesn't move and their legs don't move, so it's just upper body, which is just fucking tough.
01:04:27
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but um when they like hit land and all of the guys with the oars, the oars come back on them and like hit them in the chest and they're all like, Oh, I'm bending back, dude. Does it hurt so fucking bad? When you like catch the water wrong and the or just goes right back into your chest or your fucking stomach. Oh, it hurts so bad. God damn.
01:04:49
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Brought back so many awful memories. It's so funny how, like, that happens when you're watching something. Yeah. It's like a quick moment. Your brain just goes back to him. Yeah. He was like, fuck. Fuck. That hurts so bad. That's me now when I probably watched the beginning of Full Metal Jacket. Yeah. I'm like, God. You're rowing with some freshman who's just kicking too hard and just balancing it into your fucking chat. Oh, god damn it. and Oh, I always had to bow freshman boats because I was the only senior. Fuck it. Oh, man, they suck so bad.
01:05:17
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Some of them got really good. Now that they're not that they're older, they're they're great rowers. Man, those freshmen boats first. on This is just one of those podcasts. We're just not. oh fucking po ah The stern never worked. Old ass boats. Not the stern. the um Shit. What was it called? Already forgetting. This gag. This gag. Never turned. I couldn't turn it with my foot so I'd have to call Bowerport. Not Bowerport. Fuck. Port or Starbird. God damn it. Port or Starbird. And they just never figured out which one was which. I was very upset.
Spielberg's New Film and CGI Expertise
01:06:01
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Anyways, back to Gladiator. I have some breaking news. Oh, you have some breaking news.
01:06:06
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Challenger star Josh O'Connor has signed on to star in Steven Spielberg's latest feature project, which already has Emily Bulling, Cole Domingo, and Colin Firth and Eve Houston on the call sheet. This is Spielberg's first tentpole production since 2018's Ready Player One. It's based on the story by the filmmaker and screenplay by David Coop, who previously worked with Steven Spielberg on Jurassic Park and India Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The film was set to release on May 15th of 2026.
01:06:32
Speaker
So back to Gladiator. what I just didn't understand a word you said. No, okay. um No, you got the guy from Challengers making a Spielberg movie with some big guys and the guy who wrote Jurassic Park and something or else. God damn it, Thomas. I'm sorry. Twice. I was muting it. Jesus. Gladiator. The Gladiator fights are very cool. Did you hear the guy walking out behind us? He said he said he liked the fights better in this movie.
01:07:01
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and two I felt they looked cleaner. Yeah. Like to how they, and you didn't see a, you didn't see a canister in the thing this time. Yeah. Yeah. In the chariot. Yeah, there it is. good
01:07:17
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Damn. The tigers weren't, you know, like superimposed onto them afterwards. Which still looks fine. There are scenes on this one, looking, watching the old one, like original Glade. They're just like, man. Yeah. CGI really has come such a long way. A very long way.
01:07:33
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yeah Even though we get some really terrible ones now when they rush things. And then you watch the creator and you're like, this is the greatest thing ever. Yeah. Well, it's also such a big part of the director you're working on it. Because Gareth Edwards- He like knows it. He's the guy. If you want to do a big CGI movie, Gareth Edwards is the go. Oh, and juase he's doing the new Jurassic Park. He is. That's going to be so fucking good. Yeah, I hope so. Radar too.
Gladiator 2's Plot and Character Analysis
01:07:59
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I just need to see them rip people apart. I just need mauling. Dude, I'm telling you, go watch Jurassic Park 2. They rip the fucking hero of the movie. They rip his ass in half. I feel like that's because like back then, you could kind of get away with that. Kind of. Because there's some movies that are PG that I watched. I'm like, there's not a fucking chance it's PG. Yeah. All right. What else? um Joseph Quinn and the other guy, who I forget his name, the the two emperors.
01:08:23
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Let's talk about him chameleon. Yeah, Fred hatching her. Cool. They were great. and They did a really good job. I like seeing him kind of. I mean, it was very frustrating because Joseph Quinn, they're both nuts. It just like, you know, ah walking Phoenix wasn't the first one. If you have that much power, you're just kind of going crazy. um Especially when incest and all this shit's yeah. Marcus Aurelius fucking dog. But um,
01:08:52
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They were both fantastic. I think they did a really good job. I think it was very frustrating to see Joseph Quinn be kind of the more stable one, definitely the more stable one. Definitely the more stable. The one is also because he has something wrong with him. Yes, he has disease. That line is like the disease is moving from his loins to his brain. like ah He tried to strangle me with my umbilical. Do you remember that? Yes. How can I forget? i yeah He's like my consciousness. yeah yeah But um it was very frustrating to see Denzel become what he became.
01:09:29
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Although I think that was my favorite part of the movie was seeing it how it it played out very like Game of Thrones, he was like, everybody was playing their own part. It wasn't everyone had their own plans. yeah Yeah, it was really good. Because I was very nervous when we first started watching it. The beginning the first like half of this movie is just gladiator one. It really is. It's the same movie. It's like the halfway point where it really turns into its own thing. And I was like, Oh, shit. Okay, this isn't because it needs to find its way to kind of differ.
01:09:57
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Yeah, it starts off very, very similar, which is understandable, because it's the same story. It's the, you know, the guy becomes a slave, turns into a gladiator, and he has to fight. and wife bla Yeah, blah, blah, blah. It's the same thing. Same motivation, same everything. But um yeah, where this movie finds itself halfway through when Enzel starts fucking scheming by his own.
01:10:16
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Because you start the movie and you're like, all right, Denzel's, you know, ah he's going to be like the guy from the first one, and like kind of a good guy, but still fighting for himself. But, you know, he cares a little bit about Maximus or or Lucius. Lucius, lucci luccius Lucius, Lucius Malfoy.
01:10:31
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um He kind of cares for him, but then the movie goes on and you're like, oh no, Denzel's just here for himself. He's just scheming. And it gets 10 times better for that point on, for me, because it felt so Game of Thrones-y. Everybody's going for the throne themselves. Maybe not the throne. Lucius doesn't care about it. They want power. They want it as strong as possible. They all want their own thing, and he'll go against anybody he needs to, which was super fun. Yeah, the best person in this movie is Pedro Pascal. He's the most honest and once good.
01:11:00
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Yeah. Even Paul Mezcal, he is just a he just killed people. He's just rage. Yeah. Yeah. Which is a that scene with him and Denzel and Denzel talks about rage. He's like, you're going to become my tool. Yeah. He says like some guys go for show, some guys go for strength. I go for rage. And you are. That was an awesome scene. Denzel was amazing. Like he was he really might win himself an Oscar. Fuck around win himself. And I was like acting this one. Yeah. It was like I said earlier in the spoiler free, like Paul Mezcal is not and acting like a ton because he, I mean, he is, a that you know what I'm trying to say. yeah because he yeah not That's not what he sounds like. Like he is playing a character. He's definitely trying, but he's just rage. Which makes sense. The dude has nothing. It was very cool. Kai Nelson. Still, first of all, aging fantastic.
Cultural Heritage and Food Traditions
01:11:50
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Why?
01:11:52
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Say why? Why? Oh, wine I was like, Jesus. Yeah, no, I love Connie Nelson. She's great. Um, yeah, I wish that was my problem. My biggest thing is I wish she kind of had more do she very much felt like a damsel in distress. The entire movie. Yeah, and they kind of seem like they wanted to play the idea of her making a run.
01:12:10
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Just doesn't, it's very short lived. Yeah, you're not gonna. This is Rome. Yeah, then I'll end on this stuff. A horse, a monkey? Fine. Women? Never. Of course not. What are we savages? No, we're Italians. Hey. Do not lump us all in this together. These are your people, Tom. No, these are my people.
01:12:35
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No, it's just my home. No, you're not. I hate you so much. You go, yeah, I'm totally Irish. And then you eat spaghetti once, and you're like, dude, I love being Italian. I do love being Italian. i was My favorite holiday. Pick one. Irish. Perfect. Same holiday as my favorite day of the year. You're never allowed to be ah Italian again. our That's not how this works. kind of getting Dude, I had a Galamkis the other day. What? Galamkis. What the fuck did you just say?
01:13:05
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I hate, I hate mont Italian. What the fuck is it? Polish. Of course it's Polish. My other heritage. I am like a quarter Polish. A quarter? A lot. Don't say it. Don't say it. I know what you want to say. um Look at us yelling. We said we'd be tired. We're both so fucking tired. A galangi is a very popular.
01:13:31
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It's a very popular dish that my mom used to make a lot. But it's it takes Lee all day to make. What are you reading? What what what entails this dish? I'm going to explain to you. What? A Gollumky. A Gollumky. A Gollumky, yes. Can you spell this? Yes. G-O-L-U-M-P-K-I. Gollumky. All right. K-I makes sense. home so But it takes all days. And my mom was a stay-at-home mom now. she's not So she can't really make these dishes. But she had a day off. Correct.
01:14:02
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I was supposed to take Sam out to dinner. Part of the time, my mom's like, I'm making Gollumky. I'm like, Sam, we're not going out to dinner. We're going to eat Gollumky. Gollumky is made in a big dish, and it's just ground beef and white rice wrapped in cabbage. Wrapped in cabbage? Yeah, like cabbage, like little burritos, it looks like. And then it has sauce on top of it. So what kind of sauce? Just tomato sauce? Tomato sauce. Just tomato sauce. Fucking love it.
01:14:29
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I love cabbage. I'm a Do you not like cabbage? It's just so funny to say. it's just It's just the most... It's just a crunch, that's it. No, you got you make it with some ham. You get a little bit of a break to it, but it's not too crunchy. so Do you eat this ah before or after paying tribute to your king? Because this sounds like peasant food.
01:14:52
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this is not my this doesn't sound like an all day like great family meal this sounds like you're at the end of your rope and just like i got i got some beef and rice and cabbage let me throw this in a pot i don't think i ever like as a kid really like took the meat out and then just ate the cabbage because that's what i was doing and i like spit them apart i was sitting there looking at the meat So you weren't eating Gollumky, you were eating cabbage meat. No, I was trying to cut it up and like, because it's like a thick thing of meat, so it kind of rolls out. So does it combine, like, come together? It's like a solid brick. Or is it like a non-solid soup? You just scoop out a bunch? Or is it like a- Oh, it's like a solid roll of cabbage that you then take out. Oh, you roll it in the cabbage soup? Yeah. Oh, OK. I thought the cabbage was like in the, OK. But I was looking at the meat, and I was like, man.
01:15:42
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This is just gray meat. Yeah, that's sad. It's really good, though. All right. I had i had it laid for two days. All right. How did we get here? Oh, I was talking shit on Italians. Oh, and then I had a Polish food. No, I brought a turkey. Okay.
01:15:57
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This is so fucking stupid. What do you want to talk about in Gladiator? You're talking about a what's her name. I'm very sorry. I don't know. Connie Nelson. Connie Nelson. Fantastic. Aging beautifully. Like fine wine. Absolutely. Not like milk as Nick Cassianas talks about. No, I've kind of, I've said most of my piece.
01:16:18
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Yeah, I think it is if you like cut the movie in half hour and 15 minutes. The first hour 15 is what you said it is literally gladiator one. Yeah, just different actors. But the second hand lead finds itself you know, totally different spot from the second from the original, yeah which I love. I love the way they made it more politics. It's really going to show the fall of her own.
01:16:42
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And I like that it does kind of set up a third movie. Like, that really talked about it. He wants to make the third with Paul Mescal. You can kind of see where it's gonna... Yeah, you're still kicking. You're gonna see everything fall. Yeah. Because Rome... I don't know if you knew this. Rome did fall. I know. I just also realized none of the main cast is alive except him.
01:17:04
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Oh yeah. Denzel, Pedro, Connie, Joseph, Fred, all fucking dead. Yeah, they're all done. Is the monkey still alive? The monkey definitely got eaten. That's rough. Yeah. Do you think that- I forgot the monkey's name. I don't know. There was something with a B, I think. I don't know. It was very funny, because you afterwards, when I was like, yeah, I can't believe that happened in real life. When Caligula made his horse a senator, you were like, that happened? It's a while. Yeah. Caligula was crazy. I thought it was Nero last night. I was wrong. Nero did not make his horse a senator. It was Caligula. Was Nero a good leader? Nero was not a good leader. Nero played the fiddle while Rome burned. Really? Which is a quote that is not true because he never played a fiddle. He played some other instrument. Reminded of people. But also was not in Rome.
01:17:56
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There's some like weird history that I kind of forget, but the saying that Nero fiddled as Rome burned is not true. He was somewhere else and didn't know about it until afterwards because you know they couldn't text. Yo, dude, for real, Rome on fire. Rome is literally burning down right now. like The whole city of Rome is fucked. Twitch stream, just Rome's on fire, hashtag it. He's on crack streams watching it.
01:18:25
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I'm just like, nah, I'm going to watch Jon Jones. Oh, I got a question about Jon Jones knocking out Stipe. I didn't realize Stipe was 40 years old. Yeah, that fight should never happen. That was elder abuse,
Denzel Washington's Oscar Potential
01:18:40
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Jon. Jon, he's 37. Jon Jones is like 28. It is Jon Jones. Jon Jones is the baddest man on the world. Ever. Yeah. Like Mike Tyson's up there.
01:18:52
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John Jones, John Jones is if you if you had if someone's gonna kill you in a street fight, like who's the dude on the side? It's John Jones. Yeah, John Jones is terrifying. John Jones will kick the shit out of you. Fucking look like he was gonna kick a hole through Stephen. Steep it. Steep it, whatever. I don't care about John Jones, baby.
01:19:14
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um Oh, I didn't even talk about the Hound being in this movie. Oh, yeah. Forget his name. He's not a very tall guy, it looked like. I thought he was tall. I think he's a pretty big guy. I mean, he was kind of like crouched down the whole time. That is true. Talking to people, because everybody else is short. Except Denzel, 6-1. And he still had a crouch down to talk to Denzel, so yeah. But he played the main kind of... Like the head guard. Roman soldier, I guess. I mean, like Emperor Guard.
01:19:39
Speaker
He's wearing a helmet the whole time, but I saw his face. He does lean the army. He was wearing a helmet, but I was like, that voice sounds familiar. And then I saw him again. I'm like, that's the hell. We're really good at that. I am. Skill. Thank you. But yeah, I liked what they did. I really liked the filmmaking. I think Ridley just knows this era of time. Because I don't care what Naniya said. Kingdom of Heaven, director's cut. Fucking great. Yep. That's how you're going to be.
01:20:09
Speaker
What? King Baldwin. Fucking love that. I love that edward everyone didn't want to be credited, though. Yeah, he's so good. then Let me die. Yeah, I got to watch the movie. You never see it. Never seen either. Because definitely don't watch the original. OK, so fucking text just like straight up. Ignore it. Yeah. Just watch rest watch drive direct because I want I wanted to watch the original and then the director could do that. and You know, I wanted to see what the studio was like. This needs to be cut down. Yeah. But then the director is just cool.
01:20:39
Speaker
Window Bloom, baby. Man had a heck of a fucking run. Absolutely. It's on top of the world. If I had married Katy Perry and settled down. Can't blame him much. That is fair. You know, just relax. I did it. He does do a TV show now where he does like crazy stuff. He climbs like mountains and climbs. He seems like that kind of guy. I want to meet Orlando. I'll talk to him when they were paddle boarding naked a couple of years ago.
01:21:06
Speaker
Wow. Good for him. Good for them. Yeah. Living his best life. Absolutely. But I have nothing else to add to. Gladier too. I really liked it. I think we need to go see it. I think I'm probably going to go watch it again. Hope I can find a time where it's an IMAX. Yeah. Go see it. IMAX would be sweet. I'm going to go see it with my dad probably next week. My likes it. My dad wants to see it.
01:21:29
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I think every guy what likes gladiator. Yeah, it's just it's just the perfect guy movie. I guess some of those videos where it's like, girl, she I want to die slowly. I want to die with my family. I was I didn't like men just
Film Preferences: Braveheart vs. Gladiator
01:21:40
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in like a gladiator pitches. Yeah, I'm into that gladiator and brave heart of the two. Ah, hell yeah. Braveheart. I like Braveheart more than gladiator. Yeah. Really? Big Braveheart guy.
01:21:53
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Yeah, I can't. I can't blame you. That's the guy time traveling in the background. Yeah, I might agree in the car. It's cool. Yeah, that's my new thing. It's just time traveling. It's not it's not a mess. Yeah, you just came. No, it's the guy from the game. You just came in with a truck. You know, if I can. Oh, yeah, dude, is that once I can come out and get that. Yeah, I might agree. Braveheart is better than gladiator. I don't know if it's better. I like it more. Yeah, I might give you that. Yeah, I love the end of Braveheart. So good. Makes me makes me always get a little emotional. Oh, and a little.
01:22:24
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I love the Irish dude who's the, um, ah they're all Irish, but yeah, they're not. They're Scottish, whatever. The Irish dude. Yeah, they are Scottish. The Irish guy who's like, God's going to protect me. You're fucked. like So funny. He's done some good, like time periods. Yeah. Did that. And he did apocalyptic, which he directed the weapon. hackx all
01:22:49
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Hey, this is very specific. Nineties in San Francisco is a very specific time period. Absolutely. Nineties. That's the eighties, right? The first one is eighties. Really? Yeah. Okay. My first two. I got you. But then it's nineties. Do you have anything else you want to add? No, I'm done. All right. Well, what is your recommendation of the week for everyone?
01:23:09
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Braveheart. He's a I'm going to recommend Apocalypse, though, then. I'm going to rock with the Mo Gibson run. All right. It's a really good movie. Everyone needs to check it out. None of the people in the movie are actors. Yeah, and it is. One of his best movies might be his best direct film. He shall leave the weapon five comes out, which he is directing. Yeah. Yeah, he's he's relaxed. We can't believe Danny. We can't believe Danny Glover's come back. Is he? are We live in five. Oh, yeah.
01:23:38
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Sweet. How the fuck are they going to move? They're old as hell. They were getting their ass tired 20 years ago. They've been getting their ass over been four. It was in the 90s. Mel Gibson has like short hair. They cut Mel Gibson's hair. It's unfortunate. But thank you guys so much for tuning into this week's episode. We'll be back to talk about. I have no fucking clue what's coming out. We were reviewing Wicked. What? We were reviewing Wicked.
01:24:08
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Probably not. Okay. I have no interest. Neither do I. I'm not a musical guy. I know. You like one? Yeah, you tick tick boom. I'm like greatest showman. Oh, you like greatest showman? I don't mind musicals. I'm just, you know. It's not like a cup of tea. I don't like them. I don't like plays very much. I love plays. I'm not a huge theater man. I'm going to see Christmas Carol on Walnut Street. Right? That should be pretty cool. But yeah, thank you guys so much for seeing.
01:24:37
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We'll be back to talk about something. Yeah, we'll be back at some point, sometime somewhere. I don't know. Go eat your, uh, pumpkin or whatever that is. bu dead's the cake