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Speaker: Okay, so today I have the honor and privilege of welcoming back Ricky Verandas back on Connecting Minds. We haven't done an episode on the podcast in quite a while, so it's great to have you back, Ricky. Just to tell the folks a little bit about you, Ricky is
Speaker: the host of the ripple effect podcast, which is a podcast I have recommended on connecting minds before highly encourage you to check out his I've just checked out his guest list the last few days and it's a who's who of awesome people. So with that said, Ricky, how have you been lately, buddy? Well, thanks for having me back again. And it has been a while. So I'm curious to know if you're still in my home country of Portugal.
Speaker: I'd rather get cancelled for telling the truth than self -censor. But I also see that perspective of it too. I know many people were self -censoring a little bit because YouTube is a way of reaching those people who maybe need to be reached. So I get that aspect of it too to try to stay on there. But if you go to TheRippleFectPodcast .com, you can find all the channels, all the social media platforms I'm on.
Speaker: I am indeed.
Speaker: just about everything and anything is on there. You'll also find my other show, which you've been on before also called The Union of the Unwanted, which is a big Zoom conference call, round table type of show where we bring in different thinkers and podcasters and researchers. And we just share knowledge and bounce ideas off each other. And that show
Speaker: just hit one million downloads which you know doesn't seem like much but for a show that only has 50 i don't know we're in like early 58 episodes i think 52 53 i don't know somewhere around there um
Speaker: And we only do it every other Monday. And it's only been around since 2020. That's pretty impressive because, you know, I've been doing my show since 2013, but the human unwanted is fairly new. So it hit a thousand or a million downloads pretty quickly, I would say, especially dealing with the fact that we didn't, we couldn't use YouTube. We got banned off YouTube and it's a pretty censored show and.
Speaker: Initially, a lot of people were sharing it on their platforms on their RSS feeds because we always let the guests share it if they would like. So who knows how many more times people listen to that it wasn't, you know, counted on a pod beam.
Speaker: But yeah, so those are my two shows. Very similar to your show in regards to some of the topics that I like to discuss like health and nutrition and that type of stuff and parenting, kids, psychology, I mean everything and anything. I have a little bit of like
Speaker: ADD in regards to topics so I it's nice to have the freedom and flexibility to jump from one show to another and that type of stuff and anytime I get bored with a topic I can you know dive into another rabbit hole and then get a guest that focuses on that so it's fun and you can
Speaker: You learned so much from all these topics. I feel like some of the most interesting people I've talked to haven't necessarily been experts in one field, but it's been people who are also as curious as I am and double dabble in a lot of different topics and you can kind of take little things from all the rabbit holes you kind of went down.
Speaker: It's fun and as you know, being a host yourself, you grow a lot from being able to pick the brains of people that you're a fan of. It's amazing. What's your star sign, by the way? My star sign? I don't know. You're a Zodiac. Oh, well, I'm April 19th. I knew it. I knew you're an Aries. I'm an Aries. I knew you.
Speaker: I knew you're an Aries. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just because we're like so similar in terms of like a collecting different interests. This lately, April 19th, right? I have this amazing book called The Secret Language of Birthdays. And every day of the year, there's a couple of pages on the type of person that that person is.
Speaker: And man, I'm the 9th of April and I am basically, it might as well, the guy might as well have freaking followed me all my life and written about me, right? So pretty accurate. I'm going to screenshot the pages and send them over to you over the next few days.
Speaker: Um, hopefully, uh, you, you let me know if it's true or not. Um, you know, if, if, if it matches, but dude, I've, I've, I've had, you know, a couple of dozen people at this point or more, maybe read their profile. They're like, wow, this is pretty amazing. This is quite awesome. But listen, I want to let, let me ask you this. Now you've had a lot of amazing people lately on your podcast. What, um, what is like your, what are the topics?
Speaker: that you think are the most pressing, the most important subjects of our current time that we can discuss tonight? Well, one guest that I've had on recently, actually a couple of guests I've had on recently that I'm really proud of and I think are really important is one was Dr.
Speaker: Epstein and Robert Epstein. Dr. Robert Epstein was on the Joe Rogan podcast. He was recently on my show. He has just some amazing, amazing research. He's one of the few people that
Speaker: have a team and all they do is look at how big tech companies and a lot of their focus is Google and what they're doing to manipulate us, spy on us, control us, and censor us.
Speaker: He is just, he understands the ins and outs of it. And I'm so glad I got in touch with him because his Rogan podcast, it was one that like I, when I heard it like blew my mind, I'm like, Oh my God, like the insight he has, and he's a Harvard
Speaker: PhD He he I believe he got his psychology degree under BF Skinner who's one of the most, you know famous American psychologist and Really smart guy but big in a tech obviously also and I mean when he was on the Rogan podcast I mean he was trying to get Rogan to understand like this is much bigger Than just hey, they're listening to us. This is social engineering. This is literally controlling the way we feel
Speaker: the way we think the way we perceive the world and anybody who has that type of power like we have to take it seriously and so I was so glad to have him on and to kind of dive deep into that topic and shine some light on
Speaker: His work and also his appearance on JRE because I was kind of stunned that not a lot of people in the alternative media community people even my circles Didn't bring up that episode that much, you know, like you when I heard it I'm like, oh everybody's gonna be talking about it because I'm like this is I mean to go on the biggest podcast in the world and go this deep into this topic it's just crazy and then he has this just insane story about what happened to his wife and
Speaker: which will pull your heartstrings because I don't know if you listened to the episode but he has a part in the JRE episode and we had him talking about it on my show too which I was like okay I don't know if he wants to talk about it but I feel like this kind of puts into perspective how important and serious this issue is. He talks about how at a conference, I don't know if it was a conference with a bunch of politicians or whatever but he was speaking and after the speaking engagement somebody came up to him and
Speaker: somebody high -ranked and I think he might have even said who it was on the JRE show. But he says that this guy comes up to him and says, hey, I'd be really worried about the stuff that you're talking about and the people that you're exposing and all this stuff. And then he basically says something around
Speaker: the lines of like, Hey, I think your, your life is at risk. Like you could be in danger. I wouldn't be surprised if something happens the next couple months. So, and then Rogan says, well, you know, what happened to anything happened? He's like, well, I didn't die obviously, but my wife got in a car accident. She passed away. And, uh, you just saw Rogan's face and rarely do you ever see like Rogan be so stunned
Speaker: that there's like silence but after he said that it hit like it hit Rogan how serious this could be and how like you know could have been coincidence obviously it could be but you know who knows and when you're dealing with the most powerful entities in the world anything is possible I mean mobsters and gangsters I've always say this like mobsters and gangsters have killed each other for much less to think that like powerful entities that have tons of resources
Speaker: It wouldn't take somebody out who's a threat to them or send a message. I'm like that type of stuff happens all the time. So why wouldn't that happen in regards to Google or politicians in America? We have this like this weird perspective of America that we think like political assassinations like when we hear a story about a political assassination in China or we hear about it in Russia or one of these foreign countries that have been kind of demonized as
Speaker: and kind of painted in a way that they're worse than we are, then it's completely acceptable. We say, oh, we hear that Putin killed this guy for this reason. It's like, oh, yeah, not a problem. But you talk about the Clinton body count. All of a sudden, people are like, oh, that's a conspiracy theory. I'm like, how is it any different? It's almost like we have this idea that all this stuff that happens in other countries, we draw a line and we wouldn't go over that line.
Speaker: that were morally better than the end it's like no we're not we're just like better at lying about it and and and that's basically the same thing happened I remember when the Ukraine invasion happened and you know we're talking about oh I forget which show maybe it was a union of them wanted episode where I was talking about how the only difference between
Speaker: russia going to ukraine and us going to iraq or afghanistan or any other unjustified wars that we get involved in is that we have a better pr team because because really the only difference is that like we we sold it to the public first that like hey we have to do this right and we waited till we sold it to the public then we acted so at least we made a attempt to justify it where
Speaker: Go ahead. I think you said that you were interviewing Alex Craner. I listened to that episode with him that you did. I think it was back in March or something. I listened to it this week. You were saying that, I remember. It's totally right. It's also funny that you mentioned the Clinton body count. I was listening to
Speaker: macro aggressions with Charlie Robinson. I was listening to the, I think the Clinton body count episode he has today or yesterday, but it's exactly right, man. It's all about the PR and of course the false flags. I think right now an important thing to probably
Speaker: more people need to be aware of is you can see this energy crisis that's happening in Europe. You can see, you can plainly see that they're putting the chess pieces into play, that at any point in time, the grid can go down, the internet can go down, and it immediately can be scapegoated with China, Russia, whoever else, North Korea, aliens, you know, Jesus' second coming, you know, so this is,
Speaker: It's, you know, anyone that says anyone says this is conspiracy theories at this point is just plain ignorant and an apathetic, I think. Would you not agree? Oh, absolutely. But, you know, COVID, like Joe Biden recently said, COVID is done. And he said in a recent press conference and everybody got upset. I'm like, why are you upset? Like, we should be happy that he's saying it. But
Speaker: you know it's one of those things it's like people have been so brainwashed and believing that this issue is much bigger than really is and that there's this war on you know it's kind of reminded of like the war on drugs or the war on whatever the war on terror it's like it's a never -ending war and now because we've
Speaker: declared a war on this thing. Like we must continue battling it until it's completely demolished and completely disappeared from the face of the earth, which is completely impossible. So it makes zero sense that people are still worried about this war on COVID. It's like people get sick. People always get sick. People will forever get sick. And the way we handle people getting sick now is so
Speaker: different than before, like before it was like
Speaker: you know, even if you had like a little bit of a runny nose, you went to work because it's like your boss would yell at you. They found out that you stayed at home for a mild cold, you know? And now it's like, if you have any symptom whatsoever, like God forbid you go to work and you could spread COVID, you know? So it's like, it's completely different the way we look at the world and the way we handle things. And people are still, I know people personally in my personal life who get sick and they're still testing for COVID. I'm like, why?
Speaker: i'm like why are you testing for covid i'm like who cares what virus got you sick or you know i'm like you're not first of all and you know this it's it is um a little confusing for some people because you're actually not testing for covid because covid is the disease you know i'm like you're testing for the virus
Speaker: and it doesn't really tell you anything like if it's mild if the symptoms are mild then it's like who cares if you have which virus like it doesn't like it shouldn't matter and you know this idea that like the flu is now we openly can say this without getting banned off youtube like the flu is like more dangerous especially young people than uh the coronavirus and yet like people are are are still like trying to
Speaker: put an end to COVID and just ignoring these statistics. And, you know, I had a woman on who, and you might have seen the podcast I just uploaded not too long ago, a couple days ago, whenever it was, from, can we talk about it campaign, and what it is, it's an organization where they're gathering all this information, statistics, and helping people who have been vaccine injured.
Speaker: And so there's like this huge amount of people that have had some type of injury or death because of the COVID vaccine. And again, another topic and another thing that nobody wants to talk about. It's almost like we devalued deaths and injuries by anything else. And we've
Speaker: now we only value people who are sick from COVID. It's like, if you're sick from COVID, it's like, oh my God, that poor thing, they're sick. But if you get injured by the vaccine, it's like, well, it's rare.
Speaker: Yeah, what's you know, it's just it's it's wild But the good thing is I and I keep saying this and I'm a kind of an optimistic person So I try to be optimistic and I think people are much more skeptical of science. I think science has been Exposed for the fraud that that is deep rooted in so much of it where people are now much more open like if I said I
Speaker: 15 -20 years ago, like, fluoride's bad for you. People are like, oh, no, my dentist recommends it. You know, fluoride's not bad for you. But now you say it and it's like, yeah, maybe it is bad for you. Maybe they're lying to you about fluoride. Maybe they're lying to you about this. Maybe they're lying to you about that.
Speaker: Rogan just had a a podcast with this guy max something I don't even know what his name is but I just started listening to it and he started talking about Alzheimer's and all the like the Fuzzy science behind that and how we're not quite sure what causes it and all this stuff and I remember watching a documentary years ago about that how like the fundamental foundation that
Speaker: Alzheimer's science was based on was all like bullshit. And it's like, you go down some rabbit holes, and you find out that like, a lot of our nutritional and health science and statistics and history is based on like some really flimsy evidence. Yeah, assumption. And that's, that's a perfect word. Because that's literally what they are. Like you can, you know, so many studies cannot be recreated.
Speaker: So if that means that, you know, you're assuming like, okay, this, this leads to that, but there's so many variables on what, like, that could be slightly changed, that could completely change the outcome. And a lot of times, if you are looking for a outcome, you will ignore evidence, you know, to
Speaker: to kind of get the outcome you want. So, you know, and you know this better than I do, because I mean, you're much more scientifically minded than I am. And I mean, has, have you always been skeptical of science? Or do you think that now more than ever, you know, people have kind of lost their faith in and using the word just science and using a general
Speaker: word like
Speaker: you know,
Speaker: into nutrition and health. He was into other types of science. And then somebody's like, hey, you want because you would write about bad science. And then a buddy of his is like, hey, you want to find some really bad science? Go look into the health and nutrition world. And then he went in there. And that's when he ended up exposing the sugar industry. Gary Taubes is so awesome. I so I've read the case against sugar.
Speaker: Good calories, bad calories, I've listened to that on audiobook. For some reason, I can't get the physical book and why we get fat. Dude, anybody listening, if you need some clarity on what really makes you sick, it's his books. And the guy, he's a journalist, isn't he? That's his background, right?
Speaker: He's not necessarily like, okay, this kind of goes back to the science question, I think. So I was talking with my chiropractor today, the man's in this game for 40 years. He's from the States. And he gets it, man. He gets it, right? But
Speaker: like all these PhDs out there, right? Why were they the biggest dupes when it came to the jab and the science of the jab? Why were the ones drinking the Kool -Aid? Because when you were indoctrinated in the school system, I have massive problems with the school system, you know, when you're indoctrinated that way, it's like, how are you ever going to see anything different? You know, if you're a doctor, if you went through what I think
Speaker: medical school I would liken it to trauma -based mind control because it's such a traumatic series of events and so many sacrifices and sleepless nights and and other stresses in order to get that medical degree and you know along the the whole time you're getting this
Speaker: you're blasted into your head on a daily basis nearly. How can you ever, I'm actually surprised so many doctors have turned onto the function of medicine paradigm and have been able to break out. But if you look at, I can't remember the name of the lady, I bought her book. I have a couple of her books. She had a book about depression. So she went, she felt she had depression, she went to her doctor,
Speaker: And she's a doctor, obviously, and she was prescribing antidepressants for years and years to women. She goes to her doctor friend with the same problems that she's been treating with antidepressants. And her friend is like, okay, slap these antibiotics, you know.
Speaker: uh on the table and she's like are you kidding me is this all you can offer me is this all the pinnacle of medicine can offer me so that's when she figured out oh shit it's it's uh diet lifestyle nutrition you know emfs um gratitude all those you know 20 different things and i'm so i'm actually surprised after eight years and you know before that whatever 10 years of schooling
Speaker: of indoctrination i'm surprised so many people have broken out of the the mind control you know but let me ask you actually this uh i'm kind of curious since you got banned from youtube has your just your rss podcast has that been growing i'm just the reason i ask is do you think we're ever gonna reach a critical mass or do you think we're completely fucked as a society
Speaker: Well, you know, I was kind of curious myself what, once I got banned off YouTube, a lot of my viewership didn't come from YouTube because what I would do is I would age restrict my channel. And that way I couldn't reach as many people because a lot of other YouTubers are like, that's going to screw you big time. Because what's going to happen is that like people are going to have to be signed in to watch it or whatever. And they're not going to suggest it as much because they're going to think it could be controversial or whatever.
Speaker: So I was curious if that, you know, hurt me a little bit, but I'm like, you know what, this way I'll go under the radar and maybe I can sustain a little bit longer, which I did because I had Dr. Robert Malone on, Dr. Quite a few people, Del Big Tree and you know, Corbett and a bunch of people. And I was one of the, one of the last shows that was kind of hanging on and surviving that really wasn't self -censoring.
Speaker: And then eventually I started getting strikes all at once. It was like strike after strike, after strike, after strike. And I'm like, okay, this is not going to turn out good. And thanks to my buddy from Content Save, Matt Raymer, who's the CEO of Content Save. We have a mutual friend, Richard Grove, who's the host of Grand Theft World. And also, yeah, yeah, Richard's awesome. And so Matt's like,
Speaker: Richard told me about Matt and he's like, as a friend of mine, he's like, I think his service would be helpful for you. And what he does is that when I upload to one platform, one video platform, because I have a host podcast company that I work with, so they're the ones who send my audio to Spotify, iTunes and all that stuff. So that's not a big deal.
Speaker: the video is always a pain in the ass because there's multiple platforms and each one slightly different and you have to you know video takes longer upload so you have to upload video then thumbnails and then put in the description all that stuff and it can be super time consuming but I knew my life on YouTube wasn't going to be much longer so Matt
Speaker: helped out by helping with his... Honestly, I have no idea how he does it, but with his software or program, however he does it, I upload to... I used to upload to YouTube and it would sync to all my channels and then I got kicked off YouTube, so now I upload to Odyssey first and then it syncs to my Rockfin, my Rumble channel, my... What's that? You said content safe.
Speaker: Yeah content safe. So if you go to content safe .co or if you go to my website the ripple effect podcast .com or rickybrands .com or Ricardobrands .com because I bought all the URLs that are related to me. They all go to my website and if you go on my website you'll see the link to content safe and you know it's awesome service for content creators.
Speaker: if you're a streamer or whatever, just because it saves you tons of time. So I upload to one place and then he syncs it to, you know, and I'm on Float, Rumble, Rockfin, Mines, Bitchute, Odyssey. So they sync Band .video. I think next month I'll be connecting with some more European listeners because I'll be on Iconic.
Speaker: which is David Icke's platform. So it'll be cool, yeah. So he syncs it with all of them, so it saves me tons of time. But yeah, so I guess to finally answer your question, after I got kicked off YouTube, I'm like, okay, is it gonna suppress my show a little bit? I'm like, I didn't get a whole lot of viewership on YouTube, so I wasn't too concerned about it, because like I said, I already kind of made it age restricted,
Speaker: But what ended up happening, it's something I didn't really think about, is that
Speaker: I did limit my growth a little bit because Google and YouTube are the same company. So if you're on the shit list on YouTube, Google also suppresses you. And Google, of course, being the biggest search engine in the world, like that's not good. So so what happened was that after being kicked off YouTube, it became harder to find my show just in general. It wasn't just a YouTube thing. It was like just in general. It was hard to find my show. Plus a lot of other
Speaker: search engines like DuckDuckGo and whatnot they use Google you know as to get their information so if I'm on the Google blacklist then I'm also on the Google black or I'm also on the ban list on DuckDuckGo and many of these other things so for a while I could not like I could not find my show like if I would Google it I would have to go down like multiple pages to find my show which was BS because I'm like I
Speaker: I am awful at spelling. I will spell things incorrectly.
Speaker: And you will know what I'm looking for. And yet I will put the exact name of my show with the exact guess that I'm, you know, that was on the show. And yet it doesn't come up. I'm like, this isn't accidental. I'm like, there's something going on here. So I think that hurt me a little bit. Luckily, word of mouth and honestly, people just in the multimedia community, like suggesting the show and talking about the show, I've had like consistent growth. So it hasn't hurt me too much, you know, with my download numbers.
Speaker: I'm still getting you know good download numbers, and it keeps growing and that's good You know so so that's good, but I'm it makes you wonder like okay if I didn't
Speaker: if I wasn't dealing with this extra censorship, if it was the free market, if I was just able to post my show everywhere, use all the platforms available, how much larger could the show be? And I think, you know, it would be because I would be able to not reach, you know, because I'm in the alternative media community, for lack of better term, I can reach a lot of those people. But how many new people am I going to reach? And before I could reach some of those people, because I would have a lot of
Speaker: not alternative media type of guests, you know, where I would have a musician. So if you're in a music, you might run into an episode. If you're into art, if you're into, you know, whatever sports, whatever it may be, you might find a guest that's not conspiratorial, that, you know, is more mainstream. And then hopefully,
Speaker: finding my show via that guest that opens, you know, your whole world to to all these other type of guests. So maybe somebody who's not familiar with James Corbett might find my show because they saw an interview I did with, you know, the Singer Fear Factory. And but the next thing you know, you know, they're like, Who the hell is this James Corbett guy? You know, so that was kind of the same thing with like, I just had Kane, the wrestler, Undertaker's brother. Yeah, Mary Glenn Jacobs, which was super cool.
Speaker: What did you talk about with him? Did you talk about some crazy stuff? We didn't talk too much about wrestling because honestly he's done a lot of wrestling interviews and also I wanted to talk about something that I really admire him for and that's
Speaker: being outspoken with the huge fanship that he has. I mean, you think about it. He's a WWE Hall of Famer. He's one of the most popular wrestlers, you know, of his era. If maybe, you know, you could make the argument of all time.
Speaker: And yet, with all that said, when the COVID stuff happened, he had the balls to be outspoken against the lockdowns, against masking kids, against the... And he knew that that was not going to be taken lightly by the wrestling community, that he was going to get
Speaker: Push back from fans from other wrestlers and he did you know so you know I just hats often because so many people he would have just been like well It's bad for business so let me just keep my mouth shut or let me just not be public about it Or maybe just kind of go under the radar. He would tweet about it He would you know it seemed it would rob wolf on a big fan of rob wolf He's a he became his electrolyte company element and
Speaker: has to be a sponsor of the show. I'm not a big fan of sponsors, but anybody who does sponsor the show or support the show, it has to be somebody that I'm a fan of or friends with. And Rob Wolf, I remember, like,
Speaker: during the lockdown or whatever. I'm like, I'm like, you know what? I haven't heard from Rob Wolf. I wonder where he stands on this because there's a lot of people that I'm a fan of that let me down. People that I'm like, you know, I thought you'd be on the right side of history. And all of a sudden I'm like reading your comments or your posts. And I'm like, wait, you're falling for this shit? You know, I'm like, you shouldn't, you should know better. But Rob Wolf, I remember, I don't know if it was Instagram.
Speaker: or Twitter where he wrote, if you run a PCR test long enough, you can probably find Jimmy Hoffa. And I'm like, yes, he gets it. He knows it's bullshit, you know, and then I started kind of just following his work again, because sometimes it's just hard because you like lose track of somebody. And so many people. Yeah, so many people.
Speaker: But he use another guy that was really outspoken it would've been really easy for him to like what businesses i sell books i already have vegans who hate me like why get now people who are pro you know i'll call the vaccine they hate me and so it's like he could easily like.
Speaker: you know, took a step back and not burning more bridges, but he did what was right. So I love that because right now, as you know, Christian, like it's really easy to be outspoken about it now because there's not this incredible amount of tension everywhere. But at the height of the lockdown in 2020, and even most of 2021, I mean, you spoke out
Speaker: It was going to lead to a verbal argument, confrontation. It was going to lead to being banned. It was going to lead to maybe burning bridges with friends or family and just tension. And so a lot of people who spoke out during that time, I'm really proud of. And I admire them because I know how hard it was for me. And I don't even have a big platform. I was getting people getting upset at me because of my stances on things.
Speaker: And at that time, it just wasn't easy because you know that the whole world became a tribe or two tribes. And it was like the pro COVID vaccine, pro lockdown, pro mask team, and then everybody else. And or really the two tribes were like the brainwashed and the critical thinkers. But at that time, it was really hard.
Speaker: It would have been really easy for people just to keep their opinions to themselves. And I know people who did that. I know people who I start talking to them and they're like, yeah, you're right. That doesn't make a lot of sense. Or, yeah, this stuff's wacky. But they would never come out and say it because they know the baggage that came with it. They would hold back and wait till, like, oh, he thinks like me. Now I'm comfortable enough to talk about it. But I'm not going to talk about it around people who don't think like me because I don't want to get into the arguments. So, you know,
Speaker: Mayor Glenn Jacobs, also known as Kane, he was really outspoken. So I was, I love the fact that it's somebody who I was a fan of. They always say, don't meet your heroes, you'll be disappointed. But he was one of those people that I was a fan of growing up, being able to talk to him. He just, you know, I'm just really proud that he is the great guy that I assumed he was. Because even during his WWE,
Speaker: interviews after he retired. He always just seemed like a sincere person. But the whole story always seemed pretty decent in interviews and everybody says he's an asshole. So you can put anything you want on TV or during an interview.
Speaker: and create any facade for people to believe, because Hulk Hogan is a perfect example of that. Almost consistently everybody says he's a jerk, or he's egotistic, or he's a backstabber.
Speaker: many interviews that I've seen with him. He always seems like a decent guy. I'm like, no, you see, I'm like, I don't see it. I'm like, he seems like a decent dude. But then you have to remind yourself, like, remember politics, like you hear people behind the scenes like that guy's a jerk or that, but then you see him on TV and they always seem halfway decent. And I'm like, you know, we have to remember that, uh, that they know the cameras on and they know that they're being judged based on how they say things and what they say or whatever. And so it's basically,
Speaker: an illusion and we have to kind of keep reminding ourselves of that, that everything's kind of an illusion and that's kind of the parallels with wrestling and basically politics and the rest of the world.
Speaker: theater. Listen, do you know who I actually appreciate? I kind of have more respect for now than ever. Not that it's much more than before, but Jordan Peterson. So I honestly never really liked him. Not that I hated him or anything. I don't hate people. But my wife, you know,
Speaker: She, I am married now since we spoke, since we last spoke, by the way. Thank you. So my wife, she has one or two of his books and she listened to his stuff. And I was always like, you know, these leftist professors, like this guy, Jordan Peterson, like I've listened to some clips and he just, it's hyperbole. It's just like waffling, waffling. You know, a lot of professors are, they waffle, waffle and don't actually make a point in the end. So almost like the like,
Speaker: the sound of their own voice so then this covid bs started and then he was like take the damn shot take the damn shot so i was showing this clip to my wife like this this is your hero one you know not that he's one of her heroes really she she's a very obviously very eclectic interest as well
Speaker: very awake person but I'm like you see you see now what I mean and she's like okay well you know she definitely you know could kind of say all right okay the guy's clearly not just brainwashed indoctrinated he's you know professor whatever but
Speaker: He did come out, he got a lot of slack, and people would give him shit on Twitter, and he admitted, okay, I was wrong. I thought I would be left alone.
Speaker: I did not get left alone. And I kind of respect that he did that because most people, they figured there's some fuckery going on now, but they're too afraid or they don't want to go back on what they said because like very, I think it's more of an airy straight like yourself and myself. I think we've probably been down on many paths in life where you're like, okay, no, that's bullshit. I shouldn't do that anymore. Like when I was doing the vegan diet, for example, or the plant -based diet,
Speaker: Or, you know, when I decided, you know, doesn't don't need any more examples, you know, but it takes kind of, it takes that type of character where you can say, Okay, you know what, I was wrong about that. And I
Speaker: I have now developed as a person, I've grown, I've learned some stuff and now I can reevaluate. So I think it kind of shows a lot of, I respect Jordan. I would actually, now I would actually go and probably read his next book because I think he has changed and that will be reflected in his next kind of piece of work that he publishes. So I kind of forgot what the hell I was going to say next.
Speaker: So you could take over whatever you want to say. Well, I agree with you. I think anybody who's willing to admit when they're wrong publicly, especially publicly, because you know that you kind of have to... It's hard enough to do it to your significant other or whatever, but when you have to do it publicly to all these fans who you know are going to jump down your throat, I think it's really hard to do. But one thing that I've noticed about admitting when you're wrong, and I noticed this a long time ago,
Speaker: is that it's almost easier than it is easier than holding on to you being wrong. You know what I mean? Like, like, because once you make you're wrong and you're like, you know what, I was wrong about that. I got it's almost like professional athletes like when they mess up or politicians when they mess up. It's like the ones who took the steroids and didn't admit it like we still hate them. But the ones who who took the steroids and just said, hey, I fucked up or, you know, or if it's an MMA guy or whatever, we're like, OK,
Speaker: Well, we can start, I accept your apology, we can start the forgiveness process. But you can never start the forgiveness process when they're still, you know, holding on to that, like, I was right, I'm not wrong, I'm not lying type of thing. So a lot of times, but you're right. Either way, it still takes a lot of balls and it takes somebody with a guts and to admit that they're wrong because...
Speaker: Yeah because a lot of times your ego gets in the way and we have this assumption that if I admit I'm wrong it means that people are going to look at me like I'm less intelligent because I got fooled or I got it wrong or you know or whatever but
Speaker: A lot of times, you know, Rogan says it's true and not that, you know, make too much of the show about Rogan. But this is something that he says that I completely agree with is that I I'd rather be a little closer to being right by admitting I'm wrong and then better understanding something than trying to pretend I was right and then hold on to that and argue that over and over again to me, like admitting I was wrong just means like, OK, like I'm a little closer to being right and I can let go of something.
Speaker: that I thought was true and but too often that's not the case like most people will will never I mean have you ever had a debate or disagree with somebody and then when you make a really good point to show that they're wrong they'll just instead of acknowledging that like okay you're right like you know maybe I was wrong don't just like change subjects and
Speaker: or change topics or deflect and move on to something else. Yeah, but you know, and I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you know, pump the brakes. Like, can we just acknowledge that you were incorrect about this? Then we can move on to the next thing. But people struggle to do that because it's like this idea. Like, I don't I hope people don't hear me get something wrong or admit that I was wrong and think like, oh, I'm a dummy because I did so. It's like,
Speaker: i don't look at anybody like that i don't look at anybody like okay if somebody got something wrong and i don't that doesn't become it doesn't represent the whole body of work it doesn't represent their view on everything like we get wrong all time why because the world's complicated and there's a lot of viewpoints and there's a lot of you know we start off the show talking about science and the inconsistencies all the conflicting opinions like.
Speaker: You know i could have just went down the you know a rabbit all reading this researcher and then it molded my perspective on this topic this way and then. Come to find out i find out about this research and i'm like holy crap he had it all wrong now this is change the way i look at things so that's what happens most of the time. Sure you know it's um.
Speaker: For example, have you heard of Chris Masterjohn, PhD? He's a massive nutrition expert. He's been pretty much on all the podcasts. He's one of the most amazing nutrition experts that you will find out there, very, very advanced.
Speaker: So I subscribed to his new couple of his newsletters. So dude, I was so I was like, I actually unsubscribed at one point from I had two emails where I had his stuff coming through.
Speaker: But he's just going on about COVID, COVID, how COVID is doing, what it's doing, the molecular mechanisms. And like, dude, fucking COVID, fucking COVID. You keep going on about a virus, a purported alleged virus that's never been isolated and purified. But anyway, you know,
Speaker: whatever. So months went by, I think last year at one point, he sent an email, something like, COVID -19 is a mechanism to introduce digital ID, this kind of some crazy, like, you know, what you'd hear on, on, on like the stuff we talk about all day long, you know? So I was like, all right, let me read what this dude finally freaking realized, you know? So I see he starts going on about, Oh my God, dude, you know, in the world economic forum, this cloud shop, that or whatever. So
Speaker: I don't normally respond to newsletters who freaking does. So I responded to his newsletter. I'm like, Jesus, God, damn, Christ, Christ, you finally freaking figured it out. Thank God. Now use your massive audience and freaking educate them on this. Dig deep. So that he was talking about other crises going on.
Speaker: they figure it out. But again, PhD guy, like you said, you know, he's completed down all his rabbit holes, and he's looking at all the virology papers. And why would it be? Why would any of it be lies and fake? You know, it's, it's your craft. It's like, suddenly, someone tells you that, you know, you know, if you're a musician, that there's not seven notes on the scale, there's 12 or 13 notes in a chromatic scale, or eight notes in African
Speaker: normal scale. It's like, no, that's crazy, whatever. So how would you ever believe it? I remember what I wanted to say about Jordan Peterson. You remember that was that legendary interview with Yuri Besman of the KGB defector that was in the early 80s. He was interviewed by G. Edward Griffin.
Speaker: And he was talking about a lot of stuff that actually eventually happened. He kind of really understood what's going on. But he was talking about whenever there's a change in government or a reset of some kind, they always go and purge these leftist professors because he said when, and this is in the case of Jordan Peterson, he was like a big, you know,
Speaker: bullhorn for the agenda unbeknownst to him or maybe known to him, whatever, he was just, he was a useful idiot, as Yuri Bespinov would say. And he said that once those guys figure out that
Speaker: they're just a useful idiot to pull in your, you know, bigger game of chess, they get pissed off and they have a following. And this is exactly you can see it play out in real life with Besmanoff, because he had with, sorry, with Peterson, because he has a massive following. And you see, he actually, he was a catalyst for a lot of people awakening.
Speaker: So, you know, it's kind of this, I think folks that are listening in this Yuri Besmanov interview, it's still on YouTube, I managed to download it, the video file of it in case it gets purged. But if you listen to this, this was back in the 80s. What this guy talks about how society is demoralized, if you look at all this woke
Speaker: uh bs uh 78 million gender stuff going on you will see the the grand chess game playing out over the last few decades in in the west basically um and then the other thing i do about rogan i i i want to know your opinion about rogan because what i lost respect for rogan um because back in the day he was he had comedy bits where he was talking about
Speaker: how fake the moon landing was, right? And then, you know, he had Neil Disgrace Tyson and all these other, you know, scientists, you know, master scientists. You don't know nothing. Let me educate you type guys, you know. And he now even Eddie Bravo, he'd like
Speaker: Remember you used to be like you had bits, comedy bits about the fake moon landing and Rogan would be like, well, look, I no longer believe that. He'll give some absolute BS. So for me, that shows lack of integrity. And I know a lot when there's a lot of hundreds of millions or whatever involved, I'm sure that we all could be swayed to revert some of these kind of
Speaker: opinions and whatever. But what do you think of that? I get a Nicky feeling now, I don't really tune into his podcast much the last few years. So, during the COVID lockdown, I lost a lot of faith in him because he brought on, I forget what the name of the doctor was, but it was a fear -mongering doctor that just scared the shit out of everybody. And in the past, he would have on people like Dr.
Speaker: hotels and all these pro vaccine doctors and I'm just like, dude, why don't you have people from the other side of the argument? And so, you know, and for a while, I was thinking, like, this guy's platform is just so big that and he's so concerned about going down these rabbit holes, these really controversial topics, because he knows that next thing you know, like everything that's said on those podcasts will be headline news. But
Speaker: He kind of surprised me. I remember when I found out, and I actually found out because I was in a telegram chat with Dr. Peter McCullough. This was after he was on my show. And he said that he's going on Rogan's show. And I'm like, what? And at the time, now it's not a big deal, because Dr. Peter McCullough is a household name. Dr. Robert Malone is a household name. But in the alternative media community, like my podcast and other podcasts that were having these guys on,
Speaker: We were like, you know, pissed off that no mainstream media would have these guys on. We were pissed off because like these are really credible people who really know their shit. Like they need to be heard. So when I heard that he's willing to have Dr. Peter McCullough on, I'm like, wow, man, this is like,
Speaker: he knows that this is going to come with a lot of backlash. But I think he draws a line somewhere where it's like, okay, I don't want to, you know, talk about anything too controversial. But I think with the COVID lockdown, like he almost felt obligated, like he's like, this is so serious. And this has gotten so out of hand. And these doctors, because even when he had Dr. Ronald Patrick on, who's a close friend of his, and been on a bunch, they bought butt heads about vaccines. Then he had Dr. Sanjay Gupta on
Speaker: and basically debated them for the whole show. And then he had, you know, Dr. Robert Malone on Dr. Peter McCullough. So that really showed that like, when it's a topic that's like life or death and in regards to like ruining people's lives, because he knows that his podcast has a huge poll, huge audience, and maybe he can at least plant the seed of doubt in regards to believing the mainstream narrative.
Speaker: He did it. And I think a lot of these other topics like the moon landing, if the earth is flat or whatever, maybe like he kind of just sees them as fun.
Speaker: topics, but he doesn't really feel the need to have to really like, double down on them. Because it's not life or death. It doesn't change anybody's life immediately. Where these other topics, I think he saw it was I mean, at the time when he was having Dr. Sanjay Gupta on and you know, Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Peter McCullough, I mean, things were still ramped up. There's still a lot of mandates, there's still a lot of debate about masks, a lot of debate about
Speaker: vaccinating kids. And so I think without a doubt, he contributed in trending in the right direction. And that's getting rid of some of these mandates, getting rid of the mask and getting rid of faith. And that's what it is. It's faith in the vaccine. There's no real science behind it. So I think he's I think he
Speaker: I've listened to enough hours of him and I feel like if whatever your go -to show is, everybody has like maybe two or three shows that are your go -to shows, the ones that you go to all the time and then you have a couple other ones that you listen to from time to time. I think if Rogan's one of your go -to shows, one of the shows that you listen to the most,
Speaker: you can't listen to hours and hours and hours and hours of anybody and feel like you don't know who they are like i feel like who you really are can only be um you know faked for so long we talked about people who are good at putting like hoke hogan could put uh you know can come off like a nice guy in one interview or you know one podcast but if he was like rogan and he was putting out
Speaker: five, you know, episodes a week, four episodes a week, you know, averaging two to three hours every episode. Eventually him being a dick is going to show a little bit, you know. And so I think most people who listen to Rogan on a regular basis, they kind of feel the same as I do. Like he's probably sincerely a good person who just understands the reach that his show has and maybe
Speaker: You know has hesitated to go down some rabbit holes because of that But which it is a little discouraging and I think it is a little It does sad me to think that like maybe he does have these beliefs But he's he suppresses them a little bit because of his huge platform because I heard Alex Jones say that about Rogan like oh Rogan knows as much as I do he knows more than I do you know this and that you know, um, I
Speaker: And there's probably some truth to that. Because if you listen to old Rogan, he talks about shit that he doesn't talk about now, like you said. He would go down these rabbit holes and you're like, oh shit, he really knows this stuff. He's referencing certain things. And now he references
Speaker: you know, Operation Northwoods every Tuesday. Like the ones that aren't controversial and aren't a big deal and everybody's kind of accepted as common knowledge. So he does, you know, so I think he is a good person. I think that
Speaker: God forbid, we needed a huge platform to push back against the mainstream narrative. I think if you really believe that he, you know, that the mainstream media is lying to us and he needs to say something about it, like I think he would, you know, he had that guy, Alex, what's his name, who'd been banned off Twitter a bunch and was really pushing back against the COVID narrative.
Speaker: Oh my god, the journalist's author. Oh, Barofakis? Is that his name? Yeah. Or Berenson? Or Berenson? Is it Berenson? I was thinking of some Greek guy, never mind.
Speaker: Yeah, no, I'm thinking of Alex parents. I think it's parents and the guy the guy who got kicked off Twitter and then sued them or whatnot He also had the other guy who oh my god starts with the M. He's Middle Eastern He was on Tim pool. He's been on a couple shows or been on a bunch of shows. He's been on Del Big Tree He was one of the guys that I believe he was a
Speaker: Muslim extremists who eventually left that and then spoke out against that world. And I forget what his name is, but he was another guy who talked about just like social engineering. And really, it was one of the best Rogan podcasts at that time, really talking about how
Speaker: the media and the politics. It's all about control, and we're all being controlled in one way or another, and people have to wake up to that. And that's the thing. The thing about politics is that, just like pro wrestling, and I know I made the comparison before, but the thing about pro wrestling, even if we know this is all a work, which means that they're all acting, they're all trying to get us emotionally involved,
Speaker: And that's the goal. The goal is to get us to think that this guy's a babyface, this guy's a heel. We're supposed to love the babyface, hate the heel, get caught up in the storyline. And if they get a reaction out of us, then they've done their job. And it's no different than a movie. A movie, they're all actors and actresses. It's all fake. It could be a completely made up story. But you can still feel something emotionally
Speaker: feel something, watching it and fall in love with a character. Well, that's basically the way the whole world is. Everybody is just a character and everybody is just trying to play on our emotions.
Speaker: barely anything on TV or politics or media is real or even in journalism in many cases. In politics, it's the same thing. Like they have speechwriters, they have people that will write things in a way, you know, they have linguistic skills that they understand how to phrase things, how to say things, what not to say, to get us to feel a certain way. And yet we'll look at a politician and be like, yeah, I really like him.
Speaker: But all the reasons we like them are based on fabricated things. They're things that were fabricated. The way they talk, the issues they push, everything is fabricated. So it's like, who do we like? The person we're looking at, that's not really them. All the evidence I have to help me gather my opinion on this person is all
Speaker: it's all illusion, it's all fabricated, it's all made up, it's all there for a purpose of getting me to like them. So it's like, you know, you can't believe anything on TV, you know, so when you hear about our vice president being, you know, a bitch, for lack of better term, and being rude, and how she got mad at her staff, because they wouldn't
Speaker: I think she got mad at the staff because they wouldn't stand up when she walked in the room or something like that. She basically wanted the same type of respect the president got. And when you hear these things, it's not hard to believe. It's not hard to believe. And when you see her on TV, for her, she's a perfect example. She will try to polish up her talking and be likable. Same thing with Hillary Clinton. I mean, Hillary Clinton,
Speaker: only she she was really bad at it. I mean, she was, she was never really likable. But to think about like, you know, that little interview where she was kind of loosey goosey, and she felt comfortable. And she didn't think anybody was gonna critique her. And she was talking about going to Libya. And she's like, Oh, we came, we, you know, we saw he died. And she liked tables. And I'm like,
Speaker: This is what happens when you're in this world long enough. Like you're talking about a death of a politician, a person, a leader. You're talking about the death of a country because that country became a disaster and you are completely emotionally detached from it. Like you could care one bit. It's like that was a Stalin who said one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.
Speaker: I mean, that's basically it. To them, these are all just statistics. These are all just a means to an end. These are all just necessary casualties and they don't care. They don't care about what happens. They don't care about the life that was lost. That's why when politicians are on TV, begging us to stay at home because of COVID, it's like, these are the same
Speaker: dudes that like invaded Iraq invaded Afghanistan is bombing in you know, who knows how many countries all over the world, you know, and yet, you know, drone attacks that have
Speaker: poor accuracy, because it's all based on metadata. Like, you know, we know, like, they've, they accidentally killed peep kids. And you know, I was a Yemen, where they accidentally killed a bunch of people at a wedding. Like, these stories come out. And like, you think these politicians are crying about it? You think they lose sleep? They don't care at all. But yet all of a sudden, they care about our old people. They're dying of COVID. They're probably looking at it as like, finally, we get these
Speaker: people off Medicare so we can save some money. Finally, all these people that are using government
Speaker: help, because they're old and they're senior citizens, we would get them off our payroll, you know, like, that's probably the way they're looking at it. They don't care, like, they're psychopaths, they're psychopaths. And there's been many books and studies that show that they have psychopathic tendencies. And psychopaths are very good at feigning real human emotion.
Speaker: But like you said, on a long enough timeline, when there's a lie, you can never lie to everybody all the time forever more. Something will out you somehow. Totally right there, bro.
Speaker: So, how's Portugal at the moment? I mean, I know Portugal was kind of late to the party in regards to opening up and relieving the whole country of mandates, but I believe from relatives and people that I know that have traveled there recently, they say that basically you don't need to do COVID tests or anything to travel.
Speaker: Yeah. So this week, I think it was this week or late last week, they removed the restrictions. So the only place where you still had to wear a mask was pharmacies and health centers and stuff.
Speaker: And I believe that I was talking to the guy I buy my fish from, he said, I think on buses, public transport, you still need to wear a mask. But I went to the pharmacy today to get some herbs and for the first time I didn't wear a mask.
Speaker: But shops, it's been no masks in shops for a few months now, but I am always one that I will put on a mask when asked to not out of my own volition.
Speaker: especially if I'm alone. If I'm with my wife, I don't want to make a scene. I'm a little bit more freaking civilized, but I definitely make it a point of contention and will continue to do so. I know it can seem petty, but I'll give you an example. I never put the mask over my nose and then I go into a store and then an employee will ask me,
Speaker: based on how they ask me, I will comply or not comply. And if they're polite, they're just doing their job, but they're doing it politely, I will do it. If they got little fucking Napoleon complex going on, the petty tyrant, it's the, oh, I'm working in a store. I don't really like my job. Not that there's anything wrong with that kind of job, but I
Speaker: I am always taking orders from fucking everybody and it sucks and now I can be a petty tyrant and I can feel important that sort of shit I put in its place immediately bro and I think more people need to fucking stand up because I am up to here dude I am up to here with these stupid masks my even my chiropractor who's I already said you know he's very smart guy he understands
Speaker: you know the flaws in science and all that stuff that we talked about you know previous times we've spoken as well. He understands all that but he was completely duped by this Covid bullshit.
Speaker: And he's terrified of getting COVID. And he's wearing this fucking, you know, those N95 respirators all damn day long. And that's like eight, 10 hours. He's more likely to cause damage to himself through that. And then I sent him six or seven studies that compared, you know, the regular masks with the N95
Speaker: respirators, they found no actual protection. Dude, I gave him a copy. Listen, I was buying, so, you know, Dr. Tom Cowan, I have bought multiple copies of his book, Vaccines Autoimmunity and the Changing Nature of Childhood Sickness. I've given it to multiple people, you know, young parents or parents -to -be.
Speaker: and his book The Truth About Contagion. I have bought multiple copies. I've given one to our osteopath. I gave one to my chiropractor. And I'm telling this guy, I know this guy didn't even open the goddamn book because he's afraid of the massive paradigm shift that couldn't sue if he goes into it. Also,
Speaker: Tom Cowan in that book, he talks about a book called The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Furstenberg. Great book, by the way, if you haven't read it or listened to it on Audible, I'd highly recommend it. Basically, he talks about how electricity
Speaker: The electrification of the planet preceded a lot of these massive plagues, pandemics, et cetera, with Morse code, the telegraph, or whatever else, and around the Second World War, around the Spanish Flu, which was another fucking big old scam.
Speaker: But again, you know very well, many people do not understand, maybe people listening to us know, but history is revised even on a year to year basis, even five years ago, even like stuff they were talking about, 9 -11 has already been revised on Wikipedia multiple times. So it's very hard to, you know, when you find books like this, I feel like we need to share the hell out of them and keep them as an archive of knowledge.
Speaker: that can't be changed. So just back to my chiropractor. So it really just stood. It's gotten to the point where we talk about, because I've been going to him quite a lot. I had some back injury that he's really been helping me with.
Speaker: So some weeks I see him every day for like a half an hour. And we talk about all sorts of things, right? A great guy, a great conversationalist. I just stopped talking about this stuff because it's so awkward when someone, like, you know what I mean? When it's like a massive elephant in the room and you and me are standing here,
Speaker: And we're looking at each other in the eyes and we're just pretending. It's like you're having a romantic dinner date and in San Francisco is a homeless guy jerking off next to your dining room.
Speaker: And you're just trying to look each other in the eye and not flinch. You're like, yes, a very nice necklace you have on today and great table service. It's like, I don't know what else to do anymore. So today, my wife told me that the mask restrictions were gone. So I went to the pharmacy that didn't give me any BS. So after that, I'm going to the chiropractor.
Speaker: So I'm like, all right, if this dude, because what he does is very polite, he has a big bag of masks at the front door, and if I forget to put it on, he politely gives me one, right? So if he gives me a mask, then I'm gonna go freaking
Speaker: Aries, I'm going to go Balkan, Eastern European on his ass, but he didn't. So I feel like the rule applies to them as well, but they're continuing to wear a mask because he continues to wear a mask. Because again, he hasn't been sick in three years. He's in his 60s. He's terrified of getting sick because that means he won't be able to work with his patients.
Speaker: And he sees a lot of people, so he thinks he's exposed to this fake fucking virus. So in some ways, I have empathy, right? And when you're 60, imagine you're, okay, we're almost 40, you and me. Imagine all your life, and someone tells you, you're not white, you're not from Portugal, you're from Germany, or you're Hispanic in origin.
Speaker: Or I'm not Bulgarian. I'm from the Middle East or Greek. And that's not your real dad. How are you going to take that? This COVID stuff is such a paradigm shift. I can kind of understand, but I don't have to fucking like it. Do I? Well, I think you're making some really valid points because I was the same way where I felt the need
Speaker: and push back when somebody would... I remember we went to Whole Foods, and I never went to Whole Foods again, and I probably never will, but we went to Whole Foods during the lockdown. Same thing, I was looking at some cheese, some cashew, grabbed to compliment some wine at the end of the night, and I had my mask under my nose, and this lady's like,
Speaker: She's like, put that mask over your nose. She's like, you shouldn't be in here with your mask. And I looked at her and I'm just like, you know, those are the type of people, like you said, that I feel the need to have to say something and respond and talk about the ridiculousness of it all. And then somebody else, if they're polite, you know, like I remember I went somewhere with my
Speaker: with my son at the mall. And, you know, we always in the mall, if you're required to wear a mask at the time, but we would wear it like on our chin or whatever or under our nose when we went to a store because we don't want, you know, we didn't want anybody to feel too uncomfortable. So we would put it on our nose when we're in a store or close to people. And then when we're checking out this, you know, I would always have my son weird on his chin. I would wear it on my nose. But I'm like, listen,
Speaker: anyone who tells a little kid to put his mask up is a asshole. I'm like, so yeah, don't worry about it. You know, and, and when we're checking out, I think I was buying him an action figure or something like that. Because during COVID lockdown, I wanted to bring him some type of joy during this, you know, endless amounts of no social interaction, no schools, no anything. But um, so and then he this guy's like, hey, little guy, like, you should put your mask up. He's like, I don't want you to get sick or anything. And like,
Speaker: because he was kind of polite, and I'm like, oh, this dude truly just believes that he's just preventing people from getting sick, even though it doesn't make any sense, because all it would be doing is preventing him from getting sick from my son, because germs go outwards, you know, but, but so but I'm like, you know what, I'll let it go. And so when we walked away about my son's, you know, like, hey, you know, like, oh,
Speaker: Oh, he's so dumb. He's like, why does he think I need to wear a mask? And I'm like, yeah, but I was being honest with him. I'm like, yeah, but I'm like, he's being polite. He doesn't know any better. So I'm like, that's why I didn't say anything. Beautiful.
Speaker: I love it. You know, and we had a little talk about and he understood that I was just being polite. I'm always I try to be polite to everybody. So my son knows that, you know, that's kind of my in my personality that like, hey, I just didn't want to cause friction or any tension. He's seen me go at it with his pediatrician before. So he knows when, when not when, when I need to, I will push back. But he, you know, it just but it's one of those things where you're right. Like, it's not like there's many people that would be
Speaker: who wouldn't agree what was going on, but would comply if they were nicely asked. But so many people felt like you were the enemy if you weren't complying and would come at you with aggression. And, you know, the true believers that thought like you were killing people if you weren't wearing your mask, you know, I got at it with somebody at the gym. I remember like, you know, it was like I would always wear it on my chin or what I would do is once I got in, I would take it off.
Speaker: And, um, and, and, you know, people would freaking start chit chatting or pointing at me over there in the corner working out. And it would just, it would just cause this friction. It would be so annoying. And then this one guy came up to me and said something. Um, and I just tore him a new one. I'm like, went through like all the information at the time. I was like.
Speaker: COVID black belt because I was just doing show on the topic so I was like, I was locked and loaded so like once he came up to me I'm like, I was just like regurgitating everything I knew, and he just looked at me like this
Speaker: glossy eyed and he's just like, you could tell he I'm like, dude, you are so passionately going around, yelling at people who are wearing the mask off. And you don't know jack shit about this topic. I'm like, you don't even know what you're talking about. I'm like, you have picked a team and you're defending that team. And you haven't even looked into if that team was right or wrong. And or if there's another team that makes more sense, like, and it was just so frustrating. But
Speaker: You know, it shows that like we're inherently tribal, you know, we're we can't help it. And but sometimes, you know, we get tricked into joining a tribe that's completely wrong and doesn't really give a shit about you. You know, it's that's kind of what happened. I mean, I'm so glad that the majority of that is behind us, because I got to admit, like. I like doing shows on the topic still, because I think there's people need to be held responsible for all the shit that we went through. And
Speaker: and all the things we've been talking about and the people who've been lied to into getting injections that they don't need or come at some risk that they weren't told about. But boy, am I happy that I can do shows away from the topic and not feel guilty about it. Because at the time, I couldn't help but feel like this is the top. I mean, think about this is the only topic in the history of the world that I know of.
Speaker: that you could travel anywhere in the world. You could be anywhere at any time and you could just grab somebody and you'd be like, how did COVID affect your life? Because everybody was affected by it. Like it's the only thing that affected everyone, everywhere. You know, even wars only affect, you know, there's always countries that are outside of that conflict that aren't directly affected.
Speaker: But this affected everyone. Everybody has some trauma, has some negative effects because of this. So to me, we can't let it go. We have to keep harping on it and exposing the liars that brought all this nonsense to us and convinced many people of it.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I completely agree. And I think now it's, I know a lot of people want to put it behind them. They don't want to talk about it. They want to forget it, but it's like any trauma. You want to sequester it somewhere, you know, in your mind, but, uh, I think that's not the right way to do it. I completely agree with you. We need to, the people that, um,
Speaker: are ready to listen, to read information, to listen to some interviews. Just even simple example, your podcasters probably, I don't know, thousands if not hundreds of hours where people can get really good information about it. So if you're
Speaker: If you're listening to this and you don't know that the COVID -19 pandemic was planned probably for years, if not a couple of decades or more, God knows.
Speaker: If you are not aware of that, if you think that's some BS conspiracy theory, check out Ricky's podcast, Ripple Effect. There's plenty of evidence for the open -minded with the ears to hear of the country. But anyway, the information will find those people. I know it's hard nowadays with the censorship, but the information will find the people when they're ready. I think
Speaker: Ricky, you're so easy to talk to, bro. We could do this for a very long time, but it's almost 10 p .m. here. So I have one final question before you wrap up at least today's interview. I want to know, what do you think? No, don't pull any punches now. What do you think is in store for us over the next three years coming up to 2025?
Speaker: the awakening or the great reset, right? Like there's two things going on right now. There's a bunch of people waking up to what's going on and pushing back and fighting back. And then there's also the great reset agenda that is still continuing and now has taken a new shape because
Speaker: What's next?
Speaker: not a new, it's not new in regards to like, they've been doing this for a while, but now they're kind of redirected their, their attention and energy off COVID to, like, you know, the whole climate change and all that stuff. And, and, you know, cryptocurrency, you know, same thing, like, is that going to be used to enslave us? Or is it a method of saving us? It's like, so there's all these things that are in limbo of like, you know, a lot of technology, right? I mean, beautiful thing about technology where you, you know, you've created,
Speaker: Are a part of a new technology ever using a record this like we technologies Beautiful and gives us a the ability to talk, you know from on two different continents and meet and become friends and and and you know Create a community and and all this stuff and put out a
Speaker: thought -provoking conversations. Or is it going to be a way of controlling us? Like I talked about, you know, the power that Google has in YouTube and how they give us the information, they feed us the information that they know will lead us in one direction or another. So it's like, I'm still, I think I'm still undecided. I'm still undecided to know, I'm still undecided in regards to figuring out who's winning and who I think is going to win. You know, is it going to be the people?
Speaker: I mean, again, like I said earlier, I am optimistic. I try to be optimistic person. So I want to believe that our love for community, our love for humanity, our love for one another, our love and our connection with mother nature.
Speaker: is going to be too strong to ever completely diminish and make disappear. I don't know if a human being would ever truly be happy in some synthetic digital world. I think maybe something will be missing. I think there's no substitute for real human interaction.
Speaker: you look at everybody on their phones all the time everywhere, when they're around other people and they're at social events that they should be enjoying, they seem to rather be in that digital world staring at their phone than the actual world. So I want to be optimistic, but
Speaker: I just I'm on the side. Like I said, I don't know. I mean, I know one thing that you're going to keep doing what you're doing. I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. And we're going to give ourselves the best opportunity possible to wake as many people up to help push things in a direction that's pro human and not pro machine and not pro elite and not pro the powers that be. Because
Speaker: I want to believe that people are waking up and shows like yours and mine are all starting ripple effects that is hopefully exposing what's really going on. And even though the COVID era did a lot of damage, I think it also woke up a huge percentage of the population to this idea that maybe we are being controlled, maybe we are being manipulated, maybe there is a greater agenda that we're not aware of.
Speaker: Totally. Actually, when I was on your show, I think a couple of years back, I can't remember, it's been such a whirlwind the last year and a half for me. After the show, a lady
Speaker: a lady contacted me about asking about my functional diagnostic nutrition stuff. So I referred her to our guys. So I saw a couple of months ago she had graduated. So it was
Speaker: Through you through the ripple effect that we started ripple now that person will go on to help possibly dozens possibly Hundreds of people improve their health, you know, so Ricky one more time tell the audience where they can find you on the internet brother Yeah, so if you're listening to this Unless it's YouTube you can probably find it also on that platform on all the audio platforms Spotify iTunes and
Speaker: podcast addict, Stitcher, Google, Amazon. I'm on anywhere you can get podcasts available. The video platforms I'm on is Band .video, Odyssey, Bitchute, Mines, Rockfin. I know I'm forgetting some, but
Speaker: I'm on many video platforms minus rumble of course because rumble is seems to be picking up some pace of late and And and a couple other ones But you can find all that stuff and more on my website the ripple effect podcast comm and you'll find all my channels all the social media platforms I'm on my telegram group chat my sponsors all that stuff is on there It's a easy way to connect with me if you want to connect with me I always have listeners hit me up on Instagram and Twitter and
Speaker: it's so many different platforms and I love connecting with the listeners and a lot of times they're also very good at gathering information and kind of being independent journalists because during the COVID lockdown I would get a lot of articles and a lot of information just from listeners all over the world. People from the UK, people from whatever would like you know send the articles and videos and stuff like that so it is cool to you know to have that global reach and connect listeners all over the world so
Speaker: Uh, but yeah, dribblefecpodcast .com is the best spot to connect with me and get all my shows. Also links to the Union Don't Wanted are on there, um, and much more. Sweet. We have some of those in the description here. Uh, Ricky, once again, thank you very much for your time, bro.
Speaker: awesome thanks and hopefully we get you on a union of unwanted in the near future once we do a another international edition so you guys don't have to be up uh like Alex Craner I like Alex Craner has done it a few times and so has Dr. Jessica Rose.
Speaker: Yeah, they are. And I don't know how, I mean, they sound smarter at 2am than I do at like 2pm in the afternoon with like six cups of coffee. I'm like, it's amazing that they can hold it together because I don't even know if I invited them on and I don't even know if I would do it at that time because I would be like, I'm going to sound like an idiot.
Speaker: By 10 p .m. I'm dead which is right about now. So yeah Congratulations again and on the marriage and and you know, I'm sure what we'll keep in touch and we'll talk again in their future Yeah, thank you, bro
