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Evidence of Giants, Titan, and Other Large Creatures | Mike Wilkerson - Stellium7
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Mike Wilkerson has always been interesting in asking unconventional questions. As a teen computer hobbyist turned hacker in the early 80's, his thirst for deeper knowledge led to wild adventures with some of the top hackers in the nation.
But in 1985, the fun ended in a brief incarceration, after being caught for his infiltration of computer servers at Microsoft and three other Seattle corporations. Though he has walked the straight and narrow since then, Mike's interest in the 'unquestionables' has never waned. In the decades that followed, he evolved from a mischievous hacker, to a benevolent back-cracker. For over a decade now,
Mike has lived and worked as a chiropractor on the Costa Blanca in Spain, where his mission is to improve the health of the world one spine and mind at a time. As a part-time independent researcher, he focuses primarily on alternative history, non-standard cosmologies, gigantism, catastrophism and rapid petrification. His research and presentations are available on the Stellium7 YouTube channel.
Mike's YouTube channel and website:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Stellium7
Website: https://www.stellium7.com/
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Introduction of Hosts and Guest
00:00:01
Christian Yordanov
Hey folks welcome back to the podcast, Kristian Jordinov here if you have not heard of today's guest Mike Wilkerson ah you may have your mind blown so Mike he is a man a man of many talents and just a very interesting individual we were actually talking for basically more than an hour before we hit record today and just absolutely one of the coolest people I've met for sure.
00:00:19
Stellium7
you
00:00:30
Christian Yordanov
Briefly, he was a computer hobbyist turned hacker in the early 80s in his teens. He actually got had a brief incarceration after being called for infiltrating the computer servers at Microsoft and three other Seattle corporations back in 1985.
00:00:48
Christian Yordanov
of course he moved on to other things, he is currently a chiropractor in Spain but most
Anarchapulco Insights and Personal Background
00:00:58
Christian Yordanov
people know him, ah he has the channel Stellium7 on YouTube where i highly recommend you go and start absorbing some of his content um where he basically just gives you some incredible ah perspectives on alternate history, ah non-standard cosmologies, gigantism, talking about titans and giants and the petrifications of these cosmologists.
00:00:59
Stellium7
Oh
00:01:29
Christian Yordanov
various um i don't even know what to call them were they um creatures let's say and a bunch of other stuff so with that said mike welcome the show
00:01:42
Stellium7
Thank you. Can you hear me? Because it's flatlining here right now.
00:01:47
Christian Yordanov
it will it will be fine it will be fine yeah yeah
00:01:48
Stellium7
My audio. Okay. All right. Yeah. thank you for the invite, Christian. It's nice to meet you in Anarchapulco and fun to talk with you here.
00:02:00
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, man. um So we're probably going to have you on multiple times. So I think what what we may want to do today, just because I'm sure a lot of folks listening, they haven't heard who you are. So maybe we could do a...
00:02:15
Christian Yordanov
We'll do a separate um podcast about your book, The Hacker Prince, about the whole you know your history with the hacking and all that. That's very interesting. but I think we'll keep that as a separate topic, of course, briefly. Give us your kind of how you got here and then what's your main sort of thing that you do that you're known for. And then we'll start unpacking that because it's such a fascinating topic.
00:02:38
Stellium7
How I got here where?
00:02:40
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. to researching titans of the past that got petrified after dying and various you know incredible things like that.
00:02:50
Stellium7
Yeah. Well, gosh, um that... That began for me about 10 years ago when a friend of mine locally got me questioning the shape of the earth.
00:03:03
Stellium7
And at first I thought he was just a fool. His name is Alex Michael, conspiracy music go guru. And we'd been comparing notes on all kinds of different rabbit holes and and he brought that one up and I just shook my head and I thought, how can anyone be this dumb to to to think that you know the earth could be flat?
00:03:24
Stellium7
and Yeah. So he had to bring it up a couple of times before I gave it, uh, any credence and decided to go, you know, trying to debunk him. And, um, I figured that would take five, 10 minutes.
00:03:39
Stellium7
Just so you know, there's a fiesta outside and there's a group of guys right now that are just drunk as you know what, uh, and, uh, making all kinds of noise. So if I lose my train of thought, you'll know why.
00:03:50
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:03:50
Stellium7
Um, But yeah, I thought it would take me five minutes, 10 minutes to to debunk him and everything I brought him, he shot down handily. And the more I went looking for convincing proof of what I thought was just a simple fact, the more i found it wanting. And so I'm an earth shape agnostic. I'm a globe skeptic and I definitely don't believe that we're on a spinning ball any longer that has water sticking to the outside of it.
00:04:26
Stellium7
So for, I don't know where, where you are in in that spectrum or or your audience, but, um,
00:04:32
Christian Yordanov
Well, let's just say I have Dave Weiss on, I'm interviewing him on Monday and um i definite ah I don't know what's going on.
00:04:42
Christian Yordanov
It's such a complex world.
00:04:42
Stellium7
Should have had him on first. Yeah.
00:04:45
Christian Yordanov
yeah i don't know what's going on, but all I know is if you put a gun to my head and you ask me, is it a spinning globe? um and And I got it wrong and I got got shot.
00:04:58
Christian Yordanov
I'm
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00:04:59
Christian Yordanov
going for no it's not a fucking spinning globe that's where I'm at I don't know what it is though so
00:05:03
Stellium7
Well, that's the thing is you don't have to know what it is to to know what it isn't. And a lot of people get confused because ultimately the burden of proof is on the one making the positive claim.
00:05:14
Stellium7
And people think the people making the positive claim are the flat earthers, but it's actually the contrary because we're not experiencing any motion and yet we're told there there's motion.
00:05:14
Christian Yordanov
yeah
00:05:26
Stellium7
We don't perceive any curvature and yet we're told there's curvature, right? So it's, there's There are all kinds of things that we're taught about the nature of our physical reality that actually contradict our our sensory experience.
00:05:39
Stellium7
And those are the positive claims. So there the burden of proof is on them to prove them. And when you start to get into what is the evidence for that, you find that most of it is coming from organizations like NASA, which have been caught red handed faking everything imaginable.
00:05:55
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:05:55
Stellium7
Or SpaceX and the same goes for SpaceX or any of the spacefaring countries and their their agencies.
00:05:55
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:06:01
Stellium7
So when you start to dig into that, it's like, well, if it is what they told us, why isn't it easy to find unequivocal convincing evidence that is just undeniable?
00:06:14
Stellium7
It isn't if it was there the flat earth thing wouldn't be, you know, growing by leaps and bounds. And what you find is once people go to that side, um, they, they don't go back.
00:06:27
Stellium7
There's only a couple prominent flat earthers in the last 10 years that have, that have done that. And, uh, those are, those are all sketchy, uh, subjects that we're not going to go into today, but, uh, so the, the reason I brought that up is because.
00:06:33
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:06:45
Stellium7
I was already well versed in all kinds of other ah conspiracy theories, rabbit holes, whatever you want to call them. Going back to my early 20s, I was already waking up to the control structures and and the secret societies and how you know things were functioning behind the scenes. And in fact, early in my, you know, in my teens, I was, uh, exposed to what everyone else is being red pilled on right now, which is human trafficking and Epstein and all this stuff. I knew about that and how systematic and organized it was back when I was 19.
00:07:23
Stellium7
And, uh, I tell that story and in my book and, uh, you know, in other interviews, but we can, we can cover that another time. So, um, you know, these, yeah,
00:07:40
Stellium7
there's, there's an example of me losing my train of thought from the ones outside. But the the point being that I had, you know, gone down a lot of these different conspiracy rabbit holes and integrated that knowledge, but I had never contemplated that something as big as our realm itself might be a lie or what we were taught about it anyway.
00:08:01
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:08:03
Stellium7
And so when I, it took me six months to process that information. It wasn't just like two or three tidbits. And all of a sudden I was there. I'm very left brain analytical. i have two college degrees. i have a bachelor's and ah and a master's in chiropractic. And I speak four languages. I've lived in a lot of countries and I've been at the truth or game, if you want to call it that for a long time.
00:08:29
Stellium7
And it had never occurred to me that something that big could could be true. and And then the next logical thing is, well, how could something like that be true? So first you got to do the if question.
00:08:40
Stellium7
Everyone wants to jump to the why. Why the lie? And then a lot of the the religious people will go, well, they're trying to hide God.
00:08:43
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:08:47
Stellium7
And then they sound like religious fanatics to a person who's not coming from that that kind of a background. But before you get to the why, you should ask if, and you should do your due diligence and you should really look into it and you should steel man the topic.
00:09:02
Stellium7
lot of people are familiar with the straw man, you know, where you present a false argument that someone else has not made.
00:09:05
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:09:11
Stellium7
And then you debunk that argument and you claim victory. Well, the steel man is the opposite of that.
00:09:14
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:16
Stellium7
You, you go after the strongest possible argument that they have. And then you find out you know if if there's any truth to it. And most people are never doing that. they're not doing their due dili diligence. They're they're just hand wave dismissing it as the stupidest idea that they've ever heard of.
00:09:33
Stellium7
And they don't they don't know the first thing about it. And at five minutes into conversation, they show how woefully ignorant of the topic they are by the questions they ask. you know Well, i can see ships go over the horizon or Aristosthenes with his sticks and shadows.
00:09:48
Stellium7
And they don't they don't have the first clue about
00:09:49
Christian Yordanov
Why can't we see Antarctica?
00:09:51
Stellium7
Why can't we see Antarctica?
00:09:52
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:09:52
Stellium7
Like, why can't you see across the street in a thick fog? Have you ever heard of atmosphere? You know, it's like these are really, really basic, stupid questions. And yet they'll be arrogant and they'll be mocking the flat earthers and they'll be ridiculing them.
00:10:04
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:10:05
Stellium7
So that's a that's a fallacy in and of itself. Appeal to ridicule.
00:10:09
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
00:10:09
Stellium7
If I mock them, I don't have to address their their arguments.
00:10:10
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
00:10:13
Stellium7
If I create a straw man, I don't have to address their arguments. Right. So, so I started to realize that the people who were, were supposedly giving the, the, the good information, debunking the flat earthers were, were idiots who were, were engaging in all kinds of fallacious reasoning that I couldn't find any convincing footage of, of anything that they were claiming. And, and there's all kinds of fakery. So,
00:10:41
Stellium7
um So first you got to ask if, and once you get to the if, then you have to ask how, how before the why, how could something so grand be pulled to off for so long without humanity waking up to it?
00:10:47
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Okay.
00:10:57
Stellium7
And
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00:10:58
Stellium7
that's going to lead you to all those other rabbit holes. You're going to, find out about compartmentalization, which exists in the military, which exists in in the government structure, which exists in the corporate structure.
00:11:10
Christian Yordanov
Any corporation, really?
00:11:10
Stellium7
It exists in the secret societies. Oh, the societies where people swear oaths of secrecy to, you know, to
00:11:13
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, yeah.
00:11:20
Stellium7
to their their organization, whatever it is. so So that starts to to wake you up to the how. And then if you go through the if and the how, the why starts to become apparent. There's all kinds of answers to the why question.
00:11:34
Stellium7
There's the the endless black holes that are the space agencies. There's the control that comes from the manufactured scarcity of of claiming that we have oil, which is a limited resource. And, you know, it was formed when an asteroid struck and wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, and then they magically turned into crude oil. And there's only a limited amount of it. So we need to attack all the, you know, countries in in the Middle East in order to make sure we've got our share of what's left, you know.
00:12:05
Stellium7
So And then, you know, the hiding and the sequestering of all kinds of technologies that would be beneficial to humanity in the form of, you know, say Tesla technologies or AntiquiTech, you know, there there's so much that that has been hidden from us that is now being revealed in in an avalanche of information that that's,
00:12:26
Stellium7
pretty overwhelming for people who haven't been at this for a decade or or a few. um You know, people who are just waking up to, ah oh wait, the chemtrails are real.
00:12:32
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:12:37
Stellium7
The fluoride is real. the The stuff they said about the jabs is real. Like, what else is real? And now they're trying to absorb all this information in the space of you know, months or a couple of years.
00:12:48
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:12:49
Stellium7
And it can be, it can lead to pretty dark places.
00:12:50
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:12:53
Stellium7
But I coined the term prosperity some years ago, because some of those rabbit holes, when you go down them, like the asteroid strikes, if you're flat earther, no flat earther worried about some object hitting, hitting the earth.
00:13:07
Stellium7
You know, if, if you dig into the whole nuclear power thing and nuclear bombs, you find out, oh, there's a lot of new business there as well.
00:13:07
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:13:13
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:13:15
Stellium7
And you, most of those people are not afraid of of nuclear war either doesn't mean there aren't big bombs clearly they're big bombs the virus thing you start to realize oh they've never isolated a virus like you know it's like all of a sudden you know so it's not all despair and darkness and you know pedivore um elite it's it's um it's that there are some there is
00:13:20
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. yeah yeah
00:13:37
Christian Yordanov
Also knowing that there's an intelligent creat creator, this creative power, you know it's with not a monkey, you know, ah a fish, sorry, fish didn't flop out on the sea and then fuck a monkey to make you, that type thing, you know saying?
00:13:42
Stellium7
yeah
00:13:52
Stellium7
yeah rob rob skiba he he passed away some years ago he's a great flat earther many books and he he said uh they want us to believe that we go from goo to you by way of the zoo you know it's the primordial goo and then the you know then the fish comes out of the water because it's like tired of it talking to its wife or something and and you know and then grows legs and I mean it's just the more you start to look at it the more ridiculous that the stuff we've been fed as fact because
00:13:52
Christian Yordanov
Like intelligent design.
00:13:58
Christian Yordanov
I know him, I know him. I know
00:14:08
Christian Yordanov
and
00:14:22
Christian Yordanov
No, Mike, the first one died the first one died, but the second one grew legs harder. And that's how it happened, man. Come on.
00:14:30
Stellium7
right yeah yeah well
00:14:32
Christian Yordanov
Haven't you read the books that Gisele Maxwell's dad wrote, had oversaw all those those textbooks? Sorry, I'm interrupting. Please go ahead.
00:14:41
Stellium7
That's all right. Everyone's always talking about the flight logs. They don't realize that Ghislaine Maxwell had submarine captain's license and that there's very likely underground bases on those islands.
00:14:49
Christian Yordanov
Wow.
00:14:51
Stellium7
So, um, or underwater bases.
00:14:52
Christian Yordanov
Holy shit. Jeez.
00:14:54
Stellium7
Sorry. So, yeah. And she's also the, the, uh, the spokesperson for Tara Mar, which is this, uh, uh, ocean based civilization that they're trying to form.
00:15:05
Stellium7
So there's so much going on behind the scenes that we, we don't have a clue about, but,
00:15:09
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:15:11
Stellium7
Yeah, so the the why starts to become apparent when you when you really dig into this stuff. And one of the big things is that they're hiding God, they're hiding divinity. They want us to think that we're the result of a bunch of random shit banging around and then, you know, it's from goo to you by way of the zoo.
00:15:29
Stellium7
You know, it's like walking down the beach and...
00:15:30
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:15:32
Stellium7
you know, a tornado whips through the beach and all of a sudden there's a there's a watch there with the back off and you can see all the gears of the watch. You'd be a fool to think that the tornado created the watch just by smashing all the bits of sand together.
00:15:46
Stellium7
But that's essentially what they're telling us has happened with the Big Bang to to where we are now. So That's a good segue into to my research, which is about geology primarily. and i just started asking the question, like what is this place? What what is real? what What can we actually verify? i mean A lot of people, when they get when they go down this and and you present strong enough arguments and they start to go on, they start to question reality, they want immediately to default to simulation theory. theory that It's all just a construct and
00:16:19
Stellium7
You know, it doesn't doesn't really matter anyway, because we're in a big video game. And, and that may be true on some level in the sense that it's God's video game. And and we are, you know, in in something that appears to come from the mind of God.
00:16:33
Stellium7
um But I think it's a bit of a cop out when we do have a very physical material reality and anyone who wants to deny that and, you know, jumps out a window thinking they can fly is going to find out otherwise. And if you beat your head against a wall, you're going to be bludgeoned, you know.
00:16:50
Stellium7
um So I started with, well, the rocks around me. Like, we you know, I, as a chiropractor, I often would look at different kinds of stone and and, or as a child even, and I'd be like, wow, this looks like something that was once alive.
00:17:06
Stellium7
and we're told in the mainstream narrative that in in the geological narrative that that's true that our layers of sediment and and all of these different kinds of stone and all these minerals and everything that these formed from dead and animal and and plant life compressing over millions and millions of years and then you have tectonic activity that's you know, the, the
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00:17:30
Stellium7
plates are banging together and that gives rise to our mountain ranges, which then exposes these different layers, which all break off into smaller and smaller fragments that we call stone.
00:17:39
Stellium7
And, um, you know, I, I, I would look at marble and and other kinds of stone and I'd be like, wow, that looks a lot like tissue. It looks like something that came from being, you know, or, or different actual, you know, smaller stones that, that resemble different things. Now,
00:17:56
Stellium7
There's a concept called pareidolia, which is when you when you see a face or or something that's not really there, you know, in a cloud or in in wood or, you know, you youre we're pattern recognizing beings.
00:18:04
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:18:10
Stellium7
And so we recognize these patterns and things. And that's just, it's a natural thing. Well, it doesn't mean that that pattern that you've recognized is actually a real pattern, right? It, it, it could be just a trick of the eyes or trick of the mind.
00:18:24
Stellium7
Um, there's also a term apophenia, which is similar to. pareidolia, apophenia is the recognition of a ah pattern that doesn't really exist. So you've you you know you you think you've recognized ah some reoccurring pattern in your reality, but it's it's not actually a pattern, and but you've made it one because of your belief.
00:18:45
Stellium7
So it's important to know these things before you dig into this kind of stuff. And a lot of people are completely unaware of it. And so what you get are a lot of people like in in the subject of Titans, which you brought up and in the introduction, Titans or Titanic trees, they'll look at different features in the landscape.
00:19:02
Stellium7
And if you look at any mountain range and you turn your head to the side one way or the other, chances are you're going to see something that either looks like a face or maybe the outline of a body or something.
00:19:13
Stellium7
and And so if you're not aware of pareidolia and apophenia, then you you might start, you know, running with the, you know, the stick and so and championing, you know, titans are everywhere if you just had the eyes to see it. But if you just looked at that mountain from a different angle, it might not look that way.
00:19:32
Stellium7
Right. Or if you so.
00:19:33
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:19:34
Stellium7
so Yeah, i've I've tried to approach this stuff as methodically as possible and and look look at the the empirical evidence that's available, stuff that's based in physical reality, um you know utilizing as many different modalities as as I've been able to with my very limited budget.
00:19:55
Stellium7
Yeah.
00:19:55
Christian Yordanov
yeah so man like i have to say so the the first time i went to an archapulco was 24 and i caught most of your talk and holy cow my mind was blown i i was like damn i have to really what re-watch that because some of the im man some of the pictures you had in there like folks listening you gotta check out the channel uh stellium7 on youtube because it will be of course linked below but It's absolutely like gorgeous, some of the stuff you're sharing, it's beautiful.
00:20:26
Christian Yordanov
um But then this year, i again, I kind of didn't catch your whole talk, I just kind of ah saw half of it when you were showing the stones and and the hearts, which we can we can expand on that later, but like it is absolutely mind-blowing.
00:20:42
Christian Yordanov
So I think let's start with, so did did this start for you exploring where you live in Spain? Is that how it started where you started looking at like the mountains and the rocks and stuff?
00:20:55
Stellium7
Well, the penny drop for me after getting into the earth shape topic was when I came across some channels that were sharing information about giants and then Titans. And at you know, at first I thought, okay, you know, beings the size of mountains, that's a ridiculous notion.
00:21:12
Stellium7
Um, you know, when, when you're still on the ball and you still believe in gravity as we were taught, um, you know, the, the The story that the Einsteinian story of gravity is is that the greater the mass, the more of a warpage of space time you get, which is this medium that he invented, which they claim is now fact. and And there's a lot of very credible scientists that are saying it's just a load of bull.
00:21:42
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:21:42
Stellium7
Most people don't even understand that concept, probably because it's not really understandable because it's complete, you know, fabrication.
00:21:50
Christian Yordanov
Fantasy. Yeah.
00:21:51
Stellium7
Most people are are thinking of the the Newtonian form of gravity, which is mass attracting mass. And the more mass you have, the more gravity you have So that's also been debunked, um, and was superseded by Einstein and gravity.
00:22:07
Stellium7
And what the mainstream would tell us about Titans is that they couldn't possibly have existed because they would have been so big and had so much mass that the gravitational pull would have caused them to collapse under their own weight. Their bones would not have been able to support them.
00:22:22
Stellium7
Well, that's not true. If gravity isn't what we're taught, if gravity is simply explained by density and buoyancy. Things that are dense are going to be lower and things that are that are you know less dense are going to be higher.
00:22:36
Stellium7
And what we call electrostatic attraction, giving a you know a downward bias, that's that's a very interesting way to explain gravity, that you don't even need gravity.
00:22:40
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:22:48
Stellium7
And those are those are things that are measurable and and and are measurable. know here in our physical reality that we can that we can refer to and do experiments with um so they're invoking gravity to to dismiss what the ancients all spoke of as fact.
00:23:07
Stellium7
Our religious texts, our myths, our fairy tales, our legends are all talking about titans and giants and gigantic trees are mentioned in the book of Jasher, the book of Enoch.
00:23:20
Stellium7
God supposedly sent the angels to bring them down so that when he brought the flood in, the The corrupted beings, which was why the flood was brought in, was to purge the realm of the corrupted beings, wouldn't be able to flee up the trees.
00:23:34
Stellium7
So the book of Enoch predates the Bible and is actually referenced in the Bible. right so So there's all of this ancient wisdom that we're told it's just the the imaginings of primitives that that actually lines up
00:23:53
Christian Yordanov
that built the pyramids oh was it after
00:23:55
Stellium7
Yeah, well, the pyramids came after, right? The Tartarian period and the pyramids and the star forts and all that kind of stuff, that's well after Noah's flood.
00:24:07
Christian Yordanov
okay okay okay the delusia
00:24:09
Stellium7
We're talking about the anti-Diluvian time, which would be pre-Noah's flood, anti-before-Diluvian flood. And if you think of the movie Avatar, I think that's like a truth drop. They're just giving it to us. You know, they're talking about...
00:24:23
Stellium7
the the The humans have gone to another planet to to mine unobtainium and they're they're displacing the indigenous peoples of Pandora and you know destroying the environment to get these these different precious minerals that they're that they're searching for. And that environment is comprised of these gigantic trees. So I think ah Hollywood is constantly giving us the truth and in in the form of fiction.
00:24:51
Stellium7
And there's lots and lots of movies that have had these different kinds of truth drops, I think, or tips of the hat to to the truth.
00:24:51
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:25:00
Stellium7
um So, yeah, i came across channels that were talking about these things. then i Then I came across Mud Fossil University. Initially, I kind of liked his stuff, but after a while, I just, I really tired of of so many things that he was claiming just didn't have any substance. And and and i i Yeah, that's that's a whole topic in and of itself. But he basically introduced me to the the idea that that petrification could happen far more quickly than we were taught and that basically anything could petrify.
00:25:37
Stellium7
And I thought, huh, that's an interesting that's an interesting idea. i wonder how long it takes. And at one point I even asked him how long and he said.
00:25:49
Stellium7
He said he had He had petrified a chicken wing or a chicken breast within six months.
00:25:56
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
00:25:56
Stellium7
And I asked what the procedure was and basically it was, um he the reason he calls them mud fossils is that they're they're buried in mud. And then there's there's like salt water is mixed in, which would happen in a great flood, right? You're going to have mud and you're going to have salt water all over the earth.
00:26:17
Stellium7
and And then if you introduce a little bit of electrical current, which we would just get from the earth itself, right? We've got this natural voltage that that that we have in the earth.
00:26:30
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:26:31
Stellium7
that that that's enough to to already initiate the petrification process. And that actually lines up with what the mainstream geological narrative is on petrification, which is it's called paramineralization.
00:26:45
Stellium7
And, and it's basically the, the, the materials that are in the mud are infusing their way into the tissue, whether it's flesh or a plant tissue. And, and as those, those minerals are working their way in the gas and the water that are in the tissues are working their way out. So there's this replacement that's happening.
00:27:03
Stellium7
So that's what, what, when we talk about petrified trees, that's their explanation for how that comes about. There's lots of other things that petrify as well. There are petrified pine cones and in, in, uh, uh, Argentina that, uh, were buried in with a mixture of salt water and, um, uh, ash, volcanic ash, and they petrified to perfection. Like if you do a cross section of these pine cones, it's, you know, all of the detail is still there, but it's now stone.
00:27:37
Stellium7
Um, So the, the other thing about the mud is that it's, it creates an anaerobic environment. So there's no oxygen. So when there's oxygen present, your bacteria and your larvae, your, your different kinds of things that would eat away at the, the, the, the plant life or the, the fleshy material of, of a creature, they're not present. They can't thrive in that environment.
00:28:03
Stellium7
And so it just stays there slowly absorbing these minerals from the things around them. So that was profound for me because it made me realize that, wow, you know, maybe maybe a lot of what what I have been seeing throughout my life that I thought looked like tissue or flesh in stone might actually have been tissue or flesh, but far more recent than what we're taught about the cycle of petrogenesis.
00:28:33
Stellium7
So petro petro meaning stone, Genesis meaning the creation of stone. How long does it take stone to form? Well, they're talking about hundreds of millions of years and all this pressure.
00:28:43
Stellium7
So you have sedimentary layering and then you have metamorphic rock, which is further down that it started to metamorphosize because of all the pressure and the heat.
00:28:53
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
00:28:54
Stellium7
And that gives you a denser rock that has all these swirls in it like marble. And then if you go down far enough, that starts to melt entirely and becomes magma and then lava and gets pushed up through the volcanoes.
00:29:08
Stellium7
And then that blankets the realm when the volcanoes all go off. Right. And, and they're volcanic ash as well. And, and that's that, that's the cycle of petrogenesis from sedimentary to metamorphic to lava and and back.
00:29:23
Stellium7
So. my my thought was, well, what if what if there's a far more direct connection between biological life and stone than what we were taught, and things can petrify far more quickly, and perhaps even petrify in a variety of different ways beyond just the paramineralization that I mentioned before. We can talk about those later on.
00:29:45
Stellium7
um and And so, Then I watched other videos that that were from this channel, Mud Fossil University, and he was going on about a a dragon in the Sahara Desert that you could see on Google Earth. And he's like tilting and looking and and zooming in on on all the different parts and pointing out the different anatomical features.
00:30:09
Stellium7
And I'm like, okay, this is really far-fetched here. He's saying this is a thousand miles long. and it's attacking a fish.
00:30:20
Stellium7
And it's like, okay, a dragon attacking a fish, that's a little odd. But then he started referencing Greek texts. One of the ancient Greek philosophers was talking about this great battle between the Leviathan and the behemoth, which took place, according to the text, in that portion of Africa.
00:30:41
Stellium7
And I'm like, okay, now it's getting more interesting, right? Because now we've got an ancient reference to this great battle and he's showing me anatomical features on Google Earth that that are kind of convincing, you know, but he also um thought he was on a spinning ball and our ball.
00:31:00
Stellium7
if If it is a ball has given dimensions, it's 8,000 miles diameter, roughly 12,000 kilometers, 24,000 miles circumference, roughly 40,000 kilometers are 40. Yeah. and And so if this thing's a thousand miles long and it's on a ball that size, just standing up,
00:31:20
Stellium7
its head is going to be out of the atmosphere. It's going to die of suffocation. You know, it can't, it can't be that tall. and And so, but if this realm is not what we were taught and maybe it's just an infinite plane, or maybe we're in a you know, a little puddle that's surrounded by ice, you know, and I don't know what it is.
00:31:38
Stellium7
I'm not, I'm not making claims about what it is.
00:31:39
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:31:41
Stellium7
I'm, I'm, I'm making claims about what it is and then asking questions about what I can see with my with my own eyes, what you can look at with long distance photography or laser tests or infrared photography or microwave.
00:31:43
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:54
Stellium7
All of it propagates across a straight line, right? It's it's it's. it's So i was like, okay, I don't agree with his cosmology, but I find the ideas interesting. and And that was the penny drop for me because here in Spain, in the town that I live in, there's a mountain that's called Montgo.
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00:32:12
Stellium7
And it's also known as the elephant because it looks a lot like an elephant. And it's not just like the elephant shape as it looks like an elephant that's lying on its stomach with its head tilted back.
00:32:25
Stellium7
There's a cave in exactly the right place where an eye would be. And the cave isn't just an opening. The cave is shaped like an eye socket to a great degree of detail.
00:32:37
Stellium7
and And like we have this eyebrow ridge.
00:32:37
Christian Yordanov
Wow.
00:32:40
Stellium7
Elephants don't have eyebrows, but they theirs is even more prominent. So it's like this cave is eye shaped, eyebrow ridge in the exact location that an eye would be if if it were actually a creature.
00:32:44
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
00:32:55
Stellium7
And so I'm like, this is, this is like the twilight zone. There's no way here, you know? And so I decided to get on Google earth and, and with Google earth, you can tilt it so you can zoom around and see things in
00:33:06
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
00:33:08
Stellium7
And it was really high definition footage because this is a tourist town you know on the Costa Blanca in Spain. And so I could see great detail in this mountain. And I'm looking at the thing from above and from the sides and all around it. I'm like, wow, it's not just the eye. There's actually a quarter moon shape that looks like an ear has has fallen away.
00:33:30
Stellium7
And then where the head is, which is head shaped, right? there's There's two curves in on the sides where the head meets the shoulders. Okay, now we're, so so you've got this idea of pareidolia, which I mentioned before, where something looks like something.
00:33:40
Christian Yordanov
I'm looking at it here.
00:33:49
Stellium7
Well, if you're looking at a mountainscape and it looks like a being or a face, and you look at it from every other angle and it doesn't look like that, chances are you're looking at pareidolia.
00:34:00
Stellium7
But after an hour on Google Earth, I already had um i had a list of 10 anatomical features that were specific. they It wasn't just like, it kind of looks like an elephant, how cute.
00:34:13
Stellium7
It was like i where it should be, neck where it should be. ear where it should be. Then I noticed that right where the the you would have a split between the legs, there's a deep canyon that I had hiked up many times.
00:34:28
Stellium7
I'd been hiking all over this mountain for like eight years before I got on this subject. I've been ah been here and in in this town for 15 years now And I'd been up in the eye multiple times. And when I was up there, I'm looking at it going, this thing is at 375 meters altitude above sea level because this mountain is right on the water, basically.
00:34:48
Stellium7
And I'm like, how the hell did this form? And I'm, you know, tectonic activity.
00:34:51
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:34:52
Stellium7
It just doesn't make any sense, you know, and I just puzzled over it while I was up there and marveled and took in the beauty. But I never thought, oh, I'm inside the eye, eye socket of a great being, you know, it's like I i would check my into myself into an institution if I started having those thoughts, you know.
00:35:10
Stellium7
But yeah.
00:35:10
Christian Yordanov
Wow.
00:35:12
Stellium7
Yeah, so that's that's how it began for me. I had a list of 10 or 12 features that first night. And I'm like, that's already weird because the longer the list gets, the less likely it should be possible.
00:35:24
Stellium7
right It's just logic. you know Games of chance, you roll dice. You're not going to roll double sixes 10 times in a row. It's just like a if you do, it's it's damn near a mathematical impossibility.
00:35:35
Stellium7
Right.
00:35:36
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:36
Stellium7
Maybe it's happened at some point in in history, but, you know, just three times in a row is already a hell of a challenge.
00:35:36
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:35:45
Stellium7
Right. So. Then I, then, you know, the chiropractor in me kicks in because I've studied tissues a lot. I know, i know like how the composition of bone and and these different things. And a and I'm thinking, okay, I'm hold your horses here. Don't, don't jump off the deep end too quick. Let's, let's really analyze this, you know, methodically just as a flight of fancy as fun intellectual exercise. I'm not afraid to go down these rabbit holes, you know,
00:36:13
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:36:14
Stellium7
And so I got out my anatomy books just to refresh my memory on on on the eye socket because I remembered from school that the the the the head is complex. It's got 20 plus bones in it, right? And the eye socket is made of seven different bones that are all meeting to to create that shape.
00:36:34
Stellium7
And those bones have meeting points that are called sutures, which are the lines between the two bones.
00:36:38
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
00:36:40
Stellium7
And then there's fissures, which open up where the optic nerve goes.
00:36:40
Christian Yordanov
okay
00:36:44
Stellium7
So I said, okay, let's do this, you know, in systematically. So I had a laundry list of anatomical features that I would expect to find if I were to go up to the eye again.
00:36:57
Stellium7
And so I took that list in my head with me and, and went up there and I documented that, that, that, uh, that trip with photographs and video and,
00:37:08
Stellium7
And what I found absolutely blew my mind. I found sutures in the right place. I found a fissure where the optic nerve would go, that the remains of the eyeball are there. There's there's a ah hole that we have here in our maxilla called the infraorbital foramen.
00:37:25
Stellium7
And in elephants, it's close to where their trunk would be.
00:37:26
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:37:30
Stellium7
And if that were to be tilted forward, which this mountain appears like that, then that hole would be in front of the eye. And already on Google Earth, I could see that there was a hole there.
00:37:43
Stellium7
And if you go to, I did a six part video series cataloging all of my two year investigation into this mountain and and and showing with photographs and video on site spelunking the caves, show show these features that By the time I was done with the list compiling all of the features, I mean, what what what do you think would be a big number?
00:38:12
Christian Yordanov
I'm guessing 50?
00:38:14
Stellium7
Well, you saw my presentations because that yeah it's over 50, right.
00:38:17
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:18
Stellium7
But I mean, most people like 1520 would already be crazy if, especially if they're specific, right.
00:38:22
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:38:26
Stellium7
and and And it's over 50 after, after two years of investigation and in just the eye, its location, its shape, and all of the anatomical features in the eye, it's nearly 20 just for the eye.
00:38:26
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:38:31
Christian Yordanov
Wow, bro.
00:38:40
Christian Yordanov
bro and it's because they're co-located the fact that because you can you can go over a mountain and if oh this looks kind of like ah joint this kind of looks like this kind of bone theme or whatever but because they're in such close proximity that probably if that was by chance again it becomes more and more of a mathematical impossibility as you stack them one two three four plus
00:38:41
Stellium7
So
00:39:04
Stellium7
Yeah. Yeah. So then it's like, okay, are we in a simulation is, is the universe just screwing with me? You know, is it, is it some kind of a Mandela effect where, where the more you look into something, the more it becomes a reality.
00:39:19
Stellium7
I can't answer those questions, but I just know that, that, uh, it, it got really weird, really quick. And after that trip to the eye, my list was already up to 20. And, uh, and then I started looking into the ear.
00:39:34
Stellium7
And that was when it really went, I went off the deep end with it because there was a canyon that I was going to hike up to try and get as close as I could. Cause this year is up, you know, it's like, like I said, the eye and the year it's the same level, just like ours are and 375 meters. And it's like sheer cliff, but I wanted to get up close to it to see if maybe, maybe inside this quarter moon shape, there's a cave, you know, I couldn't see it from the road, but I thought if I got up close,
00:40:03
Stellium7
So I got on on Google to find the name of the road to to get up as close as I could to the structure. And when I did that, um there there were the third link down was Cova del Middia.
00:40:21
Stellium7
Cova is Valenciano. That's local dialect for cave of midday. And I'm like, there's a cave there that I didn't know about. Right. And so so I click on the link in it and it turns out that there was a team of geologists and archaeologists who had used harnesses and ropes to get up into this cave.
00:40:46
Stellium7
And they went in and they excavated this cave. They found skeletons that were buried in mud, which they excavated. There was video of them doing the excavation.
00:40:56
Stellium7
There were cave paintings, and the cave paintings were four-legged creature with horns, deluge, creatures falling from the sky. Those were the cave paintings inside.
00:41:08
Stellium7
Very rudimentary, like someone ah you know drew, who knows, maybe that you know maybe they were faked, but it looks you know it looks to be authentic.
00:41:08
Christian Yordanov
Holy shit.
00:41:12
Christian Yordanov
Holy cow.
00:41:18
Stellium7
They went in with LiDAR. They 3D mapped the inside of the cave. I've got it in, in if you watched my first video, Unveiling a Titan,
00:41:29
Stellium7
The first, all of them start with this little opener. I have a 90 second teaser on my channel. If you go to the channel, I think it starts automatically when you go to the channel.
00:41:38
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
00:41:39
Stellium7
You can see the LIDAR scans. You can see them in there doing the excavation. You can see the cave paintings and guess what the cave is shaped like. Looks just like an ear canal.
00:41:51
Stellium7
going in. So like, what what are the odds? You know, you have to keep asking yourself this question, like, how big does that number have to get before you start to consider what seems like a batshit crazy idea could be a possibility.
00:41:55
Christian Yordanov
you
00:42:06
Stellium7
And for some people, you know, that number might be 20 for others, 30. If you're not convinced at 50, the fifth video of of my my series, the thumbnail of that video is showing the member the structure I talked about the hole that's actually here on the elephant, that that's that hole would go perpendicular to the eye socket.
00:42:33
Stellium7
And it does it's there and and you can see the photograph looking through that hole and it has a very biological look to it. It doesn't look like something that forms through some kind of erosion process or water or something like that.
00:42:47
Stellium7
Um, and, and so If that wasn't enough, one of the final straws for a lot of people who were on the fence with my, my investigation was I was in an interview and I went to go onto Google earth.
00:43:02
Stellium7
Like I had done hundreds of times by that point to show the person interviewing me, um, you know, some of these different structures that I've just described verbally and the, the eye and the ear had been blurred out.
00:43:13
Christian Yordanov
Hmm.
00:43:20
Stellium7
on Google Earth. And I had been using it for a couple of years at that point. And all of a sudden you couldn't see the eye. And then I zoomed in closer and all of a sudden the eye opened up and I'm like, what? That was weird.
00:43:33
Stellium7
And then I backed up and it closed again. And then I zoomed in and it opened and then I backed up and closed. I'm like, this is this looks like it's been done by hand. This doesn't look like some kind of a computer glitch. It looks like somebody went in and like, you know, but if you get up close enough to it, you see the detail.
00:43:51
Stellium7
But now you can't see the whole the whole mountain like you could before um it and still see the eye and the ear because they've been blocked out.
00:44:02
Stellium7
and And so the the fun thing was that I had, you're not allowed to fly drones there because it's a national park. So I i went with Google Earth and you you know you can zoom from all kinds of different angles and you can even curl around. You can you can like fly Google Earth as if it were a drone.
00:44:22
Stellium7
And I was doing that while screen recording. So I used those those shots in my first four videos of the series.
00:44:31
Christian Yordanov
Nice.
00:44:31
Stellium7
First one is just an overview, which basically people have gotten now by listening to this. Second one was all about the eye. Third one was about the ear. Fourth one was about the tissues of the mountain. So now I'm looking at what is the composition of bone?
00:44:46
Stellium7
What is the composition of the mountain? We can get to that in a second, but The fifth one, show the before and after of Google Earth because I had all the before footage that I'd used for the videos.
00:45:00
Stellium7
So it's like you can decide for yourself if that just looks like some kind of a rendering glitch you know from from Google Earth or if it looks like it was done intentionally. And a lot of people were like, i was on the fence before, but now I'm convinced you know because
00:45:10
Christian Yordanov
yeah
00:45:15
Stellium7
Someone has taken the effort to to to blur this out.
00:45:17
Christian Yordanov
hu
00:45:21
Stellium7
Why? like It's already such a far-fetched idea anyway, but I guess people didn't someone didn't want other people going and examining the things that I'm talking about. So now when you look at it, it looks more like a blob.
00:45:36
Stellium7
A lot of people have also, they don't have three d buildings turned on. If you have 3D buildings turned on, you get the 3D footage of the mountain. And if it's turned off, it just looks like a blob.
00:45:48
Stellium7
And and some I've had people say it looks more like a slug or it looks more like a whale. Not if the 3D buildings are turned on. Then you see all the detail of the mountain.
00:45:59
Christian Yordanov
Amazing, amazing man. And um just going back to the kind of the the flatter stuff, and obviously I'm gonna talk to Dave about it in more depth, but back in 2018, let's just say I had a lot of time on my hands, a lot of curiosity, and I started getting into the stuff.
00:46:16
Christian Yordanov
um Just because i told my
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00:46:18
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00:46:24
Stellium7
Go off the deep end. Yeah.
00:46:26
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, like I'm just gonna look into, the think of this, i think of this as a psychology sort of ah study of of how deranged these guys might be.
00:46:36
Christian Yordanov
It must be all the trauma. of uncovering all these other conspiracies that they're like you know you don't mean they become deranged i thought so two weeks into it yeah
00:46:46
Stellium7
That's what I thought with, with Alex Michael. I thought, okay, yeah I literally had the thought I can never trust another thing. This guy says because he completely lacks discernment.
00:46:53
Christian Yordanov
yeah exactly yeah
00:46:56
Stellium7
If he's willing to believe something so absurd, then he's willing to believe anything. And if you're willing to believe anything, it's the same as believing nothing.
00:47:03
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, exactly.
00:47:04
Stellium7
So yeah.
00:47:05
Christian Yordanov
So, yeah, so I started looking into it and, man, like the algorithm was good. You would get like videos, like real videos. But over that period of time, I saw it with my own eyes.
00:47:19
Christian Yordanov
How some videos, dude, dude, I swear to God, i don't, there was screenshots of this on on the internet still.
00:47:23
Stellium7
finished. um
00:47:26
Christian Yordanov
There was under the freaking YouTube videos, there was a blob of text telling you, the By the way, the earth is not flat. you know the we fact know There wasn't fact checkers yet, but you know that like they were putting that under the videos. And then I noticed how these channels basically got kind of, not not shadow banned per se, but they you you would just get like the the retarded, how to but like how to make people think this whole thing is retarded.
00:47:54
Christian Yordanov
You go to the first page of results, I saw that with my very eyes and then all the other conspiracy stuff that the algorithm was serving me, that eventually was replaced with just really just really dumb stuff that, yeah, propaganda that, got just someone that's like, let me give let me look into it.
00:48:06
Stellium7
Propaganda. Yeah.
00:48:11
Christian Yordanov
It's like, I was talking to, just quick tangent, i was talking to one guy, it's like um he was about to have a kid, I said something about the vaccines, I didn't know the guy, we were just at it at a dinner or a soccer match or something.
00:48:23
Christian Yordanov
And then he's like, oh, I looked into it. He's like, I looked into it. So I was like, dude, i got I got him real riled up. So what did you look? Did you look at like cdc.com or some shit or.gov? Is that what you call looking into it? So that's why like someone said, let me look into this. They go, they see this shit served up, the absolute slop.
00:48:43
Christian Yordanov
And they're like, okay, you you people are crazy. I'm moving on with my life. So the fact that that happened does not makes me very ah easily believe that they can do that with a bunch of other stuff beyond what you you know your work.
00:49:02
Christian Yordanov
I'm sure it's happening in thousands of of places.
00:49:03
Stellium7
Well, Google was called before Congress in 2019 and they were like, what are you going to do to to stem this you know tide of you know fake news and and conspiracy theories and all these things?
00:49:21
Stellium7
And they specifically mentioned Flat Earth and they said, well, what we're going to do is we're going to tweak the algorithms so that we're going to be promoting the material that that gives people the the truth.
00:49:23
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:49:33
Stellium7
And we're going to, you know, demote the the the the crazy conspiracy theories like Flat Earth. And they mentioned Flat Earth. And that's exactly what happened. It was literally an overnight thing you could see.
00:49:44
Stellium7
And then so, and that was the flat earthers were ahead of the game. So there wasn't much anti-flat earth content, but it was growing by leaps and bounds in 2018.
00:49:54
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:49:55
Stellium7
It was the most It was like Trump and Flat Earth were the two most searched for things on the Internet.
00:50:00
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. It was huge at that point.
00:50:01
Stellium7
And it was huge. And the algorithms were giving you more and more content the more you watch. And there was some great stuff that was coming out and people were doing experiments and they weren't just crazies. You know, they they were like very level headed. They were doing.
00:50:16
Stellium7
weather balloon tests where they're sending the balloons. Rob s Skiba did it. He sent up a balloon.
00:50:21
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
00:50:22
Stellium7
He did it like three different times to 120,000 feet with reclinear rectilinear rectilinear lens. Right.
00:50:29
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
00:50:29
Stellium7
Which means that it's all lenses are going to show a little bit of curvature, but the rectilinear is going to give you the least amount.
00:50:31
Christian Yordanov
No curvature. Yeah.
00:50:36
Stellium7
Right.
00:50:37
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:50:38
Stellium7
And Everything that NASA was giving us was fisheye lenses. Like if you looked at the footage from the ISS and you just knew how to do basic geometry and you knew the size that they tell us the Earth is and how far away they are from the Earth.
00:50:43
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:50:53
Stellium7
And then you look at at the curvature that they're showing from their supposed live cams. It's like they're they're showing a half of a hemisphere from 253 miles altitude, categorically impossible.
00:51:05
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:06
Stellium7
Fish eye
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00:51:11
Christian Yordanov
and And sorry to interrupt, but...
00:51:12
Stellium7
The rectilinear lens at 120,000 horizon straight as arrow. horizon as straight as an arrow
00:51:18
Christian Yordanov
Sorry to interrupt, but also Neil deGrasse Tyson is publicly has publicly stated you cannot see curvature from an airplane. And recently, i I don't know, someone was saying that apparently they're saying the Earth is so big that you actually shouldn't be able to see curvature from the ISS either.
00:51:37
Christian Yordanov
So it keeps fucking changing, dude.
00:51:39
Stellium7
Exactly. Yeah. Well, he said 80,000 feet, I think, in that in that clip, you know, where he's like, that shit is flat, you know.
00:51:45
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:51:47
Stellium7
and and But I mean, if you look at the construction of the the windows on the airplanes, they're made of plastic, right?
00:51:47
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:55
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:51:55
Stellium7
And they the plastic bows with the atmospheric pressure inside the cabin. So you you literally get a bending of things even when you're on the ground. So if you ever look out those windows and you see a ah horizon from from the tarmac, you can you can discern curvature. you know it's it's there's There's so many things that people never pondered.
00:52:16
Christian Yordanov
but but but But here's the thing. I'm sorry again, to because this gets me excited because i did, dude, I did months of freaking research. Months. Okay. So months.
00:52:27
Christian Yordanov
So, um so the ah the dude, I don't know if it's still on you own Wikipedia.
00:52:31
Stellium7
Two weeks. Two weeks to flatten the ball.
00:52:33
Christian Yordanov
I don't know.
00:52:35
Stellium7
but
00:52:36
Christian Yordanov
dude um Listen, listen, back then, i remember going, i dude, I swear to God, I went on Wikipedia and on Wikipedia, I'm sure it's not there now, but ah there was a picture of half a boat, you know, on the horizon, kind of sinking over the the horizon line. And aren the caption of that Wikipedia picture said, here is, you know, along the lines of a boat kind of going over the kaai horizon, proving, know,
00:53:06
Christian Yordanov
ah um the curvature of the earth. The horizon is like, what, five kilometers?
00:53:09
Stellium7
Yeah.
00:53:12
Christian Yordanov
So like three or four miles away? It's like, you see curvature there?
00:53:14
Stellium7
Yeah. And then you got boneheads like Bill Nye, the the science guy, who's like doing it, you know, showing ah like a little model and explaining how it it goes over the curve. And it's like, it's literally,
00:53:26
Christian Yordanov
And listen, I grew up with Bill Nye.
00:53:26
Stellium7
it's it's literally
00:53:27
Christian Yordanov
and And I'm actually like for my daughter because like she she kind of, we we let her watch some stuff. And I used to love The Magic School Bus when I was a kid. So I got the four, there's four seasons of it, of The Magic School Bus.
00:53:41
Christian Yordanov
And dude, hell. First episode, they're talking about the earth and the solar system. Like, Jesus, I have to delete that one. And then another time I i heard they were like,
00:53:50
Stellium7
Yeah.
00:53:53
Christian Yordanov
talking about get your shots of the bacteria. And then, dude, i this was disturbing because because my kid was like, a girl sneezed on her.
00:53:57
Stellium7
It's all propaganda.
00:54:02
Christian Yordanov
He's like, I gotta get the bacteria. I'm like, geez, we've been getting programmed since we're like four years old. Four.
00:54:09
Stellium7
Yeah.
00:54:10
Christian Yordanov
It's unbelievable.
00:54:10
Stellium7
Yeah, nobody likes their ball taken away from them either. So they they tend to react in very unpredictable ways and cognitive dissonance kicks in.
00:54:13
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:54:17
Christian Yordanov
Yeah,
00:54:19
Stellium7
and And what's interesting is people who've never looked into it, they've got all of these pre-programmed counters, these these questions that that they just they they've just come out of thin air.
00:54:26
Christian Yordanov
hu
00:54:31
Stellium7
They've never even looked into the topic and all of a sudden they're, yeah, but, you know, ah Rob Skiba's, you know, his balloon balloon,
00:54:33
Christian Yordanov
yeah
00:54:40
Stellium7
experiments were really fascinating to me. And then there was ah the the famous Chicago skyline photograph that they talked about on the news where it's what you're seeing here is mirage, you know.
00:54:49
Christian Yordanov
that's it's a mirage yeah
00:54:53
Stellium7
and And he and Rick Hammer, who's a good friend of mine, they they wanted to test that hypothesis. And so what they did is they waited for a really clear day where they could see the Chicago skyline from the other side.
00:55:06
Stellium7
And they took a boat across filming the whole way. And they had the, they had the entire skyline in, in the camera, the whole way. So they debunked that thoroughly as well.
00:55:16
Christian Yordanov
The mirage didn't disappear. Yeah.
00:55:18
Stellium7
So people don't and know all this stuff. And what i was going to say about the the shadow banning is it is shadow banning because if it was full, full blown censorship, they would just take the channels down.
00:55:28
Stellium7
But that would also be like, oh, if it's so is it really so threatening that you have to actually you know go against the First Amendment and censor this stuff?
00:55:29
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:55:36
Stellium7
Because it's so... I mean, you can talk about aliens doing whatever all day long and have no evidence for it whatsoever and get millions of views. But you talked you know in 2019, 2020, you talked about Flat Earth.
00:55:51
Stellium7
her Your view count just went into the toilet. And and that happened to...
00:55:56
Christian Yordanov
unless you were making fun of it yeah professor Dave yeah yeah
00:55:58
Stellium7
Right, then you got promoted, like Simon Dan and and Professor Dave, those guys are total tools, they're they're just like idiots. And and you know Professor Dave debated Dave Weiss once, and someone had a fallacy policy counter.
00:56:12
Christian Yordanov
he was such a knob yeah
00:56:14
Stellium7
you know and In the space of like an hour, dave Professor Dave, not Dave Weiss, committed like 200 logical fallacies in the space of an hour, and he was a rude motherfucker.
00:56:23
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, think that seen that.
00:56:27
Stellium7
you know
00:56:27
Christian Yordanov
He was such an obnoxious cunt.
00:56:28
Stellium7
He was such an asshole.
00:56:30
Christian Yordanov
What a
00:56:31
Stellium7
Yeah.
00:56:31
Christian Yordanov
Pardon my French.
00:56:31
Stellium7
So, I mean, it's like there's, and and these are the guys that are getting promoted and getting millions of views. Meanwhile, and this is where Dave's app is amazing and I'm sure he'll tell you all about it.
00:56:43
Stellium7
Um, is, is, you know, he's got a ah frequently asked questions section on the app, which is awesome because all of those knee jerk questions that, um what about the ISS?
00:56:43
Christian Yordanov
I have it. He gave me access.
00:56:51
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:56:54
Stellium7
What about the curvature? What about the Coriolis effect? All this stuff that pops into their mind that they've been programmed to to believe is true.
00:56:59
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:57:05
Stellium7
If you click on any one of those questions, you'll get an entire playlist.
00:57:07
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:57:09
Stellium7
And it's everything from short two-minute videos to one-hour, two-hour videos going in-depth into the subject.
00:57:14
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:57:16
Stellium7
Many of the videos on those playlists are shadow banned. They're still there because all it is is a a reference to the video that you click on and it takes you to the YouTube channel link, you know.
00:57:28
Stellium7
um But those videos, if you know the name of the video and even the channel name and you put those in and search for them, many of those videos won't even come up. that's That's how they do it. They just render it insignificant by making it so that it never comes up on your radar.
00:57:44
Christian Yordanov
And another thing I saw was there was channels with the same name as like, there was a guy Eric DeBay, I was watching his stuff for a while and there was other channels popping up and they were gaining subscribers, but the the guys, what they were talking about was like straight up retarded shit.
00:57:44
Stellium7
And
00:58:03
Christian Yordanov
And those were the things that were, if you typed in the guy's name, Eric DeBay in the search engine, in the Google, sorry, the YouTube, yeah, those came up, dude, like,
00:58:09
Stellium7
those come up. Hmm.
00:58:12
Christian Yordanov
And again, i was just kind of really getting into conspiracy stuff back in 2018. ah But when I saw that in front of my over, like in real time over weeks and and those few months, that's when i was like, and and I was talking to someone in Arcapulco, young guy. And he's like, the only thing that made me look into it is because they were censoring it so hard.
00:58:36
Christian Yordanov
It just makes people question, why are they working why are they not censoring, all like old like you said, all the dumb stuff about you know the Anunnaki and and like all of these like far out things of aliens come and seeding the earth.
00:58:39
Stellium7
Yeah.
00:58:49
Stellium7
All the stuff on the Gaia network.
00:58:51
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:58:52
Stellium7
Yeah.
00:58:53
Christian Yordanov
Why not censoring that?
00:58:55
Stellium7
Good question. Maybe, maybe because the flat earthers are over the target and you get the most flack when you're over the target.
00:58:56
Christian Yordanov
But look... that
00:59:01
Stellium7
Right. So there's, there's
00:59:02
Christian Yordanov
that this was probably like priming whatever part of the audience didn't because i'm this is me coming out I guess that I'm a non-glober I guess but skeptic yeah
00:59:12
Stellium7
Yeah. Well, again, globe skeptic. You don't have to be married to a shape. i think anyone who's 100% certain that they know the shape, I'm immediately skeptical of them.
00:59:22
Christian Yordanov
it's really that's a religious belief yeah
00:59:23
Stellium7
Because you can't get outside of the construct. You don't know what it's like from the outside looking in all of the footage that they have shown us that supposedly is doing that is all BS.
00:59:33
Stellium7
So, you know, you can't, you can't make claims about something that you know. Okay. Now, now some some guys have supposedly been to Antarctica, right? they They sent the final experiment, which wasn't an experiment at all.
00:59:48
Stellium7
You know, it's, it was an observation. Like the name itself was already a fallacy because to have an experiment, you have to have a manipulable variable.
00:59:51
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
00:59:57
Stellium7
You have to have a control. These are the the tenets of of the scientific method. So it wasn't an experiment. It was just an observation. They went to a particular point.
01:00:08
Stellium7
They were not allowed to tour around and check out the place for themselves. And they witnessed something in the sky and then made a bunch of conclusions about that.
01:00:18
Stellium7
about the shape of our earth. And it's like, that's like looking at the light on the ceiling. And then, you know, it's, it's round. So, so clearly, I'm, I'm standing, you know, the floor is also a sphere, you know, it's, I moderated flat earth panel debate,
01:00:31
Christian Yordanov
yeah yeah
01:00:38
Stellium7
at Ann Arcopolco and Dave Weiss was there. And at one point somebody was like, yeah, but you can see that all the objects in the sky are spheres. Are they really? We only ever once see one side of the moon, right?
01:00:50
Christian Yordanov
yeah
01:00:51
Stellium7
It rotates this way as it goes across the sky, but we never see it turn. We've seen the same face forever, right?
01:00:58
Christian Yordanov
forever
01:00:59
Stellium7
and And so do we know that it's a sphere? Do we know that the the sun is a sphere? We don't really know.
01:01:04
Christian Yordanov
Isn't that called Libration? Yeah,
01:01:07
Stellium7
I'm not sure.
01:01:08
Christian Yordanov
yeah I had ah ah one friend, i sent that to send that to him, and he was very very geeky, nerdy sort of science.
01:01:15
Stellium7
I mean the rotation of the moon.
01:01:17
Christian Yordanov
that No, there he said that there's a ah that phenomenon where the the the moon, the reason, whatever way it's turning, and whatever way the earth is turning, it's because they're in, so I think maybe that that's a term.
01:01:29
Stellium7
All right. Yeah, maybe that's the term. Yeah, that the moon is turning it at just the right speed so that we never see any other face.
01:01:33
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:01:35
Christian Yordanov
Yes, forever.
01:01:38
Stellium7
And and and so it's the same thing with the the moon and the sun being the same size in the sky.
01:01:38
Christian Yordanov
Yes.
01:01:44
Stellium7
They say that the moon is 400 times smaller than the sun.
01:01:45
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:01:48
Stellium7
Why are they the same size? Because the moon just luckily happens to be exactly 400 times closer. Like, what are the odds? Do the math. You know, um there's so many things like that. And Dave Weiss has so many great clips that show you that what you think you know visually, you don't know.
01:02:07
Stellium7
you It's you know, and I and I said in the panel, someone someone said, well, everything in the sky is a sphere.
01:02:07
Christian Yordanov
yeah yeah
01:02:13
Stellium7
So it makes sense that the Earth would be a sphere. And I said, well, that's like saying that that the billiard balls are spheres on a billiard table. So the billiard table must also be a sphere.
01:02:23
Christian Yordanov
yeah
01:02:24
Stellium7
You know, it's it's as as ridiculous as that. So, yeah, there's way more to it all than than the people who want to mock it are aware of. And then you've got people who either have a vested interest in promoting lies or they're just they're they're suffering from cognitive dissonance so hard that.
01:02:41
Stellium7
Nothing you could ever present to them would ever convince them because their whole reality is wrapped up in this stuff.
01:02:42
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:02:48
Stellium7
I find a lot of the worst people when it comes to, you know, actually engaging in this investigation with an open mind and, you know, doing it methodically are the people who are atheists.
01:03:01
Stellium7
and space junkies and, you know, Elon Musk is their hero. And, you know, they probably like to go to cosplay and, you know, play video games all day long and jack off to porn.
01:03:08
Christian Yordanov
oh
01:03:13
Stellium7
those ah Those are the guys that that are the the hardcore, you know, flip outs when you when you bring up this subject.
01:03:19
Christian Yordanov
Mike, tell the listeners, if I'm sure you know all of this, so tell the listeners who, dude, why are we, supposed to talk biogeology.
01:03:30
Christian Yordanov
Tell the listeners who Werner von Braun is, what he did in terms of like ah the Apollo series and what's written on his gravestone.
01:03:30
Stellium7
Okay.
01:03:36
Stellium7
Sure.
01:03:40
Christian Yordanov
Just, that'd be interesting.
01:03:40
Stellium7
Yeah. s So Werner von Braun was a Nazi scientist that was, I think he was an SS guard as well, but I might be wrong about that. And he was one of something like 1500 Nazi scientists that were brought over after World War II and basically disseminated into the American culture without the American people having any clue about it.
01:04:04
Stellium7
It's called Project Paperclip. And, uh, Werner von Braun was the most prominent of those. And, uh, he was the founder of NASA and the supposed designer of the Saturn five rocket that took us to the moon six times.
01:04:18
Stellium7
And, um, his, uh,
01:04:20
Christian Yordanov
Apollo, no? Wasn't it Apollo?
01:04:24
Stellium7
uh, the Saturn five rocket. Yeah. The Apollo missions.
01:04:27
Christian Yordanov
Okay, okay, sorry, okay.
01:04:27
Stellium7
Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, um, yeah, so his his gravestone, uh, it has, it has, uh, his, you know, dates of being alive, his name. And then it says Psalms 19 one, which is a Bible verse.
01:04:45
Stellium7
And, and that verse is the heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament showeth his hand handiwork. So this is a guy who supposedly got us to the moon six times. On his gravestone is is the Bible verse referencing the existence of the firmament, which is our enclosure, according to biblical cosmology.
01:05:11
Stellium7
You know, the the God in separated the the waters above from the waters below with the firmament. You know, don' I forget which day it was of of creation, right?
01:05:23
Stellium7
And so that that's interesting that this, you know, Nazi scientist project paperclip guy who also happened to be like best friends with Disney. And so Disney was putting out all the cartoons and all of these shows that everything space, space, space that I was a junkie for as a kid.
01:05:40
Stellium7
um You know, those guys were working in tandem. Then you got you got JPL, Jet Propulsion Laboratory for Jack Parsons, who was a open Satanist tied to the sci-fi author, what's his name?
01:05:58
Stellium7
um Started his own religion, Scientology, L.
01:06:01
Christian Yordanov
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. L.
01:06:03
Stellium7
Ron Hubbard, right?
01:06:04
Christian Yordanov
Ron Hubbard. Yeah.
01:06:06
Stellium7
those are So, I mean, these are the kinds of people that gave us space, right? and
01:06:11
Christian Yordanov
And sorry to, again, I'm sorry to interrupt because there's like, there's so many like mini things to develop here. What was the, I forget the, the I'm not being into movies and stuff. What was the the film company where they have like a globe as a logo that was like that?
01:06:28
Stellium7
Universal, Paramount, they they all use like multiple use globes and
01:06:28
Christian Yordanov
I think unit maybe universal. So,
01:06:33
Christian Yordanov
but they've had that logo decades before we actually saw what the earth looks like from space allegedly yeah
01:06:39
Stellium7
yeah. Yeah, I mean, the the space programming goes back to the beginning of motion pictures. If you like one of the first movies ever made black and white motion pictures before sound was a trip to the moon, you know, and it's like a bunch of guys that look like wizards in an alchemical laboratory with pointy hats who send a rocket that looks like a bullet to the moon and there's moon men there and it's made of cheese or something. i mean, it's just like They've been they've been priming the pump. And then before we ever got anything into space to supposedly take a photograph of the Earth or get to the moon and look back at the Earth, Paramount already had, you know, the globe spinning with the the continents more or less like they they give them to us now. So how did they know that? You know, it's just it.
01:07:28
Stellium7
It goes on and on and on.
01:07:28
Christian Yordanov
Magic. Yeah.
01:07:29
Stellium7
It's a big, deep, wide rabbit hole. But I call i call Flat Earth the skeleton key of conspiracy theories. Because when you really go down this one, it starts to tie all of the other ones together.
01:07:42
Stellium7
It ties together the hidden history, like Tartary, mud floods, star forts, world's fairs, all these things that seem like separate rabbit holes. They all dovetail beautifully, and they all represent a history that has been hidden from us. and and wiped out of the history books, the Rockefeller history books, right?
01:08:03
Stellium7
And and the the Maxwell history books, Ghislaine Maxwell's dad with was McGraw Hill or something.
01:08:05
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:08:11
Stellium7
So he picked up the torch after Rockefeller.
01:08:11
Christian Yordanov
Yes, I think so, yeah.
01:08:15
Stellium7
So Rockefeller 100 years ago took over medicine, took over publishing and took over education. And, you know, and they just started filling us with all these lies about our past.
01:08:21
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
01:08:25
Stellium7
And that's what we've all grown up believing is the timelines of our history and when the supposed empires happen and all this stuff that I studied in college. You know, I studied in Italy. studied a lot of the history, and history.
01:08:40
Stellium7
and all this stuff. and And I've come to the conclusion, you know, after all these years of looking into this stuff, that's it's all a fabrication to get us completely bamboozled and unaware of what of what is really going on here.
01:08:52
Christian Yordanov
bamboozled is the word yeah yeah
01:08:55
Stellium7
Because if we don't know who we are and where we came from and what the real history of this place is, then they can tell us anything and we'll just we'll just buy it, which is exactly what's happening.
01:09:03
Christian Yordanov
yeah it's like a delirium Like the reality we, we in our, that so we construct our model of the world inside, obviously our mind. And when you, it's just, it's like, I sometimes think about it. Imagine you're like a kid growing up and you're like, say, you know, your, your parents are little bit psycho deranged and they teach you to count where you count one two, five, five,
01:09:30
Christian Yordanov
for you know just the jumble up a couple of those numbers one to nine and you think that's how counting work like how delirious and and sort of deranged would your with your interaction be with the world now it wouldn't be with everything right because it would just where numbers matter but imagine you do that about everything like history and and and cosmology and and medicine and what's healthy and ah just all of it dude and then you have these people that we're basically a lot of us until we start waking up and going down these rabbit holes we're basically living in this sort of manufactured delirium where, you know, a delirious person is a lot easier to control and and and extract from than someone that's awake, lucid, and freaking, you know, understands who they are, so what what's where do they come from.
01:10:00
Stellium7
Mm-hmm.
01:10:26
Christian Yordanov
Because like you said, a lot of this fear goes away once you start going down these rabbit holes. The fear of nukes, the fear of asteroids, you know, all of this stuff, with viruses, it all goes away, man, you know?
01:10:35
Stellium7
Yeah.
01:10:38
Stellium7
Yeah.
01:10:39
Christian Yordanov
yeah so let can we can i can we dovetail into the i want to be i know it's it's later there than here so i want to be respectful of your time so maybe for the last you know little while i want to dovetail the conversation from our current one into the titans so what do you think was it the titans that extincted the dinosaurs or what
01:10:40
Stellium7
yeah It's, uh,
01:10:48
Stellium7
it's fun. I can go with it. Yeah.
01:11:04
Stellium7
I don't think dinosaurs existed.
01:11:05
Christian Yordanov
That was a joke. That was joke, bro.
01:11:07
Stellium7
All right, i think I think there's far more evidence in favor of dragons than than dinosaurs.
01:11:08
Christian Yordanov
That was shit.
01:11:13
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, same here. that
01:11:13
Stellium7
And you know large reptiles definitely existed. Everything was bigger. Even in the mainstream you know geological narrative, they talk about megaflora and megafauna.
01:11:26
Stellium7
and And so the question is how mega were they?
01:11:26
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
01:11:29
Stellium7
How big did things get? You know, you saw my presentation two years ago at Anarchapulco. I only had 45 minutes on stage, so I focused entirely on the evidence in favor of the the big trees.
01:11:41
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
01:11:41
Stellium7
A lot of people might have come across, you know, the the stumps like Devil's Tower in Wyoming.
01:11:41
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
01:11:49
Stellium7
There's these different plateau mountains around the world that have a very tree-like look to them, which begs the question, why are they flat-topped? Who cut them down? You can't explain those flat tops by erosion.
01:12:01
Stellium7
they want us The official story for how that those basalt columns formed is that lava pushed up through the earth and then there was a rapid cooling event, you know maybe the comet strike that Graham Hancock likes to talk about or something where...
01:12:16
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
01:12:17
Stellium7
the whatever it was that flash froze the mammoths in siberia and that that quick cooling caused uh an expansion of the lava but it had nowhere to go because of the earth around it and so that pressure is what gave rise to these honeycomb columns that's the official story they tell us it happened 50 million years ago and that That the earth, so the earth had to be like devil's towers over, I think over 1000 feet tall, I don't remember the exact number.
01:12:48
Stellium7
So the earth had to be that much taller for that expansion in those columns to form.
01:12:52
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:12:54
Stellium7
So then over 50 million year years, all of that earth eroded and went, where? Yeah. into the ocean or something. ah you know They're just things that that are claimed to be fact. And tens of thousands of geologists have been claiming these these things for a long time, even though there's differing theories about how it all happened.
01:13:16
Stellium7
um You know, but it has a very tree like look to it and and and it looks like, you know, the kinds of fibers that we see in plant life or tree life.
01:13:28
Stellium7
And so I see that as a data point.
01:13:32
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:13:32
Stellium7
I don't see it as conclusive proof. I see it as interesting.
01:13:35
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
01:13:38
Stellium7
I mean, there's types of mushrooms that have the same form. And, you know, when we're talking about the big trees, I've i've toured the South, the the Black Hills of South Dakota and Colorado with a guy named Mike Alley, who's got a channel called Hangman 1128. And he He has basically done for trees what I did for Titans when it comes to you know his investigations.
01:14:02
Stellium7
Lots of boots on the ground, incredible HD footage of these sites. And he's showing that these mountains are representing the the the tree in every form from the macro to the micro.
01:14:18
Stellium7
But we're talking about trees that could have been as much as 50 or 100 miles wide at the base. So how tall would that go up? And, you know, if there's a firmament there, how high up is it? And, you know, what was this place? But what I can tell you unequivocally and having been there and seen this stuff with my own eyes is that it's manifesting tree in every way, right? The, the, the, the,
01:14:44
Stellium7
The quartz seams that are being mined for the gold and the silver and all the precious gems and different things that they're getting, the geologists and the mining companies are are pulling out of the earth.
01:14:57
Stellium7
These things are are manifesting the petrified sap, the petrified grain, the bark of the trees. All of it is there, but but a little piece like that would be this big in ah in a you know a tree that's a foot wider, it's fallen down in the forest, is starting to decompose.
01:15:15
Stellium7
That little piece would be 50 or 100 feet wide, but it's identical. And that's what that's what he's showing with all that footage.
01:15:22
Christian Yordanov
Wow. Yeah.
01:15:22
Stellium7
so
01:15:23
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:15:23
Stellium7
so devil's tower the tabletop mountains the tipuiz which are these similar uh structures like in venezuela where you have these never-ending waterfalls that are just coming that can't be explained by rainfall all of those are just data points they're just and the question is how many of those data points do you need to to see before you start to go all right this is just a fact those trees existed Well, mainstream geology cannot acknowledge their existence because it completely debunks the size of the earth, the the age of things, the the whole, everything we've been taught about our former reality is is debunked by the existence of Titans and and the great trees.
01:16:07
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:16:07
Stellium7
So they have to make claims like, oh, the gravity would would make them collapse and and and we we can't, you know, everything deflects away from this kind of information.
01:16:20
Christian Yordanov
wow i just looked at some pictures as you were talking it's like this devil's tower in wyoming i don't know man like i don't know but okay so man let's just uh again briefly because we we definitely gonna have you on again bro because these are yeah
01:16:29
Stellium7
Looks like tree to me.
01:16:39
Stellium7
Yeah, and I can show, I mean, it's, you know, fun with conversation just to see where it goes. And then next time I can pull up a PowerPoint and present a lot of these things.
01:16:44
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, of course. Of course. Since we're kind of having fun, i want, i want, i love, because i I just love to, sometimes I'm walking my dog and I'm just thinking about like just random, like just kind of random theories pop into my head about what if it's this, what if it's that, or is its a simulation? What if it's, you know, the reincarnation soul trap, like just kind of thinking stuff. So, you know, I think over time we develop things were more inclined, like if you had to pick one, like what could be more, um you know, viable of a theory that. So I'm just curious as you've been doing this now for years and years, what's like.
01:17:28
Christian Yordanov
what's like when you're sitting there you know smoking the pipe at the end of the day what do you think was actually like going on like i don't know how how long ago it was but like the titans like what size do you think they were what do you think what the hell was going on like some thoughts that would be amazing
01:17:43
Stellium7
Well, first of all, that our myths, fairy tales, legends and religious texts are telling us the true history and that everything that we've gotten from NASA and our school books is the fabrication. That's the real fairy tale or theory tale.
01:17:57
Stellium7
Right. um And, you know, when you look at into Norse mythology, they're talking about this stuff. Matter of fact, the, the you know, the the the different, the eschatology, the study of cataclysm, where, you know, the the Hopi Indians are talking about their red star Kachina and their blue star Kachina. And you've got the Medusa events. You've got...
01:18:19
Stellium7
some people um jason brashears calls it the the the um the phoenix event the the plasma apocalypse the electromagnetic plasma changeover event empco there's lots of different names for the you know when the shit hit the fan basically and and i don't get into dating and you know when things happened i I have no idea.
01:18:42
Stellium7
But I think that that's, you know, that's the real history. And, you know, it's just one of of many different things that we've been lied to about to to keep us, you know, just looking around and staring at the lint in our belly button or something, you know, it's like. um
01:19:02
Christian Yordanov
How big were the Titans, you reckon?
01:19:02
Stellium7
And then when it comes to. Yeah, so the Book of Enoch, which references the Titans and talks about them, you know, the the angels going to work at the trees and bringing them down so they couldn't climb them, right?
01:19:18
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
01:19:18
Stellium7
it It described the the Titans as as being 3,000 L's tall. And L's had a measurement, I don't know exactly what it was, but 3,000 of them is roughly a mile tall.
01:19:32
Stellium7
So you're talking about a creature that's a mile tall, which is very interesting. It doesn't match up with the the whole, ah you know, thousand mile long dragon in the Sahara, but maybe that was a previous era. I have no problem believing that this realm is fractal and holographic.
01:19:48
Stellium7
And that, you know, maybe we have these different different epochs and maybe we've been downsized, you know, steadily. And and maybe like even, you know, the book of the book, the Bible talks about, um I'm not sure where Adam's size is referenced, but people talk about Adam being 50 or 100 feet tall or something like that.
01:20:11
Stellium7
So if we're talking about creatures that were a mile tall, that matches up perfectly with the Maltgo mountain, because that's an elephant that is roughly three miles long. And if it were standing, it's on its stomach with its head tilted back. If it were standing, it'd be a mile tall.
01:20:27
Stellium7
So that was another penny drop for me ah when I came. People started sending me information about the book of Enoch. I had never read it. Now I've now I've read it and It's a very interesting story. I recommend people check it out.
01:20:37
Christian Yordanov
Oh.
01:20:39
Stellium7
There's an audio book that's for free on on YouTube. It's like a three hour listen. um the book of jasher as well talks about the giants and the titans and and uh i think the trees as well is the book um ezekiel in the bible talks about the great tree of lebanon some say that's a metaphor for a great king but what if it's not what if it's literal and it's actually describing the assyrian which is this great tree that
01:20:44
Christian Yordanov
okay
01:21:08
Stellium7
its canopy stretched all over the earth. Well, if you go back to the Norse mythologies with with the world tree, Yggdrasil, right?
01:21:13
Christian Yordanov
Yes. yeah yeah
01:21:16
Stellium7
That was the the axis mundi. Like that was the, you know, and so the tree is coming out. I think ultimately it might be ah metaphor for the toroid.
01:21:27
Stellium7
which I believe we're in a toroid. mean, if you ask me what shape I think the earth is, I believe that it's the the whole sphere versus flat thing is a false dichotomy and that we're actually fed those two possibilities in order to get us warring with each other about the ideas and that it's actually a synthesis of both.
01:21:37
Christian Yordanov
yes
01:21:43
Christian Yordanov
Yes.
01:21:47
Stellium7
So if you look at the magnetic field, if you look at plasma physics, if you look at cymatics, if you look at sonoluminescence, all of these are emanations of of fields that are coming from a ah central singularity point emanating outward in multiple oscillating bands.
01:22:05
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
01:22:10
Stellium7
But from that singularity coming out at the center of that is what's known as the accretion disc when you're just, when you're talking about magnetics, right?
01:22:10
Christian Yordanov
Mm-hmm.
01:22:21
Christian Yordanov
Wow.
01:22:21
Stellium7
So what you have is you have an apple shape where you have a donut. And you have an hourglass, which is the inverse space of the donut. And that central point where the hourglass, the two halves of the hourglass meet is, is the point of emanation that everything is coming from and going back to in a magnet. That's dark.
01:22:44
Stellium7
It's a, it's counter space. It's the, it's the it's probably what they're referring to when they're talking about dark. dark matter comprising the majority of the universe, because you have a field that's coming, coming from and going back to that.
01:22:58
Stellium7
So you have this and it's spiraling in and it's spiraling out, which gets into the heart and how the heart functions and the heart stones, which we we don't have time to go into now.
01:23:10
Christian Yordanov
mind-blowing
01:23:10
Stellium7
But but but so so as that that field is is happening, it's creating a disk
01:23:18
Stellium7
and And that is the plane of inertia, which is our physical matter realm.
01:23:24
Christian Yordanov
hmm
01:23:24
Stellium7
So I think we're on a disc inside of toroidal field. That's my best guess.
01:23:30
Christian Yordanov
And do you think now, since we're kind of again, having fun here, do you think on the other side, there could be also maybe some kind of civilization or civilizations?
01:23:40
Christian Yordanov
And do you think maybe there's, I know there's some hollow earth here, which, yeah.
01:23:41
Stellium7
Yeah.
01:23:43
Stellium7
Yeah, there's hollow earth theories, there's cellular cosmology where we're actually on the inside of the the sphere. That's another theory that that that we're not on the outside of it, we're on the inside.
01:23:52
Christian Yordanov
Oh, wow.
01:23:55
Stellium7
And that our stars and our and our heavenly bodies are rotating there's There's a construct at the center of our realm and and what we think is a dome or or the heavenly, you know, the celestial bodies spinning around us every night is actually a spherical shape that's that's cellular cosmology that goes back to the 1800s a guy named cyrus teed um and then cyrus teed yeah and then there was a guy who did amazing videos with incredible uh 3d graphics bringing cyrus teed's ideas to life um he calls himself he called himself lord stephen christ he's he's dead now uh kind of a real crazy character but very brilliant and um he's got a there's a video called um uh what is it um cellular the earth in a nutshell i think cellular cosmology lord stephen christ there's a lot of theories out there and i you know any like i said before anyone who's like a hundred percent married to any one of them i'm i'm i'm skeptical of because how can you know
01:24:22
Christian Yordanov
Cyrus
01:24:35
Christian Yordanov
Amazing
01:25:00
Christian Yordanov
check it out
01:25:11
Christian Yordanov
how can you know with with these five senses of a human yeah
01:25:12
Stellium7
How can you go? and and And then, oh, well, I took psychedelics and I got out of it and I saw it. Well, there's a lot of psychedelic users that think they're on a spinning ball floating around in space.
01:25:23
Stellium7
And the only evidence they have for that is coming from NASA and their trips on psychedelics. So.
01:25:28
Christian Yordanov
That's it. and and And that's the thing. like when you It's like Martin Ball, we were talking about him. He's saying a lot of it is ego projection with the most of the psychedelics, you know because they are visionary in that sense.
01:25:44
Christian Yordanov
So you you can in like we you can dream amazing things, you can visualize amazing things. who's to say that you can't come up with some cool stuff in your mind that's not actually what the reality we are finding finding ourselves in is it's not very far-fetched we do it all the time when we dream so well i think this is a good place to great conversation man like you are you are a wealth of knowledge brother so you're like i said you're welcome to come again as many times as you want and have time of course
01:26:04
Stellium7
Yeah. Yeah. Thank
01:26:19
Christian Yordanov
before we wrap of course let the listeners know all the places that they can follow you connect with you on the internet
01:26:28
Stellium7
Yeah, i'm um I'm kind of all over the place as Stellium7.
01:26:34
Stellium7
The YouTube channel is my main source of information. I'm on X and Instagram and other stuff. I mainly ah dick around on Instagram just posting memes and stupid stuff.
01:26:45
Christian Yordanov
it's good it's good no it's good it's good keep keep that up
01:26:45
Stellium7
as as i blow I blow off steam there. And then and X, I'm tempted to go off of it because it's just a cesspool of of negativity.
01:26:50
Christian Yordanov
Please keep that up.
01:26:56
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:26:56
Stellium7
So I don't even enjoy going on X.
01:26:57
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:26:58
Stellium7
I just go in to see what the crazies are saying now and again. um And then Facebook is ah basically a graveyard now. It's such a waste of time.
01:27:10
Stellium7
There's no interaction. It's all shadow banning and you know mainstream narratives. And it's just...
01:27:16
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:27:17
Stellium7
It's a waste of time. So I entertain myself on Instagram, but the and the YouTube channel, i been I haven't been active because i I was preparing for Anarcapulco and I had a lot of work leading up to it and a lot of work getting back.
01:27:30
Stellium7
And I've yet to show my face on my channel since I got back, which I i may do tomorrow if I get myself organized enough.
01:27:39
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Well, you have for for everybody interested, you have a ton of interesting stuff there.
01:27:45
Stellium7
Yeah, there's so much content there to to go into.
01:27:46
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
01:27:48
Stellium7
I mean, we've we've literally just scratched the surface. There are so many data points on the trees, the the Unveiling a Titan series. there's There's loads of videos about the heartstones, which you got to, i don't know if you got to see any of them in person.
01:28:01
Christian Yordanov
I did. Yes, yes, yes.
01:28:01
Stellium7
but Were you in the workshop?
01:28:03
Christian Yordanov
Oh, not in person.
01:28:04
Stellium7
Oh, I brought a bunch of them to the, yeah, I had a workshop, a biogeology workshop, um,
01:28:04
Christian Yordanov
No, you were showing the... Yeah.
01:28:10
Stellium7
Yeah, I coined that term just to like separate, not not to steal you know the thunder from from Roger Spur on Mud Fossil University, but mud fossils is just one of a variety of different ways that things things can petrify. And I go into those other ways in my presentations.
01:28:30
Christian Yordanov
Yeah.
01:28:30
Stellium7
So biogeology is a good umbrella term. And then mud fossils would be one, things that petrify by plasma, things that petrify by you know ah high heat, chemical petrification.
01:28:42
Stellium7
there's There's a variety of different ways. So that's why I coined the term biogeology.
01:28:45
Christian Yordanov
Yeah. Did you petrify a bottle? Did you petrify a bottle and post on it?
01:28:49
Stellium7
No, I just posted something that I saw.
01:28:51
Christian Yordanov
Ah, okay. so
01:28:52
Stellium7
yeah you can, you like there's high mineral content waters will encase things in in mineral and then eventually petrify those.
01:28:53
Christian Yordanov
Okay.
01:29:01
Stellium7
There's so many, so many examples of anomalous petrification that I give in my presentation. So The live streams I cover, you know, I've done multiple two, three, even four hour live streams, lots of interviews on my channel, um the unveiling of Titan series.
01:29:07
Christian Yordanov
Yeah
01:29:17
Stellium7
And then for the trees, there's so much great info. And I've got i've got a a dozen or more little short clips for people who are short on time. if you You have to scroll down to find them, but two or three minute clips. I think I have a playlist for the great trees.
01:29:32
Stellium7
um and that's just like the highlights from my trip when i was traveling with hangman um if you doubt if you're doubting it the stuff i'm talking about check it out look at it don't
01:29:38
Christian Yordanov
Amazing.
01:29:42
Christian Yordanov
Get into it. Like, like like ah what was the guy? well Eddie Bravo says, hey, look into it, man. just
01:29:48
Stellium7
yeah look into it that's look into it yeah
01:29:48
Christian Yordanov
Just look into it.
01:29:52
Christian Yordanov
ah Just look into it. Mike, again, brother, thank you so much. And thank you for being so generous with the time. and I know it's pretty late there in Spain.
01:30:00
Stellium7
My pleasure.
01:30:00
Christian Yordanov
Thank you.
01:30:01
Stellium7
It's not that late. It's only 9.30. Yeah, it's great.
01:30:06
Christian Yordanov
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