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Remote Viewing, MK-Ultra, and Humanity's Precarious Future w/ Ryder Lee of Raised by Giants
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Today I have the pleasure of sharing with you my recent conversation with Ryder Lee, host of the Raised by Giants podcast (one of my favourites). We cover several topics that I think you will find interesting, though we barely scratch the surface on them. These include remote viewing (also known as non-local perception), the MK-Ultra mind control experiments, mass mind control through traumatic events, and of course we dive into what's in store for humanity if we continue on the current trajetory of ignorance and apathy. For deeper analysis I would encourage you to check out Raised by Giants.
About Ryder's podcast, Raised by Giants:
Raised By Giants talks all things spirituality with people from all backgrounds to bring you different perspectives of whats going on in the world on an individual and collective level; sharing insight, knowledge and wisdom from their personal experiences. We're in a spiritual war right now on the planet and we can't solve the problems we face today with worldly solutions.
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Transcript
Introduction and Interview with Ryder Lee
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Okay, today on Connecting Minds podcast, I have the pleasure of interviewing Ryder Lee. He's the host of the awesome podcast Raised by Giants, which provides a platform from which philosophers, researchers, spiritual teachers, authors, contactees, experiencers, channelers,
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and UFO researchers can come together and communicate their studies, observations, thoughts, ideas, reflections and research, infusing them into common everyday knowledge with new understandings of life and the universe.
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of Raised by Giants will be digging deep into these topics, interviewing and hosting an ever-growing number of people, searching for a deeper understanding and truth. And that is really, really true because I find myself listening and re-listening to some of the interviews on your podcast writer.
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Uh, for example, today, this week I've been re-listening to all the interviews with Shane Sedore. Like I really find that dude fascinating. But anyway, welcome to the show, bro. Thank you so much for coming on. Thanks so much, my friend. I appreciate you. I'm glad we finally got to do this. We did a few trial runs. I'm looking at those as a trial runs and now we're finally here and we get to speak. So thanks for inviting me. I appreciate you. Absolutely, bro. Um, I think.
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Let's start with your story. It's quite interesting. I think it's worth spending some time just to give the listeners a little bit of your background and maybe you can infuse into that story how you got to researching the topics that your podcast
Early Experiences and Psychic Abilities
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is about. Maybe give the listeners a little bit of a taster for what all your research is all about, please.
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Well, ever since I can remember, I questioned this reality and this construct that we were in and I was like, what are we doing here? What am I doing here? What's, what's going on? Everything seemed really weird. Like everyone was super fake and no one could answer any of my questions, you know, like everybody else was in the same boat that I was, you know, everyone else was thinking, Oh, well, what's happening here? Why are we here? What are we doing? You know, and I would ask people, you know, just simple questions about our reality and they,
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not even about our reality, just like social issues, just how you're supposed to act, what you're supposed to do. And they didn't have adequate answers for my questions. And this was when I was really young, like four or five, six years old. And it kind of evolved. And when I was really young, I would see translucent beans come out of my walls at night and surround me
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At the most I would see is like eight of them at a time and I told my parents about it and my parents were like, oh, well, blah, blah, blah. Some probably something wrong with you. So they took me to an eye doctor. The eye doctor was actually really cool. The eye doctor was kind of like, yeah, maybe he's just kind of.
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You know has a different kind of vision or whatever and you gave me this little flash card with these little Bulls eyes on and Bulls eyes within Bulls eyes was like circles within circles within circles And he was a come back to me when you can make that circle pop up off of the flash card and later on I realized that that was my third eye like When you're able to see things in a different kind of way, that's like your third eye So I discovered it, you know, I kind of I
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came into this reality with my third eye open, and that's why I was able to perceive these translucent beings coming out of the wall. Now, they never did anything to me. They never touched me. They never hurt me or anything. They would just get really close to me. So I felt like it was some kind of observation. They were just trying to observe me in some sort of way. So then I stopped talking about that because I didn't want to get
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I was smart enough not to get involved with the doctors. And because we know where all that leads, it leads to medication, it leads to some sort of, you know, psych ward or some kind of nonsense. Later on in your life, you know, if you keep talking about it, so I stopped talking about it, but then some other things started popping up, I would get
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like psychic like knowings whenever I was a child and none of this is new. Like I feel like that, you know, every child has these kinds of abilities, right? It's nothing special toward me. I wasn't special at all. I just think that some people can tap into them more and understand what's going on.
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better and some can't. Some people see demons and crazy ghosts and disincarnated spirits and there being a medium later on in life and some people don't. But I think that we all have that ability. So I'm not special in that regard. So I would get some psychic intuitive kind of
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things growing up, I would be able to predict things that were going to happen before they would happen. Now, this wasn't anything big. It was just like things going on in my personal life. It wasn't any like events or anything. It wasn't like, you know, 9-11 is going to happen on nothing like that. It was just, you know, simple, small things like I would be able to know who was coming to the door without looking to see who was at the door. I would be able to predict the next song that was going to come on to the radio before that song came on.
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And I had a really good track record with that. Like I was like hitting it right off and it got to the point where my mom wouldn't even listen to the radio when we were in the car. She would just turn it off completely, you know, cause it kind of freaked her out. And I understand that I was from a very small town, you know, a very, you know, conservative Christian town, which there's nothing wrong with being a conservative, but that's just the town that I was in, you know, so you couldn't really talk about these things. So later on.
Influences and Beliefs: Zeitgeist and Infinite Data Field
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That kind of shut down within me because of the social aspect of it. And then when I was around 13 or so, I watched the film Zeitgeist in 2008. That really answered a lot of my questions because I was kind of raised Christian. Well, I wasn't raised Christian. I decided to go down the Christian route because my mom
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She was an atheist, she was a self-proclaimed atheist, and she kept stating over and over again that she didn't believe in anything, and I wanted to be rebellious toward her, so I got involved in the church and all that. Just despite her to be a rebel, you know? Everyone does that with their hands. So I watched the film Zeitgeist, and that really just kind of blew me wide open, you know, the beginning of that film.
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you know, talks about religion and how religion is basically a bunch of nonsense and that there were several characters throughout mythology that had the exact same background as Jesus. He was born of a virgin birth, had 12 followers, you know, and all that performed miracles. There are several of those previous religions before Christianity ever became a religion that had that exact same characteristics of Jesus. So I'm like, okay, well, this makes much more sense now.
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I'm spinning the wheels and then the second part was about 9-11. Now 9-11 was supposed inside job, which that made a lot of sense to me too. And then the third part was about the monetary system and how we're just playing with paper money. The money isn't real because there is no gold backing it.
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there is no gold in the Federal Reserve in the United States anymore. So it's just paper monopoly money. So that started my wheels turning and then I kind of let that go for a little bit but it was always in the back of my head and then around around 16 or 17 I would lay down in my bed at night and then I would just get all kinds of information just
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flooding into me and about our reality, how everything is working, that there's other dimensions, that there's different parallel timelines. And mind you, I wasn't listening to any of this stuff. It was just coming to me from someplace else. I think maybe an infinite data field because I believe that we're constantly surrounded by information that's just in the ether.
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all around us all the time, not just through the computer or telephones or the news or TV or any of that. I think that there's an infinite data field that's around us that if we can tap into, it actually holds and stores all of the information.
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So I was getting that and I was trying to also explain that and you know, people weren't getting it. They weren't understanding me because it was, you know, kind of advanced. It was, you know, for them at least it was advanced for them at that time. Because again, there were Christians, there's more churches in my town than there was anything else, right? Churches, banks, and pizza places. That's all the town basically was.
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So I was trying to explain this to people. I'm doing little diagrams. I'm trying to show people that we're in a 3D reality. And there's the 4D, the 5D, the 6D, 7D. And it's all stacked on top of each other. And I just thought that I was weird and crazy. So then I shut that down. So then I didn't have an outlet to talk to anybody about. And then all the information just kind of collapsed in upon itself. Because if you don't have
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human connection. If you don't have people to talk to about these things, especially in this community, if you don't have that outlet to be able to speak about things that your thoughts and your ideas and your beliefs, then it just implodes upon itself. You don't have a healthy outlet to get those things out onto, right?
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So it all kind of implode. And then I went down kind of a dark path with with drugs and stuff. I got in the drugs heavy there for a while, because I was just trying to shut it down. You know, I thought that something was wrong with me. So I just wanted it to kind of go away.
The Journey to Podcasting and Exploring Remote Viewing
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Now that something was wrong with my brain, that that I was weird, that I was crazy. So then I got out of that. And I got clean and sober. I've been clean and sober now for three years. And
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Then I was like, okay, well, let's just start this podcast. Let's do this thing because I've collected a lot of knowledge over the years. I started listening to other people in the community and I'm like, hey, I could be doing this just as good as any of these other hosts and any of these other people that have these individuals on the talk and have expanding conversations.
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thought provoking ideas and just expanding your awareness, right? Totally. So that's really where where it started and started out with just me interviewing my friends. You know, I just in the first, like, I don't know, 10 videos or maybe five or at least the first couple were all from people that I knew personally, like my friend and my friend Scott, Davajis, his wife,
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You know, it was people that I knew personally that I'd met and because they were into spiritual ideas and spiritual thought forms and I needed to start somewhere. So that's where it started and then it just kind of evolved into things that I was interested in. And now it's just become to be, you know, something different to where
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I because I study each individual that I bring on my show like I do a lot of research and a lot of study to be able to ask them thought-provoking questions about their work right because I want to be different and ask them because a lot of people that I interview has been interviewed several times right and I need to be asking questions that they possibly have never gotten before so I have to research them
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and dig down deep into their work. And if they have any books, I try and read their books, at least purchase one of their books to read through it and dig down deep. And it's just become a
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integral part of my life. Another thing is the honor and integrity of the community. I'm not going to bring anybody on that I think is full of crap. A lot of other podcasters and people in the community
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Do you know and I don't really fault them for that. They can you know, do whatever they want They want to put on information, you know, that's fine But I'm not going to bring on anybody that I think is just spewing a bunch of nonsense So if you're watching my show then you know that even if some of their claims and their thoughts and ideas can't be proven I personally believe that
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uh, they are legit and they're speaking some form of truth. So yeah, sure. Yeah. I've listened, I'll be honest. I've listened to some of your guests and for me, some of the stuff is a little bit too far fetched, but I personally consider myself an actual open-minded person. A lot of people say they're open-minded and this is how I, I often screen people before I
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give them some of the stuff that I am into, like let's say share one of your podcast episodes. I'll ask someone, are you open-minded? Are you truly open-minded? And they'll be like, yes, check this out. Tell me what you think. And then I'll throw like some crazy, you know, quote unquote, crazy thing at them. And they're like, oh, that's bullshit. You know, without even listening to it, I'm like, oh, you're not open-minded.
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I have entertained stuff that I fully thought was batshit crazy. I've entertained it. For example, I'm not saying I used to think remote viewing is bullshit.
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I always thought a lot of these extra sensory perception things, a lot of it I think is just people's own imagination. But then I listen, I forgot the name of the researcher that you've interviewed on your podcast about non-local perception or remote viewing. Stephen Schwartz? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have his website to visit on my to-do list.
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The way he talks about how he conducts his research, I'm like, Jesus, this is super fucking credible. And now I'm like, okay, so this is a true phenomenon. Actually, can you give the listeners a little bit of an intro to what is remote viewing and what does Mr. Schwartz's research show about it? It is an actual real thing.
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Yes, it is. And what I say to people like yourself that might not believe in it, might not believe in psychic phenomenon or remote viewing or seeing things that isn't immediately in their surroundings,
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is that you don't have to believe it, right? But the government believed it. The DIA believed it. The CIA believed it. The Air Force believed it.
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They were running programs for almost 20 years studying psychic abilities, remote viewing, and ESP. And also Stanford Research Institute. Stanford Research Institute, SRI, separated from Stanford in 1970 and then became known as Stanford Research Institute International, SRI International in 1973.
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And that's when it became funded by the CIA through Sidney Gottlieb. But that's not the only thing. Back in the early 50s during the MKUltra programs that Sidney Gottlieb was running, there were four or five sub-projects of the MKUltra that were also studying psychic phenomenon, ESP, telekinesis, and channeling. So the CIA was funding
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and doing psychic research back during the MK Altra. The MK Altra is very provable. You can look up MK Altra, you can dig through all those declassified, 149 declassified documents of MK Altra, and you'll learn a lot of stuff, right? People just talk about MK Altra and put a blanket on it, but I've actually read all of the transcripts and all the declassified documents. I know exactly what they were doing.
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And so the CIA began funding SRI International in 1973. And then Army Intelligence started up their program in 1975. And then it was transferred to the DIA in 1979. It became an official special access program.
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And then that program ran all the way until 95 until it was supposed to be given back to the CIA. But the CIA then shut it down and said that no valuable intelligence data was ever collected from the program, which is a complete boldface lie. That's a huge lie. And I've interviewed
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uh, quite a few people from the Stargate project, which that wasn't the original name for it. It went by many other code names like Sun Street, Gondola wish, uh, a center lane. And there was a bunch of different code names for it. Right. And they, and Dell graph decided on, uh, the Stargate project in 93, I believe.
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And then that created a bunch of confusion because then people thought that they were actually talking about a real Stargate that you could open, right? But it has nothing to do with that. Stargate was just a codename created for the program to study psychics and remote viewing. And they were doing it to collect
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intelligence information on foreign assessments, and sometimes a few special cases that were doing it within the United States as well. Now, as far as what remote viewing is, this is my personal opinion on what I think remote viewing is and how it works. Now, there's going to be people that disagree with me. There's going to be people that say that it's completely different, right? But this is just my personal thoughts and my ideas and my beliefs. I think that
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Remote viewing is a separation of consciousness from the body. And this is why I believe that a lot of these remote viewers now, not the trained remote viewers, this is a difference here. You can be trained to remote view and you can do it pretty well. It's a proven thing that you can do it pretty well.
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the people that just developed these abilities and there wasn't any protocol, there wasn't any manual of telling them how to remove you the step-by-step process in order to be trained, those people, a good 90 to 95% of them had some sort of near-death experience or out-of-body experience.
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And I personally believe that them having that near-death experience or that out-of-body experience unlock that ability in order for them to be able to do. And I think that that's what's going on. You're able to separate your consciousness from your physical body, and then you can take that consciousness out of your body and then see something that is not within your local perception.
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You can take that consciousness out to anywhere on the planet and in some cases off the planet. Right, right. There's been people that's remote viewed the moon, they've remote view Jupiter, they've remote viewed Mars.
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all that. So I don't think that there's a limit to how far your consciousness can stretch out and you can see things that are happening here now in the past or in a lot of cases in the future. And I think that that's a very
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integral part of this is the separation of consciousness from the body and I believe that that's how It was unlocked in these psychics and remote viewers in the beginning now again there's a difference between that and then being trained to do it without any out-of-body or Near-death experience but from my research the people like
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in Goswan, which developed a protocol that trained a lot of the army intelligence people and the people in the DIA in the actual Stargate project. He had an out of body experience whenever he was younger, right? Because he was being bullied and he would be outside of his body a lot. And then there's other people that's had near-death experience. Dr. David Morehouse, which was a part of the Stargate project had a near-death experience.
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Joe McMonocle also had a near-death experience that was a part of the project, so it's not a blanketed thing. You don't have to have a near-death experience or an out-of-body experience to be able to remove you, but I think in the beginning for those people that weren't trained to do it, that's how it was unlocked.
00:22:04
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Very interesting, bro. And also what you were saying earlier, I also believe there is a field or multiple fields that are all around us and inside us that contain, you know, it's like a reality is holographic per se. So maybe one way is to get
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out of the body. Maybe another way is to basically not necessarily shut down the physical senses, but either damp them down and tune into the other senses that tap into the field, right? Maybe that's another way that it could be done.
Researching Out-of-Body Experiences and Consciousness
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But I don't know, first of all, would you develop that further, maybe, that thought? Well, the Monroe Institute also
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It's connected here between the DIA, Army Intelligence, and CIA. They were also studying a way to get outside of your body. That's what the Monroe Institute was doing. They were trying to hemisync the brain to induce an out-of-body astral experience. And the CIA actually
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Well, Army Intelligence and the CIA both wrote reports on the Monroe Institute and gave them some kind of fee, like some kind of payment to be able to study these out-of-body experiences. So they also thought that the out-of-body and possibly near-death, because I think that they're very similar. Near-death experience and out-of-body experience, very similar. One, you're not
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you don't have a near-death experience, but you're still outside of your body, right? You should still see your stuff. So I believe that they thought that there was a connection there too, and I actually have those reports in the studies and the fines that they did on the Monroe Institute. Both of them did Army Intelligence and the CIA both investigated the Monroe Institute into these out-of-body experiences.
00:24:14
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And it's said that there were these tapes that had these frequencies on them that you would put headphones in and then it would hemisync your brain in order to make you calm, make you relaxed and possibly induce an out-of-body experience. And the people at the Stargate program apparently had access to these tapes as well. So there's a huge connection there. Now to your question,
00:24:40
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I think it's possible that they could be perceiving something that is
00:24:50
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not really seeable from within themselves because the Bible talks about the heaven is within. You have to go within yourself now. The Bible is an allegorical and metaphorical and astrological text. It's not a historical text. I don't believe that any of their religions are
00:25:12
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historical tax. They're written allegorically and metaphorically in order for us to figure out and all we've done is we have taken them to be literal. That's our mistake. They're not literal tax, they're encoded. So in order to go within, and we've been so programmed to think of
00:25:33
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you know, outer space as being outer space, right? Whenever you hear anybody talking, whenever you hear NASA or any of these space agencies or the military or anyone talk about space, that's all that they say. They're like, it's space, you know? And then we've been programmed to think that they're talking about outer space, when the definition of space can be anything.
00:25:54
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It could be extra space in your house. It could be the ocean. That's extra space. It could be the space that we're creating right now on this zoom call with you, you know, or the space could be in your head, in your mind. There's extra space floating around in there. So I think it's important to explore that space and go within yourself because I believe that that's where all the answers lie is within. And whenever you can,
00:26:24
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shut your mind down for a little while and get all those thoughts out of your mind, you can unlock a great human potential and you would have the access to all of this information that's just been floating around. And I think that because it's proven that water has memory and we're a water-based planet, we're actually mostly made up of water, us as humans, we're made up of water. And the water
00:26:52
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holds the memory. And also the Bible talks about the waters being separated, the waters above and the waters below being separated. So outer space is water as well. Your water, we're on a water planet. Water is the memory. Water is what's holding the memory in this infinite data field of knowledge. So how would you pollute that memory? You would
00:27:16
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Pollute the water right you make it to where you're distorting the infinite data field of information that's around each and every individual and cutting our antenna and cutting our connection to that information is making us very susceptible and controllable here in this reality
00:27:38
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bro. Like you just hit all my G spots like the last minute. Oh man, I don't know. Fuck. Like a million things are coursing through my head. Actually today I got delivered a reverse osmosis system. So I've been drinking distilled water for maybe seven, eight months now, bro. And I have a bio geometry
00:28:04
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clearing tray, which looks something like this, you know it, right? That's like to charge my bio pen by the geometry pendant and my ring and my other bits and pieces. So I have that underneath and this is for my water distiller. So as the water drips into the water distiller, I have a clear quartz crystal
00:28:22
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and it drips in there to charge it with that kind of energy. And next to my water distiller, my wife prefers just a filtered big Berkey water, so I have a clear crystal in the top chamber, in the bottom chamber. It's like...
00:28:39
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When you drink pristinely clear water, but that's been charged with some type of energy, it has a different charge as opposed to when it has various minerals in it. When it's been through the right angles of the sewers and these pipes, that energy of the water, like the Masaru and Moto, the Japanese dude that was taking all the pictures of water,
00:29:06
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Yes. Totally, dude. Totally.
Challenging Mainstream Narratives: Space and MKUltra
00:29:10
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A million things, dude, you said just hit all the spots. For example, what you say about the Bible being an astro-theological thing. They were talking about the stars of Joseph, Mary, all these things. Jesus. If you replace Jesus or Christ or whatever with son as in solar. That's your end, yeah.
00:29:35
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The Bible will actually make a lot more sense if you read it literally, if you were to read it literally, which is, of course, it's a poetry. It's not meant to be taken literally. But just one final thought, but I want to get into MK outro because like I know you've read all the declassified documents and it's fascinating that research that you've done. But one other thing, right? There was another guy I follow.
00:29:58
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And he was talking, this was only like a wild speculative theory that he was putting. The channel is called, I think, Space Busters or something like that. I don't know if you've heard of the guy. And he was talking about if you go and do a Google search for whatever, and it tells you how many results you get,
00:30:18
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And it tells you it came back in like one second, right? So he starts going around, you know, looking at the undersea cables and all this stuff and how this information gets relayed through all the switches and routers and all that good stuff.
00:30:33
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it cannot possibly take one second to get processed through all that hardware. Never mind the fact that it's going to run through a bunch of cables and stuff like that, right? There's a lot of bottlenecks. So he was saying, look at how we are calling cabled internet. It's ethernet, right? The ether used to be the fifth element. So you have Earth,
00:31:00
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water, wind, and air, fire, earth, water, air, wind, and fire. And ether was the fifth element. And when you look at a pentagram, like a normal pentagram with the pointer, the pentagram has all, that's the kind of the symbolizing before the Satanists inverted it, obviously, symbolizing the five elements. So they have taken away
00:31:28
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in the last, however, hundred years, they have taken away the ether, right? And so it's kind of analogous. It's an analogy for, you know, you do a Google search and is it, is it, are they have, is the technology so advanced that you're tapping into the ether and that information is being relayed back to your phone or computer
00:31:54
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almost instantaneously and all the hardware in between is just inserted there for data harvesting and monitoring and just the infrastructure for the transhumanist agenda. Is it? I don't know.
00:32:09
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fun things to ponder about in the middle of the night if you can't sleep. I think that that's a high possibility. I think you just, you hit the nail on the head and people don't realize that that's where we get our internet from is from giant C cables. C cables. Right. And that's where most of the data is coming from is giant C cables. And also another thing is
00:32:35
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that there is this project by nasa called the loon project where where they'll put up high altitude uh weather balloons in the sky in order to beam down internet to places that don't have internet right so it's really it's very very interesting yeah you can look that up it's called the loon project loo in project yeah and you can study and look into that and
00:33:05
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It's really because we've been kind of programmed to believe that we're getting internet from satellites in the sky. That's not where it's coming from. It's coming from underground sea cables and weather balloons that NASA is putting up in low Earth orbit.
00:33:23
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It's like I tell some of my friends make fun of me because I've done a lot of conspiracy research and I'm always bursting their bubbles. So I'm like, it's like, guys, listen, guys. And I will take on a bunch of them. I don't care how drunk they are or whatever. I will take on a bunch of people. I will debate and argue. I don't care. And I'm like, guys, okay, explain this to me.
00:33:47
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GPS satellites. I'm like satellites are bullshit. It's all weather balloons. NASA is the biggest buyer of helium or one of the biggest buyers of helium in the world. So explain this to me, right? So internet is pristine in the city. But when I go up in the mountains, I'm closer to the satellites. Where the hell does my connection go?
00:34:11
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And then I'm like, OK, so Nixon Nixon could talk to the guys on the moon like we're having a conversation here. But when I'm in the crapper, I can't even get a good signal when my mom's calling me. You know what I mean? Explain that shit to me that doesn't compute there. You know, space is fake, bro. Look, anyone like here's the thing, right? I've I've highly evolved.
00:34:33
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I don't want to say such big things, but I've evolved my personal understanding of what the world is that we live in. It's not a flat plane like they say. I believe it's one dimensional of an argument, but it's most certainly not a spinning ball in a solar system, in a galaxy, in a universe created by a Big Bang. That's Big Bang theory created by a fucking priest.
00:35:02
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How scientific is that, right? The more I get into it, it seems to be could be some type of mental projection, could be some type of to roll the field. Like, you know, there's a lot of like, if you look into the sacred text and stuff like that, it could be so, you know, it could be like,
00:35:21
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The earth could be hollow like I'm open to all these theories, but I had Chris Matthew on the podcast Last week and of course I asked him and I do want to ask you before we but we do want to get to MK ultra But just what is your kind of latest? sort of View on what is the world that we live in? What is this reality? I love to ask that question It's a really large question
00:35:51
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I don't necessarily believe that space is fake. I just don't think that space works and operates like the way that we've been led to believe that it does. I don't think that rockets can
00:36:07
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go outside of low earth orbit. I don't think they can break through that because if there's no oxygen and there's no gravity in space, what is those rockets pushing off of to be able to move forward? It makes zero sense. I think that that's what they found out in the early 60s with the Gemini and
00:36:32
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That other test flight that that the Air Force was doing with NASA and because they did a bunch of those test flights before They went to the moon and they never went out of low earth orbit Right because I think that they found out right then and there that they can't that it's impossible So they I believe that the moon landing footage was faked and I believe that we possibly
00:37:03
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went there in a more highly advanced craft that we were building under the guise of a rocket going to the moon and JFK was trying to kind of force their hand and revealing that technology in 1961 and 1962 whenever he was making those statements to the Congress and then later on at Rice Stadium saying that we should
00:37:29
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take our efforts toward getting to the moon by the end of the decade. I believe that he was trying to force their hand because he knew that we couldn't get there in standard rocketry. So he was like, OK, well, I'm going to move this forward really quickly so that they will be forced to reveal a new technology or a new craft that would take us to the moon. But he ended up being assassinated and killed anyway, which is then echoed by James Forrest all
00:37:59
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which was the very first Secretary of Defense after World War II. There's proof that him and JFK both went to Germany after the war and seeing
00:38:10
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some highly advanced technology that the Germans were working on, some kind of anti-gravity craft. And then when they came back to the United States, JFK ran for Senate, and then forestall became very first Secretary of Defense. And that's when MJ-12 was born, which MJ-12 is supposedly a group that was trying to develop this technology and create it.
00:38:36
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And forestall wanted to reveal the technology to the public because he knew that it would be beneficial And that's when uh, he was kind of let go of his position and they made him out to be crazy and then he uh
00:38:51
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And he supposedly committed suicide out of a very tall building. I think the 16th or 17th story building of Bethesda Naval Hospital, he supposedly fell out of the building. So that story correlates to what JFK was trying to do. I think JFK was
00:39:10
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Attempting to do it more covertly and do it internally not out in the open He didn't you know go to people and be like hey like let's reveal this technology Let's reveal this anti-gravity craft that we've been developing for a long time since the since the you know, the 50s, right and But they ended up killing him anyway, just like it's supposed that they killed James Forrest all as well and
00:39:37
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You know, I have no doubt that we have advanced technology of that sort. But I don't believe, it's like I was talking to my chiropractor today. I see him every week and I'm constantly like filling his head with crazy shit, you know? I should be paying him extra for that. But anyway, he's like today, he's like, there's gonna be a green comet today. So I started like inquiring, oh, when do you know? Like, would you know what the name of it?
00:40:07
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And he's like, I don't know why it's green. Like, do you think it's a metal in it or something? I'm like, actually, I don't think comets are physical phenomena. So he's like, what? Like, I don't like they're not rock. They're not metal. I don't believe so. In fact,
00:40:20
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So my point there was I don't have any doubt that we have this technology, this amazing technology. I just don't think that the moon is a physical object. If you look at the moon in the day,
00:40:36
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The light spots are light in color, and if you look at it at night, the kind of the valleys or whatever you want to call them,
00:40:51
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They're dark. It's basically the background behind it. It's kind of translucent, almost see-through parts of it, a see-through. There's a scientist back in the 60s. You could still probably get this short clip on YouTube, unless it's been censored.
00:41:12
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They were asking this pretty eminent scientist, they're like, what do you think of these guys? They're planning to go to the moon by the end of the decade. He's like, well, they will never go to the moon because the moon is not a physical thing. It's made of plasma.
00:41:27
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So, and some guys have actually photographed a star behind the moon, that should be behind the moon. And if you go on a cloudy night, the moon, it looks almost local in the world because it illuminates only the little clouds around it. It doesn't illuminate like a massive sort of thing. So there's a million things, you know, you could go into of why
00:41:53
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the moon is actually not a physical object. So I have no doubt that there could be, I actually have more, I believe that it's more possible to travel to other dimensions, or there's advanced or semi-advanced or technologically advanced beings in the core of the earth or like in deep underground of the earth, then we have the ability to go to the moon. I believe other
00:42:20
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supposedly more far-fetched theories more because it just when you look at the evidence the physics just don't and the fact that the moon never rotates and you always see it from the same angle like there's a million things you could go into right I so anyway I don't want to belabor that point
00:42:39
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I'd like to get into your research into MK Ultra. Now, I know from listening to your podcast and you mentioned as well that you've read all of the 149 declassified documents, transcripts.
00:42:55
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For the listeners, would you please just give them a little bit of a rundown? What were the MK Ultra experiments and what sort of... There's like several different themes or research areas that they covered. Could you maybe give us a little bit of a rundown there, bro?
00:43:16
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So basically, going through all these documents, I found out that they were using, in almost every one of them, that they were doing an experiment on an individual. They were using some form of LSD, some form of hallucinogenic mushrooms. And also, what I discovered is that the antidepressants, anti-anxiety medications,
00:43:46
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amphetamine all came out of these programs too. They were all created inside of these MKUltra programs and then they were later on given to the public to be on. And Sydney Gottlieb had a brother
00:44:03
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I think it's David Gottlieb, not for sure on his first name, I would have to look it up, but he was a plant biologist. My personal thoughts on it was it's just a coincidence that he has a brother that's a plant biologist that can create all of these different concoctions and mushrooms.
00:44:23
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LSD and doing all this kind of stuff, right? Yeah. And there's no proof of that, of course, but that's just my personal speculation on it that, you know, it can't just be a coincidence that Cindy Gottlieb has a brother that's a plant biologist and they're doing all these experimentations on LSD and mushrooms and all these different medicine concoctions. Yeah. Right. So
00:44:45
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Also, like I mentioned before, they were also studying ESP abilities, psychic abilities, remote viewing within the projects. There were other sub-projects that were leasing out their projects to hospitals. There was a hospital in Washington, DC, where they opened up a completely new wing for MKUltra programs. So they were leasing out a lot of these programs to
00:45:12
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private companies. So that way, they didn't have to document exactly what they were doing in these other programs, right? But they do this thing that which is very fascinating is it's basically like clean slating people, right? It's called D patterning, where they will remove
00:45:40
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normal thinking patterns within a human being though remove common sense, critical thinking, uh, and normal thinking thoughts that you would have every day. It's basically like clean slating your consciousness to make you very susceptible. That's done through, uh, through trauma.
00:46:02
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through well psychic driving is the the next technique that they would do but it would be you know starving people it would be you know locking them inside of a room for a very long period of time you know to rid people of their normal thoughts and their normal thinking it's basically a disrupting of the consciousness and then they do another thing that's called psychic driving which psychic driving the official
00:46:32
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statement of what psyche driving is, is after the de-patterning, after you've been drugged, they come in and they will throw down a looped audio message. Now, this is my personal thoughts in here. This isn't confirmed by the documents, but
00:46:54
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It's not just a looped audio message. They could be doing it with 100 different ways, 100 different techniques. They could be taking in a TV or a big screen, a big projector.
00:47:07
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And after you've had your common sense, critical thinking and everything removed from your, uh, your consciousness, and then you've been drugged with LSD or mushrooms or something, and then you have a big screen in front of you or an audio loop message or some kind of headset, uh, some kind of VR headset, possibly on top of your head, then you're going to be susceptible and you're going to believe whatever is on that projector or that looped audio message or whatever's on that VR TV screen.
00:47:37
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And we see proof of that in our reality right now. I mean, that's the way that we are programmed. We're programmed through the news. We're programmed through TV. We're programmed through TV shows, movies, and all that. And it affects our subconscious. Whenever you hear something over and over and over and over again, you don't even have to be drugged.
00:48:04
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You tend to believe it. It's proven through 2020. They got the entire world to do that at the exact same time, magically. But also drugs are involved because there's 90% of, I don't know about other countries, but 90% of the US population is on some sort of pharmaceutical medication, which all of those came
00:48:32
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out of the MK Electric program. So it's proofing the result. That's exactly what they're doing now in this reality. They're de-patterning people through a traumatic event that they blast everywhere. They're repeating that message over and over and over again to get you to believe in it. And then on top of that, you're being drugged by this pharmaceutical industry.
00:48:58
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It's unbelievable when you go back and you read through these documents and then you correlate and you see what's happening in our reality right now. It's the exact same thing. And then I started digging into the Stargate Project, which we've already covered because there was a lot of people
00:49:23
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in the community that we're seeing that it's an actual program to open up portals and Stargates and all that. And I've read through those declassified, well, the ones that I can find of, I'm getting more sent to me here soon on the Stargate Project, all of the declassified documents, all of Ego Swan's personal journals and some of the Monroe Institute's stuff as well.
00:49:49
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So and my investigation into that and interviewing all the people, you know, it's a it's a psychic study. It's a psychic phenomenon study. The Army Intelligence, the TIA, the Air Force, CIA was all in the doing and they ran that program for almost 20 years. Yeah. And so really where it all stemmed from was
00:50:11
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trying to debunk these secret space program and these super soldier people that are telling these crazy wild wack yadoo stories about being in space and fighting aliens for 20 years and then being age regressed back in time and to the very point that they were taking and then they unlock these memories later on in their life.
00:50:33
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That's where all this came from. And those people are a giant, huge conspiracy burrito. That's what I've been calling it, because it has everything in their story. It has it all. It has MK Ultra. It has Psychics. It has the Stargate Project. It's got looking glass technology. It's got fighting aliens in space. It's got highly advanced interdimensional travel ships. It's got time travel. It's got ETs, other planets, the moon.
00:51:02
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You know, and then, uh, yeah. So that's where it really started for me. I was trying to figure out if any part of their story was real and what they talk about, you know, and that's when I started digging into the MK ultra programs. And I'm realizing that if you're D patterned, you're drugged, you're psychically driven, which is what they do to us all every single day, everyone in the population, you can be led to believe whatever they want you to believe.
00:51:32
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And I just mentioned the Looking Glass technology. I don't know if you've ever heard of Looking Glass, but it's something that's been perpetuated in this community. They say that the government has created this technology to be able to look forward in time and then look backward in time to see if events are going to happen, if they're going to play out the way that they want them to. That's not at all what it is. Looking Glass is an actual Air Force operation
00:52:02
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in space to arm space with the ability to launch nukes from space. It was created in 1972, well, 1962. Now, so they they've taken real parts of story, well, at least titles of real things
00:52:26
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that has happened, real operations, and they've mixed it with crazy fairy tale bull crap nonsense. And that's what I was really trying to expose and dig deep into the things that they're talking about because people don't do that, right? They don't research what people are talking about.
00:52:49
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They just expect people to know. And unfortunately, that's not the way that it is because a lot of people lack integrity and honor in the community. And so when someone says something, they don't get on Google and research it for themselves. So then they're just left to believe in whatever that these people are talking about. And I understand that that's a really
00:53:12
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a big thing to have to do, right? You don't want to have to sit down here and even research everything that me and you have talked about this entire time. But what I would like to see people do is to just research one thing. One thing that I've talked about or that you've talked about in the show so far
00:53:34
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go and look into it. Yeah, for sure. I'm not trying to fool anybody with crazy wild experiences and stories, right? Now,
00:53:47
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When I do have a theory or a thought, I will say, this is my personal thought. This is my personal belief. I just don't compound my own personal thoughts and my ideas and my beliefs onto already established real things.
00:54:06
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If there's proof for something, I'll just flat out say it and I'll make it as a statement. But if there's no proof for it, and it's a part of my thoughts, ideas, and beliefs, I will say before I say it, and you watch back in this interview, you'll see that every time that I'm talking about my personal thoughts, ideas, or beliefs, I state it before I say it.
00:54:27
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I remember. I like that. That's integrity, you know? I like that. So they were doing the, so they started off on an individual basis with these MKUltra experiments and they got
Programming Society: From 9/11 to COVID
00:54:46
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good at it. They got better at it. And they started doing it on a mass scale, right?
00:54:52
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Yes. So things like 9-11 terrorist attack, uh, you know, uh, terrorist attacks, school shootings, uh, COVID-19 stuff. These are all kind of the, it's like the one two. So you hit them with the trauma and then the two is the some type of change in behavior, right? Is that how it,
00:55:22
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That's exactly how it works. That's what all of those events are about. I mean, you can go back even further. You can go back and look at Pearl Harbor. Yeah. Traumatic event. You can look at the Titanic. Yeah. Traumatic event. JFK. Traumatic event. 9-11. Traumatic event. You know, COVID-19. That's a traumatic event, right? And it disrupts people's lives.
00:55:50
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That's the whole point. And it gets everyone talking about it, especially with 2020 and like that completely disrupted everyone. Yeah. People weren't able to do the things that they were normally able to do. So all those events that happened before were like predecessors to this event. This, this big one that just happened because those other events didn't really,
00:56:20
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It was more trauma based. It was programming your, your consciousness to accept things in the future. It's been a long running game. They've been, they've been doing this for a really long time, but those other events. Now 9 11 did disrupt a lot of people's lives. A lot of people took off work for a while and they had loved ones and people that died during the event. And that one was,
00:56:48
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more than JFK being assassinated. And because that was just one individual now there was like, you know, I wasn't born then I wasn't there. So I really don't know how damaging that was to people's lives. But it seems like they got over it pretty quickly. Oh, you were born. You weren't I was not born. 29.
00:57:13
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In 9-11? Oh, you're talking about JFK. Yeah, I said JFK. I wasn't born during JFK. Sorry, my bad. Yes, he was not born during JFK assassination, so I can't really comment on how the public really reacted. All I can do is go back and look at documents and see how all of that went down. But I wouldn't say that there was a shutdown of the world during JFK, right?
00:57:42
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And so all these events are happening. They're traumatic events. Then immediately after you get all of this programming from the news, especially like after 9-11. How many times did we see footage from 9-11 after 9-11 happened?
00:58:01
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it was every day for months and even years they still even show it after uh The anniversary of 9 11 every single year they do a special line, right and even the tagline after 9 11 It'll tell you everything that you need to know never forget Yeah, it's fucked up man so these these events are to shepherd and herd people in a
00:58:30
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certain direction, globally. Because 9-11 did a lot of dangerous stuff. It made us go to war, it installed the Patriot Act, which let people be surveilled and tracked without, with literally no evidence. Like they can tap into your phone, they can see your location, no matter what you're doing, where you're at, if you're in trouble, if you're not in trouble.
00:58:58
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And then 2020 also installed that kind of tracking and tracing with barcodes, with QR codes, with jab. It's just an old playbook, but they've just revamped it a little bit. And to the people listening that are like,
00:59:20
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Oh no, not all of those are plantings and whatever. Can you tell me, how is it that every single time an event like this happens, it always ends up in the fucking globalist favor? It always ends up in
00:59:39
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us losing more of our freedoms. Why does an event never happen where, oh shit, now we have more freedom. Now there's less centralization of power, less fucking stock market manipulation. People are richer. All your shit coin, those coins go to the moon. Why is it always
01:00:06
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a tightening down, clamping down, and a loss of freedoms. If it's all just organic, oopsie-daisy, oh, we didn't know that. If we log down for two weeks, sorry, two years, then the whole fucking supply chains in the world are going to collapse. Oh, we totally didn't expect Russia, the sanctions against Russia, to fuck Europe's economy up.
01:00:31
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oops sorry we're like phds here and whatever like we're not we're the only people though you know i don't know bro exactly dude that's exactly what it is and you can look back through
01:00:44
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all of those major events within the last 120 years, and you'll see that there was an agenda behind every single one of them. All of them did nothing good for humanity. I mean, even the Titanic sinking, that has... Yes, I was just thinking that.
01:01:02
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that had five of the biggest bankers on the Titanic and whenever that did not want to go along with the global banking cartel, this fractionalized banking Federal Reserve stuff. So what did they do? They put them all on this ship and then they sank the ship and killed them. So there's no opposition to what they were trying to do. And then the Federal Reserve got started a few years later. Yep.
01:01:29
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Man, listen, bro. Okay. Listen, I, do you have another 15 minutes or so? Yeah. I want to like, I have a new segment on my podcast that now I want to ask every guest code solutions talk. But before we get into that, I want to have a little bit of fun. I want to kind of end it on a slightly lighter note, although I'm sure we'll find a way to fuck it up for everybody. Cause you know, as conspiracy theorists, we're always like, we're all, there's only evil things. No. Okay. Um, have you heard of the full Ford report?
01:02:00
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No, I haven't. You heard of a cat called Benjamin Fulford? No. Okay, I've got no axe to grind with this man, but I met someone last year and we were talking a little bit, we got into conspiracy talk and the guy sounded like he knows a thing or two.
01:02:19
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But then he started talking to me about some alliance, planetary liberation alliance. I'm like, oh, fuck. Then he started telling me, that was the whole, the cute thing was about a few years ago. I'm like, oh shit. Anyway, he's like, he told me, give me your email address. I'll put you on the, I've got some good intelligence I can send you. So anyway, so this bro, the full four report, it's a, it's a paid newsletter. And he's, this dude's been sending me every Monday, this newsletter.
01:02:48
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that he pays good money to subscribe for. So today, before we got on, I said, you know what? I'm just going to go back to the start, like last May, and just grab a few snippets from this. So listen to this now. This is title followed by the first paragraph. I'll read three of these. These are from around May last year, right? Okay, title. Top secret negotiations for new age proceed well as Western rule collapses.
01:03:16
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top-level negotiations between Asian and Western elders to start a new golden age for humanity are proceeding well, according to sources involved. The basic agreement calls for the complete write-off of all debts, public and private, a one-time redistribution of assets, and a massive campaign to end poverty, stop environmental destruction, and colonize the universe with Earth's life. The plan is supported by, among others, the Western Committee of 300, the Russian government,
01:03:44
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the Indian government and the Asian secret societies that control China, ACAN, Korea and Japan. There are some concrete moves involving massive amounts of off-ledger golden dollars taking place. The details cannot yet be publicly disclosed for security reasons, the sources involved in the negotiation say. I won't read the rest of them, I'll just give you the titles.
01:04:07
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Okay, I'll read a bit more. It won't take long. Next one from the week after. Fake Biden regime collapsing as Bezos bails. The end is near for the fake Biden regime as Jeff Bezos, one of its chief backers, has bailed out and joined the Earth Alliance. CIA sources say. This was shown when his Washington Post mouthpiece reported the truth. The Ukrainian government and military are collapsing. The Khazarian mafia project to world the world from a greater Khazaria
01:04:35
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Ukraine plus Kazakhstan is thus now totally doomed.
Empowerment: Personal Responsibility and Practical Solutions
01:04:40
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And then something about the Queen, who is a senior member of the Alliance, had to say on the occasion of her platinum Jubilee. All right. So, okay. Tell me, bro. That is a bunch of bullshit nonsense. Why are people falling for this shit, man?
01:05:03
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It's because they want hope you they want their, their, their lives are such shit.
01:05:10
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that they're willing to believe in this nonsense, right? And it's a plan on two different levels, right? I call them stand-down operations, right? Like where they put something out in order for you to believe that
01:05:35
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everything is going to be taken care of, just like what was stated in the things that you read, right? All the debt's going to be wiped, you're going to get all this digital back currency into your bank account, poverty is going to be solved, all this stuff, and that's to make people
01:05:54
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not want to do anything about their current situation. That's to make people just sit back and be like, okay, the Galactic Alliance has our back. They're taking care of all of our problems. And I'm telling you something right now, none of that shit exists. The Galactic Federation doesn't exist. The Galactic Alliance doesn't exist. Those are fairy tale made up nonsense. And anybody that believes in any kind of external savior is
01:06:25
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making it to where they don't want to take responsibility for their life. That's the old religious Christianity paradigm as well, right? Just go to the church and tell the priest your sins and then you'll be forgiven and then you can do it again next week, right?
01:06:44
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Like they don't want to take responsibility for the things that's happened and they sure as hell don't want to do anything about it. They don't want to make any moves to actually create a better world, a better reality, a better society because
01:07:00
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It is the dark forces, it's the controllers and the manipulators of our reality that is putting this kind of information out, because they don't want us to do anything about it, because they know if we do do something about it, they will lose. They are very few, and we are the many. If we were to do something about it, it would be over. Done.
01:07:30
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If everyone stood up in 2020 and said, no, I am not going along with this. I am not shutting my business down. I am going to do what I want to do. It would be over. None of this stuff would be happening right now. And they would have to go back to their lab and try and concoct a new plan. It would have been done. They wouldn't have had anything. They couldn't have done anything.
01:07:58
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It had been impossible. What are you going to arrest the entire planet? Were you going to find everybody? Not going to happen. It was very simple, but we failed in that test. We failed to do that. Now, some other countries, they had more opposition.
01:08:19
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to it than others. They were at least trying and I commend them for doing that. I commend them for their protest and calling bullshit on this nonsense. But if we would have just said no from the very beginning, we're not going along with it. Nothing that they could have done. And that's the most important thing. That's how you make
01:08:49
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any kind of changes. And the whole thing was about separation. You know, distance yourself from other people because they know in a group how powerful we are as a group. Just a consciousness from one individual can make dramatic changes upon our reality. Imagine what 10 people can do. Imagine what 15, imagine what 100 or 1,000 can do. What kind of positive changes if we are all on the same page
01:09:19
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But the issue is that none of us are on the same page. Very few. And the ones that are separated. It's difficult to agree on anything, and it's been done that way on purpose. It's separation and division. I mean, the two-party system in the United States has never been further apart.
01:09:47
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It's division, separation, confusion, and information overload. So they throw all this shit at you just like they do in the MKAltra programs, overloading your consciousness with bullshit nonsense, confusing the shit out of you, giving parts of information to one state, a different part of information to another state. Those people never communicate with each other, so they go on believing whatever information that they have gotten. It's an old trick.
01:10:16
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We don't get any information here in the United States about any other countries. We don't. And anytime that we do get any kind of information about other countries, it's always doom and gloom. It's always, oh, this country bombed, blah, blah, blah, blah. They're in this war. Ukraine's in this war. Russia's doing this. It's always something bad. It's never anything good.
01:10:46
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Yeah, man. And it goes back to what you were saying. Why haven't we gotten anything good? That's what I want to know. Why haven't we gotten a win for humanity? It seems like there's been absolutely nothing that's been correctly good. No, wait, wait. Dude, come on. We got the vaccine in eight months, Operation Warp Speed. Come on. Come on.
01:11:16
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That's what someone would say. Trust the plan. No, I don't know what they're talking about. Trust the plan. Okay, final question. Go ahead.
01:11:31
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I'm just saying that that we need some kind of win for humanity. We need something collectively instead of all this fear propaganda bullshit nonsense that is traumatizing people and Taking away our freedoms taking away our rights doing all this stuff that is not in the best interest of humanity as a whole we need something that I Can just look at somebody that I a stranger, right? I just want to someday look at a stranger and
01:12:01
Speaker
and look at them and smile and nod and they know exactly what I'm talking about. I don't even have to say a word to them. I just look at them throwing a big smile on my face and be like, yeah, we fucking did that. We did that and it was awesome. It was cool as shit. But instead we get the opposite of that.
01:12:28
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the fear, we get the propaganda, we get the taking away of our rights, we get the taking away of our freedoms, more nonsense, QR codes telling you, you know, you have to scan before you go into a store. More surveillance. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I want. And that's what I hope for.
01:12:51
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Yeah, go ahead. Let me tell you, I interviewed Charlie Robinson back in November and
01:13:03
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Near the end, I was saying similar things to you. If there was mass non-compliance, none of this fucking COVID nonsense would have rolled out and they would have been like, all right, back to the drawing board. Let's think up another load of bollocks. But anyway, then at the end, he said, I'm going to have you on the podcast. I'm like, yeah, bro, let's talk solutions, right?
01:13:33
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And he's like, yeah, let's talk solutions. We can talk about those sorts of things. Right. And the day before that, I listened to some dude, forests, something or other, forget his name, but he was all about solutions. Right. So since then, since about kind of no early November,
01:13:49
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I got inspired and you know guys like John Bush and what's the other the name of the other guy he wrote that book helped to opt out of the technocratic state his name is escaping me but since then I've been doing less research and I've been doing more like my reading and my research has been more into like you know hermetic principles, Kibalia and you know just kind of a little bit more esoteric shit
01:14:17
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coupled with real life practical experience, I'm getting into a little bit of indoor gardening, growing some fucking lettuce, strawberries and shit, just little things like that. And I'm just doing, so I'm focusing on the beautiful parts, I have a ton of books about beautiful stuff, like the teachings of Buddha, all sorts of amazing things. And on the other hand, I'm just doing practical things. I'm finding a lot of joy
01:14:45
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reassurance in doing practical things where you have a feeling of control. You might plant a little seedling. You don't have control over Mother Nature, but you have control over that process and that little sprout, that little tomato plant. You have this feeling of control. So I feel like
01:15:08
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This mass awakening, it's a myth. We can do things. We can lead by example. And each and every one of us, you can try to connect to your neighbor more and kind of say, my neighbor had an issue a few days ago. I'm like, listen, if you need any help, call me, God damn it. I mean it.
01:15:27
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I mean it. I will anytime call me, I will come out here and I'll help you. It's two minutes away. I will do it. And I'm just trying to connect. So since then, I'll tell you, bro, I've been a lot happier instead of just we know there's problems, but the solution is within us. Actually, I love what you say beautifully. Every time you end your interviews, it's fucking beautiful. Do you say if you can see through the illusion, you are the solution. I love that.
01:15:55
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So anyway, long-winded segue into the final question before you can obviously tell us where listeners can find you, is for my new segment that I'm going to be carving out of every interview and I also do solo called Solutions Talk, would you please give us, tell us what are you doing that others can also do to increase their freedom, self-reliance, autonomy, and or resilience
01:16:24
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to the challenges that we face this decade and beyond. Bro, what are you doing? What could others be doing?
01:16:33
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I think connection and connecting with other human beings because that's what we strive on. We strive on connection. We need somebody else that we can physically touch, that we can hug, that doesn't have to be an intimate partner. It can be a friendship. It can be whatever. I feel the need to really be friends with a lot of people because again, like I was mentioning earlier,
01:17:02
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there's been a wedge that's been driven between us. And that has a lot to do with 9 11 because, and before that I had to do with serial killers and murderers. You know, that really stopped the whole hitchhiking thing. No one picks up anybody anymore, right? They don't see someone on the side of the road and they don't want to help dude.
01:17:28
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They don't want to help people. You see someone broken down on the side of the road in a vehicle. Even in the 90s, whenever I was growing up, you would pull over to the side of the road and ask if they needed any help. I grew up in a family that our car would break down all the time.
01:17:49
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All the time on the side of the road, we would have problems. And every single time that we broke down, there was always someone that pulled off to the side of the road and asked if we needed any help. Every time. Well, it was either a pedestrian, a truck driver, then they would offer us some kind of something to drink, some kind of soda, a snack. But you don't see that anymore. You never see that ever.
01:18:18
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they're there they break down and then they Call a mechanic or they call a tow truck or they call AAA or they call whoever to come and get them No one pulls over to the side of the road and takes the time out of their day to ask if they're okay Or if they needed any help Yeah, and that's been the cause of Just like I stated with 9-11 terrorism murderers Rapist and all that that's been
01:18:47
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perpetuated through society, all the serial killer shows and Netflix is doing all the true crime episodes. The true crime is like really hot and heavy right now. You got to ask yourself why? Yeah, why are they doing that? Why are they perpetuating these true crime narratives and all these murderers and serial killers? It's to make you afraid. It's to make you afraid of helping people out.
01:19:18
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And in turn, those shows and those serial killers and all the coverage of all those people from even the early 50s in the United States has inadvertently created those people.
01:19:33
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They have created those serial killers. They've created those rapists. They've created those not good people that will hurt other individuals. That's how it works. That's how this reality works is you put out a thought and you put out an idea. You can, it can be a really consolidated thing. It can be something that doesn't even really even happen. It only happened one time.
01:20:02
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then you put that out, you blast that everywhere, you put that on the news, you put it on these, well, now it would be, you know, Netflix shows, you know, Hulu, all these streaming services, YouTube and all that. And then that perpetuates itself. And then it creates the next person, because someone that is unstable, that has mental problems or mental issues, watches that, and then they think, Oh, well,
01:20:26
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Why don't I do that? It's the exact same way with the music. The music does the exact same thing with rap and hip hop and stuff, which I listen to some rap in it, but I know what it is. Right. And I know that, you know, it's, and it's an attempt to program my subconscious. Oh yeah. Bang that chick do them drugs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? And that's programming. Lincoln Park singing about suicide and shit in the early 2000s.
01:20:54
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Exactly. I mean, it's all a, it's whether you want to believe it or not, it's all an agenda to influence people in a certain direction. And when you listen to that or you watch that, and you're not in a good mental state,
01:21:18
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Now, I'm not saying that the music and the TV shows and all that are making people do anything. Don't get me wrong here. They're not making people do anything. But if they're in a similar situation where they have the opportunity to do something that they've that they've heard someone else say, or they've watched somebody else do on the news on Netflix, on one of these TV shows or a movie or something like that.
01:21:44
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the probability of them actually doing it increases tenfold. For sure, for sure. We're programmable. We're so influenced by everything that comes into our head, be that radio, TV, Netflix, what we read, the people around us, every single one of those things.
01:22:10
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is programming us and deprogramming us or further programming us. So if all you're watching, like if you're watching violent movies, you're playing violent video games, then you're listening to violent music, like that normalizes that, you know? So it's absolutely, it's an influence any way you cut it.
01:22:32
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Absolutely. And people that are not in good situations in their life, they don't have a lot of money. They're listening to people talking about doing crimes, doing drugs, and that influences them because they see successful people talking about it. And then they think that they can also do it. It's a continuous perpetuation to keep people down.
01:23:02
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and not up. They don't want us to rise. They don't want us to better our lives. They don't want us to be happy. They want us in a constant state of fear and at the bottom of the totem pole. And I don't mean like a constant state of fear as in like a fear of
01:23:27
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a physical attack or the fear of being physically hurt or, you know, beat up or whatever. I mean, like a subconscious fear of something outside of yourself instead of being okay with you as an individual and doing your own thing and not worrying about what other people think of you and and doing what you need to do to
01:23:57
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better your life, you're stuck in a box. You're stuck in that four by four box, right? We're constantly surrounded by boxes. Our house is a box. Our work is a box. We're watching a box. I'm on a box right now talking to you, you know, and it makes it almost dang near impossible to get outside of that box and open that box and
01:24:26
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do something different. This is keeping everybody down at a very low state to where they can't perceive things outside of their reality. They've been locked in to their preconceived thoughts, ideas, and beliefs, and it's so deep-rooted that they get triggered when they hear something that doesn't fall into their previously established belief systems.
01:24:54
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Yeah man, it's fear and then a sense of lack. That's another thing that's constantly being pushed, force fed, shoved down our throats, fear or a sense of lack. And of course, not to forget that fear of loss, right? That kind of fear now.
01:25:26
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Let's get your jabs or we'll be in lockdown again. You know, that kind of shit. It's like, bro, like, I mean, like, I'm glad I'm glad I'm connecting with people that can see through the shit, but
01:25:42
Speaker
I'm sorry folks listening I know we're gonna end it on solutions talk but I want to get Ryder I want to get your opinion like do you how do you think this this what's the end game here how you think it will end is it total slavery or is it gonna be like the simulations gonna be like next level and then it's gonna be just a whole
01:26:06
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Like it's going to be like a Tartaria style reset or some shit. And then you just wake up and it's a whole different world. It's like an entirely different paradigm. Do you think that's just fairytale fucking trust the plant BS again? Yeah, not to be cynical, but I do believe that is a fairytale bullshit nonsense.
01:26:29
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You know, it's really up to us. It's really up to us what direction that we want to go. You know, what we're going to do. We're kind of already past the fork in the road, but I believe that there's still a chance for us to create something positive for everyone that's beneficial to
01:26:50
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Humanity as a whole now What we get that Don't know and I'm not here to blow fairy tale nonsense bullshit up anybody's ass, right? I'm not about that. I'm about to the real stuff and there there are plans well whether they Get you get that far in their plans or not I believe that their plans is to
01:27:19
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eliminate a large majority of the population.
01:27:22
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large majority. I mean, we're already in the throes of that, whether people want to admit it or not. There's people dying all the time from something that has been put inside of them. Now people can say, well, there's hundreds of thousands of people that die every day. Well, I mean, this is an excess amount of deaths. And that is their plan to eliminate a majority of the population, I would say,
01:27:54
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at least
01:27:57
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70 to 75% of the population if their plans go through. Now that entails a lot of other plans as well. It's not just the JAP. There's other things that I personally believe that they are going to do. It's going to be another war. It's going to happen. That's going to kill off a lot of people.
01:28:25
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mixed with the jobs. And I think that that's going to be very devastating. I mean, when you look back at the history of the way the government has always worked, that's what they always do. It's always another war. That's how you get people out of the depression or
01:28:44
Speaker
you know, you get them all who rod to defeat the enemy, you know, that external enemy. And we've been fighting in an invisible enemy for three years now. So now it's going to become a physical enemy that we have to battle and take down and mix along with
01:29:04
Speaker
the injections is going to cause a lot of people to no longer be here. And with the people that is
01:29:15
Speaker
leftover, I think that they're going to do some kind of technological enhancements on them. And I think a majority of the population that's left over is going to inevitably be some kind of cyborg type of
01:29:38
Speaker
Um, being, you know, cause that's another one of their agendas is like immortality. You know, they, they want to live forever, but not everybody live forever. They want to reduce the population so that we are more controllable and then install this, uh, technological mechanical cyborg kind of society in order to control people and keep everybody on track.
01:30:08
Speaker
Now, the other way that we can go with it is that we can rise up, we can do something about it, and we can all come together and destroy their plans by saying, no, we're not going to do that.
01:30:26
Speaker
We're not going to go along with what you're doing. We're happy the way that we are, and we can install some kind of different currency that will be beneficial for everyone. It won't be this slave-backed Federal Reserve based on that kind of currency, because I believe that's where a lot of the problems came from, is this cash monetary
01:30:54
Speaker
system currency because it places a bunch of people on top and then people that don't have that currency are on the bottom. And the middle class has basically been a race. That's been another thing that's been done with COVID in 2020. It's brought the middle class down to be the lower class of group the two together. You know, the middle class is now the lower class and lower class is even lower than what they were before.
01:31:22
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They're poor. So it really just depends on which direction we want to go in. It's really up to us what we want to do, how we want to handle it, and if we're going to continue to fall for propaganda after propaganda and fall for lies that they have continuously perpetuated. If we do and we continue to go down that path and listen to the TV whenever they say all this nonsense, then that's what we're going to get.
01:31:51
Speaker
there's no way around it. That's exactly what's going to happen. We're going to be living in a technocratic kind of society where we have implants in our heads. And I'm not saying that this is going to happen in 20 years or 30 years or 40 years or even 50 years, right? This is a long-scale plan. Now, people that are talking about that, it's
01:32:13
Speaker
If we don't do something now, then we're going to be cyborgs by 2030. It's not the way that it works. This has been a slow game. It's been a very, very slow game and it's going to continue to be a slow game.
Conspiracy Research and Unexpected Global Events
01:32:27
Speaker
They just can't do all this all at once because if they do it all at once, it creates too much opposition and they don't want opposition. That's why they have to do it slowly. So if this kind of reality does end up happening, I would say
01:32:41
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It would be like what I'm talking about in around 100 years. We're not going to be here. I'm not going to be here for it. You're not going to be here for it. Most of our friends are not going to be here for it, but eventually somewhere down the line, it will be like that.
01:32:58
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But, you know, like 2020 and 2021, it really looked like they put the pedal to the metal. And because I, dude, I, in 2019, I kind of took a sabbatical of the conspiracy research for about eight, nine months to write my book.
01:33:18
Speaker
So I was immersed, like I'm talking 12, 14 hours a day at the computer every single day for like, almost every single day for eight months. So I was super immersed and I published it right in the middle of February when the lockdown shit happened. So we heard once or twice about this COVID stuff and me and my wife are like, ah, another hoax, another BS, another BS.
01:33:42
Speaker
completely caught flat-footed, completely unaware by it, and then I got back into the research after I published the book, and I was like, fuck, back in 2019 when I was doing this stuff full-time, I could see the plan laid out, including transhumanist agenda, but I was like, you know what, this is gonna take, this is, like you say, a slow game,
01:34:06
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100 years, they've been doing this for hundreds of years, socially engineering society and installing their tentacles in every government and whatever else. But 2021 and 2021, really, I was like, what the?
01:34:27
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fuck. And if that's the pace they're going to keep, we have to really buckle up. But we know that millionaires don't study astrology, billionaires do. So whatever they're doing,
01:34:45
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It's really driven in many ways by some astrological stuff that I personally don't understand well, but other smarter people that are into it that I've listened to are talking about it. There's like this 19 year
01:35:01
Speaker
cycle as well. And if you look back from the COVID stuff, back 19 years was 2001 when the 9-11 stuff happened. So one dude I follow, he says that there's going to be a massive push
01:35:22
Speaker
And they have until about 2526. That's when this kind of window of opportunity in a way closes because it's like it's all cyclical with the stars so that they have to whatever agendas.
01:35:37
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They have, for the next four or five years, they're going to accelerate because it's like David Icke says, the totalitarian tiptoe. It's a few steps forward, one step back, as we know.
01:35:53
Speaker
Oh, everybody's going to have to have a, you know, 16 fucking super boosters and the pass. And then they're like, okay, no, we don't need the pass. Now you don't need the vaccination status to travel, you know? So it's like a few steps forward or a bunch of steps forward. Now a couple of steps back. And then it's like, like allow and let the plebs fucking start planning their holidays again. And then boom,
Stock Market, Anxiety, and Societal Collapse
01:36:18
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Ukraine.
01:36:18
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and now the Ukraine stuff has died down a couple of months of now the stock markets are going up right ah everybody loves the stock markets going up like completely now everybody's gonna start feeling rich and then BAM right when you least expect it
01:36:34
Speaker
again another thing. So for me, dude, I have such PTSD from this shit that I got a new red light therapy lamp. So I got this one and all the shots off after 20 minutes, right? So I'm there, got basking in the beautiful red light, healing red light, and then 20 minutes it stops. And for the first few months of using this lamp, it would stop.
01:36:59
Speaker
And I'll be like, fuck, is the electricity stopping? Is this the great reset? You know what I mean? This is how much, how fucking, like, imagine how traumatized we all are, you know, in our own different ways. Absolutely, my friend.
01:37:17
Speaker
I just don't personally, because everything has to go. Like, if their plans come to fruition, it all has to come crumbling down. Like, buildings have to go. The structure of the way that we've been living for the past hundred years has to go. And that's going to take some time to rebuild. You know, they're just not going to have, because I'm expecting all out chaos.
01:37:45
Speaker
That's the only way that they can do it and get away with it is by making us think that it's our idea to do it. That's how COVID was gotten away with. It was our idea by throwing propaganda at us 24 seven and talking about how many people have died and how many people are infected, how many people are sick, how the hospitals are overrun. And people are like, Oh shit.
01:38:13
Speaker
I better lock down in my house for two weeks. I better just play it safe. You know, that's the way that they're going to continue to do it. And I'm, I'm looking for a all out war and an all out destruction of everything that we know it all has to kind of burn to the ground. And that's what I'm talking about in
01:38:37
Speaker
is what we get whenever we rebuild. Who's going to be rebuilding that? Are we going to be rebuilding it? Or are there going to be a replacement for the structure that's already been here that's going to rebuild it in their image? That's the choice that we make.
01:38:59
Speaker
right then and there. That's the fork in the road there. How do we rebuild society after it has collapsed? Because it has to collapse. That is the only way we get
01:39:15
Speaker
this New World Order agenda 21, agenda 2030 reality that they want and it's the only way that we get our reality, this golden age of reality that's beneficial for everyone.
01:39:30
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Either way, it all has to come down. You can't build something new that's beneficial for everyone on the planet with old ways. It doesn't work.
Critique of Outdated Systems and Control
01:39:43
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You can't do it. You can't just keep all this bullshit, corruption, nonsense, school systems, governmental programs, the healthcare model that we've been working with and using for this entire time into something beneficial for everyone. You just can't.
01:39:59
Speaker
Oh, that's got to go. It has to. Because all of it's been corrupted. The education system, the health, the sick care system, it's not a healthcare system, the monetary system, like the whole paradigm of fucking the, this inflationary monetary system is a scam of the, like you said it yourself, this, this, this is the biggest thing that has enslaved us. We're in fact, in fact,
01:40:30
Speaker
When you think about it, there's very little left of the plan. The plan has actually been fucking accomplished. It's just now the veneer, the finishing touches. When you think about it, we're dead slaves. Who owns their home?
01:40:50
Speaker
Who doesn't have a mortgage crippling debt in the States? We know the debt levels in the States, but same in Western Europe and nevermind. Like if you talk about Africa, those people, excuse the statement, it's an Irish from Ireland. They say they don't got a pot to piss in kind of thing. So half of us don't have a pot to piss in. The other half have fucking, it's like,
01:41:16
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do you want chains of iron or chains of gold, as Michael Tesarian says. So in the Western world, we're like, give me chains of gold and I'll be a quiet little fucking slave. I'll drive my S-Class. I'll have my two story four bedroom house that I'm going to pay Mort Gidge death fucking contract. And in the UK now they're considering, we're talking about
01:41:43
Speaker
having mortgages that you can pass on to your children because people can't afford houses. So just like slowly creeping back into proper feudalism, that kind of way, you know, like because they wanted feudalism, the plebs revolted. So, oh, yeah, democracy, you guys are in control now. So it's like, nah, but like, OK, they've had enough democracy. They've had enough freedom. It's time to, you know, put the hooks back in and start reeling, reeling the fucking fishes back in.
01:42:11
Speaker
you know it's the man you know what i think bro it's 10 p.m here my time i think we could talk for hours and i love it but uh we might have to go for round two with you my brother because um we'll be gone for a while i think before we go unless you have any closing statements please tell us where folks will find you
01:42:34
Speaker
Yeah, I would love to come back on my friend appreciate you and we'll leave this on a cliffhanger here and we'll talk about it the next time I come on which is what did these ancient societies use as monetary value? What did they use in order to build these giant structures? What kind of payment system
01:43:06
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Did the Egyptians use to build the Great Pyramid of Giza? What payment system did people get to build these giant cathedrals with all this amazing artwork? Yeah, bro. Fascinating topics.
Conclusion: Where to Find More Content
01:43:24
Speaker
So you can find me on YouTube at Raised By Giants. I produce and put out two videos a week, one on Tuesdays and one on Fridays. You can also catch my premium content on Rockfin at Raised By Giants and all of the different podcast platforms to Spotify, iHeartRadio, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music.
01:43:48
Speaker
Any of those places anywhere you listen to podcasts, you can find my show on it's just raised by giants. Uh, you can find me on Twitter at raised by giants eight and on Instagram at raised by giants pod. Thanks so much brother. I appreciate you fascinating conversation. I really enjoyed it.
01:44:03
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I love how we're ending on one hour and 44 minutes. What 144 has a great significance. And I've been seeing 144 for the last three years everywhere. Amazing. And it's 144, one for now. Okay. Anyway, better stop it writer Lee. Thank you so much for coming on, bro.