Kurt's Workshop Updates
00:00:46
jamie peacock
Good morning, Kurt. How are you this morning?
00:00:50
Curt
Greetings and salutations, Jamie. I'm doing fantastic. How are you doing?
00:00:54
jamie peacock
I'm doing great. I just found my tape measure.
00:00:56
Curt
I saw that, yeah. was I was wondering if you're trying to like subliminally tell me something while the intro was running or something.
00:01:01
jamie peacock
No. I've been trying to find a freaking tape measure in my workshop for like four days. Turns out it was upstairs by my computer.
00:01:07
jamie peacock
I haven't been up here all weekend.
00:01:09
Curt
Oh, of course it'd be there.
00:01:10
Curt
That's the first place you should have looked.
00:01:11
jamie peacock
but Exactly. Logical that it should be here. I was trying to measure something and having to use a ruler and go, put my finger and then move the ruler and then put my finger.
00:01:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, caveman style, properly. But yeah, what have you been up to this week?
00:01:25
Curt
nice uh just a whole wackadoo production i got that job ah that i had to get done for that like
00:01:33
Curt
corporate client whatever. um
00:01:35
Curt
Got that completely out of my hair, so that's nice. And then I have a few extras that I'm going to throw up onto the, actually after this podcast, i'm going to write out an email, send it out to the lovely people that subscribe to my thing. Uh-oh, I'm getting signed out of different accounts. It doesn't matter.
00:01:49
Curt
And yeah, so hopefully the internet doesn't die here for some weird reason. Anyways, and and and i'll I'll share it share it to the ah to the masses of the people that follow me for all that kind of jazz. so So yeah.
00:02:00
jamie peacock
Yeah. Okay.
Anodizing Techniques and Successes
00:02:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, that black, that black titanium looked very, very sexy.
00:02:08
Curt
Thanks, man. Yeah, I've done...
00:02:08
jamie peacock
and I didn't know it could be done. la
00:02:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's not easy, i assume.
00:02:14
Curt
No, there's a... It's a process. And actually, i talked to... Oh, it's a knife maker. Rob... Rob... Rob... so I'll get his name um later in the podcast. And I talked to him about it.
00:02:25
Curt
And we kind of shared some because I was doing... I think I found a process to do a hard coat anodizing on titanium, like, uh, whatever I've for type three, type five, forget what it is.
00:02:36
Curt
I never remember the differences between the, yeah.
00:02:36
jamie peacock
Type 3 usually is hard. I know in aluminium, Type 2 is not super hard and Type 3 is very thick and very hard.
00:02:44
Curt
Yeah, so on titanium, when you do that, when you do hard anodizing, you get kind of like a military gray-green.
00:02:49
Curt
It's a super cool color. And if you look anywhere on the internet, it is like the most guarded trade secret in the world.
00:02:55
Curt
Like i I've read probably, I spent one whole summer just reading white papers on it. um
00:03:00
Curt
And I finally cobbled together like three or four different white papers and found a process that works. ah So i i talk I think it's Rob Johnson. I think that's his, I think he he makes knives. um Anyways, he knew how to do black anodizing well. And then I kind of shared some details on this hard anodizing.
00:03:13
Curt
um So we kind of just swap stories.
00:03:15
Curt
But yeah, so um anyways, I ran a bunch of beta tests on black pens for a while. It doesn't work super well on anything other than like a really aggressive blasted finish because it needs it needs to like bite.
00:03:26
Curt
It needs tooth to the um anyway.
00:03:29
Curt
So that little ISO grip pens work perfectly because they got pockets so you can blast the crap out of them. And then they're shielded.
00:03:35
Curt
They're shielded from getting rubbed. So I think they'll work really well. So we'll see.
00:03:38
jamie peacock
Okay. No, it looked really, really good.
00:03:41
Curt
Thanks, man. Yeah, it's ah it's got a cool look. That like bright polish and then the dark black.
00:03:45
Curt
it's Yeah, it's got a cool contrast.
00:03:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, no. yeah It looked really, really good.
00:03:50
jamie peacock
But, yeah. so Okay, so you mean you just finished our production this week.
00:03:55
Curt
I just, yeah, did a whole wackadoo with that.
00:03:57
Curt
And yeah, some other stuff. but I mean, we'll get into it. You look like you have a list longer than my arm, so.
00:04:01
jamie peacock
Yeah. Uh... Yeah, I finally finished those 1,000 Dutchman squeeze box pins, the accordion pins.
00:04:10
jamie peacock
I blanked them out on the M-Coloc a month and a half ago, and then I needed to make a setup in the mill. So I finally made a setup in the mill, and then rigid tapped 1,000 M1.6 holes in a day.
00:04:22
jamie peacock
Didn't break a tap either.
00:04:22
Curt
Did you have, did you have like a, like how many were loaded at one go?
00:04:23
jamie peacock
It was great. Like, literally, yeah. 10. 10.
00:04:28
Curt
Like, were you doing Wednesday?
00:04:30
jamie peacock
No, no, I was doing 10 at a time, yeah.
00:04:30
Curt
Okay. So it wasn't, that's it.
00:04:31
jamie peacock
So I made a fixture. I needed to be able to push the part out to eject it, so I couldn't make two fixtures back-to-back on a pallet. And they don't come around often enough to justify throwing, wow i could have put them on a pallet, but it didn't really justify the effort.
00:04:44
jamie peacock
So I just made a thing that goes in my vase, slammed 10 of them in, tightened the bolts, hit, go. Actually, the fixture came out really, really nicely. um
00:04:52
jamie peacock
I must probably post a picture of that on Instagram because it really, I was really impressed with the way that that worked. ah But yeah, that was one day, made a thousand of those.
00:05:02
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, finished the drone landing gear this morning. So we made 200 components worth two ops each on each component. that when That finished out. And then we made a thousand aim assists over four days for Torx bits.
Production and Inventory Management
00:05:17
jamie peacock
That's the stupid little thing we we press on.
00:05:20
jamie peacock
I was managing to do about 300, 350 a day on Bertha. Bertha was just running flat out. Put 750 millimeter long bar in, hit go, 36 parts come out. You pick them out the machine, load a new bar, hit go, and it carries on.
00:05:33
jamie peacock
There's a mountain of shavings in the whole corner of the machine. Because I don't have any storage but for steel chips currently.
00:05:40
jamie peacock
So yeah, I made a mountain in the machine. So that's tomorrow's endeavors to clean that out. so
00:05:46
jamie peacock
yeah But does it's been it's been a very productive week. And then I've started on those molds. The first one came out of the machine about two hours ago.
00:05:57
jamie peacock
Second one will be done in about an hour and 20 minutes time. So after the podcast, i'm going to run downstairs and go check that everything's happy. Machine will turn itself off and then a little bit of hand polishing.
00:06:08
jamie peacock
So i polished up the first half because there was a little bit of a blend line. I've got to use a, so I do all the finishing with formal end mill, a ball mill. Then I come in with a one millimeter ball mill to just chase out a few corners and where they meet, I can't get the geodesic to go over the way I want.
00:06:25
jamie peacock
So I literally just go there with a EDM stone, blend it, hit it with some 1,200 grits and it's all blended together and done.
00:06:33
jamie peacock
I polished the one out in like five and a minutes.
00:06:36
jamie peacock
So it's not a lot of work to polish them out.
00:06:38
Curt
Okay, yeah, so it's it's not worth, like, just chasing the whole thing with a small tool.
00:06:42
jamie peacock
No, I'll just I'll blend it out with the Scotchbrought pad and some 1200 grits.
00:06:48
jamie peacock
And if they want to shiny, then that they can polish it themselves.
00:06:51
Curt
What are they, they, are they, like, laying up carbon into it, or?
00:06:51
jamie peacock
But yeah, blend.
00:06:54
jamie peacock
They are going to mold releases, paint it, and then lay their glass straight into it. comes out of the parts painted already.
00:07:03
Curt
Okay, I got you. Okay, so that's going be a pretty nice finish.
00:07:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, so they want it smooth.
00:07:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, and it it is.
00:07:07
jamie peacock
It's a pretty nice finish. little bit of funny business going on. You can see the roughing toolpath through the finish. So you can see where there were steps. Because I do a roughing finish, but then I do a finishing finish.
00:07:20
jamie peacock
And you can actually, in the right light, you can catch it.
00:07:23
jamie peacock
But you cannot feel it. And you rub it with the scotch brite, that'll just disappear. So I quickly buffed it up, and yeah, I'm happy with it.
00:07:30
jamie peacock
That's the first two of eight. And these are the shortest ones.
00:07:35
jamie peacock
These ones have two and a half hours of finishing on each. The ones that I plan on running tomorrow, I think, go up to like four and a five hours on each one for finishing. And then the big ones big ones are 14 hours of finishing.
00:07:48
Curt
Oh, does your, I said, does your, does your power situation make you nervous on that one?
00:07:49
jamie peacock
Yeah. 0.15 step over. And it's the full, yeah.
00:07:58
jamie peacock
Just a little. Just the little. um I have a plan in place for if they that is a problem. We'll just drop the whole profile down a bit. But I could probably get away with finishing the thing with twice the step over and cut the cycle time. But yeah I don't really want to spend seven hours finishing it only to realize, oh shit, I've got to spend 14 hours refinishing it.
00:08:20
Curt
Totally. Yeah, yeah.
00:08:20
jamie peacock
It's, yeah.
00:08:22
jamie peacock
I might experiment. So I ordered a spare piece of each mold size. ordered spare piece of material. So I might experiment tomorrow with one of the bigger cavities. And worst case, I just dropped the whole profile and I've lost four hours. It's not the end of the world.
00:08:34
Curt
Yeah, well, it's not like you have a thousand to do or like shaving.
00:08:38
Curt
like Yeah, you might, it might suck some extra time, but.
00:08:40
jamie peacock
I have a deadline on these, but yeah like the deadline is 23 days away still.
00:08:45
jamie peacock
So machining is not the limiting factor.
00:08:48
jamie peacock
The morons who can't keep stock is the limiting factor. Like the reason that I make the locating pins on the anchor point is because of these guys that I buy the drill bushes for, for these molds or from, for these molds.
00:09:00
jamie peacock
They are useless.
00:09:01
jamie peacock
I'm waiting for them to confirm when, when I can expect my drill bushes to be there. Cause if it would be Wednesday, it would be really nice. So I could, while I'm out that side of the world, I could pick that up as well.
00:09:11
jamie peacock
But I thoroughly, thoroughly doubt it'll be, it'll be then.
Pricing and Licensing Challenges
00:09:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. So what's happening with your springs?
00:09:22
Curt
Uh, so they came in, um, which was nice cause they, uh, this is the local company or local to me.
00:09:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, the one you can throw a baseball at.
00:09:27
Curt
And, uh, when I can throw baseball, i mean, I have to have really strong arm, but yeah, they're, they're in my hometown.
00:09:34
Curt
Um, and, uh, they, they were kind of waffling on the tolerance I wanted to hold.
00:09:39
Curt
Um, and I asked him, like, Hey, like if you make a batch and like you're, you know, let's say you're plus five bow on the ID.
00:09:47
Curt
will they, I'm assuming they'll, they'll all be plus five.
00:09:50
Curt
Like it won't be like plus five minus five plus eight. Like I'm once it's set up, I'm assuming it's all going to likelink like clank, clank, clank, until you put like a new roll of wire in or whatever.
00:10:00
Curt
And, uh, yeah, they, they were kind of hesitant on it and they quoted me a tighter tolerance. Um, so I was, it wasn't a ton of money, but I was kind of half nervous that I would get them and they'd like, okay, these don't fit. And then I just wasted all this cash, but they fit perfectly.
00:10:12
Curt
And every, like I randomly tested, I ordered a thousand and I randomly tested every one of them and they all meet my spec perfectly.
00:10:15
jamie peacock
and okay oh that's great yeah no that's that's really nice i'm hoping uh the anodizers don't ruin my my pots i will know tomorrow
00:10:18
Curt
So was super, super relaxed about that. i was like, okay, okay, good. So yeah.
00:10:31
jamie peacock
So I dropped it off. I got It should be done in like a day or two. And then they had an issue with their tank. So then there were a message. said, Hey, what's happening? It was meant to be a day or two. Cause we're now like nearly a week on. And he was no, sorry. We had an issue with the tank. It's going to go in tomorrow. I'm like, cool. Any chance I can pick it up on Wednesday when I'm in the area. Like it's not far. It's all of 30 kilometers, 25 kilometers, somewhere around that range. But I'm going to be up the road, picking my mom up from the airport.
00:10:58
jamie peacock
So I'm like, I'm planning all my errands for Wednesday morning that I pick my mom up and then she can just tag along with me while I go visit like five or six different people. Getting all the screws for the anchor points.
00:11:08
jamie peacock
Picking up the anodizing for the anchor points. Like there's a whole bunch of stuff in that area that i want to just knock out in one file swoop.
00:11:16
jamie peacock
But yeah, we will see.
00:11:17
jamie peacock
Hopefully they don't ruin it because I'll be very sad if they do.
00:11:21
Curt
Oh, that would suck. Yeah, that would suck.
00:11:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, because I did...
00:11:23
jamie peacock
21. Yeah. twenty one
00:11:29
jamie peacock
a It's a lot. Like, if I look at the... The material cost is minor. It's more the time that's been put in there to machine all those bodies.
00:11:39
jamie peacock
Like, if I look at what my actual costing is on that, it's a lot of fucking money that I'm risking on the anodize. Like, the anodize think, what's it, it's 5% of the cost of the um of the of the actual cost for the unit, or the cost for that that component, so it's like, cool, I'm risking 95% of the value here on a 5% process, but yeah, I'm sure it'll be fine, like,
00:12:05
jamie peacock
i I gave them one.
00:12:06
jamie peacock
that ah They phoned me and asked if I had any parts that they could put in their display cabinets. was yes, I have one of the samples you did for me for free that has the wrong size pins in it so ah from when I tried to use dial pins.
00:12:17
jamie peacock
So I engraved my name on it and then sent it to them. I gave it to them as a sample after I engraved my name on it.
00:12:23
Curt
Oh, cool. Yeah, that's nice. Why not?
00:12:25
jamie peacock
Because why not?
00:12:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, put Joe's Big Engineering on it like freaking straight up.
00:12:29
jamie peacock
So yeah, that's now going to be in their display cabinets.
00:12:32
jamie peacock
which is kind of cool. Yeah, so we'll see.
00:12:34
jamie peacock
Those are coming back. Heat treat I should get back tomorrow, hopefully, as well for the pads. So Anchor Point batch two is well on track.
00:12:40
jamie peacock
the The biggest question right now is the slide valves. They've been ordered.
00:12:45
jamie peacock
i I ended up ordering another 25 of them because the first 25 hadn't shipped, and I was really worried that they weren't going to arrive in time.
00:12:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I ordered another 25.
00:13:00
jamie peacock
So now have 50 on the way.
00:13:02
Curt
isn't how you're going to be buried in slide valves.
00:13:04
jamie peacock
Pretty much. But yeah, they'll just go straight into the into the packing room of Justice and gone on the shelf for the next batch.
00:13:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, we're also running a promo at the moment that went out to all the guys on the email list.
00:13:21
jamie peacock
If you buy one of the last four in batch one, you get a complimentary pallet. Additional complimentary pallet.
00:13:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. That's also what you get if you use the Taps and Patients affiliate code.
00:13:34
jamie peacock
yes yeah like there's four of them sitting on the shelf waiting to go and then the next batch will be ready we're aiming for middle of the month is when we're aiming to have those all all sorted out so that i've been shoving that production in between the other production things but yeah then uh also i had to adjust the price on the anchor points by 30 dollars
00:13:58
Curt
ah Just because of the craziness of everything?
00:13:59
jamie peacock
Because of the Rand. Because the dollar's dropping, basically.
00:14:02
jamie peacock
So just to keep to keep my my pricing in line, because it's manufactured in Rand's, I need to keep the Rand price the same. So upped it by $30. Not the end of the world, but... Also, we changed on the website today from... So my website with eQuid, instead of add to cart, it's add to bag.
00:14:19
Curt
Yeah, I noticed that. Yeah, yeah.
00:14:21
jamie peacock
Yes. So I went, I made Danica change it today. That was the default. I'm like, please go figure out how the fuck to change this, because I think it's dissuading people. Because it's not what you're expecting to see. So I don't know.
00:14:31
jamie peacock
Because I'm looking at the analytics and I'm seeing, okay, cool.
00:14:33
jamie peacock
We're getting people putting it in their cart while they're not checking out. Like what is the, I'm trying to just remove all barriers.
00:14:40
jamie peacock
So yeah, it's interesting.
00:14:40
Curt
ah It's a great idea.
00:14:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, selling stuff. Like I just keep going as well as I'm finding things I don't like and fixing it.
00:14:48
Curt
Well, and there's so many like dumb things. Like, I don't know if it was, I don't know if it was on your site, um but like I added some whatever shirts to my bag. And normally like, soon as you do that, it'll like pop up like a little cart icon on the top or like it'll update a number or like something to let you know, like something is going on.
00:15:02
Curt
And was like, just like nothing.
00:15:03
Curt
And i was like, what the heck? I'm like, what kind of like, what kind of,
00:15:05
jamie peacock
As far as I know, mine has a pop-up.
00:15:08
Curt
Yeah, but i'm like what kind of e-commerce site doesn't make this like blatantly obvious? And like you know if you like refresh the page, it should like or if you navigate away and come back, like it should retain that, like all that kind of stuff. It's like it's so important, and it's just like i'm like...
00:15:21
Curt
I'm not calling you out on it. I'm just saying like any e-commerce person is just like...
00:15:22
jamie peacock
No, no, I'm checking because it should be like that. Yeah, don't know. Mine, the little basket or the little thing pops up. The card pops up in the top corner.
00:15:32
Curt
Yeah, and that's another thing is...
00:15:32
jamie peacock
I thought it did. I was just making sure.
00:15:34
Curt
Like i always check on, I check on mobile and then I check on the desktop because like, I'll look at my traffic and I'm like, okay, 80% is coming through, you know, mobile. And then like, you're like, oh, everything renders like crap.
00:15:43
Curt
And it's just like, it's just a weird thing to have to think about.
00:15:46
jamie peacock
Danica's on that.
00:15:46
jamie peacock
sheet She checks for mobile compatibility because she knows I'm pointing people there from Instagram. So that's with Wix, you can go and switch to mobile view and make sure because we were, apparently I'm overpaying for Fusion 360 by like a factor of three.
00:16:01
jamie peacock
was at a customer today.
00:16:02
jamie peacock
They're like, no, they bought it from the local agents. It was like 7,000 Rand. I'm like, pardon fucking me. It's like 14,000, 15,000 Rand. Yeah, put it in the thing. Like really like less than half the price.
00:16:13
jamie peacock
So Danica goes to their website on her phone.
00:16:16
jamie peacock
Website doesn't load properly. Then she scrolls down and the email address is obscured. It's got like the first three letters and then little starter keys at little name of the company. It's like, well, what the fuck?
00:16:30
jamie peacock
Do you not want business? So yeah, no, really weird. So i don't know. We'll see when my customer's brother's back there. I'll go see what he's actually got. Because that seems unreal. I'm happy to pay Autodesk.
00:16:41
jamie peacock
Like, I get the service I want for the product.
00:16:44
jamie peacock
but I don't really care.
00:16:46
Curt
Yeah, yeah, don no doubt.
00:16:47
jamie peacock
Although, yeah, my PC needs some upgrades. 32 gigs of RAM isn't enough, apparently. I used it all today.
00:16:53
Curt
ah I don't know how How?
00:16:54
jamie peacock
To the point that Fusion crashed.
00:16:56
Curt
what were you What kind of crazy stuff were you streaming?
00:16:59
jamie peacock
Full... Full accuracy simulation of a four-hour surfacing toolpath.
00:17:07
Curt
Okay, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
00:17:07
jamie peacock
Use 24 gigs of RAM before it crashed.
00:17:11
Curt
Okay, that adds up. Okay.
00:17:13
jamie peacock
no Not much GPU, though, surprisingly. I thought it would be taxing the GPU a bit more, so just Charles' RAM.
00:17:20
jamie peacock
So I'm thinking, hmm, might need to give myself 64 gigs of RAM for that PC.
00:17:24
Curt
Join the club. We can both have our robots fight each other, our our AI bots, our local AI bots.
00:17:27
jamie peacock
There we go. Well, yeah, that's one of the topics this because I want to take my my work PC, buy a new case that I can add a GPU to the mix. Because ah started I got back into gaming a little bit.
00:17:39
jamie peacock
I'm playing on my Xbox 360 downstairs, like in my lounge where it's warm.
00:17:43
jamie peacock
Because upstairs here where we would do the podcast is fucking cold.
00:17:46
jamie peacock
So I can sit there with a blanket and play Gears of War again. So I was thinking, hmm, kind of want to get a mobile gaming setup, but hell Those things are expensive for what you get.
00:17:58
jamie peacock
So then the thought occurred to me to upgrade my work PC because it's like a generation or two newer than the podcast PC um because this was my gaming rig, but it's a tad outdated.
00:18:08
jamie peacock
So updating that and then it's small enough I carry it into the lounge instead of play games. play on it so i don't know we'll see it's not the highest of priorities yeah nice yeah
00:18:18
Curt
Well, and if you have a quick enough network, like I know I i messed with it on my, because there's Subnautica was a game I loved and I still play Subnautica. um But like I wanted to play it on my phone because I think just want to like laze around and I'm like, I want to play this on my phone.
00:18:33
Curt
And if you have Steam, you can sling to a device um as long as your network is quick enough.
00:18:37
Curt
So your your PC, your big like gaming PC will run it and then it'll just like sling just the visuals and then the control back and forth to your device. And it works surprisingly well.
00:18:45
jamie peacock
Ooh, relatively well, yeah. Because I was thinking of doing something, was thinking of building a ah Raspberry Pi-based RetroPi um handheld
Retro Gaming and Tech Interests
00:18:54
jamie peacock
that I can emulate PS2 on.
00:18:56
jamie peacock
Because the game, there's a few games I want to play that were on PS2. So I could play Need for Speed Most Wanted, the actual good one, not the the remake.
00:19:04
jamie peacock
Underground 2, like just games to sit and do something that isn't sleeping at 8 o'clock at night because it's unpleasant to be not in bed because it's cold as fuck in South Africa right now.
00:19:15
Curt
Yeah, no, I'm with you.
00:19:17
Curt
i'm I'm trying to find things to like, avoid doom scrolling. Like, I've kind of really pared down my social media interaction lately, and it's just, like, my brain is happier.
00:19:24
Curt
Like, I'd rather just go play some, like, old school, like, GTA or something for an hour instead of just doom scroll.
00:19:29
jamie peacock
yeah. YouTube is empty. It's really frustrating. Like, i catch up on all the stuff i want to watch, and then there's there's nothing to watch.
00:19:37
jamie peacock
And I end up going like, oh, cool, it's cold.
00:19:39
jamie peacock
going to go jump in bed and watch YouTube. And then 10 minutes later, I'm bored and I go to sleep. It's really not ideal. And I don't want to play freaking Candy Crush or some shit on my phone. so yeah, don't know. I was sitting on the couch playing Gears of War.
00:19:51
jamie peacock
I've played through Gears of War probably five or six times from when I used to have Xbox back in 2012.
00:19:57
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, playing through it, I'm already like over a third of the way through the game. Like I'm speed running it because I know how to get through all this the tricky sections. So I'm just speed running the game.
00:20:07
jamie peacock
And then I'm trying to find a copy of Portal 2 so that danica I can play ah co-op with that.
00:20:11
Curt
of my favorites. Yeah.
00:20:16
jamie peacock
Because co-op on that is really fun.
00:20:18
jamie peacock
um But yeah, trying to find a copy locally is not super easy. i I don't want to pay more than like, hang on, what is it? Because second hand games are pretty cheap. $3.70.
00:20:28
jamie peacock
ah three dollars seventy
00:20:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I looked it, I can buy Gears of War 2 for $3.70, which I'm probably going to do.
00:20:37
jamie peacock
But if I want to buy a copy of Portal Online, secondhand copy, it's $20. So
00:20:42
Curt
Yeah, OK, that's kind of what I expected.
00:20:43
jamie peacock
so I'm like, ah no, thank you. i will find I will keep going to all the secondhand stores until I find a copy of it. Because that's the thing, like I've got Steam, our own Portal on Steam and Portal 2.
00:20:55
jamie peacock
So it's like, I kind of want to just have a Steam box downstairs that I can ah can play on.
00:21:00
Curt
Yeah, no, I get that.
00:21:01
jamie peacock
And that's, yeah, that's why I was looking at the, what's it, the MSI claw in the, what's the name, the RG LR, because then I can use my Steam library.
00:21:13
jamie peacock
But anyway, back on topic to machining things.
00:21:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, want to build a new desk.
00:21:18
jamie peacock
Talking about machining things ah for the workshop, because my desk is too low when I'm standing and too high when I'm sitting.
00:21:26
jamie peacock
I've got a bar stool and it's just awkward, so i want to make a...
00:21:30
jamie peacock
adjusting desk cnc control desk
00:21:32
Curt
Sick. have you Have you seen the, I follow him on Instagram. I think it's called like Pete, what the hell's it called now? Pete three. Oh, hes weird. First link, Pete squared 23.
00:21:46
Curt
Okay, ah look him up. He built this desk, and it's like it's got an integrated like Gigantor computer. it's got It's all CNC cut, painted, backlit, glass.
00:21:56
Curt
There's copper he's putting into it now, some acrylic pieces. It's so pretty. I've been watching his progress it. He's been working on forever. um You should do that. Just spend like a...
00:22:04
jamie peacock
that's So of the issue I'm running into now is that I have very limited space in my in my office. So I have an 800 millimeter wide desk right now.
00:22:16
jamie peacock
i actually want pare that down to like 650. six fifty So keyboard and mouse and no space for anything else. Because if there's space for other things, it just gets stuff stacked on it.
00:22:25
jamie peacock
So i want to make, I want to put my PC above, my printer above, and then two monitors and keyboard mouse.
00:22:30
jamie peacock
That can go up and down and is comfortable to work at that I can try and not have a pile of crap on my desk. Because that, yeah, that's a major issue.
00:22:39
jamie peacock
Like even the workbench as you shuffle past the LK, the thought occurred to me today to take that out of the workshop and put in some shelves against that wall that are bit narrower and put that workshop and that workbench in my assembly room in the house.
00:22:55
jamie peacock
Because then it's it's going to be used for assembly and not be used to store random crap on it.
00:23:02
jamie peacock
i can makete I can cut a piece off the end, bolt it to the wall for my mini lathe, and then it's big enough for the mini lathe and that's it. Because yeah I'm horrible with just yeah horizontal spaces and I'm not off friends.
00:23:16
Curt
it's It's an easy way to set something down.
00:23:16
jamie peacock
Everything just gets full.
00:23:17
Curt
And then, yeah, exactly.
00:23:19
Curt
It's also, yeah, stuff everywhere.
00:23:19
jamie peacock
No, that's a huge problem for me.
00:23:22
jamie peacock
Like, I'm lazy as hell. put it down and, yeah. What was it the other day? Don't be less lazy. Make it more difficult to do it the wrong way.
00:23:30
jamie peacock
Or make it easier to do it the right way. Something to that effect.
00:23:33
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah.
00:23:36
Curt
Yeah, it is the way.
00:23:37
jamie peacock
um yeah ah so i' see we still Oh, did you see my probe cover?
Innovation in Workshop Tools
00:23:43
Curt
I don't know. i don't I don't think I did.
00:23:45
jamie peacock
Okay, hang on. I'm sending it to you right now because I want your opinion on this.
00:23:49
jamie peacock
ah So my probe was being proby again and getting full of coolant even though I have blast on it.
00:23:56
jamie peacock
And I needed to do tool break detection on the one program that I was running.
00:24:02
jamie peacock
So I made, okay. Sorry, it looks like you're getting a video.
00:24:07
jamie peacock
There we go.
00:24:09
jamie peacock
just because I don't have a picture of it, apparently. um Anyway, yeah, we needed to change over to run probing, and the thing was just going beep the whole time because coolant had gotten in and again because the one the seal that Dave made me is tearing every time I service it, so I had it open again, poured acerpropyl down its throat, shook it out, and it's working again, but then i was like, no, I need to stop the the like blatant splashing, so I laser cut and bent that little cover.
00:24:37
jamie peacock
It should have gone through now.
00:24:40
Curt
Oh, there it is. Now it's just popped through, yeah.
00:24:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's super subtle, hard to see.
00:24:42
Curt
Oh, cute. Yeah, I can barely tell what you did there.
00:24:43
jamie peacock
Yeah. yeah So it bolts into one of the... I put a shorter grab screw and then it bolts into one of the grab screw holes on the side.
00:24:52
Curt
Nice, nice, nice, nice. Yeah.
00:24:53
jamie peacock
Yeah. And then covers covers the thing from major, like, full facial action, but still fully functional.
00:25:00
jamie peacock
Like, yeah.
00:25:02
jamie peacock
Super simple.
00:25:03
jamie peacock
Heats it up. Put two pieces of MDF over it. Heats it with a heat gun and then bent it. So it looks looks really cool.
00:25:10
jamie peacock
But yeah, put that on and seems to have solved the problem.
00:25:14
Curt
Yeah, that's the same game I played.
00:25:15
Curt
is just to, like you said, just keep the ah keep the giant splashing away from...
00:25:16
jamie peacock
Yeah. Keep the... Yeah. Keep the bukkake off of it.
00:25:21
Curt
was going to go down that road, but I was like, I'll leave this be.
00:25:24
jamie peacock
so i've got to I've got seven nozzles in my machine. It's a proper Bukkake.
00:25:32
Curt
you got You got to do that meme with like all the like all seven nozzles and then just like one little part in the middle.
00:25:40
jamie peacock
yeah and then I bought, I'm sure I spoke to you about the insulation on mar and my doors.
00:25:45
Curt
I think so, yeah, you're trying to make the steel doors less of a reasoning.
00:25:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, went to install that on Saturday. measured it, took all the pieces, cut them to the right width, they don't fit.
00:25:58
jamie peacock
And not because I've cut them twice and they're still too small, it's because they're too fucking thick. Because some smart dick looked, oh, it's 32mm tubing, forgetting that we inset the panels, so I actually only have 25mm of gap, and the doors are right against each other, so they don't fit.
00:26:15
jamie peacock
So I have to buy more insulation. That's only 15 thick and glue that in.
00:26:20
jamie peacock
And then this one, this insulation will get used elsewhere.
00:26:24
jamie peacock
I have some spots that needs to be used, so it'll get used elsewhere. But yeah, I was a little bit frustrated when I discovered that.
00:26:31
Curt
Yeah, it sounds annoying.
00:26:31
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's what happens don't measure things properly.
00:26:36
Curt
Yeah, at least it'll pay <unk>ll pay off in the winter and it'll pay off in the summer, it should be okay.
00:26:40
jamie peacock
Well, that's it. Like I need to get it done because it will make a big difference, especially now we're going into our windy season.
00:26:45
jamie peacock
So I want to get the doors insulated and the bottoms closed up and potentially the frickin' butcher curtain in so that I can have the door open but not have the wind blowing through my workshop.
00:26:54
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:55
jamie peacock
Because currently in the sun, it's friggin' lovely. But as soon as you're the sun and there's a bit of a breeze, ah, no, it's brutally cold.
00:27:04
jamie peacock
And yeah, July, August is our windy season.
00:27:06
jamie peacock
Like every day, friggin' gale force winds for a month and a half.
00:27:11
Curt
I hate that. That drives me nuts. There's a, there's a town like ah Southern of us, uh, left bridge, Southern Alberta.
00:27:17
Curt
It's just known for just crazy wind. Just the way it's designed, the way it's positioned geola or geographically, just tons of wind. Like people literally go crazy there. They move there and then they go insane because it's like, you know, 60 mile an hour wind, like all the time.
00:27:29
jamie peacock
That's en insane, yeah.
00:27:31
jamie peacock
Now, we're on top of a hill as well, which doesn't help. Like, every night the wind blows, yeah.
00:27:31
Curt
And you just like, yeah.
00:27:34
Curt
Oh yeah. That hurts.
00:27:36
jamie peacock
To the point that I was thinking of getting a wind turbine, because that's how much the wind blows.
00:27:40
jamie peacock
Like, every night. So, yeah.
00:27:43
jamie peacock
But anyway anyway, we're getting into our windy season, which is bad for DLGs, but good for building them.
00:27:48
Curt
I guess, yeah. Yeah.
00:27:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, because I have plans for an Orca 1.4, which I'm trying not to build.
00:27:55
jamie peacock
That Roger's a bad influence. Dude, son, dude, no. so yeah, and I mean sent you a message this week to say I was thinking of building a Core XY router.
00:27:55
Curt
Side projects out the wazoo.
00:28:04
Curt
Oh, I saw that, yeah.
00:28:04
jamie peacock
Horizontal router, yeah. Because I have the motors, I have the spindles, all I need is the linear guards, and I'll have the plate after these molds, because I ordered a spare plate. I'll have the plate to do it as well.
00:28:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, like...
00:28:17
Curt
Yeah, now just gotta somehow conjure up the time. yeah
00:28:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's not the end of the world. just to Just stop doing work and machine fun shit.
00:28:25
Curt
Totally, yeah. That's always a good recipe.
00:28:27
jamie peacock
That's a great recipe.
00:28:28
Curt
i I want to do that all the time.
00:28:30
jamie peacock
Yes. That's great fun. um Yeah, I'm busy now. We finally got a production job that I made samples for November. The guys are finally looking at going into production on it. Wanted of some small tweaks.
00:28:43
jamie peacock
So I sent them a quote and i'm like, cool.
00:28:44
jamie peacock
When you pay for it, you can have your samples. and Until then, you ain't getting nothing out of me. And you best not come with, oh, can we have another 20? It's going to be you order 100 or you go away. Because I have to, like 20 and 100, I need to be building a fixture and using the correct tools for the job. Like I can make 10 of them with what I have, but to meet the the cost goals I have in mind, i need to buy a bunch of new tools.
00:29:08
jamie peacock
Like I need a 25 millimeter U-drill. Turns out you can't get bigger than 25 with a 25 millimeter shank. I tried. um
00:29:16
jamie peacock
Because I'm going to put a 25 millimeter U-drill in the LK.
00:29:22
jamie peacock
Drilling aluminum.
00:29:23
Curt
I guess, yeah, yeah.
00:29:23
jamie peacock
I want to basically come in, punch the center of the part out, and then I can drop in.
00:29:27
jamie peacock
There's no helixing wasting my time. So I can just drop straight in to do the adaptive clear.
00:29:32
jamie peacock
um That goes from, I think it's going to take like six or seven seconds to drill the hole. Because it's not deep, but to helix in is 30 seconds. So it cuts cycle time.
00:29:43
jamie peacock
And when we're doing four at a time on a pallet, it starts to add up very, very quickly. So our plan is to have those, well, four-piece flow.
00:29:51
jamie peacock
So every time I load a pallet and hit go, four finished parts come off. So we do op one, op two, and then op three.
00:29:57
jamie peacock
um But yeah, busy trying to optimize how to how to go about that. So great fun. So I see you're out of screws. And then after that, we're going to go into some Q&A stuff.
00:30:08
Curt
Ooh, yeah, we actually have some this time.
00:30:09
jamie peacock
Yes. Yes, we have a bunch.
00:30:11
Curt
um Yeah. So this last batch, as I'm now like flesh out of screws, like I have none and I should, I should order some. That would be the, the intelligent decision to do just to like, you know, make sure I'm not, don't have my backup against the wall, but I don't want to.
00:30:25
Curt
um Like screws are kind of expensive. Like by the time they hit my shop here, they're like, costs me, you know, like, three, $400 to order, you know, a pack of a hundred screws comes in itty bitty little packages.
00:30:38
Curt
It's kind I'm just like, Oh, I can like, can I make them for cheaper? Probably not. Do I have the titanium to do it? Yes. Like i always have off cuts that'll work perfectly for screws.
00:30:46
Curt
I'm like, build a pallet. That's I want to do is I want to have it in a pallet so that at the end of the day, I just throw the screw pallet on and I hit go and it takes whatever, four hours
Manufacturing and Design Workflow
00:30:54
Curt
to run. I can go make supper. I can go do my things.
00:30:56
Curt
So yeah, have 19 different tool paths. I'm going to try yet for that. all those tools about like two months ago that I just haven't gone around to yet. But now I'm up against the wall.
00:31:04
Curt
So now I have to do it. So once I get these pens out, I'm going to, yeah, I'm going piss with the screws and see if I can get a reliable recipe going.
00:31:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, now you have to actually. OK.
00:31:12
Curt
And I don't know. If I can't, maybe I'll, i don't know. I don't know what i'll I don't know. I don't want to go to broaching. I just don't like the idea of broaching. If I can maybe undersize.
00:31:19
jamie peacock
Just make them flat head screws.
00:31:23
Curt
Totally, right? Yeah, that that everyone would love that. Just a nice big flathead screw.
00:31:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, big flat head screw.
00:31:27
Curt
It's the... the worst driver on the planet. um Yeah. i Maybe if I could find like an undersized broach, I wouldn't mind doing that, like broach it and then just clean the wall up.
00:31:38
Curt
But don't want that.
00:31:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, i think it's brooches.
00:31:39
Curt
I don't want to play that game.
00:31:39
jamie peacock
You don't know where they broach. That's the problem.
00:31:42
Curt
Yeah, you can't clock them. So I'm just like, brain
00:31:44
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, you say that, but you could clock them.
00:31:52
jamie peacock
Put a stick on the side of the brooch.
00:31:54
jamie peacock
Have it spin till it hits something.
00:31:56
jamie peacock
There we go. Clocked. Like, if it's done and it works, it isn't done.
00:31:57
Curt
Sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:00
jamie peacock
Like, you could make a plan.
00:32:01
Curt
Totally, yeah. And do I need to... Yeah, there's no need to clock them, but I just i want it.
00:32:07
Curt
i Yeah, whatever. So anyways, I think I'll be able to make it work.
00:32:11
Curt
Like i said, even if it takes even if it takes a million years, um I don't um care.
00:32:11
jamie peacock
I'm sure you'll be able to get it to work.
00:32:15
Curt
Like, the machine, we're we're talking right now, the machine isn't doing anything.
00:32:16
jamie peacock
It's running at night, yeah.
00:32:19
Curt
It sits all night, as I do now.
00:32:21
Curt
It sits all weekend. It just gobloods of machine time, which is like,
00:32:25
jamie peacock
For a change, we're talking and my machine is running. Because normally it's off, yes, it's molding, so yeah.
00:32:28
Curt
Ooh, right. Yeah. yeah
00:32:31
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's going, me knee you ne and then it's going to go to half millimeter ball nose and carry on doing that shit.
00:32:42
Curt
yeah Yeah. That's my, that's my goal that we have to do the podcast.
00:32:44
jamie peacock
But yeah, tool break. I assume you're going to run tool break detection.
00:32:49
Curt
Yeah, of course. And then, uh, I'd have to have to move the podcast from sitting right in front of the machine to, i don't know, I'll sit my closet and do it or something.
00:32:55
Curt
So it's not just painlessly loud.
00:32:56
jamie peacock
There we go.
00:32:58
jamie peacock
Yeah. no um i So I've been wearing my new headphones and now my workshop's loud. Because those things cut the world out.
00:33:04
jamie peacock
And now when I don't wear them, I'm like, oh no, this is horrible. I hate this.
00:33:09
jamie peacock
I'm used to the quiet now. feel like an autistic kid. um Now I gotta take them off and i get upset that the world is loud.
00:33:16
jamie peacock
Because I mean, those things i ran for, today was day three.
00:33:20
jamie peacock
The third day in a row that I've been listening to stuff most of the day. And they're not flat yet. They're on charge because I'm going use them tomorrow. But like they haven't run out of battery yet.
00:33:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, no they they really, they do the trick.
00:33:33
Curt
I know I've wanted to, speaking of like spectrum-y behavior, I wanted to buy, you ever seen those, like they're called like loops or something like that.
00:33:40
Curt
They're like earplugs that you put in, but they let some sound through and you can just wear them. Like they're meant to be just worn like out around the town.
00:33:46
Curt
And they just, they just drop the decibels down by like, you know, whatever, 15 decibels.
00:33:50
Curt
I was like, I kind of want a pair of those. Just still because i the world is loud.
00:33:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's...
00:33:53
Curt
Like the world is, i like quiet. I just like,
00:33:55
jamie peacock
Well, I mean, I'm used to now.
00:33:57
jamie peacock
I run them with, what's active listening mode. I drop it to, like, level one or off, entirely off.
00:34:04
jamie peacock
And entirely off, you can't. You can hear the machines are running, but you can't hear anything. You put it up one level, then you can hear the tool changes and stuff happening. So, like, if I'm running a first part, then I'll put the volume I'll put the pass-through up so that I can hear what's going on and then back down and go sit in my office and be quiet.
00:34:22
jamie peacock
Like, yeah.
00:34:23
Curt
I have my, I have my headphones and I'll go for a walk with my dog at like one of two in the morning and we'll go through the forest, like the dark forest in the night and I'll crank it.
00:34:31
Curt
So it has like pass through, but it's amplified.
00:34:33
jamie peacock
Yeah. Oh, nice.
00:34:34
Curt
So then all you, all you hear is the sound of like this, the sticks under your feet and the leaves rustling.
00:34:35
jamie peacock
That's terrifying.
00:34:39
Curt
And I'm just like, just sweating profusely walking through the forest being like, something is going to eat me. ah
00:34:45
jamie peacock
jeez. Yeah, I think we're going to go. Well, we were meant to walk the dogs this afternoon, but i was doing mold stuff and I have toads on the back of the truck to take shavings.
00:34:52
jamie peacock
So tomorrow afternoon, I think we're going to shoot down and go walk the dogs quickly.
00:34:57
jamie peacock
During the week when no one's there. Because then we can let them off lead a bit and let them run.
00:35:01
jamie peacock
It's quite interesting to see how much bigger their circles get when there's two of them. So normally we put Cana off lead. She won't go out of sight. You put Drax and Cana off lead and then that circle doubles in size. Because they've got backup now.
00:35:13
jamie peacock
But then I'll throw rocks into the bush.
00:35:14
jamie peacock
And then you watch them try and get whatever's in the bush. And you just keep throwing rocks.
00:35:18
jamie peacock
and you just check these dogs pouncing on the grass. Super cute. Yeah.
00:35:24
jamie peacock
ahja we went to ja We went last week. It was actually was quite nice. But yeah, anyway.
00:35:29
Curt
Cool. Well, should we get...
00:35:29
jamie peacock
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00:35:34
jamie peacock
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00:35:53
jamie peacock
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00:36:07
jamie peacock
Also, the podcast is available on Apple Music. Spotify and YouTube. YouTube, you just need to search Jamie DCO. It's on my YouTube channel and then that is what it's named. So I had James or Freaky Climber from the Taps and Patients just called asking me about that today.
00:36:24
jamie peacock
So thought I'd quickly address that. He has now subscribed to me because I told him just go search Jamie DCO and you'll find it.
00:36:31
jamie peacock
So anyway, but we got some questions. um I sent Kurt the super long one. Let to me, that is from Redisaw.com.
00:36:41
jamie peacock
Do i actually have...
00:36:42
Curt
Yeah, I've actually interacted with that guy a few times.
00:36:43
jamie peacock
Sorry, one second.
00:36:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, I don't see his name on yet, though. Anyway, so we got... late Let's deal that one because it's a nice long one. And then we've got a couple other questions that came through on my post as well, on my story.
00:36:58
jamie peacock
So the question, this is going to be a killer to read.
00:37:01
jamie peacock
Wish me luck. Okay, question for the podcast. How do you guys keep track of design versions, revs, CAD files? or NCAT files, do you use a logbook or other method as a single source of truth?
00:37:15
jamie peacock
ah The ADHD brains like mine, ready, Saul, and ours, I assume, ah seem to be less wired for this. I'm considering implementing a PFEP, plan for every part, in a binder with notes,
00:37:33
jamie peacock
it's a um yeah He's a product-based manufacturer, not a job shop. So product data integrity and process control slash improvements is essential. Kurt, what are your thoughts?
00:37:46
Curt
i trust the overlord in the sky and basically throw everything I do into fusion and just cross my fingers that they don't decide to just snake it away from me from a solar flare or something.
00:37:59
Curt
If I have something crazy important, I'll back it up. But for the most part, or like I'll write down dimensions, some critical features or something. But for the most part, I just treat fusion as my as my like rev. And if it's a major rev, I won't rely on Fusion's auto-versioning.
00:38:12
Curt
like I'll break it out. um and ill i'll break it out
00:38:15
Curt
Every time I make a massive change, I'll break it out. Just because it gets too confusing when you're like, I'm on rev 476 of whatever. so like keep I think even my pens, I'm on rev 3. And then that'll be like version whatever, 390.
00:38:28
Curt
Because every time you do a minor change, it saves it.
00:38:31
Curt
Yeah, that's how that's all I do it. I just trust i trust everything there. I leave it all there. that's my That's my gospel. If it's wrong there, it's wrong everywhere else. or else Because if i if I try to keep it like a note copy of it, I just i won't update it enough. And then i get and you start questioning what's right. So that's that's my single source of truth.
00:38:47
Curt
ah but How about you, Jamie?
00:38:48
jamie peacock
um I live my life by four simple letters, a YOLO. No, actually, by JURP. So I have... a J-E-R-P, J-Spec-E-R-P, that I built out on Google Sheets a few years ago.
00:39:01
jamie peacock
so like critical setups, they loaded in there. Critical stuff, like regarding the case gauges I make, the rerollers I make, all those dimensions, like the critical things I'm trying to hit get loaded into JRP along with... um Yeah, along with any setup-related stuff. So i'll take pictures it's got provision take pictures, list out tool numbers.
00:39:22
jamie peacock
There's a few things in there. don't use it that often anymore. When it comes to production stuff on the Emco, I have got my tolerance drawings that my customer does not own. And they've got all the tolerance call-outs. They're all being laminated and are on a clipboard because that's recurring production. There are no version changes there.
00:39:39
jamie peacock
They are the part. Yeah. But there's call outs on there. It's typical GD&T style stuff where the model says one thing, the label says something else. So like it may be 3.7 millimeters, but in reality, it's 3.7 plus zero minus comma one.
00:39:55
jamie peacock
And I hold it in that range. So I've got drawings for all the re occurring the recurring stuff and gauges and processes for all the recurring stuff that I do. And then like, for instance, anchor points, we've got the process boards now with regards to versioning there.
00:40:12
jamie peacock
There's drawings for everything. And as we go batch to batch, we're refining what the required tolerances and things that need to be called out actually are. Because that does, as you dial in your process, that changes.
00:40:23
jamie peacock
So we're in the process of issuing new setup. That's of the few times actually use a setup sheet is on the anchor point bodies. Because the body uses 15 of my 16 tools in my carousel.
00:40:37
jamie peacock
to manufacture up two of the body.
00:40:39
jamie peacock
Up one is a whole nother set of freaking tools. So I do setup sheets. one of the few times I actually use Fusion setup sheets. And then they get archived. I mean, the ones I printed are out of date now because I changed one thing.
00:40:50
jamie peacock
So now they're out of date and I have to print them again. But yeah, that Fusion is my source of truth for a lot of things. But if it's a e the product is in a frozen state or the part is in a frozen state, then I will print and laminate a drawing for it.
00:41:07
jamie peacock
And that becomes my my master thing with all the tolerances that are required because, and i mean, that's in fusion anyway, but like my fusion model is not necessarily correct to the drawing because, yeah, reasons.
00:41:22
Curt
Yeah. Well, when it comes to like processes to like things that I can't just have, like, I mean, you can write, and you can note with them in fusion. And sometimes I do, but I don't, I don't find that super effective.
00:41:32
Curt
ah The one thing I've really liked is I'll take a video of it.
00:41:33
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:35
Curt
um Like, especially if it's a specific process that I do and I have a, like affinity to get wrong, I'll just, I'll video it of me doing it. And then I'll load it up in YouTube as a private video. And like, I have a whole host of private videos, um, in YouTube just called like shop process videos.
00:41:49
Curt
And then I can refer to them and be like, Oh, how the hell did I do this? And look it and be like, Oh yeah, that's how you did it. Cause I don't know. I've, for me that, that works well. I can scrub through it. don't know. They're usually not very long, so it's pretty easy for me to do it that way.
00:42:02
Curt
So that's the game I play.
00:42:02
jamie peacock
Yeah, you forget the way you you did it. Like, especially with small things.
00:42:05
Curt
A hundred percent, hundred percent. Even if you do it a thousand times. Yep.
00:42:09
jamie peacock
Like, even now, setting up these, the... the aim assist that I made this week. I load the program and I read through the program see what tool numbers I used because it's not documented anyway.
00:42:19
jamie peacock
I know what each tool is. It's just their numbers vary because it's me and it's a ganglaid.
00:42:24
jamie peacock
So it gets changed every time. um But I loaded it up, tweaked the program a little bit and be ready to run in next to no time because now I know where everything needs to go because I've run probably six or seven thousand in these stupid things same thing with the the diesel sensor tops like i know how to set it up because the parts catcher goes between the tool post and the other tool post and that sets the distance that there's enough clearance for the parting off operation because ah the bar does not fit between the parting blade and the uh the threading tool you have to machine it first if you want to part it off because it doesn't fit like a 30 mil bar doesn't fit between the gap but once the part's machined you can part off a 30 mil bar
00:43:05
Curt
Well, that's where you kind of run into the like the nicest niceties of like like me running a product business, whereas I have like a process, but like I'm doing it so frequently that same thing.
00:43:17
Curt
like You know, like oh once this is in, like you just it just it kind of plays on itself and you don't have to
00:43:23
Curt
Like if I didn't do it for six months, I would forget a ton of the steps. But the fact that I'm just refreshing my brain every month, it's kind of easy to remember.
00:43:29
Curt
And it's also kind of easy to do stupid things too. So it's like, it's a double-edged sword. It's like, I remember how to do this, but it's so dumb, dumb that maybe I forget one crucial step and then totally F myself.
00:43:39
jamie peacock
But that's also Trello. You can upload documents to as well. I think Pearson was talking about this where they upload all their um their manufacturing drawings to Trello. So if one of the guys wants wants a copy of the drawing, they go to Trello and grab it. They're not having to spin up Fusion to go and get a drawing.
00:43:54
jamie peacock
Like the actual frozen designs are all in Trello.
00:43:59
jamie peacock
I've got a PC in my workshop for Trello that I definitely use all the time. Um, yeah, it's, I don't think I've turned it on in like two months. The idea is that um I load what needs to be done then I can keep track of it. But in reality, even turning the computer on is too many steps for me.
00:44:17
jamie peacock
And it's also being one man in the shop.
00:44:19
jamie peacock
It's not, uh, processes aren't as critical, but your, uh, your head is not a to-do list either.
00:44:28
Curt
Yeah, and like, same thing. Like, i I keep all my, like, financial ordering stuff, all the inventory tracking. I keep that on Airtable um just because it makes sense to me.
00:44:37
Curt
And I'm just, I'm so sick of being subscriptioned to death. Like, I just, I try to, like, I try to not, like, yeah, do I want to use Trello?
00:44:45
Curt
Sure. Do I want another, like, thing that I have
00:44:46
jamie peacock
The trailer's free.
00:44:48
Curt
Or sure, like whatever, um insert whatever weird kind of, like there's a million cool options out there and it's like, okay, and for $12.99, you can just like get, like, I don't, I just want, like, can I put this in Excel?
00:44:59
Curt
Like, just not worry about it, have it offline and just, and so that's kind of why I like Airtable.
00:45:02
jamie peacock
Well, I mean, you know.
00:45:04
Curt
I mean, it's not, it's online, but like, it's just, I just want to, totally, yeah.
00:45:07
jamie peacock
Well, that's we use Google Sheets and Google Docs for, yeah for my business ran off Google Sheets for years before I went over to SlowBooks. um
00:45:17
jamie peacock
And even mar the anchor point, the the process document is a Google Sheet. We print it out every time we do a batch because we tweak stuff. And then in there, we've got a stock to order things. So we do, when we're done assembling a batch,
00:45:30
jamie peacock
We'll go through, okay, how many of these O-rings are left? How many of these screws are left? Let's update this thing. How many are we doing in this batch? Okay, how many parts do we need to order to be able to make the batch plus two two complete units?
00:45:41
jamie peacock
So we have a little bit of a buffer, but we're not sitting on 5,000 screws when we actually only need 120 screws.
00:45:47
jamie peacock
And yeah, that, again, just in Google Docs, Danica prints it, comes there, writes in all the numbers, types it back into the documents, it updates, and we know what to order.
00:45:57
Curt
Yeah. And honestly, like if I wanted, like what I wanted, do like I use, I use Google sheets and I use like app scripts and all that stuff.
00:46:03
Curt
Cause it pairs so nicely together.
00:46:05
Curt
What I want to do is take all my air table stuff and then roll that in. What are you phone is things I'm talking to it. Um, I want to roll all that stuff from air table into like, into app scripts or like write my own app for Cause it's just like, I want less things to worry about.
00:46:19
Curt
Like I want the less software I can have running and the less stupid note things like the better.
00:46:25
jamie peacock
So, do you do you have a G Suite account?
00:46:30
jamie peacock
Okay, then you can use AppSheets.
00:46:33
Curt
Yeah, that's what I use, yeah.
00:46:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, okay. Yeah, AppSheets is great.
00:46:35
jamie peacock
Like, that's what I built my yeah ERP on.
00:46:38
jamie peacock
It's frigging amazing. It took me probably half a day to build out, and then I never looked at it again. ah think Danica added some functionality for me a while ago, but I can't i can't actually remember.
00:46:47
Curt
Yeah, and I think the only reason I like, ah ah I mean, obviously i started with Airtable because it was easy and I didn't know about app sheets at the time.
00:46:55
Curt
But then like like my phone, whoopsie-daisy, I'm dropping shit here. um Like when I go to the store and buy something, like I have it set up so that I can just use a camera and take a picture of the receipt, take a picture of the product. It automatically loads it into my Airtable.
00:47:05
Curt
Like it calculates all the jazz for me. It's like, that's just, it's so convenient. Like I don't have to keep paper around and like just dumb stuff like that.
00:47:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no, 100%.
00:47:13
Curt
It's just like, yeah, just the easier you make things
00:47:14
jamie peacock
I'm meant to be doing that with QuickBooks, but I don't.
00:47:19
Curt
Yeah, QuickBooks can suck a big old hairy whatever.
00:47:22
Curt
I hate that software.
00:47:24
jamie peacock
It is tedious as hell to use, but anyway, being counter-couser must use it.
00:47:28
jamie peacock
I don't want to go to jail, so I'll listen to him.
00:47:30
Curt
Fair enough. Yeah, fair enough.
00:47:31
jamie peacock
Like, if that's what he wants to use, let him use it.
00:47:35
jamie peacock
Danica actually needs to scan my slips tomorrow for last month before the bean counter asks me for them again.
00:47:41
jamie peacock
Because she scans all my slips. So in the in my truck, we've got two folders, one for VAT, one for non-VAT. Come end of the month, she stands at the scanner, loads them, and just makes a multi-page document scanning them in. Takes her all of 15 minutes.
00:47:53
jamie peacock
But in her mind, it's this like four-day endeavor that she needs to yeah brace for and plan for.
00:47:59
jamie peacock
So getting her to actually do it's a little bit tedious.
00:48:02
Curt
Well, that's the thing is i i want it fast enough so that when the receipt is printing out of the machine, I can quickly just open my phone, take a picture and throw it away.
00:48:02
jamie peacock
But, y'all.
00:48:09
Curt
Like I want it no barrier for me to do it or else I won't do it. And then it happens sometimes.
00:48:14
Curt
Then I have like six receipts sitting on my desk and I'm like, oh, then they're hanging in my brain and they're taking up space that I could be using to think about, you know, fun things. And there's like, yeah.
00:48:24
jamie peacock
All these stupid things eat up eat have capacity. Yeah.
00:48:27
Curt
You got to wear all the hats. Yeah, exactly. It's like...
00:48:28
jamie peacock
Yeah. So we did get some other questions and i put my phone on silent for when my mother-in-law inevitably phones me. um Okay, Freaky Climber, why is the podcast not on YouTube already?
00:48:41
jamie peacock
It is, James. I already sent you a link. Then, oh, okay, we'll do Joshua from Firmworks sends in a question. This is a great question. ah Where did I put my adjustable spanner?
00:48:54
jamie peacock
I've been looking for it for 15 minutes. Please help.
00:48:59
jamie peacock
Great question. It's exactly where you put it.
00:49:02
jamie peacock
You put it somewhere so safe that you can't even find it.
00:49:05
Curt
you see the new black vices he got? I'm assuming he got that black coating nailed. They look so pretty.
00:49:11
jamie peacock
They look so good. I've been chatting to them about them.
00:49:13
jamie peacock
Like, they look really, really good.
00:49:15
jamie peacock
Because I need to, don't need to, I want to get a self-centering. A big self-centering or two for running the anchor point bodies and pallets.
00:49:22
jamie peacock
Because currently, if the material stock changes size, my part shifts and then doesn't clean up the one side. It's really frustrating. So want to get self-centering. But he doesn't have stock currently. It's a bit annoying.
00:49:36
jamie peacock
Because I want rather support him than China.
00:49:40
Curt
absolutely absolutely oh yeah
00:49:40
jamie peacock
Yeah. um Okay, and then 2SM Performance, also known as John.
00:49:48
jamie peacock
Sorry, things are being weird on my screen. Okay, let me not be autistic on the show. um
00:49:55
jamie peacock
Have you guys made the full transition to Heatrink or do you only have them for finishing? I have them for none because no one sells Heatrink locally. And Kurt's thoughts on Heatrink should be interesting.
00:50:07
Curt
Yeah, they can also line up to suck that big, hairy, whatever, insert item you want there. I'm not, I mean, I, if I bought some really fancy heat shrink tooling, I'm sure I'd be impressed with it, but finding heat shrink tooling at a one eighth size.
00:50:21
Curt
Cause like most of my tools are one eighth or three sixteenths. Um, there's like two companies that make it Haas and merit tool is the only two companies that know that make long gauge length one eighth heat shrink.
00:50:30
Curt
And everyone basically says, don't heat shrink one eighth. Cause it's annoying. I agree with them now.
00:50:34
Curt
It is. Um, yeah, I'm not, happy I'm not happy with the, uh, with the, with the tolerance I get out of it.
00:50:37
jamie peacock
The runners.
00:50:38
Curt
So yeah, the run out is terrible.
00:50:38
jamie peacock
Yeah. But I think also on and a half inch or quarter inch, it's a different situation.
00:50:44
Curt
Probably very much so. Yeah.
00:50:45
jamie peacock
And I know John's running it on a half inch and getting pretty good results on it.
00:50:50
Curt
Totally. Yeah. I think you would, and ah it'd be way easier to heat shrink half inch.
00:50:53
Curt
And like, if you're out, if you're, if you're running out sub 10th on a half inch, you're happy. If I'm running, if I'm running half a 10th on a you know, a 15th out tool, I'm like, this is useless.
00:51:02
jamie peacock
It's gone. Yeah.
00:51:02
Curt
Like I'm going to be blowing shit up.
00:51:04
Curt
Yeah. So I'm not pleased with it.
00:51:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no. Oh, yes. On the tool holder front, I retired one of my ER holders.
00:51:12
Curt
Oh, like forcefully retired it or just retired because you...
00:51:15
jamie peacock
The body of the holder cracked a while ago.
00:51:19
jamie peacock
But it had a drill in it, so I didn't give a shit. um But then I needed the collet for a tap, so then I retired the holder. But again, for for what it cost me of a whopping $29, it can go in the bin.
00:51:34
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, it's drilled thousands of 2.5mm holes, so it's fine.
00:51:34
Curt
So cheap. So cheap. I don't...
00:51:43
jamie peacock
It can be retired now.
00:51:45
Curt
oh godspeed little call or Godspeed, little holder.
00:51:48
Curt
You did you did your your solid.
00:51:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, so i want I want to buy a DC12 holder.
00:51:54
Curt
Ooh, that's getting a little bit bigger.
00:51:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, dc twelve so I want to buy a DC6, DC12, and a DC4. um But yeah, trying to be a responsible adult and pay bills and things. It's horrible.
00:52:05
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, it gets in the way.
00:52:06
jamie peacock
No, no. it's It gets very much in the way. But it's fine.
00:52:11
jamie peacock
We'll sell a bunch of anchor points and then can buy fancy tools.
00:52:15
Curt
Yeah, people do that so that we can talk about things.
00:52:16
jamie peacock
At least that's that is the plan.
00:52:19
Curt
Buy Jamie's anchor point so we can keep talking about things on the podcast.
00:52:24
jamie peacock
Well, no, regardless of whether I sell them, we're doing another 40 episodes because that's how many we paid for already.
00:52:29
jamie peacock
So yeah, no pressure guys. um Yeah. ah I don't know if you've listened to the last two taps and patients. I think the one came out on early access today.
00:52:40
Curt
I think I got everything but the last one. i got the i i'm
00:52:43
jamie peacock
One, two, two.
00:52:45
Curt
I'm three quarters way through the one um ah with Justin.
00:52:48
jamie peacock
With Justin.
00:52:50
jamie peacock
Okay, cool. So you haven't got to the fun bits right at the end. At 1 hour 47, I think.
00:52:56
jamie peacock
Or 37. 1 hour 37. Okay, I've actually got the video clip I'm going probably post it on Instagram in the next day or two.
00:52:58
Curt
I don't think I'm quite there yet. No, no.
00:53:03
jamie peacock
Of the three of them gushing over the anchor points.
00:53:07
jamie peacock
Because all three of them have anchor points.
00:53:10
Curt
Nice. So they got their bribes.
00:53:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, so they were...
00:53:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, they got their braubs. And then Anchor Point came up again in episode 122 of Tabs and Patients. And for anyone who listens to us and not them, please go listen to them.
00:53:22
jamie peacock
um And if you've got any work for Subtract, just put us as the affiliate so because we have an affiliate thing.
00:53:28
jamie peacock
So if anyone listening to us gives Subtract any work, you can select us from the affiliate links when you are checking out. Then we get a small kickback as well.
00:53:40
Curt
these things, all these things I don't, I'm not aware of.
00:53:41
jamie peacock
Cross promoting. Yeah, no, no, this is, ah we we're becoming influencers. Oh, whatever happened with the but becoming an influencer and getting vacuum cleaners and things?
00:53:51
Curt
told me to go fuck myself basically.
00:53:53
jamie peacock
I did that, okay.
00:53:54
Curt
Yeah. Most, ah well, some of them came back with like, sure, but you have to do this and this. I'm like, nah, I'm not doing that. Sorry. Like you, you, you came barking on my door.
00:54:02
Curt
I just asked for the world and wanted to see what came about.
00:54:06
jamie peacock
No, but I think there's a lot of that where up-and-coming channels will give them, like, whatever they ask for just to get free stuff.
00:54:14
jamie peacock
And that, yeah.
00:54:15
Curt
Yeah. It's like, if it's in line with what I'm kind of interested in, sure. But like, and then I get a bunch more for like some weird flashlights and all kinds like, I'm not interested in this.
00:54:23
Curt
Like, no, you're garbage. You're slinging garbage. I don't want to, no, I'll pass.
00:54:26
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, exactly. Like, you don't want your your name associated to that cuck.
00:54:32
Curt
Yeah. I mean, it's fun.
00:54:32
jamie peacock
Because you young you've done a...
00:54:35
Curt
Well, it'd be fun to do it in like a totally realistic sense to be like, here's this weird, but like if it doesn't pair, it's like, i'm not gonna.
00:54:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, 100%.
Business Strategies and Challenges
00:54:43
jamie peacock
Oh, speaking of fancy things that you make, have you tried machining resin yet?
00:54:48
Curt
I have not. No, I have just been doing silly product.
00:54:52
Curt
I, every day i want to do it. And every day I'm like, you know what? You have to do your work. That's going to pay, you know, to keep food on your table and keep my, you know, lights on. So yeah, I've been hiding, hiding behind the, you know, important work of, uh,
00:55:06
Curt
I'm keeping the lights on. So, but it'll come.
00:55:08
jamie peacock
Fair enough.
00:55:08
Curt
It'll come because I've ah sunk way too much time and money. Like I've told a few people on DMs, they're like, oh, is it going to come out?
00:55:13
Curt
I'm like, of course it is because I've sunk thousands and thousands of dollars into it. And i want to I want to reap some of that back out of it. So it will see the light of day.
00:55:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, that's Danica and I were chatting because the anchor points sitting in stock are not helping with my mental state. But she was like, a you can't give up on it now.
00:55:29
jamie peacock
I'm like, no, no, there's no intention of giving up. This batch is getting finished and I'm probably going to build another batch whether they sell or not.
00:55:36
jamie peacock
Like, I'm sure they will sell. It's just, yeah, the longer you're in the market, the the more... um what's it John and i are discussing this. like The longer his store's around, the more random sales he gets.
00:55:51
jamie peacock
like Doesn't promote and just, you've been around, your name's been around, so it's like, yeah, we're just riding it until we hit the down downhill side of the roller coaster.
00:56:02
jamie peacock
And that, yeah, you just gotta suck it up and carry on with life.
00:56:09
Curt
If you can build enough and and just having it isn't going to cripple you financially in any other sense, why not have some gold just sitting in the corner that you can just quickly exchange?
00:56:17
jamie peacock
Well, that's it.
00:56:18
Curt
But at the same time, I wouldn't go build a thousand of them because why?
00:56:21
jamie peacock
No, that's the thing. Like, yeah.
00:56:24
jamie peacock
No, no, that that's the thing. i It would be a lot easier to be producing these and would be, I'd probably be doing a lot more promotion stuff if I had customers that would place orders like they're meant to, that would fix the cashflow situation.
00:56:36
jamie peacock
And then then making 50 of them is a minor detail. Like the cashflow is there, but yeah, with customers being as retarded as they are, actually need to phone the accounts department tomorrow and shout at them.
00:56:49
jamie peacock
Because they're now eight days overdue with the payment for stuff that was delivered in the middle of last month.
00:56:54
jamie peacock
It's like, guys, do you want to pay me a lot of money for your drawings and get told to go away? Like,
International Feedback and Market Presence
00:57:01
jamie peacock
that is where we're heading at this point.
00:57:03
jamie peacock
I was actually their CEO was sending me videos. He's in China. Apparently, the Chinese say I print really good 3D prints.
00:57:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, he was in China, they're injection molding the parts that was 3D printing samples of.
00:57:17
jamie peacock
He sent me video, like, are they submarine porting these things? He's like, I don't know. So then he asked, like, yeah, no, they're submarine porting, they're injection molding samples this week of the enclosure that I modified and tweaked and whatnot.
00:57:29
jamie peacock
So it's kind of cool, but like, okay, cool, my involvement with project is now done. Can we get back to actually making the production stuff that we do?
00:57:37
jamie peacock
So hopefully this week we'll be making... these sensor housings, which still need to figure out how going pot these things. I'm considering a complete redesign where they can pot the board in and then press a aluminum cap into it.
00:57:52
jamie peacock
Similar to one of the other sensors, instead of putting, screwing the board and then potting it, then screwing a form in to create this cone of potting compound. It's a little bit freaking stupid. And just because that's the way it's being done doesn't mean it's the way it needs to be done.
00:58:07
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:58:08
jamie peacock
so I might have to just go and tell them politely that they're fucking stupid and they need to do it properly I have a way of being pal polite yeah yeah very straight to the point guys still pitch up there in shorts I used to go there in long pants now I just pitch up whatever I'm wearing on the day is what I wear when I go there you get what you get ah let the work speak for itself like you're welcome to go to China good luck considering I'm beating them out on multiple components good fucking luck
00:58:15
Curt
Well, good luck. Yeah, exactly. Very persuasive.
00:58:29
Curt
yeah yep yep yeah yeah
00:58:38
Curt
yeah yeah I know it's like yeah oh boy
00:58:39
jamie peacock
And I'm not beating them out because I'm undercutting them either. i'm making good money on the bots. But anyway, that's... They were actually discussing our ma in episode 122 of Taps and Patience, my shop rate.
00:58:55
jamie peacock
Because I've chatted to Jacob about it quite a bit. And they were discussing shop rates and things. And I'm like, yeah, my shop rate is hilarious, but it's the going rate. And like they were discussing the blank pallets being made on Subtract.
00:59:09
jamie peacock
And he ran it through their costing thing. And I'm like, cool. Firstly, your cycle time is way off by a factor of three. Never mind the material cost, which is off by a factor of two.
00:59:21
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, the but because I can price, because I can.
00:59:25
jamie peacock
um Because I know the competition charge for things like.
00:59:29
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway.
00:59:31
jamie peacock
Have you listened to With Intolerance with Sanders?
00:59:35
Curt
Oh, I have, yeah, that was a good one. i Yeah, I really enjoyed that one.
00:59:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, really, really good. I thoroughly enjoyed that one.
00:59:40
jamie peacock
But yeah, this weekend has been very, very light on podcasts.
00:59:46
jamie peacock
Because making it didn't do one. um There was no PFG Live. yeah There's a whole bunch of stuff like starving for podcasts.
00:59:57
jamie peacock
But this is what it is.
00:59:58
Curt
Yeah, i a I was locked into my audiobook. I finally finished the ah that whole series of... I will pull it up right now because I can't remember off top my head, even though I listened to a thousand million episodes of it. um ah Craig Allenson, Expeditionary Force.
01:00:16
Curt
So I listened to all the Expeditionary Forces. I think there's like 16 or 17 books.
01:00:20
Curt
So yeah, that was but that was a good series.
01:00:22
Curt
Enjoyed that. And then I just listened to it.
01:00:25
Curt
Taylor is like one of my favorite authors as well. He did the whole Bobaverse series and he came up with another book called Flybot. And I'd like immediately downloaded that one and listened to it and finished it. It was okay.
01:00:35
Curt
I didn't mind it, but yeah. So I, yeah.
01:00:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, I need to install Everint, I think, and get into audiobooks.
01:00:41
Curt
Oh, they're my favorite.
01:00:41
jamie peacock
Because otherwise, yeah, I doom scroll.
01:00:44
jamie peacock
That's the problem. is if
01:00:46
jamie peacock
If I'm not watching a YouTube video or something, I'm freaking doom scrolling on on Instagram. And the amount of crap on Instagram these days, of ai generated crap, it is frustrating to no end.
01:00:57
jamie peacock
i actually, I reported a video the other day. I'm like, a please, can't go why am I? Yeah, not even AR generated crap, just crap.
01:01:07
jamie peacock
Like, don't know you've things with the fish traps, where the guys put out all these fish, and like, dude, there's fish all fucking dead. This one's a dude with sock puppet coming out of a frickin' hole. I'm like, why is this on my feed?
01:01:19
jamie peacock
Because the problem is it catches your interest, and you watch it for four seconds to see what's going on, and then they just feed you more.
01:01:25
Curt
yeah ah No, I was reading about that thing. It's like they're specifically designing it just to get enough dopamine where you don't actually get like a good hit out of it.
01:01:31
Curt
You just get enough to crave more. And then you just, you spend up all sudden notice you're like, oh, I just scrolled for an hour and I don't feel any better.
01:01:36
Curt
So it's like, yeah, no.
01:01:37
jamie peacock
Well, Danica was saying yesterday, we were chatting, and was saying, yeah, search romance novels once, and your feed will just be freaking, what's it, thirst traps.
01:01:52
jamie peacock
Like instantly, you search romance
Machine Retrofitting Adventures
01:01:54
jamie peacock
novels once, and it'll just be thirst traps for the rest of your life on your feed.
01:01:59
jamie peacock
Because they got they got my cousin's boyfriend to do that.
01:02:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was great.
01:02:04
Curt
yeah I sometimes try to, I try to.
01:02:05
jamie peacock
so I actually went and looked at a ah machine for him today.
01:02:10
jamie peacock
Yes, because of all the things I'm doing. i'm not quoting on doing retrofits as well.
01:02:16
jamie peacock
On top of everything. Yeah. So i actually looked at doing a Maso retrofit on this machine because it's got a 16, it's got an umbrella tool changer, 16 station.
01:02:24
jamie peacock
And I'm like, I don't feel like fighting with Linux CNC to make that work. So I casted out a Maso for them because the all the all the logic's built in already.
01:02:34
jamie peacock
ah but it's a pretty big machine, needs needs new servos.
01:02:37
jamie peacock
um They're basically lowballing the guy. The guys had it delivered to them for some reason, and they're like, we're going to lowball you.
01:02:44
jamie peacock
We're going to offer you, I think they offered them $2,000 for the machine.
01:02:49
jamie peacock
Yeah. So they'll lowball them. If the machine comes in, either I'm going retrofit it there, or I'm going to Carl to buy it. Carl's probably listening. So Carl, we need to talk, and I'll see you on Friday. Yeah.
01:03:01
jamie peacock
And then I'll chat to him because that's potentially option to pick the machine up for like 40 or 50,000 Rand and then pump some money into it. And you've got a pretty robust machine. Yes, it's a retrofit, but at least if it breaks, you can fix it.
01:03:14
jamie peacock
Because that's the concern. You buy an old for Nook machine, it breaks and it gets very expensive very, very quickly.
01:03:21
jamie peacock
So yeah, he's looking for options to to get his start.
01:03:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, Jamie's retrofit services.
01:03:28
Curt
know I'm old. My old day job, I did ah i did a Masso retrofit to a big like five by 20 foot gantry router. Same thing, like the control was $20,000 to replace.
01:03:36
jamie peacock
yeah yeah ah
01:03:38
Curt
I'm like, well, let's just throw a Masso in here and I'll try it. like I haven't tried it. liked it. i wouldn't I wouldn't be my first.
01:03:44
jamie peacock
I wouldn't use it so yeah I wouldn't use it because it has yeah has no macros that's deal breaker for me that's why I didn't put it on the Emco I looked at it seriously for the Emco but I wanted to bar feed macros and it doesn't really support it from what I could see but yeah
01:03:46
Curt
Yeah, but it's super user.
01:03:50
Curt
Totally, yeah. But like, yeah.
01:04:00
Curt
No, but for like ah like something that's someone maybe that's less technical to like support and work with, it's fantastic.
01:04:06
Curt
Like, yeah. And it seems fairly hard, fairly hardened.
01:04:06
jamie peacock
No, it's great.
01:04:08
Curt
So yeah, it's decent.
01:04:09
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, so so I looked at it. it's um by There's a local agent, Geek Tech or some cuck. um
01:04:17
jamie peacock
I specced out the G3 Touch, a five-meter wiring kit, because i don't know if you've seen the wiring harness kit they do now.
01:04:23
jamie peacock
Really sweet that you plug into the board, you run two dB cables to your panel, and then you have a breakout that emulates the thing.
01:04:30
jamie peacock
Really cool.
01:04:31
jamie peacock
Bloody expensive, but really cool.
01:04:32
jamie peacock
So it was the G3 Touch, that, ah two relays, the MPG, and there was something else that I threw in there.
01:04:42
jamie peacock
Anyway, came $2,800 to um came to two thousand eight hundred dollars to buyd locally, and just on to from Australia,
01:04:55
jamie peacock
ah apart from australia thank you
01:04:57
Curt
Yeah, that's the game I played.
01:04:58
jamie peacock
I'm not paying it extra $800 for convenience fee. Like, get knotted. The OXYR just ripped the ring on shit like that.
01:05:07
jamie peacock
So I quoted them basically.
01:05:08
jamie peacock
I gave them ballpark for the Masso for three new servos and then hoping we can reuse the spindle servo. The drive's there, the servo's there. If we can't, it's another 24,000 Rand for servo, which like $1,400 servo and drive.
01:05:23
jamie peacock
which is locked ah thousand four hundred dollars server and draft
01:05:27
Curt
Yeah. No, it's good for them.
01:05:28
jamie peacock
Which isn't too bad.
01:05:30
Curt
I mean, like, for the guys that I retrofitted it for, i gave them a binder, and I loaded up all their files, and I just printed QR codes, because you can plug a QR code scanner into a Maso, and then, like, the like they load the sheet up.
01:05:41
Curt
It told them, like, what kind of material to load into the router, and then they just scan it scan the QR code, and it auto pops up everything.
01:05:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, I mean...
01:05:46
Curt
Like, I even put a QR code for warm-up. They scan that. It warms up.
01:05:49
Curt
Like, and I made it stupid, idiot-proof, and, like, it works well.
01:05:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, I've got a customer who's got one. he's learning He's learning fusion and learning to run CNC. He's a pattern maker. I don't know if he's actually learned anything, but yeah, they bought a machine with Maso.
01:06:03
jamie peacock
And I messed around on it a bit.
01:06:04
jamie peacock
I'm like, it's okay.
01:06:07
jamie peacock
I don't know. I wouldn't run one in my shop just because I like a little bit more than it offers.
01:06:11
jamie peacock
Also, the fact that I have to use their stupid relay boards annoys me to no end.
01:06:17
jamie peacock
Because their control logic voltage is stupid.
01:06:23
jamie peacock
on purpose like it's really doffed but yeah i was chatting to them when they just released when they're still on the g two i was chatting to the guy in australia um because i was building uh the slow year at the time and i was chatting to him because i was going to go visit them when i went to australia for work and then i think the trip got delayed or something and then yeah um our schedules never lined up my job back in the day back in my day
01:06:50
jamie peacock
But yeah, obviously I quoted them to put new motors on a Bridgeport-style machine that had been retrofitted. The controller had died, so in January I put Linux CNC, just a Mesa board with the controller and reused their motors and drives.
01:07:05
jamie peacock
But for some reason, the Gecko drives are cutting current to the motors.
01:07:10
jamie peacock
It's a 12-Newton-meter motor. When it's moving, I can grab it with my hand and stop it. grab it and stop so i'm like okay you need to replace your motors the motor replacement costs the same as the controller but is what it is
Episode Conclusion and Listener Engagement
01:07:23
jamie peacock
i was there today and i was like what's happening like no we uh chatting to the guy that's gonna buy this and we're gonna make him pay for it i'm like okay i don't really care like when you're ready tell me give me money and i'll do the job like i'll be in and out of there in a day it's not a not a big job but yeah it's always fun going there looking at tools that i shouldn't buy
01:07:43
jamie peacock
but Anyway, I think we should wrap up. is going nice long episode. um What have you been Googling?
01:07:51
Curt
have probably been Googling nothing of too much fun. Let me just, let's pull up the old Google box and see what I've been looking up.
01:07:56
jamie peacock
Let me see.
01:07:58
jamie peacock
Apparently the LK is still running.
01:08:00
Curt
Nice. ah Some SFM stuff.
01:08:03
Curt
of Virtual audio cable, which is what I'm using right now to pipe some audio from, I like to use OBS. I'm piping it in into Zencaster because Zencaster is very persnickety.
01:08:14
Curt
doesn't have like a bunch of source options. So I wanted to put more compression and weird stuff onto the audio. Anyways, that's just nerd audio stuff. ah Quilling tools. That's ah yeah.
01:08:25
Curt
You know who you are.
01:08:25
jamie peacock
Rolling of paper.
01:08:28
jamie peacock
I used to do that. It's freaking great.
01:08:30
Curt
some secret listener put me onto that.
01:08:32
Curt
um So yeah, you know exactly who you are.
01:08:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, I used to do that back in the day.
01:08:35
Curt
It's cool. i didn't i thought it was I thought it was like crochet because i quickly looked at it and I was like, oh, those are crochet hooks.
01:08:41
Curt
And it's like, no, it's quilling. i'm like, what is that?
01:08:43
Curt
I'm like, oh, that's kind of cool.
01:08:43
jamie peacock
Quilling, yeah. It gets really intense.
01:08:46
jamie peacock
I used to do it in high school.
01:08:48
Curt
Really? Yeah, it looks kind of fun, honestly.
01:08:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, I bought a kit in high school and used to make all sorts of fun shit with it.
01:08:53
Curt
Yeah, it kind of looks interesting.
01:08:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, don't go down the drive all.
01:08:55
Curt
Not that I want to go down that rabbit hole. And then I found and then i found this ah modifying headphones. I like audio stuff. Foster TX T50 RP. You can make your own very fancy-pantsy $15,000 headphones for $150.
01:09:10
Curt
I've just been reading that.
01:09:11
Curt
I'm not going to do it, but just interesting.
01:09:13
Curt
so but That's been in my my Google box. How about you?
01:09:16
jamie peacock
your google box is empty um i'm on 22 on wordle um yeah looking for pvc meat curtain door things found a supply for that looking at the movie tenant from 2020 which i still haven't watched and i want to watch um kind of curious what this 3d printing store one is oh was looking up no what the hell was i looking up
01:09:38
jamie peacock
closed-loop steppers to see if they had stock for that customer we were just discussing. um Looking for enclosures for them. Looking at CART, which is the Kauzulu Natal Industrial Technology Exhibition, which I'm probably going to fly down to Durban for on the 22nd.
01:09:55
jamie peacock
um to go and just exhibit for a few days. My stuff, the anchor point is going to be on a stand there. So ah kind of want to be there as well.
01:10:04
jamie peacock
So we might have to record it early on the 24th. Cause I might fly down on the night of the 20th. I'm sorry, the 21st. I might fly down on the night of the 21st. I think I start my mom for a few days and go go to the expo.
01:10:17
jamie peacock
Um, Let's close my PayPal. That doesn't need to be open. Close my ISP. I've been looking at Xbox 360 Slim, how to open it because the disc changer didn't want to open.
01:10:28
jamie peacock
So that's fine way to shove a stick. I was looking at sitting standing desks and was looking at the Bosch Nano saw blades or your Nano blades.
01:10:38
Curt
I know where this is going.
01:10:40
jamie peacock
Yes, you know exactly where this is going.
01:10:42
jamie peacock
they're They're stupid expensive. Like if they weren't like $25 or $30 each, I would probably go that route. But as soon as I go into someone's stainless steel armor, those blades, the teeth are done.
01:10:53
jamie peacock
Then it's useless.
01:10:53
Curt
Totally. Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:54
jamie peacock
So it's like, unless I make a weapon for the combat robot, that that is, I make a modular weapon system.
01:11:00
jamie peacock
That might be a feasible option. Then I've got something else.
01:11:03
jamie peacock
If they've got armor, if they've got plastic, I'm cutting through it. ah But yeah, was looking at those and then was looking at 64 gig RAM kits for my PC.
01:11:12
jamie peacock
Because I definitely need that much RAM. um
01:11:14
Curt
Totally. Everybody does. Yeah.
01:11:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, like, yeah, that PC does the thing. It just, a I want to put in a new case because I like building PCs. I like building pretty PCs and that one isn't particularly pretty. so yeah i was looking at an antique case i think the case i think my other two cases yeah this is an antique case that this piece is and the one for the laser cutter and then this new one will be an antique case as well with uh tempered glass and all the freaking rainbow the unicorn chanda or everywhere the way it should be so kurt where can people find you
01:11:50
Curt
ConfoundedMachine.com that'll point you to everything including the store where you can buy shirts and the for the podcast stuff that funnels money into Jamie's account that he takes out and then does something Danica's account that she does something secret with that I'm not entirely sure but it keeps the wheels on the bus moving so that's all that matters.
01:12:00
jamie peacock
Danica's account.
01:12:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's all being hoarded for if the US doesn't explode. Yeah.
01:12:12
jamie peacock
yeah, for for next year's endeavors if, yeah, if we decide to go there.
01:12:18
jamie peacock
Although, not entirely sure we are going to go there. Anyway, yeah, you can find us at theloanemachinist.com. You can find me at jspeceng.com or jspec underscore engineering on Instagram.
01:12:31
jamie peacock
There are some anchor points. posted a hosting today on Instagram as well with the little promo pamphlet thing that I made up for the anchor points. um Yeah, there's a couple in stock and there will be more in stock in the next week and a bit by the looks of it.
01:12:48
jamie peacock
um Just waiting on some pneumatics to come in and the last bits and bobs to come back so that I can finish off those anchor points and put them in stock. ah Let me not knock things over.
01:12:58
jamie peacock
So yeah, what are you up to today, Kurt?
01:13:00
Curt
Today, I'm going to put a bunch of boxes in boxes because i have to send all the boxes down to someone. They live close to me, this corporate client, but I just want to ah ship a giant box, um which made me nervous last time because they gave me the wrong address.
01:13:12
Curt
So I had like, you know, whatever, five, $10,000 in pens floating around in the ether.
01:13:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's terrifying.
01:13:18
Curt
Uh, yeah, going to get it right this time. And it it was their fault, thankfully, so they owned it. um And I insured it, so it all worked out.
01:13:24
Curt
But anyways, going to do that. And then I'm going to finish some of those black pens. And then I'm going to play with screws, because I've got to get that rolling. So how about you?
01:13:33
jamie peacock
You mean you're going to screw her out?
01:13:35
Curt
I'm going to screw around. Yeah.
01:13:37
jamie peacock
Nice. ah Yeah, I'm going to go and see if my mold machined nicely after the podcast, because that's still running.
01:13:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, it should be done in about 15 minutes. um And then I'm going to sleep. And then tomorrow I'm going to make bigger molds. So that's the rest of the week, basically, is making molds. And then we've got the big ones. i'm waiting actually for the deposit so I can order the material. I need to harass them tomorrow because I need to get that material ordered or we're going to come up very close on the deadline.
01:14:04
jamie peacock
which is the end of the month for those. So I would rather not ah rather not be close to the deadline. I'd rather have lots of wiggle room here, especially with 14-hour finishing passes.
01:14:12
Curt
no doubt yeah yeah that's up there yeah
01:14:18
jamie peacock
So I actually, I have a plan. It's a stupid plan, but it's plan. To break my finishing passes into multiple sections and have the machine pause between.
01:14:27
jamie peacock
So then I just set a reminder or alarm on my phone, wake up every four hours, go and hit continue and it carries on machining. That way I'm not, if the power goes out and it's sitting up, like as it is, there's a 20% chance that the machine is going to be disengaged when the power goes off.
01:14:46
jamie peacock
because I'm doing one way parallel. So it goes then up and I'm running a 50% rapid because a hundred percent rapid is just silly.
01:14:54
jamie peacock
um It's not going to make such a big difference on this. I'd rather just let the machine go slowly. um So there is a, I'd say a 30% chance that it's not in the cut of the power drops. Cause I think the power drop lost an art at some point because my skimmer is not skimming currently.
01:15:10
jamie peacock
which means I've got to pull the coolant tank apart to get to the pump and, don't know, breathe life into it so that it'll it'll actually pump coolant again.
01:15:21
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's ah that's a this week's problem. But yeah, anyway, thank you everybody for listening. i Please feel free to share, rate, like, subscribe, whatever it is on and your platform of choice.
01:15:34
jamie peacock
And if you know someone who you might ah you think might enjoy the podcast, please share it along. For the Patreons, I hope you enjoy the After Show. I have no idea what we're going to talk about this week, but I'm sure it'll be a good one as they always tend to be.
01:15:45
jamie peacock
And always get shouted at by my wife for saying dumb things on there because she listens to the whole After Show, but not the whole podcast. But thank you very much for listening, everyone. we will see you next week.