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Ep. 36: Don’t Panic: 4th Axis & FedEx Fails
126 Plays10 days ago
Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as Actual customer service (better than you think), Smart lathe sl36 (13000), and how health is wealth.
Links Discussed:
- Prescribed reading - Pumpkin plan: https://mikemichalowicz.com/pumpkin-plan/
- 20um benchy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgQbPdiuUTw
- Swiss-Type / Sliding Head Lathes: https://www.chiah-chyun.com/en-US/plist2-swiss-type-sliding-head-lathes
- Robot Arm Curt - https://www.ruvionrobotics.com/
- alexander rueffer: https://www.youtube.com/@alexanderrueffer (thanks @hamiltonpianos for the link)
- Cobot: https://www.igus.co.za/automation/robot-types/cobot
The Lone Machinist:
- Website: https://thelonemachinists.com/
- Bonus Content: https://thelonemachinists.com/#bonus-content
- Merch: https://www.jspeceng.com/online-store
- Patreon: https://patreon.com/TheLoneMachinists
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Transcript
Holiday Reflections and Time Management
00:00:47
jamie peacock
Good day Kurt.
00:00:49
Curt
Good day, Mr. Jamie. I think it's one time we can pretty much say that to each other. so
00:00:53
jamie peacock
Yes, because it's clearly still day here. ah Yeah, no, we're recording and little bit early because apparently Monday is another public holiday for the Canadians.
00:00:56
Curt
No kidding, yeah.
00:01:02
jamie peacock
And I think also for the Americans.
00:01:03
Curt
yeah.
00:01:03
jamie peacock
It's Labor Day weekend.
00:01:05
Curt
Yeah, i think that's kind of a big North American thing, so yeah.
00:01:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:01:07
Curt
I appreciate it.
00:01:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, no. No, no stress. We've got daa we got all our stupid public holidays in the beginning of the year. Like, now it's pretty sparse until we get right to the end of the year and then into stupidness for the new year. But yeah, tomorrow the last third of the year starts.
00:01:22
Curt
Wow, really? Oh, man. That creeped up fast.
00:01:26
jamie peacock
It does that.
00:01:27
Curt
Wow. Yeah, that's disconcerting.
00:01:29
jamie peacock
I think. Yeah.
The Freedom and Challenges of Self-Employment
00:01:31
Curt
Yeah, no, I think you're right.
00:01:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, last third.
00:01:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, four months left.
00:01:31
Curt
That sounds about right.
00:01:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, because September is tomorrow.
00:01:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:36
jamie peacock
Um... Yeah, like you wanted to record earlier, I'm like, yeah, let's record today.
00:01:39
Curt
yeah
00:01:40
jamie peacock
i took today off, like entirely off. I went and I woke up late, I went and walked the doggos, had breakfast and then came back and been watching TV and just chilling, taking a day. Because yesterday, ah spent 10 hours loading Dutchman squeeze box reeds into my machine and chopping them smaller.
00:02:02
Curt
you know
00:02:02
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:02
Curt
and Pretty much every other human that works at 9 to 5 is also taking Sunday off. So i think you I think you're within your right to take it.
00:02:08
jamie peacock
I know, it's fucking weird.
00:02:11
Curt
I know it's weird when you work for yourself and you're like, well, Sunday I could work too.
00:02:13
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:14
Curt
like so it's It seems different to take like full weekends off, but probably a good thing to do.
00:02:18
jamie peacock
Yeah, know. Yeah, yesterday, I literally, I didn't feel like working. I eventually got into the shop at like nine in the morning and I stood at the machine until seven to finish the job. Like just nonstop, every two minutes, change parts.
00:02:31
Curt
Ugh, those are the worst little ones.
00:02:32
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. they are like i've put the chair of doom in the walkway and then i played it on my phone i think i watched like six hours of youtube i was watching retrospectives on series and all sorts of fun stuff and the wan show and whatnot
00:02:44
Curt
Nice. Because i yeah I think a couple weeks ago you said that job is going to take like five hours of just like quick palette swaps.
00:02:51
jamie peacock
yeah i didn't make another pallets because can't machine pallets currently because there's a fourth axis in the way
00:02:51
Curt
So.
00:02:56
Curt
Uh. Uh. Ha ha ha.
00:02:58
jamie peacock
So I can't get low enough on the current setup, and I don't want to move my anchor points until next week because I've got the tufnel job coming around, and the vacuum fixture locates off of where it currently is, where anchor point currently is.
00:02:59
Curt
Okay.
00:03:11
Curt
Gotcha.
Optimizing Workspace and Workflow
00:03:12
jamie peacock
So after this round goes through, then I'm rearranging the whole table of machine.
00:03:18
Curt
Ah, that makes sense.
00:03:19
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
00:03:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:03:20
jamie peacock
ah yeah A little annoying, but it was what it was. um Yeah, just stood there and tightened and loosened 1,500 screws through the day because everyone's held in with two screws.
00:03:30
Curt
Oh. Oh, it's...
00:03:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was just just a little little tedious.
00:03:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:03:37
jamie peacock
But yeah, that was yesterday.
00:03:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:03:39
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, oh I'm busy planning to do some work in the workshop to move my... my table where my la my manual lathe is and is next to the LK to yeet that thing out the door and put shelving on that wall.
00:03:50
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:03:54
Curt
okay
00:03:54
jamie peacock
So i want yeet that stuff out, paint the wall right to the roof, put shelves to the roof ah for material rack, like small borrowed material racks. ah Still have one of the levels as a shit like as a table and then store it. Like I want to maximize the usage of the space for storage and material coming in for material, like as orders of material come in onto the input shelf and then as it runs through into the output shelf.
00:04:16
Curt
Yeah, well, fair. I mean, anyone that's anyone that's seen any of your videos like on Instagram, whatever, it's like, yeah, you have to basically build up because you have nowhere else to go.
00:04:23
jamie peacock
Yes. Yeah. Well, I have somewhere else
Managing Customer Relationships and Expectations
00:04:27
jamie peacock
to go. it just requires me to build a whole new building in my front yard.
00:04:31
Curt
that's a bit more than just, yeah, like building a shelf little easier.
00:04:33
jamie peacock
Yeah. And that's that is on the cards. It's just, ah yeah, hopefully hopefully we'll move into position where that's doable in the near future. Because it seems like the diesel guys are finally pulling their heads out of their asses and will be placing orders again.
00:04:43
Curt
Yeah, no fair.
00:04:53
Curt
Oh, nice. Okay. Yeah. Well, if that goes through, because that's a, that's going to be a humongous order if that goes through for you.
00:04:54
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah.
00:04:57
jamie peacock
Yeah. They also nearly got told to take their stuff and leave. um They wanted to order They're like, oh, can we have five samples of each? I'm like, dudes, are you joking?
00:05:09
jamie peacock
And then I was going to send them a ragey email and I'm like, I have a piece of material. Calm down. Let's just make them their stupid samples because there's an order waiting for those samples. So I made them their stupid samples. I'm like, you can fetch them this afternoon.
00:05:22
jamie peacock
Like, no, we'll see you tomorrow. So then they came through. I'm like, there you go. You were delivered 20 of this already and you have a drawing with dimensions. We'll get into that now now. um He has a sample as a test for it. Okay, cool. they're happy. They're oh, they're battling to cut the tube. I'm listen, this is the tube we can get.
00:05:38
jamie peacock
We struggle to source that reliably. That is what you are getting. Get a new pipe cutter if you're battling cut it. Your blades blunt. So yeah hopefully that will now result in some orders, including replacing a thousand components that are now scrapped.
00:05:47
Curt
Mm.
00:05:53
Curt
oh
00:05:54
jamie peacock
The design changed. I did what I could to salvage another thousand components. and So the tubes, we can knock the PTFE insert out and press a different shaped one in.
00:06:00
Curt
Mm.
00:06:04
jamie peacock
But the bullet connectors, they've changed to the point that they are scrapped now.
00:06:04
Curt
Mm.
00:06:10
jamie peacock
And they've got 1,200 of them in stock. So it's a nice little order for the Emco to run. So I'm not too sad. But yeah, that should be next week. saying to Danica, I think it's not just going to pour.
00:06:22
jamie peacock
It's going to monsoon next week. Because there's a whole lot of stuff that we're waiting for and waiting for. And i think I was just waiting for the new month to place orders.
00:06:31
Curt
Oh, yeah, fair, fair. Yeah, that makes sense, I guess.
00:06:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I mean the knife guards, the carbides arrived. I've got to go pick it up tomorrow. Just check it's all the right size and then I've got to go ahead to make another 50 filing guards.
Balancing Work Efficiency and Personal Well-being
00:06:41
Curt
Nice, okay.
00:06:43
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's that I want to put onto the fourth axis.
00:06:46
Curt
Yeah? Is that a...
00:06:48
jamie peacock
Everything's a fourth axis job.
00:06:48
Curt
Oh, I guess... I get i get anything could be yeah anything that's a two-op job can be a one-op or ah sort access.
00:06:52
jamie peacock
Well, that's a three-op job. I want to make it a two-op. So I want to do the all the precision features in the first two ops.
00:06:56
Curt
Mm. Mm-hmm.
00:06:59
jamie peacock
And then the last op is literally just deck off the back.
00:07:03
Curt
OK. Nice.
00:07:04
jamie peacock
And put a chamfer. Try and simplify my life as much as as possible.
00:07:09
Curt
nice
00:07:10
jamie peacock
But yeah, what's been happening on your side?
00:07:13
Curt
Uh, I basically just did a bunch of production and I wanted to have my production finished this week. And then just about like Thursday, I caught some sort of plague that my little rats have been bringing home. I, I dodged like three good colds. I was quite happy with it. And this one just hit me like a sack of shit.
00:07:27
Curt
And I just was just like, uh, on Wednesday was, I was feeling, I was like, something is a rye. And then by Thursday I was like, no boy.
00:07:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:33
Curt
No. So I just, excuse me. I just, uh, basically took Thursday and Friday off and, uh, yeah, did nothing but sleep.
00:07:39
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:07:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, because I messaged you and you were like, Nope, you're man down. So, oh, yes, I wanted.
00:07:41
Curt
And yeah, it's kind of more like,
00:07:45
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:07:46
jamie peacock
to I wanted to know what drive you've got in your machine. And you're like, yeah the next time you go into the workshop, I'm like, no stress, dude.
00:07:50
Curt
Yeah, like I was...
00:07:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:54
Curt
And this is the first time I've been back in here because, I mean, my voice is still messed up.
00:07:56
jamie peacock
yeah
00:07:57
Curt
But, yeah, I was just like, I just, I hate that when you have, like, downtime, but you, like, you feel so crappy. You're like, I can't even, like, watch shows or do whatever. I just want like, sleep.
00:08:05
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah, no.
00:08:05
Curt
You're just like, what a waste. Like, I could have caught up on so much cool.
00:08:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:08:09
Curt
But anyways, whatever. ah I know better now. Just take the time. Relax. Get your body fixed.
00:08:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, let yourself heal.
00:08:15
Curt
Like sleep as much as you can eat your food, do whatever you give or you can. Cause you'll, you'll feel better faster. Like anytime I've been like, I'll just push through it. Then I'm sick for like three weeks. Cause you don't like, we all do, we all do the exact same stupid thing and I'm starting to learn now.
00:08:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:08:28
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:08:28
Curt
So, but slowly, but surely it's like, yeah, if we're not like one of my topics, health is wealth.
00:08:30
jamie peacock
Slowly. Yeah.
00:08:35
Curt
Cause like, yeah, if you're not healthy, you're hosed. You cannot buy health.
00:08:38
jamie peacock
yeah
00:08:39
Curt
Like you cannot make yourself healthy with money.
00:08:40
jamie peacock
Well, i saw a thing, um remember i think it was ReadyPots posted a thing today. i if you if you're If you're not working, it's not working, you have a job.
00:08:53
jamie peacock
If you're working and it's working, you've got a business. if you're working If you're not working and it's growing, you have an empire. And I was like, yeah, it's always going to be a job because I have no desire to have a million fucking staff.
00:09:01
Curt
Oh, that's cool. Yeah.
00:09:09
jamie peacock
Because I feel like that's the route.
00:09:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:15
jamie peacock
Kevin went down from smooth precision pens was he grew and then he ended up burning up because he he was pushing hard all the time trying to grow.
00:09:18
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:09:25
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:09:25
jamie peacock
try Yeah, like at a certain point, you need to make a decision on whether you want that or not.
00:09:31
Curt
Yeah, totally. And, I mean, know, like, i always think about that if I want this to, you know, continue when I die.
00:09:32
jamie peacock
no I've.
00:09:38
Curt
And, like, no, like, I'm not setting it up to do that.
00:09:40
jamie peacock
yeah no yeah we'll see how it goes in the next couple years how you feel about it like because that's the thing it's also it's at your house so if you have an employee they've got to come into your fucking house which is not cool because people are weird yeah
00:09:41
Curt
And, like, that's that's fine. That's how I currently think. But...
00:09:46
Curt
So...
00:09:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:56
Curt
Yeah, but I think we're kind of both in the same boat. Yeah, we're not really, we're not building, we're we're building good jobs for ourselves. We're not building like generational businesses unless, yeah, we magically have people that just jump in and want to take over.
00:10:03
jamie peacock
that's it yeah
00:10:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:09
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, it would be what you would end up being able to do is selling off the the business with all of its associates, basically, with all its customers. When you want to shut down eventually, that that is the the out.
00:10:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:22
jamie peacock
It's not, you're not going to build an empire and pass to your children kind of story. It would be a case of, okay, cool, I'm retiring now. I'm selling the name Jspec Engineering with all its business, all its contracts, all that stuff to somebody to carry on in the name.
00:10:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:36
jamie peacock
I mean, that's what happened at where Carl works, SRT.
00:10:37
Curt
well
00:10:40
jamie peacock
It was started by an old toppy. He eventually sold off to a guy named Shane, who then sold off to a guy named Chester the Molester, and he's now successfully running it into the ground.
00:10:52
Curt
Yeah. Well, and I think that's like a fair, like everyone, like, especially with the Instagram grind that we all get like exposed to is like, it's fine to build a business that you know is just going to be you.
00:11:04
Curt
Like you don't have to build ah an empire.
00:11:04
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:11:06
Curt
Like you, everyone's just like, you gotta to grind and make it out of employees and hire and grow. And it's like, no, you can just make yourself a job that you enjoy and do it for your life. And then it goes away when you die. That's fine too.
00:11:17
jamie peacock
That's fine.
00:11:18
Curt
Like that works too.
00:11:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:19
Curt
And like, I, I don't know. I just, I feel like that never gets like portrayed.
00:11:22
jamie peacock
That's, that is one.
00:11:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:24
jamie peacock
Yeah. That's why I started the the podcast, the loan machinist, because it, when I started with John and then when you came on board, it, we have no intention of having employees.
00:11:34
Curt
No.
00:11:34
jamie peacock
All three of us have no intention of having employees.
00:11:35
Curt
No.
00:11:36
jamie peacock
like You have to run the machine a little bit if you need to, but that's it.
00:11:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:39
jamie peacock
like it
00:11:41
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:11:41
jamie peacock
ah Yes, it limits your potential income, but you can also run four machines at once and be printing money.
00:11:50
Curt
Absolutely.
00:11:50
jamie peacock
but
00:11:51
Curt
Absolutely. Like...
00:11:51
jamie peacock
that is That is my week this week. I spent 10 hours in the in the shop on yesterday on Saturday.
00:11:58
jamie peacock
I made freaking good money standing at the machine.
00:11:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:01
jamie peacock
I had to stand there and do it every freaking two minutes because there's no ways I'm auto-loading those things. um It's shit, but hey, guess what? I stood there, the job's out, the guy's happy. They now want to bring in, instead of brass, want to bring in aluminum reeds because they're a little bit cheap. are They're not even actually cheaper, they're just lighter.
00:12:17
Curt
Right.
00:12:17
jamie peacock
So he's like, can you machine aluminum? I'm like, I'd do it all day. Like, it makes zero difference to me. But yeah, like you work hard, but it pays off hard as well.
00:12:28
Curt
Yeah. Well, like ah you could probably approach anybody that has a day job like somewhere else other than where they live and be like, hey, do you want to do exactly what you're doing?
00:12:29
jamie peacock
yeah
00:12:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:37
Curt
But from home. they and even not even increase their salaries. Be like, we'll pay you the exact same, but you just stay home.
00:12:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:43
Curt
Everybody would jump at that. You'd be like, of course I would.
00:12:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:46
Curt
so then it's like, okay.
00:12:47
jamie peacock
Well, the but flexible hours are where it really shines.
00:12:49
Curt
okay
00:12:50
jamie peacock
Like, I'm now, we're going, we, tomorrow, September, we're going into bass fishing season.
00:12:51
Curt
Absolutely, yeah.
00:12:55
jamie peacock
I can tell you right now, I'm going to be getting three o'clock or two o'clock in my truck with my boat and buggering off to the dam to go fish in the afternoon.
00:13:03
Curt
Sure, yeah, exactly.
00:13:03
jamie peacock
Because why not? no Why not?
00:13:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:05
jamie peacock
Or go fish in the morning, come off the water at 10 o'clock in the morning, come home, have a shower, and then start working. Like, I used to do it.
00:13:12
Curt
Right.
00:13:13
jamie peacock
I used to go at 3 o'clock in the afternoon. There's a place down the road. It's like a six-minute drive. The
Machinery Upgrades and Production Efficiency
00:13:19
jamie peacock
ice fishing place used to go down there hat with my mate Dave when he used to drink, have a couple beers, catch a couple fish, and then come home at 6 o'clock.
00:13:27
jamie peacock
And yeah, that is the one of the main perks I can go walk my dogs at two o'clock in the afternoon when nobody is at the dog park.
00:13:35
Curt
A hundred percent. Like that is where value, like, yeah, I obviously, I want to make money. Like I want to, if, if I was doing this and just making a minimum wage, but I still do it.
00:13:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, no.
00:13:42
Curt
I did do it for a long time doing that. I made less than minimum wage for a long time, but besides the point, like why, why wouldn't you, like you said, have the flexibility to do what you want.
00:13:44
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:51
Curt
We're all going to die. You might as well do something you enjoy while you're here.
00:13:54
jamie peacock
Exactly.
00:13:55
Curt
And like, yeah, like if growing an empire makes you excited and get, that gets you jazzed, do that.
00:14:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, go for it.
00:14:01
Curt
And if just like, if just slinging around, you know, plane kind of doing this stuff and making a healthy income is what you're after, like do that too.
00:14:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:07
Curt
Like it's, it's all, it's all okay.
00:14:08
jamie peacock
normal I was chatting to my brother a little while ago and I'd forgotten him that people have weekends. So was like, no, do you want to chat?
00:14:15
Curt
Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:14:17
jamie peacock
Do want to chat on the weekend or something? a I'll be in the shop. He's like, he's going away this weekend. I'm like, oh yeah, people take weekends off. I forgot about that.
00:14:25
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:14:25
jamie peacock
Like, it's not something that, yeah. I mean, even growing up, my dad used to used to work he used to take his weekends off. But also, like, there work to be done because he ran his own business, he would be working.
00:14:36
jamie peacock
Or you'd go in and you because he put a fiberglass body on his, uh,
00:14:37
Curt
Right, yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:14:40
jamie peacock
on his truck, on his bucky. He bought it. When he went to look at it, he lifted the the hood and the hinges fell out. It had rusted that badly. He bought it anyway and put a fireglass bought a fiberglass body kit and spent four months.
00:14:53
jamie peacock
So then like, it was at their factory. So he had worked a little bit on the during the week. But then like Saturday, I'd go with him and help him. And the whole day he was working on that. So they yeah we were always he' busy, but yeah. yeah He used to go fishing in the morning.
00:15:08
jamie peacock
My mom used to go up in the factory, let the guys in so they could start working. My dad would pitch up at 10, 11 o'clock in the morning after fishing for the morning because he could.
00:15:14
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:15
jamie peacock
And yeah, that that's what I like.
00:15:16
Curt
yeah Totally.
00:15:16
jamie peacock
It's the laugh lifestyle.
00:15:19
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
00:15:19
jamie peacock
I mean, and people give um lifestyle business is a bad rap, but I'd grind hard in my workshop over the weekend. And like we don't do grocery shopping on the weekend.
00:15:31
jamie peacock
It's done in the week when no one's there.
00:15:31
Curt
Yep.
00:15:32
jamie peacock
Like not a chance when I go to the shop. Like we wanted something from the shop. This weekend, I'm like, Danica, I can wait till Monday. It's payday weekend.
00:15:40
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:15:41
jamie peacock
It's going to be unbearable.
00:15:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:43
jamie peacock
Like, let the plebs go. we will go. We'll go in the week.
00:15:48
Curt
yeah
00:15:48
jamie peacock
Like, because we can.
00:15:50
Curt
Oh, that's that's that's the superpower for sure.
00:15:50
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, that's i mean, that's.
00:15:53
Curt
like I got to get a haircut.
00:15:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:54
Curt
I'll book it on like a Tuesday at 2 o'clock when no one's there and just stroll up like you own the place.
00:15:56
jamie peacock
literally. Literally. I got annoy ah got annoyed with my hair on Wednesday.
00:15:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:01
jamie peacock
phoned the place I used to go to. They're no longer there. They transferred me to their the new location. I'm like, how's it? I need a haircut. They're like, oh when would you like to book? i'm like I'm in 24 minutes time. I'll see you at half past.
00:16:13
jamie peacock
Got there. No one's there. Got my head fondled. Got my hair cut and was out of there in 40 minutes.
00:16:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:19
jamie peacock
knock it Doing stuff during the week is the way. You just got remember to get all the tools and things you need for the weekend before the weekend.
00:16:22
Curt
me
00:16:29
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:29
jamie peacock
ah yeah um But yeah, anyway, so ah do you remember a few weeks ago we discussed smartlathe.com?
00:16:30
Curt
Exactly. Anyway.
00:16:38
Curt
I believe so. Yeah. Because I poked around on that site for a while. Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:41
jamie peacock
Yes, and you pushed me towards them.
Strategizing for Profitability and Customer Selection
00:16:43
Curt
Yes.
00:16:44
jamie peacock
Somehow I ended up on there again. They do a SL36, and I got a price on one.
00:16:47
Curt
Okay.
00:16:51
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:16:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:16:53
Curt
I'm going to look it up while you're while you're telling me the price.
00:16:54
jamie peacock
Yeah. So I've reached on. I actually want to get the SL-46 or 42. It's one size up because it can have a servo turret as an option.
00:17:01
Curt
OK.
00:17:04
Curt
OK.
00:17:05
jamie peacock
i got its I got the...
00:17:05
Curt
OK. It's a little chalker. OK.
00:17:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's a little slant bed, gang lathe, basically.
00:17:10
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:11
jamie peacock
ah cant I want a turret because I do a bit of a mix.
00:17:11
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:17:15
jamie peacock
It would be nice to have a turret. I'd use a turret and gang blocks as well, but anyway, turret.
00:17:17
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:17:20
jamie peacock
um
00:17:20
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:17:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've got a price on the SL36 with and four axial live tools. Oh, sorry, radial?
00:17:27
Curt
Okay. Yeah. Okay.
00:17:29
jamie peacock
I don't know, from the side. On a Y-axis. So Y-axis, C-axis, live tool, $13,000.
00:17:33
Curt
Oh, and a wire. Oh, okay.
00:17:35
jamie peacock
thirteen thousand dollars
00:17:36
Curt
Okay. What?
00:17:38
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:17:38
Curt
Sorry if I yelled. Sorry, people. Whoa.
00:17:40
jamie peacock
Also, yeah, also servo for the spindle, so not giant.
00:17:42
Curt
That's dirty.
00:17:46
Curt
Yeah. Not huge footprint either.
00:17:48
jamie peacock
So, yeah, so I'm going to reach out about the one size up from that. Not because I need the 46mm bark past you, but I want the turret.
00:17:53
Curt
don't know.
00:17:56
jamie peacock
Because turret would be really nice for some of the bigger work I do.
00:17:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:01
jamie peacock
Also, I think, have you listened to the pumpkin plan?
00:18:02
Curt
That's...
00:18:05
jamie peacock
Or read the pumpkin plan?
00:18:06
Curt
ah No, it's on my list, but no, I have not.
00:18:07
jamie peacock
Okay, do you want to make that a thing we listen to in the next week and we discuss?
00:18:11
Curt
probably a Probably a wise idea. Yeah, probably a wise idea.
00:18:14
jamie peacock
Yes. Okay, we're going to put that there as required reading because I would like to, so I know very little about it. um And I would like to know more because our only the place know from is with intolerance and yeah, Zabattini talking about it.
00:18:30
Curt
Yeah, we're zap-ranting about it.
00:18:31
jamie peacock
So yeah, so I think we need to give that a listen because I'm getting very close to firing some customers.
00:18:32
Curt
Yeah, for sure. Same.
00:18:37
Curt
Okay, okay.
00:18:38
jamie peacock
because if they're not going to be big pumpkins, they're going ripped out of the ground.
00:18:43
Curt
And totally fair.
00:18:43
jamie peacock
They're either going to, like, I was chatting to Danica this week. It's like, okay, cool. It's all good and well that everyone else locally is charging $25 to $40 an hour to machine stuff, $100 an hour, or it gets out of my workshop.
00:18:54
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:18:58
Curt
Yeah, fair. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:19:00
jamie peacock
It's it's either we it runs automatically, and then it's $30 to $40 hour. Or if it requires my attention, sorry, this is the price.
00:19:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:07
jamie peacock
You don't like it. There's the door. Go, please. Because I keep finding myself doing stupid shit for free. And it's a little annoying. Even, yeah, I need to, I'm considering flying down to Cape Town and not only to visit my friend, who's actually got, well, the one who sold me the anchor point and, and not the anchor point, the fourth axis and has a sample anchor point that they're going to start pushing locally, ah but to go beat a customer and break their machine affixed.
00:19:32
jamie peacock
because they haven't paid me and I invoiced them two weeks ago so I'm thinking I'm just going to go down and take their foot pedal for the machine and when I've been paid and for my flight you can have your foot pedal back because you sent it to me unannounced asked me to fix it I made a plan and did it and now you haven't paid so might need to just go down to Cape Town for the day
00:19:33
Curt
sounds aggressive ooh
00:19:49
Curt
yeah yeah just take the thug approach yeah
00:19:53
jamie peacock
yeah no I've asked nicely every time oh no we'll sort out tonight we'll sort out tonight like dudes you said you'd sort out on Friday you haven't sorted out now it's month end I've had enough now.
00:20:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:03
jamie peacock
I will go visit W.D. Hearn and go discuss fourth and fifth axes in person and go and break break the machine, not the kneecaps yet.
00:20:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:14
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, um i did some reading on the 828D, as in I read the brochure, which lead which leads me to some concerning conclusions.
00:20:23
Curt
Okay.
00:20:28
Curt
OK, hold on. Before we hit that, that quote that you got for the smart lathe, which control was that with?
00:20:30
jamie peacock
Yes. yeah one moment please do the do the singing Kurt do the singing
00:20:34
Curt
was that just Was that just with their Syntech control? Because I want to get a quote for one of their Swiss's now.
00:20:41
jamie peacock
ah
00:20:43
Curt
Because I knew they were cheap, but I just didn't know what they were that cheap.
00:20:47
jamie peacock
smart lathe that's not how you spell lathe Jamie
00:20:50
Curt
Just... Because there is a huge lull in the whole market when it comes to like, there's like entry level CNC machines galore. You can pick whatever budget you want for lathes. Not so much.
00:21:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:02
jamie peacock
Oh, by the way, it wasn't 13. It was 12,012.
00:21:03
Curt
Not that I'm really looking for an entry level, but.
00:21:08
Curt
Okay.
00:21:09
jamie peacock
That's for an SL36 with Y-access live tooling device.
00:21:13
Curt
That's insane.
00:21:13
jamie peacock
um They didn't give me like a full spec out.
00:21:15
Curt
That's insane.
00:21:17
jamie peacock
I need to ask them for a full spec out.
00:21:19
Curt
i would yeah i would assume I would assume that's going to be like a syntax control because that's a typical Asian control.
00:21:23
jamie peacock
i would assume it's I would assume it's a GSK because they're a little bit cheaper or it is their internal controller.
00:21:24
Curt
but
00:21:30
Curt
OK. OK.
00:21:31
jamie peacock
which it's a lathe, they're simple. It doesn't actually make a difference. You're not hand coding it with macros.
00:21:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:38
jamie peacock
You're pushing it from Fusion, so it doesn't actually make a difference.
00:21:41
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough.
00:21:42
jamie peacock
um Because I was ah was looking around on their website um to find out a bit more information about the their controller. Because if I go to options, it says... I know where it was in options. Okay.
00:21:59
jamie peacock
Yeah, this is the best, looking things up on the on the podcast.
00:22:02
Curt
Yeah,
00:22:03
jamie peacock
do do do do do Singing along. um Yeah, it looks like it's a Chinese controller by default, um but it does have options for GSK and Syntec.
00:22:10
Curt
yeah I would assume.
00:22:15
Curt
But even... um okay maybe it was our Swiss machines that that jumped up to Siemens, because that's what I was looking at, but...
00:22:20
jamie peacock
Probably, because...
00:22:21
Curt
Either or, 12 grand is crazy. Even if you throw in a $5,000 controller.
00:22:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, I would assume the Swiss's were a little bit more expensive than that.
00:22:29
jamie peacock
Because you obviously want something bigger than a 7mm. Like they jump straight to 20mm bar.
00:22:29
Curt
I would assume they'd be much more.
00:22:34
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:36
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:38
jamie peacock
Uses Sugami stuff, CNC controller, Syntec, optional Mitsubishi or Fanuc on their Swiss's.
00:22:38
Curt
I might have to.
00:22:45
Curt
yeah, yeah. Okay. I would probably just go Fanuc because I kind of, for some reason, my brain links up with Fanuc.
00:22:50
jamie peacock
speaking Speaking of... These guys, you're probably not going to be able to read it.
00:22:55
Curt
Ooh.
00:22:59
jamie peacock
Let me quickly type it in and send you a link. and These guys drew a Swiss, and that was the only Swiss at Machine Tool Africa.
00:23:09
jamie peacock
um And it was not, it was a 32mm through, so quite a big quite a big machine. And it was with the bar feeder. Hang on, let me put this thing in. Freedom Dollars.
00:23:27
jamie peacock
Just trying to make sure learning of there So not not and not unreasonably expensive, considering it's a twin spindle machine.
00:23:28
Curt
America. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
00:23:40
jamie peacock
knock
00:23:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:42
jamie peacock
It was a little bit over the top. Swiss lades.
00:23:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:47
jamie peacock
Ooh. Yeah, they started at 20 mil by the looks of it. Control C. Okay, for anyone who's interested, there we go. I put a link into the document.
00:23:54
Curt
Oh, yeah. Link it. Nice. Oh, yeah.
00:23:57
jamie peacock
know want to go grab it quickly, Kurt.
00:23:58
Curt
Ch-ch-ch-a-a-t. Yeah, I see why you pronounced that.
00:24:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, dude.
00:24:02
Curt
Yeah. it's That's not Jamie being insensitive.
00:24:03
jamie peacock
Yeah. Jamie.
00:24:05
Curt
It's literally like...
00:24:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, dude, it's.
00:24:07
Curt
What did I say? What did I just call you?
00:24:12
jamie peacock
o
00:24:12
Curt
Anyways, it's not Jamie being insensitive. It's like but pronounced like chai-chuan.
00:24:18
jamie peacock
I've never been insensitive ever in my life.
00:24:19
Curt
Chai...
00:24:21
jamie peacock
That's definitely not why the after show was horribly censored.
00:24:27
jamie peacock
yeah um anyway so yeah the the lathe yeah sorry i put it in the dock yeah they're quite big they're decent machines like they're proper whereas i don't know the the other thing that concerned me about the smart machines was the let me just reopen close tab here um the linear guide size
00:24:27
Curt
keep googling on a podcast oh they have okay those those are he hefty yeah
00:24:47
Curt
oh they're kind of tiny
00:24:48
jamie peacock
twenty fives
00:24:52
Curt
I mean, for the price, it's kind of like...
00:24:56
jamie peacock
Dude, it should be fine.
00:24:56
Curt
Like...
00:24:57
jamie peacock
In reality, it should be more than adequate.
00:24:57
Curt
If...
00:24:59
jamie peacock
I'm not, like, they recommend 50mm maximum workpiece diameter.
00:24:59
Curt
You know?
00:25:03
Curt
yeah. yeah
00:25:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, let's face it, that's not happening. I'm putting in, like, 80mm material because that's what I need it for. But if you've got feature, like, if I look at how...
00:25:09
Curt
Yeah, right.
00:25:12
jamie peacock
thing is, I don't know what machine this is that they're showing the cro the linear guards on because it looks very, very...
00:25:17
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:25:18
jamie peacock
The guards are very close together. Yeah.
00:25:21
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:21
jamie peacock
But, I mean, it should be fine. I would assume it's been engineered properly. China's making all the shit for the world, so I would assume they're using their own machines. Well, not assume. I know they're using their own machines.
00:25:30
Curt
yeah
00:25:32
jamie peacock
um But, yeah, for the price, it's a freaking killer deal.
00:25:35
Curt
that's insane it's just insane to me that they can build tools at that price and it's like i wish more manufacturers go down the lathe road because everyone's gone down the mill road like i was saying earlier and built every kind of flavor you'd want in every budget whereas mill or lathes and you can buy used and then you can buy like professional there's not like a cheap blade other than like tormach has a couple offerings um and that's
00:25:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:42
jamie peacock
Dude. Yeah.
00:25:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, but even that, that is such a small percentage of their sales that they're not really reinvesting in making any major revamps.
00:26:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:02
jamie peacock
Like, this has been a discussion with Norman on many, many Friday nights.
00:26:02
Curt
And like even...
00:26:06
Curt
Yeah. And like Sile makes one too, but like that already jumps up to a point where you can kind of look at other bigger machines and it's just like...
00:26:07
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:26:11
jamie peacock
it Yeah, i wouldn't I wouldn't go the style routes. I had a look at them at Machinesville Africa.
00:26:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:16
jamie peacock
it's ah It's too big of a machine. And again, it's got a 10 kilowatt spindle.
00:26:18
Curt
o Totally.
00:26:21
jamie peacock
or Sorry, not 10 kilowatt, 100 horsepower.
00:26:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:24
jamie peacock
um
00:26:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:25
jamie peacock
like It's got a giant spindle motor that's...
00:26:26
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:27
jamie peacock
Yes, sure, if you're turning 200 diameter, 100%. But there's nothing in that range for like... say, 20mm to 80mm. There's no real machines that fit that niche, whereas the smart machines seem to fit that niche pretty well.
00:26:42
jamie peacock
I mean, this has got a the 46 total power usage of 6kW.
00:26:48
Curt
Right. like And that's you don't the same thing. you don't You don't need gobloads of power.
00:26:49
jamie peacock
That's perfect. I can put it on my existing phase converter.
Fourth-Axis Workflow Innovations
00:26:54
jamie peacock
like Yeah.
00:26:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:54
Curt
No, totally. I'm um game.
00:26:55
jamie peacock
So we will see.
00:26:56
Curt
I'm game.
00:26:57
jamie peacock
um But yeah, also I'm waiting for SilverCNC to come back to me with pricing on Trunnions and 4th Axies.
00:27:05
Curt
Right, yeah. we're so yeah i'd like I'd like to hear what you what they get back to you on.
00:27:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, to compare. ah Did I give you the pricing on the GSA ones?
00:27:12
Curt
ah that was ah Was that the 5-axis trunnion? or
00:27:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, was $10,000, and then the the fourth was about four thousand
00:27:20
Curt
I don't know if you gave me the pricing, but now now now the listeners can also know it.
00:27:20
jamie peacock
from ga Okay, now you've got the pricing.
00:27:23
Curt
so
00:27:23
jamie peacock
and
00:27:23
Curt
Yeah. yeah yeah
00:27:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, so i was looking at the Silver C&C ones. They've got a really small one, but it doesn't have a break, and I want a break.
00:27:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:31
jamie peacock
Because most of my work is going to be positional.
00:27:34
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:27:35
jamie peacock
Even today, I was chatting to Danica, and I'm so tempted to just organize a Siemens motor and drive and put it on my current fourth axis as a stopgap measure before I buy a new fourth axis.
00:27:46
jamie peacock
It's got a bit of backlash, but it's fine. going to use it for positional. I just want to have it in the controller.
00:27:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:52
Curt
Yeah, like it's not a... I mean, it's probably your probably your cheaper way to go if you...
00:27:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, but we will see.
00:27:58
Curt
Like...
00:27:59
jamie peacock
i mean, I technically I can't get the work I'm doing done with a angled riser and a fourth axis.
00:28:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:08
jamie peacock
Because this week I was channeling my inner naughty performance.
00:28:08
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:28:12
jamie peacock
And yeah, it worked.
00:28:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:13
jamie peacock
It worked pretty well. Took forever, but worked pretty well.
00:28:17
Curt
That looked cool if for for the people listening.
00:28:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:19
Curt
I listened to our last podcast and we have so many things that we say that are like in the weeds between us or that are just done over video.
00:28:21
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:28:25
jamie peacock
oh yeah
00:28:26
Curt
I was kind of missing out on a few things. So I apologize to people. I will try to better explain in pure audio because I'm like, like I lifted up my shirt at one point and said, and we we laughed about it and no word was mentioned about anything about it.
00:28:35
jamie peacock
yeah oh yes speaking of shorts uh their new shirts dropping tomorrow and the old ones will be available but think till the end of the week and then danica's taking them off the website as well so new shirts tomorrow by the way um i will add a thing you have to say shirt link um
00:28:37
Curt
So I'll try to make sure we preface everything in audio.
00:28:43
Curt
Ooh.
00:28:50
Curt
Oh, that's actually another point I have here.
00:28:58
jamie peacock
Yes, so, naughty performance. So, if you want to see the pictures, actually, no, they were on my stories. So, they're gone now. Anyway, was turning a diffuser for, I believe, a missile. I'm not entirely sure.
00:29:12
jamie peacock
ah Turning some components for, oh, milling some components for that. And, yeah, turns out you can surface at a relatively high speeds with very small tools.
00:29:21
Curt
It looks, it looks for the people once again for the people listening, it looked like a turbine. like it It looked like a big cylindrical disc with like turbine veins around the outside, and then kind of spiral sort of like ah centrifugal blades on the face.
00:29:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:29
jamie peacock
with blades on the edge.
00:29:34
Curt
like it was It was a lot. I was impressed that you got that done.
00:29:36
jamie peacock
It's a cool pot, yeah. It's a cool pot.
00:29:38
Curt
It's a cool-looking part.
00:29:38
jamie peacock
I did it on the anchor point too.
00:29:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:39
jamie peacock
so put an anchor some The anchor point on the fourth axis is not running true. So I put a blank palette into that, turned the fourth axis and had an end mill there to make a round boss. but Took it off of there, put it into the anchor point on the table, probed that and used that as my work coordinate so I could work everything off of center of rotation other than my x-axis which moved.
00:29:50
Curt
Mm-mm.
00:30:00
jamie peacock
um But yeah, that worked that worked shockingly well. The guy's picking the parts up tomorrow morning.
00:30:05
Curt
i look
00:30:06
jamie peacock
And then he's going to complain, and then I'm going to tell him, well, we need a proper actual fucking fifth axis for these parts.
00:30:06
Curt
and da was that
00:30:12
Curt
did you Did you do like one blade and then orientate one blade orientate or did you do a few of them?
00:30:14
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:17
jamie peacock
No, did one at a time. I have to come onto the blade perpendicular.
00:30:18
Curt
One in time? Okay.
00:30:20
jamie peacock
That's why it had to be tilted down, so that I could be perpendicular to the vein.
00:30:21
Curt
Right. Gotcha.
00:30:25
Curt
gotcha Okay.
00:30:25
jamie peacock
or to the blade.
00:30:25
Curt
Gotcha.
00:30:26
jamie peacock
So yeah, i did I did one finish, so it was roughing, roughing, and then geodesic, the top of the blade.
00:30:26
Curt
Gotcha.
00:30:32
jamie peacock
Then i did two pencils around it to get a nice surface finish. And then I did a one ah radius one ball nose that I surfaced around it, and then I indexed, machined the next one.
00:30:37
Curt
yeah
00:30:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, 30 times at like a five-minute cycle on each one.
00:30:47
Curt
ah Okay, so I was... Okay, yeah.
00:30:51
jamie peacock
It was a little bit annoying.
00:30:53
Curt
Okay, i was one I was like, that looks john like well done, but i just didn't...
00:30:54
jamie peacock
And that... That is why I want a fourth axis integrated to my machine so that can just make the code and have it just do its thing and not have to stress about it.
00:30:59
Curt
Absolutely.
00:31:02
jamie peacock
so But yeah, the fourth axis workflow is it's ruining me.
00:31:03
Curt
Yeah, and it was...
00:31:07
Curt
how did you How did you do the the positional? like ah Because you like this is your machine. Once again, for the people listening, your indexing isn't tied directly into the machine yet, correct?
00:31:18
jamie peacock
No, it's a button. Push the button, and then you push cycle start again.
00:31:20
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:31:21
jamie peacock
So I push the button, it indexes 12 degrees, you hit cycle start, it runs the program.
00:31:22
Curt
Okay, so that's okay.
00:31:25
jamie peacock
When it's done, you hit index, and then cycle start again.
00:31:29
Curt
Okay, so you were there every five minutes going boop, boop, and then boop, boop, and then boop.
00:31:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, super simple. Yeah. Pretty much.
00:31:33
Curt
I got you. Okay, I got you.
00:31:34
jamie peacock
I haven't...
00:31:34
Curt
yeah I got you.
00:31:35
jamie peacock
There's a relay, so... i don't know how cells are built anyway uh you open the the little front hatch for the controller on the front of your machine there's a relay in there that's tied to my chip conveyor output so that's on m code i just set the m code turns on set the m code it turns off so that's how i plan on integrating into it i just didn't pull wires in yet but it's also a case of i should probably just get a proper fourth axis like properly integrated
00:31:49
Curt
a
00:31:57
Curt
Smart. Nice.
00:32:02
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:03
jamie peacock
We're goingnna see what it costs and then assess it from there.
00:32:04
Curt
yeah
00:32:07
jamie peacock
Because currently it works.
00:32:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:08
jamie peacock
like If it's dumb and it works, it isn't entirely dumb.
00:32:12
Curt
Yeah, well, you could almost get by with, you know, like the on the Homer Simpson episode where he has like the little Homer Simpson, what am I, 100 years old? The Simpsons. Where is that little like the little pecky birds?
00:32:18
jamie peacock
yeah The finger. yeah
00:32:21
Curt
The little bird that like sits on the keyboard and just like goes bop, bop, bop. Like you just need one of those that will peck every like five minutes. ah Two of them maybe. So you get both buttons.
00:32:29
jamie peacock
So I've designed a proper controller, well, designed ah another controller for the fourth axis.
00:32:29
Curt
Boop, boop.
00:32:35
jamie peacock
That's a neat little circuit board with a bunch of extra crap that isn't in this version. So it's got three optocoupled inputs, two relay outputs that all run down Ethernet cable to the electrical cabinets for the fourth axis, as well as all the motor controls, including an alarm feedback signal.
00:32:53
jamie peacock
um It's got a rotary encoder so you can set the number of steps and things like that.
00:32:57
jamie peacock
And I'm just holding off on ordering the boards like it's working. So don't need the new version. um But I'm holding off on ordering the boards until I have all the pricing together for actual proper
00:32:58
Curt
Yeah.
Exploring Automation and Efficiency Improvements
00:33:07
jamie peacock
fourth axis. Because I would rather go proper fourth axis than that.
00:33:11
jamie peacock
But yeah, we'll see. I've got those fancy brass parts made.
00:33:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:17
jamie peacock
They all went together. um And now they need them out of copper. So I'm like, I've got to buy bar of copper.
00:33:22
Curt
Ooh.
00:33:24
jamie peacock
You're getting as many parts as fit into that bar. That is the minimum water quantity.
00:33:28
jamie peacock
So I've designed a dovetail workholding for that.
00:33:28
Curt
Yeah, totally.
00:33:29
Curt
Yeah,
00:33:32
jamie peacock
So I'll chop the bars into, like, I'll probably just cut them all to their finished lengths and then put them in the vise and just quickly dovetail them. Then they slot into a dovetail fixture on the fourth that I can machine it and then tilt 90 degrees to machine the other feature, then tilt back 90 degrees and slitting saw them off.
00:33:50
jamie peacock
So they become a one-off part.
00:33:52
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:33:53
jamie peacock
One at a time, but one off part. So yeah, I do fourth axis.
00:33:56
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:33:57
jamie peacock
um yeah Those little PTFE things I did were also like, I love being able to just, it's being held for the one off. You turn it and you just poke a hole. The fourth axis workflow. Yeah, I'm trying not to let the invasive thoughts win though.
00:34:11
jamie peacock
Because I need a laying plate for it.
00:34:12
Curt
but
00:34:14
jamie peacock
Because I need something short and rigid for different work holding options. But I also don't want to wait if I order one from China. So I'm thinking I might just make one this week.
00:34:24
Curt
and Okay.
00:34:28
Curt
I see the intrusiveness here.
00:34:29
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:34:29
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:30
jamie peacock
A Fit The X-Style, make the thing out of 7075, make some hardened steel inserts. Like there's nothing that's unreasonably difficult.
00:34:39
Curt
yeah Yeah, well, you got a grinder, too, so, yeah.
00:34:39
jamie peacock
It would just be annoying. Exactly. And it would just be a little annoying to make the pull studs.
00:34:45
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair.
00:34:46
jamie peacock
But, i could or I could just go up the road and buy a set of pill studs for like $60 and then make it compatible with those pill studs, make my own base that directly couples to the fourth axis.
00:34:59
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:34:59
jamie peacock
Because my fourth axis doesn't have the big plate with the T-slots. It's got a 82mm boss with a set of M10 holes.
00:35:08
Curt
Okay, okay.
00:35:09
jamie peacock
So I could couple it, I could literally integrate that into the center of zero point system. zeropoint system
00:35:17
jamie peacock
So yeah, the intrusive thoughts have been almost winning. I fought them off for the interim, but I think they may just win this week.
00:35:25
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:27
jamie peacock
Because I have to order a bunch of aluminium anyway. So, hmm.
00:35:31
Curt
Yeah, that's, yeah.
00:35:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, you know, the the the thoughts happen. We try not to let them happen, but they happen.
00:35:38
Curt
I know I do that every like every cycle I go through.
00:35:39
jamie peacock
um Yeah.
00:35:41
Curt
Same thing. i like I'll put things off to the cal. I'll order these tools once I finish this batch. Then I'm like, OK, the next batch, then I'll order these tools. So I'm not just spending every single thing I make on like upgrades because that's I did that for a year and it's rough.
00:35:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:53
jamie peacock
I did that last year, and that's why we didn't have a buffer going into customers not placing orders. so
00:35:53
Curt
um
00:35:58
Curt
Right. Yeah, yeah.
00:35:59
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I'm trying to be more responsible about that. Before we continue, Kurt, did you know we have a Patreon?
00:36:04
Curt
Yeah, man.
00:36:06
Curt
Oh, I did not tell me more.
00:36:07
jamie peacock
Yes. So we have a Patreon where you can get access to the after show as well as Q&As and other things. um Thank you to all our Patreons who make the wheels on the podcast go round and round.
00:36:19
jamie peacock
A special thank you to Jade for benchmark twenty lu from Luke from Fabtastic, AJ from Subtract Manufacturing, and EJ from Laternal Welding. ah You guys are on the top tier, and thank you to everyone else who helps make the wheels on the bus go round and round.
00:36:33
jamie peacock
um That's making us not stay in South Chicago in September next year. Because it's nearly a year away.
00:36:40
Curt
I think, yeah, man, time flies, time flies.
00:36:41
jamie peacock
Yay! I'm excited. It does. It really does. But yeah, thank you to the Patreons. also a companion guide, which may become very handy in the next two weeks or so.
00:36:52
jamie peacock
ah There'll be more information on that when... when other things come to light. But yeah, companion guide on the website, theloanemachinist.com, which helps explain some of the fun words I use.
00:37:02
Curt
Oh, speaking of fun words, I heard a show a word in the last episode. I don't know if it's the same that carries out everywhere else. What do you what do you call like um that marker that you use on your lathe to write?
00:37:13
Curt
you call Did you call it a chalky?
00:37:14
jamie peacock
Oh, that, uh, it's a chalk marker.
00:37:17
Curt
Yeah, but what did you call it? Did you call it a chalky or you called it something like that?
00:37:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, Cokie.
00:37:22
jamie peacock
Might have been a, yeah, Cokie.
00:37:22
Curt
Cokie.
00:37:23
Curt
Yeah, okay.
00:37:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's, like a Sharpie. I don't know where the name actually came from, but I just know them as Cokies. Probably because you can stop them.
00:37:29
Curt
Weird, okay. Okay, I was like, what is a Koki?
00:37:32
jamie peacock
actually, I have no idea.
00:37:34
Curt
I figured it out from context, but ah was like, a Koki?
00:37:35
jamie peacock
Yeah. um
00:37:37
Curt
Interesting. was like, is that just like a South African hack for a Sharpie?
00:37:38
jamie peacock
Hang on. It must be.
00:37:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, it must be because I'm going ask Danica to look it up quickly because she will be able to tell me very quickly.
00:37:42
Curt
Just like a Koki?
00:37:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:48
jamie peacock
um
00:37:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:49
jamie peacock
That's if she looks at her phone. um Where does Koki come from?
00:38:00
Curt
yeah
00:38:01
jamie peacock
She's going to come to the bottom of the stairs now.
00:38:01
Curt
To me, it just sounds,
00:38:02
jamie peacock
and ah Cool, I got a message on my PC because her WhatsApp's installed here.
00:38:08
jamie peacock
Anyway, I might just mute and shout for another.
00:38:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:10
jamie peacock
But yeah, okay, cool. We will find out where that is. I'm going to do that now. i don't know how to spell it properly. So I've just spelled it as a koki, as in a white-nosed koki.
00:38:20
Curt
Yeah, that's kind of how read it as.
00:38:21
jamie peacock
But yeah.
00:38:21
Curt
And i was like, what is he talking about?
00:38:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, no.
00:38:23
Curt
Obviously, he's figured it out. But was just curious. so Yeah.
00:38:25
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm kind of curious as to where that where that comes because the brand Sharpie is not huge here. I'm trying to think who who the main brand is. But yeah Danica will find that out for us and let me know.
00:38:36
jamie peacock
If not in this episode, in the next episode. um But yeah, so what have you been ah making blasting jigs for? ah assume your pens, but...
00:38:45
Curt
ah Yeah, I got a blast a billion of those. Like we've talked about automating the system. And the more I do it, the more I'm like, to Jamie's right. I got to automate this. This is just, this is the most tedious and annoying and boring thing possible.
00:38:58
Curt
um
00:38:58
jamie peacock
Um...
00:38:59
Curt
And I mask it because i want to I want to keep the blasting media from going inside the pen. So I have like a long tube and then I wanted to make it easy.
00:39:03
jamie peacock
Sure.
00:39:04
Curt
So I put it, i basically made the inside of a pen, but all out of like PTFE. And just because I had PTFE and it machines easily.
00:39:09
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:39:11
Curt
um So I basically opened the pen.
00:39:11
jamie peacock
And machines beautifully.
00:39:13
Curt
Yeah, open the pen, jam one in, close the pen up. And then i can just go buck wild on it because all the important parts are masked off.
00:39:17
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:39:19
Curt
um but it's just it's a job i hate the most and that's why i was i was looking at vapor hones because then i could do it i don't put any blasting up here in the in the garage where i work because i don't want the the material in the air so i do it in my little compressor room in the basement of my house because it's soundproof it there's not a single window in it it's completely soundproof and it's basically like i have air filtration in there so i can like it's sealed from the rest of the house which is a really cool room to have and like when i
00:39:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:33
jamie peacock
In your dungeon, yes.
00:39:42
jamie peacock
Yeah. Isn't that your Dexter room that your workshop used to be in?
00:39:47
Curt
Absolutely, yeah. And when when I bought the house, people are like, ah what was going on in this room?
00:39:48
jamie peacock
Okay, cool. Yes.
00:39:52
Curt
Because it was like it's completely insulated. it's like ands like i figured out the previous homeowner, they used it as a cold room.
00:39:56
jamie peacock
Yeah. I remember... Yeah.
00:40:00
Curt
like They made a little cold room out of it.
00:40:00
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:40:01
Curt
Because I'm like, this is 100% for a growing weed.
00:40:02
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:03
Curt
like People are growing weed in here. But no, it was it was a cold room. Yeah.
00:40:06
jamie peacock
cold room okay because i remember when you moved you moved from the little shed like the tiny shed to the to the basement the dexter basement yeah yeah
00:40:10
Curt
yeah
00:40:12
Curt
To the to the deck Dexter room? Yeah. I like the Dexter room. But by anyways, yeah, that's where my compressors live and that's where all the dirty stuff lives. But so I go in that room and it's just like, so there's two big compressors running in there. I have my headphones on and I'm blasting. It's hot as hell. There's no light. It's fluorescent.
00:40:27
Curt
And this is like, it's the worst little place to be and it's the job I hate. So yeah, I think ah i think getting a vapor hone would be nice because then i could put it up here in the in the main shop where it's quiet away from the nasty compressors. And then vapor honing, there's no dust.
00:40:40
Curt
It's all just collected in the... in the liquid.
00:40:42
jamie peacock
It's all mud.
00:40:43
Curt
So I, yeah, it's all mud. So I might, I feel much less scared about putting that next to precision machines, quote precision machines.
00:40:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:49
jamie peacock
Sure.
00:40:50
Curt
So yeah.
00:40:52
jamie peacock
I was going to send you a link for a little stepper driver, but then I thought, let me not, because you're probably just going to write a sketch on an Arduino that drives a stepper to do your your automations for blasting.
00:40:52
Curt
And, oh no.
00:41:02
Curt
It's like I said, it could be done. It could be done purely mechanical. It to be smart. um
00:41:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, but you've got Arduino's kicking around.
00:41:08
Curt
ah I see. Dude, you know the problem is I still have that stupid like arm open. That robot arm open on my... I just need an excuse. It's like five grand. I told you to buy the whole kit. and i just want I just want to play with it.
00:41:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, I don't know how well that's going to do with the dust, though.
00:41:23
Curt
And this is a perfect excuse.
00:41:26
Curt
it would be that It would be completely outside. like It wouldn't be anywhere inside the chamber.
00:41:30
jamie peacock
a
00:41:30
Curt
like I would just cut a hole and just let it feed in.
00:41:31
jamie peacock
I would still do, nah, do what the Kuka and Fnook guys do.
00:41:35
Curt
Don't talk.
00:41:36
jamie peacock
Put a giant condom over it.
00:41:38
Curt
Oh, yeah. 100% I would.
00:41:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:40
Curt
Because I would, A, make it look cool. And if someone came in here, they'd be like, what are what is going on in here, you you savage, scientific little creature, you?
00:41:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Integrating Robotics in Manufacturing
00:41:47
Curt
And I'd be like, don't don't touch that arm. It's very sophisticated. I didn't just make it.
00:41:51
jamie peacock
It's covered for special use.
00:41:53
Curt
It's covered because it's very important. Yeah, so didn't want to... excuse But anyway, something like that would be a lot of fun. Because I just i kind of trying to track my time and see how much time I spend on stuff.
00:42:00
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:42:00
Curt
And finishing is just monstrous. It's just amazing. Like, I spend the same amount of time finishing that I do machining.
00:42:03
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:42:05
Curt
So it's like... I got to find i got find efficiencies there.
00:42:07
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:42:10
jamie peacock
Robots. Build a robot, Kurt. I'm not meant to encourage you, but build a robot.
00:42:12
Curt
Hell yeah, man. No, do it. Dude, I'm on the edge. like I just need a little the littlest push.
00:42:17
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:42:19
jamie peacock
Dude, you literally motor on an axis if I can feed it through a hole. Come on.
00:42:23
Curt
Like I told you, I could go to my i could go to my barbecue store and and buy a rotisserie unit, and that would be all I need.
00:42:24
jamie peacock
Do it Danny Rudolph style.
00:42:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:42:29
Curt
But yeah, that was...
00:42:30
jamie peacock
That's all you need. The yeah thing is, if you can have it load and unload by itself, that would be better.
00:42:35
Curt
that's why I was thinking the arm. Not because I wanted to be cool, but because I knew I could put an array out and I could just have it, but like, pick pick a pen up, put a pen, open an arm.
00:42:40
jamie peacock
yeah Three axis gantry, Kurt. Three axis gantry.
00:42:45
Curt
Can you imagine just looking in here?
00:42:46
jamie peacock
Three axis gantry.
00:42:47
Curt
For the Instagram alone, just taking a video of me opening the door and seeing the arm is, oop, oop, oop.
00:42:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, fair enough.
00:42:53
Curt
That's got to be worth something.
00:42:53
jamie peacock
I just don't know how accurate those arms are. Like, I really...
00:42:55
Curt
I don't care. i'll make I'll make a big cone so it can find but i find the pen.
00:42:57
jamie peacock
what is What is it? It's the AR4.
00:42:59
Curt
and Yeah, AR4. they're I think they'd be accurate enough to do that.
00:43:03
jamie peacock
I like the ah like that it comes straight up when I type AR4. I want
00:43:11
Curt
Yeah, I just...
00:43:11
jamie peacock
to see if there's a specs.
00:43:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:14
jamie peacock
Resources. There's...
00:43:16
Curt
Oh, no. someone Someone sent me a link. I will put it, if I if i find it, I'll put it in the show notes show notes. They sent me a link on Instagram.
00:43:22
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:43:23
Curt
They said, if you're if you're considering the AR4, they're like, do this arm instead. It's built way better. It's still like something that you can build.
00:43:29
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:43:30
Curt
And it looked rather impressive. ah I have no idea where they are in my chat, but I will search them. And if I find the link, I will include it in the show notes. And it's definitely worth a peek. So check the show notes and see if I was smart and got it in there.
00:43:43
Curt
And if I didn't,
00:43:43
jamie peacock
I'm adding a link.
00:43:44
Curt
then yell at me. i don't know.
00:43:46
jamie peacock
um
00:43:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:47
jamie peacock
So one of the interesting things that I saw at imts was this ctrl c i'm just going to throw it in the show notes and do you mind grabbing from the show notes do you know why it is a cobot when you look at it
00:43:58
Curt
Absolutely not. Ooh, Jim.
00:44:05
Curt
Excuse me. um No. Why is it? Oh, is it just because it's not beefy enough to hurt somebody?
00:44:10
jamie peacock
du du dance singing sorry i sent kurt a link know he looks frozen that's uh concerning
00:44:16
Curt
Oh, oh, oh, I've lost Jamie.
00:44:19
jamie peacock
I believe in you, Kurt. You opened a link and now it's broken. Anyway, I posted a link for the Argus Cobot.
00:44:22
Curt
That also probably means Jamie's talking right now. So I'm just going to be quiet.
00:44:26
jamie peacock
um Don't know that it's the best value for money, but yeah, the guys from Gimbal had some things to say about it. Oh no, we seem to have lost Kurt. Did he click the wrong button?
00:44:38
jamie peacock
Oh wait, there we go. He's back.
00:44:42
jamie peacock
This is going to be an interesting podcast. A lot of links and a lot of...
00:44:49
jamie peacock
Okay,
00:44:54
jamie peacock
okay and we're back after the Argus website broke curts Kurt's computer.
00:44:58
Curt
I don't know what the hell happened.
00:45:00
jamie peacock
ah Anyway, I sent him a link for the Argus cobot. Would you like to know why it is classified as a cobot?
00:45:04
Curt
Yes.
00:45:06
jamie peacock
It's not because it has motion or load sensing or anything like that. Because normally cobots, if they detect a ah load, they will...
00:45:13
Curt
Is it...
00:45:16
jamie peacock
um
00:45:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:18
jamie peacock
Yeah, they'll alarm out.
00:45:19
Curt
I.E.
00:45:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, not this one.
00:45:20
Curt
I.E. your skull. in
00:45:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, this is under 8.5 kilograms, so it doesn't need to have any of that.
00:45:22
Curt
Yeah. Is it just because...
00:45:28
Curt
Oh, really? Okay, there's...
00:45:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:45:29
Curt
Okay, I didn't know there was like a... I guess there had to be some sort of stipulation.
00:45:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, there's a cutoff for it, but yeah, not the most accurate thing in the world, but Ford do you want to do probably fine, and guess what happens if grit gets into the gearbox?
00:45:45
Curt
Bad things?
00:45:45
jamie peacock
It's a 20 cents spare part because it's an injection molded gearbox.
00:45:49
Curt
Oh, really?
00:45:51
jamie peacock
So, oh, it wore out.
00:45:52
Curt
Oh...
00:45:52
jamie peacock
You just buy a replacement part for the gearbox and carry on with your day.
00:45:56
Curt
Okay, so you can have it you can have like a handful of them just like on hand.
00:45:59
jamie peacock
They're not cheap. They're like $5,000 for the spares.
00:46:03
Curt
No, I mean the gearbox, sorry. Right, right, right.
00:46:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, you can have spares for the gearboxes. It's a strain wave gearbox.
00:46:07
Curt
Right, right, right.
00:46:08
jamie peacock
But their main selling thing is the replacement parts are next to nothing.
00:46:13
Curt
That's interesting.
00:46:13
jamie peacock
And for what you're trying to do, it's actually not a horrible plan. Not as fun as building a robot from scratch, but not a horrible plan.
00:46:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:22
Curt
Not as fun. and not as Not expensive, but Interesting.
00:46:26
jamie peacock
Because what is ah what is one of the AR4's full kit run you? um
00:46:32
Curt
Five-ish grand.
00:46:33
jamie peacock
Really?
00:46:35
Curt
wi Like, if you want everything. If you want the machine parts, if you want all the electronics, if you want all the...
00:46:37
jamie peacock
Machine parts are $800. $800.
00:46:40
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:46:41
jamie peacock
Okay, the motors and that, the stepper kit can't be that cheap.
00:46:43
Curt
Hardware, stepper kit, all that stuff tied together.
00:46:46
jamie peacock
It's 600 pounds hardware. I'm just adding this all to my cart because I need a...
00:46:52
Curt
ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:46:53
jamie peacock
Okay, now I'm not because the website's slow. So that's now gone away.
00:46:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:57
jamie peacock
Don't feel like dealing with that. Anyway, yeah, so build a robot, Kurt. That's the gist of it.
00:47:03
Curt
yeah Yeah.
00:47:04
jamie peacock
Come to the dark side.
00:47:04
Curt
it's First, first stage, first thing to do is, uh, follow up with the lovely people that sell the vapor hone. Cause they, they said, send us parts. We'll vapor hone them for you and send them back to make sure it's to finish you.
00:47:16
jamie peacock
Ah, okay.
00:47:16
Curt
Like, so I'll do that. And then, uh, I'll probably buy one of the vapor homes.
00:47:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:20
Curt
Cause the vapor homes are actually very inexpensive.
00:47:22
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:47:22
Curt
way, way cheaper than me building one. Like just let's buy a completed unit.
00:47:24
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, you may as well if it's not silly expensive.
00:47:26
Curt
And, uh, and, and then once that's done, yeah, then I can, then I can start going down the crazy automated path. So, oh, that's the fun.
00:47:33
jamie peacock
The fun path, yes.
00:47:36
Curt
Yeah. That's, that's stuff that lights me up.
00:47:38
jamie peacock
How consistent is the the vapor honing?
00:47:38
Curt
I kind of like that stuff.
00:47:41
jamie peacock
Ah, okay.
00:47:42
Curt
i don't I don't know. i'm assuming I'm assuming the finer you go, the just like blasting, or is what I found in blasting, the finer you go, it gets more consistent because you just even if you delay like if you sit on one spot, it's just not going to get any more blasted.
00:47:44
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:47:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:58
jamie peacock
ah kind know cause i was wondering about a row potentially rolling your pens through, doing the ends, then rolling it from the ends and doing the middle.
00:47:58
Curt
um So I'm assuming...
00:48:06
Curt
Right. Well, thankfully this...
00:48:06
jamie peacock
So you literally just feed them through and they just roll through the thing.
00:48:08
Curt
Yeah. Oh, I gotcha. I gotcha.
00:48:12
jamie peacock
That could be a very, very simple way of doing it.
00:48:15
Curt
In this case, um I wouldn't need to. Like, I only, for the specific pen, I only do the, but like, I don't have to worry about the ends.
00:48:20
jamie peacock
yeah yeah
00:48:21
Curt
I just have to worry about the body face. Like, the ah but if it's a rolling pin, I only have to worry about part that the dough touches.
00:48:26
jamie peacock
the rolling pin part yeah yeah yeah that might be ah that might be a pretty simple solution is two little belts that you just it spins as it rolls and then rolls through but yeah it also depends how narrow the the beam of the vape owners or the the shooting this oh okay interesting
00:48:26
Curt
ah The rolling pin part. So, yeah, that would actually be an option. Yeah, yeah, that would be an option for sure.
00:48:36
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:43
Curt
Yeah, I think you can him you can get them pretty fat and pretty wide. I just, yeah, can get a pretty big fan nozzle on them. So yeah, something to consider for sure. That's interesting.
00:48:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's the thing. is's a million ways to solve ah solve the same problem.
00:48:56
Curt
Or i mean there's like other options, right? can do like magnetic, like pin tumbling. I can do stupid fine, like micro bead tumbling.
00:49:05
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:49:06
Curt
There's a lot of different ways to go to go about it. Okay.
00:49:08
jamie peacock
Speaking of tumbling, you still using your bucket?
00:49:12
Curt
yeah yeah that thing puts in the work
00:49:14
jamie peacock
Okay, cool. Mine I took the motor off of. I need to put another motor on my bucket because I've got some stuff that's going to need to be tumbled in the next few weeks.
00:49:22
Curt
i think i'm gonna think i'm gonna uh go the uh the smooth smooth precision pen wrote and buy a few of those extreme tumblers and just they're they're not they're not all that expensive for what they are they're built like tanks and they're perfect for my product size so i'll buy a few of them and then
00:49:29
jamie peacock
Dude, those things are so nice. Yeah.
00:49:34
jamie peacock
Yeah. That was actually something that I thoroughly enjoyed at IMTS was seeing all the finishing stuff because there was none of that at Machine Tool Africa or Electro Mining.
00:49:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:46
jamie peacock
There was literally none of that. So it's very cool to actually see different options for finishing different tumbling medias because here we get tumbling media.
Pet Product Design and Market Challenges
00:49:55
jamie peacock
That's it. The one.
00:49:57
Curt
Right, right, right, right.
00:49:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's a little a little frustrating. um But yeah, anyway. um Oh, yes. You saw my last thing I added while we were setting up for the podcast.
00:50:09
Curt
Yes, tell me more.
00:50:09
jamie peacock
we' we're walking yeah We're walking the dog's test.
00:50:10
Curt
ah
00:50:12
jamie peacock
You know those stupid retractable leads you get for your doggos?
00:50:15
Curt
Yes, of course.
00:50:16
jamie peacock
ah Do you know remember what happens when when you yeah when you put 90-pound dog on that?
00:50:17
Curt
for Not for real doggos, for but cat dogs.
00:50:22
jamie peacock
You know what happens?
00:50:23
Curt
I imagine parts.
00:50:24
jamie peacock
It explodes.
00:50:25
Curt
yeah
00:50:25
jamie peacock
Yeah. So Danica was like, she would really like me to look at making one that is rated for dipshit and stinky. So I'm looking at making us a set of billet aluminum ones with like a three meter lead that we can let them run out.
00:50:39
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:50:40
jamie peacock
But if you, you basically, you have to hold the button to let it freewheel. And if you let go of the button, it's going to just lock.
00:50:45
Curt
Right.
00:50:47
jamie peacock
And the dog is at that length and is going no further without dragging you along. Because it is nice to let them, because if it's spring loaded, it doesn't get caught on their feet as well.
00:50:52
Curt
Right.
00:50:56
Curt
Right.
00:50:56
jamie peacock
Because Drax goes back and forth, back and forth, and the freaking thing loops around his leg.
00:50:56
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:51:00
jamie peacock
So yeah, she wants me to now make on something.
00:51:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:02
jamie peacock
like, yeah, obviously, build it to aluminium. Like, let's not play games.
00:51:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:05
jamie peacock
Buy some tape measures, smash them apart for their springs, and then it can self-recoil. And if you let go of the button, it's literally going to be ratcheted with a plate, and it's going to jam up until you deform that piece of plate.
00:51:11
Curt
yeah
00:51:19
Curt
Yeah, I like this option.
00:51:19
jamie peacock
So yeah, I now have that as a background project in my mind and to make a set of those in awesome purple.
00:51:29
Curt
You know what?
00:51:29
jamie peacock
Because obviously.
00:51:30
Curt
Honestly, i don't know if it exists, but if it didn't exist, like I like I need it for the reason of just, like you said, collecting leash. Like there's some places where I have to keep my dog on leash.
00:51:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:38
Curt
And I usually have ah i have a long leash for her in those instances because I'm like, she just wants to sniff around and play. And like and she's she's trained enough that she'll come to me if I need it.
00:51:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:45
Curt
But like same thing, just being able to reel the leash back in and out so she's not stepping all over it. That would be so valuable.
00:51:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:51
Curt
And then same thing, have it so I know if if it needed it, like it's not going to explode in my hand.
00:51:51
jamie peacock
Because... Yeah. Because, I mean, we took the dogs this morning, but every dipshit had their dog there, and most people's dogs are not well-behaved. So normally we let Kano off-lead, and she will go... If we go out of sight, she reappears very quickly, because she's quite clingy.
00:52:09
jamie peacock
um And then she wanted to run in the aquifer, and then we couldn't really have her off-lead, some dickhead was coming with a little Scotty that was turd. Um... And yeah, I kept Drax on lead the whole time, but he likes to wander a bit.
00:52:22
jamie peacock
He also learned that if I'm on one side of the pole, he doesn't get to go the other side because I'll just stop and hold the lead until he backs up.
00:52:29
Curt
yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:30
jamie peacock
But yeah, the thing's obviously got to be a little bit bulletproof because it's ah it's a 45-kilogram Rottweiler that when he decides, like Danica reckons with her longer lead, she's had to run after Kainer because Kainer's decided she's going somewhere and you are getting dragged.
00:52:31
Curt
yeah
00:52:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:45
jamie peacock
And if you don't run, you get dragged. Like the amount of power with this dog the dogs have is quite impressive because, I mean, they are cart dogs, so makes sense.
00:52:51
Curt
and Sure. Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:52:54
jamie peacock
But yeah, so Danica's asking me to make ah a fancy a fancy or self-retracting lead.
00:52:56
Curt
That's interesting.
00:53:00
jamie peacock
So I was thinking, oh yeah, now i'm going the rabbit hole of how overcomplicated do I make it?
00:53:01
Curt
Hmm.
00:53:07
jamie peacock
This is a diving spool that I made. But yeah, I was thinking, do I make the, because we're only going to make them like two and a half, three meters long. So not super long, but long enough that the dog can still get a bit of distance from you.
00:53:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:18
jamie peacock
Um, so I need to get that much webbing, roll up that much webbing and see how big a spool I need and then design everything else around that, that limitation.
00:53:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:27
Curt
Oh, I can see this like nice skeletonized case with an anodized purple spool inside.
00:53:32
jamie peacock
A hundred percent.
00:53:34
Curt
And and have like a have like a sort of clip so you can have it on your belt.
00:53:34
jamie peacock
It's going to be spiffy.
00:53:37
Curt
Like have like a positive mount to you so you could just...
00:53:39
jamie peacock
Uh, that's a quick way to dar.
00:53:42
Curt
Well, okay. for like for my my
00:53:44
jamie peacock
For normal people, dogs. Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
00:53:46
Curt
Yeah, my girl doesn't want to run around. she wants She wants to sniff and play.
00:53:47
jamie peacock
yeah
00:53:48
Curt
And like if she sees a rabbit nowadays, she's smart enough to know like rabbits are fast AF. I'm not going to catch them. So she's like, I'll just, I'll let you be. So I just needed to...
00:53:55
jamie peacock
or Draxor meerkat the last time. So we're walking along through the one section of forest, and I can check him.
00:53:59
Curt
Okay. Yeah.
00:54:01
jamie peacock
me just All of a sudden, he just locks in. like, oh, cool. There must be something in the bush. And as one this thing's looking at him, and he's like, he wants to go. But he knows, if don't tell him he can go, he's not going. So he had to stare at him and walk past it. He was not super impressed.
00:54:15
jamie peacock
but yeah That's like karate dussey. We get dusseys in our yard here. And a single dussey beats up my 245 kilogram Rottweilers. Adassi's this fucking big.
00:54:23
Curt
What?
00:54:25
jamie peacock
It's a...
00:54:25
Curt
Okay. so
00:54:26
jamie peacock
It is a rope.
00:54:26
Curt
A wrap.
00:54:27
jamie peacock
Actually, no, not sure if... It's like a big fucking rat. It's actually the closest relative to an elephant. But they're creepy little vegetarian bastards.
00:54:33
Curt
That's very weird. too
00:54:35
jamie peacock
They don't carry rabies, but their mouths are so fucking disgusting that we had to put the dog under so that they could clean out the wounds on her face. Because Kena thought it was playing.
00:54:43
Curt
Yikes.
00:54:45
jamie peacock
So it was play-bowing it, and it had ripped both sides of her face open. And she was like, let's play, friend.
00:54:50
Curt
Oh, oh.
00:54:51
jamie peacock
um they broke its leg but yeah i managed to chase it out the garden because didn't feel dealing with a dead animal as i went to die somewhere else and then a few weeks after that i came out the back back of the workshop and i could see the dogs were being busy in the bottom of the yard but they didn't want to come to me so i walked down and they've got a dusky well it was a dusky two rottweilers pulled
00:55:10
Curt
Mm-mm.
00:55:15
jamie peacock
It became a two-piece dasi.
00:55:15
Curt
Oh, that's...
00:55:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, no so they got their revenge on karate dasi. um But yeah, that's a problem. Like we have dasis in myy yard because one of our neighbors feeds the things. And then, yeah, dia like they have a habit of getting into your ceiling and then pissing your ceiling broken.
00:55:25
Curt
Yeah, I'll do it.
00:55:31
jamie peacock
Because our ceilings all drywall here. So they, yeah, it's a problem.
00:55:34
Curt
right.
00:55:34
jamie peacock
Like they get in, they move into your ceiling and it's a frigging huge issue. Especially that way about a block. um There's a bunch of rocks around the houses and that's a huge problem there with them getting into the roofs.
00:55:48
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, so making boob snoot retention devices.
00:55:48
Curt
Well, I... Yeah, mark me down. Mark me down for one if you make one.
00:55:55
jamie peacock
Well, danica Danica knows the people at the dog club quite well. So she's going to take it to the to dog training and say, listen, I've got this.
00:56:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:03
jamie peacock
It's not cheap. If you want one, we can make them, but it's a freakin pre it's a premium product. It's billet aluminum.
00:56:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:09
jamie peacock
And yeah, like it's going to be overkill because it's me.
00:56:10
Curt
hey
00:56:14
Curt
Yeah, I like this idea.
00:56:14
jamie peacock
So yeah that's not yeah that's now another thing that I get to to work on.
00:56:20
Curt
I like this idea. I very much like this. idea I like, yeah, anyways, people love spending money on their pets.
00:56:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, it's a fancy idea. Also...
00:56:25
Curt
That's a nice thing.
00:56:25
jamie peacock
ah no, they do. Like, people love spending money on their pets. FedEx fucked up.
Logistics and Customer Service Solutions
00:56:30
Curt
Oh yeah. I heard about this. Okay. Tell, tell the listener, tell the listener what's happened.
00:56:34
jamie peacock
ah To quote EJ, some Elvis impersonator has liberated his his French flag anchor point that went missing in Memphis, Tennessee with FedEx.
00:56:46
jamie peacock
They cannot find it.
00:56:46
Curt
Oh no.
00:56:47
jamie peacock
So I'm waiting for out the insurance claim.
00:56:48
Curt
Oh no.
00:56:50
jamie peacock
The most frustrating part of it is now when I ship him a replacement, has to pay tariffs. because it was shipped before the Diminus went away, now he's got to pay additional tariffs because of ah Cheeto.
00:56:58
Curt
Oh, right, yeah.
00:57:01
jamie peacock
Speaking of the Cheeto, South Park Season 27 is amazing.
00:57:02
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:57:05
Curt
um Okay, I'll just check this out.
00:57:07
jamie peacock
Dude. No, no, dude. It's amazing. um So paramount Paramount wanted to censor.
00:57:15
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:57:15
jamie peacock
um Yeah, okay. Do you know how they got around that?
00:57:20
Curt
No.
00:57:20
jamie peacock
They put R's on it and claimed it's a character. You can't censor a character. You can't blur out a character. That's how they managed to keep it in the show.
00:57:26
Curt
Okay. Wow. Wow.
00:57:29
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, season 27 we watched episode 3 today. It was really, yeah, it's really fucking hilarious. um But yeah, anyway, FedEx fucked up and now it's going to cost EJ like another $150 in import duties.
00:57:41
Curt
Did you do you have full coverage on that for insurance?
00:57:44
jamie peacock
Yeah. I'm waiting for the insurance to pay out for it.
00:57:45
Curt
Okay. Well, let let me know.
00:57:46
jamie peacock
I'm going to, yeah.
00:57:49
Curt
Is it insured third party or through FedEx?
00:57:52
jamie peacock
through through tunnel and FedEx not entirely sure I'll speak to them tomorrow
00:57:55
Curt
Okay. Okay, let me know how the payment goes out because ah I've had, a show well, not not for me personally, but a company I work for, we file the claim through FedEx and it just, it never got processed.
00:58:02
jamie peacock
yeah
00:58:06
Curt
Like it was many, many, many years in the process.
00:58:07
jamie peacock
Oh, annoying. Okay. No, I think Tunnel are quite on it.
00:58:10
Curt
And it was, and yeah.
00:58:11
jamie peacock
I think it's through because had to fill out their insurance claim form. So, and they seem to be pretty on it.
00:58:14
Curt
Okay.
00:58:15
jamie peacock
So we'll see what happens because yeah, the annoying thing is I had made him the extra little vave valve mounting block for his table that was in there with all the fittings and shit.
00:58:25
Curt
oh the pretty one.
00:58:25
jamie peacock
It's like, it wasn't just the anchor point.
00:58:26
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:27
jamie peacock
I've thrown a bunch of extra shit in there. But it's fine.
00:58:30
Curt
Bummer.
00:58:30
jamie peacock
He's going to get my my current one that was on my machine. I'm just going to send that to him. Because I need to make a new one because I can't mount my old one where I had it mounted. So I've been using an air gun up my fourth axis's butt to release the anchor point.
00:58:38
Curt
Gotcha. Gotcha.
00:58:43
jamie peacock
Because I just haven't bothered plumbing it up properly yet.
00:58:44
Curt
Right.
00:58:47
Curt
Right.
00:58:47
jamie peacock
But yeah, that was that's a little infuriating that they they managed to lose that.
00:58:52
Curt
Well, i'm I'm glad you have insurance coverage on it. Like i was, ah was, I was like, Oh, I hope Jamie has coverage on that.
00:58:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:58:57
Curt
So good.
00:58:58
jamie peacock
Wouldn't be the biggest hits on the batch two of anchor points, but still would be annoying.
00:59:01
Curt
like Yeah. Yeah. You got kind of roasted on that one, but still it's, yeah.
00:59:04
jamie peacock
Yeah. But yeah, hopefully hopefully ah two weeks time endeavor will result in some sales because sales have been a bit sluggish.
00:59:05
Curt
ah Yeah.
00:59:12
jamie peacock
But the more the more it's in the market, the more I think I'm finding its niche.
00:59:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:16
jamie peacock
Its niche is the fact that its per pallet cost is so low.
00:59:17
Curt
Hmm.
00:59:21
Curt
No, totally. Yeah, yeah.
00:59:22
jamie peacock
Like that is its selling point.
00:59:22
Curt
That's a dream. Right. Yeah.
00:59:24
jamie peacock
It's not necessarily like if I put the price up to compensate for tariffs and I say to the guys, OK, guys, sorry, it's now $750. We pay the tariffs. I don't think that would be a ah huge issue, um and like a huge hindrance to sales, because it literally leaves here, it arrives, tariffs are done.
00:59:33
Curt
right
00:59:40
jamie peacock
Or I'm going to make an American shipping option. One of the two. um And if we do that and we focus on the selling point, not being that it's the cheapest one, but the per pallet cost is the cheapest.
00:59:53
jamie peacock
And that would be, yeah.
00:59:53
Curt
Right, right, right.
00:59:54
jamie peacock
um my I designed a rack, getting them laser cut, that holds nine pallets vertically on the wall so that I can store 48 pallets because I'm pretty close to that already.
01:00:01
Curt
Cool.
01:00:06
Curt
Wow. i
01:00:07
jamie peacock
Well, I mean, just the the new Torx fixtures is eight pallets.
01:00:07
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:11
Curt
Right. Yeah, right.
01:00:12
jamie peacock
So yeah, I've got a shitload of pallets. So I've come up with a new way to store them.
01:00:17
jamie peacock
But yeah, like the the per pallet cost is where the where the system really shines. And surprisingly, it's relatively rigid. I did all this stuff that I did this last week sideways on an anchor point.
01:00:17
Curt
That's cool.
01:00:28
jamie peacock
Wouldn't recommend it, but it works if you're not going full savage mode on it.
01:00:28
Curt
Right.
01:00:32
jamie peacock
And if you are going full savage mode, you need to just be aware that that is your limiting rigidity factor.
01:00:39
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
01:00:39
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
01:00:40
jamie peacock
i don't know. I'm resisting the urge to build my own Lang. That's the gist of it. Just seeing what else we got here. So, customer service.
01:00:41
Curt
Cool.
01:00:50
Curt
Yeah, like that's one thing. It's just a super minor point, but like everybody always touts customer service. And actually, it's one thing I think I'm going to do on my website. I get a lot of people asking me. i think I have an email in my inbox. I haven't replied to right now.
01:01:02
Curt
People want springs for my pens and um the little I have i put a little spacer in and with it and it has a ah ah bunch of functions.
01:01:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:09
Curt
But sometimes people buy pens and then they whatever they're like, i'm going to change the spring. So they take my spring and the little spacer that is kind of important to make the pen function exactly how I want it to. And they throw it in the trash.
01:01:20
Curt
And then they put their own spring in there and they realize, oh, this doesn't work.
01:01:20
jamie peacock
Oh.
01:01:23
Curt
It catches, it does weird things. It's like, yeah, of course it does. Cause I've designed the purpose. The reason I've done this is to design around these flaws.
01:01:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:30
Curt
And then they're like, oh, this is not exactly what I want. And they're like, well, I've thrown all the other springs. So now, so now they're kind of hosed. Um, so they always send me a message to be like, Hey, can I get a spring and a thing?
01:01:38
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:39
Curt
And nine times out of 10, it's not worth my time to try to invoice them for it. so I'm just like, shoot me your message or shoot me your email or your, sorry, your address.
01:01:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:46
Curt
I'll just send you one. And everyone's always blown away by that.
01:01:47
jamie peacock
yeah
01:01:48
Curt
And it costs me 10 bucks to ship them something. So it's, it's a minor cost.
01:01:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:52
Curt
The amount of like positive interactions I've had from just basically giving somebody that for free has been phenomenal. Like if, if I have one, one tip for customer, for people, it's like, if you can stomach like, you know, shelling out a few bucks like that for that kind of customer service, it's crazy how far that, like how much people appreciate something silly like that, especially like a second party customer.
01:02:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:14
Curt
Like they're like, I didn't even buy from you. I bought it on the used market and you, and you support it.
01:02:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:18
Curt
Like they're like, that's insane. Like
Local Production and DIY Projects
01:02:20
Curt
it just blows people's minds.
01:02:20
jamie peacock
ah know
01:02:21
Curt
It's so cool.
01:02:21
jamie peacock
ah know Grimsmo will send out a replacement screw or something to someone.
01:02:22
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:26
Curt
Right.
01:02:26
jamie peacock
And they don't like that i want to put them for sale because then people just buy a thousand screws.
01:02:26
Curt
And like, yeah.
01:02:30
jamie peacock
So it's like, if you reach out into a serial number of your knife, we'll send you a screw, that kind of story.
01:02:36
Curt
That's kind of my deal is like if people, if people need parts for my pens and they have a pen in there, like, I'm usually like, just I'll send it to you.
01:02:36
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
01:02:42
Curt
Don't worry about it. It's not worth my time to charge you the $4.
01:02:44
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:44
Curt
four dollars Like it's,
01:02:44
jamie peacock
Not worth the paperwork.
01:02:46
Curt
Totally. But I think I might put an option on my website with all the like accessories for it.
01:02:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:50
Curt
um Free. You click on it. It adds your cart for free and all the charges you ship shipping.
01:02:54
jamie peacock
yeah
01:02:55
Curt
Cause that way it'll limit people from being like, I want a thousand of these. Cause I'll see the order come through.
01:02:58
jamie peacock
sure yeah actually let me quickly check if I have the free item on my website
01:02:59
Curt
I'm like I'm not going to send you a thousand springs. You dork. I'll like, yeah. Someone's like, I want a couple of springs and spacers. Like, yeah, whatever. That's, that's totally fine. it'll yeah You'll come back. You'll come back for more.
01:03:14
Curt
Oh yeah, your CAD. Stuff like that. like that's That's actual customer service that people appreciate. It's like, not just...
01:03:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, they're all there. They're just under the resources. um
01:03:24
Curt
Right.
01:03:26
jamie peacock
But I don't know if they've been...
01:03:30
jamie peacock
Anchor Point. and That's a starter kit. I see the Isotar's still on there, fancy. I think I might have disabled the product because I was worried about it messing with the shipping. um
01:03:39
Curt
Right.
01:03:40
jamie peacock
But yeah, I want but need to get Danica to re-enable that for me because that's convenient. You just go download, you get an email with all the files.
01:03:47
Curt
Yep.
01:03:47
jamie peacock
You have all the palette designs. You have the dummy anchor point. You can put it into your machine. And yeah, that just makes life easy.
01:03:53
Curt
Yep. Yep. That's why, that's why I like companies like Harvey. That's why I like companies like McMaster.
01:03:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:04:00
Curt
Cause you get all that data. Like it's, it's put out there for you to be like, Hey, you want feeds and speeds.
01:04:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:04:04
Curt
Do you want models of tools? Do you want an easy accessible catalog? do you want like a complete solid model of this thing you're just buying? Like that stuff is really valuable and I'll pay, I'll pay your exorbitant prices for it.
01:04:10
jamie peacock
Yeah. My favorite... My favorite is that they some of those services mess with the with the models. Like if you download a gear, it's not a perfect gear.
01:04:21
Curt
Oh, yeah.
01:04:22
jamie peacock
And if you download a pulley, the V on the pulley is not correct.
01:04:22
Curt
Oh, really?
01:04:25
jamie peacock
So you can't just take their model and make the parts.
01:04:26
Curt
Oh, really?
01:04:28
jamie peacock
It's not actually, it's it's overall dimensions are good enough that you can use it in your model.
01:04:33
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:33
jamie peacock
But if you try and make that component, it's not going to be but not going to be correct.
01:04:37
Curt
Oh, weird. I've printed a freaking ton of pulleys off McMaster, so maybe that's something new, or maybe I just never noticed it when printing.
01:04:38
jamie peacock
Yeah. ah Well, it's a printed pulley.
01:04:44
Curt
Yeah. It's like, you're not all that precise.
01:04:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, like you're not putting like 50 horsepower through it. um But I know that, yeah, and know that in the past that was a thing.
01:04:50
Curt
That is true.
01:04:52
jamie peacock
Even pulling models off of 3D Content Central. What did I pull off of there? And then we tried to make it in-house because we couldn't get it. And the model was just, it was just ever so slightly off.
01:05:03
jamie peacock
Like, I think it was a rack and pinion or a gear or something. And I was wire cutting it. So like, it was accurate.
01:05:08
Curt
Oh, okay.
01:05:09
jamie peacock
And yeah, I'd extruded, I projected a sketch off of it.
01:05:10
Curt
Sure, yeah, yeah.
01:05:13
jamie peacock
And the profile was not correct.
01:05:16
Curt
I can see that. I can see that if you're wiring it.
01:05:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, and that was, yeah, and that was from a supplier, like from the OEM, their model, and it wasn't correct.
01:05:18
Curt
Yeah, for sure.
01:05:24
jamie peacock
But if you put it into a model, it'll mesh and do everything it needs to do.
01:05:25
Curt
That's fair.
01:05:28
jamie peacock
But if you try and make it yourself, it's not correct.
01:05:31
Curt
makes sense.
01:05:31
jamie peacock
No, I mean, that does make sense.
01:05:32
Curt
That makes sense.
01:05:33
jamie peacock
But yeah, back in the days when I had access to a wire cutter, that was great. I liked wire cutters. So, what does your t-shirt think, Kurt?
01:05:39
Curt
Yeah. So I found a local company because I've always been, ordered like the t-shirts we use um for, for the people listening um that you can buy our shirts. That's fine. It's a, it's like a print on demand service.
01:05:52
Curt
Great.
01:05:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:53
Curt
I'm just, I'm not super pleased with them for the artwork I want to do. It's just, I want like, I want, this isn't the right shirt. um I want like the, when the ink is infused directly into the fabric itself, where it's not
01:06:04
jamie peacock
Oh, so you want it still screened?
01:06:06
Curt
Silk screened, essentially.
01:06:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:07
Curt
Yeah, exactly. And they don't there's no print-on-demand services that do silk screening.
01:06:08
jamie peacock
They do DTF, which doesn't stand for what you think it stands for.
01:06:12
Curt
Yeah, they do DTF.
01:06:14
jamie peacock
It's direct to fabric.
01:06:16
Curt
direct There's direct DTG and there's DTF and there's ah transfers.
01:06:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:20
Curt
There's all kinds of ways they can do it, but it's all the same. It's a vinyl onto onto the um the shirt.
01:06:23
jamie peacock
Yeah. Onto to a shirt.
01:06:25
Curt
And that's it's an inexpensive way to do that. All the print-on-demand services do that. um But I found a local company... that's local to me um and they'll do shirts i think it costs me i have to buy a minimum of 12 um and they'll do silk screening of of all the colors like they have a like you upload your artwork it shows you the the closest matched pantones whatever um and uh and they'll do silk screening and i think it'll cost me 300 bucks to buy 12 shirts um so it works out to 25 bucks a shirt which isn't heinous um
01:06:37
jamie peacock
That's not horrible. Okay.
01:06:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, they've...
01:06:51
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:06:53
jamie peacock
No, that's not horrible.
01:06:56
Curt
No, for silk screening. And then that's a proper silk screen shirt.
01:06:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:58
Curt
um So I think I'm going probably do that.
01:07:01
Curt
The only annoyance with that is I'm going to have to stock shirts. So it's going to cost me like probably a few thousand dollars because I'll have to keep all the stock here.
01:07:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:07
Curt
But I get the advantage of when people order something from me. If they order a shirt as well, it all just comes in one box.
01:07:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, all just ships from one thing.
01:07:13
Curt
um So...
01:07:15
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:07:15
Curt
Yeah, so that's that's an advantage. So anyways, I've i've kind of been exploring that option just because I just, that' that's the kind of, know, that's the kind of stuff I like. um not Not that PooPoo are the shirt service we use.
01:07:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:25
Curt
It's great. It's just for the artwork I'm trying to push through it, just it's just, it's kind of pissing me off.
01:07:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, Danica went and she designed all the new shirts that she can't make them in-house. So I don't get new shirts because shipping from Printful to South Africa is just hilarious.
01:07:34
Curt
Oh, okay. Oh.
01:07:38
jamie peacock
um
01:07:39
Curt
Oh, okay.
01:07:40
jamie peacock
So yeah, I can't get the new shirt. I'm going to get the new shirts. I'm going to make her do it. But I think she might tweak the artwork for them. But yeah, they will be live tomorrow.
01:07:47
Curt
Right, yeah,
01:07:48
jamie peacock
Well, they'll be live yesterday from when you guys listen to this because we're going to put this out at the normal time.
01:07:54
Curt
yeah.
01:07:54
jamie peacock
We're just recording early like fancy people. Anyway, last topic before we do the the other fun things.
01:07:58
Curt
I don't even...
01:08:01
jamie peacock
I'm being lazy with my boat, Kurt.
01:08:03
Curt
Why are you being lazy with their with your little tyke's boat?
01:08:06
jamie peacock
So I got a 3D scan of it.
01:08:10
Curt
Okay, yeah, yeah.
01:08:10
jamie peacock
And then I started modeling what I wanted to do. And then I was like, fuck this noise. I'm just going to YOLO it. I'm just going to use some techniques. My dad taught me if I can. put down some foam in the bottom of the boat, put a piece of cardboard, tick stick the profile, transfer that to piece plywood, cut it out to match and just build it old school.
01:08:29
jamie peacock
No CAD models, just YOLO build it, get what I want done because that needs to be done in like two weeks time. So I need to go buy a sheet of plywood and then I'm going to probably climb into that in the evenings over the next next two weeks or so and get that ready because bass fishing season is here and I want my boat to be properly kitted out. so
01:08:46
jamie peacock
Look, I've got gray and orange EVA foam for it, for the deck.
01:08:46
Curt
That makes sense.
01:08:47
Curt
That makes sense.
01:08:52
Curt
Oh, cute.
01:08:52
jamie peacock
So it matches.
01:08:53
Curt
Cute.
01:08:54
jamie peacock
Now if I can, small shit.
01:08:54
Curt
Nice. Yeah.
01:08:55
jamie peacock
yeah, I'm going build hatches, cooler boxes, whatnot, into the boat. ah Just with an insert that literally drops in. So it'll drop in, and I don't even think I'm going to bolt in it, gravity can hold it. If it falls out because you're upside down, you've got bigger problems.
01:09:07
Curt
ah say yeah Yeah, I was just going to say this.
01:09:09
jamie peacock
Like, it'll be fun. So yeah, I'm going that's, that's an evening project. But yeah, I'm trying to, I'm trying to nice-ify the workshop a little bit. So I enjoy spending more time in there. So sorting out that table and painting the wall and just a whole bunch of small projects. Also going to pull the cooling fan off of my servo, my spindle motor, because it is full of crap.
01:09:30
jamie peacock
Since I got it, it's been dirty.
01:09:30
Curt
yeah.
01:09:32
jamie peacock
So I want to just strip it off. I think I might try do that to that tomorrow. Because tomorrow I've got a little bit of a lull, I think. um With it being the first of the month, I think we're going to get some orders in. But I don't think going have anything like anyone jumping up and down for stuff.
01:09:46
jamie peacock
So I'll be able to take the day to just stop, reset, sort my shit out, clean my machine, and yeah, carry on with life. I need to still make the winch thing to lift my fourth exercise.
01:09:59
Curt
Nice.
01:10:00
jamie peacock
And yeah, just didn't go by a winch yet.
01:10:00
Curt
Cool.
01:10:04
jamie peacock
Yet being an operative word there. That's a tomorrow problem. um Oh yes, I found out about the term cokey.
01:10:07
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:11
Curt
Oh, OK.
01:10:12
jamie peacock
Okay, it is the same as Sharpie. It was a brand name that got adopted as the the term for it, like Kleenex or Sharpie or one of those.
01:10:14
Curt
Oh.
01:10:20
jamie peacock
ah So yeah, that was a brand in South Africa.
01:10:20
Curt
Right.
01:10:22
jamie peacock
I'm assuming around the 90s, 80s, 90s, back when we wouldn't have had Sharpies because of sanctions. So I'm assuming that's yeah that's where where the term, yeah, it's known as a Koki.
01:10:30
Curt
Right, yeah. Interesting. Okay.
01:10:35
jamie peacock
fucking and I assume it's because you can snort the fucking thing, but yeah, who knows?
01:10:36
Curt
Cool.
01:10:39
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:40
jamie peacock
Because things smell here. They send you to the moon. It's great.
01:10:44
jamie peacock
So what is in your Google box, Kurt?
01:10:44
Curt
Yeah, I've been...
01:10:45
Curt
ah
01:10:48
Curt
My Google box, um aside from being full of ah the old gaming stuff, because that's the...
01:10:55
jamie peacock
We're going to discuss that in the after show today.
01:10:58
jamie peacock
Because I have gone down that rabbit hole just a little bit.
01:10:58
Curt
Okay, okay.
01:11:01
Curt
Proper, proper. So I'll avoid some of those. Actually, let's open mine here. And OK, let her rip.
01:11:07
jamie peacock
Well, i can start. got mine open. Okay, Retroid Pocket 5.
01:11:14
Curt
Nice.
01:11:15
jamie peacock
77 on Wordle. um I was looking up something on the Haas ST10.
01:11:17
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
01:11:19
jamie peacock
I was looking at their smaller lathes. I don't know why. um Discovered I can buy M2 threadmills locally. Got smart machine tools open.
01:11:27
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:11:28
jamie peacock
I was looking up the Siemens 828D controller. because there are some limitations on that. but I don't think we got into that in the podcast. like Okay, after show topic, um tracking the screws I bought, because I bought like 2,000 screws from China.
01:11:43
jamie peacock
Since the Torque screws I buy anywhere from Taiwan and China, I just bought them straight from China. um And then looking at public holidays and when South Park was airing.
01:11:54
Curt
Nice. Nice.
01:11:55
jamie peacock
And now it is purged.
01:11:57
Curt
Nice.
01:11:57
jamie peacock
What is in your Google box?
01:11:59
Curt
So mine was ah honestly a lot of kind of boring stuff. I was looking up some of the country tariff restrictions because a bunch of countries now are no longer shipping to the U.S. and I wanted to see if I was in there, but we're not.
01:12:10
jamie peacock
Ah, okay.
01:12:11
Curt
um
01:12:11
jamie peacock
Am I in there?
01:12:12
Curt
Which is... I don't know.
01:12:14
jamie peacock
I don't think so.
01:12:15
Curt
I think it was a lot of European countries um just because craziness, but I think that's all being deemed like unlawful now or something.
01:12:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, that seems about right.
01:12:20
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:12:22
Curt
I don't know. Everything's in flux. I just don't care anymore. um So...
01:12:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:12:26
Curt
We'll just let that ride. ah So that was in there. Retroid stuff, as we talked about. T-shirt stuff, because I had a gang of that stuff open. Pizza, because I got some pizza for the my little rats the other day.
01:12:37
Curt
And ah but but but a bunch of deactivated stuff. Nothing else all that interesting. um Yeah, it was kind of a kind of a lull week. Like i said, I was kind of half of the week I was out of commission.
01:12:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:12:48
Curt
So, um yeah, nothing nothing too fun, unfortunately.
01:12:50
jamie peacock
Okay. No, that's fine. That happens. ah Where can people find a way to not buy your stuff, Kurt?
01:12:54
Curt
Ha ha ha.
01:12:58
Curt
You can find a way to not buy my stuff at confoundermachine.com. Eventually, this is going to bite me in the ass because I'm not really growing my customer base, but I think we're going I think there'll be some
01:13:04
jamie peacock
Nah.
01:13:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, but it's for a good reason.
01:13:09
Curt
Yeah, I think, ah yeah, if if people are in the in the podcast sphere here and you listen to the various podcasts, all I'll have a way um up shortly where more people can join the lottery if they so choose.
01:13:22
Curt
um It's kind of going to be a sneaky backdoor for a little bit. um But yeah, I'm just trying to knock the list down. um But you can see my wares. You can see the pricing on a lot of pens under a few of the links on my site and all the social media stuff.
01:13:33
Curt
Links to the podcast, the merch store. all the All the jazz, all the all the media jazz. How about you, Jamie? How can people your stuff? your stuff
01:13:42
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, you can find me at jspec underscore engineering on Instagram, where you can follow the day-to-day shenanigans in our workshop. And you can find our online store and website at jspeceng.com, where you can pick up an anchor point, could pre-order an Isotire if you really want, or you can find a Fluck. Those are based in the UK for now.
01:14:03
jamie peacock
We are thinking of bringing, well, I'm going to make more stock, and I think I'm going to hold it this side, because there are new magnets on order that are stronger, because the Gen 2 magnets were hilariously But yeah, that's where you can find us.
01:14:13
jamie peacock
And then also theloanemachinists.com where there's a companion guide and some bonus content from when we lost connection a few weeks ago, which is quite entertaining.
01:14:22
Curt
Send Jamie messages about how you want a beefy leash for your dog and tell him to make them.
01:14:27
jamie peacock
Oh, yes. Yeah, I'm at least making two of them. um But yeah, that's what are you up to today? good Well, today's a Sunday for you. Well, Sunday for me too.
01:14:37
Curt
Today is Sunday, ah so I'm probably going to fill a little kiddie pool for my little rats to go play in because it's hot AF up here. I'm just going to chill out for it.
01:14:50
Curt
Today and then tomorrow is a holiday too, so I think we're going play in the park and just chill, relax.
01:14:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:14:55
jamie peacock
Nice. Some family time. Yeah.
01:14:55
Curt
I have i think a couple little packets yeah a couple of packages I'm going to send out here, once again for springs.
01:15:00
Curt
Get some of those sent out to waiting people. um
01:15:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:15:04
Curt
That's about it. how but How about you, Master Jamie?
01:15:06
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, I'm going to go and probably watch YouTube until I go to sleep. And then tomorrow going to listen to Lean Built if it comes out, because that's my Monday morning ritual.
Workshop Reorganization Plans
01:15:15
jamie peacock
And then go buy a paint tray and paint a wall and go pick up some carbide.
01:15:20
jamie peacock
So yeah, gonna sort my plan is to start sorting the workshop out tomorrow. um I'm also thinking of ordering a skip and just fucking turfing stuff. Just, if I haven't looked at it in a while, just bin.
01:15:29
Curt
That's yeah.
01:15:32
jamie peacock
Bin or into some semblance of organization. Because I've got a lot of crap still there. Like, I've got ah drawers of nuts and bolts. And they get me out of a pickle every now and again.
01:15:43
jamie peacock
They were Danica's dad's. He died 13 years ago. And they're still in my workshop. Or 14 years ago. ah Yeah, they're still in my shop. They need to go. Like, it's convenient every now and again when you're short a bolt and there's one in there.
01:15:54
jamie peacock
But it's it's taking up a whole corner and needs to go away now.
01:15:58
Curt
that's a That's a hot tip for anybody that like has a house or anything like that. Order yourself a bin.
01:16:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, 100%.
01:16:03
Curt
like They don't cost a ton of money. it's and It's incredible. You'll feel it. You'll feel it and you'll feel better about it because you'd be like, my house has so much less crap in it.
01:16:08
jamie peacock
Dude, near instantly.
01:16:11
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:16:11
jamie peacock
Yeah. Now, we did we did two of them.
01:16:12
Curt
I'm i'm a big fan.
01:16:15
jamie peacock
In the beginning of last year, the beginning of this year, I had two skips delivered and yeah we filled them. And that I'd had one delivered before that. ah yeah We just have it delivered and load it up with crap and just get rid of crap.
01:16:28
Curt
Yep.
01:16:29
jamie peacock
Because yeah otherwise it just accumulates and that is not not an ideal situation.
01:16:34
Curt
Yep. Yeah, no, exactly.
01:16:35
jamie peacock
But anyway. i day Yeah, well, thank you everybody for listening. So I'm reading the document here while I'm trying to remember what I've got to do, while I'm trying to read a Siemens manual. um Thank you everybody for listening.
01:16:47
jamie peacock
We will... ah We'll see you next week. If you were on YouTube and watching our ugly mugs, you can also find us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. And if you're on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, you can find us on Zencaster, if your name's AJ, Zencaster or YouTube if you want to watch the video of us talking.
01:17:07
jamie peacock
But yeah, thank you everybody for listening and we'll see you next week.
01:17:11
Curt
Take care. carol