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Ep. 37: Dare to DIY
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Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as Plane Crashes, Thinking in 100x scale, and Ti screw feeds.
Links Discussed:
- DIY Hone / Degreaser thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR11dx064QQ
- Reddit DIY Build: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tools/comments/11lhh7g/my_diy_vapor_blaster_wet_blaster_id_put_it_up/
- Commercial Vapor Hone: https://vaporhoningtechnologies.com/weekend-warrior/
- SR71 Link: https://www.e-fliterc.com/product/sr-71-blackbird-twin-40mm-edf-bnf-basic-with-as3x-and-safe-select/EFL02050.html
The Lone Machinist:
- Website: https://thelonemachinists.com/
- Merch: https://www.jspeceng.com/online-store
- Patreon: https://patreon.com/TheLoneMachinists
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Transcript
Greetings and Podcast Introduction
00:00:47
jamie peacock
Good morning, Kurt. are you doing this morning?
00:00:50
Curt
I'm doing fantastic. how are you doing on this lovely evening, which I assume it's a lovely evening for you. Maybe it's a shitty evening. i don't know. How are you doing?
00:00:56
jamie peacock
No, no, it's a fine evening. No, I'm doing well.
00:00:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:00
jamie peacock
um So the Early Access episode of Taps and Patients was quite interesting. They discussed our podcast. cost at a bit of length and our intro where we play the intro music and then we stare off into the distance or show each other our cuffs and stuff like that.
00:01:08
Curt
Ooh. Ooh, I'm excited.
00:01:17
Curt
yeah
00:01:17
jamie peacock
I'm like, it's part of the show, I guess.
00:01:21
Curt
Well, it's like a 45-minute intro, so yeah, we have a lot of time to do other things.
00:01:24
jamie peacock
That was the same joke that AJ made. It feels like a 45 minute intro.
00:01:31
jamie peacock
yeah Because he's yeah he's been watching video for a long time. Apparently not on Zencaster, like a weirdo. Apparently it just...
00:01:36
Curt
I did see that, yeah.
00:01:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, it pulls in straight to his thing. But yeah, I kind of attacked the comment section on there on the YouTube version of the newest episode.
00:01:45
Curt
Cool, cool.
00:01:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, I was answering all the... I was correcting all the things that they were not sure about.
00:01:52
Curt
Oh, people love that when you correct them and they don't ask for it.
00:01:54
jamie peacock
Well, they were...
00:01:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:55
jamie peacock
they were AJ was trying to remember how many machines he had in his shop around IMTS. like, No, no, you only have the horse because you got the tour mark deal kind of sorted out just as we were at IMTS.
00:02:08
jamie peacock
So yeah because i mean, I spent the whole of IMTS hanging out with them and just walking the shop, the show floor and seeing cool things.
00:02:16
Curt
Yeah, that sounds like fun.
00:02:18
jamie peacock
But yeah, what? So what? What have you been up to over the last week?
International Shipping Challenges
00:02:23
Curt
Oh, just getting all the um production sorted, get it finished, boxed up, sold everything by first come first serve sale this round, just because the, yeah, US shipping is just kind of such a pain in the ass right now.
00:02:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, saw that. Yeah.
00:02:34
Curt
just like, I can do it, but I have to do it in person. So I didn't want to stand at the post office for hours on end, just handwriting everyone's address. um And then I was kind of worried that like, this system is so new.
00:02:45
Curt
Like I was worried that like, oh, it's not, it you know, it wasn't declared correctly. And then just returned to sender and be like, ah,
00:02:50
jamie peacock
yeah
00:02:51
Curt
And like people, people have to pay a ton for the tariffs or the U S folks anyways. Um, so I was like, you know what, I'm just going to avoid it. I'm going to ship everywhere else except the U S and that seems to have ah worked out really well.
00:03:01
Curt
So, uh, yeah, ton U S people used Canadian proxies.
00:03:02
jamie peacock
um oh
00:03:05
Curt
They like just found people in Canada. They're like, Hey, will you buy from me and then ship it to me? And was like, well, if someone else wants to do it, I don't really care, but like, it's, it's annoying. I'm warning you Canadians. It's annoying. So we'll, we'll see how that comes out.
00:03:15
jamie peacock
yeah okay interesting that's didn't didn't see that coming that they were gonna just use proxies
00:03:16
Curt
But yeah. So yeah. Yeah.
00:03:22
Curt
Yeah, nor did I. But I mean, if you're if you're personal shipping to personal, you can do some things that I can't do as a business. um
00:03:28
jamie peacock
sure send it as a gift yeah yes
00:03:28
Curt
Like, I can't declare a gift and send it. Yeah, like, I get in trouble. um Even if I declare it at, like, $0, well, yeah, but I still have to, like, if I want to insure it, I have to declare it at full value.
00:03:39
jamie peacock
yeah
00:03:39
Curt
And just, like, I try to do everything above board because I don't want to get trouble.
00:03:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's not with the paperwork when you do get in trouble.
00:03:43
Curt
So...
00:03:46
Curt
Not at all. Not at all.
00:03:47
jamie peacock
Like, yeah.
00:03:47
Curt
Like, I don't want to try to, yeah, don't want to try to shortchange a tariff and then just jeopardize my ability to ship product because that's how I make money, so.
00:03:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. I had that back in the day and I ended up getting fined more than the cost of the stuff I bought because China and incorrectly declared it without me asking, which was always an nice until you get caught and then you get caught and you get a fine and all the other stuff that goes with it and you end up having to shell out or just abandon your stuff.
00:04:04
Curt
Yeah.
Porcupine Encounter and Vet Visit
00:04:12
jamie peacock
So, yeah, Well, yeah.
00:04:12
Curt
Totally, yeah.
00:04:14
jamie peacock
Speaking of ah tariffs and shipping things, I had a look, and I'm waiting, they said, four to six weeks for the insurance claim of a third party for the lost FedEx parcel.
00:04:24
Curt
Well, that's...
00:04:25
jamie peacock
So, in the meantime, um getting EJ's replacement together, I spoke to on Friday, and he's now in for, like, another $100 of tariffs.
00:04:34
Curt
Bummer, yeah.
00:04:34
jamie peacock
Because it was shipped before tariffs, and then FedEx lost it, and, yeah. Speaking of tariffs... ah Have you watched the latest episode of South Park? Episode 4 of Season 27?
00:04:46
Curt
No, I haven't watched any of them. No, just a few clips here and there, but...
00:04:47
jamie peacock
Oh, dude. Oh, dude. It's so good. So, so good.
00:04:51
Curt
Yeah.
00:04:53
jamie peacock
i was watching it. laying on the couch giggling at the the tariff situation and yeah some of the other stuff that they they put in there that I really hope that they baked in on purpose from, like, Episode 1. Because, yeah, if they have, it's freaking hilarious.
00:05:08
jamie peacock
So, know, we've been we've thoroughly enjoying that one.
00:05:08
Curt
ah Yeah. Sick.
00:05:11
jamie peacock
But yeah, so yeah, other than selling out in a hot second.
00:05:12
Curt
Cool.
00:05:17
Curt
Yeah.
Chucky Doll Streaming Jokes
00:05:18
jamie peacock
Yeah, what's been going on?
00:05:18
Curt
How about, uh, well,
00:05:19
jamie peacock
You still haven't put your Chucky in your life, Chuck to annoy people.
00:05:22
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:05:23
jamie peacock
Come on, girls.
00:05:23
Curt
audit i i was I only see my preview on an itty-bitty tiny screen, so I don't even think that people could see it. But yeah, I should.
00:05:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, we need to rage bait people.
00:05:28
Curt
i I got to remember start doing that.
00:05:32
Curt
Yeah, no kidding. Yeah. um Yeah. No, other than that, I went for a walk early this morning with the doggo, and she decided to try to attack a porcupine.
00:05:38
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:40
Curt
So I've been up super early. So yeah, it's going to be a...
00:05:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, saw you sent me that message and that was like just before five in the morning. Oh,
00:05:48
Curt
Yeah, so it was 2 in the morning my time. And, yeah, I've been up since then.
00:05:51
jamie peacock
jeez.
00:05:52
Curt
But, I mean, thankfully, I have a super good, like, emergency vet really close.
00:05:55
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:05:55
Curt
And they're like, ah, it's not too bad. We can just sedate her minor. Like, just we don't have to put her under, and then we can pop some out.
00:06:00
jamie peacock
Okay, that's not too bad.
00:06:02
Curt
She's a good girl, and she's all she's at home just chilling now, so she's happy again. and Yeah, yeah, that's been nice.
00:06:06
jamie peacock
Nice. Okay. Yeah, exciting start to the day.
00:06:09
Curt
um my
00:06:11
Curt
Yeah, so if I have droopy eyes on camera and anyone, that's why. Because I'm just a little sleepy. But how about you? What has your ah last week been like? Okay.
Machining Challenges with Tufnell
00:06:20
jamie peacock
uh yeah tufnel sucks ass um so some smart dick broke an end mill because i tried to slot 30 millimeters of uh of tufnel at a stupidly fast speed because i didn't catch it in the simulation that it was going to do that so i shattered an end mill luckily i'd set up sister tools so i just called up the sister tool
00:06:34
Curt
okay
00:06:42
jamie peacock
thought I'd gotten all the bits of endmill out and I hadn't. So new one dropped in.
00:06:46
Curt
Oh.
00:06:48
jamie peacock
changed it that it just roughs out those little pieces that were left. Doing the first perimeter and it hooks a piece of of the endmill inside one of the locating bosses and just turfed the second endmill.
00:06:59
jamie peacock
And I only had two.
00:06:59
Curt
Oh, of course, yeah.
00:07:00
jamie peacock
So then, yeah, yeah, of course. And that was just a 35mm length of cut 8 diameter forefoot. Like, worked perfectly, made nice big chips, or dust, but it was big enough that it didn't go straight through my filters and into the tank.
00:07:15
jamie peacock
So the cooling flow was still good. And the only 8mm I had after that was a rougher. So I proceeded to run the rest of the job with the rougher, and then my pumps got full, and my tank was full, and it was just a total utter shitshow.
00:07:21
Curt
all
00:07:29
jamie peacock
But I got the job done. And then I just did all my finishing with the long long series six mill that I had. But yeah, learned not to be a doer and to program things properly. But now everything is programmed and this should be net the next batch is the same.
00:07:41
jamie peacock
If there's no design revisions, the price for the job comes significantly down because I don't have to do any programming because the programming took me a full day on the two sets that I did.
00:07:50
Curt
Ooh.
00:07:51
jamie peacock
it's sorry It's brutal. And then I still missed, I gouged the one part ever so slightly. it's going it's fine it's getting glued in those fill the glue and i plunged straight through a bolt in one of the clamps because i forgot to tell it to ignore a surface when i was doing a parallel and i was driving off of selected surfaces and that just fatigue like that was on sunday afternoon that i did that it was just ran friday the whole day saturday the whole day sunday the whole day
00:08:05
Curt
Ooh.
00:08:09
Curt
Mm.
00:08:12
Curt
Mm.
00:08:16
Curt
Oh,
00:08:22
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, tufnel is done.
00:08:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:22
Curt
Hmm.
00:08:23
jamie peacock
My cooling concentration is super low After pumping everything out this morning, like it took me an hour a half to clean the machine. And then I still put filter cloth back in and did the warm up cycle to just wash the remaining bits of tufnel out of the machine.
00:08:36
jamie peacock
And then I started machining pellets this afternoon, and it smells like tufnel.
00:08:36
Curt
yeah
00:08:42
jamie peacock
But I'm sure that will go away soon enough.
Anodizing Techniques and Challenges
00:08:44
jamie peacock
But I think I might have ruined the coolant in two of my machines.
00:08:48
Curt
thats ah That tufnel, it's like a powder once it gets cut, or is it like...
00:08:54
jamie peacock
Um, no, if you're using an end mill and doing decent sized cuts, you get a pretty big chip. So it doesn't go straight through the foot, like through the the mesh at the back.
00:09:00
Curt
Okay.
00:09:03
jamie peacock
But as soon as you use the roughing in the little corn copper, just makes dust. And that just goes straight through and then straight through into my pumps.
00:09:07
Curt
Okay, that makes sense.
00:09:10
jamie peacock
I literally, the cooling coming through, I washed down, had bits of tuftal levels.
00:09:13
Curt
Okay, I wasn't sure if it was like Dalrin or if it was like a G10 kind of Delio.
00:09:14
jamie peacock
Because, yeah.
00:09:17
jamie peacock
It's a G10 type situation because it's paper and resin, but it makes decent chip with a normal end mill that makes a decent chip.
00:09:21
Curt
Gotcha, okay.
00:09:26
jamie peacock
that
00:09:27
Curt
Okay.
00:09:27
jamie peacock
you can scrape out relatively easily, like a lot higher volume. So if I look at all the roughing ops, and the first part were roughed with with a normal animal.
00:09:38
jamie peacock
And I filled my water, the call meat I filled that up two and half times, I then ran the remaining three parts and I didn't even fill it up once.
00:09:38
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:09:50
jamie peacock
Because the shavings are just going straight through the filter.
00:09:50
Curt
Oh, right, right, we're right, yeah, yeah.
00:09:53
jamie peacock
with the with the roughing end mill. But yeah, we live and we learn, and I know to buy lots of those end mills next time the job comes around because they work really, really well. And then I just, I lazily sister-tooled it. So just set 83 as the one tool, 82 as the next, which is actually a different tool, but whatever, touched it off.
00:10:10
jamie peacock
And then if I need to change, I just go renumber the program quickly. Just use the renumber infusion. That way I'm not because you can do the edges.
00:10:17
Curt
Gotcha, yeah.
00:10:19
jamie peacock
So you can put multiple of the tool, but i don't feel like figuring that out.
00:10:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:23
jamie peacock
I just make multiple copies of the tool.
00:10:25
Curt
Yeah, I'd do the same way you would.
00:10:26
jamie peacock
No.
00:10:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's the easy way to do it. um
00:10:30
Curt
Yeah, totally.
00:10:31
jamie peacock
So yeah, that that got run over the weekend, I got that ended up taking me two days longer than I expected. So now we'll look behind on other things like I literally came in now, ah microwaved a cup of coffee and came upstairs podcast.
00:10:44
jamie peacock
I was machining harbor pallets because the vacuum chucks on the machine. I cleaned the machine out this morning. Then I got the lathes running and I ran lathes all day and anodized. I only got back to running the mill at six o'clock this evening to do the harbor pallets quickly.
00:10:53
Curt
i
00:10:57
Curt
ah Yeah.
00:10:58
jamie peacock
And I need them done so I can take the vacuum chuck off the machine because I need to put a vase on tomorrow, make the harbor link plate, and then it's back into production. So yeah, busy running around like loon.
00:11:08
Curt
Gotcha, gotcha.
00:11:10
jamie peacock
like a loon
00:11:12
Curt
Yeah, no doubt, yeah.
00:11:14
jamie peacock
yeah i've got a bunch of stuff due this week for the one customer for the competition shooting guy because uh international shoots is end of the week so i'm now pushing a whole lot of stuff down to the wire
00:11:20
Curt
Okay.
00:11:29
Curt
That's the way to do it.
00:11:30
jamie peacock
as one does yep yeah as one does
00:11:32
Curt
Yeah, exactly. The best way to work is under pressure. yeah
00:11:36
jamie peacock
there we go. So I'm busy. I went and bought a bunch of copper and brass. I've got to make a bunch of brass grips for 1911 single stacks and magwells for them. They want it to be as heavy as possible.
00:11:46
Curt
yeah Okay, so that's a brass.
00:11:46
jamie peacock
I'm like, why don't we just machine it out of lead? Fuck sakes.
00:11:49
Curt
yeah
00:11:52
jamie peacock
So I've got to go and chop up all the brass tomorrow and program that. So I'll probably either late after the podcast tonight, start programming that or design the fixture and program it tomorrow quickly.
00:12:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:03
jamie peacock
because I need to move my mooring point on the machine. The harbor system is is getting implemented.
00:12:12
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:12:12
jamie peacock
So four anchor points, yeah.
00:12:13
Curt
I see what you're OK.
00:12:14
jamie peacock
So two mooring points, and then there's a harbour link plate where all the bores are tight, like five microns clearance on the bores that you basically put all the anchor points into, then drop that onto the mooring points, square everything up.
00:12:15
Curt
Nice.
00:12:29
jamie peacock
It's got holes to put to tighten through. You can tighten everything up squared, unclamp them all, take the link plate out, and then that gets stored. and And then I've made the Vast pallets and the Vacuum Chuck pallets, which span all four.
00:12:44
jamie peacock
And those locate on the front round and the rear diamond diagonally.
00:12:50
Curt
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
00:12:50
jamie peacock
So only on two
00:12:51
Curt
Yeah.
New Mooring Systems for Machining
00:12:52
jamie peacock
holes, the rest are wide open, like comma three of them all, so that it's not over constrained.
00:12:56
jamie peacock
It's only constrained in the way it needs to be.
00:12:57
Curt
yeah
00:13:00
jamie peacock
So that's, those are now machined. Had to dial in the new NML, but yeah, that's pretty quick now. And I've got that working with in machine compensation. Makes it pretty quick to dial in your size.
00:13:12
jamie peacock
So those have to get done before the vacuum chuck comes out, because those are 400 by or something.
00:13:19
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:13:20
jamie peacock
But then two vices will permanently be tramped and I can just go kachung kachung in and out of the machine.
00:13:25
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:13:27
jamie peacock
Super excited.
00:13:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:29
jamie peacock
Like super duper excited for that.
00:13:29
Curt
I know, that's the exact same place I'm sitting right now. It's just that precipice of, like, I need to totally redo all this to zero points, and then I'll be golden again.
00:13:42
Curt
But it's to everything down, set it up, and then go back to square. just like, oh, I don't want that downtime. But yeah, yeah, I want it.
00:13:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've now got to the issue I'm gonna run into is I've got to now rework the vacuum chuck that I have for the tufnel because that there's a fixture on top of that and that is all programmed to the center of machine or within like comma one of the center of the machines travels because I use the entire machines travels.
00:14:08
jamie peacock
So now I've got to figure out my my solution there and how I'm going to I'm going to figure that out.
00:14:08
Curt
All right.
00:14:14
jamie peacock
But I have some ideas.
00:14:17
Curt
Nice.
00:14:17
jamie peacock
So i'll probably I'll probably bolt it to the vacuum truck plate that I've just made. But we we'll see. that That's a problem for when the job comes around again. Right now I'm interested in getting that all that stuff moved over so the fourth can go back on and I can put the Jang plate or the fourth access knock lock on.
00:14:26
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:37
Curt
good Nice. I like this.
00:14:39
jamie peacock
Yes. um But yeah, thats that's one of the things I wanted to discuss with you this evening. I have two options.
00:14:45
Curt
Okay.
00:14:46
jamie peacock
I have a piece of K1-10 that I can machine, or that I can make a jang plate out of, because it would be the Lang ones all steel.
00:14:48
Curt
Uh-huh.
00:14:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:55
jamie peacock
I've got studs that I bought, Lang studs. Although I wouldn't go just, my plan is to not just go with the square pattern, but to go with six studs.
00:15:05
Curt
Okay.
00:15:06
jamie peacock
Two studs is constrained enough.
00:15:10
Curt
Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:11
jamie peacock
so i can put a block in the middle so my idea is either anchor points across the 96 or use 96 by well zero uh in the middle for some shenanigans i have planned with a dovetail fixture
00:15:24
Curt
Oh, okay.
Material Debate for Jang Plate
00:15:25
Curt
Okay. Okay. I get you. I got you.
00:15:25
jamie peacock
and then i use half as many of the expensive ass pull studs because those pull studs are ridiculous danica went bought me a set so i could model them uh they're apparently land compatible so i've got it to buy me a set they were a thousand three hundred grand locally
00:15:29
Curt
Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:39
jamie peacock
um I get my ah can get pill studs locally for a tenth of the price for the anchor point.
00:15:46
Curt
of Yeah, of course. Yeah, that makes sense.
00:15:49
jamie peacock
$70 a set of pill studs.
00:15:51
Curt
good Yeah.
00:15:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, my butt was sore after that.
00:15:52
Curt
Yeah, that's up there.
00:15:54
jamie peacock
They didn't use lube.
00:15:55
Curt
Yeah. ah
00:15:56
jamie peacock
But yeah, the reason I'm making the Jang plate or the 4th axis knock lock is because my 4th axis doesn't have a T-slot table on it.
00:15:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:05
jamie peacock
So it's got a ah boss with a whole sign.
00:16:06
Curt
Right.
00:16:08
jamie peacock
I need something. figured I may as well just make myself a... one of those style systems. It's not going to be one bolt to loosens everything. It's going to be four bolts, one for each pull stud.
00:16:19
jamie peacock
That just pushes in sideways with the taper. Good enough.
00:16:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:23
jamie peacock
It's not like I want to swap it every four seconds. I just want to be able to relatively easily swap out either from anchor point to an angle plate or whatever shenanigans.
00:16:32
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:33
jamie peacock
But yeah, um and now the decision is laying plates or so basically K 110 or 7075. I have both pieces of material. The problem with the 7075 is I want to anodize it and then it's non conductive.
00:16:45
jamie peacock
Because my thought was to make hardened steel bushes or guards push them in and then take them to a friend with a wire cut and say, Hey, friend, wire cut these open for me, please in position that I know they're exactly 96 spaced and on size.
00:17:01
Curt
Right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. yeah
00:17:02
jamie peacock
For a one-off, it's fine.
00:17:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:05
jamie peacock
But since ah it's non-conductive, I can't do that. I can't press them in and then anodize. So I'm leaning more towards doing the K110, which is going to be a bit of a bear to machine, but machine those undersized, send it for heat treats.
00:17:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:18
jamie peacock
When it gets back, have them grind it, then wire cut those six holes for me. Just take comma two five off. So leave them right undersized, get them to open them up, and then bolt it on.
00:17:30
jamie peacock
I think that might be... Might be the route, I just don't feel like machining K110.
00:17:35
Curt
yeah Yeah, for what you're trying to do, that might actually be easier than then hybridizing it.
00:17:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:17:40
Curt
yeah
00:17:40
jamie peacock
Because if I hybridize it, then I've got to put it in the mill, probe it, and then hard mill those inserts. And those inserts are only like four millimeters thick.
00:17:46
Curt
Right, yeah
00:17:50
jamie peacock
And...
00:17:50
Curt
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:17:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, a little worried they're going to shoot out when I do that.
00:17:54
Curt
Yeah, fair.
00:17:54
jamie peacock
So yeah, might just be easier to to do with the K110 route, which is always pleasant to machine.
00:18:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:01
jamie peacock
but My feeds and speeds are relatively dull. But yeah, it's a big chunk. It's like 26 mils thick and I ordered an oversized 175 by 175. So I've got to take 20 millimeters off the perimeter.
00:18:14
Curt
Yeah, it's a chonky one, but I mean, just take it easy, take go slow.
00:18:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:18:18
Curt
like It's going to be faster than then going the other way.
00:18:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. I've got a half feed. Half feed that thing fucked. Like, it's going to get surface ground afterwards.
00:18:25
Curt
but Or just rip through it and yeah.
00:18:27
jamie peacock
Like, I'm going to have the guys who do the heat treats.
00:18:28
Curt
I guess.
00:18:30
jamie peacock
That customer's got the wire cut. He's got a big grind. to have him grind it.
Hectic Podcast Schedule
00:18:34
jamie peacock
Like, i don' I just care about parallelism.
00:18:34
Curt
yeah, yeah.
00:18:36
jamie peacock
I don't really give a shit about thickness because everything critical, like, ground this phase that's been machined, that distance to the threaded holes, yeah, within half of a millimeter would be nice.
00:18:39
Curt
Sure, yeah,
00:18:47
jamie peacock
Like, it's it's wide open. Like, I was having a look at the the design I've got for it.
00:18:50
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:18:53
jamie peacock
It's wide open. It's a tapered grub screw that pushes on the pull stud.
00:18:57
jamie peacock
Like, it's nothing...
00:18:57
Curt
Yeah, I vote.
00:18:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:00
Curt
I vote K-10. also vote like steel fixtures for everything. So it's easy for me to say just do the steel way.
00:19:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, fair enough.
00:19:06
Curt
But yeah.
00:19:07
jamie peacock
Yeah. I'll probably go that route. It's just finding time to machine it is a little bit tricky at the moment because...
00:19:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:14
jamie peacock
this evening's podcast tomorrow morning's early with john which means by the evening i'm going to be a little wrecked I think I'm out about a monster in my fridge I might just smash that tomorrow night and machine the thing but i also need to go to bed early because I'm on a podcast on Wednesday so it's like yeah, this week is yeah, I know this Oh, speaking of influencing whatever ever happened with the the the robot vacuum people could the influencer?
00:19:28
Curt
The life of the influencer. so
00:19:37
Curt
Oh, I'm sure they all, they, yeah, they all told me to go pound sand after I was just basically gave them like demands of like, give me the world and I will think about doing something.
00:19:41
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:19:47
Curt
It's like, Oh, Oh yeah. Yeah. They're probably, they probably bigger fish.
00:19:49
jamie peacock
yeah I was cleaning i was keen of keeping was sweeping something out of the way. And I was like, I wonder what happened with that today.
00:19:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:56
jamie peacock
Because I was rearranging a bit of other lades.
00:19:57
Curt
Yeah. I don't, i've I considered buying one because like keep like I like to mop in here once in a while. i was like, I should buy a little robot mop.
00:20:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:20:04
Curt
And i was like, you know what? There's like 100,000 other things that I could buy right now. So let's just move a along.
00:20:10
jamie peacock
Yeah. Fair enough. Go away.
00:20:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:14
jamie peacock
go away No, there's a bug on my screen.
Titanium vs. Aluminum Anodizing
00:20:20
jamie peacock
What's happening with your black anodise? Oh, before we get there, anodise in titanium, there's no temperature requirements.
00:20:22
Curt
Oh, man.
00:20:28
Curt
Nope. Nope.
00:20:29
jamie peacock
so Okay, you're lucky.
00:20:29
Curt
that I know of. Not that I know of. Yeah.
00:20:30
jamie peacock
You're very, very lucky.
00:20:33
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. I know.
00:20:33
jamie peacock
I had to go buy six bags of ice so I could anodise today because I had to drop the temperature by five degrees before I could start.
00:20:34
Curt
Titanium anodizing is dead easy.
00:20:42
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't, I don't envy people doing aluminum anodizing. There's so many steps. And like some people that do aluminum anodize have contacted me about titanium anodizing. And I'm like, Oh, you were in for a, you were in for a wonderful surprise.
00:20:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:20:52
Curt
Cause it gets,
00:20:53
jamie peacock
Clean dip voltage done.
00:20:56
Curt
Done. Yeah. Nothing like, yeah, it's dead simple.
00:20:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's fucking great.
00:21:00
Curt
um But yeah, anyways, so I did, I did these black anodized on the, on the pens and the way it works at like, it's building up a, this it's a coating essentially, just like any anodized a little bit different than your regular, but it's still an an electro anodized.
00:21:10
jamie peacock
yeah
00:21:11
Curt
And I usually watch the current, but it's depending on where the part sits in the tank, it's not always consistent.
00:21:16
Curt
So I can't use that as a gauge. so I kind of just eyeball it. I'm like, yeah, that looks like it's done and then pull them out. um And I, I did one or two and I checked them. im like, yeah, they look good. And then i did the whole batch. And then, ah which was, I mean, not a ton of pens, you know, 30 odd pens or so, 30, 40 pens.
00:21:31
Curt
then And then once I went to do final assembly, after everything was done, and noticed there was some like inconsistencies. And i was like, oh no. So that means I took the whole batch and inspected the whole batch and found little flaws all over the batch. Same thing, under microscope flaws. Most people would never see these, but like it's, they're expensive enough that I'm like, no, like I don't want to have an issue. So,
00:21:51
Curt
Redid the entire batch, which is okay because the actually the anodize is, um as long as it hits the bath and it starts to develop a little bit of anodize, like it starts it starts to develop your normal like titanium anodize before it starts to go black.
00:22:03
Curt
um But that actually protects the layer because the anodize is already oxidized or whatever you want think of it.
00:22:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's oxidized already, yeah.
00:22:10
Curt
heart You don't have to re-etch is what I mean.
00:22:11
jamie peacock
Okay. Nice.
00:22:12
Curt
if As long as it's clean, it'll keep it'll keep accepting. So yeah, it was... it wasnt Trivial to redo them all. It was just time. So yeah, I just threw a podcast on and just ah redid them all.
00:22:22
Curt
So yeah, that was the first time I, which is the nice thing about like, One piece flow would been better because I don't have been able to see it. um But it's it's black on wet titanium. And like you're looking, it's very easy to like, it's hard to see it until they're all dry.
00:22:33
jamie peacock
yeah
00:22:35
Curt
And then same thing. Then the drying thing that leads into another topic is I was sick of like taking these pens and I like, I dip them into the, like go through all my ultrasonic tanks and they come out of hot distilled water.
00:22:39
jamie peacock
yes
00:22:45
Curt
So they dry off pretty quickly, but I want to blow them off faster. So I typically use an air gun, but like an air gun can sometimes blow. Like if there's any moisture in the line, it'll be mineral water, like just from your,
00:22:53
jamie peacock
yeah yeah
00:22:54
Curt
tap because pulling it out of the air or more more so it's collecting all the crap from in the lines and then it blows it on and then then you're hosed because then you have to clean it again or worse yeah it blows a little oil particle on from you know the compressor and then it totally messes up anodized so I'm like I am just gonna buy one of those little fans that you'll see on like Instagram of people like blowing leaves with or whatever So a little like and EDF, like electric or ducted fan.
00:23:19
Curt
And they are amazing. I will say I paid like 40 bucks. I got one. Fantastic. Super cool. Battery life absolutely sucks. So I immediately returned it, but it worked really well for its purpose. It was just the battery life was heinous.
00:23:32
Curt
So, I mean, it makes sense.
00:23:33
jamie peacock
Ah, that's tedious.
00:23:34
Curt
It's like, it's probably pushing hundreds and hundreds of Watts out of a thing that's the size your fist.
00:23:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:39
Curt
So like you can't expect great battery life. So, um,
00:23:41
jamie peacock
No. But yeah, I saw you had that thing. It looked quite fun.
00:23:45
Curt
it's It's a ton of fun. And, like, it moves way more air.
00:23:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:48
Curt
Like, it's kind of one of those things where it's, like, it's so small and it moves so much air. You're like, how is this possible? Like, what kind of space world are we living in?
00:23:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, that thing's doing like 100,000 ribbons. I've seen some guys get hold of those, yeah.
00:23:57
Curt
It literally is, yeah.
00:23:59
jamie peacock
I think R.C. TestFight got hold of one of them a couple of those motors. was using them on a wing.
00:24:03
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:24:08
jamie peacock
He did a really interesting plane where he's ducting air over the foil of the wing to prevent separation.
00:24:14
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, like can fly super slowly because the air can't separate from the wing, so you still have lift.
00:24:18
Curt
Right.
00:24:22
Curt
Yeah, i think i think i think the low setting on that was like 30,000 RPM and like medium was like 60 and top end was like 120,000 RPM.
00:24:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, i think he used them in there.
00:24:32
Curt
It's like, yeah that's full turbine speed.
00:24:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, now that's silly.
00:24:33
Curt
like ah And I think that's still a little over oversold.
00:24:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:36
Curt
I bet you they're not going that fast, but still anything over 50,000 RPM is crazy fast for a mechanical device.
00:24:39
jamie peacock
Um, yeah.
00:24:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:24:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, that's kinda silly, Faust.
00:24:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:24:47
jamie peacock
But yeah.
00:24:47
Curt
Well, and and the cool thing about that is then that that leads into, this kind of all leads into everything is because I was playing with that stupid fan and i was thinking, like, do I want to do
Considering New Parts Dryer Purchase
00:24:56
Curt
this all the time? And then i was, I think about my thing I talked about last week of like 100% scale or 100 times scale everything.
00:25:01
Curt
I'm like,
00:25:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:02
Curt
I can't do this.
00:25:03
jamie peacock
No. Oh, OK.
00:25:03
Curt
And oddly enough, um, Dylan actually messaged me. He's like Hey, have you ever heard of, uh, Alma? Like the German maker of like ultrasonic tanks and parts dryers and stuff. I'm like, Oh dude. I'm like, I have, I've looked on their site, but I'm like, I've just, every time I look at it, the price seems less bad, but I think it's just cause I'm starting to realize the value in these things.
00:25:23
Curt
Um, So yeah, i poked around a little bit. I was going to buy one of their parts dryers, which is basically just like an ultrasonic tank instead of water in it.
00:25:31
jamie peacock
okay
00:25:31
Curt
It just has a bunch of big heaters in the bottom that just dry your parts. But then if I buy that, I'm going to want to buy their ultrasonic too, because I want it just to be seamless, like straight of the ultrasonic with their basket.
00:25:35
jamie peacock
interesting sure
00:25:42
Curt
and So it works out. And you know, but whatever, the ultrasonic's $3,500. Their dryers, whatever, $1,500, you know, shipping.
00:25:49
Curt
um you know shipping
00:25:49
jamie peacock
where does their dryer fall under
00:25:52
Curt
Uh, I, it might actually be under, i don't know.
00:26:04
Curt
That's awesome.
00:26:06
jamie peacock
Yes, that's courtesy of of Jacob.
00:26:06
Curt
Okay. i like that. I like that audio.
00:26:09
jamie peacock
Now, I was looking on their website, and I don't know where it falls under.
00:26:14
Curt
might be, they have like part washers and all kinds of weird things.
00:26:16
jamie peacock
Yeah. Okay, anyway.
00:26:17
Curt
It's probably anyway.
00:26:17
jamie peacock
Okay, so you're looking at... I think you should, yeah. Okay, let me not...
00:26:22
Curt
Because like, it's better. It's just better. Like, do I want to do all of them at once or do I want to sit there and just hand do every single one of them?
00:26:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:30
Curt
So i'm like,
00:26:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, and how much airflow do you need? You just want to get them a little bit... You want to dry them a bit quicker.
00:26:35
Curt
basically nothing. Yeah, like I basically need, I just want to, it's essentially all I need to do.
00:26:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, buy a hairdryer.
00:26:41
Curt
So and then i then I started getting smart and I was like, do I just buy and another one of my ultrasonic tanks that I have here, cut two holes in the back and put two like 300 watt AC just blower heaters in there?
00:26:51
Curt
I'm like, because that'll cost me about 300 bucks.
00:26:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:54
Curt
And let's say it takes me a day to do it. I'm still cash ahead, but I'm like, i don't know if i want to do it. I don't know. i'm I'm waffling on it.
00:27:00
jamie peacock
Hairdryer.
00:27:01
Curt
Like it's either $10,000 Canadian for a box solution or, you know, like 500 bucks and a day is day of my time.
00:27:02
jamie peacock
Just go...
00:27:07
Curt
So
00:27:08
jamie peacock
$10 for a hairdryer. Problem solved.
00:27:11
Curt
I could duct tape a hairdryer onto a box or something.
00:27:13
jamie peacock
Dude, literally, hairdryer on a Noga arm, and you just put the part in front of it There we go.
00:27:14
Curt
Yeah, I would. Yeah.
00:27:18
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. I just, yeah. I particularize one.
00:27:20
jamie peacock
You want something fancy. yeah
00:27:21
Curt
It. Yeah, I want it to be simple and work more than just a week. yeah So I don't know. was We'll see. um'm I'm just not thinking about that right now.
00:27:30
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:27:31
Curt
Yeah. Ooh.
00:27:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, fair enough. I get yeah why you don't want to think about that.
00:27:34
Curt
yeah
00:27:37
jamie peacock
I'm looking through. Okay, so hang on.
Patreon Thanks and Merchandise
00:27:42
jamie peacock
Okay, let's quickly shout out our Patreons, who make the wheels on the podcast go round and round before we get into the super interesting airplane crash that happened this week.
00:27:50
jamie peacock
um yes i should probably send your picture you picture but anyway first things first patreons they make the wheels on the podcast go round and round thank you to all the patreons including jake from benchmark 20 luke from fantastic aj from subtract manufacturing ej from eternal welding and jason s our newest patreon uh yeah thank you guys uh that goes towards getting us to ints when we're gonna kidnap kurt um
00:27:50
Curt
so
00:28:16
jamie peacock
But yeah, the speaking of the podcast, there's also shirts. The wife asked me politely to shout out shirts. There's this one. yish You're sharp.
00:28:24
Curt
Is this one?
00:28:25
jamie peacock
As sharp as a marble. um And then there will be late, but don't know when the episode is going to come out that I'm on this week. But there will be a special shirt that I'm going to be wearing there that will be brought back for like a week after that podcast.
00:28:39
jamie peacock
So keep an eye on the store. There will be some things changing about. We also added a RFQ thing, but we'll get into that a bit later. So yeah, anyway, thought I'd get the Patreons done. And then also check out Subtract Manufacturing if you need parts made.
00:28:54
jamie peacock
This is just the tip, AJ.
00:28:59
Curt
I don't even know what's going on, folks.
00:28:59
jamie peacock
Because yeah, tips and patience, we were featured quite extensively. So this is just the tip.
00:29:06
Curt
Ooh.
00:29:06
jamie peacock
There's more coming AJ, I promise. um Yeah, I think he might be quite happy with the surprise I have planned. So I was chatting, i got a message from Josh on Instagram, crappy, crappy machines.
00:29:15
Curt
Oh, boy.
00:29:21
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:29:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, he was messaging me about Linux TNT. He's finally finishing up his mill. And he was asking, he wanted to go Acorn or Masso, but they're like either option is like 600 euros.
00:29:28
Curt
Hmm.
00:29:34
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:35
jamie peacock
So we're discussing options for Linux CNC because he knows I know how to set it up. ah And we're looking at, so I said to him straight, go for the 7i81, that a Raspberry Pi. I run them on multiple machines. I have configs. I have breakout boards.
00:29:52
jamie peacock
Um, he's like, he's already got a PC. So I was like, okay, in that case, so the 7R96S works really well.
00:29:56
Curt
Okay.
00:29:59
jamie peacock
And then he was like, we're discussing it and he doesn't need the analog output for a servo, for a spindle. Cause he's going to run a step direction servo for his spindle, which is what I do on the Emco.
00:30:10
Curt
okay
00:30:11
jamie peacock
So I was like, well, then 7R96. It's like 35 euros cheaper. And all the only difference is it doesn't have that analog output. And if you really need it, you can buy a two euro board that will do that for you. PWM to analog.
00:30:27
jamie peacock
I run one of those in Bertha.
00:30:27
Curt
Nice.
00:30:29
jamie peacock
So, yeah. And I'm like, I've got a breakout board I can send you. But the labeling is wrong, because it's for the 7C81, not for the 7996. seven i on six But it will just work.
00:30:40
jamie peacock
Like you plug it in, it gives you breakout for your IO that you can then connect your MPG to that. So we're having a having a chat about that. Give him a hand to get his machine sorted out.
00:30:50
jamie peacock
And we're gonna punch about 10 sets of breakout boards for seven C81s.
00:30:52
Curt
nice
00:30:57
Curt
Yeah, but I love LinuxCNC. It's like riding a bicycle or riding a unicycle on top of a ball. Like, it's stupid annoying to, like, learn.
00:31:02
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:31:04
Curt
But once you learn it you're like, oh, I could i can control anything with this.
00:31:06
jamie peacock
100%.
00:31:08
Curt
And it's bulletproof.
00:31:08
jamie peacock
My favorite, do you know what favorite thing about it is? Is the, what's it, the
00:31:12
Curt
What's that?
00:31:15
jamie peacock
a or at the Raspberry Pi config. The command in the command prompt is not
00:31:21
Curt
Okay.
00:31:22
jamie peacock
and same as everywhere else it's some other fucking one and you have to go change the locale setting to the us otherwise it just crashes every time you try and set your step steps per millimeter in pnc config on the newer version i think it's it's the older versions after you set yours up it's the newer versions yeah super fucking frustrating to try figure out how to fix that but yeah once you kind of remember what you have to do pretty easy to get it up and running again
00:31:40
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:31:51
Curt
Yeah, no, I'm a big fan.
00:31:52
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, you can do anything with it.
00:31:53
Curt
Big fan.
00:31:55
jamie peacock
Like, anything.
00:31:56
Curt
Yeah, anything. Yeah, exactly.
00:31:57
jamie peacock
It doesn't know what it is. Like, yeah, it's there, yeah.
00:32:00
Curt
Precisely, yeah.
00:32:02
jamie peacock
It can be whatever you want it to be. Which is cool.
00:32:04
Curt
Well, and I and tell people...
00:32:04
jamie peacock
Like, I mean, my lads both run this.
00:32:08
Curt
I tell people, yeah, it doesn't know what it is, but it also knows that, like, my job is to control machines, not to work with humans. So, like, I will control the machine, Mr. Human, and if you need something from me, I will talk to you when I am in a good spot.
00:32:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:20
Curt
Like, as opposed to other controls, which are like, what do you need, sir?
00:32:21
jamie peacock
yeah
00:32:22
Curt
then the machine faults out.
00:32:24
jamie peacock
yeah
00:32:24
Curt
Whereas LinuxCNC is like, if you want to move the mouse, you do that, but I'm going to keep moving things here. Like, it's it's a good it's a good control.
00:32:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm busy threading. I'm gonna ignore you right now.
00:32:32
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
00:32:34
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, I'm shocked how well ah your machine.
00:32:34
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Unless...
00:32:40
jamie peacock
Did you ever do the little optical limit switch thing as a but sure so was making noise with a disk with slots in it as an encoder?
00:32:52
Curt
ah Yeah, I have encoders on both axes, yeah.
00:32:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:55
jamie peacock
No, no, I mean, yeah, but i'm so on your and little bench top, didn't you have like a just literally a disc with slots that you made?
00:32:55
Curt
Or on both spindles.
00:33:04
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's what Bertha has.
00:33:06
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:07
jamie peacock
And Bertha has no problem threading at 2000 RPM.
00:33:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:12
Curt
Yeah, I know it's...
00:33:12
jamie peacock
Like, it is amazing. It's got 12 pulses per revolution, and it'll just, i was threading today in stainless steel, threading M10, no problem.
00:33:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:21
jamie peacock
Like, it's crazy.
00:33:21
Curt
Yeah. Yeah,
00:33:22
jamie peacock
The M code's got 1,000 pulse per revolution encoder, and it does a bit better job, but it's amazing how you can get by with 12 pulses per revolution in an index. And that, I picked up an issue because...
00:33:35
jamie peacock
I used acrylic and I just painted it because it's what I had as a laser cut piece and it wasn't, um, it didn't block enough of the light.
00:33:40
Curt
yeah
00:33:44
jamie peacock
So i would get random every now and again, like, yeah, anyway, cut one out of g ten hasn't given fault since.
00:33:45
Curt
yeah yeah
00:33:51
jamie peacock
Like it just works.
00:33:51
Curt
That's funny.
00:33:53
jamie peacock
It's crazy.
00:33:54
Curt
had the same issue. I used black Sharpie on a steel pulley. And same thing, every once a while I'd have to re-Sharpie it.
00:33:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:34:00
Curt
It's like, it's so so ghetto, but yeah.
00:34:01
jamie peacock
Nice. yeah no if it's oh yeah it works doesn't mean it isn't dumb it just it works um yeah
00:34:03
Curt
It worked.
00:34:07
Curt
Yeah. And like said, same thing, like 12 pulses, perfect threading. right The hard andch has like, i don't know, freaking a few thousand pulses to do threading. But yeah, the little ah little tag was threading away on, you know, like like a light switch, essentially.
00:34:18
jamie peacock
yeah no it's so speaking of threading i need to thread some titanium
00:34:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:27
Curt
All right.
00:34:28
jamie peacock
I'm going to send you a message to get some surface speed settings and things just so to have a ah starting point here.
00:34:31
Curt
Oh, sure. Yeah.
00:34:33
jamie peacock
I need to thread some but m five for racking.
00:34:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:38
jamie peacock
And I was thinking maybe just blanking off some screws quickly while I was at it.
00:34:38
Curt
Okay.
00:34:40
jamie peacock
Make some M3 screws. Because the bars a little bit long.
00:34:43
Curt
Okay, are you...
00:34:44
jamie peacock
So it's six diameter. was just going to turn them down quickly to like 5.5 head diameter. And then I've got blanks to play with when I get around to that.
00:34:52
Curt
Oh, okay, so like threading on a lathe, like single pointing.
00:34:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, single point threading on the lathe.
00:34:55
Curt
Oh, yeah, that at dead easy, yeah.
00:34:57
jamie peacock
Only annoying thing is the EMCO's turret. You need to run left-hand tools if you want it to push into the lock, and my threading tool is a right-hand tool, so it wants to kick out a little bit of backlash, but it's fine.
00:35:07
Curt
I was going
00:35:12
jamie peacock
You just do lots of spring passes.
00:35:14
Curt
to say, yeah, that's, yeah.
00:35:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, and that should annoy a bunch of proper machinists, but spring passes are your friend.
00:35:20
Curt
I spring past the shit out of my little screws, although they are 256. So the whole thing is a spring that you're cutting.
00:35:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:25
Curt
But yeah, I spring them pretty hard.
00:35:26
jamie peacock
Yeah. Even the M10 I was doing today, I did like six or seven spring passes.
00:35:31
jamie peacock
Because it's just what copy and paste control.
00:35:31
Curt
That's a lot, though.
00:35:32
Curt
That is a lot.
00:35:35
jamie peacock
Just paste, paste, paste, fucking done. Then don't have to worry about any flex, any moving, any shit.
00:35:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:39
jamie peacock
Just let it fucking run. And for the extra 30 seconds of cycle time, it's fine.
00:35:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:44
jamie peacock
Because again, threading it like a thousand ribbons, 10 diamonds is stainless.
00:35:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:48
jamie peacock
Because my friend sent me a message this morning.
00:35:49
Curt
yeah yeah
00:35:50
jamie peacock
Hey, ah can you make me some of these? I need two urgently. I'm like, sure. I made these like three years ago last. um he's like, no, he needs 22 for the five doors that they have in stock. I'm like, no worries.
00:36:03
jamie peacock
Let me see how many can get out of the material I have. So I made him 25, and I still have two meters of material left. So I was like, there you 25, they'll be ready in like two hours.
00:36:09
Curt
Nice. Go.
00:36:13
jamie peacock
So I'll see him later in the week.
00:36:14
Curt
so
00:36:14
jamie peacock
But yeah, I ended lathing that this morning, then lathing a bunch of case feeder feeder tube thingies, which turns out if you buy a step drill, goes way easier.
00:36:15
Curt
so go
00:36:27
jamie peacock
So I bought M10 countersink step drills for some reason. um For someone who promised me a job and then the job just never materialized, but I was ordering tools and they weren't expensive, so I just ordered them.
00:36:39
jamie peacock
But I put them in today and it saves me having to put the parts in a different lathe to do a chamfer because it now does the chamfer.
00:36:39
Curt
Nice.
00:36:45
jamie peacock
So I drill it, then I counterbore it to size and there's counterbore to a chamfer to the ball.
00:36:46
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:36:51
jamie peacock
So one and done and those got anodized this evening.
00:36:55
Curt
Cool.
Plane Incident and Family Involvement
00:36:56
jamie peacock
because needed one urgently
00:36:59
Curt
So you briefly said a plane crash and then said nothing more. Let me know about this.
00:37:05
jamie peacock
okay so my brother-in-law who is not meant to be flying aeroplanes as in cannot legally be the pilot because he has a brain tumor but still has lots of friends who are pilots and will go flying with him but he was not meant to be in the aeroplane when the aeroplane's landing gear collapsed on takeoff
00:37:23
Curt
Oh no!
00:37:24
jamie peacock
Yeah. So his wife was just a little pissed.
00:37:28
jamie peacock
Mostly because he doesn't have life insurance either because he canceled his life insurance about six months before you got a brain tumor because they wouldn't cover him while he was out of the country and he was out of the country six months of the year for work flying helicopters.
00:37:28
Curt
Yeah, rightfully so.
00:37:43
jamie peacock
So he's like, fuck you. You're not covering me when it's the most dangerous. Why am I paying you any money? And then when's got a brain tumor?
00:37:48
Curt
Sure.
00:37:50
jamie peacock
Um, Yeah, a little bit of a shitshow. But shut show but yeah anyway, the plane that I made that lovely part for, that oil pickup.
00:37:57
Curt
Okay.
00:37:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, it it wasn't my part that failed. No, so that they were going down the dollar the runway, and one of the check valves on the hydraulic system failed. And the landing gear literally folded under the plane while they were heading down the runway for takeoff.
00:38:10
Curt
ah Okay.
00:38:13
jamie peacock
So the plane's a tad fucked, but everyone is okay.
00:38:13
Curt
Hmm.
00:38:16
Curt
Ooh.
00:38:18
jamie peacock
Yeah, so...
00:38:19
Curt
that That's good.
00:38:19
jamie peacock
No one, no one died. No one got injured, but yeah, a little bit exciting.
00:38:23
jamie peacock
um was like, oh shit. He's like, no, it wasn't your part. It was something in the gear that failed. Like, oh yeah, the prop is, yeah, ah interesting. So yeah, he was on board for that, which was exciting.
00:38:23
Curt
Yikes.
00:38:34
jamie peacock
Actually, ah he was here today and I didn't get a chance to chat to him because I was busy laving.
00:38:35
Curt
Oh.
00:38:38
jamie peacock
um And yeah, he needed to use my bucky.
00:38:39
Curt
Hmm.
00:38:41
jamie peacock
So I just sent Danica with to go and pick up a couch and then go pick up copper and then fuck around the whole bunch and then make her way back here.
00:38:49
Curt
Oh, glad it's okay.
00:38:50
jamie peacock
Well, yeah, me too.
00:38:51
Curt
And I'm glad it wasn't your part that maimed a bunch of people. So yeah.
00:38:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm very glad. um I don't even think the plane ended up inverted before they before the gear collapsed. I don't even know if they flew it with a new part.
00:39:04
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:39:04
jamie peacock
Good thing I got paid for the parts already.
00:39:05
Curt
Well, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:09
jamie peacock
But yeah, I know.
00:39:10
Curt
ah
00:39:10
jamie peacock
Their plane's had some issues in the past where Danica and her brother took off and the thing just went electrically dead.
00:39:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:18
Curt
Cool.
00:39:18
jamie peacock
So he leans over, he was in the back, taps it on the shoulder.
00:39:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:21
jamie peacock
Hey, do you have your phone? She's like, no, I've got to have my phone. So they wing waggled and did an emergency landing because now you've radios.
00:39:29
Curt
Sure, right, yeah.
00:39:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, so not the first incident to that specific plane.
00:39:35
Curt
Yeah, that's that's one thing you don't want. Yeah, but less fun.
00:39:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:38
Curt
Less fun for sure.
00:39:39
jamie peacock
No, definitely less fun. um So what's happening with the the vapor hose degreasing, rinsing, dry units?
00:39:47
Curt
Okay. So people are
00:39:47
jamie peacock
C-Link. Wait, right, I'm gonna go to the link.
00:39:55
jamie peacock
How do I follow the link?
00:40:03
Curt
people are going to hate these new little things, but I like that one.
00:40:04
jamie peacock
Oh, jeez, Jacob.
00:40:07
Curt
That one's a nice one.
00:40:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, that was really sweet.
00:40:08
Curt
Um, Yeah, if you haven't seen this, we'll put it in the show notes. go check it out if any of you guys are dorks out there or do any kind of machining because this guy built a slick setup that I very, very much
Custom Vapor Hone System Plans
00:40:20
Curt
want to build.
00:40:20
Curt
So much so that I have basically everything in my cart at various stores to buy all the parts because ah to buy something comparable, I'm going to spend ah basically the same amount of money and just nothing exists.
00:40:32
Curt
So um I've always wanted a vapor hone and there's a company that makes vapor hones. I was going to buy one of their vapor hones. um But it...
00:40:41
Curt
Yeah, like i don I don't know. I could get it. And then I thought, you know what? If I'm if i building a vapor or if I'm buying a vapor hone, I also wanted to do this. So this guy, what he built basically built is a vapor hone, which is just like a sandblaster that uses water for people that that don't know.
00:40:55
Curt
um But he also has a setting in it where he can then switch off the abrasive media and switch to like degreaser. So he has a hot tank of degreaser. So he can spray with degreaser. But the cool thing is he can spray with degreaser. Then he can hit the air like that you normally use for vapor honing.
00:41:10
Curt
And it sprays hot degreaser at the part under pressure, which is wicked cool. And then you can switch over to rinse. So then you can rinse the part with this water. And once again, hit the air if he needs to, you know, blast it in there harder.
00:41:21
Curt
And then he has an air dryer, like an air nozzle in there to blow parts off. So he basically has this like one-stop solution where you can put an oily part in, completely degrease it, completely wash it, blast it, wash it again, dry it, and then put it outside of the machine.
00:41:33
Curt
So it only ever comes in once. And he does like, um looks like he does engine repairs for like bikes, street bikes and stuff.
00:41:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, engine rebuilds. Yeah.
00:41:41
Curt
um But for i for these these black Isogrip pens I do, I do a ton of vapor honing on them because I can't ah can't tumble them aggressively enough. And the features are like one 30 second slots. So like there's no media that's going to go in there and aggressively tumble it without just killing every single edge on the part.
00:41:57
Curt
And I don't want to do that. So I need to kind of selectively do it so I can automate the blasting easy enough. um And I've just ah been on the fence with vapor hones for so long because I hate the dust of a blasting cabinet. ah So I i basically...
00:42:07
jamie peacock
you've got a lovely spot there next to the iron lung for it.
00:42:11
Curt
Yeah, ah that's exactly where we would live. It'd live right there.
00:42:13
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:42:14
Curt
And I'm like, you know what? If I'm going to buy one of these, going to buy Vaporhorn.
00:42:15
jamie peacock
What? What is your plan? If you if going build one like his? Are you going to just go buy on your case, Princess Auto sandblasting cabinet and waterproof it? Or are you going to buy a vape bone and then add the stuff?
00:42:26
Curt
No, like you can like... ah
00:42:30
Curt
Yeah, like you can buy a turnkey vapor hone, which is what I was going to do. But I mean, to buy the vapor hone, I think it's called like the weekend warrior. I'll put a link in the show and notes of a company that makes this nice vapor hone.
00:42:42
Curt
But it's like, you know, three, four thousand bucks, which is fine because I'm going to spend that building my own.
00:42:47
jamie peacock
yeah
00:42:48
Curt
But then I still have to put in all the other shit that I wanted to do. Like i wanted to do the high pressure degreasing and I want to put an airline in there and I want to put like, you know, proper blast on the windows and a better light in there and like just a million little add-ons.
00:42:58
Curt
And i'm like, why don't I just go buy sandblast, like one of the blasting cabinets that I would normally use, like a nice big fancy one, waterproof the piss out of it, and then add all the things I'm going to add anyways.
00:43:03
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:08
Curt
Like i have to buy a bunch of extra pumps and a bunch of extra, you know, containment units.
00:43:11
jamie peacock
yeah
00:43:12
Curt
So I might go down that road. um Like I said, it's not going cheap road, but I don't like you could build it cheap. ton of people build them on like pressure washers and stuff, but I think I could build this thing pretty tankish for, I don't know, let's say 5,000 bucks and I could probably have it built how I want it um as opposed to just having to hack together a unit that i already paid a ton of money for.
00:43:20
jamie peacock
yeah
00:43:30
jamie peacock
yeah
00:43:34
Curt
So I don't know, kind of waffling on it.
00:43:34
jamie peacock
sure um of flex seal one time that's what i did with my tumbler full can of flex seal to seal that thing
00:43:37
Curt
No, no not a
00:43:46
Curt
yeah no no no flex seal will come into my into my world um thankfully i used to work with uh like 3m so i have a line on like just crazy adhesives and sealants and yeah and i know i know the guys there so can i get hooked up with some good good stuff um
00:43:49
jamie peacock
flex seal okay yeah well yeah that's assuming the sheet metal fits together well enough that you can actually
00:44:04
Curt
ah this
00:44:04
jamie peacock
put a seal between us.
00:44:04
Curt
I'll just keep getting stuff that has bigger and bigger gaps. Like, it's not a problem.
00:44:11
jamie peacock
Just keep trying to.
00:44:11
Curt
But yeah, I'll probably...
00:44:13
jamie peacock
OK. It's going to be an interesting project.
00:44:14
Curt
ah i think ah i think I'll go that way. Yeah, like, I would love to get, like, one, like, a unit, like, stainless custom bent up and, like, you know, a nice thick glass screen with, like, water blasts on it and, like, just make it really, really nice.
00:44:26
Curt
But I don't need it quite that nice.
00:44:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:44:28
Curt
So, i don't know.
00:44:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, that sounds expensive.
00:44:31
Curt
Yeah, it's going to be expensive regardless. mean, if I value my time, it's going to be expensive. um
00:44:35
jamie peacock
sure yeah yeah
00:44:36
Curt
But this is kind of something I can, this is something I would, it's what it falls into one of those things of like, if I needed it tomorrow, like I have a blasting cabinet that works. I can do my blasting in it as production doesn't even have to slow down. i would I would enjoy pissing around with this and putting like PLC heaters in there and big you know displays and buttons and switches. And like, I would enjoy that. That's fun. I like building machines. So that's the kind of fun part of it.
00:44:57
Curt
And it gives me an excuse to do it.
00:44:57
jamie peacock
yeah yeah I'm 100% I'm the same looking for any excuse to do something cool
00:44:58
Curt
And it's all a write-off because it's equipment. so
00:45:05
Curt
Right, yeah. like it's yeah so
00:45:08
jamie peacock
it's having to control one's one's drive for shit like that. um
00:45:13
Curt
Absolutely, yeah.
00:45:15
jamie peacock
Why are you ending FCFS?
00:45:19
Curt
Oh, my first-come, first-served sales? Why are they basically going to stop?
00:45:21
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:45:22
Curt
Because the amount of...
00:45:23
jamie peacock
every Everyone's sad.
00:45:24
Curt
like I don't want to humble brag, but like I get a lot of site volume on those orders now. And even this one, I had to, I had to nix my entire U S you know, customer base and I'm sorry.
00:45:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:45:33
jamie peacock
yeah
00:45:35
Curt
It sucks. And, uh, actually I think some people that listen to this podcast, um, purchased, which is super cool. Um, actually think some of them purchased a gang of them. ah they were some of the people that doing proxies, like shipping out to other people.
00:45:45
jamie peacock
Okay, yeah.
00:45:46
Curt
So yeah, they, they preface it They're like, how many can I buy?
00:45:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:45:48
Curt
I'm like, if you're shipping to other people, I really don't care.
00:45:49
jamie peacock
Sure.
00:45:51
Curt
Like it's, I just want to stop people from buying and reselling.
00:45:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:45:54
Curt
Um,
00:45:54
jamie peacock
so
00:45:55
Curt
Anyways, I just get a ton of messages of like, like you get weird site glitches where like, and I don't run, like I run a Squarespace site and like the payment is processed through Stripe. And like, these are all like pretty expensive services.
00:46:04
jamie peacock
yeah
00:46:06
Curt
And it's, some of them still get wonky when, you know, a gang of people are all logging on trying to buy one product and it one person wins you know like 90 people fail on it or whatever and like you get weird errors and it just yeah it just causes me a ton of messages and emails like so i i think we might be hitting the end of firstcom first come first serve sales because it just makes too many people angry rightfully so but some people get extra extra angry which i don't understand but hey whatever
00:46:16
jamie peacock
yeah
00:46:29
jamie peacock
no fair enough yeah yeah but people people get touched that's just one of those things in life
00:46:41
Curt
Well, and like, I get it. Like if I was producing, like I did a little Instagram story. I'm like, if I was producing like whatever, insulin for people, like I get it.
00:46:48
jamie peacock
yeah you're gonna die yeah yeah exactly
00:46:49
Curt
You get mad. That makes sense. It saves lives. I'm selling pens. I'm selling luxury pens to people that can afford it. Like if you can't buy one, I get it. It's annoying, but we don't have to, we don't have to get, and we don't have to get so angry.
00:46:58
jamie peacock
but it's not life or death. Yeah.
00:47:01
Curt
Like, let's just, I appreciate, I appreciate the people trying to buy my product.
00:47:02
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:05
Curt
And i don't want to like, don't want to poo poo them, but like, Let's calm down, folks.
00:47:09
jamie peacock
Yeah. Context.
00:47:10
Curt
There's there's no need there's no indeed there's no need to yell and call names.
00:47:13
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:13
Curt
like
00:47:14
jamie peacock
Oh! I left a thing out of the document. Speaking of life or death things, that impeller thing I made.
00:47:19
Curt
Oh. Oh, okay.
00:47:24
Curt
Yes, yes, that pretty one.
00:47:24
jamie peacock
I've a meeting.
00:47:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:25
jamie peacock
The guy's going to come this evening. I've got a, he's coming tomorrow. He wasn't feeling well. um He got feedback from the customer.
00:47:29
Curt
Hmm.
00:47:30
jamie peacock
They want all, the they want parts CMM now. And yeah, they are rapidly heading towards just being told to fuck off.
00:47:35
Curt
Hmm.
00:47:40
jamie peacock
Because we can't realistically, yes, I can do them on the fourth axis I have. In practice, no, I can't. So I got pricing on buying a servo motor locally and a drive and it just having that installed on my machine with this current fourth axis.
00:47:58
jamie peacock
It is quite literally cheaper for me to buy a fourth axis with a servo and drive from SilverCNC than to just buy the motor and drive locally.
00:48:04
Curt
ah Oh, really?
00:48:07
Curt
o yeah
00:48:08
jamie peacock
And SilverCNC don't sell just the motor and drive.
00:48:12
Curt
Okay, a fair.
00:48:13
jamie peacock
Because I asked.
00:48:13
Curt
you have to buy their... Yeah, yeah,
00:48:15
jamie peacock
because didn't ask. um Yeah, I mean, we're in for about $5,000 for a fourth axis installed, licensed, all that crap. For a roller cam one with them.
00:48:26
Curt
yeah. Sorry.
00:48:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:28
Curt
Oh, sorry. Okay. I thought that was for just...
00:48:29
jamie peacock
That's from SilverCNC.
00:48:31
Curt
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
00:48:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, so it's about 5000 silver CNC and it's about three and a half thousand for just the server and motor locally. And then I've still got to pay licensing and installation.
00:48:39
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:48:40
jamie peacock
So fuck that noise. I would rather it from silver CNC and get a new one that I know is good.
00:48:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:46
jamie peacock
So we're looking at going that route. But also, like I said, the guy is coming for a meeting. I want to discuss surface finish call out. like, we need a profilometer. So now we need to buy profilometer. They want stuff CMM. We need a CMM.
00:48:59
jamie peacock
I'm not pulling that out of my ass. Like, I can get a CMM relatively cheaply. Like, I was chatting to my mate Dylan, who I don't think listens to this podcast, not a protium Dylan. um It's like $13,000 for a vision system with a probe on it that we could use, we could effectively use as a CMM for this size part.
00:49:20
Curt
Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:49:22
jamie peacock
But that's $13,000 that I'm going to just i'm not gonna just
00:49:27
jamie peacock
Like, don't be silly. So, yeah, the Oaks, they want these parts are pretty much, I think we might have a discussion about these parts are out of our league. They need to take them somewhere else.
00:49:27
Curt
Yeah, no, yeah, of course.
00:49:38
jamie peacock
And then they can try to get them made for the stupid price that they want them made for. um They are trying to push us to have them made for... I'm using the Imperializer.
00:49:51
jamie peacock
ah Just shy of $50 a piece.
00:49:54
Curt
What? For that part?
00:49:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, that part.
00:49:57
Curt
Oh, yeah, that's a, that's, that's a,
00:49:57
jamie peacock
That's what they want them for. I'm like, you're on fucking drugs.
Customer Conflict and Project Reconsideration
00:50:01
jamie peacock
Like some really good ones. Can I have some? Because yeah, it's insane. Like I was like, okay, cool. Yeah, we, we can make a plan and do the work.
00:50:02
Curt
that's, that's, that's insane.
00:50:10
jamie peacock
But it's a 52 millimeter Lang style or 4th axis style zero points. three zero points, then it's 296 millimeters that are required.
00:50:22
jamie peacock
That way I can put my fourth axis on a 96 I can lift it up tilt make a riser at 8.1 degrees and pop it on another one. So that changeover isn't a total fucking nightmare.
00:50:30
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:32
jamie peacock
So just our setup cost is going to be absurd. um And they're like, Oh, no, they're willing to pay for setup cost, but then it's their equipment. And then I'm like, dudes, NRE, you pay this if you want the job fucking done, and you owe none of it.
00:50:42
Curt
yeah
00:50:46
jamie peacock
It's all mine. Fuck off. So yeah, we're going to have a discussion tomorrow about how they're going to be told they can politely fuck off and die. Because I'm not, like i'm I'm happy to run the job.
00:50:54
Curt
yeah
00:50:57
jamie peacock
So I'll say to the customer today, if I, at the end of the job, if I end up with a fourth access in my machine and some lang fucking workholding and shit, I am happy to work for like $10 an hour on this job.
00:51:11
Curt
Sure, sure, sure.
00:51:12
jamie peacock
because I'm ending up with a $5,000 thing like I'm amortizing that over the job. That's fine. I'm not losing money per se because planning on running it at night anyway. I'm not hemorrhaging money, but I'm not going to run it at a fucking loss just to get a fourth axis.
00:51:28
Curt
Yeah, that's.
00:51:28
jamie peacock
And at that price, it's insane. Like that price needs to triple pretty much.
00:51:33
Curt
Yeah, I say I usually take like your quotes and just kind of ten x them just to kind of deal with the different economies. And even that, like if someone if someone approached me and said, would you make it for 500 bucks?
00:51:39
jamie peacock
So, yeah
00:51:42
Curt
I'd be like, fuck, no, like not a chance.
00:51:44
jamie peacock
these folks, what they're doing, what they're doing is they've got an order for 357 of these.
00:51:45
Curt
Sorry.
00:51:50
jamie peacock
They're like, here's an order, here's an order. Look, it's so much money. Yes, it's a lot of money.
00:51:53
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:51:55
jamie peacock
except how many hours that 700 hours of machining just on one operation on those parts.
00:51:59
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:52:00
jamie peacock
Sorry, fuck off. Big numbers not impressive.
00:52:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:04
jamie peacock
It's the per part number that's impressive. Like that's something I was actually chatting to call who's probably going to listen to this. Big numbers are really fancy and really exciting. Until you realize how much work is involved in that big number.
00:52:15
jamie peacock
And how you're actually getting screwed because the guys are showing you big numbers to get you excited.
00:52:16
Curt
yeah Yeah, well, if you're you're losing money on every part, it doesn't matter how much the total is.
00:52:21
jamie peacock
Whereas in reality, you are working at below minimum wage and you got excited because it's a big number.
00:52:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly.
00:52:32
Curt
You're still going to lose money.
00:52:33
jamie peacock
So yeah these parts, like even these, we need to redesign the process because the process needs to be a single laid off and then everything else is milled in one fixture that we can keep the data because there's a pretty tight tolerance ah for concentricity and for diameter.
00:52:51
jamie peacock
where my machine, I know it varies by like 30 microns, like morning to evening. If I probe a tool in the morning, I probe that same tool in the evening, there's a difference.
00:53:02
jamie peacock
So it would be a case of run the machine all day, put the parts in the fourth axis, take a cut, rotate 180, take a cut, mark the size to adjust where that center line is.
00:53:02
Curt
Right.
00:53:12
jamie peacock
Because we need our finished diameter to be exactly on.
00:53:13
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:53:15
jamie peacock
So there's a lot of a lot of stupid involved with this job.
00:53:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:21
Curt
Yeah, no, it's, that sounds like, yeah.
00:53:21
jamie peacock
So yeah, they just, they're going to get told that this is a stupid idea.
00:53:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:27
jamie peacock
And then yeah the diesel guys are, I got RFQ today for 50 more caps. Woo.
00:53:33
jamie peacock
I changed the design of the cap to be trilobed so that it always fits. So they didn't realize that tolerances existed.
00:53:33
Curt
Yeah,
00:53:41
Curt
is and not many do.
00:53:43
jamie peacock
I'm like, okay, cool.
00:53:44
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:53:45
jamie peacock
Like, The tube I buy, I can reject if it's over 16. If it's under, I can't really reject it. I'm going to get told to go somewhere else if start rejecting every order of tubes. It's a 15.85 extruded tube.
00:53:58
jamie peacock
According to Hewlett-Packard, plus minus a millimeter will still go out. So it can come in here between 14.85 to 16.85.
00:54:04
Curt
Okay, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:08
jamie peacock
I reject anything over 16, and it's been pretty consistent lately, but now they're bitching it the cap is loose. I'm like... This was not an issue. The reason you're running into this is you have zero documentation on any of your parts that you're having manufactured.
00:54:24
jamie peacock
They're but you have drawings.
00:54:25
Curt
yeah
00:54:25
jamie peacock
Yes, so ah have drawings. I will sell said drawings to you, but those are mine. Like, the reason you're running is you can't even reject my parts because there is no drawing.
00:54:32
Curt
yeah
00:54:37
jamie peacock
And like, I said that you can't even reject my parts because there is no actual drawing.
00:54:38
Curt
Yeah. Yeah,
00:54:41
jamie peacock
So I'm waiting for the phone call from them where we're going to have a lovely discussion about basically you can pay $13,000 now and have your drawings today. Or you can order $5,000 of everything and when the $5,000 one is delivered, I'll give you your drawings.
00:54:51
Curt
yeah
00:54:56
Curt
yeah fair
00:54:57
jamie peacock
Because that should be a year's production.
00:54:57
Curt
yeah
00:55:00
jamie peacock
It's not even that fucking long.
00:55:01
Curt
yeah
00:55:02
jamie peacock
um But yeah, then you have a frozen design that you can say to the guys, hey, this is out of spec. Hey, this is incorrect. But right now they have nothing.
00:55:13
jamie peacock
So it was quite entertaining to enlighten them to this fact.
00:55:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:17
jamie peacock
We're also making other samples for them. But yeah, the the Patreon for this made more money than I invoiced them last month.
Cap Design Revision
00:55:25
Curt
yeah Yeah, that's rough.
00:55:26
jamie peacock
it's hilarious so yeah they they were on the verge of being told to go away but i think we've got all the issues resolved i'm now making a trilobular cap so i'm going to turn it to 15 diameter id then it gets clamped in the mill and i mill the trilob shape to the points of the trilob are 15 1 and the outside is 16 so when you push it on the tube it either shears to size or deforms to size
00:55:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:53
jamie peacock
depending on if the tube's been deburred.
00:55:53
Curt
Okay.
00:55:55
jamie peacock
There we go, problem solved.
00:55:55
Curt
I gotcha.
00:55:56
jamie peacock
But it adds extra 20 US cents to the cost.
00:55:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:02
Curt
Right.
00:56:02
jamie peacock
So they're a little bit sad, but i'm like, ah two years ago, I was out competing China on these parts, putting them on the lathe in the mill, I'm out competing China injection molding them out of PTFE.
00:56:02
Curt
Yeah,
00:56:11
Curt
that's nuts. That's nuts.
00:56:13
jamie peacock
So yeah, they're going to have a discussion as well about pricing.
00:56:14
Curt
That's nuts.
00:56:16
jamie peacock
We're like, go get updated prices, I dare you. I can guarantee I will be cheaper.
00:56:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:21
jamie peacock
Material costs have gone up. Like, I've just gotten in fucking good at making your stuff.
00:56:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:28
Curt
Yeah, well. Yeah, don't know.
00:56:30
jamie peacock
Oh, hang on. need to look at the notes quickly from last week.
00:56:38
jamie peacock
Oh, I got a price on the SmartLathe SL46 or 42. The bigger one.
00:56:43
Curt
Okay, so is the one size bigger than last time?
00:56:45
jamie peacock
Bigger one, yes. With a servo turret,
00:56:46
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:49
jamie peacock
and a three jaw chuck an extra an add-on three jaw chuck so collar chuck and three jaw chuck thirteen thousand dollars yes uh because it's not c-axis so it's just a two-axis lathe with the servo turret um
00:56:55
Curt
Okay. Because the other one was... What? How's it cheaper?
00:57:02
Curt
Oh, okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah.
00:57:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I was chatting to the guys at WD Hearn and we'll see if I get into the position where want one. point I might just be like, import it. I'll be the guinea pig. If the machines fucked up, I'll take it is what it is.
00:57:17
jamie peacock
I won't hold you guys to keeping it running. I'm not scared of machines. Like, machine fucks out, I'll fuck it up.
00:57:21
Curt
yeah
00:57:23
jamie peacock
Like, anyway. And their controller looks like it is their own in-house brand CNC controller. The smart controller. Yeah.
00:57:31
Curt
Like we said, for lathe, it's meh.
00:57:32
jamie peacock
left right up down like it's a late left right up down there's nothing more to it um so yeah very interesting like very compelling like and have it landed here for
00:57:33
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:57:46
jamie peacock
i reckon we could have it landed here for like 21 000 no problem like that's where like freight delivery everything i think we'll be around that
00:57:52
Curt
That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous.
00:57:56
Curt
That's insane.
00:57:57
jamie peacock
So we will see if we, cause Danica might be getting a job, which is going be very inconvenient for me. um Then this lathe is going to have to become a high priority because can't stand at berth all day running our production stuff.
00:58:11
Curt
Right, right. and unfair <unk>
00:58:13
jamie peacock
Cause when the diesel guys pull their heads out of their asses, they're going to need tubes again and that data I get Danica to stand at the lathe all day and run.
00:58:22
Curt
Well, and just before we get off, ah someone told me that, just for clarification, this is SmartLathe, which I think is based out of China. Because apparently there's a SmartLathe US as well.
00:58:30
jamie peacock
uh smart machine tools
00:58:32
Curt
But I mean, if the if the price is... Sure, if if the prices don't ah clarify it, it should should be known that it is not.
00:58:37
jamie peacock
yeah uh so smart had the same thing with the guys from wd heard um smart machine tools are bought in by magnum machine tools here which i was told do not in any fucking thing uh in any certain sense deal with um
00:58:42
Curt
Okay.
00:58:47
Curt
Gotcha.
00:58:53
jamie peacock
they are affiliated with mech tech and beyond fucking useless.
00:58:53
Curt
Makes sense.
00:58:56
jamie peacock
Calling them useless is a compliment. They're apparently conduct that bad. um So I said I sent this link to guys at WDN and the one guy was like, Oh, no no, someone brings those in. So I went and looked and I'm like, no No, they bring in smart machine tools.
00:59:09
jamie peacock
This is smart lathe.com. Different fucking thing.
00:59:11
Curt
Gotcha. Okay.
Logistics and Commission Agreement
00:59:12
Curt
Sure, yeah.
00:59:12
jamie peacock
So yeah, potentially you're gonna have them bring it in because they bring machines in already.
00:59:13
Curt
um
00:59:17
jamie peacock
They know though the what's and where's about it.
00:59:20
Curt
sure yeah
00:59:21
jamie peacock
And then they would obviously want to slap like a 15% comm on it, which is fine. If I don't have to handle the logistics, I'll fucking pay them. I don't mind.
Swiss Machine Quote Curiosity
00:59:29
Curt
i need to i need to I need to shake the tree for the for a quote on the Swiss. I'm just curious now because like if it's insane, i have it's hard not to.
00:59:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:59:36
Curt
Like you said, even if even if it comes in as a block, and it's just like if the mechanics are there, it's like it's almost worth it.
00:59:39
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
00:59:44
jamie peacock
Like that's the both yeah, much. Yeah, the shirts I'm wearing on Wednesday, it's the this warranty and can avoid itself.
00:59:44
Curt
Almost worth it.
Warranties and Machine Fixing
00:59:51
jamie peacock
So think both you and I don't give a shit about warranties.
00:59:51
Curt
Right. yeah
00:59:53
jamie peacock
It's like I'll unbreak it like the machines, a machine is just a machine.
00:59:53
Curt
No. No. Yeah.
00:59:59
jamie peacock
It's yeah, the software side gets a little convoluted. But mechanically, it's just a mechanical device. It's not super complicated. Speaking of mechanical devices, what's happening with your mechanical device? Good.
00:59:59
Curt
Totally, yeah.
01:00:12
Curt
Oh, which mechanical device are we talking about?
Fidget Spinner Project
01:00:15
jamie peacock
your fidget mechanical spinner, your fidget spinner!
01:00:15
Curt
the little This little fidgety thing here. um So it is going to get machined now that I have all my my plate cleared, essentially. So um I'm probably going play with it this week because I have this.
01:00:23
jamie peacock
nice
01:00:24
Curt
I have the bearing sitting right here. I have a cart of McMaster just ready for me to hit the go button. So yeah, I think I'm going to piss around with that. um So yeah, I've had a... ah Yeah, I'm excited. to think going to machined one too. going to do some of these resin ones.
Feature Creep in Projects
01:00:38
Curt
Yeah, um i I'm viciously trying to avoid feature creeping. And I thought I found a really cool thing I could do to it as well. I'm like, no, no, Kurt, that could be version two.
01:00:46
jamie peacock
Okay. Yeah.
01:00:46
Curt
Finish this one, get it exactly how you want it.
01:00:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:00:49
Curt
And then just like, you can you can always version two
Efficient Pen Mechanism Machining
01:00:51
Curt
something else. um And I also, I'm also super excited because the pen mechanism I'm working on, I finally figured out that I can machine, think I found a way to machine every single part outside of the fourth axis, which means I can batch it, which is huge.
01:01:01
jamie peacock
okay
01:01:04
Curt
ah Because i was I was kind of stuck on making all these parts on the fourth, which I can't can't automate very easily.
01:01:04
jamie peacock
yeah
01:01:09
Curt
um But I found ah found out I can machine them all flat. um I just got to get really crafty with the tool pass, but they can all just be basically put on one of your pallets and then ah put the machine and I can just gang a ton of them and I can make the entire mechanism without the fourth axis.
01:01:17
jamie peacock
nice okay yeah nice
01:01:22
Curt
So i'm like, that's huge. That is enormous, especially if it's because my next production unit, like that'd be something I could just queue up and let it run all night. So yeah, I'm a, I'm jazzed for both those. So my brain is being pulled in two different directions and right down the middle, there's that vapor degreaser.
01:01:35
Curt
yeah, I got, I got too many irons in the fire.
01:01:39
jamie peacock
it's things in all of things in all the directions it's great fun
01:01:41
Curt
Oh, no
Fort Visit and Steam Engine
01:01:42
Curt
kidding. Yeah. And then to top it all off this weekend, I went and ah we went to, it we have like a local, like it's called Fort Edmonton, but it's like, it's an old fort here. And then there was a steam engine. So then I got like, Oh, just, just talking about like autistic behaviors.
01:01:55
Curt
I got to go look at trains. So that's pretty jazz.
01:01:58
jamie peacock
That's the shirt. That's the shirt Danica needs to make me. What's it? Undiagnosed, but everyone's pretty sure.
01:02:06
Curt
ah Totally. Totally.
01:02:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, because the podcast has been referred to by AJ as listening to Jamie rant.
01:02:08
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:15
Curt
That's basically it. Yeah.
01:02:16
jamie peacock
Because apparently I speak a lot.
01:02:16
Curt
Yeah. Oh, really? i was unaware.
01:02:20
jamie peacock
um I've never noticed.
01:02:25
Curt
Whatever. Hey, no lull in the conversation.
01:02:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, I have a funny story about that actually for the after show that the patrons get access to. Let me make a note because I want to think it'll be funny, but it needs to be there
01:02:33
Curt
Slack.
01:02:39
Curt
OK.
01:02:40
jamie peacock
made a note
01:02:40
Curt
Quiet, Jamie.
01:02:41
jamie peacock
um yeah quite Jamie. If you think I talk a lot now. um But yeah, anyway, sorry last thing for the podcast, RG557.
01:02:52
jamie peacock
Do you know what that is?
01:02:55
Curt
OK, are you looking at one of those? The little gaming console?
01:02:57
jamie peacock
I can get one locally for less money than the retro pocket five.
01:02:59
Curt
OK.
01:03:02
jamie peacock
About the same, except the lead time is two days.
Gaming Console Purchase Deliberation
01:03:06
Curt
Okay, yeah, a little Anberic.
01:03:07
jamie peacock
but Yeah, I watch yeah watched a bunch of reviews on it over the weekend.
01:03:09
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
01:03:13
jamie peacock
And yeah, I went down the route on Sunday of why don't I just build myself a handout?
01:03:13
Curt
Okay, yeah, slick. Yeah.
01:03:18
jamie peacock
I like building things. And then I'm like, by the I buy the power, the breakouts that I need and the screen, I'm basically at the price of buying a unit.
01:03:21
Curt
Yeah,
01:03:25
Curt
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:03:27
jamie peacock
Like, I might as well just buy one. So yeah, um think I'm going to go down that route because I want to emulate PS3, PS2, because i want Underground 2, I want Most Wanted, and Santa Dress, and I'll be pretty happy.
01:03:39
Curt
there
01:03:40
jamie peacock
like That'll keep me entertained for a while.
01:03:43
Curt
Yeah, I mean, yeah they go for about $250 US, so it's not ah it's not a...
01:03:45
jamie peacock
yeah so uh what i'll tell you what it comes in at here x shipping which shipping's not bad it's about 280 us but by the time i buy the retroid and get it here and import duties and all that it's going to be more because the retroid is 250 with shipping um and then i'm going pay more than that in import duties so i may as well just buy the one that's in the country
01:03:47
Curt
If you're getting it for that, that's a frickin' steal.
01:04:00
Curt
Okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:11
Curt
Yeah, i don't I don't know much about that, but...
01:04:11
jamie peacock
So apparently it it smashes the Retroid, performance-wise, just the drivers are not there to run some of the games.
01:04:16
Curt
Oh, cool. Sick.
01:04:21
Curt
Yeah, fair. if it's modes yeah
01:04:22
jamie peacock
Which, yeah.
01:04:23
Curt
They're all Snapdragon chipsets, and that doesn't look like it's a Snapdragon, so that's probably why you're not...
01:04:26
jamie peacock
It's not a Snapdragon, but it fucking smashes the Snapdragon.
01:04:27
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:29
jamie peacock
So interesting, like I went down a serious rabbit hole on on the weekend about that.
01:04:31
Curt
Cool. Nice.
01:04:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, trying to convince Danica that I need one. because I do I was actually playing Gears War lost night on the Xbox downstairs but I don't really want to sit on the couch and play games I want to be able to play games anywhere yes nice
01:04:47
Curt
And that the joystick layout on that one looks better. But the really cool thing is, the thing I didn't realize is I was playing a little bit of Need for Speed Underground 2, PS2 version. And I was like, okay, I remember this game.
Rediscovering PS2 Game
01:04:58
Curt
like um I'm sure it's going to look dated. But then you forget, with all the power you have, you can three x the resolution. So I had like full 1080p.
01:05:05
Curt
And you you play it, you're like, oh, this holds up now.
01:05:06
jamie peacock
yeah yeah
01:05:09
Curt
It doesn't look as dated as you think it. It's a little dated.
01:05:11
jamie peacock
Well, PS2's native...
01:05:11
Curt
But i'm like you look at it, and you're like, this is pretty damn good. Yeah.
01:05:16
jamie peacock
no. I'm not sure it's coming up. PS2 native resolution was 480p. And I remember playing underground under underground Most Wanted on my gaming PC at the time, and that was on a Square CRT monitor.
01:05:22
Curt
Right. Yeah, yeah.
01:05:28
Curt
Yeah.
01:05:32
jamie peacock
I'm trying to remember what the resolution was. It was like 600 by 800 or something.
01:05:36
jamie peacock
It was like...
01:05:36
Curt
Yeah.
01:05:37
Curt
Piss poor. Yeah, yeah.
01:05:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, potato, and it was amazing. i'm like, this game is so realistic. Like, yeah.
01:05:42
Curt
Yeah. And the the upset the upscaling works nice.
01:05:44
jamie peacock
So it works really well.
01:05:45
Curt
Like, it looks good. I was like, ooh this looks like this looks like a modern, like, ah you know, maybe a low-end PC or a high-end PS3 game. I'm like, I'm impressed for what a PS2 game can look like.
01:05:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:55
Curt
and Yeah.
01:05:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, yeah, it's all just, yeah.
01:05:56
Curt
And then, obviously, the older you go, the harder you push them. Yeah.
01:06:00
jamie peacock
No, that's the thing. like ah most of the stuff I want to play is from there that era. and i checking i can play a portal on it it's like portal and portal 2 and half-life directly install steam on it and it just works so like it's been tested it works so i'm quite excited for getting my hands on one of those but yeah we'll see hopefully i don't sell out before i get around to buying one first i need to be less poor then i will buy one yeah the less pouring thing's really annoying uh but that's why i was machining tough law because i like money but yeah uh i think that
01:06:09
Curt
Yep.
01:06:11
Curt
Sick.
01:06:15
Curt
Nice.
01:06:21
Curt
I support this. Yeah, it's always so what's the what' the problem.
01:06:30
Curt
Yep.
01:06:35
jamie peacock
will tie the the shop there where can people oh wait what's in your Google box and you forgot yes Google boxing wait on it does this count as
01:06:40
Curt
Oh, right. Google box. Okay. ah Here. right.
01:06:49
jamie peacock
don't have this count as Googling on the podcast we are gonna need more most definitely ooh
01:06:52
Curt
We're going to need more. We're going need way more of those clips because everyone's going that one's so annoying. Okay, who wants to go first?
01:07:00
jamie peacock
Please tell me.
01:07:00
Curt
I don't care.
01:07:01
jamie peacock
Oh, shoot. I didn't lose my wordle.
01:07:05
Curt
Oh.
01:07:05
jamie peacock
I didn't do wordle this morning. That needs to get done shortly. It'll be 85 today. um I have no qualms about doing it. Okay. Retroid Pocket 5.
01:07:17
jamie peacock
I was looking up threadmills. I can get M2 and M3 single-point threadmills locally now, which is awesome. So I bought M2 and M3.
01:07:24
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:07:25
jamie peacock
Looking up smart lathe, shock and awe.
01:07:26
Curt
Nice.
01:07:28
jamie peacock
Looking up that, I was looking up the RG556.
01:07:29
Curt
Hmm.
01:07:32
jamie peacock
Three different tabs.
01:07:36
jamie peacock
And then how to build a retro bar handle. And then, oh, sorry, fourth time that I've got, I've been looking at the setup guide for the RG557.
01:07:48
jamie peacock
Kind of went down a bit of a rabbit hole on that one.
01:07:50
Curt
I sense a theme. I sense a theme.
01:07:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, solid theming there. But yeah, that's all that's in my Google box for this week. I've just been listening to lot of podcasts and watching a lot of YouTube over the weekend.
01:08:03
Curt
Fair, fair. ah Okay, so ah in mine, I have some ah Canada Post stuff. Once again, looking at the postal thing, DIY vapor hone. Oh, I'll put ah'll put the... Oh, no, I already have that link. Actually, I'll put a Reddit link as well. I found a really cool unit on Reddit.
01:08:16
Curt
I'll link that in the show as well. um The little fan, the one I had was the Wolfbox MF50 for people that want to know. It was on like Project Farm Review. They did the higher end review. Anyway, whatever. Pissed around with one of those if you like.
01:08:27
Curt
Not for me. A bunch of links from Elma because, yeah, going down that silly rabbit hole. ah Blasting cabinets because um the Weekend Warrior, that's from Vapor Hone Technologies. Once again, I will put that in the show notes because that's the one I was looking at. It is you built in the U.S., Vapor Hone. It is like, I don't know what the cost is on that one.
01:08:47
Curt
doesn't show me because it doesn't do it on mobile. Anyways, I have that in show. Back. And ah emergency vet for obvious reasons.
01:08:57
Curt
And oh, this is another problem.
Model SR-71 Blackbird Interest
01:09:00
Curt
um E-Flight released the SR-71 Blackbird twin 40 millimeter EDF plane, find and fly. My favorite airplane of all time.
01:09:08
Curt
And it's like licensed.
01:09:09
jamie peacock
what's a wingspan don't make the biggest uh the biggest planes usually and i assume it's got this safe cuck in it so it will fly itself yeah oh yeah that's a decent plane
01:09:11
Curt
um She's a big one. I don't know. It's probably like maybe like 70.
01:09:18
Curt
No. And it's, I think it's like E-
01:09:23
Curt
Totally. But apparently it's like, it's a four cell. She's four cell, like 2000. Like it's, it's a chunky little plane. And everyone complains. They're like, they're like, Oh, it doesn't go very fast on three. It's like, it's a fricking SR 71 run it on four and run it fast.
01:09:36
Curt
It's, built it's the fastest plane in the world.
01:09:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, run it on six, don't cock around.
01:09:37
Curt
Like, yeah. But it even has like, it has it has like the silver wheels for the landing. Like they did it right. like
01:09:43
jamie peacock
Oh nice, they did it properly.
01:09:44
Curt
i I want it. Yeah, it's like 300 bucks US, but I was like, oh, I kind of want that. Anyways, that's been my, that's been my search history.
01:09:52
jamie peacock
Nerd things, I like it.
01:09:54
Curt
Nerd things.
01:09:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, nerd things. Yeah, I got, yeah, Roger keeps sending me nerd things.
01:09:57
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:01
jamie peacock
I'm like, no, Roger, bad, no.
01:10:01
Curt
It's proper. Yeah.
01:10:04
jamie peacock
I don't need model airplanes. I mean, there's a freaking stoch sitting over there and there's an icon in that bedroom sitting on the bed that I was meant to set up an FPV rig in the icon so I could go long range FPV flying and I just never got around to it.
01:10:09
Curt
Oh, yeah.
01:10:17
Curt
Nice.
01:10:19
Curt
Yeah, I don't think I've fallen once.
01:10:20
jamie peacock
Although now that I have a boat, I'm tempted to say, cause the icons are water, a water landing craft on the boat.
01:10:25
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be sick.
01:10:28
jamie peacock
Hell yeah. Go fly around in a restricted airspace. It'll be great fun.
01:10:32
Curt
That'd be fun, yeah.
01:10:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, because the the dam that I fly at is pretty close to Joburg International Airport.
01:10:34
Curt
Right on.
01:10:39
jamie peacock
But quite frankly, if if the plane is where my plane is going to be, they have bigger problems like trees.
01:10:40
Curt
Yeah, that might be, yeah.
01:10:47
Curt
Fair, fair, fair.
01:10:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, that was always my thing.
01:10:48
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:49
jamie peacock
I can go fly a drone in the park be like, oh, you're not allowed fly. I'm like, dude, if there's a plane here, they've got fucking big problems. My little drone is not the issue.
01:10:56
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:57
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's people being people.
01:10:58
Curt
Yeah, totally.
Anchor Point Sales Process
01:11:00
jamie peacock
Um, where can people find the ability to get your things?
01:11:01
Curt
Yep.
01:11:05
Curt
ah You can find the ability to not get any of my things at confoundedmachine.com. But you can ah put your name in the contact page and I will send you messages when I have the ah whatever, when I have information or availabilities or I reopen the lotteries or whatever.
01:11:20
Curt
So if you want to harass me, you can find my email over there too. So how about you? Where can people buy an anchor point if they want one?
01:11:26
jamie peacock
So oh I forgot to mention that. Okay, cool. So anchor points available on jspeceng.com. We now have a request a quote form. Because of the whole tariff uncertainty, because of the big cheeto, you can now request a quote.
01:11:36
Curt
no
01:11:40
jamie peacock
So it'll send us an email. We will check the, because our shipping agent actually calculates the tariffs for us. We can then say to you, okay, this is the price. This is how much shipping costs with tariffs prepaid.
01:11:52
jamie peacock
um And then you can say, yeah, your name obligation, no obligation to the quote, just let's get an idea of how much how much you're going to be paying on tariffs, because I think that is a bit of a concern with uncertainty on it.
01:12:04
jamie peacock
You don't want to have to pay an extra hundred and fifty dollars when the thing hits your border her because.
01:12:08
Curt
Well, and I don't think that's an option anymore. I think everything going to the US has to be delivery duty paid because I can't get a single package in there without having it prepaid because there are reasons. Yeah.
01:12:19
jamie peacock
Okay, we will check this now.
01:12:21
Curt
yeah
01:12:21
jamie peacock
But yeah, as far as I know, i can still go with it. Duties unpaid. Because it is an option for us still. But yeah, they recommend you just do the prepaid thing. I'm like, sure, I'll just charge customer the extra. So anyway, if you're interested in Anchor Point, you can get it there.
01:12:39
jamie peacock
We are going to limit the number of blank pallets going out with them so that they fit in a smaller box. But blank pallets will be available by themselves as well. And then, yeah, shirts. Please go check out the shirts on the store as well.
01:12:51
jamie peacock
There's some new designs that been up since last week, and there will be something coming up in the next little while as well. One of the older the designs will be coming back for a week once I go chat to someone else.
Merchandise Promotion and Website Highlight
01:13:03
jamie peacock
But yeah, thank you everybody for...
01:13:03
Curt
Ooh. Ooh.
01:13:04
jamie peacock
Oh, and also, theloanmachinists.com is where you can find the podcast website with the companion guide and a link to Patreon, and there's some bonus content on there as well.
01:13:16
jamie peacock
of what happens when Kurt and I get disconnected. So can go check that out as well. And there's links to the Loan Machinist merch as well. Speaking of, Jan from the Netherlands bought a mug.
01:13:27
jamie peacock
So I need to ask him for a picture when it arrives because he's the first person to have bought a mug from the, or he bought a Loan Machinist mug on the store.
01:13:32
Curt
o
01:13:35
Curt
didn't I didn't know we had mugs. I gotta go check us out. We have so many neat things I don't even know we have.
01:13:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, mugs and water bottles.
01:13:39
Curt
Ooh.
01:13:39
jamie peacock
Okay, while Kurt Googles, thank you everybody for watching. And we will see you on the next one. And for all the patrons, we'll see you on the after show.
01:13:49
Curt
Take care, all.