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Ep. 42: Tighten It ’Til It Feels Expensive
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Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as Progress with the Goodway, DLCing pens, and Kyocera inserts breaking chips.
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Transcript
Introduction to Lone Machinist Podcast
00:00:14
jspec_engineering
Welcome to the Lone Machinist podcast, where it's just you, the machine, and the work in your shop.
Machinery and Modifications Overview
00:00:20
jspec_engineering
Kurt, what are you up to? have you been up to this week?
00:00:22
Curt
ah This week i'm going to talk about the new Sile Swiss machine, my continued fourth axis adventures, and someone DLC'd one of my pens and it's freaking hot. How about you? What are you talking about?
00:00:32
jspec_engineering
It is.
00:00:33
Curt
Thanks.
00:00:33
jspec_engineering
ah That constant service speed is literally magic. I'm retrofitting yet another lathe. um And Kyocera inserts actually break chips.
00:00:42
Curt
Nice.
00:00:43
jspec_engineering
But yeah, let's ah let's get into the podcast. How are you doing this fine day, Kurt?
00:00:47
Curt
I'm doing fantastic. It's finally getting cold here. I'm going go harvest my carrots after this podcast because it's getting snowy already. And yeah, how about you?
00:00:54
jspec_engineering
Nice.
00:00:55
Curt
and
00:00:56
jspec_engineering
Yeah, I heard there was snow. I was listening to PFG and the widget works were saying there's snow. Yep.
00:01:01
Curt
It's gross. it's Yeah, whatever. It is. It is the season. So yeah.
00:01:06
jspec_engineering
Oh, dear.
00:01:07
Curt
But whatever.
00:01:08
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:01:08
Curt
How's sunny South Africa?
Lathe Acquisition for Carl
00:01:11
jspec_engineering
Sunny and warm. ah Yeah, in been working all weekend and all day. Went to go look at another late this morning.
00:01:19
Curt
Yet another one?
00:01:21
jspec_engineering
Yeah, not for me though.
00:01:22
Curt
Okay.
00:01:23
jspec_engineering
um Yeah, it's for Carl. He got himself successfully fired last week, so now he needs a machine.
00:01:29
Curt
Ooh. That's um that's an impetus to do it.
00:01:31
jspec_engineering
yes uh no no it was um necessary there was going to be a drowning in a coolant tank it was a matter of time so yeah he left he left on pretty good terms he actually took them work today his old boss because he doesn't have a lathe currently so yeah you he left before it got like bad and he burnt bridges but yeah we went go look at a lay this morning that was like my whole freaking morning
00:01:40
Curt
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:01:46
Curt
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:01:56
jspec_engineering
um was driving out like a 35 minute drive to shitville to go look at a machine that lost its parameters seems to be a theme so yeah message the guy on friday about the machine
00:02:04
Curt
Ah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:02:11
jspec_engineering
and then arranged to go see it on mut today or Monday. And then Cole met me there and had a look at the machine. Pokes right on the back. and Unfortunately, we're not going to be able to salvage any of the drives because we're going to rig it for single phase so that it's easy to flog when he wants to move on.
00:02:25
jspec_engineering
It's a flatbed lathe. 320 so one foot diameter turning diameter bar 480 long so one and a half foot long it's a decent lathe little gang lathe so we're going to put quick change tool post on it for him for the kind of work he needs to do that's that's perfect so gonna get it uh yeah was chatting to him this evening uh he was like no just wants to make sure he's got financing like that he doesn't want to go into debt to buy the machine so like yeah he wants to try to minimize his risk so he him and his soon to be fiance my cousin um they chatted about it i got a message now they're buying it it's it's they're not going to get another deal i mean the whole machine was like two and half thousand dollars
00:02:50
Curt
yeah Oh, yeah, okay.
Logistics of Machine Setup
00:03:07
jspec_engineering
So, yeah, we're going to get it rigged probably.
00:03:07
Curt
Hmm.
00:03:10
jspec_engineering
asked him to get pricing to rig it to his house and to rig it to my house because it would be easier to rig it into my house. We've got all the tools. We get it going in the driveway and then they rig it to his house.
00:03:19
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:20
jspec_engineering
So we'll see what but the cost on those because he's also like a 25-minute drive from me. So we'll see what the rigging costs are going to be. Otherwise, I'll just have to go work on it in evenings at his house. So he's up and running. But, I mean, there's a couple of evenings to get it running.
00:03:34
jspec_engineering
It's not a but a big thing. It's a lathe. Left, right, up, down.
00:03:37
Curt
Yeah, I guess he has not a ton. Nice.
00:03:40
jspec_engineering
And I'm busy with the retrofit, so it's going to just be following, and everything's still going to be fresh.
00:03:46
Curt
nice Where's, ah where's, or where are you at with that retrofit? Like, are you still at like owning one and a half lathes or?
00:03:53
jspec_engineering
I technically own two lathes.
00:03:55
Curt
Okay.
00:03:55
jspec_engineering
I own half of lathe and half well, half of my new lathe and half of my old lathe and the EMCO. um And then as I've been prepping to get Bertha out, I've been doing one or two little upgrades on her because I had another VFD. I'm like, let me put the VFD in.
00:04:09
jspec_engineering
Then we've got analog out for the current on the VFD.
00:04:13
Curt
Right, right.
00:04:13
jspec_engineering
So we have spindle load. Turns out the VFD I had in there for the last four years is was just a piece of hot shit. And this new VFD I can take proper cuts with now.
00:04:23
Curt
Oh, well, it's unfortunate to figure it out now, but.
00:04:25
jspec_engineering
Yeah, really. is what it is it where it's going it'll be appreciated i got that integrated i can't find my role of led strips to make a new uh what them uh tower lights the tower light led strip is poked so i'm busy looking around for my led strips there somewhere but i was thinking of making a smart tower light
00:04:38
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:04:49
Curt
How so smart?
00:04:52
jspec_engineering
so esp32 connects to home
00:04:53
Curt
Okay.
Innovative Ideas and Upgrades
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jspec_engineering
assistance when you turn your machine on it turns on and knows the machine is on and then you so you run 24 volts to it and you run uh the signal wire for your green light there we go tracking down little magnet box you stick side of your machine and it will do everything it needs to can have an rgb led in it that flashes and does the same things as the um as the tower lights so i'm thinking of maybe doing one of those for the good way
00:04:55
Curt
Oh, nice. Okay.
00:05:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:20
Curt
Hmm. ah be cool. Yeah, that'd be cool.
00:05:22
jspec_engineering
Yeah, the good way i have some plans for the tower lights.
00:05:27
Curt
okay nice
00:05:29
jspec_engineering
It's going to be printed. I have some plans. We'll see how these plans materialize and how vulgar they are.
00:05:35
Curt
is it gonna yeah and i say is it gonna be like phallic pal or uh the status light
00:05:39
jspec_engineering
It might be. It might be. Either that it's going to make a ring of middle fingers. One of the two.
00:05:46
jspec_engineering
So, and I've been, haven't really, well, I've done, I made the new spindle nose. That's it. I dropped it for heat treating today. So that's getting heated. Heat treated to 54 Rockwell. Then I'm going to Parkerize it and then I'm going to hard turn it to final size.
00:05:58
Curt
Nice.
00:05:59
jspec_engineering
So it'll be black with these bright features, which is going to look fricking sexy.
00:06:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:03
jspec_engineering
Um, Yeah, so that's been made. i stripped the servos and I gutted the stuff out last week. I've sold the Finuc stuff.
00:06:11
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:06:12
jspec_engineering
So i recouped about $5,000. No, yes, maybe. No, $500 for all the Finuc stuff.
00:06:20
Curt
Hmm.
00:06:21
jspec_engineering
Sorry, the maths is hard.
00:06:22
Curt
ah
00:06:23
jspec_engineering
um That's going down to Durban. At some point, i'm waiting for the guys to sort out payments and then I'll ship that off to them. um Those motors were freaking filthy. Everything in there filthy. I need to get all of the FlexiLube guys. I'm buying a bottle of kill everything juice because there's coolant in my new machine.
00:06:41
Curt
Yeah,
00:06:43
jspec_engineering
Yeah. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to get coolant pump running, throw the kill everything juice in it, circulate it for like a day, and then suck it out, put flex, so like a light mix of FlexiLube in, circulate that, suck that out, and then put fresh coolant in
00:06:57
Curt
probably.
Workshop Reorganization Plans
00:06:58
jspec_engineering
in the hopes that I get six months out of the but of the new coolant.
00:06:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:07:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:07:03
jspec_engineering
Also, Bertha's coolant is going with the machine.
00:07:05
Curt
Oh.
00:07:08
jspec_engineering
No, the coolant in Bertha is still good. And the guy buying it is like stretching a bit to buy it. So he's like, ah can he have the coolant? I'm like, yeah, was going to turf it anyway.
00:07:15
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:07:16
jspec_engineering
Bring drums, I'll pump it into into drums for you. like
00:07:18
Curt
Okay.
00:07:18
jspec_engineering
He's a little bit tight for cash on the
00:07:24
jspec_engineering
on the retrofit. Oh, cool. Our spreadsheet's possessed.
00:07:27
Curt
Yeah, I briefly tried to fix it, but I was like, oh, whatever.
00:07:29
jspec_engineering
don't know if you saw that.
00:07:31
Curt
Let's just...
00:07:32
jspec_engineering
Okay, that's fine. Deal with it later. um Yeah, so anyway, yeah. the The good way, end of this week is when I'm targeting having it put in my driveway. Had the rigors out last week. I'm actually waiting for the quote now.
00:07:44
jspec_engineering
don't know when it sent it today. We're going to put it up right by my gate and then I've got some 2x4s and some tops and I'm literally going to build a tent around it. Because it's it's now a rainy season, obviously.
00:07:55
Curt
and Right.
00:07:55
jspec_engineering
um But yeah, they wanted to put it up there so when they take Bertha out, we're going to pull the M car out quickly They're going to jack Bertha, put it on skates, skate it out the door and then fork it from the side. So they need to bring the forklift down right by my garages.
00:08:11
jspec_engineering
So they'll fork it and then drive it out. And then they'll pick the good way up and bring the good way in. And then I've decided that the slow EO is going by the door.
00:08:19
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:08:20
jspec_engineering
So we're going to end up with the LK. If I'm standing at the LK, next to me will be the Emco, and behind kind of behind and to the side will be the good way. And then right behind where the LK is, where the Slowio currently is, the shelf that's by the el bar Bertha is going to go there.
00:08:35
jspec_engineering
And my toolbox is going to go there behind the Anno setup.
00:08:38
Curt
ah Okay, okay.
00:08:39
jspec_engineering
So um it should all fit. Fusion says it all fits. So we will we will see.
00:08:44
Curt
Nice. So he's got to play a little Tetris to get everything around here.
00:08:46
jspec_engineering
But yeah, so.
00:08:46
Curt
yeah
00:08:48
jspec_engineering
Yeah, exactly. And then, yeah, Slowio is right by the door for when it needs to go.
00:08:52
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.
00:08:55
jspec_engineering
and like I've got Oaks fighting over buying it. It's great.
00:08:57
Curt
Oh, well, that's nice.
00:08:58
jspec_engineering
um
00:08:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:59
jspec_engineering
Yeah, I don't want to sell it, but I might.
00:09:02
Curt
i I get it, yeah.
00:09:02
jspec_engineering
It's, yeah. Yeah, it's useful. Yeah, useful if you don't have a machine.
00:09:08
Curt
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
00:09:10
jspec_engineering
Yeah. um
00:09:12
Curt
Slick.
00:09:12
jspec_engineering
Hang on, let me fix it. Okay, there we go. So, what's happening on your side of the world, Kurt?
00:09:16
Curt
ah So, on my side the world, I'm just quickly trying to read through things here. um but There we go. um So, I i i contacted, um they're they're shipping me, or like my style distributor in Canada. um I think I talked about last week. He's shipping me the little...
00:09:30
jspec_engineering
Yeah, the Saki Matrons.
00:09:30
Curt
air cleaners i bought whatever yeah whatever um so and i briefly talked to him about uh the uh their new the g2 the style g2 which is a swiss style lathe um so was like hey shoot me a quote like let me let me know what it costs um i kind of want to just i mean swiss is definitely what i'm planning um i want to know what that one costs um and so he's again no sweat so he sent me quote and uh it's about it works out once you get like it built properly um i think it's about 80 80 000
00:09:31
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
00:10:00
Curt
So it's not cheap, but I mean, in Swiss land, it's cheap, 80, 90,000 or so.
00:10:01
jspec_engineering
Okay.
00:10:04
jspec_engineering
No. Yeah. And it's a new machine, not a... Well, I
00:10:09
Curt
Yeah.
Sile Swiss Lathe Evaluation
00:10:10
jspec_engineering
don't know that a new machine...
00:10:11
jspec_engineering
New style is any better than a old...
00:10:12
Curt
Uh, that's kind of, yeah. I mean, the I do like that. It like, it has is the same control as my X5. It's got a Siemens control.
00:10:18
jspec_engineering
Yes.
00:10:18
Curt
So that's kind of nice. Um,
00:10:20
jspec_engineering
Yeah, no, no, hundreds.
00:10:20
Curt
And like the live tool, the spindle speeds are great.
00:10:21
jspec_engineering
Yes.
00:10:23
Curt
And like everything else seems pretty good about it, but it's unproven. Like I'm no idea about it.
00:10:27
jspec_engineering
Yes.
00:10:27
Curt
So he's quickly like, Hey, if you want to be the first one to bring it into Canada, he's like, you know, that's, I'm like, dude, I'm like, I play this game with the X5 already. I'm like, I don't think I have any kind of, any kind of interest in being the first customer again.
00:10:36
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:10:39
Curt
Um, sunny so then he's i guess he talked to sile and so was like hey like yeah you had a shitty experience with us and like we're sorry for it and then she's like so we can give you a pretty monster credit for the if you wanted to go with this and i was like oh well don't say that so so yeah yeah like it's yeah it was decent i think they're don't know i think it was like i don't know if i should say anyways um they're gonna give me a like a pretty significant it was it was enough to make it like huh okay well maybe i'll take a gamble on that then like anyway so i gotta figure out like
00:10:40
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:10:53
jspec_engineering
Yeah, that's so compelling.
00:11:02
jspec_engineering
Yeah, that was a lot.
00:11:10
Curt
power requirements and like a bunch of other things um like bar feeder like i'm not going to put a 20 foot bar feeder on it even though that's kind of what you should do with a swiss it's just i don't have don't the space i could technically make it work if i want to get renovated and start blowing holes in my house but it's like ah like i'm not even i'm not going to ship for like the longest time i'm not going to ship bars in at 20 feet like at the longest i'll ship them in at 12 feet because it's just it's more economical for me so i'm like well let's get a
00:11:32
jspec_engineering
no even that's freaking long yeah
00:11:38
Curt
12 foot is still huge. Like I would rather six foot, but I mean, if I want to gain some runtime, it makes sense to go as long as I can.
00:11:45
jspec_engineering
yeah not 100% yeah yeah
00:11:46
Curt
Like for the small parts, it doesn't matter. Um, like, cause I could get hundreds of them, but like out of pen bodies, the longer, the better. Cause they're, you know, five, six inches each. So it takes up some, it eats up bar fast. Um, especially on a machine that's built to do that.
00:11:56
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:11:57
Curt
Uh, so yeah, looking at bar feeders, I think I'd probably go with 12 footer. Um, but I gotta, like, I gotta figure out power requirements and, ah like if i want to run the high pressure pumps that's totally different because those tank like they take a ton of power like they'll probably draw you know close to what i have for server yeah totally like they'll draw way more than the machine will the machine is only like what 10 kilowatts but you know the high pressure pump is going to draw that
00:12:13
jspec_engineering
More than the machine. but yeah that's like um What's the router that Tormach do?
00:12:24
jspec_engineering
The vacuum pump pulls more power than the router.
00:12:26
Curt
oh absolutely yeah yeah yeah yes
00:12:29
jspec_engineering
Same with the Datron Neo. The vacuum pump charges more power than the whole machine.
00:12:33
Curt
Yeah, like the big routers I used to work at my old day job, we had two huge... and they The same thing, they drew 90% the power was with the vacuum pumps because they're just monsters.
00:12:36
jspec_engineering
yeah yeah yeah just creating a whole bunch of suck
00:12:44
Curt
So... Yeah. Yeah, so anyways, just been kind of going about it. I'm not doing anything until at least the spring because I'm not rigging a machine when it's snowing here and it's minus 40.
00:12:54
jspec_engineering
noob yeah no no that's uh i'm very curious to see who's going to be the first one to get all those machines and how capable they are
00:12:54
Curt
It just sucks so much. um But just trying to get my ducks in an order.
00:13:03
Curt
Yeah, like... ah yeah
00:13:06
jspec_engineering
I'm assuming clockwise of CNC will have one, although maybe not, because that would compete with their torno steel.
00:13:09
Curt
I don't know.
00:13:12
jspec_engineering
So it would be interesting to see if they do get one.
00:13:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:15
Curt
Yeah, like, I don't... And that's the problem. it's like, I can't... I would not trust them, unfortunately, because, like, they're...
00:13:21
jspec_engineering
No, obviously not.
00:13:22
Curt
Like, just look at their track record for everything. It's like, it's not... yeah I'm not going for them for an impartial view.
00:13:26
jspec_engineering
Yeah, it's the greatest thing ever until they stop paying, and then, yeah, then it's garbage.
00:13:27
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah.
00:13:32
Curt
Totally. And like, yeah, I'd much rather just a ah guy like me buy it in his garage and be like, Hey, it's good.
00:13:33
jspec_engineering
I don't know.
00:13:36
Curt
Or Hey, it's bad. So we'll see.
00:13:37
jspec_engineering
yeah i'm sure someone will get one at some point
00:13:39
Curt
We'll see. I mean, yeah. Price wise, like why not? So yeah.
00:13:44
jspec_engineering
yeah yeah pretty compelling so yeah i'm very interested to see i'm keeping it out for when someone gets one because i want to see how they work how well they work because
00:13:46
Curt
But yeah, that's been my, my main fun. Um, and yeah.
00:13:56
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Well, and like, I'm, if my lathe goes down, like I'm
Supply Chain Management Issues
00:14:01
Curt
dead in the water. Like I need another lathe just as the, like even like a belt and suspenders approach. Like if my hard engine goes down, which is very unlikely because like I can fix most things on it.
00:14:07
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:14:10
jspec_engineering
Well, if it does, you can fix it.
00:14:11
Curt
Yeah. But if like, if the carriage cracks in half or something, you know, where it's just like a no go, it's like I'm hosed.
00:14:11
jspec_engineering
but yeah
00:14:17
Curt
Like, and the chance of that happening or be pretty, pretty ragged, but like, you know what i mean?
00:14:19
jspec_engineering
Then I have questions about what you were doing when it cracked in half.
00:14:23
Curt
Like as the spindle goes bad or something like the bearings on that are, would be a super big pain in the ass to ever try to replace
00:14:24
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:14:27
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:14:30
Curt
even Hardish doesn't recommend Anyways, it's just like, it'd be nice to have a ah secondary because I, I would die.
00:14:31
jspec_engineering
Yeah, no, no, sure.
00:14:35
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:14:35
Curt
Like, yeah, yeah, totally.
00:14:36
jspec_engineering
No, backup plan. Oh, was discussing that today. Like, I've got customer... My favorite customer, the diesel guys.
00:14:44
Curt
Hmm.
00:14:45
jspec_engineering
They placed the order for a whopping 50 parts.
00:14:48
Curt
Ooh.
00:14:48
jspec_engineering
Oh, my. um They only have 184 tubes in stock. They were keeping 1,000 in stock.
00:14:56
Curt
Hmm.
00:14:56
jspec_engineering
So they've gone through all their stock. They're going to order 50. I got the PO on Wednesday or Thursday last week. So I ordered material. So I'm not doing anything without a PO.
00:15:07
jspec_engineering
Order material, meh, maybe it'll be there Friday, didn't a arrive on Friday, arrives today. Before the material arrives, get an email. ah When can we expect our parts? So I'm like, listen, yeah, material's been ordered.
00:15:18
jspec_engineering
But if you're lucky, end of the week, I'm waiting for material. Like, sorry, my vendors take as long as they take. I'm not getting in my truck and driving to fetch material on a $300 order.
00:15:27
Curt
Right, right.
00:15:27
jspec_engineering
You've got to be kidding me. So yeah, they um think I'm going to actually just call a meeting with the CEO there and say, hey, we need to have a sit down and discuss supply chains here because you folks are fucking yourselves and me into a corner.
00:15:41
jspec_engineering
And we need to address this before it becomes a fucking problem. Because what's happening now, all the middle management guys are trying to protect themselves. They're trying to cover their arses. No one wants to commit to anything because they don't want to to come back to them if there's a problem.
00:15:53
Curt
right right
00:15:54
jspec_engineering
So, yeah, I'm the one fucking left with the fuckery on that. So, yeah, and of the the CEO actually ah reached out. He needs something made for his Land Rover restoration or whatever.
00:16:06
jspec_engineering
So next time he finds I'm like, hey we need to have a chat about your clowns and your business because they're a bunch of fucking clowns and you're about to lose a supplier.
00:16:15
Curt
Well, the thing is, he might not even know. He might just be like, oh, yeah, no sweat.
00:16:19
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:16:19
Curt
we We'll fix it. Not a problem. Like, he might just be completely unaware of the issue. And yeah, it's totally, yeah, talking is a good thing. Yeah.
00:16:25
jspec_engineering
Yeah, no, I'm just I'm gonna go over all of their fucking heads because I'm tired of it now. Like I've had enough of their of the bullshit. It's yeah, I mean, I bought a ah buying a new lathe because there's promises of orders I need to be able to run parts without having the bar loader run them because the bar loader is somewhat unreliable.
00:16:42
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:16:42
jspec_engineering
So I need to be able to do the stuff like unattended and by bar loader I mean my lovely wife who edits this podcast and is great at all things. um Yeah, like I was running parts today, set the laid up and yeah running.
VFD Troubleshooting and Solutions
00:16:55
jspec_engineering
But then, yeah, there's two topics that I'm going to jump into quickly.
00:16:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:59
jspec_engineering
So I replaced the VFD on Bertha. And it's now a beast, except never, ever, ever, ever, ever ever ever ever use a Wago on an Earth with a noisy Earth.
00:17:12
Curt
Oh, fair. Yeah. Yeah. fair
00:17:14
jspec_engineering
Never ever had them on my laser cutter.
00:17:15
Curt
yeah
00:17:16
jspec_engineering
And then my laser cutter would hit the autism every now and again. And I'll go wiggle the wires and it will be fine.
00:17:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:22
jspec_engineering
So with the high frequency noise coming back through the Earth on the laser, especially from the high voltage power supply, it would actually make it into bits and joints in the WAGO connector because it's super light current but high frequency.
00:17:34
jspec_engineering
Anyway, the Earth on there was causing problems today. So every now and again, your TIT cycle starts and then the line XCNC will shit the bed. Go, what's it following?
00:17:46
jspec_engineering
your
00:17:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:49
jspec_engineering
Then the EMCO, The servo drive that runs the spindle did that to me today twice.
00:17:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:56
jspec_engineering
Hit a freak out and it's never ever skipped a beat since it's been in there. Did it twice to me today, but I was running Bertha.
00:18:03
Curt
isn
00:18:03
jspec_engineering
So I'm going to fix that earth in the morning and see if that solves my problems. But I'm pretty sure that's what the issue is because ah ah the wire wasn't long enough, so I put a way to go. like an idiot so i'll just find some earth cable tomorrow and run a longer longer earthing wire to it but yeah never ever use a wago on an earth if it's high frequency uh source because that earth goes to the uh to the emr filter and obviously if that's not earth then it ain't doing so
00:18:14
Curt
yeah
00:18:29
Curt
Or just never use a WAGO.
00:18:33
jspec_engineering
wago's are the best i love wago's i love them by machines like all the power buses wago's
00:18:34
Curt
I'm not a fan. maybe um Maybe I'm in the...
00:18:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:41
jspec_engineering
Um, even the, even the new machine planning, where goes, where go everything?
00:18:45
Curt
Yeah, I'm a direct solder kind of person. and
00:18:48
jspec_engineering
Dude. Oh, no, not on AC.
00:18:51
Curt
solder.
00:18:51
jspec_engineering
So my, my cable that, so yeah.
00:18:52
Curt
Oh, not sorry. Yeah, not on AC. Yeah, fair enough.
00:18:55
jspec_engineering
So the cable that powers Bertha, Bertha used to plug into a, you've seen, I'll show you the plugs that we have in South Africa. For those watching the video, it's these behemoths of a plug.
00:19:06
Curt
it's a it's a dryer plug for yeah it's it looks like a dryer plug yeah yeah
00:19:06
jspec_engineering
That's our standard wall plug. Yeah. Yeah. It's rated for 16 amps. Bertha used to plug into one of those until I blew three of the switches on our plug points in one day.
00:19:20
jspec_engineering
Then it got wired directly and except the wire I had was too short like three feet. So I had a three-piece, three-foot off cut of wire. So I connected that and then I put WAGOS and it has run with WAGOS for like two and a years.
00:19:34
jspec_engineering
Well, three years. They don't get warm. Cable gets warm if you're running really hard, but the Wagos don't. If it's dumb and it works, it's not dumb, Kurt.
00:19:42
Curt
yeah ah yeah no fair enough yeah I yeah oh
00:19:46
jspec_engineering
We also, ah we had some really hard rain yesterday and now my compressed airlines are full water.
00:19:51
Curt
oh gross yeah
00:19:53
jspec_engineering
Yeah. ah have I have some some intrusive thoughts that I'm thinking for a chiller. um I was thinking of making an evaporative
Workshop Challenges and Solutions
00:20:02
jspec_engineering
chiller. So I've got, i think you've got the copper lines on your wall as well.
00:20:05
jspec_engineering
So I've only got like three of them. I was thinking of maybe just building a box around them and putting a bucket of water at the bottom and pumping water over the top that just sprinkles down them to maybe be a little more efficient.
00:20:16
Curt
i hundred percent I 100% what I was going to do is I was going to buy one of those mini fridges and just put it below it and then put a bucket of water in there with a pump and then the exact same thing and i was like okay and in my land refrigerated dryers aren't that expensive so I was like yeah i'm like I'll buy one of those and not cobble this together
00:20:24
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:20:31
jspec_engineering
Oh, cheap, yeah.
00:20:37
jspec_engineering
I like cobbling things, but yeah, my shop's due for a serious rearrange now.
00:20:37
Curt
I do too. Yeah.
00:20:42
jspec_engineering
My tumbler needs to get the fuck out. It's way too loud.
00:20:44
Curt
Hmm.
00:20:45
jspec_engineering
So it's going end up in the outside dirty room because far yeah I was running it today and yeah I wanted to pull my fucking hair out. So I've got a workbench in the outside room that was my dad's and i don't want to get rid of but I also don't need a workbench in that outside room.
00:21:00
Curt
Okay. Hmm.
00:21:01
jspec_engineering
i need to figure out what I'm doing with tumblers because they it can't stay where it is because when the good way goes and I need access to the so it's the joys of a small workshop yeah it's great fun actually just look at all my emails yeah
00:21:10
Curt
yep yep gotta i know i've been contemplating i was like contemplating i was like i should build a bunch of like shelving around here so like because i have so much like airspace above like four feet that just is air but it's kind of nice to have like it feels big and i was like i should just build shelves for like shelves over the lathe shelves everywhere because i could have way more storage
00:21:24
jspec_engineering
yeah yes
00:21:33
Curt
And I was like, oh, I don't know if i want to do that yet because then it limits moving around. And yeah, i don't know.
00:21:38
jspec_engineering
Yeah, I wanted to build one over the M code to hold bar stock and I just never got around to having my mates come with their welder and weld the frame up for me. But I think I might do it now once I rearrange.
00:21:49
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:50
jspec_engineering
But yeah, the rearranging is you need to plan it out carefully.
00:21:54
Curt
Yep. Yep.
00:21:54
jspec_engineering
Because I know where there's that shelf next to my blue toolbox that's on the back of Bertha. And I have nowhere to put that once I rearrange. So now I've figured out where i can put that. Because I use that space for storing all the in-process stuff for for the LK.
00:22:10
jspec_engineering
So I can't really get rid of it. But yeah, now this coming week is getting Colin to help me. We're going clean workshop and just sort stuff. Because I can leave him to clean. And he won't throw shit away because he has a brain.
00:22:23
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:22:24
jspec_engineering
And yes, yes, Carl, when you listen, that was a compliment. um
00:22:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:29
jspec_engineering
Yeah, no, I can keep machines running and he will help clean and not just turf shit.
00:22:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:37
jspec_engineering
So he'll be ah around help me with that, which will be fun.
00:22:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:41
jspec_engineering
The perks of having a fired cousin's boyfriend.
00:22:44
Curt
Nice, yeah. Unemployed help.
00:22:46
jspec_engineering
Yeah, so what did what have you been doing with
00:22:46
Curt
Yeah, perfect.
Precision in Machining and Troubleshooting
00:22:51
jspec_engineering
NC Viewer?
00:22:51
Curt
So I've been fighting with this fourth axis on my style to get the patterning perfect on the little iso grip patterns I do on the pens. And I keep running into issues and first of all like I had that curving issue which we fixed um that was ah feed rate issues and then I Altered my post after talking to naughty performance to not output inverse time just to output, you know straight linear moves and that doesn't do because I thought it was maybe the brake cycling on and off on the fourth axis I was giving me issues that didn't fix anything um But it's cool that I have now have a post that can spit that out So it's like hmm.
00:23:06
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:16
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:23:25
Curt
Okay So then I pissed around more with ah dialing in the smoothing settings. And smoothing actually worked better when it wasn't jumping in and out of inverse time, when it was just staying in like linear feed.
00:23:36
jspec_engineering
Okay. Yeah.
00:23:37
Curt
It worked better without... like but when like I could drop the Cyclate 32, the smoothing setting way, way, way down, and it would still machine fairly smoothly. So I've solved like 95% of the issues, but I'm getting one overcut on a corner, and...
00:23:50
Curt
I can't like, it's driving me insane. So I turned off smoothing, even though it makes a jerky cut, it's still overcuts on the corner.
00:23:56
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:23:56
Curt
So i'm like, Oh, I'm like, well, this is obviously like a backlash thing. So I checked the backlash. The machine is set for zero. There's no backlash on it. Um, like digitally compensated. I mean, um, so I'm like, Oh, it must be mechanical.
00:24:06
jspec_engineering
Yep. Yep.
00:24:07
Curt
So I measured all the axes and there's like, it's within a 10th everywhere. So i'm like, okay, well, and I'm, I'm seeing like maybe three, four thou of overcut. So it's like, it's significant. um So I was like, okay, well, it's tool pressure. So then I ran like every different tool path, even coming in with like a one 30 second, taking a skim cut to see if that would just no, no tool pressure essentially with spring passes and everything still overcutting.
00:24:28
Curt
So like, okay. So I tried different feed strategies. I tried spiraling into it to have like zero cutter impact and where the cutter comes in and out. I see a witness mark, but it's like a 10th or two. It's what I,
00:24:38
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:24:39
Curt
yeah I expect that.
00:24:39
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Yeah. don't have decreometer.
00:24:40
Curt
That's fine. Um, but this is still overcutting and I'm like, what the F? So I check my fourth axis. I'm like, maybe there's lash in the fourth. So there's no compensated backlash. And I measured the lash and the fourth is super tight.
00:24:53
Curt
Um, it's a little slow, which is interesting. Like if I take it, like, let's say you're taking it in degrees, but I was measuring in cause don't have a degree measuring anyways.
00:25:00
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:25:02
Curt
So I take it, let's say 10th forward.
00:25:03
jspec_engineering
you have ac degree on
00:25:04
Curt
I don't have a degree-o-meter. So I'm measuring about four inches out on the platter of the fourth and with a dial the indicator on it.
00:25:09
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Interesting.
00:25:10
Curt
I click it over a tenth. And oddly enough, it worked out to almost a tenth, even though it's doing degrees, which is kind of funny. um So like like I'll click it a tenth and it'll a tenth. And like you you can see the machine... like Because obviously the the encoder must be on the axis, not on the... So the servo drive is slowly moving until it hits it and then it stops. So it's a little slower. But anyways, it's still...
00:25:32
Curt
less than a 10th so um it's not there and i'm like where are you so i like slowed way down still the same issue i'm like i'm losing my mind like i have no idea and then i started feeling like i put an instagram post up like there's that breaking bad episode where um walt is like walking around the workshop trying to find the fly and i'm like this is this is me trying to fix this because i'm like no one will see this unless you're looking for it it's the only time you'll see it but it's like i'm like it shouldn't be like my little kurt machine doesn't do it
00:25:33
jspec_engineering
interesting yeah
00:25:54
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:25:58
jspec_engineering
Doesn't have a deal.
00:25:58
Curt
Yeah. So and i was like, you know what? NC viewer, I bet you it's points because it's doing it right. So anyways, I put into NC viewer and I look between the points of like, let's say, ah imagine a triangle. So you're coming into the, one of the corners of a triangle and then coming away.
00:26:11
Curt
There's a point right at the corner because it's, it's cutting sharp. And then the next point is where the deviation is happening between those two points.
00:26:15
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Yeah. Jeez. Yeah.
00:26:19
Curt
So the next thing I'm going to do is I'm just going to flood the bitch with points. Like, it's maybe so it's, it's maybe reading like a hundred points around the triangle.
00:26:24
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:26:27
Curt
i'm going to make it like a thousand. Like I'm like, it can't like, it'll handle the processing, but I'm like, I'm just going to smooth the living piss out of this thing until it's choking on code and see if that fixes it.
00:26:31
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:26:37
Curt
So yeah, anyways, I'm just, I'm going fricking bonkers trying to figure this out. Cause I'm like, how can this machine that is infinitely more precise than my Kurt? Like I can push on my Kurt and wiggle it by a you know few thou easily.
00:26:47
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:26:48
Curt
And it does so much better of a job. And I was like, I don't get it. and i'm running the same feed rates, the same toolpaths, like the exact same code on both machines. And the style does it differently. i'm like, I'm going nuts.
00:26:59
Curt
I'm going nuts. So, but yeah, looking in NC viewer was super nice.
00:27:00
jspec_engineering
yeah that's a bit frustrating out curiosity where in the triangle is this happening if uh is it in the point of the triangle
00:27:06
Curt
Right.
00:27:09
Curt
Yes.
00:27:10
jspec_engineering
ah Like, so it's not on the off center one. So it's as you're, you're rotating back to effectively zero, and then going this way.
00:27:17
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, is right here coming? Like, yeah, two sides of the triangles are done on with both axes moving, and one is just done with the X coming across, and it's it's always that one.
00:27:20
jspec_engineering
Okay.
00:27:23
jspec_engineering
Which?
00:27:26
jspec_engineering
Yes. Yes. the The ones that are doing it, the angled ones.
00:27:32
Curt
when it comes When it's moving along the X, when it moves from the X back to, like, a two position where the fourth and the X are moving in simultaneous, that's where it's always happening.
00:27:43
jspec_engineering
Okay, so you're rotating, rotating, and then when it starts doing this, it's overshooting on this corner, for instance.
00:27:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:48
Curt
correct correct yeah and i have no i have i have no idea why and i thought i'm like oh i'm like it's a sharp point so i'll make them radiuses so i changed the the code so it was seeing radius cells on on every corner because i'm like maybe that'll help i did nothing it still does it so i'm like what is going on
00:27:53
jspec_engineering
Hmm.
00:28:04
jspec_engineering
I think your fourth is overshooting.
00:28:07
Curt
sorry what
00:28:09
jspec_engineering
I think your fourth is overshooting.
00:28:12
Curt
Like, maybe. it's like it It looks like the fourth is basically... It would be like if the fourth rotated a little bit too fast initially and then caught up. like if it went Like, if the X was coming across, it's hard to so hard to visualize this on a podcast.
00:28:26
jspec_engineering
Yeah. know
00:28:27
Curt
Imagine your X axis moving left or right.
00:28:28
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:28:30
Curt
It doesn't matter in this instance. um in In my world, it's moving right.
00:28:32
jspec_engineering
Okay, so we're coming into the bottom corner.
00:28:34
Curt
And then right as it gets... We're coming into the bottom corner of a triangle.
00:28:36
jspec_engineering
Okay. So you're coming. in yeah
00:28:38
Curt
And then right as we hit...
00:28:39
jspec_engineering
and is it But is it happening? Is it happening when the fourth is changing direction?
00:28:46
Curt
Not on any other point except that one.
00:28:52
Curt
Like...
00:28:52
jspec_engineering
um Yeah, but there... you would be yeah okay good point yes yes i'm wondering if yeah that's hmm
00:28:57
Curt
Oh, I kind of see what you mean. Like the fourth wound up, let's say, clockwise to get there, and then it's unwinding counterclockwise. Yeah. ah
00:29:06
Curt
like And that's the problem is there's no compensation on the on the fourth. What I should do is put a pin out of the fourth axis axes and the dial indicator. So when the code is running, let's say that pin just bumps the dial indicator.
00:29:18
Curt
like So I can see it zero and then I can see it come off zero.
00:29:20
jspec_engineering
so what yeah
00:29:22
Curt
That might be something.
00:29:23
jspec_engineering
i You can go into the settings on the Siemens controller and see the access output, the direct encoder pulses.
00:29:28
Curt
like Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:30
jspec_engineering
um And then you you would have to figure out what that angle that it's going to is. And you could see if it's overshooting when it runs the program.
00:29:40
Curt
I wonder if it's actually... Yeah, I wonder if...
00:29:42
jspec_engineering
Because you can see it while it's running the program, you can access those parameters.
00:29:45
Curt
I wonder if it's a little bit of PID on the controller for the fourth.
00:29:50
jspec_engineering
I think it's PID on your but fourth. Oh, your fourth might need to tune up.
00:29:54
Curt
Because that or that actual... Like, if I look under a magnifying glass with, like, a 1.32, so I have, like, almost no no tool pressure, um I can see it's not it's not a clean, like, overcut.
00:30:02
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:30:05
Curt
It's kind of like a waga-waga-waga. Like, it looks like... like ah like a tuning fork, like if you hit something and went, um so I wonder if that that might be it, honestly.
00:30:10
jspec_engineering
Yeah. ah think it might just be PID tuning on your on your rotary.
00:30:16
Curt
And to be fair, when I got this rotary, like they sent me, like it was a hassle just to get it functioning. So oh I should ring, um I might shake Sal's tree and be like, do I have the most update tuning?
00:30:25
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:30:27
Curt
And they might be like, oh, you have to do this. It's not tuned. to Be like, oh, there's the problem. Because on three axes, cutting this
00:30:32
jspec_engineering
yeah i think it's a tuning issue yeah no problem yeah i think it's just think it's prd tuning on your rotary yeah before you with it back it up
00:30:33
Curt
Cutting this exact same same shape on three axis, perfect. And I can do it like three times a speed. No issues. Dead perfect. So it's something.
00:30:43
Curt
Tuning, yeah. I might have to fuck with that a little bit more. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah.
00:30:52
Curt
Yeah, no, we're not going to do that. That doesn't sound like very much funny. Of course. Of course.
00:30:55
jspec_engineering
Write down your PIDs and then go mess with it.
00:30:57
Curt
Yeah, that's a good idea, actually. I should do, yeah.
00:31:00
jspec_engineering
Yeah, I think i think it's PID issue because what you're describing is it's tuning fork.
00:31:02
Curt
You might be right.
00:31:06
jspec_engineering
PIDs are not right when it's changing direction.
00:31:09
Curt
What I honestly could do is I could just, I could write a program where it just rotates, like, let's say, I could put a little dial indicator in between the, like, ah the T slots of the of the fourth and just rotate it like, two degrees and let it crash into the dial indicator and then, like, film it.
00:31:10
jspec_engineering
It's causing it to lag.
00:31:20
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:31:22
Curt
So i got, like, high def or, like, high speed video and just watch and see if the dial indicator goes, like, but but but but but or if it goes, like, because it should just go bunk.
00:31:26
jspec_engineering
Yeah, see what's happening.
00:31:30
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Because when you say it's it's a bit laggy on your when you manually jog, that's fine. Kind of to be expected. But yeah, write a program that just and see what happens.
00:31:41
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. That's good point.
00:31:46
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Yeah, that I want to make a note to follow up next week.
00:31:51
Curt
Yeah.
00:31:52
jspec_engineering
um Because I'm very curious.
00:31:55
Curt
Well, and, and Justin reached out. He's like, dude, do you want me to be the rubber ducky? like I don't know you have like rubber ducky debugging. um And I was like, I might take you up on it, but yeah, thanks for being my rubber duck. Cause that's, that's sometimes all you need.
00:32:05
jspec_engineering
yeah
00:32:05
Curt
Like, that's a good point.
00:32:06
jspec_engineering
those Yeah, you just need someone to bounce the idea off of.
00:32:07
Curt
Yeah. No. And that's, yeah.
00:32:10
jspec_engineering
Well, speaking that... eating
00:32:11
Curt
Shoot.
00:32:12
jspec_engineering
speaking of that I got chatting to one of our Patreons. I got an email from him this week. Bart, one of the new Patreons, who also bought an anchor point that's waiting for FedEx to pick it up.
00:32:20
Curt
um Yeah, yeah.
00:32:24
jspec_engineering
He was having an issue with his parts where he would machine the holes and then everything would be perfect, takes it out the vase it's all skewed. So I ended up chatting to him, asking him how much he's taking off each side of things and like you know all the just general troubleshoot, just bouncing it off someone else.
00:32:41
jspec_engineering
Turns out he was over-typing his vase.
00:32:42
Curt
Oh really?
00:32:42
jspec_engineering
So he was milling all the holes and then when he loosens the vast, all the holes in the wrong place because the park was bowing.
00:32:48
Curt
Oh, okay. Yeah. yeah
00:32:50
jspec_engineering
Yeah. but You don't want it to fly out, but yeah, it only has to be as tight as it needs to be.
00:32:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:55
jspec_engineering
But yeah, it helps to be able to bounce stuff off of off of people.
00:32:59
Curt
No doubt. No doubt. Yeah.
00:33:01
jspec_engineering
Yeah, it helps a lot.
00:33:02
Curt
And I mean...
00:33:03
jspec_engineering
So I know we had a email chain back and forth for a bit, trying to troubleshoot that that he was asking about value added tax on the anchor
Business Logistics and Support
00:33:12
jspec_engineering
points. like, the best way to claim your value added tax is to pay the duties when it comes in and claim that invoice.
00:33:18
jspec_engineering
That's what I do, because duties and taxes will be payable to the Belgian government. So then you can claim it back because if I prepay it, then you can't claim it back.
00:33:26
Curt
Ah, OK. Yeah, yeah, I get that.
00:33:28
jspec_engineering
yeah So I sense this is roughly what you're going to pay in Zars.
00:33:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:33
jspec_engineering
um And then he at least has an idea of what he's going to be having to pay when it comes in.
00:33:38
Curt
Hmm. OK.
00:33:39
jspec_engineering
But yeah, that's that'll be leaving tomorrow morning. Well, when he's listening, it'll have left already.
00:33:43
Curt
Ooh, the future. The future.
00:33:45
jspec_engineering
Yes, it got packed up today. And then, yeah, had to go buy our fittings quickly because I was out of pneumatics.
00:33:51
Curt
Cool.
00:33:52
jspec_engineering
So I quickly shot off this morning and bought pneumatics.
00:33:54
Curt
Did you get one of the sparkly purples?
00:33:54
jspec_engineering
And then the pneumatics. He got young got one of the batch one purples.
00:33:59
Curt
Ooh, I do like that purple.
00:34:01
jspec_engineering
There are very few of them left.
00:34:03
Curt
Ooh.
00:34:05
jspec_engineering
There are three or four.
00:34:08
Curt
Nice.
00:34:08
jspec_engineering
of them left yeah um yeah they're very pretty but yeah speaking of our patreons our patreons make the wheels on the podcast go round and round um special shout outs to jade from benchmark 20 luke from fantastic aj from subtract manufacturing and 17 other companies ej from nocturnal welding jason s and the aussie machinist and yes that number aj does go up every week
00:34:09
Curt
Nice. Good.
00:34:35
jspec_engineering
So I forget what number we're on, but it goes up every week.
00:34:37
Curt
Wow, he's adding businesses.
00:34:38
jspec_engineering
ah He's actually got a video coming out. Well, he's got a video coming about how to start a business, ah specifically in context to you subtract.
00:34:42
Curt
Of course he does. Of course.
00:34:46
Curt
I'm going to trust anybody about how to start a business, i'm going to trust AJ.
00:34:51
jspec_engineering
Yeah, no, he's done it a lot. um Yeah, don't know if you watched the toolpath videos with him.
00:34:56
Curt
ah No, not yet. No, no, no.
00:34:58
jspec_engineering
So, okay, so Toolpath went to do a customer success story there. They did like a five-minute video or so.
00:35:03
Curt
Cool.
00:35:04
jspec_engineering
I was chatting to Ben from Toolpath. It went viral, like 75,000 views, their first proper viral video.
00:35:08
Curt
Oh, sick. Oh, sick.
00:35:09
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Then there's an hour and 30-minute shop tour with AJ.
00:35:15
Curt
and hey Oh, cool. I'll watch that. That sounds interesting.
00:35:17
jspec_engineering
Yeah, there's like a good five or six minutes them talking about the the ba anchor point.
00:35:23
Curt
Oh, nice. Yeah. I love that.
00:35:24
jspec_engineering
Because they both have anchor points.
00:35:26
Curt
Yeah, totally.
00:35:26
jspec_engineering
luck so like And they yeah they're discussing the the value of the cheap pallets. So that was very, very entertaining to watch.
00:35:35
Curt
Okay, we'll
00:35:36
jspec_engineering
And good that du awesome that it's it's hopping off. Speaking of toolpath, there's a code in the doobly-doo down below.
00:35:44
Curt
walk.
00:35:44
jspec_engineering
if anyone wants to sign up, I am using toolpath, and it's full of magic.
00:35:48
Curt
Ooh.
00:35:49
jspec_engineering
So little bit of setup to get it working reliably. But I am very much seeing the value.
00:35:56
Curt
Oh, yeah?
00:35:57
jspec_engineering
Like I didn't think I would, but I'm very much seeing the value. My motor mounts for the but a
Machining Programming and Upgrades
00:36:04
jspec_engineering
good way, the motor adapters, yeah, those are getting machined with toolpath.
00:36:04
Curt
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nice.
00:36:08
jspec_engineering
They've already been programmed.
00:36:09
Curt
Nice.
00:36:09
jspec_engineering
It took me literally a minute. I pushed the files toolpath. It gave me back. The only thing I had to do was add the thread milling cycles the chamfering. It doesn't do super well with those two things currently with my exact config. But everything else was fine.
00:36:24
Curt
Right.
00:36:25
jspec_engineering
And then I went in and adjusted the, the quoting side of things. So it's now part of my workflow, at least for the next few months. And, uh, We'll see how how it works. But I machined a feat for my brother-in-law's TV with it.
00:36:39
jspec_engineering
that worked super well. Did some dumb shit like surfacing with my roughing end mill because has a corner radius. And I didn't tell it it couldn't, so it surfaced with it.
00:36:47
Curt
Oh, that's cool.
00:36:48
jspec_engineering
But yeah, I don't mind. Not my TV feat. ah Yeah, I've been throwing odds and ends at it. I made some fixtures with it the other day. Where I've designed the fixture, just don't feel like clicking all the things.
00:36:58
jspec_engineering
Toolpath. And comes back a minute later, and it's programmed.
00:37:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:03
jspec_engineering
And pretty interesting, pretty well, like some interesting strategies, but I get why they're doing it the way they're doing it.
00:37:09
Curt
Yeah. Oh, that's cool.
00:37:11
jspec_engineering
no It's very interesting. So I thought I would just promote it a bit. And there's a discounting code thing in the doobly-doo as well.
00:37:19
Curt
Oh, and we'll also i we'll also link AJ's video and the toolpath video in in the link for people that people that don't like to click.
00:37:24
jspec_engineering
Yes. Oh, did you? Okay, cool. Yeah.
00:37:26
Curt
Yeah, because that'd be me. Like, i'd be like, oh, is it, can I just hyperlink It's like, yay, I can go watch it. so
00:37:32
jspec_engineering
We'll make Danica hop a link it
00:37:34
Curt
I'll find it.
00:37:34
jspec_engineering
It'll be great fun.
00:37:34
Curt
I'll help.
00:37:38
jspec_engineering
Nah, make her look for it.
00:37:38
Curt
That's awesome. I'm glad to... That's what I want to automate. like I honestly don't do enough programming to really...
00:37:42
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:37:43
Curt
I program once every quarter.
00:37:44
jspec_engineering
Well, yeah.
00:37:45
Curt
um But still, getting rid of the dum-dum work is... That's what I want robots to do.
00:37:50
jspec_engineering
That's the thing.
00:37:50
Curt
Like, yeah.
00:37:51
jspec_engineering
Yeah, want to make a fixture or something you just I want make soft jaws, just throw it at toolpath.
00:37:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:56
jspec_engineering
I don't know I did actually, I made soft jaws. don't know if actually threw it at toolpath or not. But yeah, just let the robot do it and let it to get you 95% of the way there and then you just tweak the things you don't like because you're too lazy to set up your cut configs properly and it uses the wrong tools.
00:38:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:11
Curt
Oh,
00:38:12
jspec_engineering
It prioritizes my 45 length of cut 12 millimeter endmill in my hydraulic instead of the 35 length of cuts in the ER32.
00:38:19
Curt
ah okay.
00:38:20
jspec_engineering
Like, tool 12 lives in the machine. Tool 112 is like the special occasion birthdays cutter.
00:38:26
Curt
Right. Right.
00:38:28
jspec_engineering
Yeah, it's like I don't want to risk my hydraulic holder any more than necessary. But that tool holder and that tool combo is insane.
00:38:36
Curt
Hmm.
00:38:37
jspec_engineering
I was adaptiving something with it the other and it's just the bonkers. I like it.
00:38:41
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:42
jspec_engineering
Let it go. But anyway, I've got stuff coming from laser cutting this week. Hopefully. I sent off all the stuff for the good ways you are.
00:38:51
Curt
Oh, nice. Okay. Okay.
00:38:52
jspec_engineering
Yes. And I came up with a way that I don't have to worry about the screen exploding as soon as I commissioned the machine.
00:38:58
Curt
how what's How's that?
00:39:01
jspec_engineering
I made a little thingy for the keyboard and then the screen with like a million holes for VESA mount.
00:39:06
Curt
Oh, sick. Okay.
00:39:07
jspec_engineering
So no matter what size the screen is, a screen will line up within a few mils of one of those holes. So like I took the VESA pattern and just up and down like 10 millimeter spacing.
00:39:16
Curt
and Sick. Okay.
00:39:17
jspec_engineering
So there's a shitload of options. um So I'm getting that in and then I'm going to go tick.
00:39:19
Curt
Nice.
00:39:21
jspec_engineering
There's two spots that just need to be ticked. And then I don't think I'm going powder coat because the lead time and the minimum block cost is annoying. So I think I'm just going to hit with the Rust-Oleum hammered.
00:39:32
Curt
Okay. Yeah.
00:39:33
jspec_engineering
The black hammered finish. Hit it with that. And then the stainless steel button panels are ordered as well. I don't how I'm going to laser mark those.
00:39:40
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:42
jspec_engineering
Because they don't fit in my fiber laser. And I don't want to do one section at a time. So I'm thinking CO2 laser with molybdenum disulfide, which sucks.
00:39:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:51
jspec_engineering
But it's a one-off. I will suck the fuck up and just let the laser laser it for me.
00:39:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:56
jspec_engineering
So yeah, that's done. And then what else did I order from them? I ordered the bracket to mount all the VFDs because this machine has got five VFDs and two servo drives in it.
00:40:07
Curt
That's a
00:40:08
jspec_engineering
Because every, every accessories on a VFD, like coolant pump, chip conveyor, um spindle motor fan, and ah hydraulics, all on separate VFDs.
00:40:22
jspec_engineering
um So had to get a, had to get a UI thing cut. um trying to think what else, I ordered something else. But yeah, anyway, ordered a bunch of fun laser cuttings.
00:40:29
Curt
Nice, nice.
00:40:30
jspec_engineering
So I'm waiting for them to email me and say it's ready for collection. But yeah, the UI design took me quite a while to get exactly how I want.
00:40:38
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:40:38
jspec_engineering
But I ended up stealing the UI from the ENCO. So it's got a coolant disable and a spindle disable button. So you can pause, disable the spindle and the coolant, remove chips or whatever, turn them back on, hit unpause, and it carries on.
00:40:52
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. it's,
00:40:52
jspec_engineering
um And then i just had to add some stuff for the collets and the chip conveyors.
00:40:57
Curt
but
00:40:57
jspec_engineering
so So I've got evil plans afoot. um For the Euler, what was it that was going to put on there? Euler and hydraulic pump, I think.
00:41:09
jspec_engineering
So on allmar all my retrofits, the e-stop disables fucking everything. Like, regardless of where the line extension is, booted or not, the e-stop kills all the signals. But I want the Euler and the, think it's the hydraulics. Yeah, hydraulics. I want those to stay on if you hit the e-stop.
00:41:26
Curt
Okay.
00:41:27
jspec_engineering
because the last thing you want is hit the e-stop and your collar chuck releases. Like, fucking, it kind of defeats the purpose.
00:41:30
Curt
Right.
00:41:33
jspec_engineering
And the oiler, every time you power the oiler on, it pumps oil. So I've got a little timer thing.
00:41:37
Curt
Okay.
00:41:39
jspec_engineering
So what'll happen is when it gets the go signal, it'll turn on. And if you e-stop, it'll have a timer that'll count down. Once it gets to like eight minutes whatever, then it'll turn the power off to those two VFDs, or to the VFD and the oiler.
00:41:51
Curt
Okay.
00:41:54
jspec_engineering
And if in those eight minutes you release the e-stop again, it resets that counter and keeps the power on to them.
00:41:59
Curt
Okay, nice, yeah.
00:42:00
jspec_engineering
So that I'm not, yeah, every time I release the e-stop, not having oiler pump more freaking oil through the machine.
00:42:05
Curt
Totally, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:42:07
jspec_engineering
So, yeah, trying to get all these little bits and bobs to make the retrofit as nice as possible.
00:42:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:12
jspec_engineering
Like, it's super fancy. um But, yeah, like, it's lots of retrofits of fun.
00:42:18
Curt
Well, and it's good to mimic the UI of your other machine, because then you don't have to remember, remember like it's already in the in the muscles to be like, oh yeah, totally, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:42:19
jspec_engineering
let's put it Let's put it that way.
00:42:23
jspec_engineering
Yes.
00:42:26
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Less brain power.
00:42:29
jspec_engineering
I even use the same keyboard and mouse because I've got a little keyboard with a touch
CNC Control Preferences and Incidents
00:42:33
jspec_engineering
dingus and it actually works really well for like layer that always tend to edit hand in a code because they're gang lades.
00:42:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:40
jspec_engineering
But there's a little bit of hand editing and then you don't touch the freaking keyboards. You don't need a mouse.
00:42:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:44
jspec_engineering
Like you can do it with the little touch thing. Every all the major functions are done with hard buttons anyway, like cycle start and stop and all that.
00:42:49
Curt
Yep.
00:42:52
jspec_engineering
I remember there was talk of you building a UI at some point for the hard engine.
00:42:55
Curt
Yep. Yep. There was talk about it.
00:42:57
jspec_engineering
Yep, all the buttons are there. All the things are there. You just never got around to it
00:43:01
Curt
I haven't. No, i that's the problem is it works. And same thing.
00:43:04
jspec_engineering
It works.
00:43:05
Curt
it the i i I have a keyboard just like you, the fancy keyboard.
00:43:05
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:43:09
Curt
I bought a really nice one. It's backlit and everything. It sucks for Linux.
00:43:12
jspec_engineering
Yes.
00:43:13
Curt
For some reason, it doesn't communicate well with it. Even USB, it sucks.
00:43:16
jspec_engineering
Oh.
00:43:16
Curt
Everything sucks about them. So I have two of them, brand new, sitting in boxes downstairs because I was going to put them on both my Linux machines. They don't work with shit.
00:43:22
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:43:23
Curt
So I was like, fuck. So yeah, so I positioned the mouse.
00:43:24
jspec_engineering
That's annoying. Do you even have an MPG on your machine?
00:43:27
Curt
Nope. Nope. I don't have anything.
00:43:29
jspec_engineering
Oh, wow.
00:43:30
Curt
Nope.
00:43:31
jspec_engineering
Ugh.
00:43:31
Curt
But I don't, I don't, I don't, like, it it homes perfectly.
00:43:32
jspec_engineering
Ugh, the thought of setting it by pushing buttons. you it's Fair enough.
00:43:36
Curt
So I literally just open code, put the parts in there, and then I hit the space bar to run the new thing of code. And that's only only button to hit on it. So I'm like, well, I don't really need any more.
00:43:47
Curt
Like, it just, it works. So I would love, I would love to have an MPG.
00:43:48
jspec_engineering
Yeah, fair enough. But yeah, it works.
00:43:50
Curt
I would love to have a billion other things on it. But i was like, it,
00:43:54
jspec_engineering
Yeah, but it's and nothing more temporary, nothing more permanent than temporary solution.
00:43:58
Curt
the payout for building that will be like years of time before I see reap the benefits. So i'm like, I'll just leave it be.
00:44:04
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Yeah, no, no, 100%. I assume you have a big e-stop somewhere.
00:44:09
Curt
Of course, of course I have an e-stop on it.
00:44:10
jspec_engineering
That's at least a physical button. Yeah, okay. As long as that's a physical button, that's fine.
00:44:15
Curt
Yes. Who wouldn't run without an e-stop?
00:44:18
jspec_engineering
Ah, geez, Kurt. Escape works in Linux CNC.
00:44:19
Curt
Escape is so fast on Linux.
00:44:21
jspec_engineering
Or F1.
00:44:22
Curt
Oh, F1 too.
00:44:23
jspec_engineering
a F2, all my keyboards in the workshop, I've ripped the F2 keys out of.
00:44:27
Curt
OK, what does F2 do? Yeah,
00:44:29
jspec_engineering
Because F2 is power down the fucking machine. you know I've got on the side, you've got e-stop, power on, manual mode, MP, all the fucking modes.
00:44:37
Curt
yeah, yeah. ah
00:44:39
jspec_engineering
So F3 is manual mode, if five is MDR mode. id yamo
00:44:43
Curt
OK.
00:44:44
jspec_engineering
hit F2, the machine fucking powers off and the loses its position. So they got fucking ripped out of my keyboards. Happened one too many times. Fucking yeet! Rip them out of the bear pliers, throw them away, they're not going back in ever.
00:44:56
Curt
Yeah, I just, yeah, I don't know.
00:44:58
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:44:59
Curt
That's one thing I love about Linux is you just hit escape and it's is like, it's paused, but it's instantaneous.
00:44:59
jspec_engineering
Yeah, F1 is...
00:45:05
Curt
it's just like, boom, everything stops and machine, it knows where it is still.
00:45:07
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Kills everything.
00:45:09
Curt
Like, it's amazing. It's so and it's so nice.
00:45:10
jspec_engineering
Yes.
00:45:12
Curt
that's That's my e-stop.
00:45:13
jspec_engineering
I use that on a regular basis.
00:45:14
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, totally. Oh,
00:45:15
jspec_engineering
I've got a big one that I pushed through the panel at one point because I had a MDF panel and I crashed.
00:45:19
Curt
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:45:21
jspec_engineering
I was doing a job I shouldn't have been doing for someone I didn't want to do it for. And something happened and I blew a tunnel or something. I'm done for the day and I hit the e-stop straight through the piece of
00:45:32
Curt
oh
00:45:34
jspec_engineering
logged out, turned off the power and fucked off inside. I was like, nah, I'm done with this for the day. So now there's a reinforcement thing there because i cut the reinforcement on the laser and then put the thing back the next morning. And yeah, nah, I had enough that day. Fuck.
00:45:47
jspec_engineering
like I'm selective of what lathe work I do. I quoted myself out of some work today. just gave them fuck-off pricing.
00:45:54
Curt
they don't come back then
00:45:56
jspec_engineering
Because, ah yeah, if they do, it'll be fine. But yeah, fucking right now I'm running out of lathe capacity quite severely.
00:46:03
Curt
Yeah,
00:46:04
jspec_engineering
every Everyone wants lathe bits and bobs and my lathe leaving in like 10 days or so.
00:46:10
Curt
I was to say for the man with two lathes, you don't have a lot of lathe capacity. Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:14
jspec_engineering
ah Yeah, it's goingnna be it's going to be a bit of a challenge. But yeah, hopefully every hopefully everything lines up as intended.
Lathe Capacity and Performance Enhancements
00:46:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:22
jspec_engineering
The biggest question right now is the chuck adapter. because I got an email from AliExpress.com saying that some funny business was going on there. So I requested a refund.
00:46:34
jspec_engineering
But apparently it's still been shipped. So we will see.
00:46:36
Curt
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:46:38
jspec_engineering
Worst case, collared truck will be working. I'll have to run the collared truck for the interim.
00:46:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:42
jspec_engineering
Most of what I do can run on the collared truck. and And then i need to buy a quick change tool post still. I need to build the materials here for the the gang blocks.
00:46:53
jspec_engineering
I've designed, somewhat designed gang blocks already. so I've got material for two gang blocks. We'll be up and running relatively quickly, hopefully.
00:47:02
Curt
Nice. That's nice.
00:47:04
jspec_engineering
yeah Lots of hope, ever hopeful.
00:47:06
Curt
opium Yeah, and
00:47:07
jspec_engineering
I still need to figure out what encoder is on the machine, on the spindle. I assume it's a for Nook encoder of some sorts. I need to go and sniff the signals to see if I can use it with LinuxCNC or whether I'm going to have to shove a different encoder on there.
00:47:22
jspec_engineering
I have two different encoders kicking around, so it's not a problem if I have to replace it. It's just to get to it's a bit of a mission.
00:47:29
Curt
yeah yeah, I get that.
00:47:30
jspec_engineering
It's like in the worst spot of the machine.
00:47:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:33
jspec_engineering
So I'll have to see.
00:47:35
Curt
so
00:47:36
jspec_engineering
Or I'll just put a fucking disk with some slots.
00:47:39
Curt
That's proper. yeah
00:47:41
jspec_engineering
Dude, it freaking works.
00:47:43
Curt
It's It is amazing what you can get away with for that kind of stuff.
00:47:43
jspec_engineering
I threaded 30 parts today and it works. I got 36 pulses per revolution. Works astonishingly well.
00:47:54
Curt
like but I mean, that almost helps because then you have you have like inertia helping you and as you're averaging so many pulses faster.
00:47:55
jspec_engineering
And I'm not threading slowly. I'm threading at 1,750 Oh, yeah. works. Yeah.
00:48:03
jspec_engineering
Oh, yes.
00:48:04
Curt
Yeah, it's
00:48:06
jspec_engineering
Did you apply Lin curve to your spindle
00:48:06
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:11
jspec_engineering
oh yes did you apply lin curve to your spopium
00:48:16
Curt
ah Lin curve. No, I don't believe so.
00:48:19
jspec_engineering
Linear curve.
00:48:20
Curt
No.
00:48:20
jspec_engineering
So what you do in your custom HAL file, not your HAL file, you have a lookup table effectively of, say, eight points.
00:48:28
Curt
OK, OK.
00:48:28
jspec_engineering
I made mine eight points yesterday. Zero RPM equals zero and you add into the table what actual is using your encoder's feedback. then you spin your spindle app to those different rps and you add into the table what the actual opium is using your encoder feedback close line extension, reopen it, and then it compensates.
00:48:52
Curt
Oh, sick.
00:48:52
jspec_engineering
So it gives you within a really close band. It battles on the low end on mine because it's running at like 20 hertz.
00:49:01
Curt
Right.
00:49:01
jspec_engineering
So it really battles.
00:49:02
Curt
Right.
00:49:03
jspec_engineering
But the higher speeds, it's spot on, like within 5 or 10 RPM.
00:49:06
Curt
Huh.
00:49:08
jspec_engineering
So yeah, I did it long ago when I initially did Bertha. And then I changed the motors and never redid it, or changed the spindle motor, never bothered redoing it.
00:49:14
Curt
Mm.
00:49:16
jspec_engineering
And then while I was messing with the VFD, I had to redo it because everything above 1,600 RPM was 2,000.
00:49:24
Curt
yeah
00:49:25
jspec_engineering
So yeah i had to go and actually add it in or your surface speed just doesn't work.
00:49:29
Curt
and I mean, my work is up.
00:49:31
jspec_engineering
Not that I use surface speed much, but yeah.
00:49:33
Curt
That's it. And my work's tiny, so always usually pinned. But yeah.
00:49:38
jspec_engineering
Maximum rip-em.
00:49:38
Curt
Maximum rippings, yeah.
00:49:39
jspec_engineering
ah Yeah, so I've been doing a bit more steel as of late because the machine's going to someone who's going to be running steel and he keeps bringing parts to test. So we've been running constant surface speed and feed per rev, not fixed RPM and feed per minute, which is how I've run the machine for four years because the original spindle motor was a two-pole and had fuck-all torque.
00:50:01
jspec_engineering
So ah didn't but it couldn't spin up and down fast enough for constant surface speed. But with the four pole motor and the new VFD, it actually spins up pretty well.
00:50:12
jspec_engineering
So we've been running that. And it turns out if you don't run your insert at like 4,000 surface foot, they last really well.
00:50:19
Curt
Yeah, I bet.
00:50:21
jspec_engineering
So I was actually setting the meters per minute to within the range. So I think the inserts can do 160. I was setting it to 150. And we were around 155. Like on the high end, because by the time we get to 100 diameter, we're running out of RPM.
00:50:35
Curt
Right.
00:50:36
jspec_engineering
um And yeah, I turned a piece of D2 for the the spindle nose. No real problems. Had to drop my feed per rev down because I ran out of torque. But then you just drop that down. dropped it to 0.5 and cuts.
00:50:48
jspec_engineering
didn Didn't even kill an insert. I was quite impressed.
00:50:50
Curt
Nice. Yeah.
00:50:51
jspec_engineering
because that's always been my biggest thing is just murdering inserts because i'm running at like a thousand rpm when i should be at like 320.
00:50:58
Curt
Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah.
00:51:02
jspec_engineering
but yeah i mean i don't don't turn a shitload so the only problem is it's boring as hell to watch because now obviously your um your rpm is lower which means your feed per rev is the same but slower and we're roughing something and it just goes faster and faster and faster i'm like yeah was awesome
00:51:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:19
jspec_engineering
But yeah, like ah we're so we're we're doing some grooving stuff and um my plan was just groove it. And then no, machine does not have the torque. So then we did a roughing cycle and the machine freaking did a bang up job.
00:51:29
jspec_engineering
Like it just ruffed out these things in like freaking 30 seconds and then nice slow finish pass, part's done. Like super, super easy.
00:51:36
Curt
Yeah,
00:51:37
jspec_engineering
Like if you work within the machine's constraints, it will work really, really well.
00:51:42
Curt
That was my biggest change in machining too when I went from programming it. like i Now I program everything in feed per rev and SFM. just like Wherever the feed lands, that's where it's going to be. If it's feeding at 20.86 inches a minute, like okay, that's where you land.
00:51:56
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:51:57
Curt
for your yeah that's That's what you're happy with.
00:51:57
jspec_engineering
Doesn't matter.
00:51:59
Curt
and ah Weirdly enough, the tools are happier.
00:52:00
jspec_engineering
Yeah. I need to actually... I need to reach out to Zane from Skok Machine Tools because he sent me a Kyocera boring bar and some inserts to test and oh my word, they freaking work.
00:52:11
Curt
Nice.
00:52:12
jspec_engineering
Breaks the chip beautifully, but I am running it a little fast. 0.75 feet per rev.
00:52:19
Curt
Yeah. yeah so
00:52:20
jspec_engineering
I'm literally threading with the freaking thing. Yeah.
00:52:24
Curt
In aluminum? or
00:52:26
jspec_engineering
but It works. And yeah, aluminum.
00:52:27
Curt
Yeah, you get away with a lot.
00:52:28
jspec_engineering
It freaking rips. um So I actually want to get the the recommended feeds and speeds and see what he says. um But yeah, i'm full fucking send.
00:52:37
Curt
Nice.
00:52:38
jspec_engineering
So I'm busy running that, testing it now. um He sent me a bunch inserts to test. ill just used the bar he gave me to test. So pretty freaking happy with that. Might have to buy some Kiosara inserts for going forward running aluminum because it actually breaks a chip because I've battled with that for a long time.
00:52:52
Curt
Nice. Yeah, I remember you always having an issue with that.
00:52:55
jspec_engineering
But your yeah.
00:52:56
Curt
yeah, yeah.
00:52:59
jspec_engineering
So what?
00:52:59
Curt
Cool, man.
00:52:59
jspec_engineering
ah Oh, I saw that pen, dude. o my word.
00:53:02
Curt
Oh, I i will...
Enhancements and Inventory Challenges
00:53:04
Curt
I better call it the but guy, because i didn't I didn't do it. It was a third party, um someone that modded my pen, and they had it DLC-coded, and and it ah it turned out freaking sick.
00:53:14
jspec_engineering
It looked really good.
00:53:17
Curt
ah So I will find the dude. Okay. make sure not play a RCO underscore customs on Instagram. So he DLC'd one of my, actually he's Zerk blasted. I'm, I think, sorry, he does. I collaborated with the post. I haven't really read much into it, but um it looks like he's Zerk blasted the whole pen first and then DLC coded it. And it looks so good. It makes me want to do DLC coding.
00:53:36
Curt
Yeah. I've,
00:53:37
jspec_engineering
Yeah, no, it looked really, really good.
00:53:39
Curt
I've had a ton of customers reach out and say like, oh, i'm going to get this DLC code. And i'm like oh cool. Send me pictures when you get it done. And this is like one of the first guys that sent me a picture of, or I guess it's the modder that did it. I think that's how I'm reading it anyways. I'm not the customer yet.
00:53:49
Curt
But anyways, yeah, it looks looks sick.
00:53:50
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:53:51
Curt
i want to I want to do more DLC coding. and
00:53:53
jspec_engineering
No, it really... It looked amazing.
00:53:55
Curt
I'd like to do some of the like the Grimsmo. What's not the DLC? The brown stuff. The um ah other, not TILN.
00:54:00
jspec_engineering
Uh...
00:54:04
Curt
Whatever. Whatever.
00:54:05
jspec_engineering
Um, yeah, the the other tool coatings.
00:54:08
Curt
The other tool coatings. Yeah, i'd like I'd love to do some of that, but yeah, I gotta price it out and find a, see if someone does it.
00:54:10
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:54:14
Curt
I know there's one company in Canada that for sure does it because i can access the same company Grimso does, but I imagine he's sending them a few more, few more pens than I will be.
00:54:16
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:54:22
Curt
But I mean, dollars are dollars.
00:54:23
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:54:24
Curt
Like, as long as I pay, they're probably not going to care.
00:54:27
jspec_engineering
Yeah, they should be, yeah, should be pretty happy.
00:54:29
Curt
I'd like to do that. That'd be fun.
00:54:30
jspec_engineering
Um, yeah, no, dude, that'll be some sweet, uh, options for the pens.
00:54:36
Curt
be cool. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.
00:54:38
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:54:38
Curt
So,
00:54:38
jspec_engineering
I wonder what of the lead time on that would be.
00:54:39
Curt
i
00:54:40
jspec_engineering
I assume not not quick.
00:54:42
Curt
Like, I don't know if they can th throw it in with tooling or if they do, I imagine they do a custom run. ah i don't know. I have no, don't know the cost. I don't know anything about it.
00:54:49
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
00:54:50
Curt
So I don't, I don't think it's heinous, but, uh, I don't know.
00:54:53
jspec_engineering
Okay. Something for the for the future Kurt to worry about.
00:54:58
Curt
Exactly. Yeah. Night night shift. Kurt can figure that out. Yeah, exactly.
00:55:02
jspec_engineering
There we go.
00:55:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:03
jspec_engineering
A notch of Kurt.
00:55:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:05
jspec_engineering
Oh, geez.
00:55:05
Curt
Yeah. So, yeah.
00:55:07
jspec_engineering
um Oh, yes. Do you remember those collets that are picked up for like $2.50 a piece?
00:55:13
Curt
Oh, the big rubber ones?
00:55:14
jspec_engineering
Like, I think two weeks ago or so. Yeah, the rubber flex collets.
00:55:16
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah.
00:55:18
jspec_engineering
Dude, those things are made of magic.
00:55:20
Curt
They are, yeah.
00:55:22
jspec_engineering
They grip so fucking well.
00:55:24
Curt
Awesome.
00:55:24
jspec_engineering
I'm running one in Bertha now. Running 30, because you order aluminum, 30 mil aluminum.
00:55:29
Curt
Right.
00:55:30
jspec_engineering
It comes anywhere from 29.95 to 30.4. thirty point four So I got one of those that I got was 32 to 30. And fuck does that thing grip. Holy cow.
00:55:39
Curt
Nice.
00:55:40
jspec_engineering
Grips amazingly. yeah busy Busy using it for this run of parts now. And yeah, I like it.
00:55:45
Curt
Do
00:55:46
jspec_engineering
I can't find them locally though. Like if I search them, I cannot find a local supplier. So I'm assuming they were brought in from England, because it's an English patent on those.
00:55:53
Curt
well
00:55:56
Curt
you have enough to use for most your sizes?
00:55:57
jspec_engineering
But yeah, they're freaking. Yeah, pretty much all learn all the common stuff I do.
00:56:02
Curt
Nice, okay.
00:56:04
jspec_engineering
So like yeah not too bad. And every time I got a tool save, i'll still look for more comments to see if any new stuff's coming.
00:56:09
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:56:10
jspec_engineering
Like Jamie and his secondhand tool buying endeavors.
00:56:12
Curt
Okay. yeah oh
00:56:15
jspec_engineering
No, that place is a problem. I have an eccentric press I bought from there. The freaking customer for the Torx Bits. I don't think they'll listen to the podcast. We'll find out if they do. Hello. um I'm like, hey hey, can I have another order, please? Because I've fucking bought an eccentric press. I kind of need another order to justify that.
00:56:32
jspec_engineering
um Went there today. They have 2,000 in stock. I delivered $1,000 and they misplaced them.
00:56:39
Curt
oh
00:56:40
jspec_engineering
Delivered another $1,000 and they're like, oh, now we have $2,000 in the stock. I'm like, what the fuck? fuck But anyway, they're going to place an order for another $1,000 this week.
00:56:45
Curt
Oh, no.
00:56:48
jspec_engineering
They want to keep $2,000 in stock and they've got some going out this week, so there will be another order.
00:56:53
Curt
Oh, okay. Well, that worked out.
00:56:54
jspec_engineering
But I mean, we we're halfway through the month. They've been promising an order since the last week of last month.
00:57:00
Curt
Well, maybe they'll misplace another thousand. Then, problem solved. Okay.
00:57:04
jspec_engineering
I'll go help them misplace them. Then it's
Production Timelines and Customer Relations
00:57:07
jspec_engineering
a turnaround. I can deliver really quickly. But yeah, like I said, it's them it's three weeks turnaround on this because it's give or take a week to get material.
00:57:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:16
jspec_engineering
I'm not going to go drive and fetch the material. ah To have it delivered, it's usually three to four working days. and Then it's blank the material, machine the material. That's two days. to Yeah, two days.
00:57:28
jspec_engineering
And then it's to heat treat, which can take up to a week. And then it comes back and I've got a machine, the mating components. So yeah, I'm like, I'm not going to promise you you can have it in a week and then be running around like a loon. I'd rather promise you three weeks and deliver in two.
00:57:44
Curt
Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah. That's the better way.
00:57:46
jspec_engineering
And also like machine capacity is becoming a freaking issue because I still have customer begging me to do the stupid impeller parts.
00:57:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:55
jspec_engineering
And I'm trying politely to get the message across that he needs to take his shit and fuck off.
00:58:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:00
jspec_engineering
Like, I nearly actually went to his customer today because I was halfway there. like, should I just drive there until the Soakies are fucking doers and he can fuck off? And was like, let me not cause too much shit.
00:58:12
jspec_engineering
Because they're no, make the samples. We'll see if we can get an increase in price. I'm like, fuck you. You've already told us categorically there will not be an increase price. Take your shit. Fuck off.
00:58:21
Curt
yeah
00:58:21
jspec_engineering
You're wasting my time. Like, you want me to spend two or three days making these pots? Nothing is going to come of them. I'm going to invoice my customer. He's going to pay me for it, but he's going to be out of pocket for it He's wasting his fucking time.
00:58:32
Curt
well and it's well it's probably very ah very unlikely for them to be like yes we'll pay you 10 times more than like where you'd be in economically viable to make them so it's like yeah it might be just
00:58:32
jspec_engineering
So it also took them five weeks to get me material. So quite frankly, they can wait five more fucking weeks for their pots.
00:58:48
jspec_engineering
we We went in just over double the price.
00:58:51
Curt
Okay.
00:58:52
jspec_engineering
And even that, the the margins are skinny. And we're like, if you want us to do this, this is the setup cost. No, they're not willing to pay setup cost. They're not willing to increase the price. that i'm like, fuck off and die.
00:59:02
Curt
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:59:03
jspec_engineering
But sorry, get fucked.
00:59:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:05
jspec_engineering
I'm not going to be on the hook because I know what's going to happen. We're going send 100 parts. And they're like, oh, one of them, we dropped one. It's got a ding. We're rejecting the whole batch.
00:59:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:14
jspec_engineering
And then it's going to be on a stream machine and ah fuck them. Not interested. Like there's not enough money in the world for to make me deal with those people.
00:59:21
Curt
Yeah, I agree.
00:59:23
jspec_engineering
Like Carl's actually been doing work for the same for my customer Henry um for these clowns.
00:59:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:29
jspec_engineering
And he reckons everything. They don't have a QC department. They have a fault finding department.
00:59:33
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:59:34
jspec_engineering
You'll drop stuff off there and they will find a way to make sure they only have to pay you on 90 days. Because if they if there's defects, then you get pushed to 90 days. So they they will find a way to push you to 90 days.
00:59:46
jspec_engineering
And I'm like, no, I don't want to be involved with people like that.
00:59:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:49
Curt
No. Yeah, i agree. 100%. hundred percent
00:59:51
jspec_engineering
ah So who are you communicating with, Kurt?
00:59:53
Curt
cool uh that is it's like just in the world if you just send me an email like if if i email somebody and they send me an email be like hey uh we're working on this we'll get back to you in a week's time i'm like cool that's fine with me i'm trying to i'm trying to buy one of those little like uh tang tango tango tango flow like box turning tool inserts or box turning tool tools
01:00:09
jspec_engineering
yeah
01:00:17
jspec_engineering
Oh, yes, yes. Yeah.
01:00:19
Curt
I was like, I should make my own because then could use my own custom inserts instead their inserts. And I was no, no, I'm just going to buy one of theirs. You know, it's only like a thousand bucks, whatever. just buy it, order it. So anyways, sent them like an email, but they got back to me pretty much instantly.
01:00:30
Curt
I'm like, cool. Followed up with a bunch of questions. It's like radio silence. I'm like, okay, like it doesn't, it doesn't inspire confidence for me to be like, here's a thousand dollars when it's just like, you can't answer. Like I was asked for very simple questions and just like ghost.
01:00:43
jspec_engineering
yeah
01:00:43
Curt
And this what happened last time. Just ghost me. And was like, Okay. Like I'm going, like, I'm trying to give you money and just nothing. And I'll give them a little bit.
01:00:50
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
01:00:51
Curt
Like there's a, it's a weekend here. I mean, it's not Thanksgiving. It's Thanksgiving here, but it's not Thanksgiving there. They're in the UK.
01:00:56
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
01:00:57
Curt
So Sunday,
01:00:57
jspec_engineering
When is Canadian Thanksgiving? Did we miss sending out a thing?
Personal Updates and Custom Projects
01:01:01
Curt
the Sunday.
01:01:01
Curt
Yeah. So we already, we already had our turkey.
01:01:02
jspec_engineering
Sunday, go down and I was like, shit, we forgot. We didn't send a thing out for the Lone Machinist listeners. like, eh, it's Canadian Thanksgiving. No one cares.
01:01:09
Curt
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the proper time to have Thanksgiving. Anyways, but yeah, this is like, so i just I just don't like companies that just, like I want to give you money.
01:01:14
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
01:01:19
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
01:01:20
Curt
All you have to do is be like, hey, tell you what, it's going to take me like a week to figure this out. I'll get back you then like, no sweat, no issue at all. Just when you use like zero communication, it's like, well, now I don't really want to send you money. So was like, well, now I want to build it myself just out of spite.
01:01:32
Curt
I'll give more time. I'm not going to throw them under the bus quite yet. Maybe they got think got something going on, but. When it happens twice in a row, it's kind of like, oh, I remember this from last time I dealt with you.
01:01:39
jspec_engineering
Yeah, but come on. Yeah.
01:01:42
Curt
It's like, and they're probably looking at me like, oh, this guy's not super interested.
01:01:44
jspec_engineering
Yeah,
01:01:45
Curt
It's like, yeah, okay, fair enough. Like small companies become big companies.
01:01:48
jspec_engineering
that's... Incorrect. Yeah, no, fucking...
01:01:51
Curt
Like I said, and the few Canadian companies that have treated ah treated me well, like i they're my like my material supplier, my tooling supplier.
01:01:53
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Well, I got... Yeah.
01:02:00
Curt
I love them because they treat me like a giant company, even when I place tiny orders.
01:02:02
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
01:02:05
Curt
They're fantastic. I will continue to use them as long as I, yeah, as long as I possibly can, I will use them just because they're nice.
01:02:06
jspec_engineering
That's all you can ask for. Yeah.
01:02:11
Curt
Yeah. Hmm.
01:02:12
jspec_engineering
Yeah. No, 100%. Yeah, actually would reached out today by someone my brother deals with. Because my brother sells fishing stuff, and the fishing and gun shops are somewhat intertwined in this country.
01:02:24
jspec_engineering
So the guy reached and was like, know wants two custom mag bases. So I'm like, oh, cool, for what gun? 43X. I'm like, oh, we don't do Glock 43Xs because...
01:02:35
jspec_engineering
The springs are super inconsistent. You'll take two brand new 43X magazines, put our plus two shoe on both of them. One will work, one won't.
01:02:44
Curt
Yeah. Hmm.
01:02:46
jspec_engineering
Yeah, one will stop the slide back when you run out of ammo and the other won't. It's like, no, yeah it's decorative more than anything else doesn't need to be extra bullets. So gonna make a shallow one for him. that's And that's anodized red is like a gift for someone for two mag base. I'm like, Yeah, like, look, it's not gonna be the normal price.
01:03:01
jspec_engineering
It's gonna be a bit more expensive. It's a one off. He's like, No, that's fine. So I'm like, God, you want to run it through the business? you want VAT number? Not VAT number? Tell me. Price changes a bit. Because if it's a private deal, then private deal gets private deal pricing.
01:03:15
Curt
Nice.
01:03:15
jspec_engineering
but job i need to make one of these
01:03:17
Curt
Ooh, that's, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:20
jspec_engineering
this took a week to make the sample not by me or someone else i need to work out pricing tomorrow for those to make uh some ak muzzle brakes i know there's nothing illegal about making uh muzzle brakes it's not suppressor and even making those
01:03:24
Curt
Okay, I was
01:03:30
Curt
going to say, is that one of those things that you can't talk about in your land, where it's a... ah okay, cool. That's pretty.
01:03:42
Curt
Oh, OK. Nice. It's
01:03:44
jspec_engineering
It's not a legal telecourt.
01:03:46
Curt
a pose. It's pose.
01:03:48
jspec_engineering
Well, my my paperwork is downstairs for competency so that I can get a nine millimeter handgun license.
01:03:54
Curt
Mm, OK, OK.
01:03:56
jspec_engineering
So um the paperwork's being done now so that we can, I can take up competition shooting and develop my own parts.
01:04:03
Curt
Cool. That's cool. Yeah, it looks like a pretty part.
01:04:05
jspec_engineering
Yeah, that's an expensive fucking hobby. Well, my gun guy's like, no, he wants to come past. We need to knock his sight out, make a plate to put an optic. There's a new division in South Africa, and he wants to give it a bash.
01:04:19
jspec_engineering
going to take his current gun, knock the sight out, put an optic on it because it's an optic something like that. like, yeah, you know, the handgun with a four-time scope on it or something stupid. But yeah, it's now an optic friendly.
01:04:30
jspec_engineering
You're not allowed to shoot 40s, so he's going to run. He's not going to switch to 9. He's going to stay with 40s, but run light bullets because there's a weight limit on the bullets, and he's going to run light loads so that it shoots like a 9-mal.
01:04:41
Curt
Oh, cool.
01:04:42
jspec_engineering
And he's going to give it a bash. So it's interesting. There's all sorts of fun stuff going on.
01:04:47
Curt
That's cool. That's cool.
01:04:47
jspec_engineering
And so that's what I want to make muzzle brakes. So we'll see. I mean, it's nothing complicated. It's a fricking hole and a thread. Like the hole isn't even tight tolerance. It's got a millimeter of clearance.
01:04:57
Curt
Yeah, I say gun. Yeah, gun is...
01:04:58
jspec_engineering
Like, and if it is tight, it'll only be tight on the first bullet.
01:04:59
Curt
yeah
01:05:02
Curt
Yeah, ah fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough.
01:05:06
jspec_engineering
But yeah, we were discussing that over the weekend. He gave me the sample. He said, no, please give me a quote. Because this guy took a week to make the sample. He's like, yeah, no. Jamie will turn those out like 10 of them in a day. And I'm like, 100% I will.
01:05:18
Curt
Yeah.
01:05:19
jspec_engineering
And I will not be gentle because I know what they cost. So then I don't be gentle. But yeah, ah I'm planning on building another
Automation and Home Projects
01:05:27
jspec_engineering
CNC machine, Kurt.
01:05:27
Curt
Of course you want. Yeah, it's it's been like a few ah few weeks since we talked about building something. So yeah, what are you what are you building?
01:05:32
jspec_engineering
Exactly. I need ah i need a cross drillimetron.
01:05:35
Curt
Okay, for what?
01:05:38
jspec_engineering
the diesel tubes I make.
01:05:39
Curt
Okay, i will grant you I'll grant you permission here.
01:05:40
jspec_engineering
So currently, yeah, so let let me justify this. So currently, drill press with a little printed jig, I put the thing in and I drill a vent hole.
01:05:49
Curt
Okay.
01:05:49
jspec_engineering
Now I need to drill a vent hole and a little bit further down I need to drill, on opposite side I need to drill a rivet hole. So my thought is, I have two 10,000 RPM 100 watt spindles laying around, going to put a 3.3 mil drill bit in them, offset them like that, put the parts in, it clamps and they go and drill the fucking cross holes.
01:06:06
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That wouldn't be crazy complicated. Yeah. For the amount you do. Like, yeah.
01:06:10
jspec_engineering
No, it's super simple.
01:06:11
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:12
jspec_engineering
Yeah, well, that's the thing. Like, we assemble usually like 300 of them in the morning.
01:06:16
Curt
Right. Yeah.
01:06:16
jspec_engineering
So if I can not have my drill press on the table, I can have it somewhere the fuck else.
01:06:20
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:21
jspec_engineering
And I have a little thing. I just click the thing into, hit go while I assemble the next one, take it out, put the rivets in, and put it done. Like, yeah, trying to make my processes a little bit less stupid.
01:06:28
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:33
jspec_engineering
And those, ah yeah, I think they're 10,000 RPM little 100-watt spindles with an ER8 collet. They're super cute.
01:06:37
Curt
cute well
01:06:39
jspec_engineering
So the biggest tool I can hold is 1.8 and I need a 3.3 drill, but you can buy PCB drills.
01:06:45
Curt
yeah oh nice okay yeah yeah and they're so good i use pcb drills all the time like it's amazing how good they are for the price yeah
01:06:46
jspec_engineering
3.3 drill on a 1.18 shaft.
01:06:51
jspec_engineering
Yeah, so I was buy PCB drills for it. They carb out and you can spin them at 10,000 RPM and not have problem. It's not good. Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:03
jspec_engineering
Yeah, I use a 0.7 in the Emco, 0.75. I drilled a couple hundred parts today with one.
01:07:06
Curt
yep
01:07:09
jspec_engineering
I use 1.6 twos, 2.5s, and threes in the LK, depending on the jobs. Like, I need only short depth, and I use those.
01:07:20
jspec_engineering
They drill better than a freaking high speed.
01:07:22
Curt
oh yeah and they're oh and they're rigid yeah they're good little tools and they're like buck like they're nothing ah yeah yeah yeah they're
01:07:23
jspec_engineering
Also, you run them at 12,000 RPM, and they don't care.
01:07:27
jspec_engineering
Yeah. They don't? Yeah. You buy a box of them for, like, five bucks. It's freaking great.
01:07:34
jspec_engineering
I think I've got like 50 of the 0.75s in stock.
01:07:38
Curt
yeah Yeah, I buy a gang of them too.
01:07:39
jspec_engineering
Just in case, don't know, sneeze and break 10 of them at a time.
01:07:42
Curt
Yeah, I've pushed... I have a, whatever, a 1.7, a 2.55, a 2.4. I have a gang of... I've pushed through hundreds of titanium parts, and they're chugging along. I haven't replaced any of them.
01:07:53
jspec_engineering
They work. Yeah.
01:07:54
Curt
They work so well for what they cost. It's incredible.
01:07:56
jspec_engineering
No, they work really, really well.
01:07:57
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:58
jspec_engineering
I know, for what they cost, it's like, it's stupid. They are cheap as beans.
01:08:01
Curt
Yeah. Volumes of scale. Mm-hmm.
01:08:03
jspec_engineering
They're dark. Yeah, 100%. Like PCBs, they make a lot of PCBs around the world.
01:08:09
Curt
yeah
01:08:09
jspec_engineering
So what is in your Google box? Oh, that's why my phone was ka-dunk-a-dunking.
01:08:14
Curt
ah My Google box.
01:08:16
jspec_engineering
I just got mentioned in story.
01:08:17
Curt
Ooh.
01:08:18
jspec_engineering
You
01:08:19
Curt
My Google box is a little bit of home security stuff because I redid my whole network here and my provider gave me...
01:08:27
jspec_engineering
live in Canada.
01:08:28
Curt
What? Oh, yeah, I know.
01:08:30
jspec_engineering
You live in Canada.
01:08:31
Curt
It's basically basically to make sure that bears don't eat my trash.
01:08:32
jspec_engineering
every Everyone's friendly.
01:08:34
Curt
No, there's no bears here. um Just cougars walking down my street. andm picking up their children from school um no like i got i got a bunch of free like security stuff because i like we upgraded our internet package and he's like oh it comes to like a home security system i was like i don't care like use home assistant like i'm just literally gonna throw it all in a box so anyways was kind of pissed around see how much that i can interface with my current system a bunch of and nc viewer stuff g-code stuff all associated with the fourth axis chasing it down and that is pretty much all the excitement let me see you what else anything fun
01:08:51
jspec_engineering
yeah
01:09:07
Curt
Yeah, that's literally, it's all networking, boring stuff, and some Subaru-related stuff. I working on my wife's car, but how about you?
01:09:15
jspec_engineering
i For some reason, there's a Sheen tab open on my phone.
01:09:19
Curt
Ooh.
01:09:20
jspec_engineering
no idea why uh micro 100 uh quick change tool posts uh was looking at flexible couplings those came in today we don't discuss wordle because i've kind of given up i've a streak of one i keep forgetting to do it
01:09:23
Curt
Hmm.
01:09:35
Curt
Hmm.
01:09:37
jspec_engineering
looking at timers and trying to find resin for my resin printer because the ship got turned around with some bullshit.
01:09:45
Curt
Hmm.
01:09:46
jspec_engineering
So the resin I like is not going to be in stock till end of November. And I have a print job due end of the week that needs like two kilos of resin.
01:09:52
Curt
Hmm.
01:09:54
jspec_engineering
So had to buy Creality resin, not any cubic resin.
01:09:58
Curt
Ah. Oh.
01:10:01
jspec_engineering
Yeah, fun times.
01:10:03
Curt
Fun times.
01:10:04
jspec_engineering
Yeah, so where can people find ah your things and stuff?
01:10:07
Curt
My things and stuff can be found on confoundedmachine.com and hopefully in the next couple months we can start reopening lottery
Online Presence and Engagement
01:10:15
Curt
and whatnot. I know people, I get, ah I'm getting progressively more and more emails.
01:10:18
Curt
So I'm trying to get that fixed by ah bunch of different means.
01:10:21
jspec_engineering
Yeah.
01:10:22
Curt
how about, how about you? Where can people find your wares?
01:10:28
jspec_engineering
You can find me at jspec underscore engineering on Instagram, where you can see the day-to-day happenings of the shop, which have been a bit light as of the last bit. Been a bit burnt out-y, so I haven't been posting too much.
01:10:40
jspec_engineering
You can find all other fancy stuff at jspeceng.com, including the Anchor Point and the shirts. It was brought to my attention over the weekend that this lovely face mall shirt is not a jspec shirt. It's actually a lone machinist's shirt.
01:10:52
jspec_engineering
So it is perpetually available. I thought it was part of one of the shirt batches for Jspec engineering, but it is not. Danica is working on some new shirts. Yeah, we're going to talk about that in the after show because I think it's going to annoy Kurt.
01:11:06
jspec_engineering
um the plan she has. She's doing it to annoy me, and I think it'll annoy Kurt as well.
01:11:10
Curt
Perfect.
01:11:11
jspec_engineering
So yeah, if you're a patron, you get the after show. And there's also some bonus content on theloanemachinists.com, where you can see Kurt and I, what happens to we get disconnected. There's also a companion guide to get some context on the funny words I like to use.
01:11:26
jspec_engineering
But yeah, that about sums up where you can find all the things.
01:11:29
Curt
sick uh today's the holidays like said i'm gonna go uh pick some carrots because i think gonna be decently warm out today before it has like a foot of snow on those carrots and i have to dig them out which i do every year because i always push it to wait too late and uh yeah then tomorrow it's back to the grind making pens so hopefully finish this batch before halloween that's my goal um to get it all done before halloween so uh yeah how about you other than other than this
01:11:29
jspec_engineering
What are you up to today, Kurt?
01:11:46
jspec_engineering
Okay. Well, you got 17 days, 18 days.
01:11:54
Curt
Yeah, yeah, I just, and I forget how long things take. Packing orders and just all the dumb stuff and just dealing all the tariff nonsense.
01:12:00
jspec_engineering
I literally signed in today when we went to go look at that late.
01:12:00
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:05
jspec_engineering
I signed in with the 11th. I thought it was the 11th.
01:12:07
Curt
Oh, nice. Yeah, you're you're losing time.
01:12:09
jspec_engineering
Yeah. Like I signed in two days ago. Yeah, no, like, ah yeah, the whole, I ran whole weekend. That's why.
01:12:14
Curt
ah Fair, yeah.
01:12:15
jspec_engineering
that production ran the entire weekend.
01:12:15
Curt
and message Yeah, that messes stuff up.
01:12:18
jspec_engineering
oh wow.
01:12:20
Curt
Cool, cool.
01:12:20
jspec_engineering
Yeah, no, it definitely does. But yeah, I'm going to go ahead and have a nice shower because I went and walked in the field, so there's probably ticks all over me. Go have a hot shower because it's just rained, so the ticks are out in fucking full force.
01:12:36
jspec_engineering
And then, yeah, tomorrow morning, early morning, got Bertha to run, Emco to run, well, I've got to fix the Emco. need to figure out why it's giving that alarm on the drive. And tie the alarm of the drive into LinuxCNC.
01:12:48
Curt
That's a good idea. that's... ah
01:12:49
jspec_engineering
because yet again, i haven't done that. um So I need to tie that in. And then got to finish off on making 100 landing gear clips for some drones. I've got to finish those on another like 60 up two and threes to do.
01:13:02
jspec_engineering
But at least two and three happen simultaneously. So you just hit go and it chooses.
01:13:07
Curt
Nice.
01:13:07
jspec_engineering
It's pretty easy. But yeah, anyway, thank you everybody for listening. um If you saw our faces, because you're watching on either Zencaster like AJ or YouTube, ah you can also find us on other podcast players. And if you're a podcast player and you want to see what Kurt's got going on around on the background, which I would recommend, um you can check us out on YouTube or if your name's AJ, Zencaster.
01:13:33
jspec_engineering
But yeah, thank you everybody for for listening and we will see you next week.
01:13:36
Curt
Take care all.