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Ep. 29: The Art of Getting Screwed
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Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as Site work, not blowing up tools, and Dialing in the 4th axis.
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Transcript
Introduction & Social Media Issues
00:00:47
jamie peacock
round two fight how are you doing this morning guys
00:00:52
Curt
I'm doing fantastic. How are you doing, man?
00:00:54
jamie peacock
good thanks so we had some technical issues there so we just restarted the recording uh hence the fun intro so yeah as i was saying in the previous recording uh the instagram post uh story seems to be back but with only one interaction so i don't know really weird i'm assuming someone is reporting
00:01:07
Curt
Oh, weird. Okay. So they...
00:01:12
jamie peacock
my goings ons because I've had posts go missing in the past or stories go missing in the past where I've gone to my archive and they're not there.
Production Challenges & Updates
00:01:19
jamie peacock
ah What I did notice, it was stories around when I had my nephews in the workshop and then I would be ranting and raving.
00:01:20
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:01:26
Curt
Oh.
00:01:28
jamie peacock
And then I'm assuming someone got offended on my nephew's behalf for the language I was using and reported it.
00:01:33
Curt
Of course, yeah. A busybody.
00:01:34
jamie peacock
Yeah. So as far as I'm concerned, they can go find a very tall bridge with no water under it and take the fast way down.
00:01:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:42
jamie peacock
but anyway, how are you doing today?
00:01:46
Curt
I'm doing pretty good. Yeah, I'm doing pretty good. ah I don't know. Production went well. Got my shop empty of things. So now I have to build more things. So I continue to, you know, continue on with this cycle and talk to you and keep my house lit with light heat and whatnot.
00:02:00
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:02:02
Curt
So
00:02:02
jamie peacock
It is nice to have light and heat.
Anodizing Problems & Solutions
00:02:04
jamie peacock
But yeah, I was watching your stories this week. you are got it to work, which is which is nice.
00:02:05
Curt
yeah, it's enjoyable.
00:02:10
Curt
Oh, so pumped.
00:02:10
jamie peacock
We'll get into that one a bit later on.
00:02:12
Curt
Yeah, so pumped. And yeah, you look like you had a bit of a cluster.
00:02:14
jamie peacock
But yeah.
00:02:16
Curt
So I'm curious to see how that played out.
00:02:17
jamie peacock
had a delightful week.
00:02:20
Curt
ah
00:02:20
jamie peacock
Yeah. I sent off 22 bodies to anodizing for the anchor point.
00:02:26
Curt
And how many came back?
00:02:26
jamie peacock
And they came back. all Well, no, actually sorry, Allah 19 came back, I rejected three, they were gonna read i was like, Okay, well, this is what it is. I'm gonna reject these ones rework them on to see what the tolerance shift is when they do a rework.
00:02:41
jamie peacock
And then I came, came back and was like, Oh, let me let me see how they've moved in anodized because now I can actually accurately measure it.
00:02:41
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:02:50
jamie peacock
Put the ball mark in on like, hang on. I'm like 99.99% sure that these things were on size. I'm pretty sure we discussed it that they were all within like five microns across the whole freaking range.
00:03:02
Curt
Yeah, yeah, i remember that.
00:03:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:03:04
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:03:04
jamie peacock
So I mark the one and i'm like, weird. It's comma one five of a millimeter oversize. I'm like, okay, kind of strange. Let me grab another one. And I'm like, is my ball mark out?
00:03:16
jamie peacock
So I check the calibration on the calibration ring. It's okay. So I grab a pin. take the pin and go, whee, and throw it, and it goes in the hole. So I'm like, okay.
00:03:26
Curt
know.
00:03:28
jamie peacock
So I grabbed the pin and I went to all 19 of them that I have, and all 19 of them are like that. So I proceeded to take the ball mark and measure the back balls for the Lang studs. Same thing, comma, one five over where they were when they left.
00:03:41
jamie peacock
So I phoned the guys and I'm like, ah please, can you explain what has happened here? And they can't explain it. One thing I did notice when I was there is that the the racking pins some of them looked like they had been stripped I was trying to figure out why because there's no reason for the pins to be stripped I supplied news new pins with this batch so I think at some point these things got stripped and
00:03:55
Curt
Okay.
00:04:03
Curt
Okay.
00:04:08
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:04:09
jamie peacock
I think they put them in the day or two after I dropped them off. The color wasn't right and they stripped them and reanodized them and did until they QC because I've been dealing with QC guy and as far as he knows, they were racked once and anodized once.
00:04:23
Curt
Right, right, right, right.
00:04:24
jamie peacock
He checked the cameras, but he obviously only checked the cameras when he knew they ran it. I think they stripped them, they ran them and then stripped them and then reran them. And now they're fancy paperweights.
00:04:34
Curt
Oh, shit.
00:04:35
jamie peacock
Well, at least until I make custom pins.
00:04:36
Curt
That sucks.
00:04:37
jamie peacock
But yeah, for now, fancy paperweights, which is very annoying considering they were meant to be on sale today.
00:04:45
Curt
Yeah, is there like, is there any saving the body, like other than making the pin?
00:04:49
jamie peacock
Yes. No, no, i can I can salvage the bodies. I can't salvage the bodies right now. um
00:04:54
Curt
Okay.
00:04:55
jamie peacock
I'm better off re-machining bodies and then having them not electro-polish them and having them only anodize them. So I was having them electropolish just to blend any machining marks.
00:05:02
Curt
Right, okay.
00:05:07
jamie peacock
And now it's going to go there and be anodized as is because the machining marks are fine.
Optimizing Machine Cycles
00:05:12
jamie peacock
Like but you can see there's toolpaths, but there's not like this chatter or anything like that. So I'm just going to have them anodized and my holes can get smaller and then I can just use a bigger press to press pins in.
00:05:22
Curt
Right, yeah, safer way for sure, yeah.
00:05:23
jamie peacock
Yeah. So yeah yeah, I mean, I did consider leaving everything like half a millimeter smaller. same process and then remachining it when it comes back. But that is, in my opinion, a tad on the risky side.
00:05:36
Curt
Well, and yeah, it's ah it's going...
00:05:37
jamie peacock
Because any mishandling you're going to ding the body like,
00:05:41
Curt
And it's going in a machine. like Like you said, as long as the machining marks on it look nice, like no one no one's going to care.
00:05:45
jamie peacock
yeah. Yeah, 100%.
00:05:47
Curt
like I'm going to be happy. If I buy a piece that's going to go in my machine and it looks like it was made on a machine and the machining marks look pretty, I'd be like yeah but and like, yeah, go nuts.
00:05:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:05:53
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, like this.
00:05:54
Curt
If it's all chowdery and chattery, no, but like...
00:05:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, but there's yeah there's literally ah the finishing passes on certain things are done in such a way that they look pretty.
00:06:04
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:06:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, there's some dumb things I do to make it look really pretty.
00:06:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:08
jamie peacock
um So i was a little bit annoyed because that has put us behind schedule. Like my um my supplier for aluminium has a five-day wait or wait on cutting at the moment.
Tooling Improvements & Quality Maintenance
00:06:19
Curt
Yeah. ah
00:06:19
jamie peacock
So yeah, it's a little bit annoying. but is what it is Everything else is done for the batch, so almost done for the batch. So I just need to get the material for the bodies this week and spend another three days machining bodies.
00:06:33
jamie peacock
Because it's a literally three days worth of production.
00:06:36
Curt
Is the body machining, like, is it fairly is fairly dialed? Like, is it just basically pure machine time?
00:06:40
jamie peacock
Oh yeah, it's pretty dark.
00:06:41
Curt
OK.
00:06:41
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, pure machine time. I only have one pallet for it though, is little annoying. um But I think I ran them, i was keeping the machine running like 90% of the day. So machine stops, I'll swap out the...
00:06:52
Curt
Wow, OK.
00:06:55
jamie peacock
because I'm making an anchor point on an anchor point. So all the op ones will run through those, run one at a time through the vase, then they get stacked, and then they get bolted onto a fixture, dropped in the point, and I hit go.
00:06:58
Curt
Right, of course. Hmm.
00:07:06
jamie peacock
And now my process for that is it comes off, unbolt it, blow off excess coolant, put it on the shelf, load another one, put it in the machine, hit go, and then I do the little bit of cleaning and hand deburring that was still needing to be done. I've got a way around that now.
00:07:19
jamie peacock
um while the machine's running. So like my downtime, I think the OPT2 cycle is 47 minutes and the machine stops for less than two.
00:07:29
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:07:30
jamie peacock
So machine stops, I'm there, I swap the parts out.
00:07:30
Curt
Okay.
00:07:33
jamie peacock
Worst case, I tell it to notify me when the part's done and then we've stopped for a whole five minutes before it's running again.
00:07:40
Curt
Yeah. Oh, I mean, that's good, I guess.
00:07:41
jamie peacock
And I'm going to be picking up a hydraulic holder to try to a little bit better finish on the walls. Worst case, I rub it with scotch brough pad and it looks fine.
00:07:52
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:53
jamie peacock
That is also the option. I can scotch brough the sides before it goes to anodize. Like I used to hand sand parts before anodized them.
00:08:00
Curt
Right, yeah. No, it might be better than, yeah, the electro polishing. Especially if, exactly, if they're like, oh we'll just redo this.
00:08:04
jamie peacock
yeah
00:08:06
Curt
It's not going to matter. It's like, oh, no, now you just ruined everything.
00:08:08
jamie peacock
No, they have strict instructions never to rework my stuff. And I think someone reworked it and didn't tell anybody.
00:08:16
Curt
Yeah, yeah, that sounds the part.
00:08:16
jamie peacock
Which is a little bit, yeah, a little bit infuriating, but it is what it is. like I'm not, I'm going to convince them to credit me for this batch of anno and they can do the next two batches for free. But I know I'm not going to, I know I'm not going to get my money out of them for the material and the machining.
00:08:32
jamie peacock
So I'm not even going to try.
00:08:33
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, no, I think it's that's fairly...
00:08:34
jamie peacock
They're going to tell me to find another anodizer. And that was the response from a lot of the guys on Insta was just find another anodizer.
00:08:37
Curt
Yeah, see it.
00:08:41
jamie peacock
All anodizers are shit. These guys are the least shit. That's why I work with them.
00:08:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:46
jamie peacock
Like shit happens.
00:08:46
Curt
Yeah, that's kind of what I've found.
00:08:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. Like shit happens.
00:08:50
Curt
yeah Yeah, well, that's...
00:08:50
jamie peacock
At least they're trying to figure out why and prevent it in future. So I'll be like, it's all you can ask for.
00:09:00
Curt
Well, and it's such a low, it's such a low priced like procedure and it's usually on finished parts. I get it. Like I get it why they don't
Streamlining Production Processes
00:09:07
Curt
they're like, whatever, you're only paying us, you know, a hundred bucks for this batch.
00:09:07
jamie peacock
yeah dude wait and wait yeah not even um yeah 22 parts so on this batch put this thing into uh dollars on this batch i paid one dollar 89 per part
00:09:09
Curt
So it's like, yeah, so.
00:09:23
Curt
That's yeah, that's nuts.
00:09:24
jamie peacock
them to scrap it for me like yeah it's silly it's silly cheap and you can understand like so i item went there they were like listen can you come through we got a few parts we're not sure about the finish on i went through i'm like okay here is the finished part these are the a surfaces everything else i don't i literally don't give a about so we're going to change the way it's being racked well to prevent some runs that we're having on the front of the on the top of the part and
00:09:24
Curt
Like.
00:09:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:49
jamie peacock
The holes they're using, drawing I'm going to give them a drawing. This is how it needs to be racked to prevent every possible issue that I can foresee with anodizing. Short of anodizing myself, that's the best I can do.
00:09:57
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:09:59
jamie peacock
And I don't want to be in the business of running anodize for a living.
00:10:04
Curt
Yeah, yeah, no, exactly.
00:10:05
jamie peacock
No.
00:10:06
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:06
jamie peacock
It's really, it's not fun. And the consistency won't be there. So yeah, right now I have paperweights, which will probably get made into mooring points and harbors, just because then the langston size doesn't actually matter, um and the step pins will solve that problem.
00:10:19
Curt
Right.
00:10:21
Curt
Right, right, right, right.
00:10:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, so.
00:10:23
Curt
Bummer.
00:10:24
jamie peacock
But yeah, we'll get on to high precision turning at some point, because I have a plan to use silver steel, rough the pins, send them for heat treat, and then hard turn them to final diameter, and then use an angle grinder to cut them off of the bar stock.
00:10:40
jamie peacock
So i do a piece of bar stock with a pin on each end. That way when a hard turn, I assume it's concentric because I'm doing it one setting and then grind it off, grind the back then press them in.
00:10:51
Curt
Okay, okay.
00:10:52
jamie peacock
A little annoying, but I mean, it is what it is.
00:10:56
Curt
Yeah, I guess.
00:10:56
jamie peacock
It's a work, it's a work round for now.
00:10:57
Curt
so let's Yeah.
00:10:58
jamie peacock
Like there's not much I can do. i ah definitely want to keep the standard pitch and size across all anchor points. So
International Shipping & Customer Expectations
00:11:07
jamie peacock
yeah, that's where the tricky bit comes in.
00:11:08
Curt
Yeah, totally.
00:11:12
jamie peacock
But yeah, so, yeah, a bit of a bummer, but anyway, on a positive note, how was your screwing around this week?
00:11:12
Curt
Oh, bummer.
00:11:19
Curt
Am I screwing around? ah conversely to your start of the week, whatever it went fantastically well. Um, I, I had like 19 different things I was going to change with the process. And I was like, you know what? I have to be a good, a good little boy and change one thing at a time.
00:11:34
Curt
I ended up actually changing three things at once, just not even thinking about it. Cause I'm like, Oh, let's put in a new tool holder and I'll use my existing tool.
00:11:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:40
Curt
Um, and I'll run it. And then i realized I had slightly changed one of the, the finishing profile. I had changed a tool holder, which is the main thing I wanted to change. And then I also added a kind of a roughing stage in there.
00:11:48
jamie peacock
yeah
00:11:50
Curt
And i was like, I shouldn't added all these at once. um But it worked out. um I machined every single blank I had on one tool, which normally was blowing up after like 10 or 12 screws. um So I machined, I don't like 40 or 50 screws um without issue.
00:12:00
jamie peacock
and
00:12:04
jamie peacock
yeah all three
00:12:05
Curt
So it's one of those things work either the, which I think it's, I honestly think it's, I, Yeah, i don't I don't think all three are playing together, honestly. I think the roughing stage I added, like it comes in with a 1.32 to rough out.
00:12:16
Curt
It's a T8's torque pocket in the top of my screws for the on unfamiliar.
00:12:20
jamie peacock
friggin tiny
CNC Techniques & Machining Methods
00:12:22
Curt
It's fairly small. um So I come in with 1.32 to, after I drill it all out, I come in with a 1.32 to rough it out, which honestly doesn't take much because those little points on a Torx are fairly tiny. So even a 1.32 diameter tool can't really get far into there.
00:12:23
jamie peacock
yeah
00:12:36
jamie peacock
yeah
00:12:37
Curt
um But I thought maybe if it just relieved enough of it, it would ah it would help. And then I ah spiral down with a 15 thou end mill, which is like a 0.3, 0.35 millimeter. um
00:12:46
jamie peacock
yeah as you say spiral that's just following the the torques pattern okay using a ramp or using a contour okay using a contour with a ramp yeah okay yeah yeah just ramps
00:12:47
Curt
And I just spiral all the way down.
00:12:51
Curt
Yeah, following the profile on the inside and just goes down. um Using a ramp, yeah. ah
00:12:59
Curt
A contour with a ramp, yeah. it's It's constant engagement. Like there's no there's no Zed step. It's just the Z is slowly moving down.
00:13:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:06
Curt
And it only takes, it's taking a thou shit, like a thou depth to cut every pass around. Um, and it's basically, it's making dust and as fast as I can push it.
00:13:11
jamie peacock
OK, so making dust.
00:13:15
Curt
Cause you tiny tools, you don't get a lot of sva SFM out of them.
00:13:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:19
Curt
Um, so it takes a while, but it's been reliable. So I can't bitch.
00:13:22
jamie peacock
What RPM would you but you running at?
00:13:23
Curt
Um,
00:13:26
Curt
16,000 just because it's going to run like for eight hours.
00:13:27
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:13:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:30
Curt
So I could probably run it at like my meal can do 18,000 and you can probably spike up to 20,000 if you want to. But i was like, I'll save the
Tool Wear & Production Efficiency
00:13:38
Curt
bearings. I'll just, I'll run an 80% and just let it be happier.
00:13:38
jamie peacock
does Does your machine have a chiller?
00:13:42
Curt
No, it doesn't.
00:13:43
jamie peacock
Oh, okay, that makes a difference.
00:13:44
Curt
Nope. So, yeah, I don't want and want to cook them.
00:13:45
jamie peacock
Mine does. Yeah.
00:13:47
Curt
And I don't care.
00:13:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no, 100%.
00:13:48
Curt
Like, if it if it lasts, or if it runs 20%, like, if it runs, instead of running for an hour to do a pallet of screws, it runs for an hour and 15 minutes. Like, I don't care.
00:13:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, 100%.
00:13:57
Curt
Like, I'm probably not going to be here when it's running.
00:13:57
jamie peacock
Doesn't matter. Yeah.
00:13:58
Curt
Yeah, so.
00:13:59
jamie peacock
No, 100%.
00:14:01
Curt
Yeah, so anyways, was super pleased to get that done.
00:14:02
jamie peacock
but Yeah.
00:14:04
Curt
So, but.
00:14:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, at least you got this got that somewhat dialed.
00:14:08
Curt
Yeah, well, I have no screws. So that's problem. is like, I can't build the next batch of pens.
00:14:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, you have to.
00:14:12
Curt
And like, I have to get it done. And I get order more from the States, but I just, I don't want to. Like, I just don't want to order more screws.
00:14:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, no.
00:14:19
Curt
And mine are better now.
00:14:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, speaking of...
00:14:19
Curt
Like, the unfortunate part is mine mine are better than the ones I have made on like a nice Swiss with live tooling.
00:14:20
jamie peacock
Oh, there we go.
00:14:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:25
Curt
Like, his screws he makes me are really nice. But this is tie connector screws. I'm very pleased with the screws.
00:14:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:31
Curt
They're beautiful, but they're not as nice because... That's not his business. Like, I mean, his business is making screws. They should be nicer, quite honestly.
00:14:37
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:14:39
Curt
um But they're just, they're made for, they're made at a price, I guess. Like, it just, they're not as nice.
00:14:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, they're made to a price. No, 100%.
00:14:45
Curt
Yeah, like the Torx, like he drills it bigger. So when he mills out the Torx, like that you don't have as much engagement on the driver. Whereas like the ones I made have full engagement on the driver.
00:14:51
jamie peacock
Okay. You want proper.
00:14:55
Curt
So like you can crank them as hard as you want and you'll break the thread and the drive will be perfect.
00:15:00
jamie peacock
Okay, yeah, fair enough.
00:15:00
Curt
um Whereas his, i'll break the
Personal Workflow & Tool Management
00:15:02
Curt
I'll break the drive before I break the thread. anyway.
00:15:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, speaking of talk screws, I ordered some from from the UK on Wednesday afternoon. They said they'd be on Friday. They were not.
00:15:05
Curt
Net picky.
00:15:15
jamie peacock
Well, they were. Technically, they were. They were in the country on Friday. Then UPS happened.
00:15:21
Curt
Uh-oh.
00:15:21
jamie peacock
UPS like to hold your parcel until day nine and then send you an invoice, hoping you don't pay and they can charge you storage fees. But anyway, I got my invoice from them today. 30% duty on freaking screws.
00:15:35
jamie peacock
I'm assuming it's because we make them locally.
00:15:35
Curt
Oh,
00:15:37
jamie peacock
Good luck buying a Torx screw in South Africa.
00:15:40
jamie peacock
Good luck! I challenge anybody in South Africa to find me where I can buy a Torx countersink screw.
00:15:40
Curt
ah yeah.
00:15:42
Curt
Hmm.
00:15:46
jamie peacock
Because you cannot. I have tried. I've been told, no, it's too special. So anyway, i buy them from... from the from the uk from accu um some smart illiterates ordered 50 screws so i'm making 20 things they use two screws each i'll just order 50 screws 40 i've got 10 spares uh turns out the thing uses four screws so i had half as many screws as i needed so i ordered 400 screws from them on wednesday and then got bent over sideways because the shipping from them is
00:16:08
Curt
Uh
00:16:14
Curt
oh.
00:16:20
jamie peacock
just on $60. So it was $60 worth of screws $60 shipping, and then
Workplace Anecdotes & Community Insights
00:16:24
jamie peacock
$60 import duties.
00:16:24
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, like, it was a rough and they arrived tomorrow.
00:16:27
Curt
yeah
00:16:31
jamie peacock
So then I can go deliver that job finished.
00:16:31
Curt
ah
00:16:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was it was very, very rough. But I mean, yeah I haven't been sharing much on Instagram because I've been polishing molds all day. um And not really meant to share the mold stuff I'm doing. So
00:16:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:48
jamie peacock
it ran fine lots of sand yeah quite a bit of sanding i probably spent like four hours today sanding them six molds so not too bad fingers and my shoulders are sore but six hours you know six molds yeah i've got uh two more cavities coming and'm waiting for material those are 400 by 600 millimeters yeah those are the ones that are going to run all night yeah they're running through the night
00:16:50
Curt
Oh, yeah?
00:16:53
Curt
Hmm.
00:16:56
Curt
Ooh. Oh. OK, six molds. That's not bad. Yeah. Yeah. OK.
00:17:11
Curt
OK. Big boys.
00:17:16
Curt
Gotcha.
00:17:16
jamie peacock
So yeah, waiting for that material to arrive and then waiting for Tufnel to arrive. They're going to set up with with the vacuum chuck and run through all that stuff in one file sweep. Because I need the the vacuum chuck to actually do that that job.
00:17:30
jamie peacock
But that's all got to be done by the end of the month. So waiting on my aluminum supplier. They're also delivering the last bits and bobs for the anchor points. And then I think I might just run those like through the night quickly get the the backers and the toe clamps done.
00:17:42
jamie peacock
So that I'm not waiting on any on anything really for the anchor point.
00:17:48
Curt
Gotcha.
00:17:49
jamie peacock
Because yeah, then well, then it's just bodies then as soon as I'm done with the tuft and whatnot, I can run bodies or if I can get material for the bodies quickly enough, I can slip it in front of the queue.
00:17:49
Curt
Yeah, that sense.
00:17:58
jamie peacock
But I don't think I'm going to be that lucky.
00:18:01
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:04
jamie peacock
But anyway, yeah, I'm waiting on cutters as well, coming from China.
00:18:04
Curt
Oh.
00:18:07
jamie peacock
Long reach 1mm ball noses. They should be arriving shortly.
00:18:10
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:18:12
jamie peacock
ah
00:18:12
Curt
the work? Oh, OK. for the mold worker
00:18:15
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, for the big moulds, there's a 1mm radius, because Roger. Oh, 0.5 radius. don't know. It was a sharp corner, but he knows better than that.
00:18:25
jamie peacock
So I've got some ball noses coming in, so I can just surface those little things. So everything gets surfaced with 4mm, and that'll get surfaced with a Much more than one more. I might be able to use a six millimeter ball nose on this job.
00:18:36
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:18:37
jamie peacock
going to see because that'll cut cycle time significantly.
Problem-Solving & Process Optimization
00:18:41
jamie peacock
Although at this point I've charged for the cycle time. um But yeah um I'm supplying polished molds because it's easier than convincing Fusion to do what I want. It's easier to just sand the bloody mold.
00:18:52
Curt
yeah yeah yeah
00:18:54
jamie peacock
ah job It really isn't too bad. I hit it with some 600 grit, then I hit it with 1,500 grits, and then I bought a rubber buffing compound wheel block thing that you give it a rub with, and it gives a nice smooth finish.
00:19:07
jamie peacock
If they want shinier than that, well, they can sand it.
00:19:08
Curt
Hmm.
00:19:10
Curt
Hmm.
00:19:11
jamie peacock
like it's all nicely blended and because i did have a little bit of inconsistency i noticed um because i i increased my step over and then i was noticing there were some sections where it's you can't feel it but you can see it and it looks like it might have just been a following arrow over the curve
00:19:14
Curt
Well, I guess...
00:19:27
Curt
Hmm. Hmm.
00:19:31
jamie peacock
Because it'll be it'll be good.
00:19:32
Curt
Hmm.
00:19:33
jamie peacock
It'll be the same, same, same. You can see it's a little bit higher in one section, little bit lower another. So I know if it's got to do with how Fusion's putting out the points, or if it's just the machine being the the machine.
00:19:46
Curt
Are you running like a cycle 832 or whatever?
00:19:46
jamie peacock
Oof.
00:19:50
jamie peacock
No.
00:19:51
Curt
Okay. I wonder if that's it.
00:19:52
jamie peacock
I wasn't, because I've tried fighting with that for like all of 10 minutes and then gave up.
00:19:57
Curt
Oh, really?
00:19:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, like I actually need to do it because my roughing cycles are fucking jittery as hell because I'm going quite fast on the roughing cycles.
00:20:00
Curt
hu
00:20:04
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:20:06
jamie peacock
So I would like to actually mess around with that. But I tried to output it from Fusion and the controller wasn't happy with me. and I can't remember why. I did mess around with it for a little bit. But that actually brings up, I wanted to ask you about your tool break detect macros.
00:20:23
jamie peacock
Are you just using the built-in tool break detect cycle on your machine or what are you doing for tool break detects?
00:20:29
Curt
ah The built-in and I'm not even messing with it yet. So it's a it's unknown if it works or not.
00:20:32
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:20:35
jamie peacock
Okay. Because, yeah, if you want, I'll send you my code, my TBD code. um I do need to add some extra functionality, or I need to modify my post, one of the two.
00:20:47
jamie peacock
So either i need to modify my post that at the beginning of every operation, it will add in whatever the work coordinate set is. Because i mean I know we discussed this a while ago where I went and a tool break detect between operations with the same tool and nearly crashed.
00:21:02
jamie peacock
because my yeah because I changed to G598 so that I can wrap it above the tool set and then just boop it instead of waiting a month of Sundays for it to come down.
00:21:03
Curt
yeah, yeah.
00:21:11
Curt
Right.
00:21:13
jamie peacock
um
00:21:13
Curt
Yep.
00:21:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've got that little script. I would like to store the current work offset. I just have not bothered reading enough manuals to do that. It's one of those things that it's not super critical, so I haven't done it.
00:21:24
Curt
Yeah, no, totally.
00:21:28
Curt
yeah no totally
00:21:28
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, you know how it goes. Find other more exciting things to do.
00:21:33
Curt
Yeah, well, i know when I dropped the, um like when I had those issues with the fourth axis, they sent me a brand new like PLC to load into the control to like change everything.
00:21:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:41
Curt
And they're like, okay, move the machine to its machine zeros or like make sure it's
Social Media Finds & Industry Shoutouts
00:21:45
Curt
at machine zeros because you're like, you're going to reset the control and it's going to reset everything.
00:21:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:48
Curt
um But then after I did that procedure, my ah tool touch off macro just throws those alarms at me. It's like access over travel or something.
00:21:55
jamie peacock
Oh, shit. OK.
00:21:56
Curt
I'm like, oh shit. So it's it's something, but I've already like, and same thing before I did this, I envisioned this might happen. So I made sure I had like,
00:22:03
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:22:03
Curt
the yeah
00:22:04
jamie peacock
Solid backups.
00:22:04
Curt
I used one of my offsets and just like put my offset where the tool.
00:22:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:07
Curt
So was like, OK, I can do this manually if I need to. um But yeah, it just it killed all the automated processes.
00:22:10
jamie peacock
yeah
00:22:13
Curt
And I just haven't gotten that gotten around to fixing it yet.
00:22:15
jamie peacock
yeah hasn't been urgent enough to fix it speaking of x5s with fourth axis do you follow noddy prof noddy performance hang on let me not ruin his name um noddy yeah noddy's performance no noddy's performance on instagram
00:22:15
Curt
So eventually. Yeah.
00:22:22
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:22:27
Curt
Naughty performance. Like, OK. I'll look it up, too. yeah
00:22:38
Curt
Like naughty spell like ah like a bad girl?
00:22:40
jamie peacock
no D y s performance
00:22:42
Curt
Oh, okay, never mind. Or bad boy. Naughty performance. Okay, whatever your flavor is.
00:22:47
jamie peacock
yeah dude Ozzy made I okay I thought it wasn't dude dude dude look at his most recent Instagram post quickly
00:22:48
Curt
Okay, sweet. Now I follow him. Ozzy made CNC products.
00:22:55
Curt
Oh, sick. oh he's got a little... Oh, I'm going to shake this guy's fucking tree. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
00:23:04
jamie peacock
There will be a link to this in the show notes for anyone else who wants to follow along. He goes, dude, I didn't realize. I thought he was following me. um Turns out he wasn't. So I liked his story.
00:23:17
jamie peacock
He started following me and I messaged him. I'm like, dude, if it's dumb and it works, it isn't dumb.
00:23:22
Curt
Oh, he's got the whole fifth act or the fourth axis canted over on the table on the X5.
00:23:26
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:23:26
Curt
Oh, I'm going to shake this dude's tree.
00:23:27
jamie peacock
Yep. Dude.
00:23:29
Curt
i have I have questions for him.
00:23:30
jamie peacock
Brilliant. Dude. Oh, no, no. He makes ah ah um What's it a jet ski engine, bullet jet ski engine on his X5 and his lathe literally bolts it to the turret and line balls it with his lathe.
00:23:38
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.
00:23:44
jamie peacock
The Soak is a magician.
00:23:45
Curt
Oh. Oh, I like this guy's content. Oh, I'm going to binge the shit out of this tonight.
00:23:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, no dude, I've been following him for years.
00:23:52
Curt
Okay.
00:23:53
jamie peacock
For some reason, I thought he was in the UK.
00:23:54
Curt
Okay.
00:23:55
jamie peacock
Obviously never read his profile. But yeah, Link will be date will definitely be in the in the show notes because worth checking out.
00:23:58
Curt
Cool.
00:24:03
jamie peacock
His work is amazing.
00:24:05
Curt
No doubt. i want to see what control he has on that five.
00:24:06
jamie peacock
yeah I don't think it's the Siemens it's it's old he's had his machine for years I think it's probably the Sintec or the don't think it's GSK
00:24:08
Curt
he has a Siemens, I really have to bug him. Probably not. Never is. Hmm.
00:24:20
Curt
Oh, wow. Yeah, he's got cool shit. Okay, I will quit looking at this. That's cool.
00:24:23
jamie peacock
yeah no yeah no I think I might just hit him ah hit him up and say listen really we mentioned you quite thoroughly in the podcast
00:24:23
Curt
You're doing cool work, my dude. If you ever listen to this, you're doing cool work.
00:24:32
jamie peacock
But yeah, his stuff like dude that I saw that I just giggled because I was literally discussing doing that with a customer this week or last week.
00:24:39
Curt
That's cool. Yeah, that's cool.
00:24:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, if it's dumb and it works, it isn't dumb.
00:24:44
Curt
Speaking of people doing cool work, I just listened to the latest ah oh with Intolerance.
00:24:45
jamie peacock
but
00:24:51
jamie peacock
What's up?
00:24:53
Curt
No, with ah the guy that runs Caffatech. Or maybe, sorry, it wasn't the most recent. It was the second most recent. ah He does, like, custom, no, he does custom ah coffee grinders, like, for espresso.
00:25:01
jamie peacock
With Dave Brassass. No.
00:25:08
jamie peacock
Oh, yes. Yeah, no, that was really good.
00:25:10
Curt
Oh, that's a good episode.
00:25:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:11
Curt
Anyways, his, yeah, go check out his Instagram too. He's got, they're so pretty. I want, I want one. I like coffees. I'm a big coffee nerd and I really like his work, but yeah, he's been talking about all kinds of cool stuff.
00:25:21
jamie peacock
Danica straight up gonna swear at me when she eats the stock.
00:25:22
Curt
And
00:25:25
Curt
but you can't spell it You can't spell it like that.
00:25:27
jamie peacock
I spelt it incorrectly on purpose to annoy my wife.
00:25:30
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:25:31
jamie peacock
The South Africans will know where went with this, but hopefully no one else will.
00:25:31
Curt
i
00:25:34
jamie peacock
ah
00:25:35
Curt
I'm not even it' South African and I know that one. So yeah.
00:25:36
jamie peacock
Yeah. Kyrdallika's going swear at me in the morning. It's going to great. um Yeah, no, that was like a really good episode as well. So i was one with Zap and the one before.
00:25:45
Curt
They're
00:25:47
jamie peacock
There's been some killer content lately.
00:25:49
Curt
all good. No doubt, yeah.
00:25:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:52
Curt
Dylan is crushing it.
00:25:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, definitely.
00:25:54
Curt
So, yeah.
00:25:55
jamie peacock
And thank you to Dylan.
00:25:55
Curt
Thank you for the...
00:25:56
jamie peacock
He's one of our ah patrons.
00:25:59
Curt
Yeah, well, thanks for the entertainment.
00:25:59
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:26:00
Curt
like I love when people have interesting people to talk to.
00:26:01
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:26:04
Curt
and it's Yeah, it's super super cool to hear people's story. and Yeah.
00:26:07
jamie peacock
Yeah. Speaking of, our next episode is guest episode.
00:26:08
Curt
It's good.
00:26:11
jamie peacock
So we will pull some strings behind the scenes and make that happen.
00:26:12
Curt
Ooh.
00:26:15
jamie peacock
But yeah, you guys can expect a guest.
00:26:16
Curt
Cool.
00:26:18
jamie peacock
We have some people somewhat lined up. We'll go rattle trees this week. and then yeah actually got a message from one of them before the podcast asked if we did a q and a this week uh we didn't do a q and a this week but we did one last week and some questions came in a bit after the thing so before we get to the q and a want to shout out our patreons
00:26:24
Curt
Cool, yeah, I'm excited.
00:26:39
jamie peacock
ah Because we have a patron for the show. It makes the wheels on the show go round and round. And big shout out all our patrons. Thank you very much. And an especially big shout out to Jake from Benchmark20 and Luke from Fabtastic.
00:26:50
jamie peacock
They're at the top tier. If you want to get a shout out, you can join and you'll get a shout out. And then if you want to keep getting shouted out, you can join in one of the higher tiers. that's ah Patreon is there to, well, recoup Zencaster being thieves.
00:27:03
jamie peacock
ah And then also to get a new camera. And IMTS happens next year, then it's going towards us having a joel there. We'll convince Kurt to come with, even though he says he doesn't want to.
00:27:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:15
jamie peacock
We'll make him.
00:27:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:16
jamie peacock
We'll fly to Canada and drag him.
00:27:16
Curt
No, I'll send a robot. that That's the next step that's going to happen. Anyways, carrying on.
00:27:21
jamie peacock
ye Anyway, um yeah, so we did a Q&A last week um on Instagram, which I have now managed to successfully lose on my phone. I had it open, and then EJ sent me a message.
00:27:33
jamie peacock
He is busy, i don't know. many of you follow EJ in internal welding?
00:27:38
Curt
Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
00:27:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah, he's driving the struggle bus hard.
00:27:39
Curt
All right. All
00:27:43
jamie peacock
Hard, yeah.
00:27:43
Curt
Oh, sorry.
00:27:45
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, it's a bit rough. He's doing some subtract parts. Speaking of, if you guys are looking to have parts made, check out Subtract Manufacturing. They make parts, kind of like Xometry, but all domestic in the US.
00:27:59
jamie peacock
A bunch of small shops together, so they can be more than the sum of their parts. But yeah, check them out.
00:28:05
Curt
oh sorry
00:28:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:08
Curt
I wasn't following him, so... Sorry, my dude.
00:28:10
jamie peacock
Oh, okay.
00:28:10
Curt
i'm following I'm following you now. I thought I was. You just come across my feet enough, I guess.
00:28:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, I know he listens, but yeah, he just messaged me now.
00:28:13
Curt
Yeah. There we go.
00:28:15
jamie peacock
He scrapped the parts for the third time. He's really struggling with these parts. Like, they keep moving.
00:28:20
Curt
Oh.
00:28:21
jamie peacock
It's two pieces that get welded together and then machined. And yeah, I think it's driving him bit crazy.
00:28:26
Curt
ah Oh.
00:28:27
jamie peacock
Well, I don't know if you follow this guy. I know you know him. Ringinator.
00:28:34
Curt
Ringinator?
00:28:35
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:28:36
Curt
How do I not...
00:28:38
jamie peacock
Hang on, though.
00:28:38
Curt
It doesn't ring a bell. ah
00:28:42
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:28:42
Curt
Welcome to our podcast where we just call out people continuously for the entire show.
00:28:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, pretty much. That is the podcast. Sorry, just looking through to see if this is the person I think it is. Martin.
00:28:57
jamie peacock
Oh, no, different person. Okay, anyway. Ringinator asked us, what is your favorite flavor of mustard?
00:29:06
Curt
ah You go first.
00:29:07
jamie peacock
Very important questions. German mustard.
00:29:09
Curt
yeah
00:29:09
jamie peacock
Duh. What else can have with a frickin' Brockforst?
00:29:11
Curt
Okay. Yeah, fair enough. yeah um um' so I like all mustards, honestly.
00:29:14
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:15
Curt
Honey mustards, Dijons.
00:29:16
jamie peacock
hate Dijon mustard. That shit can just get thrown out the window. And the one with the little Borlickies can also just get yeeted out the window.
00:29:20
Curt
like it all.
00:29:22
Curt
Good to me, too. Whatever works.
00:29:23
jamie peacock
i Okay. And then ah more on topic. um This one, I assume, is aimed more at me from Charles Watt.
00:29:34
jamie peacock
Are there any weird laws around manufacturing in SA or exporting manufactured products? ah No. There are fancy things called tariffs that some big Cheeto keeps changing.
00:29:47
jamie peacock
But, yeah, other than that, there's nothing specific. We do kind of get a bit of VAT exemption or tax exemption, apparently, if I'm exporting goods because it's bringing your money into the country, allegedly. So,
00:29:59
jamie peacock
Anyway, need to look into that.
00:29:59
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:30:00
jamie peacock
But yeah, as far as I know, there's nothing. ah yeah There's no there's no special legal things. And then another question from Charles was, ah what's your opinion about fusion manager or fusion operations?
00:30:15
jamie peacock
And would you ever invest in those? I don't know what Fusion manages. I'm assuming Fusion manage and Fusion operations are aimed at people who have large groups of people designing things to help with basically branching designs and things to that effect.
00:30:34
jamie peacock
I see Kurt going for the mouse, so assume he's quickly Googling it.
00:30:37
Curt
Yeah. I have no idea either, so sorry, I can't.
00:30:38
jamie peacock
yeah Yeah, I'm assuming that's got more to do with...
00:30:40
Curt
Nope.
00:30:42
jamie peacock
large operations. like I think both guys are one man shops with no real intentions of adding people to our ah fusion. So yeah, not really something we
00:30:51
Curt
Nope.
00:30:52
jamie peacock
we look at using. I mean, we used to use Fusion where I used to work. If i was logged into file, now the other guys couldn't log into it. It was what it was. We had a folder called Work Any Work Work, which I actually still owned until I moved to Fusion Hubs.
00:31:05
jamie peacock
I hadn't worked there for six years and I still owned all their designs on my Fusion account. It was great.
00:31:10
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:10
jamie peacock
the yeah Their infrastructure was hilarious. um
00:31:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:31:17
jamie peacock
Kind of curious if Joshua actually found his adjustable wrench from last week. I guess I'd have to mention, I'd have to message him. He was making T-nuts for his turret this morning.
00:31:26
Curt
I saw that. Yeah, they're pretty.
00:31:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:28
Curt
they're Yeah, they're pretty peanuts.
00:31:28
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, they look friggin' spiffy. Curved T-nuts. Yeah. Interesting way of attaching a turret.
00:31:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:31:33
jamie peacock
But anyway.
00:31:34
Curt
Yeah.
00:31:34
jamie peacock
Alright, cool. So yeah, sorry. Thought I'd get that out of the way before we forget about it and get distracted as we tend to do.
00:31:41
jamie peacock
um Yeah, so what is... ah I'm sorry, I'm busy reading things. I'm very good at reading. um Yeah, what's cooking with your four taxes?
00:31:41
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:31:53
Curt
So I'm still trying to like, I don't know if I, I mentioned a long while ago that like when it does its profiling, like let's say I'm i'm cutting ah a shape on a round tube that I'm rotating in the fourth and then moving back and forth in X.
00:32:03
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:32:04
Curt
um i'm yeah I'm seeing like a ah movement from where it should be. Like let's say if I cut a perfect triangle, if I want to put a triangle over like for one of my iso grip patterns, if I want to put a triangle over a rotated tube, I'm seeing it kind of skew like convex in one direction.
00:32:20
Curt
let's Let's say the diagonal of the triangle.
00:32:24
Curt
This is getting complicated.
00:32:24
jamie peacock
Sorry, trying to figure out... con Okay, yeah, yeah, sure.
00:32:27
Curt
Imagine a triangle. You have one straight line, which is just like a pure X move. And then you have two, you have two 45s.
00:32:30
jamie peacock
Sure.
00:32:32
Curt
If you want to think of it that way, you kind of go up to the point or so yeah.
00:32:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, 60s, but sure.
00:32:35
Curt
Yeah. One 20 sixties, whatever you go up to the point, you come back down to the point.
00:32:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:39
Curt
um Those two lines, which are, if you were doing them on a three axis machine, they would involve your X and Y moving together to, to make the diagonal.
00:32:47
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:32:49
Curt
on a rotary, it's moving the X and it's rotating the fourth. And that's how you get your diagonal line.
00:32:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:56
Curt
So the thing I'm seeing is one side of that like that diagonal is is bulged out and the other side is bulged in. And if I change the direction of travel, I climb to conventional, it swaps.
00:33:07
Curt
So that just, to me, it means that the rotary isn't moving fast enough. Like it it's hitting the points. The end points are perfect, but it's accelerating too slowly in comparison to the X, which is weird because it should be synced perfectly.
00:33:13
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:33:19
Curt
um Just, you know, the the control should know that.
00:33:20
jamie peacock
It should be, yes. Is it not? It's not doing it's not doing some weird center point thing.
00:33:26
Curt
No, no, I've disabled center point just for that reason. Cause I was like, well, maybe it's doing something bizarre, but no, it's, it's. And the thing is, if I slow it way down, I slowed it down to 1%. Um, so like it cuts at about, uh, this specific cuts moving at about 40 inches per minute, which is well within the realms of all the axes.
00:33:42
jamie peacock
Oh, that's a decent speed. Yeah, that's a decent speed.
00:33:45
Curt
Yeah. But even the rotary, like if I back calculate the rotary,
00:33:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, should be... able Yeah, no, like... It should be fine.
00:33:49
Curt
It goes, ah the rotary can do 100 and like 107 or 120 inches per minute, no problem, at that diameter because it's diameter related.
00:33:55
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:33:57
Curt
But if I slow it way down, so it's going at like two inches per minute, it cuts perfectly. Like it cuts the diagonals dead square. Everything is perfect. And as I was like keep speeding up, it starts to it starts to get out of, sorry, diagonal and in line.
00:34:08
jamie peacock
Well, if your diagonal's square, we've got problems, but yeah I get what you're saying.
00:34:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, it makes it a straight line. ah Is that not got something to do with the G822? Or whatever that code was, you spouted at me earlier?
00:34:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:21
Curt
I, uh, 832, the G, the cycle 832 on a Siemens.
00:34:25
jamie peacock
the The smoothing.
00:34:26
Curt
Yeah. The smoothing, it should be, I'm running smoothing and it's running like for that operation, it's running two tenths tolerance to path. So that shouldn't be it.
00:34:33
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:34:35
jamie peacock
And that, yeah.
00:34:35
Curt
Um, and it also in Siemens, you group axes, you can group your X and your fourth together.
00:34:40
Curt
I think it's something in there.
00:34:41
jamie peacock
Okay, so they move in sync here.
00:34:42
Curt
I sent a message just, yeah, Sile they're like, your code is perfect.
00:34:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:34:46
Curt
They're like, um,
00:34:47
jamie peacock
um
00:34:47
Curt
like They're like, are you using a tailstock?
00:34:48
jamie peacock
Out of curiosity.
00:34:50
Curt
I'm like, what do you mean a tailstock? Get lost. So anyways, I'm going to come on my own for this.
00:34:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. um Just out curiosity on that, if you enable points in Fusion, how many points are you using to drive that line? Is it start and end or is it a bunch of points along the line?
00:35:07
Curt
It's a bunch of points along the line. Yeah.
00:35:10
jamie peacock
OK, just checking because that that would be something if it's front end, front point and back point.
00:35:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:15
jamie peacock
there could be some weirdness going on. But if it's multiple points along, I can't see it wouldn't hit all those points.
00:35:19
Curt
You know what? That's a good point to just, I should repost it with just like three points of a triangle. Cause then it would, it should spit out just one line of code, even though it's like in inverse time code, it should be one line of code that handles it.
00:35:30
jamie peacock
One line of Yeah.
00:35:35
Curt
day Yeah, that's a good point. I should try that. Cause I wonder and if, wonder if something kooky is going on there.
00:35:37
jamie peacock
Yeah. It would be interesting to see what it does, because that would tell you if there's some backlash comp or something in hidden somewhere. Because when you say you go conventional to um to climb and it mirrors it, that says to me that there's backlash comp happening somewhere that is not needed.
00:35:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:55
Curt
Yeah, that's a good point. really considered that.
00:35:57
jamie peacock
I wouldn't be surprised if there was backlash comp on the either backlash on the rotary or backlash comp enabled on the rotary that doesn't need to be there.
00:36:04
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:36:08
Curt
Yeah, that's a good point, too.
00:36:09
jamie peacock
Because if, yeah, yeah, then would lean on, yeah, that's weird.
00:36:10
Curt
Because, yeah, and it's perfect like, it repeats perfectly. So it's it's something related. And like, hmm. And it but it's speed dependent, which is weird. Unless, it doesn't matter.
00:36:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, that is also, yeah, that's kind of creepy.
00:36:22
Curt
It's
00:36:24
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's interesting that it's doing that.
00:36:26
Curt
yeah Yeah, and I don't know why, like...
00:36:27
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, a fun a fun thing to try and problem solve.
00:36:31
Curt
Well, and everybody should be encountering this. Like, it's not like... Like, it's not... I'm not chasing a 2,000 path deviation. Like, this deviation is like 20,000.
00:36:38
jamie peacock
No, it's clearly visible.
00:36:39
Curt
Like, it's visible. um
00:36:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's very weird.
00:36:41
Curt
Yeah, so something's up. Something's up. don't know what it is.
00:36:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, that I would be very curious see what happens when you do it with less points.
00:36:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:48
jamie peacock
But even still, like if it's hitting all the points, I would expect it to be better than Yeah, it it sounds like some kind of compensation to me.
00:36:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:59
jamie peacock
um
00:36:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:59
jamie peacock
Just because it's bowing the way you describing it. It's when it's going this way. And when it's going opposite direction, it's the opposite. That leads me to think it's some kind of compensation going on.
00:37:07
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:37:11
Curt
Yeah. And you could like, imagine if I could watch it in slow motion, I would see the, the, like if I could somehow see where both axes should be, I would see the, the fourth axis initially lag and then it would catch up in the, and then it would catch up by the end.
00:37:23
Curt
So it's like, Hmm.
00:37:24
jamie peacock
I'm assuming you're watching the the controller while this is running.
00:37:29
Curt
It's a quick operation, but yeah, I am. But I mean, like every line, it's going through like many lines of code.
00:37:31
jamie peacock
I would... And there's no funny Y axis happening there.
00:37:36
Curt
No, no y-axis at all.
00:37:37
jamie peacock
Okay, to just making sure that it's not like doing some weird shit with the axis that you're not expecting and you haven't noticed, but you wouldn't have not noticed that.
00:37:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:45
Curt
Yeah, no, I stripped it out just to make sure make sure it doesn't even post y-axis.
00:37:47
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:37:49
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:49
jamie peacock
Okay, no, no, because that I mean, that is another option that Fusion's doing some weird shit and trying to compensate for something and pushing the Y, and that would also add some funny movements.
00:37:57
Curt
Yeah, buts that's a good point. Yeah, that's good one. Yeah.
00:38:01
jamie peacock
Yeah, you never know.
00:38:01
Curt
Like said, you slow...
00:38:01
jamie peacock
That's problem. you You should not code out a Fusion and assume it's right.
00:38:05
Curt
Yeah, well, that's the thing is you slow it right down. It's perfect. So I'm like, hmm, it's something. It's something weird. Like, so, yeah.
00:38:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's a really weird, because I know my machine will, if I try to tell it to go interpret a bore at 10 millimeters diameter and tell it to go freaking 48 meters a minute, it's going to do like 900 millimeters a minute because that's as fast as it can accurately hit all the points.
00:38:25
Curt
Yeah, totally. Yeah, exactly.
00:38:25
jamie peacock
So I know they will slow themselves down to hit your smoothing tolerance and you obviously not anywhere near that point.
00:38:29
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:34
Curt
Yeah. So it's, like said, it's something dumb.
00:38:35
jamie peacock
um
00:38:36
Curt
It's just, that's a problem.
00:38:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, your tool's bending out of the way.
00:38:40
Curt
I wish. I wish it was something simple. Like, you know what? No, it wouldn't be. because ah No, because it's not changing the cut direction. If it was doing that, it would do it on both axes.
00:38:52
Curt
Like if I'm pocketing, it the tool is always seeing the cutting load on on the whatever, the incoming side of the cut.
00:38:56
jamie peacock
No.
00:38:59
jamie peacock
you've got a triangle and you're going this way, Kurt, it's going to push down towards me. And when you come back this way it's going to push up towards me because the material is the opposite side of it.
00:39:08
jamie peacock
Your cutter is bending out of the way
00:39:08
Curt
have to think about this.
00:39:12
jamie peacock
because it's touching on the opposite wall.
00:39:13
Curt
I can't... I can't see it.
00:39:14
jamie peacock
Oh, no, no. It would both be inwards. No, no, you're It would both be inwards.
00:39:19
Curt
Well, and, like, there's a finishing pass of, like, 2,000.
00:39:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, fair enough.
00:39:20
Curt
So, like...
00:39:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, okay.
00:39:22
Curt
Anyway.
00:39:22
jamie peacock
So it's not your cutter bending out of the way.
00:39:23
Curt
I'll figure it out. It's just... No. And I've known about it forever, and I've been trying to fix it forever. And, like I said, I have been talking to Sile, and they're like, I don't know, everything looks perfect.
00:39:29
jamie peacock
yeah
00:39:31
Curt
like I'm like, well, haven't you encountered this before? Like, this isn't... Eh. Eh.
00:39:35
jamie peacock
yeah there shouldn't be something new but uh yeah yeah all fun stuff um yeah like that's really really weird because i yeah that's really really it seems like to me it seems like a backlash type thing or something
00:39:35
Curt
Whatever. Language. Yeah, language barriers. I'm sure they're sick of talking to me after all the fourth axis jargons. It's like, all right.
00:39:48
Curt
It's bizarre.
00:39:55
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:55
jamie peacock
Or, yeah, i don't know. Or the acceleration profile is not right on your, on the fourth.
00:40:01
Curt
Yeah, but either way, it should time it.
00:40:02
jamie peacock
That it's, yeah, it should.
00:40:03
Curt
like so the The controller should still... It should time it, even if the...
00:40:05
jamie peacock
Should still, because it knows where the motor is. And yeah, that's the point of a closed-loop CNC controller, is that it knows what's going on.
00:40:08
Curt
Yeah, see.
00:40:11
Curt
Even if it's going slow. Yeah, it would be like, oh, I'll just have to slow the X down to to keep up with the the fourth or vice versa.
00:40:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's, that's strange.
00:40:18
Curt
um I'll crack it. I know I'll crack it. It's just...
00:40:22
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway.
00:40:22
Curt
Yeah. Glad I don't depend on it right now.
00:40:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, so.
00:40:26
jamie peacock
yeah no good thing that you don't depend on right now because it's a yeah being a soul
00:40:32
Curt
Yeah, but, I mean, tis the risk you take when you buy a, quote, budget machine, so.
00:40:36
jamie peacock
yes yeah well that's yeah that's exactly it ah yeah anyway uh you remember little wire chopper that I made
00:40:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:46
Curt
I did, yeah, i saw but I saw that story this morning.
00:40:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, remember I struggled the last time to do 15 kgs of wire and I melted the MIG feeder?
00:40:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, just built an extruder for like a 3D printer, type extruder on a NEMA 23 motor with a MIG wire gear that I had wire cut open.
00:40:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:02
jamie peacock
I've run 45 kilos in two days.
00:41:05
Curt
I was amazed how fast that ah fast that reel was spinning.
00:41:05
jamie peacock
It takes three and a half hours. Yeah. i So i put I put a frequency thingy on my phone. it's ah the The cutting is happening at...
00:41:17
jamie peacock
ah It was 24 hertz, so 1,440 strokes per minute.
00:41:22
Curt
ah Wow.
00:41:23
jamie peacock
yeah
00:41:23
Curt
Wow. That's cooking along.
00:41:24
jamie peacock
It just goes and runs. So I run through that roll in three and half hours through a 15 kg roll.
00:41:27
Curt
but
00:41:29
Curt
Wow.
00:41:30
jamie peacock
yeah know It's zooming along now. I'm going to do another 15 kg roll tomorrow.
00:41:36
Curt
Cool.
00:41:37
jamie peacock
yeah so i've got at least i got that dial finally like i was going to machine all the parts out of alley and like make it all bullet bits and i was like hang on let me just print out a t of ptg see if it works if it works i'll do aluminium the motor doesn't even get hot i'm like screwed it can stay as ptg when it wears out i'll print i actually sheared actually broke off a wood screw from the vibration today i went there like why is the motor skew had a look pulled the head of the screw out like well shit
00:41:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:51
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:42:01
Curt
I'm surprised the ah the cutting end is is like maintaining for that. Because it's making a lot of freaking cuts.
00:42:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, but it's also hardened K110 tool steel or a hardened gauge plate.
00:42:14
Curt
Still, you're whacking the hell out of it continuously.
00:42:18
jamie peacock
Yeah, but that's why it's all hardened.
00:42:18
Curt
Yeah. Impressive.
00:42:20
jamie peacock
Like I literally went to a customer and hardened the pieces so that they would be hard as hell that they weren't going to wear out. And so far we're at that cunning end is what it's done now. 75, 75 kilos of material.
00:42:36
jamie peacock
It'll be 90 kilos tomorrow.
00:42:37
Curt
That's so many cuts.
00:42:39
jamie peacock
It's freaking silly.
00:42:39
Curt
That's so... And that's in one focused little area of whatever how two millimeters or whatever that is.
00:42:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:42:44
Curt
Like, that's a lot.
00:42:44
jamie peacock
1.1. Yeah.
00:42:46
Curt
That's a lot of... That's a lot of metal moving past another piece of metal.
00:42:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, I put oil on it every like two hours. Squirt some whey oil into it. And then it quietens down for a bit. But yeah, it it's a tool. Like, it's made of tool steel. It's doing tool steel things.
00:43:01
jamie peacock
I'm surprised the mild steel body hasn't worn out yet because it's tool steel rubbing on a piece of mild steel.
00:43:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:07
jamie peacock
But again, it's lubricated and there's no funny forces involved. It's pretty well constrained. So it's literally just a shear force. So it'll do the thing. And when it gets blunt, I'll grind sharp up again because it's not even sharp. It's a square edge that just katunk shears off.
00:43:22
Curt
Right.
00:43:22
jamie peacock
And it only needs...
00:43:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:25
jamie peacock
I think it only needs like four newton meters to actually make the cut. Four or five newton meters.
00:43:29
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:43:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, I tested it on a step, I had a stepper on a gearbox to figure out kind of how much force and then I put a closed loop stepper on it.
00:43:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:38
jamie peacock
8.5 newton meter that just spins at a thousand watt, like 1500 RPM.
00:43:39
Curt
Hmm.
00:43:42
Curt
Hmm.
00:43:44
jamie peacock
With an Arduino, you got pull the wire off and put it back onto the ground pin to get it to start. And then it runs.
00:43:48
Curt
yeah
00:43:49
jamie peacock
Because I can't use one of the little stepper drivers I have because its signals are 3.3 volts and this closed loop stepper driver only runs on 5 volts.
00:44:00
Curt
Okay.
00:44:00
jamie peacock
and will not It will not run on 3.3 volts.
00:44:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:03
jamie peacock
It's really frustrating.
00:44:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:05
jamie peacock
Like signals. So yeah, not a bit annoying, but it is what it is. It's running now. I need to put it...
00:44:10
Curt
hu
00:44:10
jamie peacock
i don't I want to rebuild it to be a little bit neater and then it can go to the customer. like Then he can run it. don't have to listen to it go brrrr all day.
00:44:18
Curt
Yeah, it's a little Mad Max-y looking.
00:44:19
jamie peacock
because it is a little, if it's dumb and it works, it isn't dumb.
00:44:20
Curt
I'm
00:44:23
jamie peacock
I literally cobbled it together out of a piece of of chipboard that I had laying around.
00:44:24
Curt
not arguing.
00:44:30
jamie peacock
ah to ah One of the things I was told to address, so we got some more shout outs on Taps and Patients for the anchor point. And I'm looking at my traffic, I'm like, we're getting good traffic, but we're not getting checkouts.
00:44:42
jamie peacock
And I think it's got to do with the tariffs notification I put on the website.
00:44:43
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:44:46
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:44:47
jamie peacock
clearly stating that the tariffs are not my problem.
00:44:48
Curt
we point?
00:44:50
jamie peacock
um
00:44:50
Curt
Allegedly.
00:44:51
jamie peacock
It's in the T's and C's, so it's still there, just behind a little I accept T's and C's button, so we took it off today. And we'll see if that affects anything. ah But regarding the tariffs, I got an email from Tunnel, my shipping agent, the guys who apparently yeah pull miracles off with FedEx.
00:45:08
jamie peacock
um The new tariffs are coming to into effect as of the first, because the cheeto got grumpy. And it's a...
00:45:16
Curt
allegedly
00:45:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, allegedly, allegedly the tariffs are coming in on the 1st. As it stands, it's a 30% tariff on any orders into the US that are over $800 because Dominicus, Dominus, whatever, still applies.
00:45:31
jamie peacock
I wasn't sure if it was going to still apply, but it does still apply according to my shipping agents.
00:45:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:35
jamie peacock
So that is why if you buy two anchor points, you get charged shipping twice because shipping twice is cheaper than 30% duties. um So yeah, going forward, everything that ships out will be under $800 per box to make sure that it gets in there without you having to pay additional tariffs because some dickhead decided that he wanted to charge tariffs.
00:45:54
jamie peacock
But yeah, so address the tariffs. There are no tariffs on anchor points as far as we can tell, unless you live in any other country in the world that's used to paying tariffs and import duties.
00:46:04
jamie peacock
Because everyone else pays them because that's how the world works.
00:46:05
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, I literally sent it to Kurt and I'm like, hey, Kurt, did you get any import duties?
00:46:11
Curt
Well, tomorrow's taco.
00:46:15
jamie peacock
like, yeah, no, don't worry, sorted it out. Because you expect it.
00:46:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:20
jamie peacock
Because you live in any other country in the world.
00:46:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:24
jamie peacock
But yeah, it is what it is.
00:46:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:26
jamie peacock
I just thought I would address it because hopefully that will result in these last four units leaving my bloody house. um Yeah, because I would like them out of my house now.
00:46:36
Curt
and well I'm going to um have to bark up your tree and get some and then I'm going to get you just to fill the box with as many pallets as you can until the UPS people yell at you. and
00:46:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, there you go.
00:46:48
Curt
And then I'll fill my machine.
00:46:48
jamie peacock
We can put a lot. um Yeah, I'm looking. um I've got some five-inch pallets that i want to do some testing on now. Because all my stuff, I just fit onto four-inch pallets.
00:46:55
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:46:56
jamie peacock
Unless I use the mooring point and then it's a long pallet.
00:46:57
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:46:59
jamie peacock
um
00:47:00
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:47:00
jamie peacock
I've got to make some other pallets because I've got 800 Dutchman squeeze box reeds coming.
00:47:05
Curt
Ooh, yeah, that'd be good palette work.
00:47:05
jamie peacock
That needs to be machined. So I'm going to make a second pallet that I can load the batches and only have a couple seconds downtime between cycles. Because the cycles aren't exactly long.
00:47:16
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
00:47:16
jamie peacock
so the second pallet is definitely needed there good thing I got a whole bunch in stock so I can just steal one of those and then I will make another one one of the advantages to having lots of pallets
00:47:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:27
Curt
Yeah. Well, I was, uh, I was comfortably sitting at my desk, unscrewing all the screws from the fixture and just looking at the nice pallet system sitting right beside me and just being like, okay, this is one of the last times I have to play this stupid game with a machine just sitting idle as I load parts into it.
00:47:41
Curt
So yeah, it just, i don't know.
00:47:43
jamie peacock
yeah yeah they're having having the power system is great
00:47:44
Curt
It's like, Well, it's like way less stress. Like I'm like way less stressed if the machine is running and making parts.
00:47:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:50
Curt
I'm like, okay, well, if it takes me an hour to load, whatever, throw a podcast on.
00:47:52
jamie peacock
Doesn't matter.
00:47:53
Curt
Like I still, I feel like I'm being productive when it's like when all the machines are stopped and they're waiting on me, then I feel like run fast.
00:47:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:59
Curt
Like just feel like money is just flying out the door for no good reason. So yeah.
00:48:03
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, 100%. Like, I mean, even on the on the weekend, was doing those little dedutment squeezebox reads. And I made a story saying this is where anchor point shines. Like I have the palette, I throw it into the machine, I load the code, I hit go.
00:48:17
jamie peacock
all the legwork is done. Like, it's super quick to just put it in and run. And then, I want to change something else. Change something else. Like, yeah, it's great.
00:48:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:24
jamie peacock
i love it. um Yeah, I'm probably going making a bunch of bunch more of those file guards. I don't know if i mentioned I was making KnifeMaker's filing guards.
00:48:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:33
jamie peacock
but That's what I needed to buy more screws for because I can't count.
00:48:33
Curt
I remember those, yeah.
00:48:37
jamie peacock
So the screws come in tomorrow. can go deliver the rest. The guy's sold out. Like, he's going to place another order.
00:48:42
Curt
Oh, wow. Oh, sick.
00:48:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, he's coming in at a really competitive price.
00:48:43
Curt
That's awesome.
00:48:45
jamie peacock
It's a little bit smaller than the other guys' ones because it doesn't need to be giant.
00:48:48
Curt
Oh.
00:48:49
jamie peacock
So he's made a more cost-effective version. And obviously with me machining it, do things cheaply apparently. um I mean, we still make a freaking killing on these things, especially when I put ah in a new M4 thread mill and don't have to re-tap everything by hand because I'm an illiterate.
00:49:03
jamie peacock
Um, yeah, i had to re-tap all the M4 holes in 60 parts because, yeah, um my thread mill's a little bit worse for wear and I gauged it with a screw, not a tap.
00:49:16
jamie peacock
So it was a little bit on the tight side.
00:49:17
Curt
ah
00:49:19
jamie peacock
So I will finally retire that thread mill after a year and a half in my machine. I think all my thread mills in my machine are still the original ones that I put in the machine.
00:49:30
Curt
Wow.
00:49:31
jamie peacock
Mm-hmm. I'm machining aluminum.
00:49:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:33
jamie peacock
They don't wear out.
00:49:34
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:35
jamie peacock
They machine steel occasionally, but not like majorly.
00:49:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:39
jamie peacock
ah yeah I've got to get some M2 threadmills now.
00:49:43
Curt
Cute. That was bit tiny.
00:49:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, know. I mustn't look at them because just break. um
00:49:47
Curt
Hmm.
00:49:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, i redesigned. So I had a meeting on Friday with the diesel guys. um So I know their CEO was overseas. I thought he was still overseas. So I went to this meeting. He pulls in. I'm like, oh, just a man i want to speak to.
00:49:59
jamie peacock
What's happening with your salespeople? Why aren't they selling stuff? He's like, No, no, they're busy. They've they've just put together the training that they can bring in new people for for that. He wants to actually bring in a whole bunch of mold making expertise into the country.
00:50:14
jamie peacock
Because they went he went to China, the you remember all the 3d printing I was doing.
00:50:18
Curt
Yep.
00:50:19
jamie peacock
He was in China for a week, came back with like two or 300 injection molded parts. They made the mold while he was in China.
00:50:24
Curt
Holy.
00:50:27
Curt
Wow.
00:50:27
jamie peacock
And injection molded samples.
00:50:29
Curt
Well, I mean, that's, that's what they do. That's, that's what they've invested in in the last.
00:50:31
jamie peacock
they are really frickin skilled. So he wants to actually start, ah start getting that expertise.
00:50:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:37
jamie peacock
So basically, get guys who want to do it and then bring the Chinese in and train ah the local guys how to do it.
00:50:42
Curt
Hmm.
00:50:43
jamie peacock
Because that that's the only way going to learn is by doing it on the job.
00:50:44
Curt
Hmm. Hmm.
00:50:47
jamie peacock
And a long chat term, we had a meeting because they're having they've, they've been chasing ah A weird situation on the diesel tubes I make for the last, like, year.
00:50:59
jamie peacock
They could not figure out what it was. Turns out when they tension the wire down it, it's spring-loaded. They're not bottoming the spring out. And when they screw the sensor in, it compresses the spring and loosens the wire. So their capacitance is all over the show.
00:51:10
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:51:12
jamie peacock
So, yeah, I basically had a meeting with them. We did ah a bit of a redesign on the on the whole stack. Because, I mean, I got given drawings. I made parts to drawings. I then established all the tolerances and whatnot.
00:51:23
Curt
Right.
00:51:24
jamie peacock
um But the part screwed in. i'm like, why is this screwing in? It's getting held in place by a wire.
00:51:31
jamie peacock
You're not pre installing it. You get get a little bank bag with your connector, your wire, all the stuff in a little banky. You get to site, you then cut the tube to length, assemble the whole thing, pull the wire through and tension it.
00:51:31
Curt
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:51:44
jamie peacock
It's held together by the wire. So I took the threads off, extended the depth of the hole by three millimeters, extended another piece by a few millimeters, like basically made it that I could, without changing too much stuff, I could adapt it going forward.
00:51:46
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:01
jamie peacock
And then I'm not charging them for design, so it's still my design. I'll charge them for parts, but I own the design.
00:52:06
Curt
yeah yeah
00:52:08
jamie peacock
I don't think they realize that's happening, but I don't mind. Because there's a number in mind if they ever do want their design. And at that point, they don't really have an option. So yeah, anyway.
00:52:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:19
jamie peacock
And then we've got to change one or two things. I'm like, yeah, well, if you don't tell me there's a problem, I can't fix it. They had one tube start rattling out of 1,458 that have been delivered in the last that i have been delivered in the last year
00:52:30
Curt
Oh, that's a good air
00:52:30
jamie peacock
was one that was delivered in February that failed.
00:52:31
Curt
Nice. airbar
00:52:34
jamie peacock
So I'm like, No, if you tell me there's an issue, we can address the issue. So we've got to do some minor tweaks to the assembly process. And then we'll be all sorted.
00:52:44
jamie peacock
But yeah, they are seriously dilly dallying with their sales. so So I was giving them a lot of shit about that. But I redesigned the whole sensor housing as well. So I designed a sensor housing a while ago.
00:52:44
Curt
nice
00:52:55
jamie peacock
And then I was looking at it, trying to come up with how the hell they're going to pot these ah they're electronics, because this thing gets so a little, effectively a cup. You put the board in, screw it down, and then they pot, but the potting is at an angle.
00:53:08
jamie peacock
So you've got to obviously have some moldy dingus in there. So I had a look at them like, why are we doing it this way? Just because it's that way now doesn't mean it has to be that way. So I ended up redesigning it so that the part gets pressed through a PTFE bush on the top, screwed down, and then they can pot with silicon, not epoxy, because it's not going to be in direct contact with diesel, and then press in an anodized aluminum lid that they can get from China.
00:53:33
jamie peacock
And then they can easily laser engrave on that anodized aluminum as well.
00:53:37
Curt
Right, oh that makes more sense, yeah.
00:53:38
jamie peacock
So yeah. So I sent samples out to our 3D printed samples over the weekend and sent them some 3D printed samples to play with.
00:53:45
Curt
That's cool.
00:53:45
jamie peacock
So should be interesting. Oh, yeah, I did take that off of my. So I'm just thinking about the the Google Boxing and what how my Google Box was violated yesterday.
00:53:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, I will probably tell you not in the after show after the podcast.
00:53:59
Curt
What were you looking at?
00:54:01
jamie peacock
I'll tell you what I Googled. It was quite entertaining. um Yeah, there's no ways that that is going to be associated with me on this podcast or anywhere. but it is quite funny. ah Anyway, so what have you been Googling this week, Kurt?
00:54:17
Curt
I have been Googling a little bit more fun things than last time.
00:54:19
jamie peacock
Oh, wait.
00:54:20
Curt
Oh, good.
00:54:20
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:54:21
Curt
Shoot.
00:54:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, sorry. We skipped one of your topics.
00:54:24
Curt
Oh, whatever. i don't even know what it was. Oh, yeah. I bought my wife an HD streaming camera for our anniversary just for some extra job security. um It wasn't.
00:54:33
jamie peacock
Oh, geez. Class for days.
00:54:35
Curt
No, i just I bought it for this stupid podcast. But I kept telling her. i was like i was like, I'm going to post that ah that you're buying it for your your secondary income stream. She's like, okay.
00:54:43
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:54:44
Curt
I was like, wait, OK as in we're going to do that, or OK as in?
00:54:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, was wearing my...
00:54:48
jamie peacock
i was so I was wearing my ChipFan shirt yesterday. We had some friends over along with one of the friends with her new boyfriend. So I was being classy as hell.
00:54:54
Curt
Nice.
00:54:57
Curt
Yeah, and I know I learned mine at the grocery store, but no one no one gets it around here. So that's whatever.
00:55:02
jamie peacock
I was wearing my face small one at QuizNight two weeks ago and the dude comes to me says, love your shirt.
00:55:02
Curt
It is what it is.
00:55:06
Curt
Nice.
00:55:08
jamie peacock
I actually had someone the other day say, I recognize that logo. I'm like, dude, really in public, you're gonna announce you recognize that logo.
00:55:13
Curt
Hey,
00:55:16
jamie peacock
Brave.
00:55:18
Curt
if you don't recognize that logo, I got questions for you.
00:55:18
jamie peacock
Yeah, 100%. yeah
00:55:20
Curt
yeah
00:55:21
jamie peacock
yeah hundred percent Yeah, I was getting I was getting gas. i was at the hardware store topping up my gas bottle for the little sunflower of justice heater. And guys, I can't recognize that logo. I'm like, damn straight you do.
00:55:32
Curt
What's the sunflower of justice?
00:55:35
jamie peacock
Oh, it's a little gas heater. It looks like fucking sunflower.
00:55:36
Curt
oh okay.
00:55:37
jamie peacock
I call it Sunflower of Justice.
00:55:38
Curt
Okay.
00:55:39
jamie peacock
It goes in my bathroom in the morning so that my toilet isn't fucking made of an icicle.
00:55:39
Curt
ah Okay, look.
00:55:44
jamie peacock
It's cold, yeah. It's like one whole degree for like 20 minutes.
00:55:48
Curt
oh yeah that's no that's if you don't have insulation in your house that'd be cold like that'd be yeah it's yeah
00:55:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, compared to you guys, this this is warm, but yeah.
00:55:55
jamie peacock
Well, let's think we don't have insulation. Well, I have lots of spare insulation. Well, I haven't told you that. We'll save that for after show of how Jamie bought insulation twice. There we go.
00:56:05
Curt
yeah you did i think you did mention that last time that you bought the wrong thickness but i think i think
00:56:05
jamie peacock
There's a lead to the after show.
00:56:08
jamie peacock
ah Yes, but I bought more.
00:56:11
Curt
Okay, cool. Well, i think you should go the way of, like, Black Fox then, and just make yourself a little, like, for up in the podcast area, make yourself, like, a little tent out of insulation.
00:56:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:56:18
jamie peacock
Oh I have a plan for the spare to go around my tumbler to try and shut that thing up and
00:56:21
Curt
Oh.
Technical Challenges & Solutions
00:56:23
jamie peacock
also let it stop bukkake-ing on my feet because that the media makes like white dust and then some smart dick designed it so it leaks and it throws the white dust or white water onto my shoes and yeah, really not into the bukkake on my shoes.
00:56:23
Curt
Oh.
00:56:26
Curt
No, fair enough.
00:56:33
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:56:37
Curt
Ha-ha-ha.
00:56:38
jamie peacock
so
00:56:39
Curt
Ha-ha-ha. just just elsewhere um anyways in my yeah exactly uh printables jamie's dry dock for anchor point palette system offline part change base because you just sent that to me um so i have to look that up a crap ton of siemens manuals and forums and whatnot because i'm trying to fix my thing or figure out what the issue is i think i might have fixed it but i'll try some experimenting and i'll report back next week
00:56:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, just elsewhere. Okay, yes, what is in your Google box?
00:56:50
jamie peacock
Nice. Yep. Nice.
00:57:06
Curt
um a bunch of hello kitty image searches because i print coloring pages for my girls and they're just locked onto hello kitty right now and then a fun one ah which is type 2 anodizing on titanium because i did play with that like a year ago and now i'm getting back into it because i had some uh less than stellar pens come out of the last batch that i just kept for playing with so i'm trying to do more type 2 on them because uh well no one yeah
00:57:07
jamie peacock
nice
00:57:29
jamie peacock
Top two in titanium is the hard one.
Type 2 Anodizing on Titanium
00:57:32
Curt
That's the hard one. No one does it. um As far as I understand, no one does it. and As far as I understand, no one knows how to do it. um But i I had one promising result. I type two anodized a piece and it did indeed come out type two.
00:57:45
Curt
And it's kind of a nasty procedure, um but would like to do it on pens because it's just, it's like brutally strong.
00:57:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:52
Curt
Like it's,
00:57:53
jamie peacock
OK.
00:57:54
Curt
Yeah, it's lovely stuff. It's kind of, you get that ah for titanium many anyways, you kind of get like a military gray green, like i talked about on the last episode.
00:58:00
jamie peacock
yes you you mentioned that okay
00:58:00
Curt
oh So its it's kind of visually pleasing if you like that kind of like utilitarian look. And yeah, don't know. kind of want to mess with it just because it's, like I said, it's so abrasion resistant.
00:58:12
Curt
It's like, I mean, it's not DLC level, but it's it's good.
00:58:13
jamie peacock
yeah yeah okay interesting your google box uh
00:58:16
Curt
And I can do it in-house, so. Yeah, I'd mess with that. That's that's basically my, how about you? What do you have you been Googling besides besides the illicit things you can't tell me about yet?
Researching Inserts & Restocking Plans
00:58:26
jamie peacock
ah Yes, ah so Wordle we're on 29. ah Then I was looking locally for ceramic and PCD. Your PCD inserts for hard turning because I now have to make custom bloody pins.
00:58:35
Curt
Mm-mm-mm.
00:58:39
jamie peacock
So I was just seeing what sizes were available because I run a DCMT07 in the Emco, but it did come with a DCMT11 holder when I bought it.
00:58:52
Curt
Cool. Nice. Yeah.
00:58:52
jamie peacock
And turns out I can get DCMT11 ceramics. So i'm going to get some DCMT11 ceramics and put that shitty tool holder back in my machine. It's missing a screw, so i've go to figure out what else screw I need.
00:59:04
jamie peacock
And then I'm looking at Z's now suppliers because he's now out of stock of the things I made, which is always awesome.
Production Processes & Online Presence
00:59:11
jamie peacock
So I'm going to hopefully deliver to him tomorrow afternoon another eight of these and convince him to give me an order for another 40.
00:59:11
Curt
so
00:59:18
Curt
nice yeah
00:59:19
jamie peacock
And then ah those are nice because they run on the self-centering vases for Op1 and then they go into a fixture for up to us, letting sort of more for connection, remember? I must have a look.
00:59:30
jamie peacock
But yeah, those run pretty, pretty nicely.
00:59:31
Curt
Oh.
00:59:33
jamie peacock
Okay, he hasn't sold many of the big ones. But yeah, that's all that's in my Google box, other than the the things we can't speak about on this podcast, because yeah, we're not pretending in that it's family friendly, but yeah, it's rough.
00:59:45
jamie peacock
um But yeah, anyway, we'll get into that between this and after show. um
00:59:53
jamie peacock
Where can people find your things and stuff?
00:59:57
Curt
confounded machine.com points you to there's billion pages there with all the information you would ever want and if ah there's something that doesn't just shoot me message i'm always happy to answer emails and it even points to the podcast stuff so if you want to buy one of the six shirts that uh that uh you know we're pumping out into the world uh danica's lovely designing um that i have to go buy more of now actually um hit that up too how about you
01:00:08
jamie peacock
Nice.
Merchandise Promotion & Listener Engagement
01:00:20
jamie peacock
um yeah you can find me at jspeceng.com there's a page there for the anchor point and anchor point resources and yeah whole bunch of fun stuff along with some shirts there's the podcast's web page at the loan machinists.com it's got a link through to the merch store as well for supporting danica who does all our editing and whatnot um she's got a bunch of fancy shirts and it's got some very classy ones on the way um i'm still i'm trying to get shirts out of where i'm like hey my birthday's coming up can i have some lemon shirts it's
01:00:20
Curt
jamie
01:00:43
Curt
I don't
01:00:47
jamie peacock
been like six months since i got shirts from her last so well other than the chip fans and faceable shirt um but yeah trying to get some some more shirts out of her but yeah you can check that out and there's also the patreon for the podcast to make the wheels on the podcast go round and round and maybe get a decent camera for me not that podcast listeners can hear us but the after show there's video um yeah so uh what are you up to today good
01:01:12
Curt
ah Today, I'll probably mess a little bit more with the fourth and then just start throwing some production on the sile. Let it get creating, you know, things that actually will make me money. And then I'll probably start in the next big batch of pens.
01:01:25
Curt
So yeah, just bunch of production.
01:01:25
jamie peacock
nice
01:01:26
Curt
So I'm kind of excited about that. just buts yeah it's It's fun just running dialed processes sometimes. um
01:01:31
jamie peacock
yes it is um well i plan on just sleeping to tonight uh tomorrow i am going to machine the ends of these molds i've been working on
01:01:32
Curt
But yeah, how about you? How about you? What are you up to aside from sleeping tonight?
01:01:44
jamie peacock
That gets them all done. I'm short of some drill bushes because the drill bush people are flipping illiterate and send stuff through Africa on a drunk donkey. at least that's what I assume. That's why it takes so long.
01:01:55
jamie peacock
But yeah, we'll get into that and how much I want to burn that place down in the after show. um And then going to chop some more wire tomorrow. And I've got a K110 job I don't really want to do on the lathe. But I guess I need to ah need to do before the guy starts asking too many questions.
01:02:10
jamie peacock
Also, I got my heat treating back for the anchor points, so I'm going to start grinding those at some point. At least this time, there's only comma one of a mil to come off, not comma five.
01:02:14
Curt
Nice.
01:02:17
Curt
Nice.
01:02:18
jamie peacock
Someone had a brain this time. But yeah, anyway, um thank you everybody for listening. ah If you enjoyed the podcast, please give us a like, rate, subscribe, whatever it is on your player of choice.
01:02:32
jamie peacock
um If you're on YouTube, you can always leave a comment. Those are quite entertaining. um We are on YouTube, po Apple Podcasts, and Spotify. If you enjoyed the podcast and you want to share it with someone, please do. Other than that, thank you very much for listening.
01:02:49
Curt
Take care all.