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jamie peacock: round two fight how are you doing this morning guys
Curt: I'm doing fantastic. How are you doing, man?
jamie peacock: good thanks so we had some technical issues there so we just restarted the recording uh hence the fun intro so yeah as i was saying in the previous recording uh the instagram post uh story seems to be back but with only one interaction so i don't know really weird i'm assuming someone is reporting
Curt: Oh, weird. Okay. So they...
jamie peacock: my goings ons because I've had posts go missing in the past or stories go missing in the past where I've gone to my archive and they're not there. ah What I did notice, it was stories around when I had my nephews in the workshop and then I would be ranting and raving.
Curt: Mm-hmm.
Curt: Oh.
jamie peacock: And then I'm assuming someone got offended on my nephew's behalf for the language I was using and reported it.
Curt: Of course, yeah. A busybody.
jamie peacock: Yeah. So as far as I'm concerned, they can go find a very tall bridge with no water under it and take the fast way down.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: but anyway, how are you doing today?
Curt: I'm doing pretty good. Yeah, I'm doing pretty good. ah I don't know. Production went well. Got my shop empty of things. So now I have to build more things. So I continue to, you know, continue on with this cycle and talk to you and keep my house lit with light heat and whatnot.
jamie peacock: Yep.
Curt: So yeah, it's enjoyable.
jamie peacock: It is nice to have light and heat. But yeah, I was watching your stories this week. you are got it to work, which is which is nice.
Curt: Oh, so pumped.
jamie peacock: We'll get into that one a bit later on.
Curt: Yeah, so pumped. And yeah, you look like you had a bit of a cluster.
jamie peacock: But yeah.
Curt: So I'm curious to see how that played out.
jamie peacock: had a delightful week.
Curt: ah
jamie peacock: Yeah. I sent off 22 bodies to anodizing for the anchor point.
Curt: And how many came back?
jamie peacock: And they came back. all Well, no, actually sorry, Allah 19 came back, I rejected three, they were gonna read i was like, Okay, well, this is what it is. I'm gonna reject these ones rework them on to see what the tolerance shift is when they do a rework.
jamie peacock: And then I came, came back and was like, Oh, let me let me see how they've moved in anodized because now I can actually accurately measure it.
Curt: Mm-hmm.
jamie peacock: Put the ball mark in on like, hang on. I'm like 99.99% sure that these things were on size. I'm pretty sure we discussed it that they were all within like five microns across the whole freaking range.
Curt: Yeah, yeah, i remember that.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Yeah, yeah.
jamie peacock: So I mark the one and i'm like, weird. It's comma one five of a millimeter oversize. I'm like, okay, kind of strange. Let me grab another one. And I'm like, is my ball mark out?
jamie peacock: So I check the calibration on the calibration ring. It's okay. So I grab a pin. take the pin and go, whee, and throw it, and it goes in the hole. So I'm like, okay.
Curt: know.
jamie peacock: So I grabbed the pin and I went to all 19 of them that I have, and all 19 of them are like that. So I proceeded to take the ball mark and measure the back balls for the Lang studs. Same thing, comma, one five over where they were when they left.
jamie peacock: So I phoned the guys and I'm like, ah please, can you explain what has happened here? And they can't explain it. One thing I did notice when I was there is that the the racking pins some of them looked like they had been stripped I was trying to figure out why because there's no reason for the pins to be stripped I supplied news new pins with this batch so I think at some point these things got stripped and
Curt: Okay.
Curt: Okay.
Curt: Oh, okay.
jamie peacock: I think they put them in the day or two after I dropped them off. The color wasn't right and they stripped them and reanodized them and did until they QC because I've been dealing with QC guy and as far as he knows, they were racked once and anodized once.
Curt: Right, right, right, right.
jamie peacock: He checked the cameras, but he obviously only checked the cameras when he knew they ran it. I think they stripped them, they ran them and then stripped them and then reran them. And now they're fancy paperweights.
Curt: Oh, shit.
jamie peacock: Well, at least until I make custom pins.
Curt: That sucks.
jamie peacock: But yeah, for now, fancy paperweights, which is very annoying considering they were meant to be on sale today.
Curt: Yeah, is there like, is there any saving the body, like other than making the pin?
jamie peacock: Yes. No, no, i can I can salvage the bodies. I can't salvage the bodies right now. um
Curt: Okay.
jamie peacock: I'm better off re-machining bodies and then having them not electro-polish them and having them only anodize them. So I was having them electropolish just to blend any machining marks.
Curt: Right, okay.
jamie peacock: And now it's going to go there and be anodized as is because the machining marks are fine. Like but you can see there's toolpaths, but there's not like this chatter or anything like that. So I'm just going to have them anodized and my holes can get smaller and then I can just use a bigger press to press pins in.
Curt: Right, yeah, safer way for sure, yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah. So yeah yeah, I mean, I did consider leaving everything like half a millimeter smaller. same process and then remachining it when it comes back. But that is, in my opinion, a tad on the risky side.
Curt: Well, and yeah, it's ah it's going...
jamie peacock: Because any mishandling you're going to ding the body like,
Curt: And it's going in a machine. like Like you said, as long as the machining marks on it look nice, like no one no one's going to care.
jamie peacock: yeah. Yeah, 100%.
Curt: like I'm going to be happy. If I buy a piece that's going to go in my machine and it looks like it was made on a machine and the machining marks look pretty, I'd be like yeah but and like, yeah, go nuts.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah. No, like this.
Curt: If it's all chowdery and chattery, no, but like...
jamie peacock: Yeah, no, but there's yeah there's literally ah the finishing passes on certain things are done in such a way that they look pretty.
Curt: Mm-hmm.
jamie peacock: Yeah, there's some dumb things I do to make it look really pretty.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: um So i was a little bit annoyed because that has put us behind schedule. Like my um my supplier for aluminium has a five-day wait or wait on cutting at the moment.
Curt: Yeah. ah
jamie peacock: So yeah, it's a little bit annoying. but is what it is Everything else is done for the batch, so almost done for the batch. So I just need to get the material for the bodies this week and spend another three days machining bodies.
jamie peacock: Because it's a literally three days worth of production.
Curt: Is the body machining, like, is it fairly is fairly dialed? Like, is it just basically pure machine time?
jamie peacock: Oh yeah, it's pretty dark.
Curt: OK.
jamie peacock: ah Yeah, pure machine time. I only have one pallet for it though, is little annoying. um But I think I ran them, i was keeping the machine running like 90% of the day. So machine stops, I'll swap out the...
Curt: Wow, OK.
jamie peacock: because I'm making an anchor point on an anchor point. So all the op ones will run through those, run one at a time through the vase, then they get stacked, and then they get bolted onto a fixture, dropped in the point, and I hit go.
Curt: Right, of course. Hmm.
jamie peacock: And now my process for that is it comes off, unbolt it, blow off excess coolant, put it on the shelf, load another one, put it in the machine, hit go, and then I do the little bit of cleaning and hand deburring that was still needing to be done. I've got a way around that now.
jamie peacock: um while the machine's running. So like my downtime, I think the OPT2 cycle is 47 minutes and the machine stops for less than two.
Curt: Oh, nice.
jamie peacock: So machine stops, I'm there, I swap the parts out.
Curt: Okay.
jamie peacock: Worst case, I tell it to notify me when the part's done and then we've stopped for a whole five minutes before it's running again.
Curt: Yeah. Oh, I mean, that's good, I guess.
jamie peacock: And I'm going to be picking up a hydraulic holder to try to a little bit better finish on the walls. Worst case, I rub it with scotch brough pad and it looks fine.
Curt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jamie peacock: That is also the option. I can scotch brough the sides before it goes to anodize. Like I used to hand sand parts before anodized them.
Curt: Right, yeah. No, it might be better than, yeah, the electro polishing. Especially if, exactly, if they're like, oh we'll just redo this.
jamie peacock: yeah
Curt: It's not going to matter. It's like, oh, no, now you just ruined everything.
jamie peacock: No, they have strict instructions never to rework my stuff. And I think someone reworked it and didn't tell anybody.
Curt: Yeah, yeah, that sounds the part.
jamie peacock: Which is a little bit, yeah, a little bit infuriating, but it is what it is. like I'm not, I'm going to convince them to credit me for this batch of anno and they can do the next two batches for free. But I know I'm not going to, I know I'm not going to get my money out of them for the material and the machining.
jamie peacock: So I'm not even going to try.
Curt: Yeah. Yeah, no, I think it's that's fairly...
jamie peacock: They're going to tell me to find another anodizer. And that was the response from a lot of the guys on Insta was just find another anodizer.
Curt: Yeah, see it.
jamie peacock: All anodizers are shit. These guys are the least shit. That's why I work with them.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Like shit happens.
Curt: Yeah, that's kind of what I've found.
jamie peacock: Yeah. Like shit happens.
Curt: yeah Yeah, well, that's...
jamie peacock: At least they're trying to figure out why and prevent it in future. So I'll be like, it's all you can ask for.
Curt: Well, and it's such a low, it's such a low priced like procedure and it's usually on finished parts. I get it. Like I get it why they don't they're like, whatever, you're only paying us, you know, a hundred bucks for this batch.
jamie peacock: yeah dude wait and wait yeah not even um yeah 22 parts so on this batch put this thing into uh dollars on this batch i paid one dollar 89 per part
Curt: So it's like, yeah, so.
Curt: That's yeah, that's nuts.
jamie peacock: them to scrap it for me like yeah it's silly it's silly cheap and you can understand like so i item went there they were like listen can you come through we got a few parts we're not sure about the finish on i went through i'm like okay here is the finished part these are the a surfaces everything else i don't i literally don't give a about so we're going to change the way it's being racked well to prevent some runs that we're having on the front of the on the top of the part and
Curt: Like.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: The holes they're using, drawing I'm going to give them a drawing. This is how it needs to be racked to prevent every possible issue that I can foresee with anodizing. Short of anodizing myself, that's the best I can do.
Curt: Yeah, yeah.
jamie peacock: And I don't want to be in the business of running anodize for a living.
Curt: Yeah, yeah, no, exactly.
jamie peacock: No.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: It's really, it's not fun. And the consistency won't be there. So yeah, right now I have paperweights, which will probably get made into mooring points and harbors, just because then the langston size doesn't actually matter, um and the step pins will solve that problem.
Curt: Right.
Curt: Right, right, right, right.
jamie peacock: Yeah, so.
Curt: Bummer.
jamie peacock: But yeah, we'll get on to high precision turning at some point, because I have a plan to use silver steel, rough the pins, send them for heat treat, and then hard turn them to final diameter, and then use an angle grinder to cut them off of the bar stock.
jamie peacock: So i do a piece of bar stock with a pin on each end. That way when a hard turn, I assume it's concentric because I'm doing it one setting and then grind it off, grind the back then press them in.
Curt: Okay, okay.
jamie peacock: A little annoying, but I mean, it is what it is.
Curt: Yeah, I guess.
jamie peacock: It's a work, it's a work round for now.
Curt: so let's Yeah.
jamie peacock: Like there's not much I can do. i ah definitely want to keep the standard pitch and size across all anchor points. So yeah, that's where the tricky bit comes in.
Curt: Yeah, totally.
jamie peacock: But yeah, so, yeah, a bit of a bummer, but anyway, on a positive note, how was your screwing around this week?
Curt: Oh, bummer.
Curt: Am I screwing around? ah conversely to your start of the week, whatever it went fantastically well. Um, I, I had like 19 different things I was going to change with the process. And I was like, you know what? I have to be a good, a good little boy and change one thing at a time.
Curt: I ended up actually changing three things at once, just not even thinking about it. Cause I'm like, Oh, let's put in a new tool holder and I'll use my existing tool.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Um, and I'll run it. And then i realized I had slightly changed one of the, the finishing profile. I had changed a tool holder, which is the main thing I wanted to change. And then I also added a kind of a roughing stage in there.
jamie peacock: yeah
Curt: And i was like, I shouldn't added all these at once. um But it worked out. um I machined every single blank I had on one tool, which normally was blowing up after like 10 or 12 screws. um So I machined, I don't like 40 or 50 screws um without issue.
jamie peacock: and
jamie peacock: yeah all three
Curt: So it's one of those things work either the, which I think it's, I honestly think it's, I, Yeah, i don't I don't think all three are playing together, honestly. I think the roughing stage I added, like it comes in with a 1.32 to rough out.
Curt: It's a T8's torque pocket in the top of my screws for the on unfamiliar.
jamie peacock: friggin tiny yeah
Curt: It's fairly small. um So I come in with 1.32 to, after I drill it all out, I come in with a 1.32 to rough it out, which honestly doesn't take much because those little points on a Torx are fairly tiny. So even a 1.32 diameter tool can't really get far into there.
jamie peacock: yeah
Curt: um But I thought maybe if it just relieved enough of it, it would ah it would help. And then I ah spiral down with a 15 thou end mill, which is like a 0.3, 0.35 millimeter. um
jamie peacock: yeah as you say spiral that's just following the the torques pattern okay using a ramp or using a contour okay using a contour with a ramp yeah okay yeah yeah just ramps
Curt: And I just spiral all the way down.
Curt: Yeah, following the profile on the inside and just goes down. um Using a ramp, yeah. ah
Curt: A contour with a ramp, yeah. it's It's constant engagement. Like there's no there's no Zed step. It's just the Z is slowly moving down.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: And it only takes, it's taking a thou shit, like a thou depth to cut every pass around. Um, and it's basically, it's making dust and as fast as I can push it.
jamie peacock: OK, so making dust.
Curt: Cause you tiny tools, you don't get a lot of sva SFM out of them.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Um, so it takes a while, but it's been reliable. So I can't bitch.
jamie peacock: What RPM would you but you running at?
Curt: Um,
Curt: 16,000 just because it's going to run like for eight hours.
jamie peacock: Nice.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: So I could probably run it at like my meal can do 18,000 and you can probably spike up to 20,000 if you want to. But i was like, I'll save the bearings. I'll just, I'll run an 80% and just let it be happier.
jamie peacock: does Does your machine have a chiller?
Curt: No, it doesn't.
jamie peacock: Oh, okay, that makes a difference.
Curt: Nope. So, yeah, I don't want and want to cook them.
jamie peacock: Mine does. Yeah.
Curt: And I don't care.
jamie peacock: Yeah, no, no, 100%.
Curt: Like, if it if it lasts, or if it runs 20%, like, if it runs, instead of running for an hour to do a pallet of screws, it runs for an hour and 15 minutes. Like, I don't care.
jamie peacock: Yeah, no, 100%.
Curt: Like, I'm probably not going to be here when it's running.
jamie peacock: Doesn't matter. Yeah.
Curt: Yeah, so.
jamie peacock: No, 100%.
Curt: Yeah, so anyways, was super pleased to get that done.
jamie peacock: but Yeah.
Curt: So, but.
jamie peacock: Yeah, at least you got this got that somewhat dialed.
Curt: Yeah, well, I have no screws. So that's problem. is like, I can't build the next batch of pens.
jamie peacock: Yeah, you have to.
Curt: And like, I have to get it done. And I get order more from the States, but I just, I don't want to. Like, I just don't want to order more screws.
jamie peacock: Yeah, no.
Curt: And mine are better now.
jamie peacock: Yeah, speaking of...
Curt: Like, the unfortunate part is mine mine are better than the ones I have made on like a nice Swiss with live tooling.
jamie peacock: Oh, there we go.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Like, his screws he makes me are really nice. But this is tie connector screws. I'm very pleased with the screws.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: They're beautiful, but they're not as nice because... That's not his business. Like, I mean, his business is making screws. They should be nicer, quite honestly.
jamie peacock: Yes.
Curt: um But they're just, they're made for, they're made at a price, I guess. Like, it just, they're not as nice.
jamie peacock: Yeah, they're made to a price. No, 100%.
Curt: Yeah, like the Torx, like he drills it bigger. So when he mills out the Torx, like that you don't have as much engagement on the driver. Whereas like the ones I made have full engagement on the driver.
jamie peacock: Okay. You want proper.
Curt: So like you can crank them as hard as you want and you'll break the thread and the drive will be perfect.
jamie peacock: Okay, yeah, fair enough.
Curt: um Whereas his, i'll break the I'll break the drive before I break the thread. anyway.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Net picky.
jamie peacock: Yeah, speaking of talk screws, I ordered some from from the UK on Wednesday afternoon. They said they'd be on Friday. They were not.
jamie peacock: Well, they were. Technically, they were. They were in the country on Friday. Then UPS happened.
Curt: Uh-oh.
jamie peacock: UPS like to hold your parcel until day nine and then send you an invoice, hoping you don't pay and they can charge you storage fees. But anyway, I got my invoice from them today. 30% duty on freaking screws.
jamie peacock: I'm assuming it's because we make them locally.
Curt: Oh,
jamie peacock: Good luck buying a Torx screw in South Africa.
Curt: ah yeah.
jamie peacock: Good luck! I challenge anybody in South Africa to find me where I can buy a Torx countersink screw.
Curt: Hmm.
jamie peacock: Because you cannot. I have tried. I've been told, no, it's too special. So anyway, i buy them from... from the from the uk from accu um some smart illiterates ordered 50 screws so i'm making 20 things they use two screws each i'll just order 50 screws 40 i've got 10 spares uh turns out the thing uses four screws so i had half as many screws as i needed so i ordered 400 screws from them on wednesday and then got bent over sideways because the shipping from them is
Curt: Uh
Curt: oh.
jamie peacock: just on $60. So it was $60 worth of screws $60 shipping, and then $60 import duties.
Curt: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah, like, it was a rough and they arrived tomorrow.
Curt: yeah
jamie peacock: So then I can go deliver that job finished.
Curt: ah
jamie peacock: Yeah, it was it was very, very rough. But I mean, yeah I haven't been sharing much on Instagram because I've been polishing molds all day. um And not really meant to share the mold stuff I'm doing. So
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: it ran fine lots of sand yeah quite a bit of sanding i probably spent like four hours today sanding them six molds so not too bad fingers and my shoulders are sore but six hours you know six molds yeah i've got uh two more cavities coming and'm waiting for material those are 400 by 600 millimeters yeah those are the ones that are going to run all night yeah they're running through the night
Curt: Oh, yeah?
Curt: Hmm.
Curt: Ooh. Oh. OK, six molds. That's not bad. Yeah. Yeah. OK.
Curt: OK. Big boys.
Curt: Gotcha.
jamie peacock: So yeah, waiting for that material to arrive and then waiting for Tufnel to arrive. They're going to set up with with the vacuum chuck and run through all that stuff in one file sweep. Because I need the the vacuum chuck to actually do that that job.
jamie peacock: But that's all got to be done by the end of the month. So waiting on my aluminum supplier. They're also delivering the last bits and bobs for the anchor points. And then I think I might just run those like through the night quickly get the the backers and the toe clamps done.
jamie peacock: So that I'm not waiting on any on anything really for the anchor point.
Curt: Gotcha.
jamie peacock: Because yeah, then well, then it's just bodies then as soon as I'm done with the tuft and whatnot, I can run bodies or if I can get material for the bodies quickly enough, I can slip it in front of the queue.
Curt: Yeah, that sense.
jamie peacock: But I don't think I'm going to be that lucky.
Curt: Yeah. Yeah.
jamie peacock: But anyway, yeah, I'm waiting on cutters as well, coming from China.
Curt: Oh.
jamie peacock: Long reach 1mm ball noses. They should be arriving shortly.
Curt: Oh, OK.
jamie peacock: ah
Curt: the work? Oh, OK. for the mold worker
jamie peacock: ah Yeah, for the big moulds, there's a 1mm radius, because Roger. Oh, 0.5 radius. don't know. It was a sharp corner, but he knows better than that.
jamie peacock: So I've got some ball noses coming in, so I can just surface those little things. So everything gets surfaced with 4mm, and that'll get surfaced with a Much more than one more. I might be able to use a six millimeter ball nose on this job.
Curt: Yeah, yeah.
jamie peacock: going to see because that'll cut cycle time significantly. Although at this point I've charged for the cycle time. um But yeah um I'm supplying polished molds because it's easier than convincing Fusion to do what I want. It's easier to just sand the bloody mold.
Curt: yeah yeah yeah
jamie peacock: ah job It really isn't too bad. I hit it with some 600 grit, then I hit it with 1,500 grits, and then I bought a rubber buffing compound wheel block thing that you give it a rub with, and it gives a nice smooth finish.
jamie peacock: If they want shinier than that, well, they can sand it.
Curt: Hmm.
Curt: Hmm.
jamie peacock: like it's all nicely blended and because i did have a little bit of inconsistency i noticed um because i i increased my step over and then i was noticing there were some sections where it's you can't feel it but you can see it and it looks like it might have just been a following arrow over the curve
Curt: Well, I guess...
Curt: Hmm. Hmm.
jamie peacock: Because it'll be it'll be good.
Curt: Hmm.
jamie peacock: It'll be the same, same, same. You can see it's a little bit higher in one section, little bit lower another. So I know if it's got to do with how Fusion's putting out the points, or if it's just the machine being the the machine.
Curt: Are you running like a cycle 832 or whatever?
jamie peacock: Oof.
jamie peacock: No.
Curt: Okay. I wonder if that's it.
jamie peacock: I wasn't, because I've tried fighting with that for like all of 10 minutes and then gave up.
Curt: Oh, really?
jamie peacock: Yeah, like I actually need to do it because my roughing cycles are fucking jittery as hell because I'm going quite fast on the roughing cycles.
Curt: hu
Curt: Yeah, yeah.
jamie peacock: So I would like to actually mess around with that. But I tried to output it from Fusion and the controller wasn't happy with me. and I can't remember why. I did mess around with it for a little bit. But that actually brings up, I wanted to ask you about your tool break detect macros.
jamie peacock: Are you just using the built-in tool break detect cycle on your machine or what are you doing for tool break detects?
Curt: ah The built-in and I'm not even messing with it yet. So it's a it's unknown if it works or not.
jamie peacock: Okay.
jamie peacock: Okay. Because, yeah, if you want, I'll send you my code, my TBD code. um I do need to add some extra functionality, or I need to modify my post, one of the two.
jamie peacock: So either i need to modify my post that at the beginning of every operation, it will add in whatever the work coordinate set is. Because i mean I know we discussed this a while ago where I went and a tool break detect between operations with the same tool and nearly crashed.
jamie peacock: because my yeah because I changed to G598 so that I can wrap it above the tool set and then just boop it instead of waiting a month of Sundays for it to come down.
Curt: yeah, yeah.
Curt: Right.
jamie peacock: um
Curt: Yep.
jamie peacock: Yeah, I've got that little script. I would like to store the current work offset. I just have not bothered reading enough manuals to do that. It's one of those things that it's not super critical, so I haven't done it.
Curt: Yeah, no, totally.
Curt: yeah no totally
jamie peacock: Like, yeah, you know how it goes. Find other more exciting things to do.
Curt: Yeah, well, i know when I dropped the, um like when I had those issues with the fourth axis, they sent me a brand new like PLC to load into the control to like change everything.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: And they're like, okay, move the machine to its machine zeros or like make sure it's at machine zeros because you're like, you're going to reset the control and it's going to reset everything.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: um But then after I did that procedure, my ah tool touch off macro just throws those alarms at me. It's like access over travel or something.
jamie peacock: Oh, shit. OK.
Curt: I'm like, oh shit. So it's it's something, but I've already like, and same thing before I did this, I envisioned this might happen. So I made sure I had like,
jamie peacock: Yep.
Curt: the yeah
jamie peacock: Solid backups.
Curt: I used one of my offsets and just like put my offset where the tool.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: So was like, OK, I can do this manually if I need to. um But yeah, it just it killed all the automated processes.
jamie peacock: yeah
Curt: And I just haven't gotten that gotten around to fixing it yet.
jamie peacock: yeah hasn't been urgent enough to fix it speaking of x5s with fourth axis do you follow noddy prof noddy performance hang on let me not ruin his name um noddy yeah noddy's performance no noddy's performance on instagram
Curt: So eventually. Yeah.
Curt: Mm-hmm.
Curt: Naughty performance. Like, OK. I'll look it up, too. yeah
Curt: Like naughty spell like ah like a bad girl?
jamie peacock: no D y s performance
Curt: Oh, okay, never mind. Or bad boy. Naughty performance. Okay, whatever your flavor is.
jamie peacock: yeah dude Ozzy made I okay I thought it wasn't dude dude dude look at his most recent Instagram post quickly
Curt: Okay, sweet. Now I follow him. Ozzy made CNC products.
Curt: Oh, sick. oh he's got a little... Oh, I'm going to shake this guy's fucking tree. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
jamie peacock: There will be a link to this in the show notes for anyone else who wants to follow along. He goes, dude, I didn't realize. I thought he was following me. um Turns out he wasn't. So I liked his story.
jamie peacock: He started following me and I messaged him. I'm like, dude, if it's dumb and it works, it isn't dumb.
Curt: Oh, he's got the whole fifth act or the fourth axis canted over on the table on the X5.
jamie peacock: Yep.
Curt: Oh, I'm going to shake this dude's tree.
jamie peacock: Yep. Dude.
Curt: i have I have questions for him.
jamie peacock: Brilliant. Dude. Oh, no, no. He makes ah ah um What's it a jet ski engine, bullet jet ski engine on his X5 and his lathe literally bolts it to the turret and line balls it with his lathe.
Curt: Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.
jamie peacock: The Soak is a magician.
Curt: Oh. Oh, I like this guy's content. Oh, I'm going to binge the shit out of this tonight.
jamie peacock: Yeah, no dude, I've been following him for years.
Curt: Okay.
jamie peacock: For some reason, I thought he was in the UK.
Curt: Okay.
jamie peacock: Obviously never read his profile. But yeah, Link will be date will definitely be in the in the show notes because worth checking out.
Curt: Cool.
jamie peacock: His work is amazing.
Curt: No doubt. i want to see what control he has on that five.
jamie peacock: yeah I don't think it's the Siemens it's it's old he's had his machine for years I think it's probably the Sintec or the don't think it's GSK
Curt: he has a Siemens, I really have to bug him. Probably not. Never is. Hmm.
Curt: Oh, wow. Yeah, he's got cool shit. Okay, I will quit looking at this. That's cool.
jamie peacock: yeah no yeah no I think I might just hit him ah hit him up and say listen really we mentioned you quite thoroughly in the podcast
Curt: You're doing cool work, my dude. If you ever listen to this, you're doing cool work.
jamie peacock: But yeah, his stuff like dude that I saw that I just giggled because I was literally discussing doing that with a customer this week or last week.
Curt: That's cool. Yeah, that's cool.
jamie peacock: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, if it's dumb and it works, it isn't dumb.
Curt: Speaking of people doing cool work, I just listened to the latest ah oh with Intolerance.
jamie peacock: but
jamie peacock: What's up?
Curt: No, with ah the guy that runs Caffatech. Or maybe, sorry, it wasn't the most recent. It was the second most recent. ah He does, like, custom, no, he does custom ah coffee grinders, like, for espresso.
jamie peacock: With Dave Brassass. No.
jamie peacock: Oh, yes. Yeah, no, that was really good.
Curt: Oh, that's a good episode.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Anyways, his, yeah, go check out his Instagram too. He's got, they're so pretty. I want, I want one. I like coffees. I'm a big coffee nerd and I really like his work, but yeah, he's been talking about all kinds of cool stuff.
jamie peacock: Danica straight up gonna swear at me when she eats the stock.
Curt: And
Curt: but you can't spell it You can't spell it like that.
jamie peacock: I spelt it incorrectly on purpose to annoy my wife.
Curt: Okay. Okay.
jamie peacock: The South Africans will know where went with this, but hopefully no one else will.
Curt: i
jamie peacock: ah
Curt: I'm not even it' South African and I know that one. So yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah. Kyrdallika's going swear at me in the morning. It's going to great. um Yeah, no, that was like a really good episode as well. So i was one with Zap and the one before.
Curt: They're
jamie peacock: There's been some killer content lately.
Curt: all good. No doubt, yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Dylan is crushing it.
jamie peacock: Yeah, no, definitely.
Curt: So, yeah.
jamie peacock: And thank you to Dylan.
Curt: Thank you for the...
jamie peacock: He's one of our ah patrons.
Curt: Yeah, well, thanks for the entertainment.
jamie peacock: Yes.
Curt: like I love when people have interesting people to talk to.
jamie peacock: Yes.
Curt: and it's Yeah, it's super super cool to hear people's story. and Yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah. Speaking of, our next episode is guest episode.
Curt: It's good.
jamie peacock: So we will pull some strings behind the scenes and make that happen.
Curt: Ooh.
jamie peacock: But yeah, you guys can expect a guest.
Curt: Cool.
jamie peacock: We have some people somewhat lined up. We'll go rattle trees this week. and then yeah actually got a message from one of them before the podcast asked if we did a q and a this week uh we didn't do a q and a this week but we did one last week and some questions came in a bit after the thing so before we get to the q and a want to shout out our patreons
Curt: Cool, yeah, I'm excited.
jamie peacock: ah Because we have a patron for the show. It makes the wheels on the show go round and round. And big shout out all our patrons. Thank you very much. And an especially big shout out to Jake from Benchmark20 and Luke from Fabtastic.
jamie peacock: They're at the top tier. If you want to get a shout out, you can join and you'll get a shout out. And then if you want to keep getting shouted out, you can join in one of the higher tiers. that's ah Patreon is there to, well, recoup Zencaster being thieves.
jamie peacock: ah And then also to get a new camera. And IMTS happens next year, then it's going towards us having a joel there. We'll convince Kurt to come with, even though he says he doesn't want to.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: We'll make him.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: We'll fly to Canada and drag him.
Curt: No, I'll send a robot. that That's the next step that's going to happen. Anyways, carrying on.
jamie peacock: ye Anyway, um yeah, so we did a Q&A last week um on Instagram, which I have now managed to successfully lose on my phone. I had it open, and then EJ sent me a message.
jamie peacock: He is busy, i don't know. many of you follow EJ in internal welding?
Curt: Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah, yeah, he's driving the struggle bus hard.
Curt: All right. All
jamie peacock: Hard, yeah.
Curt: Oh, sorry.
jamie peacock: Yeah. Yeah, it's a bit rough. He's doing some subtract parts. Speaking of, if you guys are looking to have parts made, check out Subtract Manufacturing. They make parts, kind of like Xometry, but all domestic in the US.
jamie peacock: A bunch of small shops together, so they can be more than the sum of their parts. But yeah, check them out.
Curt: oh sorry
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: I wasn't following him, so... Sorry, my dude.
jamie peacock: Oh, okay.
Curt: i'm following I'm following you now. I thought I was. You just come across my feet enough, I guess.
jamie peacock: Yeah, I know he listens, but yeah, he just messaged me now.
Curt: Yeah. There we go.
jamie peacock: He scrapped the parts for the third time. He's really struggling with these parts. Like, they keep moving.
Curt: Oh.
jamie peacock: It's two pieces that get welded together and then machined. And yeah, I think it's driving him bit crazy.
Curt: ah Oh.
jamie peacock: Well, I don't know if you follow this guy. I know you know him. Ringinator.
Curt: Ringinator?
jamie peacock: Yes.
Curt: How do I not...
jamie peacock: Hang on, though.
Curt: It doesn't ring a bell. ah
jamie peacock: Nice.
Curt: Welcome to our podcast where we just call out people continuously for the entire show.
jamie peacock: Yeah, pretty much. That is the podcast. Sorry, just looking through to see if this is the person I think it is. Martin.
jamie peacock: Oh, no, different person. Okay, anyway. Ringinator asked us, what is your favorite flavor of mustard?
Curt: ah You go first.
jamie peacock: Very important questions. German mustard.
Curt: yeah
jamie peacock: Duh. What else can have with a frickin' Brockforst?
Curt: Okay. Yeah, fair enough. yeah um um' so I like all mustards, honestly.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Honey mustards, Dijons.
jamie peacock: hate Dijon mustard. That shit can just get thrown out the window. And the one with the little Borlickies can also just get yeeted out the window.
Curt: like it all.
Curt: Good to me, too. Whatever works.
jamie peacock: i Okay. And then ah more on topic. um This one, I assume, is aimed more at me from Charles Watt.
jamie peacock: Are there any weird laws around manufacturing in SA or exporting manufactured products? ah No. There are fancy things called tariffs that some big Cheeto keeps changing.
jamie peacock: But, yeah, other than that, there's nothing specific. We do kind of get a bit of VAT exemption or tax exemption, apparently, if I'm exporting goods because it's bringing your money into the country, allegedly. So,
jamie peacock: Anyway, need to look into that.
Curt: Mm-hmm.
jamie peacock: But yeah, as far as I know, there's nothing. ah yeah There's no there's no special legal things. And then another question from Charles was, ah what's your opinion about fusion manager or fusion operations?
jamie peacock: And would you ever invest in those? I don't know what Fusion manages. I'm assuming Fusion manage and Fusion operations are aimed at people who have large groups of people designing things to help with basically branching designs and things to that effect.
jamie peacock: I see Kurt going for the mouse, so assume he's quickly Googling it.
Curt: Yeah. I have no idea either, so sorry, I can't.
jamie peacock: yeah Yeah, I'm assuming that's got more to do with...
Curt: Nope.
jamie peacock: large operations. like I think both guys are one man shops with no real intentions of adding people to our ah fusion. So yeah, not really something we
Curt: Nope.
jamie peacock: we look at using. I mean, we used to use Fusion where I used to work. If i was logged into file, now the other guys couldn't log into it. It was what it was. We had a folder called Work Any Work Work, which I actually still owned until I moved to Fusion Hubs.
jamie peacock: I hadn't worked there for six years and I still owned all their designs on my Fusion account. It was great.
Curt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jamie peacock: the yeah Their infrastructure was hilarious. um
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Kind of curious if Joshua actually found his adjustable wrench from last week. I guess I'd have to mention, I'd have to message him. He was making T-nuts for his turret this morning.
Curt: I saw that. Yeah, they're pretty.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: they're Yeah, they're pretty peanuts.
jamie peacock: Yeah. No, they look friggin' spiffy. Curved T-nuts. Yeah. Interesting way of attaching a turret.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: But anyway.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Alright, cool. So yeah, sorry. Thought I'd get that out of the way before we forget about it and get distracted as we tend to do.
Curt: Mm-hmm.
jamie peacock: um Yeah, so what is... ah I'm sorry, I'm busy reading things. I'm very good at reading. um Yeah, what's cooking with your four taxes?
Curt: So I'm still trying to like, I don't know if I, I mentioned a long while ago that like when it does its profiling, like let's say I'm i'm cutting ah a shape on a round tube that I'm rotating in the fourth and then moving back and forth in X.
jamie peacock: Yes.
Curt: um i'm yeah I'm seeing like a ah movement from where it should be. Like let's say if I cut a perfect triangle, if I want to put a triangle over like for one of my iso grip patterns, if I want to put a triangle over a rotated tube, I'm seeing it kind of skew like convex in one direction.
Curt: let's Let's say the diagonal of the triangle.
Curt: This is getting complicated.
jamie peacock: Sorry, trying to figure out... con Okay, yeah, yeah, sure.
Curt: Imagine a triangle. You have one straight line, which is just like a pure X move. And then you have two, you have two 45s.
jamie peacock: Sure.
Curt: If you want to think of it that way, you kind of go up to the point or so yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah, 60s, but sure.
Curt: Yeah. One 20 sixties, whatever you go up to the point, you come back down to the point.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: um Those two lines, which are, if you were doing them on a three axis machine, they would involve your X and Y moving together to, to make the diagonal.
jamie peacock: Yes.
Curt: on a rotary, it's moving the X and it's rotating the fourth. And that's how you get your diagonal line.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: So the thing I'm seeing is one side of that like that diagonal is is bulged out and the other side is bulged in. And if I change the direction of travel, I climb to conventional, it swaps.
Curt: So that just, to me, it means that the rotary isn't moving fast enough. Like it it's hitting the points. The end points are perfect, but it's accelerating too slowly in comparison to the X, which is weird because it should be synced perfectly.
jamie peacock: Okay.
Curt: um Just, you know, the the control should know that.
jamie peacock: It should be, yes. Is it not? It's not doing it's not doing some weird center point thing.
Curt: No, no, I've disabled center point just for that reason. Cause I was like, well, maybe it's doing something bizarre, but no, it's, it's. And the thing is, if I slow it way down, I slowed it down to 1%. Um, so like it cuts at about, uh, this specific cuts moving at about 40 inches per minute, which is well within the realms of all the axes.
jamie peacock: Oh, that's a decent speed. Yeah, that's a decent speed.
Curt: Yeah. But even the rotary, like if I back calculate the rotary,
jamie peacock: Yeah, should be... able Yeah, no, like... It should be fine.
Curt: It goes, ah the rotary can do 100 and like 107 or 120 inches per minute, no problem, at that diameter because it's diameter related.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: But if I slow it way down, so it's going at like two inches per minute, it cuts perfectly. Like it cuts the diagonals dead square. Everything is perfect. And as I was like keep speeding up, it starts to it starts to get out of, sorry, diagonal and in line.
jamie peacock: Well, if your diagonal's square, we've got problems, but yeah I get what you're saying.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah, no, it makes it a straight line. ah Is that not got something to do with the G822? Or whatever that code was, you spouted at me earlier?
Curt: I, uh, 832, the G, the cycle 832 on a Siemens.
jamie peacock: the The smoothing.
Curt: Yeah. The smoothing, it should be, I'm running smoothing and it's running like for that operation, it's running two tenths tolerance to path. So that shouldn't be it.
jamie peacock: Okay.
Curt: Um, and it also in Siemens, you group axes, you can group your X and your fourth together.
jamie peacock: And that, yeah.
Curt: I think it's something in there.
jamie peacock: Okay, so they move in sync here.
Curt: I sent a message just, yeah, Sile they're like, your code is perfect.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: They're like, um,
jamie peacock: um
Curt: like They're like, are you using a tailstock?
jamie peacock: Out of curiosity.
Curt: I'm like, what do you mean a tailstock? Get lost. So anyways, I'm going to come on my own for this.
jamie peacock: Yeah. um Just out curiosity on that, if you enable points in Fusion, how many points are you using to drive that line? Is it start and end or is it a bunch of points along the line?
Curt: It's a bunch of points along the line. Yeah.
jamie peacock: OK, just checking because that that would be something if it's front end, front point and back point.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: there could be some weirdness going on. But if it's multiple points along, I can't see it wouldn't hit all those points.
Curt: You know what? That's a good point to just, I should repost it with just like three points of a triangle. Cause then it would, it should spit out just one line of code, even though it's like in inverse time code, it should be one line of code that handles it.
jamie peacock: One line of Yeah.
Curt: day Yeah, that's a good point. I should try that. Cause I wonder and if, wonder if something kooky is going on there.
jamie peacock: Yeah. It would be interesting to see what it does, because that would tell you if there's some backlash comp or something in hidden somewhere. Because when you say you go conventional to um to climb and it mirrors it, that says to me that there's backlash comp happening somewhere that is not needed.
Curt: Yeah.
Curt: Yeah, that's a good point. really considered that.
jamie peacock: I wouldn't be surprised if there was backlash comp on the either backlash on the rotary or backlash comp enabled on the rotary that doesn't need to be there.
Curt: Mm-hmm.
Curt: Yeah, that's a good point, too.
jamie peacock: Because if, yeah, yeah, then would lean on, yeah, that's weird.
Curt: Because, yeah, and it's perfect like, it repeats perfectly. So it's it's something related. And like, hmm. And it but it's speed dependent, which is weird. Unless, it doesn't matter.
jamie peacock: Yeah, that is also, yeah, that's kind of creepy.
Curt: It's
jamie peacock: But yeah, that's interesting that it's doing that.
Curt: yeah Yeah, and I don't know why, like...
jamie peacock: Like, yeah, a fun a fun thing to try and problem solve.
Curt: Well, and everybody should be encountering this. Like, it's not like... Like, it's not... I'm not chasing a 2,000 path deviation. Like, this deviation is like 20,000.
jamie peacock: No, it's clearly visible.
Curt: Like, it's visible. um
jamie peacock: Yeah, that's, yeah, that's very weird.
Curt: Yeah, so something's up. Something's up. don't know what it is.
jamie peacock: Yeah, that I would be very curious see what happens when you do it with less points.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: But even still, like if it's hitting all the points, I would expect it to be better than Yeah, it it sounds like some kind of compensation to me.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: um
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Just because it's bowing the way you describing it. It's when it's going this way. And when it's going opposite direction, it's the opposite. That leads me to think it's some kind of compensation going on.
Curt: Totally. Yeah.
Curt: Yeah. And you could like, imagine if I could watch it in slow motion, I would see the, the, like if I could somehow see where both axes should be, I would see the, the fourth axis initially lag and then it would catch up in the, and then it would catch up by the end.
Curt: So it's like, Hmm.
jamie peacock: I'm assuming you're watching the the controller while this is running.
Curt: It's a quick operation, but yeah, I am. But I mean, like every line, it's going through like many lines of code.
jamie peacock: I would... And there's no funny Y axis happening there.
Curt: No, no y-axis at all.
jamie peacock: Okay, to just making sure that it's not like doing some weird shit with the axis that you're not expecting and you haven't noticed, but you wouldn't have not noticed that.
Curt: Yeah.
Curt: Yeah.
Curt: Yeah, no, I stripped it out just to make sure make sure it doesn't even post y-axis.
jamie peacock: Okay.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Okay, no, no, because that I mean, that is another option that Fusion's doing some weird shit and trying to compensate for something and pushing the Y, and that would also add some funny movements.
Curt: Yeah, buts that's a good point. Yeah, that's good one. Yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah, you never know.
Curt: Like said, you slow...
jamie peacock: That's problem. you You should not code out a Fusion and assume it's right.
Curt: Yeah, well, that's the thing is you slow it right down. It's perfect. So I'm like, hmm, it's something. It's something weird. Like, so, yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah, that's a really weird, because I know my machine will, if I try to tell it to go interpret a bore at 10 millimeters diameter and tell it to go freaking 48 meters a minute, it's going to do like 900 millimeters a minute because that's as fast as it can accurately hit all the points.
Curt: Yeah, totally. Yeah, exactly.
jamie peacock: So I know they will slow themselves down to hit your smoothing tolerance and you obviously not anywhere near that point.
Curt: Yeah.
Curt: Yeah. So it's, like said, it's something dumb.
jamie peacock: um
Curt: It's just, that's a problem.
jamie peacock: Yeah, your tool's bending out of the way.
Curt: I wish. I wish it was something simple. Like, you know what? No, it wouldn't be. because ah No, because it's not changing the cut direction. If it was doing that, it would do it on both axes.
Curt: Like if I'm pocketing, it the tool is always seeing the cutting load on on the whatever, the incoming side of the cut.
jamie peacock: No.
jamie peacock: you've got a triangle and you're going this way, Kurt, it's going to push down towards me. And when you come back this way it's going to push up towards me because the material is the opposite side of it.
Curt: have to think about this.
jamie peacock: Your cutter is bending out of the way
jamie peacock: because it's touching on the opposite wall.
Curt: I can't... I can't see it.
jamie peacock: Oh, no, no. It would both be inwards. No, no, you're It would both be inwards.
Curt: Well, and, like, there's a finishing pass of, like, 2,000.
jamie peacock: Yeah, fair enough.
Curt: So, like...
jamie peacock: Yeah, okay.
Curt: Anyway.
jamie peacock: So it's not your cutter bending out of the way.
Curt: I'll figure it out. It's just... No. And I've known about it forever, and I've been trying to fix it forever. And, like I said, I have been talking to Sile, and they're like, I don't know, everything looks perfect.
jamie peacock: yeah
Curt: like I'm like, well, haven't you encountered this before? Like, this isn't... Eh. Eh.
jamie peacock: yeah there shouldn't be something new but uh yeah yeah all fun stuff um yeah like that's really really weird because i yeah that's really really it seems like to me it seems like a backlash type thing or something
Curt: Whatever. Language. Yeah, language barriers. I'm sure they're sick of talking to me after all the fourth axis jargons. It's like, all right.
Curt: It's bizarre.
Curt: Yeah, yeah.
jamie peacock: Or, yeah, i don't know. Or the acceleration profile is not right on your, on the fourth.
Curt: Yeah, but either way, it should time it.
jamie peacock: That it's, yeah, it should.
Curt: like so the The controller should still... It should time it, even if the...
jamie peacock: Should still, because it knows where the motor is. And yeah, that's the point of a closed-loop CNC controller, is that it knows what's going on.
Curt: Yeah, see.
Curt: Even if it's going slow. Yeah, it would be like, oh, I'll just have to slow the X down to to keep up with the the fourth or vice versa.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah, that's, that's strange.
Curt: um I'll crack it. I know I'll crack it. It's just...
jamie peacock: But yeah, anyway.
Curt: Yeah. Glad I don't depend on it right now.
jamie peacock: Yeah, so.
jamie peacock: yeah no good thing that you don't depend on right now because it's a yeah being a soul
Curt: Yeah, but, I mean, tis the risk you take when you buy a, quote, budget machine, so.
jamie peacock: yes yeah well that's yeah that's exactly it ah yeah anyway uh you remember little wire chopper that I made
Curt: Yeah.
Curt: I did, yeah, i saw but I saw that story this morning.
jamie peacock: Yeah, remember I struggled the last time to do 15 kgs of wire and I melted the MIG feeder?
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah, just built an extruder for like a 3D printer, type extruder on a NEMA 23 motor with a MIG wire gear that I had wire cut open.
Curt: Yeah.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: I've run 45 kilos in two days.
Curt: I was amazed how fast that ah fast that reel was spinning.
jamie peacock: It takes three and a half hours. Yeah. i So i put I put a frequency thingy on my phone. it's ah the The cutting is happening at...
jamie peacock: ah It was 24 hertz, so 1,440 strokes per minute.
Curt: ah Wow.
jamie peacock: yeah
Curt: Wow. That's cooking along.
jamie peacock: It just goes and runs. So I run through that roll in three and half hours through a 15 kg roll.
Curt: but
Curt: Wow.
jamie peacock: yeah know It's zooming along now. I'm going to do another 15 kg roll tomorrow.
Curt: Cool.
jamie peacock: yeah so i've got at least i got that dial finally like i was going to machine all the parts out of alley and like make it all bullet bits and i was like hang on let me just print out a t of ptg see if it works if it works i'll do aluminium the motor doesn't even get hot i'm like screwed it can stay as ptg when it wears out i'll print i actually sheared actually broke off a wood screw from the vibration today i went there like why is the motor skew had a look pulled the head of the screw out like well shit
Curt: Yeah.
Curt: Yeah.
Curt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Curt: I'm surprised the ah the cutting end is is like maintaining for that. Because it's making a lot of freaking cuts.
jamie peacock: Yeah, but it's also hardened K110 tool steel or a hardened gauge plate.
Curt: Still, you're whacking the hell out of it continuously.
jamie peacock: Yeah, but that's why it's all hardened.
Curt: Yeah. Impressive.
jamie peacock: Like I literally went to a customer and hardened the pieces so that they would be hard as hell that they weren't going to wear out. And so far we're at that cunning end is what it's done now. 75, 75 kilos of material.
jamie peacock: It'll be 90 kilos tomorrow.
Curt: That's so many cuts.
jamie peacock: It's freaking silly.
Curt: That's so... And that's in one focused little area of whatever how two millimeters or whatever that is.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Like, that's a lot.
jamie peacock: 1.1. Yeah.
Curt: That's a lot of... That's a lot of metal moving past another piece of metal.
jamie peacock: Yeah, I put oil on it every like two hours. Squirt some whey oil into it. And then it quietens down for a bit. But yeah, it it's a tool. Like, it's made of tool steel. It's doing tool steel things.
jamie peacock: I'm surprised the mild steel body hasn't worn out yet because it's tool steel rubbing on a piece of mild steel.
Curt: Yeah.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: But again, it's lubricated and there's no funny forces involved. It's pretty well constrained. So it's literally just a shear force. So it'll do the thing. And when it gets blunt, I'll grind sharp up again because it's not even sharp. It's a square edge that just katunk shears off.
Curt: Right.
jamie peacock: And it only needs...
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: I think it only needs like four newton meters to actually make the cut. Four or five newton meters.
Curt: Oh, okay.
jamie peacock: Yeah, I tested it on a step, I had a stepper on a gearbox to figure out kind of how much force and then I put a closed loop stepper on it.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: 8.5 newton meter that just spins at a thousand watt, like 1500 RPM.
Curt: Hmm.
Curt: Hmm.
jamie peacock: With an Arduino, you got pull the wire off and put it back onto the ground pin to get it to start. And then it runs.
Curt: yeah
jamie peacock: Because I can't use one of the little stepper drivers I have because its signals are 3.3 volts and this closed loop stepper driver only runs on 5 volts.
Curt: Okay.
jamie peacock: and will not It will not run on 3.3 volts.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: It's really frustrating.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Like signals. So yeah, not a bit annoying, but it is what it is. It's running now. I need to put it...
Curt: hu
jamie peacock: i don't I want to rebuild it to be a little bit neater and then it can go to the customer. like Then he can run it. don't have to listen to it go brrrr all day.
Curt: Yeah, it's a little Mad Max-y looking.
jamie peacock: because it is a little, if it's dumb and it works, it isn't dumb.
Curt: I'm
jamie peacock: I literally cobbled it together out of a piece of of chipboard that I had laying around.
Curt: not arguing.
jamie peacock: ah to ah One of the things I was told to address, so we got some more shout outs on Taps and Patients for the anchor point. And I'm looking at my traffic, I'm like, we're getting good traffic, but we're not getting checkouts.
jamie peacock: And I think it's got to do with the tariffs notification I put on the website.
Curt: Mm-hmm.
Curt: Mm-hmm.
jamie peacock: clearly stating that the tariffs are not my problem.
Curt: we point?
jamie peacock: um
Curt: Allegedly.
jamie peacock: It's in the T's and C's, so it's still there, just behind a little I accept T's and C's button, so we took it off today. And we'll see if that affects anything. ah But regarding the tariffs, I got an email from Tunnel, my shipping agent, the guys who apparently yeah pull miracles off with FedEx.
jamie peacock: um The new tariffs are coming to into effect as of the first, because the cheeto got grumpy. And it's a...
Curt: allegedly
jamie peacock: Yeah, well, allegedly, allegedly the tariffs are coming in on the 1st. As it stands, it's a 30% tariff on any orders into the US that are over $800 because Dominicus, Dominus, whatever, still applies.
jamie peacock: I wasn't sure if it was going to still apply, but it does still apply according to my shipping agents.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: So that is why if you buy two anchor points, you get charged shipping twice because shipping twice is cheaper than 30% duties. um So yeah, going forward, everything that ships out will be under $800 per box to make sure that it gets in there without you having to pay additional tariffs because some dickhead decided that he wanted to charge tariffs.
jamie peacock: But yeah, so address the tariffs. There are no tariffs on anchor points as far as we can tell, unless you live in any other country in the world that's used to paying tariffs and import duties.
jamie peacock: Because everyone else pays them because that's how the world works.
Curt: Yeah. Yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah, I literally sent it to Kurt and I'm like, hey, Kurt, did you get any import duties?
Curt: Well, tomorrow's taco.
jamie peacock: like, yeah, no, don't worry, sorted it out. Because you expect it.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Because you live in any other country in the world.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: But yeah, it is what it is.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: I just thought I would address it because hopefully that will result in these last four units leaving my bloody house. um Yeah, because I would like them out of my house now.
Curt: and well I'm going to um have to bark up your tree and get some and then I'm going to get you just to fill the box with as many pallets as you can until the UPS people yell at you. and
jamie peacock: Yeah, there you go.
Curt: And then I'll fill my machine.
jamie peacock: We can put a lot. um Yeah, I'm looking. um I've got some five-inch pallets that i want to do some testing on now. Because all my stuff, I just fit onto four-inch pallets.
Curt: Oh, cool.
jamie peacock: Unless I use the mooring point and then it's a long pallet.
Curt: Yeah, yeah.
jamie peacock: um
Curt: Mm-hmm.
jamie peacock: I've got to make some other pallets because I've got 800 Dutchman squeeze box reeds coming.
Curt: Ooh, yeah, that'd be good palette work.
jamie peacock: That needs to be machined. So I'm going to make a second pallet that I can load the batches and only have a couple seconds downtime between cycles. Because the cycles aren't exactly long.
Curt: Yeah, yeah, yeah,
jamie peacock: so the second pallet is definitely needed there good thing I got a whole bunch in stock so I can just steal one of those and then I will make another one one of the advantages to having lots of pallets
Curt: Yeah.
Curt: Yeah. Well, I was, uh, I was comfortably sitting at my desk, unscrewing all the screws from the fixture and just looking at the nice pallet system sitting right beside me and just being like, okay, this is one of the last times I have to play this stupid game with a machine just sitting idle as I load parts into it.
Curt: So yeah, it just, i don't know.
jamie peacock: yeah yeah they're having having the power system is great
Curt: It's like, Well, it's like way less stress. Like I'm like way less stressed if the machine is running and making parts.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: I'm like, okay, well, if it takes me an hour to load, whatever, throw a podcast on.
jamie peacock: Doesn't matter.
Curt: Like I still, I feel like I'm being productive when it's like when all the machines are stopped and they're waiting on me, then I feel like run fast.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Like just feel like money is just flying out the door for no good reason. So yeah.
jamie peacock: Yeah. No, 100%. Like, I mean, even on the on the weekend, was doing those little dedutment squeezebox reads. And I made a story saying this is where anchor point shines. Like I have the palette, I throw it into the machine, I load the code, I hit go.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: all the legwork is done. Like, it's super quick to just put it in and run. And then, I want to change something else. Change something else. Like, yeah, it's great.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: i love it. um Yeah, I'm probably going making a bunch of bunch more of those file guards. I don't know if i mentioned I was making KnifeMaker's filing guards.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: but That's what I needed to buy more screws for because I can't count.
Curt: I remember those, yeah.
jamie peacock: So the screws come in tomorrow. can go deliver the rest. The guy's sold out. Like, he's going to place another order.
Curt: Oh, wow. Oh, sick.
jamie peacock: Yeah, he's coming in at a really competitive price.
Curt: That's awesome.
jamie peacock: It's a little bit smaller than the other guys' ones because it doesn't need to be giant.
Curt: Oh.
jamie peacock: So he's made a more cost-effective version. And obviously with me machining it, do things cheaply apparently. um I mean, we still make a freaking killing on these things, especially when I put ah in a new M4 thread mill and don't have to re-tap everything by hand because I'm an illiterate.
jamie peacock: Um, yeah, i had to re-tap all the M4 holes in 60 parts because, yeah, um my thread mill's a little bit worse for wear and I gauged it with a screw, not a tap.
jamie peacock: So it was a little bit on the tight side.
Curt: ah
jamie peacock: So I will finally retire that thread mill after a year and a half in my machine. I think all my thread mills in my machine are still the original ones that I put in the machine.
Curt: Wow.
jamie peacock: Mm-hmm. I'm machining aluminum.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: They don't wear out.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: They machine steel occasionally, but not like majorly.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: ah yeah I've got to get some M2 threadmills now.
Curt: Cute. That was bit tiny.
jamie peacock: Yeah, know. I mustn't look at them because just break. um
Curt: Hmm.
jamie peacock: Yeah, i redesigned. So I had a meeting on Friday with the diesel guys. um So I know their CEO was overseas. I thought he was still overseas. So I went to this meeting. He pulls in. I'm like, oh, just a man i want to speak to.
jamie peacock: What's happening with your salespeople? Why aren't they selling stuff? He's like, No, no, they're busy. They've they've just put together the training that they can bring in new people for for that. He wants to actually bring in a whole bunch of mold making expertise into the country.
jamie peacock: Because they went he went to China, the you remember all the 3d printing I was doing.
Curt: Yep.
jamie peacock: He was in China for a week, came back with like two or 300 injection molded parts. They made the mold while he was in China.
Curt: Holy.
Curt: Wow.
jamie peacock: And injection molded samples.
Curt: Well, I mean, that's, that's what they do. That's, that's what they've invested in in the last.
jamie peacock: they are really frickin skilled. So he wants to actually start, ah start getting that expertise.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: So basically, get guys who want to do it and then bring the Chinese in and train ah the local guys how to do it.
Curt: Hmm.
jamie peacock: Because that that's the only way going to learn is by doing it on the job.
Curt: Hmm. Hmm.
jamie peacock: And a long chat term, we had a meeting because they're having they've, they've been chasing ah A weird situation on the diesel tubes I make for the last, like, year.
jamie peacock: They could not figure out what it was. Turns out when they tension the wire down it, it's spring-loaded. They're not bottoming the spring out. And when they screw the sensor in, it compresses the spring and loosens the wire. So their capacitance is all over the show.
Curt: Oh, okay.
jamie peacock: So, yeah, I basically had a meeting with them. We did ah a bit of a redesign on the on the whole stack. Because, I mean, I got given drawings. I made parts to drawings. I then established all the tolerances and whatnot.
Curt: Right.
jamie peacock: um But the part screwed in. i'm like, why is this screwing in? It's getting held in place by a wire.
Curt: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
jamie peacock: You're not pre installing it. You get get a little bank bag with your connector, your wire, all the stuff in a little banky. You get to site, you then cut the tube to length, assemble the whole thing, pull the wire through and tension it.
jamie peacock: It's held together by the wire. So I took the threads off, extended the depth of the hole by three millimeters, extended another piece by a few millimeters, like basically made it that I could, without changing too much stuff, I could adapt it going forward.
Curt: Yeah. Yeah.
jamie peacock: And then I'm not charging them for design, so it's still my design. I'll charge them for parts, but I own the design.
Curt: yeah yeah
jamie peacock: I don't think they realize that's happening, but I don't mind. Because there's a number in mind if they ever do want their design. And at that point, they don't really have an option. So yeah, anyway.
Curt: Yeah.
jamie peacock: And then we've got to change one or two things. I'm like, yeah, well, if you don't tell me there's a problem, I can't fix it. They had one tube start rattling out of 1,458 that have been delivered in the last that i have been delivered in the last year
Curt: Oh, that's a good air
jamie peacock: was one that was delivered in February that failed.
Curt: Nice. airbar
jamie peacock: So I'm like, No, if you tell me there's an issue, we can address the issue. So we've got to do some minor tweaks to the assembly process. And then we'll be all sorted.
Curt: nice
jamie peacock: But yeah, they are seriously dilly dallying with their sales. so So I was giving them a lot of shit about that. But I redesigned the whole sensor housing as well. So I designed a sensor housing a while ago.
jamie peacock: And then I was looking at it, trying to come up with how the hell they're going to pot these ah they're electronics, because this thing gets so a little, effectively a cup. You put the board in, screw it down, and then they pot, but the potting is at an angle.
jamie peacock: So you've got to obviously have some moldy dingus in there. So I had a look at them like, why are we doing it this way? Just because it's that way now doesn't mean it has to be that way. So I ended up redesigning it so that the part gets pressed through a PTFE bush on the top, screwed down, and then they can pot with silicon, not epoxy, because it's not going to be in direct contact with diesel, and then press in an anodized aluminum lid that they can get from China.
jamie peacock: And then they can easily laser engrave on that anodized aluminum as well.
Curt: Right, oh that makes more sense, yeah.
jamie peacock: So yeah. So I sent samples out to our 3D printed samples over the weekend and sent them some 3D printed samples to play with.
Curt: That's cool.
jamie peacock: So should be interesting. Oh, yeah, I did take that off of my. So I'm just thinking about the the Google Boxing and what how my Google Box was violated yesterday.
jamie peacock: Yeah, I will probably tell you not in the after show after the podcast.
Curt: What were you looking at?
jamie peacock: I'll tell you what I Googled. It was quite entertaining. um Yeah, there's no ways that that is going to be associated with me on this podcast or anywhere. but it is quite funny. ah Anyway, so what have you been Googling this week, Kurt?
Curt: I have been Googling a little bit more fun things than last time.
jamie peacock: Oh, wait.
Curt: Oh, good.
jamie peacock: Okay.
Curt: Shoot.
jamie peacock: Yeah, sorry. We skipped one of your topics.
Curt: Oh, whatever. i don't even know what it was. Oh, yeah. I bought my wife an HD streaming camera for our anniversary just for some extra job security. um It wasn't.
jamie peacock: Oh, geez. Class for days.
Curt: No, i just I bought it for this stupid podcast. But I kept telling her. i was like i was like, I'm going to post that ah that you're buying it for your your secondary income stream. She's like, okay.
jamie peacock: Nice.
Curt: I was like, wait, OK as in we're going to do that, or OK as in?
jamie peacock: Yeah, was wearing my...
jamie peacock: i was so I was wearing my ChipFan shirt yesterday. We had some friends over along with one of the friends with her new boyfriend. So I was being classy as hell.
Curt: Nice.
Curt: Yeah, and I know I learned mine at the grocery store, but no one no one gets it around here. So that's whatever.
jamie peacock: I was wearing my face small one at QuizNight two weeks ago and the dude comes to me says, love your shirt.
Curt: It is what it is.
Curt: Nice.
jamie peacock: I actually had someone the other day say, I recognize that logo. I'm like, dude, really in public, you're gonna announce you recognize that logo.
Curt: Hey,
jamie peacock: Brave.
Curt: if you don't recognize that logo, I got questions for you.
jamie peacock: Yeah, 100%. yeah
Curt: yeah
jamie peacock: yeah hundred percent Yeah, I was getting I was getting gas. i was at the hardware store topping up my gas bottle for the little sunflower of justice heater. And guys, I can't recognize that logo. I'm like, damn straight you do.
Curt: What's the sunflower of justice?
jamie peacock: Oh, it's a little gas heater. It looks like fucking sunflower.
Curt: oh okay.
jamie peacock: I call it Sunflower of Justice.
Curt: Okay.
jamie peacock: It goes in my bathroom in the morning so that my toilet isn't fucking made of an icicle.
Curt: ah Okay, look.
jamie peacock: It's cold, yeah. It's like one whole degree for like 20 minutes.
Curt: oh yeah that's no that's if you don't have insulation in your house that'd be cold like that'd be yeah it's yeah
jamie peacock: Yeah, compared to you guys, this this is warm, but yeah.
jamie peacock: Well, let's think we don't have insulation. Well, I have lots of spare insulation. Well, I haven't told you that. We'll save that for after show of how Jamie bought insulation twice. There we go.
Curt: yeah you did i think you did mention that last time that you bought the wrong thickness but i think i think
jamie peacock: There's a lead to the after show.
jamie peacock: ah Yes, but I bought more.
Curt: Okay, cool. Well, i think you should go the way of, like, Black Fox then, and just make yourself a little, like, for up in the podcast area, make yourself, like, a little tent out of insulation.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
jamie peacock: Oh I have a plan for the spare to go around my tumbler to try and shut that thing up and also let it stop bukkake-ing on my feet because that the media makes like white dust and then some smart dick designed it so it leaks and it throws the white dust or white water onto my shoes and yeah, really not into the bukkake on my shoes.
Curt: Oh.
Curt: Oh.
Curt: No, fair enough.
Curt: Mm-hmm.
Curt: Ha-ha-ha.
jamie peacock: so
Curt: Ha-ha-ha. just just elsewhere um anyways in my yeah exactly uh printables jamie's dry dock for anchor point palette system offline part change base because you just sent that to me um so i have to look that up a crap ton of siemens manuals and forums and whatnot because i'm trying to fix my thing or figure out what the issue is i think i might have fixed it but i'll try some experimenting and i'll report back next week
jamie peacock: Yeah, just elsewhere. Okay, yes, what is in your Google box?
jamie peacock: Nice. Yep. Nice.
Curt: um a bunch of hello kitty image searches because i print coloring pages for my girls and they're just locked onto hello kitty right now and then a fun one ah which is type 2 anodizing on titanium because i did play with that like a year ago and now i'm getting back into it because i had some uh less than stellar pens come out of the last batch that i just kept for playing with so i'm trying to do more type 2 on them because uh well no one yeah
jamie peacock: nice
jamie peacock: Top two in titanium is the hard one.
Curt: That's the hard one. No one does it. um As far as I understand, no one does it. and As far as I understand, no one knows how to do it. um But i I had one promising result. I type two anodized a piece and it did indeed come out type two.
Curt: And it's kind of a nasty procedure, um but would like to do it on pens because it's just, it's like brutally strong.
jamie peacock: Yeah.
Curt: Like it's,
jamie peacock: OK.
Curt: Yeah, it's lovely stuff. It's kind of, you get that ah for titanium many anyways, you kind of get like a military gray green, like i talked about on the last episode.
jamie peacock: yes you you mentioned that okay
Curt: oh So its it's kind of visually pleasing if you like that kind of like utilitarian look. And yeah, don't know. kind of want to mess with it just because it's, like I said, it's so abrasion resistant.
Curt: It's like, I mean, it's not DLC level, but it's it's good.
jamie peacock: yeah yeah okay interesting your google box uh
Curt: And I can do it in-house, so. Yeah, I'd mess with that. That's that's basically my, how about you? What do you have you been Googling besides besides the illicit things you can't tell me about yet?
jamie peacock: ah Yes, ah so Wordle we're on 29. ah Then I was looking locally for ceramic and PCD. Your PCD inserts for hard turning because I now have to make custom bloody pins.
Curt: Mm-mm-mm.
jamie peacock: So I was just seeing what sizes were available because I run a DCMT07 in the Emco, but it did come with a DCMT11 holder when I bought it.
Curt: Cool. Nice. Yeah.
jamie peacock: And turns out I can get DCMT11 ceramics. So i'm going to get some DCMT11 ceramics and put that shitty tool holder back in my machine. It's missing a screw, so i've go to figure out what else screw I need.
jamie peacock: And then I'm looking at Z's now suppliers because he's now out of stock of the things I made, which is always awesome. So I'm going to hopefully deliver to him tomorrow afternoon another eight of these and convince him to give me an order for another 40.
Curt: so
Curt: nice yeah
jamie peacock: And then ah those are nice because they run on the self-centering vases for Op1 and then they go into a fixture for up to us, letting sort of more for connection, remember? I must have a look.
jamie peacock: But yeah, those run pretty, pretty nicely.
Curt: Oh.
jamie peacock: Okay, he hasn't sold many of the big ones. But yeah, that's all that's in my Google box, other than the the things we can't speak about on this podcast, because yeah, we're not pretending in that it's family friendly, but yeah, it's rough.
jamie peacock: um But yeah, anyway, we'll get into that between this and after show. um
jamie peacock: Where can people find your things and stuff?
Curt: confounded machine.com points you to there's billion pages there with all the information you would ever want and if ah there's something that doesn't just shoot me message i'm always happy to answer emails and it even points to the podcast stuff so if you want to buy one of the six shirts that uh that uh you know we're pumping out into the world uh danica's lovely designing um that i have to go buy more of now actually um hit that up too how about you jamie
jamie peacock: Nice.
jamie peacock: um yeah you can find me at jspeceng.com there's a page there for the anchor point and anchor point resources and yeah whole bunch of fun stuff along with some shirts there's the podcast's web page at the loan machinists.com it's got a link through to the merch store as well for supporting danica who does all our editing and whatnot um she's got a bunch of fancy shirts and it's got some very classy ones on the way um i'm still i'm trying to get shirts out of where i'm like hey my birthday's coming up can i have some lemon shirts it's
Curt: I don't
jamie peacock: been like six months since i got shirts from her last so well other than the chip fans and faceable shirt um but yeah trying to get some some more shirts out of her but yeah you can check that out and there's also the patreon for the podcast to make the wheels on the podcast go round and round and maybe get a decent camera for me not that podcast listeners can hear us but the after show there's video um yeah so uh what are you up to today good
Curt: ah Today, I'll probably mess a little bit more with the fourth and then just start throwing some production on the sile. Let it get creating, you know, things that actually will make me money. And then I'll probably start in the next big batch of pens.
Curt: So yeah, just bunch of production.
jamie peacock: nice
Curt: So I'm kind of excited about that. just buts yeah it's It's fun just running dialed processes sometimes. um
jamie peacock: yes it is um well i plan on just sleeping to tonight uh tomorrow i am going to machine the ends of these molds i've been working on
Curt: But yeah, how about you? How about you? What are you up to aside from sleeping tonight?
jamie peacock: That gets them all done. I'm short of some drill bushes because the drill bush people are flipping illiterate and send stuff through Africa on a drunk donkey. at least that's what I assume. That's why it takes so long.
jamie peacock: But yeah, we'll get into that and how much I want to burn that place down in the after show. um And then going to chop some more wire tomorrow. And I've got a K110 job I don't really want to do on the lathe. But I guess I need to ah need to do before the guy starts asking too many questions.
jamie peacock: Also, I got my heat treating back for the anchor points, so I'm going to start grinding those at some point. At least this time, there's only comma one of a mil to come off, not comma five.
Curt: Nice.
Curt: Nice.
jamie peacock: Someone had a brain this time. But yeah, anyway, um thank you everybody for listening. ah If you enjoyed the podcast, please give us a like, rate, subscribe, whatever it is on your player of choice.
jamie peacock: um If you're on YouTube, you can always leave a comment. Those are quite entertaining. um We are on YouTube, po Apple Podcasts, and Spotify. If you enjoyed the podcast and you want to share it with someone, please do. Other than that, thank you very much for listening.
Curt: Take care all.
