Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
Ep. 27: Tufnol: The Last Shaving
0 Plays2 seconds ago
Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as Machining resin, Tufnol, and Production.
Links Discussed:
- Taps and Patience: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL44StRiMNd89t_5seFHrhGvvRQK-fuw3X
The Lone Machinist:
- Website: https://thelonemachinists.com/
- Bonus Content: https://thelonemachinists.com/#bonus-content
- Merch: https://www.jspeceng.com/online-store
- Patreon: https://patreon.com/TheLoneMachinists
Jamie:
Curt:
Recommended
Transcript
TPU Density and Humor
00:00:47
jamie peacock
Good morning, Kurt. are you doing this morning?
00:00:50
Curt
I'm doing fantastic. How are you doing this your evening, Jamie?
00:00:54
jamie peacock
I'm doing well. Do you know if TPU floats?
00:00:59
Curt
I don't know.
00:01:00
jamie peacock
I don't think so.
00:01:01
Curt
Oh,
00:01:01
jamie peacock
I think it's pretty dense because a piece just went into my T.
00:01:05
Curt
well, if a tea's hot enough.
00:01:05
jamie peacock
Because during the intro, I was busy. i was busy chewing the bits off of my brim like a savage.
00:01:10
Curt
Yeah, i saw you using your natural side cutters.
00:01:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:01:13
Curt
Yeah. natural side cutters
00:01:16
jamie peacock
There we go, my built-in wire strippers. um
Production Focus and Pen Anodizing
00:01:19
Curt
yeah
00:01:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, I was busy just ah trying to get the brim off of it because TPU kind of needs the brim, but then, yeah, it's got really good layer adhesion.
00:01:28
jamie peacock
But anyway, ah yeah, what you been up to this week?
00:01:28
Curt
Nice.
00:01:32
Curt
Just a crap ton of production. ah Like the last couple weeks there, I was working on those mechs, and I kind of just pushed those aside for now, so it just kind of just doubled down on production, which has been nice.
00:01:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:01:43
Curt
It's just like brain off, podcasts on, and just crank through pens. So i got... I think I actually did this batch as fast as I've ever done a batch. um So yeah this week I'll just be like anodizing and putting it all together and hopefully have them up for sale on the next couple days.
00:01:55
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:01:58
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:01:58
Curt
So yeah, that'd be select.
00:01:59
Curt
That was fun. Nice. It feels nice to get a bunch of
00:02:00
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Machining Tufnell and Filter Strategy
00:02:01
Curt
production done, but nothing super interesting, unfortunately.
00:02:04
jamie peacock
Yeah. And with that, Curtis threw... He added a topic, was going to say. With that, Curtis threw all his topics for the week.
00:02:11
Curt
I'll have topics.
00:02:11
jamie peacock
Um...
00:02:12
Curt
they'll come They'll come up as we chat.
00:02:13
jamie peacock
yeah know they always do no lacquer so yeah you've been you've just been cranking yeah also uh well i did some some fun stuff did the tufnell job got that out by tuesday ended up taking me nine hours to do the optos on those which basically pulled it perfectly in line with what i quoted um and then charged them two hours to clean the machine which is great um
00:02:16
Curt
How about you, man? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:02:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, didn't flood anything this time. um But I am going to need to add additional filtering in different places for the next run. So the next set of pots are busy being nested like the next two or three days.
00:02:50
jamie peacock
And then those are coming through. So I think I'm going to go buy some filter cloth, but in a thinner width and wrap it around. So on my machine, there's a a punch steel plate that is the filter between the tank and the pumps.
00:03:05
jamie peacock
I'm thinking of wrapping that filter cloth around it. So as it starts getting clogged, I can just pull the filter and it'll just pull around there and bring fresh filter cloth in.
00:03:14
Curt
Oh, I see just to get like the super the super fines or whatever out.
00:03:15
jamie peacock
Because I was having... ah Yeah, that that mesh was blocking up and i was having foaming like nobody's business because my pumps were being starved and I don't really want the sludge going through my pumps if I can avoid it.
00:03:29
jamie peacock
So I'm going to mess around with different solutions, but that's going to be three days of machining tufnall.
00:03:29
Curt
Yeah.
00:03:35
Curt
so
00:03:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, the machine's really well, just smells a bit funny, but machine's really well.
00:03:36
Curt
as
00:03:40
Curt
And this is going to be like a
Prototype Part and Tool Management
00:03:42
Curt
monthly thing for you or?
00:03:43
jamie peacock
I don't know. This is the prototype part.
00:03:45
Curt
Don't know.
00:03:46
jamie peacock
Hopefully, it'll be a production thing. If it is a production thing, I'll be bloody happy because it's basically just building them for machine time and tooling.
00:03:55
Curt
Oh, sick.
00:03:55
jamie peacock
And the tooling, like I did all the parts with one set of tools.
00:03:56
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:03:58
jamie peacock
The only thing is I've got to touch all the tools and then start running the parts and then my tool set is out the machine. So I don't really want to wear out any tools. So I was thinking of if this is going to go into production, start setting up sister tools that I know I've got...
00:04:11
Curt
Uh, okay.
00:04:12
jamie peacock
three of every tool set up that if one starts to wear out, I can just swap in. And I think I might attempt to use the D offsets in the Siemens controller for that. Or the edge offsets.
00:04:23
Curt
Oh, oh yeah, job sets. Yeah, Okay, okay.
00:04:25
jamie peacock
Yeah. So I might mess around with that.
00:04:26
Curt
I guess that'd be good. Yeah. That'd be good use case for that.
00:04:28
jamie peacock
Although, again, we have a like a thousand tool numbers, so I will just probably just make them different tools.
00:04:33
Curt
Yeah.
Running on Generator During Outage
00:04:36
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, no doubt.
00:04:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, but the yeah vacuum work holding worked like a bomb.
00:04:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:04:40
jamie peacock
I went and bought a vacuum pump on Monday morning. It was Monday morning? Tuesday morning? Tuesday morning? I don't know I know if told you, but I was printing Venturi nozzles last week.
00:04:47
Curt
I think we caught it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:50
jamie peacock
I can't remember if I bought the vacuum pump already.
00:04:53
Curt
Yeah. Cause you remember i like 250 watt little.
00:04:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
00:04:57
Curt
but Yeah.
00:04:57
jamie peacock
So, yeah, that thing worked.
00:04:57
Curt
yeah
00:04:58
jamie peacock
It ran for like three days straight perfectly.
00:05:01
Curt
Sick. That's one thing I kind of want.
00:05:02
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:04
jamie peacock
I've got a I've got a job coming up now, a mold cavity for the center wing of a drone that's got 14 hours of finishing.
00:05:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, it is the full area of my machine again.
00:05:15
Curt
That's a lot.
00:05:18
jamie peacock
So a vacuum chuck can hold it down to the vacuum chuck and just and let the machine go to town. it
00:05:23
jamie peacock
Yeah. Each one's about, yeah, aluminium. I'm waiting. I've said the quote today. I'm waiting for the deposit. Then I can order material. That's all got to be done by the end of July.
00:05:23
Curt
And that that's aluminum again?
00:05:34
jamie peacock
So I have got 31 days to go until that has to be delivered.
00:05:38
Curt
Well.
00:05:38
jamie peacock
I've got four different sections, four different molds. ah The big one's got four components. It's got a big top, big bottom, and two ends. And then the other ones are all top, bottom, and an end.
00:05:48
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:05:51
jamie peacock
So goingnna the material arrives for the small ones tomorrow, and I can start plowing through those.
00:05:51
Curt
Mm.
00:05:56
jamie peacock
Been trying to find a tool holding solution that I can get rapidly locally, but yeah, no luck so far. And I'm scared to ask how much the Tribos stuff is from Shunk.
00:06:09
Curt
Yeah, I think I'd be spendy.
00:06:11
jamie peacock
I might just ask anyway. I'm going past it tomorrow. I might be like, just give me a price. Just let me cry. Just tell me what it's going to cost me. um And buy two holders and the Tribulse little Clampimatron for running four millimeter end mills. Because I need to run some one mill some two millimeter end mills, so or one um with a 10 millimeter length of cut to clear out a certain section of the mold.
00:06:36
Curt
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:37
jamie peacock
So again, touch everything off and then, because yeah, touch all the tools off, put them in the rack and then load them in for the job, run the job. yeah All the procedures that come into play when you're trying to get really, really ah good surface finishes.
00:06:52
Curt
Yeah, yeah, no, exactly.
00:06:52
jamie peacock
Also tapping in mills and all all the crap that goes with it.
00:06:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:57
jamie peacock
So going down path.
00:07:00
jamie peacock
down that rabbit hole with making molds on the LK. But yeah, the LK is shockingly accurate.
00:07:05
Curt
And.
00:07:09
Curt
Well, and you'll notice on this one because its your your mold is almost a meter wide, like 700 millimeters.
00:07:13
jamie peacock
Well, yeah know yeah I assume it's accurate over like that that kind of shit.
00:07:14
Curt
like That's huge.
00:07:18
jamie peacock
There's no way for them to measure it, so it's going to be perfect.
00:07:21
jamie peacock
um So remember i bought those internal ball marks?
00:07:21
Curt
as Yeah.
00:07:26
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, what do you think the variation was on the dial hole size on 21 anchor point bodies? On the locating pin size?
00:07:36
Curt
So just interpolated holes.
00:07:38
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:40
Curt
I have no idea. I have no idea.
00:07:42
jamie peacock
Five microns.
00:07:43
Curt
well That's pretty tight. That's pretty tight.
00:07:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:07:46
jamie peacock
And that that that the zero to, or the eight to 10 millimeter ball mark has got a vernier scale that measures to the micron.
00:07:54
Curt
Cool.
00:07:55
jamie peacock
Like, it is insanely accurate.
00:07:56
Curt
Cool.
00:07:57
jamie peacock
And that is over three days that I ran that. And that, like, in the morning, I noticed it was a little bit smaller.
00:08:01
Curt
Oh, wow.
00:08:03
jamie peacock
And then through the day, it actually just stretched out to be exactly where I wanted it.
00:08:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:07
Curt
Oh, well, that's that's more impressive than if it's over the course of like a time, a large time horizon.
00:08:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:08:12
jamie peacock
Yeah,
Reflecting on Torque Bits Production
00:08:13
jamie peacock
I was pretty impressed with that. So yeah, those are all now done. They're going to anodize tomorrow. um I'm going to go through and visit the guys at High Tech Machine Tools, find out about Tribos Tools, find out how much I want to cry, and then go drop those off and then go pick up my shafts for the the linear shaft for making the pins.
00:08:18
Curt
Hmm.
00:08:33
jamie peacock
That got ordered today. It's ready for collection. Yeah, I've got some heard some interesting stuff. I think we'll deal with that in the after show about the company i used to work for and some shady shit they pulled. But yeah, i think let's keep that for the after show so it's behind a paywall, just in case.
00:08:43
Curt
Oh,
00:08:46
Curt
man.
00:08:47
jamie peacock
Because I am going to throw them very violently under the bus. But yeah. So, yeah, I don't know if you've been following all the shit I got up to this week because it's been a bit of a
00:08:54
Curt
a
00:08:58
jamie peacock
a bit of a week
00:09:00
Curt
I have had my head in the sand like an ostrich.
00:09:02
jamie peacock
ah
00:09:02
Curt
And like, I think I saw maybe a couple of your stories. I've missed so much Instagram. I haven't been active on it I've just been, yeah, given her.
00:09:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:09
Curt
So tell me, tell me, tell me for the people that haven't caught it.
00:09:10
jamie peacock
snow So the generator finally ran production.
00:09:15
Curt
Oh, you had to fire it up.
00:09:16
jamie peacock
Yeah. The level of rage that happened on Tuesday or Wednesday morning, I think. Can't remember.
00:09:24
Curt
Mm hmm.
00:09:26
jamie peacock
Yeah. Anyway, the level of rage that was experienced was quite hard because all of a sudden the power went off at eight o'clock in the morning. And I'm like, what the hell is this?
00:09:32
Curt
Huh?
00:09:33
jamie peacock
We're not expecting load shedding. The app has not said we have load shedding. turns out there was a planned power outage, I don't know how it was planned, and who it was told that it was planned, but I wasn't fucking let, I wasn't informed of this shit, so I was, I had woken up early, was running Torx bits, um, in the mill, power goes off, so I'm like, okay, deep breaths, grab my jerry can, in the truck, off to the gas station, fill up with diesel, put in all of $20 worth of diesel,
00:10:04
jamie peacock
um because it only takes 20 liters. So, you know, put diesel in the generator, start the generator, and I ran production the entire day.
00:10:11
jamie peacock
I burned $15 worth of fuel. The day before that, I had done $12.5 worth of electricity because we on prepaid meter, so I actually i burned through $25 in two days.
00:10:11
Curt
Wow.
00:10:14
Curt
That's not bad.
00:10:24
Curt
Okay, so we're just running like way more equipment the day before?
00:10:25
jamie peacock
So the... No, I ran the same amount of equipment. My generator's not that expensive to run.
00:10:31
Curt
That's weird.
00:10:32
jamie peacock
It's great.
00:10:34
Curt
Oh, I thought
00:10:35
jamie peacock
Like, it's it's not even like, it's like 30% more expensive to run on the generator than to run off of our local electricity provider.
00:10:42
Curt
Oh, I thought for some reason I thought your generator just was like absolutely horribly inefficient.
00:10:46
jamie peacock
So did I.
00:10:48
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:10:48
jamie peacock
So did I. Yeah, no, we ran the whole day generator. Actually, it ended up running an hour longer because I had a job set up on the late that I didn't want to reset so i was like I'm just gonna push through let the generator run ah finish the job and then shut down the generator and change over because yeah I don't feel like resetting the sizes because obviously Linux and CLAids don't exactly home perfectly
00:11:02
Curt
Hmm.
00:11:14
Curt
Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah.
00:11:14
jamie peacock
yeah so i was like i i'll just carry on running and let it let it shoot so yeah i finished off the talk spits because those needed to go to the customer that day like i was planning on taking them mid-morning so i had to finish had to finish that run we turned off quickly shot to the customer came back to the generator back on and carried on running production um but yeah we did 720 talk spits in one day on the lk yeah that's uh not bad uh if we stretch it we can push a thousand in a day
00:11:31
Curt
Nice.
00:11:35
Curt
That's a lot. That's a lot.
00:11:42
jamie peacock
Um, it, yeah, it's amazing what a rigid machine will do. Cause I used to be lucky to get 200 to 300, uh, talk spits of a single tool on the slow.
00:11:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. ah did a thousand on one tool.
00:11:52
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:11:55
Curt
Nice.
00:11:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:56
Curt
well, I get like everything everything adds to it for sure.
00:11:59
jamie peacock
Yeah. I mean, I was doing 20 talk spits in including reload, I think was 15 minutes.
00:12:06
Curt
Wow. Wow.
00:12:07
jamie peacock
So yeah, sub one minute per part. And yeah, if you look at it with the parting off, it's still sub one minutes with with the material prep up and the mill time.
00:12:16
Curt
With the mill, do you have it set up on like a pallet or?
00:12:20
jamie peacock
It's my old fixturing. i just bored two holes in the threaded two holes that drops onto my riser.
00:12:22
Curt
Okay.
00:12:25
jamie peacock
I've got two sets of those.
00:12:26
Curt
Okay.
00:12:26
jamie peacock
So I literally swap over, hit go, and then I reload the the fixture.
00:12:32
Curt
Okay, so you still have like an offline load.
00:12:32
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:34
jamie peacock
So I used to have six fixtures and that used to take up the entire span or the entire work envelope of the Slowio. And then I used to make 30 at a time. It used to about 40 minutes.
00:12:45
jamie peacock
Op one and op two every time I hit cycle start. Machine would stop. Within a minute, it was running again because I had a full set of fixtures reloaded and waiting to go in.
00:12:54
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:55
jamie peacock
I mean, the Slowio made like 10,000 to 12,000 of those things.
00:12:55
Curt
Nice.
00:12:59
Curt
That's a lot Yeah.
00:13:00
jamie peacock
Yeah. Now we used to do a thousand of them a month, every month for just child a year. And then since then, it's been slowly trickling in like a thousand, yeah, 500 bucks that five hundred there, 500 there.
00:13:06
Curt
Oh.
00:13:11
jamie peacock
So yeah, I think we're close on like 15,000 of those that I've made.
00:13:15
Curt
That's a lot. That's a lot of anything.
00:13:17
jamie peacock
That's a lot of parts, yeah.
Energy Management and Generator Setup
00:13:19
Curt
Yeah. No doubt.
00:13:19
jamie peacock
Now then we had another job that I can't, I can't share because NDAs and things and But that ran for for two or three days on the EMCO and then finished off on the mill and got shipped out last week. So at least that's off the books.
00:13:33
jamie peacock
And yeah, that comes around.
00:13:34
Curt
Yay.
00:13:34
jamie peacock
Now we do full supply on that. so we were running old material and now we do full supply at least.
00:13:40
Curt
oh
00:13:40
jamie peacock
But yeah. No.
00:13:40
Curt
Oh, before we stray too far from it, um your generator and you're like whatever, like wired in power, do you have like an auto transfer switch? Like, can you flip flop live back and forth?
00:13:48
jamie peacock
No.
00:13:50
Curt
OK, OK.
00:13:50
jamie peacock
No. I don't want. sir Firstly, I don't Eskom to do have anything to do with my fucking generator, they can go down.
00:13:57
Curt
Sure. Sure.
00:13:58
jamie peacock
So it actually has a plug.
00:14:01
Curt
Hmm.
00:14:02
jamie peacock
It's got a 63 amp plug. It can only supply 40 amps. It's got a 63 amp single phase plug there because everything's converted to run a single phase. So I've got a phase converter for the LK. Everything else is single phase.
00:14:13
jamie peacock
So I bought a single phase generator that I'm not switching between doing weird shit. um I've got a 100 amp changeover outside. So basically start the generator, plug in the giant cable and then hit the changeover to generator side. And then when I want to change it back over, I actually flicked it live this time and nothing skipped a beat. too
00:14:32
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:14:32
jamie peacock
Obviously, the mill was off, the lades off, but the lights didn't, like, home system didn't even know.
00:14:33
Curt
Okay.
00:14:37
jamie peacock
The lights stayed on, my PC stayed on.
00:14:38
Curt
Oh, wow.
00:14:40
jamie peacock
So, yeah, but I don't like to do that. I'd prefer to shut it off and then switch it on to Eskom. That way, if there's any phase mismatch, it's not a problem.
00:14:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:51
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. That can get exciting fast.
00:14:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, very, very exciting, very fast. But, like, my work PC's on the inverter. ah This PC is on the inverter. All of our lights in the house are on the inverter. The gate, the fence, all that stuff is all on the inverter. So if the power drops, all that is still working.
00:15:09
jamie peacock
ah Even my internet is now on a battery backup.
00:15:09
Curt
I got you.
00:15:11
jamie peacock
So the power can turn off and I carry on with my life. And then if i want to make coffee, I go turn on the 20kVA Jenny so I can boil the kettle.
00:15:16
Curt
Cool. I get you.
00:15:20
Curt
Nice. That's cool.
00:15:22
jamie peacock
Yep. Literally number of bucks given is zero.
00:15:23
Curt
That's cool.
00:15:25
jamie peacock
Like we wake up, power's off. I just go turn the generator on. I want coffee.
00:15:30
Curt
Nice.
00:15:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:31
Curt
Nice.
00:15:32
jamie peacock
But do yeah, the grudge purchase paid off this week.
00:15:32
Curt
It's nice to like yeah set yourself up like that where you can get around the.
00:15:37
jamie peacock
Like, I was very happy I had it.
00:15:38
Curt
Yeah, cool.
00:15:40
jamie peacock
So, but yeah, I put in 20 liters. It took the fuel from 19% to 59%. And when I was done, I was still on 30%. So, yeah, we we barely used any fuel all day.
00:15:50
Curt
Wow.
00:15:54
jamie peacock
And that was running the LK, the Emco, and at one stage, and I was running Bertha as well.
00:15:59
Curt
OK, OK, so yeah, a decent load.
00:16:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, like it it can run everything. No, no, it can run everything. I've got a 20kVA journey. We peak at 14kVA.
00:16:06
Curt
OK, nice. That works.
00:16:07
jamie peacock
And that's ah also, I put a power meter in before I bought the generator so that I knew how much power I needed.
00:16:14
Curt
Right, right, right.
00:16:15
jamie peacock
Because what's measured is managed.
00:16:15
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:16:16
jamie peacock
And yeah, you can guess at what you need, but yeah, I
00:16:17
Curt
Totally.
Efficient Anchor Point Production
00:16:19
jamie peacock
mean, the LK is only a 6.5kVA machine.
00:16:23
Curt
Oh, yeah. Okay. That's, yeah.
00:16:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's it' small smaller than your X5 power consumption was.
00:16:27
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:28
jamie peacock
It's a very, very low power machine.
00:16:28
Curt
I mean, I guess, and I guess, yeah, you're, yeah, like, it's it's not like a mill where you're hustling around a giant table. Like, it's it's not a ton of mass you're whipping around.
00:16:37
jamie peacock
Well, they'll
00:16:39
Curt
Oh, sorry, you're LK.
00:16:39
jamie peacock
well Well, yeah, the LK, yeah, that thing's fucking shooting shit around.
00:16:40
Curt
Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, never mind. Yeah, never mind.
00:16:43
jamie peacock
um
00:16:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:44
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's only a 6.5 kVA machine. That's one of the reasons that I looked at a second one a while ago, because power consumption-wise, it is the better choice.
00:16:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:54
jamie peacock
I'd rather have that than something that pulls 15 kVA, because then power supply becomes an issue. Whereas technically speaking, I could fit another LK on, on my current feed, I would just have to watch what runs and be a little bit, yeah, a little bit of planning.
00:17:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:10
jamie peacock
Like don't run the lathe and both LKs because you might have an issue.
00:17:13
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, totally.
00:17:15
jamie peacock
But I mean, yeah, I also have another 20, another 100 amp service. So can always just use that one.
00:17:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:23
jamie peacock
Like, because we've got two services to the property, so I can always steal the other one if I really want to.
00:17:28
Curt
Yeah. Nice.
00:17:30
jamie peacock
But yeah.
00:17:31
Curt
Sick.
00:17:33
jamie peacock
So yeah.
00:17:33
Curt
Cool.
00:17:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, i mean been and been busy chooching along with Anchor Point parts. Getting those all through the through the production.
00:17:43
Curt
Just getting like the all the most annoying ones kind of out of the way first or?
00:17:46
jamie peacock
ah Well, the bodies is... There are 21 of them. That was a good 20... I think it's just over 26 hours of machining in those bodies.
00:17:58
Curt
I saw that you were loading, like, I like that you were loading the body blanks on top of an anchor point, like making anchor points on the anchor points.
00:18:02
jamie peacock
Oh yeah, 100%.
00:18:04
Curt
was like, that's pretty cool.
00:18:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah.
00:18:05
Curt
Yeah. ah
00:18:06
jamie peacock
It's at the
Balancing Orders and Machine Time
00:18:07
jamie peacock
limits of what you should be doing on an anchor point, but it works.
00:18:10
Curt
I was thinking that too. I'm like, that's a, that's a lot of leverage you're putting on that, but the finishes look great.
00:18:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:18:13
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:18:13
Curt
So.
00:18:14
jamie peacock
Finishes are fine. It gets, yeah, the finishes were looking a little bit worse towards the end, but also that end mill's made 35 anchor points now, so it can be retired.
00:18:23
Curt
Hmm. Hmm.
00:18:25
jamie peacock
Now, I cannot, horrible, can't feel it, but I can see it. And that'll go away with the electro polishing. So I'm not too phased about that.
00:18:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:33
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, and then today made all the all the pistons, up one and up two. And then yesterday worked on the pads and the grippers. I'm just waiting for inserts.
00:18:46
jamie peacock
My tooling supplies, i ordered inserts like middle of last week and they haven't delivered yet. So I messaged them today, say, hey, where the hell are my inserts? They'll be ah tomorrow. And then I can finish finish the pads up, get those milled, get them off to heat treat.
00:18:59
jamie peacock
That's like a two-day turnaround. It's not too bad. Anodizing is getting dropped off tomorrow. And then I still need to order the material for the backers. I'm just waiting for the one mold order to come through because I just quoted it into that job.
00:19:11
jamie peacock
But yeah, I was chatting to Danica today. It's like we're building up 20 of these things and hoping like hell going to sell.
00:19:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:18
jamie peacock
Because we're putting a lot of ah lot of resources into to manufacturing them.
00:19:25
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:19:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, this is what it is. Got to roll the dice at some point. Worst case, I'll have 20 of them. I'll stick them on the side of my machine.
00:19:35
Curt
Just make like, yeah. I mean, I guess guess if you have the stock already, if you have the stock and you have some open machine time, like.
00:19:41
jamie peacock
Yeah. So like I have got a bit of time on the machine now, so I may as well quickly knock the parts out. I've got, uh, material arriving tomorrow to start that mold work.
00:19:47
Curt
hmm. Mm
00:19:51
jamie peacock
So I'm going to probably start climbing in on that, but I've still got the backers to do.
00:19:51
Curt
hmm.
00:19:55
jamie peacock
I've still got the grippers, which are tedious as hell to make. It's five operations. Um, I think I'll set up two vases and do the op one and then all the op twos. don't know. I'll figure it out.
00:20:07
jamie peacock
ah But yeah, there's not that much stuff. Like I can squeeze the rest of the stuff in between. Everything that's left to be done short of the pads is when it's done, it's done. There's no additional processes.
00:20:16
Curt
Right.
00:20:17
jamie peacock
So it was getting the anodizing stuff ready and getting that out to anodize this week was the the major thing.
00:20:18
Curt
Right.
00:20:25
Curt
The push, yeah.
00:20:25
jamie peacock
Because yeah, that that's going to take like, if we're lucky, five days.
00:20:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:31
jamie peacock
So yeah, we will will see.
00:20:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:33
jamie peacock
And then yeah, today was end of month. So all the admin stuff, chasing suppliers for payments.
00:20:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:38
jamie peacock
I'm a little annoyed. The one supplier has not paid.
00:20:41
Curt
Uh-huh.
00:20:42
jamie peacock
And as it is, they're on thin ass. So I will harass them tomorrow and say, ah the last day of the month was yesterday.
00:20:46
Curt
yeah
00:20:48
jamie peacock
Where the hell's my money? um
00:20:51
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:51
jamie peacock
Not that it's a lot of money, but where the hell's my money? Because they are yeah testing my patience.
00:20:56
Curt
Yeah, well, yeah, it's not that hard. Just, yeah, and this is is what it is.
00:21:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's one of those one of those things like I'm looking to fill my capacity with other customers work now like not really interested in their their stories anymore. I bought that M code to do their stuff the M code paid for itself in the first month.
00:21:16
jamie peacock
So
Power Stability Concerns
00:21:17
jamie peacock
if I never get an order from them again, I'm really not going to be that hard.
00:21:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:20
jamie peacock
So it's nice cash flow when the orders come. But yeah, if they can't if they can't chase their salesman to actually do their jobs, that's not my problem.
00:21:30
Curt
Yeah. I know that's my like, I like forgive people for a lot of things, like a lot of things, but like laziness is like top of my list of things that annoys me the most.
00:21:31
jamie peacock
So
00:21:36
jamie peacock
yeah
00:21:37
Curt
Like if I'm working with somebody and they're lazy, oh, it drives me crazy. Like that's the one thing I just can't stand.
00:21:40
jamie peacock
yeah no do the thing yeah yeah so yeah we'll see i mean these guys they're the guys i've been doing all the printing for as well printed them another 10 sample housings last weekend um
00:21:42
Curt
I'm like, don't be lazy. Just, just do this. Like it doesn't take that much effort. Just, yeah. Yeah. Remember this, write it down. Just, yeah.
00:21:58
Curt
Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:21:59
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've been doing a lot of stuff for them, but it's yeah's getting a bit ah getting bit old. like I'm not willing to even drive there. like I sent Danica to deliver. I'm like, sorry, I've got other stuff to do. It's not worth my time to get in my my truck and drive there.
00:22:11
jamie peacock
I'll send Danica to deliver.
00:22:13
jamie peacock
Because I'm going to...
00:22:13
Curt
Are they like one of those companies?
00:22:15
Curt
are they one of the companies that's a big enough for that's like, oh, we pushed it into our finance department and they haven't got back?
00:22:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:21
Curt
Like, is it?
00:22:22
jamie peacock
Well, they've got a finance department and they get proof of delivery from me as soon as stuff's delivered.
00:22:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:25
jamie peacock
Like literally we deliver, they sign on the paper, we take a picture, email it to them so I don't forget. So they have all the paperwork and they issue the PO so they know what needs to be paid at the end of the month.
00:22:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:35
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah.
00:22:36
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, they'll probably pay me tomorrow and then I'll still be sour. Um... knock yeah It just is what it is. The other guys for the molds and stuff, they pay 50% up front and then usually take like four or five days to pay the balance once they've got their parts, which is a little annoying, but that's fine. At least they pay.
00:22:57
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt.
00:22:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, especially because they gave me like a shitload of mold work.
00:23:02
Curt
Yeah. That's nice. It's always nice to have that kind of like long, long duration part.
00:23:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm a little concerned about our power stability here now.
00:23:07
Curt
Go sleep. Go sleepy sleep. Yeah.
00:23:11
jamie peacock
Because the problem is if if we get 10 hours into that finishing pass and the power goes off, well, guess what? I sink that whole part by half a millimeter and go again.
00:23:23
jamie peacock
So potentially, yeah, we could end up with some really, really long cycle times if we have any issues with power.
00:23:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:30
Curt
Yeah, well, time to time to pony up for that auto-transfer switch and a big, beefy backup.
00:23:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:36
jamie peacock
Oh, screw that shit. I'll just put fucking diesel in and run the thing. Like...
00:23:39
Curt
Oh, yeah, fair enough.
00:23:40
jamie peacock
Run the whole job on diesel.
00:23:40
Curt
Fair enough, yeah.
00:23:41
jamie peacock
Like, there's enough margin on the job that I can literally run the whole thing on the generator.
00:23:45
Curt
Fair enough.
00:23:46
jamie peacock
My neighbors might just get a tad annoyed.
00:23:46
Curt
Yeah, I get that works too. Yeah.
00:23:49
jamie peacock
But if it comes down to it, that is what I will do. Like, if there's any inkling of there being load shedding, I will straight up fill that diesel tank up and run it.
00:23:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:58
jamie peacock
And just run off of the generator. Like, I think that he the diesel tank's got enough diesel for like 11 or 12 hours of running continuously.
00:24:06
Curt
Okay.
00:24:07
jamie peacock
And then that gives me time to have a nap while, and then wake up and go and buy more diesel.
00:24:10
Curt
yeah
00:24:14
Curt
Yeah. Just keep it running that way.
00:24:16
jamie peacock
But yeah, I mean, that's why I have the, that's why I have the generator is for these kinds of things where work has to go out the door.
00:24:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:24:23
jamie peacock
And if we don't have electricity, that's not actually an excuse anymore. We live in South Africa. We never have electricity.
00:24:28
Curt
Yeah. yeah Yeah, exactly.
00:24:31
jamie peacock
Although having said that, we've had electricity pretty much, the only time we've had load shedding since the elections last year was when the government wanted to do something and the bill, I don't know, someone stopped it.
00:24:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:24:45
jamie peacock
So, oh, they wanted to increase the electricity price. And, yeah, there was a whole bunch of pushback. So then all of a sudden there was load shedding for three days. They literally threw a fit. And we're like, screw you people. you don't want to pay more. We'll just ah turn your electricity off.
00:24:59
jamie peacock
It's like, come on, guys. We can see what you're doing, yeah? Stop being little children.
00:25:02
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:06
jamie peacock
But, yeah, that's politics.
00:25:08
Curt
Weird.
00:25:08
jamie peacock
They're the best.
00:25:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, the world
00:25:10
Curt
Yeah.
Combat Robotics and Community
00:25:11
jamie peacock
has been insane.
00:25:11
Curt
Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah, I know. I'm i'm liking it right now. It's quiet here because like school for the little people, I live in kind of a school zone.
00:25:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:20
Curt
So it just ended. So like my mornings were super quiet. I went i went to drop like my little ones off this morning at ah daycare, dead quiet.
00:25:23
jamie peacock
Ah.
00:25:27
Curt
No one's out. No one's on the streets. It's like I had to stop at the grocery store.
00:25:29
jamie peacock
But you guys have a ah public holiday tomorrow.
00:25:31
Curt
It's a holiday. Yeah, Canada Day tomorrow.
00:25:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:34
Curt
So everyone left on the Friday to go on vacation for the summer because the kids were off.
00:25:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:39
Curt
And then it's Canada Day. And people took the Friday, Monday off.
00:25:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, it took a long weekend.
00:25:42
Curt
So I think it's super, super. So no one's here. So it's just Deadsville floating around right now.
00:25:46
jamie peacock
ah that's the dream.
00:25:47
Curt
Yeah, it's it's actually my favorite thing to do. Like everyone takes like these days is holiday. So you go anywhere and it's crazy busy.
00:25:52
jamie peacock
yeah Yeah.
00:25:53
Curt
It's like these are the times I stay home.
00:25:53
jamie peacock
You stay at home and it's the best.
00:25:55
Curt
Yeah, I do the shit in town because like even with the little people, like take them out, whatever, to the museum or something.
00:25:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:00
Curt
No one's there. There's like two people because everyone's in there's 900,000 people at the beach, but no one here.
00:26:01
jamie peacock
Yeah. We...
00:26:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, we used to do that.
00:26:05
Curt
Mm
00:26:07
jamie peacock
So in December, Johannesburg gets super quiet. Well, it used to.
00:26:10
Curt
hmm.
00:26:11
jamie peacock
Everyone used to go down to Durban. But the last few, since COVID, I think people have been a bit more strapped for cash. So not as many people have gone away.
00:26:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:19
jamie peacock
But it used to be the case of you get on the freeway and you drive for 30 or 40 minutes without seeing another car. It was great.
00:26:24
Curt
Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:25
jamie peacock
Like it was the best. Like I used to go down to Durban in, we got all those public holidays in April and May. I would take 10 days off then and go on holiday. And then December would stay in Jo'burg.
00:26:37
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:38
jamie peacock
But now this year, my mother's being needy and making me go to Plett, which is coastal town and going to be a total shit show in December. Because she wants my brother and I together for Christmas because we haven't had a Christmas where we've all been together for like six or seven years.
00:26:53
jamie peacock
So she's like, no, we all need to be together. So we are flying down to Platt, renting a car, or flying to George, renting a car, driving to Platt. It's going to be fun.
00:27:02
Curt
That's cool.
00:27:03
jamie peacock
Go shoot shit on the farm.
00:27:03
Curt
That's fun.
00:27:05
jamie peacock
Go fishing with my brother. Yeah, should be should be lots of fun. Hopefully he'll be engaged by then. Like he's literally planning his wedding and he hasn't asked his girlfriend to marry him yet.
00:27:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:15
Curt
Yeah, it's kind of a prerequisite, but yeah.
00:27:16
jamie peacock
she's yeah She's planning the wedding. Her parents keep going, oh, we want kids.
00:27:19
Curt
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:27:20
jamie peacock
So she's like, not till I'm married. So she knows my brother has a ring.
00:27:23
Curt
Okay, so she's she's aware of this. That's good.
00:27:28
jamie peacock
She's planning the wedding. But yeah, they're a special bunch down there. Anyway, yeah back on to the fun machining and other things topics.
00:27:36
Curt
Machine.
00:27:38
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, you saw the pictures of my little robot with super appropriate name, Thwanker.
00:27:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:41
Curt
I did, yeah, your little sub... Flank.
00:27:46
jamie peacock
yeah
00:27:46
Curt
I like it.
00:27:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, so i put on the Subtract Manufacturing logos because I was chatting to AJ and Jacob, and we're going to be doing a bit of cross-promoting between the podcasts and whatnot.
00:27:54
Curt
Cool.
00:27:58
jamie peacock
so So i was like, may as well throw their logo on and ah hopefully drive some traffic their way from the combat robotics side of the world because a lot of the guys there look for things to be machined, and if they can have it machined domestically, then bonus because currently all of their partner shops are US-based.
00:27:59
Curt
Cool.
00:28:18
Curt
Well, and machined well.
00:28:20
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:21
jamie peacock
So, yeah, for anyone
Learning from Robotics Challenges
00:28:22
jamie peacock
who doesn't know, because they listen to us and not taps and patients for some reason, yeah, Subtract Manufacturing is a competitor to Xometry, where they actually care about the shops, basically.
00:28:32
jamie peacock
That's the gist of it. um But, yeah, it's a partner network that's ah it's all done domestically in the U.S. um If you're looking of parts to be made, you can check out Subtract Manufacturing.com. ah you'll probably deal with AJ or Jacob and yeah they have shops that they can send your parts to to have them manufactured you can send through your stuff it gets looked at by a human and quoted and yeah they'll send your stuff off from manufacture for you um but yeah I haven't got talking points he said he didn't want me to do talking points but he's getting talking points today yeah
00:28:57
Curt
yeah oh
00:29:03
Curt
yeah i like that i like when people kind of go out on you know trying to take a swing at the big guy or just you know try something different like everyone everyone has horror store yeah everyone has horror stories from uh uh zometry of just getting like yeah parts that are made out of like you know it's like oh i could have done this with a hacksaw it's like yeah that's like pretty rough but and like
00:29:08
jamie peacock
yeah they're doing something different yeah
00:29:16
jamie peacock
The competitors, yeah.
00:29:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, they I know they've had major QC issues with Xometry, but yeah. Anyway, so they've got, like it's a select partner list. They're looking for customers. They've got people queuing to join the the... pro like the ah party Yeah, they've got plenty of people wanting to be part of their network.
00:29:41
jamie peacock
Right now, they're looking for more customers so that they can they can grow the the whole brand and whatnot.
00:29:44
Curt
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay.
00:29:48
jamie peacock
But yeah, very interesting like what they're doing there. um We may have one of them on in three episodes time as a guest because, yeah, I was chatting them other day and that did come up.
00:30:01
jamie peacock
But we will chat about that after after the show. But yeah, anyway, my combat robot went and... i I ignored a key piece of combat robotics advice, which is friends don't let friends use screws in shear.
00:30:13
Curt
um okay
00:30:19
jamie peacock
And I was lazy and didn't feel like drawing the pocket that I needed to machine. So I lost my motor in three out of four fights.
00:30:26
Curt
Oh, no.
00:30:28
jamie peacock
I still won the fights because i my I had a keep away wedge so I could just control match. But my motor came loose and has no threads in it anymore.
00:30:35
Curt
what What weight class was this?
00:30:40
jamie peacock
uh,
00:30:40
Curt
Or like, how how heavy was it? Put it that way.
00:30:43
jamie peacock
225, it's fairy plus, so it's, uh, 225 grams, so I had, you know, small, well, it's M2, I ripped them straight out of the aluminium body, yeah, um, um
00:30:47
Curt
Okay, so tiny. I mean, shearing screws, you're you're still, that's a lot of juice to shear screws. Oh, okay. Okay, that's not much.
00:30:57
jamie peacock
So the first match, I only went in about a mil and a half because i didn't have any longer screws. And I was rushing to finish the robot because this robot got designed on Friday night between 5 and 6 p.m.
00:31:03
Curt
Hmm.
00:31:08
jamie peacock
I put a print on before went to bed.
00:31:08
Curt
Hmm.
00:31:10
jamie peacock
Saturday morning, I woke up. My chiller had an alarm for an hour that I could was trying to figure out. Speaking of, we need to come back to that because that's interesting things about. Got the machine running, machined all the parts by about half past 10, assembled my robot and was ready to fight at half past 11.
00:31:25
Curt
Nice.
00:31:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, but it's got a 21 gram weapon doing like, yeah, I think it's 20 or 30,000 RPM.
00:31:34
Curt
That's, yeah, a lot of lot of energy.
00:31:34
jamie peacock
It's not not exactly slow. Yeah.
00:31:37
Curt
That's a lot of juice.
00:31:37
jamie peacock
So it, yeah, it can, I ripped one of the guy's robots apart. It was great. um
00:31:42
Curt
That's cool.
00:31:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, my first fight, I lost motor and then just controlled the match and pushed him into the pit. And then the second fight, I think, yeah, I ended up getting a hit.
00:31:54
jamie peacock
Jaro chaos happened and I ended up in the pit because that's a problem.
00:31:58
Curt
so
00:31:58
jamie peacock
You got a weapon, you hit the wall, you get spinning and shit happens. And then the third fight, I dismantled the robot, ripped them weapon motor off, ripped their wheel off, broke the back, nearly hit their battery.
00:32:09
jamie peacock
Like it was glorious. So we've actually got an order of motors now. The whole, basically the whole community ordered motors. So we can all build spinning robots and break each other.
00:32:20
Curt
That's cool. That's cool.
00:32:21
jamie peacock
Yeah. So, but yeah, that was a
Troubleshooting Spindle Chiller Alarm
00:32:23
jamie peacock
lot lots of fun. The keep away wedge worked so beautifully because that's basically a it's it's long on the bottom.
00:32:26
Curt
Nice.
00:32:28
jamie peacock
It's got a scoop. So the guy's wedge gets stuck in it. So if I can win the ground game, they can't get to me.
00:32:32
Curt
Gotcha.
00:32:33
jamie peacock
And then I can just control the fight and then spin around and thwank them.
00:32:34
Curt
Yeah, yeah. Right, yeah.
00:32:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was lots of fun.
00:32:40
Curt
Oh.
00:32:40
jamie peacock
And I had to make a press fit weapon because I've broken off the threaded sections on all my motors because that's how I was attaching my weapons.
00:32:46
Curt
Mm. Mm.
00:32:49
Curt
Mm.
00:32:50
jamie peacock
ah jar lots lots of fun but anyway i ran into an issue with my chiller so i turned the machine on it's the coldest it's been and the earliest i've been in the workshop while it's been cold power on the lk and gives me a spindle chiller alarm so open the door and let all the cold air in go to the back of the alarm seven and on the spindle chiller it's i think a spin flow chiller um a
00:32:54
Curt
Mm, okay.
00:33:11
Curt
Oh, I didn't know. I wasn't aware that that machine had a chiller.
00:33:14
jamie peacock
Oh, yes.
00:33:15
Curt
Oh, sick.
00:33:16
jamie peacock
That's why I run at 12K all the time. um Anyway, got a refrigerant chiller, a nice oil chiller.
00:33:18
Curt
Okay. Fair enough.
00:33:22
jamie peacock
Alarm 7.
00:33:22
Curt
Hmm.
00:33:23
jamie peacock
It's got a list of alarms on the front. Alarm 7 is not one of them. So i hop on Google, Google the part number and manual. Nothing about the alarms. And now i'm like, okay, all I can find about this on Google is that the PC board is poked. I'm like, this can't be the PC board.
00:33:40
jamie peacock
Like, come on. It just all of a sudden is dead. And it's really cold. Hmm. Coincidence? So anyway, ended up going into ChatGPT and saying, Mr. ChatGPT, I have got a Spinflow oil chiller for my CNC machine.
00:33:52
jamie peacock
It's giving me an AL7 alarm. Give me solution. And it found some posts on Practical Machine List and CNC Zone. about it being the condenser fan.
00:34:03
Curt
Interesting.
00:34:05
jamie peacock
So push the contactors and the fan turns on and the pump turns on.
00:34:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:09
jamie peacock
So i just held them in for like 20 or 30 seconds, get some heat into them and then pull the power out, put the power back on and working.
00:34:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:18
jamie peacock
So yeah, don't know.
00:34:18
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:34:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, don't know if it was because of the cold. I reseated all the fuses. So i'm not exactly sure what caused it, but it's working again.
00:34:27
Curt
Hmm.
00:34:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm very...
00:34:28
Curt
Good. Yeah.
00:34:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, but concerning. Because the machine doesn't run without it.
00:34:32
Curt
Concerning, but good. Yeah.
00:34:34
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's been running for two or three days since then, so I'm not'm not too worried about it.
00:34:35
Curt
Hmm.
00:34:38
jamie peacock
It's just, yeah, threw a spanner in the works.
00:34:41
Curt
Yeah, no doubt.
00:34:42
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, a little bit stressful.
00:34:44
Curt
Huh.
00:34:46
Curt
Oh, slick.
Sharing Machining Strategies
00:34:47
Curt
I had no idea that machine a chiller. that's That's awesome because then you can that honk away at Sick.
00:34:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:34:53
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah, no, think it runs 12K all day. I just realized why my counter balls were a little bit off of where they were supposed to be on my robot.
00:35:02
jamie peacock
It's because my stock and my op 1 stock and my stock for op 2 were not the same. Because I did some very, very sketchy things to make machining the the wedge easier.
00:35:16
Curt
So you mean in the like the one hour of time you had to set everything up, you you were cutting corners?
00:35:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, I know. Really. Yeah, i ended up putting in, so I made it out a piece of scrap I had, but I ended up just drawing a um drawing a box to contain the wedge so I could adaptive clear that, finish contour and have a square block to put in for up two, basically.
00:35:41
Curt
yeah Yeah, of course, yeah.
00:35:42
jamie peacock
And yeah, when I did that, it stuck over half a mil, so that would explain why my counterballs weren't in the right place.
00:35:48
Curt
ah
00:35:48
jamie peacock
But not not enough that it was a problem, just looks stupid.
00:35:52
Curt
Yeah. Oh, speaking of, speaking of robots, I saw something super cool.
00:35:53
jamie peacock
But yeah, was pretty happy with that.
00:35:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:58
Curt
Uh, so when I was young, I had, I lived in a small town and one of my jobs was mowing the ditches with like a giant big flail mower, which is one of the most boring jobs in the world, but it gives you tons of time to think because you're just driving down a ditch for like miles and miles, miles mowing grass.
00:36:05
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:10
Curt
Um, um But ah the the people nowadays have a cool job because ah I was driving and they were mowing like the overpasses or the super, super steep ditches.
00:36:18
jamie peacock
yeah
00:36:20
Curt
They can't get up there with tractors or their chickens, one of the two. um So they have little robot tractors. So little person was standing at the top with like a little joystick console driving this little robot tractor up and down.
00:36:28
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:36:30
Curt
i was like, oh, I would have cut my arm off for that job. like 500-pound little robot.
00:36:34
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
00:36:36
Curt
look I like, all that's
00:36:39
jamie peacock
um
00:36:39
Curt
but
00:36:40
jamie peacock
Have you watched Clarkson's Farm?
00:36:42
Curt
A couple clips of it. I haven't sat down and watched it, no.
00:36:44
jamie peacock
Okay. So, yeah, he's got one of those and he loves that thing for mowing down brush.
00:36:48
Curt
Yeah, that's cool.
00:36:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, no. They're really cool. That show is actually really, really good. Very entertaining.
00:36:55
Curt
I like I floated the idea of like just because it would be so easy to automate my lawnmower like put a couple motors on it and put an FPV camera on it and just make lawn mowing so much more fun just sit in the garage with like a you know nice headset on and just have a drink and just like just drive my little lawnmower around like I go drive it to my neighbor's house was mow their lawn yeah all right yeah
00:37:08
jamie peacock
Yeah. You shouldn't mow your lawn that way.
00:37:16
jamie peacock
Jeez. Yeah, no, I haven't mowed a lawn since COVID. I have no intention of ever mowing a lawn again.
00:37:22
Curt
Right, yeah, you in you're you're luxurious.
00:37:25
jamie peacock
Yes. the Well, there were some memes I saw about the the South Africans farmers who all went over to the US. And it's like, ah yeah, you do realize you're no longer gonna have someone to clean your house, right?
00:37:33
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:37:36
jamie peacock
And you're gonna have no one to do your garden work for you. Like, we've got it pretty good here.
00:37:39
Curt
Yeah. Yep.
00:37:41
jamie peacock
Cleaning lady was here today. Cost me $10 for the day.
00:37:47
Curt
That's nuts. That is so insane.
00:37:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:37:49
Curt
That is so insane.
00:37:49
jamie peacock
It's... Oh, I must pay the garden service. I haven't paid them yet. A whole $35.
00:37:54
Curt
That's crazy. That is crazy.
00:37:57
jamie peacock
And they come here once a week and mow my lawn. It's great.
00:38:01
Curt
Yeah, that's a different world.
00:38:01
jamie peacock
But yeah, i i was actually chatting to... Who was I chatting to about this?
00:38:07
jamie peacock
spoken to a lot of people recently. It must have been...
00:38:11
Curt
yeah For the sake of the podcast.
00:38:11
jamie peacock
must have been Jacob.
00:38:12
Curt
I say it could be Barry for the sake of the podcast.
00:38:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, fair enough.
00:38:15
Curt
Doesn't matter. Okay.
00:38:16
jamie peacock
I know as we're discussing...
00:38:16
Curt
Okay.
00:38:17
jamie peacock
was chatting to John. That's who it was. We're discussing shop rates. And I was saying our shop rates are hilariously low, but also our cost of living here is hilariously low compared to North America.
00:38:29
Curt
Totally. Yeah. all
00:38:30
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, it's...
00:38:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:32
jamie peacock
a
00:38:33
Curt
Yeah. Like we said, it's, it all scales. Yeah, for sure.
00:38:34
jamie peacock
It all scales, yeah. Like, we we're just even comparing just a loaf of bread. Like, a loaf of bread, yeah, is 80 US cents.
00:38:45
Curt
That is so cheap.
00:38:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:38:46
Curt
Okay. That makes sense. That's up. Yeah, of course.
00:38:47
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, that's it.
00:38:48
jamie peacock
Like, though it's, yeah, almost an order of magnitude different from here, especially like fast food and stuff, here to the US.
00:38:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:55
jamie peacock
Like, it was silly to see the difference were there for IMTS.
00:39:00
Curt
yeah yeah Yeah, I hear it's spending.
00:39:01
jamie peacock
But also that was Chicago, which is apparently expensive.
00:39:06
Curt
Well, in that time of year, everyone's just going to jack the prices yeah because they know you're hosed.
00:39:08
jamie peacock
Especially. Yeah. Oh no, hotels. Straight up, double the price.
00:39:13
Curt
Totally, yeah.
00:39:13
jamie peacock
Like Danica was looking and they straight up double the price.
00:39:14
Curt
Yep.
00:39:16
Curt
Yep. Yep.
00:39:18
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's just, yeah, business.
00:39:18
Curt
Just like people... Just like people that want to come up here to like our, you know, visitor whatever mountains and stuff like that during the summer when it's like, yeah, it's peak season.
00:39:25
jamie peacock
Yeah, when it's nice, yeah.
00:39:25
Curt
Like the price is just, if you go like off peak season, everything is dirty. Like they literally shut down. Like there's this one town I go to, um which ah I mean, if.
00:39:37
Curt
don't want to say because don't want to blow it up. um But all the Canadians will go to like small towns. Not that we're going to blow it up on this podcast.
00:39:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:43
Curt
um But like Canadians will go to different towns and then like Americans and overseas people will come to like Banff and stuff like that because they're like, oh, they read about it.
00:39:44
jamie peacock
Yet.
00:39:49
jamie peacock
Yet.
00:39:50
Curt
and And no, it's beautiful. Like don't like if you're going to go go, It's beautiful.
00:39:53
jamie peacock
Yet.
00:39:54
Curt
It's just also very expensive and it's very touristy.
00:39:56
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:39:56
Curt
um
00:39:56
jamie peacock
It's true, so they rip the ring.
00:39:59
Curt
Yeah, but then like you go there in like the off season and like hotels will just literally shut down for like six months because it's like no one's going to be here. So it's like we'll just completely close and just like it's wild.
00:40:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:09
Curt
But anyways, I guess I guess I should get back to ah topic talk.
00:40:09
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, that's... Yeah, that's insane. But yeah. Yes, have you ever used pitbulls?
00:40:16
Curt
So. ah No, I have not. Nope.
00:40:21
jamie peacock
Oh, okay. So EJ's having some trouble with Mighty Bar pitbulls.
00:40:22
Curt
Have you?
00:40:25
Curt
Hmm.
00:40:26
jamie peacock
I've had similar troubles with harder materials with pitbulls, where I can't get the bloody things to hold.
00:40:26
Curt
Hmm.
00:40:31
jamie peacock
Um...
00:40:32
Curt
Right.
00:40:32
jamie peacock
So yeah, I thought we'd quickly cover some AnchorPoint workflow recommendations because obviously use mine all the time, but I have a very specific workflow that I run through there.
00:40:43
jamie peacock
So generally speaking, the only time I'm going to op one anything on an AnchorPoint is if it's a superglue fixture. Yeah. Otherwise, it's going into a vase.
00:40:55
jamie peacock
I've got the the the two self-centrings in a mooring point pallet.
00:40:55
Curt
right
00:40:59
jamie peacock
So they go onto the anchor point, but in a vase. I can hold the part properly and go to town on it. And then my op 2 generally is held a little bit lighter. The work holding isn't always great, but we're not hogging off like a shitload of material.
00:41:14
jamie peacock
And if we are going to hog off a lot of material, we're bolting it to the pallet.
00:41:15
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:41:18
jamie peacock
Like the anchor point bodies, the Op 1 is in the vase. The Op 2, it bolts four M10 bolts. That thing is going nowhere. And then you can go to town. Because I use the anchor points more as an almost disposable work-holding method. Like the pallets are cheap enough that I can make a pallet for a one-off or for a five-off or for something.
00:41:40
jamie peacock
Kind of treat it like soft jaws almost, where I machine a pocket with ah with a clamp. And then I know where where the part is and I can do my machining on. But yeah, EJ and I have been chatting because he's been battling with the pit bulls, holding stainless on ah on his pallets.
00:41:54
jamie peacock
He's now
Self-Sufficient Screw Production
00:41:55
jamie peacock
got the talon grips as well.
00:41:55
Curt
Right.
00:41:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:00
jamie peacock
And I think, i don't know, it's either not getting enough force or not indenting into the material.
00:42:06
Curt
I say, can you do the can you do like the fifth axis trick of just squonking it and build a fixture just to basically like pinch your parts?
00:42:13
jamie peacock
Well, assets I said to him, just put it in a vase, do your op 1 in a vase, and then you've got the bolt holes to bolt it into op 2 on the, you do three at a time for op 2 on the anchor point.
00:42:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:22
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:23
jamie peacock
But he wants to do op 1 on the anchor point. So I said to him, you need to tighten those pit balls, put a piece of plate behind them so that they actually a little further forward, so they bite properly.
00:42:25
Curt
Hmm.
00:42:32
jamie peacock
Because I think the dimensions might be might have them that when you tighten them all the way down, they're not actually digging into the material.
00:42:33
Curt
Sure, yeah.
00:42:40
jamie peacock
Because they are the knife edge ones. So they should actually indent.
00:42:43
Curt
Hmm, okay.
00:42:44
jamie peacock
And if they indent, that thing should go nowhere.
00:42:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:46
jamie peacock
But I don't know.
00:42:47
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:42:48
jamie peacock
Like I know, so I was speaking to someone and they're saying, they took the dimensions off the Mighty Bout website for their pit bulls. And it leaves a gap behind the pit bull. And I'm like, what? It's meant to be touching that back wall.
00:43:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:01
jamie peacock
No, I don't know. It's bit weird. I know I messed up some geometry on my ones. I ended up putting a two millimeter shim behind them. Aluminium shim, just so that they would actually clamp the way they're supposed to clamp back when I used to use them to do my, the mag bases I used to do.
00:43:18
jamie peacock
Well, I still do, but now just do them in self-centering vases, two at a time, and
00:43:22
jamie peacock
knock them out that way. I used to do them, I think, three at a time on a fixture and then have an op two fixture next to that. So I'd run every time my head cycle starts, I'd get off three finished parts.
00:43:22
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:33
jamie peacock
But then your material prep condition's got to be right because if the material comes in and is a little bit too thick, then your pit, or a little bit too thin, your pit balls don't grip it enough and then it throws apart, breaks the end mill.
00:43:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:45
Curt
yeah
00:43:46
jamie peacock
So yeah, it's yeah i'm not I'm not the biggest fan of the of the pit bulls. The last time I tried to use them, I threw a piece of 7075 and destroyed an animal on LK.
00:43:51
Curt
yeah
00:43:57
Curt
Yeah, haven't played enough. Also, I don't, I don't, if I throw things, I would be like, owie.
00:43:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:44:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:44:03
Curt
It's not going to, it's not damage anything in my world.
00:44:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, you're not exactly...
00:44:05
Curt
Yeah. Like I could catch it.
00:44:06
jamie peacock
yeah you're not exactly doing huge things.
00:44:08
Curt
Yeah. No, no, no big boy work.
00:44:09
jamie peacock
But, yeah.
00:44:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:11
jamie peacock
So now the important question is, are you making screws for these pens?
00:44:14
Curt
mean
00:44:17
Curt
Uh, for these pens that are going out, they are going to use up all the remaining stock of screws I have. Cause they're like lower price pens. And like I said, a batch of them is going to a company. Um, but all the other ones, I hope, I hope I don't place order for screws anymore.
00:44:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. Okay.
00:44:32
Curt
Like, uh, I have a gang of them ready to go. i have like 16 different little tools. I did ah bunch of different tool, um, tool paths and operations, uh, I'm just going keep plugging away.
00:44:42
Curt
um i just go to agree I have to make it work. i want to make it work because I'm sick of buying screws.
00:44:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:44:47
Curt
and They're not that expensive, like $3 or $4 each, but it's just like one of those things where like, oh, I hate spending, you know, like $1,000 on screws.
00:44:53
jamie peacock
yeah
00:44:54
Curt
And then just like, I can make them. And yeah. I mean, are they any cheaper now? No, they're definitely not cheaper, but still, it's just like, I can't, I can do it.
00:45:00
jamie peacock
yeah
00:45:02
Curt
Like, so.
00:45:03
jamie peacock
No, fair enough.
00:45:04
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:04
jamie peacock
It's one of those things that you want to do it. You probably shouldn't, but you want to.
00:45:07
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, well, I think I can do it. I'm going to try like air blast. Like I have a bunch of things where I'm just going to sequentially try them just so I can try to narrow down which one it is.
00:45:14
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:15
Curt
um I'm also, I was listening to the business of machining podcast and actually I think it was, i think it was foot pedal Jones who told me on Instagram that he's like, possibly maybe you're starving your screw, like your ball screw.
00:45:28
Curt
Cause like it's moving, you know, 30, 40,000 for five, five, 10 minutes in one little spot.
00:45:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:45:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:45:35
Curt
Um,
00:45:37
Curt
So I might just try a little, like come out of the cut, move to the edge of the pallet, move back and then keep honking.
00:45:40
jamie peacock
Move. Yeah.
00:45:43
Curt
I don't think that's the issue. Um, but like, uh, yeah.
00:45:45
jamie peacock
No, it shouldn't starve in a couple minutes. Like, if it's doing it for an hour, then yeah, it's going to starve it. But, yeah.
00:45:52
Curt
So, uh, just, uh,
00:45:53
jamie peacock
Because your oiling cycle on your machine should be like 40 minutes or so.
00:45:56
Curt
Yeah, I cranked it down to like, I think it does it every half hour so. But yeah, and the screws are dripping.
00:45:59
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:01
Curt
Like ah anytime I look like there's, i'm I'm burning more oil than it, but whatever.
00:46:02
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:05
Curt
It's going to extend the life of everything.
00:46:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:07
Curt
So yeah, so there's just a couple of things, but the same thing.
00:46:10
jamie peacock
Converting your style to an oil machine. Yeah.
00:46:12
Curt
it basically It basically is. Yeah, I know I should skim the oil off and then pour it back in. and Oil is cheap, so it's way cheaper than ball screws. So I just just freaking
00:46:19
jamie peacock
Yeah,
Improving Machining Efficiency
00:46:20
Curt
flood the bitch.
00:46:21
Curt
um Yeah, I know. There's like, I want to put all the changes at once and see if it works, but that's like, it's not the...
00:46:23
jamie peacock
no, 100%.
00:46:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, but you know better than that. What's it? It's ah the difference between sort team playing around and doing science. It's taking notes.
00:46:35
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:46:36
jamie peacock
Like, see what, yeah, take notes and see what works.
00:46:37
Curt
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, i know. i so I was like, okay, let's try these. And I mean, that's perfect because those are things I can, that's the exact use for your pallets. The whole reason I wanted your pallet is because it's tedious loading up.
00:46:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:51
Curt
Like, let's say I want to put a pallet of a hundred screws on. Stupid annoying to load up. But if it runs for like six hours, I don't give a shit.
00:46:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:59
jamie peacock
That's fine, yeah.
00:47:00
Curt
Like it takes me an hour to load.
00:47:00
jamie peacock
Exactly.
00:47:01
Curt
Like I'll throw podcast on, load them up. Yeah.
00:47:04
jamie peacock
yeah Today i was running I've got a pallet for running the the piston, the Op2 on the pistons for the anchor points.
00:47:04
Curt
ah
00:47:11
jamie peacock
And that pallet, I don't even take of the machine. I load it in the machine because it's just it's consumable workholding to me. um But yeah, that's why I have it. It makes life easy.
00:47:23
jamie peacock
and okay yeah Again, optimizing stuff until it's annoying. like yeah even the yeah even the backers same story i've got a pallet for them i' have one pallet didn't bother making a second one i think i might make a second one this time because they're a bit of a mission to load and it has to come in and out but yeah i can that's been consuming my know if you saw the pictures of the racks up put up or the video i posted today i laser cut some racks for my locating pins oh okay i like the design i think it's spiffy um
00:47:23
Curt
yeah yeah yeah but but but yeah exactly
00:47:38
Curt
hmm hmm
00:47:47
Curt
I have... No, I have not. I have not seen that.
00:47:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:57
jamie peacock
Let me just quick. Yeah, doing doing shit on the podcast, as always. um There we go.
00:48:02
Curt
to like I got to get my soundboard up so I can put all the Jeopardy music in.
00:48:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, do the singing. Do the singing. Hang on. There we go.
00:48:09
jamie peacock
I will do the the loading thing.
00:48:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:10
Curt
to tomb
00:48:12
jamie peacock
Instagram direct.
00:48:13
Curt
and
00:48:14
jamie peacock
There you go. Go look at that quickly, guys.
00:48:20
Curt
You're sending me like...
00:48:21
jamie peacock
Professionalism at its peak.
00:48:26
Curt
Jamie shared a link with you.
00:48:27
jamie peacock
i
00:48:29
Curt
What are you showing me, Jamie? What?
00:48:32
jamie peacock
I'm just busy reading things. I sent you story.
00:48:36
Curt
oh Oh, I see. Oh, those are pretty. They're just like big laser cut.
00:48:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, laser cut. Yeah, super simple.
00:48:40
Curt
Yeah, those are nice. Yeah.
00:48:42
jamie peacock
Because I've got to go pick up all the material for that tomorrow, so I'm going to machining those, and then I want to just straight up stack them.
00:48:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:47
jamie peacock
Everything's built in batches of 20 or 25.
00:48:50
jamie peacock
All my racking, because then I can always just scale up relatively easily.
00:48:50
Curt
Nice.
00:48:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:54
Curt
Yep.
00:48:55
jamie peacock
But yeah, oh yes, we skipped over my number one thing for the week.
00:48:55
Curt
Yeah, it's same.
00:49:02
jamie peacock
Always
00:49:02
Curt
What is this?
Innovative Resin Machining Projects
00:49:03
jamie peacock
have spare jaw bolts for your chuck.
00:49:07
Curt
Jaw bolts.
00:49:08
jamie peacock
Yes, to bolt the jaws onto your chuck on your lathe.
00:49:12
Curt
Oh, OK, I see.
00:49:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, I was changing them over and I stripped a bolt and then machine stands.
00:49:18
Curt
Oh, OK, fair.
00:49:19
jamie peacock
So I could go get bolts. Yeah, always have spare bolts. But yeah, running the K110 landing pads. So those, now tomorrow they're going get turned round.
00:49:30
jamie peacock
ah I'll make soft jaws and then I'm going to leave comma 15 this time, not comma 5, to make grinding easy and quick.
00:49:38
Curt
Fair enough. Yeah, that seems like a smart idea.
00:49:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, so... Yeah, seems like a much better plan than leaving half a millimeter like a moron. um But yeah, that actually went pretty smoothly running the...
00:49:45
Curt
Living.
00:49:48
jamie peacock
I did all the material prep, then I did all the Op 1 and 2s. I had some 13.5mm U-drills that wouldn't work so they didn't work so well in aluminum for some reason, but they ran beautifully in K110.
00:50:00
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:50:00
jamie peacock
So I started off by pushing a 14.2 hole into the the piece of k one ten no problem. And then yeah one set of inserts ran off all 22 of the pads that I was making.
00:50:13
Curt
Oh, nice. Nice.
00:50:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, so pretty pretty happy with how that works. My WNMG inserts did not appreciate it because I was doing 300 sfm surface feet per minute because that's just the RPM I was running at.
00:50:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:27
jamie peacock
And then obviously it dips down as you get closer to the center. But yeah, did not appreciate that at all.
00:50:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:36
jamie peacock
Ooh, before I forget, need call out our lovely patrons who make the wheels on the podcast go round and round.
00:50:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:43
jamie peacock
ah Thank you to Jade from Benchmark20 and Luke from Fabtastic for being the top tier Patreons.
00:50:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:50
jamie peacock
There's also a list on the website of all the Patreons in order of which they joined. um And on said website, you can find the companion guide for all the dumb words I like to use, as well as links through to the merch store and through to Kurtz and Mystles.
00:51:06
jamie peacock
So yeah, check it out there.
00:51:06
Curt
Yay.
00:51:09
jamie peacock
Um, yeah. Um, so, we're not quite at the time where we need to wrap it up yet, but have you been Googling things, Kurt?
00:51:09
Curt
Nice.
00:51:13
Curt
One else.
00:51:18
Curt
I have been Googling things. I've been thinking about more things that have been Googling. Most my Google search history is kind of boring. um Actually, one thing that was kind of fun is ah so I talked about last time how on those little mechanisms i was working on, the resin parts were just kind of craptastic.
00:51:31
jamie peacock
Yes. Oh, yes.
00:51:33
Curt
The tolerance is kind of, yeah, it was kind of all over the yeah all over the show.
00:51:33
jamie peacock
Machining resin.
00:51:37
Curt
um But I realized what I might try, even though I have like a bunch of weird plastics and titanium, and I am going to make titanium versions, I'll probably make delrin versions. What I'm going to try, just for giggles because it's not going to cost me anything, is I'm going print some of the resin ones oversized ah on the the critical features, 10 thou oversize on both sides.
00:51:46
jamie peacock
yeah okay
00:51:54
Curt
And then I'm going machine it. I want to see how, because it's the resin I have is a resin for machining. like It's for tapping, drilling.
00:52:00
jamie peacock
okay yeah you've just taking a little bit off of the critical faces
00:52:00
Curt
like you can So I'm going to try machining it and see if that solves my issue because that would still let me build a very cost-effective little widget. um
00:52:12
Curt
Totally, yeah. And it'll it'll go into soft jaws. And the the soft jaw can be basically like it can flip-flop on it. So it's not a problem.
00:52:18
jamie peacock
yeah okay
00:52:18
Curt
it It self-indexes just by its geometry. um So I think that might work. So I'm going to try it and and see how it behaves. And that would let me ah yeah let me still build a cost-effective unit because...
00:52:25
jamie peacock
go
00:52:30
Curt
I kind of, everybody that was interested in it, um I just asked them all, I'm like, hey, but what would you pay for this version or this version? And like, I got i got the gambit.
00:52:36
jamie peacock
yeah
00:52:38
Curt
Like I got everything from, i was like, okay, well, there's literally more money in just the material in there to like, that is so much more than I would ever have considered selling it for. So it it was useless data, but it was still nice to know.
00:52:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:50
Curt
So, but yeah, um I'm curious to see how it is, how that how that works out.
00:52:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:54
Curt
So I might try that just for, that's kind of a fun project more than anything.
00:52:55
jamie peacock
Okay. Yeah, if you want, I'll send you, i can send you my car line clamp files. Because then you just machine a pocket and then pop two car line clamps that you're not holding with a shitload of force instead of making soft jaws.
00:53:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:10
jamie peacock
Like, it's a super easy way to hold it.
00:53:11
Curt
i'm
00:53:13
Curt
That might work. I'm just I'm worried about like marring the surface. So that's the only reason I'm going soft jaws is so like
00:53:17
jamie peacock
So your machine you machine the car line clamp to the same profile?
00:53:22
Curt
I guess. I guess that would be no different than it.
00:53:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:23
Curt
Like a soft jaw is only going to bite on at the most two, three points anyways.
00:53:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:27
Curt
So that's a good point.
00:53:28
Curt
That's a good point.
00:53:29
jamie peacock
so literally, that's what I that's all i tend to do is machine um machine up a bunch of the car line style clamps.
00:53:34
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:34
jamie peacock
And then like I needed longer ones for a certain job. Generally, I'll push on a flat surface, but there's no reason you can't put a custom profile. And then you machine a pocket in for your part, and then just put your two car lines on the side.
00:53:41
Curt
Totally.
00:53:44
jamie peacock
You drop it in, and it it just pushes it against the edge.
00:53:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:47
jamie peacock
It might be an option instead of going the whole soft jaw route.
00:53:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:51
Curt
It'd be wise. If I could suck hard enough, I could just suck.
00:53:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:54
Curt
You're machining resin. You could hold it my fingers.
00:53:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:57
Curt
But... but
00:53:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:59
Curt
I'm not, I'm not going to do it. I'm not doing a million of them right now. So even if it took me forever just to try the few, I can, I can test with it.
00:54:03
jamie peacock
yeah
00:54:04
Curt
Cause I know if I know me, I like to sink a crap ton of time into making something efficient grip for production. and then be like, Oh, this doesn't work with shit. So it's like, okay, well i just wasted a week.
00:54:13
jamie peacock
yeah
00:54:13
Curt
like
00:54:15
jamie peacock
So yeah speaking of resin prints, I needed wheels for the robots.
00:54:15
Curt
Try not to do that.
00:54:18
jamie peacock
are Quickly modeled up in one millimeter increments, five different wheel sizes, threw them on the printer and printed out four sets of those in like an hour.
00:54:19
Curt
Hmm.
00:54:26
jamie peacock
And there we go. Wheels sorted.
00:54:28
Curt
cool.
00:54:29
jamie peacock
Now, yeah, I frigging dig it. You just push the push it straight on size for size, fits the the motor shaft with a little bit of force, doesn't come off. Yeah, resin printers are magic, like straight up
00:54:37
Curt
Nice. They are.
Economic Impacts on Production
00:54:39
jamie peacock
magic.
00:54:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:41
jamie peacock
But yeah, if you...
00:54:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:42
jamie peacock
If you're going you're goingnna if you're gonna machine those, I'd say cut a pocket and just gently hold them in the pocket with some press stick.
00:54:43
Curt
So you would, if you,
00:54:50
Curt
that's a good idea. That's a good idea.
00:54:51
jamie peacock
yeah
00:54:52
Curt
I should probably do that.
00:54:54
jamie peacock
like Even if you make just a little clamp that just holds them down.
00:54:54
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:58
Curt
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:54:59
jamie peacock
like
00:54:59
Curt
That's all I would need. Just like.
00:55:00
jamie peacock
It's not a lot of force you're putting onto them.
00:55:03
Curt
No, I could literally use a glue stick and just glue them to a piece of like there's there's going to be no for it's taking five tenth thou of resin off a part like it's going to be nothing.
00:55:11
jamie peacock
machine a pocket, hot glue it in, and then put isopropyl to release the hot glue.
00:55:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:15
Curt
It's not a bad idea, except I think the hog would make it too tall.
00:55:16
jamie peacock
There you go.
00:55:18
Curt
But anyway, yeah, it thousand ways it's going to get.
00:55:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, there's yeah this million ways to do something.
00:55:24
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:24
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, that that's the good old one. Ask 10 machinists how to do something and you'll get 11 answers.
00:55:30
Curt
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, no doubt. It's just like we all have our own go-tos.
00:55:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, that's it.
00:55:35
Curt
So
00:55:36
jamie peacock
Everyone has the way they prefer to do it.
00:55:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, so.
00:55:43
Curt
see. Well, you tell me what's in your Google search and I'll see if I find anything interesting that's in mine.
00:55:45
jamie peacock
Oh, okay. That's fine. Wordle, we're on, I think, 15. Trying buy a servo for my combat robot still.
00:55:50
Curt
Ooh. Mm-hmm.
00:55:52
jamie peacock
ah Don't know why I was looking. Oh, i was looking at tunnel to calculate shipping rates. um Ooh, got some door updates for my workshop. I was looking at a compressed air dryer, just for shits and giggles.
00:56:07
jamie peacock
Trying to find white, any cubic ABS-like resin. was looking up the DMC2 because someone said they were getting one for free or something, which is the Serif machine.
00:56:18
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:56:18
jamie peacock
I think we'll rip into that and in the after show as well to not cause too much crap. Then looking up my Spinflow chiller, trying to find a manual. Danica trying to show me the ugly website she's been working on.
00:56:32
jamie peacock
um I know these people are like, we want the website to just show the people what they want to see. Danica's like, the website is not telepathic. Like, yeah, has built them.
00:56:42
Curt
Oh, okay. It's someone else's. I thought you were just throwing massive shade at like something we're working on.
00:56:44
jamie peacock
no, not ours. No, no, no. No, no, no, no. She's ah doing web development. So yeah, she subcontracts
00:56:52
Curt
Gotcha. Gotcha.
Insights from Google Searches
00:56:54
jamie peacock
to one of her friends' dads or whatever.
00:56:56
jamie peacock
um But yeah, these people are fucking clowns. Basically, she's built them for 14 hours now and said to them, this, what you want is not doable in WordPress and it's not doable by me either.
00:57:02
Curt
Hmm.
00:57:09
jamie peacock
So here's my build, go somewhere else.
00:57:09
Curt
Hmm.
00:57:12
jamie peacock
Anyway, looking at PVC, meat I call them meat curtains, like freezer curtains, those clear PVC strips.
00:57:19
Curt
ah
00:57:21
Curt
Yeah, yeah,
00:57:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, we had one where used to work to the EDM room because it was air-conned. I want to put a fourth rail on my R-beam in front of my
PVC Strip Door Installation
00:57:30
jamie peacock
door. That is my door. I put a fourth rail with one of those on that's about 1.5 meters wide so that I can open the door, pull that in the way, can see through it to see if someone's in my driveway, but won't let air through. like It won't let a breeze come into my workshop because it's frigging cold right now.
00:57:47
jamie peacock
But also when I aircon it, I can see outside and not lose all my air conditioning.
00:57:47
Curt
Right.
00:57:52
Curt
That's nice. Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I was looking into that. Also, the insulation for my door arrived, so I need to start installing all the insulation because temperature and sound, because I'm going to be running all night long for multiple days.
00:58:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:06
jamie peacock
So I thought, let me not be a total, utter thundercunt and insulate my doors.
00:58:14
Curt
That's my favorite. i haven't heard that one in a while. That one's one of my favorites.
00:58:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's one of favorites.
00:58:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:17
jamie peacock
No, I try not to be a dick to my neighbors, except for the one. He deserves it.
00:58:24
Curt
Yeah, no, it's same same thing.
00:58:24
jamie peacock
Not yeah.
00:58:25
Curt
just Yeah, good good ah good fences build good neighbors and good soundproofing builds good neighbors. So, yeah.
00:58:30
jamie peacock
Yes. Or beer. Beer builds good neighbors too.
00:58:33
Curt
Yeah, beer helps. Yeah, beer. Yeah, exactly.
00:58:35
jamie peacock
Yes. But that's only with the two that don't need a big fence.
00:58:39
Curt
Yeah,
Enhancing Audio for Podcasting
00:58:40
Curt
yeah, cool.
00:58:40
jamie peacock
Yeah. So what have you been? What have you been goggling?
00:58:43
Curt
Okay, so I've been goggling. I came across one thing. I mean, some of it was just like podcast audio-related jargon. um Actually, I was looking at...
00:58:50
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:58:52
Curt
um it's It's a thing called a virtual audio cable because I'm trying to splice... Like when I record on this microphone, we put the raw audio into Zencaster, which isn't honestly all that great, um where I have processed audio that goes through here, but there's it's in the computer.
00:59:00
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:59:04
Curt
So to get it into Zencaster, Zencaster doesn't like to... It's kind of limited in what you can do with it. Um, so there's a virtual, virtual audio cable where I think I can pipe the, the good sound directly in.
00:59:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:59:14
Curt
So hopefully Danica can have cleaner sound to edit, you know, compressors and all that jazz on it, which Zencaster does.
00:59:17
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:59:20
Curt
But anyways, um, so yeah, lots of Googling on that stuff, trying to get that playing well.
00:59:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Exploring Smart Lathes
00:59:24
Curt
And, uh, something, um, think civil machine on Instagram, uh, he listened to the last podcast and he's like Hey, he's like, if you're looking at lathes, he's like, have a look at smart lathe.
00:59:29
jamie peacock
Mm?
00:59:34
Curt
Um, I'm assuming just by looking at it, it's an overseas manufacturer of lathes, but they have a Swiss.
00:59:41
jamie peacock
Smart, as in smart with machine tools, or...
00:59:46
Curt
It's just smartlathes.com.
00:59:48
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:59:49
Curt
um um just literally with the end so he sent me he had a quote on like ah it's basically like it's Swiss style it's not a it's not like a sliding ah like not a bushing it just like and it's not even it's sliding headstock whatever you call it
00:59:51
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah, there we go, smartlead.com. Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:04
jamie peacock
Yeah. The turret. Yeah. yeah
01:00:09
Curt
um It clamps and it doesn't free move the bar. um But the pricing on it was just like really good. um So I was like, ooh. And it was it was like Y-axe, like live tool. Maybe not Y-axis, but live tool C-axis.
01:00:20
Curt
um but Like four live tools, four axial tools live. And then a bunch of turning tools. So and the price was really reasonable. um So I've been looking at them because they have ah Swiss machines as well. Um, and just kind of just more out of curiosity than anything.
01:00:34
Curt
Uh, I think most of the controls are like, uh, like syntax controls, which, but they have like, I'd say they have a Mitsubishi and FANUC on the Swiss version that I've been looking at.
01:00:39
jamie peacock
Yeah. Now they've got options for Siemens.
01:00:45
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I see that.
01:00:47
Curt
Um, so I might shake their tree and just kind of get a quote just to kind of see, I don't know if I really would want a Swiss machine without a ton of local support. Um, but curious to see what the price would be anyways.
01:00:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:00:59
Curt
Um,
01:01:00
jamie peacock
You also... Yeah, I'm looking at this now. You're a bad... Oh, no, this is a guard-bushing one. Like, full-on guard-bushing. They're Swiss ones.
01:01:10
Curt
The Swiss one is, yeah, he was showing me their SL one, which is ah it's basically like a chucker, but it's kind of like a half measure between Swiss and chucker.
01:01:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:17
Curt
It's like a really small chucker. um
01:01:19
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, I've seen these guys online.
01:01:23
Curt
I think it was on the gang. I think it was an SL.
Debate on Machine Aesthetics
01:01:25
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm looking at... Yeah, SL, they've SL36, SL25. Ooh.
01:01:25
Curt
ah Yeah, the SL something or other.
01:01:30
jamie peacock
a
01:01:30
Curt
Yeah, they're cute little lays. Yeah, they're kind of interesting.
01:01:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, this is a problem.
01:01:34
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:34
jamie peacock
i need to not look at this web page. So I was looking at something very similar from Sano, which is a Chinese manufacturer that is brought in by WD Hearn.
01:01:37
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:41
Curt
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
01:01:47
jamie peacock
I was looking at one when I was at Machine Tool Africa.
01:01:47
Curt
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
01:01:50
Curt
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
01:01:52
jamie peacock
I'm looking at the drill tap series now. This is a problem. Why do you do this?
01:01:55
Curt
Yeah, no, they got neat little things. it's kind of
01:01:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:58
Curt
I think I came across them while ago, and I was like, oh, cool, and I just kind of totally spaced on it. So I'm i'm glad he ah i glad he sent me the link on it because yeah they're interesting.
01:02:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm looking at their high performance, because obviously, but anyway, okay, let's stop looking at things on the podcast.
01:02:13
Curt
ah
01:02:14
jamie peacock
um Yeah, no, very, very cool looking looking machine tools.
01:02:18
Curt
yeah and they're gray which i mean are like whitish gray which kind of matches everything else i have which is a consideration for me i i like it is i like things that match yeah i do if i'm going to spend a bunch of money on a machine i want it to match i want it to be
01:02:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:22
jamie peacock
Really, really, Curse, is that a consideration for you?
01:02:32
jamie peacock
No comment.
01:02:34
jamie peacock
i'm assuming you move I'm assuming you moved your camera, not your style.
01:02:34
Curt
well like the what
01:02:39
Curt
Yeah, it's sorry, dude. I just little twisted. But yeah, like like listening to the he the Henry Holster episode um where he was like talking about how like they could have optioned their machine instead of that like blue.
01:02:41
jamie peacock
Okay, there we go. That makes me feel better, Kurt. I don't like change.
01:02:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, the orange.
01:02:53
Curt
ah like the ah Yeah, he could have optioned it to orange.
01:02:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:57
Curt
and was like I mean, ah no no disrespect to whatever he wants to do, but like I would have that in a heartbeat. I don't care. I want it to match.
01:03:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, the problem becomes resale then because then it's some super special like, yeah.
01:03:08
Curt
Sure, sure. But yeah, it's like at that price, like, yeah, wait the extra and get it paint matched.
01:03:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, they latest the
01:03:15
Curt
Like, but I'm, yeah, I love those guys.
01:03:16
jamie peacock
their latest episode was very interesting.
01:03:19
Curt
Yeah, they have great podcasts.
01:03:20
jamie peacock
The one from this morning. Yeah, they went into detail on their, Pearson went into detail on the vacuum generator units and whatnot.
01:03:27
jamie peacock
And they're like, yeah, vacuum pump's great, right? Until it gets full of epoxy. I'm like, that is why you have a vacuum trap.
01:03:27
Curt
Oh.
01:03:32
Curt
Yeah.
01:03:34
Curt
Yeah, yeah, there's ways around it for sure.
01:03:34
jamie peacock
Also, my vacuum pump I bought cost a quarter of a VPU.
01:03:40
Curt
Yeah, yeah, I know.
01:03:41
jamie peacock
Like, if it dies, I go buy another one.
01:03:41
Curt
It's the, yeah.
01:03:45
jamie peacock
Like, I have two of the Arnidolf stores within 20 minutes driving distance.
01:03:51
Curt
Yeah.
01:03:51
jamie peacock
So I just go pick up another one and carry on with my life. But, yeah, interesting.
01:03:55
Curt
Well, and like were like we're we were chatting about like the VPU that they make, like the the vacuum they're pulling on it is impressive. Like that is a ton of, ton of ah vacuum that they're pulling.
01:04:01
jamie peacock
It's really impressive. Yeah.
01:04:05
Curt
So anyway, anyway.
01:04:06
jamie peacock
And also only 0.8 CFM is really impressive. um
01:04:10
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:11
jamie peacock
But that's 0.8 CFM of compressed air that I need to give this thing. And yeah, makes sense because if a Venturi vacuum sucks up a bunch of coolant, guess what?
01:04:15
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:19
jamie peacock
It shoots it out the exhaust. Whereas a little vacuum pump like I've got currently, it's going through there and aspirating oil into, it also aspirates oil into my workshop, but I don't really give a shit about that. There's bigger sources of aspirated oil in my workshop.
01:04:32
Curt
Your lungs will filter it. Yeah.
01:04:34
jamie peacock
Exactly. My machine flings coolants all day.
01:04:35
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:37
jamie peacock
Bertha was a little, was running my, um, my soft jaws, which are giant and flat, effectively a fan at 2000 RPM.
Vacuum Pump Experiences
01:04:46
jamie peacock
Yeah. There's bigger sources of sticky shit in the air in my workshop than a little vacuum pump.
01:04:53
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:54
jamie peacock
But, uh, lungs are great at, uh, at filtering that stuff out.
01:04:56
Curt
Cool.
01:04:59
Curt
Yeah, and that's what I thought for a while too. And then I decided I should probably not kill myself slowly in here.
01:05:04
jamie peacock
ah what's happening with your with your mysteries
01:05:07
Curt
Ha!
Payment Frustrations with Distributor
01:05:08
Curt
That's me trying to pay literally thousands of dollars to my Canadian distributor. So if anyone buys a style machine in Canada, just be aware that the distributor is kind of... interesting to deal with he seems like a nice guy but i'm like do you want your company to die a slow death because like i'm literally trying to pay you like five thousand dollars and you're just you're just ghosting me it's like and every time i shake his tree he's like i'm sorry i'll get back to you tomorrow and it's like a week passes i shake his tree oh just like i'm trying to give you money i'm not asking for anything i'm just trying to give you money it's like how are you gonna survive like weird weird weird little cat
01:05:18
jamie peacock
okay yeah
01:05:32
jamie peacock
Oh yeah, getting quotes out of people. Yeah.
01:05:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, there's way too many of way too many of those in the world.
01:05:48
Curt
And he's a single operator shop.
01:05:48
jamie peacock
We busy.
01:05:49
Curt
It's not like it's a giant. Anyway, I don't want i want to throw more shade at him than that.
01:05:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:53
Curt
But yeah, if you don't want to take money from people, enjoy starving.
01:05:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, pretty much. that is yeah That is a pretty accurate statement there.
01:06:02
Curt
Yeah. Well, that's like i said, that gets into my pet peeve of laziness.
01:06:03
jamie peacock
that
01:06:05
Curt
That's all it is is just laziness.
01:06:06
jamie peacock
yeah yeah we'll do another show shortly uh yeah so um yeah what are you up to the for the rest of the week or for this week
01:06:07
Curt
Like and just just that infuriates me and infuriates me. Don't be lazy. Don't be lazy.
01:06:14
Curt
i Now I'm all fired up. let's do the Let's do the after show so I can rip into something.
01:06:24
Curt
Uh, this week I have two more operations to finish on the little mill and then machining is finished. I can just do cleaning, buffing, anodizing. I'm going to do a whole host of colors. So I'm kind of excited because I get to play with just colors.
01:06:35
Curt
If it doesn't come out well, I can just change the color, which is no pressure.
01:06:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:38
Curt
Um, and I'd like to get that done end of this week so I can get a build so I can kind of roughly call this, you know, June's sales.
01:06:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:46
Curt
Uh, yeah. that's that's all i got on the books really um and then getting screws up and running so that i can have something where can just throw on the machine and then go to the park or something so i can feel like i'm being productive when i'm not in the shop so yeah it's like the sixth week of me trying to get that up and rolling i've have tool holders just sitting looking at me being like you bought me stupid make it work so
01:06:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:58
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:07:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, might buy a tool holder tonight. A DC collet holder and see how it works. Or just use the ones I have and tap the tools in like it's really not the end of the world.
01:07:11
Curt
at
01:07:14
jamie peacock
I just like fancy shit.
01:07:14
Curt
I say this rate, I should just so just send you mine.
01:07:17
Curt
You can try it and then send it back, and I probably still won't have touched it.
01:07:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, we've got... Yeah. yeah
01:07:25
Curt
about you, man?
01:07:26
jamie peacock
I need to, ah yeah, I am busy pushing through all the Anchor Point stuff.
01:07:26
Curt
what do you What are you up to this week?
Anchor Points Project Delays
01:07:30
jamie peacock
So those will be, we've pushed back the estimated availability date to the middle of July because i've still got to wait for one or two things to come in from China, the slide valves and the pull studs.
01:07:37
Curt
Hmm.
01:07:44
jamie peacock
Because if I buy them locally, they are quite literally six times the price of what I can get them from. for from china and they are identical same box same everything they're bringing them in from china so yeah anyway um yeah so we're busy buttoning up anchor points uh going to be starting on some of the mold stuff tomorrow when the material arrives got to take anchor points to anodizing uh quoting on more tough no yeah busy week
01:07:51
Curt
Hmm.
01:07:53
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:08:14
Curt
Hmm.
01:08:15
jamie peacock
in a nutshell, and then get to deal with Titans of CNC's stupid course where they made round pots.
01:08:15
Curt
Exciting.
01:08:20
jamie peacock
So now I have to make a set of round soft jaws, which is annoying as fuck.
01:08:25
jamie peacock
I might be a dick and just ah dovetail the material for op 1 so we can hold it in one of my small vases, do the op 1s, and then right at the end make round jaws and do the op 2s on three different pots.
01:08:37
jamie peacock
Because it's yeah that that's the plan right now is we're just up one-ing everything and then we'll make custom soft jaws and just burn through all the or the stupid shaped parts at the end.
01:08:47
Curt
Fair.
01:08:47
jamie peacock
But that's going pretty well.
01:08:47
Curt
Yeah, fair.
01:08:48
jamie peacock
I leave Carl to crash my machine.
01:08:49
Curt
That's good.
01:08:49
jamie peacock
He so far hasn't.
01:08:50
Curt
That's good.
01:08:51
jamie peacock
Oh, he did. He plunged a drill in at, I think, one and a half meters a minute. So the machine stalled a little bit.
01:08:57
Curt
Ooh, okay.
01:08:59
jamie peacock
um It actually drilled the first hole and then he paused it. So then we fixed the feeds and speeds there. I think he had just left the default ones from Fusion, which are 5,000 RPM and 1,000 millimeters a minute, which is a little bit on the fast side.
01:09:12
Curt
It's cooking. Yeah.
01:09:14
jamie peacock
um
01:09:14
Curt
Oh,
01:09:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, so we just fixed that. Other than that, he's been cracking along with those.
01:09:21
Curt
um that's cool. That's cool.
01:09:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I'll see him to tomorrow night, I think. I was actually phoning because Danica wants to go to a quiz and a different quiz night tomorrow night.
Social Plans and Interruptions
01:09:31
Curt
Oh.
01:09:31
jamie peacock
So then we'll have to postpone it. Why am I being called on a group chat with Danica and her two friends?
01:09:35
Curt
fun stuff.
01:09:39
jamie peacock
This is why my phone is on silent. Ignore. I don't need to speak to those weirdos.
Podcast Conclusion and Future Content
01:09:45
jamie peacock
Anyway, thank you everybody for listening. We're now going to go to the after show and what are we going to talk shit about? Oh yes, my old boss. We're going to go talk shit about my old boss.
01:09:54
jamie peacock
um Thank you very much for listening. And yeah, we will see you next week with some hopefully more on-track machinist-related things and less waffling about whatever the hell we waffled about tonight.
01:10:07
Curt
Take care all.