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Ep.32: AMAZE AMAZE! You sleep, I watch
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Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as making screws, tumbling and nebula, and Project Hail Mary.
Links Discussed:
- The Blight: https://www.cnczone.com/forums/vertical-mill-lathe-project-log/56549-cnc.html
- My Next Masterpiece!!! I Built a Tool Post Milling Spindle Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9g4bvlIMpE
- Actionbox emco video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=gqLPubk5SeGSet-f&v=GGVa0gTO7Wc&feature=youtu.be
The Lone Machinist:
- Website: https://thelonemachinists.com/
- Bonus Content: https://thelonemachinists.com/#bonus-content
- Merch: https://www.jspeceng.com/online-store
- Patreon: https://patreon.com/TheLoneMachinists
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Transcript
Transitioning to Video Podcast
00:00:46
jamie peacock
Good morning, Kurtz. are you doing this fine day?
00:00:50
Curt
yeah Doing fantastic. How are you doing on this after evening noon-ish?
00:00:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, bright afternoon. um Yeah, it's not a video podcast yet, but that's ah the plan is from next episode to be video on YouTube, and then Spotify will still be just audio, and Apple Podcasts will still be audio.
00:00:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:11
jamie peacock
Zencaster is currently video, apparently. ah But yeah. We're going to be becoming fancy.
00:01:19
Curt
Ooh, people will be able to see our bright, shiny faces as we talk, yeah.
00:01:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly. You can see the dumb pointing that we like to do and explaining with hands.
00:01:30
jamie peacock
But yeah, so yeah you got a public holiday today, so we're recording a little bit earlier.
00:01:30
Curt
oh Yeah.
00:01:34
jamie peacock
but other than that, what's what's been cooking your side of the world?
00:01:34
Curt
Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, I appreciate it.
00:01:39
Curt
Oh, just a crap ton of production. I launched another or did another lottery drop on Friday and i'll probably actually end up doing one, probably not today, maybe tomorrow, i just to clean up the scraps from that order because there's always people that just ghost.
00:01:54
Curt
um So yeah, that was nice. Nice to sell the gear. So now I got a ship the gear and then ah rinse repeat. So yeah, it's been big week of getting that junk set up. actually not a big week because it was it was just like a small batch and i'm it's i don't know it's sometimes nicer just to do in smaller quantities and just i'm trying to i keep playing with numbers to see like if i like to do a batch like in two weeks or if i want to work for like four weeks or if i want to work like for one week or like just trying to feel it out and see where i'm don't know where it works best it's always changed it's forever changed yeah and it forever changes it's like constantly changing because i'm constantly getting things better so yeah it's fun i like it how about you would you
00:02:20
jamie peacock
yeah see where you happiest
00:02:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:29
jamie peacock
Okay. I had an intrusive thought today.
00:02:33
Curt
Ooh, what kind of intrusive?
00:02:35
jamie peacock
I want to build a washing machine.
00:02:37
Curt
You want to build a washing machine?
00:02:39
jamie peacock
That I can literally put my parts on a tray, have it dip into water or detergent and then rinse and young just move it through.
00:02:40
Curt
i
00:02:48
jamie peacock
And I know that I don't have to touch the parts. They are degreased.
00:02:53
Curt
i could get behind this like could get behind this project.
00:02:53
jamie peacock
But, uh,
00:02:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, the problem is it's a project that I don't really need to project as.
00:03:02
Curt
yeah and Yeah, I know. I've looked at other automated systems for that. Like, once again, that's not the low-hanging fruit, but it is fun to look into.
00:03:09
jamie peacock
No.
00:03:09
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:03:10
jamie peacock
It's very fun to look into, though. So I am ah need to order some titanium pinning so that I can make titanium racks for the anchor points. because we got an order this morning for a blue one, and I had to spin up the Anno setup for one anchor point, which is fine.
00:03:27
jamie peacock
It went well. My new timer arrived. It's made of magic and is loud as all fuck. Like, machines running headphones on, and you can still hear the thing. can probably hear it in my bedroom. um
00:03:37
Curt
Nice.
00:03:37
jamie peacock
So got that bolted to the wall, and yeah, that's awesome. Like, it takes a lot of the the mental load off of running Anodars, because I can see it, and it's loud as hell. Yeah.
00:03:49
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, washing parts. I don't want
Workshop Challenges and Improvements
00:03:52
jamie peacock
water stains on my parts.
00:03:54
Curt
Yeah, and it's like the most boring thing to do.
00:03:54
jamie peacock
Because...
00:03:57
Curt
And then, yeah, if you make one little mess up, you're like, well, now I got to redo it all because...
00:03:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:04:01
jamie peacock
It would also be nice to be able to do it after tumbling, that I can put it into ah into a degreaser and get the parts almost etched clean. Because the degreaser I have will literally strip anodizing off.
00:04:13
Curt
Oh, nice. Nice.
00:04:14
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:17
Curt
Yeah. I know. It's, it's weird. I find that like sometimes a water spot stain, like, especially on a tumble, like I did a bunch of tumble titanium. I find that a water spot stain, like if you don't have perfectly clear rinse water and you get a, you know, a little mineral spot, almost nothing will take it back off.
00:04:26
jamie peacock
yeah yeah
00:04:30
Curt
Like distilled water will sometimes take it off, but it's weird how well it can bond to a part or like sometimes it's easier just to retumble the part. It's like, how do you stain so bad?
00:04:38
jamie peacock
so what So what I've been doing with the anchor points is when they come out of 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, when the part comes off the machine, it gets blown off, put on a on the shelf. I load the next one, hit cycle start, and then I take that part to the tap, rinse it off, blow it off, and then wipe it with paper towel so there's there's no droplets anywhere critical on it.
00:05:01
jamie peacock
Otherwise, water stains. And yeah, it really, for sure especially when you're not going to tumble the parts and you want to go straight into anodize.
00:05:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:08
jamie peacock
So then every little thing makes a difference.
00:05:08
Curt
Yeah,
00:05:11
jamie peacock
But yeah, pretty pretty happy with the anode at the moment.
00:05:12
Curt
I know.
00:05:15
Curt
i I store, like, after my parts to come out of Tumblr, I just keep them in water. Like, I store my parts underwater until I absolutely have to take them out of water. It's annoying, because parts are always wet, but at least you don't get water spots, because, like, you just keep them underwater at all times, and they don't, yeah.
00:05:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:05:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, I got some water pot spots on the pots today that I tumbled and then washed and then kind of dried and then was lasering. And it stains in like five minutes.
00:05:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:38
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:38
jamie peacock
It's really frustrating. But anyway, those are going to a knife workshop, so they're going to get thrown around and beaten, so it doesn't really matter.
00:05:45
Curt
cool but
00:05:45
jamie peacock
They looked really nice when they were shiny, but yeah, by the time they leave my workshop, they're not going be shiny anymore. So I figured I'd just tumble them, give it a little bit of forgiveness.
00:05:53
Curt
yeah nice well i mean it's good that you got the tumblr or the uh sorry anodizing setup all all dialed in especially if you only if you can do it like if you can do onesie through it and it's not like doesn't make you want to cry
00:06:00
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, it really isn't it isn't too bad. Just the racking, I need to make permanent racking now. So I was actually thinking, all the threaded holes should always be clocked the same because they're thread milled.
00:06:18
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, probably, yeah.
00:06:19
jamie peacock
So I can literally just turn a thing, thread the end, turn it in once it's in all the way, bend it, and the hooks will always face the same direction.
00:06:29
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah the side benefit of thread milling.
00:06:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, of thread milling, yeah. Even on my machine with rigid tapping, it always lo's clocks to the same start position.
00:06:38
Curt
Hmm, okay.
00:06:39
jamie peacock
so But yeah, those are thread milled. And I was like, hmm, that's not an entirely stupid plan. So I'll be picking up some six millimeter pinning right now. The Emco is busy making long pieces short.
00:06:50
Curt
Oh, nice. Mm-hmm.
00:06:51
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, Danica was running it today. One minute, 30 cycles. It's the best. Blanking all five parts at a time. Load bar, hit go, and it blanks off five parts. Load bar, hit go, blanks off another five. And then I'm running the but LK.
00:07:04
jamie peacock
So the EMCO outruns the LK like something stupid. But I was busy. So you know. And then we ran out of electricity because there was awning that was done and it tripped the plug and the electricity meters plugged in on that plug.
00:07:20
jamie peacock
So then it ran out of power and wasn't beeping. Like in the back of my mind, I'm like, we should be running out today, but it hasn't beat. And it wasn't beeping when I got coffee. So must be fine.
00:07:31
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, power went off.
00:07:33
Curt
that's so weird so like if you run out of let's say credits that you've bought for power it just like shuts you off yeah
00:07:36
jamie peacock
Yeah. Fucking disconnect at the gate. There's a PLC box at the gate in the where the power comes into the property. And then I've got a little magical box that talks to it over the um ah the power lines.
00:07:48
jamie peacock
And you literally go into a banking app, bar units, type in the magical code, and then it loads units.
00:07:48
Curt
yeah
00:07:54
jamie peacock
Sometimes.
00:07:54
jamie peacock
so Sometimes it doesn't. And then Jamie gets frustrated when he can't load his money into the fucking devil box and bar passes it and reports a fault. And then when they're coming to fix the fault, I unbarpass it because fuck them. I'm not sitting without power for four days.
00:07:54
Curt
Wow.
00:08:07
Curt
Wow.
00:08:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, so ah if I really wanted to be a criminal, I could go and bypass it in a way that they they wouldn't even know. I'd change the load resistor. But we don't need to do that.
00:08:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:20
jamie peacock
I'd rather just pay for it and not have to worry about it. Because if you do get caught, there's fines and bullshit involved.
00:08:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:25
jamie peacock
So I'd rather just not have that bullshit in my life.
00:08:28
Curt
Yeah, no, fair. Yeah.
00:08:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, just pay for the power you're using. But yeah, we're going to burn through power for the next the next three days Because I'm going to have Bertha, Emco, and the LK running flat out on one job.
00:08:42
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:08:42
jamie peacock
We're going to make 1,000 Torx bits.
00:08:43
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:08:44
jamie peacock
So they're going to be running flat out.
00:08:46
Curt
Um...
00:08:46
jamie peacock
And Bertha runs.
00:08:47
Curt
Um...
00:08:49
jamie peacock
When we're doing that like 14-hour days, load a 750-mil bar, hit go and come back in an hour and load another one. And it just spins at 2,000 RPM for that whole hour. I feed it while it's spinning.
00:09:01
jamie peacock
Because spinning up and down takes time. So just feed it while it's doing 2000 RPM. And yeah, but that's literally going to be the machine's job for like three or four days.
00:09:12
Curt
wow well earning its keep so
00:09:13
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:15
jamie peacock
Well, 100%. It will earn its entire cost in this month.
00:09:20
Curt
yeah I say like if you're if you're spending more money on power than you're making you have big problems yeah
00:09:22
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:25
jamie peacock
Oh, no, definitely not. i actually had a look at the invoice today for this job and it's gone up significantly, but we are also having to pay for heat treat now. So we now gone from initially they supplied material. We did the machining. We gave it back and they it heat treated and delivered.
00:09:39
jamie peacock
Then it was, can we supply material? So now we sp supply material, we make parts, but we only make enough to full order. and now they And then they do heat treats and deliver. Now they want us to do the full stack.
00:09:50
jamie peacock
I'm like, sweet. Whatever material I have gets processed because why not? I can put it on my shelf as stock. And when they want parts, I can say, yes, 200. The rest will be two weeks time.
00:10:01
jamie peacock
And we can carry a bit of stock because i always overproduce. I never ever just produce the thousand I need. It's always a thousand and twenty or thousand and fifty that go to heat treats because they have a habit of losing things.
00:10:16
jamie peacock
No, not even kidding.
00:10:16
Curt
yeah
00:10:17
jamie peacock
I get free pots back in the heat tree. It's the best. Some random socket gripper thingies.
00:10:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:22
jamie peacock
are Cool. Where are pots? Because the last batch they managed to lose, I think, 30 pots out of a thousand.
00:10:29
Curt
Yeah, I don't i don't
Machining and Production Strategies
00:10:30
Curt
understand how that happens. I used to work with a company that didn't like castings, and we sent them for powder coat. And same thing, like we would we would drill the racking holes.
00:10:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:10:36
Curt
like We would get everything ready for them. We even told them, were like when you're done racking them, just just cut them off the racks. Drop them in boxes. We'll take the racking wire off.
00:10:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:10:43
Curt
like Don't worry about it. As simple as humanly possible for them. And same thing, it'd be like, oh, we're missing six parts. like how did you And they were big. like They were the size of half a loaf of bread.
00:10:51
jamie peacock
yeah
00:10:52
Curt
like How did you lose six of those? like Do you roll them into the oven or roll them out? And then what? Where do they go from there?
00:10:57
jamie peacock
yeah yeah it's like i've actually got i've got 40 kilogram scale now so i'm gonna put these torx bits in buckets and i'm gonna go there and i'm gonna plug my scale in weigh them so this is the weight of the buckets sign here please when i pick up it best weigh more because they are adding carbon to it but yeah it best be somewhat similar or there's going to be problems
00:10:58
Curt
Yeah. Strange.
00:11:05
Curt
Hmm.
00:11:12
Curt
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:18
jamie peacock
Because now I'm on the hook for them losing parts.
00:11:18
Curt
You're going to get a box with just blocks of metal.
00:11:22
jamie peacock
Well, I find...
00:11:22
Curt
Yeah, yeah,
00:11:23
jamie peacock
Have you ever seen the teeth in a pop rivet gun? Or the little thingy in a pop rivet gun?
00:11:27
Curt
yeah. Yeah.
00:11:27
jamie peacock
Those little serrated doodads?
00:11:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:29
jamie peacock
Yeah. Big ones. Like an inch and a half long and like probably made out of inch diameter. um Those always come back in the heat treat.
00:11:39
Curt
Nice.
00:11:39
jamie peacock
Yeah. I've got like 20 of them kicking around the workshop that were just mixed in with the parts. So I don't know. Freaking weirdos. But yeah, that that's heat treaters for you. They're like anodizers, but slightly less useless.
00:11:49
Curt
Yep. was going to say all those heat treaters, anodizers, powder coaters.
00:11:54
jamie peacock
Powder coaters.
00:11:55
Curt
Low expense. Yeah. low expense
00:11:56
jamie peacock
and don't know if we've ever discussed um the powder coating on my Emco.
00:12:02
Curt
I don't think so.
00:12:03
jamie peacock
They lost a part.
00:12:03
Curt
and don't think so.
00:12:04
jamie peacock
They literally lost one of eight pieces when I sent it for powder coating and then den denied ever having it.
00:12:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:12
jamie peacock
I'm like, dude, the paperwork was here. ah made tags and cable tied tags to everything so because I wanted different colors that they could correlate color to number.
00:12:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:22
Curt
Right.
00:12:22
jamie peacock
I'm 100% sure I dropped off eight pieces and you're giving me back seven and fucking trying to gaslight me into there only ever being seven. Anyway, i got a stainless steel door jam made. It was a bit annoying because was just going to not have to remake the door. I mean, it took, it added an extra two weeks while I waited for the door jam to be manufactured.
00:12:41
jamie peacock
um out of three more stainless.
00:12:43
Curt
Right.
00:12:43
jamie peacock
Like, I wanted to put the machine together and start running. i had to wait to x for like two weeks. It was a little frustrating. But yeah, stuff happens, I guess.
00:12:50
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:12:54
jamie peacock
But yeah, so what I see you've got a lot of things. Mostly, you want to watch me sleep, which is great.
00:13:00
Curt
yeah
00:13:01
jamie peacock
For anybody who has listened to Project Hail Mary, you'll get that. um My favorite line in that entire book was, Fist me. I nearly died laughing. Dude, I'm in the works of Potter and Ruff.
00:13:11
Curt
yeah
00:13:13
jamie peacock
Fist me. I'm like, what? Oh, yeah. It was great. Now, that e book, I'm interested to see how they do the adaptation to the movie.
00:13:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:20
Curt
Me too. Me too.
00:13:21
jamie peacock
It looks, so like from what I've seen, it looks like the the main chickie.
00:13:21
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:28
jamie peacock
It looks like they've softened her up a bit for the movie.
00:13:32
Curt
Oh yeah. I don't. Yeah. Cause she's she's, she's pretty hard in the book.
00:13:33
jamie peacock
Because she was quite, yeah, she was pretty hard and pretty brash in the book.
00:13:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:37
jamie peacock
So yeah, kind of interested to see. But yeah, if anyone else has any book recommendations, please send them my way because I'm now plowing through audiobooks at a silly rate.
00:13:39
Curt
Yeah. I'm curious. Yeah.
00:13:46
Curt
Well, a Hail Mary is an easy one to just to rip through. Like, it's it's good, and it catches you, and it's like, it's constant.
00:13:49
jamie peacock
Yeah. Putting it down was hard. Yeah.
00:13:52
Curt
Yeah, it's there's no lulls.
00:13:53
jamie peacock
I mean, i was I was prepping for robot tournaments on the weekend on Saturday morning, and I've got my headphones on, and I'm listening to Project Hail Mary while I'm getting stuff together.
00:13:54
Curt
It's just, like, entertaining the whole way.
00:14:03
jamie peacock
Because i at that point, I was like three or four hours away from the end of the book, and it was really good.
00:14:07
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:09
jamie peacock
And then there was that last little incident that really, like right towards the end, i'm like, okay, thought the story was over, but yeah, it was great.
00:14:09
Curt
Amaze. Amaze.
00:14:13
Curt
Oh, I know. The whole book is fantastic. Yep. I know. Yeah. It's like, yeah.
00:14:20
jamie peacock
and yeah Anyway, back to machining things. um Yeah. Ooh, talk about your... Ooh. Okay, there's so many fun things on your list there, Kurt.
00:14:32
jamie peacock
Are you going to be doing a Danny Rudolph with your blasting?
00:14:35
Curt
You know what? I'm seriously thinking about it because for the ah the black isogrips I do, I blast them because it's the only way to get that black anodizing to stick.
00:14:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:45
Curt
ah So I have to blast all the pockets. And there you can't tumble it aggressively enough to get the texture. and that It has to be blasted. So like, and it is so tedious and people love it.
00:14:55
Curt
So like, I'm going to have to do a ton more. And I'm like, I do not want to be spending like eight hours standing in front of a blasting cabinet, just blasting every one of these stupid things.
00:15:02
jamie peacock
new
00:15:05
Curt
So I'm thinking of ways to automate it. And yeah, the Danny Rudolph ways.
00:15:09
jamie peacock
AR4. I'm sure you've heard of the AR4.
00:15:10
Curt
Sorry, what? Well,
00:15:11
jamie peacock
The AR4 robot. Yeah.
00:15:13
Curt
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, like guy don't push me that. um Honestly, what would probably be best is just like like a motor, like a barbecue skewer kind of dealio.
00:15:20
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:22
Curt
um And then just something I could just like screw a pen body onto it, slide it in, and then even just have it, you know, slowly time, pull its way out as a gun is fixed in there and it just blasts that way.
00:15:33
Curt
That'd probably the best way and it wouldn't be all that difficult.
00:15:34
jamie peacock
3-axis CNC sandblaster. Come on. 3-axis
00:15:38
Curt
yeah Yeah, exactly. A five axis sandblasting gun. Yeah, that'd be better.
00:15:41
jamie peacock
just feed it along and spin it. Like, that wouldn't be that difficult to build.
00:15:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:45
jamie peacock
a doesn't, well, it's in a shitty environment, but doesn't have to be super well-engineered either.
00:15:51
Curt
Yeah, well, you could put all the smarts on the outside and just have a long skewer coming in, have all the dumb stuff on the insides.
00:15:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:55
Curt
I don't know. I'm not going to think about it quite yet.
00:15:57
jamie peacock
Fun. Fun.
00:15:59
Curt
um Because the problem is, like I'm like, well, could go with a more aggressive media, which would be faster, but then the outside is polished. So if you blast the pockets aggressively, then you have to polish the outside more.
00:16:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:16:09
Curt
So it's kind of like, kind of trying to balance things you can't really mask it because it's a billion pockets don't just thinking about it i'm just thinking it's going to be the one thing that's going to be you know having me contemplating putting a pistol in my mouth so it's just like let's find an easier way to do this if i have to do same thing if i have to do 10x this do i want to do this like not a chance so yeah so it's in my mind it's not not something i'm gonna jump on right now but i'm thinking about it
00:16:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, you wouldn't want to mask that.
00:16:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, that's...
00:16:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:16:32
jamie peacock
Definitely not. um Okay.
00:16:40
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:16:40
Curt
or
Community Engagement and Technical Insights
00:16:41
Curt
just Or just buy an arm. Go the Danny Rudolph way, buy an arm, cut a hole, and just let the robot do all the fun stuff.
00:16:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, let it shove it through there.
00:16:46
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:16:48
jamie peacock
um
00:16:51
jamie peacock
ah Okay, fair enough. Sorry, I'm busy yeah trying to figure out we've got a new Patreon today.
00:16:57
Curt
Ooh.
00:16:57
jamie peacock
So I'm just finding out how they want to be shouted out.
00:17:01
Curt
Mm. Okay, now going to look through your list.
00:17:02
jamie peacock
That's a surprise patron.
00:17:04
Curt
Ooh, surprise picture.
00:17:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, surprise patron. Find something exciting in my list.
00:17:10
Curt
i I was ah looking at your disgusting Tufnel chips from machining. It just looked like ground coffee. It looked heinous.
00:17:19
jamie peacock
It looked like poo.
00:17:21
Curt
It looked like poo. How did that go?
00:17:23
jamie peacock
smell or doesn't smell like poo. It smells like tufnel. um No, went well. I made one minor error on the one pot. um Because the pots on this one are not square, there's an undercut.
00:17:37
jamie peacock
I did it in Op 1. When I put it into Op 2, Fusion grabbed the chain of the bottom section, not including the undercut. So the one piece is a little smaller than it's supposed to. So the guy messaged me today, is this a design issue or a machining issue?
00:17:53
jamie peacock
So I had a look and i'm like, well, they there's the fucking problem. So I'm like, listen, get a piece of material. I'll remachine it. I'll pay for the material. He's like, no, don't worry. We'll make plans to just make sure for the next batch it's not an issue. like... shri no problem so i'm lucky on that one um no they pretty they put they've they are ecstatic with the quality of work they're getting out me so like one small little cock up like that and it's a simple fucking mistake to make because my i'm get shouted at by justin gray for this my model tool is not correct to what physically exists um
00:18:07
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:18:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:28
jamie peacock
My model tool is a, it's got a 15 length of cuts and sticks up to about 20, to hold about 20 mils.
00:18:29
Curt
Blasphemy. Right.
00:18:35
jamie peacock
Whereas what I'm using is a 30 millimeter length of cuts sticking out 36 millimeters. And it means that my simulation isn't because I'm doing a 20 mil step down. It doesn't cut the section.
00:18:45
Curt
Right.
00:18:46
jamie peacock
So it's not easy to see in the simulation. So I'm probably going to just update my tool library for that specific job so that it simulates correctly.
00:18:49
Curt
right
00:18:55
jamie peacock
Because I would have caught it if it wasn't leaving the stupid step. would been like, ah, there's an issue.
00:18:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:00
jamie peacock
But because it's leaving the step, it didn't draw my attention to it straight away. So model your tools, people. Don't be lazy like me.
00:19:09
Curt
Yeah, it is the way to go.
00:19:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, it definitely is. But yeah, anyway, we live and we learn. It's something I'll will keep an eye on for the next one. I've got another two tough null parts coming in. To finish this batch off, they'll come together. And then I've got the second batch they wanted an updated price on. So I had a chat to them about...
00:19:31
jamie peacock
Required finishes, because this thing's getting bonded in somewhere. If it doesn't need to be smooth, why spend 20 minutes making it smooth when I can spend four minutes plunge roughing it, and that's good enough.
00:19:42
jamie peacock
So I had to chat to him about potentially just offsetting all the surfaces in, so stock to leave in the negative, and that stock to leave will equal my cusp part.
00:19:43
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:50
jamie peacock
So the... Out is correct.
00:19:53
Curt
Right.
00:19:54
jamie peacock
The inner is lower. putting glue. It doesn't matter. um
00:19:57
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:19:57
jamie peacock
Because they were like, hey can we do a bit better on price on these in production? i like, no, definitely. I need to know where is critical and where isn't. I'm spending an hour and a half contouring these parts. If they don't need to be contoured, tell me and tell me now, and I'll just not contour them.
00:20:10
jamie peacock
I'll rough them to size if that's good enough.
00:20:11
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:20:12
jamie peacock
Like that cuts a shit load of cycle time. So yeah, busy going through optimizing everything with them.
00:20:16
Curt
Yeah, yeah, totally.
00:20:20
jamie peacock
And then that'll go into production, which I don't know what production quantities look like, but I can tell you I'm not super fucking and excited for it.
00:20:27
Curt
e Yeah.
00:20:28
jamie peacock
It's lots of money, but not super excited.
00:20:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:30
jamie peacock
If I can knock out one of these things a day, I'm smiling. lock Because each each ring is two two plates.
00:20:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:39
jamie peacock
And in theory, if i optimize my processing a little bit more, I can do that in a day, no problem.
00:20:45
Curt
Okay.
00:20:46
jamie peacock
If I'm not spending a whole day just surfacing shit that doesn't need to be surfaced.
00:20:51
Curt
Yeah. Well, maybe they'll come at you with production quantities that are at new machine quantities, because how would that would work then, too.
00:20:59
jamie peacock
I already planned it out. would buy a TC510 for my production work and then the 710 would become the tough and old job work.
00:21:07
Curt
Okay, yeah.
00:21:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, I ran into travel limits on my machine because the part was 700 millimeters and I have 710 travel.
00:21:16
Curt
Yeah, that's cutting it close for tools tool.
00:21:18
jamie peacock
And the molds from the week before were 400 on a 420 travel, which also posed some minor issues.
00:21:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:28
jamie peacock
that yeah yeah As I say, you'll always get work bigger than the machine you have. I've got some 1-meter shafts that I need to, some some linear shafts, 30-mil linear shafts, that I need to put M8 threaded holes into.
00:21:34
Curt
Oh,
00:21:43
Curt
OK.
00:21:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, it should be fun. Come in with an end mill I don't like.
00:21:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:47
jamie peacock
Hard mill through the hard layer. And then it's relatively easy to drill and tap.
00:21:52
Curt
Hmm. I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:53
Curt
If it's not not through, yeah ah yeah, that's not so bad then.
00:21:54
jamie peacock
It's just case hardwind.
00:21:57
Curt
Yeah. Nuke a tool to bite through it. and Yeah.
00:22:01
jamie peacock
Yeah, nuke a bunch of old tools. I've got a bunch of old ones kicking around. And I'll make sure that I make that size like 8.5 mills. So even if the tool wears out, it's still bigger. And then come in with a 6.8 drill. And I might...
00:22:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, I don't know I'll see. I might even just drop in with like, I've got some carbide drills, some 6.3s and just drop in with the 6.3 and then open it up with a four millimeter end mill and then thread mill it.
00:22:25
Curt
Ooh, yeah.
00:22:25
jamie peacock
Because i've got an m eight three I've got a couple of MA thread mills on hand.
00:22:30
jamie peacock
Sorry, I'm just trying message someone. Okay, there we go. Back to the podcast. ah So what have you been looking? Well, we're going to leave that one towards the end. Because that's freaking hilarious. I don't know Maybe we should actually keep that for the after show.
00:22:44
jamie peacock
But yeah, we'll see. um
00:22:46
Curt
It's PG-ish. Yeah.
00:22:48
jamie peacock
PG-ish. Nice. That's the way like to hear it. um So yeah, what have you been looking at on Swiss slates? Because apparently too much.
00:22:55
Curt
Okay, so I blame Norman for this because
00:22:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:59
Curt
ah
00:22:59
jamie peacock
Yes, I know the link you sent me.
00:23:01
Curt
Yeah, because he sent me a little link of a guy that DIYed, looks to be a good Swiss lathe. He's building something. So I'm not going to build a swis las Swiss lathe, people. Calm down. um But it is a it's so cool.
00:23:12
jamie peacock
Come to the dark side, Kurt.
00:23:15
Curt
like He did it well. And the more I look at it, and the problem is it's only like a minute and 20 videos, and there's like five or six of them. There's like no documentation. I looked everywhere for him.
00:23:22
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:23:23
Curt
um But you can kind of glean a lot from just... ah just the way he's building it You're like, oh, okay, that makes sense. I get that. I get that. I get that. So I started going down the rabbit hole of just looking at Swiss lathes because there's just, once again, there's certain things that would just be awesome to build this on a Swiss lath. So I've looked at a bunch of different manufacturers, used machines,
00:23:43
Curt
um looked at the worst part is i looked up uh linux cnc retrofits of swiss machines uh and it's possible people are doing it and i was like oh no and i'm like well it is not that difficult like it's a motor like it's two motors it's a bunch of servos the only problem is the control is just wild and i didn't know if linux cnc would support it and it does it just gets kind of complicated yeah linux
00:23:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:05
jamie peacock
LinuxCNC doesn't know what it is. It can do non-axis simultaneous, no problem.
00:24:11
Curt
I just didn't know how well it handled like, ah like weight code and synchronized code.
00:24:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:15
Curt
Cause Swiss is almost running. It's like, it's almost always running two branches of G code.
00:24:19
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:24:19
Curt
um And I didn't know Linux handled that well, but apparently people have got it to work decently well. So it's like, mean me me me interesting.
00:24:26
jamie peacock
I have a stupid solution for you.
00:24:26
Curt
And the one, what's your stupid solution?
00:24:29
jamie peacock
Two controllers. Just two controllers with some relays going back and forth.
00:24:31
Curt
I mean, it's not, it's not horrible. It's not a horrible idea. It's not a horrible idea.
00:24:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:37
Curt
It's honestly a way I might, I might think about it if I ended going that way.
00:24:39
jamie peacock
It would be a shitload easier to implement than going the deep dive of getting it running to a channel in one controller.
00:24:48
Curt
Yeah, well, and then, like, the one thing I was looking at, like, anybody I talk to that has a gang of Swiss lathes, like, when you buy a used one, they're like, make sure if you buy a used one, you can get more in your area, because they're, like... the likelihood of parts burnt, like I guess drives that like control the axes are fairly frequent to burn out and um they're not cheap.
00:25:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:06
Curt
And if you don't have a source for them, you can kind of like end up bricking yourself with an older machine um just because they're so hard to, and I guess everyone's after them. So like, well, so there still is this like super old Swiss, just like, don't a little ways away from me.
00:25:20
Curt
And I'm sure I can almost get it for the price of scrap metal now. Cause like it's been sitting there a year.
00:25:23
jamie peacock
That's the one with no parameters. Okay.
00:25:25
Curt
it's no parameters, but I'm like, in this case, I wouldn't care. Cause it's, it has dual spindles. It has everything. and It has all the mechanical systems I need.
00:25:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:32
Curt
I would just need to put servos into it and new like VFDs to drive, to drive the, uh, to drive the motors and then logic.
00:25:35
jamie peacock
That's not that hard.
00:25:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:41
Curt
So I probably won't do it.
00:25:42
jamie peacock
How much space you got on that side of your garage, Kurt?
00:25:43
Curt
Um, Lots, lots. That's the problem.
00:25:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:47
Curt
I could easily fit two Swiss's in there still. have half the garage on the other side still. So yeah, I don't know.
00:25:53
jamie peacock
yeah
00:25:54
Curt
I just like, I spent way too.
00:25:54
jamie peacock
it's It's a rabbit hole. it ah Did you listen to, a doubt you would have listened to it already this morning, the Lean Build podcast from today.
00:26:03
Curt
Yeah, I'm actually halfway through it. Yeah. Cause I thought you'd ask me.
00:26:04
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:26:05
Curt
So I started listening to it.
00:26:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:06
Curt
like Yeah.
00:26:06
jamie peacock
I meant to message you say, please listen to this for the podcast because it was really good about, Pearson was saying someone did a review between his smart vac unit and a Harbor Freight vacuum pump.
00:26:07
Curt
yeah
00:26:18
Curt
Totally. Mm-hmm.
00:26:18
jamie peacock
And he's like, yes, there's a time and a place for that. And then you realize that spending money is better than spending time because, yeah, there's there's that fine line when you've got more money than time or more time than money.
00:26:27
Curt
yeah
00:26:32
jamie peacock
And there's, yeah, bootstrap something, sure.
00:26:32
Curt
yeah
00:26:34
jamie peacock
But if bootstrapping something is going to hurt your sales, then do sales rather than buy the the solution.
00:26:42
Curt
Absolutely. And I mean, like, that's
00:26:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, the problem is I like ah like bootstrapping things.
00:26:46
Curt
well, and like if Swiss lathes weren't so GD expensive, like, ah like even a used Swiss lathes for what I want in the features I want with the tooling and the live act is I'm looking at about $80,000.
00:26:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:55
Curt
eighty thousand dollars So it's like, it's a lot of, sha and that's not new.
00:26:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:59
Curt
That's used. um and That's a lot of shekels.
00:27:00
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:02
Curt
So then I'm like, well, so i'm like, what if you, what if you bought a, you but then you're taking the gamble too, like buy used machine and retrofit it.
00:27:02
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, that's...
00:27:07
Curt
Like you don't have, it's not a hundred percent that is going to work and it's not a hundred percent that it's going to work well.
00:27:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:11
Curt
And it's like, okay, well maybe you'll only sink. Let's say I, you know, let's say I ended buying this for two grand and I put 5,000 bucks worth crap into it. And I put $20,000 worth of my time into it.
00:27:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:21
Curt
Am I anywhere ahead? I don't know if it works great. Like my hard engine works. I'm crazy far ahead.
00:27:26
jamie peacock
then sure. Yeah.
00:27:27
Curt
If it's ah still a kind of a paperweight that makes crappy parts, well, now I've just wasted like $30,000 on a project. Yeah. thousand dollars on ah project
00:27:34
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, that's the thing. That's the, the maths I was doing with the Emco as well with the 140, which I still haven't heard back from that car. Uh, but I'll phone the Emco guys again and be like, oh, you're a kid. Give me this guy's numbers.
00:27:45
jamie peacock
Um, because that shakes out, but it only shakes out if I will not work on that during work hours. Um,
00:27:54
jamie peacock
That's put it in my driveway and in the evening, go spend an hour or two on it every evening. That's the only way that that shakes out.
00:27:54
Curt
yeah
00:28:00
Curt
Right.
00:28:01
jamie peacock
I can't be working on that while my machines are standing because then I go out of business.
00:28:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:06
jamie peacock
Like, yeah.
00:28:08
jamie peacock
So it's...
00:28:08
Curt
Yeah, but but now by by that logic, like if you're going to spend those hours, you could also be spending those hours working.
00:28:13
Curt
So it's like it for being self-employed, it doesn't work out because you're like, well, my my free time could also be...
00:28:14
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:28:16
jamie peacock
No.
00:28:19
Curt
like It could be making money as well.
00:28:19
jamie peacock
That's the thing, Yeah.
00:28:20
Curt
So it's like...
00:28:22
jamie peacock
Like now tomorrow, I've got 20-minute cycles the entire day, which is cool.
00:28:22
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:26
jamie peacock
I can load up, hit go, and do something else, but not that much else. um But yeah, that that's at least better than what I've been doing, which has been two, three-minute cycles for since the weekend.
00:28:39
jamie peacock
Like it's, yeah, ooh, six minutes. What shall I do? at ja not not great for the the mind.
00:28:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:45
jamie peacock
But yeah, hopefully a material arriving tomorrow for some five-inch pallets. Some sample five inch and another mooring point because I'm putting two in my machine.
00:28:55
Curt
Cool. Ooh. have a big...
00:28:58
jamie peacock
I have decided I'm going to pull the riser out of my machine, buy another piece of aluminum that's half as wide, so I still have a solid riser on the side, but then I have two mooring points, aka and harbor, for the rest of the machine that I can...
00:29:14
jamie peacock
Basically drop my two vices on and off of. And then I've just got the riser for whatever other dumb shit I want to do. Just I want a solid riser as well.
00:29:22
Curt
Yeah, that makes sense. That's a decent idea.
00:29:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:25
Curt
You have the room for it, so go nuts.
00:29:25
jamie peacock
And I've got enough tables. So yeah. I'm not exactly short on table.
00:29:28
Curt
Yeah, totally.
00:29:30
jamie peacock
um
00:29:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:31
jamie peacock
Yeah. So that's that's arriving. And then I've got some more molds to do. Yay. bought four millimeter extension. So a 16 diameter to four millimeter end mill.
00:29:43
jamie peacock
150 millimeter extension bar so that I can reach in for this job. And then also bought a 18 millimeter two flute indexable for roughing this whole body out because I need to be able to drop down 80 millimeters.
00:30:00
jamie peacock
So it's going sound like shit for like a whole day. But yeah, got fancy tools and big blocks of aluminum.
00:30:04
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:07
jamie peacock
630 bar, 145 bar, 80 millimeters thick.
00:30:08
Curt
Ooh.
00:30:09
jamie peacock
one forty five bah
00:30:12
jamie peacock
eighty millimeters thick
00:30:12
Curt
Yeah, that's a chunk.
00:30:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:30:15
jamie peacock
a proper chunk of material so those going to get put in a vase and then i still need to make a mooring point palette with some sort of adjustable hot slidey vase clampy thing so that i can clamp the material to do the op one way i'm just going to face the back poke some holes in it so that i can bolt it to a fixture which will then sit on that clamping matron as well so that it doesn't vibrate and then i can go to town across the entire travel of my machine
00:30:18
Curt
Nice, nice.
00:30:43
Curt
nice nice
00:30:44
jamie peacock
but there's going to be a lot of material removal. It's going to be great.
00:30:48
jamie peacock
That should be fun.
00:30:49
Curt
That's fun.
00:30:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm also working on a cap design for the anchor point.
00:30:50
Curt
Cool.
00:30:53
jamie peacock
So when it's not in use, you can...
00:30:56
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:30:56
jamie peacock
It's a bit of a trick It's a tricky one because I want it to pull down and seal, but I also don't want it to push out and release every time you unclamp. So if you're running a mooring point with two of them, I don't want it coming up and down, a dus and then shavings can go in.
00:31:11
jamie peacock
So I have a plan.
00:31:11
Curt
Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:12
jamie peacock
It's a stupid plan, but I have a plan. Um... that I'm basically going to make a I think I'm going to make a custom pull stud for it. So it'll be an aluminum plate with a undercut for an O-ring.
00:31:25
jamie peacock
So it'll basically pull into the anchor point and then there'll be a hole in the top that you can drop an Allen key or flathead screwdriver or whatever.
00:31:26
Curt
Mm.
00:31:33
jamie peacock
and um And you loosen the, or you tighten in the but pull stud. And then it's low enough that when you unclamp, it actually lifts out. But when you clamp it the first time, you then, sorry, thinking, yeah so you clamp it and then you, yeah, then you loosen it and it'll basically, it'll hold it down, but it won't let it eject up.
00:31:59
Curt
Okay.
00:32:00
jamie peacock
So there's a bit of shenanigans I need to figure out there, but basically it'll stay in, it'll pull down when it clamps and when it unclamps, it won't actually eject it because currently the pull stud is long enough that it actually ejects it.
00:32:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I want to make it that it stays in and it only ejects when you want it to eject.
00:32:13
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:32:18
jamie peacock
So that's that's been cooking in the back of the mind for a while because I want something that'll keep the ones that aren't in use covered because right now I just put a blank palette on them.
00:32:19
Curt
Yeah, let's probably...
00:32:27
Curt
Right. Yeah, totally. Yeah.
00:32:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, but I would like something that looks prettier.
00:32:31
Curt
Or I wonder if you can make like just a big like silicone plug. Like a...
00:32:38
jamie peacock
So i printed a TPU one, but slowly you get coolant's ingress.
00:32:41
Curt
Hmm.
00:32:41
jamie peacock
So I want to have it that doesn't fill the whole thing with coolant's. So yeah, probably just an aluminum disc with some O-ring grooves and things on it to make it look cool.
00:32:45
Curt
Hmm, okay.
00:32:51
jamie peacock
um
00:32:51
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:52
jamie peacock
That'll drop in, doesn't matter the orientation, drops it and then it's just a custom, funny, Jamie special pull stud that I need to make to have it, be able to retain it and not and not eject it, which I think I can do.
00:32:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:05
jamie peacock
I have a plan. Yeah, so you basically put it in with the thing all the way down, clamp it, and then you would back it out until it holds it in place.
00:33:07
Curt
Yeah, it would be piece luck, yeah.
00:33:11
Curt
Right.
00:33:15
jamie peacock
And then when you want to eject it, you then screw it down again. And then the piston will actually knock the thing out.
00:33:19
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:33:22
Curt
As I when it pulls it down, is there a little bit of like, is there something that's kind of holding it?
00:33:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:33:26
Curt
Like, besides the pull starts holding it down?
00:33:27
jamie peacock
ah Yeah.
00:33:28
Curt
Like, it's it's kind of...
00:33:29
jamie peacock
uh there'll be an o-ring in the bore of the anchor point so where the pull stud goes that'll keep it retained so that that friction should keep it retained i hope because that bore is pretty accurate like it's held to a decent tolerance when we manufacture it's actually how measure the back bore because it's easy to measure the front and the back and it's one tool so we make the assumption that if the front is right the back is right
00:33:35
Curt
Oh, okay, i gotcha.
00:33:38
Curt
I gotcha. Okay. That makes sense.
00:33:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:49
Curt
Right.
00:33:52
Curt
Right.
00:33:56
Curt
Or I guess you can make a plate with just some chonky magnets, but people kind of hate putting magnets in machines.
00:34:00
jamie peacock
Magnets are dumb.
00:34:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:01
jamie peacock
Yeah, I don't like magnets either.
00:34:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:03
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, that's on the...
00:34:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:05
jamie peacock
I'm busy with the bunch. Trying to expand the product line little bit. So making super glue fixtures, 5-inch pallets. So think I've got 5-inch pallets arriving tomorrow, hopefully. The blanks.
00:34:16
jamie peacock
And then I just ordered 10 blanks for the 4-inch diameter bar, 2-inch thick. So nice chunky ones for when you want to hold something, you want mill a muer pocket. They were work really, really well.
00:34:27
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:34:28
jamie peacock
I've got a bunch of them. so I'm going to blank out a bunch of those. And then also super glue on those. i was thinking of making some small vacuum ones, but small and vacuum don't really mix. knock when when your part gets small just use super glue um and then i'm going to modify some pull studs in the emco and i'm done blanking off a thousand parts to make uh thin pull studs that only require 19 millimeters of material so that i can make a vacuum a big vacuum chuck and not have them stick through
00:34:38
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:01
jamie peacock
So like a 25mm plate and then the pull studs, don't want them to stick out the top. So then I'll make some stubby pull studs where I'll just put them in the Emco and face off the back of the threads and put a chamfer on it.
00:35:01
Curt
Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:35:12
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:35:13
jamie peacock
ah ah
00:35:14
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:14
jamie peacock
You're not going to rip it out with the amount of force the anchor point has.
00:35:18
Curt
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, yeah.
00:35:18
jamie peacock
Oh, that's actually something to discuss between podcast and after show. I figured some things out.
00:35:24
Curt
ah Ooh.
00:35:25
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah. About some of the other pallet systems in the wild.
00:35:29
Curt
Ah, okay. Yeah, so we won't publicly slag.
00:35:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, I finally figured, yeah. No, we're definitely not going to because there's no need to do that. Everyone has a place in the markets. Yeah, the first anchor point, going to not North America, well, other than South Africa, ah to not North America is going out tomorrow.
00:35:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:47
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:35:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's going to the Netherlands.
00:35:48
Curt
Wow. Ooh, fun.
00:35:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, we had a bit of a... We're having a bit of an issue with the shipping. We overcharged for shipping. Yeah. So we had that fixed and then he bought two shirts and that broke it.
00:36:04
jamie peacock
So Danica fixed it again, sent some emails saying, hey, sorry, we overcharged you.
00:36:04
Curt
hu
00:36:08
jamie peacock
Do you want a refund? Do you want to store credits or do you want an additional two pallets? So he's getting an additional two pallets.
00:36:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:13
jamie peacock
And if those um five inch ones a arrive, he might just get five inch ones to test.
00:36:20
Curt
Nice.
00:36:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, might as well see if I can get him to do some testing.
00:36:21
Curt
Nice.
00:36:23
Curt
That's cool.
00:36:24
jamie peacock
So yeah, those are heading out. I keep getting inquiry from a guy in the US somewhere wanting to buy a cheap Pearson system effectively. um ah need to have a chat to him and just yeah be like, dude, what you're asking for is stupid.
00:36:33
Curt
Mm.
00:36:38
jamie peacock
And there's a reason we're doing it the way we're doing it. And just explain to me, no, you only want to with two pulls, two locating pins.
00:36:41
Curt
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:36:45
jamie peacock
I'm like, dude just put fucking pockets around the other two that it only uses two. At least then you can still use the front one as ah anchor points or the back one as anchor points, or you can use them together as a mirroring point.
00:36:58
jamie peacock
Like that's the whole point of the system being the modular base.
00:36:59
Curt
Mm, yeah.
00:37:01
jamie peacock
So anyway, I will type in my long ass email and then get ChatGPT to make it not sound condescending.
00:37:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:07
jamie peacock
And he's emailed me like four or five times asking about it I'm like, dude, it's been released.
00:37:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:12
jamie peacock
to Go look at the product. Like, yeah, they want they basically want a cheap version of the Pearson Pro Palette system.
00:37:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:20
Curt
Yeah, it's, yeah.
00:37:20
jamie peacock
And I'm like, that is not what this is.
00:37:25
Curt
Right, yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're...
00:37:26
jamie peacock
It's filling a different niche. Like, yeah.
00:37:28
Curt
Totally.
00:37:29
jamie peacock
So, and that's it. Everyone has their niche and does well in their niche. Hopefully. I don't do well yet. We'll find out. so
00:37:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:39
jamie peacock
I'm working on doing well.
00:37:41
Curt
Yeah, it's fair.
00:37:41
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway. ah yeah So I went up to the knife guy quickly. That's why I allegedly a few minutes late. um To drop off filing guards. Some smart illiterate ordered the wrong length screws.
00:37:55
jamie peacock
I ordered M3 by 10 instead of M3 by 8, so I had to hand i to tap the holes two mils deeper.
00:37:55
Curt
Oh no.
00:38:01
jamie peacock
They were drilled deeper, they just weren't tapped deeper, because my thread mill only reaches a certain amount.
00:38:03
Curt
Oh no.
00:38:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, I managed to break two taps off.
00:38:07
Curt
Oh no.
00:38:08
jamie peacock
Highly skilled.
00:38:09
Curt
Oh no.
00:38:10
jamie peacock
So yeah, I'm waiting for this place order, and then I've got to order another 200 screws, and I'm going to order the right length ones this time.
00:38:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:16
jamie peacock
But the torques on those screws is hot. Hot garbage would be a compliment.
00:38:22
jamie peacock
Like, it's, so it's a countersunk screw, but it's got a hell of a chamfer, and the Torx bit cams out for nothing.
00:38:22
Curt
How do mean?
00:38:30
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:31
jamie peacock
Like, it's super frustrating.
00:38:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:33
jamie peacock
um So I was chatting to about making screws and going to Torx Plus, because I can machine it a little bit easier.
00:38:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:38
jamie peacock
um
00:38:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:40
jamie peacock
But yeah, are making screws, i made I blanked off a bunch of screws over the weekend, and then I was getting questions on what insert I was using.
00:38:45
Curt
Mm.
00:38:46
jamie peacock
I'm like, no, it's a it's a sixteen e with a 0.5 full form. So it looks really, really stupid. It's this giant insert, this tiny little dingus on it.
00:38:59
jamie peacock
But it worked really well. Like i ended up turning the, it was just out of brass that I'd laying around, roughed it with decent step downs, then did four finish passes. And then the threading, threaded it with quite light step downs. And then again, four spring passes and they work perfectly.
00:39:16
Curt
Nice.
00:39:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've done M2.5 in steel before, which was great fun.
00:39:17
Curt
Nice.
00:39:21
Curt
Yeah, it's getting tiny. Yeah, it's getting tiny.
00:39:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, like I'm doing M3, I'm going to make a pallet up for those, I need to make some nuts to clamp them on the back. So need to design those up and then I'll probably just machine and slidding saw them off on the LK.
00:39:33
jamie peacock
And then that'll be my machining plan and then machine the the heads down to make them pretty because these people want pretty screws, but they don't want the torques clocked because that's expensive.
00:39:44
Curt
Yeah, yeah, well fair.
00:39:45
jamie peacock
Frustrating, but yeah.
00:39:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:48
jamie peacock
By the time I buy some holders and some end mills, at the same part price as buying a broaching unit.
00:39:49
Curt
Yeah, well...
00:39:54
jamie peacock
So probably just buy a broaching unit.
00:39:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:56
jamie peacock
It's a lot quicker. A hell of lot quicker.
00:39:58
Curt
Yeah. One of the, like i said, if they don't care about it being super, super pretty under like, yeah, then broach for sure.
00:39:59
jamie peacock
and then yeah yeah um And then I'll send you a picture of the stupid plan I have to clock my broach because I want it clocked anyway.
00:40:11
Curt
Nice. Nice. Okay. Yeah.
00:40:13
jamie peacock
You see my pallets, you're like, Jamie, why the fuck is there a screw in your pallets?
00:40:14
Curt
Loads of people message me and
00:40:17
jamie peacock
No, that's the clocking pin.
00:40:21
Curt
Loads of people messaged me after the fact and were like, you can get brooches at clock.
00:40:22
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:24
Curt
I'm like, hi. Okay. okay Okay. Good. That's good to know. I'm not going broach still, but it's good to know.
00:40:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, you're still not going broach.
00:40:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:30
jamie peacock
But good to know.
00:40:30
Curt
No, it's not worth it. Not worth the cash. I mean, you know, honestly, you approached me two weeks ago and have a brooch.
00:40:33
jamie peacock
No.
00:40:37
Curt
Like if the brooch salesman knocked on my door, I would have been like, yeah, I'll buy your brooch. But now that I figured it out, I won't. But still, as I would I would I would have caved.
00:40:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:46
Curt
That was, yeah.
00:40:48
jamie peacock
Well, I was looking at what size torques I have to do to get away with a 1mm N-mill.
00:40:49
Curt
Lots of tears.
00:40:55
jamie peacock
It's freaking huge. It's like a T40.
00:40:57
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah
00:40:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:59
Curt
Well, and like, you, like, to do the, because you can get away with not having the point go so far into, like, depending how small Torx is.
00:41:00
jamie peacock
It's giant.
00:41:11
Curt
I think it gets easier as the Torx gets smaller.
00:41:12
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:13
Curt
um Because even on mine, they're technically not perfect Torx, because they don't go into the corner, which is like a 0.2 millimeter ah diameter something crazy tiny.
00:41:24
Curt
But like,
00:41:24
jamie peacock
Okay, yeah.
00:41:25
Curt
None of the tools are formed for that. Like I've never found a single Allen key that has those razor sharp edges.
00:41:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:32
Curt
Cause it's just going to round off like as soon as you put it in your drawer.
00:41:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, instantly.
00:41:35
Curt
So yeah, I don't make them that way.
00:41:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:36
Curt
And they, they smash the Allen. It's not like they're milling each Allen key. Like they're probably just forging them or like squishing and whatever.
00:41:40
jamie peacock
No. Yeah, those are... Yeah, they're punched or something to that effect.
00:41:47
Curt
Yeah. And then they likely have a heavy processing after the fact to kind of, you know, kill the burrs. So anyways, just, but yeah.
00:41:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:55
jamie peacock
you can. I was thinking of just making them all flathead.
00:41:58
Curt
That's a great idea. People love that that fastener.
00:42:00
jamie peacock
So you can actually buy flathead ones ah that the guys use for putting knives together, and then they grind.
00:42:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:06
jamie peacock
So they'll lock the knife handles together with Loctite and screw together, and then grind it off.
00:42:09
Curt
Right.
00:42:11
jamie peacock
So it's just, it looks like a pin, but it's actually tightened together.
00:42:12
Curt
Oh. Yeah.
00:42:14
jamie peacock
I've made them for ah my neighbor. Then I make them long, and he just grabs it with a pair of vice grips and tightens it, because it's getting ground off anyway.
00:42:22
Curt
Sure.
00:42:23
jamie peacock
So like we will see, I think there's going to be some interesting hardware that we get into, into making out of some funnish materials.
00:42:23
Curt
That's...
00:42:30
Curt
i like I see the i see the the merit in that. like If you're making like a low-priced product or whatever, but like if someone gives me like a good product and it has like a fastener that can't be removed, I'm going to be like, I'm rage.
00:42:38
jamie peacock
Hmm.
00:42:44
jamie peacock
No, so this this is where your scales are glued on. Like, it's glued to the knife handle. And instead of just a pin through, they put this so it actually clamps as well, that if the glue ever fails, the handles don't fall off.
00:42:52
Curt
Okay.
00:42:54
Curt
Okay.
00:42:56
jamie peacock
They don't just s slide off a pin.
00:42:57
Curt
okay i Okay, you get a pass there, because you're never going to...
00:42:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:43:00
Curt
It's just like, yeah, it'd be like a pin.
00:43:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:43:01
Curt
Okay, I'll give you a pass.
00:43:02
jamie peacock
it's ah It's effectively, it's ah it looks like a pin, and it is a pin.
00:43:02
Curt
That's fine.
00:43:05
jamie peacock
It's just threaded in the middle so that when you're assembling, you can tighten it and lock it while the glue goes hard.
00:43:06
Curt
Okay.
00:43:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:11
jamie peacock
So yeah, no, no. it's Guys do all sorts of weird shit. Knife people are weird.
00:43:16
Curt
Well, makes sense with, like, epoxied handles.
00:43:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:43:18
Curt
like you never I thought it was like ah like a pivot screw for, like, a folder something that.
00:43:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. Oh, no, no, no
00:43:21
Curt
It'd be like, oh, I would...
00:43:21
jamie peacock
They do hidden pivots as well on folders, apparently. I'm like, that's just fucking insane what happens when it wears out.
00:43:26
Curt
Hmm.
00:43:29
jamie peacock
So yeah, anyway I was up there today having a chat to the guy and we'll make some fanciness.
00:43:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:35
jamie peacock
I'm just also not looking to spend a bunch of money on promises. So until I have an order, I ain't doing shit.
00:43:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:42
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's just what it is.
00:43:42
Curt
No fair.
00:43:45
jamie peacock
Our new patron has not come back to me, but then I can't say I'm surprised. He has a bit of a track record of not responding to people.
00:43:54
Curt
Ah, um I might know who this is.
00:43:56
jamie peacock
Ah, you do know who this is. um I spoke to his liaison.
00:44:01
jamie peacock
um Yeah, his handler. um I'm just going to shout out everything. Okay, anyway, let me shout out our Patreons. We've got a new Patreon today, um along with the rest of Patreons who make the...
00:44:02
Curt
oh yeah his handler.
00:44:14
jamie peacock
well, make the cameras on the podcast show us. ah Because as of next week, hopefully, if all goes to plan, ah we will be posting a video podcast on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts will still just be audio.
00:44:30
jamie peacock
But Zencaster and YouTube will have video of us looking pretty and doing the pointing things like this and explaining things. um
00:44:38
Curt
Do you have a new camera right now?
00:44:40
jamie peacock
No, not yet.
00:44:41
Curt
Okay, oh's just the extra lighting. I was like, because it looks so pretty.
00:44:42
jamie peacock
yeah Yeah, extra lighting.
00:44:44
Curt
Ooh.
00:44:44
jamie peacock
It should be should be ah by the end of the week. So that's getting, yeah, it'll get ordered tomorrow.
00:44:48
Curt
Okay, sorry. Carry on with the Patreon for me.
00:44:51
jamie peacock
But anyway, that's courtesy of the patrons. Thank you, patrons. um Speaking of the patrons, thank you especially to Jade from Benchmark20 and Luke luke from Fabtastic, along with our new Patreon, AJ from Audacity Micro, Subtract Manufacturing, and Taps and Patience, all in one go.
00:45:07
jamie peacock
He hasn't responded, so I don't know what to call out, so he's getting called out on all of them. But yeah, thank you for the follow. He's following us at one of the top tiers, so he's going to get shouted out every week.
00:45:16
Curt
I appreciate it. Thank you.
00:45:17
jamie peacock
Yeah. Also, if you're looking to have things manufactured, check out Subtract Manufacturing. They are yeah do manufacturing of things. They've got a network of shops, and yeah, send them your part. They'll quote you, and the price will probably be good.
00:45:33
jamie peacock
Pretty much a little bit cheaper than Xometry, as far as understand it.
00:45:34
Curt
I'm just going
00:45:37
jamie peacock
And all done domestically in the US.
00:45:37
Curt
i'm just go to
00:45:39
jamie peacock
Sorry, I keep cutting Kurt off. It's quite fun.
00:45:41
jamie peacock
Let's see I can keep cutting him off.
00:45:41
Curt
No, no, no, no, no.
00:45:41
Curt
no no Yeah, fair enough.
00:45:43
jamie peacock
Wait him to start speaking and I'm going speak again.
00:45:46
Curt
I'm going to design an entire Swiss lathe and then just send it to them piecemeal. It'll cost me like a thousand or a million dollars to make.
00:45:51
jamie peacock
Oh, nice.
00:45:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, an expensive machine.
00:45:55
Curt
yeah Yeah, exactly.
00:45:57
jamie peacock
But yeah, we had a, we had a, or they've got, so they've got a Patreon as well.
00:45:58
Curt
Here's a...
00:46:01
jamie peacock
and if you're on their Patreon, there's their Discord, which is awesome. um We had a hangout on there last week, Friday. So Friday night is the Jacob Jamie hangout. I think we had like six or seven people in there at one point while we were talking, talking cuck. And yeah, it's, it's a lot of fun. It's quite a good community going on there at the moment.
00:46:21
Curt
Nice.
00:46:21
jamie peacock
So, yeah, worth checking out their podcast.
00:46:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:24
jamie peacock
Check out Subtract. If you want to join their Patreon, you can get into their Discord. And, yeah, their Discord is very, very active. Yeah.
00:46:31
Curt
I like
00:46:32
jamie peacock
yeah
00:46:32
Curt
I like Discord because Discord is starting to feel like the new age forum to me. Like, i remember, like, kind of probably when me and you both jumped into the internet, like, forums were huge.
00:46:38
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:42
Curt
And I was i was a member of a few of them.
00:46:42
jamie peacock
So the only the only issue with the Discords is you can't search them like you can search a forum.
00:46:49
Curt
Yeah, that is a downside.
00:46:50
jamie peacock
So I was listening to to the WAN show and Luke from LTT was saying, Discord is a bit of a problem because all this knowledge is not actually getting stored.
00:46:51
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:01
jamie peacock
you like If you go on some of these Discords, you'll see guys will join the Discord and there's like four guys just answering the same question again and again and again.
00:47:01
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:47:06
jamie peacock
Every time someone joins, it's because they have a problem. They're asking the same question. Whereas if it was on a forum, it you would search and and it and would come up. So it is a bit of a, it's an interesting time to be alive.
00:47:18
jamie peacock
Let's put it that way.
00:47:19
Curt
Well, and it at least it's like at least it's it's documented and saved. Even if it's not searchable, like the data is there.
00:47:23
jamie peacock
yeah
00:47:25
Curt
like We can figure out the search later, but like like ah like an Instagram chat or something like that, where it's so like just doing two people, or like stuff like that, where it just goes into the ether and it's gone.
00:47:30
jamie peacock
oh yeah yeah yeah yet but yeah no like the the discord's discord's awesome like i'm on the kinetic precision one as well
00:47:35
Curt
Just like, well, at least Discord is it's there. You can find it. You just can't search it very well yet. Yeah.
00:47:48
jamie peacock
That's quite, that one's super busy. often pop into the um open voice chats or open video chats and we'll go hang out with the guys there because they all work by themselves. So you hop in and then have a chat while you're busy working by yourself.
00:48:02
jamie peacock
So not alone.
00:48:03
Curt
That's awesome.
00:48:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, so like Spencer Webb's in there a lot.
00:48:04
Curt
Yeah, that's so cool.
00:48:06
jamie peacock
ah Dale from Widgetworks is in there lot. There's someone else I can't remember now. But yeah, Dale's up the road from you. He's in Edmingson.
00:48:16
Curt
Really?
00:48:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:18
Curt
How do I not know this?
00:48:19
jamie peacock
Well, he doesn't do exactly small widgets. He does a freaking giant shit for oil and gas.
00:48:24
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:48:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:26
Curt
which Oh shit, yeah, he's super close.
00:48:28
jamie peacock
Yeah. Right up the road.
00:48:29
Curt
Wild.
00:48:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:31
Curt
Ah, trippy. I had no idea.
00:48:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I end up chatting to them every now and again. I'll hop in while I'm setting something up or in the workshop. That's why I bought the headphones with the Mark so that I can be a social butterfly.
00:48:42
Curt
Interesting. Okay, well, I'm gonna have Dale, yeah, Dale Bannister. Sorry if I butchered your name.
00:48:48
jamie peacock
So... um I was working in the workshop today and all of a sudden, darkness.
00:48:51
Curt
Boop. Follow. Yeah, go
00:48:56
Curt
ahead. Darkness.
00:48:58
jamie peacock
I think the ESP32 that runs my lights shat the bed.
00:49:03
Curt
Ah, yes, says yes, yes.
00:49:03
jamie peacock
i was like, oh, maybe the power supply shat the bed, put another power supply, same story. So now I've got to find ESP32 in my house somewhere and flash that program to it so that I can have lights again tomorrow.
00:49:15
Curt
The most nerdiest thing ever. Find an ESP32 in my house. Just like, yeah you know, like, i just need a rubber band or a paperclip or a microcontroller.
00:49:19
jamie peacock
I think there's like 20 in my robot box downstairs.
00:49:24
jamie peacock
Yeah. Dude, the number of, yeah, the number of electronics projects that have been started and not finished in this house are impressive. Like ESP32, right in front of me.
00:49:32
Curt
Oh, we don't talk about that. No. Yeah, we don't talk about those. Yeah, it's not.
00:49:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, we don't talk about those.
00:49:36
Curt
Yeah. Yes.
00:49:38
jamie peacock
Speaking of electronics projects that have been started and not finished, compressor controller.
00:49:42
Curt
yeah yes
00:49:43
jamie peacock
It is getting revitalized.
00:49:44
Curt
ah
00:49:45
jamie peacock
I want to make it in such a way that you don't have to plug it into a computer to configure it.
00:49:46
Curt
Okay.
00:49:52
Curt
Okay.
00:49:53
jamie peacock
So it's got a screen on it to tell you the pressure and the state.
00:49:56
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:56
jamie peacock
So i want to have it with two buttons, hold the buttons to set whatever.
00:49:57
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:49:59
jamie peacock
I just need to work that through and then convince ChatGPT to write me not entirely shit code ah to do that.
00:50:04
Curt
Hmm.
00:50:05
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, when it boots up, the only problem is i want to store the settings into EEPROM, which on an Arduino is not a good plan. um So, like, i don't want to hard code it.
00:50:17
jamie peacock
It needs to be user adjustable.
00:50:19
Curt
Right.
00:50:19
jamie peacock
So I might switch over to an ESP to do it. Also, then I can put the ESP on the back of the circuit board. So when it arrives, it doesn't look like ESP. It looks like a fancy thing.
00:50:29
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:50:29
jamie peacock
Because I might just spin up a bunch of them. Because I need to get my compressor under control a little bit. it runs way, way too much at this point.
00:50:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:39
jamie peacock
Like, everything is forever running.
00:50:39
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:50:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's getting more and more. So I need to buy a new compressor as well.
00:50:42
Curt
Hmm.
00:50:44
jamie peacock
But that's a problem for when this one shits the bed entirely.
00:50:44
Curt
Hmm.
00:50:48
Curt
Yeah, yeah, fair.
00:50:49
jamie peacock
Like, then I'll, I'll drive down the road for 30 minutes and buy one. It's not, not the end of the world. But yeah, so, your last two.
00:50:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:59
jamie peacock
Oh, wait. Why does tumbling and nebula work? What?
00:51:04
Curt
Oh, um...
00:51:04
jamie peacock
Tumbling in the... Oh, that doesn't make you cry. i got excited. I thought made cry.
00:51:07
Curt
Yeah... No, no. Like that nebula finish. I'm forever messing with it, but I think I finally have a method. Actually, with the talking from last week, the polishing that I was doing on titanium, um which basically just meant like I went with a bigger diameter buffing wheel, so my SFM is increased, and I've used proper polish for titanium now as opposed to like general purpose, which, weirdly enough, works way better.
00:51:15
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:51:29
Curt
Who would have thought?
00:51:29
jamie peacock
I would have never guessed that. Yeah, like that's unreasonable.
00:51:30
Curt
You never would have guessed that something yeah purpose built that would work better.
00:51:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:33
Curt
um ah But the interesting aspect of it is on the buttons, and not so much the pocket clips because I can't, like, they're harder to polish at a really fine finish, but the buttons are so small that they're very easy to polish to like, a stupid level.
00:51:46
Curt
um So now they're like, they're so, they're so shiny. They're so mirror-like. they're they They look wet. Like it looks like I dipped them in like, in like lacquer.
00:51:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:54
Curt
Like they kind of have a gloss. They look like they have depth to them, especially when that like nebula and tropic finishes put onto them. But the cool side effect is it's way more tolerant to like skin oil. Like if you rub it with your thumb, normally that really dull, it dulls the finish.
00:52:05
jamie peacock
Okay. Yeah.
00:52:07
Curt
Cause on titanium, you only get the color from the depth of the oxide layer. So yeah.
00:52:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:12
Curt
you're not it's a clear oxide layer and the way it bends the light is the way you see the color it's not technically color you can think about that whichever way you want yeah it's it the oxide is clear and that's how you get the color um
00:52:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's really cool the way it works. Yeah.
00:52:24
jamie peacock
yeah
00:52:26
Curt
But so if there's if there's surface undulation and you like rub skin oil on it, obviously the light's going to refract differently and it's going to look different. But the more polished it is, the more it's resistant to that.
00:52:33
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:52:35
Curt
So these are like way more resistant. They don't pop as much like just directly because they almost have that... What do they watchmakers call it? Like black polish? Like where it gets so shiny that...
00:52:43
jamie peacock
Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:52:46
Curt
Yeah, it's so shiny that you...
00:52:46
jamie peacock
Blue your blue or black polishing.
00:52:48
Curt
yeah, you see it, you see the color or if it's off angle, it's black because it's, it's like, it's reflecting so well and it's kind of getting into that territory.
00:52:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:56
Curt
um But I think people are going to dig it regardless.
00:52:56
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:52:58
Curt
But yeah, it was just kind of a neat, a neat kind of side effect that I didn't really understand what was happening.
00:53:02
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:53:03
Curt
I was like, oh, I know what's going on here. So yeah.
00:53:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's kind of cool.
00:53:06
Curt
So, and it's easy, it's, it's easier to put the finish on. So it was kind of like win, win, win.
00:53:10
jamie peacock
Well, yeah, bonus.
00:53:10
Curt
So bonus. Yeah.
00:53:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's always good.
00:53:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:15
jamie peacock
Okay, I think i only have one more thing left.
00:53:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:20
jamie peacock
Oh, no, I have two more things. Fusion is retarded. Ooh, I'm dropping a hard R again.
00:53:22
Curt
Okay.
00:53:23
jamie peacock
Okay. So my Fusion other day entirely shut the bed with drilling cycles. Like entirely. Just would not post the code.
00:53:32
Curt
Okay.
00:53:34
jamie peacock
Restarted Fusion, it posted, and then did something, and then it stopped posting.
00:53:36
Curt
Oh,
00:53:40
jamie peacock
So kind of curious to anyone out there, is anyone else having shit with their Fusion ah when you are saying select same diameter and running holes on different planes is when it tends to do this?
00:53:40
Curt
that's weird.
00:53:52
Curt
Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
00:53:53
jamie peacock
Like we're not talking like um in stupid planes, just like a couple mils difference. And it's just, yeah, every now and again, it shits the bed hard. And I logged a report that actually wanted me to send the file through with Fusion because I'm like, this is unacceptable.
00:54:07
Curt
um
00:54:08
jamie peacock
ah I've spent an hour trying to post this code. My machine's standing because I can't post this drilling code. It posted fine. And then ah regenerated the toolpaths and a wouldn't post again.
00:54:23
Curt
weird
00:54:23
jamie peacock
yeah just telling me like it's not a dimension i'm like dudes it's a fucking dimension you posted it two minutes ago so yeah it really it shut the bed hard so i need to figure out what's what's kind of going on there it is also posting code to like the eighth decimal because i just yolo placed holes because it's for a fixture and doesn't it's like fixturing holes like yolo draw a circle that's where it is no dimension no constraints no dimensions fuck all
00:54:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, so it was posting with a lot of digits.
00:54:48
Curt
interesting.
00:54:50
jamie peacock
i don't know if that was causing the issue. um But yeah, like the kernel crashed and then took me a while to figure out I need to restart Fusion.
00:54:53
Curt
I know. Weird.
00:54:59
jamie peacock
I restarted, it posted, ah changed something else and then it wouldn't post again. And then I restarted again, and then it posted, and I'm like, don't fuck with it.
00:55:04
Curt
Hmm.
00:55:08
jamie peacock
Just leave it as is.
00:55:08
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:09
jamie peacock
Like, just post the code and run the fucking machine.
00:55:09
Curt
Hmm.
00:55:12
jamie peacock
Because at that point, I'd lost, I think, close on an hour. trying to I'd run every other toolpath, and I needed to go back and drill these drill toolpaths so that I could take the part off the machine.
00:55:22
Curt
Hmm.
00:55:22
jamie peacock
yeah, really weird.
00:55:22
Curt
Hmm.
00:55:24
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, we did Combat ro Robot Tournament this weekend.
00:55:28
Curt
Yeah, i watched I watched that little video. i think I think it's just a regular video on Instagram.
00:55:30
jamie peacock
Dude.
00:55:32
Curt
People can go watch it.
00:55:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, I posted as a real...
00:55:33
Curt
watch it Yeah, that's cool. I like watching little robots.
00:55:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, thwanker. again It was fun. I lost my weapon every single fight.
00:55:40
Curt
yeah Did you? Okay, I love the sound of that weapon.
00:55:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, so, dude.
00:55:43
Curt
Yeah. Oh, wow.
00:55:45
jamie peacock
So that we bought new motors, and though were they were cheap motors, like super cheap, $15 motor and ESC combo from AliExpress.
00:55:45
Curt
Wow. yeah
00:55:52
Curt
whole while wow
00:55:53
jamie peacock
Like, super cheap. And the shaft on the motor goes into the bell and has a grump screw on the side. No flats on the shaft. So you get a little bit of impact and shoots off.
00:56:02
Curt
Oh, okay, yeah.
00:56:05
jamie peacock
So first time I go, oh, should I snap the shaft?
00:56:08
Curt
Right.
00:56:09
jamie peacock
Finish the match, unload. Hey, wait, the shaft's there. Huh. Push it back together, tighten the screw again. Carried on like that all day, every fight.
00:56:15
Curt
Cool.
00:56:17
jamie peacock
I had the bell come off at 10,000 RPM and bounce that weapon around the arena. hitting but It hit the wooden bumper, the one window, and then the other window.
00:56:28
Curt
cool
00:56:29
jamie peacock
And then I still won the match because then I just switched to a pushing match. And I've got the wedge, so I just pushed them around.
00:56:32
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:56:34
jamie peacock
But yeah, no, it was a was a lot of fun over the weekend. I think I came third. I ended up driving myself into the pits in one of the matches in the semifinal.
00:56:39
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:56:42
Curt
Mm.
00:56:43
jamie peacock
But yeah, no, it was hell of a lot of fun. It always is. Like now we're getting more destructive
Robot Battles and Safety Measures
00:56:47
jamie peacock
guys. So this was the most destructive bots we've had. had
00:56:51
Curt
Mm.
00:56:52
jamie peacock
We had six destructive bots, and I think we only had eight non-destructives this week. So it was, yeah, it's getting more and more destructive, which is awesome.
00:56:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:01
jamie peacock
Guys are learning. Bring spares. Be ready to repair your robots. ah
00:57:05
Curt
it's
00:57:05
jamie peacock
I've got some very silly plans afoot. 225.
00:57:09
Curt
It's interesting because I'm assuming that's like 250 gram weight class or something like that.
00:57:13
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:14
Curt
Okay. And it's it's just amazing the amount of like potential energy you can still develop with a robot that small.
00:57:15
jamie peacock
yeah
00:57:20
Curt
Because the little crashes are like there were they're like ah legit.
00:57:20
jamie peacock
Well, yeah.
00:57:23
Curt
Just like, boom. youre like, whoo-hoo-hoo.
00:57:24
jamie peacock
So
00:57:25
Curt
Glad there's glass or flexi around this.
00:57:25
jamie peacock
there's a ah yeah there's polycarb around it, and we're going to probably put a 2mm layer of Lumex, which is PTG, offset with two-way tape on the inside.
00:57:37
jamie peacock
that That'll get stuffed up, and then we just replace that because that's cheap, as opposed to the expensive polycarb.
00:57:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:43
jamie peacock
So I'm going to be able to get away with a 337 gram robot with what I have planned. Because there's a non-conventional locomotion bonus of 50%.
00:57:52
Curt
Oh. Oh, OK.
00:57:53
jamie peacock
There's a robot called Droopy. It's got two weapons like this and feet.
00:57:56
Curt
OK. Yeah. yeah
00:58:01
jamie peacock
And you spool one up and spool either down. And it goes, what the And you walk.
00:58:06
Curt
Oh, OK, OK.
00:58:06
jamie peacock
So it's super slow. But come at me, bro. I'm just weapon. Like, it's all weapons.
00:58:10
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah
00:58:12
jamie peacock
So, yeah, I'm going to probably build one of those with some old motors from a six-inch racing drone from, like, 2014, 2013 that I've got kicking around.
00:58:18
Curt
Cool.
00:58:21
Curt
Yeah. Oh,
00:58:22
jamie peacock
So think I'm going to build one of those just for something different.
00:58:26
Curt
oh that's cool.
00:58:27
jamie peacock
Because then it's literally case of, come at me, bro. I got this. Like, you're not stopping my weapons. Like, and just, yeah.
00:58:34
Curt
Yeah, let's see. That's the one Google search I'm avoiding here is like local robot fighting club. Cause I guarantee there's a few of them right in my city that I could probably just go to.
00:58:42
jamie peacock
There'll be a bunch. Yeah.
00:58:43
Curt
And like, but I'm like, Oh, this is going such a bad, cause I have a shop where I could build the coolest robots with, and I have to know how to do it.
00:58:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. So that's...
00:58:50
Curt
like, now no, no, I can't buy.
00:58:51
jamie peacock
The only way I have discipline on this is I don't look at it till the Thursday before the tournament.
00:58:58
Curt
Sure.
00:58:58
jamie peacock
So I might spend a little bit of CAD time, but I don't start making anything till the Thursday before. And I mean, Thwanker was put together, was designed at five o'clock on Friday evening between five and six.
00:59:04
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:08
jamie peacock
Took me about an hour to design up. I put the print on before I went to bed. Saturday morning, I machined everything and I competed at 12 o'clock.
00:59:16
Curt
cool.
00:59:17
jamie peacock
Like threw it together.
00:59:17
Curt
That's cool. ah
00:59:18
jamie peacock
And yeah, I didn't have time to actually play with my robots. It was be ready for tournaments, but I only have like half a day because otherwise it can just eat up your whole life.
00:59:29
Curt
so That's what it would do. That's 100% what I would spend all week building these things.
00:59:30
jamie peacock
Also, Yeah. We started the league when I had a bit more time. I wasn't, or I was busy with easy stuff and like overheads weren't as high as they are now with the machine payments and whatnot.
00:59:39
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:42
jamie peacock
So it was fun. I could afford to spend some time on it. Now, work comes first. Like robots are very secondary and thirdry. Like, yeah, they're not a high priority to me.
00:59:51
Curt
yeah
00:59:54
Curt
on i um I'd want to build something. I'd want to build a tiny one because it'd be really fun to build tiny one.
00:59:58
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:59
Curt
But also I would also love to build just a tank. Like a 50 pound class death machine.
01:00:02
jamie peacock
The thing is, like, they get so expensive so quickly.
01:00:04
Curt
I i know. i know.
01:00:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:00:06
Curt
there yeah The motors, the battery, everything gets... And then the the damage gets huge.
01:00:08
jamie peacock
Everything.
01:00:10
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:00:11
jamie peacock
No, just it just gets silly. That's what's nice about the small stuff, is you don't necessarily write a bot off every fight.
01:00:11
Curt
yeah
01:00:17
Curt
Well, and you can you can fight in, like, an arena that you can build, as opposed to being like, okay, well, we need two-inch thick, like, because, you know, like, we got millions of jewels of power, and, like...
01:00:20
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:00:23
jamie peacock
Well, this this arena is rated... Yeah, as far as I can tell, this arena is rated for one pound. That's what I was expected for. It's a four foot by four foot arena with four millimeter polycarb.
01:00:37
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:37
jamie peacock
And if you're obeying the tip speed limits, you're good with ah with up to one pound.
01:00:38
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:43
jamie peacock
And yeah, we don't enforce tip speed limits now because you can't really put that much weapon.
01:00:44
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:47
jamie peacock
Like everyone's running 2S. We know what motors they're running. We know they're not going to get anything much over... What's it? It's... assuming your battery's fresh,
01:00:59
Curt
20K or something, yeah.
01:01:00
jamie peacock
yeah, 18,000 RPM, that's nowhere near problematic speeds.
01:01:03
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:05
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, if people start doing dumb shit, then we will start to regulate that. Like we've actually, we're putting out a thing now, we will be enforcing a throttle kill switch on your remotes.
01:01:11
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:17
jamie peacock
Also, your remote will be put on a table while you load into the arena. And once the doors are closed, you may pick up your remote. Because we had the one weapon spin up while the guys were in the arena.
01:01:23
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:26
jamie peacock
And it's like, no one's been injured yet. But like, all my remotes, all the guys have spinning weapons, except for one team, have got kill switches. Like, I know my remote, click it, disarmed.
01:01:26
Curt
yeah
01:01:34
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:36
jamie peacock
You can move the throttle, nothing's happening. um
01:01:38
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:39
jamie peacock
Whereas their remotes, I need to figure out how to implement it on their remotes for them. And then I'm just going to force them to have it.
01:01:44
jamie peacock
Because at some point, there's going to be a problem.
01:01:44
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:45
Curt
that's Yeah, Yeah.
01:01:47
jamie peacock
Like we have the fire extinguisher that we don't want to use because it' was expensive, but it's the end case.
01:01:51
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:51
jamie peacock
Like we have a ah lithium, a fire extinguisher for lithium because at some point, someone's battery is catching fire.
01:01:56
Curt
Hmm.
01:01:59
Curt
Absolutely.
01:01:59
jamie peacock
So we we are ready for it.
01:02:00
Curt
Yeah, absolutely.
01:02:01
jamie peacock
um I mean, we did ah an event where we had two buckets of sand ready to go. One to throw the robot in and one to bury it.
01:02:09
Curt
yeah Yeah, that works too.
01:02:09
jamie peacock
Sitting under, waiting because at some point, it was going to go badly.
01:02:10
Curt
Yeah. yeah
01:02:14
jamie peacock
ah job It will happen and it will be exciting. So let's talk about your last topic and then your second to last topic right at the end
01:02:18
Curt
Oh, fun.
Managing Communication Overload
01:02:21
jamie peacock
before we get to our goggle boxes.
01:02:22
Curt
Okay. I think we would both need um the second or the last topic. So I think it's something that you're probably running into as well.
01:02:28
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:02:29
Curt
um ah So well we'll just talk about that one. Why not? um
01:02:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:34
Curt
Unless you want to go the other way around. I don't care.
01:02:36
jamie peacock
No, no, it's fine.
01:02:38
Curt
ah Just ah an auto-replier. I think we both could... like I'm going to set one up. but Because I send the same message to so many people. And I don't really want a canned response.
01:02:46
jamie peacock
Fair enough.
01:02:48
Curt
But something i just sometimes I just need a canned response to get the the data across.
01:02:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:52
Curt
And then I can still throw a couple little tidbits in there to make it feel like I'm not just a robot. But like...
01:02:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:57
Curt
it's It's amazing how few people it takes just to swamp like a single person on like... Between like email... and i'm I'm trying not to like humble brag, but like between like Instagram and like ah emails and then like orders that come through.
01:03:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:09
Curt
and like it's like Some people just legitimately want to send me a message to be like, hey, how's it going? Like... like they're curious about like, and I sometimes can't reply to them. Cause is like, I get and like so much, so much as I spend like hours just talking to people.
01:03:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:23
Curt
And just like, it gets, I can't imagine people that have like, uh, you know, a customer base of a hundred times my size. Like I totally get, well, I totally get why you have to have people to do this.
01:03:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, that must be insane.
01:03:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:34
Curt
Cause it's like, there's no possible way you would ever catch it.
01:03:36
Curt
Like you would get more messages and you would ever be able to reply to in a day. You just, you'd spend your entire day just talking with people. That's all you would do. And it's like,
01:03:44
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:45
Curt
It's crazy. So anyways, I just want to set up a bunch of that.
01:03:46
jamie peacock
No, that's, yeah. That's how I was when I came in now, when I got back. Because, I mean, it's, it's okay, now it's 5.20. But when I came back from that the meeting, I'd been assembling stuff. Then got in my truck, drove there, drove back.
01:03:58
jamie peacock
It had been about two hours since I had had a chance to actually look at my phone and reply to anything. And then I sat here going through it all, just putting out all the fires that needed to be put out before we started the podcast.
01:04:04
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:09
jamie peacock
Because, yeah, the message is coming and it can eat up your day.
01:04:13
Curt
Oh, yeah. Yeah, like crazy fast.
01:04:14
jamie peacock
Like...
01:04:15
Curt
But I mean, I guess that's one guy marketing the world. That's that's how it works. like
01:04:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly.
01:04:21
Curt
So, yeah.
01:04:22
jamie peacock
yeah i was wanting to push some of it on Stanica today, but she was busy.
01:04:26
jamie peacock
I was pushing like so the shipping issue we had.
01:04:26
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:27
Curt
Well, I think...
01:04:29
jamie peacock
i'm like, please just sort this out for me. I can't actually give it any any brain attention right now. I've got things that need to get done this morning.
Drone Innovations and Logistics
01:04:36
jamie peacock
namely anodizing that order um like i've got 15 things going on in the workshop it's a monday morning i had to drive to henley this morning because my mate lent me his battery meter or the amp meter for the rc stuff and he needed he like do i have amp meter like what acd said no no the his one i'm like yes it's upstairs i found it i'm like dude can i send it with the courier he's like no he needs it today i'm like i will see you in half an hour
01:04:50
Curt
Mm. Mm. Mm.
01:05:02
jamie peacock
because he's got a drone going to Mozambique in two days. So he's busy building packs and wants to do some testing before it goes up for infield testing. um yeah would He's got to ship the batteries up there, and they don't want to ship batteries with that capacity.
01:05:19
jamie peacock
So on the data plate, he made a typo, left off one of the zeros.
01:05:19
Curt
Yeah.
01:05:22
Curt
Oh. Oh, no. Oh, no.
01:05:26
jamie peacock
they're lithium ions they're fine um yeah the the battery on that drone the battery weighs more than the craft it flies for 70 minutes with a thermal payload on it it's friggin cool oh dude this thing this thing's this big it's not even fucking big oh so dgr commercial units uh these guys have tried them nothing flies for more than 20 minutes
01:05:26
Curt
and Oh, it looked in my arms. Yeah, that's scary.
01:05:34
Curt
Ugh.
01:05:39
Curt
some of those Some of those drones were huge. i was looking at some of the DI like come our gi commercial units. That's, yeah. They're insane. Yeah.
01:05:51
jamie peacock
They claim 60 minutes flight time. Yeah, sure.
01:05:51
Curt
Really?
01:05:53
jamie peacock
Maybe in a lab one time once. The guys reckon in the field, you're lucky to get 20 minutes on those things. They've tried them all.
01:05:54
Curt
Yeah, Oh, yeah?
01:06:01
Curt
and Some of those are huge. or like The payload's like 80 kilograms. You're like, oh, these are big boys.
01:06:04
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah. He's, ah so Dave designed one.
01:06:06
Curt
Wow.
01:06:08
jamie peacock
It's, what you call it? It's the cart, air cart something. 250 kilo payload for delivering ammunition in the front lines.
01:06:14
Curt
wow
01:06:17
Curt
That's insane. i just I just forget that this stuff exists. like Of course drones have gone this way, yeah.
01:06:20
jamie peacock
Dude, he sent me a data sheet for a motor, and I look, and I'm like, oh, that's cool. I had another look, and I'm like, oh, wait, it's not a four-inch blade, it's a 40-inch blade.
01:06:33
jamie peacock
And it's not 250 grams of 250 kilograms of Now, insane.
01:06:39
Curt
and
01:06:40
jamie peacock
Absolute insanity.
01:06:40
Curt
ah
01:06:42
jamie peacock
But yeah, he's he's quite deep in that. He's busy with the one he developed that I made parts for. And yeah, that thing's beautiful.
01:06:46
Curt
yeah
01:06:46
jamie peacock
Like, needs some design changes for version two. But really pretty.
01:06:50
Curt
There.
01:06:51
jamie peacock
And yeah, he's really gotten a good at building those. so So it's going to go Combat Asus in North Mozambique.
01:06:55
Curt
So.
01:06:59
Curt
That's cool. That's wild.
01:06:59
jamie peacock
Because apparently they're trying to get into Mozambique. So they're going to go use it as a thermal thermal imaging platform.
01:07:05
Curt
Wild.
01:07:07
Curt
That's cool.
01:07:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, know. The world is interesting. So now on to the topic that we left right till the end.
01:07:10
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:13
Curt
Yeah, so...
01:07:13
jamie peacock
That is super family friendly.
01:07:14
Curt
ah Yeah, so I'm going to buy a giant ah sex machine for my shop ah to help help me.
01:07:20
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:07:22
Curt
um
Creative Workshop Projects
01:07:23
Curt
so
01:07:23
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:07:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:23
Curt
No, it was I was thinking about it.
01:07:25
Curt
So like I do so much like just ah sanding. like ah Sanding what you essentially could do on a belt center. Think about it that way.
01:07:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:34
Curt
um So then, ah honestly, it's probably the way I'll go, but we'll we'll lead with this because it's more ah salacious. Hellacious, salacious, one of the words. um So I was like, you know what?
01:07:42
jamie peacock
So you do know Danica's going to title this Kurt Sex Robot, right?
01:07:43
Curt
If I...
01:07:46
Curt
That's okay. Yeah, that's okay. ah Because if it doesn't work as a sanding robot, like there's secondary uses.
01:07:48
jamie peacock
Okay. Okay,
01:07:51
Curt
um Yeah, exactly.
01:07:52
jamie peacock
go along with your camera.
01:07:54
Curt
With the new camera. Yeah, oh this I'll just run it past the wife. She'll be all right with it. She's cool with that kind of stuff.
01:07:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:58
Curt
um So what I basically wanted to do is like, I want like a really flat, platen surface. And I'm like, well, all I'm doing is like, I'm moving this part back and forth to put like a satin finish with a nice grain direction.
01:08:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:08:10
Curt
I'm like, what I could do is I'm like, if I had this thing on just like a linear, like linear rails, like ah let's say a granite plate, like I have about a 12 inch by 12 inch or whatever, 30 mil or 30 centimeter by 30 centimeter granite plate, put it on linear tracks and then hook a motor up to it, um which is kind of an eccentric so that it just oscillates it back and forth.
01:08:14
jamie peacock
yeah yeah
01:08:29
Curt
And then basically have ah have a gas pedal. So like I can oscillate it back and forth at like, yeah, like very slowly.
01:08:32
jamie peacock
yeah you can see at the speed here
01:08:35
Curt
Or if I, you know, hammer the gas and it goes quick and that way I could, you know, put parts on it and just basically oscillate it back and forth, you know, nice and slowly have very controlled because this is I'm not taking material off. Like I'm, I'm applying a decorative finish.
01:08:44
jamie peacock
No, you just yeah you're adding the finish.
01:08:46
Curt
Yeah. And like, I was going to go like, I mean, belt satter would work fine too, but like getting the grits I want is kind of an issue.
01:08:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:08:52
Curt
And like the platens aren't flat enough for like all round over edges. um I could use like a knife making grinder, which is probably the way I go. Cause you can get a grits in any, like a two by 72.
01:09:02
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, you can get a hell of a lot of options.
01:09:02
Curt
z You can get a nice yeah you get nice flat platens. You can get the grits and whatever you want. It's probably the way I would all go about this. And then I could still put a gas pedal on it so I could get the part you know on a flat and then just accelerate the belt you know just to get a ah you know put a grain on it and move along.
01:09:19
Curt
um But yeah, i thought I thought a big oscillating thing would be much funnier. Are you sending me a link?
01:09:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, would be...
01:09:25
Curt
Okay.
01:09:25
jamie peacock
Yes, it's to... No, no, it's to a sewing machine servo. They're not expensive.
01:09:29
Curt
Okay.
01:09:29
jamie peacock
It's 700-watt servo that does 50 to 600 RPM, or 50 to 6,000 RPM or something stupid. With a pedal.
01:09:35
Curt
Okay, I'll click it.
01:09:35
jamie peacock
The linkage for a pedal.
01:09:38
Curt
I'll click it. I'll see what Jamie has actually sent me.
01:09:39
jamie peacock
Click it. It'll be great.
01:09:41
Curt
This is not a sewing machine. No, it's a sewing machine. um
01:09:43
jamie peacock
Because you you wouldn't even have to use a piece of granite. You could probably get away with just using a thick piece of glass.
01:09:47
Curt
Oh, yeah. Or glass or mic six or something.
01:09:48
jamie peacock
Like...
01:09:50
Curt
I just have a ton of granite pieces.
01:09:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, so the knife shop up the road, he sells 10, yeah, exactly, sells 10 millimeter thick glass that guys put sandpaper on for doing exactly what you want to do, but by hand, like poor people, not with a sex robot.
01:09:52
Curt
That's a lot of weight to throw around, but... Oh, that's... God, that's cheap. That's so cheap.
01:10:03
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like, and I do it by hand like a poor person and it's fine, but like, it's starting to get like tedious and I was like, you know what?
01:10:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:10:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:10:11
Curt
If I can just oscillate this bad boy, because spinning it, like spinning it would be easier, but then you get, you get circular grain.
01:10:13
jamie peacock
There we go.
01:10:17
jamie peacock
Yes, you want straight grain.
01:10:17
Curt
I don't want that.
01:10:18
Curt
I want perfectly linear.
01:10:19
jamie peacock
And the straight grain, would you want to disengage on the backstroke, are you just wanting to just go back and forth?
01:10:19
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:26
Curt
I don't really care. I mean, you could go continuously in one direction.
01:10:27
jamie peacock
Because...
01:10:29
Curt
I was just, oh, we're back.
01:10:29
jamie peacock
Ooh. No, there we go, back. Don't know what happened there first.
01:10:33
Curt
Weird. Okay.
01:10:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, that this is why I didn't want Faber. was that exact reason.
01:10:38
Curt
Oh, just boop boop. Disconnect, reconnect.
01:10:40
jamie peacock
ah Yeah. So I don't know if you follow... um Keybar. Keybar Mark.
01:10:46
Curt
ah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.
01:10:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, have you seen how he does his grained finish?
01:10:49
Curt
With like a 10 foot long.
01:10:50
jamie peacock
Super long piece of sandpaper on his table and just grabs it and walks along.
01:10:51
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:55
jamie peacock
I'm like, that's freaking genius.
01:10:55
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:56
jamie peacock
Because I used to, when I did the bolt belt, ah did the I did the same thing.
01:10:57
Curt
yeah
01:11:00
jamie peacock
I put a grain on all the edges with 400 grit sandpaper on a piece of granite, wet sanding it before anodized it.
01:11:04
Curt
yeah
01:11:07
jamie peacock
Because back then my surface finish was up to shit.
01:11:07
Curt
yeah
01:11:09
jamie peacock
Now I get decent finishes.
01:11:10
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:12
jamie peacock
Actually, the last batch of mag bases that went out. So previously... They would get tumbled to deburr internal and then scotch brited.
01:11:20
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:21
jamie peacock
And this last batch, I tumbled in the big tumbler and then I tumbled in the small tumbler and I ran straight through ammo and magic finish.
01:11:27
Curt
Mm.
01:11:30
jamie peacock
Like super, super, like just uniform, beautiful finish.
01:11:31
Curt
Nice.
01:11:34
jamie peacock
I was pretty happy because it means i don't have to stand at the bloody scotch briter wheel going me with the respirator because that's kind of lame.
01:11:35
Curt
Nice.
01:11:40
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:41
jamie peacock
Like, and I was getting inconsistence. Like, I was getting streaks in my part from the Scotch-Brite wheel, where it was embedding stuff into the material, and it was causing streaks in my anode, which was also nightmare to chase down.
01:11:48
Curt
Oh, yeah.
01:11:55
jamie peacock
Like, I was getting streaks in my blue, especially. And then i would run other stuff, and there would be no issues.
01:11:58
Curt
um
01:12:01
jamie peacock
And I basically got it down to being the Scotch-Brite wheel leaving bits in there.
01:12:02
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:06
Curt
Yeah. Well, and I should say also the other reason i was thinking about this of like something oscillating is I want to do it all wet.
01:12:08
jamie peacock
Um...
01:12:12
Curt
Like, um, I don't want, I hate dust. I like, i hate dust so much. So even if I built like some sort of putting notes in there, uh, even I've built some sort of like, like a two by 72, I would still want it to operate underwater or with like a mist on it.
01:12:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:12:20
jamie peacock
yeah
01:12:26
Curt
Like I can just imagine this thing slinging slurry.
01:12:26
jamie peacock
Yeah. But it slings it. Yeah, I've done that.
01:12:30
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:31
jamie peacock
I used to surface ground parts on my, for whatever the one inch little belt sander is from Harbor Freight.
01:12:31
Curt
Yeah.
CNC and Custom Machinery
01:12:38
jamie peacock
I had one of those that I made a surface grounding attachment to and printed a TPU top wheel for the contact wheel.
01:12:38
Curt
oh
01:12:41
Curt
Yeah, that's
01:12:43
jamie peacock
And Kurt, you need to not send things like this.
01:12:47
Curt
a a good link. yeah ah yeah that's that's a good link
01:12:54
jamie peacock
It's a horrible link. I hate you.
01:12:57
Curt
it's We'll put in the show notes. ah Total aside, it's a someone that built a CNC lathe and they did it so well.
01:12:59
jamie peacock
oh definitely.
01:13:03
Curt
And it's a forum thread on CNC's own. I've read it probably a billion times now. It's beautiful.
01:13:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's, dude, that is impressive, yeah.
01:13:08
Curt
So go check it out if you're into if you're and you're into mechanical porn. It's so pretty. He did such a nice job.
01:13:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, like, it's amazing. Hello, advert, can you go away so i can look at the pretty pictures, please? Close? I feel like it's a link to somewhere. Oh, no, it isn't. It's actually the close button. and Okay, let me not get distracted by the things, the machine porn that Kern sends me.
01:13:28
jamie peacock
um But yeah love yeah, I think if you make that thing oscillating underwater, you'd be, like, it would be a lot easier to do it than have it flinging water everywhere.
01:13:35
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:38
Curt
That's why I was kind of going down the oscillating route, because I'm like that's dead simple, and I could keep it entirely underwater.
01:13:40
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
01:13:42
Curt
And then, like I said, secondary uses if it doesn't pan out.
01:13:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, it'll be sweet. Exactly.
01:13:46
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:47
jamie peacock
And that, yeah, that, that motor is pretty powerful. I don't know if you follow, I'm going to butcher this name one second before i butcher the name.
01:13:50
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, that's fun.
01:13:55
jamie peacock
Um, I think I might be able to pick it up off my YouTube history instead of, uh, uh, actually before we let's do what's in your Google box while I find this.
01:14:07
Curt
Okay, well, you search away. What's in my Google box is the the link I just sent ah Jamie, which if you don't want to click the show alone show note links, if you just Google Blight's CNC lathe, like blight, like as what happens to crops, um he's got a beautiful build.
01:14:23
Curt
um So that's, it's it's like a turret CNC lathe, just tiny desktop size, but built super, super well. So pretty.
01:14:29
jamie peacock
The turret's super cool.
01:14:30
Curt
um Yeah, like everything is just a custom machine. The wiring is beautiful. The cable management is beautiful. the Everything is just really, he built a bench for it, an enclosure. just it's It's pretty. Just go look at it.
01:14:43
Curt
um That, a bunch of CNC-related stuff. um The Actionbox YouTube channel, they also did a DIY CNC lathe.
01:14:51
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:14:53
Curt
ah You should go check out that video if you haven't.
01:14:54
jamie peacock
No, they didn't. They bought an Emco and retrofitted it.
01:14:57
Curt
Yeah, OK, I was going to i was goingnna caveat that with it's still pretty.
01:14:58
jamie peacock
I'll put a link for that.
01:15:00
Curt
um He did a cool job on that.
01:15:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:15:02
Curt
ah So that's also in my search. And ah
01:15:05
jamie peacock
I actually rewatched that the other day.
01:15:08
Curt
oh, yeah? Yeah, and.
01:15:09
jamie peacock
Yeah. ah can't remember why I rewatched it. Oh, want to see how he integrated his turret, because I wasn't sure what turret the 140 had on it that I'm looking at.
Tech and Media Exploration
01:15:19
jamie peacock
But it turns out it's compatible with my current turret program, so bonus.
01:15:23
Curt
Nice. And the last thing in my Google box is a website called retro games official.
01:15:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:15:28
Curt
They have the retro gamer pro. It's like a little game boy esque looking thing, but it has like every console on it for playing all the little games, got little analog stick.
01:15:36
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:15:37
Curt
So ah Instagram caught me with her ad and i clicked it. And now I'm like, Oh, interesting. So I'm going to Google and make sure it's not just like vaporware, make sure it actually exists and that people actually think it's good. And I'm going to buy myself something like that.
01:15:47
jamie peacock
oh
01:15:48
Curt
I think.
01:15:49
jamie peacock
I was actually looking at building a portable with a Par 5, because Par 5 can simulate a PS2.
01:15:54
Curt
Yep.
01:15:58
Curt
Yep, yep, yep.
01:15:58
jamie peacock
And if I can simulate a PS2, I can play GTA 3. And Need for Speed most wanted the original one. So I was kind of keen on that.
01:16:05
Curt
Yeah.
01:16:06
jamie peacock
But yeah, I don't I kind of want something to to be portable with because it's cold in winter. But I don't want to spend the money on on a portable gaming solution because I don't play that many games.
01:16:13
Curt
Yeah. well it's like
01:16:18
Curt
Fair, and this was it this is like $140, was like wow that's like, I'm not going to be able to build it for that.
01:16:19
jamie peacock
No. That's not too bad.
01:16:23
Curt
and like i'm I would rather just play it than build it.
01:16:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:16:27
jamie peacock
Exactly. No, exactly. was looking at the Switch and the ROG Li and a bunch of other ones.
01:16:28
Curt
Yeah.
01:16:32
jamie peacock
ah Okay, anyway, wait, let me go back there I can get the name correct. um Marius Hornberger.
01:16:32
Curt
Yeah.
01:16:41
Curt
Yep, I follow him.
01:16:42
jamie peacock
Did you see his video?
01:16:44
Curt
ah The newest, but like, ah
01:16:47
jamie peacock
The tool post milling spindle.
01:16:49
Curt
grinder to a post? Yeah, no, I haven't watched it. saw it come across my feed.
01:16:52
jamie peacock
Oh, dude, it's really good.
01:16:52
Curt
Okay, sec.
01:16:53
jamie peacock
I watched it other night. He uses one of those servos that I sent you the link for to drive it.
01:16:57
Curt
Oh, nice. Okay, cool.
01:16:58
jamie peacock
ah He's got that thing going up to 30,000 RPM.
01:16:58
Curt
Cool, cool, cool.
01:17:02
Curt
Whoa.
01:17:02
jamie peacock
With his belts, adjustable belt speeds. So yeah, very interesting.
01:17:07
Curt
Wow.
01:17:08
jamie peacock
Very cleverly engineered. ah Very interesting watching him make that spindle.
01:17:13
Curt
Cool. I'm going to check it out because I do like his content.
01:17:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, so yeah.
01:17:15
Curt
I like how he shifted from
01:17:15
jamie peacock
I'll put a link in the description as well.
01:17:18
Curt
Like I was shifted from woodworking to like CNC and now he's going to the machining world.
01:17:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:17:22
Curt
It's like ah, yes, come, come to the dark side.
01:17:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, it took him a few attempts to make some of those parts. It was quite entertaining to watch. It's like, huh, I know that feeling.
01:17:28
Curt
Cool.
01:17:29
jamie peacock
um Cool, so my Google box, I'm on 50 and Wordle.
01:17:30
Curt
Oh.
01:17:34
jamie peacock
Was looking up kitchen timers, which have arrived, and I have a kitchen timer in my ano setup now. It's great. Was looking up Spurgias for some reason. Looking on Everent to see what books are available on that service, because Danica has that service, and it's not super expensive, and I don't really want to support Audible.
01:17:53
jamie peacock
Um...
01:17:53
Curt
Fair
01:17:55
jamie peacock
Oh, no, don't open the link. Apparently I was looking at something on KoreaGar. Also, I've been looking up something called NewTab three times. It's kind of weird. I was looking up Droopy's Weight, the combat robot.
01:18:08
jamie peacock
Um... Looking up Omniwheels. Trying to find a source for little Omniwheels.
01:18:15
Curt
yeah
01:18:15
jamie peacock
I want to build a robot that's something different. now Something that the guys will battle to fight.
01:18:19
Curt
enough
01:18:20
jamie peacock
Um... Looking up Project Hail Mary, looking up Seven Eves, looking up the anchor point. And then one of my customers that we laser engrave for, I have like four of their things from scanning their QR codes that I laser engrave.
01:18:35
jamie peacock
Also, figured out how to dwell Danica figured out for me how to do variable-driven engraving on Lightburn. So you pull in a ah CSV file with all your serial numbers and QR code addresses, and you link the CSV to your file, and you say automatically increments, and every time you engrave, it engraves the next serial number and the next ah corresponding QR code.
01:18:45
Curt
sick. That's cool.
01:18:48
Curt
Yeah.
01:18:51
Curt
Yeah.
01:18:55
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:19:01
Curt
Oh, cool.
01:19:01
jamie peacock
and like Just every time you hit go, it updates, updates.
01:19:01
Curt
Nice.
01:19:03
jamie peacock
So we did 25 of them the other day in like half an hour.
01:19:08
jamie peacock
So very, very, I knew it could do it. I just didn't know how to do it. Because like, it's one of the things, oh we can do serial number engraving.
01:19:08
Curt
Oh, cool.
01:19:12
Curt
Right.
01:19:14
jamie peacock
i'm like how the fuck are you doing that? And now I know how to automatically sequence.
01:19:17
Curt
i might have be but have to bend your ear. I was playing with that, and I couldn't quite get it to work. so Interesting.
01:19:22
jamie peacock
Oh, I guess it wasn't super complicated from what I saw.
01:19:23
Curt
Interesting.
01:19:26
Curt
I didn't and invest a ton of time in into it either, but interesting.
01:19:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, yeah, okay, we'll chat about that between the shows.
01:19:29
Curt
Interesting.
01:19:31
jamie peacock
so
01:19:32
jamie peacock
um Because I'm kind of curious as to what you are laser engraving.
01:19:32
Curt
Yeah, sure.
Family Plans and Nostalgia
01:19:36
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, what are you up to today?
01:19:36
Curt
and
01:19:38
jamie peacock
i assume not working.
01:19:40
Curt
Nope. I'm going to finish this. I'm going to go have a coffee, hang out with the little rats, probably take them to the park. And don't know, it's kind of fun the day away. Just, I don't know, I've got to mow.
01:19:49
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:19:49
Curt
It's been like 30 degrees here and raining every night. So my yard is like a forest because everything is just growing super well.
01:19:52
jamie peacock
Ah.
01:19:55
Curt
So and be a and yeah, an outside play day.
01:19:55
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, our yard very brown. Because it hasn't rained in a while.
01:20:01
Curt
Hmm. Yeah.
01:20:02
jamie peacock
But yeah. Yeah, I'm going to go watch Happy Gilmore.
01:20:03
Curt
Yeah, how about you? Ooh, nice.
01:20:05
jamie peacock
Happy Gilmore 2. Yeah, because apparently, so apparently the reviews and people's opinions are me, but they've also got the Gen Alpha and the Gen Z's going, eh, this is a offensive.
01:20:07
Curt
Haven't seen it yet, so. um
01:20:15
jamie peacock
um But apparently if you watch it from the perspective of when you watch the first one, like, it's the same as the first one. It's an Adam Sandler movie. You know what you're going to Don't expect it to be something other than that.
01:20:25
Curt
Yeah.
01:20:27
jamie peacock
So anyway, we're going to watch it tonight because I think it'll be entertaining. Um...
01:20:30
Curt
Nice. I think like you're going to be all right, yeah.
01:20:31
jamie peacock
And yeah, worst case, I'm going to waste two hours of my life. I'm sure it'll be funny. Like, from what I've seen, the scenes I've seen, it looks kind of funny.
01:20:36
Curt
of
01:20:38
jamie peacock
looks stupid funny, but funny.
01:20:41
Curt
ah I talked to my buddy this weekend. He just, he watched, he's like, dude, he's like, if you'd like the first one, he's like, you're going to like this one. He's like, it gets a little weird.
01:20:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:20:46
Curt
He's like, you're going to dig it. i was like okay, sweet. That's all That's the only review I need.
01:20:48
jamie peacock
So Danica and I were discussing the Naked Gun, because I want to go watch the new Naked Gun movie. And she's like, she doesn't do slapstick. I'm like, it's sad.
01:20:56
Curt
ah
01:20:58
jamie peacock
She's like, if someone slips over a banana peel... It is slapstick. I'm like, okay, fair enough. But yeah, she there was something she said she really liked that wasn't, she didn't classify it as slapstick. I'm like, eh, it's pretty close.
01:21:09
jamie peacock
um Oh, Robin Hood Men in Tart. She's like, no, that's satire. I'm like, technically Naked Gun is satire of police movies, but yeah, I'm gonna go watch it.
01:21:16
Curt
yeah Fine line, fine line.
01:21:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, and it's it's really stupid funny, and it's dumb, but it's funny, and yeah you need some dumb shit in your life every now and again. Life can't be all serious, and if you don't think life's a joke, just look at sex, and you'll realize the human race is a joke.
01:21:27
Curt
Absolutely.
01:21:32
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:21:33
Curt
Yeah.
01:21:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:21:37
Curt
yeah
01:21:38
jamie peacock
Anyway, on that delightful thing, thank you everybody for listening.
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01:21:43
jamie peacock
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jamie peacock
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01:22:08
jamie peacock
So yeah, then you'll get to see our faces while we point at things. I'm pointing now, but no one's going to see this. It's great. Pointing at things.
01:22:14
Curt
Take care, all.
01:22:15
jamie peacock
Like, look down here in the description and the link up there. But yeah, anyway, thank you everybody for listening. I hope you have a great day and we'll see you next week.
01:22:25
Curt
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