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Ep. 34: Siemens School of Witchcraft and Wizardry

S1 E34 · The Lone Machinists
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Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as Curt’s 2, 1, 1 week schedule, Cycle832, and Jamie reading books.

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Transcript

Opening Banter and Tool Safety

00:00:48
jamie peacock
Good morning, Kurt.
00:00:50
Curt
Good afternoon, Jamie.
00:00:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, now that we're on video, people get to see the dumb things we do during the intro. See, I was showing Kurt my little hot plate for soldering. And then my power supply, which has a Type-C plug on it, but is 24 volts.
00:01:06
jamie peacock
So it gets unplugged and packed away, so that it isn't accidentally used to charge a cell phone.
00:01:11
Curt
I think, i think us well, technically, USB-C, isn't it like, i mean, yeah, if you plug it in your cell phone, things are going to be angry, but
00:01:15
jamie peacock
ah PD is.
00:01:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. so a USB Type-C, you get PD, which is power delivery where they talk to each other and then it'll crank the voltage.
00:01:25
Curt
Right.
00:01:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, that ain't no PD.
00:01:26
Curt
Right, right.
00:01:28
jamie peacock
That's just a freaking 24 volt power supply with the USB cable attached to it.
00:01:31
Curt
yeah Just force feed at 24 volts. Yeah, probably not the best option.
00:01:34
jamie peacock
Exactly. ah Yeah, because this little guy can run on 24 volts. So I made sure that it's it gets its 24 volts. So I put my phone on silent.
00:01:43
Curt
Those things are so cute. they're like They're like little 2-inch by 2-inch hot plates for like doing...
00:01:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, they're amazing.
00:01:48
Curt
that It's incredible what what how inexpensive they are too for like if you just want to do a little bit of board work.
00:01:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:01:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I bought this for doing screw switches for the combat robots.
00:01:54
Curt
So cool.
00:01:58
Curt
Mm-hmm,

Balancing Production and Design

00:01:59
Curt
OK.
00:01:59
jamie peacock
For assembling screw switches, and now I'm going to use it to assemble those boards I was showing you before the full start of the podcast.
00:02:05
Curt
Yeah, I've wanted to buy one for no reason other than just having, like, building like a little tool set up for like soldering.
00:02:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:10
Curt
Because they're just they're so cute looking, little displays on them.
00:02:12
jamie peacock
They are super cute.
00:02:13
Curt
And they're like $100. They're not expensive. Yeah. but they're not expensive
00:02:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, I think yeah they're no not really not expensive. But anyway, what have you been ah what have you up to today, Kurt?
00:02:19
Curt
yeah
00:02:23
Curt
Uh, not a ton today yet. Actually, it's been looking at some CAD design and, uh, yeah, playing with that. This is my last, I kind of so fallen into like, I basically do like two weeks.
00:02:35
Curt
actually dropping to a topic, I guess.
00:02:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, let's jump straight into it.
00:02:36
Curt
I do like, uh, I do like roughly like two weeks of like production about one week of like packaging and finishing and getting all that like getting all the orders out of here and then I usually have one week of just kind of like R&D time or I just kind of try to push forward with new stuff um but this week I took that one week and just threw more production on so I had the machines all running production um because i was just I wanted to do CAD but I feel horrible just sitting here while the machines sit idle and I do CAD so
00:02:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:58
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:03:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:03:03
Curt
I had it cranking through some stuff. So I think I have the switch mechanism or the click mechanism finalized to the point where i can start machining it.
00:03:10
jamie peacock
Ooh.
00:03:11
Curt
Some of the tolerances are kind of ridiculous. So I kind of got to machine it to see if it actually works because I'm like, these are pretty thin parts, but I'm trying to squeeze it all into a very tight space.
00:03:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:03:20
Curt
Yeah, I'm kind of kind of jazzed about that. So think I'm going the rest of but today and tomorrow just kind of fleshing out all the machining operations, make sure everything's going work out. And I think we'll push ahead with that. So I'm i'm jazzed about that.
00:03:32
jamie peacock
Okay. yeah because that's been in the works for a hell of a long time.
00:03:32
Curt
So, yeah. yeah Well, I've had like four variants um because I'd get one variant done and I'd be like, oh, this is amazing, but it's completely silent. Like it's not going to make any sound and that's what I want.
00:03:41
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah, no.
00:03:42
Curt
and then um Then I make another version. I'm like, okay, this is great. um And like most of them are kind of like just copies or variants of other designs that kind of exist. But I'm like, well, this one, you know, after whatever half a million clicks is going to, like I can tell you there's parts that are going to wear out.
00:03:56
Curt
And it's like, oh, that's not ideal.
00:03:56
jamie peacock
yeah
00:03:57
Curt
So I'm like trying to find something that, you know, lasts forever and then hits all my goals. So I think I finally got it. So

Designing for Durability: The Click Mechanism

00:04:03
Curt
we'll see.
00:04:03
jamie peacock
You like making your life complicated.
00:04:04
Curt
We will see.
00:04:06
Curt
Yeah, well, I just, yeah, I don't know. There's like, I actually bought, I just recently bought a couple of click mechanisms and they're like, it's cool because there's like a little ball bearing and that goes around a very intricate track.
00:04:15
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:04:15
Curt
um But the way it works is like it's two sliding pieces with a ball between it.
00:04:19
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:04:19
Curt
um And it'd be fine if like, if actually people can see this on video now, like if two plates were sliding back and forth and you had a ball between it, that's fine because the ball is rolling and like that's how bearings work.
00:04:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:04:29
Curt
But in most these instances, it's also like translating on like forward backward if you want to think of it that way so you're spinning the ball and skidding it um so all these click mechanisms when they click you're skidding this little ball bearing inside and uh usually it's usually they use like brass or bronze so it's smooth feeling um but after you know a million clicks you're going to be developing slop just because this steel bearing is just sliding on all these and not rolling so i've kind of tried to avoid that design but that's all the that's all the commercial ones are made usually because it's cheap and easy to make so
00:04:35
jamie peacock
yeah
00:04:43
jamie peacock
okay yeah okay yeah
00:05:02
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's very easy to to do. Okay, interesting.
00:05:05
Curt
and And it's silent. That's it's a problem. There's no tactile feedback and there's no sound.
00:05:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:05:09
Curt
It just, it works and it's fine, but it's just like, I want click. It's the whole purpose. So,
00:05:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, 100%. Yeah, the clicking is is the fun bit.
00:05:19
Curt
yeah. Yeah, you need the click, click, click, click.
00:05:19
jamie peacock
and i You can annoy your coworkers.
00:05:21
Curt
like
00:05:22
jamie peacock
Not that ah we have those, but you can annoy them anyway.
00:05:25
Curt
Yeah, other people that have co-workers, you can annoy them.
00:05:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, there we go.
00:05:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, I was actually chatting to a guy this afternoon, the NARF guy that I make... stuff for a store and you're saying he's got to the point now where he needs to employ somebody to do the day-to-day packing of orders dealing with customers when they come into the store and things like that because he's just running he's not getting to things because he's at his capacity when he's got to still deal with customers during the day and pack orders so he was here this afternoon to pick some stuff up and had a long chat about that it's also like yeah he's carrying stock and that is a terrifying thought
00:05:35
Curt
Right. Right.
00:05:48
Curt
right
00:05:52
Curt
right
00:06:01
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it can be. I mean, it depends how fast your sales are, but yeah. like
00:06:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, but like he's bringing in weird and wonderful stuff.
00:06:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:07
jamie peacock
And then the guys are like, oh, we'll take, we'll take. He brings it in and then no one bars it. And he sits with it on the shelf for two years.
00:06:12
Curt
yeah
00:06:13
jamie peacock
So it's yeah it's an interesting thing. I was chatting to my brother about this. My brother works for a company that develops fishing rods. So they they supply, they wholesale fishing rods and fishing apparel.
00:06:24
jamie peacock
And he was saying, the rods, it's all good and well. They make three to 500% the rods. mark up on the rod And their clothing, they make like 20%. twenty per cent But they'll move through like a batch of clothing every month. So they'll move through the same amount of capital or same amount of stock. They'll roll it over 12 times in a year instead of once in a year.
00:06:47
jamie peacock
So they end up actually making more on their lower margin items than their high margin items. because their high margin items sit on the shelf for a year before they all sold out, whereas their cheap apparel, that stuff just disappears off

Inventory Management Challenges

00:07:01
jamie peacock
the shelf in a month.
00:07:02
jamie peacock
Like, they'll have it land, and within six weeks, they've got the next batch landing, because they've moved through all their stock already. So it's very interesting.
00:07:10
Curt
Yeah, well, that's so interesting because like that world is... like If I go to a brick and mortar shop and they don't have something in and they say they can bring it in for me, I'm like, no, forget it.
00:07:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:19
Curt
like I'll bring it in for me.
00:07:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:20
Curt
like I don't need you to do it.
00:07:20
jamie peacock
Exactly.
00:07:21
Curt
But then at the same time, it's like... you know I get it. like If they don't have it there, you won't buy it. And if they do have it there, you're like, ah okay, maybe I'll buy it. Maybe I won't like it. Yeah, they kind of get...
00:07:31
jamie peacock
So like my brother and i were chatting about this, you're saying the the thing with margins is, yeah, sure, you make 500% margin on the spot.
00:07:32
Curt
Yeah, it's tough world.
00:07:39
jamie peacock
Or or let's for simple sakes, let's say, okay, cool, you make 100% margin. You got to outlay $10,000 and within the year, you're going sell it. You're to make 100% margin. going to end up with $10,000 $10,000 to reinvest in more stock.
00:07:52
jamie peacock
ten thousand dollars to reinvest the more stock Or you spend $10,000 and you make a 20% margin, but you move it five times through the year. You still end up with the same $10,000 profit at the end of the year, but you've just cycled that money through.
00:08:06
jamie peacock
So yeah, very

Improving Machine Operations

00:08:07
jamie peacock
interesting chat. Like, it's not always about making giant margins. It's about how many times you can cycle that money over in the same same time span.
00:08:15
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:15
jamie peacock
But that's not really where our businesses are. Our businesses are in making fancy things.
00:08:22
Curt
yeah Yeah. I mean, thankfully I don't want to, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to have a retail store like that.
00:08:23
jamie peacock
Like...
00:08:27
Curt
I would, that seems, that seems stressful, but I mean, to other people, this world seems stressful.
00:08:27
jamie peacock
No.
00:08:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:08:31
Curt
So it's, yeah.
00:08:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, guess. so um But yeah, anyway, finally implemented cycle 832.
00:08:40
Curt
Ooh, tell me more. Tell me more how it worked out for you.
00:08:41
jamie peacock
Dude, it it is literal magic.
00:08:44
Curt
ah Okay, good.
00:08:44
jamie peacock
Literal magic.
00:08:45
Curt
Okay.
00:08:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no, it's magic. So my roughing cycle is always a bit jittery. And I was getting a bit annoyed with it. And then I outputted a smoothing, like semi-finished cycle. Took notes of what what the machine wanted because i did it in the machine.
00:09:00
jamie peacock
And then I proceeded to output all the cycles so that I could see what it wanted. And then I went and edited my post-processors so that when you put it on automatic, it automatically does it. So now by default, which is interesting because it does a tool change.
00:09:10
Curt
oh go
00:09:14
jamie peacock
And then it waits like a second while it loads in the G832. ah g eight thirty two
00:09:20
Curt
Oh, really?
00:09:20
jamie peacock
Or the Cycle 832. Like, it's a drill tap machine. If you're running at full speed, you notice when it sits still after a tool change for like a second.
00:09:29
Curt
Right.
00:09:29
jamie peacock
But yeah, it has made a world of difference.
00:09:30
Curt
Interesting.
00:09:31
jamie peacock
Like, the machine, yeah, did much, much better. And only took me like two hours to implement with a bunch of if statements because I'm a savage.
00:09:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:40
Curt
Cool. I'll have off to see your post because i I toyed around with putting it on. i just i don't post enough code for me to worry about it right now to put it onto
00:09:46
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.

Exploring Advanced Machining Options

00:09:47
Curt
automatic.
00:09:47
Curt
So I just i drop it in where I need it, but I'd like to see how you implemented it.
00:09:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, so you don't want to see how I implemented it. It's literally the most bodgy bullshit you've ever seen. um But if it's dumb and it works, it's still dumb, but it works.
00:10:00
Curt
that Absolutely. Yeah.
00:10:01
jamie peacock
Yeah. Like, yeah, it functions.
00:10:03
Curt
Because from what I understand, it like it goes and reads your tolerance setting that you have in that certain operation and then posts that.
00:10:08
jamie peacock
Yes. So that operation, so I've got it posted on every operation and then it posts the tolerance value and then the roughing cycle or the finishing cycle or the semi-finish cycle, depending on what it's doing.
00:10:10
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:10:13
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:10:23
Curt
Okay, how does it determine the rough finish?
00:10:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:10:25
Curt
How does it determine that part?
00:10:26
jamie peacock
I don't know because it's not always the, not always what I would choose, but it's good enough.
00:10:31
Curt
Okay.
00:10:33
jamie peacock
I think it's looking at the tolerance. I'm not entirely sure.
00:10:37
Curt
That makes sense, yeah, yeah.
00:10:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, or the type of toolpath would be the other reason I would think to do that.
00:10:39
Curt
Hmm. Right.
00:10:42
jamie peacock
But yeah, I don't know. It works. So yeah, it's quite cool.
00:10:46
Curt
Sick. Cool.
00:10:48
jamie peacock
So yeah, i was roughing stuff and you could feel the difference in the machine.
00:10:52
Curt
Yeah, like i I'm surprised that you, like I can't use my machine without it. So that's that's interesting.
00:10:57
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, no, mine I think my machine's also got a bit, it's a bit heavier than the the xfi
00:10:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:05
jamie peacock
So it's a little less jittery.
00:11:05
Curt
Maybe, yeah.
00:11:06
jamie peacock
And yeah, and like it was noticeable. Like i noticed my roughing passes. I could feel the machine being a little bit vibratey, like just the motion.
00:11:13
Curt
Right.
00:11:15
jamie peacock
And it was battling like at high speed corners stuff, like in the in the adaptive. It would be weird. And now it's smooth.
00:11:21
Curt
Right.
00:11:22
jamie peacock
But it's also now running a comma one of a millimeter tolerance because it's a roughing.
00:11:22
Curt
Cool.
00:11:26
jamie peacock
So it like literally zooms around the corner.
00:11:26
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:30
jamie peacock
So that made a world of difference.
00:11:30
Curt
Oh, it makes everything. Yeah.
00:11:32
jamie peacock
Like I'm super stoked that I got that properly integrated.
00:11:36
Curt
Oh, yeah. And you won't, it doesn't beat up your ball screws and beat up everything like trying to make stupid, stupid moves.
00:11:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, and exactly. like
00:11:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, so yeah it's now on by default. I'll send you the post. You can have a look at it and see my bodgie, the bodgie where did it.
00:11:47
Curt
Sure, I want to... I want...
00:11:50
jamie peacock
ah literally just copied and pasted statement and then got it to put out what I wanted for the three different options.
00:11:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:56
Curt
this is the This is the magic of ah computers just having copious amounts of processing power these days where you can have horrible spaghetti code and it's like, whatever, I'll churn through because I'm running at gigahertz as opposed to back in the day running at like, you know, and just super slow cycles and be like every single, you know, code counts.
00:12:04
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:12:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:14
Curt
But yeah, sloppy code is where it's at.
00:12:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, now we've got... Yeah, no, no. i didn't even yeah I didn't even put into chat tips or anything. literally just figured out what was going on and made the changes I needed to make. Because the, i don't know if you've used the, what's it, Visual Studio Code, there's an add-in for Fusion Posts.
00:12:33
Curt
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
00:12:34
jamie peacock
Dude, it makes it so easy because you generate the dummy code, click on it, and it just jumps you to where it's being generated.
00:12:36
Curt
Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:12:41
jamie peacock
That's so easy.

Technical Challenges: Motor Mount Design

00:12:43
Curt
I know I also have like, I have like purple theme on mine. So it's all like purple and I have all the code.
00:12:48
jamie peacock
Oh, nice.
00:12:48
Curt
Yeah. I love visual code studio. It's my favorite place to hang out for, for editing that kind of junk.
00:12:50
jamie peacock
Yeah. it's really It's really, really good. It makes life super, super easy.
00:12:56
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:58
jamie peacock
I'm actually waiting for a price. I spoke to the guys at WD Hearn about a 4th axis and then also a 5-axis trunnion for my machine.
00:13:05
Curt
Okay.
00:13:11
Curt
Ooh, fancy, fancy.
00:13:13
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, there's a job that I can pick up that 600, 700 parts. six hundred seven hundred ports that require five axes and there is more than enough money in those pots to justify a trunnion so yeah we will see i'm waiting for a price and then i'm gonna go cry in a corner
00:13:23
Curt
Ah, okay.
00:13:28
Curt
Sick. Okay, well, that'd be awesome. Yeah.
00:13:34
jamie peacock
um because it's the price of the trunnion, then it's the the Siemens unlock codes to enable those axes, plus the installation of the drives, plus the installation of the updated PLC and all that crap that goes with it.
00:13:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:47
jamie peacock
So yeah, we will see what what they come back with, and we'll go from there.
00:13:47
Curt
Yep. Yep. Yep.
00:13:51
Curt
Nice.
00:13:52
jamie peacock
But yeah, ah in the interim, I got a fourth axis.
00:13:57
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:13:58
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:13:59
Curt
is this the one Is this the one you're still cobbling?
00:14:01
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, the one that I got in, I literally... Spoke to Dylan on Thursday. They shipped it on Friday. It arrived today. I've already stripped it and had to, yeah, we'll get into the motor.
00:14:13
jamie peacock
Took it apart. I don't think it's run. I honestly do not think they've run production on this thing.
00:14:19
Curt
Really?
00:14:20
jamie peacock
Like, I look at the the worm and the worm wheel and there is no discernible way.
00:14:26
Curt
that's good. That's nice.
00:14:27
jamie peacock
So, yeah, and looking at the wiring, I'm assuming something went wrong there and this thing just sat on a machine.
00:14:34
Curt
perfect. Yeah, perfect then.
00:14:35
jamie peacock
There's still oil in it. The oil's still clean. It's like, yeah. But some idiot took the servo off of it and put it back on with Loctite on the fucking shaft. So the shaft is permanently in the worm.
00:14:48
Curt
Oh, oh, that sucks.
00:14:50
jamie peacock
As in, I cut the motor off of the gearbox today.
00:14:55
Curt
Okay, so it's in there.
00:14:56
jamie peacock
Tried pressing it out, eventually cut it off, and eventually I turned the what was remaining of the shaft down to 14mm so I could put a coupling on it. For my motor.
00:15:05
Curt
Wow, okay, so it's it's in there well, then. It's not going anywhere.
00:15:09
jamie peacock
It's permanently in there. I put in the lathe and turned it and it didn't want to come out. So I turned it down to 14. Ordered a coupling. Coupling arrives tomorrow. ah for After we're done on the podcast, to design a motor mount to mount one of my two motor options. Either 400 watt servo or a 4.5 newton meter stepper.
00:15:25
jamie peacock
I haven't really decided yet.
00:15:28
Curt
Yeah, I guess doesn't.
00:15:29
jamie peacock
Like, it's not going to be part of the closed loop control system. So me... It's going to my own controller, so it kind of doesn't make a difference.
00:15:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:38
jamie peacock
um I just don't know which way I want to go yet.
00:15:41
Curt
does the ah Does the drive itself have like a home signal?
00:15:41
jamie peacock
ah will...
00:15:46
jamie peacock
No.
00:15:47
Curt
Okay.
00:15:47
jamie peacock
Not that I can discern. I did try to read the manual, but I didn't find anything about it because that was my thought as well.
00:15:49
Curt
Okay.
00:15:53
jamie peacock
Home the thing with the servo drive. I'm going to home it with the as part of the controller because there is a home signal on the fourth.
00:15:56
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yep. Yep.
00:16:02
jamie peacock
So my thought was to rapid home and then slowly seek it to try and get as accurate a position as possible. And then I can just always... a indicate a feature on the fixture and then set the zero there.
00:16:17
jamie peacock
Because the controller is all incremental. So you basically put it into 0.1 degree jog, jog, dog jog, jog until it's square. And then you set the increment to what you need for the job. And it will then index 90, 90, 90, 90.
00:16:31
jamie peacock
And that I'm going to tie into M68 on my machine, which is my chip conveyor on and off signal.
00:16:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:38
Curt
Hmm. Okay. Well, even...
00:16:39
jamie peacock
because it's there, I may as well use it. So then I'll just ChipConveyor on, ChipConveyor off, and it'll index.
00:16:45
Curt
Well, and even with the like even with the reduction you have, like even if you just set it to zero and you power it off and you power back on, you probably only have to like spend a minute or two sweeping it.
00:16:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:16:54
Curt
like It'd probably be pretty

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00:16:55
Curt
damn close.
00:16:55
jamie peacock
It's got a brake on it that automatically, and well, it's an air brake that if there's air, it's on, and I'm feeling like it shouldn't move.
00:16:58
Curt
Oh, perfect. Okay.
00:17:05
jamie peacock
If the brake's disabled, like it should be right there.
00:17:06
Curt
Cool,
00:17:07
jamie peacock
So we'll see. like It's going to go in the machine. problem um I'm aiming for tomorrow to have it in the machine because I have a job that requires it, which also took me two hours to not finish programming yesterday because it's actually a five-axis job, but I don't have a five-axis.
00:17:13
Curt
cool, cool, cool.
00:17:26
Curt
Oh, okay, so going to just, like, four axis, then op it after?
00:17:27
jamie peacock
So I'm going to naughty performance it.
00:17:32
Curt
Nice. Okay, cool. Nice.
00:17:34
jamie peacock
Fourth X, is that an angle?
00:17:35
Curt
Just count everything. Yeah.
00:17:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's like an 8.1 degree angle.
00:17:37
Curt
Sick.
00:17:38
jamie peacock
Again, guy needs the samples and then we can come with a more reasonable solution. So I asked for a price on a MediCenter and also on a Trunnion, but we'll see.
00:17:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:49
Curt
Ooh.
00:17:52
jamie peacock
because he wants to get all this work from these guys. I'm not putting any money, while I've put money down already, but I'm not putting any more money down until I have an order in writing and all that crap, because, I'm not going to risk my shit for that. But it would be nice to have a fifth axis, because it also puts me into a very different league here.
00:18:13
Curt
I bet, yeah.
00:18:13
jamie peacock
Because there's not, yeah, there's not that much of that going on, especially on the small parts.
00:18:13
Curt
No, I bet.
00:18:17
jamie peacock
So, yeah, we will see. will see what comes of it.
00:18:21
Curt
i think we I think we all secretly are trying to find reasons to buy 5-axis machines.
00:18:26
jamie peacock
Oh, yes. 100%.
00:18:26
Curt
even if you haven I don't have a single need for a 5-axis, and I'm still like, hmm.
00:18:30
jamie peacock
Yeah. I'm sure you can figure a reason why you need it.
00:18:35
Curt
Oh, I could design a reason in a minute for needing a 5-axis, but yeah.
00:18:37
jamie peacock
Yeah. So that fourth axis I got in today, dude, that thing, yeah. It's been through the wars a little bit, but I need to finish cleaning up tomorrow, dude.
00:18:48
jamie peacock
Seems fine. Like, break works.
00:18:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:51
jamie peacock
No discernible play in the... I'm like, I'm stoked. Looks like it's Japanese.
00:18:54
Curt
Sick.
00:18:55
jamie peacock
There's no nameplates on it. There's no...
00:18:57
Curt
Yeah,
00:18:58
jamie peacock
There's nothing discernible on it. The... I took a picture and Google translated... Google Lens translated the encoder. And it's not Chinese. It's Japanese writing. So that bodes well.
00:19:10
jamie peacock
And looking at the build quality, it looks pretty freaking sweet.
00:19:10
Curt
yeah that's good.
00:19:14
jamie peacock
I need to now figure out what the gear ratio is. because I have no clue, no clue at all.
00:19:14
Curt
Awesome.
00:19:17
Curt
Oh, yeah. That's, yeah.
00:19:20
jamie peacock
So yeah, it's going to be a bit of bit of trial and error there, but I'm sure that shouldn't be too difficult.
00:19:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:24
jamie peacock
so And then getting the inductive to work, the inductive sensor, it's a two-wire inductive sensor, which is a little annoying.
00:19:34
jamie peacock
So you've got to have a resistive load on it to make it work.
00:19:38
Curt
Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think I have a couple of those.
00:19:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, and unfortunately, all of my three-wire ones trigger when they go into the threaded hole.
00:19:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:47
jamie peacock
So I have to use their one if I want to get it running quickly.
00:19:47
Curt
Hmm. Right.
00:19:50
jamie peacock
So I'm just going to be lazy and put a relay on it and let it just switch a relay that switches my signal. It'll be fine.
00:19:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:56
jamie peacock
It'll be accurate enough.
00:19:57
Curt
Yeah. Fair enough.
00:19:58
jamie peacock
lock
00:19:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:00
jamie peacock
It'll be it'll be OK.
00:20:00
Curt
Cool.
00:20:01
jamie peacock
And then you it's interesting. It's pressure sensors and all sorts of shit for the break.
00:20:06
Curt
Hmm.
00:20:06
jamie peacock
Looks like the. brake unclamp sensor failed because it wasn't connected but the other sense is still working the brake on sensor and if the brake on sensor is not on it means the brake is off in theory so we will see this ah some interesting interesting design choices on that that whole unit but we'll get a slap back together tomorrow and then in the machine and make it do the dance and then i'm going to do a pierce-in story
00:20:34
jamie peacock
to lift it off the table with a winch yeah if i can like obviously i guess yeah i'm gonna my machine doesn't have a lid so i'm just gonna put a bar across the top i'll design up a bar go to my mate to have him weld it and then put a winch on the side of the machine that i can just winch it up and then it's out of the way does it doesn't have to come out of the machine because it is a tad on the heavy side now yeah getting it into the workshop today by myself was less than pleasant
00:20:34
Curt
do you mean? Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:20:49
Curt
Hmm.
00:20:55
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:01
Curt
Well, at least you have a monster table, but ah did I hear right that you're going to put it on the left side of the table, like a proper lathe head?
00:21:06
jamie peacock
Yes. Yes, like a weirdo. ah Yeah, because the other side's got all my other stuff on it, so it doesn't actually make a difference.
00:21:10
Curt
yeah
00:21:13
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:21:15
jamie peacock
um So I'm going it on the left-hand side.
00:21:17
Curt
Oh, the internet disagrees with you. The amount of hate mail I got when people see my Kurt with the fourth on the left side, they're like, you you know, you know, force don't go on the left side.
00:21:22
jamie peacock
Oh, that on the left. Oh, cool.
00:21:26
Curt
I'm like, yeah, I know.
00:21:26
jamie peacock
Engagement.
00:21:26
Curt
But I think in lathe.
00:21:27
jamie peacock
Fuck yeah.
00:21:28
Curt
Yeah, I think in lathe.
00:21:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:29
Curt
So it goes on the left. I mean, the style one is on the right because.
00:21:31
jamie peacock
It literally makes no difference.
00:21:32
Curt
ah No, but the internet disagrees with you.
00:21:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's fine.
00:21:36
Curt
You're stupid.
00:21:36
jamie peacock
Incident, I can argue.
00:21:37
Curt
If it goes, it goes on the left.
00:21:39
jamie peacock
Engagement is engagement.
00:21:39
Curt
You're stupid. A hundred percent, dude.
00:21:41
jamie peacock
Like, let the trolls come.
00:21:42
Curt
I've been deba- If I could put my style one on the left, I probably would just for the comments alone. But it's built it's built to go on the right. so
00:21:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's like ah Robert Cohen putting his

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00:21:54
jamie peacock
um is chuck key in his chuck in the background of every video.
00:21:56
Curt
Yep.
00:21:59
jamie peacock
It's the best.
00:21:59
Curt
second
00:22:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, like just trolling people.
00:22:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:02
jamie peacock
It's freaking awesome.
00:22:03
jamie peacock
Oh, speaking of the the YouTube machinist guys, have you seen Toolroom Takeover?
00:22:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:10
Curt
No, I don't think so.
00:22:11
jamie peacock
Ooh, it's a collaboration. You know the Maker Secret Santa?
00:22:15
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's that, but for machinists. It's Christmas in July, except August.
00:22:19
Curt
oh Oh.
00:22:20
jamie peacock
um
00:22:21
Curt
Mm.
00:22:22
jamie peacock
Eric with a K, engineer raised in Kingston.
00:22:22
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:22:24
jamie peacock
He put it all together. It's got Cloud 42, Blondie Hacks, Alex Steele, A bunch of other people. um Not an engineer did one. Yeah, no, really good. Also, inheritance machining.
00:22:38
Curt
I was going to say, didn't and yeah, inherited the machine, because I just saw his puzzle his puzzle cylinder whatever thing.
00:22:38
jamie peacock
So yeah, a bunch like, yeah. He was, yes. So his puzzle went to not an engineer.
00:22:44
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:45
jamie peacock
um
00:22:46
Curt
Cool, OK.
00:22:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, like, a really good. Like a good, probably four hours worth of content.
00:22:52
Curt
Nice, OK, I'll have to check it out.
00:22:52
jamie peacock
If you go around the whole circle. So we went around 95% of the circle. I skipped the second half the Blondie Hacks video. I'm like, I've seen you make a pressure vessel before. It's fine.
00:23:02
jamie peacock
um But yeah, really, really entertaining.
00:23:03
Curt
Yeah,
00:23:06
jamie peacock
And that dropped over the ah the weekend. yeah That came out.
00:23:09
Curt
I kind of got chimed for some of them. So yeah, I'll i'll just check it out.
00:23:11
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, it's a good way to spread the... Like, get you to follow new people. Because, yeah, these crossovers are really interesting.
00:23:24
Curt
Yeah, well and then let's, oh yeah.
00:23:24
jamie peacock
Also, not an engineer made a fourth axis.
00:23:28
Curt
okay We'll have to check all this out now.
00:23:28
jamie peacock
Yes, there'll be a video coming on it in a little while.
00:23:29
Curt
This is, yeah.
00:23:32
Curt
Nice.
00:23:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was pretty sweet.
00:23:34
Curt
Nice, nice.
00:23:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:36
jamie peacock
um Yes.
00:23:37
Curt
I just, but I just got locked into, oh, what is the guy that just left?
00:23:38
jamie peacock
Oh, jeez.
00:23:41
Curt
Um, uh, uh, uh,
00:23:44
jamie peacock
Oh, Linus Tech Tips.
00:23:46
Curt
No, no, no, no.
00:23:48
jamie peacock
No, not him.
00:23:48
Curt
He just left... ah but do you You don't call him. You don't call him Titan. what do you call You keep calling him. I keep forgetting.
00:23:54
jamie peacock
Oh, clockwise.
00:23:55
jamie peacock
Oh, you got Donnie. Donnie's videos.
00:23:55
Curt
Clockwise.
00:23:57
Curt
Donnie, yeah.
00:23:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, you I've been following you.
00:23:58
Curt
his his All his his Swiss videos on like Instagram and stuff like that.
00:24:02
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:04
Curt
Fantastic. They're so good.
00:24:05
jamie peacock
No, they are. They really are good. I'm thoroughly enjoying them.
00:24:07
Curt
Like, yeah, his content is, yeah, his content is just fantastic.
00:24:08
jamie peacock
Been following him since he left.
00:24:12
Curt
It's, yeah, I'm, I like it more than I did when he was with Clockwise, so.
00:24:17
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah. ah On Friday night, hang on, I pointed out the video about Okay, I'm just trying to think how... now Okay, we're going to keep this for the after show because I'm going to throw a bunch of people under the bus.
00:24:29
jamie peacock
Woohoo!
00:24:30
Curt
Ooh, yay.
00:24:30
jamie peacock
Okay, hang on. Let me make a note here. um I don't want to stir too much shit.
00:24:38
Curt
Okay, I'll keep it behind closed doors.
00:24:39
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, no, no, that one will... If you want to see it, you can go get the after show, which you can find on our Patreon, The Lone Machinists.

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00:24:47
jamie peacock
ah But yeah, we're going to keep that one a little bit off the main air.
00:24:51
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:24:54
jamie peacock
Yeah. ah Let's change to our normal topic quickly of books.
00:25:00
Curt
okay. Okay.
00:25:01
jamie peacock
I finished Seven Eves. It should have been two or three books.
00:25:03
Curt
such Yeah, yeah.
00:25:05
jamie peacock
Like, it really should have been two or three books. um
00:25:07
Curt
Absolutely. Mm-hmm,
00:25:08
jamie peacock
I did enjoy, this time actually enjoyed the last third of the book. I think when I read it the first time, I didn't enjoy that much.
00:25:13
Curt
mm-hmm.
00:25:15
jamie peacock
But it feels like it needed more when I got to the end of it.
00:25:20
Curt
Yeah, it's it's hard. it like If I read it, and like maybe this just speaks to my reading comprehension skills, but like if I listen to the last third of that book, it makes sense.
00:25:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:30
Curt
But if i like read it, I just can't. it's like There's so much going on, and it's so weirdly written.
00:25:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:35
Curt
It's nice it's nice to listen to, in my opinion.
00:25:36
jamie peacock
thirty That actually, yeah, no, you're right there, because read it, and battled to comprehend what was going on. And when I listen to it now, I kind of knew where the story was going, um but I feel like the way they ended it, it could have gone for another, like that could have been its own book.
00:25:47
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:25:53
jamie peacock
I don't know if there was a book planned to follow that up,
00:25:53
Curt
yeah
00:25:56
jamie peacock
Because it would have been, yeah, it's been many years.
00:25:57
Curt
It's been, yeah. I have to listen to it again. I haven't, I kind of forget how it, how it wrapped up.
00:26:02
jamie peacock
Okay, yeah, it's really long.
00:26:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:04
jamie peacock
It's like freaking 34 hours long.
00:26:04
Curt
It's, it's so good though.
00:26:06
jamie peacock
um And then I downloaded Artemis yesterday.
00:26:12
Curt
Yeah. I just finished that one again.
00:26:12
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, ah cool, yeah, i've got an hour and a half left.
00:26:16
Curt
Oh, okay, cool. So yeah, you're most way through it.
00:26:17
jamie peacock
I didn't listen to any podcasts today. I listened to Artemis all day while doing what I was doing. But yeah, I ended up having to go to SART today and then to SART again today to try and get the motor apart from my fourth axis.
00:26:23
Curt
I dig it.
00:26:30
jamie peacock
Put it in a 20-ton press.
00:26:31
Curt
Cool.
00:26:32
jamie peacock
It didn't want to come apart because there, well, there was a retainer. um But yeah, anyway, got it apart enough with a hacksaw and a hammer.
00:26:40
Curt
Nice.
00:26:42
jamie peacock
My job. Yeah, fun times.
00:26:42
Curt
Sick.
00:26:44
jamie peacock
um Yeah, also I got my new monitor set up. It's Magic.
00:26:49
Curt
That's a nice big widescreen.
00:26:49
jamie peacock
i think I think I mentioned I got one. I hadn't used it yet. um
00:26:53
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:26:54
jamie peacock
I reconfigured my desk a bit so and I could actually use it. I'm now down to a single monitor in the workshop because it's big enough that I can just don't two windows and still use them.
00:26:59
Curt
Ooh.
00:27:03
jamie peacock
Also, wife's make fun of me if she hears this.
00:27:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:07
jamie peacock
I'm a CAD god. I modeled a thing with a trackpad today.
00:27:11
Curt
Oh, what kind of trackpad? Just the like the little touch one?
00:27:14
jamie peacock
The one on the laptop, was at a customer and they were using their mouse.
00:27:16
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:17
jamie peacock
So i just literally modeled it with a trackpad on their second computer quickly because they're trying to figure out a projected geometry to wire cut.
00:27:20
Curt
o
00:27:24
Curt
Oh. Oh, you'll have to collect your badge. Yeah.
00:27:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, we know I'm good at CAD because of the IMTS CAD challenge.
00:27:34
Curt
I want to see someone do some CAD with those, ah what are they called, like those little like the little nipple mouse in the middle of the keyboard?
00:27:40
jamie peacock
Oh, jeez.
00:27:41
Curt
old Those little pips that you just like put your finger on and just...
00:27:42
jamie peacock
um but yeah
00:27:44
Curt
Yeah, do some CAD with that.
00:27:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, that would be pretty impressive.
00:27:46
Curt
and then Actually, you know what?
00:27:46
jamie peacock
Like, that would be really, really impressive. Oh, yes.
00:27:49
Curt
Honestly, I didn't and didn't mind those mice.
00:27:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:51
Curt
I found those ones pretty decent.
00:27:52
jamie peacock
No, they... They are... They're not horrible. My old laptop had one. Did your shirts arrive?
00:27:56
Curt
Yeah, yeah. I just checked the mail today. Nothing yet, so...
00:28:00
jamie peacock
Okay, no, not yet. Okay. Speaking of shirts, I've been told to punt the shirts because end of the month they change again. So...
00:28:07
Curt
Ooh. oo
00:28:08
jamie peacock
I think it's the end of the month. Yeah, anyway, ah go check out the shirts on theloanmachinists.com. There's a link through to the merch store and there's a bunch of fancy shirts that Danica makes. There are a couple coming that are glossy as hell.
00:28:20
jamie peacock
So yeah, these ones will go off the store and the new ones will be will be coming in. um Currently, there's the FaceMill shirt. There's the ChipFans shirt. There's something else as well.
00:28:31
jamie peacock
But yeah, there's some really, really good ones coming down the pipeline. So

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00:28:36
jamie peacock
keep an out for those.
00:28:36
Curt
Nice.
00:28:39
jamie peacock
Um, yes sir oh okay yeah, okay, you're resin printing?
00:28:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:48
Curt
Yeah. those That was those resin prints for those little mechanism parts. um
00:28:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:52
Curt
And I was, like I said, I built about, i don't know, 10 or so of them and assembled them. And they were just all over the show. Like, I shouldn't say all over the show. It was like, the tolerance I'm shooting for is like, I'd like to hold about a thou because they're clamped together. so
00:29:05
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:06
Curt
it it's kind of like a weird bolt mechanism that clamps it together so if they're out of throughout a spec everything goes out of spec in there i have to like hand tune each one of them and they were just a nightmare to put together uh so what i did is i machine those soft jaws and then i print them big on all the tolerances like 10 thou on all the tolerances that are critical and then i put them in the cnc and just machined all the like features that need to be dead on and now they're coming off like about
00:29:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:29
Curt
within within about a thou tolerance, which is perfect. So I made a gang of them and I'm going assemble them.
00:29:32
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:29:35
Curt
And someone's been hounding me to... like Every time I pick up that little mechanism, it like it clicks, it spins, like it slides. The one thing it doesn't do is it doesn't spin. like it It should spin.
00:29:46
jamie peacock
Oh yeah, like a fidget spinner, yeah.
00:29:47
Curt
It's Yeah, you're holding it and you're like, I want this to spin as well. Like it should spin. So I think I found a way to hide a couple of bearings inside the central core um where i can make I can make it spin as well.
00:29:56
jamie peacock
Oh wow, okay.
00:29:58
Curt
So it'll do everything. And then then I will have feature creeped it to the point where I can't feature creep it anymore. So ah yeah, I think I'm going to toy with that ah sometime this week as well.
00:30:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:06
Curt
And then i think once I get it spinning, then I can then i can sell them. Because I've just been like just bleeding money on that little project.
00:30:09
jamie peacock
Okay, nice. Adding...
00:30:13
Curt
But that's okay.
00:30:14
jamie peacock
Yeah. Just keep adding features to it.
00:30:17
Curt
Just keep it. And yeah it's problems. I have a few of them out in the wild. Just I gave them away and like one was like a raffle or something.
00:30:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:22
Curt
And so ah actually one gentleman has been giving me a lot of feedback, which is nice. He's been using the crap out of it. And but every few days he has something to report back, which is lovely. And I appreciate a ton. um But he's like, yeah, this has to spin. I'm like, no, I agree with you.
00:30:36
Curt
I agree.
00:30:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, and yeah no
00:30:36
Curt
It's a nightmare to make it do that, but I agree with you.
00:30:41
jamie peacock
I get that.
00:30:43
jamie peacock
But yeah, I found the knife guy yesterday.
00:30:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:30:44
Curt
Mm hmm.
00:30:46
jamie peacock
You're still talking about making screws. So I need to get my hands on a rotary brooch, but working on not being poor first. Then we'll deal with rotary brooches.
00:30:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:30:56
jamie peacock
I need to actually chase down customers this week.
00:30:56
Curt
Yeah, actually
00:31:00
Curt
for that stupid click mechanism I'm working on, um I need a rotary brooch as well. I think I can design it around. I think I can just machine an oval instead of a hex. But I was thinking about you and I was looking at that. i was like, oh, rotary brooch.
00:31:11
Curt
Stupid rotary brooch.
00:31:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, come to the dark side. They're cheap. Like $100. And
00:31:14
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know. We'll see.
00:31:17
jamie peacock
and then the brooch is another like $50.
00:31:21
Curt
Yeah, yeah, they get, yeah, we'll see.
00:31:22
jamie peacock
like It starts to add up very, very quickly. I'm like, yeah, I don't really want to do this on my own dime. So ah yeah we're going to be getting a nice order from him.
00:31:29
Curt
Yeah, I just...
00:31:33
jamie peacock
In the next month or so. For another 50 sets of file guards.
00:31:36
Curt
Cool.
00:31:38
jamie peacock
So. I'll just take some of that money.
00:31:39
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:31:40
jamie peacock
And buy the stuff. He also wants me to make decorative anvils.
00:31:43
Curt
Cool, cool, cool.
00:31:46
Curt
Oh, right, you were saying that, little ah like a little aluminum ones?
00:31:47
jamie peacock
Out of aluminium. Like fuck's sakes.
00:31:48
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:31:49
jamie peacock
Yeah. So fourth axis.
00:31:52
Curt
Yeah, that'd be easy. how You could want to done them.
00:31:53
jamie peacock
Yeah. Put them on the fourth.
00:31:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:31:54
jamie peacock
It's going to be much much easier. To put them on the fourth. So yeah.
00:31:58
Curt
Cool.
00:31:58
jamie peacock
The fourth is. The fourth is changing the way I think about. Most of the things I do now.
00:32:04
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:06
jamie peacock
Even just as an indexing unit, it's freaking great. So yeah, we'll see. We'll get that together tomorrow and have it start doing the fancy things. And then if I do get 5-axis trunnion, I've got someone who'll buy this one off me.
00:32:20
Curt
Oh, nice. Okay, well, that works so
00:32:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, he wants a 4-axis indexer because then he doesn't have to send me a bunch of random shit. Because that's the problem is get all this stupid work.
00:32:28
Curt
Okay, cool. Well, that helps.
00:32:30
jamie peacock
Like, all the stupid work just gets sent to me and it's a little annoying.
00:32:36
Curt
ah That's cool. That's cool.
00:32:37
jamie peacock
ah do And then looking through the...
00:32:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:41
jamie peacock
Oh, yes. I got pricing on the Tribos extensions.
00:32:45
Curt
Yes. What did that come at?
00:32:52
jamie peacock
for five extensions.
00:32:54
Curt
o That's up there. That's up there.
00:32:56
jamie peacock
with the no that's with the clampymatron to uh to squish them with the their little units so it's uh the option i was looking at was one six one three and four uh four four millimeter extensions and that would basically cover my full gambit so i'm gonna beat doors down tomorrow for money so that i can afford to order that because i have to order it by i think tomorrow that's when the deal ends on the on that kit
00:33:00
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:33:03
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:33:11
Curt
Okay.
00:33:18
Curt
Okay, yeah, well, that's that's not bad. than if i thought it was, yeah.
00:33:24
Curt
Mm.
00:33:25
jamie peacock
and it's like, it's a lot of money to spend on a thing I don't really freaking need, but it's so cool, so yeah, I'll see, I might just be an irresponsible adult and buy one, um, yeah, because then I can throw that into my hydraulic, and touch it off, and yeah, know I'm good to go, the run out will literally be like three microns, if that, yeah, it's kind of, kind of cool looking, but anyway, yeah, got pricing on that, because I know we were discussing that, um,
00:33:26
Curt
Mm.
00:33:47
Curt
That's sick. Yeah, that's nice.
00:33:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:56
jamie peacock
And then, oh, there is a deal on the remaining batch one anchor points.

Manufacturing and Commercialization

00:34:02
Curt
Ooh, the sparkly purple. Ooh.
00:34:04
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, the old purple um from batch one. There's four units left and they have a special price. if you go to the website, you can find out about that.
00:34:15
jamie peacock
And if lots of people buy them, someone's getting a not batch one because there's only four of them available and there's no way to limit that. So...
00:34:22
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:34:23
jamie peacock
If I wake up in the morning with eight orders, it's going to be a bit of a problem. But we'll deal with that in the morning.
00:34:30
Curt
Yeah, and exactly.
00:34:30
jamie peacock
So that yeah, future Jamie's problem.
00:34:30
Curt
That's future Jamie's problem. and
00:34:33
jamie peacock
And yeah, oh well. ah So yeah, the chance is now to pick up Anchor Point Batch 1 with a bit of a discount. Quite a bit of a discount, actually.
00:34:41
Curt
Sick.
00:34:42
jamie peacock
But I want to get them off my shelf. Also, tariffs are in effect as of tomorrow.
00:34:49
Curt
Oh, really? haven't really...
00:34:49
jamie peacock
From us, yeah. The minimis disappears as of tomorrow for shipping out of South Africa.
00:34:55
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:34:57
jamie peacock
Has to be in the warehouse by the 19th, and that is tomorrow. So sorry, guys. You now get to pay 30% extra for everything because that's how it works.
00:35:06
jamie peacock
Kurt said it correctly.
00:35:06
Curt
That's the, yeah. yeah
00:35:08
jamie peacock
That's how the world works.
00:35:09
Curt
That's whatever is what it is.
00:35:09
jamie peacock
Like, yeah. I was thinking of adding a shipping option that will pay your your thing, but your shipping goes from $70 like $700. um
00:35:20
Curt
yeah it's a tough pill swallow.
00:35:20
jamie peacock
like i can get it I can get a calculation out of my shipping agent on exactly what the ship what the tariffs I can pay them on this side. And it's not it's not insignificant. So I might just look at that and say, we'll pay the tariffs.
00:35:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:34
jamie peacock
This is the shipping price. Otherwise, not my problem. Just to make it a bit a bit easier and a bit more straightforward. But I'll chat to Danica about that tomorrow.
00:35:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:43
jamie peacock
And I think maybe we implement that. And just it is what it is.
00:35:48
Curt
yeah Yeah.
00:35:49
jamie peacock
ah jo Oh, so on the on the fourth axis topic, because that's apparently all I can talk about these days, I was looking for a fourth axis controller dr from China, just like an industrial thing, single axis controller.
00:35:49
Curt
Rough.
00:36:02
Curt
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
00:36:02
jamie peacock
They exist. There are lots of them.
00:36:06
jamie peacock
Getting on here in the timeframe I needed, not really an option. Came across electronic lead screws.
00:36:06
Curt
Okay.
00:36:13
Curt
Hmm, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll play.
00:36:14
jamie peacock
Basically, direct knockoff of Cloud 42's thing.
00:36:18
Curt
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:18
jamie peacock
Like exact, well, not exact, but yeah, super similar, same number of buttons, obviously a different enclosure.
00:36:20
Curt
Oh, really?
00:36:24
jamie peacock
But yeah, like direct knockables. Like, oh, interesting. Because when you go looking for these weird things, you find them.
00:36:27
Curt
Huh. Yeah.
00:36:30
jamie peacock
And if it's a good idea, China's copying it.
00:36:30
Curt
No, totally, yeah. Yeah, no, rightfully so.
00:36:33
jamie peacock
but I mean, you did ah you did an electronic lead screw as well back in the day.
00:36:37
Curt
Yeah, they're not hard. and Like, encoder, stepper, done.
00:36:38
jamie peacock
No, it's really not.
00:36:40
Curt
Like, little bit of math. It's not difficult.
00:36:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's not hard, but to do it...
00:36:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:46
jamie peacock
To do it for yourself is easy. To do it as a product is not.
00:36:50
Curt
No doubt. Yeah, And Cloud 42, like, yeah.
00:36:50
jamie peacock
Because products go to stupid people. Like...
00:36:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:54
jamie peacock
So yeah, he did a banger job on that.
00:36:55
Curt
Well, and yeah, like,
00:36:57
Curt
He did, yeah. And it's as like said, the user interface is good and he made it so that you can, yeah, it's it was it was built smartly.
00:36:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:37:03
Curt
So if if it would have existed when I wanted to build mine, yeah, I would have just bought his because I like, I probably spent much more than his he would have cost to you know just sell me them something that worked.
00:37:03
jamie peacock
Yeah. And he did a lot of testing.
00:37:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:37:12
Curt
So yeah.
00:37:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, I remember you. Didn't you go full CNC on that little machine?
00:37:18
Curt
um Yeah, yeah, I'd yeah had'd seen Sion.
00:37:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, you did, okay.
00:37:20
Curt
yeah it was Yeah, it worked.
00:37:21
jamie peacock
On both axes.
00:37:23
Curt
it Yeah, it was cute.
00:37:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah, your moats are on the back of your cross slide.
00:37:27
Curt
yeah Yeah, it had like 8 thou lash or something, so I would just always come back and then approach from the same angle.
00:37:27
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:37:33
Curt
But it made...
00:37:33
jamie peacock
Oh, jeez.
00:37:35
Curt
I don't know. don't have any pens I made on it. A lot, so it worked.
00:37:37
jamie peacock
Yeah. No. Yeah, it worked.
00:37:41
Curt
Exactly. I kind of want to...
00:37:42
jamie peacock
You know, and...
00:37:44
Curt
I kind of want to put a like a digital lead screw on my big manual lathe just because like you get so much more, like there's so many times where i'm like, yeah, like I want to like, it doesn't feed slow enough.
00:37:50
jamie peacock
options yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:37:53
Curt
Like I want to feed crazy slow for certain things. And it just, I can't go below a certain chip, which makes sense. Like your, your insert isn't going to handle it. Um, But sometimes I just, I want to just go slower than it.
00:38:04
Curt
Or like there's enough dials and stuff. Like it's got a full gearbox. I deliberately bought one with a gearbox. I didn't have to change gears all time. And it's still, still like, eh, it's annoying. I'd like rather just have go like boop, boop, boop, boop.
00:38:14
jamie peacock
you want a little more slow yeah I don't know if he still sells them
00:38:16
Curt
Yeah. Or just be able to like, yeah.
00:38:21
Curt
I don't know. but I mean, there's a lot. I'd have to like crack open the back and then put a big servo on the the lead screw. And it's like, ah sometimes I do do like just having the manual aspect of like, I get on this machine and it's just like, it's manual.
00:38:31
jamie peacock
It just works.
00:38:31
Curt
It's kind of, yeah, it's kind of nice for that too.
00:38:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:38:33
Curt
So i'm like, we'll see. We'll see.
00:38:36
jamie peacock
I'm very curious. I just I just went to the to the cloud 42 website. And there's an extra dual extruder that I've never seen before. Yeah.
00:38:51
jamie peacock
Very interesting. Not what I'm here to look for. But very interesting shop. That's what I'm looking for. um It looks like he sells the PCB for the guys out of stock.

Enhancing Machine Efficiency

00:39:08
jamie peacock
The electronic lead screw interface PCB. I think he's he might have stopped doing them.
00:39:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:17
Curt
Yeah, well, that makes sense.
00:39:17
jamie peacock
Interesting. He sells hobbed bolts, or he sold hobbed bolts.
00:39:20
Curt
don't
00:39:22
jamie peacock
Anyway, let's stop internetting and get back to the podcast.
00:39:26
Curt
Googling on a podcast.
00:39:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's always the best. Come on. It's almost as good as singing on a podcast.
00:39:32
Curt
So how did you chop 70 seconds off of 120 second cycle? Okay.
00:39:37
jamie peacock
um With a very, very custom boring bar. and an appropriately sized drill bit.
00:39:43
Curt
ah okay
00:39:45
jamie peacock
So I was boring these things. They didn't need to be bored. I was just trying to hold a decent tolerance and I was drilling oversize. So, I'm drilling oversize, just buy a smaller drill. So I bought a smaller drill, bought a brand new reducer bush for the lathe, drilled it bigger to fit the drill.
00:40:00
jamie peacock
So I bought an 8, put an 8.4, put it in the lathe chuck, drilled it open.
00:40:01
Curt
Oh,
00:40:06
jamie peacock
um And then I bought 12mm single flute or in or arm it RMMT8 insert, of ah button insert.
00:40:19
Curt
nice. Okay.
00:40:20
jamie peacock
face yeah Mill, index mill. And then clocked it, milled a flat and made it into boring bar. So now I drill the hole and I just come in and feed in and go sideways.
00:40:30
Curt
so nice okay
00:40:33
jamie peacock
And that's it, profile done. an eight ra It's a four radius that I need anyway.
00:40:35
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:40:37
jamie peacock
so And then I need to order another one of those because we had a minor issue. And I'm going to order a... 20mm left hand grooving tool that I can keep the entire thing within like 120mm of travel of the machine instead of 300mm of travel.
00:40:56
jamie peacock
So I can cut a whole lot of cycle, some more cycle time off of the cycle and try to get it down to like 40 seconds per part, including feeding.
00:41:03
Curt
nice
00:41:04
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, push down throughput right through the roof because we've got another 1,000 Torx bits. We've got the order today for another 1,000 Torx bits. So...
00:41:12
Curt
OK, those are monster time differences then.
00:41:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, it's huge.
00:41:16
Curt
Like shaving seconds. Yeah.
00:41:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:18
jamie peacock
No, like we've literally shaved a minute per part already.
00:41:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:21
jamie peacock
And then I'm making new fixtures that'll go on to anchor points.
00:41:21
Curt
Nice.
00:41:25
jamie peacock
So I've got eight pieces of material in today so that I can run two sets of fixtures across four anchor points in my machine.
00:41:33
Curt
Sick.
00:41:34
jamie peacock
Because that is now happening.
00:41:34
Curt
Cool.
00:41:36
jamie peacock
um Yeah, like the issue with the fourth axis is I need to be able to use the whole span of my machine. for the tuftal job.
00:41:47
jamie peacock
So I've got to put the little crane doodad so that I can get that out of them out of the way easily enough.
00:41:48
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:41:53
jamie peacock
And then I might just wrap it in a frickin plastic bag so it doesn't get dirty. Because tuftal is horrible stuff. So I'm putting in another two anchor points. I've got the material for another mooring point. I need to make that.
00:42:04
jamie peacock
And then i will machine them coplanar, put four anchor points, make a pallet for my vases, and then I can basically hot swap 400 millimeters on my table, have my fourth axis, and then take that off, drop on the fixture for the for the vacuum chuck, and just have a ah steady that bolts in.
00:42:28
Curt
Hmm, nice.
00:42:29
jamie peacock
Also, don't know if you saw the the job I did over the weekend. I'm sure I posted about it.
00:42:36
Curt
Uh...
00:42:36
jamie peacock
Anyway, I put in basically blank. It's a 4.25-inch blank pallet that's 50 millimeters thick. So I put two of those blank pallets in, probed the top of my vase, and then machined off the top of the pallet so they coplanar, so that I could put the big thing in and it's coplanar, and then clamps on the vases.
00:42:52
Curt
Oh, smart.
00:42:57
jamie peacock
And yeah, this weekend that machine cranked.
00:42:58
Curt
Smart.
00:43:00
jamie peacock
I beat spindle uptime on Sunday.
00:43:04
Curt
Wow.
00:43:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, you can't get better than that because the machine takes a few minutes to turn on.
00:43:05
Curt
but That's impressive.
00:43:09
jamie peacock
And it's counting that as not running time.

Appreciating Supporters and Community

00:43:12
jamie peacock
It's really frustrating. Yeah, we woke I ah turned the machine on, did a warm-up cycle, bolted the fixture together, slapped it and probed it, started the roughing.
00:43:24
jamie peacock
That took two hours to rough, and oh my word, it was loud, because it's a two-flute 18mm insert mill. So that thing freaking sings, sticking out 100 mils.
00:43:32
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:43:34
jamie peacock
It sings.
00:43:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:36
jamie peacock
Got the roughing done, and then we took ah put it on to do the finishing and took the dogs for a walk. Came back six hours later when it was done.
00:43:44
Curt
Cool.
00:43:44
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, machine had crazy uptime, which was great.
00:43:45
Curt
That's nice.
00:43:47
jamie peacock
Like, I got to go spend time with my doggos and go have lunch with some friends and then your came back. Machine was still running for like another two hours. But yeah, both Saturday and Sunday had like long, like really good 97% spindle uptimes.
00:43:56
Curt
That's awesome.
00:44:02
Curt
That's awesome. Actually, it's, ah
00:44:03
jamie peacock
But now, unfortunately, have to sand the mold now.
00:44:07
Curt
uh, Oh, Hey,
00:44:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, because I had to make, so i bought an extension. I wanted a C10, so 10mm OD for a 3mm NMIL, but the NMILs I bought had a 4mm shank, so the guy is like, hey, hang on, this is a 4mm shank, you're buying a 3mm extension, do you want me to change it for the 4mm? And we got change it for the 4mm, but it's a C16, it's a 16 OD.
00:44:30
jamie peacock
So I spent Friday night simulating again and again, adjusting tool stick out, tip width, all that stuff until it was clear.
00:44:30
Curt
Okay.
00:44:38
jamie peacock
cut the bar a bit shorter, put it in the M-Cone, and then turned a taper onto to the front of it so that it would clear the job by like half a millimeter.
00:44:44
Curt
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:44:46
jamie peacock
So yeah, but unfortunately it's sticking out 100 millimeters, so not the greatest surface finish ever on a 4 millimeter end mill at 100 mils extension.
00:44:57
Curt
be Yeah, it's up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, like it was sticking out of the holder by like 40 millimeters on a 50 millimeter tool.
00:45:04
Curt
oof Yeah.
00:45:05
jamie peacock
So, yeah, it was running pretty true, but, yeah, it finished the job.
00:45:05
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:10
jamie peacock
Let's put that way. The job is done. Now I get to sand it. And, yeah, some of the features on this thing, yeah, god awful.
00:45:13
Curt
ah
00:45:16
jamie peacock
But, anyway, it's now done, and then the next tufted parts are coming in, so I get to make my machine messy again, although this time I'm going to cut cycle time like it's going out of fashion.
00:45:21
Curt
yeah
00:45:26
jamie peacock
I spoke to them about surface finishes, and they're like, nope, don't care, don't care, don't care. I'm sweet, that's what I want to hear.
00:45:31
Curt
Right. ah You were saying you were going to like plunge mill a bunch of stuff?
00:45:31
jamie peacock
So... Yeah.
00:45:34
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:34
jamie peacock
Parallel finish everything. Like, take two mils and just, like, ram it off of the pot.
00:45:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:40
jamie peacock
So that should be should be lots of fun.
00:45:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:43
jamie peacock
Before we get too carried away, we need to thank our Patreons.
00:45:47
Curt
Ooh.
00:45:47
jamie peacock
ah pat Yeah, the Patreons on the podcast make the wheels of the podcast go round and round. um Thank you to all of our Patreons who support us over there. ah They are multiple tiers. And the ones who are getting a shout out today because they're in the top tier is Jade from Benchmark20, Luke from Fabtastic, Subtract Manufacturing, and EJ from Nocturnal Welding.
00:46:08
jamie peacock
Thank you to them and all the other guys who support us over there and make the wheels on the podcast go round and round.

Humorous Anecdotes and Observations

00:46:15
jamie peacock
um Yeah, you can check it out. the after show in which certain members of the machining community are going to get badmouthed is available on Patreon. It is also available as a one-time purchase. If you really want to see what but we get up to, I was told to keep Mushinanigans 2 off for the first 30 seconds because the first 30 seconds are free over there.
00:46:15
Curt
Yeah, no, thank you.
00:46:34
jamie peacock
So...
00:46:35
Curt
Ooh, okay good to know.
00:46:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I need to watch what I say in the first 30 seconds of these aftershows. But yeah, you can check us out there. And you can also, if there's any funny words I use, you can check those out on theloanemachinist.com. There is a companion guide, which we realized is missing word today.
00:46:52
jamie peacock
It's an Afrikaans word that I misuse, dexel, which is Afrikaans for lid, except I use it to describe a hat or a helmet or basically anything on my head is a dexel.
00:46:53
Curt
Oh, what's that?
00:46:56
Curt
Oh.
00:47:06
Curt
You guys have a totally different language.
00:47:06
jamie peacock
yeah, Danica.
00:47:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:08
jamie peacock
I know it's a totally different language. Like people speak and was like, get the Dexel. And they look me like, what the, what are you on about? Like I get the Dexel. It's like my name is JF. Same kind of story.
00:47:21
jamie peacock
But yeah, we have, we have lots of fun here. Like languages are ah great fun.
00:47:25
jamie peacock
um yeah we went and watched uh yeah saturday night so lk was running and then we went to watch the rugby where like a cocky dickhead we were doing really well 15 minutes i'm like yo can you imagine watching it if our team sucked and then our team proceeded to suck for the rest of the fucking match like they were like look here's the trial line come put the ball here friends like it was infuriating to watch but yeah it was fun went up to the to the very far away pizza place
00:47:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:26
Curt
Nice.
00:47:42
Curt
nice
00:47:55
jamie peacock
Mostly because the dude there phoned He's like, hey, can you help me set up my Wi-Fi extender?
00:47:56
Curt
so like Oh, okay.
00:47:59
jamie peacock
So I went up there. I'm pretty sure he bought a power supply with a green light.
00:48:05
jamie peacock
I'm fairly certain there is nothing in that Wi-Fi extender. I plugged it in.
00:48:09
jamie peacock
Couldn't get it to connect to the laptop. Couldn't get it. Wouldn't show up as a network. So came back. I grabbed my old one. Went there. Configured it. Sorted out. So yeah, I'm pretty sure he just bought a power supply with an LED.
00:48:09
Curt
I see what you mean.
00:48:17
Curt
Nice.
00:48:19
jamie peacock
Like a little housing power supply and an LED.
00:48:22
Curt
Nice.
00:48:22
jamie peacock
because he bought it from the china shop like so pretty sure that he got ripped off
00:48:23
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh, like all those people back in the day would buy like, well, not back in the day, they probably still exist, buying like 5G protection devices or whatever.
00:48:33
jamie peacock
oh hippie crap yes yeah yeah no like dude taking advantage of stupid people is fun
00:48:33
Curt
And it's just saying like plug it into the wall and it's just five volts. Yeah, five volts supply and an LED and maybe a fan to make some weird noises. It's like, oh, I should have got on that gravy train. Yeah.
00:48:46
Curt
Yeah. Hey, Darwin, right? Like, I'm sorry.
00:48:48
jamie peacock
Dude, 100%.
00:48:49
Curt
This is just how the world works.
00:48:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, 100%.
00:48:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:51
jamie peacock
Oh, don't know if you saw.
00:48:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:55
jamie peacock
Wait a minute, I post those. posted somewhere that I designed new pallets.
00:49:00
Curt
Is it the round ones or?
00:49:00
jamie peacock
The super glue pallets. I think we might have mentioned the super glue pallets that I designed.
00:49:03
Curt
Yeah, you you mentioned it. Yeah.
00:49:05
jamie peacock
Okay, I know. That was last week then. Okay. I can't remember. All the weeks blend together.
00:49:08
Curt
Cool.
00:49:09
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:49:10
Curt
I know. i know. Weeks don't even last long. Like it seems like I'm talking to you all the time and it's like, well, it's every week. And just, it's a nice reminder to be like, time is progressing.
00:49:15
jamie peacock
yeah
00:49:18
Curt
You were getting closer to the to the day you die.
00:49:20
jamie peacock
Yep, you're getting closer to the hole in the ground.
00:49:20
Curt
Like can it go.
00:49:23
jamie peacock
Dude, I saw a thing today.
00:49:23
Curt
Exactly. Yeah.
00:49:26
jamie peacock
What was it? oh It was something to the effect of what to do with me when I die. Scatter me along my favorite trail, number one.
00:49:39
jamie peacock
Number two, don't cremate me. As in throw body parts on the trail. I'm like, that's brilliant. hu Oh yeah, yeah that that's figured properly funny.
00:49:49
Curt
Nice.
00:49:51
jamie peacock
But yeah, my Instagram's been ah full of interesting things. I've been sending you the medieval shirts.
00:49:56
Curt
i like those. Some of them. Yeah, they're pretty heinous.
00:49:58
jamie peacock
Sriracha.
00:50:00
Curt
They're so tame, but they're so awesome. Yeah.
00:50:02
jamie peacock
Yeah. ah za yeah but Danica's got, oh, we've got a DFM shirt coming.
00:50:09
Curt
Okay.
00:50:10
jamie peacock
DFM, which I assume you know what that means.
00:50:13
Curt
yeah Of course. Yeah. I think anybody in this field does.
00:50:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, designed for manufacturing.
00:50:15
Curt
Yeah. Of course.
00:50:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, not my shirt.
00:50:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:19
Curt
yeah
00:50:19
jamie peacock
My shirt is going to be DFM, like, down the side, and then next shirt, what the letter stands for.
00:50:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:26
jamie peacock
ah Don't fucking make it impossible.
00:50:32
jamie peacock
Got that from the... um not an engineer from his his video because he was talking about designing things like don't make it fucking impossible and i'm like yes
00:50:38
Curt
Nice.

Current Projects and Financial Strategies

00:50:42
Curt
ah
00:50:42
jamie peacock
i need that shirt in my life so that's one of the ones that dadic is busy cooking up there's a couple there's a couple other ones that we will be we'll be putting out should be quite fun but yeah so what did you super cook on your purple and was showing off your anodizing today by the way to the knife guy
00:50:45
Curt
her
00:50:53
Curt
so cool cool cool
00:51:00
Curt
oh thank you oh thank you oh yeah it's mm-hmm
00:51:01
jamie peacock
was like, no, and tropic titanium. He's like, ooh, because he wants to make titanium screws so the guys can polish them and anodize them because there's not many guys doing titanium screws locally.
00:51:13
jamie peacock
So he wants to get on that.
00:51:14
Curt
cool yeah oh it's awesome it is pretty it is it is eye-catching for sure yeah um yeah well i've cried a lot like i've done and hundreds and hundreds of hours fucking with it so you get you just naturally get better at something pissing around with it i'm still never like i'm still i still failures every single time i do it but yeah i mean
00:51:16
jamie peacock
And I was like check this shit out. so Yeah. It's very pretty. Yeah. And you seem to have it pretty dialed at this point.
00:51:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:31
jamie peacock
yeah
00:51:36
jamie peacock
Oh yeah, it is a bit of an interesting process.
00:51:39
Curt
It's so tedious. Like there's so many little, little things that can go awry, but, um, but no, the the purple I did, that was a fun one.
00:51:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:45
Curt
So that was actually the pen. It was a blem and I polished it to make it like all silver surfer looking.
00:51:50
jamie peacock
Oh, dude.
00:51:51
Curt
And it was it was so pretty.
00:51:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's beautiful.
00:51:53
Curt
And then was like, OK, the high polish purple, I'm anodize it. Or a high polish, I'm going anodize purple. going to give it to my sister. That was the plan, because was a blem. And I just give blems away, because I don't want to and don't want them to go into the wild and then get resold.
00:52:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:04
Curt
And someone complains. and anyways, I give them away. um And ah the purple turned out heinous. I think that the polishing got deep into like into the titanium. And I just couldn't clean it well enough to ever get an anodize on it.
00:52:15
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:52:16
Curt
um I cleaned it like seven ways to Sunday. I mean, like, and like ultrasonic, high temperatures, the literal polishing compound.
00:52:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. that That's your literal polishing compound that got embedded in it.
00:52:24
Curt
Yeah. It's only one thing I can think of.
00:52:25
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:52:26
Curt
It's only thing i think of.
00:52:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:27
Curt
And then once I anodized it once and you kind of get splotches on it, it seems like that gets deep into the surface. And even like I took it out. i was like, Hey, F this, what I'll do is I'll blast it.
00:52:37
Curt
and then I'll anodize it purple.
00:52:38
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:38
Curt
So blasted it all. um well first i repolished it then i blasted it then re-anodized it and the exact same spots came to the exact same so places so i'm like something is in the titanium and it's pissing it off and i can't i don't know what what formulations of chemicals i need to get it back out um so i rinse and repeated this like a few times and then i'm like you know what i'm just gonna etch the living piss out of it um because i'm like i know this will work um so i etched it a whole bunch um
00:52:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:02
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:05
Curt
Which you ends up building like almost like a matte kind of finish on it. And then when you anodize it, A, it's been etched so long that the material is just ready to pick up, you know, new oxide layer.
00:53:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:15
jamie peacock
Darks are still.
00:53:16
Curt
um And you get just a stupid vibrant. So I did it in purple. The purple is crazy. I don't know if I'd actually ever do this for somebody else because...
00:53:22
jamie peacock
look beautiful
00:53:23
Curt
Well, yeah, you put it in your pocket and like drop a penny in beside it and it's going to scratch. Like it's just, it's so such a matte finish, just like a matte anything.
00:53:28
jamie peacock
yeah okay yeah instantly yeah no it looked freaking beautiful yeah like yeah it looked really really good yeah
00:53:31
Curt
Like it's going to show wear crazy fast, but man, is it vibrant? Yeah, it looks pretty. It looks pretty. yeah, thanks, man. Thank you. Yeah. It looks like paint. i Like it's the closest you can get to paint.
00:53:43
Curt
Um,
00:53:45
Curt
I got a lot of comments on that, so I'm i'm glad people like it. im Maybe I'll do some, but it just like has to come with the caveat of, like, this is going to scratch. like You're going to get like little snail lines all over it.
00:53:52
jamie peacock
It's going to get ruined, yeah.
00:53:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:55
Curt
like You're better off to anodize it like that and then throw it in the tumbler for like you know a minute just to just to pre-scratch it and then you're like...
00:53:59
jamie peacock
Just to put some... so Yeah.
00:54:01
Curt
Yeah, like Grimsm. All of Grimsmo's knives. like All his stuff he does, he anodizes it and then he tumbles it a little bit.
00:54:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:54:06
Curt
I totally get why. It doesn't make it as vibrant, but it also makes it pocketable. Yeah.
00:54:12
jamie peacock
Yeah. It doesn't instantly pick up a scratch because...
00:54:15
Curt
Yeah, yeah, totally.
00:54:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, the tumble finish is great. I love it. I love tumbling everything.
00:54:20
Curt
It is good. It is nice, yeah.
00:54:21
jamie peacock
I've got, I've got, uh, also bought to enclose my tumbler and I just haven't got around to it. I bought a knife so i can actually cut it because I needed of those long Stanley blades.
00:54:28
Curt
it's Mickey.
00:54:31
jamie peacock
So I bought one of those box cutters so that I can cut the stuff without using a saw, um, that I can enclose my tumbler and see if I can maybe quiet down just a little bit.
00:54:32
Curt
Yep.
00:54:41
jamie peacock
Cause it's just a little bit loud.
00:54:41
Curt
Yep.
00:54:43
jamie peacock
Just like slightly.
00:54:44
Curt
It looks like it's loud. yeah
00:54:46
jamie peacock
It's fucking loud. But yeah, this week i made I made samples finally for the diesel sensors.
00:54:53
jamie peacock
So I'm waiting for them to finish testing. have the diesel sensor guys here today. They are talking about a 6,000 vehicle order that they're trying to get shit dialed in before they deploy. And yeah, that'll be that'll be fun.
00:54:53
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:55:04
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:55:06
jamie peacock
Also, I'm trying to figure out how we can rework 1,200 tubes that they have that they've discovered is they have a defect.
00:55:15
Curt
o
00:55:16
jamie peacock
Not from me, from their design.
00:55:18
jamie peacock
Their design is defective here.
00:55:18
Curt
Right.
00:55:19
Curt
I think you touched. Yeah, I think you touched on it.
00:55:20
jamie peacock
I touched on this. I had them here today and we extended the bullet connector's depth by two millimeters.
00:55:21
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:27
jamie peacock
Still not enough. So I'm like, listen, yeah, we can go another six millimeters and it's not going to be an issue. It means all your tubes you have are going to have to be brought back to me for rework and we're going to have to pop them out and press a new insert and I'm charging you for a new fucking insert and the pressing.
00:55:41
jamie peacock
So it's either that or buy new tubes from me. Don't really care.
00:55:45
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:55:45
jamie peacock
So yeah, we we've got to work around now. So tomorrow morning, I've got to quickly spin up some prototypes for them. And then they will fetch them, test them, and then hopefully they can start ordering stuff. And I can be a bit less poor because that's effectively free money at this point.
00:55:59
Curt
Yeah.

High Volume Production Challenges

00:56:02
jamie peacock
not Their production is so dialed. ah ah So I was chatting to a guy, the knife guy today. I'm like, if they need 12,000 diesel tubes, that's 120 days of Danica standing at Bertha all day.
00:56:02
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:56:16
jamie peacock
Because we can do 100 parts a day. We can 150 if we really push. But yeah, it's a lot of lot of time there.
00:56:23
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:56:23
jamie peacock
There's also a lot of money, so it's fine.
00:56:26
Curt
Yeah, no, balances out. Yeah, for sure.
00:56:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, it balanced out. Like, we make decent money on all those components. So...

Production Process Improvements

00:56:32
jamie peacock
And with us having improved the processes, like now I'm going to put the price up on the bullet connect even though it takes me less time to machine because the material is longer and they don't need to know it takes me less time.
00:56:43
jamie peacock
um The PTFE parts price goes up because material is now longer as well because everything is just grown by six freaking millimeters.
00:56:44
Curt
well, that's...
00:56:51
Curt
Yeah, well, that's...
00:56:52
jamie peacock
And when your parts only 20 mils long, that's a significant increase.
00:56:56
Curt
Well, that that's fine. Like you making efficiencies to gain a better, you know, profit.
00:56:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:02
Curt
That's like, I don't see the like, yeah, that's, that's you.
00:57:04
jamie peacock
that's business, yeah, that's me, like and yeah,
00:57:06
Curt
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Like I've, yeah, I've made significant increases in pen production and I don't typically drop the price. I i just hold the price and I don't increase it, but like it works for everybody.
00:57:15
jamie peacock
yeah, well, that's the mag bases, the mag bases that I make, the i mentioned the guy, now I got a new machine, bit easier to make them, he's like, oh, is that me, better price, I'm like, nope, be happy I haven't put the price up,
00:57:28
jamie peacock
ah You haven't
00:57:28
Curt
Yeah.

Pricing Strategies and Business Acumen

00:57:29
jamie peacock
had a price increase in three years or four years.
00:57:30
jamie peacock
like to Be happy. It went from taking me 15 minutes each taking me like four minutes each, but that's my gain.
00:57:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:37
jamie peacock
That's my $40,000 gain that i have to pay for every month.
00:57:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:37
Curt
yeah yeah
00:57:40
Curt
yeah Right. Yeah. yeah
00:57:41
jamie peacock
like Shit doesn't happen for free.
00:57:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:43
jamie peacock
like Even the case gauges I make, i those things, i was basically hemorrhaging money on them. It was good money, but I was running at a much lower rate because they taking me three hours each.
00:57:54
jamie peacock
They now take me 40 minutes. forty minutes
00:57:57
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:57:58
jamie peacock
The small ones take me six minutes each. It's hilarious. But I also have a $40,000 machine that makes that happen instead of the $2,500 machine that I had.
00:58:06
Curt
Yeah, well, like,
00:58:10
Curt
and, like, anything I buy, like, if I buy something, whatever I buy it, and someone is like, you know what, we've made ah increasements in our facility, and we can now produce it at a higher quality for you, and we'll keep the price the same. I'd be like, sick.
00:58:21
Curt
Like, it would not, like, I'm like, I'm like, I don't want the same quality at, or, like, I don't want you to de degrade the quality and give me a better price.
00:58:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, sweet. Yeah.
00:58:28
Curt
Like, just, that's fine. That that works for me.
00:58:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:58:30
Curt
Like, i don't, yeah, don't know.
00:58:31
jamie peacock
Well, these guys, they called me in like a year ago to discuss pricing on the on the diesel sensors. And I sat and I'm like, cool. You want to discuss how the price is going up?
00:58:42
jamie peacock
You haven't had a price increase in like a year and a half because I've made efficiencies that I've managed to keep the price the same.
00:58:45
Curt
Right.
00:58:47
jamie peacock
And you're showing me my competitors' prices, which are now outdated.
00:58:48
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:58:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:52
jamie peacock
You don't own the drawings either, but they don't need to know that.

Benefits of Local Production

00:58:55
jamie peacock
um Like, yeah, it's... Yeah, it's a give and a take. And their benefits is that I'm close by. So they're not dealing with a six week delay on samples.
00:59:08
jamie peacock
They were here today.
00:59:09
jamie peacock
I'm like, phone me at lunchtime tomorrow and I'll let you know if samples are done. I'm going try to get them done in the morning. Like literally out of, yeah, there's huge, yeah, we're going enormous value in that.
00:59:09
Curt
Yeah,
00:59:16
Curt
there's huge value in that. Yeah.
00:59:19
jamie peacock
And once we get this process dialed again, back to how it was, then it's money printing, which is great.
00:59:25
Curt
Yeah.

Reinvesting Profits for Reliability

00:59:26
jamie peacock
like I need to actually buy a hydraulic power pack for swaging the stuff because the ah the pneumatic hydraulic foot pedal I have, as the as I run, when I assemble 25 in a row, the compressors' air pressure drops a bit, so and then they don't crimp as well.
00:59:43
jamie peacock
So i want to get a little hydraulic power pack, a little 750-watt hydraulic pack that it's always the same, that there's less inconsistency.
00:59:52
Curt
Fair enough, yeah.
00:59:52
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's process improvements. Like... take some of the profits and pump it into making the process more reliable.
00:59:56
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:00
Curt
Yeah. Or take all your profits, in my case.
01:00:04
jamie peacock
I wouldn't know anything about that.
01:00:05
Curt
that forever Forever be shoveling it into the fire.
01:00:07
jamie peacock
that's Dude, that's literally what I did last year.
01:00:09
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:11
jamie peacock
The entire year, every spare cent went to equipment.
01:00:11
Curt
I know.
01:00:15
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:16
jamie peacock
And that was not the most advisable idea I've ever had.
01:00:16
Curt
Yeah. my
01:00:20
Curt
yeah My first, same thing. My first year of operation, I think at the end, uh, the amount of money I made was like $17 and 50 cents. Cause like every single dime just went

Adapting to Financial Slowdowns

01:00:28
Curt
right back into making things better.
01:00:28
jamie peacock
yeah yeah no that that is how it works but at a certain point you need also be a somewhat responsible adult and squirrel some money away so that when customers don't place orders yeah like that is that is my goal um now is to get finally my mark during the podcast here uh is to get
01:00:30
Curt
And it's just like, it's how it works. But yeah.
01:00:39
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Things have changed now. Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:51
jamie peacock
like a good amount of money in the bank account because we were pretty going into the end of last year, we were pretty well off. And then the order stopped rolling in from the biggest customer.
01:00:59
Curt
yeah
01:01:00
jamie peacock
And then that was we were set up for that for like two or three months. It would have been fine. It is now month nine since the last good order.
01:01:05
Curt
yeah
01:01:09
jamie peacock
it's a bit of a bit of a problem luckily other other areas have picked up so it's not the end of days and that tends to be the case like now the talks but has picked up a hell of a lot i think they did maybe a thousand in the last year and they've done two thousand in the last two months two and a thousand in the last three months

New Production Techniques

01:01:25
jamie peacock
and next month's on track for another thousand so yeah it's looking good at least we also might start parkerizing the talk spits
01:01:25
Curt
Well, nice. That's awesome.
01:01:28
Curt
Nice.
01:01:33
Curt
Good. that's good.
01:01:36
Curt
Ooh. Okay.
01:01:37
jamie peacock
Yes, because my knife supply guy has parkourizing juice.
01:01:41
Curt
ah Okay. okay i was wondering how you're going to do that.
01:01:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, so, yeah, he sells the parkourizing juice.
01:01:43
Curt
Okay.
01:01:45
jamie peacock
so So might just buy parkourizing juice and parkourize them. Because it'll stop rusting as well.
01:01:49
Curt
Cool. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
01:01:52
jamie peacock
But I don't really want more chemicals, so it's also that.
01:01:52
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:56
jamie peacock
Look, as it is.
01:01:57
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:57
jamie peacock
I need to, actually this this week, I've got to put my resin printers up here, which means drilling a hole through my wall ah to pipe the fumes out from up here because I don't want the place to stink like resin.
01:02:08
jamie peacock
som to build a fume hood among all the other dumb shit that I've planned for this week.
01:02:10
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:13
Curt
Yeah.

Managing Logistics and Deliveries

01:02:14
Curt
Right on. Good. Do it in your spare time.
01:02:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly. Who needs sleep? can sleep when I'm dead.
01:02:18
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:19
jamie peacock
Like I'm busy trying to get a fourth axis together so that I can do a job by Thursday because lots of spare time.
01:02:20
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:26
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:26
jamie peacock
actually I was just checking now 3D printing store have not shipped my freaking coupling placed order a little bit late today for the coupling that I needed so hopefully they'll ship it first thing in the morning and it'll be here by lunchtime otherwise Danica's going on in an adventure
01:02:39
Curt
Nice. Nice.
01:02:44
jamie peacock
make a drive to Boxburg for me anyway
01:02:45
Curt
Oh, boy.

Blending Personal and Professional Interests

01:02:48
jamie peacock
um what have you been googling the google box you me to go first
01:02:48
Curt
Shoot it.
01:02:51
Curt
The Google box. The Google box has some interest. Yeah, whatever, man. Sure. Rip.
01:02:57
jamie peacock
I've got lots of things in my Google box, mostly 64 on Wordle.
01:02:59
Curt
Okay.
01:03:00
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:01
Curt
Ooh.
01:03:02
jamie peacock
yeah And then looking up ACDC Germiston, which is an electrical supply place. Let's go buy electrical cabinets on Saturday morning. Oh, yes. Spunborne 25 gram per square meter is the filter material that well I'm using.
01:03:18
jamie peacock
The 50 gram per square meter is what I'm using currently.
01:03:19
Curt
Oh, OK. Yeah.
01:03:20
jamie peacock
I'm trying to get the 25. It's little bit thinner and we'll let more coolant pass through it. I was looking up how to integrate a hydraulic turret to Bertha.
01:03:33
jamie peacock
because also got a potential deal on a turret to add to my lathe. And I literally $200 for a turret. um Yeah, looking up chamfer tools, looking up cycle 832, and how it is described in on the Siemens website is not how my machine wants it, which is very annoying.
01:03:53
jamie peacock
I was looking at my phase converter, because I chatting to a guy in the UK who had a rotary phase converter, bought a digital one, sold the rotary and then got a shock from his machine because the neutral isn't properly neutral on the digital one.
01:04:09
jamie peacock
So, probably.
01:04:09
Curt
I might be talking to the same guy. think I'm talking to the same guy as you are.
01:04:12
jamie peacock
Yes, I think so, because he did mention the podcast.
01:04:12
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:15
jamie peacock
um
01:04:16
Curt
Yeah. yeah
01:04:17
jamie peacock
What the... Oh, was looking up if you can use a bullnose endmill on the Fusion Pencil toolpath, because you can't use a bullnose on a geodesic. I tried. Yeah.
01:04:30
jamie peacock
Oh, cool. still got the manual open for the servo drive that I have. I was reading the manual on my phone like a numpty, looking at whether I can do internal homing was what I was looking for.
01:04:37
Curt
Ooh.
01:04:40
jamie peacock
I wanted to use Z z index or index pulse homing.
01:04:41
Curt
Mm.
01:04:45
jamie peacock
So wait for the the proxy to trigger, and then the next revolution after that, at the index point, that is your zero. So super accurate. really And then 3D printing store, checking the status of my order that didn't ship.
01:04:58
Curt
Sick.
01:04:59
jamie peacock
Yeah, fancy stuff.
01:04:59
Curt
Cool. That sounds like a good selection. Let's see what's.
01:05:01
jamie peacock
Yeah, a very wide select. I don't think I cleared my browser from last week.
01:05:05
Curt
Yeah, i try to I try to clear mine like when we do the show, and then I just let her fill up again.
01:05:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's...
01:05:09
Curt
Unless it's boring stuff, then i just click it out because no one wants to hear about boring stuff. And let's lead into it, all the boring stuff here.
01:05:13
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:15
Curt
so ah
01:05:15
jamie peacock
Go for it.
01:05:16
Curt
So same thing, tracking, looking at my little Retroid 5 coming in. So it's it's landed landed in Canada now, so I'm excited.
01:05:21
jamie peacock
Ah.
01:05:24
Curt
um
01:05:24
jamie peacock
I am excited too.
01:05:25
Curt
Looking up the difference on ah SD cards, A1 versus A2, because they they now make SD cards. They used make them just for like speed. And now they also make them for frequency of write because so many people are using them in like small, like single board computers.
01:05:32
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:37
Curt
So there's some that are built to be like, we can read right to this a bajillion times. And some that are like, no, this is for like cameras where it just, you know, like you're reading, you're writing to it. And then that's it. Not just like read, write, read, write, read, write, read, write.
01:05:46
jamie peacock
yeah
01:05:48
Curt
Because that kind of cooks them too. Yeah.
01:05:50
jamie peacock
yeah
01:05:51
Curt
Win later for Android because it's kind of cool. You can run and or Windows apps on your Android devices. Some GitHub related crap, which is a little less interesting.
01:06:02
Curt
And Ryan Retro, it's cool channel. Once again, this is all related to this stupid pocket retroid thing because I've been wanting to play with it. And ah giving dog a like subcutaneous injections because my one girl, she's getting a little older.
01:06:18
Curt
So she has some arthritis medication and
01:06:19
jamie peacock
ah
01:06:21
Curt
to take her to the vet and they just, it's just an under skin shot. And I was like, you know what? I can do this.
01:06:24
jamie peacock
yeah okay yeah okay nice
01:06:24
Curt
So anyways, I just ended up doing that this weekend and it's super, super trivial. And I don't have to take her anywhere. I can just get the medicine and give it to her and no one stresses out and it's nice and easy. So yeah. Yeah. That's been my world.
01:06:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, fun.
01:06:37
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:38
jamie peacock
Fun. Injecting dogs.
01:06:39
Curt
Fun.

Amusing Dog Adventures

01:06:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, we took the dipshits for a walk.
01:06:40
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:42
jamie peacock
Kana doesn't do water until she's in the water. There's an aquifer at the place we we go.
01:06:47
Curt
Hmm. Hmm.
01:06:48
jamie peacock
maybe It's maybe just wide enough for the dog to run in. And she won't get into this thing. So you pick her up by harness, 40 kgs of rottweiler fighting you. Throw her like, put her in there, and then she's happy as a clam. Runs up and down, back and forth. Happy doggo.
01:07:01
jamie peacock
Bad job. Try get her in there is another story. And then I take a a handful of pebbles, and as we're walking, I throw pebbles into the bush. And then you watch these dogs turn and pounce into the bush.
01:07:10
Curt
um
01:07:11
jamie peacock
It's like, yeah, rip Danica off her feet.
01:07:11
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:12
jamie peacock
40 cages of rottweiler tuning. Ha ha! Off to the side.
01:07:15
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:17
jamie peacock
ah job we were We don't normally go there on the weekend because there's a lot of dipshits.
01:07:17
Curt
That's cute.
01:07:22
jamie peacock
Whereas in the week, it's empty. So like in the week, we will go walk in the afternoon and then we'll leave the dogs off lead and let them run because they're both well-behaved, well-adjusted. It's not our dogs that are generally the problem.
01:07:33
jamie peacock
It's the people with their stupid dogs that think, oh, it's a small dog.
01:07:36
Curt
Totally.
01:07:37
jamie peacock
It's fine. No, your dog's a dickhead.
01:07:38
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:40
jamie peacock
Can you imagine if my little Rottweiler was barking like that in a restaurant?
01:07:40
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:43
jamie peacock
Everyone would shit themselves. So yeah, no.
01:07:46
Curt
Absolutely.
01:07:48
jamie peacock
ah I mean, we went to a restaurant. Drax sat under the table by Danica at my feet. Kana sat behind us, laying on the floor, just chilling. Like, but yeah, that's also Danica's rotty mom voice, and the training she does with them helps.
01:08:03
Curt
um like yeah i'm I'm with you. I've never had problems with big dogs. like I have dogs.
01:08:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:08:06
Curt
She's a big girl. I'm 70, 80 pounds. and like Same thing. We only have issues with small dogs because they have complexes.
01:08:11
jamie peacock
Little dogs are dickheads. Yeah.
01:08:13
Curt
Big dogs are like, hey, you're a big dog. I'm a big dog. Let's just play. Let's just hang out. cool.
01:08:17
jamie peacock
Drax thinks he's a small dog.
01:08:19
Curt
Oh, yeah, rough. Yeah.
01:08:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, there was at the restaurant, there's like a picnic table that we sat at. He literally went over the chair under the table. He's like, no, I'm a small doggo.
01:08:27
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:27
jamie peacock
But yeah, he's a fucking potato. Like we had a thunderstorm and he was a bit scared.
01:08:30
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:32
jamie peacock
He's been scared ever since the house next door got hit by lightning.
01:08:33
Curt
Cool.
01:08:35
jamie peacock
So one night it started raining.
01:08:36
Curt
Weird.
01:08:37
jamie peacock
I got up to close our our sliding door and the lightning hit the neighbor's house as I was doing that.
01:08:40
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:42
jamie peacock
But I cucked myself. Danica cucked herself. The dogs cucked themselves. So since then, he's been a little bit touched by loud noises.
01:08:47
Curt
i I don't blame them. That'd be scary as he
01:08:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, neither do I. Fucking hell. No, it was terrifying. Like, literally right next to us.
01:08:53
Curt
as hell. Someone mentioned to me, they're like, can you imagine if lightning, like if thunderstorms existed in the opposite?

Creative Thought Experiment

01:09:02
Curt
you know, with thunderstorms, like, it's dark, and then you get a big flash of light and then a rolling thunder.
01:09:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:09:05
Curt
They're like, can you imagine just during the day, if you were just walking the day, and then it just went completely black, and then just followed, and be
01:09:07
jamie peacock
Whoa.
01:09:13
Curt
it'd be that like a high pitch sound.
01:09:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, that would be fucking terrifying.
01:09:14
Curt
It'd be terrifying.
01:09:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:09:17
Curt
yeah So I thought I was, I always think about that. Now when I'm outside thunderstorm, I'm like this in reverse.
01:09:20
jamie peacock
Oh, geez.
01:09:21
Curt
It'd also be terrifying.
01:09:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, it'll be truly terrifying. Bloody hell. Yeah, no, we're in our windy season.
01:09:25
Curt
Yeah.
01:09:26
jamie peacock
We've had, like, literally our house is whistling from the wind at night because it's blowing, like, through the e Like, it is our windy season now.
01:09:31
Curt
Oh, cool.
01:09:35
jamie peacock
It hasn't been that windy. Normally, July, August, the worst in wind every day. Like, gale force every day. And the last two days have been the first time it's been like that this year.
01:09:47
Curt
Well, that's good then.
01:09:47
jamie peacock
that it's been really like i have to keep the doors closed in the workshop like the back door otherwise it just blows everything out the front doors because it comes like between all the houses up through the garden and straight through the workshop for the back door so yeah it's it's been windy as hell here but yeah it's getting warm again i'm in a freaking t-shirt yeah like it's not cold also i'm a machinist
01:10:00
Curt
Right, yeah, that, yeah, I noticed that, so.

Marketing Strategies: T-Shirt Promotions

01:10:14
Curt
Nice.
01:10:14
jamie peacock
This was on the website for anyone who missed out. um Yeah, it's one of my favorite ones. It's one of my IMTS shirts because I tried at home.
01:10:22
Curt
Ooh.
01:10:24
jamie peacock
mean, put it on all my sleeves.
01:10:25
Curt
What's the flaming man?
01:10:25
jamie peacock
I tried it at home. If I could do it on fire running and then Jspec on the other sleeve.
01:10:29
Curt
It's like...
01:10:30
jamie peacock
ah jo she's She's meant to be making me shirts. She's been meant to be making me shirts for like a year. Anyway, ah so yeah what are you what are you up

Daily Plans and Leisure

01:10:38
jamie peacock
to today?
01:10:38
Curt
Come on. ah Today, I think think I'm going to throw a podcast on and polish a million pen tubes. That's kind of what i I was either going to do a bunch of CAD.
01:10:46
jamie peacock
son
01:10:47
Curt
I might do that, but I think I'm just going to sit and do some um polishing for a while because that seems like what I'm mentally prepared to do right now.
01:10:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, the brain dead works fine.
01:10:55
Curt
Let the let the but the machine work, make some pocket clips, finish the second op on those and just do some brain dead work. That kind of feels like a nice start to the week. Yeah.
01:11:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:11:03
Curt
And then, yeah, finish that and CAD and whatever. Move the next production through and doing a bunch of Canada pens and a bunch of black pens. So that'll be nice.
01:11:09
jamie peacock
Ooh, fancy.
01:11:10
Curt
But yeah. How about you? What you up to?

Ongoing Technical Projects

01:11:13
jamie peacock
I've got to design a motor adapter when we're done here and a circuit board and order some screws online.
01:11:15
Curt
Right. Yeah. Hmm.
01:11:19
jamie peacock
And then I'm going to snooze. And then tomorrow morning, I think I'm going to arrange my chat with John to be an Instagram call so that I can polish a mold while I chat to him. And get that knocked out first thing in the morning while I wait for that coupling.
01:11:33
jamie peacock
And then I don't think I have any of those couplings laying around. I might take one off Bertha. um Like I want that fourth axis running now. So I might build out the electronics tomorrow. I still don't know which which I'm going to go for, the 400 watt servo or the 4.5 newton meter stepper.
01:11:50
jamie peacock
Like both fit.
01:11:52
Curt
I said probably both of work just the same.
01:11:52
jamie peacock
It's, yeah.
01:11:53
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's basically whatever's going to fit in the electrical enclosure. Because I can always just install the drives in the main machine's electrical enclosure. Like, nothing's stopping me from doing that.
01:12:02
Curt
yeah
01:12:04
jamie peacock
But I have got a standalone enclosure that I can use as well. I bought an enclosure over the weekend. But the servo drive doesn't stand up in it. It's got to go sideways.
01:12:13
jamie peacock
Which is annoying.
01:12:13
Curt
I say if you're going to do a lot of can do a lot of simultaneous, I'd probably run the servo, but if you're not, if you're just doing positional, it's probably...
01:12:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's not connected to my controller, so it's not going to be simultaneous.
01:12:21
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:22
jamie peacock
Like I have to buy a Siemens drive and a Siemens motor if I want to go simultaneous, which I'm not opposed to doing.
01:12:22
Curt
Yeah, I'd probably just... Don't worry about it.
01:12:26
Curt
Right, yeah. Yeah.
01:12:29
jamie peacock
Like I'll chat to the to the guys and find out what the install fee would be on getting that working. And like, there you go. Everything is wired in. You just need to do the software shit and put it in in that way.
01:12:41
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:43
jamie peacock
It might be a valid option. But for now, just indexing is going to be what it is, which I think is going to change a lot of the way I do a lot of things.
01:12:47
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
01:12:52
Curt
Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably. if you can access all four sides.
01:12:53
jamie peacock
Because I did also think of making a 4th axis anchor point.
01:13:00
Curt
Okay, yeah. That'd be cute.
01:13:03
jamie peacock
With 50% more clamping power.
01:13:07
Curt
How?
01:13:08
jamie peacock
Make the piston bigger for unclamping and add extra springs.
01:13:10
Curt
Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Fair enough.
01:13:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, so if I go from 75 to 95, I get just over 50% more force, which means I can add another 3 springs in and get extra gripping force.
01:13:12
Curt
Easy enough.
01:13:23
jamie peacock
So we will see.
01:13:24
Curt
It's an option.
01:13:25
jamie peacock
Yeah, the issue is that this fourth axis, the face plate's really weird.
01:13:25
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:29
jamie peacock
So I might just make a custom interface plate for that or something. I'll have another look at it tomorrow. It's got a big through ball, like 30-something millimeter through ball.
01:13:38
Curt
Oh, that's nice.
01:13:38
jamie peacock
But it's like that diameter, the face of it, the actual face of the fourth.
01:13:43
Curt
Hmm.
01:13:44
jamie peacock
And then it had a ah weird plate. So I know. I'll see see what I'm going to do there. i might just have someone cylindrically grind a bigger faceplate for me. Like have it have it turned up and then have them grind it properly for me and put that on there.
01:13:58
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:58
jamie peacock
But I don't know. We'll see. Doesn't really need it. so Because the other option I've got also with the fourth axis, because it's Jamie special, I can home it and then say once home goes so many degrees and set zero.

Product Sales and Demand Management

01:14:11
jamie peacock
So I could always have it with something that is then clocked
01:14:12
Curt
Right.
01:14:15
jamie peacock
like a feature, like it doesn't actually matter where the home position is on the trunnion, on the, trunion on it's going to get a trunnion on it, let's face it, I'm going to put multiple vases on it, like it's happening, I may as well not fart it, yeah, I like doing dumb shit, it's great, but yeah, cool beans, oh cool, where can people find your stuff, Kurt, is there any way to buy, to sign up for lotteries, what happened with your lottery, nothing, okay, cool,
01:14:17
Curt
Totally.
01:14:20
Curt
Yeah, yeah, totally.
01:14:24
Curt
Yeah.
01:14:29
Curt
Nice.
01:14:33
Curt
Yeah, that's good. Cool, man.
01:14:38
Curt
ah No, dude, no. but ah Closed. Closed right now until I bring the numbers down a little bit. I've been tossing around the idea of a presale. so People on Discord kind of mentioned it to me, and I've been thinking about it for a long time.
01:14:54
Curt
Uh, but we'll see. I have some other things in the works right now.
01:14:56
jamie peacock
and go
01:14:57
Curt
I'd kind of like to get that click mechanism released before I sign up for a presale. Cause I think, uh, it's just lots of, lots of balls in the, lots of balls in the air, but I would, I would like to make it easy for people to purchase my stuff, but there's also people waiting.
01:15:08
Curt
So it's a balancing act. So anyways, confoundermachine.com where you can find none of my information except a bunch of pictures.
01:15:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:15:12
jamie peacock
Nothing.
01:15:15
Curt
You can sign up on the contact page for notifications. I will do first come first serve sales. Um, yeah yeah and yeah, done. That's probably the people's best bet if you're not in the lottery already, but a ton of people, pretty much anybody that listens to this is probably already in the lottery.
01:15:27
Curt
If they're into that kind of stuff, because it's been open for months and months and months and months and months.
01:15:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:15:31
Curt
So yeah. Anyway, how about you?
01:15:33
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:15:33
Curt
How can people find your wares?

Boosting Sales with New Strategies

01:15:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, you can find... a Our website, jspeceng.com. You can find the anchor point there. There's bit of a deal going on for the batch one anchor points. And if those all sold out, there's still a deal going on for the not but yeah for the not batch one anchor points if we run out of batch ones.
01:15:50
jamie peacock
We also have some new palette designs that I'm working on. And you can find us on Instagram jspec underscore engineering, where you can see the day-to-day shenanigans of my workshop because I post a lot of stories on there, including the fourth axis that I'm busy making work again.
01:16:07
jamie peacock
So yeah, like good that's pretty much where you can find me. if you Yes, once again, go buy shirts so my wife will leave me alone. um She asked me to promote the shirts some more. They are leaving the store at the end of the month, I think. So yeah, go have a look and see if you like any of our fancy shirts.
01:16:23
jamie peacock
And then ah kt will shot Kurt said he would model them when they arrive, the ones that I sent him.
01:16:23
Curt
I will, but I'm not wearing the ones that currently have because they're little snug and be a little X-rated. Maybe we can leave that in the after show.
01:16:32
jamie peacock
going to be ripped. as afford Those are for your other use of the camera.
01:16:37
Curt
Right, yeah yeah, exactly.
01:16:38
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:16:38
Curt
My nighttime use of the camera.
01:16:40
jamie peacock
There we go. Sweet. Thank you everybody for listening. hope you enjoyed the podcast. If you enjoyed it and you feel like sharing it, please do so. um If you're watching on YouTube or Zencaster, you can just listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. And if you're just listening there, you can see ugly faces on the other two.
01:16:59
jamie peacock
So thank you very much for listening and we will see you next week.
01:17:03
Curt
Take care, all.