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Ep. 43: Victory, vengeance, and very questionable tooling decisions
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Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as The Arival of Spinderella, the magic of the Siemens Oscilliscope, and the frustration of Facebook Scams.
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Transcript
Introduction to the Podcast
00:00:11
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Lone Machinist Podcast, where it's just you, your machines, and your workshop. ah What's going on today, Kurt?
Machinery and Workshop Projects
00:00:19
Curt
ah Today I'm going to talk about messing around with home assistant cameras, how the Siemens oscilloscope is pure magic, and ah more incantations about lathes and guide bushing lathes and all that nonsense. How about you? What you got going on this week?
00:00:32
jamie peacock
So this week I got a lathe, using a drill as a face grooving tool, and... Yeah, made ah a vacuum chuck for my anchor point. So yeah, let's dive into it.
00:00:44
jamie peacock
How are you doing this fine day, Kurt?
00:00:47
Curt
Oh, I'm doing and fantastic. How are you doing on this lovely evening for you?
00:00:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, winter is back. It's freaking cold.
00:00:55
Curt
Ah, that's why the sweater's on. Okay, this makes sense.
00:00:56
jamie peacock
Yes, no, literally wearing two shirts under it.
00:00:56
Curt
Do
00:00:58
jamie peacock
i mean, freaking ass cold all day.
Weather and Workshop Adjustments
00:01:00
jamie peacock
It's horrible.
00:01:01
Curt
you have pants on? Or long pants, sorry?
00:01:03
jamie peacock
I have short pants on. No, don't be silly.
00:01:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:05
jamie peacock
It's against the company dress code.
00:01:06
Curt
See?
00:01:07
jamie peacock
um
00:01:08
Curt
It's not that cold then. Mm-hmm.
00:01:09
jamie peacock
No, flipping good way got delivered and we built a tent around it and we did that all in the sun and got a little sunburned and then it's rained every day since.
00:01:21
Curt
Yeah, that's how it works, right?
00:01:23
jamie peacock
So yeah, like, uh, it was, it was yesterday, sunny in the morning, start pressure washing parts. Next thing, raining, then sunny, then raining, then sunny through the whole day, just on off, on off.
00:01:34
jamie peacock
So I was literally pressure washing stuff in the rain.
00:01:35
Curt
Nice.
00:01:36
jamie peacock
I'm like, man, i'm getting wet anyway.
00:01:38
jamie peacock
Um, trying to get the brass shavings out of that bloody machine because they react with the coolant and then like just ewe.
00:01:38
Curt
Uh-uh.
00:01:47
Curt
they're gooey, yeah.
00:01:47
jamie peacock
Got it mostly deewed on the covers we pulled off. Now I'm waiting for coolant killy stuff and then I'm going to wash down the actual machine with a little 10 bar 12 volt pressure washer with coolant so that it won't flash rust.
00:02:04
jamie peacock
And then as soon as that's clean, I can then start cycling the coolant and get that pumped out this week. And yeah, making we're making progress.
00:02:14
Curt
and looks It looks like way more compact than it. Like, I like it.
Machines and Modifications
00:02:17
Curt
It's a cute little lady. Like, it's...
00:02:17
jamie peacock
It's super tiny. Yeah, no.
00:02:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:02:19
jamie peacock
it's So overall length, it's about 400 millimeters shorter than Bertha and about 200 millimeters shallower. a little bit taller, but that's not the handle there.
00:02:27
Curt
ah Okay.
00:02:30
jamie peacock
But box weighs, it moves nicely. Uh, yeah, had to modify the servo mounts and all that over the weekend because some smart, yeah, some smart dig redesigned the servo mounts and then, oh shit, pulled the servo mounts off the machine, machined those too.
00:02:37
Curt
Yeah, saw that.
00:02:44
jamie peacock
So that's all, that's all. But now that's what I'm actually printing right now is the little gland to seal the cables into the little blue box I made. So the plugs on my, um, on my servos, I wouldn't call them waterproof.
00:02:55
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:03:02
jamie peacock
I wouldn't call them anything proof. These friggin things. So, yeah.
00:03:06
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:03:08
jamie peacock
So I printed on the servo mount, I added six holes and then I made a big PTG print that encloses the servo motor with the with the joints in it. And then from there, it'll go out of a TPU gland with some silicon just to stop ingress of water.
00:03:23
jamie peacock
There are drain holes on the bottom. or of coolant there's drain holes in the bottom so if stuff gets in it can get out uh just to try and improve longevity i was a little concerned about heat but then i have a giant aluminium block that works as a heat sink so not such a yeah i think it we'll be fine um so yeah i want to get i want to start getting electronics into the machine but need to clean it first and i did not get a chance i think i left the shop today for like 40 minutes to quickly go to buy some bolts
00:03:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:03:36
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, I think you'd be all right in that regard.
Mist Collectors and Machine Interface
00:03:53
jamie peacock
and some spray paint so I can paint to the user interface, which is also here, that arrived today.
00:03:57
jamie peacock
Well, that got fetched by my wife today.
00:03:57
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:03:58
Curt
Mm.
00:04:00
jamie peacock
So I have the user interface. It's cold as hell, so I'm waiting for the heat. Then I'm going paint it. Then that's two or three days that I've got to wait for it to dry because it's the Rust-Oleum Hammond stuff. And if you don't let it dry, it's horrible.
00:04:12
jamie peacock
But once it's dry, you can't get it off.
00:04:16
Curt
Nice.
00:04:16
jamie peacock
so yeah now that stuff's vicious but you've got to let it dry for two days so i'm going to let dry in the sun for two days and then i will have my user interface and while that dries i can i can mark the stainless steel plate for the buttons for the user interface buttons i went full on from the beginning stainless plate not mpf
00:04:34
Curt
Ooh. So now you can wail on the e-stop and not blow it through the panel.
00:04:39
jamie peacock
yes and it's not going and not push it through the panel
00:04:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:04:44
jamie peacock
But yeah, what's going on?
00:04:46
Curt
Sick.
00:04:46
jamie peacock
What's been going on in your world?
00:04:49
Curt
Oh man, a million things. I, those giant, but I say giant, but they're not giant in the world of those miscollectors showed up just like one night. Some guy shows up at my doorstop and like what are you here for?
00:04:59
Curt
And he's just like rolling this box down my sidewalk. and i'm like, what?
00:05:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:05:03
Curt
it I'm like, Oh no, those are my miscollectors. So thankfully, thankfully they're boxed up really well. So they're fine, but they're built like tanks. I don't know how they're going to work.
00:05:13
Curt
So I got to mess around.
00:05:14
jamie peacock
Those are the filter mystery units.
00:05:14
Curt
We'll get those wired up.
00:05:18
Curt
Filtermist slash Royal slash, yeah, they're branded by a, yeah, they're like, I think I got like the S800s or something like that.
00:05:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's just the baby ones, little, little pinky ones.
00:05:27
Curt
So yeah, they're whatever.
00:05:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, I think it's smaller ones. Yeah, they had one at Machine Tool Africa.
00:05:29
Curt
A tenant.
00:05:30
jamie peacock
i
CNC vs Manual Operations
00:05:31
jamie peacock
know the the local agents. So went to chat to him at his booth and they had a thing where they were filling, they had like a clear chamber with one of those little ultrasonic foggers. They'd fill the whole thing with fog and then you push the button and it turn and just go, whoop, suck it clean.
00:05:41
Curt
Oh yeah.
00:05:45
jamie peacock
It was really, yeah, really interesting.
00:05:45
Curt
That's cool.
00:05:47
jamie peacock
And then it ah it spins it out and drops it back into the tank, which is quite cool.
00:05:51
Curt
Yeah, I've heard mixed reviews on them. Some people are like, they're horrible. They're useless. and some people are like, they're great. But then there's also like people that are running the cheap filters and probably getting, and then there's like the filter I bought for is like $1,000.
00:05:59
jamie peacock
yeah
00:06:01
Curt
So, cause it's for the, the, my oil lathe and I want to, yeah, I want to make it sub micron filtration.
00:06:04
jamie peacock
oil yeah
00:06:07
Curt
So hopefully it like it's supposed to get the smoke out. It's built for Swiss. So we'll see, we'll see if it works. And if it doesn't, then I'm just cleaning the air a little bit more before I pump it outside. So whatever, it'll still work.
00:06:15
jamie peacock
yeah saving the planners yeah yeah I didn't get I didn't get feedback from the guy on the price on those box turning heads
00:06:18
Curt
I'm saving the planet. Exactly. And yeah, I don't know. Just messed around. Just a bit of feeling things. Shoot.
00:06:31
Curt
Oh, those giant ones.
00:06:32
jamie peacock
I have, they're not giant, dude, they're like this big. They're small.
00:06:35
jamie peacock
They're super cute.
00:06:36
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:06:36
Curt
They look like they look like about like, you know,
00:06:38
jamie peacock
There was one or two big ones, but there was a pretty small one.
00:06:39
Curt
huge
00:06:41
jamie peacock
I'm like, hmm, I should convince Kurt to just build an OD turning machine that just box turns as bar to size. Put a full length and so on there and it just feed it through.
00:06:53
Curt
I'm getting to that. Like I, I found way more examples of like guys using like guide bushings on a manual lathe.
00:06:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:59
Curt
And I was like, Oh, so I think I'm gonna go down that rabbit hole. Um, not right now, but, uh,
00:07:03
jamie peacock
Well, if you want a box turning attachment, I know a guy, that probably, that's probably going to be like $100.
00:07:11
Curt
I can get all those like those kind of old... think they're like Boyan something or whatever. They're like 100 years old. I can get those everywhere. They're on they're on eBay everywhere. um' I'm trying to find the nice ones that they
00:07:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, I wasn't sure if this one, there was something that looked like it was a lever to disengage, but I didn't play with it too much. I was busy prepping the good way to move instead.
00:07:30
Curt
yeah
00:07:33
Curt
Yeah, no fair. Well, I mean, I did a bunch of timing.
00:07:34
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:35
Curt
Like, I timed how much the CNC lathe is running and how much the manual lathe is running. And I'm like well, honestly, I'm like, it still sucks to do this on the manual lathe. But I'm like, if I could, I'll be so much time ahead as opposed to like, because my lathe kind of gets swamped with work.
00:07:48
Curt
So i was like, meh.
00:07:48
jamie peacock
yeah
00:07:50
Curt
I could make a lot of cash in the next few months just doing this manually for a while and get myself a good down payment for whatever, something else. So, yeah.
00:07:57
jamie peacock
yeah
00:07:59
Curt
So I'll probably, I'll probably go down the the guide bushing rabbit hole just because it's, I kind of want to as well. So like.
00:08:04
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:08:07
jamie peacock
Definitely. I get it. You want to go that route. You enjoy the the fun side of things of making a solution.
00:08:16
Curt
Yeah. Well, like. And then I've been talking to like a bunch of like Swiss guys. um Actually, Ian at Shown Designs, super nice dude. He just like lets me call him on his phone and we chatted for like 45 minutes about Swiss.
00:08:29
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:08:29
Curt
And he basically, it didn't scare me away from used machines, but he told me some aspects of used machines where he's like,
00:08:35
Curt
He's like, I know what you're going to do with it. he's like i know what you're going try to do. He's like, and this is the same issue I'm having because he's doing the same kind of shit, like crazy, intricate patterns.
00:08:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:08:43
Curt
He's like, you have to integrate you have to realize like bar feeders can cause you a lot of freaking headache because I was under the assumption that a bar feeder like pushes the stock into, obviously it loads bars, but like I was assuming it pushes it into the spindle and then it just kind of like maintains tension on the end of the bar and then stabilizes it, obviously.
00:09:00
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:00
Curt
But it's it's chasing it with a servo. So whatever movement the the headstock has, the bar feeder is also moving.
00:09:04
jamie peacock
Oh.
00:09:08
Curt
But the problem is it's a servo on like a gear cog because it's like 20 feet long typically.
00:09:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:12
Curt
So he's like, if you're trying to move like a foul, he's like, you might get a like a bar feeder ah motor alarm of like, oh, I can't do that. Like i I can't move insignificantly and it throws an error. And he's like, he's like you'll be you'll you'll drive yourself nuts with that kind of stuff.
00:09:25
Curt
And i wass like, ooh, okay, this is a point. Because I'm sure like there's there's ways around it. But I mean, he has a bunch of older machines too. So
Scam Experiences and Reflections
00:09:33
Curt
there's issues. So anyways, just kind of scared me away from older machines.
00:09:36
Curt
And yeah.
00:09:37
jamie peacock
well did you see that link I sent you could you open it the one for the $10 Swiss that I sent you dude come on
00:09:38
Curt
I don't
00:09:41
Curt
know. What one? ah Probably, but my... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:09:52
jamie peacock
Lighty CNC that thing. Norman was literally in the chat when we when we spotted that machine.
00:09:54
Curt
Dude, if...
00:09:58
Curt
If I didn't have to, like, drive across a border, and then, because it's local pickup only, and it's, like, 3,000 miles away from me, so it's still a...
00:10:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:10:05
jamie peacock
Also, Jacob said he'll happily fetch it for you.
00:10:06
Curt
It's a trek. Yeah. Oh, yeah. yeah
00:10:09
jamie peacock
I told Jacob, because it's right by Jacob, said to Jacob, just bid on it.
00:10:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:12
jamie peacock
Maybe you'll win it. You just don't pick it up and they'll sell it and you'll make another $1,000 like he did Kitamuro. Yeah. like you did with a kitamurra
00:10:18
Curt
Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I forgot about that. Yeah.
00:10:22
jamie peacock
but yeah i know we're looking at machines on friday night on the on the taps and patients hangout yeah that's
00:10:25
Curt
ah
00:10:30
Curt
Nice. So hu tell me how you got ah how you got scammed.
00:10:36
jamie peacock
so before we discuss how i got scammed this is a call for anyone wants to fund my new endeavor i want to go fetch a rock and throw it at this planet and get rid of humans in general because i don't like any of them we can all just f***ing die Um, so when the good way got delivered, it got delivered with a nice 140 kilogram transformer.
00:10:56
jamie peacock
So 15 KVA step down transform. I'm like, sweet list on a marketplace. So listed on a marketplace, get a message from a guy. I know he's interested in my sweet. So we chat to check out his profile looks legit.
00:11:09
jamie peacock
It looks like he runs a fruit and veg like farm or whatever. So like I got guy obviously needs it for his machinery. And he's okay, you drop off. Yeah, no problem. Arrange drop-off.
00:11:21
jamie peacock
Sends me a proof of payment. I'm like, yeah, that looks fine. There's no fucking major typos or anything. We drop it off. We're leaving there. We're driving. We must be about half an hour away. And I get another proof of payment for another amount.
00:11:33
jamie peacock
So I'm like, oh, I've just been scammed. Then he phones me. Oh no, sorry, my wife paid you by mistake instead of our driver, but our account's maxed out. Can you just transfer I'm like, till the money's in my account, you can go get off a bridge. Like, no.
00:11:48
jamie peacock
And then few hours later, I get a phone call. No, it's the driver. He's stuck. He doesn't have diesel. I'm like, I don't care. Trying to get money out of me to bring my transformer back. I'm like, dude, until there's money in my account, just fuck off and die.
00:12:02
jamie peacock
At this point, I've lost my transformer. I'm not losing anything else. So basically, they sent a fraudulent approved payment through. And look legit, assume the best in humanity, which I really shouldn't fucking do.
00:12:15
jamie peacock
People suck and can go die. And then sends another fraudulent one through. And then he's like, oh, just transfer me that money. I'm like, fuck off. No. Now, as soon as I saw it come through, I'm like, ah, fuck.
00:12:25
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:12:28
jamie peacock
I've been scammed. Maybe I haven't, but I have.
00:12:30
Curt
Oh.
00:12:31
jamie peacock
The money's not in my fucking account, so I'm short of $400 in scrap. Never mind what I was trying to sell the transformer for.
00:12:37
Curt
Oh.
00:12:39
jamie peacock
So yeah, a little bit annoyed and want to go fetch a rock and just throw it at fucking humanity and just take the scourge off the planet. um Yeah, ah I was a little bit pissed on Friday with that because, I mean, it took us an hour to go drop it off.
00:12:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:53
jamie peacock
Because I'm going to fucking go off to pay for delivery and charge them extra like fucking $20, $25, whatever it was. And then, yeah, fucking got scammed. That's what I get for trusting in humanity.
00:13:03
Curt
Aww.
00:13:06
jamie peacock
So now humanity can go die
00:13:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:08
jamie peacock
So yeah, I was a little annoyed. Like, it is what it is. I wasn't budgeting on selling that transformer. i actually didn't know there was a transformer until like a week ago. But still a little bit pissed that got shortchanged out of like $400 in scrap.
00:13:23
jamie peacock
I was selling it for like $600. So yeah, a little bit annoyed.
00:13:26
Curt
and Yeah, that's a bummer. That sucks.
00:13:30
jamie peacock
But very interesting the way that syndicate runs because it's obviously a syndicate because I got phoned by an Indian guy um No, no, he's in another province. So can I drop it off on his workers? Gave me an address, went there, dropped off with his worker. Like, worker wants to see it. Like, he wants his worker to confirm it actually exists.
00:13:47
jamie peacock
So I'm like, yeah, no worries.
00:13:48
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm.
00:13:49
jamie peacock
but confirm now you have your proof of payment sweet fucking take the thing i trust that I'm not like it seemed legit and then when I got that second proof of payment he's like oh sorry but and now it's from another number that he phoned no no my wife made the payment by mistake I'm like that's nice till that money's in my account it's fuck all is going out so yeah I was a bit a bit irked and then then a third number for the driver that's allegedly stuck somewhere with no diesel I'm like I literally don't give a fuck
00:14:19
jamie peacock
speak to your mates like this is not my problem so anyway it was uh it was annoying and uh has uh ruined my faith in humanity even more because at this point humanity's uh on a downward spiral
00:14:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:30
Curt
Yeah. Well,
00:14:35
Curt
it it can seem like that for sure. Yeah.
00:14:38
jamie peacock
yeah it's a little bit
00:14:39
Curt
Yeah.
Machine Setup and Innovations
00:14:41
jamie peacock
um yeah humanity's a bit dumb these days but anyway on a uh more positive note
00:14:41
Curt
yeah
00:14:49
jamie peacock
trying to figure why there's a thing called modifications on the good way in my list of things i'm assuming yeah i did i'm assuming it's modifying the servo mounts uh i've actually got the the parts catchers bearing here i thought this was a block with a linear bearing in no it's a freaking bush in here and i don't know what material it is it was seized on the shaft and i'm like
00:14:55
Curt
but I don't know. you I think you wrote them.
00:15:01
Curt
Oh, yeah. fair
00:15:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:11
Curt
Oh.
00:15:13
jamie peacock
Do I just polish fucking shafts, buy some Argus bushes and push Argus in here? this i mean, it's a stainless part. I'll remake it out of aluminium. I'm not going to make it out a stainless one.
00:15:22
Curt
Right.
00:15:24
jamie peacock
Or do I just try and clean it? that The seals are gone. I'm going have to print new seals or do something. So, yeah, I don't know. I'm toying with what to do on the part scatcher because I do actually want to use it.
00:15:35
jamie peacock
So, I'm half tempted make whole new blocks and just... I've got some Argus material from IMTS. Just press those in.
00:15:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:42
jamie peacock
Or buy set of Argus bushes.
00:15:42
Curt
I'd probably go that. yeah
00:15:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's buy set Argus bushes.
00:15:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:47
jamie peacock
Press them in and be done with it.
00:15:47
Curt
For what it is, if it's just and which is a catcher, yeah, why not?
00:15:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's sliding on a linear shaft. That's a little fucking shot, but I mean, a little bit of steel wool is going to fix that. um
00:15:57
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:57
jamie peacock
I think the issue is they're running brass, and brass got in there, and then it just sat. And that's caused a bit of issue.
00:16:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:04
jamie peacock
So yeah, i want I want to run that. That's also getting its own digital input on the controller. so that i know it is parked i don't assume it is part because if you assume it's parked you slam your your tooling blocks through it so there will be no assumptions there um i don't know if i mentioned uh last week uh yeah the good way um it has gang blocks i found the gang blocks on the table next to the good way
00:16:14
Curt
see
00:16:19
Curt
yeah
00:16:35
jamie peacock
and I got them thrown into the deal.
00:16:36
Curt
Oh, nice. Okay.
00:16:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, only problem, they're 32mm boring bar holders and everything I have is 25 and under, so now I've got to borrow a bar of reducers. But not going to complain, it I've got two round holders and two 20mm square holders.
00:16:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:54
Curt
Nice. That helps, yeah.
00:16:54
jamie peacock
So and that at least gets me gets me going. My collared chuck nose went to heat treat today.
00:16:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:02
jamie peacock
So that I'll get back later this week.
00:17:02
Curt
Hmm.
00:17:04
jamie peacock
And then hopefully by then the machine will be running. Because guess what? When you run a 4kW VFD on a 10m extension cord, you get low voltage alarms when you try to spin the spindle.
00:17:15
Curt
yeah You a bigger extension cord. That's all you need.
00:17:18
jamie peacock
Exactly. I've got the cable for the machine on order. So when that comes in, I'll just run the cable outside instead. So basically where the machine's sitting now is the same roughly the same distance to where it will be in the workshop from the DB board I'm going to use.
00:17:31
jamie peacock
So I can just run the cable out there for now to play with the machine and test my hypothesis on the spindle spinning.
00:17:31
Curt
OK.
00:17:38
jamie peacock
But I'm fairly confident that I can make that work.
00:17:42
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:17:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, i still need to get all the EMR filtering. There's few odds and ends. But as it stands, today's the 20th. Bertha leaves in 10 days time Bertha is leaving the workshop which means nine days time I have to decommission Bertha the good way moves in on the 30th and calls late lands in my driveway on the 31st for the next retrofit
00:18:05
Curt
okay Yeah, so...
00:18:09
jamie peacock
And the problem there is we can't we can't get like proper access to the machine to pre-order servos or pre-order VFDs or any of that shit.
00:18:09
Curt
Jamie's...
00:18:18
jamie peacock
It's got to hit our driveway, get stripped, so we can see what we need before we can order. So it's going to sit there for like a month.
00:18:24
Curt
ah Bummer.
00:18:25
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's fine. I've got a giant tent.
00:18:29
Curt
I guess, yeah.
00:18:29
jamie peacock
It's mostly waterproof.
00:18:32
jamie peacock
Like, my mother-in-law's not super impressed with me, but it's also...
00:18:36
Curt
Yeah, weird. I don't know why.
00:18:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, no idea why. But yeah, we found a machine for coal, which is quite cool. Trying to find him a good tool post is a bit of a challenge.
00:18:44
Curt
Nice. Come on down to Jamie's Retrofit Emporium where we have all the lathes you'll ever need.
00:18:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. Flip. We've got a pile of blades at this point. But yeah, i'm very I'm very excited to get the good way into the shop and actually running. Like, it's going to be a fun little lathe.
00:19:00
jamie peacock
and
00:19:01
jamie peacock
And you can also adjust the center height on the gang blocks. They're really cool.
00:19:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:05
Curt
Oh, sick.
00:19:05
jamie peacock
So they drop in. They've effectively got a vertical dovetail and then the blocks go on the side and you can set your center height.
00:19:10
Curt
Oh.
00:19:12
jamie peacock
It doesn't have any decent adjustment, but you can fuck with it.
00:19:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:17
jamie peacock
So you can adjust your effectively your wa X is on your X axis.
00:19:21
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:23
jamie peacock
So yeah, I'm kind of excited to play with those and see how they ah well they work.
00:19:24
Curt
Right.
00:19:26
Curt
ah that's cool.
00:19:28
jamie peacock
Because my plan is to just leave my parting tool all the way at the end, leave a boring all way this end and then any creative shit in the middle.
00:19:36
Curt
Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm.
00:19:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, so that's at least, that is the the theory. We will see how the theory works in practice. and practice
00:19:43
Curt
Yeah, cool. im I'm excited to see the little thing go. It looks it looks stout. It looks looks like it'll be a good machine for you.
00:19:47
jamie peacock
It is robust as fuck. Like, it's properly, like, the and the the ways are still, like, in mint condition. The ball screws feel great. So, yeah, I'm pretty, pretty happy.
00:19:58
Curt
Perfect.
00:20:00
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, machined all the couplings out. So, yeah, um it's literally not just a case of I need to wash it so I can start putting stuff on. because obviously don't want to put the new mojas in until I've washed the years and years of shit out of the machine because it looks like know if they stole parts or if fucking what happened there's a fitting missing for the grease system or the oil system and the oil's just been pooling so I've got to clean that off so I want to use coolant to do that because the coolant I have has got built-in detergent so it'll actually melt the stuff and actually clean as we go and I can just wash down into the tank and then I can pump the tank out
00:20:07
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:20:18
Curt
Nice.
00:20:31
Curt
Yeah,
00:20:35
jamie peacock
poison everything in it, rinse it out again, rinse it out again, then rinse it out again, and then maybe it'll be good.
00:20:43
Curt
yeah, yeah. Nice.
00:20:44
jamie peacock
And I found a spot to put a skimmer as well, which is nice. I wasn't sure if I was going to find a spot.
00:20:49
Curt
Nice.
00:20:49
jamie peacock
Also, Finuc are a bunch of numpties, and they use the same cable for everything. I cannot find the pinout for the Finuc encoder. ah Sorry, I found ah found the pin outs, but not to that plug.
00:20:59
Curt
Nice.
00:21:03
jamie peacock
So I know that they what the pins coming out are, but what fucking pin they're on is... I'm going to open it and see.
00:21:12
jamie peacock
a bit annoying, but I will try and reuse their cable because it's a really nice cable.
00:21:19
Curt
yeah
00:21:19
jamie peacock
Either that or I'm going to pull it off and I'm to put Ethernet jack
Siemens Oscilloscope Benefits
00:21:22
jamie peacock
because I actually have an Ethernet port on my breakout boards for running your encoder.
00:21:30
jamie peacock
So it comes up in twisted pairs, ground in each signal into an Ethernet port that isn't an Ethernet port.
00:21:32
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:21:36
jamie peacock
That's just a connector. So I might do that.
00:21:39
Curt
Sick. Cool.
00:21:40
jamie peacock
So now the most important thing, Kurt, is the fourth fixed.
00:21:41
Curt
Cool, cool.
00:21:43
Curt
Yeah, man. The fourth is fixed, and I have no godly reason why. i I have no idea what's going on.
00:21:53
jamie peacock
Ah, yes. Okay. So I saw your story. I saw your stories through the week. And yeah, it's now fixed.
00:21:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:59
jamie peacock
It got scared because you were poking at it.
00:22:00
Curt
It's fixed. Like... Well, like for I will say I am so blown away. So I didn't know the Siemens had a full like under their setting. There's a trace function, which is a oscilloscope built in oscilloscope.
00:22:08
jamie peacock
give it to yeah
00:22:11
Curt
And it's like a 16 channel oscilloscope. And you can log for like whatever you can log to like external storage. So if you have a giant card and you put it in there, you want to log for like you probably log for hours. And like you can track temperatures, you like whatever is on the machine.
00:22:26
Curt
can be tracked it's insane i am every machine should have this i will never buy a cnc machine that doesn't have this kind of function it is heiden heinz siemens yeah that's basically all gonna buy because like you could troubleshoot anything like if you have a servo that's sticking you can watch the current of every phase if you want you could watch the stall court like you can watch anything over long periods of time as you're running code
00:22:33
jamie peacock
So yeah what I'm hearing is Hardenhan or Siemens is the only option now.
00:22:49
jamie peacock
Okay, we're gonna need we're gonna need to check. I want to so I need to figure out how to get to this menu because I want to see what temperature monitoring is in my machine.
00:22:57
jamie peacock
Because I know my machine stretches during the day, the column.
00:22:57
Curt
yeah yeah you yeah Yeah, yeah, you could log your temperatures and you can log like frequency.
00:23:05
Curt
So like I'm logging at whatever, like 10 milliseconds, but you could log at like a second or 10 seconds.
00:23:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:10
Curt
And yeah, anyways, so crazy valuable. I see why the big important machines do this because it's fantastic for like looking just, know, so I could, I could watch the
00:23:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, for diagnosing.
00:23:22
Curt
Totally. So I could watch the code run and I could watch like the, the lag error um of the servos and I could watch the actual position of the encoders reporting compared to like the position that is telling it to move. And, um, it all basically show that it should be fine.
00:23:36
Curt
Um, so I kept, I kept just like, I changed one thing and I would test it and I would change one thing and i would test it and I changed one thing and I test it and i wasn't really getting anywhere.
00:23:43
jamie peacock
Change things in your code, not on the machine.
00:23:47
Curt
No, yeah, yeah. I changed things to my code.
00:23:47
jamie peacock
yeah
00:23:48
Curt
Like, um yeah, I would change i change the tool to be a sharper tool. And then I changed the feed rate. And then I changed the type of cycle smoothing I was using. And then anyways, I kept, and I was just getting nowhere.
00:23:58
Curt
Like nothing was really all that much better. um And then I went and ran code on like the Saturday it was perfect. And I was like, what the hell did I change?
00:24:09
Curt
So like I went, yeah.
00:24:09
jamie peacock
because it's the Sabbath. So you can only run the machine on Saturdays now.
00:24:12
Curt
So I went,
00:24:14
Curt
dude I hope that's not true because I gotta run it today haven't run it today yet um that would be fucking horrible um the only thing so I oh yeah exactly um
00:24:17
jamie peacock
That would be funny as hell. Because it's limited production because you can only run on Saturdays.
00:24:28
Curt
So I've like racked my brain for like the last two days, not trying to think of what I could have potentially changed and didn't think about. The only two things or two or three things is ah that cycle a 32 smoothing, which by the way, when you're watching like the oscilloscope makes a humongous difference.
00:24:41
jamie peacock
It makes a difference, yeah. was watching your stories.
00:24:43
Curt
It's insane.
00:24:44
jamie peacock
It's...
00:24:45
Curt
Yeah. um
00:24:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was quite impressive.
00:24:48
Curt
So I was pushing the cycle 832 command through Fusion and um the other time, like the time i ran the code and it worked well, I put it on directly from machine. It's just text. It just says cycle 832 bracket and then
00:24:59
jamie peacock
And it's the same text, I'm assuming.
00:25:02
Curt
It's the exact same text.
00:25:03
jamie peacock
ah
00:25:03
Curt
That's one thing I changed. So potentially that. And the other things are mechanical, which I, I would, if I had to put money on any of them, I would say that. So my tail stock, I noticed it was slightly binding.
00:25:14
Curt
Uh, so I'm wondering if that was causing the axis to wind a little, like to do something funky or like try to overshoot.
00:25:15
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:25:22
Curt
Um, potentially that.
00:25:23
jamie peacock
That axis should have way more power than that tailstock could add, like friction-wise.
00:25:26
Curt
Like, yeah. And i i I tested this with like a like a locked up piece and it literally just started grinding the titanium. Like it was two titanium pieces and it just started malling like galling them together.
00:25:33
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:37
Curt
Like it's got gobs of torque. ah So I don't think that's it.
00:25:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:40
Curt
um The other thing is I just snugged up. Like I have a fixture that holds the tubes from the inside. um
00:25:47
jamie peacock
okay
00:25:47
Curt
If I was slightly, if I was slightly loose, it could potentially cause issues. So I checked that too. But other than that, like I can't figure out what the hell I did wrong or did right. and Like I can get it to cut wrong now.
00:25:57
jamie peacock
so
00:25:59
Curt
It'll only do it perfect. So i don't know.
00:26:03
jamie peacock
Should I have access to my NAS from here? i'm So, okay, you enabled the smoothing by going to MDI and enabled you on the controller when you edit the code you added it in the beginning of your code.
00:26:18
Curt
Yeah, I just, yeah, I plop it in there, like, there's special functions, click it, and smoothing, boop.
00:26:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, okay. Yeah, but that puts it at the top of the code.
00:26:22
Curt
Yeah,
00:26:25
Curt
It does, yeah.
00:26:26
jamie peacock
Where's your post puts it a few lines down.
00:26:26
Curt
Well, I put it in the same place. I put it after, like, a ah tool call.
00:26:30
jamie peacock
Oh, did you put it the same place? Okay.
00:26:32
Curt
Yeah, right after a tool call, I plopped it in there. I put it in the exact same place just to rule that out, too, and, yeah, wasn't that.
00:26:34
jamie peacock
Yeah. like Okay, no, no, just curious, because I know mine just sticks a dog, usually puts it at the top. Because I know what my post was saying, and what my machine wanted were not the same, and I modified my post to make them exactly the same.
00:26:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:51
jamie peacock
And I assume you've done the same.
00:26:54
jamie peacock
That it is the exact same string of text.
00:26:54
Curt
Basically, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:26:57
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:57
jamie peacock
Okay, so that's, yeah, because the only thing I could think is where it is putting that in, but if you put it in the same place, it doesn't make any difference.
00:26:58
Curt
Because I only use finishing, really. Yeah.
00:27:06
jamie peacock
Because so my thought there was maybe you're in in inverse time, then you're calling him the infusion calls the smoothing and then carries on. Instead of calling it, then going into inverse time and then running or whatever.
00:27:06
Curt
Well, and the the one...
00:27:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:19
jamie peacock
Or then setting your plane or whatever it is, whatever the lines of code are doing.
00:27:24
Curt
Well, then I noticed one more thing, which I think might make it. I have to test it. but some of these things I don't want to test now because I'm like, well, it's working. I just want to run parts. um
00:27:31
jamie peacock
Don't want to break it, Joe.
00:27:32
Curt
But I will test it just just so I can fix my brain. um I noticed that the tolerance setting in Fusion and the... ah and there's like It's not smoothing because there's a smoothing setting that turned off in Fusion. But um I set them all to like five tenths.
00:27:48
Curt
Um, five tents and fusion. There's two spots. You can set it tolerance and something else tolerance and like path smoothing, but it's not the actual smoothing option.
00:27:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:55
Curt
Anyways, five, five tents, five tents. And then in the control, the finishing, um, like tolerance is also five tents. So they all match. I don't know if that makes a difference, but I've noticed, I'm like, Oh, all those change too.
00:28:08
Curt
And they're all, they all match now and I'm getting perfect results. So I'm like, I wonder if they're happier when they're all together.
00:28:11
jamie peacock
It could be, yeah, wouldn't
00:28:14
Curt
Because the point positions should match.
00:28:16
jamie peacock
it? The point positions should then, yeah, your point positions would then be deviating by 5 tenths.
00:28:16
Curt
The controller would be, yeah.
00:28:24
Curt
Well, and it would, like, the control would be seeing, like, like the look ahead, or not the look ahead, but the path planning in the control should be seeing code that is better optimized for its path planning at that tolerance.
00:28:24
jamie peacock
Uh...
00:28:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:34
Curt
So maybe that has something to do with, but...
00:28:35
jamie peacock
Yes, well, because you're, isn't you're smoothing how far it can deviate from the modeled line? You're smoothing in the toolpath.
00:28:43
Curt
Uh, yes.
00:28:45
jamie peacock
As far as I understand it, that is, so if you've got a curve, you can, ah you put points that can deviate by a maximum of, or the the line between points is a maximum of that many, that many tolerances.
00:28:52
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:57
Curt
Yes, yeah, there's apparently a lot at play, but that's basically it, yeah, yeah.
00:28:57
jamie peacock
Um,
00:29:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, because 832 is full of magic, just by the way.
00:29:05
Curt
Yeah, and it's like, it's not just like smoothing, it's like four different functions that are all playing together, so it's like... that's what I started to realize. I'm like, oh shit. Like you could run a bunch of different cycles and get the same results, but 832 kind of just bulks them all together. And it's like, okay, I'll handle it. You just do that the other things. It's like, okay. right.
00:29:22
jamie peacock
ah Apparently, Amazon's web service services were down to today.
00:29:23
Curt
So.
00:29:27
jamie peacock
That's why Fusion was catching the tism.
00:29:30
Curt
Oh, Fusion uses Amazon web servers.
00:29:31
jamie peacock
Yes. So, well, I don't know.
00:29:32
Curt
Wild.
00:29:33
jamie peacock
Something on the internet was not right today because I couldn't access files for like 30 or 40 minutes.
00:29:38
jamie peacock
Also, Live360 wasn't working. Yeah, noticed a few things were a little bit funky today. But yeah, Fusion, I literally... Sorry.
00:29:38
Curt
Hmm.
00:29:50
jamie peacock
We'll come back. probably won't come back to it so let me do it now uh anyway fusion cortitism wouldn't do it wouldn't post a drilling cycle so i went to reboot fusion and then i couldn't access my file for like 40 minutes it kept saying offline and then i'll try open the file then offline and then online and offline then online yeah it was a little infuriating um yeah um it was very infuriating but yeah cycle 832 is full of freaking magic i was running uh
00:30:01
Curt
Ooh.
00:30:06
Curt
Ooh.
00:30:15
jamie peacock
the little dingle dingles I was machining today. And fuck, I was zooming around there, man, the machine's just smooth. Like stupid fast and yeah, and I like it.
00:30:23
Curt
yeah
00:30:25
jamie peacock
It's on by default now.
00:30:27
Curt
Oh yeah, like and I was i was watching like ah all the lag error and everything on the axis just for funsies and I was like, oh wow, this cycle like it significantly keeps your machine from beating itself up.
00:30:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:37
Curt
So i was like, yeah, this should just be on.
00:30:38
jamie peacock
Well, I mean, I beat my machine up for a year. It should just be on by default. It's like,
00:30:42
Curt
yeah Yeah, it's like, I don't see why you wouldn't.
00:30:43
jamie peacock
I mean, I was surfacing today. I was surfacing in aluminium filled resin.
00:30:50
Curt
I saw that, yeah, it's cool stuff.
00:30:51
jamie peacock
yeah Yeah, dude, it looks amazing. But yeah, making molds.
00:30:54
jamie peacock
I got to make two more tomorrow morning.
00:30:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:30:54
Curt
Hmm.
00:30:56
jamie peacock
But those should be relatively quick. I'm going to program them after the podcast. Material's somewhat prepped. That's just resin with like a something filler. But yeah, are making, so the guys injection mold these parts and they need to cast a silicon o-ring effectively into the pot. So these two molds go together and then the guy's got to still drill the injecting hole.
00:31:16
jamie peacock
then he ejects the resin from both sides or the silicon from both sides and it like goes around and stuff so yeah those are need to be done tomorrow morning by like nine he's coming to fetch them so early morning in the shop tomorrow i made the other little dingle dingle which took 45 minutes to machine those little aluminium dingles because i'm surfacing with the i don't have a small ones i had to surface with a three millimeter flat end mill on those tapers so it's like a 50 micron step down so it's
00:31:42
Curt
yeah
00:31:45
Curt
yeah
00:31:45
jamie peacock
we hear it going at like 1.2 meters a minute so zooming around but it still like takes a while
00:31:53
Curt
On those, um there's like one section that's kind of like wiggle wiggle. It looks like a little kind of bumpy caterpillar. did you Did you surface all that?
00:31:58
jamie peacock
yes yes yep dude one millimeter ball nose worth i think that was 0.15 step over
00:32:02
Curt
It looks pretty. It looks really nice.
00:32:10
Curt
It looked really good. i was like, I wonder if you used like a f-
00:32:11
jamie peacock
It took a good hour to surface with that one mill ball nose. The other side I could get away with the four mill ball nose. So I did.
00:32:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:18
jamie peacock
And that only took like 30 minutes. But yeah, I just let the fucking machine run and do other shit.
00:32:24
Curt
Yeah, looked I was like, that almost looks like a form tool. Like, that was just really clean. I was like, wow, that's thats surface.
00:32:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, that stuff machines beautifully.
00:32:28
Curt
that That was a lot of cycle.
00:32:31
jamie peacock
Like it really, i mean, I spent longer today making a vacuum chuck than I did making in the pots.
00:32:31
Curt
Yeah, look.
00:32:38
jamie peacock
The vacuum chuck took me two and a half hours to make today.
00:32:38
Curt
Hmm.
00:32:41
jamie peacock
But I needed it for this job.
00:32:41
Curt
Nice.
00:32:42
jamie peacock
so And the OP1 was done already like a month ago.
00:32:44
Curt
Cool.
00:32:47
jamie peacock
If anyone's wondering what the explosions are, we don't live in a war zone. We live in a country where Indian people live. And it's Diwali.
00:32:54
Curt
ah
00:32:54
jamie peacock
So they are burning. They're effectively blowing money up in the sky. Because it's Festival of the Lights or some cuck. Thank goodness my dogs are not panicky anymore.
00:33:05
jamie peacock
um Anyway, I've been making parts for Dick.
00:33:06
Curt
Oh.
00:33:09
jamie peacock
His name is Richard and he will be referred to here for this deck because he's a fucking deck.
00:33:10
Curt
Ooh.
00:33:14
jamie peacock
um Yeah, parts that when I saw the drawing initially, I said no. And then the guy got dropped anyway. anyway So my customer's name is not deck. His customer's name stick. This customer is going to get an invoice for my time because i I feel bad invoicing my customer.
00:33:29
jamie peacock
He's no, just invoice. like, dude, we're two days in on just the lathe work. Do you really want me to invoice you? do you want me invoice Dick? And then when doesn't pay, just send debt collectors off from for shits and giggles.
00:33:40
jamie peacock
Like, if I don't get the money, I don't get the money. i just want to fuck him around. ah He's actually been that company has been added to the blacklist for Jspec Engineering and for CD, which is Cole's company.
00:33:51
jamie peacock
If it is work for that company, it doesn't matter where it comes from. If we see a drawing with that name on it, the work is rejected because they don't have a quality department they have a fault finding department because their t's and c's are such that uh you're on 30 days if they find a fault with one of your parts you get pushed to 90 days so they will find a fault with every single part you deliver it to them just so they can push you to 90 days and i'm not interested in their
00:34:01
Curt
Right, right, right.
00:34:17
jamie peacock
so now i'm busy making these things bertha did a freaking bang up job like super impressed all the parts are like within 10 15 microns uh on diameters like super impressed with how well bertha was holding tolerance and then i needed to face groove
00:34:27
Curt
Nice.
00:34:36
jamie peacock
so i used old face grooving tool which is a 6.8 millimeter drill bit that i turned into a d-bit and proceeded to face-screw out a whole lot of aluminium from 42 diameter out to like 115.
00:34:43
Curt
Okay.
00:34:49
jamie peacock
Like a stupid, stupid amount, or like 20 mils deep.
00:34:50
Curt
Ooh.
00:34:53
jamie peacock
Face-screw in comma one step downs. Back and forth.
00:34:58
Curt
Oh, that's a lot.
00:34:59
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, it worked pretty much. It actually worked really, really well. And then come in with a lefty boring bore, or the normal boring bore so could do an undercut as well. But yeah, those parts took me the better part of two days to...
00:35:08
Curt
Hmm.
00:35:11
jamie peacock
to run them all through Bertha because they came in as square.
00:35:14
Curt
Hmm.
00:35:15
jamie peacock
So they had to first be put in the forejaw and made round in op 1 and then held in soft jaws, which I had to make because I needed aluminium soft jaws so wouldn't mold parts.
00:35:18
Curt
Hmm.
00:35:26
jamie peacock
Made aluminium soft jaws, boarded them to hold the parts, did all of the one, then boarded another section, did all of the other ones. So those are now waiting to go in the mill, but also don't really feel like machining them because it's for dick.
00:35:38
jamie peacock
Then he can choke on one. So, like yeah. I've got to put an anchor point back on on the jang plate. Put a pallet into that. Spin the pallet and ma machine it that I can get the center point.
00:35:50
jamie peacock
Then take that off, put it into one of my other anchor points, probe that round boss, and then machine the fixture so that when it goes back in the anchor point on the fourth, it runs concentric without me having to worry about any of that.
00:36:00
Curt
Right.
00:36:02
jamie peacock
So I've got some round pallets that are going to get violated for this job, another set of them. And then it's just a case of running through all the setups. They're all programmed. It's just I don't want to.
00:36:13
jamie peacock
I'd rather do more exciting things like, i don't know, fucking sleep.
00:36:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:16
jamie peacock
Like, I'm really just listening to do this.
00:36:17
Curt
to Yeah,
00:36:21
jamie peacock
They want three three sets of parts. And I'm like, dudes, that gives me one set of parts on the impeller. And that, feel like, is not enough set part.
00:36:32
Curt
yeah.
00:36:33
jamie peacock
because we're doing a little we're doing it very jankly so it really you need more than one setup part but that's all i have that's all i have and i will make it work and then they can go down i don't have to listen to them again
00:36:33
Curt
yeah
00:36:48
jamie peacock
yeah not not interested in their shit so what have you been doing on home assistance
00:36:49
Curt
oh Yeah, fair.
Home Assistant and System Upgrades
00:36:55
Curt
ah So for the longest time, like Ive Holmes isn't running on a razz-
00:36:57
jamie peacock
actually hang on where it once one sec one sec we're gonna shout out our patreons before i forget before we get too late in the podcast yes so the patrons on the podcast make the wheels on the podcast go round and round special thanks to all of our top tier patrons jade from benchmark 20 luke from fantastic aj from subtract manufacturing and 18 other companies ej from nocturnal welding jason s and the aussie machinist um
00:37:03
Curt
Ooh, good idea.
00:37:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, thank you to all of our Patreons. You're going to make it so that we don't sleep on the street at IMTS. And yeah, make the wheels on the podcast go round and round. And yeah, lots of fun.
00:37:35
jamie peacock
ah Speaking of AJ from Subtract and 18 other companies, Their podcast that's coming out this week, Taps and Patience, um Harrison started listening to the podcast and is very excited to hear us giving AJ shit about all the companies that he is part of.
00:37:52
jamie peacock
So it was quite entertaining to to listen to that today. But yeah, cool to hear that Harrison is also listening to the podcast.
00:38:00
Curt
Oh, yeah. Hello, hello.
00:38:01
jamie peacock
But yeah, Patreons also get access to the after show where Kurt and I discuss other things. And I normally get shouted at by my wife when she edits the the podcast because of the things say on the after show.
00:38:12
jamie peacock
Because it turns out the first 30 seconds are free as a preview for the after show. So I need to wait till 30 seconds before I get totally unhinged. But yeah, anyway, thank you, Patreons.
00:38:24
jamie peacock
And yeah, back to the show. So Kurt and Home Assistant.
00:38:26
Curt
but Back to the show. So, ah for the longest time, I've been running a Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi. I think I'm going to upgrade it because I want to do a lot of AI, like, camera recognition stuff right now.
00:38:37
Curt
And I tried to throw that on the Pi just for funsies. Because I have two cameras.
00:38:40
jamie peacock
i'm assuming I'm assuming you're the Kurt that Sanders was talking about. Okay.
00:38:45
Curt
Yeah, I was talking with him a little bit. And then it just it kind of motivated me. I'm like, I should tweak this a little more. Because I have like i have cameras set up and everything is working. And I'm like, ah, good enough. And I left it be. And now, like, I want to piss around with this more.
00:38:55
Curt
Like, I want...
00:38:55
jamie peacock
So ah what ah power are you running on?
00:38:59
Curt
I think it's a Pi 4. Pi 4. Yeah, yeah.
00:39:02
jamie peacock
Well, there's a problem. ah Par 5, you can get the NVMe hats, or the M.2 hats, and then you can, my neighbor's running one, one of the AI accelerators.
00:39:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:15
Curt
Yeah. I was going to buy one of the Coral accelerators.
00:39:16
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, you've got a Coral.
00:39:18
Curt
um Like, that's a Google one. ah Works really good with Frigate. um But i was like, if I'm going to buy... Like, I'm going to move this... because want to be writing to an SD card. It's just going like... It's eventually going to crap out.
00:39:27
jamie peacock
Oh no, dude, I haven't write written to an SD card in probably a year and a half, well, since installed it.
00:39:28
Curt
I'm like, I'm just...
00:39:33
Curt
sure you yeah you could put an ssd in there but like by that time buy a pc like if you're buying a pi 5 and then you're buying an ssd and then you're buying an nvme hat then you're buying the actual coral accelerator like just buy a pc and then buy a m.2 coral accelerator plug it all in done so
00:39:34
jamie peacock
ah put an external SSD, yeah.
00:39:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah. the reason to not run a PC is PowerDraw.
00:39:55
Curt
dude it's like 13 watts it's fuck all
00:39:57
jamie peacock
for a PC.
00:39:58
Curt
Yeah, for an S13, like a mini BS13.
00:40:00
jamie peacock
Okay, fair enough.
00:40:01
Curt
They draw no power. It goes mini P's. The same thing. i was just like, I don't care about power.
00:40:03
jamie peacock
That's why I didn't go the PC routes, because ah PC routes, the things on all the time, i was going to use just an old Dell um refurb unit, but there it's a good couple couple hundred watts all the time, whereas the power is 20 watts.
00:40:04
Curt
I'm drawing thousands of watts. Yeah.
00:40:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:20
jamie peacock
I should probably take a piece of paper off of the cooling fan on mar my home assistant.
00:40:26
Curt
Literally, if i pay if I play Cyberpunk on my desktop PC here for like an hour, I'm going to blow through whatever water anything is going to use for a month.
00:40:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:33
Curt
like This thing will draw like a kilowatt.
00:40:34
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yes.
00:40:36
Curt
Anyways, ah so think I'm going to move to a mini PC because it gives me option to like just do all kinds of but different stuff.
00:40:36
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:40:42
Curt
So um I got the cameras working. um pulled I had them on a few different apps and one in Frigate. I pulled them all into Frigate, even USB ones, which is a pain in the ass. But now they're all in Frigate. ah which means you can do like nice object detection. Like I can make sure it's, cause I have one that watches my step and I want it to be like, oh, when I see it, when you see a package, just let me know there's a package there.
00:41:01
Curt
um And like, when you see a person come onto my property, let me know it's a person. And like, if you see a dog, don't worry about it.
00:41:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, i'm go so I've got that set up for my front yard, person detection in the on my front facing camera that it'll notify if i there's a button on my home system that will then notify me ah that motion or person detected in driveway, which gets very frustrating when it just won't shut up.
00:41:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:21
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
00:41:23
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's on a toggle so I turn it on and off. But also the frigate integration is a bit better than the other integration i have because the frigate I can move my panning camera ah from Frigate while seeing a live view, whereas the live view on my dashboard doesn't let me do that.
00:41:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:42
Curt
Well, the nice thing about like frigate is most of those like motion detection cameras, they like, they just detect motion in the screen. They start recording.
00:41:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:47
Curt
Whereas like frigate detects motion, then it's, it ramps up the the frames per second and then it analyzes it and be like, oh, it's a tree moving and it doesn't worry about it.
00:41:51
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:41:54
Curt
Or it's like, oh, that's a person with a crowbar. Like I'm going worry about that. And like, and you can do cool stuff like, like detect umbrellas, detect like weird things you wouldn't think about.
00:41:58
jamie peacock
Yeah. So...
00:42:02
jamie peacock
so my neighbor was accidentally logging every car that drove past because it was detect a car he was looking in his driver it was detecting every car and we had a log of every car there was a break in down the road like oh no they came past 15 minutes ago
00:42:08
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, fair. Yeah, I did that.
00:42:17
Curt
Yeah. and you can, like, do license plate detection. Like, you do all kinds of really cool shit with it.
00:42:20
jamie peacock
yeah no it's really impressive what you can do speaking of home assistance i want to build a thing
00:42:27
jamie peacock
So it's a little ah little rectangular light, probably, that you need to feed 24 volts, and you need to feed one other signal.
00:42:27
Curt
Okay.
00:42:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:38
jamie peacock
And then all of a sudden, you've got machine uptime calculation. If it's on, the machine is on, because it has 24 volts now.
00:42:43
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:42:48
jamie peacock
And if the input is on, it means your green light is on.
00:42:52
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:42:53
jamie peacock
So I think I might be sending some peace sending away for some PCBs. to just make a smart, it's effectively just a smart, um, poll lights, fucking, can't remember what they called now.
00:42:58
Curt
that'd be cool. like
00:43:06
jamie peacock
Shit.
00:43:08
Curt
Oh, yeah, like so ah status light or whatever.
00:43:09
jamie peacock
What
00:43:10
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:10
jamie peacock
Status lights, there's another name that's eluding me now.
00:43:13
Curt
tower lighter yeah
00:43:13
jamie peacock
Anyway, I need one, yeah, tower lights. So I need one for the Goodway. And I would like to log up time on all my machines. So Emco and Goodway, the LK does it already.
00:43:26
jamie peacock
So I was thinking of just spinning up a custom board with a little ESP on it and, because ESP home is just full of magic.
00:43:33
Curt
oh that's my favorite yeah that's my favorite yeah
00:43:34
jamie peacock
Dude, like I walk into the workshop, it's a enable Ironman mode and all the lights turn on. That's freaking great. So
00:43:41
Curt
I'm like, there's, there's so many, like there's human presence detection. Like there is things that people don't even understand are available in like home automation nowadays where it's like, you can come home, they can analyze your face and then it can be like, oh, that was you.
00:43:45
jamie peacock
and yeah
00:43:49
jamie peacock
sorry
00:43:52
Curt
i won't record the video of you driving into your driveway because i was you. And like, that's so many cool things.
00:43:57
jamie peacock
So my neighbor's got an ESP in his gate motor and he's got one of the human detecting ones, the one millimeter wave boards that literally tells you how many people are standing in your driveway.
00:44:04
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:44:08
jamie peacock
ah It logs what the state of the gate is because the gate controller flashes the LED depending on what it's doing.
00:44:08
Curt
yeah
00:44:15
jamie peacock
um He can then control his gate from home assistant, which is funny as hell. So I'll watch him take his phone out, try open the gate and I've got a button for his gate. so i'll just open his gate before he can get to it on his phone it's quite entertaining um and then he's also got like holiday mode lockout and stuff where you close a relay and then nothing on that gate works until you open that relay again the idea behind that is you open the thing you bridge that you close it and you leave and no one can operate your gate remotely i don't want my gates on the internet so i haven't done that but
00:44:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:42
Curt
Yeah. Well, that's...
00:44:48
Curt
and that's that's the whole reason i went to Home Assistant is because like I don't want all this shit. like I want it local. like There's no reason all my stuff has to go to a cloud service.
00:44:53
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:44:56
Curt
And that's the reason main reason I jumped to Home Assistant.
00:44:56
jamie peacock
Yep, and then back down.
00:44:58
Curt
And the fact that I can use any device that works with it.
00:44:59
jamie peacock
Yep. Yep.
00:45:01
Curt
And it's like, okay, now I've just... I don't have to subscribe to your stupid $10 a month service to turn my lights on. I can just... Yeah.
00:45:08
jamie peacock
Actually, speaking of that, I need to go and fix the the pool a smart breaker because it disconnected from home system.
00:45:08
Curt
So, that's...
00:45:14
Curt
Hmm.
00:45:15
jamie peacock
I need to just poke it with a big stick until it works because then ah I have it set up that when it gets switched on from the home system app, it runs for 15 minutes and turns off. That way I don't run it i don't pump.
00:45:27
jamie peacock
The automation is called pumping water in a circle for no reason because that is my opinion of swimming pools. I don't think we've swum. think if I've swum twice this year so far, it's a lot.
00:45:39
jamie peacock
Like I will get in that swimming pool like all of four times a year.
00:45:40
Curt
yeah no
00:45:42
jamie peacock
I reckon we put fish and then we can at least go anywhere to catch fish.
00:45:44
Curt
i was just gonna say jamie's fish pond yeah
00:45:47
jamie peacock
Dude, the day my mother-in-law falls over, ah fucking throw fish in there.
00:45:54
jamie peacock
Celebratory fucking go to the dam, scoop a bunch of fish and put them in the pool. It's a fish pond from that day on.
00:46:01
Curt
um Oh, and I will say that because a ton of people, I have ah a few of those like Wyze cameras.
00:46:01
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:46:06
jamie peacock
yes
00:46:06
Curt
There is a site called thingino.com.
00:46:10
Curt
I'll link it in the show notes. um And they have firmware that you can put on those cameras that just like completely unlocks them and you can use them at home assistant because yeah, they're a cheap camera and they don't work with home assistant.
00:46:16
jamie peacock
Oh, nice. Yeah.
00:46:19
Curt
ah But yeah, the firmware is like loaded onto an SD card, put SD card in camera, turn it on and it reflashes everything.
00:46:24
jamie peacock
So it's not okay.
00:46:25
Curt
It's fantastic.
Operating System Dilemmas
00:46:26
Curt
Yeah. So.
00:46:26
jamie peacock
Speaking of a of computer things, I need buy an NVMe SSD.
00:46:32
Curt
Whatcha building?
00:46:33
jamie peacock
I am taking the one that is in my work PC out and putting a new one in and I'm going to switch to Linux and if it's a fuck up with Fusion, I can just go, I can revert back instantly.
00:46:44
jamie peacock
But I've had enough of Windows.
00:46:47
Curt
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
00:46:48
jamie peacock
i've had enough i figured it's like literally 25 for another ssd i'll just order one switch to a linux distro if i'm happy i run it if i'm not i'll revert back to windows spamware
00:47:00
Curt
yeah Let me know how that goes, because I've seriously been thinking of just running a virtual machine for Fusion and just, yeah.
00:47:05
jamie peacock
yeah that's yeah that that is my thing because right now like windows 11 is just it's intolerable the constant pop-ups for
00:47:12
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. so
00:47:15
jamie peacock
like, oh, use OneDrive, fuck you and your OneDrive. Like, they're now moving your shit off your computer onto OneDrive for you. It's a no, just just go away.
00:47:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:27
jamie peacock
What's interesting is the uptick of Windows seven users now, now that Windows 10 support is ended.
00:47:30
Curt
yeah
00:47:32
jamie peacock
It's freaking great. I was like, Nope, we're going back to the good one. Like, if we're not going to get security updates, then screw you, we'll go to the good one.
00:47:35
Curt
yeah i don't care it's like that's and that i that's why bought well i'm like if i buy windows maybe it'll be less spam wary but it's like xbox pass i don't have an xbox nor do i care like i can go in and alter all these things so they never bug me again but it's like why like why do i have to do this on paid software like
00:47:50
jamie peacock
no yeah i will literally go to mint or ubuntu or one of those that are more like user-friendly linuxes for day-to-day but yeah i'm seriously considering just uh just doing it just buying out the ssd if it doesn't work but there's a deal on my home assistant like if i don't like it
00:48:03
Curt
yeah
00:48:10
Curt
Well, and the fact that Steam works on Linux now and like works better, it's like, okay, yeah, like games, Linux.
00:48:15
jamie peacock
yeah Well, this this PC we're on right now is a 8th gen R5 and can't upgrade Windows 11. The problem comes in when I need to use Fusion on this computer.
00:48:26
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:29
jamie peacock
It's either cool, I'm going VM into my machine in the workshop, which now needs to always be on if I want to VM into it.
00:48:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:36
jamie peacock
It's like, this is not really fucking cool.
00:48:36
Curt
yeah Yeah.
00:48:38
jamie peacock
Like, I don't want to replace this hardware. This hardware is perfectly adequate.
00:48:43
jamie peacock
This was literally my gaming PC until I stopped playing games.
00:48:43
Curt
yeah
00:48:48
Curt
yeah
00:48:48
jamie peacock
Oh, God, yeah. The fact that Microsoft annoyed me to no end. So I might, well, I'm probably going to do the Linux thing and then swear at Linux for a bit.
00:48:59
jamie peacock
But I think it might. There is actually a, someone sent it to me. Shit. I think it's actually open on my phone. Running Fusion on Linux. There's a, there's a workaround for it.
00:49:10
Curt
I'm
00:49:12
jamie peacock
And I'm kind of tempted.
00:49:13
Curt
not still looking at this. I would pay, like...
00:49:15
jamie peacock
only issue i have is i can't remember my google password so that's the only challenge no yeah
00:49:22
Curt
I wish, I wish, I mean, Fusion will probably never port over to Linux, is just not enough users, but like, I would pay twice the subscription if it just worked on Linux. Like, I don't care. That's the only thing keeping me tied to Windows is Fusion, so, yeah.
00:49:34
jamie peacock
yeah windows is just it's getting worse and worse every freaking week I'm assuming my PC downstairs can't upgrade Windows 11 either, because that's a frickin' refurb from like five years ago.
00:49:39
Curt
I'm curious to see how you're.
00:49:46
jamie peacock
So that's yeah it's probably like a second gen R3 or something.
00:49:51
Curt
Yeah. Well, let me hear how it goes. i'm I'm curious. You could be my canary, Nicole, mine.
00:49:54
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. I'll go down to call mine. How did you your printer upgrades go? Remember a few months ago, discussing you bought a new extruder, and then today I was thinking about it.
00:50:05
Curt
Yep.
00:50:07
jamie peacock
We haven't spoken about that much since then. assume it still works.
00:50:10
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:50:10
jamie peacock
and it's It's working so you don't care about it anymore.
00:50:12
Curt
Yeah. It works well enough that I just don't care. Like, it's off my radar again. Because, like, if I want to print a thing, I put it on and it prints it. And it comes out. mean, it's no bamboo. It's not fast. But it's dependable.
00:50:23
Curt
So I know if I put it on and go to sleep, it's going to be there in the morning.
00:50:23
jamie peacock
Well, that's... suck yeah the beefcake. It's printing, well, just finished printing those TPU dinguses. And then there was something else I had to, oh yeah, i needed to model these seals or figure out what I'm doing with this.
00:50:38
jamie peacock
But yeah, it just, it works. It works well enough that I don't worry too much.
00:50:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:44
jamie peacock
Like, there was something I needed to print out a PTG and I can't remember what it was.
00:50:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:48
jamie peacock
me Can't be that important.
00:50:52
Curt
Yeah. yeah i don't know.
00:50:52
jamie peacock
knock Yeah.
00:50:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:50:53
Curt
Eventually I'll probably get a printer, but I just, it does the, it does what I need to do right now.
00:50:56
jamie peacock
you
00:50:57
Curt
So it was like, and like, as long as, as long as a print takes less than like,
00:50:58
jamie peacock
That's the thing like, yeah.
00:51:03
Curt
a night i don't really care if it takes if it's done in an hour i mean yeah it would be cool to be done in 20 minutes for some things but for most of my stuff i'm like i can wait and an evening for it i don't care that's almost that's kind of how i think i'm like i can hit go and go to bed and wake up and i know it's probably going to be good like 99 chance it's going to be fine so
00:51:11
jamie peacock
if you can put it on there and reliably print it, who cares how long it takes as long as it reliably prints. Yeah.
00:51:23
jamie peacock
You're not a production printing shop.
00:51:26
Curt
totally no totally exactly
00:51:27
jamie peacock
yeah I am I'm resin printing shit again but not the point had to change resins which I was annoyed about yeah
00:51:32
Curt
Well, and honestly, if i have if I have a part that's like, if I have a part that matters, I'll just put it on my resin because it's so much nicer to have like dead accurate parts.
00:51:41
jamie peacock
yeah I've switched now to running Creality's just standard resin because it's all I can get locally because the ship got turned around with any cubic resin or some bullshit like that so
00:51:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:46
Curt
Hmm.
00:51:51
Curt
Hmm.
00:51:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, I had to change resin brands and now I've got to print another bunch of stuff. think to print seven more parts. I need to slice them, except the slicer is on the computer in the workshop and I'm not going there this evening so the guy can wait.
00:52:05
jamie peacock
he phoned me and says, yeah, what's happening with this order?
00:52:06
Curt
Nice, nice, nice, nice.
00:52:08
jamie peacock
I'm like, what order, you You haven't paid a deposit. i haven't got anything in writing. I have printed 12 things for him, but like, sorry, I'm out of pocket already. He's sitting at like $150. How's
00:52:20
jamie peacock
pass some deposit there, bro? If you want your shit urgently. Like, you just saying, oh, go ahead That means fuck all.
00:52:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:27
jamie peacock
So I need to send him my terms and conditions.
00:52:32
Curt
Yep, good idea.
00:52:32
jamie peacock
I do tend to be a little too YOLO every now and again.
00:52:37
Curt
Yeah, well.
00:52:37
jamie peacock
which can be problematic. So what are you what are you pondering about Swiss machines?
00:52:41
Curt
Sweet.
00:52:45
Curt
So Sile keeps bugging me now that i've now that I've thrown the little bit of like chum in the water, being like, yeah, I'm interested in a Swiss.
00:52:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:51
Curt
They're just, my distributor's all over me. Because obviously he wants to bring one in. So like every week he's like, I could do better on the price. i could I could do better on the price. If you order now, because...
00:53:00
jamie peacock
Let him keep doing better till he gets to zero dollars.
00:53:04
Curt
That's kind of what I like. He's already dropped significantly. So I'm like, okay, well, A, that's kind of not confidence inspiring. I don't like when a company keeps being like, we can do better.
00:53:09
jamie peacock
yeah
00:53:12
Curt
We can do better. We can do it. Just give me the best. Like, I'm not going to.
00:53:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, I think they kind of desperately want to have you tested for them.
00:53:14
Curt
Anyways. So. so
00:53:20
Curt
I, uh, yeah, it's going to be the first in Canada. And was like, dude, I don't want to do that. So he knows I don't want to be the first. So now he's like, well, I like, could you?
00:53:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:27
Curt
So anyways, they, they've reduced the price and they offer it with a Syntec control as well. But after this rambling of this podcast, I don't think I'll ever go to another control that doesn't have a scope, especially on like a Swiss where something I'd be like, want to, you know, watch like whatever.
00:53:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, no.
00:53:38
jamie peacock
yeah
00:53:40
jamie peacock
Well, yeah, you want to see what it's especially if you have a bar feed issues, you want to be able to see what's going on.
00:53:46
Curt
Totally. Right. So anyways, I gotta, I gotta bug them.
00:53:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, because I would assume that, yeah, that would be interesting that the bar feeder follows up assuming it would need to have a Siemens motor.
00:53:49
Curt
I won't.
00:53:55
jamie peacock
Or would it be just ending up?
00:53:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:57
jamie peacock
Hey, go here, friend. Like, I would be very curious to know that integration works.
00:54:02
Curt
Well, I don't even know if they have a bar feeder like in the works or anything yet. Like I don't, I don't know.
00:54:08
jamie peacock
yeah
00:54:10
Curt
And I don't know what it can accommodate in, in its like tube, like it's headstock by itself. Cause obviously for the first start, I'm just going to like, I'll hand feed cause like poor.
00:54:14
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:54:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:54:19
Curt
um So like, and then I can always buy a feed, but I also don't,
00:54:21
jamie peacock
Well, not with the way their price is going.
00:54:23
Curt
Oh, well, the yeah. I also don't want to like hose myself and get a feeder.
00:54:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:54:27
Curt
That's not going to work well. And yeah, I billion things.
00:54:29
jamie peacock
Sure.
00:54:30
Curt
So we'll see.
00:54:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no, that's...
00:54:32
Curt
Um,
00:54:32
jamie peacock
Okay, just pondering the Swiss maneuvers.
00:54:36
Curt
Yeah, and like I got it. Yeah, I don't know. it's I need a lathe, and the price is going down to the point where it's like, well, nothing. like Now it's getting scary. Now it's getting cheap like like in my X5 category of cheap.
00:54:48
Curt
like So I was like, was getting cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. So like... Anyway.
00:54:55
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:54:55
Curt
It's not my silver bullet. It's not my silver bullet, but it's the next logical step.
00:54:58
jamie peacock
No, it's not. And it's the next logical step, but it's also potentially challenge like the XFiveOS.
00:55:08
Curt
Oh, yeah. Hells.
00:55:09
jamie peacock
That's the problem, yeah.
00:55:09
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah. There's a difference between spending a quarter million dollars on a brand new like Citizen and a bar feeder or, you know, $70,000 on a style. Like you're you're sacrificing $130,000 in QC support service sanity.
00:55:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:55:23
jamie peacock
Service. Yeah.
00:55:26
Curt
Like, yeah, I'm don't be disillusionable about that. Is that a word?
00:55:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, the sanity port kind of important.
00:55:30
Curt
i don't know. Whatever.
00:55:33
Curt
Yeah, so we'll see. We'll see. Anyway, yeah, that covers like cover that. I'll keep everyone updated how that progresses. maybe Maybe they'll get down to a point where it'll just be free if they just keep ignoring them.
00:55:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, keep ignoring them and you'll become a, what's it, an influencer for them.
00:55:50
Curt
Ooh, an influencer, yeah.
00:55:50
jamie peacock
Or what's it, it's a brand partner.
00:55:55
Curt
Ah, yes, boom. Yeah, everything will be...
00:55:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, there we go.
00:55:58
Curt
I'll start slinging it, slinging it yeah
00:56:02
jamie peacock
geez, yeah. Yeah, I was watching one their videos this week and I'm like, oh my, yeah.
00:56:04
Curt
Anyway.
00:56:08
jamie peacock
It it was interesting. It was five misconceptions or lies that shop owners, believe or something to that effect but yeah it's the five or four of them standing there going boom boom i'm like guys this is fucking cringy not as bad as listening mcgee on the fucking talking about the throne on the x7 but uh yeah
00:56:24
Curt
I just.
00:56:31
Curt
I just watched Donnie's videos and don't ah just ignore <unk>ra the other guy.
00:56:33
jamie peacock
yeah his stuff's amazing yeah yeah no no dude his stuff's a proper good
00:56:37
Curt
yeah Yeah, his stuff is fantastic. I was kind of jealous of those little ah those little ah tech decks he was making.
00:56:45
jamie peacock
Skateboards, yeah.
00:56:47
Curt
Yeah, i was like, oh, I kind of want to go across Canada to that show just to be like, hey, can I have one?
00:56:51
jamie peacock
Can I have one? I was actually, we went to... When was it? It was Saturday evening. So we had my nephew's birthday. And then the guy, the owner of the pizza place up the road phoned me to ask about my flat.
00:57:05
jamie peacock
So we went, I'm like, oh, we'll come past for a drink. So we went past there for drink on the way home, sat down there, and then a dude and his son pitched up, and the son's got a tech deck. was busy doing the tech deck things on the menu.
00:57:15
Curt
Sick.
00:57:16
jamie peacock
I'm like, ah, it's so cool. haven't seen those in years.
00:57:18
Curt
Ah, nature's healing. Yeah, exactly.
00:57:21
jamie peacock
yeah
00:57:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:22
jamie peacock
andja We ended up sitting and talking shit the owner of the of the restaurant.
00:57:27
Curt
Nice, nice.
00:57:27
jamie peacock
It's a bit of a problem that their food's good. Like this week, I had a free half kg of prawns and then a free pizza because we keep winning the Quiz Nights on a Wednesday.
00:57:35
Curt
Oh.
00:57:38
Curt
yeah Bronze.
00:57:39
jamie peacock
like It's kind of become not funny at this point. back We win every freaking week. So yeah, free food. Well, not free food.
00:57:47
jamie peacock
I pay entry fee, but at least the food lately has been, or the prize has been more than the entry fee.
00:57:47
Curt
Nice.
00:57:54
jamie peacock
But it's ah it's a lot of fun doing the Quiznight. My crazy wife really enjoys Quiznight, so we will indulge.
00:57:58
Curt
Sick.
00:58:01
Curt
Yeah, you guys both seem pretty pretty type A, so.
00:58:06
jamie peacock
I don't know what that means, and I'm not going to look it up. I'm going to take it as a compliment.
00:58:09
Curt
Just like, yeah, it it is. In your sense, it is. Yeah, you seem very extroverted.
00:58:13
jamie peacock
well
00:58:14
Curt
Yeah, very extroverted. Yeah.
00:58:16
jamie peacock
Ah, no. I don't like people.
00:58:17
Curt
No? No.
00:58:18
jamie peacock
When I'm around people, I'll be extroverted, but although I prefer not to be around people, like, full stop.
00:58:24
Curt
Yeah, I just get sweaty and nervous and hide.
00:58:27
jamie peacock
Danica was, yeah, well, yeah. Yeah, Danica's very, very extroverted. Ooh, no.
00:58:35
Curt
ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:36
jamie peacock
The Gaming Matron is out of stock.
00:58:40
Curt
Oh, no.
00:58:42
jamie peacock
Email me when it's back in stock.
00:58:43
Curt
el keep Those keep getting cheaper too, by the way.
00:58:45
jamie peacock
Well, that's what I was just checking.
00:58:45
Curt
ah The new version's coming out. Yeah. Yeah, they keep going down.
00:58:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, i was just talking about the out of stock currently. Because I've got to sit in a car for 12 hours in December and then 12 hours back.
00:58:55
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:58:56
jamie peacock
So I figured that would be a good excuse to buy one of those so that life doesn't suck.
00:59:01
Curt
Perfectly.
00:59:02
jamie peacock
Because if I'm not looking out the window, i can't see what Danik is about to drive us into.
00:59:08
jamie peacock
Because she's going to get distracted them and I'm going to be terrified.
00:59:09
Curt
Can, uh.
00:59:12
Curt
I can replay some Vice City. That's currently what I'm replaying.
00:59:19
jamie peacock
GTA 3 is my go-to replay.
00:59:19
Curt
yeah Nice. Yeah, yeah, ah
00:59:22
jamie peacock
Yeah. that That or Portal. like There's a bunch of games I want to play, but also... We'll see. There's a little bit of spare money after Bertha leaves, so might just pick up one of those things.
00:59:30
Curt
yeah.
00:59:34
jamie peacock
I'm trying to be a responsible adult.
00:59:35
Curt
I told you. Just sleep on the street for IMTS and use that money to buy yourself a gaming thing.
00:59:41
jamie peacock
no No. The wife literally will not let me.
00:59:45
Curt
Ah, right wife, yes.
00:59:46
jamie peacock
She doesn't want to sleep on the street for
00:59:46
Curt
Yeah, she who's sleeping in the street.
Personal Anecdotes and Family Events
00:59:48
jamie peacock
IMTS.
00:59:48
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:59:49
jamie peacock
Because my dickhead brother has now gone and put his wedding the weekend after IMTS.
00:59:49
Curt
Yeah, fair.
00:59:54
Curt
Nah. Yeah, what a jerk.
00:59:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, so we're rushing back after IMTS for my brother's wedding. Which is tad annoying.
00:59:59
Curt
Tell him to have it in America. Yeah.
01:00:03
jamie peacock
My brother's words were, if he never ever has to sit on a long flight again, it will be too soon. If he never has international travel, like he goes to China once a year with his boss and, uh, him and Pam went to South America on holiday.
01:00:11
Curt
Yeah, it's a haul. Fair enough.
01:00:20
jamie peacock
And he's like, Nope, fuck that noise. Not interested. He was overseas when the gold price took a dip and he had all the silver process or the dollar, the dollar took a dip while he was overseas. And he had a bunch of money and dollars. He's like, oh shit.
01:00:33
jamie peacock
I can't move it out of his accounts because he's in a foreign country. so he can't do the verifications and whatnot so yeah he was stressing so he came back and he bought a bunch of silver like a little goblin and puts it and put it in his safe like his father-in-law is making fun of him for being a little goblin and hoarding silver
01:00:42
Curt
Oh, yeah.
01:00:49
Curt
Oh boy.
01:00:56
Curt
Cool. Well, should do the Google boxes?
01:00:57
jamie peacock
okay what have you been googling yeah let's do google boxes that's how i got onto the gaming thing um
01:01:02
Curt
Nice. Okay. I wrote mine down so I wouldn't forget.
01:01:04
jamie peacock
Oh wait, there we go.
01:01:05
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:01:05
jamie peacock
Before we get to Google boxes, uh, Autodesk Fusion 360 for Linux. It's a GitHub article by Crinkfly.
01:01:18
jamie peacock
Let me see. Copy link. I'm going to send this to, uh, there will be a link in the doobly-doo for this. Um, because it's very, very interesting. So yeah, Roger sent that to me.
01:01:29
Curt
Raw.
01:01:29
jamie peacock
I don't know if Roger's listening to podcasts these days or not. Um, for the podcast danica hasn't got uh whatsapp on this computer because rebooted let's go see who she's chatting to quickly da a copy copy link yeah i've been called an adulterer this whole week because i watched uh gen v without her yes um for larynx there we go
01:01:56
Curt
Ah.
01:02:02
Curt
Ooh, sick. Okay. Yay, Lynx.
01:02:05
jamie peacock
There we go. I've misspelled fusion, but I don't really care.
01:02:06
Curt
Crying, flying? Yeah.
01:02:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, so that got sent through to me by Uncle Roger, and I haven't actually looked into it properly, but I will do my readings.
01:02:16
Curt
Uncle Roger? Nice.
01:02:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm Mr. Uncle Roger.
01:02:18
Curt
Oh, yeah.
01:02:19
jamie peacock
His name is Roger, so everybody's like, Uncle Roger!
01:02:20
Curt
yeah
01:02:23
Curt
that Nice.
01:02:25
jamie peacock
I actually haven't spoken to him for a little while, but yeah, anyway, heat the I'm going to give this a try.
01:02:26
Curt
Sweet.
01:02:32
jamie peacock
Running that, and then I was looking at Midway Tools to tool up the new lane, looking for for nook pinouts for that encoder with no luck looking at ssds uh looking up argus stuff locally trying to buy argus bearings which are not what i'm going to fit in here i actually have some of the argus filaments and very tempted to use it it just needs to be uh basically baked in the freaking oven because it's hydroscopic as hell um and then i'm looking at direct cables direct cable which is place you can order cable online
01:02:53
Curt
Yeah.
01:03:00
Curt
Hmm.
01:03:06
jamie peacock
which I need to actually do because I need a bunch of five core shielded cable for my home switches for home slash limit switches because the machine has limits which is so I may as well use them
01:03:07
Curt
Hmm.
01:03:13
Curt
Cool, cool, cool.
01:03:17
Curt
Yeah, totally.
Technical Challenges and Customs Issues
01:03:18
Curt
Yeah, they're probably better than what you'll get anyways.
01:03:19
jamie peacock
yeah free switches
01:03:20
Curt
So yeah, totally free.
01:03:21
jamie peacock
Well, I'm going to, the limit switches will be tied in parallel with the alarm signal from the servo drives.
01:03:22
Curt
Yeah.
01:03:28
jamie peacock
So a servo drive faults, trips the alarm signal or the limit signal.
01:03:29
Curt
Okay, yeah. Yeah. Yep.
01:03:33
jamie peacock
So I normally do it. Yeah, that's all that's in my Google box. That's interesting.
01:03:38
Curt
Sweet. Well, mine is full of that ah that Home Assistant stuff.
01:03:39
jamie peacock
What's the news?
01:03:43
Curt
B-Link mini PC, the one I'm looking to switch to. The Mist Collector stuff. ah Oh, one thing I should say. So I was going to save this for a while. There's a dude on Instagram, Evans Street Knives.
01:03:54
Curt
I'll link in the show notes too. But Evans Street Knives.
01:03:56
jamie peacock
yeah
01:03:58
Curt
ah he was he we did I did a like a Reddit a a And then I randomly picked somebody and sent them a pen just for adding a question. And it was him. I sent him a pen. And then like a couple months ago, he's like, hey, dude, he's like, I had some like pocket knives made um like he designed them and had another company make them.
01:04:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:04:12
Curt
He's like, I'd love to send you one just as like a thank you. was like, that is super cool. So he sent it to me. And then Canada deemed that it was whatever prohibited item and I couldn't import it. And then I had the option to send it back, but like, there's no paperwork on how to do that. And like, yeah I've just been hitting dead ends trying to say, anyway, I finally just contacted him. i'm like, dude, I'm like, what's this thing worth? Like I, it's, it just, ah it's eaten up hours of my time.
01:04:33
Curt
And he's like don't stress, man. Like, it's and not a big deal. And I offered to cover his costs. And he's like, no, don't worry about it. Not a problem. He's like, good. We'll just let it be destroyed. He's like, I've already, you know. So anyways, just want to say thank you for trying to send me knife. I'm sorry that Canada stomped all over it. But yeah, he makes knives. He's in Australia. It's got a cool Instagram. So anyways, go check him out.
01:04:50
jamie peacock
okay nice
01:04:51
Curt
So I appreciate it, dude. Yeah, I kind of bummed that I didn't get his pocket knife. He was sending me one of like stabilized wood handles. And like, is yeah, it's pretty.
01:04:57
jamie peacock
oh nice yeah yeah i know the uk's got really weird in our floors
01:04:59
Curt
It was a cool looking knife. And I was like i was kind of bummed it didn't didn't make it. I mean, technically it made it here. I'm sure it's just in some customs guy's pocket right now. But 100%, they're not destroying that shit. and No, they're definitely like, oh, cool, mine. It's like, okay, whatever.
01:05:12
Curt
um So yeah, Canada has weird knife laws, but it is what it is. yeah.
01:05:21
Curt
Yeah, well, like, like you if you would have separated it, like, if you would have shipped the handle and then the blade separately, like, it would have came in.
01:05:22
jamie peacock
like no locking blades yeah
01:05:26
Curt
But they called it, they called it like, a centrifugal knife, which it isn't. But as soon as they mark it as that, it's it's prohibited.
01:05:32
jamie peacock
yeah that's it you're done yeah no point in arguing the point
01:05:33
Curt
So it's yeah like, yeah, so it's like, ah, damn it.
Stargazing and CNC Router Projects
01:05:37
Curt
yeah so that and then i've also been looking at uh oh two things that are my freaking kryptonite um stargazing binoculars by a company called analog sky i've been following them forever um before covid hit they were gonna anyways they they launched this kickstarter and i really was tempted to buy their kickstarter but it's like a ten thousand dollar binocular telescope so that one's gonna stay on my wish list for a little
01:05:56
jamie peacock
ah
01:05:59
Curt
bit it's like eight inch eight inch diameter dual like eyepiece telescope like i have a telescope but having it in binocular would be full sick um anyways so yeah go check that out if you're into telescopes it's just i kind of want to make my own that's besides the point and then print and see just because i want to make another big router which is a
01:05:59
jamie peacock
Yeah Oh wow No
01:06:05
jamie peacock
so
01:06:17
jamie peacock
no
01:06:21
Curt
It looks like a really cool application for a route. Like it's, it's printed parts, but they're printed to like fuse. Like it's all ball screws, linear rails, steel. It looks cool. I kind of want to make one just for the fact of making one.
01:06:31
jamie peacock
Just make the parts out aluminium.
01:06:35
Curt
Sorry, what?
01:06:36
jamie peacock
Just make the parts out of Ali.
01:06:36
Curt
Oh, yeah. Like, i will oh I will make all the printed parts out of aluminum, of course. Like, that's why I have so i have a machine to do that. But, like, do I need a router? No. Do I want one? Yes.
01:06:46
jamie peacock
Most Fair enough.
01:06:46
Curt
Do I have the space for one? Yes. So, yeah. I go in my dirty room downstairs. it just It's just begging for a nice, like, 4x4 router. I miss having that. Like, I used my day job. i used to have, like, a 5x10 and a 5x20 foot router. And I still can go there and use it whenever I want. But it's just, like, it's across town. And it's like, I want my own again.
01:07:05
Curt
So, anyway. yeah spending way too much time on those discord or on those uh like uh whatever you call those things yeah discord so all right yeah
01:07:11
jamie peacock
the forum is the wheel discords yeah but speaking of discords the taps and patience discord is a hell of a lot of fun i know you're a member of their patreon which means you get access to their discord And
Community Engagement and Product Plans
01:07:24
jamie peacock
like there's hangouts that we do hangout every Friday night, Jacob and I, and then everyone tags along.
01:07:24
Curt
yeah
01:07:29
jamie peacock
And yeah, just talk shit and convince EJ to buy things he doesn't necessarily need. Hello, EJ.
01:07:35
Curt
yeah
01:07:35
jamie peacock
Because I know he listens. But yeah, don't know if you saw the parts he made this week. He put a video out on YouTube of them.
01:07:42
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:07:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, dude. I helped him dial in the undercutter a few weeks back. So yeah, those things came out beautifully.
01:07:49
Curt
Cool.
01:07:50
jamie peacock
And then yeah, obviously he took pictures of it on an anchor point because he could.
01:07:54
Curt
Beautiful, yeah.
01:07:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, that was like nice.
01:07:55
Curt
That's awesome.
01:07:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:58
Curt
That's cool. Nice work.
01:07:59
jamie peacock
Let me scroll here. Okay, cool. So where can people find you and your things?
01:08:05
Curt
You can find me and my things at confounded machine.com and that'll, yeah, I'm going to do a big drop. I think we're right before Halloween here. So if you're on the lottery, I think a lot of lottery passwords will be going out and then I'm going to keep doing these till Christmas.
01:08:17
Curt
Cause it's like kind of my busy time. I'm just going to try to swamp with as many fricking pens I possibly can.
01:08:20
jamie peacock
yeah
01:08:22
Curt
So yeah. How about, uh, how about you, Mr.
01:08:24
jamie peacock
Okay, nice.
01:08:25
Curt
Jamie?
01:08:26
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, you can find me at jspec underscore engineering on Instagram or jspeceng.com for our website and online store. On the online store, you can find the Framelock utility knife.
01:08:37
jamie peacock
You can find the fancy shirts like Kurt's busy he showing off. I would show mine off, but I'm wearing an awesome vest, which we'll talk about in the after show. um
01:08:46
Curt
Ooh.
01:08:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, or you can find the anchor points. I've got pull studs in today, so we have stock again of those. i But yeah, anchor points are available at josepeckyng.com. And yeah, I made pallet vacuum chuck for mine, which is freaking sweet.
01:09:01
jamie peacock
And yeah, having four of them on the table is really nice. I'm so glad I did that.
01:09:06
Curt
That's cool.
01:09:07
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, super, super good.
01:09:08
Curt
Yeah.
01:09:09
jamie peacock
but yeah you can check out the point it is a uh pneumatically actuated zero point system with very cheap pallets like that is the main selling features that cheaper pallets uh cost and uh pull studs because the ball starts are just pc 30 pull studs but anyway what are you up to today kurt
01:09:28
Curt
Today, I'm going to put ah some bodies in this aisle and let it do all my fancy iso-grip milling. And if it still works, I will rejoice ah because that just saves me a copious amount of time. And then I can just load pens and it can do tool chains.
01:09:38
jamie peacock
Otherwise you've got to wait until Saturday for the Sabbath.
01:09:42
Curt
Otherwise, I got to wait till, yeah, Jesus goes to sleep or whatever happens on weekends.
01:09:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:09:45
Curt
And then I can and i can run again. and So, yeah. I mean, when I buy the machine in, i think I got it about this time ah year ago with the intention on running this specific pen on it.
01:09:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:09:57
Curt
So now it's finally, looks like it's finally going to run reliably. So, yeah, I'm ah i'm kind of pleased with that. That took a lot of freaking time.
01:10:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's taken a little while.
01:10:04
Curt
But anyway.
01:10:07
Curt
How about you? What are you ah going to do besides sleep?
01:10:08
jamie peacock
But yeah.
01:10:10
jamie peacock
I'm going quickly program a pot for tomorrow morning. It's a lot smaller than the mould I did today, but that also means a lot more detailed crap in it. So I'll program that quickly, I think, this evening. And I need to print something else, but I can't remember what it was that I needed to print.
01:10:25
jamie peacock
So, yeah, memory's failing me.
01:10:26
Curt
Nice.
01:10:27
jamie peacock
But yeah, just going to take it easy. And then tomorrow morning, early morning, going to machine those moulds finished quickly that the guy can fetch them. And then I need to go by the pressure pump to wash the... good way down so that i can start having a reassembled good way.
01:10:43
jamie peacock
Also, if the sun decides to shine and the weatherman isn't being a total utter knob, I will be painting my user interface tomorrow.
01:10:43
Curt
nice
01:10:50
jamie peacock
I think I might just hit the edges with the grinder just to break the sharp laser cut edges so that the paint won't chip off because that's the only problem you paint it and then you hit it with something and chips. So might just quickly round all the edges over.
01:11:01
jamie peacock
I was going to tick well the tray for the keyboard, but it's pretty rigid.
01:11:05
Curt
Cool.
01:11:06
jamie peacock
So I'm just going to leave it. And I'll just throw ah reasonably thick coat of paint on it and it will look spiffy and I can assemble it.
Podcast Promotion and Conclusion
01:11:14
jamie peacock
Nigel, sounds like plan. Thank you, everybody, for listening. I hope you enjoyed the podcast. If you did, please consider sharing it with someone else who you think might enjoy it or giving us a five-star rating or review or whatever it is on your player of choice.
01:11:29
jamie peacock
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01:11:47
jamie peacock
Thank you everybody for listening and we will see you next week.
01:11:51
Curt
Take care all.