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Ep. 26: Harder, Better, Faster (Tails of Optimization)
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Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as Vacuum Workholding, Tolerance issues, and Mould Jobs.
This Episode has bonus content that can be found for free on our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bonus-content-ep-132172636?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
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- Within Tolerance: https://open.spotify.com/show/6XZQMXNIQrVzQFKO6xmdhY?si=310dca76d9814287&nd=1&dlsi=87fd8b8c68ca4b3f
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- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I50VpykldkE
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Transcript
Introduction and Theme
00:00:08
Speaker
Welcome to the Lone Machinist podcast, podcast where it's just you, your tools, and the work. No team, no backup. I'm Jamie from JSpec Engineering, and every episode we're tackling the highs and lows of flying solo in the machining world.
00:00:22
Speaker
And I'm Kurt from Confound a Machine, here to chat about everything it takes to make it as a one-man show in the shop. From grinding and turning to the struggles of running a one-person operation, we're sharing the stories, the tricks, and the challenges that come with going it alone.
00:00:34
Speaker
If you're out there in the shop grinding away by yourself or just thinking about taking a solo pledge, this show's for you. So throw in your ear protection and let's talk about life behind the machine.
Daily Machining Operations
00:00:46
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Good morning Kurt, are you doing today? I'm doing fantastic. how are you doing on this lovely evening for you? Yeah, I had a longish day but got stuff done.
00:00:59
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Yeah. All in productive. Yeah, that's what matters I suppose. yeah also got yeah did a bunch of admin stuff and got some uh some pos that came through which is always nice ah the truly exciting stuff yes the truly exciting stuff considering these are parts that are going to take like 20 hours to machine oh wow and there's four sets oh okay well that's a lot of i don't know doom scrolling time ah Yeah, well, it's a lot of me sleeping while I get paid for my machine to run.
00:01:30
Speaker
because Oh, nice. Okay. Because I rough these things out in the early evening and just leave it to run. Machine can turn off when it's done. Oh, that's the this is the mold work you were kind of briefly alluded to? Yeah. Yep.
00:01:44
Speaker
Nice. Sorry, just remembered something. want add it to the document so I don't forget. to Yeah.
Pen Mechanisms and Tolerance Issues
00:01:52
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Yeah. So anyway, what have you been up to this week? ah This week was just a lot of jumping back into standard like pen production because I kind of i encountered like a little issue with that little Mech 1 mechanism i was working on. So i I decided not to sell any of the ones that I've assembled, which is kind of...
00:02:10
Speaker
Unfortunate right now because I have a whole wackadoo of do with them assembled sitting on my desk that could literally just go in the mailbox right now. um But I'm not super happy with how it just like every single one of them had to be hand tweaked and adjusted. And I couldn't figure out why. And then I started measuring some parts and i'm like, oh, this is why. OK, there's just the way I designed it. The tolerances are kind of stupid.
00:02:29
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um So it would it would benefit from being machined. It's basically how it boils down to. So, yeah. yeah like So now you're going do them out of Delrin. Yeah, like I'll probably, like i'm going to set up all the machining to do them out of titanium.
00:02:43
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um But in the to like save some, yeah I'm going to make a few out Delrin just to kind of make sure that I got the tool. Because i want the tool bus to look how I want them to look. like I'm sure I can machine it how to the shape, but like I want and want certain overlaps and cusp heights just to visually look pleasing.
00:02:59
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So I'll do that in Delrin, where it's cheap and fast. And then I can just switch it over to titanium. And then all these yeah and then i'll just re I'll reuse all the Ultim parts. So I didn't like i didn't burn a ton of time because most of the time it's just in machining the Ultim.
00:03:10
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um But all the all the printing is just basically going to probably go in my big box of shame because like it functions. It works just fine. But every single one of them had to be hand-tweaked and adjusted. And i was like, this is so tedious. It's about a thousand years.
00:03:26
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Yeah, because I was all resin printed. yeah Yeah. Sorry, what's that? They were all resin printed. the Yeah, the ends were... Yeah, and like the tolerance was good. It was like plus, i don't know, plus minus...
00:03:39
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two maybe, 2,000? and um But then you stack two of them and the way I have it, they're kind of sandwiched. And then the parallelism isn't perfect. so And that's
Vacuum Fixture Setup and Strategies
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the main issue I had. like The parallelism is out by 2,000 and the tolerance is 2,000 and the other piece is 2,000. All of a sudden you have like a 5,000, 6,000. And then it starts to bind up weird and like i was like, okay, this is this is what's causing it. So the most important question, Kurt, is when you go to machine them, are you going to put them on a pallet or are you going to swear at yourself every time you change stock?
00:04:09
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Oh, no, they're going on a pallet. Yeah, 100%. I mean, first, I'll probably just like i'll make a super, yeah super rough like just plate to work them on. And then, ah yeah, they'll immediately go on a pallet because I would i would jump off a bridge if I.
00:04:23
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Oh, it would be, yeah, it would be not fun. It would be very much. Actually, speaking of that, I was like designing my whole machine. because i'm like, okay, figuring out how I'm going cause i I want to machine the pal, like I'm going to put a big, big base palette in place so I can put your anchor points on it.
00:04:35
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But then I also want to be able to take those off to put vices on for like just rough holding work. Yeah. so I was designing that. And then the machine travel is kind of small. So I'm like, okay, I'll take my fourth off and then I'll put risers on to machine the sub plate and then just try to work it all out my head how going to do it. So it all,
00:04:51
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Well, you know someone with a bigger machine, so... Yeah, I just don't want to ship... I want to do it as steel, so i don't want to ship like a two-inch steel plate across the world. Do it out of alley, it'll be fine.
00:05:02
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Nah, that's for temporary stuff. Says the block has been in my machine for a year. That's true. Yeah, you just machine it down every time it gets a little ruined. Yeah, so with regards to printing last night, I decided to print new orifices for my Venturi vacuum generator I built a few years ago.
00:05:21
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Because okay when I drilled it, I think it ended up being about a millimeter the orifice because that's the smallest drill bit that I could successfully drill it with when I made the little orifice thing.
00:05:34
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So last night, I quickly designed up comma one comma two comma three comma four comma five orifice little thingies. Sent them to the printer, let them print overnight, but obviously it's a little bit chilly now. So my resin's not super thin.
00:05:47
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Took them out of the printer, put them through my ultrasonic to get as much resin as I could out of these tiny cavities. In a nutshell, the point, uh, 0.5 and 0.4, not a problem. The rest were solid.
00:05:59
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Put the 0.4 nozzle orifice into the thing and nope. no vacuum, like not even two inches of mercury. Because the Venturi, it's got to do with the orifice size on the nozzle and the in relation to the other orifice.
00:06:15
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And obviously, i just I think I did research back in the day. i can't remember. But I was getting 17 inches of mercury if I positioned the orifice
Vacuum Pump Benefits
00:06:23
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correctly. And the issue i was running into is was running out of compressed air.
00:06:28
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So it was fine if your operation was five or 10 minutes, but as soon as you went over about 15 minutes, the compressor started to not be able to keep up. Okay. Yeah. So this morning I just went and bought a vacuum pump and now I get 24 and a half inches of mercury.
00:06:43
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Nice. And it also only pulls 250 Watts. Oh, sick. Okay. Yeah. Why would I run my compressor if I could do it with 250 Watts? Like let's be realistic. Yeah. so I've been running vacuum, vacuum cuck all day.
00:06:56
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Nice. That's yeah. I like, don't know. I, there's so many times I would like a vacuum fixture or just like, oh, I should totally. own the pal I'm literally myself like a 300 by one 50 millimeter pallet.
00:07:09
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That is just for vacuum work holding. When I want to do something dumb, I can just throw it on there and try it. Like super, super quick and easy. So I'll probably machine one up next week or later this week.
00:07:20
Speaker
Nice. So I assume that. so i assume that yeah i assume that vacuum pump, like, soon as, like, if you breach, you're hosed. Uh, no. Surprisingly not. It's 4 CFM.
00:07:32
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Oh, wow. Okay. I thought it'd be, like, 0.5 CFM or something. No. It's, uh, if I'm, so I've got, uh, a wire piece, So the vacuum runs over the top of a machine over to where i put the vacuum pump.
00:07:46
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um It comes in
Mold Machining and Surface Quality
00:07:47
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there. There's a wire piece that goes to the vacuum chuck on the machine and then to a bypass valve. So just the advanced atmosphere and to the pressure gauge.
00:07:57
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I can open that and I still have 15 inches of mercury. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, let's that's good. That's nice. Like it's way better than I thought. And also was a whopping two $135. Wow.
00:08:14
Speaker
Cheap as beans. Yeah. Went and bought one this morning quickly so that I could get this job going. Because I made the the vacuum chuck on the weekend. And then we had go move stuff out of my aunt's apartments and whatnot on Sunday. So I couldn't work. So then this morning went and I was like messing with the orifices. And i'm like, eh, let's just go buy a vacuum pump quickly.
00:08:33
Speaker
Went bought a vacuum pump. And it's it literally ran all day. Nice. as I was making stinky freaking shavings because tufnel stinks. oh Yeah, it's so I think it's a phenolic resin with paper. It's basically Richelot, but it smells when you machine it.
00:08:50
Speaker
But yeah, did a lot of ones now. Tomorrow, it's the one is on the machine now. So I basically made the vacuum chuck. Then I put another fixture on top of that, vacuumed it down, machined it, bolted it down so I don't have to have the vacuum, but I'll probably just run it.
00:09:05
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to be on the safe side. And then the parts drop in with stupid sized dowels that I had to make, ah gets bolted down on machine, all the counterbores, then drop in custom made washers that also have a locating spigot so that all the parts are located in relation to the fixture.
00:09:23
Speaker
Then pull out the clamping, other clamping bolts and then turn everything into dust and spend about four hours surfacing these parts. Oh, wow. So are you my my calculations, my YOLO calculations pretty much work out exactly, including two hours of cleaning, of machine cleaning time that I'm charging them for.
00:09:42
Speaker
Are you cutting dry or are you cutting it with a coolant? Moist. Fucking wet. Moist. i want Yeah, wet. I want sludge in the back rather than dust in my bearings. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. So I'm just yeah sending coolant. I've got extra filtration filtration at the back.
00:09:56
Speaker
As soon as those parts are done tomorrow, outcomes, Monica and Monica can suck to a heart's content and gonna suck that entire tank out and, uh, run it through a filter again. And then this is, this is the first set of parts of four sets of parts.
00:10:12
Speaker
They want to do a test assembly of the first ones to make sure everything's okay. That way we only scrapping one set. If there's a design oversight or something. yeah so and that's all got to be done in the next very short term and then the mold stuff all has to be done by the end of july oh well you're gonna have lots of lots of long cycles running yeah lots of uh let the machine do its thing i'm thinking of buying some pcd um ball noses because they want these molds as smooth as possible and we did a test last week when the guy was here ah grabbed the
00:10:46
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a the pallets are made for the, those stupid mag bases that had all operations on one of those are surface, the pockets. I grabbed a piece of 400 grits, rubbed it quickly.
00:10:59
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One, uh, 220 grit, uh, not 220, a thousand, 200 grits smooth, like put paint, it's going to come off smooth. So they can be able to polish their molds up really quickly. But if I can give it to them glossy, I may as well give it them glossy.
Production Updates and Customer Challenges
00:11:12
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Yeah. What's the, what's the material that the molds are out of Just 6082. Nothing fancy. Oh, okay. yeah okay they They don't really, they don't feel the need that they need 7075. I'm like, I really don't care. I'll remachine them for them. I don't mind.
00:11:26
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um So yeah, i would but yeah, these, it's two halves and then a piece that slots in from the end that matches the aerofoil and yeah, it's a whole, a whole thing. But at least Roger did a good job of designing it.
00:11:38
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And there's, there's only one set of features that are really, really annoying. So they're doing a, integrated hinge line. So the top of the wing is smooth. The bottom's got this fricking ridge, but they need a sharp corner on the bottom.
00:11:52
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So, and I can't obviously tilt the thing cause don't have a trunnion. Um, so that whole thing has to be surfaced with the one millimeter ball. So it's going to take a look. It takes like an hour and half or two hours to just surface that after ah I've surfaced it already, just come in nibble out the corners.
00:12:08
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So I need to still play around a little bit with the tool parts there. But I've got two weeks before before I actually need to get cracking on that. So I'm waiting. I should get payment for that tomorrow of the deposit.
00:12:19
Speaker
Then it's auto material, auto drill bushes, auto DC holders and auto PCD animals. Nice. and that should Yeah, that should they should work real nice and basically on the moon My ER collets work. I've just got to tap the tool in when I change it.
00:12:36
Speaker
And every mold is going to be getting a new tool unless I've got a PCD. Then one tool will do everything. But right yeah, I don't want to drive the struggle bus if I can avoid it.
00:12:48
Speaker
Yeah, no I get that. I get that. So yeah, I assume you read our topics before you... ah before you typed or something. 100% read yours and then started typing mine. Yeah. feel like we play the same game sometimes.
00:13:05
Speaker
Yeah, no, we optimized one of our one of our regular processes. We blanked off a thousand parts in the M code. So we cut the bar down. So I had 34 pieces of bar. I put a but a bunch of hose clamps on it and then put in the band. So i' cut all 34 bars at once to half a meter. Then they get loaded into the M code. It used to be like a two or three minute operation to just blank these things off.
00:13:28
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I then got in there, did some slight optimizations. So instead of change, we now use the parting blade as the bump stop. So we come right up to the part and clamp feed it, clamp again.
00:13:39
Speaker
I know what the drawback roughly is. I need the part to be within like half a millimeter length and then go up, start spindle, come in, gro groove, groove chamfer or chamfer part off.
00:13:51
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And then the spindle stops. I drive little further forward and feed the next one. So we went, yeah, it it was literally a minute 30 per bar, including reloading it. So Danica got stand there for a while um and load bars. It was great.
00:14:05
Speaker
But yeah, blanked off a thousand of those in an afternoon. But yeah, optimized it to the point that you can do nothing else because it's such a short circuit. Yeah, yeah, exactly. A little bit annoying, but yeah, unfortunately, don't have a bar feeder, so a full-length bar feeder. I only can do half-meter bars, so it is what it is.
00:14:23
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. i I feel the pain in that. Sometimes it's like, I want to make this less efficient just so I have some time to go do something because it's just like, or else I'm just sitting here staring into space or just listening to a podcast until I forget something because it's just so tedious. You're just like, this is the worst kind of work.
00:14:40
Speaker
Yeah, we're doing a similar job blanking parts currently. um And then some smart dictated the maths wrong. So we had exactly the right number of pieces and then Danica forgot to push. She pushed cycle start then clamp instead of clamp then cycle start.
00:14:53
Speaker
Because normally I just put a code in to clamp it, but we need um blanking the parts using a gauge and I need it to be touching the gauge once it's clamped. So if it moves back at all, the cycle needs to not start.
00:15:06
Speaker
So it's a manual clamping operation. And yeah, push the wrong order. And then proceeded to ram my tool into a bar that wasn't really spinning and put burr in my collet.
00:15:17
Speaker
So had to pull the collet out and diamond paste on a brass rod and just hone it out a little bit. But sorted out running again. Just annoying that I'd accidentally miscalculated and ordered exactly the right amount of material.
00:15:31
Speaker
But it's of those things like ah we get we get five four parts out of a 500 mil length. I'm going to probably cut them now to like 550. And then I end up with off cut that I can get another one or two parts out of.
00:15:44
Speaker
not that right right Not that it really makes a f freaking difference, but yeah, I will try and be a little more efficient. And that's the next couple days production there for that machine.
00:15:57
Speaker
Fun? Yeah, lots of fun. And you're switching looks. ah yeah Go ahead. No, no, no, carry on. I'd say it looks like you're you're switching into ah Anchor Point production as well.
00:16:09
Speaker
Yeah, so anchor point production has officially started. Op 1s on the bodies is that are done. And then I did them quickly because I had some time to kill. I'm like, eh, just let it run, and then that's done. Like, I need to program some stuff. May as well have the robot roboting.
00:16:22
Speaker
And then now, obviously, I'm set up for the vacuum work. As soon as that's done, the vas one of the vases will go back in so that I can machine the anchor point fixture because I kind of want to try to get it to anodize this week still.
00:16:37
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the bodies, I want to try get the, I've got the material for the hardened pads. So want to try get those off to heat treat this week as well, because those are the only two external real things.
00:16:49
Speaker
Everything else, the material hits the next day, all the parts are done. It's not like it's super super black delayed. We are running out of month now. So I've got to make a plan for some pull studs and whatnot. So that might delay the batch two, but is what it is.
00:17:05
Speaker
I've been trying to try to roll it with self funding and whatnot. And it turns out it's a bit challenging when your customers are having lead filled shoes. Yeah.
00:17:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's just been a mild frustration over the last few weeks. Like I actually messaged one of my customers on Friday. i'm like, hey you guys, you gave me an order like three weeks ago.
00:17:27
Speaker
haven't received a PO. I haven't received payment. What's going on? And the guy's like, oh, it was meant to be done last week already. I'm like, it was meant to be done two weeks ago, but sure. And then he phoned their finance department. where they're like Oh no, it's been loaded for this week, Friday. I'm like, sweet. When the money comes through, I'll get your material and stuff on order. And beginning of July, I'll try and knock it out for you.
00:17:46
Speaker
right yeah what the hell guys it's like literally going on a month now since they were meant to or since they placed the order and i'm not doing anything until they pay like i will do nothing i don't trust that they will pay me if i don't i won't even let them pay me a deposit it's you pay front up front in full i don't care because i've heard some stories of them not paying so i'm not willing to risk the risk it Yeah, yeah, no, exactly. hints yeah especially Especially if it's like big company. like That's what always made me laugh is like giant company paying like small garage company. It's like, what, you don't have the bandwidth for a few thousand bucks. You want me to float you? And I get it. Like it financially makes sense in their books to squeeze anybody they can, but it's like, come on guys.
00:18:30
Speaker
My tolerance for that shit is a very, very low. Yeah, fair. Totally fair. I printed another 10 of those enclosures on the resin
3D Printing and Ventilation
00:18:38
Speaker
printers over the weekend. Got a message on Friday night.
00:18:40
Speaker
Could you print another 10 CEOs going to China this week and he wants to take samples? I'm like, yeah, no problem. And it's landed on Saturday and Sunday and done.
00:18:51
Speaker
Like, it's really, we've got two printers. It's pretty quick. Yeah. They need to go over there behind me. But I need to build a whole freaking fume hood for them because otherwise the whole upstairs here is going to stink of resin.
00:19:03
Speaker
yeah yeah so fume hood and permanent extractive fan just sucking that shit into my roof to poison anything that tries to live in there
00:19:13
Speaker
and fucking that works yeah hundred better than poisoning yourself yeah there's a freaking rat or something living in the tree outside my house and it's going to get shot my mother nor came running into the workshop there's a rat in the tree i'm like good for the rats i'm busy
00:19:29
Speaker
it's It's Africa. Can't you just let like one of your giant big, like you sent me that picture of a, like a lion in your grocery store. I'm like, it's not ordinary for shit. Yeah. Like I honestly wouldn't even be surprised. Like didn't even occur to me that it might be AR generated because it's kind of shit that happens here.
00:19:47
Speaker
Right. Yeah. It's the lock, the gate at the zoo.
Fusion Software and CNC Programming
00:19:50
Speaker
And then we've got a lion on the loose. i mean, there was a flying on the loose a while ago. It's really not out of the ordinary. some moron at the zoo didn't lock the door yeah no not around here i have a fusion related question for you and the audience has anyone else noticed that opening nc programs takes for fucking ever in fusion lately like if you've posted on and you want to go select like if you double click on nc program to go and edit like yeah takes for fucking ever to open
00:20:24
Speaker
Oh yeah, there is a little bit of a lag on that one. Yeah, let me try another one here. Yeah, infuriating. there's more lag for sure. It's still it's still pretty pretty quick here, but yeah. it's If it ain't broke, fix it till it is, Fusion.
00:20:37
Speaker
It is a little slower for sure. Yeah, it's infuriating. Because I do a lot of stuff where I want to just post, I want to change which ops have been posted. Like today I was running a fixture, and then I want to rerun this op or rerun that op because it's a one-off.
00:20:50
Speaker
So yeah, I was getting very, very, very annoyed with it today. Yeah, no, I love i love and NC programs. I fought and NC programs for the longest time. i was like, I'm never going to use these. And then I started using And like, I'm never not going to use these. yeah That seems to be a very common common thing that people hate it until they use it.
00:21:08
Speaker
But I love it. Like, it's great. I deleted a bunch the other day because I had a whole bunch of stuff. Like all the NC program. I'm like, nope, just highlight it all, delete, and start afresh.
00:21:20
Speaker
Yeah. i do I use it to do... as i just use it to do dumb stuff like to jump between tons of different setups and be like i want to pick a little bit of code off this one and then run this part and then go back to like so it's nice to be able to set them off so i actually want to get into the habit now of purging my anchor point folder on my nas every time i run another batch so i'm forced to output new code straight from fusion that any changes i know have been pushed i'm not running old code which is the way you should do it allegedly um because the way i was taught to do the wire cutter repost every time but yeah
00:21:53
Speaker
Yeah. that's yeah i I see. I see how there's benefits to that. Like, especially looking at some of my lathe code now that I've just, I'm i'm moving a lot of it. it's It's finally going into the 2025 folder, even though it's been 2025 for like half a year.
00:22:07
Speaker
This is because, same thing. I'm like, okay, I'm like, I've ran this code. I know I've ran this code for like a year. I'm like, I have no idea how to repost it if I ever need to. There's so many edits to it. I'm like, if this, like I have nine copies of it, but I'm like, if it goes away, like I am so hosed.
00:22:21
Speaker
So I'm like, you know what? i what Totally. So like, let's post out of Fusion and at least have it, even if i have to do some edits, if it's 95% there, like if something blows up, I can just repost it and be pretty much like up and running and, you know, within an hour or something like that, as opposed to being like, okay, well, I'm, I'm hosed. Like, I just, I guess I'll start, you know, selling hand knitted doilies. Cause like, it's going to take me years to figure out where the hell I was last. So was like,
00:22:43
Speaker
that's a bad idea yeah
Machining Challenges and Solutions
00:22:45
Speaker
i know having stuff that's that uh i need to actually go through the the emco's desktop because i just dump all the code i'm running on the desktop there because it's not actually on the nas right because the wi-fi on the pi is sketchy because it's in a metal box who would have guessed yeah so that that i just have a flash driver so any machine i actually use a flash driver on plug the flash drive and copy the file over because if you leave it plugged in the Raspberry Pi OS shits itself after a few hours.
00:23:14
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And I've deduced that when the flash drive isn't plugged in, it happens far less. So plug in, transfer over, take flash drive out, and then it's more stable. um But yeah, my desktop on there is a whoring mess.
00:23:28
Speaker
It's just, yeah, there's all different production stuff I need to just go through and put it in folders. But I mean, that machine gets turned on run, turned off. I don't really sit fondling it in any way.
00:23:39
Speaker
anytime but yeah i ran ran everything except the slow here today had to make some stupid little pins so just spun up bertha and uh quickly made some little locating pins on bertha and then yeah emco ran production and lk ran production all day sick but yeah tuftal sticks that's the gist of it i'm surprised you can still smell under the coolant but no it it smells i'm pretty sure it's a phenolic type resin yeah
00:24:10
Speaker
Yeah. And then my, cause I'm using, I don't want to use my nice aluminum face while I'm using one, my 50 millimeter steel, uh, one that's configured for steel, but the inserts on super sharp.
00:24:22
Speaker
So you've got to do your facing pass and then do facing pass again. Right. It's actually tools of lack vertical tool deflection. ah ja I also discovered that the Z axis on my machine stretches when it warms Oh really?
00:24:35
Speaker
Yes. How much does it stretch by 30 or 40 microns? Oh, okay. So, yeah. No, not shut down. Under two tens. Under 2,000, right? um I noticed this because I touched a tool off before I shut down in the afternoon and then touched that same tool off in the morning. And I'm like, huh, look, there's like 30 microns difference.
00:24:55
Speaker
So, yeah, basically what I do now is if I'm running anything that's heart critical, I'll just touch off all the tools related to it in a row. And then I know they're at least co-planar to each other.
00:25:07
Speaker
Sure. So that's my solution now. I still need to sort out the quick quick removal um probe based thing. have a plan. It entails me making some custom press tools, but that's fine. That's not difficult.
00:25:22
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pretty good at that, actually. So I'm gonna is I'm gonna have some stainless steel sheets laser cut, and then they'll go into the press tool, hit them with the three-ton, one-ton arbor press to just dimple in some features so that it's got a nice positive latching click.
00:25:39
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when you slide the the la little plate. So that's mulling around in my brain. hasn't been put in CAD yet, but it needs to go into CAD in the next like week or two because when the more Tufnel stuff comes around, I want that to be an easy process to take my probe in and out because yeah I'm literally machining the entire envelope. Like today I had to change
Efficient Production Planning
00:25:59
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from a 2D adaptive. I was machining some little pockets for finger grips on a plate that is the 700 millimeters wide and my machine is 710.
00:26:08
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So the lead-in was giving me shit. So I ended up drawing a box, 710 by like 300, and then told it to do a 3D adaptive and told it to constrain itself within the box so that it wouldn't be stupid.
00:26:21
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Right, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like running at the limits of your machine is ah not super fun. Works pretty well, I must say. Like it's as far as this whole job's gone, it's gone pretty well. Oh, that's good. Yeah.
00:26:34
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we'll see tomorrow when i run the second ops but i have confidence no like making all the fixtures and stuff was a little bit uh scary but yeah it's done now and they got hit with a bunch of nre uh we'll see now in the next set of parts whether i can reuse
Community Engagement and Support
00:26:50
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the second op fixture if have to make more second op fixtures so but that's fine i have the vacuum chuck that was the big thing it's getting the vacuum right yeah sorted out and that whole That whole endeavor put into the machine was the big the big challenge.
00:27:03
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So that's now dealt with. So cheap cardboard, what side cutters? Oh, those are, oh, okay. I thought they were shitty animals, but yeah.
00:27:15
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No, so I bought those. as za yeah Yeah, I talked about it last week about i bought those because i was looking for carbide side cutters. And I found a pair that were inexpensive because all the other pairs were like two, three hundred bucks. and I was like, OK, let's try this whatever, $40 pair out, see how they work. um And they they had carbide edges on them, but they were really rounded. as soon as the teeth came closed, they just wanted to like just, you know, fold like past each other kind of like scissors as opposed to just like meeting up perfectly.
00:27:40
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um So I was like, okay, well, it it was it was just smushing wire. And I was like, well, it's not dent in the carbide because it's super round, but it's also i'm not cutting. so I'm like, I'm going to return these anyways. They're terrible. so I'm like, I'm going to try sharpening them.
00:27:54
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Are still there? I think I lost video on you.
00:27:58
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Jamie, am I talking to myself now? Good.
00:28:03
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Okay, and after that magical technical difficulty, we're back. This is going to be very interesting. We don't know where Danica's going to cut it and where she's going to stitch it back together. So, yeah, don't know what happened. um But yeah, anyway, since we're back, let's quickly shout out our Patreons.
00:28:18
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um We've got a new Patreon this week. whoo
00:28:23
Speaker
I've got to figure out how to pronounce this. Cromulant Knife Company, I believe. Cromulant Knife Company. Thank you for joining. If I got it wrong, please let me know and I'll happily fix the pronunciation there.
00:28:35
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ah And also thank you to our top tier Patreons, Jake from Benchmark20 and Luke from Fabtastic. Luke did reach out as well. He says he added all the chamfers himself.
00:28:47
Speaker
He also added extra blocks to that machine because there weren't enough linear blocks. Okay. Yeah. So thought I'd just let you know about that. I think we might need to get him on to the after show at some point.
00:29:00
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I love to pick his brain for sure. Yeah. can be able to be ready sweet Anyway, so we have a patron. If you want to support the show, you can also check out the website, the loan machines.com. There's a companion guide for all the fun and creative words that I like to use, as well as a link to the merch store for the podcast, where you can pick up some fancy merch like Kurt is wearing, I believe.
00:29:19
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um He's got one. He's got two of the hoodies. um And he's also got some other fancy shirts that my lovely wife, Danica, has designed so yeah you can check those out on theloanemachinists.com anyway um yes tell me about how your foaming coolant is uh not because of the coolant it's because of you yeah well basically was so i was having issues soon as i started cutting the ultim um i noticed i had coolant foaming and like nothing nothing excessive um the two little trays um in the back of my machine and i have paper paper filters 80 micron paper below that to catch most of the junk um
00:29:56
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And it was just after 20 minutes, they'd be foamy, ah like a nice like a nice bath. And I was like, if this gets any worse, I'm to have problems. But like as it is right now, we're OK. So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to be smart, and I'm going preemptively reach out to my Folks that sold me the coolant. I was like, Hey, I'm having foaming issues. I don't know if it's I'm cutting plastic, basically high speed spindle spinning away.
00:30:18
Speaker
Um, if you have a defoamer, let me know. And they basically replied back with you're using like Castro and B 50. There is no defoamer. You do not need a defoamer. The problem is you. was like, all right then. I kind of, OK, that sounds fantastic.
00:30:31
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So basically, they they said, give me us all the details of what you're running. And I'm pretty meticulous about how I keep my coolant. So I gave them all the specs. And I basically said you know it's brand new. It's clean. I keep it filtered. I top it off with RO. I just monitor the bricks. like I keep everything in check. Skim it.
00:30:47
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Um, and, uh, they said it's probably due to the fact that, um, you're flowing a ton of flood and with tiny chips, they said, especially as it starts building up in the trays, they're like, just dump them earlier.
00:30:59
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Um, said, it's just not, it's just not draining back into the sump, especially if you have a small sump, which my machine does. It's like, ah whatever 80 liters so it's not a lot of not a lot of volume um so basically said they said just throttle back your coolant i when you're doing the plastic and you shouldn't have issues and that's I haven't done much more plastic after that um I did I did clean out the like I clean out my filters like every day or so um so i clean them out and it's not really an issue um but yeah it's basically it's like no the problem is the problem is you the problem is not me so it's like and i've been super impressed with that mb50 like it's fantastic i just watched a video about it uh the practical machine is good about it
00:31:35
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um okay but yeah i was having foaming today because i'm running a face mill at 4500 rpm and spraying coolant directly at it for 15 minutes at a time like it it's gonna foam so i threw in a bunch defoamer because i have defoamer for my coolant because my guys are cool um yeah but also they said to me the the small aluminium shavings and the plastic shavings will pull the defoamer out of your coolant because the defoamer clings to those better than big chips.
00:32:02
Speaker
So I was like, oh yeah, cool. Like I'm almost out of defoamer. I'll ask the guy for some more. Said it should last me till August. We're going to be a little bit short on that. But also I think the tufnel is not helping the situation with the foaming.
00:32:15
Speaker
Cause it's also again, blocking my, my filters going back into the tank on purpose. I put extra filters cause don't want that shit in my tank. Um, and then also the first time I found that, like what is your cooling level?
00:32:26
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Because if it's not going back into the tank fast enough and your pumps cavitating, that yeah really doesn't help the situation. Yeah, exactly. Whips it. that's That's what they asked me to because I specifically said I'm like, I've heard that like small plastic chips can strip of the defomer from the coolant. And I tried it. Like I added just a little bit of like actual like coolant concentrate to the mix to see if that would yeah change it. And just really know no change. And so i was like, hmm, I wonder if it and they basically said like, no.
00:32:53
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No, that's not a problem. It's like, okay, well, I mean, once again, it's not an issue that's stopping production or anything. It's just one of those things where I'm like, that's a lot more foam than I'm used to seeing. don't know.
00:33:04
Speaker
guess I'll just ahll keep plugging away. I've got Roger, I'm trying to get him to come visit me so that we can 3D scan the back of my machine because it's, well, I'm lazy and don't want to draw it by hand. want to 3D scan it.
00:33:15
Speaker
ah Basically with the cooling tank in, but one of the filters removed so that I can have a sheet metal duct made that ducts both return channels to a center point that I can put a band filter in for this tough little stuff that I can just constantly be flowing the the shit into a bucket and not have to yeah not have to deal with the a clogged return line.
00:33:34
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Yeah, I know. i was thinking that too. I was like, i could make I can make kind of cranky, like little paper filters where I could just well you know go back or put them on a little step or something and just crank them every half hour. But I'm like, I'm not doing enough volume in Alton. Grimsmo has something like that on his head.
00:33:50
Speaker
I remember that, yeah. And he hasn't shared it. And it's really frustrating because I want to build one. And I don't, I'll end up probably just the engineering my own one, but like, I would really like to know what he ended up going, got Ky ended up getting it working because he was running RichLight, which is the same as Tufnel, paper and epoxy. Totally.
00:34:07
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Yeah. So yeah like he did that for the same, same reasons I needed for, but yeah, I'm going to probably just make a duck that comes to the center because I can't go sideways on my machine. So then what I'll do is I'll have a duck to the center and then I'll just have a little chip conveyor. I roll in that just pump shit out into a bucket.
00:34:23
Speaker
yeah Because if this is going to go into production, it's going to be oh pretty much a week of my month, every month, which would be great. Just horrible, but great. well Yeah. that's a nice thing about like a coolant machine. Like my lathe, for instance, when I have to like work with it, like yeah i don't want to like I don't want to move the chips out of it because if i any oil I move out, oil is valuable. like It's expensive. Coolant, by comparison, is dirt cheap. Dirt cheap, yeah.
00:34:51
Speaker
if i waste a bit of cool i'm like i don't give a f because like it is so inexpensive where it's like if i lose a liter of oil it's like that's a lot of cash so it's like it's kind of fun playing with machines being like okay i can just i can just move these chips over here and like i don't give a shit like it doesn't matter so well i've got so i've got a um It's a butcher box. It's a butcher crate.
00:35:11
Speaker
And I draw a whole bunch holes, like way too many in the bottom of it. And then I've got a small, another one below it. So I dump my shavings in there, let the coolant drop through, and then I throw the coolant back in the machine. yeah Because coolant is not, well, it's not expensive, but it's ah not cheap either.
00:35:27
Speaker
Yeah. It's buying a 20 liter of concentrate because some smart dick pumps his coolant out into his driveway. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. I forgot that. yeah You lubricated your driveway. You did it again?
00:35:38
Speaker
It did it again. Oh, it did it again. Okay. Yeah. It started foaming or something and got an airlock. i don't know. can't remember. but um i was a little bit annoyed. I was in the workshop when it happened and I looked around the corner. I'm like, what the fuck's that?
00:35:49
Speaker
And then, ah yeah, I went and dealt with it. So then I ended up taking my air gun and blowing it through the return line to make sure there was fuckwall in it. Instead of just poking it with the little coat hanger.
00:36:01
Speaker
I like, fuck aon yeah lost the blasted that thing clean. So I need to put a secondary yeah overflow on that because it wasn't fun. But my floor's nice and shiny. ah Yeah, exactly. Yeah, nothing will stick to it anymore. Yeah, pretty much.
00:36:16
Speaker
Until the coolant evaporates nicely and then it's sticky as hell. Yeah, I don't like that. yeah and No, it's not it's not fun. So al mom yeah, I'm going to include my clean my machine out tomorrow afternoon, hopefully.
00:36:27
Speaker
Hopefully I'll be done with this tough little job tomorrow. My plan is tomorrow morning, get cracking with it. I think I have enough bolts to bolt it down. If not, I guess John and i are going i'm on a drive. He can be in my headphones while I drive to go by bolts. Because tomorrow morning he's going chat to John Day.
00:36:43
Speaker
Right, yeah, yeah. yeah so but john Yeah, lots and lots of fun. yeah But yeah, what it's all of our topics, Kurt.
00:36:54
Speaker
How did we both run all of them? Because we got stopped halfway through and then ranted into the ether, which probably just got sent to the ether. Or maybe you've listened to it. I don't know. We don't don't even know what this podcast is. It did actually sink. I waited for it to s sink before.
00:37:08
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but i said It said you had some initializing issue. well let's We'll see where Danica cuts it. so yeah Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Let's see if i can break the incident again by going to my phone because that's what happened. I was on my phone when did that last time.
00:37:21
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Again, no one gave us questions. No one loves us. Oh, I had some questions from the last run that I was just foolish and didn't didn't look it up. Okay, cool. Well, to anybody, before we get to the questions, to anybody who listens to us and not with Intolerance, go listen to With Intolerance with John Saunders.
00:37:37
Speaker
It was really, really good. I thoroughly enjoyed that podcast today. Like I might even listen to it tomorrow again. It was that good.
Headphone Reviews and Tech Talk
00:37:46
Speaker
Oh, wow. Yeah. No, I thoroughly enjoyed it. They go over his backstory and whatnot.
00:37:51
Speaker
Yeah. Thoroughly, thoroughly entertaining. So yeah, we'll see if there's nothing to listen to. Well, there's something to listen to tomorrow. It's called The Lone Machinists. um But yeah, if I run out of stuff to listen to, going re-listen to it tomorrow.
00:38:05
Speaker
Oh, and then in casemar in case in case my review of my headphones gets cut out by my wife, which I think I'm to ask her actually do. ah Yeah, I got my headphones this this last week.
00:38:16
Speaker
The E-Armor, E-More, I don't know how to pronounce it. ah The C-51s. They're the giant cans look super cool and have boom mark. So my audio isn't entirely horrible while I'm in the workshop.
00:38:29
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They also have five levels of noise cancelling that if you just push the button and not eee or hold it, um they work really well. I'm actually thoroughly enjoying weighing them now.
00:38:41
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I stretch the headband a bit so they're comfortable. And yeah, I listened with them, when was it? It must have Saturday, all day Saturday, to the point that my phone was on like 3% when I came back in.
00:38:53
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They were still on like 60% battery. Oh, nice. Uh, yeah. Also 800 milliamp battery, not 8,000. Um, listing the packaging says 800, the listing says 8,000. Um, yeah, like small difference.
00:39:09
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they also recharge in like four hours, which is great. like they like them now I didn't want to, I didn't want them to run out tomorrow. So I'll just put them on charge. um But yeah, super, super comfortable. And when you turn the noise cancelling, sorry, when you put them on without the alt noise cancelling, it cuts the world out.
00:39:25
Speaker
And then you enable, what's Active hearing mode or some shit. Some Chinese lady tells you what it is. and And then it's got to know five settings there. And then Bluetooth and it turns on the Bluetooth mode and then connects to the phone and whatnot.
00:39:39
Speaker
But yeah, I'm thoroughly, thoroughly enjoying them. And they're green, which is awesome.
Swiss Lathes and Workshop Considerations
00:39:43
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nice that helps it does it makes me feel happy i think all those headphones use probably the same recording of like bluetooth connected no this one's different this one's oh no this one's way more asian way way more asian yeah and um no my other ones mine danica's my bluetooth speakers have all used the same voice these ones are just slightly different Mm.
00:40:07
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Yeah. Cool. you know So what questions did you get, Kurt? ah One of them was just it basically kind of will gloss over it because I've answered it in the it's just related to pen stuff. So um basically what inspired me to get into pen machining, I just kind of fell into it. so that's basically answer on that. I answered that one in detail on like the Reddit AMA thing on my media page. So if you're so into it, um but either way, thanks for the question.
00:40:30
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And then Aaron Edwards 09. This was like last week, by the way. So I'm sorry for not getting to it. I i just totally forgot that I posted this up. It said thoughts. And I'm sure we kind of can both weigh in on this one a little bit because I think it's both kind of on our wish list is ah thoughts on ah ROI of a Swiss lathe, specifically thinking for pens, but for just in general as well. And yeah, of course, I want a Swiss lathe. They're just heinously expensive unless you want like a super, I mean, clapped out lathe in Swiss world is a little bit different because there's bathes in oil and they usually run for like millions of hours. So you typically can buy a used Swiss lathe and it still is pretty damn good.
00:41:04
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um Yeah, I'd absolutely want one. Someone deleted the parameters. Someone deletes the parameters. Yeah, it's a death sentence. So I've learned because there's one still sitting like it's two, 1500 kilometers away from me. And I think now the price, I bet you if I went there and just said, I will pay for rigging, they'd be like, get it out of here. But it's a, it's a paperweight. It's totally useless.
00:41:20
Speaker
It's on are our, our 16 citizen or something like that. Like, I forgot what's here. Come on, dude. I, I would, but it's like, it's not worth the time. No, it's not it's not worth the time. Like,
00:41:34
Speaker
just going to be, I'm just going to spend so much time into it. that i'll spend i'll spend I'll spend tens of thousands of dollars on it. Just yeah. so in time It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. because Isn't it sad how we're being responsible and not doing these projects?
00:41:48
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, all I would need is a small push. so but I'm not going to be the one to push you to do that because yeah that's just, that's a pit where time and money go to die.
00:41:59
Speaker
Yeah. So but not give you slave I definitely want one. Oh, a hundred percent. I'd love one. If I had a customer who could place a bloody order, uh, it would be great because their parts would be lovely on a Swiss slave, except, uh,
00:42:11
Speaker
They're a bunch of clowns that don't place orders. I think someone from me listens to this podcast. Place orders. Well, and for my world, it's kind of like ah the quote unquote cheap way to get like a sub spindle lathe in a small form factor. Because like if you want to buy like a y-axis sub spindle lathe, which is essentially the Swiss's, they're huge. And they're rather spendy.
00:42:32
Speaker
And they're not like they're built to turn big parts. So if you're just using it to turn, you know, sub half inch parts, like you're just wasting a ton of volume. and the rigidity for just itty bitty parts so that is the most frustrating thing to me with um how much was that machine so i was thinking i saw a lathe that i want to it's like thirty thousand dollars um it's a sino lathe it's a small but small in lathe world means you can swing 300 millimeters because everyone wants to do giant uh why it was a c-axis live tool lathe
00:43:06
Speaker
which for what I needed for would be perfect. It's also the same size as Bertha because getting, again, getting a small lay, there's not, not an easy feat. I don't want to do anything over a hundred millimeters, but finding a lay that can only do up to hundred miles is not common.
00:43:23
Speaker
Like, no, yeah we're in the, we're in the weird space where we have a small workshop and want small machines. Whereas everyone else wants giant machines. Yeah. Well, the thing is I can put two Swiss's in here without troubles, but I couldn't put two Y-axis, even small Y-axis ST whatever, 10 Haas's.
00:43:43
Speaker
They would it wouldd be crammed to get two of them in here. the The other thing there is your spindle horsepower. You look at one of the Tornos machines, they're like three kilowatts, two, three kilowatts on the spindle, not a like 50 horsepower. You don't need 50 horsepower if you're only making a small things.
00:43:58
Speaker
like I had one of my colleagues here today Uh, we now looking, he's over tangent time. So where I used to work, they sold these, this company, some machines, the machines didn't do what they were supposed to. So they scrapped them. And now they're making their own machines to do this thing.
00:44:16
Speaker
Seems kind of right. Like ship things that are unfinished and don't deliver. Um, you know, they got two pneumatic spindles that they're trying to drill holes into cost iron with. So he was here today. I'm like, tell them we've got, I've got a 400 watt servo motor sitting here.
00:44:30
Speaker
tell him 2000 Rand, we'll put together a demo for them prove it works. And then 12 grand to servos. I was talking in rands here. So it's like 12 grand $600 to 600 watt servos, your 11 collets on it, they put the six millimeter drills in, and they can drill at the right RPM for drilling cost iron like they're using carbide drills.
00:44:53
Speaker
So we we look at making little drill units. But it's one of those things that if you've got someone in the factory who can sell it, because they're in the workshop in there already, it makes life a lot easier than making something and then trying to sell it.
00:45:05
Speaker
Yeah. So yeah we yeah, we're doing all sorts of weird shit now. It's great. like it.
00:45:12
Speaker
No, never bore it. Yeah, no doubt. Did you get any other questions there? ah No, just a few those. And I had to go way back in the time machine to find them. So if there's more, I'm sorry. um But yeah.
Media Consumption and Recommendations
00:45:25
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yeah that's a problem with time machine i know so oh um have you listened to lean built yet from today which oh not today no no not today's one okay it was also very good okay good well i'm excited because last week was kind of like a lull for podcasts so uh yeah it was a bit of a lull yeah i listened to pfg today as well they were talking about different talk uh talk wrenches and whatnot also very very entertaining enjoy that I saw the recording last night when I was setting up the 3D prints and I'm like, eh, I don't feel like dropping in for it live.
00:45:59
Speaker
I prefer listening it the next day than listening it live. Like, better. Forever in Discord. Yeah. i like to I like to do a time and a half, so I don't typically listen much live because I don't like listening to people talk slow.
00:46:14
Speaker
don't know. watched the Slant 3D thing because don't know you saw Etsy now. it depends where you read it with the the not allowing 3D printed stuff. they and like That's actually not what they said, but yeah. um They don't want people like buying the files off of somebody, posting those same pictures and just flooding the markets.
00:46:34
Speaker
So, cause they're, they're all slant 3d thing. It, um, it's a plugin effectively for Etsy. So this 3d printed stuff that they, uh, it's prints on demand basically.
00:46:47
Speaker
And they fulfill. So interesting podcast, but this morning it's like, listen time and a half because I can't, I can't sit there for 40 minutes. Um, but yeah, it's something that's been frustrating me with YouTube is nothing is less than 20 minutes.
00:47:01
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. And it's like, I get why I get that they're being incentivized to do longer content, but it's like when you've got 10 minutes to kill before you're going somewhere, you can't watch anything on YouTube anymore.
00:47:13
Speaker
I know. Yeah. Like on Sunday morning, I had, I had 20 minutes to kill and I couldn't watch anything because I needed to be in the car in 20 minutes. And it's like, yeah. I know there's a few few channels I like that I'll just like I'll throw them like a podcast like I'll just ramp them up to whatever one and a half two two times whatever I can deal with and then listen and then if it's something interesting I'll whip my phone and just look at and be like oh okay that's what they're talking about yeah that's what I did on the weekend with the WAN show listening to it and then they said something interesting so get back to it open up my phone and yeah mean that's like it was four hours on Saturday that I listened to the WAN show yeah exactly so but that part of the part of the Saturday routine
00:47:55
Speaker
Cause I don't think there was a business of machining this week. Nope. Nope. nope And then, yeah. then I listened to, I listened to like, um, uh, taps and patience as they come out just so I don't yeah spoil. Like I have access to the earlier ones. I think I do anyways. So do I. Um, I actually haven't listened to the new one.
00:48:12
Speaker
Oh yeah. Yeah. I normally, so i open on Patreon and then I will, uh, click the YouTube link so that I can minimize it and listen to it in the background. And then if nothing new is on the podcast player, then I'll listen to it on the podcast player too.
00:48:27
Speaker
Yeah. I just try to wait till they come out on my player because then same thing. I'll like, I'll, eat I'll eat too much of my podcasts. And then I'm like, well, now I have like a week lull of like, where I can just, I mean, which is fine. It's audio books. Like this is the most first problem in the world. but I was watching documentaries on the limiting factor the other day.
00:48:43
Speaker
Okay. but I don't know. It's the submersible they built to do the five deeps deepest point in all five oceans. Oh, cool. Okay. Yeah, watching how it was made, like the titanium spheres.
00:48:56
Speaker
Holy cow. Big piece of titanium mudded through a ring to make a dome. And then the spherosity or the roundness of the dome is within comma one of a millimeter. Wow. on Yeah, it has to be. It has to be as close to perfect because submarine, if you're out by, I think it's like one or two percent,
00:49:17
Speaker
it you lose like a shitload of your structural integrity. And yeah, accent sense yeah yeah that ROV is designed to go up and down in the water column, not really translate because the idea is you launch in a spot that will get you to where you want to be the time you the bottom.
00:49:35
Speaker
And it went to the bottom the Marianas Trench. It's been the deepest point in all five oceans and then looking for some of the deepest wrecks in the world. yeah, very, very interesting. Have you seen the...
00:49:47
Speaker
There's like a brief kind of like, not of how it's made, but it shows you the construction of ah the James Cameron sub that he made to go to like ah Challenger Deep as well. No, haven't. I did watch the one on eln Elvin. um has Elvin has done 5,200 dives since the 60s.
00:50:03
Speaker
so Is that the man? That's a robot. It's the military one. it's the the manned one. Oh, is it? It's owned by the US military. um Yeah, it's done 5,200 dives. Every five years it gets rebuilt and slots upgrades and whatnot to keep with the latest tech.
00:50:18
Speaker
But yeah, it's been around since the 60s. Very, very interesting as well. I've been on bit of a documentary deep dive. Then we were watching a thing last night on Hitler's evil in a circle. It's actually really like, I'm not the biggest fan of World War Two and all the shit that went on in Germany.
00:50:34
Speaker
But it's very interesting to see how they rose to
Robot League Plans
00:50:37
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power and all the stuff that was going on before they got all well, as you know, super evil then. But before the shit went down, like how they actually got into power was quite interesting.
00:50:48
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Interesting. Yeah, yeah like yeah Netflix documentaries. yeah they're addicting for sure and yeah i know 100 like i thoroughly enjoy them like i'm not like true crime and shit like that i don't like war documentaries because makes me sad like i'd rather not focus on humans being dickheads sure so yeah like i'd rather like to think that humans are less shit than that but yeah the evidence is mounting that we are just that shit yeah Yeah, we yeah we we tend to do that.
00:51:18
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we We are the problem with the planet. But yeah, anyway, I've got a robot league coming up this week, so I need to still design a robot this week and build a set robot. Yeah, finally have some people who are actually going compete. So we decided to move it to literally I can throw a rock from here to the restaurant just up the road because screw that noise. I'm not driving it around like...
00:51:38
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like two hours yeah so yeah load it take it up there i've spoken to them we're having another parking lot there's pizzas there's yeah it'll be like and then i need to build some robots so that i can defeat everybody i'm trying not to just go like full full hog machine everything i'm trying to be competitive and like 3d print some shit so it'll break so they don't right i'm trying to sandbag but it's not easy Yeah.
00:52:05
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Also, I can't buy the servos I need, which is tedious. Oh, also, Roger, when you listen to this, I blame you for this next bit of the conversation. I got sent the plans for a DLG, Kurt.
00:52:17
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oh wo Would you like the set plans once we make them for laser? No, not at all. not No, I don't want that. no Not in the slightest. Definitely. putting a big mountain of cocaine in front of a coke addict. No, thank you.
00:52:32
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with No, I have my little HLG. and that's um um okay Come on, come to the DLG side. This is a 1.4 meter DLG. It looks like super easy to build.
00:52:44
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Of course it does. hold it's cool It's called the Orca. ORCA. So yeah, Roger's going to send plans and then I'm to laser cut them and I'm going to build himself a 1.4 meter DLG again.
00:52:57
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Because I haven't had DLG for a while. I kind of let someone fly it and it got made into pieces. That is like one of the more, if like ah for RC, that was one of my favorite forms of like rc is just like a sailplane essentially it's just like something you just whip into the air and then just ther thermal hunt it's like it's so relaxing and then you catch a thermal and it is like the biggest it is so cool to be like this thing is like a thousand feet up i threw it to whatever 100 200 feet oh it's cool you go sloping and you decide to land because your neck's sore from looking up totally yeah so we the last time i actually properly flew my dlgs was
00:53:35
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must be like two and a half years ago now. we went Dave and I drove down to Durban to deliver a machine. We took our DLGs. We flew on the beachfront a bunch of times because you've the nice onshore breeze hitting the dunes.
00:53:47
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You can soar around there. And then on the way back, we stopped on Van Rienand's Pass, which is you gain like a stupid amount of altitude in a very short span. And we found a spot we could pull over and we flew there for about 45 minutes.
00:54:00
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And to the point where you could barely see the glider. Like I think we should see now cause I can barely see it cause it's just as eternal uplift. It was great. yeah yeah that was a yeah but da that's ah So now that I'm making molds and I have a vacuum chuck that can do 700 watt, I'm thinking, why don't you inform me to DLG out of composite.
00:54:22
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I also have a vacuum pump so I can bag the wings, but yeah, I'm trying desperately to be responsible at ultimate hard. Yeah. See, we'll bitch on the next podcast about not having enough time to do like work and then, then rant about things like this and like, I'm going to build a giant, whatever, whatever. Well, something's got to keep us entertained. Oh, no doubt. Yeah, no doubt. I was, so I'm considering going and running the Tufnel tonight, but I know better than that.
00:54:46
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Yeah. Cause it's been a long day and I don't really want to, I don't have spare material, so I don't really want to stuff it up. I'd rather go in there fresh tomorrow morning with a three cups of coffee in me and yeah get it going in the morning and go from there and hopefully have great success.
00:55:04
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It's probably the better better chance of that happening yeah in the morning. Yeah, try be responsible shit like that. Yeah. Because Sunday was a ball egg. But anyway. Cool, man. What have you been Googling?
00:55:19
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it's I have been Googling nothing at all podcast related. ah Just a bunch of I always wanted a pair of like gymnast rings, like wooden rings. Um, so I went, to i just, I, I liked that kind of exercise. Um, so I finally, I finally went and bought myself a pair. So was looking at the difference between 28 millimeter and 32 millimeter and all that stupid jazz and different kinds of straps and ceiling anchor mounts and all kinds of weirdness. So yeah, my, my whole search is hanging in the background and all.
00:55:51
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ah They're actually, you can't see them. They're behind the, yeah they're behind the middle right here. Okay. Nice. Yeah. I just try to, try to, try to add a little bit of mass to my little bird-like frame. So I got two, I got two little daughters. going to get boyfriends one day. I can't be smaller than their boyfriends or girlfriends. Who knows how the world goes. So. Well, you need to be able to move either of them.
00:56:12
Speaker
Totally. Yeah. I got to be a little scarier. So yeah. yeah Plus, you know, side benefit of exercise. I've always, I've always been big into like running, but that doesn't really do much for, her it's good for the It's good for the internal organs, but it doesn't do much for anything else. so Yeah, so just a ton of that kind of health-related junk. but about How about you?
00:56:31
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ah Yeah, Wordle. I'm on eight days again. Oh, you're starting that up again. All right, right on. Yes. Trying to buy a server from Microbotics. I was looking up Talon grips. was looking up where Portugal was because my mother and I had arguments at Quiznart as to which one of the numbered countries on the map things were.
00:56:46
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Yeah. looking up leak detecting sensors for my home assistant for next to my mill fair enough yeah um and then i was looking up mmm usa because i saw a post by henry holsters about yeah they're going yeah slowing down or whatever yeah yeah uh yeah interesting but anyway let's not uh throw fuel on that fire so yeah that's all i've been that's all that's in my googling um cool so yeah where can people find your your things and stuff You can find my lack of anything to sell at a confounded machine.com, but you can, you can sign up for the thing. And you've heard me say this thousand times. So yeah, all the information's there. Poke around should answer most of your questions.
00:57:27
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And if you're not send me an email, I love hearing from people. So how about you, Jamie? Oh yeah. You can find me at a jspeceng.com or jspec underscore engineering on Instagram.
00:57:40
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We've got some anchor points available still, and we've got some more in the works. So If you can't get one in this batch, you'll be able to get one probably second week of July by the looks of it.
00:57:52
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um can yeah There's also on our website, there's a bunch of fancy shirts. There's an ISO tire. Yeah, all sorts of fun stuff. So go check out our website and see if there's anything that piques your interest.
00:58:03
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Then also you can find the Patreon for the podcast. There's a link on our podcast website, theloanemachinists.com. um And yeah, podcast makes the wheel and the bus go round and round.
00:58:15
Speaker
Sorry, Patreon makes the wheels on the bus. Patreon makes the wheels on the podcast go round and round. There we go. Finally got the sentence out. oh yeah So ah what are you up to today, Kurt?
00:58:28
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today once we finish our little after show i'm going to uh just run a ton of pen production because it's fairly automated and i can just let it fly and then i'll do a little bit of uh finishing so i can get the this next little batch of pens sent out um it's one i'm excited about because it's the customer they're like i said last podcast or my commercial customer and they just give me free reign they said build us cool things just what's whatever's cool so i'm just gonna do a bunch of fun anodizing which will give me a bunch of pictures which let me post them online which is let a lot of people message me that because they're not going to be available and people are going to get mad. But hey, you know what?
00:59:00
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Them's the bricks. So unfortunately, that's how it has to work. But I'll do more of them than they're going to take. So I will have some extra stuff. Yeah, I'm excited about that. It's kind of a it's kind of a fun week. How about you?
00:59:12
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How about you? Other other than sleeping? ah Yeah, going to snooze and then I'm going to machine like six or seven or eight hours of tufnel parts tomorrow. um And then i think while that's running, I might try and get Bertha set up to run the the pads for the next batch anchor points. So those can go off to heat treats this week.
00:59:34
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I'm desperately trying to get the bodies off to heat treat this week as well, but I don't know if that's going to happen. i want to make a new fixture for them. So yeah, that'll be top of the queue for tomorrow.
00:59:48
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I have an anchor point question, but we can save it for the after show because it's not all that pertinent. Okay, that's fine. ah Yeah, come see it in the after show. Yeah. yeah All right, sweet. Thank you, everybody, for listening.
01:00:00
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01:00:11
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01:00:23
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