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Classic ep: the plane crash (Emmerdale 30 December 1993)
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In the first bonus episode featuring a classic episode/story, Lizzie and Simon look back at arguably the biggest moment in Emmerdale's history: the 1993 plane crash! We simply don't know who most of these people are and we could barely see a thing, but we loved exploring Emmerdale's history (RIP fake sheep).
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Introduction to Bonus Episode
00:00:00
Speaker
Hi everybody and welcome to our special bonus episode of Dingle All The Way. I'm Lizzie. I'm Simon. And this week we have, instead of um going through all of the last two weeks of what's been going on in Emmerdale Village, we'll be doing that in our next proper episode, we are re-watching an old episode on the recommendation of absolutely loads of you who've been saying that this would be a fun thing for us to do.
00:00:26
Speaker
So think it was James Ellis amongst others. It's always James. always James Ellis. We hear from him so often and every time. It just has the most wonderful wealth of insider knowledge about Emmerdale, about how it's all made.
00:00:40
Speaker
um But he suggested the plane crash, as did a few others. So thank you to all of you.
Significance of the 1993 Plane Crash Episode
00:00:44
Speaker
Simon, do you have any, like, before we get into maybe... the specific like plot points that happened do you have any observations on what it was like to watch watch this episode it was first broadcast on the 30th of December 1993 so it was a while ago um yeah what were your overall thoughts yeah were you even born by then I mean I was i was about to turn one year oh my gosh, I was in my dotage. I was, in fact, eight years old at that point.
00:01:13
Speaker
And um yeah, it's interesting watching this because it's so famous in soap world. I mean, I don't know if it it reached your non-soap viewing until relatively recently, but for anyone who...
00:01:25
Speaker
like me grew up watching soap, albeit not this one, the plane crash in Emmerdale was a huge deal. It was the time at which it went from being regarded this quite sort of slow paced traditional farming soap into being something much more exciting.
00:01:39
Speaker
And, um, I had misremembered how many people died in it. i or I thought they wiped out like half the cast, which as it turns out, they didn't. They didn't. Yeah, is it was fun to watch something that has such a big place in soap history. But this, going back to 1993, it's five years before I started watching Neighbours.
00:01:58
Speaker
It's gosh, like 16, 17 years before I started watching Amadell. So I had never seen a soap episode from this long ago before. And my first impression was, gosh, it's slower than it is nowadays. That's, you know, it might be that big dawn of an exciting era, but slow paced. But before, actually, before we get into the episode itself, what did you make of the opening titles?
00:02:23
Speaker
Oh my word, loved the opening titles. I loved the retro theme tune. Yes. I loved it when there was a paraglider that appeared to be trapped in a sleeping bag in midair.
00:02:36
Speaker
I loved the cute, fun, bright colours on the Lycra on the random rock climber. was going to see such a loving close-up of the Lycra on that rock climber. It really lingered.
00:02:48
Speaker
Yeah, it did linger on a climber's bum for some reason. um But yeah, i thought it was I thought it was really nice. There was one bit when... um i think it goes to an ad break whilst you're watching the barns burning and like the horses screaming and it just has some really nice, wholesome music.
00:03:06
Speaker
So that was quite um a juxtaposition. But yeah, really enjoyed the theme and it goes on for a good long time. Doesn't it? We can really soak it in And ah British shapes tend not to change their opening titles very often. Like the Emmerdale one, I think it's been almost 10 years, they've done exactly the same one now.
00:03:24
Speaker
Certainly Neighbours would change theirs a lot. The theme tune was always the same song with different variations of it. They'd always put new casts in the opening titles and the style of the opening titles would change. every couple of years whereas emerald is like this is the countryside here is a lycocard rock climber here are some sheep yeah i was thinking like do they have many rock climbers in the plot um I mean, there's they're all there's like Armscliff, Greg and stuff.
00:03:51
Speaker
Oh, no, wait, that's close to where they film it. It's not actually close to where it's set. Like, is that a big theme, do you think? Well, they've opened up The Hide, which is like this cafe slash activity centre where they, as far as I can recall, they maybe have like a fake rock climbing wall.
00:04:05
Speaker
Yeah, true. Why people paying to do it in a fake one when moments from their door, apparently, you can abseil down and i assume, ascend up to rocks to your house's eye. Yeah.
00:04:17
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, so true. Yeah, I guess the slow paced, like, credits match the slow pace of it in general. um But sort of, I guess, moving more into discussion of the episode, I really enjoyed how slow paced it was.
Character Dynamics and Humor
00:04:31
Speaker
okay feel like maybe that's a bit more me than a modern... i Should you be listening to The Archers, is my question? Oh, I do. yeah um i think it's just, yeah, it was, um and I don't know what it was, something about it, maybe the fact it was quite slow-paced, just made it so much more believable than any episode of Emmerdale that I've watched.
00:04:54
Speaker
Yes, we were immediately thrust into the excitement of a discussion about someone having borrowed a vacuum cleaner. Yeah, was like is my life and I think yours. a lot more than like murder affairs.
00:05:08
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's interesting that like the range of tone you can have... It's like they were as animated about that borrowed vacuum cleaner as people today are about having stolen a kidney. It was really like the same tone.
00:05:20
Speaker
Yeah, and I thought that was lovely. was really livid about that. In the mid-90s, could people not afford their own vacuum cleaner? Maybe it was like you know a community object. i seem to recall, I don't want to brag, but I think we did have our own vacuum cleaner growing up.
00:05:35
Speaker
Goodness, you did live in a house of plenty. We were lacked for nothing in the world of carpet suction cleaners. um Also in that scene, i noticed Ma, who can't remember her actual name.
00:05:49
Speaker
Annie, I think. Yeah, in this sort of eternal discussion, obviously, about who's going to drive them to the airport, which, why is that such a major ah discussion for them to be having?
00:06:00
Speaker
um She says, oh, there's just enough time before we leave to have a nice cup of Yorkshire tea. And I thought, I don't know if that's... Did they do like product placement then? Sponcon? Maybe. don't know.
00:06:12
Speaker
um i mean, it's sort of a given, you'd think, in Yorkshire that people have Yorkshire tea. Well, it is the best tea, and I drink it the time. I agree to disagree. Not a fan, if I'm honest. because you didn't live Yorkshire. and I never have.
00:06:23
Speaker
um But maybe one day I will. Who knows? I did think it was nice to see a bit more of the Sugden family. So that that was, you know, Annie Sugden was the older lady. We had heard her... child Joe who was mentioned in a recent episode when Victoria was talking about the feud that their dad had had with Uncle Joe that was him um and I will say terribly dyed hair and looked like it'd been cut by a pair of sheep shearers so that was sad for yeah there's certainly a lot going on there yeah ah Yes, it was very unforgiving. Even the, I'd say, um twilight sort of lighting that they had even at peak ah daylight. it was a
00:07:02
Speaker
can still tell it was that. They certainly weren't going for like the full floodlights that we get nowadays. It was more like if you so if you can see someone in the scene, that's a happy coincidence. It's a bonus.
Plane Crash Impact and Realism
00:07:11
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't know whether it was a plot device that it...
00:07:14
Speaker
was like almost impossible to see what was going on at any point like I know that it was the night time and everybody was very confused and I certainly joined them in that confusion because there were so many times where laptop brightness was on full I was like craning in to see what was going on and I still couldn't tell anything that was happening it doesn't help I guess that we do not know who almost any of these characters are but who did you know in this episode um i recognized kim obviously and you know recognized her voice first was i was like oh she's got the same voice and then um was like oh yeah and that is her face she looks so nice so sweet um loved loved horses even back then loved horses even back then um a minute i kind of i wouldn't have recognized frank but had like known him by repute
00:08:01
Speaker
in terms of like who's frank Frank who um you know Frank Tate who she like married oh right yes at this point they're in between like divorce and reconciliation um but didn't realize how much older than her he is I think when they got married the first time this is like a year later he's 49 and she's 27 oh dear with all the 90s which is fine you know if you love someone but I didn't realize that that was a dynamic for them so I recognize Kim I also recognize Eric of course
00:08:33
Speaker
Of course, who I'd say looks almost exactly the same now, just like with a white hair. This is going to be one of my points, is that he in current 2025 just turned 80, which means at this point in time he was presumably only 48 or 49. Yeah. He looked like an old, old man. He does, and I couldn't work out if that's just because I know him as an old, old man. But then Kim looked very young, and I know that she is, least not old, but she's well 50 something now yeah and looks 20 something in the show whereas Eric looked maybe 70 we're saying that that he's around 10 years less than 10 years older than you yes isn't that horrifying and you don't look close to that
00:09:17
Speaker
What was quite funny is in my notes I was going to say he's less than 10 years older than me and I was so worried he'd be like, yeah, you and you look that. thats And I can tell. we But he was also very doddery and I didn't know if it's because he appeared to have a head wound that nobody was tending to. um He was just wandering around saying the same thing over and over again and then after a while someone was like, do you want to just like wait at home instead of boggling us here?
00:09:43
Speaker
Yeah. Now we should say for those who've not seen this sub episode, that is referred to as the plane crash episode, but for the first half, it's just people going about their day. So we've got, as discussed, people arranging a lift to the airport, feuding over a vacuum cleaner. um Eric's having a bit of a tussle with his wife over, she's just discovered, I think, that he's done some fraud or stealing something. There was a lovely line, remember the stolen Roman bracelet?
00:10:08
Speaker
Don't know what's going on there, but presumably he's you know yeah like raided an archaeological dig or something or just like nabbed it from the British Museum I don't know um and what else going on Kim is just is having a yeah as you say in some sort of weird dynamic with her ex-fiancé ex-husband whatever it was and husband what else was going on before the plane actually fell from the sky um there was a woman writing a letter to someone called Christopher who she was like gonna leave for that American buy
00:10:39
Speaker
Oh, that's right. That's Chris Tate, I think, so Frank's son. And then halfway through the episode, and I would say at intervals throughout the rest of the episode, ah plane crashes. It just says, continually parts of that are falling from the sky for the next 10 to 15 minutes.
00:10:57
Speaker
Yeah, I wrote in my notes, there was really no build-up at all to the plane crash. It just, like, sort of happened. But then i was like, that's really dumb, because that's also what would happen in real life. But I think I wasn't expecting it to keep on happening. But I guess, was it just, like, bit flaming bits of metal kept on falling on parts? guess so, but from where? From the Just hovered in the sky for ten minutes. and Unless we were seeing it crash from very similar perspectives, but don't think we were, because that that weird family who came out of the house and was like, what's going on?
00:11:27
Speaker
Well, I'm going to go find out. It's like clearly what's going on is everything's on fire. You can see that. had no idea they were. But I wish them nothing but the best, of course. I'm glad they survived.
00:11:38
Speaker
Oh, there was also Archie and someone. With some, I would say, very homophobic discourse around like pretending they were a couple and which led them to storming out of the pub.
00:11:50
Speaker
Yeah, I think i so I did look this up. One of them does die. yes gosh and I think um one of them was like previously going out with the woman in the bar who was like oh you guys are together and they'd broken up because she suspected that which doesn't make it okay but gives context And we know that the guy who died is called Archie because the second man, I think called David, his only line after the plane crash was repeating the word Archie over and over again.
Unique Moments and Historical Context
00:12:23
Speaker
Scene after scene, he'd come back be yelling, Archie, Archie. I feel like the script writers really had... a light working day on this one because it's just basically Archie Archie and have you seen Elizabeth?
00:12:36
Speaker
thank I think that have you seen Elizabeth might be the next episode because I didn't see that. Oh really? Because you watched her on a couple of episodes. Yeah I got addicted to it mainly just because I was like I'm determined to decipher something that's happening in this dark dark scene and then there was finally an episode where it was the morning and I was like well now I have to keep watching because I can't tell what's going on.
00:12:57
Speaker
um yeah Something I did want, or two things I wanted to note before the plane crashed itself. One was how cute Smokey the dog was. He was a sweetheart. And I do understand potentially died in the in the plane crash. No. Which is, I'd say, greater sadness than Archie, um who, granted, know nothing about him.
00:13:19
Speaker
I'd still much rather Smokey had survived. And the other was, I can't remember who was, we went to someone who was... very inexpertly squirting squirty cream onto cupcakes, just like in a line, long of cupcakes.
00:13:33
Speaker
And it was, like nobody wants squirty cream on a cupcake in the first place, let alone you're doing this hours before presumably it's being presented somewhere. That will have clearly just squished everywhere and like...
00:13:44
Speaker
I have absolutely no recollection of this. Did you briefly hallucinate while watching the episode? Look, it's not impossible, and I'd be the last to say. ah yeah It was like a panning shot in before a bunch of... I can't remember else was in the scene.
00:13:59
Speaker
And that's all I've got to say about that, I guess. if it didn't Potentially it didn't happen. Potentially it was trauma-induced. I need to go back and try and find this. It was so unappetising. It's like, make some butter icing, for heaven's sake.
00:14:12
Speaker
Yeah, um maybe you should take them up on that. I hope she died in the crash. I can't remember who it was. It will have been an apt punishment for her. um Yeah,
00:14:25
Speaker
can't really remember anything else that happened. Hang on. I did find, I don't know if you'll agree with me, that Shelley, I thought, had mannerisms, Shelley the barmaid, her mannerisms were so like charities, and she had a bit of a look of charity. Ah, yeah, that's true.
00:14:41
Speaker
Do we know if they're related? Well, I don't think any Dingles were in the show until the following year and when Zach was the first one. so I was wondering where the Dingles were because they're like the main people now in Emmerdale, aren't they? That's why we call this podcast what we call it. Yeah, I i think they were part of that like post plane crash, like re revitalization of the show, and bringing in the Dingles, which obviously works, you know, they're still going strong 25 years later. Yeah.
00:15:08
Speaker
yeah done although back to the sugtons at one point um someone's like how's the baby and the response was like oh yeah robert slept through it i know i was like oh my gosh what a legacy he's got in the show he slept through the plane crash which is huge and i think in some ways a metaphor for what sorry um well now you're asking no I think he just like trauma is always happening around him and in a lot of ways he's just sleeping through it all yeah I mean I did love that moment so that was his dad and I assume his mum but um yeah Jack Sugden I think was there and someone else actually who I spotted in the background so we had um Viv was helping uh Kim out was it
00:15:59
Speaker
with throwing water nearby flaming bales of hay and stuff um and she had a bunch of kids with her one of whom was donna and donna is the mum of april it was nice that she was you know there back as a child and viv i think i looked up she'd only joined the show relatively recently but she was there for 18 years so she was there when i started watching um until sadly they in in a horrible flashback for her i assume she burnt to death in a and and in arson so yeah just you know she thought she'd escaped to the fiery death but no just waiting for a mere 18 years later it came for her round two speaking of fiery deaths it did seem curious to me that they were like oh no the caravan's on fire and they're like quick kim you you simply must get into the caravan whilst it's on fire they were kind of trying to stop her and she was intent on getting whatever
00:16:51
Speaker
was in there out. I don't know why. she's very gradually. she was certainly not in a rush to do that. No, yeah, she was taking a sweet, sweet time. Yeah, but I mean, the fire was genuinely quite harrowing. Thinking about, like, the horses burning to death was really great. That was lot. was like, I bet they got complaints about that. I mean, I didn't watch the subsequent episodes to see if the horses managed to escape, but did they? No, just one of them had survived. I know.
00:17:20
Speaker
yeah i bet they i but i i I wouldn't think they'd do that nowadays because people are so hot on no pun intended so hot on a animal cruelty stuff yeah although don't think it was showing it in like a positive light of being like isn't this so great I don't think anybody it would have watched that episode and been like Emmadale loves animal cruelty I think they would have just been like wow horrible things happen But I think even like they got complaints about Piper being supposedly murdered. Obviously, we know that we were very sad to see Piper come back from the dead, but um which people will not have with. I'm so sorry for the Piper slander yet again. But yeah, I mean, feel even the way that we feel even though very clearly it was not shown as a positive thing. So I don't know.
00:18:04
Speaker
Yeah, true. um ah noticed quite a few things that were featured in it that aren't featured in it anymore. So they mention a place called Skipdale a lot.
00:18:18
Speaker
And I don't think that really we hear about like going to Connaughton or Houghton. That's true. yeah We never hear about going to Skipdale. And I looked up and it's meant to be like a neighbouring village.
00:18:29
Speaker
Oh, curious. But then I was like, they're also mentioning Beckendale a lot, which of course is what the village was called at that point. Yeah, exactly. So this must have sometime after the soap was renamed from Emmerdale Farm to Emmerdale, I think, but before the village itself had a name change. Well, they renamed it because the people living there were like, we don't want to be known just for the plane crash. Wow. Because it was being called with the Beckendale plane crash and they were like, we need a rebrand.
00:18:59
Speaker
Gosh, fair enough. They just named it after the Subton farm.
Realistic Portrayal of Death and Disaster
00:19:04
Speaker
Yeah, something I also enjoyed in the amongst the dead were several incredibly fake looking sheep.
00:19:15
Speaker
They were really, you know. I think the low light conditions served to convince me that they could have been real sheep. So did you watch on YouTube or on ITVX?
00:19:26
Speaker
On YouTube. I think maybe ITVX has slightly better quality because some of it, i guess yeah, some of it I could see better what was going on. And those sheep, they looked like those like shawing the sheep footstools that were all the rage, like 15 years ago.
00:19:40
Speaker
Okay. I might need to rewatch it on ITVX just for joy of that. It was a lot. of um But yeah, I, I, I did think it was curious the ways in which people had died. Cause usually these things like,
00:19:53
Speaker
part of a building will fall on them or know they'll be actually struck by the plane. But these sheep and certain of the people totally intact no obvious cause of death other than just like shock. I don't know.
00:20:07
Speaker
Yeah. Was it like, um, like an explosion sort shock wave that threw them backwards. And I was wondering like, what was it that smashed all the windows in the wall pack and threw everybody to the floor? And I thought that everybody in the wall pack had died. who but then because they're all just like lifeless on the floor. But then after the ad break, they all got up and I was like, cool.
00:20:27
Speaker
Yeah, actually. Yeah, we're fine. And it was actually, I say, rather betterly bely rather better done than um the helicopter crash of, I'm not sure, 2015 or something. They did a helicopter crash which killed out several yeah which killed several cast members, including Val. Eric's, don't know if it's his next wife, a future wife of Eric, was killed in a hall of mirrors spliced by a broken mirror, which was...
00:20:52
Speaker
Very sad. Val was an amazing character. um And the effects on that were so bad. if you If you can find a clip of the helicopter crashing, like after that, the stuff after that was quite done quite well because that was again a case where people died more from the wreckage of a building falling on them with stuff.
00:21:08
Speaker
But the actual shot of a helicopter falling in, i would say, looked less convincing than what they were doing in 1993. Do you think that that's on ITVX? It probably is. oh Probably. It was a big deal.
00:21:19
Speaker
yeah And... the The aftermath, the episode. So um Diana, who was a later wife of Jack Sugden, and her sister Val, then married to Eric, were trapped in this hall of mirrors, which was very effective both before and after the ah helicopter crash. because They were like chasing around this hall of mirrors. It was very well done.
00:21:38
Speaker
Wow, it sounds terrifying. Yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot. But it was very like character driven. death you see what I mean or like climaxes because of some of these things like the limo crash there was some like good character stuff and also Susie died and this was like good character stuff and also Ruby died like basically I'm sorry to say non-white lesbians that people don't care about died in Ruby it's a real shame yeah yeah wow gutting um yeah I was thinking i wonder if they'll I'll see any sort of like callbacks from the limo crash plane crash they're both like
00:22:17
Speaker
Obviously, Limbo Crash wasn't nearly as sort of like much of a moment in Emmerdale history, but they do love putting a callback in.
Character Storylines and Confessions
00:22:26
Speaker
But I don't think I really noticed much.
00:22:28
Speaker
And well, the biggest callback to the storyline of the plane crash came in, I think, 2010, 2011, when... when it was finally revealed whether or not Eric had killed his wife because there was Elizabeth because she died as in the plane crash episodes but there were rumors at the time and persisted ever since that Eric had in fact killed her before she got to the plane crash because of the fraud whatever and i think it was her son or someone came back obviously I had no idea what was going on when I was watching this because I hadn't watched for very long I barely knew who the characters were but
00:23:01
Speaker
And it all came out, Eric confessed to Val of Hall of Mirrors' death fame that he had set off with the intention of killing Elizabeth, but found her body and she had been killed by by debris from the plane or something.
00:23:13
Speaker
Wow, so it's sort of a win-win for him, I guess. Yeah, ah real he seemed sad about it at the time, but um but you know everyone likes someone that they want to be murdered dying of other causes. That's real question.
00:23:27
Speaker
coup de grace is that the right use of that term i don't know what that means but i think it's something just that's crossed off your to-do list um i really enjoyed seeing just like a bit more of the village the countryside like there are tractors going down the road like filling in bridges with concrete pipes, like broad sweeps of, I mean, and I guess it's because at this point they were still film filming it at Eshot before they built the rest of the village.
00:24:01
Speaker
um And so like the village just seems a lot bigger and it does feel a more like a real village, I guess because it was one, um but like the streets and stuff, buildings around the wall pack are all are like a lot taller. Yeah.
00:24:14
Speaker
that kind of thing and i enjoyed that you get a sense of like it was expansive land and it was quite big um yeah the village felt bigger but the sets felt smaller like the wall pack felt so much smaller and than it does now and like people's houses they were sort bit crowded or how people were i thought that that's because they were filming inside yeah i guess maybe well they might well have been yeah um i don't know yeah but it would make sense from how they were doing some of them.
00:24:43
Speaker
Whereas now, obviously, they're doing on a studio and they don't have one of the walls, and so they can have a leisurely led... Yeah, except, oh yes, James messaged about this as well, didn't he, about how some of them were really big, and then you've got Aaron and Robert's incredibly surreal flat, which is, as far as I tell, alongside of a corridor.
00:25:00
Speaker
Yeah, and you do think if you're purpose-building sets of things, why would you make it so small and pokey, but sure. And just very confusing. Like, why is there a balcony? next the bedroom that people can have sit on.
00:25:13
Speaker
Yeah, it is very strange. it's like split level, but not quite. And I think, is it because they live above Caleb and Ruby's enormous space? And then they're just like, we don't even have two, like space for two stories. So well just have like a mezzanine on our one story. You're like, what if a house could be entirely landing?
00:25:32
Speaker
Exactly. That was the vision. And we love to see it. The only other I wrote was, there was a lovely 1993 use of a car phone that was something special to see because you could tell like that was because they were fancy not many people had any sort of mobile phone in 93 certainly but Kim's got a car phone yeah good old Kim of course she would have a car phone she's a modern woman she's a businesswoman and business yeah women in business women in STEM my last observation I wrote down that was I think I accidentally wrote some down that were for
00:26:10
Speaker
like following episodes, one that was definitely for this one, was that they mentioned the malt shovel as an alternative pub to the Woolpack. Oh yes, Seth was going off there, wasn't he? Yeah, and I couldn't tell if I'd misheard it, but I think they maybe also mentioned a wine bar.
00:26:26
Speaker
um But I might have misheard that. But they definitely talked about the malt shovel, and i was like, wow, there are so many other businesses that we just don't hear about anymore. Maybe they've gone out business in the last 30 years. I mean, a lot of people have at that time, I guess.
00:26:39
Speaker
Yeah, but maybe it didn't so survive the credit crunch, I guess. And actually, that was another character that I did recognise was Alan Turner, the landlord who was very excited about his Dickens celebration, who was still in it when I started
Nostalgia and Evolution of Emmerdale
00:26:54
Speaker
watching. It's a very old man who would occasionally come in and do one or two lines. And he has, I was interested to see how how he would act in these because when he was when I was first watching, he had this sort of very intense naturalism that made everything you say seem incredibly subdued.
00:27:09
Speaker
which is he did sort of have them but was more yeah it was more there in his later days where he's clearly resenting being on set and having anyone else in the cast and i did really did an interview with him at the time where he was like the younger cast don't even know who i am because i get so little audition for me and i do remember remember one of his scenes where referred to aaron rather than aaron which showed that he had absolutely no time to learn who anyone else was But a lovely grounding in biblical pronunciation. Completely. And that's Alan for you.
00:27:37
Speaker
Yeah. So yeah, it's interesting to see him doing actually having lines and being part of the show rather than just some sort of sad legacy they couldn't get rid of, which is certainly what he was in 2010. So sad.
00:27:50
Speaker
Yeah, overall, I really enjoyed it. And I think I might start watching classic Emmerdale. say I just think it's really nice. i know that it probably does absolutely nothing for you.
00:28:02
Speaker
i like the slow pace. i like I like the vibes. Although having said that, um the classic M&L that's on ITVX is not from this time period. It's from like much later.
00:28:15
Speaker
So who knows? What's a gal to do? What's a gal to do? I also read online that it's a common misconception that the plane crash is when things started like to move away from farming life and to move towards other things and that they had already tried to start doing that over the previous years and had like more LGBT storylines and more high drama stuff but that it kind of wasn't really working so then they did the plane crash and then it was like we're just not even going to call it Emmerdale Farm anymore.
00:28:46
Speaker
So it's like was they were already moving towards that, but this then like was a catalyst. I see. Well, sorry for perpetuating that misapprehension. is disgusting that you did well. Yeah, my overall takeaway, as you know from giving up until the second episode, where it's like i just don't need to watch any more of this, is that I mean, I enjoyed watching the this sort of seismic moment, but I do like the faster pace of modern day Emmerdale, I think, and the sort of what feels to me soapier.
Future Episode Ideas and Closing
00:29:15
Speaker
dialogue i'm there for the for the nonsense not for the naturalism whereas maybe i appreciate both in different ways so yeah true now i've said that loud i do like the stories actually do feel a bit more like serious and things that could affect real people but i guess there's a limit to how much i want to hear about a borrowed vacuum cleaner whereas that for me is my kryptonite
00:29:39
Speaker
So yeah, we'd certainly be up for watching. Well, we will, I'm sure, be watching more classic Emmerdale. We'd love to know more suggestions. Thanks to everyone who went with Plane Crash. I think, well, I don't know if you'd agree, I'd be quite keen to watch slightly more recent ones where we're more likely to know more of the characters just because it's bit easier to talk about them, I guess.
00:29:57
Speaker
But I guess also, you know, we don't don't want to neglect the first decades. Maybe there's something lovely from the 60s or 70s that we should be watching. I think we should probably watch the first ever episode.
00:30:08
Speaker
That's true, we should do that at some point. um But yeah, then I'm quite keen to maybe go for like 10 or 20 years ago rather than 30. Yeah, it may even be an episode that I've watched before and you haven't, that could be interesting. Oh yeah, that could be fun because you could give me a bit more backdrop.
00:30:21
Speaker
Yeah. um So yeah, we'll be doing these ad hoc as and when and should also say that we have released this one ah partly for International Soap Week.
00:30:32
Speaker
Tuesday is Tony Warren Day who you know created Coronation Street and but it's a chance to to celebrate the history of soaps and favourite episodes from the past. I don't think this was either of our favourite episodes on i account, I'm not having seen it, but maybe it's one of your favourite episodes now.
00:30:46
Speaker
I think it might be. and So yeah, keep an eye on our socials for more international soap. We can okay socials, we only have one social, Instagram.
00:30:58
Speaker
Look at our social. Look at our singular social, dinglealltheway.pod on Instagram and you can get in touch at dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com. And we'll be back at, again, end of next week with a review.
00:31:12
Speaker
ah review. Probably not a review, but certainly an episode. An overview. An overview and a recap and hot takes on the very limited number of episodes that we're getting in in these weeks because of various sport things going on.
00:31:28
Speaker
Blooming sports. guess you. like Enough. Bye. Bye.