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Politics, Philosophy, and the New World Order w/ Al Borealis
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On this episode we have returning guest Al Borealis. Al is the host of Forum Borealis, where you will find many great interviews with authors, researchers, scholars and experts on topics such as philosophy, psychology, science, history, politics, and much more.
Connect with Al and Forum Borealis:
Website: https://www.forumborealis.net/
Podcast: https://www.forumborealis.net/podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/forum-borealis/id1459921895
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Al_Pal_Borealis
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Transcript
Introduction and Initial Discussion
00:00:00
Speaker
Anyway. Okay. Okay. So it's recording. All right. Um, I think we're live sort of, yes, we are. Uh, welcome back to connecting minds guys. Christian, you're not here. Al Borealis returning guest is on the show. Al, thank you so much for joining us again, man. Thank you for having me back.
Engaging Conversations with Kindred Spirits
00:00:21
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Yeah, we've already been talking for almost an hour and it's like I'm sure if we were in the same room, we could just probably shoot the shit until we collapse into sleep. That's right. That's right. You know, I've had that in my life.
00:00:40
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happen many times when you meet kindred spirits or whatever they say in English. You know, one of the signs, this is just in case someone in the audience doesn't know this, one of the signs of that is that it's like you sit up all day, all night, talking, talking, talking, and you don't get tired.
00:00:59
Speaker
You don't get tired from it. You get energized by it. If you have that, and sometimes when people meet, especially if it's the opposite gender, oh, this is my soul mate. Maybe especially girls. And I kind of project more into it than it is because
00:01:19
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By nature, we are preordained, so to speak, to resonate with a certain amount of people, to dissonate with a certain amount of people. And then there's a spectre, right? And in between there, you have neutrality, of course.
00:01:37
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And then again, it can also be on different areas, right? It's not just always a hundred percent. You and me now, we were talking a lot about a certain area, right? What if we took a completely different area and there we may either dissonate or it may be boring. So it's
00:01:58
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It's complicated is all I'm saying. Sorry for hijacking your intro. No, no, no. This is what I enjoy, just having real talk, man, without all the formalities and sort of crap.
The Spiritual Symbolism of Bees
00:02:11
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I was going to ask you, what are you reading right now? What are you researching? That's a good question.
00:02:22
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literally reading about bees. I'm reading, it's something called bee work. It goes back to the, is it the 1400? Do you like the insect?
00:02:39
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Yeah, it's spirituality, but they are using the bee creature lifestyle existence as a metaphor, or not even a metaphor, it's like nature is offering us an analogy via the beast and the life of the beast. So yeah, it's very fascinating.
00:03:09
Speaker
So is it like you slave all your life serving? No, no, no, no. It's deep. It has to be, no, no, no. It has to be symbolism and unknown things about the beast that I didn't know. And yeah, it goes to deeply spiritual stuff, esoteric stuff. It goes back to the, I think it's either the 1200s or the 1400s. Fascinating, bro. The hive and the cube and
00:03:38
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a lot of stuff. I didn't know much about bees before I read this, but yeah. This is, I believe, one of the reasons bees and honey and stuff like that is a frequent picture in alchemical stories and symbolism.
00:03:58
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So I don't know how deep they go in the actual history of humanity, sort of working with bees. Do you know? Because for me, back in the day, before we could hybridize fruit really well, I suppose that was one of our main sources of carbohydrate. It would be like a gold mine to discover a hive or to be able to actually cultivate honey. So do you know anything about that side of things?
00:04:27
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No, because they're not going into anything sociological, historical, anthropological. They just go into the symbolism, the biology, the organization of the beast and show how it converts to us and certain spiritual aspects of ourselves.
00:04:48
Speaker
So, I didn't know that the bees should be sacred. No cultures holding them sacred. I mean, even flies are sacred in history in some cultures. But I don't know anyone who should be worshipping the bees. Shame on
00:05:05
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Shame on homo sapiens. Shame. Shame. Listen, I am worshiping the bees, man. If we get a plot of land at some point, I'm definitely going to get into beekeeping.
Beekeeping and Honey Experiences
00:05:20
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I am spending, I'm going through up to three kilograms of honey per week, some weeks, man. I had a neighbor.
00:05:32
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He was a beekeeper and he tried to show me the ropes, right? And I was kind of put off because he was feeding them sugar. Is that okay? I think it's like a starter. You start them off on that. I think he did it around. Look, I was thinking, shouldn't they eat something from nature? And another thing, he took the bee queen and he squeezed her.
00:06:00
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with his finger killed or off like that. Jesus. Yeah, I think that's something they do when I forgot this.
00:06:09
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they want to achieve something to do that. I don't know if it's changing cubes or something is wrong. I don't know, but it's not like something just every day. You don't know that many queens, but I suppose a new queen will appear, but I felt it was very disrespectful. It seems to me that most beekeepers today, they look at it as kind of a factory thing. They don't have this respect, this
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Yeah, it's like the confined factory operations with pigs and chickens or the dairy cows where they're in a line and they're just getting fed and milked and it's a conveyor belt of
00:06:53
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suffering you know it it degrades the quality of the food and that's the thing you know that's again humanity is just i don't know is this the century of perverting everything and distorting it but um
00:07:07
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Like you said, I suspected from this experience that it must affect the honey. So after that, I started to only eat, yes, raw honey, but from in Norway, it's very easy to get honey from nature. What, for example, what they call either flower honey or what very popular is
00:07:31
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Heather. You know the Heather? Yeah. Yeah. So Heather Hone is very popular here. And then I know that's akin to, if it's animals, it's akin to game, right? If you have to choose between factory meat, organic meat, or game, game is always superior to everything else.
00:07:53
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Oh yeah. Like today we get this organic honey certified organic from various things from various flowers. But one of my favorite ones and one of my daughter's favorite ones is from Rosemary. Man, it's so good. This morning, like I was telling you earlier, I think, uh, I've had it's noon right now. I woke up at four o'clock by maybe by eight o'clock in the morning, nine o'clock, I must've had six tablespoons of honey.
00:08:22
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But don't you get fat from so much honey and doesn't your teeth fell out? Well, here's my, as you understood already, I have a lot of hacks and things I do. So when I drink milk, I started drinking a lot more milk the last couple of months and I'll dissolve the honey. Wait a minute, cow milk or goat milk? Cow and goat.
00:08:48
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and um it's you're not worried about the lactose no no no we've had this discussion i remember now i have um i have one of the lactase genes so i am i'm doing really well with it then actually this is this is we talked about last time since then i've actually actually i was doing it already the milk now i remember but i've been eating a lot less meat um because i'm i'm kind of doing more more milk and i've actually been free feeling pretty amazing
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So I'm actually glad that less death has to happen. You know what I mean? I can feel well fed.
Health Effects of Cacao and Plant Toxins
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But what the hell was the thing? Yeah, so I'll dissolve the honey in the milk and then I'll actually add salt and maybe cinnamon. And my next thing I'm going to do is maybe add cacao or cocoa cacao. Yeah. Make chocolate milk.
00:09:42
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We were thinking we'll make with my wife, what's it, milkshakes. Bro, I think. But why not eat raw cacao beans? If you do that, then you are a man. I tried it. Oh my God, it's horrible. I think I told you before why I don't recommend eating raw seeds. It's because there's a lot of inactivated toxins in them.
00:10:10
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if they're organic. Yeah, nothing to do with pollution. Yeah, toxins. I'm talking plant toxins. So I sent you that study, that paper about oxalates, phytates, tannins, phytoestrogens. I think I said oxalates already. There's a number of active compounds in there that are designed to deter pests in the
00:10:42
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Because they're the plant babies and the plant has developed strategies to deter pests or to protect itself, right? So hard nuts, cyanide in almonds, stuff like that, right? But so you were saying the sugar, the diabetes, this is something that when I was on your show. Cyanide in almonds? I eat a lot of almonds.
00:11:05
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bro i'm not saying you should stop immediately stop eating almonds but i'm certainly thinking it loudly listen so last time when i was on your show we kind of we touched the topic but we were talking for four hours so we don't really have time to i mean we're talking about everything so we didn't go in depth in all these things let me tell you now for the research from my book i actually um
Carbohydrates, Diabetes, and Misconceptions
00:11:32
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I've been digging into a lot of this stuff about diabetes, metabolic syndrome. So it's actually not the carbohydrates are not the problem. So it's the inability to process the carbohydrates in the cells that is the problem. In fact, when you put someone like that on a low carb ketogenic diet,
00:11:56
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they feel an improvement, but it's not because you've improved the problem, but you've taken away the issue. So the analogy some people give, if your legs are so weak, you just don't train them, and then it feels like there's no problem there, but that hasn't fixed the problem of your weak legs. So in obesity,
00:12:23
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for starters, because people have a lot of fat on them. There's a lot of circulating, more circulating fat in the bloodstream. And you can only, a cell can only metabolize fat or glucose at any given time. So if you have a lot of circulating lipids in the body,
00:12:48
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and they're overwhelming or they're inhibiting glucose uptake into the cells, that glucose will build up in the bloodstream. So the thing is, and researchers are saying this, and I have the studies here that I'm going to be sort of citing in my book. The problem is the excessive lipolysis, so breaking down fats. That is the problem. If you can stop the lipolysis,
00:13:17
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you can, if there's no fats in the, or if there's a lot less fat circulating in the body to inhibit or prevent glucose from being metabolized properly, the body starts metabolizing the fats or the glucose. And the simple way to understand this, if you take, there's one drug called Icypimox, which was a derivative of vitamin B3,
00:13:46
Speaker
niacin, and there's also a type of vitamin B3 called niacinamide. So both of these, all three of those really, if you take vitamin B3, it can lower your triglycerides in your blood, it can kind of reduce this excessive lipolysis or breaking down of fats into the bloodstream, and your blood sugar starts to normalize.
00:14:13
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So there's lots of studies showing this. So that's direct evidence that the insulin resistance and the sort of the high blood sugar and all this stuff, it's not because of too much sugar. In fact, when I was on the keto diet near the end and the low carb diet, near the end of it, I was testing my blood sugar in the morning and it was over a hundred. It was 105, I remember one day. What optimal?
00:14:42
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Well, optimal is 80 to 100. But it can vary as you know, do stuff during the day. And when you get sick, it changes too. Yeah. But for me, the funniest thing was, or it was understanding that what else raises blood sugar? It's not just food. It's stress. Cortisol raises blood sugar. Like we were talking earlier. Lack of sleep.
00:15:12
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Yeah. But what does that cause? It causes cortisol to increase. Cortisol, one of its main roles is to increase the blood sugar. If you become hypoglycemic, cortisol is secreted along with other stress hormones to raise blood sugar levels. It's one of its main purposes, survival. But it occurs in diabetic people that they generally have a higher than normal
00:15:40
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Level of cortisol so that that is actually contributing to their High hyperglycemia and they've even done studies with drugs that completely sort of block cortisol and
00:15:53
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And that can actually temporarily fix the diabetes until you're on the drug, you know, while you're still on the drug or with obese people that can also, they can stop the diabetes with drugs that lower cortisol. So it's not the fat, sorry, it's not the sugar, it's not the glucose.
00:16:16
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It's more likely, and here's another thing, bro, that I found out very recently, actually. And this is a trick question I'll ask you, or maybe I already asked you when we were on your show, but in fact, I'll just come out and say it. In experimental studies on rats, the protocol to induce diabetes
00:16:36
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It's actually not a high carb diet, as most people who have asked the question, they instinctively, and I was saying, instinctively we think from the social engineering out there, you think, how does a researcher give a rat diabetes? Well, they give them a high carb diet. No?
00:16:56
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They give them a high-fat diet. That's how you induce diabetes type 2 in an experimental lab rat. And when you kind of understand the mechanism, just all that fat in the bloodstream will prevent glucose from getting used.
00:17:15
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Glucose will gradually start building up and then you're going to have a bunch of other things, negative effects coming up over the weeks as that animal becomes diabetic. How come fat will do that? Because it's again this thing where you can only burn fat or fatty acids or glucose at any given time in a cell or in a tissue.
00:17:40
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So if you have a lot of fat circulating, it's blocking the glucose. Likewise, if you have little fat in the bloodstream and a lot of glucose, the cells will use the glucose.
00:17:57
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It was in 1963, the guy Philip Randall published a paper about it. It's called the Randall cycle. And it's basically the mechanism where a lot of fat inhibits glucose, the metabolism of glucose.
Western Diet and Health Inequities
00:18:16
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And likewise, it goes either way. OK. Yeah. So basically.
00:18:28
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Carbs are not the devil.
00:18:32
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Yeah. Well, this isn't my field, so I can't dispute. I can only, you know, quote what others have been saying about it. I just wanted to, I just wanted to add it because last time we kind of didn't get, I really wanted to add this because I know so many people that are really just suffering through these low carb diets and the reason, the reason they started
00:18:58
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It wasn't, usually it seems like it's either to lose some weight or because I think it's the optimal diet for humans and neither of those things can be really achieved. Actually, I looked at a study
00:19:14
Speaker
way to owe more energy, I think, and better sleep, and better immune defense. But you said you tried it yourself. What was your experience? I've done it, bro. Did you really do it properly? Yeah. Bro, if I do something, you bet I would do it right.
00:19:33
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I was doing bulletproof coffees. I was buying the best organic capritic acid C8. I was measuring my ketones and my glucose. When I do stuff, I really researched well. I lost weight because I started it
00:19:53
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I had gained some weight after I was training Thai boxing for a year. Then I kind of stopped training and then I gained some weight. So I started losing weight and feeling better. But the thing is, a lot of the time where people go on a diet, any diet, whether it's a carnivore, vegan or low carb keto, a lot of the time they're coming from the standard Western diet or the standard American diet. So if you're coming from that slop,
00:20:23
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the toxic slop that we call the western diet nowadays, you're gonna feel much better, man. No matter what you do, right? Almost automatically. And not just that, also to eat food from bottom up. I learned an interesting, I don't know if I told you this last time you talked, but it's poetic justice, as they say, it's karma, you know, in the West. It is like,
00:20:53
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The richer you are, the wealthier you are, the higher class you belong to. Usually the healthier lifestyle and food. You know, they exercise the most like luxury exercise. I'm not talking about the natural exercise you get by sweating in a factory, right?
00:21:12
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They, you know, play tennis, ramble in nature. They have maybe cooks that can go, but they certainly have their own nutritionist. They get all this stuff. And the masses, we eat all this canned bullshit, right? This factory stuff. I can't believe it's not meat, GMO. I can't believe it hasn't given me cancer yet. Yes. So we eat the crap. Yeah.
00:21:40
Speaker
And you see also where these lifestyle diseases explode. It's among the plagues. You see cancer, diabetes, all this shit. That usually was much rarer. But when you go to Africa, and I'm not talking about all of Africa, but really where they have
00:22:04
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Maybe not South Africa, because they are getting so westernized. But let's say West Africa, the rich people are perishing from cancer and the abetas and all that, because they go to malls where you have gods. You can't just access it, right? And when you come in, you think you're in Europe.
00:22:23
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And there they eat, there they buy all the shit they import from the West, right? Not just food, everything, clothes, blah, blah, blah. But then they start adopting our shitty diet and lifestyle, whereas the poor people can't afford buying this fancy schmancing crap. So they, without even knowing it, they are eating organic, right? Oh, it grows in my neighbor's backyard or whatever, right? Oh, I went to the...
00:22:52
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jungle and plucked it, right? Oh, it's a goat in the street. So they eat the traditional and healthy and they stay slim and they stay much more healthy. I mean, they have other problems that challenge their health, right? But at least it's not on the nutrition side.
Political Dynamics and Leadership Control
00:23:12
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And that, I think, is how it should be, really. They don't know how lucky they are in that respect. It is a very, very perverse sort of poetic justice, like you said. But you know what's interesting? I've never seen these people, at least on the top of the visible pyramid, to us, like Bill Gates or Henry. I mean, I saw... They never look healthy. They never look healthy, but you never see them eat
00:23:41
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Have you ever wondered what a Kissinger and Rockefeller, when he was alive, have you ever wondered what these people eat? I thought they were just drinking children's blood. That's what I was thinking. Just on blood and brains of kids. I mean Kissinger, who was that dude? Some of these dudes, they lived so long. George Herbert Walker Bush was long, but there was another dude who died recently.
00:24:09
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Super old. Yeah. I guess it was Rockefeller. Yeah. Rockefeller. I think it was 101 or something like that. But apparently... Which his kissing just age now. Yeah. And apparently Rockefeller had seven heart transplants. Yeah. Same with the dude who shot his friend in the face. Dubious assistant. Oh, what's his name again? One of the brains behind 9-11.
00:24:38
Speaker
Right. Right. Halliburton. Right. What's his name? On the Dubio. Was he the vice president? Yeah, I think he was the vice. I couldn't tell you, brother. See, this is a thing in America. The evil people who become president, they always put in someone as a vice president that
00:25:07
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ensures that they are not, yeah, Dick Cheney. That's Dick Cheney. He too. Hundreds of heart transplants.
00:25:15
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But see, if they have a horrible guy as a vice president, they think they're not going to be killed because they are the people who would kill others. Right. So they project those who were in the know about Kennedy being killed. Many of the presidents after Kennedy were in the know. Actually, Nixon was not involved. He was in a no, but he wasn't involved in
00:25:41
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in the actual plot. Everybody was involved, but actually not Nixon, but he knew. And so that's the thing. They try to put in people who would be, what's it called in English, deterrent, deterrent from finishing them off. But if you have like an evil guy as a vice president, you're screwed. So just look at, for example, JFK had, obviously,
00:26:12
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If you have an intelligent, evil guy, you're in danger, right? What do you think Bush put in Dan? What was his name again? Dan Quayle.
00:26:29
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I forgot the names of all these vice presidents, but look at Bush Jr. There he was the doofus, right? Yeah. So he had the evil, he had the Darth Vader as his ... No, they didn't kill him because he was a loyal stooge, but it's very dangerous to have someone like that. So I was worried for Trump when he put in
00:26:55
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this Christian fundamentalist because I figured they might, they would rather have him than Trump in charge because, you know, this dude was what Trump should do. He should put in someone like Tulsi Gabbard, someone like, oh, wow, we can't kill Trump because we're going to get someone worse. You understand what I mean? That's the principle you have to go for. You have to go for someone so radical, so threatening to the powers that be.
00:27:22
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that they rather try to finish you in a different way.
00:27:26
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done assassinate you look at me by the way complete left turn I took this right into politics actually I'd love to know I was interviewing someone last night and I want to know do you think based on where world events are going now
New World Order and Societal Control
00:27:48
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do you think that the
00:27:52
Speaker
World order the current world order is fading that they're they're fading in in their plans evidence by the big flop of the pandemic and whatnot It's it's an unfair question because you basically asking me to predict. Okay, I can say what's going on But I can't say what the outcome is. It's obvious that Okay, let's go through the biggest pro and con
00:28:19
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Let's start with the con. I always like to end it on a good note. Now, the con is that the censorship is super increasing all over the place. It's like exponentially accelerating. They are coming for podcasts now, eventually. I said that all the time. Long-time listeners, or if you ever go through my back catalogue, you will think I'm a prophet because there's so many things that has happened in the
00:28:48
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political, social, but it's not prediction, it's just reading the weather, right? It's meteorology. Because if you have the dots, they fit.
00:29:05
Speaker
Yeah. So, so that's one, they're, they're increasing, you know, the double V H O thing. And they are hijacking the entire world now by the back door. You know, of course, about this new people need to fight against it. I think our last chance to fight it is in May. That's when it's finally ratified. After that, all democracies are over. You know what I'm talking about, right? Oh my God. Okay.
00:29:38
Speaker
I'll go to it later because I want a list, but all I can say, man, is that Bill Gates and all these other oligarchs, the whole, let's just call it the world order. They are the new world order because they certainly have changed from the old. They have found a perfect, so COVID is a part of this, they have the perfect way to hijack
00:30:02
Speaker
to finish off democracies and it's coming. And May is to find land. And all they have to do then is launch another planet. They don't even need to launch it because there's even more research, gain of function research going on now. Or let's call it, for what it is, bioweapon research now than before COVID. What's that?
00:30:26
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What's happening in May? I did that part. The final, I'm talking about one big thing. WHO, I wish they had an easier, let's just call them WHO. WHO? Yeah, WHO. You know WHO? WHO.
00:30:44
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I can't even say double B-H-O every time. Maybe that's why they call it. So the censorship, the fact that they're rigging, because if an establishment candidate wins in the next, whoever, if it's not going to be Biden, it's going to be someone else.
00:31:06
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I mean, even if Trump wins, it's not good enough. Trump isn't a solution. He's just a clog in the machine slowing down the trip outside the... In some ways, he's making it bad too, or even worse. But in most ways, he's just a, what you say, where something is slowing down, like a cog.
00:31:32
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You know, I just woke up, so my brain doesn't work. I know you're going to help me with that, but your brain is what it is right now. So I can't get the word. What's that? Yeah. You should be at your freshest and best when you wake up. Never, never. I mean, almost my freshest and best in the evening. But let me go through this. Otherwise, we'll never get through this. So so that's the thing. So so they're rigging the rigging of the election. Like, if you're going to beat an establishment candidate in America today,
00:32:02
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You need like 51% won't make it. You need a landslide. Like if you have 70 or 80%, then they can't stop it. But if you have like 55%, maybe even 60%, you're screwed. So you need to beat the default rigging. I'm not even talking about the subtile rigging. Like, of course, how they rig the primaries, how they rig the
00:32:32
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you know, gerrymandering, how they rig it with censorship of what Google's...
00:32:41
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doing in terms of what they're showing us. There's one guy, you have to check him out. He's doing the rounds now. He's the only threat against Google. It's so interesting. Let's put a dent on that too. Now there's who and this Google guy. Let's go back to that. I could go on listing, and now they want to amp it up to World War III, and that's connected to that panicking that they're going to lose power.
00:33:07
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That is one of these things that is coalescing in the con meaning, all the bad things that in our values are bad. I could go on listing.
00:33:26
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Already what I said is each one of them isolated are a judgment day in themselves, right? So how much, how depressed should we get here? And there's other bad, bad stuff going on too. And people are more and more stressed, more and more have time for nothing. You know, they have crushed the middle class. They had to crush the middle class because a strong middle class means enough people keeping attention and screaming against what's going on.
00:33:56
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when something horrific and bad happens. Now it's like a shrug. Most people don't know. Many people don't care. Anyway, you have no power. You're just busy running from crisis to crisis, putting out the fires in your life, malnutritioned, no sleep.
00:34:23
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overwork, working around the clock. I know you're in Europe, but you know in America it's horrible, man. They have no time for it. They don't have any leisure time. With that, you can get away with almost anything.
00:34:39
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So now, if you're not depressed by now, then you're a part of the problem. Then you're a psychopath. No, you need psychiatric help. If you're sharing this on, then you're a psychopath. Anyway, let me go to the pros now.
00:34:56
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So the pros are that one of the reasons that amping up the war things, at least, and the censorship thing is panic. I'm not saying they haven't always wanted this, but it's panic because if people are onto them, like the worst fears are to be
00:35:22
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to end up in like Nuremberg trials. The worst fears are that the law is actually applying to them. Back in the 70s, you don't have to go further back in the 70s, the rulers were afraid of the people. Now, the people are afraid of the rulers. Now, it's like complete transparency for the individual,
00:35:46
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privacy for the power, also reversed than what's natural and should be. And it's also the Orwellian doable speak, right? So democracy is anything but democracy.
00:36:00
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The point is they are panicking because more and more people are waking up and much thanks to the Internet. Maybe not just the Internet, but the Internet have certainly helped. It was much easier for them to get away. The old order was to lull people. The old order was based on bribery. It was bribing the people.
00:36:25
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What is the wartime president? What's his name? Oh, Woodrow Wilson? Yeah, no, Second World War. Roosevelt, sorry. Roosevelt, yes. He said, many people, oh, he was a communist, socialist, Americans, they have no clue about. They don't even know what that is, right?
00:36:46
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But they're completely wrong. He bragged that he saved America from socialism and communism and Nazism too, because he knew that if they didn't, because we were kind of like in the 30s, like they were in the 30s, he reversed it.
00:37:05
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And he bragged by implementing lots of workers rights and welfare state and all this stuff, because he knew that if he didn't do that, they would get either what happened in Germany or what happened in Russia.
00:37:22
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And so, and that's that bribery of the people is the deal is, okay, look, we're going to give you some crumbs from a table. Okay. You, the masses, and you're going to be, that's going to keep your head about water. Of course, not everyone.
00:37:40
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some of you are going to deliberately suffer so that they will be infighting, so that everyone, it's like we're throwing you a lifeboat. There's 10 people in the sea, the lifeboat can only room seven people, so at any given time you have to fight who will get space in that lifeboat. That's how we're going to
00:38:04
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But at least you're going to have that life pod. And when you are in that life pod, you can lie there and enjoy the sun like we do. Only the poor man version of, so rich people, wealthy people in the middle class, they are like the poor man version of the oligarchs. And so that's what they did. And they have to do that because if there are
00:38:27
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enough jobs for everyone, then the workers get power, then they can dictate. They say, what, you're just going to give me that little in payment? Or what, you're going to force me to work that much? Or what, I'm going to, like the conditions, then it's go, I'm out of here. I'm going to the next factory. Okay. And look, and good luck to you. And you know, if you're a libertarian, a libertarian capitalist,
00:38:55
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should really support that system because that's real libertarianism, that's freedom, that's the market should decide. The market in the world in the meaning of not corporatism like most people think today when they think of market, real market means choice of the people. So in the marketplace, I'm a seller of my work
00:39:20
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and you're the buyer of my work when you hire me. That's really what we should call it, work sellers and work buyers, not employees, employers, because he's not giving me anything. I'm selling my work to him, and that's how it should be. They shouldn't rig it. They've rigged it for all these years, deliberately keeping a certain amount of people unemployed, because then
00:39:45
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Those work buyers can pick and choose between, okay, you don't want to have these horrible conditions, screw you, I'm getting another one. So when the workers were striking, they could just easily get strike breakers, right? Because there was a pressure on the market. This is what's been going on in the West all this time. It's no problem.
00:40:09
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no problem to have enough jobs to everyone. It's also no problem for everyone to be, you know, nobody has to be poor is what I'm saying. If you wanted to construct a society for the best of the people. Now, and you can do, how do you get enough jobs? Well, there's different ways to do it. You could try it the Soviet way, like the state or the Chinese way, the state organizing it.
00:40:38
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You could try the Scandinavian way, where you have a mixed model, or you could try the libertarian way, like I said. But the problem is they've been rigging it from day one. And that's the corporatism. Corporatism never went away. They were striving on the fascism, and now it's back. Now it is. But anyway, I was going through the pros. So the pros is that people are aware. And so the old order was, we bribe you.
00:41:07
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We give you a middle class. You're going to have a good. But now that's gone. Now they are squeezing. They are trying to gobble up all the wealth. And I don't know, Christian, if that's.
00:41:19
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just stupidity, ignorance, degeneration on the part of the elite because they haven't learned, because they are like spoiled third generation inbred crisis psychopaths on steroids, or if there's something in the pipeline warranting this, if there's actually reasons for this, something they know we don't.
00:41:41
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and result is that people wake up. Because when you lull 50% or 60% of the population to sleep, you kind of ensure it against a revolution. Because what really makes people wake up is when they feel it on their own body. When people get, it becomes a reality. When their health is in trouble, when they don't have a roof, when they don't have food in their belly, that's when people really wake up.
00:42:11
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But if you can lull them with, not just with enough, but also all the gismos they lulled us with, right? Some of it has been very useful, like has liberated women. That's what has liberated women, not activism, but the fact that they had vacuum cleaners and washing machines and all that stuff. And now they have, and of course computers was a blessing at the beginning, right?
00:42:39
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Yeah. So internet too. So, but where was I going? Yeah. So, so when they take all that away, when they start, and COVID really should push people, because before COVID, conspiracy theory, that word was working well as what it was meant to work as, namely as a deterrence against
00:43:05
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system-critical or power-critical analysis and debate. I'm not saying there's not crazy stuff out there. There's always been, okay? Of course. But they wanted to use taint everything with the crazy stuff, and it's been working well.
00:43:20
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But now after COVID, because the whole COVID thing has waken up many, many people, and I don't understand why they're doing it. It's very risky for them. If things aren't working well, why on earth would they escalate it so that even more people wake up?
00:43:36
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And so the COVID thing made now the conspiracy theory isn't, I still don't use it, I still hate that word, but it's not what it used to be. Now people are actually using it either, like, you know the N-word, how black people took that, own that word? How
00:43:58
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gay people own the gay world. Gay used to be a negative. So that's kind of what's going on with the conspiracy world now.
Public Awakening and Elite Manipulation
00:44:09
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It doesn't, it's lost its meaning. It's kind of, you're kind of pathetic if you try to use it to, you know, it just shows everyone now that you don't have arguments if that's what you resort to. So where am I going? Yes, I'm saying
00:44:26
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something is changing. And it's kind of good news because it wakes more people up and it shows that they're in a panic.
00:44:36
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All these negatives I was listing are a symptom of the panic. So it's a race, Christian. It's a race to what's going to happen. But there are certain factors that need to happen. For example, USA are so important now because the whole rest of the world, Western world, is taken over. There's no way
00:45:02
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Anyway, America dictates the Western world. And you see the, what's he called? Close Schwab. What's the Tink tank called?
00:45:16
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You know, close Schwab. Yeah, the weft, the world economic. Weft and who have so much power over the West, Western world, that we need to take, we need someone in, as I'm not saying a precedent in America can change a lot. And I understand why people don't want to vote, etc. But this is actually important. If a guy like RFK actually came to power in
00:45:42
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or limited power, mind you, in USA. It would help a lot because the things he can do, the president actually can do, and the things the president can stop. Now, maybe he would get killed, but that would be okay too, because it would just show, you know, the more dramatic things happen, the worse actions they pull, quote, unquote, the powers there be, they
00:46:10
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the more people wake up and the more angry people get and the more they actually do stuff. So it's not too late, but you need, and we need certain key roles to take over certain key roles because they become powerful. And so to stop people like Bill Gates and others from what's going on here,
00:46:33
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It's like one oligarch has the economical thing, one has the health thing, one has the war thing. It's like they have divided the world between them. So of course, you and me will be conservative gays because he's so much involved in the health stuff. But it's all a coherence of, they're all pushing together in a bad direction and we all have to push against it.
00:46:58
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in all directions. So let's just say it's one big thing. And so, yeah, we need certain key positions and precedent, because if they get the precedent, if they get another stooge puppet, then it just accelerates the whole thing. And especially you and me should be concerned about the free speech issue among all these issues to be concerned about. Yeah. But an American president can actually stop that.
00:47:29
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can actually fight against that. Someone like RFK in the White House would make what they're trying to do so much harder. Who should be the proponent of that process now then? Godam, what's his name? Son of Castro, illegitimate son of Castro. Justin? Yeah. Should Justin Trudeau be the champion of that? I don't think so. He soon finished himself because
00:47:57
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Everything was more extreme in Canada compared to the rest of the world. He's in trouble for that. There are good things happening. People are waking up, unfortunately, for the wrong reasons and in the reversed kind of way, but at least they're waking up.
00:48:15
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We have tools too, man. It's not as if they have completely finished off what internet started that process. You and me having this conversation and the listeners listening to Inundis now is still a continuation of that process that was unthinkable in the 70s, which is when we, by the way, the world has never been as free as it was in the 70s.
00:48:40
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What actually worries me is these conversations that we're recording, or even through most platforms, the conversations we're having. Facebook, Zoom, Skype, Gmail, podcasts that get published. All of this is getting transcribed.
00:49:08
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categorized and they're analyzing it and it's all being fed into their, you know, systems. I worry that we are teaching the AI what, you know, giving our tricks away. When you think about it, we are because they're not showing their hand
00:49:29
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But the tools that we have at our disposal, we are. It's just the way the game is rigged because we're using their tools for for the most part. It's true. But I said this to a revolutionary once, one of these left wing revolutionaries. I said to him, look, man, one of the big problems in your philosophy, I was having a political discussion with him privately. This wasn't this was before I was.
00:49:58
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I said, one of the moronic things with Europe, even if I buy into all this idealistic stuff, let's forget the nature of man, let's forget this, let's forget that. You're not seeing the conspiracy element. With that, I mean the deep state, the plot thing. They have all the money, they have all the power, and they are rigging, and they're infiltrating. Because these people are blind to infiltration.
00:50:22
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They know about it when it comes to demonstrations like protests. They know that there are fifth columnists, agent provocateurs. At least that they know, but they really don't understand that even many of their own heroes
00:50:37
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I'm not saying they're all agent from the outset, but they are, but they get co-opted, right? We know that now with the, you know, one of the big, not just a COVID thing, many things are waking people up, like the Epstein thing, and a lot, I could list so much is happening. It's everything is accelerating. But let me address your point, because it's a valid point. And he said, you know what, it doesn't matter, he said, because everything we do is in the open.
00:51:03
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We have an open philosophy and they can rig it. But if the right person then says the wrong thing, because we know our principles, we know what, I think he was a Trotskyist, so we know what we believe in principles. And then if the wrong person then starts agitating for the wrong principles again.
00:51:26
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Then we are against because they have like meetings for everything and very ineffective, right? But they vote and their meetings. So it doesn't matter if you're then the wrong person and you do it for the wrong motives or you're an infiltrator or you've been co-opted or whatever, because now you're spewing bullshit.
00:51:45
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And now we have to be against it. So he is right. But the weakness with that argument is that he presupposes that we are all machines, clear thinking, clear principled machines, right? People can be confused. People can have empathy, like personal emotions. Oh, he's my hero. So even though what that guy is now, let's say Stalin is now saying, oh, I love Stalin. He was fighting for the revolution by
00:52:14
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He was actually a bandit. He was a bank robber. Really? Yes. He was never a thinker. He wasn't a thinker like Lenin and Trotsky. So they say, I'm in Russia, right? I'm a Bolshevik. And I say, OK, I look up to Stalin. So many banks, he plundered to finance the revolution. So
00:52:34
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even though what he says now doesn't jive with what I know is right, I'm gonna look past it, you know what I mean? There's so many factors that would make people not vote for the best, or maybe they're unclear on the principle on the revolutionary philosophy. So there are arguments against it, but still he has a point. These AI people, they can rig it as much as they want because
00:53:01
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Most of us can smell the coffee. I don't need to see the game. Like I said, I have a track record of being right ever since I've begun this thing. I know it sounds like bragging, but there's nothing I predicted in terms of the socio-political scale that hasn't come to pass. It's not as if I'm predicting every day. It's not as if it's, I don't even think it's complicated stuff I've been predicting, but there has been people not seeing it or even saying the opposite stuff.
00:53:31
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So at least I can brag about that, being right about that. And it's just occasionally I've said this is where it's going.
00:53:42
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And I said in the 15, long before people understood it, that YouTube would fall, and so on and so forth. So I think we don't need to see the hand. And I don't think, look, even if they didn't rig it with the eye gobbling up everything, they would have infiltrators. It doesn't matter, man. We need to be
00:54:07
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clear on our principles. Just know that you will never ever be anything else than an absolute free speech. Let's reduce everything now to just this thing because we could discuss the same in everything, right?
00:54:22
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So if you know that you're an absolute free speech, it doesn't matter whatever they try to do. You would know immediately, you would recognize the contra-revolution, the hijacking of
00:54:38
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So plot had, I know when the bullshit comes. And the same with if you have some healthy principles and these healthy principles that you never should yield if you want a harmonious society working to the advantage of as many as possible is decentralization.
00:55:00
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and autonomy and freedom and included in freedom is of course free speech. So that's all you need to know. Know those three things and you don't need to know politics. You don't need to know who is the cool guy you should support or not. What is the trend? What's going on in the world? You can come from under a rock. You've been on Antarctica for a year. Come back. Now you're going to decide in a lot of issues. Just look for it.
00:55:29
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Autonomy, decentralization, and what's freedom? If you have those three principles very clearly, and sometimes our issue can be so complicated, you may not see in what direction it's pulling in terms of, then you have to analyze that thing enough to see where does it fall out in terms of autonomy, decentralization, and free freedom. You have the same principle working in spirituality.
00:55:59
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You don't need to know a lot of stuff to know which kind of philosophy is poisonous and which is healthy. You know, of course, Socrates' bullshit filter, right? There are actually three ways to determine if something is false or a lie or not. One of them is that filter. Do you know that filter? Very famous. Are you talking about Occam's razor?
00:56:27
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No, but it's the same principle as Occam's race. I'm not really good with the Greek philosophers. This is like a meme. You don't have to know Greek philosophy to know this, because it's so good that everybody... I'll get back to that, put a dent on that too. But I just want to say, in terms of spirituality,
00:56:49
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Look for the same thing I was saying, just look for unity. Is this thing a separatism thing? Does it accumulate distance? Like, does it go from one to two? Or does it go from two to one? If it goes from one to two, it's a bad thing. If it goes from two to one, it's a good thing, you understand? So it has to be, so if you can see in a philosophy,
00:57:14
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where it ends, that's what you should be looking for, if it's for the light or for the darkness. Of course, divide and rule is the main principle of the powers that be, of the elites, of the deep state, et cetera. Unity is what we should... So if we have a revolution and we topple the current powers,
00:57:39
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That's one way to avoid, like always the new ones continue with one to two, one to two. But it's a bad, you understand what I'm saying? It kind of saves me from a lot of talk when I say trigger words like that. So if you understand, good.
00:57:56
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I guess I should let you speak now, I've been rambling and ranting on. No, this is good bro, you took it in a good direction. I think what I would probably really strongly agree with is that's what we have to look not just into our leaders, ideally we are our own leaders, but it seems like not everybody wants to or is cut out to be a leader, but if we were to look for a leader
00:58:23
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We would want to really see, are they for autonomy? Are they for increasing our freedom? Or are they for fucking more bureaucracy, petty? Exactly. And it's the same with the individual as the collective, right? There's no difference. What's healthy for you is healthy for everyone.
00:58:46
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It's a sign of really good health. I'll tell you from personal experience, when I was running on cortisol and stress hormones, I was a lot more dictatorial.
00:59:05
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Things had to be my way. When you're very specific about stupid petty little things, like someone left my thing called anal in psychology. Someone left the chargers on, they're wasting electricity. I didn't like that. Called Virgil in astrology.
00:59:27
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Yeah, it's a sign. So these people that want to micromanage our lives and have complete say over what we put in our bodies, that is a sign of
00:59:44
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a profoundly sick psyche and it's probably um not a far stretch to say if your psyche is profoundly sick that in general your general uh physical health is not going to be good you know the two kind of go hand in hand because they are one mind body and spirit so yeah these people
01:00:09
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this is another thing that really baffles me right so guys like Soros and Kissinger these kind of these guys they they don't look healthy they don't look happy and you know they never did i don't think they ever take a day off like do they ever go on the holiday on holiday and
01:00:29
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chill on the beach. I don't think, you know, maybe Klaus, Klaus goes with his weird to to ballerina uniform or whatever the hell that thing was, you know, you know, the one I'm talking about. No, this is something in his youth. No, no, definitely. His youth is like he's at the beach and he's wearing basically like almost like lingerie or something with his nip. I don't know. Very weird. Very weird.
01:00:57
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I wasn't even sure if that's real, but I think it is real. Anyway, so, but these guys, like, imagine how sick your psyche is to just be so consumed with this big agenda that they're trying to implement and kind of see through. That is, it's sad. It's really sad. And this is what, you know, you have children or whatever offspring,
01:01:23
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This is what you're going to imprint on them. So what it seems like perhaps is the next generation of these
01:01:33
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powers that be, maybe they're not as consumed by this agenda. Maybe that's why these guys are dying off the road and this agenda is kind of not falling apart at the seams, but it's very sloppy because these guys don't believe in it as much as the old guard did.
01:01:56
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Which could be and the fact that it's it's a never growing complex system what they're trying to implement this could be really something positive in that. It's too complex for it to just be automatically maintain so the AI will need maintenance people will make mistakes.
01:02:16
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their henchmen, their higher up middle management, they will make mistakes. Things won't go according to plan. People will keep waking up. And it's just, but they seem like they will keep bumbling because even like when there was like revolutions or big crises, they somehow managed to emerge like a phoenix from the ashes. I don't know what your opinion on that is.
01:02:44
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Yeah, so I disagree with one thing, and that's your hopeful musings around the new generations. And I'll tell you why. I just want to say, I wasn't even done listing the pros, but never mind. If people need a pep talk, they get the therapist. But there are pros out there, and I just mentioned one.
01:03:13
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Because we don't have time, it's much better to take it in this direction to try to get to the root cause of things. That's more interesting than just describing and analyzing what's going on. Although one of the three dents I put down, I want to get back to, and that's the who.
01:03:29
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double V-H-O, because you need to know this thing. I already forgot the other two dance I said. We'll hear it. We'll get it when we listen back to the show. But anyway, first, I want to, before I get to the new generation, are the elites sick? Of course they are. Of course they're sick, but is that the root cause? Is that real? I know it's natural to assume it and presume it, and maybe it is.
01:03:57
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But if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, I can offer you alternative viewpoints. Of course, some of them are outrageous, but they still serve, even if they violate Occam's razor, not always actually the razor applies, but still they, you know, in magic, magic is, I'm talking about like stage magic, magic disproves Occam's razor. In magic, you are,
01:04:25
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producing our manifestation. It's rigged to seem like I do this, therefore that happens, right? But really I'm doing something much more complicated work around. That's why it's called an illusion, right? To trick your senses into thinking this is the natural conclusion. That's the whole meaning of stage magic. And if that can happen by design,
01:04:54
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in magic. It shows that although if things are natural, if things just roll like an avalanche or a stone rolling down from the mountain, yes, Occam's razor applies.
01:05:08
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But as soon as you have intelligence involved, and more importantly than intelligence, as soon as you have intentions and incentives involved, then the picture gets much more complicated. So not always our outcomes. So in this outcomes racer would tell us that, yeah,
01:05:28
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It is like this because the elites are just misguided souls. They are just perverted and sick physically, mentally, whatever. They have this bubble they're living in, which is true.
01:05:43
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Not in touch. You know, there's studies showing the richer you get, the more psychopathic you get. Really? Yes. Even if you start out from scratch. That's probably also why many of those, like the Scrooge thing, right? That some of those self-made rich people are even worse than those born into it because they still live in a scarcity model, even though they have abundance. You get the Scrooge McDuck phenomenon, right?
01:06:11
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But so, and it's natural because when you, when you, you know, studies are also shown that the most generous people are those who are the most poor. And it's natural because where if I'm like living in the slums of Brazil, right, I'm kind of I know that if I'm screwed.
01:06:29
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I'm dependent on others. So when someone others come to me across my path, and if I don't give, I have two crumbs and I give one to that person, I have to do it because otherwise what I'm saying is that I'm going to be screwed myself. It's just natural. You've been, you've been forced no matter how selfish you are. You can be the, you can have all your astrological placements in Capricorn and you're still going to behave as a Pisces. You understand? You're forced to it.
01:07:00
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No, it's a natural relation. So I'm not going to get to this new generation thing, but I just want to offer you some other incentives. When I say we don't know everything what's going on, it's because there may be, what if, let's say, let's say that who's really having the power, you know, the elites, oligarchs are just, they're not really the root cause, they are just
01:07:29
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someone who is, let's say humanity or the globe, is like a miniature, it's like a village. And then we are saying that, okay, the richest man in the village, he's the oligarch, and then the mayor in the village, he's the politician, the president.
01:07:48
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Let's say the American president because the American machinery, by the way, I want to say one more protein and that's bricks. Let's put a dent in bricks, but another protein is Bitcoin.
01:08:00
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know, we don't have time to go through. I just realized we need a four-hour show here. But these are important matters and they really give you hope. But it goes back to the village. So let's say the rich guy in the village and the mayor in the village, they are just doing the bidding of the tsar or the king. The king sends one of his deep status to the village and say, look,
01:08:27
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We are considering just flattening this village from the map, okay? We are just considering making a dam here instead. But if you do a bidding, we may go for the naval village or we may prolong your existence here. That could be something going on right here now. I don't even have to go down the rabbit hole. I leave it to the listener to
01:08:56
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take the analogy far enough, depending on how creative or conspiratorial or science fiction they can think. So what I'm saying here is more may go on than we're aware of. The UFO phenomenon may be connected to what's going on. The whole COVID-19 thing. Why are they, you know, they would never think they would get away.
01:09:19
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with, you call it sloppy, they knew no matter, even if they were controlling all free speech, even if they were controlling all the major scientific institutions, which they don't do, they control too much. Yes. But even if they control all of that, they would never get away with the fact of the gain of function. Why are they amping that up?
01:09:45
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that we know about it. And that, of course, now it's like people are starting to realize even AIDS comes from that. They will never get away with the in the in the jabs that they have a gene manipulation, RNA editing, and what's going on with that. And
01:10:09
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And when I had you on, just for those who haven't listened, one of the perspectives we had was to try to help people who are polluted by the spike protein. So that is something they would never get away with either. So why are they doing all that when they know they can't get away with it? And no wonder they're in a hurry, because
01:10:34
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precisely because they can't get away with all this stuff. They have to, there's a race, like I'm saying now. At the end of the race, either they get accountable for all the extreme shit that has been going on and is going on, and we managed to stop some of it, or they get to remove our lost
01:10:57
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agency, possibility, and we're forever enslaved in a literal prison planet. But back to the motivations and incentives, there may be more that's going on that we don't know about. I'm not saying we need to know about it in order to, we don't need to know about it in order to know which side we are. Are you saying it's aliens? But what is aliens? You know, this AI thing?
01:11:24
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You know, Mission Impossible, you saw the latest Mission Impossible. It's a classical plot. No, it's AI going rogue and taking over. You know, when you're out of bad guys, the Nazis, the Soviets. Now, the third is like, this is how all these movies go, right? First, it's the Nazis, if you go really old school. Then it's the Soviets.
01:11:48
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Then it's the Nazis point to those who survived, but are still behind it. And when that's exhausted, then they should have started with this, but they didn't want to do it for the longest time. Then they do what the prisoner did, which is why the prisoner is the ever best serious ever. And that's now it's the enemy within. Oh, we thought we were the bad, good guys. It turns out we are the bad guys. We are corrupted. And when that is exhausted,
01:12:16
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then you have to go to AI.
01:12:19
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And I'm assuming after that, then comes aliens. But then do you reckon at some point they'll be like on the demiurge? Maybe. Yeah, that's after aliens. When aliens are exhausted, then they, OK, demiurge. But now you're talking six dimensional chess, right? How much do we expect? But yeah, OK, you can blame aliens. And aliens may mean Nazis, actually. Aliens may mean even human beings.
01:12:48
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So yeah, I'm not saying it's this, I'm saying there's extremely many between the demiurge
01:12:55
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and the aliens and AI and enemy within and the secret Nazis. I mean, have your pick of the rabbit hole, man. But I also say you don't need to know anything of this in order to know which side you're on and in order to recognize the bullshit, of course. Right. That's a given. Just have healthy principles.
New Generations of Elites
01:13:17
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That's why you should never fall. So see how easy it is to fool and manipulate American
01:13:23
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masses. Those who were against the Ukraine war, they are for the Israel thing, right? It's like, just introduce, it's like, okay, oh, why stop, stop censoring us, stop censoring us. And then those you agree with, call me in power and censor the other side. And no, you're more censorship, more. This is how unprincipled they are. They do the same in war. They do the same in everything.
01:13:51
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Look, the university students were saying they were supporting the Palestinians, censor them, cancel them. Everybody who hasn't been against censorship and cancel culture, I know four. People just need to be principled. If you want to really stop this bad thing,
01:14:10
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realize you have allies on the other side of the wing and start being principled. Always against war, always against intervention, always against censorship. It's not rocket science, man. And if you don't do that, well, then you brought it upon us because the elite is not left or right. They are always top down, even though they may present themselves in left and right. So
01:14:38
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That's there. They push the left boot forward, kick you with that, and now you run over to the other side. Then they kick you with that boot, that right boot. Now you run on back. You cannot be this headless chicken. It's like the... It's a duopoly game. It's a uni party. Yeah, it's like the left and the right wing are on the same board and that board is taking a massive shit on your head.
01:15:06
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Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Only this shit is not just ugly and stinking. It's actually a poisonous acidic. So the new generation, I'm sorry, man. One of the reasons that bongling it is, yes, the new generation, because
01:15:25
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They are not as sophisticated as those who had to deal with all the troubles of the 30s and the 40s. First it was the revolutions, then it was the depression that they accelerated because of the revolutions. Then there was the
01:15:47
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world war where one of their tools to try to stop this thing went rogue. They created a Frankenstein monster, fascism, Nazism. So they had to serve all that stuff and survive it and handle it so that when they came out in the 50s and they had to concede a lot of power. After the war,
01:16:13
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like the 50s, 60s, 70s, best period of, but most of the real war was happening behind, after the Second World War, the real war behind the scenes. It wasn't like what most people think is Soviet against their Americas. Yes, of course that happened, but the real war was about how much can we regain
01:16:35
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of our dictatorial and total and absolute power because they all want to go back to the feudal ages. The model with slavery and King and tyrant has been with mankind since the dawn and it never went away. Why would it go away? What kind of contemporary megalomania
01:17:01
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megalomania, is it to think that, oh yeah, man can have all been like that, but now we are so much better than that. And like, no, the only difference is that the plebs have enough power to try to stop it. So how much of our power are they going to regain and how much of our
01:17:21
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agency of ourselves, are we going to lose? That's what was going on behind the scenes in the 50s, 70s, up to the 70s and 80s they started, you know, they had to kill JFK. That was one important thing. And they had to start the corporatism, the neoliberalism in the 80s. That was one important thing.
01:17:42
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So, and there's other important steps too, but it's all been a behind the scenes battle to remove, to crush democracy. But very slow, very indirect, it wasn't that easy back then because people were more aware and they came out of the war and it was more clear-cut.
01:18:03
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People were more principled, but even worse than that, for them, for their elites, there were so many institutions in place serving the people, serving democracy. Those institutions have been hijacked. Everything from bureaucratic things
01:18:18
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non-governmental things, media, I could list their own. Even in finance, there were institutions, there were systems put in place that was helping us. They are all corrupted and decayed and hijacked now, almost all at least. No, that's crazy talk bro. Now in America,
01:18:40
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If you call your doctor, you could get a vaccine appointment the next day. Are you kidding me? They're taking. I forgot about that silver lining, but apart from that, but about the new generation. So, no, the junior new generation of verse, at least the old generation had lived in a society where the divide was smaller. The divide is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And the toys they have is getting worse. And it's like,
01:19:08
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You know, if you want to have a loyal soldier, right, in the old days, they actually had to be out fighting. So at least they knew some pain on their own body. Now they get experts sitting, you know, okay, you've been playing.
01:19:23
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you're a nerd, you never had contact with humanity, you never got a girl on a prom, and now we're going to take you with all your pimples and cook a call addiction and whatnot, and we're going to replace that
01:19:38
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gamer seat in your home with this military gamer seat and now you're going to control these drones. I mean, that kind of alienation, that kind of removal from any resemblance of life, it's the same thing happening with this new generation of elites. What I was saying earlier, I was saying more potentially the new generation of the
01:20:06
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oligarchs or they're that's what I'm talking about. Maybe that's the silver lining for us is they're not as consumed by the massive plans and maybe that's why. That's what you said. Yeah, that's what I'm criticized. Okay. Okay. This is what I'm disagreeing with. I'm saying they are worse. Like the image I gave you of that soldier who's behind
01:20:34
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the military guy who's behind the drones. He's just a game. He doesn't know what he can just, at least the old soldier had to fight. He would know death. He would know. You see the difference. You're alienated. You're removed. In fact, they don't even want humans. They want AIs to do all this stuff. Now, the current elites, they are richer. They're more in a bubble than new generations, I'm saying. They're even more removed from
01:21:03
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society. They never went to normal schools. Everything is elite, elite, elite, separate, separate, separate. They get more and more pervert, more and more. Maybe that's why this can be, it may not be as exotic as we speculated the reason for this escalation. It may just mean they're more crazy.
01:21:22
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This is the ultimate psychopathy, ultimate alienation, ultimate narcissism. They have better ideas than their forebears. That's why they're accelerating. Remember, it's not the old, old, old God that's in the driver's seat of many of these new things happening. In fact, I think Kissinger was one of those who criticized the whole plan they have with
01:21:49
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trying to escalate the nuclear war with the Russians, which is crazy stuff. Or he was also against the two-front war against Russians and Chinese. It's as if they have learned nothing from history. And hubris is always a trait of someone who has had everything and never had to fight for everything. And so it's bound to be repeated. Hitler did it, right? Napoleon did it. They never learned
01:22:15
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So I'm not so sure that you would want to think that, oh, in this day and age, more access to better information, they should know better. But remember, the elites have always had access to, they have owned information at any given time. So even when people were illiterate,
01:22:34
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you couldn't blame that kind of ignorance on their leads. No, they have access to the information they are interested in. They're just not interested in knowing what makes a healthy human being, because they have no incentive. How will they profit from that? How will that increase their power? What's a harmonious society? No, that doesn't matter. It does not matter to them that people could work five days a week
01:23:05
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And everybody could do that. And there would be enough jobs for everyone. And when people did this, nobody was poor. I'm not saying everybody's a billionaire. I'm saying everybody had more than what they needed. This is possible. In the world we live in. And it's still possible, by the way. Most people are drinking the Kool-Aid of the
01:23:27
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Those people say there's too many people in the world. What's it called? Overpopulation. Yeah. Check out Hans Rosling. I wonder if they killed him. Swedish professor, very popular in the early days of the internet. He did some TED talks too. It's just bullshit, man. The new crisis now seems to be that population is declining.
01:23:52
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That's another thing we could go deep. It's a lot to talk about that thing too, but there's too many dents now. I guess that this means we have five, six shows to come for all these things we could go in depth to. So that's my point about elites. They may actually be versed and not saying anything this way or that way. You may still be right, but I disagree that it's a foregone conclusion that
01:24:19
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The reason they are so old is that they're always clinging to power. They don't want to give it away to the next man. So they hold on as long as they can. Let me say one more thing and I'll let you back in. Now that the elites have hijacked the University of California, I think we discussed it last time, have discovered how to stop aging.
01:24:47
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literally the fountain of youth. And they managed it. They broke the code in humanized rats. And the problem is that before they, you know, they were naive and went public. It's a public research, right? So they went
01:25:07
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to the media, oh, this will be so much good for medicine and diseases and lifestyle and very naive idiots, right? And immediately ceased by, I think it was Peter Thiel, one of these holy gods. So now, so yes, we may see
01:25:28
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Bill Gates and Elon Musk, well, Musk may actually be squeezed out of the elites because he did too much. It's not just a Twitter thing. He's done too much. The satellite is not accelerating World War III with Russia by regaining
01:25:47
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the satellite is surface so I could go on but so let's not say mosque but all the others may stick around 100 years from now 150 years from now, yes, they still can be died by being run over by the bus, but they have that science now, which is horrible right and.
01:26:06
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But what I'm saying, I don't know if you agree or not. If you don't agree, we need a show for that. Actually, we probably. Wait a minute. I'm just saying everybody could have enough of everything and work minimally and live in a surplus world.
Aging, Genetic Manipulation, and Longevity
01:26:22
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Not scarcity. With that, I completely agree.
01:26:26
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But with the thing about they figured out how to stop aging and stuff, I don't agree with that. I don't think they ever will. And it's all like smoke and mirrors. We can definitely, that's a whole big, I don't even want to start this topic because we only have a few minutes left out. So yeah, we're going to have to do this again because again, we just... So you're so alchemy.
01:26:52
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I mean, yes, you can do it like they did with gene manipulation, but you could also do it the natural way via alchemy. No, nature has secrets, man. Nature isn't just about moderation. There are miracles too. But you're not going to achieve immortality or even
01:27:12
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you're not going to double a human lifespan, tinkering with the genes. That's not the problem of aging. Look, evil people, if you read the ancient scriptures, people lived till they were 300, 400. The gods lived even longer. It doesn't mean that because they were all enlightened, aging has to do with a lot of factors. If we lived in our planet, that was much bigger.
01:27:42
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like the exploded planet. We will be giants because gravitation will be different. We adapt to conditions, so time has to do with
01:27:52
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Time is accelerating, by the way. Time has to do with the Earth's spin. You can't throw bombs like that when we have five minutes left. Time is accelerating. Jesus Christ, we have to talk about that for an hour now, but we can't. We don't have time. I hear what you say, but there's different ways to achieve long ... I'm not talking about a healthy, long
01:28:18
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What's it called? Longevity. I'm talking about actually stopping aging. Not immortality. Immortality means they can't kill you, right? You can still die. Maybe you can still get sick, but stop aging is possible. And the fact that we live
01:28:40
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know, different now than we did 100 years ago, 500 years ago, it's not a given. And part of it is genetic. So I totally, I mean, they did it in humanized rats, and there's no difference then to humans. There's nothing miraculous with rats, whether they are humanized in their cells or not, whether they
01:29:04
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They should age faster than us. So I believe it, but we'll see. Both of us will be able to see 50 years from now, hopefully we both be around or 40 years from now, to see if
01:29:19
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Peter Thiel still looks his age or not. In fairness to him, he does look pretty young for his age. He's been into this blood thing. I'm not talking about adrenochrome but this diet thing. The transfusion of younger people's blood.
01:29:41
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Apparently, just diluting the blood can actually have very similar benefits because it seems like we have so much toxic crap in our blood that just diluting it can be just as good as getting a younger person's blood.
01:29:57
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makes sense bro so but that's that's the key that's the key to aging well i'm not i will never from what i know i i don't think we could ever stop aging because uh to stop aging means that every single one of your you know trillions of cells in your body you have to make sure that that cell doesn't experience uh uh damage stress or inflammation which is impossible because
01:30:25
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So basically what you're saying, there's no way to stop entropy. Well, no, no. Here's what I'm trying to say. Because it's the same thing. No, no. When you create energy as part of your metabolism of converting fat and glucose into energy, that process inherently
01:30:45
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creates reactive oxygen species, which create damage, right? So unless you can figure out how to add every, at the cellular level, every little might upon. You're saying aging is a result of processes that we have to do to survive. An accumulation of cellular damage.
01:31:06
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Yeah, but to remove it from the nerd speak, not everybody, maybe your listeners, since they listen to you know all this stuff. To me, it's like Greek. The cells become established. You're saying, I offer to see if it can be reduced to this principle. You're saying, because you're saying aging is a result of processes we are forced to do in order to survive.
01:31:31
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Yeah. It's a byproduct of those processes. It can be delayed, slowed down, ameliorated, but it's, yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Entropy and Cosmic Decay
01:31:40
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Yes. Okay. So, if you're right, then you're right, right? But you could say entropy is also a cosmic version of
01:31:51
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this decay that happens, for whatever reason, entropy happens. Entropy does not happen, I think, because the universe is eating. Or maybe it is, because the universe is. Remember, when you were on my show, we were lamenting that
01:32:07
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energy. We are lived in a system where you have to consume energy. That's the only way to survive and I wish we could not have to do it. Maybe that's why entropy exists in the universe. It's kind of karma for everything. Yeah, because everything is eating everything. Maybe that's the bad karma. At the core of it is the all and it's feeding everything. That's why the universe is becoming bigger and bigger and then it would just eat itself.
01:32:33
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turn into nothingness, the all will become one, the one will become the all, and it's an endless cycle that's been going on since eternity.
Feasibility of Free Energy
01:32:43
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Well, there's that. But is there ways to mitigate entropy? Yes. Because if you are living in a closed system,
01:32:54
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you are right. Even your Gnostic horror scenario there is right. Problem is, the universe is in uni, as implied,
01:33:05
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multi dimensions, et cetera. So in free energy, free energy couldn't be possible in a closed system, but it's possible in an open system, not in a scarcity model, but in a prosperous surplus model. You can extract it from other dimensions, which is basically what's happening with free energy. So
01:33:30
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I'm not so sure that we have to marry the entropy. But we don't have to marry any ideas. I'm very pretty much on
Open Mindset and Diverse Perspectives
01:33:39
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these things. It's not my realm, especially the moment it's fun to talk about, isn't it? Exactly. But I'm definitely I'm just trying to learn and get other perspectives. But it's an L.
Episode Reflections and Future Plans
01:33:49
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I got 30 minutes because my wife has to go work and I got to take care of my kid. So is it OK that we did politics today? Because last time didn't we do spirituality last time?
01:33:59
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Yeah. Yeah. It's okay to do whatever we want to talk about. Okay. I was just thinking not to bore them with the same again and again and again. No, this was awesome, bro. Are you kidding me? We're having you back on maybe in January sometime in a couple of months. Anytime, man. Awesome, brother. Thank you again so much. Thank you for inviting me. How do you stop pausing?