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Robert is bacckkkk and so are we! Lizzie and Simon discuss the twists, turns, and highlights of the past couple of weeks - from horrible wedding suits to the missing character nobody seems to care about.
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Introduction and Listener Feedback
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello, welcome to episode two of Dingle All The Way. I'm Simon. And I'm Lizzie. And it's the difficult second album. We had so many lovely comments and feedback. I'm not going to lie, we were a bit nervous that we would become internet hate figures. But actually, thank you so much for the people who've reviewed, who commented on Reddit, and to Tom, Chad and James, who all emailed. You can email us dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com. We love it.
00:00:26
Speaker
Thank you so much. Yeah, it was amazing having so many like positive responses to the first episode. I think I had assumed that only a handful of people would listen and that my mum would be the main one.
00:00:39
Speaker
But as far as I know, she hasn't bothered to listen at all. So it's just pure joy of the internet.
Accents and Speech Quirks
00:00:46
Speaker
I am intrigued that quite a lot of the people we've got responses from, certainly on Reddit, are in the US.
00:00:52
Speaker
I don't know if you'd expected that. I absolutely had no idea you even could watch Emma Dale in the US. One thing that was interesting was that comment that asked us if we was calling Jimmy Timmy. And I was like, that's not an accent thing.
00:01:07
Speaker
That's an intonation thing. Like, are we... It's not like we have unusual accents. Like, do we have speech impediments if that's what people are hearing? What a way to discover
Podcast Schedule and Major Storylines
00:01:18
Speaker
that.
00:01:18
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Well, now we know. Now we know. yeah I mean think Jimmy me have appeared in these episodes since we last recorded, so it's not a worry on that front. It's so true, unless he comes up in our random character generator and we have rack our brains for what he brings to the table.
00:01:36
Speaker
I'm so glad, though, that our fortnightly approach recording schedule has covered what I would say is the biggest story since we started watching, which is The Return of Robert and...
00:01:49
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to a lesser extent, the Aaron Chan wedding.
00:01:53
Speaker
Yeah, so true. This is one of those things where you definitely have known about this sort of storyline in a much more tangible way than I have in that not two weeks ago i was googling who is Robert Suggton just to set the scene for myself um but something I will say having come to their
Wedding Critiques and Humor
00:02:14
Speaker
relationship completely cold is that in the sort of i don't know grand total of four to five minutes of screen time he got he has had way more chemistry than John ever has with Aaron I was watching it both the wedding
00:02:28
Speaker
um and all of John and Robert's scenes this week and thinking John has more chemistry with Aidan when he's trying to kill him than he does with Adam at the altar.
00:02:39
Speaker
Yeah, what is it about John that like, I think he's not a bad actor at all. The guy, is Oliver, somebody who plays him? um But there's just something about the character of John that's completely unbelievable. And I don't know if it's, but I think I maybe said this last time. I don't know if it's because he's supposed to be like duplicitous and we don't trust him.
00:03:00
Speaker
the that then he doesn't really get alongside any other characters and ah i mean it was just i mean we saw them standing at the altar at the beginning of every episode for a week and every time I thought why i mean it's not even like they're brotherly you know in that sort of awkward way it's like they've never met before every time they're on screen together Yeah, it is sort of like 10 things, not 10 things I hate about you, 50 first dates. That would be a twist. They have to relearn who the other one is each time.
00:03:32
Speaker
And we I mean, obviously we'll talk about Robert, but maybe some thoughts on the wedding first. um And i I think the thing that comes to mind most for me is that I'm just trying to picture the scene when they went with Belle suit shopping.
Character Dynamics and Backstories
00:03:46
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And they were like, what we're really after, and I hope this isn't too big an ask, is two of the most unpleasant shades of beige you can find. That would be that would be a lovely touch of pass.
00:03:57
Speaker
Yeah, and am I right in remembering that they are wearing two completely different suits? like Yeah, Aaron's in like a sort of light light, like the meeting point of cream and beige, and then John's in the meeting point of brown and beige.
00:04:10
Speaker
Nice. Well, though, to be fair, yeah, I suppose I'm comparing it in my mind to when you have, like, lots of ushers or groomsmen and they all wear the same suit. But if you're two grooms, you do not have to wear the same suit. You can wear whatever you want to your wedding.
00:04:21
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Yeah. i think they got the same tie on. They had a sort of, like, light green tie that was, I mean, possibly would have looked nice with a different colour. it was, I would say, an upsetting choice.
00:04:33
Speaker
They had some unusual buttonholes with, like, the most rigid-looking eucalyptus in that I've ever seen. The But having made like flowers for weddings before, I do get it because the buttonholes wilt so quickly that you can see why you would get, I think, plastic flowers and dried grasses.
00:04:53
Speaker
But it was objectively bad. they were They were so spindly and horrible, those buttonholes. And I was thinking, you know, it's going on TV in late June, sorry, late May,
00:05:05
Speaker
where there are lots of flowers, but at one point I could see their breath when they were filming outside. so Clearly we were filming in like February or something, so nothing had flowered. So they were like, I guess we'll just pick some some twigs and just stick them to your shirt.
00:05:20
Speaker
Need I remind you that we're in the north. You might be in balmy Oxfordshire, but we, however, are still coping with very, very cold temperatures up here.
00:05:32
Speaker
Although having said that, Three weeks ago was when it was really warm. Well, I didn't know how long they filmed in advance. I thought they told us on the tour. It was like three to four weeks.
00:05:44
Speaker
Oh, maybe. Then can I see their breath? I just, I wouldn't like to say. um i think my biggest observation of the wedding, which is not anything to do with the grooms, was um I know we were supposed to be wondering where Mac was the whole time, but the only thing on my mind personally was like,
00:06:03
Speaker
How is Lydia still stuck in traffic two weeks later?
00:06:08
Speaker
yeah That's so true. Poor Lydia. She's just like, she is like camping by the side of the road of those like traffic lights that won't change. And she's a law-abiding gal. She's not going to go through a red light, even if it's been stuck there for weeks.
00:06:21
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Well, of course. And I just feel as well that everybody seems to have lost track of her. Like on her own birthday, everyone was wondering where she was. But nobody's mentioned her for weeks. And she, for all we know, is still on like the M62 or whatever it was that they said that she was on. Like I could at least give her a phone call or be like, oh, it's a shame that Lydia's not here, but she was not even mentioned.
00:06:43
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, and Sam's presumably just like eating dry crackers for every meal. like yeah well, Sam appears to just be wheeling Joe around and like getting everything for him.
00:06:56
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So maybe, I guess, it's just keeping him busy while Lydia's in traffic.
00:07:03
Speaker
i think it's an amazingly patient... um celebrant she kept saying I've got to go to another wedding in like 10 minutes so that they were like don't worry it'll just be another few hours so if you just buckle up I thought the same I thought imagine if you booked that celebrant and then they were sort two to three hours late and they were like sorry it's just that some guy like got out prison who was his ex and like they had this whole thing and we couldn't find anybody but I did get a free drink at the wall pack and I don't know how it works for
00:07:35
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non-religious ceremonies but I do know if it's in a church and someone interrupts the does anyone know any objection or any reasons they can't get married you cannot go ahead with the ceremony even if it's a joke you have to cancel yeah this one they just seem to be like actually um on the whole We don't mind. We're going to but it's going to go for it.
00:07:53
Speaker
If that's okay. I was thinking the same because I've been to a few weddings where the guy, um, like leading it has been like, I know that it could be a really funny joke, which I'll say, you know, it's illegal for us to carry on with the wedding. If anybody objects, so please don't object.
00:08:07
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And then they just carried on. But yeah, like you said, is that a Church of England thing? Are we just blinkered by our church backgrounds? Maybe. Maybe. I've never been to a wedding that was in a village hall before.
00:08:21
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No, and also never been to a wedding with a reception that looked quite so bleak as like a few fairy lights in the wall back where they go multiple times a day.
00:08:32
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and there's just various old men in suits who as far as I get told hadn't been in the church so they just, cut or sorry, in the village hall so they just popped in to watch Lisa Brydie get steadily drunker which was highlight I will say. Yeah, that was lovely.
00:08:46
Speaker
A question that I have is you know a couple of episodes ago they were meeting up with Charles for like a rehearsal or like to to check that there were enough chairs and stuff and he just sort of had like a five minute cameo and I was like oh that's nice Charles is back for a bit we haven't seen him since and then they didn't appear to do anything in the church that's so true because he had absolutely nothing to do with it in fact you're not allowed to mention God in a in a non-religious ceremony so um maybe meeting him was the nail in the coffin on that and They're like, um we just simply don't want to see you again.
00:09:19
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I guess Charles's main role as a vicar does seem to be that he has spiritual oversight of the chairs.
00:09:27
Speaker
Someone's got to do it and he does it, I'd say badly, but at least he's giving it a go. If no one else is looking out for the spiritual needs of the chairs, like I don't know, i don't know where they're going to go So it is good of him.
00:09:41
Speaker
um So obviously like John had absolutely no guests except for Victoria who is equally Aaron's friend so would have been there either way so no one seems to mind that not a soul wants to come to this wedding I know they tried to get some people to the stag do that was more of a priority apparently than to actually inviting them to the wedding. but So true.
00:10:00
Speaker
But I mean we've got to talk about the big thing like so from your googling from your stray knowledge what do you know about Robert? um I know that he went to prison for killing somebody who attacked Victoria. That's right. So should say the father of her child, in fact, because she was sexually assaulted on on a night out and then got pregnant.
00:10:22
Speaker
Yeah. Fun fact fact, that guy, he later in real life married the guy who played his brother. So who that's fun. Oh, that's a lot to take in. um Actually, yeah, I think I did. i did discover that, especially because um in an earlier episode, the one after the slurry was first released,
00:10:40
Speaker
Someone was like, Harry's in hospital. Somebody was like, it's
Sarah's Storyline and Character Performances
00:10:45
Speaker
terrible. Harry's in hospital. And i was like, who the heck is Harry? Or maybe his name was Henry. I don't even remember. But then it transpired. It was Victoria's child. i was like, oh, yeah, she has a child.
00:10:54
Speaker
And I do think maybe we should have a forgotten child count each time we do an episode of like the number of times a child is mentioned where we're like, oh, yeah, they have an invisible child. I forgot about that.
00:11:06
Speaker
And there was mention of Seb, of course, in this episode. So, what's that? and Who is Robert's son with Rebecca, who died. But um you may recall that Ross, when he first came back, was talking about after some in-laws.
00:11:21
Speaker
um And so, rob sorry, Ross was dating Rebecca. So many R's. um at some point and i guess looked on Sem as his own, I don't know. But um I assume Sem is going to come back as a 16-year-old ASAP, even though he would genuinely be maybe eight.
00:11:39
Speaker
Yeah, I do remember that, actually. um Yeah, so that's what I know about Robert. And then um like i I thought that he was the one that everybody was like, wow, Aaron and Robert, great relationship. We love them. It's going to be amazing.
00:11:54
Speaker
But then quite a few people in the most recent episodes have been like, get away from him. He's so toxic. This was so bad. So what was your read on the relationship? Well, I am not proud to say that I was a huge member of the Rob Ron community back in the day. so I like ah Rob Ron being a lovely portmanteau of Robert and Aaron.
00:12:12
Speaker
ah So personally, I was a huge fan of their relationship. And I will say there were some obstacles along the way. At one point, he took out a hit man on Chaz. He tried to deal and tried to kill Paddy in like a silo.
00:12:25
Speaker
So, you know, ups and
Character Analysis and Representation
00:12:27
Speaker
downs. ah But generally i Generally, I was a big fan and they did get married after I stopped watching. So they they you know they they went in the distance at some point.
00:12:37
Speaker
And then, of course, he went to prison. So I think the thing they thought was toxic was maybe more the fact that Robert cut it off and like refused to see him and wouldn't answer his letters and sort of, I guess, trying to be nice, cut him out of his life. Slash, they didn't want Aaron to be trundling off to visit him in prison every every week and not be able to date future people.
00:12:57
Speaker
Sure. In the village, I think people had, you know, checkered thoughts about Robert. In my heart, hashtag Rob Ron forever. Okay, I think I get it. Nice. yeah I feel like, given that John is also, like, killing quite a lot of people and has plenty of dodgy, manipulative traits...
00:13:19
Speaker
He might, and like, Aaron might as well be with somebody who he actually has chemistry with if he's going to be with a murderer. It might well have been Aaron. Robert did kill someone else. He did kill Katie at one point, who a long time ago, so that was... But again, most of these people they kill, it's sort of an accident. So, you you have to forgive and forget.
00:13:39
Speaker
You have to take a few murders with a pinch of salt. That's what we learned in Emmerdale. It really made me laugh as a side point when um Lewis said to um Ross, like, oh, I was so excited to meet you all, but it turns out my biological family is made up of murderers and liars. And I was like, to be fair, it would be a shock to the system if you were just like a normal person existing in a normal life. And then you found your biological family. It turns out they're all from Emmerdale and like riddled.
00:14:09
Speaker
with trauma and difficult pasts he'd be like actually think I'll just go and spend time with my with my adoptive parents I've met you I've had enough actually I'm sure we'll come back to the wedding and stuff but I do one of things I one of my highlights well a couple of things I to highlight around Lewis actually um firstly why on earth would his surname be Barton because you know his mum was Emma Barton but and you know, he's been adopted by this couple, whoever they are, presumably he would take on their surname. Even if not, why would Emma give him the surname of the man she was having an affair from rather than like the actual biological father's surname or her maiden name or something? Why be like, you need the surname of my husband that I am cheating on and later murder.
00:14:59
Speaker
Yeah, that is an unusual move. And maybe that is why he's so keen to understand the family. i think For some reason, being given your name, there must be a reason that i I am linked to you inextricably. I do feel sorry for his his parents who were just like, we adopted you, we love you. And you've just gone on this wild goose chase for the most insane family imaginable.
00:15:21
Speaker
Yeah, I can understand wanting to know your roots. I think that's fair. Yeah. But, i mean like, i think imagine that being the roots that you find. Absolutely fine with that, but I'd just be like, I think when he's like, I need, I don't know, I feel at least I'd like him to phone his parents and be like, I have found my brother and he's a criminal.
00:15:42
Speaker
That's the thing. And maybe he is. And it's a real shame. The other thing was going
Community and Farming in Emmerdale
00:15:49
Speaker
to mention about him is how nice his flat is.
00:15:52
Speaker
Yeah. Doesn't he at some point say like, oh, I live in dodgy end of town or something. And then we saw his flat and I was like, do you? That was was beautiful. And like i i I have never been a drug dealer, personally speaking, but I don't and i don't think like small scale marijuana farming is likely to...
00:16:11
Speaker
get a full-time plus income i could be wrong i know that um even emeraldale when you have a job you don't really like do it very often like everybody's just leaving work willy-nilly more on that later but does lewis have a job like have we so has he said what he does is he like a student
Storyline Anticipation and Conclusion
00:16:30
Speaker
what is he heard one mentioned or at least i can't remember one if he has got one he certainly isn't even crossing his mind to turn up to it but as you say that is the emeraldale way ah That is largely the way of things.
00:16:42
Speaker
Yeah, not sure how i feel about Lewis. I do find him a little bit annoying. Really, I love him. Really? oh I'm so glad. Pleased for you. who yeah Yeah, I like, um I don't know. mean, he's better actor than I thought he'd be based on what i'd seen in Heartstopper. So he's obviously had some lessons and or the acting in Emmerdale is broadly lower than the acting in Heartstopper.
00:17:05
Speaker
I know. But um yeah, I also, i wrote down one line i did want to remind us of that he said, which I think just characterizes how very quickly he's been immersed in total madness.
00:17:17
Speaker
um I want the full story or he's not getting out of my loft. but yeah okay yeah that is nice and I do think were any of us to move to the village that's the kind of thing we would all be doing at a moment's notice he just wants to meet his family and already this is happening yeah um sorry to like do a handbrake turn back to the wedding but so you said more cam like what are you enjoying Robert so far I am enjoying Robert so far. I think he seems sweet.
00:17:48
Speaker
Like based on nothing really, I'm on his side because I feel like he obviously went to prison and was like, this is what's best. Boundaries are good. I will not stop him from moving on.
00:18:02
Speaker
But he still loved him all along. And that's... It's a sweet story. um And now he's just come out and he's tried to say his piece. Admittedly, the timing was really bad. He could have come a lot earlier to go and ask him what was going on.
00:18:16
Speaker
um And I... Yeah, I think that he has got a lot more chemistry with Aaron than Jon has. And also, Jon is just so manipulative. We're seeing it more and more. But, um like, when...
00:18:28
Speaker
they got back from the hospital and Aaron, I think rightly was just like, so why have you been at the hospital seeing Aiden? And i wrote down, he said like, this is why I had to lie. i knew that you wouldn't understand, like just turning it all on him.
00:18:45
Speaker
and then he makes it about like alcohol and like gets a bottle of alcohol and was like, I bet you want this. And then he's like, being insecure isn't a great look on you. And you're like, you're just a really nasty piece of work.
00:18:55
Speaker
Even if you weren't killing people. um and i don't trust him with a barge pole no it's not i don't think that is an expression if i can be honest you might not touch him with a barge pole like it's a water off a duck's bridge for me ah lovely stuff and i'm so sorry to correct a woman in 2025 will i won't do it again um i did wonder what was going on with that alcohol moment because it felt very significant and because it felt either like awkward brand placement of lovely whiskey. Of a product that they then hated to drink.
00:19:30
Speaker
um I assumed that Aaron must have like a historic drinking problem that was on the show when I wasn't watching, but is that not true? Well, he might have done. I don't recall it, but it's not, maybe it was in the in the gap or maybe I've forgotten it. he He's had a lot of problems, bless him He's been through a lot.
00:19:46
Speaker
I like using the gap as a phrase, like should be capitalized, the T and the G of like the time when Aaron was drinking. It's like, um, It's like the 400 years of silence in between the Old and New Testament. Yeah, the way it is.
00:20:02
Speaker
yeah Which I understand is is not a joke that many of our listeners will find funny. Yeah, and then it did also kind of make me laugh that um John, when they got in the van and like drove away with the music on, was like, this is exactly how it was meant to be. i was like, oh no, that wasn't when they were in the van, that was during their first dance. And I was like, look around you.
00:20:25
Speaker
I don't think this is exactly how it's meant to be. ex-husband just turned up and tried to throw your whole wedding off. And now you're having quite a lacklustre reception. The best man has just arrived.
00:20:37
Speaker
and you're riddled with anxiety about the body in the lake being dredged up. Is this exactly how it was meant to be? Like, really? You could look back on your wedding day and be like, sure, wouldn't change a thing. and And then a first dance I tend to think of as being something that happens on a dance floor.
00:20:52
Speaker
And maybe first of many dances before other people come and join them. Not two chemistry-less men in brown suits swaying to a royalty-free soundtrack.
00:21:05
Speaker
Yeah, they really could have called it. Shall we have the only dance now? But it doesn't have the same ring to it. I think that did capture quite a lot of actual wedding energy. Like, have you ever seen a first dance that isn't just two people awkwardly shuffling and everyone being like, I don't know where to look?
00:21:21
Speaker
I did think that no one looked bad at a first dance. It's like if the love carries you through until I saw ah friend of mine and it's like, wow, you look absolutely awful doing this. and like i didn think i I don't think I've ever seen a first dance that have been like, you guys made that work. It's always been like, oh, tough watch. I'm just very sentimental, I suppose.
00:21:40
Speaker
And all of my friends are bad dancers. Two things to know about us, but important. Yeah. And then off they pop.
00:21:51
Speaker
ah When the actual reception been going for maybe eight minutes, I thought, let's call it a day. Yeah, was still broad daylight, wasn't it? And they'd only really probably got married, presumably, at about 4pm by the time everybody had turned up. um what i This is a side note, but I will say I've noticed...
00:22:09
Speaker
in recent in maybe just in the last two, three weeks, I don't know if they've just got a new hair and makeup team, but everyone's looking amazing. There are so many people I'm looking at being like, I was thinking, you know, Chaz's looking great, Belle's looking great, someone else had just got different hair and makeup. And they're whoever's on that team, kudos, it's working well.
00:22:27
Speaker
I know I'm obsessed with Dawn, but they're doing a lot more with her. Yes, she finally doesn't look on death's door. I don't know if it's just like representation of the fact that she's meant to be like emancipated now and that Evan is maybe out of hospital, but still not visible.
00:22:42
Speaker
um Or yeah, maybe they're just like, you know what, you can look nice for once. But it's yeah, it's lovely. Everyone looks great. Everyone's absolutely killing it. um And God bless them for that.
00:22:54
Speaker
That's the important thing. I love Chaz's hat. Oh my gosh. she When she was walking on the bridge, she clearly was struggling to keep on her head. But it was, it was, it was a look. um Mandy, however, was wearing the most abhorrent shade of green. Yeah.
00:23:10
Speaker
It was more like a neon yellow on my screen, but I do see what you mean. was yeah i think it was yeah it was a hybrid yellow-green. But i maybe that's just true to form. like I think Mandy probably would do that. yeah yeah that is Yeah, they've dressed her well for her character. yeah um And I don't know if you've seen much in the time that you've been watching of the Paddy-Aaron relationship.
00:23:30
Speaker
um because Was that surprise to you when he got up as Best Man? Huge surprise. I'm not sure I've ever seen them even glance at one another. Because when I started of watching... Aaron and Paddy lived together and it was just the two of them because Paddy had been with Chaz first time around.
00:23:46
Speaker
um And then when they split up, Aaron just stayed there and Paddy was the first person Aaron came out to. And they had this lovely like father son style relationship, and which this time around does seem to have been light, I would say, on the ground.
00:24:00
Speaker
I would like to see more of that. I think that would be really wholesome. And I really like Paddy. I think he's a good egg. um That's not meant to be a comment on the way that he looks. People can't see that my hairline is very much the same as Paddy's, but take a look for it.
00:24:16
Speaker
Honestly, not no meant to come out like that. Yeah, no, I think that seems like a sweet relationship. I'd like to see more of it. Certainly ah more significant relationship than Aaron and Mac. Yeah, bless Mac. um If I was a best man, I probably wouldn't pop to steal marijuana, which arguably could have happened any day. Like, why did it have to happen when he was in full best man regalia?
00:24:37
Speaker
One of the things I wrote down was like, why does nobody in the show have any boundaries? I am reading a book about boundaries at the moment. You can probably tell. But um yeah, like Sam just not being able to say no to joe Mac not being able to say no to like popping into a loft. You're like, guys, just be like, actually, it's not a good time.
00:24:57
Speaker
And when they find that, be like, I'm leaving. Sorry. It wouldn't make for very good television though. So I do know why it happens. Yeah. Okay, what other highlights have you got from the week?
00:25:08
Speaker
um My highlight number one nice was that we are seeing lots of Belle and she's on good form. Well, not lots of Belle, but Belle is around and she's on good form. Because when i I really only started watching Emmerdale when she was already with Tom and he was like quite manipulative.
00:25:31
Speaker
And then obviously it turned like fully abusive and horrible. But like when I started watching, she was already in quite a bad way and like not trusting her own opinions and like being gaslit all the time. um And so, that yeah, I feel like the last couple of weeks has been the first time I'm like, this is what Belle Dingle is like. And I think she's really great.
00:25:48
Speaker
And she's like, yeah, she's coming back on good form. It was a terrible, terrible shame to see Piper again because that dog. That dog is so ugly.
00:25:59
Speaker
um For the listeners to the podcast, Simon and I were so glad when we thought that dog had died. We were just like, I know it's really sad for her, but the dog is so ugly. it was a real reprieve that we were grateful for, but it was only a reprieve.
00:26:17
Speaker
Yeah, when the dog was in fact not dead, we were like, oh, pleased for Belle, but now it's back on our screens. But yeah, so Belle was one of my highlights. i don't know if you have any thoughts on her. Nice.
00:26:30
Speaker
Yeah, um to go to the other end, the sort of more sad end, I was just, it's more or less thinking about how shoehorned in it was that Debbie was moving to Australia just to give a good reason that she wasn't going to take a short trip to visit her cancer-ridden daughter, um which, know, it does make slightly more sense i'd argue a mother if and when she does find out her daughter has cancer would probably still come back to comfort her but at least they can't be like she's she can't come to visit because she is three hours drive away and that's just insuperable yeah i love that they were like where should she live that would mean it's quite a long time for her to get back
00:27:07
Speaker
I know, let's put her literally the furthest possible place, Australia. She's in a Fijian island. But um i I did wonder, i mean, you've not seen Debbie. She was sometimes not a lovely person, but I think she would probably mention to her mum and daughter that she was having a wedding. i think that might come up.
00:27:27
Speaker
Yeah, that is kind of wild. um ah Presumably, is it just because the actor doesn't want to be on Emmerdale? I guess so. Yeah, I assume so. Yeah, that's a shame. it is. i mean, yeah, they've laid the groundwork, but I do think the actress playing Sarah is doing a brilliant job with her story.
00:27:46
Speaker
And i what Emma Dill does really well somehow is having actors who were in the show as children like develop into really good adult actors. So Belle was there as a child, ah Jacob, Sarah, um April. like All these people have grown up on the show, and all of them, I think, really...
00:28:03
Speaker
first rate actors on the show now. so yeah, it's little lovely to see Sarah like blasting him into this really hard, but um but really good story, I think. Yeah, i Sarah was one of my highlights.
00:28:14
Speaker
That's a nice little segue into my second highlight. um Yeah, I think she's doing really well. And like, what a rough hand in life to be dealt. um I find it really tough watching people struggling alone.
00:28:28
Speaker
That's like one of the things about Emmerdale that I find hardest is when people are really sad and they're not telling anybody. And I found that really hard to see. Yeah. But then so lovely when she finds Jacob in the hospital and they have a hug. I was like, oh, she's quite emotional.
00:28:45
Speaker
um I was then quite confused about how he managed to just leave his shift to go back and talk to Sarah at home. Like he is a doctor and he is on duty. And sure, just leave the people to die, I guess.
00:28:57
Speaker
But I thought that was nice. I did then find it quite unusual how... in their next conversation, he was kind of just a bit like, I guess we can get back together and have a family.
00:29:09
Speaker
but like, starting from, she was like, I thought we were just friends. And he was like, I will impregnate you, I guess. and raise your child Which would be like, left bread yeah, the definition of talking across purposes.
00:29:25
Speaker
um And I can see where he's coming from in a way. And that he's like, I am effectively an orphan now. I mean, he's not but he he wouldn't he wouldn't consider ever encountering his the woman who brought him up as a mom who's no longer around Layla's sister was his sort of adoptive mom um but anyway he's obviously very you know he's like I've it's really hurt me to lose my mom uh and I could like be the parent figure but it is quite a jump from having like I am starting IVF to him being like okay I guess I don't need condoms like I don't
00:29:59
Speaker
Yeah, but also i would really like that to happen because I think they are, I know he was a bit like rubbish before, but they are good together. They're both sweet. And I think it kid it could be a cute little situation.
00:30:14
Speaker
Because they live in Emdale, it will last no more than six months. But now it could be a lovely little stop camp. And I think I am sort of team Cammy, but I also like Jacob. So it's it's I think whichever way she turns, she's got a good mountain.
00:30:28
Speaker
She may choose neither of them. I think I am team Cammy, but I am also just team like Sarah having a stable life. And this feels like the way she's going to do that. But she lives in Everdale again, so she won't ever have a stable life, which is a shame for her.
00:30:45
Speaker
speaking of stabilized one of my highlights was i spotted a poster of the community garden and that got me thinking so i love these things that the little touches of village life that are going on whilst people aren't busy being like murdered or dying like have you planted the lobelia yeah but that sort of vibe i just i wonder where that is is that where the allotments are maybe at the edge of the grave maybe i was thinking because like a community garden feels like something more that you need in a city where people don't have big gardens themselves or don't have lots of, you know, rural life around them. But maybe, maybe there, don't know if it actually exists. I don't remember seeing a community garden when we did the set tour, but um I doubt they're going to keep that up 24-7.
00:31:29
Speaker
I don't think we did see a community garden. I wonder if it's for all of the people who... um are renting in very strangely arranged house chairs and they're like I don't really know if I'm allowed to do anything with this garden because I live here with five other people none of us own this property one of them is have a v exactly yeah like I guess they just need a community garden because it's the only place they can really call home and i wish them well with that endeavour they truly do absolutely
00:32:04
Speaker
um My final highlight, which isn't really a highlight, more just raising intrigue, is that Ross's pronunciation of things is quite unusual. ah Okay, to say more.
00:32:16
Speaker
I will. I noticed this episode, sorry, really like the idea of you using that phrase instead of like, you know, like, say less. Yeah.
00:32:31
Speaker
it's like a slightly more aggressive way of being like oh please tell me more about that like say more convince me I will um yeah he said like what's your address instead of what's your address to Lewis I know that was quite strange and then instead lair which I think was about Lewis's loft he said lair oh who's like, is this your Leia? And I was like, what does that mean? Oh, I think he's trying to say Leia.
00:33:06
Speaker
And I guess it's one of those things where you're like, does he mispronounce some words or did it just go wrong? And they thought we probably don't have time to retake that scene. I guess the Leia thing could be just his accent. it's like That's quite like a sort of Scouse thing, isn't it? Is he Scouse?
00:33:21
Speaker
Yeah, i was going to say it feels quite Northwest. so I did notice that it might be genetic because Lewis did, I think, tried to say the word strata and said straighter instead at one point.
00:33:32
Speaker
I didn't notice that, but um maybe I assumed it was ah Freudian slip about sexuality. Yeah. And Lord knows that the script writers do often put in that sort of deep thinking wordplay. That's, um that's really a go-to for them.
00:33:49
Speaker
It's something they're known for. Although someone, um James, who emailed in, who went to the set for a special birthday thing, which sounds amazing, um, said that they do, they were talking to the cast and they do each scene three times at least. And it's shocking to me because so many of them seem like they're like, well, granted it didn't quite make sense, but it's in the canon. We're going to keep rolling.
00:34:13
Speaker
There was one episode where I like, One of them just actually said the wrong thing. I can't remember what it It was a few weeks ago. Somebody actually just said something that made literally no sense. Or like used the wrong name for somebody and the scene just carried on. like Why was that the best of three takes?
00:34:31
Speaker
Heaven knows what happened the other ones. Yeah, that is wild. But he's got that in town. Well, shall we do our little character random name thing? I've got all lined up. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah just in case people are shooting in for the second episode and not the first episode, each episode we're picking ah random name picker for the whole cast list and chat about what we think that person does or doesn't bring to the show.
00:34:55
Speaker
and this one, oh we've got Leo Goskirk. ah you familiar with Leo Goskirk? Of course I'm not. Oh, wait. um Yeah, a child.
00:35:08
Speaker
A child. He is... He lives with Marlon and ah the other one. And April, I guess. Rona, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I remember when April was AWOL.
00:35:22
Speaker
He was around a bit more and very sad, obviously. Yeah. Yeah, nice. So, yeah, both character and actor have got Down syndrome.
00:35:32
Speaker
And that was a storyline. Like, the character's been there since birth. He was... I believe Marlon and Rona's baby from the first time around that they were a couple. I believe, I think there was some story about one of them trying to like skip town with the baby.
00:35:48
Speaker
forget. ah I mean, it's hard to say what he brings to it because he's barely in it. And what he is, he's given like two words to say, but I guess it's nice that he's there.
00:35:59
Speaker
It's nice. I have enjoyed seeing them use like a hybrid of sign language and speak to them as well. I think that's yeah nice to have on the show. And yeah, a little slice of life, I guess, for what a lot of families live with.
00:36:14
Speaker
Yeah, it'd be nice to see more of him, wouldn't it? Presumably you can't have the children in too many episodes because they are actually children. Yes, I'm sure there are restrictions on that. And I, yeah, I don't know what the limitations are on on him as an act, you being able to do long hours or, you know, what he can and is willing to do. But I do think in general with disability casting, I think it's good when they actually have storylines that aren't to do with their disability.
00:36:40
Speaker
And i maybe it's harder with him than it would be with with other actors, I don't know. but um But yeah, he was was originally obviously a story about being pregnant with a Down syndrome baby. That was the sort of storyline. and And I like that it's he's still a character however many years 10 years later or whatever it is it's not just a story that was one and done he didn't ship him off to a relative or something and think oh that's that story over but yeah I think having a little more present have uh obviously in the April storyline his story was like any brother would be distressed about someone going so that was that he played it yeah it was good that they had that role there I think yeah it'd be nice to see a bit more of him I guess like like you said
00:37:18
Speaker
It feels like with Emmerdale, lot of the children are just on it forever. So hopefully when he's older, we'll see more of him. That'd be sweet. Yeah. Well, there you Leah Goskirk, everyone.
00:37:30
Speaker
Thank you for what you bring. I do think it's strange that at one point, Rona and Paddy were a couple and they had the surname Kirk and Goskirk. And it's like, you should get married and double barrel and be called Goskirk Kirk.
00:37:41
Speaker
It was the right choice. And it's sad that they didn't take it. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess our final question, was there any farming in this episode? so true. In these episodes.
00:37:54
Speaker
um Was there any farming? Well, I guess we're still sort of in a slurry-based hangover. There's lots of Moirubing anxious re-water contamination finds, which guess is part of every farmer's life.
00:38:09
Speaker
There's a lot of fallout from farming, but we haven't seen them do any farming. does cannabis farming count? He's farming cannabis. So true, yeah. Well, maybe yeah maybe that's just the way that Emmerdale Farm is going now and in a year's time will just be a drugs operation. They'll be like, it's a farm!
00:38:29
Speaker
And maybe it would help everyone calm down a bit. and i do remember seeing a photograph, and it may be apocryphal, but of how a drug person was caught because
00:38:42
Speaker
was um court because it snowed everywhere, but their attic was so hot that there was no snow on the roof. I've seen that. Up in the north, you're getting the snows. We saw all the snow not long ago.
00:38:53
Speaker
was Lewis's beautiful flat like snowless on top? Yeah, that could be a nice little throwback episode. um Yeah, I don't know.
00:39:03
Speaker
Well, I'm sure we're going to see lots more of the police. So maybe PC Swirling will recognise him and be like, it's you with the snowless roof. the first I'm really excited to find out what happens now that they found the body.
00:39:19
Speaker
That's true. And it was quite clever that they thought it was Anthony. like, yeah, they would think that. So that is... They would think that. And it was also very clever that um John had just turned his phone off and put Franz Ferdinand on so loud that he couldn't hear a child being like, there's a body.
00:39:35
Speaker
Lovely that the police haven't cornered off the route sufficiently, that they can just drag human remains out of the river and passing children notice it. Yeah, that is lovely, isn't it? Yeah, it's a nice touch.
00:39:48
Speaker
i Yeah, do you think that Ruby's going to hand herself in now? Because she was on the point of that before. Maybe. I think hopefully they'll wait until they get a little more intel, but no none of them have ever made a good decision, so it's hard to say.
00:40:03
Speaker
And they well how will they get more intel because John is on his honeymoon and won't be able to tell them that it's not Anthony? No, but feel at some point the police will be like, we need to identify this body. And it's not, like, they they at least be like, it's a mixed race, man in his 20s or something, rather that they than, like... True.
00:40:23
Speaker
Oh gosh, yeah, I am quite excited. it's a shame, isn't it, when you finish an episode on a Friday and I know that's probably why they do a big cliffhanger. But you're like, wow, now I have to wait until Monday for the next. And you guys will have to wait two weeks for us to come back. prox Again, all these things are approximate.
00:40:39
Speaker
Thanks so much again for all the lovely messages and you can get in touch ah dingle all the way dot pod at at gmail.com. Yeah, we would love to hear more questions, comments, bits and bobs. how um It's so nice that people enjoying listening to this.
00:40:57
Speaker
Yeah. And and didn't maybe we need to change our sign-off because last time it was just, I'm so sorry. i think that shouldn't be our regular sign-off, but don't quite know what it should be.
00:41:09
Speaker
um But thanks. Yeah. Bye.