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You can't hack a notepad (Emmerdale 2-12 June 2025)
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Our latest musings on Emmerdale village, including an expert guest opinion the the slurry-in-the-lake storyline, some now potentially-irrelevant opinions about Gabby and Vinny’s relationship given Friday 13th’s episode, and Simon laughing so much that his laptop and everything on his desk comes crashing to the floor.
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Introduction & Audience Engagement
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody and welcome to episode three of Dingle All The Way. I'm Lizzie. I'm Simon. And this is our podcast where we talk about, I mean, I would say all things Emmerdale, but quite specific things Emmerdale, because there's so much to talk about we couldn't possibly cover it all. um Yeah, but every couple of weeks, um Simon and i get together and we chat about our favourite bits from the last two weeks in the village.
00:00:27
Speaker
um And we also love hearing your comments and your questions. Loved questions. getting a lot of emails and social media contact over the last couple of weeks. um So that's been really fun to hear from you.
00:00:38
Speaker
Again, lots of people from the US. That's quite fun. Yeah, who knew? Yeah. um If you'd like to email, you can send an email to dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com.
00:00:50
Speaker
um And you can also leave comments on our Spotify episodes. We've seen a few of those come in. Can you do that on Apple Podcasts? Do you know? um you can leave reviews on Apple Podcasts I don't think it per episode but you can do overall reviews and we've had a few of those as well yeah that's so true um so yeah thanks so much do um if you have other people who enjoy watching Emmerdale and you think they'd like the podcast then do send it their way as well I've actually had um a couple of friends this week who've been listening to it even though they don't watch Emmerdale which I thought was huge um yeah I was doing my weekly shop in Morrisons and I heard a voice shout, oh my word, is that Lizzie from the Dingle The Way podcast? And I thought, how have I been recognized in public from a medium which does not show my face? And then it turned out, yep. was somebody I already knew but it was still a kick especially as he's never watched Emmerdale yeah he's never watched Emmerdale he said he would like listen to a bit of the first episode he'd already listened to the whole of the first episode and he was halfway through the second one and he was like this is hilarious and I think I'm going to start watching Emmerdale as a result so maybe you've got friends who you would like to get into Emmerdale and help them understand a bit of what it's like and you could send them our pod which I think would probably put them off but it didn't seem to be for him
00:02:06
Speaker
Yeah, unless they're like really precious about it and will not hear a word against it, in which case this is not the right place
Character Analysis: Nate's Impact and Death
00:02:12
Speaker
for them. Yeah, true. We do have a very specific stance, which is we love Emmerdale. We won't hear a word said against it unless we're the ones saying those words. It's like family. We can mock it because we love it.
00:02:24
Speaker
But if a stranger mocked it, no, no, no, Yeah, absolutely not. So it's been quite a big couple of weeks, hasn't it? And we should say we're recording on a Thursday. So if something huge happens on the Friday, then we've not watched that yet.
00:02:36
Speaker
We don't know what's happening. Yeah, true. Yeah, we're normally aiming to record on a Friday. who knows whether anything will happen tomorrow, which we won't be talking about. But yeah. Yeah, it's been it's been like, I guess, all all about Nate. And here's the confession time, I think, for both of us.
00:02:52
Speaker
Nate, we barely knew thee. ah He was technically around for a few months whilst we were watching, but in that time, I think did absolutely nothing. like He maybe appeared in like five episodes in three months or something.
00:03:05
Speaker
He really did peter out. I will say I didn't really care when he died other than I thought it was sad for Frankie. um I think it would have been good if I had maybe watched um the stuff with The Affair with Moira, which might have been quite useful backdrop, but maybe I'll go back and watch that.
00:03:24
Speaker
Because, yeah, I didn't really see much of him at all. And now Cain is obviously like, I can't believe my son's dead. And I'm just thinking you seem to not have any relationship with him, but sure.
00:03:35
Speaker
And Tracy didn't really seem to notice that he was completely and out of contact with her daughter for the first, say, six months of that happening. And then it really preoccupied her. Yeah, then like once she ran out of money, that was really hit her hard.
00:03:50
Speaker
Frankie took it well, though. Frankie did not seem to care when she was told about it, perhaps on account of being played by like a four-year-old or something. that she i mean, she is four, so I guess she would be played by a four-year-old.
00:04:04
Speaker
Look, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just saying it's tricky when you have to work with children.
Unresolved Plot Points & Long Story Arcs
00:04:08
Speaker
Yeah. I do you get it. um I think a big question that I have now is, so after the limo crash, we saw Amy in hospital.
00:04:17
Speaker
And then the final thing that she did before she died was sort of indecipherably whisper to Matty something about seeing Nate or like, did she say his name or something?
00:04:29
Speaker
And I thought that was going to come back to Matty and he would be like, wait, she said this. It has never been mentioned. I don't know if that will come out later or even if if it did come out later, would it affect anything?
00:04:43
Speaker
So did that happen? Yeah. I guess that was just for us, just for the viewer. In show, as you say, they're going to be like, I finally revealed that Nate was in the water. We're like, yeah, babe, we know that.
00:04:55
Speaker
I will say it also say that they were like, he's severely decomposed, but we saw a fully alive human arm in that water not a few months ago. so Yeah, I know. the The arm was really doing the worst.
00:05:08
Speaker
I mean, the most. Both the worst and the most. But yeah, I think that really was just for us to be like, oh my gosh. um rather than i don't think there can really be an in-show reveal about that and i mean other than Matty being like oh maybe I shouldn't have just been like oh you don't know what you're saying you're mad to his dying wife is there is this like like like a classic soap thing where the writers just add things in to deliberately frustrate the audience over a really long period of time
00:05:39
Speaker
but like We know something and everyone else is being really dumb. Because also, how long are they going to drag out this storyline where nobody is suspecting John? It's absolutely killing me. Yeah, i mean, soaps do love to play the long game, sometimes too long. And I will say that this one looks like we've got, it's got some mileage.
00:05:56
Speaker
And yeah nobody, i think I think the only person who's responding in any way sanely is Belle. Like, I get it, you know, Kane's grieving Tracy, I guess, is grieving her husband. She doesn't mention that, you know, they certainly went married when he died.
00:06:10
Speaker
But Belle is the one who's like, no, maybe it wasn't done by his father or his his ex-wife. And she's actually being compassionate to her. And so i was like yes, team Belle. I enjoyed her bringing some level-headedness to to proceedings, which no one else has displayed.
00:06:26
Speaker
No, Belle is great. And she's just quite, she's been quite level-headed throughout a lot of proceedings, but we can come on to that later. Yeah. Is that Hargreaves I can hear? Yeah, that's my cat Hargreaves meowing in the background. That's so nice. I might just quickly pop him in the bathroom. I can miss back.
00:06:46
Speaker
Up to you how much of that you leave in.
Character Dynamics & Redemption Arcs
00:06:48
Speaker
I think it's a nice touch. um I read online somewhere that Oliver Farnworth, who plays John, only signed a one-year contract to be on the show.
00:06:58
Speaker
So we don't... Has that been extended? We don't know. If not, I guess John will be out of the village by August, which I think is when he joined. Yeah, you can often tell by by um cast contracts, can't you? Like when a storyline might end.
00:07:13
Speaker
i mean, I'm sure... I'm sure this isn't something that's going to bury because sometimes you get like the, someone emailed about how, what's his name? Kidney Stealer. Joe. a journalist Joe is having like this redemption arc where he's suddenly nice to people because clearly he's going to stay in the show and we have to forgive him for ah things that in reality you would never again want to be alone in a room with that person.
00:07:39
Speaker
um but you know, in the show, they'll, you know, forgive and forget, I assume. That is how it seems to work. um Something I have enjoyed as well is that Cain, you watched today's episode, didn't you?
00:07:52
Speaker
the Cain, in his grief-stricken state, is finally treating Liam the way that Cain would actually treat Liam. Oh. They have this friendship, which is so unlikely, and I think that in real life, if Cain was a real person and Liam was a real person, Cain would find him absolutely insufferable. LAUGHTER I do think Emmerdale is good at like unlikely friendships. like I love ah the Laurel and Nicola friendship. That's a really strong one.
00:08:20
Speaker
I'm liking the one that's developing between Cammie and Vinnie. um oh i Kim and Lydia, i love their friendship. So I think they do some good, like you wouldn't necessarily expect these people to be allies, but they are.
00:08:32
Speaker
So I quite like that it gives a bit of a dimension to Kim where he's not just grumpy and occasionally evil, but he has just got like a sort of posh friend. Yeah, true. Although, of the ones you just mentioned, i think the only really unlikely one maybe is like Kim and Lydia. I'd say the others are less unlikely. I guess Laurel and Nicola feels less unlikely now because I think we've talked about this. Nicola was sort of much more evil when she was like earlier in the show. Maybe not evil, but she was like everyone hated her and she was really like snappy and horrible to people.
00:09:02
Speaker
And Laurel was maybe like gentler and more naive than she has been in recent year or so. So if maybe they've they've influenced each
Realism in Storylines & External Insights
00:09:10
Speaker
other but more. I have noticed that I've been, um because of a suggestion from one of our emails, I have been re-watching the beginning of the Rob Ron stuff on a massive YouTube playlist from 2014 slash 15.
00:09:25
Speaker
um And I have seen snippets of Nicola there. I'm like, wow, you're being really weird. But maybe that's, I'm seeing her origin story and not even origin. I'm just seeing an earlier part of her story.
00:09:35
Speaker
Yeah, before she mellowed. Yeah, before she mellowed. um Have you anything else to say about the whole Nate thing? And I feel like we should say more. It's been the biggest thing, hasn't it? But like, I i do think Tracy, the actress playing Tracy, is doing great job. I'm really enjoying her getting a bit more screen time than she's had in the past year.
00:09:53
Speaker
um And she is behaving like you might in that situation, you know, just being completely like beside yourself. And ah yeah, she did, keeps talking about like, she knows what it's like not to have a dad. And I wasn't sure if that, her dad went to prison and then he came back and then he got, I guess, manslaughtered rather murdered.
00:10:10
Speaker
So I'm not sure if she means like growing up without him the first time. There's a really fun story actually, back when both Vanessa and Tracy's dads were in prison and they didn't realize it was the same man. So they were surprised sisters. So that was, that was fun.
00:10:23
Speaker
um But yeah, Yeah, I think she's doing a great job and I'm glad she yeah i'm glad she's going to do something. But i do think it is slightly absurd how many people think that Tracy could have killed that man mountain Nate. Like he was huge. Like, and I mean, I i don't know if they know how Nate died yet, because I guess anyone could inject someone.
00:10:42
Speaker
But when they're just like, it if they think it was like a brawl or something, then it's, you know, Tracy's not winning that fight. Yeah, so true. And I do think the body is too decomposed for them to do like toxicity tests, probably. Yeah, maybe.
00:10:58
Speaker
Maybe that's what was actually making people feel unwell from from the lake. It was like the drugs finally coming out of Nate's body.
00:11:09
Speaker
everyone's got whatever vague thing it was that killed with anything's ever been truly specified on the show it wasn't the slurry at all it was the drug i think that if they can get a toxicity report on the body that'll be what sends john down because they'll be like who else would have this drug and they'll be like it could be a vet or a doctor and then they'll ask all the vets and all the doctors and hopefully they'll get john That's my prediction. And that's a lovely segue into some info that you've received from a friend. So true. So um I asked my friend Ruth for some advice on the lake draining, what would you call it? The lake draining storyline?
00:11:49
Speaker
Yes, Farago. Yeah, so Ruth is um a civil engineer and she works for a company who Like do a lot of work with the Yorkshire Water. And so I just, yeah, asked her her opinions on like, how realistic is this storyline where they're draining the lake because of the slurry going into it?
00:12:13
Speaker
Would this actually happen? Would people be getting this ill this quickly? um So she sent across a couple of voice notes for us. ah My first question was like, is this a normal thing? Would a random lake in the woods really be supplying water directly into a village?
00:12:29
Speaker
And it doesn't massively seem to be like treated water because people are immediately getting very ill. So this is what she said about that. So it is a possibility that the lake could be and some form of storage to feed a clean water kind of drinking supply.
00:12:48
Speaker
The clean water treatment works are kind of regulated so any kind of water that comes in from and a source is heavily treated so it goes through different treatment stages to basically make it safe to drink.
00:13:00
Speaker
There's multiple kind of like sampling and monitoring phases as you go through the works So and if there was some sort of contaminant or if there was something wrong, they would know about it pretty quickly.
00:13:12
Speaker
But I guess like there is a possibility that people could get sick from it. You would like to think, and I do think that the procedures and mitigation in place should not allow that they're happening. In the UK, we do actually have really high water quality standards and everything is kind of tested and ah monitored regularly. So it would be a very low risk.
00:13:31
Speaker
Okay, so it sounds like the treatment of water is like very highly regulated and it could have got into the drinking water, but it sounds like it's quite a low risk.
00:13:43
Speaker
Yeah, and and the fact that little Harry instantly got whatever illness he got does seem a huge indictment of Yorkshire water that potentially they should about it. Yeah, definitely.
00:13:55
Speaker
And talking of legal action, I got in touch with somebody who works in the legal department of Yorkshire Water, who's another friend of mine. And I can't remember if told you about this, actually, Simon. um and me find out what he said. I was basically just like, do you have any idea how much a farm would be fine for leaking slurry into a reservoir? And he said, not completely sure, but definitely a lot.
00:14:16
Speaker
It depends on the circumstances. Yeah. Well, that's good to know. Yeah, ah so I guess they would get fined. We really are bringing expert intel on storylines that happened several weeks ago that no one remembers. So you're welcome, everyone.
00:14:31
Speaker
So yeah, I guess the farm is going to get fined and that this could have happened, but it's incredibly unlikely.
Actors' New Roles & Storytelling Techniques
00:14:38
Speaker
i guess that covers most things in soap, doesn't it? um like ah Maybe it's my final comment on Nate. I would be intrigued to know...
00:14:47
Speaker
from people who've been watching throughout all of Nate's three years whatever it was. Was he a well-beloved character? did you Are we all meant to be in Morning? Because in the show, they're always like, he was the best, ever everyone loved him.
00:14:58
Speaker
And I know that the cast, I've read that the cast really liked the actor, but um but i I know yet, other than having various affairs, I don't know if he anything else. Yeah, it'd be good to know, wouldn't it, outside of the cast, does anyone care that he's gone?
00:15:11
Speaker
yeah Yeah. And he's now got some sort of theatre role, which reminds me actually something I was going to mention, that Gail... dearly departed gail is about to play joan of arc in saint joan by george george bernard shaw that's a lovely good ridiculousness of lime isn't it like she's spent how many years on emmerdale just occasionally saying want a pint and now she's got the lead and arguably one of the most famous victorian plays there you go And we are not being sponsored by them, but if... If George Benashaw would like to sponsor us.
00:15:46
Speaker
I'm sure he can think of nothing he wants more from beyond the grave. Yes. um My final thing on the Nate thing, and I actually should have got in touch with my friend who's in the police force. Oh my gosh, so well connected. Yeah, do police actually just wait on your doorstep until you invent a random alibi? Because it does seem like...
00:16:08
Speaker
Obviously, she is innocent. And if someone came to me and said, what were you doing on like the 9th of February? i' be like, well, have no idea. have to check my diary or check can know my WhatsApps whatever. like it might get a bit more intel.
00:16:20
Speaker
Whereas she was just like, yeah, I was definitely here with my sister and and see you later, I guess. It did seem unlikely. like I think in that situation, I would have just been like, I have no idea.
00:16:33
Speaker
can you you want to come in, have a cup of tea while I go through? Like you said, like my WhatsApps or so basically i was thinking about this because every time I do my tax return, I can never really remember.
00:16:47
Speaker
Is that a business expense or not? So sometimes I go back through when I'm going but through my bank account to see if it was business expense or not. I'm like going through my camera roll. I'm such a WhatsApp conversations with my mum just to try and piece together. Like, was I going to be in queue to do some home improvement or like to to equip my studio.
00:17:07
Speaker
And I would have thought that she would be doing something like that. rather than just being a bit like oh I don't know I guess yeah as in the police would surely be like don't worry you can get back to us because then it will be the truth but maybe wait there with a notepad like well just tell us something then yeah exactly um you're definitely a murderer unless you can have an encyclopedic and photographic memory of every day of your past also do they do everything in person with analog technology like do they never just phone someone or send them an email and when they're taking notes need it be with pen and paper i don't know maybe it's so that it can't be like hacked you can't hack a notepad you if you take anything away from this episode let it be that please maybe i'll have that as the um the podcast like episode title yeah idding to
00:18:01
Speaker
you cannot You wouldn't hack a notepad. You wouldn't hack a pencil.
00:18:11
Speaker
ah I did want say, it's tangentially related actually. It was one of those, you know, we said we were going to highlight when characters say exactly what we knew they were going to say. yeah So when Tracy came into the cafe and Sam was all like, can't remember if Sam was saying that she killed a Mordis defending Cain and then Nicola or whoever says, would you like for lunch? And I knew she was going to be like,
00:18:30
Speaker
I've lost my appetite. And then she walked out. And I was thinking, in that situation, what do you do? Like, you've come out for lunch. Obviously, no one would ever dream of making their own lunch in this show. They have to support the local cafe. of course. but Let's just say she hasn't got any food in on account of the grief and whatnot.
00:18:45
Speaker
Is she just going to go home be like, well, I made that sassy line about my appetite, so I guess I just won't eat lunch today?
Predictability & Character Development
00:18:50
Speaker
don't know. Like, what's what's her next step? Yeah, what is her game plan? I don't know. i guess maybe she'll just go back out again when the appetite's back.
00:19:01
Speaker
should pop in the pub maybe or you know just I guess you could go to the store and buy like some overpriced room temp bread but I guess bread's always room temp that was unnecessary where are you keeping your bread if it's not room temperature mine is very much cupboard temperature I suppose ah I guess it's more than it's sort of just open to everyone just sort of wandering and poking at it I guess again that's true of everywhere yeah I can drop my suspicions re-bread yeah that's fine should we move on to our highlights Of the last two weeks. Unless you have anything else Nate related or Lake related. Well, it might come up, but i just like I just don't know anything about him and I don't care that he's dead. So, yeah.
00:19:39
Speaker
Sure. Give us your first highlight. I mean, it's a highlight in as much as it's a low light. ah Eric's sad little birthday party.
00:19:51
Speaker
Like if someone... came to me it was like we've decided to organize a last minute birthday party at your place of work which will doubtless like deter customers so you're gonna you're gonna be taking some dint in your profits and we've invited five people and it's not even on your birthday i'd be like i'm actually okay thanks don't worry about it like i'm okay with not seeing patty mandy who are don't think I've ever exchanged a word with come thing making up like 40% of my birthday party. See, I saw it the other way. i thought, and now I'm rethinking, but I thought, oh, that's nice that it's just a small affair because he specifically said he didn't want to party. And then I was like, you've thrown...
00:20:34
Speaker
An unwanted party for the grumpiest man on the history of the planet. And obviously he's just going to kick off and be like, I hate you for not listening to me. But I think maybe they trot a good line of like, it can't be like all out, but that it's a nice time for him.
00:20:52
Speaker
It feels like worst of both worlds to me because like, again, if I went to my office and someone was like, oh I've invited your neighbours to come to a birthday party. I'm like, ah kind of at work. Like, I hit don't want this.
00:21:05
Speaker
I'm just not even like a cake or anything. Yeah, I do think, given as well, that he does seem to be in dire financial straits, doing it when he can no longer work in a place where people can't buy his products was an unusual move And it's a sickening reminder that he hasn't retired yet. 15 years past the time that most people do. It's 80th birthday. That will no doubt be me, but still.
00:21:29
Speaker
oh Yeah, it'll be all our generation shortly, but It does also seem strange that they would throw it there, given that I feel like over the last week or so, we Eric's actual house has got a lot of airtime and it's really nice.
00:21:42
Speaker
I've really enjoyed getting some more angles on it, seeing that little outdoor terrace where he sat for his, like I don't remember if it was a birthday brunch breakfast. No, breakfast was inside. i didn't know what the meal was.
00:21:55
Speaker
He sat outside. it looked sunny. It looked really nice. There was an inordinately large decanter of some sort of spirit sort of in the foreground of the shot. Like you had to sort of crane around it to actually see how it's made.
00:22:08
Speaker
Yeah, let's hope it wasn't breakfast. Yeah. And I can't remember if I said this on a previous episode of the podcast, but I really want to work out whereabouts they filmed that because it's one of the few places where the inside and the outside match up. Like they actually go in and out of doors and stuff.
00:22:22
Speaker
Yeah, we really have paid more attention on the tour. I don't know if they covered it. We sort of pointed to it because didn't use this off in the distance. I think we did talk about that. Oh, really? Vague recollections of that.
00:22:33
Speaker
And they told us how we could go Home Farm. And I remember they literally gave us like the road name. And I was like, I thought this whole thing was kind of meant to be top secret, but cool.
00:22:46
Speaker
um And I think we've got different views on the Eric storyline in general, because I have found it quite tedious. Like, I think I've... Sorry, saying like a lot.
00:22:57
Speaker
What I find tedious in a storyline is when it's really, really obvious is what what's going to happen. And I think, like, yes, of course, he's going to be a resistant. They're going to hire someone. He's going to hate them. They're going to go He's going to have all his pride, and then he'll eventually realise they're really there for him. It's like, yeah, we're just going through the motions. I think I'd like something as slightly...
00:23:14
Speaker
more unusual I guess. But you you would I think you were more moved by it. Yeah, I found it quite moving. I think just seeing an elderly person who's always been very forthright...
00:23:25
Speaker
Yeah, losing their independence and wrestling with that. That is, yeah, that is part of life. And it's good to think about It's good, I think, for families to talk about it, even though obviously it's being covered in a kind of pantomime-esque way. Yeah. It is starting to get tedious now in that he is just pushing away everybody who loves him.
00:23:48
Speaker
But I think maybe it's coming to an end. I don't really know. Maybe. There doesn't seem to be any real reason why Carrie would live with them, but occasionally it does happen when people, like actual characters, they've got anything in common with leave the show, but they want to keep the character.
Humor & New Character Dynamics
00:24:02
Speaker
They're like, I guess you'll move in here.
00:24:04
Speaker
um Something I did really enjoy is when they got um that home care lady to come and Carrie seems sees her walking down the drive and says, that is some blouse. And Carrie herself was wearing the most awful multicoloured blouse.
00:24:17
Speaker
And I was like, was that on purpose? Is that like the writers in the costume department having a good little joke? Or yeah, she just maybe colourblind. Yeah. say I did wonder is it a little commentary on her lack of self-awareness or is it going to be like a kindred spirit and I couldn't tell if it was going to be our intro to a new character who there for ages but clearly clearly no she's she's gone now yeah although the fact they're talking about moving to next door wherever next door is just are we going to get a new family or something intriguing yeah so true maybe
00:24:49
Speaker
Give us a highlight. Yeah, my next highlight, which I don't know if it's really a highlight. It's just, it's actually, I think, a low light, which is maybe what you said. What the heck is Dawn doing? Like, love Dawn, rightly or wrongly.
00:25:03
Speaker
What is she up to She's headed off to Paris with Jo, who, quite unusual, because isn't Jo still recovering from, like, a broken pelvis or something?
00:25:14
Speaker
Oh, probably. So she's leaving her sick child behind to go to Paris, which... everybody needs a break but unusual moves i would have thought and she's giving clemmy a phone without any thought and i think like online safety for a teenager let alone a nine-year-old is like paramount billy rightly is like have you not thought about this at all and she's like it's not a big deal It actually just really is a big deal. Like anyone with a phone can access like anything and is vulnerable to so much.
00:25:53
Speaker
I got really anxious about Thankfully, this person ask you that this phone has now been stolen by Cammy. So hopefully you should never end up with one. But yeah, that's something you definitely think carefully about. And she's just like, yeah, sure. Have a phone and let's go to Paris.
00:26:10
Speaker
Yeah, it was so I did like that Billie was like, this should be a discussion we both have. It was weird that she was like, I don't actually care. voyage. But um yeah, I mean, I also can't work out whether she is or is not with Jo since it seems to go back and forth.
00:26:24
Speaker
I think they are. Okay. I think that's what they're saying. It's just like a bit tempestuous. Yeah, because mean, what brings a couple together more than attempted murder? That's really and lovely milestone for any relationship.
00:26:37
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, i think I do feel like
Business Operations & Character Bravery
00:26:40
Speaker
the actor... ah playing Dawn is struggling to make sense of the decisions that her character is making and rightly so and also the fact that she just sort bold as brass went up to Belle and was like I will be your business partner now and Belle was visibly like you won't oh and then it just sort happened like there are no HR practices present in the village and yeah businesses just sort of go hand to hand like you know
00:27:09
Speaker
I guess it's my turn to run this bridal business that is apparently just full time based on people living in the village. Yeah, true. Although the lack of HR practices did lead to my ah one of my other highlights, which I hope you don't mind me so going straight into, which is... love you too. um April getting a quick job with Belle.
00:27:31
Speaker
Yes. And I thought that was really nice. I felt really sorry for April when she was panicking about her exams and Marlon was being like, no, you have to take your exams. Stop stressing. It'll be fine. Like, why can't everyone just be kind to her and be like, you actually have had ah really rough year. so then when...
00:27:51
Speaker
She stood up to that guy, Mary, amazing Mary, punched him in the face. I was then really worried that Marlon would be like, you've screwed up your one chance at a job. But everyone was really nice to her.
00:28:05
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Yeah, I was so pleased with because I thought it was going to one of those times where she either just like yelled at him but then refused to answer any follow-up questions in classic soap style. Or as you say, Belle would come back and be like, you're fired.
00:28:17
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But everyone everyone was yeah so supportive and it was... um that was refreshingly un-soap like in a way that I did appreciate. um And I thought it was a clever way of highlighting like just one small part of the trauma she's she'd faced um and relatively realistic where, you know, when she was like having a child has really made him nicer. like, yeah, can see that he might've changed recently, but also not not enough, I guess.
00:28:45
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Yeah. And that the even his girlfriend or wife, whatever it was, it was like, I don't want see even she didn't like blame April yeah that was yeah it was nice not to have any victim blaming for for once I do think we have to remember though that April did make herself homeless by choice when, like, for not loads of reason.
00:29:10
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Like, yeah she experienced real trauma, and that is very sad. all could have been avoided by her not running away from her house. ah I say we're doing the victim victim blaming now. there wasn't enough in the show so I thought I had nuance here. I'm not victim blaming. I'm saying, why did you put yourself in the situation where you could experience drama?
00:29:34
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But maybe that is, is that the definition of victim blaming? Maybe. Well, I think it's a textbook case. Yeah. yeah yeah
00:29:42
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I'm sorry. ah i don't think i'll edit that out i think maybe i just no it's fine i do think you mean because i mean even when she was homeless like dylan and whatever that woman was becky or whatever it was well i just go home like you can i can't go home but you can go home and it's like yeah okay that is that is legit bless her she's been she's been through a lot and she can really you can see gcses wouldn't be top of mind yeah absolutely have you got a highlight for us um It's a small one, but i I think it was even
Parenting Themes & Realism in Portrayals
00:30:13
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today's episode. i
00:30:14
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I really appreciated Cammie not having a clue Clemmie was because so often in the soap, everyone just somehow knows each other, even if they've never been in the scene together and there's absolutely no reason why they would know each other.
00:30:24
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And obviously when and when she was like, I've painted a lovely portrait of who she was, he was like, oh yeah, she's like nine. But i did enjoy first. He was like, Clemmie who? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is nice, especially because we do have a theme of forgotten children.
00:30:38
Speaker
And it's nice that yeah that's true, is that a lot of the children are just never there. For example, in today's episode, when there was just a child with Paddy and Mandy.
00:30:50
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And I was like, what is going on? Because I think in almost the whole time I've been watching, we have never seen Eve, who is Paddy and Chaz's daughter.
00:31:01
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Yeah, just occasionally referenced. Chaz certainly has never looked after her for a moment. She has a small rucksack on the back of the door where she lives, which I think is a nod to the fact that she lives with a child. That's reassuring. But she, i don't think, has ever had a babysitter in her life because she's just popping the child somewhere.
00:31:20
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Speaking of popping, I enjoyed how she unhesitatingly popped pills the second someone's backwards turned. It wasn't even like she was like looking around the counter for things to play with. She was like, okay, now's my moment. I've been biding my time. Absolutely.
00:31:33
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And so bizarre that Paddy, rather like maybe we shouldn't fall asleep while looking after our child, was blaming Bear for leaving his pills out. It's like, if he left pills out and no one else was home, yeah, sure. But you were looking after this child. It was your responsibility not to let her eat pills. That is sort of your fault.
00:31:50
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Also, I was quite confused when barr went to the doctor about not being able to sleep and he's like, I'm an old man. And I was like, are you? He must be 60-something, I guess.
00:32:01
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He's not that old, is it? I don't know. I just feel he probably looks like mid-60s. He's an old man. He's definitely younger than Eric. Oh, truly. um and Eric seems to be getting up to a lot more than Bear ever has.
00:32:15
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And also being able to get a GP's appointment within an hour of phoning. I mean, even to be given a timed appointment, what a dream. That appointment would happen over the phones for sure. Yeah, that is very true.
00:32:27
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Something that I wanted to draw to everyone's attention is, and it is my final highlight, after complaining that nobody on the show ever has real...
00:32:40
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like liquids in their mugs. Sarah has been given two real cups of tea since our last podcast episode. And then today, Paddy and Mandy were having real cups of tea.
00:32:52
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And I just wondered, maybe we are changing things. Like maybe somebody listened. But then I read... And retrospectively re-filmed those seats. I to say, I read our emails. We had one from James Ellis, thank you for emailing in, saying that they shoot six weeks in advance. And I was like, okay, we have not brought change, but they just must have known, I suppose. And nice for Paddy and Mandy to have a real cup of tea, given that the way they've decorated their house now that they live there together, for some reason has a bowl of plastic fruit
00:33:29
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So important. Unless we're meant to believe that that's real fruit, but I don't think we are. Very strange. I hope not. i mean, yeah, let's assume that they just decide that's a lovely feature.
00:33:42
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Yeah. And you can see Mandy doing that, can't you? Yeah, I can see it. Like, basically anything garish and tasteless, you're like, yeah, that sure fits. Yeah, true. We also must not forget to bring to the world's attention that Lydia is still stuck in traffic.
00:33:57
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I was about to say, Lydia Watch... She's not turned up. She's not been mentioned. Even, you know, when her brother-in-law is accused of murdering his son, she's she's like, I guess I still live on a verge.
00:34:10
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Yeah, she's just camping out there. or maybe she has, like, the worst breakdown cover who anybody has ever had. Like, we will come and get you, but you do have to commit to being an attempt for at least a fortnight before that.
00:34:25
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Otherwise you have to, like, pay more. I wonder if they'll say anything when she's back. Like, by the way, where were you? or if she'll just, she'll probably just arrive. Like Charles did. Charles just was back in the pub.
00:34:35
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Yeah, for the Dead Children Club. Yeah, that was sweet. i thought Which I quite like that they do acknowledge that because like sometimes in these things, someone, you know, comes back from the dead or, you know, just their son dies or something.
00:34:47
Speaker
And no one's like, oh, that reminds me of when... that person came back from the dead. They're just like, oh gosh, this has never happened before. Yeah, never at all. um Oh yeah, on a theme of, remember when you were saying you saw a little poster about the community garden and you thought that was really nice? Mm-hmm.
00:35:06
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There was a poster up in the cafe next to, is your water bottle empty? Let us refill it for you in capital letters in a sort of Gothic font. Coffee and chat morning. And I thought a coffee and chat morning would be really sweet. And who do you think would go from the village?
00:35:22
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I think Lydia would be there. I mean, Lydia would be running it, yeah. I do fear that Claudette would go and ruin it for everyone. i think she would.
00:35:33
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yes who else might go I think Manpreet would go i think she'd have a lovely time i can see Paddy popping yes and maybe Lewis just to like get to know people I can see him being friendly there yeah Lewis would love it Liam would pop by I think yeah I would love ah Lewis Manpreet friendship actually that would be lovely yeah I think that would be quite sweet I can maybe see Cammy going That's true. If for nothing else, I'm just to like steal people's purses.
00:36:07
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Yeah, he is such an unusual character, but he's just really sweet
Relationships & Positive Storylines
00:36:11
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and really likeable. And then sometimes he just does a bit of stealing. That's a petty larceny. But um i I do love him. He's such a breath of fresh air. I loved, we talked about this offline, but I loved his his little friendship with Vinnie developing and their witty quips. and And I think I liked when he he referred to Vinnie having bought flowers as essentially having done nothing. which yeah Yeah, it was interesting because Vinnie was like, oh, I just picked these flowers.
00:36:39
Speaker
And I know that this is me being petty because I used to do floristry, but I do wonder where he managed to find Lisianthus growing in this country.
00:36:49
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In a verge? In community garden? I don't know. Oh my goodness, so true. In Lewis's loft. Oh, true. um Yeah, and i also thought Gabby was very petty about really not having done anything, but as far as I could tell, Gabby had also done nothing to celebrate their anniversary. Yeah, true. Like, what was she bringing to the table other than going on a spa day?
00:37:13
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Yeah. And are we saying that one year since you kissed is really something to celebrate? I was about to say, ah don't know if either of us are the experts on this. We're both extremely single, so we simply don't know. Well...
00:37:27
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<unk> like What anniversaries are celebrated? I don't think it's usually first kiss. Because presumably they'd also want to celebrate when they first became boyfriend and girlfriend and when they first said I love you. like They're going to do an anniversary like every few weeks. Yeah.
00:37:40
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um If people could put answers on a postcard, that would be lovely. um Would love to get to the bottom of that. Because also I think...
00:37:52
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um Their storyline is quite nice in that it had a bit of peril. You know, will they get the bar ah the banners back up in time? That sort of thing. But mainly, i think it's quite nice because I literally wrote in my notes, please can something nice happen in the village?
00:38:07
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maybe a nice romance or a family who are actually happy because at the moment I don't know if this is just always soaps and i'm not used to it everything is just really sad everyone's ill everyone's getting murdered like it would be really nice just to have a good time a bit of family joy a bit of happiness and I think maybe Gabby and Vinny are giving us that I don't know Yeah, because I think, I mean, particularly British soaps, I think art tend to be quite miserable. But then there's usually like comedy characters. And then every now and then the comedy character will get cancer or something. And that will be like, oh, gosh, even love at all people can have bad things happen.
00:38:41
Speaker
But I'm trying to think, I mean, I guess Mandy is our comedy character now. So um I think Cammy is another one. and Leila was, but, you know, she didn't really do anything in the past year. so had then she died. And then she died, which wasn't super fun.
00:38:54
Speaker
um But I think Emmerdale has traditionally been quite good at like more lighthearted stuff, but you're right, at the moment it does feel quite um quite heavy. But I do, yeah, I think sometimes the problem with the comedy characters is they just don't get to do enough.
00:39:09
Speaker
And i I really want Cammie not to just be sidelined and come in occasionally because I do think he is a great addition to the cast.
Diversity & Police Procedure Critiques
00:39:15
Speaker
Yeah, he is good. um I saw some online drama about how people didn't clap enough for him at the soap awards or something and everyone was like is that because people don't like him or is it because literally nobody knows who is because he literally just joined i suspect that's probably confected outrage or maybe genuine outrage but based on very little i be wrong
00:39:41
Speaker
My final thing I was going to mention, which actually does go back to the Nate storyline, um just, you know full circle, is that, you know, the police phoned all these different removal companies to say, did you send a removal van to Nate Robinson?
00:39:54
Speaker
ah A, like if you're going from Yorkshire to Shetland, presumably a removal van could come from anywhere on that journey. Like, I don't know. Yeah. And B, like, does GDPR apply in these situations? Because if I phoned a removal ban, they wouldn't be able to tell me. But but can the police break GDPR?
00:40:09
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I don't know. you have any trends in GDPR compliance law? I actually do. yeah I'm back. I that's, like, did I just make,
00:40:24
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You laugh so much that an inanimate object sprung to life. It just dislodged everything. Yeah. Amazing. Well, that's quite something. um Yeah, I can ask about that.
00:40:36
Speaker
I would have thought that the police could do a freedom of information request. Oh, does that cover that sort of thing? um I think so. I've done a freedom of information request before asking a company for all of their information about me.
00:40:52
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Oh, wow. I presume if you're the police, you can just ask them for all the information about anyone. Yeah, I don't know, because you wouldn't want laws that say, like, yeah, our normal data protection laws don't apply to the authorities, because then you're just going to end up in horrible police state.
00:41:13
Speaker
And maybe we already are. my go bringing in the controversy you didn't realize this is a conspiracy theory podcast neither did i you know um and yeah here we are and yeah here we are um yeah interesting if you want i i can find out that would be i'm feeling so friendless now like i've not got any friends who could help with anything i think related to so well i know some doctors maybe they could help me so for some of the doctrine that goes on the doctoring yeah
00:41:44
Speaker
for example they could help me with the correct verb yeah that would be nice i also really enjoyed earlier you using manslaughter as a verb he was manslaughtered
00:41:56
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i regret nothing um i will say a common soap thing that comes up is dna tests and i have had a dna test done in my time so if that ever comes up i can go a bit more into depth on yeah and the process of getting of getting dna results yeah that sounds great yeah Shall we do our random name generator,
Vicar Life Realism & Church Structure
00:42:15
Speaker
who we're going to talk about today? yeah So we're going to look at get random name, a footman into random name picker, and we will say what that person does or does not bring to the cast.
00:42:25
Speaker
And the person we've got is, it is Charles, Reverend Charles. Oh, it's nice to have him back. i disagree as in i famously don't think he really performs any of the tasks that a vicar should but he's a nice man i do find him very very boring as a character and it's not the actor's fault although i don't think he's a very good actor either if i can be completely honest but if that's okay to say
00:43:00
Speaker
have But I don't know, I just find he, I guess he doesn't get very much to do, so i haven't really got a chance to to know him very much. But whenever he does come, I just feel like there's sort of a ah void of dullness on screen.
00:43:14
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I think it would be quite good um to have a sort of spotlight on Charles's average week, but actually make it quite um quite true to what a vicar actually does in an average week.
00:43:30
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because I mean a lot of I think I mentioned on here before like my dad it was a vicar before he retired and like a lot of it is meetings or going to visit sick people in hospital um not that much of it is doing what he only seems to time it up for which is like constant weddings in baptism not even baptisms in there but I do remember ages ago then having a baptism where he's like well I can fit you in at two because I've got another one at three it's like you're in a rural community you're doing funerals that is what you're mostly doing so sadly my my last the last parish my was vicar of was rural somerset and it was like non-stop funerals because everyone was a thousand years old yeah and occasional weddings and christenings yeah the vicars i know are largely in large towns or cities so i suppose it is
00:44:16
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It's a different crowd. It's, yeah, a whole different demographic. But they seem to be going to endless sort of conferences, reading loads of theological books, writing like 10 talks a week, running a thousand different meetings. And Charles is just always at the pub.
00:44:33
Speaker
And I mean, good for him. Always at the pub. And then sleeping with any number of his congregation, which I will say probably wouldn't fly. yes i do think like being part of the community is a big particularly royal parish it is a big part like vick is probably would spend a lot of time just in the pub getting to know people um i do not think they would just have random affairs constantly and apparently no sort of moral quandary about that because um doesn't yeah they seem fine with it yeah um i i don't remember him you know dispensing any sort of
00:45:07
Speaker
spiritual advice to anyone or specifically anything that mentions Jesus you know is much it's much he's not like running a bible study or something he's just occasionally popping up from being like well life's hard sometimes like wow yeah that is true yeah what what vickers don't do which is what he often does is wear a dog collar all the time for no reason but that's true of all tv shows vickers are all just always in dog collars yeah true I mean I think some probably do but certainly the vicar in the church I grew up with said he only put it on when he had to visit someone in hospital because you get there quicker
00:45:38
Speaker
and I'm sure that Charles has never been to a deanery synod meeting he wouldn't go near them for Hotton deanery is constantly being like you really must come and also the idea that a vicar would only have one church in a rural area no no he'd have at least five oh yeah of course I know vicars that look after nine yeah which is wild what diocese are they under Oh, I guess Leeds?
00:46:07
Speaker
Yeah. Let's find out who their bishop is. Not every podcast is doing that. Exploring bishops of fictional generies.
00:46:19
Speaker
Benefitters. Yeah. yeah who's in the benefits with Emmerdale. don't know. It's good to look into these things. We have almost certainly lost our entire listenership at this point.
00:46:31
Speaker
Yeah, i think some of the words we use are not common parlance. um I think also, but obviously we saw a little bit of, was it Ethan, his son? He died not long into us watching it. um And i think he had another son at some point. But I guess because he doesn't have any family except for his horrible mother, it's just really like...
00:46:49
Speaker
there's not much for him to do and to be honest I don't know why he's still on the show when they're they're cutting so many people it feels like he's an easy cut to me but yeah I did read i guess you don't want to lose all of the racial diversity in in Emmerdale but Emmerdale does have a history of bringing in black characters and then not giving them anything to do which I hope isn't intentional but it does feel uncomfortable that they are so often the ones who come in around for like a year or two given no storylines and then go That's annoying.
00:47:14
Speaker
I also read something online um of people saying it's very unfortunate that they killed off or sent away so many female cast members and seem to be replacing them entirely with men.
00:47:25
Speaker
it's true it's like when they were killing all the gay men or like axing all the gay men and then replacing them with some more so when we lost Ethan and Nikki and Sunny at the same time literally she was left um yeah so shots fired if anybody from Everdeer team wants to get back to us let us know do we have any huge child stans do let us know at dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com
Farming Elements & Future Podcast Ideas
00:47:52
Speaker
um of course we must not forget the final segment Was there any farming this week?
00:47:59
Speaker
Absolutely not. Well, actually, oh oh in today's episode, um Rona was trying to turn right to pull into the vets and she had to wait for a tractor to go past.
00:48:12
Speaker
Let's all guys So someone out there was farming. but It's very early to be like harvesting. what are they doing with tractors out and about? um obviously you use tractors all the time they like plough only see them on the roads I only see them on the roads around here during harvest um I wonder why but you also have to like plant seeds and plough maybe they don't need to take the hay somewhere else or something you are aware that some farms produce things other than hay
00:48:43
Speaker
not around here they don't okay i genuinely have to leave an extra five minutes to drive to work during harvest because it's the only time that i get stuck behind him on the road sorry to hear that
00:48:56
Speaker
well there we go um so i think we've we've we've gone to a natural end but we are thinking we're going to continue doing the fortnightly regular episodes um but a few people have got in touch to say are you going to do Any classic episodes, you watch those and do things? I thought that'd be quite fun to do little bonus apps now and then.
00:49:15
Speaker
we do look back at classic episodes if they're available on YouTube or wherever. i think most of them are still on ITVX. are they really? yeah For all 60 years? Well, I don't know if they're consistently there, but i certainly watched the first ever episode of Emmerdale, which I will say was completely farming content and very, very boring.
00:49:32
Speaker
um But we could do a review episode of that. And then they didn't have all of them on there, but I think they've got a lot of the old episodes on there. So we might be able to find some key ones. ah good to know so yeah if if there's any that you would particularly like us to watch um that we wouldn't have seen before we might not have a clue what's going on but we have to do little mini episodes or maybe not even mini maybe we'd pad them out who knows um yeah do let us know at yeah dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com if there's any like you have to watch this one and yeah we'd love to do that definitely um how do we end this again
00:50:08
Speaker
we We still haven't got a proper sign-up, so um I guess goodbye. Thank you for being here, and God rest your souls. Everyone.