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#1 - Welcome to Emmerdale (and to Dingle All The Way)
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It's the very first episode of Dingle All The Way! Lizzie and Simon recap some of the highlights and lowlights of recent episodes, as well as just generally making fun of our fave soap.
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Introduction and Podcast Origin
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey and welcome to our brand new Emmerdale based podcast called Dingle All The Way. um My name is Lizzie. I'm Simon. And we both enjoy watching Emmerdale and we've sort of talked about the idea of starting a podcast semi-jokingly.
00:00:16
Speaker
it sort of spiraled didn't it really? It's like is this a good idea? Almost certainly not. But look we're doing it It would appear that we're doing it anyway. Simon want to tell us about your Emmerdale journey?
00:00:27
Speaker
Yeah, I'm aware that there are people out there who've been watching it for like 60 years. um we We were not those people. I watched it. You not the best place for people to be doing this podcast. And it's really good to just say that from the beginning.
00:00:41
Speaker
Right from the offset. If you're listening to this and you're like, I know Emile really well, you should probably be a host of this podcast and we should not. But I've got a little more experience than Lizzie. I watched between circa 2010, 2018. I got out the game. And then about a ago,
00:00:55
Speaker
and then um about a year ago We went to the Emmerdale set and I was back in. i was like, yes, I need this back in my life. I thought it was going to be temporary, but
Connections to Emmerdale
00:01:05
Speaker
I'm fully in. And you know, you can miss six years and no not really, the the main thing that I've missed is any number of children who've appeared in that time that we never catch sight of.
00:01:16
Speaker
But apart from that, you can miss six years and not really be too behind. But Lizzie, how about you? What's your Emmerdale history? Um, I had certainly heard of Emmerdale a year ago. Overqualified, if anything.
00:01:32
Speaker
Mainly because I live in Leeds and I drive along the Kirkstall Road a lot and everyone's like, that's where they film Emmerdale. And you look left and you're like, it does say Emmerdale Studios in enormous letters, but beyond that had taken like not much interest in its existence.
00:01:48
Speaker
Um... And then, yeah Simon came to stay. Was it in sort of, I think it was maybe like exactly a year ago. I think so. Yeah.
00:02:00
Speaker
That's quite sweet that we've done this. Happy anniversary.
Podcast Format and Approach
00:02:03
Speaker
Then that we were going to be starting this podcast. um Yeah, Simon said, I'm not often in the north. I used to watch Emmerdale, would really like to go and see like the Emmerdale village tour.
00:02:14
Speaker
Would you be keen? And I was like, it's something that my friend Simon is interested in, i will of course be interested in it. So said, yeah, like let's do the tour. And then I thought I'll watch like a few episodes so that I at least understand what's going on when we're walking around this random replica village in Yorkshire.
00:02:33
Speaker
um And the rest is history. I actually just have not missed an episode. I don't know why i'm so invested after like coming from literally zero. but it's yeah it's quite fun. And I think maybe um maybe the fact I don't particularly know history of anything will bring fun twist to a this podcast. I can be like asking questions. like Genuinely, I'm not stating questions. but but like and You give us the backstory to this, I'll be like, no, literally...
00:03:01
Speaker
who on earth is that person? There's no illusion here. yeah I'll also say, so my first soap love is Neighbours. I've been watching that since 1998. And it did mean, about back in the day, i did buy both Inside Soap Magazine and All About Soap Magazine, which did not really cover Neighbours very much. So I read everything on that. i'm like, if I'm spending however of much money, I'm reading all the articles, which meant I sort of knew what was going on in Emmerdale,
00:03:31
Speaker
back in the late 90s, early 2000s, even though i i never watched a moment of it. But I was like, but yeah, I'm all over what Marlon's up to. So I've got some legacy knowledge.
00:03:43
Speaker
And this is this is a little tidbit I saved for the inaugural podcast. okay I once went to Dingle, the town, maybe city in Ireland, got a postcard, sent it in to Inside Soap magazine saying, is this where all the Dingles are from?
00:04:00
Speaker
They published it. I got my £10 voucher. No, that's huge. My Dingle history goes way back. It really does. you You're basically a Dingle and I have thought that about you but Wait, what was your £10 voucher for? Could you just spend it on Inside Soap magazine?
00:04:15
Speaker
I now say voucher. I think it was actually cash. It was a £10 voucher for goods and services. Okay, see. Yeah. I love that for you. £10 went a long way back then.
00:04:27
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Presumably this is long time ago. That was circa, let's say, I've used the word circa twice already. um I'm going to say maybe 1999, so £10. That's like five or six inside two.
00:04:42
Speaker
I just threw my ring on the table, which is probably like... In anger, it just in wrath. Yeah. um The fact that you have said circa twice is also probably a good segue into the elephant in the room, which is the...
00:04:55
Speaker
We both have horrible southern accents and I don't think anybody who watches Emmerdale is gonna like us because I am just really sorry. ah can't help where I was born.
00:05:06
Speaker
I have lived in Leeds for 12 years but it seems to have made little to no difference to the way that I speak and it's just good to apologize for the start isn't it? I will say that my grandmother is from Yorkshire So, you know, there's a credential. I don't think that makes any difference. i don't know that that's true. I think I'll be embraced.
00:05:27
Speaker
Formally. Famously, I'm from the north. I'm from Merseyside. and People forget i was born near Liverpool. Yeah, so true. It's very, very easy to forget that.
00:05:39
Speaker
I've done a lifetime's work to forget that. But um we should also say we're not going to recap every episode. This is not a weekly podcast. This is going to be frocks fortnightly whenever we think about it.
00:05:51
Speaker
And we'll cover the big the big moments since we last recorded. Yes. I mean, if you're avidly, every moment you turn off Emma Delby, like, well, the podcast is coming out any second for my daily dose of Dingle.
00:06:03
Speaker
Don't be like that. No. It's going to be when have we got the headspace? Make some silly comments about what's going on. It's not like a we'll fill you in on everything.
00:06:15
Speaker
And there'll be some fun segments along the way. They'll develop. They'll change.
Critique and Observations
00:06:19
Speaker
They'll change. We'll change. You'll probably change. We'll all change. You know what won't change? Emma Delby. Emmerdale is eternal.
00:06:27
Speaker
It's so true. And the idea is we will pick some highlights. They might not be what Emmerdale considers the highlights. It might not be what's in the press bags. It's going to be the things that strike us.
00:06:39
Speaker
E.g. my favourite thing about Emmerdale is the... incredibly aggressive posters in the cafe that they will fill up your water bottle there's like you don't maybe four posters and doesn't it say like for free as if you pay for that aggression i don't know i don't know maybe brenda took those with her when she left i don't know but um just screaming out of the taxi it passes by that she's desperate fill that water bottle That's so nice.
00:07:08
Speaker
Yeah, i just I guess they're just really committed to hydration for the people of Emmerdale, which is nice, especially as I've never seen any of them drink a liquid because it's so obvious that all of the cups and mugs that they're drinking from are in fact empty. It's so true. They're just carrying them like they're weightless.
00:07:27
Speaker
and then like you Maybe that's why the posters are there. Like, no one here is drinking and it's a problem. The severe dehydration in this village. why are you carrying around an empty coffee cup all the time? Like, please, we will fill up your water bottles.
00:07:41
Speaker
Just give us the opportunity. With added slurry now, of course. Oh, so true. Yeah. because that looks Apparently the stream goes directly into their water supply and I don't understand how that works.
00:07:51
Speaker
Um... Yeah, I mean, you would hope there was some sort of filtration system. My friend does my future water, so like maybe I'll just... Future guest. Can we actually ask her next week?
00:08:06
Speaker
Tell us more. us more. What would happen in this situation? that's a gap yeah Were this not a fictional stream? It's a real stream, I assume.
00:08:17
Speaker
okay Before we get on to highlights, we have to talk just the main story, I guess. Who pushed joe And it's a story that looked like it was going to be set up to be a mystery for weeks, maybe be months.
00:08:30
Speaker
Maybe months from now, we would finally have revealed who pushed Joe. ah bit like how infuriatingly long the Nate thing is going on. Of like, I just need that to end, mainly because I'm bored with it.
00:08:44
Speaker
um Yeah, I thought it was going to be played out for a really long time that they were going to like, drop clues of where each person was and make you think like, oh I bet they did it. I bet they did it. But just straight away Dawn being like, no, it was me. And I was like, well, obviously that's not true. yeah you know been that long yeah And then Joe was like, hey, remember when you pushed me? And I was like, that's so boring.
00:09:08
Speaker
And the, I don't know if you caught, we did talk about this in the, the I would say, ill-advised pieces camera that they were plastering across social media and of like eight minute monologues about it.
00:09:19
Speaker
Yeah. Lovingly, lovingly put together and they just concentrated all their efforts on the digital media campaign and forgot to actually make a story. Wait, where, was there more than one? I only saw Dawn's.
00:09:30
Speaker
Every single suspect, all nine of them, had those. Oh, wow. Okay, that's a lot. No, I only saw Dawn's, and maybe that's because my algorithm knows that I think she's gorgeous. Because she looked, I will say, looked fantastic at Lydia's party.
00:09:45
Speaker
The rest of the time, why do they give her very, very dowdy clothes? It's because she's a yeah hard-working mum, and in soaps, that means dowdy clothes. Yeah, true. Although she was wearing a really nice like quilted jacket when, um I think it was when she...
00:10:00
Speaker
Not the day when she went to go to a hospital before that. um But actually, a weirdly specific beef that I do have with Emmerdale is that it's so obvious that all of the clothes they're wearing are brand new.
00:10:15
Speaker
That's true. and They never wear the same thing twice, they? They never the same thing twice. You know when you're wearing like a new T-shirt or something and it's just like a bit too smooth? I don't think it would break the bank. In fact, it would probably do the opposite.
00:10:26
Speaker
them to just like do some laundry for the cast members. And it make it so much more believable. like I don't think Cain Dingle is going wearing new clothes every day. I think he's going to be wearing the same bashed up like sweater until it's got like more holes than fibres left.
00:10:42
Speaker
And there's a you know there's a lot of animals in Emmerdale. And let me tell you, not a single item of my clothes is not covered in cat hair. But have you ever seen an animal animal in Emmerdale? There's famously no farming going on on Emmerdale Farm. They're scary, but we don't know where it's coming from. Yeah, or why.
00:11:01
Speaker
So true, so true. and But apparently every single member of their village can lay their hands on black tie at a moment's notice. So Jay's party entirely... I mean, I don't own black tie, and I regularly invited to black tie things. I'm like, no, I don't own black tie.
00:11:18
Speaker
Regularly rather than frequently, let's say. but How regularly are you invited to a black tie event? Look, I... hate to bring this up so early, but I am an alumnus of Oxford University. I wish I wasn't doing this podcast with you. I wish I was doing with anybody else.
00:11:35
Speaker
And look, I respect that. And I recognise that I'm a hateful person. I think two to three people who will ever listen to this have immediately stopped. and Look, I'm team Lizzie as well. Don't get me wrong. feel like I'm certainly not supporting myself. I hate myself. But but I'm just speaking my truth.
00:11:55
Speaker
No, I love you.
00:11:58
Speaker
But you don't like me. And I reckon it I respect it. But yeah, I don't think that Sam Dingle's got black tie in the back of his cupboard. Like, where's he got that from? Yeah. Wait, no, wasn't there something about, um there was someone who like, couldn't find something to wear, wasn't it Sam?
00:12:14
Speaker
Maybe it was Sam, but everyone else. And then, you know, like, we do have to cover who wasn't at this party, Lydia. Lydia. and I mean, why should she have been?
00:12:26
Speaker
It's not like it was her own birthday party. And it looked, that did seem deliberate, because sometimes you think, oh was that character just ill or something? And they just look like right around it. And it must have been super awkward if they'd organised Lydia's birthday party as a centrepiece, and then be like, oh, actually...
00:12:42
Speaker
she's broken a femur but um I assume she uh did feel deliberate in the script yeah and I wonder whether it was a plot point and that like later down the line she was involved maybe she snuck in and pushed joe out the window or like I mean it doesn't seem like she did but it does seem strange yeah yeah and she i do feel sorry for that obviously the actors take it in turns to like have breaks and not working and maybe they've looked in like the show bible of whose birthday like why why can we have a party we need to have a big party where everyone's getting together what happens at this time of year apparently it's lydia's birthday in may she unfortunately will not be in the episode but we can just make it work yeah let's pop it in
00:13:29
Speaker
I do think she must have got the script to be like, finally a storyline. And be like, no, Lyds, you're not needed. Lydia is one of my favourites. I think I would trust her with my life.
00:13:39
Speaker
She's, I think, the one who I would want to be really good friends with if i lived with her. Yeah, she would be good in a crisis, wouldn't she? Yeah, she's just genuinely like so kind, sometimes misguided in her kindness. But like who isn't?
00:13:52
Speaker
yeah I think I texted you maybe there was one episode where actually just cried about how much I love Lydia Dingle. So I'm sad that she didn't make it to her own birthday party.
00:14:04
Speaker
Although maybe it would have not been a nice time for her because she would have just been like, it's a shame that the police came and that somebody died. Yeah. And it was unusual policing techniques. I'd say that they immediately go to arrest the guy, you know, that I can sort of understand, but just like,
00:14:21
Speaker
bring along with them the person who accused them is that something that always happens when you're just um kids especially about crime i don't think he was brought along i think he was just okay just went separately i think he just he had his own transport okay yeah like i'll meet you there just so i can explain the plot we can go in convoy Because I probably the police would take him aside rather than explaining at length. So we do need somebody else to come and do that.
00:14:45
Speaker
I mean, it's a miracle to me that Noah Dingle even has a driving license because like he doesn't appear to have more than two brain cells. And apparently he said, I can't go back to prison this week. That's certainly something in the lacunae of our ignorance. Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. i was like, when did he go to prison? No idea.
00:15:03
Speaker
idea. Do you want me to do a sneaky Google? No, let's just never know. It's nicer that way.
Storytelling and Anecdotes
00:15:11
Speaker
But I mean, usually people go to prison and women who are about to have maternity leave. You know, there's a lot of people getting one year sentences in Emmerdale. Yeah, so true.
00:15:18
Speaker
Another lovely feature of the evening was Jimmy repeatedly talking about his dad being pushed out window. And I did know that happened long, long before I was watching.
00:15:30
Speaker
And i wait I mean, I've watched enough soap that I should have picked up that that was a foreshadow, but i just thought it was a beeline because they needed Jimmy to bring some light relief to the evening. Yeah, it's kind of funny as well because like he was at Home Farm quite a lot of when Will was still alive.
00:15:48
Speaker
He would hang out they would have discussions and stuff, and then this one time he goes there, he's like, it's so weird being here because my dad was thrown out all the day when he this like you really literally has you caught before I mean, also it was, I mean, i'm guessing here, but like 10, 20 years ago, a long time ago, know, you've been there hundreds and hundreds of times since then.
00:16:14
Speaker
why Why this evening is it suddenly pressing on you? I do love it. I also feel like we should say, given that it's the first episode that like, yeah, we might be sat here slating everything about Emmerdale but we're doing it in love.
00:16:27
Speaker
Oh, 100%. hundred so It's like family. Like we can mock because we love it. But if anybody else wants to be like, get out, that's our like precious, precious child.
00:16:39
Speaker
um Yeah, it's our child. Listen to this and be like, who are these few people that clearly hate emmerdale why are they doing like i love emmerdale i think oh my gosh obsessed and i'm actually quite relieved this story ended quite abruptly because i just don't have it in me to do another long running who pushed joe um another that's something about my private life i suppose so um have you been pushing ned portis around behind the scenes how did it happen Oh, I mean, we must also mention how they started the episode with what was looked like a music video slash soft porn.
00:17:16
Speaker
Oh my goodness. It was like so interesting. The like walking on sunshine sort of montage. Yeah, soft glow. I thought it was a dream sequence. Yeah.
00:17:27
Speaker
I mean... it What felt like a dream sickness was how quickly he's healed from substantial surgery and then being beaten up whilst recovering from substantial surgery. His torso seemed undamaged.
00:17:39
Speaker
It was quite nice, though, when you saw him in hospital um to see him like finally actually looking bad. Because the last like two months, maybe, like characters relentlessly have been like, Joe, you look terrible.
00:17:54
Speaker
He's supposed to be ill, but he just looks fantastic because he's a human being. And you're watching it like, no, he doesn't. He looks great. I know I'm supposed to believe he has kidney disease.
00:18:05
Speaker
He looks great. Yeah. And it's because, you know, if it's a woman, they just don't wear mascara. And then they're like, oh, my gosh, you look like you're a deep grief and or very ill. And that's the shorthand for just grief, no mascara.
00:18:18
Speaker
But what do men do? They're not wearing mascara anyway. It's a quandary. I don't know. i wonder if they could have sort of put some more pallid makeup on him. Because they used a lot of their pallid makeup on Dawn throughout the whole Evan saga. tree Or is that mainly because she's under hospital lighting?
00:18:36
Speaker
we we we can't We can't say. I will say it's almost certainly not filmed in a real hospital. that's Oh, it's not because I met the man who made the Emmerdale Hospital set. Oh, that's right. came to an open studios event that I did and I had told him, I went to the Emmerdale Studios and he was like, oh, I built all those sets.
00:18:55
Speaker
Oh, my word. Starstruck. Starstruck. Starstruck. I can't remember his name or anything about him. If you're listening, do phone in. um So I think maybe, should we go through some of our ah the highlights?
00:19:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. My highlight that what did I write down here? One of my highlights, just i think Emmerdale in general, but a few things that have cropped up over the last few days.
00:19:18
Speaker
um How quickly people just decide to move in or out of houses. They barely know. So true. And note no thought about like ah like tenancy agreements or, you know, giving notice or any of that. Like, first of all, obviously Liam moving out because Amanda was up to something on the sofa.
00:19:40
Speaker
We just didn't know. And I love how you always refer to her as Amanda, which nobody has ever done. I actually am trying to make a conscious decision call her Mandy because don't know why that's in my head that I always call her Amanda. And like, I can just imagine when she was a child, I bet the teacher was like ringing, calling out the register for the class and would say Amanda. She'd be like, oh, no one calls me Amanda. It's Mandy. And here I am. Here you are. Just literally, I don't know where you've got this from, but you're obsessed. Why neither do mandy anyway and then bear being like i guess i'll move out and i was like you've never set foot in that building um and then very quickly manfrey and ryan like have they ever even seen each other surely never interacted i don't imagine she knows his name
00:20:31
Speaker
But it's I'm sure they'll have a lovely time. But yeah, like I am a woman in my 30s who has two housemates and a friendship group, which is like largely single people in our 20s and 30s who live together. And I have a lot of people being like, have you not grown out of that yet?
00:20:49
Speaker
Like, ah do you not just want to like live on your own like a normal person? And I'm like, and I'm actually quite happy with this. But if you knew what was going on in Emmerdale...
00:21:00
Speaker
you would see there's a whole world of like intergenerational weird friendships and like manpreet is a doctor she can surely afford not to just live with some random man that she doesn't know true yeah i did think it was funny with that built a big house in the countryside it's true because i mean must be relatively cheap in emmerdale people she is perhaps about to be struck off and Well, ah that's true. she means Maybe that movie she's just making us some canny financial decisions.
00:21:29
Speaker
um I did think it was funny with Bear when he was like, you've packed all my stuff up, you want to turf me out? and they were like, no, we've just moved to another room as though that were normal. It's like it's also quite weird just to like without consulting him, move all his things.
00:21:42
Speaker
Yeah, actually, one of my friends at university once went back to their uni room and somebody had packed all of their belongings into plastic boxes, like folded neatly.
00:21:53
Speaker
um And it was all still in their uni room. And then there was just and I'm sorry, because i know you're a vegetarian. There was just a raw steak on a plate in the middle of the room and a note written in lipstick that said for when you get home.
00:22:07
Speaker
It was incredibly menacing. Did he ever find out why? um It was indeed a woman. So sorry. No, it didn't. And it was quite terrifying. And she was like, you had to get through two locked doors to get in here. And all her housemates were like quite shaken up by So they were like, this was not up like it was clearly not prank.
00:22:24
Speaker
Anyway, that's quite a dark story. Yeah. Goes to show not a nice thing to do to pack up somebody else's stuff. like the lesson to learn here is that. Yeah, very strange.
00:22:34
Speaker
One of my highlights is similar, actually, the stag do Has Mattie ever spoken to either Aaron or John before? Like, why was Mattie there? Yeah.
00:22:45
Speaker
Just like a random person. And also they go to this paintboarding place that apparently nobody works at. it No one was like assisting them in any way. They just sort of ran around screaming. They must have some sort connection. As in like...
00:22:59
Speaker
Well, Aaron's best friend is adam to to adams obviously the actor Adam Barton. We've not seen in your time, but he's Matty's brother. He doesn't appear to have a best friend right now. Yeah, I mean, obviously, like any Emmerdale relationship, you cut ties instantly as soon as someone moves you know to Houghton. You simply cannot interact with them. Wait, he has a best friend who's just like down the road, but he never sees him? Well, I don't actually know where he lives. But hevi pahe yeah, he went some... Well, actually, I think he might be on the run.
00:23:27
Speaker
That makes more sense of him, you know. Burning down the garage? No, I forget. But
00:23:36
Speaker
but yeah, I think they were just like, we need some random man. Because what a sad little stag do. Literally no one that John knows. i know. And then he had to just like pretend to drink liquid out of a welly. It was so obvious that that was empty. I know that this is the thing that gets to me the most.
00:23:52
Speaker
Would it really mess up your filming that much just to see someone get a bit of liquid down the front because they're drinking out of a welly? That's a question for the ages. Thank you. i am going to Google Adam Dingle. I will say it's Adam Barton.
00:24:08
Speaker
Okay.
00:24:10
Speaker
hey Hate to be a stickler. You might know him from presenting TV shows now. ah really? um i do not, but famously I can't remember anybody's faces. I didn't know, so...
00:24:22
Speaker
see It's such a good point. He was a fun character. He didn't get much to do, but he was mostly there to support Aaron in Aaron's storylines. Oh, when you're on the Emmerdale wiki, it's all incredibly detailed, isn't it? i just want a little headline that's like, why did he leave?
00:24:36
Speaker
a He was married to Victoria for a while, or possibly not married, I figure. um Adam Barton, Emmerdale, why did he leave? This is great content. He stated he wanted to explore new roles.
00:24:48
Speaker
Oh, that's the actor.
00:24:51
Speaker
yeah Who's confusing is also called Adam. He is I will say that is confusing and thoughtless. um He decided to leave the show to take a break for acting and bos participate in I'm a Celebrity.
00:25:03
Speaker
That was both character and actor did that, curiously. Did he go on I'm a Celebrity in character as Adam? He's like, weirdly, I'm just like a farmhand, but somehow...
00:25:15
Speaker
Okay, I literally... I can't find it. Sometimes they do just leave, don't they? Yeah, sure. apparently in 2024, which is when we were watching, Emmadale sees Adam Barton return as Maura Dingle makes big decision. That was on Leeds Live.
00:25:32
Speaker
Oh, I didn't spot that return. Leeds Live just always lies. the final story line, Adam tried to cover for his mum by confessing to the murder of Emma. Did he? Yeah. So, and now they're dredging up Emma. Maybe he will come back.
00:25:46
Speaker
not Not dredging. Speaking of which, apparently they're going to dredge the lake and find Nate's body. That's a spoiler. Finally. Spoiler alerts into this forecast. Oh, yeah, I guess so, yeah. We'll we'll try and avoid too many spoilers, but we all know that Nate's coming out the lake at some point, don't we? Sure. and Speaking of Emma, let's talk about the new character in the woods.
00:26:08
Speaker
but So hard to know why they chose to film that in the woods. Yeah, really weird. And his name is Lewis? Look, I have no idea.
00:26:19
Speaker
he seems very sweet, but completely unconvincing. Are we allowed to critique people's acting on this? I feel mean. I think we're going to critique acting, but not appearance. I think that's how that's our line.
00:26:30
Speaker
Well, he looks lovely, so I don't need He looks lovely. And he's a star of Heartstopper. What earth is that? don't know Heartstopper is. so sorry. Oh my gosh. It's the the Netflix teen rom-com, not really com actually, but it's Rom-Rom.
00:26:47
Speaker
Rom-Rom, Rom-Rom. i Sorry. And I say star, he is maybe like 10th lead, but somehow his agent is very powerful. So he was on Big Brother. He's,
00:26:59
Speaker
like He's done all sorts of things. And now he's in this. And he's playing the first autistic character on Emmerdale, is the the press release. have And I will say, just as a little PSA for anyone listening, if you get some random person you've never met saying, let's let us meet in the woods, it's like maybe take a friend.
00:27:20
Speaker
ah Maybe. I mean, Ross can look after for himself. We know that. But I still think, don't meet a stranger in the woods. To meet you somewhere with GPS coordinates.
00:27:31
Speaker
That, for me personally, would be a red flag. I will say that people have just dropped a pin in Google Maps. That's basically, it gives you like the GPS coordinates. what's that is, complete stranger who's claiming to be your mom?
00:27:45
Speaker
That is actually how I met my parents. And I'll thank you be respectful of that. And that does explain so much of about you as person. I like also that Ross is like, well, I'll never see him again. And we know because it's a soap that he'll move, that this guy will move in with them or possibly Manpreet in the future.
Current Mysteries and Themes
00:28:05
Speaker
That's so true. Oh gosh, what a time. um So did they leave it as like, oh, it's just like too traumatic to know you or something? guess I'm a bit worried about sharing about Emma's madnesses and How much do you know about Emma Barton?
00:28:22
Speaker
um I did some quick Googling, but I didn't retain any of the information. It's Emma Ross's mum. and She is. she killed one of her sons and then Moira killed her.
00:28:33
Speaker
Yeah, she killed her husband. so I think she accidentally killed Finn. She tried to kill Ross when he was a baby. um She started being this sort of caring nurse and then gradually went mad.
00:28:44
Speaker
That happens to so many caring nurses. That's the NHS on its knees for you. She was a very good actress and she was it was quite moving a lot of the time.
00:28:58
Speaker
And yeah, I forget exactly why Moira killed her, but she pushed her off something. Maybe because she found out that Emma had killed her husband? I don't know. It's all about And was that like, a were people like, great, justice has been done because she's a nasty piece of work? Or was it like, gosh, can't believe Moira's done that?
00:29:15
Speaker
um It was more the former. I don't think it's widely known that Moira did it. I think that's just like a select number of people in on this the news. Yeah. okay He doesn't seem too bothered.
00:29:29
Speaker
yeah There was a good episode where she basically miseried her husband, like took him to a cabin and like locked him away. Miseried? As in like the film Misery. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. You were just like making that into the film. What other highlights have you got? um don't think it was a highlight, but it was a point of interest to me.
00:29:51
Speaker
I really like Billy normally. I think he's a bit of a lovable rogue, but he's like one of the few realistic characters on there and that he's just like quite normal, which makes him fairly boring to watch.
00:30:03
Speaker
um so He's not got any major disasters looming, it would seem. um But then he i really lost respect for him when he said to Dawn that like, ah you're still just like on the streets where you've upped your price. so I was like,
00:30:21
Speaker
That savage. Like don't bring up someone's past that they've like spent years trying to get away from and rebuild their life. Don't do that. And I think if I was Dawn and I had him on the one hand doing that and very good looking, very rich Joe Tate on the other hand, being like, I am in love with you.
00:30:39
Speaker
It would be hard to do what you knew was best. So I was like, all credit to Dawn for still being like, no. yeah i i do think and this is where i respect where billy's coming from because it was a great line but not one to say because like sometimes you think well that's very pithy but also deeply offensive so which which way would i fall i don't know yeah i mean obviously dawn should probably be with neither of them and i hope that's what she decides but yeah It probably won't be. It was good writing, actually, in contrast to, you know, when um they say something and you just, you know, for sure what's about to happen.
00:31:16
Speaker
Like when Dawn went to go see Joe um in the hospital um and he was like, I didn't think you come. I literally said out loud, neither did I. And then she said, neither did I. actually said it out loud as well. because it's like So infuriating every single time.
00:31:34
Speaker
Maybe that should be a recurring feature that we do of like, what lines did you have for sure were about to happen? Yeah. and let's And the thing that along those lines, and I saw it with Bear this time when he was storming out, when people are like, no, wait, I can explain.
00:31:48
Speaker
And people just storm off nonetheless. Like if someone said to me, wait, I can explain, unless I was really livid, I'd be like, okay, I'll at least hear what their explanation is. no bear Not fair. Not fair.
00:31:59
Speaker
i Something just popped into my head slash I wrote in my notes, what is that metal thing? Could you say more? I can't even remember after what scene it was, but um some people are like having a conversation and then there's just like a metal like cylindrical thing placed on a table and I was like... Oh, in the pub?
00:32:20
Speaker
I can't remember. ah This is great. Honestly, I don't know what you want me to do with that information. um it's in between the two notes where I've written Billy is savage saying you upped your price and it is such a shame that Noah Dingle is so stupid so it's in in between those two things it just says what is that metaphor thing it's probably the pub well let's keep an eye out for that yeah I feel like they often just like pop visual thing in there that you're meant to know what it's like when um gosh what's her name what's Amy's mum's name
00:32:56
Speaker
Carrie? Yeah. Sorry, that accent was unforgivable. Carrie? That was the worst thing I've ever heard. When she sort of shoved a bit of tissue into a sideboard, rewound that like three times to be like, what earth was that? And then when she got it out and it was, I will say, the most ghastly thing I've ever seen wrapped up in an old napkin and it made a cry and I was like, I know that that's got sentimental value for you.
00:33:19
Speaker
But like, yeah i will Yeah, I will say that um the loss of that was a blessing in ah in in not a particularly thick disguise. Where are those scenes filmed? Is that at Eric's house?
00:33:33
Speaker
when it's like matty carrie eric run oh yes that's eric's house because that's one of the few places where you're inside and you can actually see the outside world so i think they must that must not be a set that must be it's when we were driving into the to the tour for uh it was the like first house you passed on the road down to the main village like a bit out of the main village so wonderful okay so yeah after that but you know then we walked you know we walked down to the sign and then into the village it was before you got to the emmanuel sign okay fair i actually do want to do this tour again i think it'll mean a lot more to me now we'll be celebrities on it next time i'm sure talking of the buildings something that got to me and again will probably mean that anybody who's still listening to this podcast will immediately switch off when i say
00:34:17
Speaker
But Kim um said that Joe had been pushed out of a plate glass window. That's absolutely not true. Plate glass is like for mid-century buildings. Yes, true. and it was I think it was a sash window.
00:34:29
Speaker
mean, the fact that his cover story is that he fell. Like, if you trip, you're not going to smash a full window, including frame, into the ground. And to be honest, even if you're pushed, you'd have to be pushed at such force. That's been a dream for frame to come with you.
00:34:42
Speaker
i am I wonder whether they're setting this up for if they do believe that he fell, which I hope the police officer is starting to see through, that they'll then be like, well, you had drugs in your system, and they'll trace it back to either charity or Noah drugging him.
00:34:55
Speaker
oh was he was he actually drugged in the end i couldn't work out if he'd actually had any of them yeah i think didn't we see him finish the drink and then um the hospital said like oh you had like something in your system because he must also be on these like kidney immunosuppressant drugs so the hospital might be like who's bringing those in for him is dawn sneaking them in I mean, presumably the people who've run the test on his body and are like, you've just had a kidney transplant. read list and Not in your notes that we've got, but you have had. apparently just life I mean, can I not just sort of tell that sort of thing?
00:35:30
Speaker
Yeah, but they might be like, where do you have this done? Like, this is the only hospital in the auction. People are allowed to use private clinics. I don't think that the NHS are like, we have no record of this, so we can't possibly tell that you're on any sort of other drugs.
00:35:45
Speaker
Okay, fine. I'll let that slide. um Something I wanted to highlight, which came up in the slu the slurry story. I'm sorry to have to say slurry story.
00:35:56
Speaker
was Apparently a there's a village WhatsApp group. Yeah, I thought I would love to be involved. Yeah, can you imagine what like, every day it's like, someone's died, someone's having an affair. And there almost must be some poor person who's just like, I bought too many plums, I popped some on the windowsill if anyone would like.
00:36:20
Speaker
I have somehow lost a kidney, if you could like look around for that anyway. So true. It would just be Bernadette being like, we've got a church fate coming up and none of you are pulling your weight. And then would be, I just found out that my dad is actually my granddad.
00:36:37
Speaker
I will say her name is Claudette. Like, I don't want to. like It ends in et. like I can't be expected to retain all of these names. It's so true. I mean, she gets so angry about people not helping at the church thing. And like, that that village...
00:36:53
Speaker
has so few people in it. Yeah, and if none of them are Christians, why should they be helping at your church thing? Like, as somebody who goes to a church, it's sometimes quite hard to get the actual church members to do anything. Why would random people who happen to live near a church get involved in your nativity?
00:37:11
Speaker
And Laurel seems to quite often do it even though she's not a Christian, she just, her dead ah dead old husband was a vicar. it's like Yeah, and she sometimes, I guess, sleeps with the new vicar, which maybe means you have to help with the jumble sale every now and again.
00:37:24
Speaker
And interestingly, they don't have a vicarage. Like speaking again as the son of a vicar, it's, you you know, you live in the vicarage. It's not just whichever random house you're in. And then when so a new vicar moves in, they just pop up somewhere else.
00:37:38
Speaker
So true. Weird. Right, I think we've covered the big things in Evident. I think everyone will agree we've really delved deep and we've covered the big hitters. So we've got a couple final segments. One, each time I'm putting the full cast list into a random name picker and we're going to talk about... Have you actually set that up?
00:37:55
Speaker
ah have I have. I've got it ready to go. That's incredible. going to click and we're going to get a random character and we can talk about what we think they do or maybe do not bring to the show. Our character is...
00:38:07
Speaker
Well, it's Dawn. ah say great. We've covered quite lot of Dawn already. we can talk about it. I think Dawn brings a lot to the show.
00:38:20
Speaker
I am aware that everybody online absolutely loathes her. ah'll see it Because i'm I'm not really part of fan circles online, so I'm not aware of who's liked and who's not. But I do think it's tough, for maybe for an actor, but also but when a character is not part of a family, they can feel a bit of a way from a stray.
00:38:42
Speaker
and I think she does currently a really good job of not feeling like that because you know she's moved into a home farm. She's got this relationship with Kim because she like briefly married her dad. um and i yeah i think she brings quite a lot of heart i think she's obviously got a lot of stories which again if you're not in a part of a family you often get neglected um are those stories the same story over and over again sure of course she's always anxious about the i mean it's good i guess they're not like tidying up a kid having leukemia in like two minutes that should be a running story
00:39:17
Speaker
feel like she's gone through an awful lot in the last year like it's no wonder that she is quite traumatized by like her dad dying her mom that that was a blessing turning up was a blessing he was a dad her mom turned up and then like was really involved and then left and then the billy became like involved legal fighting ring just brief and her youngest child has leukemia Like, I think maybe if I was her, I too may have just fallen in love with Jo Tate just as an outlet. I don't I cannot imagine her doing a comic scene or even really a lighthearted scene.
00:40:03
Speaker
Because even when they were having like light-hearted, flirty moments with Jo, seemed to be overwritten with angst. You can't imagine her just having a ah funny little bit of badinage in the pub.
Nostalgia and Personal Insights
00:40:15
Speaker
She is quite serious. It would be nice to see her having a nice time but some point. Or to have any friends. like so this thing Does she have any friends in the village?
00:40:26
Speaker
Yeah, so true. I mean, presumably she has been flung together with somebody for a coffee at some point, but I can't remember it Because you can, you know, often you do get like Vanessa or Tracy or when she was around Layla, R.A.P. would go and like pick some other random woman and they'd go and like pep them up with their like fun talk. But I if i just try to picture what Vanessa and Dawn having coffee together like. It just seems very awkward to think I can imagine Victoria sort of imprinting on her at some point and deciding that they are friends.
00:40:55
Speaker
that's true that would be very victoria and she'd be like i honestly dim only dimly know who you are but sure yeah but apparently we're spending every waking moment together now i guess their kids probably go to the same nursery or something yeah i mean evan is i think like a year old and the other two are definitely a school but sure sure i mean again who literally no one knows how many children she has or who their parents are Because we barely ever see any of them unless one of them is maybe being hauled into questioning for pushing somebody out of a window. and
00:41:28
Speaker
But yeah, it'd be nice for her to have a bit of like downtime. and was yeah i mean She wasn't invited on the limousine trip, was she? Whenever every other woman approximately age seemed to go on there. Yeah, that was quite strange.
00:41:40
Speaker
But nor was Victoria, actually. Why was Victoria not there? She would have been a better fit. Oh yeah, I guess because they didn't want her to potentially die. Yeah. Well, she also has in the past fallen through ice. so you know, she's... yeah And saw a dead body under there. So that's oh really good. for They can't just completely rehash these things.
00:41:58
Speaker
Yeah. When was that? Like 2008, maybe before I started watching, but yeah. And I can't even remember a dead body was. I read about it. I think I watched it on YouTube in in my endless, like why is Victoria never had a storyline campaign? You are obsessed with Victoria. Yeah. People will learn that I'm like, give Victoria a story. I love Victoria.
00:42:17
Speaker
And she is great. Yeah. um We haven't really talked, to be fair, about this whole John thing, but let's save that for another time. All I want to say on it is that I actually just felt sick with anxiety by the end of the most recent episode by relating so hard to Mac.
00:42:39
Speaker
Oh, really? Because you know when you just feel terrible about something that's happened and you're like, I don't know how this has happened, but I feel so guilty. And then I just felt really outraged because I was like, John has done this to you.
00:42:53
Speaker
And like, and it's not fair. It's actually just not fair. And John's the only one that's really, Mac's the only one that's really like onto John, I think. For no obvious reason, just like... For no obvious reason, just vibes.
00:43:06
Speaker
But yeah like, and I can't, I can't tell whether, um like, John, as a character, is actually insincere about everything, or whether the actor just doesn't show emotions very well.
00:43:18
Speaker
Yeah, it does look like he was briefed to be like distant and mysterious, and he interpreted that as never once showing an emotion. Yeah, like I don't trust him and I don't believe he loves Aaron, and but I don't know whether that's something the characters should be picking up on or not. I don't believe he's gay for a single second.
00:43:36
Speaker
He looks visibly horrified when he has to kiss Aaron. And what people don't bring up for sufficiently often is that Aaron was previously married to his brother. Like I feel like that would come up more often.
00:43:48
Speaker
I think it came up at the start of everyone being like, this is kind of weird. But you would think that it would have become at least funny banter by now. It's true. If everybody would be like, lol, but they're not.
00:44:02
Speaker
Yeah. Anyway, that's and that on Dawn, I guess. so So we've said all we know about the Fletchers. yeah know too And our final segment, we're going to end with this every time, he says.
00:44:17
Speaker
and was there any farming this week? so There was actually so much more for farm content than... Really? We had slurry.
00:44:28
Speaker
We had... Standing by a fence. Yeah, so true. The slurry thing happened while I was eating my lunch and I found that bit Oh, sorry to hear that.
00:44:40
Speaker
Yeah, I exclusively watch this on ITVX rather than like when it's actually broadcast. Sure, of course. Yeah. And yeah, I had just sort of plated up some scrambled eggs, which had so many whole peppercorns in because the grinder exploded. And I couldn't be able to fish all these peppercorns out. And so I was like, sure.
00:44:57
Speaker
And then there was slurry and i was like, I want to eat scrambled eggs even less than normal. Yeah, I watched it whilst I was making meringue. So it was um my... In some ways, I don't know why I think this meringue feels like the opposite of slurry.
00:45:15
Speaker
Yeah, I guess visually. They're quite different. Yeah. Yeah. No, am. No, you go. Because there's something that you will spot, or sorry, I have spotted it, is that usually the thing they talk about when they they need to talk about farming is that the the fence in the top field needs fixing. It's always the fence in the top field. And maybe that's the one that Moira and Ross were leaning against whilst having a little chat. Maybe they're going to fix it.
00:45:40
Speaker
I don't know. Maybe we can finally put a face to the name of the fence in the top field. It's referenced simply so often. Yeah, true. Like, I live with...
00:45:51
Speaker
ah farmer and she is always on the farm and her life revolves around the farm and even like sort of at the weekend she's usually there or if she's not there she's covered in hay and i just don't see that for any of the characters they're always just like i don't fancy working today yeah or just drinking tea in the kitchen animals are dying so But will say that Kane somehow works full-time at the farm and full-time at the garage um without ever seeming to do anything at either plane. Yeah.
00:46:26
Speaker
But I guess he can get away with just wearing blue overalls the entire time, which is true a life choice that I aspire to. He truly has found the careers that don't need a costume change, and that is something can all aspire Yeah.
Conclusion and Audience Engagement
00:46:41
Speaker
Great. Well, we'll look out for more farming content, and we will look out we'll probably back i guess in a fortnight who knows yeah i mean i think we've probably only covered like four or five episodes and we've been doing almost an hour which is terrible if you'd like to get in touch with you know comments or ideas we do actually have an email address i'm sorry to say and it is someone already has dingle all the way at gmail so we're dingle all the way pod at gmail.com Who has Dingle The Way? Should we email them and be like, ah we want to interview you on our podcast. Or do a hostile takeover.
00:47:16
Speaker
but um it dingleallthewaypod at gmail.com. I'm Simon. I'm Lizzie. And we yeah we'd love to hear from you. and we need a sign-off line.
00:47:28
Speaker
um I'm so sorry. There we go.
00:47:32
Speaker
We're just really sorry for what this has turned into. Goodbye. Goodbye.