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Why do medical doctors have the highest suicide rate of all the professions?

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Links to the article and paper:

https://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/01/06/top-11-professions-with-highest-suicide-rates/

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0226361

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High Suicide Rates Among Medical Professionals

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Hi, Christian Jardinov here. Today I want to talk about something that came on my radar last week. It's kind of strange that I didn't exactly know this, but basically I found out that medical doctors have the highest suicide rate of all the professions and some
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I think it was another study where they were saying it was something like 36% or close to 3 times higher the odds of a suicide with a doctor than a person in the general population.
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So this is an article I fished out today on mentalhealthdaily.com. I'll have a couple of links to these articles and papers that I'm reading from. So it's the top 11 professions with highest suicide rates in this article.
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Number one is medical doctors. And here's what it says. Evidence suggests that doctors are approximately 1.87 times as likely to commit suicide than those working other occupations.
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examining all causes of death as a doctor, nearly 4% of all doctor deaths result from suicide. So roughly 1 in 25 doctors' deaths will be from a suicide. And listen to this

Contributing Factors to Medical Professional Suicide Rates

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now. There are many factors that are believed to make doctors more likely to resort to suicide than average, including
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Long hours, demanding patients, malpractice lawsuits, continued education, medical school expenses, and ease of access to medications. So they're saying that basically if a doctor becomes stressed and or deeply depressed,
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The fact that they can easily obtain medication is a contributing factor to the increase in suicides among this profession. That's that article I have in the description that you can read. Now, just as a quick aside before I continue, so medical doctors were number one on the list, then dentists, and then police officers, then veterinarians, and then financial services.
00:02:32
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I just want to, I want to, this is a little bit of a philosophical question. I want to ask the question that maybe you can think about this yourself and it's kind of a rhetorical question per se, but why would medical doctors
00:02:48
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have the highest suicide rate. Think about it like this, right? I work with people in the capacity of a health consultant, health slash health coach, this kind of thing. So I'm a health practitioner, not a doctor, of course. So our methods, our methodology of getting people healthy is very different. The whole philosophy is very different. But this is one of the biggest joys for me is, for example, when a parent tells me
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that her severely constipated child for the last several months.
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took a poop on her own two days or three days in a row without any stress, training, crying or pain or difficulty. When I hear that, it just makes my day. Or other older clients, adults, when they start telling me, I have so much more energy to do this after working with me for a while, I get so much pleasure of helping people get healthier and
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and thriving once again like they used to when they were younger so to work it's such a privilege to work with people in this capacity now medical doctors excuse me they are privileged that you know you get your degree and you go out there and
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People immediately have respect for you. You don't have to prove everything. Your degree shows all the work you've put in and all that effort and knowledge. You must have it. So why would a doctor not have job satisfaction?
00:04:31
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This used to be the most respected profession. These people should be in a state of elation most of the day, most of the time, because they're helping people. I suppose it's a rhetorical question.
00:04:49
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Because I think, I know many of you listening, you're awake people and we know that doctors are not actually helping people. In fact, the caveat that I know lots of good doctors and I've interviewed doctors and lots of amazing functional medicine doctors and stuff like that and doctors that have woken up to the BS. So there's a lot of good people out there, but the majority
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the vast majority of doctors, they're pretty damn brainwashed. Medical school really is a form of trauma-based mind control. And then doing all those really, really long shifts, like 20, 30 hour shifts, night shifts in your residency and all this stuff, that really just, people will reach a breaking point and

The Impact of Compassion Fatigue

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It can really warp your thinking and seeing all the gruesomeness and stuff like that. So they're pretty damn brainwashed. But what is evident is that in spite of all the brainwashing and clearly many of these doctors, they build a tough exterior or they continue drinking the Kool-Aid and all that jazz. So they continue
00:05:58
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prescribing drugs, toxic drugs, not medicine, that's not medicine. The stuff can be called medicine, there's toxic poisons. They keep prescribing them and they just hope, probably in the blind hope that this patient will either leave them alone, go away, spontaneously resolve the issue, or they can fob them off to another specialist.
00:06:23
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even with all the brainwashing and all of this sort of a lot of these they call it what's the article I saw that a lot of physicians are suffering from what's it called compassion fatigue right there was another there's an article in the daily star newspaper that 30 more than 30 percent of general practitioners
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practitioner, doctors suffer from compassion fatigue, which the dude that wrote this blog post that I'm reading from, he said that basically a euphemism for becoming a psychopath where you don't have compassion for the person and their pain and their trouble that they're coming there into your office, right? So 30% or more of doctors basically have no compassion because they're so overworked and they get so little
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satisfaction from what they do because at the end of the day, what are they doing? They're prescribing pedaling toxic drugs on behalf of their, you know, big farmer overlord overlords, right?

Criticism of the Medical System

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So I can see this.
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starts to answer a little bit the question, why are medical doctors' suicide rates the highest of any profession? Because in spite of all the brainwashing, in spite of some of them a third or close to a third becoming, in a sense, psychopathic, where they basically don't feel empathy or compassion for the people and their suffering, I can see why they're seeing no recourse. Imagine
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all your career after being in school for eight years or ten years or whatever, being forced to continue just making people worse and worse and people coming to you, you know this garbage, you're prescribing them for the
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the last however many years or decades, you know, it doesn't do anything at all. It only makes things worse or at the best, it masks the symptoms. And sometimes maybe people just spontaneously, from your point of view, spontaneously resolve their issue, because maybe
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in the background, they went on the internet or some friend of theirs had the same issue and they maybe did some diet and supplementation and toxin reduction and detoxing and that actually helped them to resolve the issue. So this must be, I don't mean to laugh because it must be a horrible, horrible sort of fate to put in so much time and so many of these doctors getting to severe debt
00:09:08
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Going through medical school and so much again Trauma getting through it. It's so difficult if you've ever like seen I used to download these They're like audiobooks on audible and
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They're kind of like revision from medical exams and all the different enzymes and diseases and everything. You have to know so much in such minute detail to pass these exams that it must be a really horrible experience studying all this stuff because there's tens of thousands of different diseases, but when you
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If you take a doctor that has woken up and you have them for a month to three months learning the functional paradigm or basically how to create health in a person not how to diagnose and treat disease.
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and prescribed poison to mask symptoms, but how to take a person and how to identify exactly what that person's metabolic challenges are occurring right now could be gut pathogens, toxic exposure,
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nutrient deficiencies, you know, excesses of certain nutrients, et cetera, et cetera. If you, you can teach this doctor with all the knowledge they already have in a month to three months or sometimes, I'm sure some of these doctors would get it in a weekend if you just present to them diet, supplementation, lab testing, stress reduction, the role of stress in health conditions, disease, et cetera.
00:10:50
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they would very quickly be equipped to make amazing, amazing change happen in the people that they see. And many doctors have gone over to the light side, if you want to call it that. But just to go back to why the majority of doctors are still stuck in this paradigm, just because for many reasons.
00:11:20
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And I strongly believe being brainwashed through you know, however many years close to a decade of medical school is one of those reasons, but um Let me just read another paper that was published. I'll have the link in in the description, but basically So
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This paper conducted a systematic review and meta-analysis on suicide risk among healthcare workers. Here's what they say in the introduction of this paper.
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Suicide risk was increased in certain occupational groups, especially in medical-related professions.

Gender Disparities in Medical Profession

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Physicians and other healthcare workers such as nurses were considered like high-risk group of suicide in different countries, especially for women. Indeed, despite considerably higher risk of suicides in men than women in the general population,
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female doctors have higher suicide rates than men, putatively because of their social family role or a poor status integration within the profession. So what they're saying is women healthcare professionals have a higher chance of suicide probably or it could be because their social family role is a mom
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or a poor status integration within the profession. So because it's dominated by males, imagine a woman committing suicide because she has to be a good mother. Seriously? Are these people? This is the type of brainwashing we're talking about. They will never
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Probably they'll never get published if they say the truth, which is probably these women doctors, especially women doctors, probably women have a higher degree of empathy and compassion. It's more difficult for a woman to become a psychopath like a man. Men, you know, they have this ego, the machismo.
00:13:30
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you know, stiff upper lip, all this BS, you know, so men are, you know, why are men, why do men go to war? Why are more men police officers, soldiers, assassins, you know, surgeons? Why are more men doing
00:13:47
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Horrible Horrible roles in society or horrible jobs shitty jobs this kind of stuff is because men have an ability to kind of shut down this empathetic branch of the psyche I suppose if for want of a better term, right? So this is absolute drivel, right? But anyway, let me just continue so somewhere
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So some specialties, just continuing on from this article, some specialties have been suggested to be particularly at risk of suicides with occupational factors individualized in different medical or surgical specialties, heavy workload and working hours involved in the job, such as long shifts and unpredictable hours with the sleep deprivation associated. Okay. That is a good reason. Okay.
00:14:37
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stress of the situations life and death emergencies so imagine seeing a lot of horrendous stuff in ER and excuse me and uh you know operating on various things and seeing like just i'm sure that a lot of there's a lot of trauma as well associated with with some of these professions like there i'm sure you know for example like an ER surgeon they
00:15:02
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Might be more inclined to commit suicide because of all this horrendous stuff that they see over the years right so it's I'm sure it's not all just because they're not helping people because surgeons and like emergency medicine is amazing. It's amazing like I broke a leg more than 10 years ago at this point.
00:15:20
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it was in my mid-twenties i broke my tibia in my fibula my shin bone in my the tibia behind it and a piece of bones splintered off i saw the x-ray you know later after i had the operation so the doctor that fixed me up like i've never well i've had some pain but most of the pain i've had over the years is due to
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probably because of the metal bolts and plates in my leg and also because I never really did much physical therapy and I don't do enough to mobilize the tissue around. So it's my own fault basically. But what the surgeon did was absolutely phenomenal. Like that piece of bone, he reintegrated it and there's 10 bolts and two plates and it's all like rock solid there. And there's countless stories of
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people just reattaching fingers and limbs and Jesus Christ is just incredible. So emergency medicine is amazing, but this is where the problem of the current medical paradigm, let's pretend there is no grand conspiracy with some pharma overlords wanting to sell drugs.

Limitations of Modern Medicine in Chronic Health

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The way modern medicine evolved to today, it started with the biggest threats at the time, 150 to 200 years ago, was
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death from infection and horrendous injuries from war, falling from a tree, working on the farms, this kind of stuff. So that's how the paradigm evolved. And it never evolved in a world where chronic health problems abound. So people were generally healthy, but you could get an acute infection and just you could die within days or sometimes even
00:17:11
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hours. So we developed antibiotics and we know what happened with antibiotics. It was the goal for too many things. And so now when a doctor is taught when someone comes to you, they seem to treat it like an emergency, alleviate the symptoms, where we know
00:17:34
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When it comes to chronic health problems, just treating the symptoms is the stupidest thing you can do. Because it's like your plant in the garden is wilting, leaves are turning yellow, so you go there with a can of spray paint and you spray paint all the yellow leaves green. That's treating a symptom.
00:17:56
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Whereas the functional medicine paradigm, you're going to check the soil, the pH of the soil. You're going to see when was this plant watered, is the soil too acidic, or maybe it needs nitrogen or phosphorus or some other micronutrients. So there's a number of different things you're going to start doing to make the environment
00:18:20
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That plant is in more conducive to a healthy plant growth so that's kind of similar to what the functional paradigm is you look at the person you do some investigation with lab tests with understanding how the person is living the stresses they have.
00:18:38
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the food they intake. Well, what do they work? Are they exposed to stuff? Are they sleeping well? Are they spending any time in the sun? Are they cooped up behind four walls with fluorescent lighting? So there's a number of different things. And then you would help that person address the things that are making them unwell, basically. And the opposite is the allopathic of just here's a pill for a nail, get out of my office, you know.
00:19:07
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So yeah, so that's another reason. So heavy workload and working hours. Yeah. Okay. I believe it. Stress of the situations, life and death emergencies, easy access to a means of committing suicide. Now I actually cannot, excuse me, I cannot find the, there was four professions that are the highest rate within the medical doctors. So it was, what was it? It was general practitioners. So these are the fourth.
00:19:33
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the four most likely to commit suicide, the four specialties would be, let me say, I'm sorry, just one second, let me find it. So, oh yeah, so this is another paper, suicide among physicians and healthcare workers, a systematic review of meta-analysis. No, it's the same paper, sorry. So they say,
00:19:58
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Um, where the hell was it? I just had it. So some specialties might be at higher risk, such as anesthesiologist. So people that put anesthesia before, you know, before you go under for an operation, psychiatrists.
00:20:18
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General practitioners and general surgeons so I can't really speak much for anesthesiologist or general surgeons although general surgeons you know if you're removing people's gallbladders when they don't need or there's better ways of dealing with the problem or you know if you're if you're just removing things and doing
00:20:39
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augmentations and surgeries that are completely just marketed at people as opposed to actually the emergency life-saving stuff then I'm sure you're gonna get after a while they're gonna get pretty sick of doing that then general practitioners just being a useless for the most part useless you know for example
00:21:09
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Let's say your child is sick. Most of the time, when a small child gets sick, most of the time the best thing to do is nothing.
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So if you take your child to a doctor, and we've done this a couple of times at my wife's wishes when my child was sick a couple of times, they feel like they always have to prescribe something. Even though we went to one good pediatrician,
00:21:41
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she asked about the fever and said okay that's a good fever that's a productive fever she explained what is a good fever basically if you give ibuprofen and the fever goes down that's a good fever but if ibuprofen doesn't reduce the fever that is not a good productive fever so it could be something more serious so but
00:22:06
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For fever, giving ibuprofen is actually stupid because fever is the mechanism of healing. The whole point of the fever is that that is what helps you heal. Now you want to make sure that that fever isn't very high as a parent.
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so you want to kind of monitor your child a little bit without going crazy with it. But most of the time the fever will stay under 40 degrees Celsius or whatever it is in Fahrenheit and you basically do nothing. That is the hardest thing for parents and especially for doctors because they've
00:22:51
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the patient population or we have been conditioned that when you go to the doctor you get something prescribed so the doctor will prescribe at the very least you know paracetamol or ibuprofen or some type of corticosteroid or decongestin or some BS like that so every time we go to the doctor that they give us like a decongestant or some other
00:23:14
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shite and again if it was me i would never have gone in all the two or three situations that we my wife wanted to go and after going two or three times she saw that these these guys are useless with all due respect that that one doctor was really good and we've been to a few
00:23:31
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decent doctors, but like we went to a pediatrician who had some shots of my daughter had some skin related stuff that we were like, I just couldn't figure it out. I wanted to see if we could get through our insurance food sensitivity test.
00:23:47
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And this guy literally, the guy was probably 20 or 30 years older than me. And I had to explain to him what an IgG food sensitivity test is. And then he's like, oh yeah, I know what this is. He thought I was talking about an IgE allergy test. And then he's like, oh, but if you get this IgG test, what are you going to do with it then? So then I had to explain to him what the whole point of testing IgG for IgG antibodies is. So we're talking like someone with probably 40 years of experience or 30 at least.
00:24:17
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And they just they seem to know their own thing and Anything slightly out of it. They they either laugh off or like that's all my specialty I can refer you to another guy. So basically I think I again I don't want to be disrespectful There's a lot of a lot of these most of these people are going in with good intentions But the system is turning them into into minions and
00:24:44
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and to minions that are doing the dirty work of some evil ass people. So I don't mean to disrespect the people, but this profession has become an absolute abomination. These people are supposed to be healing people and helping healing people. At best, they're useless.
00:25:06
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At worst, they're literally in the USA. Eatrogenic causes, which is basically medical wear, doctor cause death and stuff like that. Errors in diagnosis and

Critique of Psychiatry Practices

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whatever. Eatrogenic
00:25:20
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uh uh is the third leading cause of death third leading cause of death is medical errors doctor errors uh cutting off the wrong limb so after cancer and heart disease the the medical profession is the third leading cause of death in the states at least in the states maybe in other places so gps again i can see why there would be a higher risk and then psychiatrists this was very interesting because
00:25:50
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I heard actually a psychiatrist was on the podcast talking about he was using the ketogenic diet for some of his patients with schizophrenia and getting some amazing results with the ketogenic diet and he was saying that I think it was him
00:26:14
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I can remember someone was talking about in psychiatry basically it's a very voodoo type profession so they use a little bit of voodoo to freaking diagnose you with whatever you have be it schizophrenia depression they don't for the most part they don't run any lab tests so they're putting people on these selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors SSRIs like hotcakes without doing any testing
00:26:43
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for neurotransmitter metabolites, which you can test for in urine, for example, and they're pretty prevalent. These tests are easy to get. Probably a lot of insurance doesn't cover them, but you go into them and they're like, oh, you have depression.
00:27:04
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That means you have low serotonin. That means we have to put you on an SSRI. But the thing is, actually, it turns out that from what I understand, the majority of depression, there's high serotonin.
00:27:20
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So these things are no wonder, these things have warnings on the labels that can cause suicidal ideation and a number of other horrendous things when people are put on these things. And that's why they're basically no better than placebo, these SSRIs, right? So absolute garbage, worse than garbage, poison. So I can see why psychiatrists, because they're getting
00:27:50
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and general people that are already in a tough spot, that they're making a lot of these people worse with these disgusting, horrible poisons, right?
00:27:58
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So I can see why that profession, the people that still maintain some sort of humanity and empathy in them could be driven to even taking their own life, which is very, very extreme. Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just trying to sort of bring forward some critical thought here. Why?
00:28:27
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is one of the jobs that, you know, when I was a kid at one point, I thought I might want to be a doctor. I could have been a doctor, you know, I definitely had the mental aptitude to be a lot of these things that require that. But I feel like I'm lucky that I never got into that because
00:28:53
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Again, for God's sake, it's the third leading cause of death is iatrogenic, the medical system in some way, shape or form causing the third leading cause of death in the USA. So this, you know, I feel sorry and I feel empathy and compassion for these folks out there, especially after this COVID
00:29:15
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stuff that happened and actually you know what this kind of reminds me the covid stuff kind of reminds me a lot of general practitioners and pediatricians these guys you know they administer a lot of vaccines
00:29:30
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And I'm sure that a lot of them probably have a lot of remorse for this eventually. At least the ones that can read through all the BS that they're being bombarded with from, again,
00:29:51
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higher places. So the ones that actually decide to look into it for themselves, or they see in their own practice kids, like really not taking well to these, these things. And after the COVID stuff, you know, all those people that were out there administering these things, I'm sure there's a lot of people with, with remorse and all the people that were enforcers, I think a lot of cops and stuff like that. A lot of these people that were enforcing these agendas,
00:30:20
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the ones that, again, still have some humanity left in them and compassion and empathy are definitely feeling some remorse. And I don't know what to tell you. This is kind of just something I wanted to riff on today.

Advocating for Holistic Approaches

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And again, I'll have the links to these papers in this article. But some to think about. What used to be, like the doctor, growing up,
00:30:50
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And we were almost like you look at a doctor like like a shaman or something like you like the village shaman back in the day or the the the medicine woman or the healer and you go there and they're almost like they have a spiritual connection with the plants and nature. This is how you we would view doctors and they're so even now many people revere them still.
00:31:12
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that basically the ones that haven't been heard by the medical system, which at this point is very few people. But you know, this is what in my idealistic vision is like a doctor is someone is like a closer to a healer, you know, like, it's almost like a beautiful vision of you go to someone and they're like, they give you they give you some of their wisdom and say, you know, go go take this this plant concoction and
00:31:41
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drink that and do this and that. They're giving you modalities to do, not just pills to take, but things to do with your diet, with your lifestyle. They might tell you, you have to start doing some Tai Chi and de-stress and understanding the role of stress and all that stuff. Instead of just seven minutes, or you have IBS, nothing I can do about that.
00:32:06
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let's go stick some cameras up your butt hole or you have indigestion or you have acid, let me put you on these PPIs, proton pump inhibitors, and let's also stick some shit down your throat and just look around, maybe I'll stick a finger up your butt while I'm at it, just to complete the trifecta. It's literally, that's how far secret it has become. They're gonna scan you and irradiate you and give you
00:32:35
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all these scans and B.S. And at the end of the day, it's like what you eat doesn't matter what you eat. It's genetic and this horseshit. Anyway, I'm starting to sort of veer off on tangent. So I'm going to wrap it up there. Hope you found this interesting and I'll see you on the next episode.