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Ep. 64: Sausage Polishers & Shop Logic
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In this episode of The Lone Machinists Podcast, we remove 94.6% of a perfectly good piece of aluminium just to prove we can, debate whether a bandsaw is the solution to all of life’s problems (it is), and discover that titanium will happily destroy your patience before your tooling. There’s vacuum workholding wizardry, Ultem experiments, and just enough tolerance talk to keep things dangerously precise, plus a brief but important life lesson: don’t punch people, because court has worse cycle times than your slowest machine. Throw in exploding part-offs, intrusive thoughts about building yet another machine, and a suspicious conversation about “sausage polishers,” and you’ve got an episode that’s equal parts machining brilliance and beautifully engineered chaos.
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Transcript
Introduction and Preview
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Learning Machines Podcast, where it's just you, the work, and your machines. What have you got going on today, Kurt?
00:00:07
Curt
ah This week I will talk about ah fiber lasering titanium, surfacing on the sile, and YouTube is greater than Instagram. How about you? What are going to talk about, Master Jamie?
Workshop Challenges and Solutions
00:00:19
jamie peacock
We're going to talk about changing the bearing and cause lathe, how fusion moved the bounding box and it is annoying to no end um and power off recovery on the LK because we had a power outage today.
00:00:33
Curt
Nice. That is a smattering of some of your topics that are also quite interesting.
00:00:33
jamie peacock
so
00:00:38
Curt
I didn't know if you'd lead with the crazy ones or if you just bury the lead.
00:00:38
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:00:42
jamie peacock
ah thought id I thought I'd be nice and not and give the first 30 seconds of the podcast. ah Let them be tame. So how are you this fine day, Kurt?
00:00:51
Curt
um'm I'm doing good. I'm doing good. and Thanks for moving around our recording schedule because ah yeah I had some engagements when we normally record.
00:00:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:00:56
Curt
So we're recording at a slightly different hour, but I appreciate it.
00:00:59
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, no worries. No, no problem at all. bre Tomorrow night, we normally record on a Monday evening. Danik and I actually going to pick up our membership cards for the Calating Mountaineering Club, I think. I don't know.
00:01:11
Curt
Oh, where are you going?
00:01:12
jamie peacock
Mountaineering Club of South Africa. We haven't got around going to pick the cards up, so we're going to pick them up tomorrow night in our normal recording slot.
00:01:20
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:01:21
Curt
Mountaineering.
00:01:22
jamie peacock
We're going to go walk on a hill. Because, as has been stated before, hiking consists of start walking, stop when you get to the end.
00:01:24
Curt
ah Okay.
00:01:30
Curt
ah
00:01:31
jamie peacock
So, yeah, we were actually meant to go on a two-day hike over this past weekend, well, this weekend.
00:01:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:35
jamie peacock
But Danica's friend who was going to come with us had an engagement, so that's getting pushed out a few weeks.
00:01:41
Curt
Oh, fun.
00:01:42
jamie peacock
idea. Fun times.
00:01:42
Curt
Cool.
00:01:43
jamie peacock
Yes, go walk on a hill. It's not my first choice in hockey. But we do what what our loved ones require.
00:01:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:53
Curt
Fair enough.
00:01:53
jamie peacock
So um
00:01:54
Curt
So what do you want to lead with?
00:01:57
jamie peacock
ah don't know. you have so many nice things.
Titanium Machining Projects
00:02:00
jamie peacock
um Bandsaw question mark.
00:02:05
Curt
So that leads into basically every other topic of mine, but I'll summarize it.
00:02:09
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:02:10
Curt
So ah for this for this fidget I've been working on, I'm using a lot of blanks of titanium. And it's it's big titanium because I can get two-inch titanium rounds cheaper than pretty much anything else. Ideally, i would get a little bit smaller, but they don't the diameter I want is not easily made, hard to get. So anyways, I go two-inch rounds.
00:02:27
Curt
parting a two inch round of titanium on my lathe is totally doable. It's scary. Um, but it's, and yeah, it's a little freaky, um but it cuts just fine.
00:02:32
jamie peacock
was going to say terrifying.
00:02:37
Curt
Uh, like I, I did a bunch of them and just, when you get down to the little nublet, um, I don't have a nice way to hold the bar and I can't pass through two inches. So I have like slugs that I've been parting off, holding in the three jaw and then just like parting discs off.
00:02:51
jamie peacock
have a question.
00:02:52
Curt
You, okay. What's your question?
00:02:54
jamie peacock
Doesn't your part have a hole in the middle of it?
00:02:55
Curt
Now I'm, It... Yes, it does. Yes. what do you What are you getting at with that?
00:03:01
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:03:02
Curt
Just hold it from inside?
00:03:03
jamie peacock
Why don't you drill? No, why don't you drill the hole, and then when you're parting, you don't have to go to such a... You don't have to go to a zero surface feed. Or surface feed.
00:03:11
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:03:12
jamie peacock
And you can part it straight onto a stick that it doesn't go
00:03:13
Curt
Yeah, I mean, like... the Yeah, I mean, that's... It's not really all that bad. Even like parting at the last little bit, it's it's not that heinous. ah the The only thing is it just like it's annoying to hold, and I lose about like, out of the slug, I lose maybe an inch, inch and a half of material because I just can't grab it and then get my parting blade in there.
00:03:35
Curt
and have it secure enough where it doesn't just explode because I've had it explode once and it makes you ruin a perfectly good pair of pants when the like material comes out of the chuck and then like spring sideways and explodes your parting tool and explodes the holder and then explodes your confidence and then then I'm like standing far away and like frightening yes yes yes don't help
00:03:50
jamie peacock
so i have three things to say to that first thing brown pants second thing material prep and third thing dovetail jaws ah Your three-jaw chuck, is it a split jaw or just normal poor people jaws?
00:04:03
Curt
yeah
00:04:08
Curt
It is the cheapest solid jaw unit that came with it. Like I didn't even buy it. So
00:04:12
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, if you're going to do a lot of them, I would suggest just turning a dovetail into the end of them, and into the end of the jaw, and then you do material prep so you can literally hold it on like three millimeters of material and there is no way it's coming out.
00:04:21
Curt
yeah.
00:04:27
Curt
That's a great idea. But I think what I'm going to do instead is just buy a bandsaw and bandsaw all my slugs.
00:04:33
jamie peacock
Speak to Jake if he can automate it for you. Yeah, 100%.
00:04:36
Curt
Yeah, yeah. Because like, I bandsaw titanium all the time.
00:04:38
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:41
Curt
And i'm like, I've had a decent bandsaw that could go slow and have coolant. It would be and basically a non-issue. um I can get them from like, the mill will make me the slugs. I'm just worried.
00:04:52
Curt
Like, if they'll cut them, that's fine. I don't mind if they cut them. But if they're going to like, like forge them into like disc blanks, that concerns me because i need I need like a clean bottom diameter to grab in my op one.
00:05:04
jamie peacock
yes
00:05:06
Curt
So I'm going talk with the mill because the price of getting slugs, like as long as I order like whatever 500 or a thousand slugs, the the it's cheaper to go that way. I just have to make sure that they're bandsawing them. And if they bandsaw them, no issue. I won't worry about it. But they're not bandsawing them, then I'll have to bandsaw them here because I'm not playing that game.
00:05:22
jamie peacock
and uh one question regarding band sawing what if they bounce all skew okay no no just
00:05:26
Curt
It doesn't matter. I'm taking so much off, like and two inches. And yeah the part is like...
00:05:32
jamie peacock
The sorry, the the reason for the question is what if it now sideways in your jaws?
00:05:37
Curt
It doesn't doesn't matter. it could It could be skewed by like five degrees.
00:05:38
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:05:40
Curt
I take like a hundred thou off either side and like a half inch all around.
00:05:44
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:05:45
Curt
So I'm like vaporizing a shit ton of material. So it could be wildly, wildly out of skew and it would be fine.
00:05:51
jamie peacock
Okay, I just thought I would ask that question because I have run into issues where blocks are slightly skewed and then they don't clean up if you're too close to the finish size.
00:06:00
Curt
Yeah, i did they did quote me like a spec, but I mean, hey, like Sawguy, you never trust a Sawguy. So like their spec was well within reasonable range, but I just don't want to i just dont want to order like thousand pounds of titanium and be like, I can't use any of it.
00:06:05
jamie peacock
No.
00:06:09
jamie peacock
Okay. And I s...
00:06:14
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:15
jamie peacock
I assume you've looked at the Tormach AF50+. They're bans.
00:06:15
Curt
so
00:06:20
Curt
I have actually, I think I talked i talked with our fa our favorite Tormach rep. tormma rep
00:06:24
jamie peacock
Oh, yes.
00:06:25
Curt
about it and I was like, hey, how do you guys handle titanium? And he's like, yeah, he's like, we've we've cut it.
00:06:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:30
Curt
We ah i don't know if you've cut a blank that big, but he's like, yeah, it's no issue. i was like, oh, intertesting.
00:06:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:34
Curt
So yeah, we'll see.
00:06:36
jamie peacock
Because so that if you got to cut a whole bunch, that would be the way to go.
00:06:40
Curt
Yeah, absolutely.
00:06:41
jamie peacock
Unfortunately, that saw doubles in price by the time it gets to me.
00:06:41
Curt
Absolutely.
00:06:45
Curt
It probably does for me as well, honestly. It's, yeah.
00:06:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's unfortunate, but okay, no, interesting.
00:06:49
Curt
But
00:06:52
Curt
yeah, we'll see.
00:06:53
jamie peacock
So you have a freight bandsaw with a bigger motor do john.
00:06:58
Curt
I can get a pretty reasonable like Harbor Freight-esque unit with the same paint paint that matches all my other tools because that's, I like that. um And it's, yeah, it's like, i don't know, 2,000 bucks for ah a decent bandsaw with like hydraulic and so I can just kind of let it be because it's going to take a few minutes to get through that so that bar.
00:07:05
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:07:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's not going to be a fast thing to to cut.
00:07:15
Curt
So no, no, like I can let it go, walk away.
00:07:18
jamie peacock
It's not hanging.
00:07:19
Curt
Yeah, come back in five, 10 minutes and yeah.
00:07:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, that's the thing. It's going to cut faster than you're going to mill it, so that's fine.
00:07:26
Curt
Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And so I don't know, I'm floating there. i But it all, it all is this is all hinging on if I can get this thing functioning right, but we'll talk about that in a little bit. ah
00:07:37
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:07:38
Curt
Let's hit one of your topics. ah
00:07:40
jamie peacock
go for it.
00:07:42
Curt
Let's go with 94.6%. That's just wrote down. Mm-hmm.
00:07:49
jamie peacock
Okay, so that actually, i think yeah that that covers two topics.
00:07:49
Curt
<unk>s just but you wrote down
00:07:54
jamie peacock
um ah covers three, three topics and nothing. Sorry, I've got a bunch of things that overlap there. So I sent you a picture for podcast, I can't share it that much around the internet.
00:08:06
jamie peacock
I would be busy making aluminium rings for radar hu sorry radar housings and that specific ring I sent you a picture of there's 94.6% material removal
00:08:19
Curt
That's a lot. That's a lot.
00:08:20
jamie peacock
it's a lot of material removal but yeah that that whole job I made the fixtures think the material arrived last week and then I went through making fixtures programming all the fixtures machining all the fixtures machining the parts very specifically ordering my order of operations to try and keep my tolerances as tight as I could and I managed to hold ah thickness on those down to within 20 microns on a 400 diameter ring like I was pretty happy
00:08:48
Curt
Oh, wow.
00:08:51
Curt
Did you have to... so Do you have to move that part? Or can you access all of it in one go?
00:08:58
jamie peacock
I can, okay, on there, there are five parts. One is a delrin part. It doesn't count. Of the rings, I can hit three of the four from, I can hit the whole perimeter in one go. The one I have to do in two so two positions.
00:09:11
jamie peacock
But we'll get to that one shortly. So this this ring, all the materials are oversized, so it goes in upside down.
00:09:13
Curt
Okay.
00:09:17
jamie peacock
ah deck the ah deck and even amount of the top and the bottom to prevent bowing machine the bottom put some holes in it put some doll holes for when I flip it's chamfer everything flip it over drop it on the dowels which are off-center so it can only go in in one ah orientation like if you put it the other way around you'll see it overhanging the fixture and in theory know there's a problem drop it back in vacuum it down again then I machine all the
00:09:40
Curt
Okay.
00:09:47
jamie peacock
And the one I sent you, machined the middle section out and then I bolt it down. Then I slot the slugs loose. um Then I turn the vacuum off, pull the slugs out and finish machine the perimeters.
00:09:59
jamie peacock
And it's held down with the bolts. um The one that does that I can't hit because it's a 499 diameter and I have 420 millimeters of travel.
00:10:08
jamie peacock
That one I made a fixture for, I pop it in one orientation. That one I only machine from one side. We take half a millimeter off about five millimeter five series and I take half millimeter off the one side. So I face it, put in a bunch of countersunk holes and dull holes.
00:10:23
jamie peacock
I machine the perimeter outside and inside, but obviously i can't hit the whole ball either. I then turn off the vacuum. oh Then when I'm done, I chamfer everything when I'm done, I face it again case it's warped or to take any burs the chamfers.
00:10:37
jamie peacock
unclamp it turn it round it drops onto two of the dial holes that I've just machined to clock it or to locate it and then I machine the other half of it and skip those holes that I've already machined because it's somewhat symmetrical and then that actually blends really well and again that that one was like dead nuts four and a half millimeters but again tolerance on that
00:10:46
Curt
Oh, cool. Okay. That's what was worried about. Yeah.
00:10:58
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:11:01
jamie peacock
Because there's no actual tolerance drawing dimensions, it on the drawing it's between, if it's great if it's sometimes remember if it's greater than one millimeter, it's 0.1.
00:11:14
jamie peacock
If it's greater than 10 millimeters, it's 0.2. And if it's greater than a meter, it's half a millimeter. So I've got a 0.2 tolerance on most of those features. it's like throwing a Vienna down a frickin hallway.
00:11:22
Curt
Okay.
00:11:24
jamie peacock
um
00:11:24
Curt
Yeah, yeah. yeah
00:11:25
jamie peacock
It's hilarious, but obviously, I'm gonna try and hold it as like, even my, my order of operations is being specifically chosen to try and keep it as accurate. Like I'm using my six millimeter end mill that I use for like all my precision bores, because I know that the tool we're comp on that is correct.
00:11:43
jamie peacock
And I'm going to be within 10 microns on my size.
00:11:48
Curt
Right, right, right.
00:11:48
jamie peacock
So first articles are going tomorrow with Danica to work and the guys pick him up from at work because it's halfway between us.
00:11:48
Curt
Okay.
00:11:56
jamie peacock
um So yeah, they pick up first articles and then I'll have the go ahead to carry on with the first nine of every ring. And they're averaging about an hour per ring.
00:12:03
Curt
Nice, that's a lot.
00:12:06
Curt
That's a lot of aluminum.
00:12:08
jamie peacock
It is a hell of a lot.
00:12:08
Curt
i see I see why you bought the sheet. Yeah.
00:12:11
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, the sheets, that's the only way could get 5 Series, was in the sheets. So I bought a little battery-powered circular saw, which sucks ass, and I bought two smaller batteries, so the battery overheats. So the battery
Ultem Washers and Legal Anecdotes
00:12:22
jamie peacock
gets warm and detects a different voltage.
00:12:26
jamie peacock
So then like you'll cut the first so far on the sheet and it's fine. And then you get that far and then that far again and then that far again because the battery, I bought the smaller battery. shouldn't have bought bigger one. so that's this week's problem. Go buy bigger battery and carry on breaking that sheet down.
00:12:42
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's been fun. And then the Delrin parts, I just ran them all off on Saturday because I was set up and everything was dialed in. Because again, there they've got tolerances where it's plus zero minus 0.5 of a mill so i phoned the guy in front and i'm like listen this is the tolerance i'm aiming for the middle where do you actually want this so i just aimed it dead down the middle and machined off all of them slitting sawing them off was going them in the lathe and then just did them in the mill because i was lazy and it's easier to hold tolerances on the mill so i milled those and yeah that was fun but yeah the vacuum work holding has been
00:13:09
Curt
nice.
00:13:16
jamie peacock
Interesting. The way toolpath wants me to machine it is not right. So I take out all the adaptives and go and put in slotting toolpaths for the o-ring grooves, or the chord grooves. But that saved so much time just pushing it to toolpath comes back, and then just strip out the shit I don't need and change odds and ends and machine was machining the fixtures only take about an hour to machine each fixture now I have them.
00:13:40
jamie peacock
And they're on the shelf. So for the next batch, yeah,
00:13:43
Curt
Yeah, the fixture. I see the fixtures looked good. i like I liked all the ring. I liked that you did like the recessed engraving, like a little pocket with the engraving in it so like it doesn't interfere with anything, but you can still read it.
00:13:53
Curt
i thought that was cool. Okay.
00:13:54
jamie peacock
Yes. There's a lot of nice to have. So the one ring is $395.
00:14:01
jamie peacock
remember three ninety five Then there's one that's $370 and one that's $350, I think. So I actually machined a ledge in so that when you put the piece of material, you know you're center enough because the the ledge is bigger than the part. So as long as the material overhangs the ledge, you're good to go.
00:14:20
Curt
Right. Okay. yeah Yeah.
00:14:21
jamie peacock
ah Just trying to make yeah ill try to make my life as easier Make it as idiot-proof as possible.
00:14:22
Curt
That makes sense.
00:14:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:27
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, five different points of vacuum.
00:14:27
Curt
Smart. Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:30
jamie peacock
So five fittings on the bottom, all plumbed together with wire pieces, and then pull to the vacuum pump.
00:14:35
Curt
yeah
00:14:37
jamie peacock
So that yeah those fixtures came out really, really nicely.
00:14:37
Curt
Nice.
00:14:40
jamie peacock
And yeah drop it onto anchor point, onto the harbor, kachunk and they're in. So it super easy to change over as well.
00:14:45
Curt
Beautiful.
00:14:48
jamie peacock
Um, but yeah, there we Managed to three topics in one go.
00:14:48
Curt
Beautiful.
00:14:51
jamie peacock
Well done. Good.
00:14:53
Curt
It sounded like an interesting one. I just i remember seeing the pictures.
00:14:55
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:56
Curt
I'm like, holy smokes. it's like it's It's almost... It would have been sick if you could have bought like pipe of that size. Because like that would save you so much material.
00:15:03
jamie peacock
Yeah. The problem.
00:15:05
Curt
but
00:15:05
jamie peacock
So someone says to me why don't I get them water jetted? And I'm like, then how do I hold them down for what? That's the thing. How do I reliably hold it?
00:15:13
Curt
Yeah, but like even if you get them water-jetted, are they going to just charge you for the ring?
00:15:14
jamie peacock
Like,
00:15:17
Curt
Are they going to charge you for the slug? Because like they're not going to get any...
00:15:19
jamie peacock
They're probably going to charge us a whole piece. Yeah.
00:15:21
Curt
Yeah, they're not going to get you any better like material usage unless they're slicing them from pipe.
00:15:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:26
Curt
Wow.
00:15:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. So, no, it is what it is. Look. It, yeah. It went, it went quite well. That was my Thursday, Friday. Yeah, Thursday and Friday. And I machined all those rings.
00:15:39
jamie peacock
The Wednesday?
00:15:40
Curt
but
00:15:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, I know Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, because Wednesday was also a day of stupidness.
00:15:46
Curt
ah
00:15:46
jamie peacock
So what Elton ports are you turning, Kurt?
00:15:51
Curt
So ah once again, on the fidget, I machined all the the ends from titanium and then I have an ultim core. And I was going to machine a bronze core, but I'm like, you know what? It took me like a while to machine these two titanium pieces. I'm like, let's put it all together because I already have all the parts to use an ultim core and see if it actually works. Like see if all my tolerancing, like tightening all my tolerances by machining it as opposed to printing them with my resin printer, if that fixed my issues.
00:16:16
Curt
And it almost did, except was still getting a little bit of issues.
00:16:17
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:16:19
Curt
So I like immediately got like super disheartened. I was like, oh no, like it's still doing the same things. i'm like, why? And then I just, so I kind of stopped and had some lunch and thought about it for a minute. And I'm like, I'm like, there's, there's no, things that are going on in there where there there's multiple levels of constraint where it's like there's one sliding part that's riding on little dowel pins, but it's also riding on a center bore and it's also riding against a top piece.
00:16:42
Curt
So there's like, there's a ton of constraint points. So i'm like, let's start killing these constraint points. I don't need the center bore. So i like, I turned down the pin and that changed things like wildly for the better.
00:16:49
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:51
Curt
And then the top, I'm like, this is titanium on titanium. Let's try to make a washer. and I'm like, well, I like, what do I have for, like, I had some, um, ah not nylon, but Delrin downstairs.
00:17:02
Curt
i was like, I turned from Delrin. was like, you know what? I'm going to try Ultim. I haven't, like I have some Ultim rod that just haven't played with. so I'm like, I'm going to try turning Ultim, even though it's not the best material for that. was like, i just haven't, I haven't played with it. So ah yeah, I made some super tiny, like 20 thou thin washers out of Ultim.
00:17:17
Curt
It's cool material. it's It's fun to work with.
00:17:19
jamie peacock
It is.
00:17:20
Curt
Yeah, it's like it turns really nicely and it's it's kind of a little bit brittle, but it's like, yeah, I enjoy machining. Anyways, that solved it like perfectly. That made everything glass smooth. So i'm like, I know the fix. um So in the in the production unit, I'm not going to use Altum. i just You don't see it, but I'm and i'm probably going to use like um maybe like black UHMW or some like really high lubricity plastic.
00:17:41
Curt
um Yeah, just to work better for that. Yeah. It's fun playing. I've been meaning to do... I bought a bunch of Ultem to make an Ultem pen, and it just it has sat here for a year. so it was an excuse to be like, I'm going to use this. I'm just going to play with it.
00:17:54
Curt
so
00:17:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, I mean, I'm still carrying my ultimate flak. I say that trying to yeah yeah yeah there's actually in my pocket.
00:17:57
Curt
Oh, yeah?
00:17:59
jamie peacock
I have two of them. One lives on the machine and one lives in the pockets.
00:18:03
Curt
Nice. Yeah.
00:18:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, I would not recommend it.
00:18:05
Curt
I...
00:18:06
jamie peacock
It's too flexible. But yeah, it's gotten better.
00:18:09
Curt
I like the look of the...
00:18:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, so do i I think it looks fucking
00:18:10
Curt
I like the look of the piss plastic. It's like... i never... I never used to, but like it's grown on me. I do like it. It's kind of a cool look, especially mixed with like other shiner metals like titanium or stainless or something. I think it's a cool pairing.
00:18:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's a nice contrast.
00:18:27
Curt
Totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:30
Curt
Yeah, so let's see.
00:18:31
jamie peacock
ah Wow, I misspelled one of those horribly, but it's fine.
00:18:31
Curt
ah
00:18:35
jamie peacock
we I know what it's meant to say.
00:18:37
Curt
hu can we Can we talk about ah don't punch people?
00:18:44
jamie peacock
Sure, we can. so oh well, i know actually
00:18:45
Curt
ah That's not what Jamie had written down, but ah I'm trying to keep it a little bit PG.
00:18:52
jamie peacock
You can put people on this, so it doesn't deserve to be called a people. um So I've mentioned Carl a few times. He listens. Hello, Carl. It's my cousin's fiance.
00:19:03
jamie peacock
And we saw them over the weekend, and his sentencing was this week. So my cousin and my missus were like, hey, please go with Carl to court. so that he's got some support there because it's he's pleading guilty to assault because they need this court case to be over now because this short little dude that he punched is literally just trying to bankrupt him so i went to court on wednesday so wednesday morning i woke up machined a fixture machined apart left it to surface and went to court at 9 30 in the morning we left at 3 30 that afternoon and we sat in the court with the last case to be seen
00:19:38
jamie peacock
He sat, fucking sat, and sat, and was boring as fuck. So don't punch people, because then you get assault charges, and you have to go to fucking court and waste your life away.
00:19:49
jamie peacock
But yeah, he got a first offense, and we were hoping for a suspended sentence. He just got a fine, so it's not even on his, he doesn't have a criminal record.
00:19:59
Curt
Oh.
00:20:00
jamie peacock
Also, it did not affect his ability to have a firearm, because if you are assault if you have an assault, case against you and you're convicted, you lose the ability to have the firearm in South Africa.
00:20:12
jamie peacock
um The judge was quite lean. He's like, nah, you clearly tempers were flared. You just had a car accident because they gave the whole spiel. He had had a car accident and the guy who caused it wasn't didn't even get his car damaged.
00:20:25
jamie peacock
Cole swerved to avoid him. And yeah, he was he was riling Carl up and Carl's trying to deal with the situation. He's like, just please go away. I'm trying to deal with this. And eventually just turned around and headbutted him.
00:20:37
jamie peacock
Um, and then the guy took the blood from his nose and wiped on Carl's face. So Carl beat him into the ground. Unfortunately, the guy's dash cam was caught all of this. Um, but the guy was literally looking for, for an incident.
00:20:49
jamie peacock
Um, anyway, that's now all behind Carl. And, uh, Yeah, moral the story, don't go to don't get caught hitting somebody because then you have to to court and court sucks.
00:21:00
jamie peacock
So just make sure that they disappear.
00:21:03
jamie peacock
That is the gist of it.
00:21:06
Curt
Fair. Well, I don't condone violence, but in this case, sounded like the guy deserved a punch.
00:21:07
jamie peacock
Do the job properly.
00:21:12
jamie peacock
I mean, not the first time he's been hit bused hit by somebody because, yeah, anyway, he had yeah had literally caused the accidents.
00:21:13
Curt
Or a few. Yeah.
00:21:18
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, was just riling Carl up and eventually called snaps. But anyway, that's now behind him. And, yeah, earlier in the week, I got to visit Carl because we were there on the Saturday and we're tired of peopling.
00:21:35
jamie peacock
So we went to play with his lathe and try and sort it I think I spoke about this on the Monday. Yes, spoke about this
Lathe Bearings and Lasering Projects
00:21:40
jamie peacock
last week.
00:21:40
Curt
Yeah, you did.
00:21:41
jamie peacock
We swapped his bearings and the machine is now silent for one.
00:21:41
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:21:47
jamie peacock
And yeah, it it runs really, really nicely. That bearing was freaking expensive. But yeah, he's done a whole bunch of stuff since then. And yeah, run he can leave it to run and go sit inside because he cannot hear if there's a problem.
00:21:59
jamie peacock
Whereas before you could see it over with the bearing screeching.
00:22:00
Curt
Nice.
00:22:02
jamie peacock
So yeah, wewa up yeah we swapped out his bearing and the service finish he's getting is freaking amazing now.
00:22:03
Curt
Oh, no.
00:22:09
Curt
Oh, cool. That's good. That's awesome.
00:22:11
jamie peacock
so at least yeah at least he's up and running again because that was uh yeah it was a bit weird the surface finish he was getting but very explainable after you see the state of bearing
00:22:15
Curt
That's awesome. Oops.
00:22:22
Curt
No, yeah, like i like I said last week, that bearing looked like it ah looked like you made it with a chisel.
00:22:25
jamie peacock
yeah
00:22:26
Curt
like Or the the race, I mean. Yeah, it was ragged.
00:22:28
jamie peacock
yeah the race was shot yeah but yeah he's now running he's running well i've actually got uh i'm gonna make a note for the after show
00:22:30
Curt
Yeah. Oh, man.
00:22:38
jamie peacock
coolant nozzle names. So I made them some coolant nozzle magnetic brackets and I have some names for them. But we'll save that for after show because that is definitely not safe for general consumption.
00:22:47
Curt
ah yeah
00:22:53
Curt
this already.
00:22:54
jamie peacock
So um what titanium were you fabric?
00:22:58
Curt
ah So for this, ah once again, for the little fiber layers that sits beside me here, was a brand deal. had to do some lasering. So i I lasered this bronze little coin and that came out really well.
00:23:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:10
Curt
um ah I was going to, and but like part of my little contract with them is I'm going to do a bunch of titanium work because that's, that's my world. um So I have bunch of titanium slugs that started lasering. And like, I talked to a ton of people that laser titanium, like in a production sense. And they're like, Oh, it's so annoying to like fiber laser. Like it's hard to get any kind of deep cut on It's like, yeah, of course it is. Cause it's like, it doesn't want to be ablated.
00:23:31
Curt
It's horrible with heat transfer, but like, basically using like similar settings to what I used on this bronze. um I was able to get decent. Like it's not, this is probably two millimeters deep of like ah engraving work.
00:23:43
Curt
I was probably only able to go about a millimeter deep in the same time span with the same amount of power.
00:23:46
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Forever. Yeah.
00:23:48
Curt
which works. um But it's like, it's so crisp. Like everything is so crisp because like the material just doesn't, like it doesn't melt as easy as like bronze and brass. you get like really nice clean edges. I like fibering it. It's like, I don't know. I didn't have any qualms about it but besides it taking way longer with way more power. Yeah. um Yeah. It came out super nice. Anyways, I have a whole video that I'm ton of clips that I have to edit together and get that approved and get that posted. So that'll be a YouTube video very shortly. Actually, probably the next one that comes out.
00:24:17
Curt
But yeah, i had him at a ton. When I was doing all this ah fidget stuff, I just had it in the fibering in the background because it takes hours and hours and hours and hours and hours.
00:24:18
jamie peacock
yeah
00:24:23
jamie peacock
yeah i've got to do a brand this week a brass branding iron on the laser yeah works pretty well
00:24:25
Curt
so But yeah, it came out really well. and it's
00:24:31
Curt
Oh, nice. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I like lasering the titanium because it smells like sparklers. Like lasering everything else kind of smells whatever, but lasering titanium, it looks like a sparkler because titanium is so bright. And yeah, I was like, I had the door open for a second. was like, ooh, it smells like sparklers. It smells like my youth.
00:24:48
jamie peacock
I have 4mm titanium somewhere, way I might just make this brand out of titanium for shits and giggles.
00:24:54
Curt
Yeah, you like budget like tens of hours of vibring then.
00:24:57
jamie peacock
Then not, then going to do out of brass, because that'll only take like an hour. I'm
00:25:01
Curt
Yeah, it'd probably take you like 20 in titanium.
00:25:03
jamie peacock
going tie up, especially with 20 watt laser, because potato laser.
00:25:07
Curt
Mm hmm.
00:25:09
jamie peacock
But I do like the potato laser, I've got my settings for PETG fucking dialed now, for lasering PETG.
00:25:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:14
Curt
Oh yeah. Okay. Okay.
00:25:15
jamie peacock
like really really dialed I was I did my tool tool tag holders and then I'm going to be doing calls coolant nozzles for
00:25:24
Curt
Oh, cool. Just like to throw branding on the coolant nozzles in there.
00:25:28
jamie peacock
sure branding naming them fun branding ah yeah I use them for my tool tags as well I use the fiber laser so I print ptg tool tags and then I just throw them in the fiber and then with the tool number
00:25:29
Curt
Or yeah, yeah. Okay. Fun branding. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:36
Curt
okay.
00:25:43
Curt
Nice. Nice. Yeah.
00:25:45
jamie peacock
um yeah making me curious but okay before we get too far in we're gonna try and make up over the next two weeks for last week where we didn't read the patrons right till the end so yes the patreons make the wheels on the train go round and round the patreons get access to the after show where we're gonna discuss cole's cool and nozzle names today among other things probably
00:25:46
Curt
I got a.
00:25:56
Curt
Ah, yes.
00:26:10
jamie peacock
They also get access to the Q&As when we ever post those and some other stuff, which I'm not exactly sure what has been promised. I need to harass my wife about that. But the top tier Patreons, they all get a shout out every episode. And the list has grown this week.
00:26:26
jamie peacock
um Yes, so special shout out to all our top tiers, including Jade from Benchmark20, Luke from Fabtastic, AJ from Subtract Manufacturing, and 36 other companies. Jason S, EJ from Nocturnal Welding, The Aussie Machinist, Christian Olson, Charles Watt, Carl from Cursed Machine, Matt from Offworld here, Alex B, and John from 2SM Performance and Engine Tricks.
00:26:51
jamie peacock
you guys all make yeah make the the imts as possible and uh yeah you guys are not the reason where that imts is going to be what it is uh we'll blame that on a big cheeto
00:26:51
Curt
thanks.
Tech Setup and Workshop Humor
00:27:04
jamie peacock
but yeah thank you to thank you to all the patreons and uh yeah enjoy the rest of the show back to being serious kurt not making train jokes train joke know right
00:27:04
Curt
this
00:27:10
Curt
yeah yeah thank you all this is this is always fun I like train jokes I was was watching a bunch of train videos yeah
00:27:18
jamie peacock
There's a train topic coming up shortly. We'll see when you pick it.
00:27:21
Curt
perfect now I'm just gonna hunt it down anyways
00:27:22
jamie peacock
Yes. um ah
00:27:26
Curt
ah
00:27:27
jamie peacock
um
00:27:29
Curt
let me see I'll pick
00:27:29
jamie peacock
Oh, actually, wait, I heard a thing. um shit I can't remember where I heard it. Someone made a machine monitoring thing with a Raspberry Pi in like an hour using Claude. I tried to log into Claude today, but it wants to send me SMS verification and SMSs on my phone are not friends.
00:27:43
Curt
OK. Oh,
00:27:45
jamie peacock
So I'm going try again tomorrow. And I think I'm going to try force it to look on the network for the Siemens machine and see what information I can get out and then try to get it to make a home assistant plugin.
00:27:54
Curt
OK. Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:27:59
jamie peacock
So just have it, our home assistant entity that just tells you what the cycle time is and all that shit.
00:28:00
Curt
Interesting.
00:28:05
jamie peacock
So yeah, we'll see.
00:28:07
Curt
Interesting. Yeah, let me know how that goes.
00:28:08
jamie peacock
I think that could be that could be very, very, very if fucking cool.
00:28:13
Curt
Hmm.
00:28:14
jamie peacock
Because as far as I understand it, Siemens is shitting all that stuff out over the network anyway.
00:28:14
Curt
Yeah. i've
00:28:17
jamie peacock
All you have to do is ask for it.
00:28:20
Curt
Interesting.
00:28:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:21
Curt
Interesting. Hmm. Cool.
00:28:23
jamie peacock
So I think that might be...
00:28:23
Curt
Okay. Yeah. Let me, let me know how that pans out.
00:28:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, i don't want to get myself into a position where I'm having to support it, but yeah, I think it could be interesting.
00:28:32
Curt
All right. I'm going to pick your topic of, I'm going to say it exactly how you wrote it. Ali express le pressure. Okay.
00:28:42
jamie peacock
Yes. So, after last week's episode, Kurt and I were chatting, and I sent him a link for a Polish sausage polisher.
00:28:51
Curt
Oh, yeah, the sausage polisher. Yeah, yeah, Okay.
00:28:53
jamie peacock
Yes, the sausage polisher.
00:28:54
Curt
Okay.
00:28:55
jamie peacock
So now, we everyone, we need to pressure Kurt into buying a sausage polisher. did you Did you have a closer look at any more of those?
00:29:00
Curt
I don't know. I don't have to buy... so ah Sausage polishers? and I mean...
00:29:05
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:29:05
Curt
don't even make that joke.
00:29:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:08
Curt
um Yeah, I did. i was going to say, I'm married now i don't have to pay for that anymore. but um ah oh I did look on... ah So the one were talking about, ah the one that Kaylee's Cans is using to basically just take...
00:29:18
jamie peacock
Yeah, this is quite big.
00:29:22
Curt
Yeah, take the mill finish off of titanium.
00:29:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:24
Curt
ah I thought it'd be like five, 10 grand and it's like 3,000 bucks, like Canadian shipped to my door, which is insanely inexpensive.
00:29:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:31
Curt
So yeah, I i definitely perused a little bit. um They have smaller ones and bigger ones and like tabletop ones. And I was like, interesting. So yeah,
00:29:38
jamie peacock
Well, for your size parts, a tabletop one would be perfect.
00:29:39
Curt
yeah
00:29:42
Curt
absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
00:29:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, I mean, you're making pens, not cans.
00:29:43
Curt
And I would.
00:29:47
Curt
Right, exactly. Yeah, so it's, it's, um yeah, it's on my, it's on my radar for sure.
00:29:52
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:29:52
Curt
I have a lot of things on my radar.
00:29:52
jamie peacock
Okay, everyone. bit
00:29:53
Curt
That's a problem. but
00:29:54
jamie peacock
I know. Don't worry. I had intrusive thoughts this morning um about a project that I shouldn't be doing that I might do.
00:30:03
Curt
Oh, okay. Well, this is this is the safe a safe place to share.
00:30:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:07
Curt
so all
00:30:08
jamie peacock
Yeah. I'm kind of going down the high rigidity router route again.
Router Design and Toolpath Strategies
00:30:17
Curt
okay.
00:30:17
Curt
That's a fun topic. Yeah, I'll bite.
00:30:19
jamie peacock
It is...
00:30:20
Curt
bite
00:30:20
jamie peacock
so yeah there there are a few design constraints that i have to take into account the main one being that the lk's travel is travelers for 420 by 700.
00:30:31
jamie peacock
so make a casting it just machine my linear card seats on the machine
00:30:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:30:37
Curt
So would you make a router that's bigger than than your, ah like, what purpose would it serve then?
00:30:40
jamie peacock
no so my ah There's a couple jobs I can shove on to it if I can make it like 300 bar 300 by 300 travels or 300 by like 250 travels.
00:30:50
jamie peacock
So so there's a couple jobs that I can shift over and then I can get rid of the slow.
00:30:51
Curt
Okay.
00:30:57
jamie peacock
So the slow runs like one two jobs.
00:30:57
Curt
Okay.
00:31:00
jamie peacock
That's it currently. And I could put that on to the router of justice, along with a few other things and I like building machines.
00:31:08
Curt
No, yeah, it's 100% that. It's cool if you actually have a little bit of a use case for as well.
00:31:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've got a use case for it.
00:31:13
Curt
well
00:31:13
jamie peacock
Like there's a job, it's a recurring job. It comes around five or six times a year um that I run on the LK, but it ties up the LK for an entire like day and a half.
00:31:25
jamie peacock
So I could put it onto this machine have the LK do other work.
00:31:25
Curt
Hmm.
00:31:27
jamie peacock
Not that I'm at that limited capacity, but I don't know, I like machines and i kind of want to build freaking router. I saw a machine this morning, five axis router, and i'm like,
00:31:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:31:40
jamie peacock
or five axis mill. I kind of want one. But I know by the time you cost it out, it's just going to be fucking astronomical. So I was thinking three axis router, maybe a fourth axis, a bed of anchor points that I can just drop fixtures onto.
00:31:49
Curt
Yeah.
00:31:56
jamie peacock
Like vacuum chak-chunk or existing fixtures, whatever, that I can just drop them onto it.
00:31:56
Curt
Yeah. Fair, fair.
00:32:04
jamie peacock
But yeah, I don't know. We'll see. It's probably not going to happen because I'm a responsible adult some days.
00:32:10
Curt
ah oh Yeah, i i feel
00:32:12
jamie peacock
Not many of them, but some of them.
00:32:15
Curt
I feel the draw. i like Same thing, I just like building machines.
00:32:16
jamie peacock
yeah
00:32:18
Curt
Instead of watching TV, I would rather just build a machine. like i would
00:32:21
jamie peacock
Yeah. 100%.
00:32:22
Curt
like you know just Whatever your pastime is, if you go home and you like to build puzzles, like i I go home and i want to just I want to play with building machines.
00:32:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:30
Curt
That's interesting. Fair, yeah.
00:32:31
jamie peacock
Well, the lemon tart is looking nice, but don't like the whole moving gantry situation, the way they've got it set up.
00:32:38
Curt
fair yeah
00:32:39
jamie peacock
I'm still going to move in gantry, but my gantry will be very short coupled. So it'll be like a, what's a brand now? Homeless style. So you've got that in your gantry sits up here on the linear guards all up high and the spindle drops in.
00:32:56
Curt
Okay, yeah,
00:32:56
jamie peacock
Trying to think who else does a machine like that. job Yeah, that that's what I had in mind. But yeah, we'll see.
00:33:01
Curt
yeah, yeah.
00:33:02
jamie peacock
One day when big. It's, yeah, jamie being Jamie looking at things you shouldn't look at online.
00:33:05
Curt
Cool. Yeah.
00:33:09
jamie peacock
because I was looking at spindles
00:33:09
Curt
Yeah, but at this... At the same time, like if you're if you're in a position in life where like you can take care of your like your major needs and like things that keep you alive and your family happy and like everything going and like and then you you push off all these like fun projects to the point be like, I'll do that.
00:33:18
jamie peacock
the spindles.
00:33:25
Curt
I'll do it later. I'll do that later. i'll do Like one day later is going to be there and you're going to be old and you're not going to want to do it.
00:33:28
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:31
Curt
Like.
00:33:32
jamie peacock
So this this machine could offload some of the diesel, well, most of the diesel sensor parts could get offloaded, so there's no reason for those to be in the LK. it's light milling light drilling just move it on to a machine with 24,000 rpm spindle or 30,000 rpm spindle and let it go ham.
00:33:40
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:48
jamie peacock
um
00:33:49
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:49
jamie peacock
That's some of the other stuff like there's a lot of odds and ends I could offload if I had a machine that I could trust to do it that had an ATC because I don't want to manually change tools ever.
00:33:56
Curt
Right. Right.
00:34:00
Curt
Fair.
00:34:00
jamie peacock
So yeah that was the that was the thought.
00:34:01
Curt
Yeah. Right.
00:34:03
jamie peacock
It would be an envelope of like 300 by 300. But the travel would be significant. So I can go have the tool changer up and above the work envelope. So it would go up, back, grab a tool, come back into the envelope and machine.
00:34:13
Curt
Right.
00:34:16
jamie peacock
But getting that all configured, don't know how much of a bore like that would be.
00:34:21
Curt
Yeah, yeah, no, fair.
00:34:22
jamie peacock
Yeah. So, I don't know. It's ah it's a thought. It might get drawn out again at some point. And then see how I feel off that.
00:34:29
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:31
jamie peacock
Because I do want to at least go with 10 pitch ball screws so that I can go fuck fast. 30 meter a minute rapids. Let's not fuck around. And even that's not that fast.
00:34:41
Curt
I find... I find that's a little bit of a hack to like, sometimes if I have something like that, I'm really, really like itching to do all, I'll, I'll design it. Like I'll spend the time designing it in CAD.
00:34:53
Curt
And sometimes that scratches the itch enough to be like, don't know actually really want to build this. And it's just like, it's kind of a low impact way to do it.
00:34:59
jamie peacock
my yeah my six versions of the router i've already designed are that yeah and i've been down this road many times went down this road before i bought the lk um instead of buying lk well when i decided i needed another spindle it was okay what am i gonna do is it worth building a machine or buying a machine or whatever the lk was way more than i planned on spending but is way more of a machine than i would have ever built
00:35:06
Curt
Oh shit. Okay. So you're deep in this already. Yeah.
00:35:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:27
jamie peacock
So, like this this machine would be to offload some of the stupid tasks, like milling extruded aluminum profiles and shit.
00:35:35
Curt
Totally. Yeah, totally. I get that.
00:35:36
jamie peacock
Yeah. But it's a deep rabbit hole because I'd want to go EtherCAT servos so that I have absolute position. So it repeats exactly. There's no homing. It knows where it fucking is. So I set my anchor points offset once and I don't have to come back to it.
00:35:51
Curt
Yeah, I can see this getting spendy.
00:35:52
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
00:35:53
Curt
yeah
00:35:55
jamie peacock
Yeah. It would get quite spendy. But also... If the work's good, there's budget to spend on infrastructure rather than give it to the government.
00:36:05
Curt
So that's a really fancy way to say that.
00:36:10
jamie peacock
It is, but no, that's the thing. I'd rather fucking buy another machine than give it to the government.
00:36:16
Curt
but Yeah, I get that. I get that. yeah but
00:36:19
jamie peacock
But I think the Zappos 650 is the next thing in the queue.
00:36:21
Curt
Infrastructure.
00:36:24
Curt
Oh, yeah, okay.
00:36:24
jamie peacock
But we will see.
00:36:25
Curt
it's a bigger but Yeah, fair.
00:36:26
jamie peacock
another mill like mine, slightly smaller, actually 650 instead of 710.
00:36:29
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:32
jamie peacock
That would be the next logical step, rather than building a fucking router.
00:36:36
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:37
jamie peacock
So, so tell me about surfacing on the south.
00:36:37
Curt
No, I get it.
00:36:41
Curt
Okay, so ah once again, fidget, I wanted to build titanium ends. ah So I put those blanks, made a little soft jaws for them, and ah and started doing some just like, like I have so much titanium, excuse me, titanium feeds and speeds that ah I'm pretty confident in a lot of it.
00:36:56
Curt
And I was like, I've never done some like a lot of surfacing on this aisle. So I ran it all through CAD, spent a bunch of time on the CAD side of it And I was like, this should produce a pretty good result. ah And then also huge ah benefit that I didn't even realize for having like a good PC, like running like tool pass simulation is like instantaneous. Like all these surfacing tool paths, like simulate. And just like, I can crank the speed and like it never jitters. It never stutters. I'm like, oh, this is nice.
00:37:23
jamie peacock
Well, thanks, Kurt. Now I need another computer.
00:37:24
Curt
Anyways. Dude, sorry. Especially, yeah yeah yeah, with RAM, that helps too. It's not like it's expensive these days. um But I just, I didn't, yeah, exactly.
00:37:32
jamie peacock
No, it's cheap. You just sell it. Keep
00:37:35
Curt
I didn't realize how much time, like, I would be like, oh I'm just going to wait for this toolpath to calculate. It's like, now that doesn't exist. It's like, post, doom.
00:37:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:37:41
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:37:41
Curt
It's like, okay, simulate.
00:37:42
Curt
And just goes. You're like, ooh. And then, like, dragging through the simulation, like, you're you're not waiting for the stock to regenerate up to your point. And, like, I'm like this is nice. um
00:37:52
jamie peacock
that was good
00:37:53
Curt
Besides the point, put the parts in the machine, ran it, um hand on the over feed override because like once again i i program semi-annually so i'm when i'm running new programs i'm pretty like i'm pretty nervous and uh yeah ran beautifully uh parts came out ran both parts and like i was super impressed with the surfacing off the style like it's really clean i'll post some there's probably pictures on my instagram there's instagram story pictures but there will be pictures coming out um i basically want this product to be able to come off the
00:38:16
jamie peacock
yeah
00:38:19
jamie peacock
I'm assuming cycle 832. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:22
Curt
Oh, 100% smoothing cycles. Yeah, 100%. I want this part to come off the machine and like have no hand finishing because every other fucking product I make takes so much hand finishing.
00:38:33
Curt
This one I want to like be able to sell the mill finished product. And yeah, I'm super happy with how they look. they're Really, really clean looking.
00:38:39
jamie peacock
What toolpaths did you use for the tapered sections there?
00:38:45
Curt
I did a... So for people don't know, it kind of looks like a top of a flying saucer. So I i like basically kind of like waterline roughed it.
00:38:51
jamie peacock
or the bottom.
00:38:53
Curt
Or the bottom. Yeah, either side. um Or the top of a donut or the bottom of a donut, top of toroid, want to think of it. um So yeah, I waterline or adaptive roughed it all. And then did a spiral tool or...
00:39:04
jamie peacock
OK.
00:39:05
Curt
I did a spiral face, which fusion, that infuriates me. You can't do spiral face in fusion. So I have to draw a spiral and then drive the tool path off the spiral, which is okay. But like, let me face in a spiral fusion.
00:39:17
Curt
Um, cause I want the,
00:39:18
jamie peacock
You can do, I think, I think you can do a flat with it. There is a way I've done it before.
00:39:23
Curt
maybe.
00:39:25
jamie peacock
There's an option somewhere for it.
00:39:28
Curt
Okay. Cause I want the top, like I want the swirl machine marks to be circular, not like back and forth.
00:39:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:31
jamie peacock
Yes. Like the top of anchor point.
00:39:33
Curt
Um, Totally, yeah. so So I did that, and then I did the the roughing, and then, yeah, spiral toolpath with a 1 16th ball mill to get the tapered size.
00:39:42
jamie peacock
Okay. So you have a single engagement a single disengagement point.
00:39:44
Curt
And then...
00:39:48
Curt
i
00:39:49
jamie peacock
Because if you do like a geodesic, it tends to do come in and out and out on every fucking layer.
00:39:50
Curt
yeah
00:39:54
jamie peacock
Whereas a spiral will just re all the way down.
00:39:56
Curt
Oh, sorry.
00:39:56
jamie peacock
Makes a big difference in surface finish.
00:39:57
Curt
it's a It's a radial spiral, so it's coming out like ah like a sunburst, not a round and round and round.
00:40:00
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:40:03
jamie peacock
Oh, okay.
00:40:04
Curt
Yeah, yeah. It's going like... cause I wanted the sunburst pattern on it.
00:40:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:07
Curt
um And then I avoided...
00:40:08
jamie peacock
Like the bottom of the anchor points. Yeah.
00:40:10
Curt
Totally. And I got it to jump over...
00:40:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:12
Curt
Like, there's some little pockets. I got it to jump over those pockets. And then after I came back and surfaced those spiral, like, individually. So you would follow the profile.
00:40:19
jamie peacock
yes nice
00:40:19
Curt
So you'd get the toolpaths to all look nice. And yeah, I thought it would work in my head and it worked. So that was cool.
00:40:26
jamie peacock
yeah fusion you can get quite creative with your tool parts in fusion
00:40:27
Curt
So yeah. I was...
00:40:32
Curt
Yeah, and and then that's where like it's nice to have high acceleration on a machine because I'm like, oh I'm like, this is going to take forever. And I look at the toolpath, and I'm like, six minutes? I'm like, it's going to take six minutes to do all the surfacing? I'm like, oh, I would have assumed like 46 minutes. And it's just like, this exist in six, six, six, six. six exist I'm like, ah, right. I forgot. You don't have to like, zzzz, zzzz, zzzz, zzzz but but but but but
00:40:54
jamie peacock
It just goes. Yeah.
00:40:55
Curt
yeah i was like oh i like this i just rarely do i push that machine yeah so
00:40:56
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. mean, surfacing. i mean, well, I've been machining at boobs again. And then I mean, I surfaced at 3.6 meters a minute.
00:41:04
Curt
Nice.
00:41:06
jamie peacock
So it's like shootop shootop chipop shoop shoop chipop up and down to surface those enclosures because we finally got that go ahead on that.
00:41:14
Curt
Nice.
00:41:15
jamie peacock
Yeah. know So, but yeah, that just looked in like really, really good.
00:41:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:21
Curt
Thanks, man. Thank you.
00:41:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:23
Curt
The one thing I got to F with
00:41:23
jamie peacock
But being purposeful with your two paths makes a big difference.
00:41:27
Curt
Oh, absolutely. And like like you said, do all the things. that like Make sure all your radiuses aren't like full engagement radiuses. And like if you can design around...
00:41:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:34
Curt
like As much as when you're designing your own product, like make it so you can make it.
00:41:39
jamie peacock
Exactly.
00:41:39
Curt
But like the one thing I... I lost my train of thought here. Doesn't matter.
00:41:46
jamie peacock
Your what of thought?
00:41:46
Curt
We'll carry on. It'll come back. Oh, was it was... hu ah ah Sick. Anyway, it'll come back up if it's important.
00:41:55
jamie peacock
and Yeah, I'm sure it will.
00:41:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:57
jamie peacock
um Okay, so I'm going to do the the next one in my list there because it's also...
00:42:04
Curt
Yes, that's a good good segue.
00:42:06
jamie peacock
Yes, Jamie is
Fusion 360 Challenges and Social Media Insights
00:42:08
Curt
the
00:42:08
jamie peacock
going to be a train enthusiast now.
00:42:12
jamie peacock
Fusion changed the bounding box for double-clicking on their fucking toolpaths.
00:42:18
Curt
Okay.
00:42:19
jamie peacock
so when you go to double click and edit to edit a tool path.
00:42:19
Curt
how do you How do you mean?
00:42:22
jamie peacock
So I don't right click and say edit, I double click.
00:42:25
Curt
Okay.
00:42:25
jamie peacock
They've changed the bounding box for for the name to double click and change the name.
00:42:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:30
jamie peacock
They've made that box bigger, and the box to edit it smaller. Because I keep fucking renaming the things instead of opening.
00:42:38
Curt
Ah, I see.
00:42:39
jamie peacock
And it's like muscle movement, go click it. And it's like why is it not open? ah it's trying to rename it.
00:42:44
Curt
and
00:42:45
jamie peacock
I can't decide if that's worse or my banking app changing the font that they use. It's one of the two. It's been the most frustrating thing this week, but fuck, it's been, don't know, some fucking ugly one.
00:42:54
Curt
What font did they change to? That's that's the most important.
00:42:58
jamie peacock
I don't like don't like change. Yeah.
00:43:00
Curt
Papyrus.
00:43:02
jamie peacock
yeah
00:43:03
Curt
Comic Sans.
00:43:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's, yeah, I don't know, they changed their icons.
00:43:05
Curt
Anyways, carry on. Sorry.
00:43:07
jamie peacock
But yeah, Fusion has changed that bounding box, and it is infinitely frustrating. Because I go to edit the toolpath, double click, and it doesn't fucking open. Also, they changed that if you edit its toolpath, it doesn't show you the toolpath until you click off and click back on it.
00:43:21
Curt
Oh, I dislike that.
00:43:22
jamie peacock
So used to be case.
00:43:22
Curt
I dislike that, yeah.
00:43:25
jamie peacock
It is, yeah. Between that and the double clicking thing, it's like, Fusion, what are you doing? Stop looking at Microsoft. They're not the example you should be following. Because yeah both of those have been pissing me off to no end.
00:43:35
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:37
jamie peacock
Because normally I'd go edit toolpath, watch it regenerate, and see what it's doing. Halfway through regeneration, oh no, I want to change something. Now, click off, click back on, and then it'll finish generating then show toolpath.
00:43:49
jamie peacock
Very annoying. Like, extremely fucking frustrating. Also, Fusion crashed eight times in a row on Thursdays.
00:43:58
Curt
Hmm. That's a lot.
00:43:59
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was fucking frustrating. I'd pull the thing from toolpath, the toolpaths down, be editing them, and then next thing, bam, crashes.
00:44:10
jamie peacock
Again and again and again and again. was a little bit annoyed. But they were mowing my lawn at the same time, so I'm wondering if it wasn't just shit from that. because yeah Have you ever tried to fly a drone when someone's mowing the lawn in the park?
00:44:26
Curt
No, I haven't. No.
00:44:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, you don't fly. Your video is unusable.
00:44:30
Curt
Really?
00:44:31
jamie peacock
Yes, because that spark is across the entire fucking band and just creates so much interference that you cannot see your video. who were flying the one and we were like, what the fuck is going on?
00:44:40
Curt
Really?
00:44:41
jamie peacock
and they were mowing the lawn. and You could not see through your FPV goggles. So I don't know if that was just causing an exorbitant amount of EMR in the area and causing my PC to be retarded.
00:44:47
Curt
What? I mean.
00:44:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:52
jamie peacock
But yeah, it was very annoying.
00:44:55
Curt
I mean, not to stoke the fire of building a new PC, but I have noticed on this machine, I get way less like fusion crashes with like, I don't know if the hardware is just less stressed all the time or they're just old PC.
00:45:07
Curt
I don't know. So not helping.
00:45:09
jamie peacock
Well, don't even know what RAM costs these days, probably like my firstborn.
00:45:10
Curt
Sorry.
00:45:13
Curt
Oh yeah. well i mean, you have two kidneys for a reason, but
00:45:16
jamie peacock
Well, I've got two nephews too, can just sell them.
00:45:19
Curt
yeah, I give a lot more fun to make than a kidney. So
00:45:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly. I'm just going to see the price on RAM quickly. Because let's be realistic, I would want to have at least at least 32 gigs of a built a new PC.
00:45:34
Curt
Okay, so you'll probably be in like the $1,000 range then.
00:45:38
jamie peacock
This is fucking horrid and I hate it. There we go.
00:45:42
jamie peacock
Finally.
00:45:42
Curt
i mean, if you can find it, that's the thing.
00:45:43
Curt
You gotta find the DDR5.
00:45:44
jamie peacock
ah and I don't get in the stock locally.
00:45:45
Curt
I
00:45:47
jamie peacock
How much you saying for it for 32 gram to 16 gig sticks? Let me sort by price.
00:45:55
Curt
i would say that's probably... i can't. I don't know, honestly.
00:45:59
jamie peacock
I just want to make it sort and price. Is that ascending? No, that's descending. um If they have it in stock, starting at eight and half thousand rams so only five hundred and twenty dollars for two sticks of memory yeah it's fucking retarded um yeah i don't know um yeah the world it's in a weird state at the moment yes yes
00:46:16
Curt
yes I guess that was i wasn't a bad guess. That's a lot of cashola.
00:46:23
Curt
It is. just Yeah. Oh, I remember my fusion thing as we're on the fusion topic. um For that spiral tool path, the one thing I want to do is... imagine like so imagine it's all roughed and I want to come in and like the very first starburst streak that goes down the part...
00:46:42
Curt
is basically it's like it's slotting through all the roughing and then every sequential pass after that is exactly the amount of so i like i manually slow it down but i'm like i wonder if there's a fusion way where i can like i can ramp that first pass to like minimize the tool load so i can get the same surface look um anyways that's something i'm going to mess with because even a semi-finish even if you semi-finish you're still coming into like much bigger engagement
00:46:44
jamie peacock
Slotting, yeah.
00:46:48
jamie peacock
It's different. Yes.
00:47:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:09
Curt
but for the very first one. And then everything sequentially after that is like your step over, which is fine.
00:47:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, but starburst, starburst you have that pattern, you can say how many degrees you want it to go over doesn't it?
00:47:14
Curt
So.
00:47:21
Curt
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
00:47:23
jamie peacock
So constrain it to one line and then have it come down a second time.
00:47:30
Curt
Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. Run your first line slowly.
00:47:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:33
Curt
And then, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:47:34
jamie peacock
So i have it as a separate toolpath that it runs it slowly, and then run comes over it again when it does the rest of your Yeah.
00:47:34
Curt
I just.
00:47:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:41
Curt
That's true. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I could yeah come down slowly and leave like a thou and then come. Yeah, that's true.
00:47:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:46
Curt
That's a good way. That's a good idea.
00:47:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:48
Curt
Thank you. That's a good idea.
00:47:49
jamie peacock
Or put in negative degrees so that it's, no no, so that it would cut your main line, leave the file, cut your main line, cut the one that it ends with, and then come back and start so that it's only cutting on the one side all the time.
00:47:54
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:47:59
Curt
Yes.
00:48:04
Curt
Yes. I like these ideas.
00:48:05
jamie peacock
That would be, yeah.
00:48:06
Curt
These are good ideas. Yes.
00:48:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, the the dirty tricks you have to pull in fusion.
00:48:08
Curt
Yes. Thank you. That's a good idea.
00:48:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:11
Curt
No, no. Like, why can't I just, I mean, but that's even that's even better method than like if it allowed me to ramp or something, because now i'm now I can match the chip load perfectly and the feed perfectly and get a ah clean look.
00:48:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:20
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:48:22
Curt
Ooh, I like that. I like that idea. I'm going to do that.
00:48:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:25
Curt
I
00:48:25
jamie peacock
Yeah. So, i you know my lovely helicopter that was in my yard this morning?
00:48:31
Curt
ah love how you say helicopter. Yeah, yeah.
00:48:33
jamie peacock
The Chopinator? Yeah, it finally got blunt.
00:48:35
Curt
this
00:48:38
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:48:39
jamie peacock
Yes, so our surface ground the sliding jaw, the guillotine jaw. Then the hole was in the wrong place on the, where the wire feeds through.
00:48:49
jamie peacock
So I had to drill hardened tool steel. PCB drill for the win.
00:48:53
Curt
Okay, this
00:48:55
jamie peacock
12,000 rippums and hand feed that fucker in.
00:48:58
Curt
this is your ah this is your wire chopper for those that are listening, correct?
00:48:59
jamie peacock
Yeah, the wire chopper, yeah.
00:49:00
Curt
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
00:49:01
jamie peacock
um It is, so, so I'm feeding continuous. There's a gap of about two and half, three inches between the effectively extruder and the cutter.
00:49:09
Curt
Right.
00:49:16
jamie peacock
And the wire in that gap bends as the die is down. And then as the die clears, it springs forward, chops, bends, springs forward, chops, bends.
00:49:21
Curt
Sure.
00:49:27
jamie peacock
So if that's not constrained or if it's over constrained, the wires are short. If it's under constrained, it kinks and feeds off to the fucking and abyss.
00:49:39
jamie peacock
Also, it does that if the extruder moves and I snapped two screws that were screwed into the wood just from the vibration.
00:49:47
Curt
Oh, wow. Okay.
00:49:48
jamie peacock
So I came in, there's a pile of wire next to the machine. I'm like, ah, shit. Stop it. Check. Oh, screw broke. Put a new screw in to set the extruder at the right angle. Like super fucking finicky.
00:49:57
Curt
Right. Right.
00:49:58
jamie peacock
And then it was jamming this evening. So then i' put oil and then it stopped jamming through the magic of lubrication. But yeah, that it did 30 kilos of wire over the weekend.
00:50:05
Curt
Yeah, it helps.
00:50:09
Curt
Oh, wow. Okay.
00:50:09
jamie peacock
Because unfortunately, I can't run it during the week anymore.
00:50:10
Curt
Oh,
00:50:13
jamie peacock
Because I have a Saimo the Mimo fucking assembling parts in that spot.
00:50:14
Curt
right.
00:50:17
jamie peacock
Also ran the Slowio today because he's in the fucking way of running the Slowio.
00:50:23
Curt
Nice, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:50:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, I also have like three, three and a half thousand parts in my driveway right now. Assembled parts that need to be delivered tomorrow.
00:50:30
Curt
Ooh.
00:50:32
jamie peacock
So tomorrow morning, Dimendanik leaves, I'll reverse my truck in and send them, weigh these things. When there's 100, put them in the back of the bucky. I'll go deliver them, they can put it a tote and they can just sweep them off the back of my truck. a
00:50:43
Curt
Right, right.
00:50:44
jamie peacock
I can't have them in my driveway anymore.
00:50:44
Curt
to
00:50:45
jamie peacock
like They need to fuck with Adia. So I'm going to go in. Either that or I'll open the tailgate and reverse down their driveway and hit the brakes and let them just yeet. But yeah, he's doing a a lot of those every every day.
00:50:53
Curt
ah but
00:51:00
Curt
No doubt. Sounds like it. Yeah. Wow.
00:51:02
jamie peacock
So, tell me about your YouTube Instagram story.
00:51:07
Curt
Dude, I like, so like my my YouTube channel just kind of exists. And then I forget, like when you post video to it, ah it like, it obviously like starts to recommend your channel again to more people.
00:51:21
Curt
So you start getting more views across every one of videos.
00:51:22
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:51:24
Curt
And like, just looking at the way, like Instagram, I probably have a lot more like people interaction, which is the main reason I'm there. Because I enjoy talking with people.
00:51:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:34
Curt
Instagram, you'll get a lot of like, you'll get interaction, but you also get interaction from just people that you don't want to interact with. um Like, I still think and the instant machinist community is one of the best machine communities out there.
00:51:46
Curt
But like, I forget how much better YouTube is. Like, if you want to put content out there and you want like people to be able to see it and like learn from it and then like ah gain what you can from that, YouTube just is killing Instagram. Because like,
00:52:00
Curt
I'll post something cool on Instagram. Like I have a real that's doing quite well on Instagram and on, on this coin actually.
00:52:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:05
Curt
And like, I get followers from it, but like, it's a very small percentage. I do the same on Instagram and it's like a thousand percent different of like how much reach and people are like, like it's the world is not about subscribers and even the algorithm isn't about subscribers anymore, but it's just like, they're so different. It's crazy. Like growth on Instagram versus gross on growth on YouTube right now. Anyways, just seems to be like,
00:52:27
Curt
crazy, crazy polar opposites. So long story short, I'm going to be continuing playing with YouTube because it's fun. I enjoy it and ah it rewards me.
00:52:36
jamie peacock
I know AJ says similar things about that, but also like your your YouTube following is nearly five times the size of your Instagram following.
00:52:37
Curt
Even.
00:52:45
Curt
That is true. That is true.
00:52:46
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:52:48
Curt
So that helps for sure.
00:52:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, I just went and checked.
00:52:50
Curt
But. Ooh. Well, thank you for the humble break.
00:52:53
jamie peacock
But yeah, and I know AJ says the same thing. like That's why they moved Taps and Patients off of his channel because it was hurting his channel videos.
00:53:02
Curt
Right. Yeah, totally.
00:53:03
jamie peacock
So because like a ah podcast was getting a couple hundred to a thousand views, whereas his normal videos were getting like 10,000 views.
00:53:14
jamie peacock
So YouTube wasn't sure what to do with his channel.
00:53:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:17
jamie peacock
So they separated it.
00:53:19
Curt
Yeah. And it's like, I, I, I get it for when you'd like put, you put effort into like, like the one of the Instagram shorts I put up, whatever, it there was like four hours of editing into that.
00:53:20
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:28
Curt
Whereas like, I do that same editing for YouTube and I like, I actually get compensated like monetarily for it.
00:53:33
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:53:33
Curt
And over time that pays like some of my videos, like you factor it out over time.
00:53:36
jamie peacock
It adds up.
00:53:37
Curt
You're like, wow, that paid for, you know, XYZ or whatever. Like it, it adds, it adds up a lot.
00:53:41
jamie peacock
Like making an aluminium pen.
00:53:42
Curt
So. like making that yeah totally that that is probably paid for that aluminum a thousand times over so yeah it's like yeah i don't know it do what you like i suppose but
00:53:46
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's
00:53:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's interesting. Like, if you've got a following on on YouTube, it your stuff gets shown to people. If you don't have a big following there, I think it gets buried very quickly.
00:54:06
Curt
Well, and that's that's the problem is because like it's it's hard to speak like people will rail against it that have like 100 subscribers. And it's a different world because obviously you're interacting with it. Like the growth is different.
00:54:17
Curt
I 100% get that.
00:54:18
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:54:18
Curt
And like even now, like I have my following now on YouTube is considered small in this day and age. Like I'm not even a micro influencer on YouTube.
00:54:24
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:54:26
Curt
Like if you have 100,000, you're considered like a micro, I think. 100,000 subscribers.
00:54:29
jamie peacock
Oh, geez.
00:54:30
Curt
Like, it's it's crazy. like it's great Like, it's a numbers game.
00:54:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:54:34
Curt
It's just a kind of an egotistical weird thing, but...
00:54:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, but I mean, you look 10 years ago, was or no, fuck, even more than that. That was like prime vlogging time. And you look at some of those channels just came out of nowhere.
00:54:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:45
jamie peacock
And next thing had like a million followers.
00:54:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:47
jamie peacock
And yeah, it was silly.
00:54:50
Curt
And with that said, if you make cool content...
00:54:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:54:53
Curt
The same shit happens. Like if you make cool content that people enjoy, it doesn't matter about the aug algorithm.
00:54:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:54:58
Curt
It doesn't like, if you have a cool story and you share it, you're still going to do well. Like it's, it's not like, Oh, you only have to post at five o'clock on Thursdays.
00:55:02
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:55:05
Curt
it's like, no, just make something cool. It'll work. like
00:55:07
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, 100%. Because it'll get shared in the community that it matters to.
00:55:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:12
jamie peacock
And then it gets shared around like, that's exactly it. um
00:55:16
Curt
Yeah. No.
00:55:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, you don't have to be a giant channel before you start posting videos.
00:55:22
Curt
Yeah, that's fun. That's fun. i've been I've been enjoying that.
00:55:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:55:24
Curt
So oh let me, ah what's one other topic going to pick for Master Jamie? how about your ah How about your broaching macro that you sent me a lovely video on?
CNC Innovations and Workshop Mishaps
00:55:34
jamie peacock
Yes, so, Kamish, the guy bought Bertha, and listens to this, hello Kamish, I was there on Friday, because I didn't feel like working, so went to visit him, and he was like, no, he's got to get these things wire cut, he's trying to get them done, and then he phoned the guy who was going to the wire cut, he's like, oh no, he's leaving at 3, you can come on Monday, and he needs to deliver on Monday.
00:55:40
Curt
Hello.
00:55:56
jamie peacock
So I was like, Well, we can broach this, you can broach it on your manual lathe, or we can broach it on Bertha.
00:55:57
Curt
Okay.
00:56:04
jamie peacock
So I was like, I drew him a sketch, I'm like, make this blank, bring it to me tomorrow. And I'll machine up what I need to machine on it to be able to use it as a broach. So I machined the blank, brought it to me, I quickly machined the milling on it to make it into the right shape and a seat for the insert.
00:56:21
jamie peacock
And then He left and today's like now about one o'clock, you'll be done with the job you're busy with. We can set it up. So then I went through there i'd like ho plus one. I took my bar feeding macro or my macro code and just re relabeled everything. It did some maths.
00:56:40
jamie peacock
And now you basically tell it how deep the keyway is from the tangent of the circle. So where the the corner of the key where broach starts touching, how much deeper you want to go what step over you want to do per pass and how deep the part is.
00:56:55
jamie peacock
You position a millimeter in front and at zero. So where you start scribing a line and you hit start and it goes jep gp je as many times as needs to calculate how many times to do it. All moves are incremental.
00:57:07
jamie peacock
So literally just In, goes in, out, increment, or clears, comes comes back, sarah increments out, goes in, out. So it's all just driven by those variables.
00:57:17
jamie peacock
And it works. Well, the first time it went half the distance it was meant to because we were in diameter. So fixed that on the second go around.
00:57:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:27
jamie peacock
And yeah, works really well. Makes a really nice chip on that tool, surprisingly. And the machine doesn't seem to be struggling. I wouldn't call it a particularly heavy cut either.
00:57:36
Curt
Nice.
00:57:38
jamie peacock
We're doing a 10 millimeter wide key, key way and taking a 20 micron depth of cut.
00:57:46
Curt
Yeah, well, the chips still look respectable.
00:57:46
jamie peacock
So the chips are beautiful.
00:57:47
Curt
Like they looked like a decent chip.
00:57:49
jamie peacock
We actually started at 12 and a half microns and went up to 20 microns per pass.
00:57:54
Curt
Hmm.
00:57:55
jamie peacock
And it just goes, yeah, like 400 passes um to do a ah keyway that was four and a half millimeters deep.
00:57:55
Curt
Nice. Yeah.
00:58:03
jamie peacock
But whatever, it worked. um But yeah, that works. yeah so I'm going to go grab that macro from him for if I ever need it. I wrote in such a way that it's pretty straightforward to use and pretty well labeled. So yeah, if anyone wants it, just reach out and I'm sure we can make a plan.
00:58:18
jamie peacock
It is obviously written for Linux CNC. But I don't see why. it couldn't work for sorry for anything else that you know how to set variables on.
00:58:30
Curt
I said, yeah, if you're writing, if you're if you're in this world, you probably know how to do it.
00:58:32
jamie peacock
It's, yeah, it's also not particularly complicated.
00:58:34
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:36
jamie peacock
Like if you know how to loop your code, it's not hard because it just runs a like five lines of code that just loop.
00:58:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:44
jamie peacock
um
00:58:44
Curt
Just hit the green button again.
00:58:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, pretty. Yeah, it's like pretty, pretty straightforward. um And then yeah, the reason I went there is because my power went off today.
00:58:52
Curt
Cool.
00:58:55
jamie peacock
While I was machining at eight meters a minute.
00:58:55
Curt
party.
00:58:58
Curt
Oh, no. Oh, no.
00:59:03
jamie peacock
Ran the part finished when I got back and it's fine.
00:59:06
Curt
Oh, well, good.
00:59:06
jamie peacock
I wasn't moving in Z. So Z was steady. was moving in X and Y. So it was running at eight meters a minute and doof off.
00:59:11
Curt
Okay.
00:59:15
jamie peacock
And then I heard the power spindle over spindle spinning down for like two or three minutes.
00:59:16
Curt
Oh.
00:59:20
Curt
Oh. Rough.
00:59:21
jamie peacock
it was fine.
00:59:22
Curt
Didn't leave. I guess if it was if it was just roughing or...
00:59:25
jamie peacock
Yeah, just it was doing the floor finish as well, but didn't make any difference.
00:59:26
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:59:30
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:59:30
jamie peacock
The more annoying thing was I thought I switched everything off but I didn't I left my vacuum pump on.
00:59:30
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:59:34
jamie peacock
So I came back and my workshop was covered in mist because it was the part didn't create a steel.
00:59:39
Curt
Ah, right.
00:59:40
jamie peacock
So it was pumping air through the thing and just fucking misting my entire workshop. So I a little bit annoyed by that when I got back.
00:59:46
Curt
Right.
00:59:47
jamie peacock
So I put fresh oil in it because there's none left um and then carried on running.
00:59:53
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:59:54
jamie peacock
That poor vacuum pump has you had coolant for longer than it's had oil in it.
00:59:59
Curt
oh
01:00:00
jamie peacock
But it's like, they they're fucking stupid cheap. I think that one was like $100. a hundred dollars So when it does, I'll just go buy another one.
01:00:07
Curt
I see you got your value out of it. Yeah.
01:00:09
jamie peacock
Yeah, just go buy another one.
01:00:09
Curt
yeah yeah, totally. Yeah.
01:00:10
jamie peacock
I use it on so many things. Oh, my word. Can you people leave me alone? I need to set up a filter on my inbox that if anybody with a gmail.com um domain emails me about nautical workholding it just goes straight to the fucking spam folder because I get like six six emails a day asking to about my store someone asked can I speak to the owner of nautical workholding it's like no and then I got a long spiel about how they can optimize my SEO
01:00:34
Curt
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Filters save lives.
01:00:46
Curt
Yeah, but
01:00:49
Curt
yeah yep, I just filter all those right to the trash bin, yeah.
01:00:51
jamie peacock
yeah yeah I need to figure out so be nice and I'll pay you more
01:00:58
Curt
Dude, that's like, ah i i come I was talking with my wife. I was dealing with one of my insurance companies that deals with my commercial insurance. And they're just kind of, they're not my favorite people, put it that way.
01:01:09
Curt
And it's always been a hassle dealing with them.
01:01:09
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
01:01:11
Curt
And I was like, ah my policy was coming up for renewal. And I read the fine print on all the stuff they're covering. I'm like, you know what? I don't really like these people. And then, so I i have another company that deals with other insurance. so I'm moving everything everything over there because they are nice. They are nice to me. And you know what? If they quote me, if they quoted me more than the other company, I would just pay it because I like them and they're pleasant to deal with.
01:01:33
Curt
They never make it like, they're like, well, that's your fault because you didn't do that. it's like, I just, I just, just figure it out for me. I'm paying you to do that.
01:01:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:41
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
01:01:41
Curt
Just figure it out for me.
01:01:42
Curt
Like, don't like just, and then same thing. it was like, had to pay them and they're like, okay, well they're on top of this. Like you want to pay by credit card? I'm like, sure. They're like, oh, we'll have to charge a processing fee. I'm like, seriously.
01:01:52
Curt
I'm like, like it was, ah it was a large sum of money. I'm like, and the processing fee was like dollars and the payment was like, you know, a thousand or actually it was like six, 700 bucks or something like that. But the, the additional fee they had to put on was like,
01:02:06
Curt
Six bucks. And was like, no, I'm like, you can, you can eat that. Like I've paid you guys thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars.
01:02:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:11
jamie peacock
Yeah. Not it's the principle it.
01:02:12
Curt
You can, you can eat that And they're like, we can't.
01:02:14
Curt
I'm like, I do. I sell pens out of my garage for a living and I eat the processing costs. Cause it's like, it's not that big a deal. It's like, surely your multimillion dollar company can do that.
01:02:23
jamie peacock
like like
01:02:25
Curt
And they're like, No, i was like, that's the straw. That's the straw that broke the camel's back. And that I canceled the policy over that just because I'm like, and they're like, well, if that's, if it's the issue with the money you can pay, but I'm like, it's not the money.
01:02:37
Curt
It's just your, you guys are, you guys are annoying.
01:02:38
jamie peacock
principle of
01:02:40
Curt
Yeah. You're just annoying to deal with. Like, and you, I don't, don't like insurance is one of those things you pay a bunch for and you typically, hopefully never use it. So, Anyway, just I have so many companies I deal with that supply me material that I love, that supply me with other insurance that I love, my bank I love. And you know what? they just They'd be nice to me.
01:02:58
Curt
I'll pay them more money. I don't care. It's, I don't know.
01:03:01
jamie peacock
No, that's it. It's customer service. Yeah.
01:03:04
Curt
I think it's like, it's more of a ah younger generation. Cause I know like so many, like, like boomer ish people being like squeeze, squeeze them for everything got, like rule with an iron fist. Like don't give an inch. It's like, that sounds stressful and annoying. I'm like, I would rather just, if someone tells me the price, I'd be like, okay, that sounds reasonable. And like,
01:03:23
Curt
And now I have like, I have good customer service because if they're like, you know, if it shipped late or something like that, you'd be like, well, you did try to squeeze us. I'm like, no, I just, I disagreed to what you said. So anyways, that hasn't let me down over the last X amount of years.
01:03:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:35
Curt
And I will continue to do that. Maybe
Humor, Recommendations, and Closing
01:03:37
Curt
I'll lose some money over it, but I'm happier for it.
01:03:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:40
Curt
So be nice folks. Be nice to people. That's all that boils down to.
01:03:43
jamie peacock
Exactly. Yeah.
01:03:44
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. as as Jamie leads the podcast of being like, fuck these people.
01:03:47
jamie peacock
Well.
01:03:50
Curt
I'm going to get this.
01:03:50
jamie peacock
Yeah,
01:03:52
Curt
You're a nice person, but I mean, you're very aggro.
01:03:56
jamie peacock
I tend to be a little bit grumpy towards stupid people.
01:03:57
Curt
yeah
01:03:59
jamie peacock
um We have a question this week.
01:04:00
Curt
Fair, fair, fair.
01:04:02
jamie peacock
and i believe it's just the one no we still got tom never fear jamie's near um sorry just before we um jump into that okay we just have the one question so this question is from dylan from gotchips on instagram and the discord and many other places um how would you guys verify if an electric motor is faulty and how would you repair it i'm gonna go on a limb and assume
01:04:02
Curt
Oh yes. We're running late, but anyways.
01:04:07
Curt
Okay.
01:04:31
jamie peacock
He is referring to the spindle motor on his big ass lathe.
01:04:39
Curt
m
01:04:40
jamie peacock
Yeah. So motors are tricky. Let's put it that way. Because they're induction motors.
01:04:47
Curt
Yeah, they can be.
01:04:48
jamie peacock
So measuring them is a little bit difficult.
01:04:53
jamie peacock
If there's a dead short, yes, you'll know.
01:04:54
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:56
jamie peacock
But if there isn't a dead short, you can't actually reliably measure them with like off the shelf equipment yeah yeah yeah
01:05:03
Curt
Yeah, I mean, like, it depends because I don't mean you are like, like, same thing. Like I took, say I didn't know, like my lathe tore out and then i separated every single winding so I could determine which, wi like if the windings were good and then change the wiring. Like that's a little excessive.
01:05:20
Curt
Like if you don't want to start pulling coils out of your lathe or out of your motor, it's, yeah, like you said, they're all interconnected in wire delta.
01:05:28
jamie peacock
So the issue is like if you go and measure the resistance across them and one of them between, so in that case, it's probably just three phases going into the motor.
01:05:28
Curt
So you have to have some specialty equipment.
01:05:38
jamie peacock
It's finook servo. um If you measure between the phases and between phase one and three, there's a short and between two and three, there's a short, you know, phase three is probably poked.
01:05:40
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:05:51
jamie peacock
Or if you're sorry, not a short, you're well, the resistance between say, yeah, you got to measure the resistance between all three phases.
01:05:55
Curt
ah
01:05:59
jamie peacock
And if one of them is way different, and it's going to be low, it's going to be like in the ohms range. um If one of them is significantly lower than you know, hey, you've got a burnt out winding.
01:06:10
jamie peacock
The other thing it could be in this case is the servo drive itself.
01:06:16
Curt
That's true.
01:06:16
jamie peacock
And if that's, if that's the case, that's a bit of a bastard to diagnose because
01:06:16
Curt
Yeah, that's very true.
01:06:21
jamie peacock
if it's, it depends on the voltage of the motor, whether you can just put fucking three phase on it and see what happens. Because if you can do that, and the motor spins up to maximum RPM, well, then the motor is fine, and your drives faulty, or VFD, and then you know if your drives faulty or your motor is faulty or not.
01:06:31
Curt
Totally.
01:06:42
jamie peacock
um The problem is if it works on a VFD, well, your phone no controller is getting heated out because you're not to be able to interface that super easily.
01:06:52
Curt
Yeah, that's, um, yeah, aside from having where you can do the switch or change, it'll be like, connect a different servo to it and see if it works.
01:06:58
jamie peacock
yeah
01:06:59
Curt
But then once again, if your drive is the one that fucked it up in the first place, and you connect the nice, fancy servo to it, and you just roast another one.
01:07:02
jamie peacock
is faulty it's kind of blow yeah yeah would say your best bet's measuring between the windings so obviously disconnect the servo drive from it measure the windings see if all between all the windings is the same
01:07:07
Curt
Yeah, it's just like it's a double edged sword there. Yeah.
01:07:21
jamie peacock
would be the biggest would be the first thing that's going to tell you if one of the sets of windings is cooked and also check them to ground to see that the installation hasn't failed
01:07:24
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:26
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:32
Curt
Yeah, I'd say that. I would make it, like, i' would definitely make a table and check, yeah, like, whatever. A to B, A to C, B to C, B to A, and, like, yeah, ground to A, ground to B, ground to C, and just, like, yeah, check anything you possibly can and make sure you see patterns, and if you don't see patterns, you probably have issues.
01:07:41
jamie peacock
just see here
01:07:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, and then those motors as far as I can be rewound.
01:07:48
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:51
jamie peacock
um I'm just not sure if the I don't think i know the Siemens motors if you pull the encoder off you shit luck because it is matched to the state's position in the factory.
01:07:52
Curt
Hmm.
01:08:00
Curt
Right, yeah,
01:08:03
jamie peacock
I don't think the Finoot motors are like that, but I'm not I'm not sure.
01:08:07
Curt
yeah. I don't know, yeah, unfortunately, I don't know.
01:08:08
jamie peacock
As far as I know, they're not as far as I know, they are not. um So yeah, that would be my suggestion. And then if it is one of the windings that's fucked, you can probably get it rewound.
01:08:20
Curt
Yeah, yeah, totally.
01:08:21
jamie peacock
ah But then you're committing to running that FNUC controller, which is horrid and old and fucked that, put LinuxCNC.
01:08:30
Curt
There's yeah. Or do the super easy troubleshooting and open it. And if it looks burnt, it's fucked. And if it smells burnt, it's fucked.
01:08:36
jamie peacock
If it smells burnt, yeah.
01:08:39
Curt
It's like, yeah.
01:08:39
jamie peacock
you'll know if it smells burnt. And if you don't ask Jacob, what is what is EtherCAT drive smells like?
01:08:42
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
01:08:47
Curt
Oh, low.
01:08:49
jamie peacock
and Sorry, low blow there, Jacob, but you did deserve it. Can't remember why you deserve it, but you deserved it.
01:08:56
Curt
yeah what did he do
01:08:56
jamie peacock
oh It was just generally a Jacob. um So what is in your Google box?
01:09:04
Curt
ah My Google box is full of guess what camera shit. um So or not it's not full of it.
01:09:10
jamie peacock
shock and awe.
01:09:12
Curt
It's a little bit. I'm basically debating between ah really good or really good prime lenses or pretty decent zoom lenses for i I need a couple different, yeah, I need fast aperture lenses. So like really big apertures. And I want a couple different focal distances.
01:09:31
Curt
Ideally, the best way to do it is primes. I've always bought primes. That's the way to go. But I kind of want to zoom just for the convenience of it. But to get a zoom at a low aperture and a constant aperture, really spendy, like really spendy. And the lenses are huge. So anyways, debating that.
01:09:46
Curt
excuse me, M-Bright and Tritium because someone said those little like pockets on your fidget look like they're sized for like, they would they would probably work well for Tritium.
01:09:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:09:55
Curt
And I was like, someone's reading my mail because that's kind of why I put them like that. So Tritium is amazing. Honestly, if they had the Tritium vials in the sides, if this one probably already would have had it because that's what I designed it for.
01:10:06
Curt
um But I looked at M-Bright, which I think is actually a trademark name by like TEC Accessories or something. It's just like a glow plastic. So looking at variants of that. Classic Pokemon value because we have a giant Pokemon card that my daughter was getting me to read all the Pokemon for.
01:10:21
Curt
And i was like, what are were these worth? because we have some like shadowless cards and some stuff. So I'm perusing that.
01:10:24
jamie peacock
Oh. Yeah. Ah, Yeah.
01:10:26
Curt
Fansaw, obviously. um Seek Temple. ah Once again, my daughter's curious about things. I'm not a religious person. So she said she wanted to go to church. I'm like, all right, you know what? I'll take you to every church. So yeah.
01:10:39
Curt
Yeah, I'm just like, let's get you exposed to every single religion so you know that it's not just one. But yeah, there's a super cool looking to Sikh temple just north of my place. And the people there are incredible. Like they'll invite you in and feed you. And yeah, amazing community, beautiful temple.
01:10:54
Curt
I would like to go in there. And lastly, I think it's RTA YouTube. I'll have it linked in the show notes. This guy makes, ah I think it's mostly he was making parts for like ah Audi R8.
01:11:05
Curt
It's what I remember. um And he just, he makes cool videos around like building little products. And just the video he shoots is beautiful. The products he makes are incredible. Just really nice attention to detail.
01:11:20
Curt
Really pleasing to watch. So I'll link him in the show notes if you're into that kind of stuff. Definitely worth a watch. How about you, Jamie? What's in your box of Google?
01:11:27
jamie peacock
um Googling G901 to make sure it is a incremental move. I was looking up daytrons to see their travels.
01:11:32
Curt
Fair.
01:11:36
Curt
Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm.
01:11:36
jamie peacock
certain parts that are currently in my workshop um looking at refurb pcs to run trello for commish um and then looking at battery powered saws because i bought a battery powered circular saw and i bought a small battery thinking i was wise i was otherwise uh and it goes into an overcurrent situation and then uh the saw can cut like all of a couple inches and then stalls so i need to go buy a bigger battery for it on monday and finish sawing up that sheet of material in my driveway
01:12:10
Curt
I like that you put your fingers like eight inches apart instead a couple inches. yeah It's telling. yeah
01:12:19
jamie peacock
um But yeah, so I bought a battery saw. was going to buy saws all and then decided it to buy a circular saw instead. um
01:12:25
Curt
Nice. Yeah.
01:12:26
jamie peacock
Bought an alley blade for it. And yeah it cuts well until the battery gets warm. And then it stops cutting well because it keeps fucking overcurrenting. And then I didn't want, they didn't have the single charger. They only had the dual station charger. I'm like, no, I want single So I came home and just piece of titanium into the one battery connector.
01:12:44
jamie peacock
Crocodile clip on the other one. There we go. Constant current power supply charging.
01:12:50
Curt
I can't. is it ah Is it a lithium cell or is it just...
01:12:52
jamie peacock
It's literally just 21 and a half. Yeah, it's got a BMS built in. So 21 and a half volt input and 2000 milliamps.
01:12:57
Curt
Oh, okay.
01:13:02
jamie peacock
Set the the lab power supply. Done.
01:13:06
Curt
Yeah, fair. If it's, yeah, if the BMS is built in.
01:13:07
jamie peacock
And the fact that it charges in 20 minutes leads me to think that it's not actually a 2200 milliamp hour battery.
01:13:08
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:16
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Probably not.
01:13:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah. Not even fucking close. Like a third of that.
01:13:22
jamie peacock
because I'm charging it at 1C and it charges in 20 minutes.
01:13:22
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:26
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Watts don't lie. Yep.
01:13:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly. So I want to buy a 4Ah battery and then see how how that goes. But I think it might also should be because I am absolutely thunderfucking the battery and overdrawing it.
01:13:40
jamie peacock
Because I would assume that that battery can only output like 10A continuously.
01:13:46
Curt
Yeah. Probably. Probably making it very angry.
01:13:47
jamie peacock
Because, yeah, it's a 18650 cell. They don't like outputting a lot of amps and they're five in series. So it's not like you've got pairs of them.
01:13:56
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:59
jamie peacock
So I'll put a four amp hour battery and see how that goes. And then absolutely abuse that. As one does.
01:14:05
Curt
Great idea. Great idea. Oh, that's awesome.
01:14:10
jamie peacock
So where can people find you, Kurt?
01:14:11
Curt
Cool. Oh, confoundermachine.com. And if I ever do release these fidgets, I will spam you with email. I will post it there. I'll post it on Instagram. I'll post it everywhere. So yeah, you don't have to. i've I've received a lot of messages, which is lovely. I love having the interest, but I will make it incredibly obvious. I promise you, you won't miss it unless you live under a rock for like a week at a time.
01:14:33
Curt
So yeah.
01:14:34
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:14:36
Curt
How about you? Where can people find your wares?
01:14:37
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, you can find the day to day things at of the shop at jspec.eng. Oh, no, wait. Jspec underscore engineering on Instagram. ah The Fluck and the merch is at jspecng.com.
01:14:50
jamie peacock
Anchor points and keel clamps are at nauticalwh.com. If you search anchor points, there should be links somewhere there. I'm trying to get the SEO sorted out on the website. Or if you search an nautical workholding, it should come up.
01:15:03
jamie peacock
um Yeah, trying to get the SEO side of things sorted out on Shopify. It is mildly infuriating.
01:15:11
jamie peacock
I'm tempted to take up one of these people who have emailed me incessantly and have them fix it. Like, yeah, i just don't want to pay them um because I feel like it's ripoff.
01:15:18
Curt
probably not a bad idea.
01:15:24
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's so where you can find me. What are you up to tomorrow, Kurt? Because it is, well, you got the rest of the day, but yeah.
01:15:33
Curt
Yeah, ah tomorrow i have some stuff I got to do in the morning, some family stuff, and then I'm probably going to flip the machines back over to production and then finish the CAD changes I want for the fidget so I can have two things going at once.
01:15:46
Curt
Oh, and edit video and yeah, we've got a bunch of shit. How about you? What are you up to tomorrow?
01:15:53
jamie peacock
Tomorrow we got Samo the Mamo coming, so I've got to get his whole station back set up in the morning. So I think I'm going to be in the shop early and machining HTB while I settle that up. um And then I've got to go deliver stuff and talk to customers and just general businessing.
01:16:10
Curt
Excite.
01:16:11
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, very exciting. Speaking of excite, started listening to Project Hail Mary again. today i finished the expanse series over yesterday i think or the day before i finished it kind of me on the end uh but yeah busy with project hail mary because i'm going to watch it on friday ah don't know if i'm gonna watch it down i might just go watch during the day uh or wait for it to get home and go watch in the evening not sure yet i can go watch it on thursday but that'll be late at night and my wife does not do so well with that
01:16:37
Curt
My wife is, ah my wife.
01:16:45
Curt
My wife's like halfway through right now. So she's, she's getting to certain parts.
01:16:48
jamie peacock
Nice, so she hasn't got to the world's greatest line in any book ever.
01:16:49
Curt
So.
01:16:51
Curt
No, she has not.
01:16:52
jamie peacock
Not yet.
01:16:53
Curt
But she every time we're talking about things now, she's good she goes, good, good, good. Yeah.
01:16:57
jamie peacock
Oh, nice. Lovely. Wait until she gets to that scene and then it's going to be fist me.
01:17:00
Curt
Bad, bad, bad. yeah Oh, yeah.
01:17:03
jamie peacock
Yeah,
01:17:05
Curt
Oh, yeah. Well, it's not. Let's leave that. Let's leave that one alone.
01:17:08
jamie peacock
leave that one alone. Oh, sweet.
01:17:12
Curt
but
01:17:12
jamie peacock
And on that lovely note, thank you to everybody for listening and we will see you next week.
01:17:18
Curt
Take care, all.