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Ep. 72: Someone Let The Machinists Near The Kitchen Equipment
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Ever wondered how a conversation about burgers turns into industrial automation, toaster engineering, and titanium butt plugs?
This week on the Lone Machinist Podcast:
Jamie survives a wedding weekend, immediately goes back to abusing the LK with horrifying amounts of tool steel, and starts planning how to automate 400,000 fence clamps without losing his sanity.
Curt discovers the joy of dual-wielding online stores, falls deeper into the flux vice rabbit hole, and accidentally reignites his dream of building the world’s smartest toaster.
We also discuss:
✔ Why South African fast food places sound like alarm clocks having a panic attack
✔ Tiny dovetail vices that solve all problems, potentially
✔ Why round bar is apparently the meaning of life
✔ Shop moves, power problems, and machine doorway measurements
✔ The return of Mr. Roboto thanks to catastrophic internet issues
✔ And a titanium “bean” with a flared base that lawyers insist is not a butt plug
If you like machining, fixturing, automation, or hearing two machinists spiral into increasingly dangerous business ideas… welcome home.
Links Discussed:
- calees cans flaired base bean: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0v_NLglnqNQ
- toaster technoligy conetcions: https://youtu.be/1OfxlSG6q5Y?si=wgWDy3edZj69aXPV
- T-shirts: https://www.jspeceng.com/online-store/Merch-c177137041
- cadbery advert 5star: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXVndnEiF5R/?igsh=ZHFic21vd2c2d3Bn
The Lone Machinist:
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Transcript
Introduction to Lone Machinist Podcast
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Lone Machinist where it's just you the work and the machines. What have you got going on today Kurt?
00:00:06
Curt
ah Today I'm going to talk about duelwieled dual wielding stores. ah Jamie has a fancy kitchen. And ah flux vices solve all my problems, potentially.
00:00:20
Curt
How about you? What are you going to talk about?
Fast Food Automation and Machining
00:00:22
jamie peacock
um We're gonna talk about fast food automation. We're gonna process a replacement spindle for the LK and then probably Kaylee's butt plug.
00:00:32
jamie peacock
Yes, how did you go there's a link in that really do.
00:00:32
Curt
I haven't seen that one yet, so...
00:00:34
Curt
yeah
00:00:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, how are you this fine day Kurt?
00:00:40
Curt
Good. I'm doing good. was, uh, yeah. Mother's day today. So did the, did the mother's day thing.
00:00:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:00:44
Curt
And, and now I get to talk with you. you So ah but how about, how about you?
00:00:48
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:00:48
Curt
What is your, I guess your, what's your morning cracking? What'd you be like?
00:00:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, bloody early. Yeah.
00:00:55
Curt
ah
00:00:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Weekend Activities and Wedding Preparations
00:00:57
jamie peacock
flippping ah It's been a it's been a weekend. We had a wedding over the weekend, so still recovering a little bit. um Partied really hard, but it was lots of fun and pretty much. where It was pretty out of it for a bit of dumb shit, but yeah it was fun.
00:01:12
jamie peacock
I got to do speech.
00:01:13
jamie peacock
It was it was also quite fun.
00:01:13
Curt
I know
00:01:16
Curt
ah you sent me some, some nice pictures though. I sent, yeah.
00:01:18
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:01:20
Curt
Okay.
00:01:20
jamie peacock
ah We will discuss some stuff that happened after we've done recording because I was told not to discuss it on the podcast because it will offend a bunch people.
00:01:25
Curt
Sounds fair enough. Fair enough.
00:01:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no, it was lots of fun. But yeah, still feeling a little rough this morning.
00:01:35
Curt
So this is probably like one of the weekends where you actually didn't work. You just went and had fun all weekend.
00:01:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, pretty much. So Friday... Friday was a write-off, basically. I got the LK running at Rand, stuff that I didn't have to stand there for. And then a baked freaking cakes and shit, because my wife offered to do the cakes for the wedding as a wedding gift. So, we baked cakes. we We only went through there, so, at about half past six in the evening, because we stayed there that night, helped finish setting up.
00:02:04
jamie peacock
Then we just sat around and talked shit. Then Saturday morning, both of us were part of the bridal party, so we we had stuff to do all day. And then, uh, party till one in the morning.
00:02:15
jamie peacock
And then woke up yesterday, that i had breakfast, they came back, watch the boys fell asleep on the couch, and then had to go to her family for Mother's Day and a family meeting to discuss some issues with her aunt and then came home and slept on the couch again.
00:02:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, didn't work this weekend that much.
00:02:34
Curt
Oh no. that
00:02:38
jamie peacock
No.
00:02:38
Curt
Good. That's good. Yeah.
00:02:40
jamie peacock
No joke. I'll get to run around like a crazy person this week.
00:02:45
Curt
Yeah. Try to catch up on everything.
00:02:46
jamie peacock
It's going to... Yeah, there's not that much to catch up on.
00:02:46
Curt
yeah yeah
00:02:49
jamie peacock
Just so need to get the machines on and get them running this morning. And then deal with bit of admin crap. You know, the normal fun stuff.
00:02:55
Curt
Yeah. saw you Yeah. I saw you running tool steel on the LK because it sounded wildly different.
00:03:03
jamie peacock
Dude, yeah. customer is like, hey, we're in a pinch, we need these 16 blocks. It's a block with holes, like literally a block with two holes. But all the K110 comes in saw cut.
00:03:14
jamie peacock
So there are no square faces on the K110 to start with.
00:03:19
Curt
Okay, okay.
00:03:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, so i put them in established datum. So I wrote program that would face ah it would face down, leave a million half or two miles whatever it was, park, you turn the block over reseated in the vase and then mills the other half sets your thickness.
00:03:34
jamie peacock
Then I put it between the device on those two faces that have now established a parallel and then set the machine, the back face, then turn it over machine the other face and the sides in one operation.
00:03:48
jamie peacock
So yeah annoying as hell, but got it got it all out.
00:03:49
Curt
Okay, yeah.
00:03:51
jamie peacock
And now i'm busy running in 19 condition T in the on the on the mechanical anchor points in the three jaw chuck like a good five, six inches above the interface of the anchor point.
00:04:01
Curt
Mm.
00:04:04
jamie peacock
but it's running fine.
Technical Challenges with Tool Steel
00:04:06
Curt
Nice. Good.
00:04:06
jamie peacock
So I was hogging the whole bunch tool steel, the machine can do it. I just, I don't want to because I don't want to ruin my machine.
00:04:14
Curt
Yeah, no fair. Yeah.
00:04:16
jamie peacock
Like I don't want to risk making everything else I do difficult.
00:04:21
Curt
Yeah, no doubt. Exactly. It's definitely way less...
00:04:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's the thing. Like, yeah, it was something I discussed with john last week is like, Do I just say to them, send the tool steel and just run LK flat out running tool steel for the next two or three months and then just go buy another machine cash?
00:04:38
jamie peacock
But I don't want to risk buying another machine that's not as good as the LK. And then I'm going um mean in a predicament where I'm now struggling to hold tolerance on everything else that I do.
00:04:51
Curt
Yeah, totally. and
00:04:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, so it's a bit of a, ah yeah, it's an interesting situation to be in.
00:04:59
Curt
There, yeah. I mean, least the machine is, like, it's built for it, but I don't know if it's built for it at a production speed, so.
00:05:07
jamie peacock
No, that's the thing I get you running a little bit slower because it's a 30 taper.
00:05:11
Curt
Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:12
jamie peacock
And with that I spoke to mar my mate at WD Hearns.
00:05:13
Curt
So.
00:05:15
jamie peacock
Now they quote on a BT30 spindle, not a BBT30 spindle. But I got a price on the LK spindle. I think he said it was $4,000 for new spindle.
00:05:22
Curt
Okay.
00:05:24
jamie peacock
Not horrid. Yeah,
00:05:27
Curt
Okay. That's not crazy. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah.
00:05:31
jamie peacock
I'll probably replace the spindle on the machine at some point anyway. um
00:05:34
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:05:35
jamie peacock
And then just keep this one as a spare. Because this one is definitely noisier than when I got it. But that's because I removed like a thousand pounds of steel with this machine in four days.
00:05:47
Curt
Mm. Mm. and Okay. Okay.
00:05:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:05:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:49
jamie peacock
Which will do it.
00:05:49
Curt
That would do it.
00:05:50
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, that'll that'll definitely do it.
00:05:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:52
jamie peacock
So, yeah. I do odd bits and pieces of tool steel on the machine, but this is the first. I don't like running um large material removal or squaring up fucking blocks on my machine. Squaring up blocks is just a waste of time. like You don't need to be doing that in a CNC.
00:06:08
jamie peacock
You need to be doing that on a big-ass horizontal mill that you just put the block and go... Yeah, that's how we used to do it at work.
00:06:15
Curt
Totally, yeah. yeah
00:06:18
jamie peacock
where I used to work, we had a guy, that's all he did was make flame cut blocks or saw cut blocks into squares.
00:06:25
Curt
Yeah, that'd be a perfect use for a manual machine, not yeah something that's...
00:06:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, and we had it set up with the key on it. So you would put the block on the on a riser plate square the end, turn it, push it against the key clamp it, machine it rotate, rotate, rotate that like made life super, super easy.
00:06:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:44
jamie peacock
um But obviously, I don't have space for one of those yet.
00:06:48
Curt
Fair. Yeah. Yeah. Probably don't want to do that work. That sounds like the definition of blow your brains out kind of simplicity.
00:06:55
jamie peacock
So, know, the thing is if the other machines are running, then go square a block up.
00:07:03
jamie peacock
It's, if it cuts a bunch of cycle time out of the high value machines, then yeah, sure, go square the block up. But yeah, we'll will see. I was told machine material would arrive pre squared.
00:07:03
Curt
Fair.
00:07:14
jamie peacock
It didn't. So yeah, i was a little bit, a little bit annoyed with them, but got the order out super quickly.
00:07:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:07:21
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, waiting. i'll have meeting I'm having a meeting with them this week, waiting for a quote on that second-hand machine down in Cape Town, that we can get the ball rolling because it is now the 11th, and I want to try and move into the new workspace in 20 days.
00:07:36
Curt
Okay, so you're looking to take possession of next month, essentially? Hmm.
00:07:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's the idea, but I don't know if we're going to get that right because people are dragging their feet. So, yeah, I'm going have a meeting with them probably today or tomorrow. be like, okay. what is the case? Let's work through this. Let's get it fucking done. And let's get that now that we can, we can plan and make the moves that need to be made.
00:07:58
jamie peacock
Because the unit we wanted that doesn't look like we can upgrade the power.
00:07:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:03
jamie peacock
So there is not enough power.
00:08:03
Curt
Ooh, okay. Okay.
00:08:04
jamie peacock
The other unit that we looked at is it was dingy as fuck. But looking online at that same unit's listing, it turns out we just don't turn the fucking lights on. So we will, I'm going to go have another look at it this week. It has enough power for now. It also has three phase plugs.
00:08:22
jamie peacock
So I don't have to do all the wiring. there's already wires run for a couple of the machines. ah The only concern is the doors are lower than the other doors.
00:08:28
Curt
Okay.
00:08:32
jamie peacock
So I'm just gonna have to take a tape measure and make sure the machine I'm sure the machines will go in. I just need to make sure it's not super low. Just compared to the other ones that are like three meter tall doors.
00:08:38
Curt
Sure.
00:08:41
jamie peacock
This is only a two and a half meter tall door.
00:08:44
Curt
Okay. Yeah, fair. Okay.
00:08:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, so we'll, we'll see. I'm going to go and have another look at those units and get the paperwork going on, on leasing a unit.
00:08:55
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:08:56
jamie peacock
Should be fun. ah got Lots of things. And then yeah, my, my mate who makes the the drones, he's, I was like, I spoke to a week or so ago. i'm like, hey, bre what's happening with the drones? like Oh, it goes on sale this week in the UK.
00:09:09
jamie peacock
Can you give me updated quotes?
00:09:10
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:09:11
jamie peacock
So i was like, yeah, sure. He has a quote for 10 crafts worth parts. um So we'll see if and when that actually comes through. And then that's getting spindle grip, all those little components. That's either salami sliced or spindle grip.
00:09:22
jamie peacock
Because it's like a couple minutes on each op one, and then it goes on to fixture and farm twos.
00:09:29
Curt
Yeah. Perfect.
00:09:30
jamie peacock
So spindle grip.
00:09:30
Curt
Perfect use of that. Yeah.
00:09:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, spindle grip, all the things.
00:09:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:34
jamie peacock
But yeah, so I'm trying to think.
00:09:35
Curt
Sick. Cool.
00:09:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, let's discuss the flux fast story.
00:09:44
Curt
ah So yeah, that was kind of cool. um So ah Master Ken reached out to me from, I think, Robertson Creations. i think that's what he's, one of his Instagram handles.
00:09:51
jamie peacock
Robeson's custom creations, yeah.
00:09:53
Curt
Robertson Custom Creations. um The guy who now hunts has the the flux vices.
00:09:54
jamie peacock
Yes. Yep.
00:09:58
Curt
actually wanted to buy a flux vice like forever ago. like way back in the day when they first came about and then they kind of just went away and now they're being revived, which is super cool. But anyways, he reached out and cause you have your lovely anchor point and he built a whole flux vice that drops right onto that.
00:10:14
Curt
So, uh, anyways, yeah, he, he, uh, asked if I would be, uh, be willing to try one. And i was like, I'll be willing to buy one from you like happily. Like, yeah, I, I would love one. So anyways, he was of the graciousness of himself.
00:10:25
Curt
He sent me a one to try here. Actually it's here tomorrow. According to us.
00:10:29
jamie peacock
Oh nice.
00:10:29
Curt
Oh, well, by the time you guys listen to this, it's I've already had it my hands.
00:10:31
jamie peacock
Yeah. They are joy.
00:10:32
Curt
So yeah, I'm super jazzed.
00:10:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:10:34
Curt
Uh, cause I was, I need like op one, like, and they're built perfectly for like, essentially like soft jaws is what they are. Um,
00:10:44
jamie peacock
of julia
00:10:45
Curt
Yeah, so, but my op ones are technically soft jaws because like, I'm just gonna, I think I'm gonna switch. a I'm switched from using square bar to round bar just because it's going to be a lot easier for a lot of things.
00:10:58
Curt
um But to op one them to put dovetails on them, I have to build either a pallet with vices on it or so anyways, this will solve that problem perfectly. And a bunch of other things. I have some kind of stupid ideas that I'm going to try to see if they actually work and we'll, we'll see. But yeah, anyways, I'm jazzed to get my hands on that.
00:11:17
Curt
The machining looks um from the pictures I've seen. They look fantastic. So yeah.
00:11:19
jamie peacock
looks insanely nice like I'm gonna feel bad machining into it like I feel really bad mis you to get to yeah um yes I that's actually machined on a mechanical anchor point yes
00:11:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:24
Curt
Yeah. That's what i was thinking too.
00:11:32
Curt
Hmm. That's a lot of stick out. That's that's a big chunk on there.
00:11:35
jamie peacock
Yes. So he's got mechanical number two. I sent it to him in January.
00:11:40
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:11:40
jamie peacock
Because he we discussed him potentially making the flex devices compatible with the anchor point and then sunsetting the flux puck.
00:11:41
Curt
Okay.
00:11:51
Curt
Oh, okay. I gotcha.
00:11:52
jamie peacock
So yeah I sent him the mechanical to play with and yeah he's been using apparently to machine these. So I've got some coming in on the
00:11:58
Curt
Cool.
00:12:01
Curt
Oh, cool. Yeah, I was wondering if you guys had a range. I figured you did, but nice.
00:12:05
jamie peacock
So I'm going to, I'll chat to him this week. I said to him, I will, if he wants, I'll make him idiot pins and just send him whole bunch of them. It's just a Delrin thing that you put in. So ah you saw the email he sent to that he's going to put four holes in the bottom so you can index the units.
00:12:17
jamie peacock
And then I've got them that you just put a Delrin pin with an O-ring into one of the holes as an idiot screw.
00:12:18
Curt
Right.
00:12:23
jamie peacock
But you can put any through the middle and pop it out and put it in a different spot if you want it for a different setup.
00:12:24
Curt
Gotcha.
00:12:29
Curt
Right, right, right, right. Exactly.
00:12:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I'll chat to him this week about just running 100 or so of them and sending them to him. Because, I mean, the material cost is nothing.
00:12:36
Curt
Cool.
00:12:38
jamie peacock
Like, I'll just run them and send them. And I know it's full compatibility with everything else.
00:12:44
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. No. So yeah. I don't know. I'm eager, eager to try that.
00:12:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, kind of cool.
00:12:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, so am I. I've got some stuff I want to try out on the Flex Shavas.
00:12:53
Curt
yeah Like, yeah, I'm, I'm happy that whole, that whole system has been revived.
00:12:55
jamie peacock
I think for your...
00:12:58
jamie peacock
And for your ah your fidget, that could potentially be a very good solution.
00:13:03
Curt
Yeah. That's ah exactly what came to mind.
00:13:06
jamie peacock
Like, yeah.
00:13:07
Curt
Yeah. And I was like, Ooh, cause yeah, if I have like, he sent it as far as I know, anyways, I haven't seen it yet. Um, but i think he's sending me two dual stations and that's essentially what I would buy, which is why was like, I don't mind compensating you cash wise because it's what I wanted initially.
00:13:17
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:23
Curt
Um, but yeah, then exactly. Load them up, plop one in, run them, unload, load the other one.
00:13:26
jamie peacock
And, no, perfect.
00:13:28
Curt
Yeah, exactly. It's a whole, whole, the whole reason we're doing this, right? Yeah.
00:13:32
jamie peacock
But yeah, we're gonna have to chat about what anchor point you're putting them on because I don't know how square the one you have is.
00:13:40
Curt
What do you mean square?
00:13:41
jamie peacock
Like to the base, but the pins to the base.
00:13:46
Curt
oh whatever. i I'm not figuring something out.
00:13:48
jamie peacock
Well, but yeah we'll discuss that.
00:13:49
Curt
Yeah, I'm not worried.
00:13:50
jamie peacock
I have solutions there.
00:13:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:51
jamie peacock
um So yeah, now i' I'm very keen to step back the machining on them looks so good. He sent me a picture like guy i think he he thinks he needs to turn the inserts.
00:13:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:01
jamie peacock
Turn the inserts frickin mirror.
00:14:03
Curt
ah ah Yeah, he's got a big machine there, so yeah.
00:14:04
jamie peacock
No, no, it's really like really nice. Yeah, well, he's got a bunch of machines. He was also using the the pneumatic anchor points to machine keycaps for the keyboard he's making.
00:14:15
Curt
Dude, don't. i I'm like a like cat with catnip in that.
00:14:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:20
Curt
Like, I've been following that closely because I'm like, dude.
00:14:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:23
Curt
And you've seen like the the cases or the bodies he made for like, they're so pretty.
00:14:26
jamie peacock
They're freaking beautiful.
00:14:28
Curt
I'm like, that's the last thing I need is to like fall deeper down that rabbit hole. But yeah, i've they're pretty.
00:14:32
jamie peacock
Yeah. That's why you bought a small machine.
00:14:34
Curt
They're very pretty.
00:14:34
jamie peacock
So you physically cannot machine a keyboard on your machine. at least not in one op.
00:14:39
Curt
Yeah, but like a machine keycap. Like, do you know how how many times I've tried to beat keycaps out of my head to be like, no, don't even think about machining. like, I want to for no other reason than I want to.
00:14:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:48
Curt
Like a little titanium keycaps and replace my entire keyboard. Of course, I'll do that. But no. you know Nice. Nice.
00:14:56
jamie peacock
Yes, aluminium keycaps.
00:14:56
Curt
Jamie showed me his keyboard.
00:14:57
jamie peacock
They've been on here for like seven years.
00:15:00
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:15:01
jamie peacock
Did those on the slow-eo back in the day.
00:15:04
Curt
like they' It's a nice part cause it's like a complicated enough part that it's intriguing to a machine. um but yeah, it's...
00:15:10
jamie peacock
Like it's a really, it's a really challenging part to reliably machine.
00:15:14
Curt
But yeah, yeah, you're working on a press fit on the inside and no so everything is sloped and curved and yeah.
00:15:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, yeah, it was it was fun back in the day.
00:15:21
Curt
Cool.
00:15:24
jamie peacock
These are just cherries. Like they're so outdated, it's not even funny.
00:15:28
jamie peacock
Like no one runs cherries anymore, Cherry MXs anymore.
00:15:28
Curt
yeah, yeah.
00:15:32
Curt
Hey, hey, some people do.
00:15:35
jamie peacock
No, mean, I'm running them. But no, I guess it's not the go to switch anymore. When I made these, it was like the only switch, which is, it's amazing how quickly that shit has evolved.
00:15:39
Curt
No, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:15:46
Curt
Yeah, no doubt. um what's ah What's fast food automation?
00:15:48
jamie peacock
So what's the next
00:15:54
jamie peacock
Oh, so I went to McDonald's the other day.
00:15:57
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:15:58
jamie peacock
ah Remember I got the timer for my Anno setup. The fancy, fancy or digital kitchen timer. You can't get them here.
00:16:05
Curt
Yep, yep.
Innovations in Food Automation
00:16:06
jamie peacock
The reason you can't get them here is because our people are so illiterate that they don't use kitchen timers in fast food places.
00:16:06
Curt
Okay.
00:16:12
jamie peacock
Everything is automated. So I was waiting for my order and I looked into the kitchen and they were cooking burgers.
00:16:15
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:16:19
jamie peacock
Do you know how they cook burgers in South Africa?
00:16:22
Curt
No.
00:16:22
jamie peacock
they've got the griddle, they put down all the the flat fryer thing, they put down the patties and they push a button on the front a along little touch screen to say what flavor of burger it is.
00:16:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:33
jamie peacock
And the second half comes down and cooks from both sides. When it's done, it lifts up, they put salt and fucking spice and shit.
00:16:38
Curt
Okay.
00:16:41
jamie peacock
And then they put them in the trays. Like they don't even flip the fucking burgers automatic by themselves.
00:16:47
Curt
Wow. Wow.
00:16:48
jamie peacock
Now, if you go into any fast food place, that you'll hear beeping, like really annoying beeping. So all like fries, they put the basket in the thing, it dispenses fries, they put it in, they push the f fries button, and then it beeps when it's done.
00:17:01
jamie peacock
Like deep fried chicken whatever, it's a high pressure fryer.
00:17:01
Curt
Sure, yeah.
00:17:06
jamie peacock
When it's done, it automatically lifts out of the oil. Like everything is automated.
00:17:11
Curt
Hmm. Interesting.
00:17:12
jamie peacock
And like you'll go and you'll look into the kitchen, you'll see it says they're 66 piece. That's how many pieces of chicken on the tray. So it cooks it for the right amount of time. Like everything is super automated here like the guys load the thing hit the right button and it just it does it automatically.
00:17:28
jamie peacock
Because that way you can't fuck it up.
00:17:28
Curt
I'm going to have to No, totally. going have to go check out like our fast food chain. I'm usually going through the drive-thru where I never get to see, but I should go in and see because I wonder like it would make way more sense to do it all that way because yeah, remove human error out of it.
00:17:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:17:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, like all the places are super automated.
00:17:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:44
jamie peacock
Like the only one that I can think of that isn't that automated is Nando's. And that's because it's freaking flame grilled chicken. You can't really automate that.
00:17:52
Curt
No, fair. Okay.
00:17:53
jamie peacock
Like they basting and like cooking the chicken on the fire.
00:17:53
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:57
jamie peacock
But all the other ones, they've got, there's always beep, beep, beep, beep going on because someone put something in and forgot to take it out.
00:17:57
Curt
Sure.
00:18:04
Curt
Hmm.
00:18:04
jamie peacock
No, go.
00:18:04
Curt
Wild, yeah.
00:18:05
jamie peacock
Let's see. Yeah, like even the the deep fries, they've got settings for hash browns for fries. a Whatever the hell they're putting in there, they push the right button, cooks for the right time and it beeps at them.
00:18:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:16
jamie peacock
So it was interesting to see that they cooked a burger from both sides.
00:18:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:20
jamie peacock
What a magic like burger King, they literally dropped the burger patty onto a ah wire conveyor, and it rolls through the oven and falls out the bottom.
00:18:30
Curt
Oh, right.
00:18:30
jamie peacock
like elements.
00:18:30
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:30
jamie peacock
or but yeah That's how they do the the burgers here for them.
00:18:31
Curt
Yeah, yeah. Yep.
00:18:35
jamie peacock
Debena's pizza, they've got a rolling pizza oven. So they prep the pizza, throw it on the conveyor and it conveys through, comes out there and the guy starts to put in the box.
00:18:45
Curt
i I went to a hotel once and they had an automatic pancake machine. like so you would just go there and you would hit like, pancake. And it was it was ah just a robot on the counter and it would squirt some ah batter onto a con conveyor belt.
00:18:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:18:58
Curt
And it was like a, I don't know what material, um but they had hot plates under it. And the conveyor belt would go along and you'd see the pancakes start to cook. And then another k conveyor belt kind of tapered in. So it would squish the top.
00:19:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:09
Curt
And it was also must have had an element behind it.
00:19:09
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah.
00:19:11
Curt
So it cooked it from both sides. And by the time it got to the end of the can conveyor belt, you know, like maybe... a minute and a half later just boop followed on your plate and it was just it was kind of wild to you'd be like pancake pancake pancake pancake and just like boom boom boom book book they were terrible they didn't really taste that good but still it was it it was cool that you automated it yeah yeah
00:19:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:20
jamie peacock
That's cool.
00:19:25
jamie peacock
Well, that's the conveyor, the toast conveyor is the best way to make toast the exact wrong way. Like it never, at like it never, ever, ever makes it correctly.
00:19:38
jamie peacock
Like, ever. It's either like an undercooked or burnt. Like, there is no correct on that thing.
00:19:43
Curt
Okay. Anybody listening to this? I've had this idea for a thousand years. I'm probably never going to build it. Build a clear toaster, a toaster with like, like sides made out of like glass.
00:19:51
jamie peacock
You can...
00:19:51
Curt
So you can look at your toast as it's cooking. Like you can look past the elements and see like, Oh, is it black?
00:19:55
jamie peacock
I think my brother has one.
00:19:57
Curt
I always thought about doing that.
00:19:57
jamie peacock
I've seen one.
00:19:59
Curt
And then having like, have,
00:19:59
jamie peacock
I've seen one here.
00:20:01
Curt
Well, having like ah like a photo cell, so like you put your toast in and it already checks the toast so it knows if it's like whole wheat or white.
00:20:05
jamie peacock
Oh, dude. Man.
00:20:07
Curt
And then once you put it down, then it just cooks it to a shade. And then pop, like that's what I want. I would pay good money for that toaster. Anyway, someone go make it.
00:20:14
jamie peacock
ah There's a toaster that did that. um Technology connections.
00:20:20
Curt
Okay, I'll have to check this out.
00:20:21
jamie peacock
Also, when you put the bread in, the toast went down by itself.
00:20:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:26
jamie peacock
The mechanism relied on the elements. As the elements heated up, they expanded and the toast would lower.
00:20:26
Curt
Yeah, yeah, perfect.
00:20:33
Curt
Oh, wild. Cool.
00:20:34
jamie peacock
And it had used ah it used an IR sensor.
00:20:34
Curt
Okay.
00:20:36
jamie peacock
to The knob actually set the brownness of the toast.
00:20:40
Curt
Yeah, that's what I want. Exactly.
00:20:41
jamie peacock
And that's from the nineteen fifty s
00:20:44
Curt
It's not hard. Like, I don't think it's that difficult. I mean, no one wants to pay $500 for a toaster.
00:20:46
jamie peacock
No. The problem is it's expensive. Yeah.
00:20:49
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:49
jamie peacock
It's expensive. of It's like $120 instead of $100.
00:20:54
Curt
Yeah, I get it.
00:20:54
jamie peacock
yeah, ill we'll put a link for that that video. do Really interesting video on how the mechanism works and that the knob is actually for brownness, shot and not just whatever random fucking thing the knob does on the toaster.
00:21:06
Curt
Nice. Nice. Yeah.
00:21:06
jamie peacock
Because I have no idea what the knob on the toaster actually does.
00:21:07
Curt
Okay. So,
00:21:11
Curt
uh, no, I just, yeah, mine either burns a toaster. Yeah. Anyways, besides point next week, I'm going to be changing my business to making toasters.
00:21:15
jamie peacock
You have
00:21:17
Curt
Apparently so.
00:21:20
jamie peacock
Kurt's Toaster Emporium.
00:21:22
Curt
Dude. Yeah. that Anyway, not trained enthusiasts at all.
00:21:26
jamie peacock
would got that was up So, yeah, you said you're switching to Roundstock.
00:21:31
Curt
let's uh yes um so because i i've been on my walks i've been thinking about yeah your little uh flux vise and then i was like well i'm like i can buy round stock for cheaper um which also kind of gets around having to grip such a small dovetail so i can use like what's your minimum right now think you made a 10 mil yeah so i'm like i think i could probably use 10 mil and then like or at least have the dovetail 10 mil sized and then make my life easier and then the cool thing is i can do the blanking of the round bar
00:21:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:46
jamie peacock
Yes. Yes. The 10mm is what's standard on there now.
00:21:55
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:22:00
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:22:00
Curt
in the lathe because the lathe is a great automated piece of equipment as opposed to me on a bandsaw or any kind of bandsaw unless it's like an auto feeder but like I just fit a bar into the lathe and so I'm like m this is making more and more sense so
00:22:03
jamie peacock
Yes. Exactly.
00:22:15
jamie peacock
That's definitely the way to go. Round stock for pots is way easier to get. Yeah.
00:22:22
Curt
oh it's cheaper it's easier it's yeah it's everything so
00:22:26
jamie peacock
The world is made for round stock.
00:22:28
Curt
The world is made on round bar. Yeah. So going to switch, switch over to it and then we'll see.
00:22:30
jamie peacock
Yeah. Nice.
00:22:33
Curt
So I think I'll do one more order of my flat bar and then I'm going to buy, uh, I'm going I honestly probably already have a size that it'll fit into for round bar.
00:22:34
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:22:40
jamie peacock
That'll work, yeah.
00:22:41
Curt
Yeah. And then I'm go to move forward with that.
00:22:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:45
Curt
So we'll see if that works. Should. I don't see why I wouldn't.
00:22:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:49
Curt
So.
00:22:50
jamie peacock
No, 100%.
00:22:58
Curt
Reading things on the podcast.
00:23:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, reading. There we go. So, which which is the next thing we are doing?
00:23:03
Curt
allah ah Tell me about ah the pneumatic, excuse me, the pneumatic vice update.
00:23:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, just emailed them. We'll see if I can update during the podcast. It should have shipped yesterday. um
00:23:18
Curt
Ooh, okay.
00:23:19
jamie peacock
Yes, it should finally be fucking shipping. um And then I can start playing with actual spindle gripping. So I had ah had a chat to Matt last week about trays. So busy designing out all the tray stuff.
00:23:31
jamie peacock
So we had a discussion about different different options for trays and best practices and things like that. So we shall see. But yeah, quite excited.
00:23:41
Curt
Cool.
00:23:41
jamie peacock
Like, I want to put everything on spindle gripping.
00:23:45
Curt
Yeah, I mean, it looks it looks like the silver bullet once it's functioning well.
00:23:49
jamie peacock
once yeah Once it's set up and running, I think it is going to be the way the way forward.
00:23:49
Curt
so
00:23:54
jamie peacock
So yeah, he had some recommendations for me. So we had a chat about all those recommendations. Going to implement that. And then, yeah, um just I'm just waiting on the vase. Like, I need to make a pallet for vase next time I'm set up to make pallets.
00:24:05
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, waiting for the pallet.
00:24:09
Curt
Cool.
00:24:09
jamie peacock
Oh, waiting for the vase, sorry.
00:24:10
Curt
Cool.
00:24:10
jamie peacock
um I've got materials set aside to make soft jaws for the vase. Although the hard jaws are serrated on it, so... um But I'm going to make set of soft jaws because obviously I'm going to want to load something that's a stupid shape into it at some point.
00:24:18
Curt
Oh, nice. Okay.
00:24:25
Curt
Right.
00:24:26
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
00:24:27
Curt
Yeah. Cool. And is that vice, ah is it like ah like manually adjustable and then pneumatic close for like a millimeter or two or...
00:24:36
jamie peacock
No. No, so it's... um The top of it has got serrations like a hydraulic chuck on a lathe. So the jaws can move like in one millimeter increments and then they bolt down and then it's got a four millimeter travel.
00:24:46
Curt
m
00:24:50
Curt
Gotcha.
00:24:53
jamie peacock
ah ah I believe that's per jaw, but I'm not sure.
00:24:54
Curt
Okay, okay.
00:24:57
jamie peacock
I'll see when it actually arrives.
00:24:57
Curt
Okay. Same kind of deal. You can set it to roughly what you need and then just...
00:25:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:02
Curt
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
00:25:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, and then it just opens closes a little bit. um Yeah, so that's, yeah, I'm quite excited for that. And then, waiting to hear back on the other job where they want to do, allegedly, 400,000 clamps that they want to modify.
00:25:19
jamie peacock
But that yeah that's going on the slow. So then I'm going to put flood coolants on the slow. Leave a single tool because it's a one tool job and then make a little spindle gripper that goes on the side of the head of the spindle so I can deploy it down below the tool, grip my part, load my part, retract it, machine the part, deploy it again so that I'm not having to do any tool changes because I don't want to do 400,000 tool changes on the LK for no reason.
00:25:43
Curt
what what is the part if you can describe it because that seems like a super high quantity
00:25:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, so it's a clamp for a fence. So they have a wire, like a wire mesh that they are welded wire a mesh, and then they powder coat it and it goes, this is the clamp that holds it to the poles.
00:25:59
Curt
Oh, okay. Okay. This adds up.
00:26:00
jamie peacock
I've got a customer who manufactures these they they make like hundreds of 1000s of these a month.
00:26:01
Curt
Okay.
00:26:04
jamie peacock
um And I was like, why don't you just get a custom extrusion that it's not worth the effort. act supply train Like chain, supply chain reliability, it is not worth the effort to try and have a different extrusion made.
00:26:11
Curt
Really?
00:26:17
jamie peacock
Because I'm just um literally a different extrusion would solve this problem. ah It's just not worth it. The supply chain complexity of doing that, we can take what they have, finished components on the shelf, they bring them to me, I machine them and they go out.
00:26:30
jamie peacock
like It's a much simpler solution. So like, okay, fair enough. I don't mind taking a whole bunch of money.
00:26:34
Curt
Sure, yeah.
00:26:35
jamie peacock
um the jealous But yeah, we'll just get set up to run that automatically.
00:26:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:39
jamie peacock
But only problem is you can only do, I think it was like 180 parts at a time or something.
00:26:45
Curt
Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:26:46
jamie peacock
So we'll have to, but then um I've got an anchor point here that is NFG. So I will just use that as the as the tray holder so that I can load a tray outside the machine. As soon as it stops, you swap trays, hit go, and it carries on.
00:27:00
jamie peacock
but
00:27:01
Curt
Yeah, still a lot of trace swaps.
00:27:02
jamie peacock
Shouldn't be.
00:27:05
Curt
That's a lot of everything.
00:27:05
jamie peacock
Yes, but I don't have to do this. I can have a call or a ah cheaper employee you do it. I don't have to do it.
00:27:14
Curt
Sure. Yeah, sure.
00:27:15
jamie peacock
And if the machine can just be kept running all day and shitting parts out, fucking winning.
00:27:20
Curt
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, yeah.
00:27:22
jamie peacock
So we'll work on that when we actually get the order. I've got the pneumatics here for it now, but when the actual order comes through, i build all the components. Because the pneumatics were cheap. It was like $30 worth of pneumatics. was just like, fucking order it.
00:27:34
Curt
Yeah. Add it to the box of industrial Lego, if not.
00:27:38
jamie peacock
Exactly, exactly.
00:27:38
Curt
okay
00:27:39
jamie peacock
So yeah, the grip and the pneumatics are sitting on my desk in the office.
00:27:43
Curt
Sick.
00:27:43
jamie peacock
So I'll design the stuff up and then when I need to I'll make it.
00:27:44
Curt
Fun.
00:27:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:48
Curt
Nice, nice.
00:27:49
jamie peacock
Yes. Tell me about your jewel wielding of stores.
00:27:51
Curt
So...
00:27:54
jamie peacock
yes um tell me about your jewel widing of stores
00:28:00
Curt
So that I didn't know why I didn't think about this for a million years ago.
Managing Online Stores
00:28:04
Curt
Whenever I put a lottery sale on, I ah essentially have to password protect the store, which means nobody can access the store except people that have passwords, which is fine when I don't have anything on the store.
00:28:09
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:28:15
Curt
But right now I had like, I mean i threw a bunch of those stickers online um and I sold, I sold a gang of them. which also means I was like, well, over the weekend, I don't want to shut my store down just to have the lottery people access it and lose out on like potentially people just stumbling across my site and being like, hey, these are dumb. And then let's like throw some cash my way. Like, why would I try to? Anyways, I realized I can run two stores on my site, um which I didn't. I can run like 400 stores on my site, apparently.
00:28:42
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:28:42
Curt
So it gets weird because like I can use the same SKUs, but they don't impact. Like they're actually like two totally separate listings, which...
00:28:50
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:28:52
Curt
i don't I don't do tracking of like, I do, but like I'm only ever tracking on one side or the other. I wouldn't ever have two stores open selling the same product.
00:28:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:00
Curt
So it works for me, but like it could get really, really convoluted because you can name everything identical and then you can't, you can't differentiate what they are.
00:29:06
jamie peacock
Oh, God. Yeah, then you...
00:29:07
Curt
So i was like, oh
00:29:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:09
Curt
So anyways, I just have it.
00:29:09
jamie peacock
That could get really tricky.
00:29:11
Curt
Yeah, I have it. So like the VIP, I haven't called a VIP store cause I had call it something. Um, so that that's a login store that has like the pens on it that are in this batch and then all the other crap that people can buy. Um, and then the normal store has everything on it. Um, so anyways, that worked out super, super well.
00:29:28
Curt
And, uh,
00:29:29
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:29:30
Curt
Yeah, I was... And it's the weird thing is, like, you can add to the cart from either store, and it still coalesces them together. So it just... Yeah, there's there's so many weird places where it could get messed up, but yeah, it seems to work well.
00:29:36
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:29:40
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:41
Curt
No one's no one's yelled at me yet, so...
00:29:41
jamie peacock
Okay. So the VIP guys can still buy stuff from the pleb store, but the pleb store can't buy from the VIP store.
00:29:47
Curt
Totally. um The one problem is, like, I was having issues with, like, shipping, because it doesn't... For, like, the stickers, for instance, that I'm selling, I sell at a lower shipping rate. But...
00:29:57
Curt
it won't recognize like if someone buys a pen and then buy stickers it it won't recognize that it has to change the shipping rate and they'll just combine them so it's it kind of but by separating the stores i could kind of do it like anyone on the vip side is probably going to buy a pen so i just i made the shipping the same because i'm like if you're gonna buy if you're gonna go to the vip store and buy stickers like why like you want a password you're there for a reason so it should work out but should We'll see. Yeah.
00:30:25
Curt
I don't know. I just like, no, so no, like online sales system is like perfect. And I've been meaning to switch, but then some people tell me horror stories about what they have. So it's just like, yeah, I, the devil I know. So anyways, it's working.
00:30:36
jamie peacock
no 100% no 100% yes speaking of online stores there are new shirts available um
00:30:42
Curt
Oh, haven't even checked out yet.
00:30:42
jamie peacock
And jspng.com, yes, there's a really spiffy one. So yeah, just thought I'd shout that out quickly. There are new shirts available there. ah And the shirts proceeds are going towards IMG as well.
00:30:55
Curt
hu When you Google Jspec engineering and you're like the little Google box that shows like, you know, like the website and some pictures or whatever, it shows like your fluk.
00:31:02
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:05
Curt
ah And then it shows, um it shows like a butt plug, not a butt plug, but like the thing you turn that looks like a butt plug.
00:31:11
jamie peacock
Oh, the egg, yeah, yeah.
00:31:13
Curt
Yeah, the egg.
00:31:14
jamie peacock
Nice, I like it.
00:31:15
Curt
So, yeah, that's awesome. Ooh, back catalog. Whoa, we there's been changes.
00:31:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, Danica put all the shirts back up. So any shirt we've sold is now available on the website now.
00:31:23
Curt
Oh.
00:31:25
Curt
Oh, and there's the there's a pie chart shirt. Perfect.
00:31:29
jamie peacock
It's called the JG shirt.
00:31:32
Curt
ah The JG.
00:31:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, the Justin Gray shirt.
00:31:36
Curt
nice ah Nice. Nice.
00:31:39
jamie peacock
You need to read what it says on the JG shirt.
00:31:39
Curt
Nice. Oh.
00:31:41
jamie peacock
It's freaking great.
00:31:42
Curt
yeah
00:31:42
jamie peacock
ah
00:31:43
Curt
have to I have to zoom in closer. My eyes are not what they ever have been. Oh, my God. That's awesome, dude.
00:31:51
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, it's brilliant. But yeah, don't read it out.
00:31:53
Curt
that
00:31:53
jamie peacock
People can go look at it.
00:31:54
Curt
No, no, I'm not.
00:31:54
jamie peacock
There will be a link in the doobly-doo.
00:31:55
Curt
good
00:31:56
jamie peacock
But yeah, all the old shirts also available now.
00:31:56
Curt
Go check it out, folks.
00:31:59
jamie peacock
So go check it out.
00:32:00
Curt
Cool.
00:32:01
jamie peacock
john ah T-shirts. And then, yeah, speaking of shirts, um Zap reached out to me. He's like, Hey, here's a code to grab some shirts.
00:32:08
Curt
Cool, okay.
00:32:10
jamie peacock
And, uh, they don't, they they don't fu fulfill to South Africa.
00:32:15
Curt
Oh, bummer.
00:32:15
jamie peacock
Yeah. So I'm gonna have them sent to, uh, to Jacob after his wedding. And then I've got a parcel waiting there anyway. I've got some Mesa cards.
00:32:25
Curt
Did he... Because he has, a I think, the shirt, the Just Cut.
00:32:29
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:32:30
Curt
Does he have the one with the the modifier in between it? The Just Fucking Cut?
00:32:34
jamie peacock
Yes, it does.
00:32:36
Curt
Sick. Okay, cool. I didn't know if he made that one.
00:32:37
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:32:38
Curt
i've I've seen the Just Cut one, but I haven't seen the illicit version, so...
00:32:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, he has the lizard version and he's also got go forth and crush with two robots fighting with lightsabers.
00:32:47
Curt
Sick.
00:32:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, so freaking sweet.
00:32:49
Curt
Sick. Cool.
00:32:49
jamie peacock
and all I'll get those sent to Jacob, Jacob, Jacob.
00:32:50
Curt
Sick.
00:32:52
jamie peacock
And then he's got some Racer cards that got sent through there for me. So yeah, I'll get that shipped through.
00:32:57
Curt
Oh, cool. Nice.
00:32:59
jamie peacock
Not that I plan on doing retrofits anymore.
00:33:03
jamie peacock
I was very annoyed with customers this week. It's like you do something nice and you just get fucked. So I'm kind of getting over being helpful.
00:33:11
Curt
Yeah, there.
00:33:12
jamie peacock
So anyway, but speaking of things that are helpful, we have Patreons and they make the wheels on the train go round and round.
00:33:13
Curt
I get it.
00:33:17
Curt
Ooh.
00:33:21
jamie peacock
The patrons all get access to the after show where Kurt and I discuss things that we generally don't discuss in the podcast, super secret topics and things like that. um All the patron contributions are going towards getting us to i or getting me and a cardboard cutout to IMTS.
00:33:37
jamie peacock
because Kurt's lame. um
00:33:39
Curt
Dude, yeah.
00:33:39
jamie peacock
But the top tier patrons will get a shout out every week. And that list this week is Jade from Benchmark20, Luke from Fabtastic, AJ from Subtract Manufacturing and 41 other companies, Jason S, EJ from Nocturnal Welding, The Aussie Machinist, Christian Olsen, Charles Watt, Kyle from Kirsten Machine, Matt from Offworld Gear, who's doing some really cool analyzing, Alex B, John from Tourism Performance and Engine Tricks, and Matt from Modern Fuel.
00:34:02
jamie peacock
Thank you guys for making the wheels on the train spin. And yeah, well, see you in the off show and back to the podcast. Kurt is very still or his video is frozen? I'm not entirely sure, yes.
00:34:14
Curt
I should be good. You see me moving now?
00:34:16
jamie peacock
Ah, Mr.
00:34:17
Curt
i
00:34:18
jamie peacock
Roboto.
00:34:20
Curt
Oh no, is it roboting? Well, you know what? They won't notice. Just you will notice because...
00:34:25
jamie peacock
Okay, now we're back with Kurt, not Mr. Roboto.
00:34:28
Curt
Yeah, that actually was my fault. I was throwing you under the bus when you couldn't hear me, but it was it was on me.
00:34:32
jamie peacock
Ah, what did you
00:34:33
Curt
So yeah, carrying on.
00:34:34
jamie peacock
What did you do?
00:34:35
Curt
I just said this is probably Jamie's internet, but it it apparently was my internet.
00:34:38
jamie peacock
Ah, that could have been.
00:34:39
Curt
So yeah, it someone's.
00:34:40
jamie peacock
Who knows? Someone's incident was giving ah giving issues.
00:34:45
Curt
Yes.
00:34:45
jamie peacock
So, I see you updated my one topic.
00:34:45
Curt
ah ah Yeah. why Why do you have ah bi-curious feelings about my haircut?
00:34:49
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:34:54
jamie peacock
No, I don't have bycurious feelings. I was offended you changed your hair. hate when things change. You know, train enthusiast and whatnot.
00:34:59
Curt
ah Sorry, dude.
00:35:01
jamie peacock
I saw your story. I'm like, he cut his hair. Later.
00:35:04
jamie peacock
Later.
00:35:04
Curt
It was getting pretty long, so
00:35:06
jamie peacock
I know it was. It was getting wild. But yeah, know. I don't like change. Change sucks.
00:35:12
Curt
didn't i had a cut for like three weeks okay
00:35:16
jamie peacock
I saw a story and then I noticed.
00:35:19
Curt
okay i was like i've been talking for like we've been talking for hours and i've had many hours so far anyway besides the point uh okay tell me about uh uh are we going roboto again
00:35:20
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's Instagram story.
00:35:32
jamie peacock
I'm very curious as to which side is going Mr. Roboto here.
00:35:39
Curt
ah
00:35:42
jamie peacock
Okay, we're back from another Mr. Roboto session.
00:35:45
Curt
Yeah, I have no idea what's going on now.
00:35:45
jamie peacock
I don't think we've had, we haven't had this many technical issues in like a year.
00:35:50
Curt
Well, no, and it's usually because like lions have bit your internet connection or something over there.
00:35:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:54
Curt
But yeah, this one seems to be on my end, which is insane because I have stupid internet here. But hey, maybe maybe a bunch of people are Zooming their mothers tonight or something.
00:35:59
jamie peacock
Yeah. Anyway.
00:36:03
Curt
I don't know.
00:36:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, probably actually.
00:36:05
Curt
hu Maybe, yeah. ah Tell me about um butt plugs.
00:36:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:10
jamie peacock
ah Yes, Kayleigh's Cairns put out a video, someone commissioned her to make a a bean with a flared base. So we discussed a few weeks ago, she made the bean.
00:36:18
Curt
okay
00:36:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, someone commissioned to make it with a flared base.
00:36:22
Curt
Sick.
00:36:23
jamie peacock
So she made, yeah, she made the bean. There's a link for that in the in the description. Actually, I saw the video yesterday, i didn't get a chance to watch it. And the day before yesterday, I went and watched it quickly before we started recording. But yeah, she's turning a grade two CP titanium butt plug effectively.
00:36:33
Curt
Nice.
00:36:39
jamie peacock
But it it hasn't graded when they're not for rectal use.
00:36:39
Curt
Right on.
00:36:41
jamie peacock
So is it really a butt plug?
00:36:42
Curt
Oh, yeah, that'll definitely stop people from using it that manner.
00:36:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:46
jamie peacock
100%. Yeah. So she turned them and anode them. Quite cool. Cool video. enjoy the stupid little short form things.
00:36:53
Curt
My...
00:36:56
Curt
I... So do I. It's my favorite.
00:36:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:58
Curt
Yeah. I like...
00:37:00
jamie peacock
Speaking of short form things, I put a shop tour up on Instagram.
00:37:04
Curt
Yes, I watched that one. Yes, I liked it.
00:37:05
jamie peacock
Yes. I shot it in horizontal as well. Danik hasn't edited it for me yet for YouTube.
00:37:12
Curt
Cool.
00:37:12
jamie peacock
So I was running around with the gimbal recording. ah But yeah, just is a quick shop tour before we move, just that I have documentation of what the place was like before we did the move.
00:37:22
Curt
Nice. Cool. Yeah. It was cozy. Everything is very cozy.
00:37:25
jamie peacock
Yes, it is very cozy. ah But yeah, I just thought I'd quickly shoot that the other morning before I turn the machines on, because once the machine's gone, it gets loud in there.
00:37:35
Curt
Yeah. Fair.
00:37:36
jamie peacock
Like, annoyingly so. But, uh...
00:37:39
Curt
You are also the only person I know that cranks out like great quality product, a timely person.
00:37:40
jamie peacock
Chaos. Yeah, that is chaos.
00:37:45
Curt
From what I understand, from like the interactions we have, you seem like you're on schedule. You never miss time. Like, and your your workplace is madness. It's just like there's stuff everywhere. And I'm like, how does Jamie do?
00:37:57
Curt
Like, my brain would explode, but ah everyone's wired different.
00:37:59
jamie peacock
So that's one of the things with with bringing Carl on is he tends to be quite neat because my cousin's a neat freak. So he tends clean up and whatnot.
00:38:07
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:38:09
jamie peacock
So that's one of the things of bringing him on. It'll kind of keep things a little neater in the workshop.
00:38:17
Curt
I mean, don't fix what isn't broke. Obviously it works fine for you.
00:38:20
jamie peacock
ah But I also spend way too much time looking for things I know I own.
00:38:20
Curt
So there's no worries.
00:38:24
Curt
Okay. Fair.
00:38:24
jamie peacock
That's my favorite game.
00:38:25
Curt
Okay.
00:38:25
jamie peacock
I had i had the Allen key in my hand like two minutes ago, and now I cannot fucking find this. um I don't like playing that game.
00:38:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:33
jamie peacock
It really frustrates me. So yeah, having Carl there will hopefully sort that out because he likes to keep shit neat.
00:38:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:39
jamie peacock
So we'll see.
00:38:40
Curt
Fair.
00:38:41
jamie peacock
that's We've got to get contracts in place this next coming two weeks because he's back on the 24th. Yeah, he lost out on ah on an order because he's going on honeymoon.
00:38:52
Curt
Oh, I mean, that's ah that's a tough of argument.
00:38:53
jamie peacock
And yeah, did not a small order either, like just over $5,000.
00:38:58
Curt
Oh, okay. Pay for the...
00:39:01
jamie peacock
Yeah,
00:39:03
Curt
Ooh. So I'd probably pay for the honeymoon easily, yeah. Oh.
00:39:07
jamie peacock
he doesn't know the total value yet. He'll find out when he gets back. of the order you missed.
00:39:10
Curt
Oh,
00:39:11
jamie peacock
But yeah, they were like, hey, do you have a tailstock? He's like, yes. Like, are you available? He's like, no So I went and spoke to the customer and I was like, they had to get the work done.
00:39:17
Curt
whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:39:20
jamie peacock
I can't do it. I don't have tailstock. So that'll come around. Next time the order comes around, it comes around every like two or three months. When it comes around again, it comes to us. Like my customer at this point is so desperate to not deal with the vendor they're dealing with um that they're going to literally put a machine down in a workshop for us to run their parts.
00:39:28
Curt
Well, whatever.
00:39:40
Curt
That's some savage level of hate. Yeah.
00:39:42
jamie peacock
They literally helped the guy. um the The guy used to be an employee for them and then started doing stuff on the side that he's like, he wants to go do his thing on the side. like Okay, cool. Buy the machine off of us. Take it. Just do our work.
00:39:56
jamie peacock
And they do. But now they send him stuff and then he's prioritizing other people's work. Like they're doing a good, um
00:40:05
jamie peacock
between $12,000 and $20,000 a month with them. And he's prioritizing other people's work over theirs. And they're like, dude, We get like you just assume the work is coming from us.
00:40:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:16
jamie peacock
So well, guess what? Now it's not.
00:40:19
Curt
Yeah. Don't bite the hand. Yeah.
00:40:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, so we're going to take on all of that. tool steal. But like they literally drop off. Here's all the steal for the die set. Here's the drawings. Make it and just invoice us.
00:40:31
Curt
Well, and like you said, if it's that much work, buy a machine specific for that.
00:40:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:35
Curt
Just let it go. Yeah.
00:40:36
jamie peacock
100%. Yeah, buy machine for that. And then I've still got all my own product line stuff cooking. Like that's the don't want to give up any of the stuff I'm currently doing to do that. So I want to add that.
00:40:45
Curt
Sure.
00:40:46
jamie peacock
I mean, it's blocks with fucking holes. Throw it through toolpath and hit go.
00:40:51
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
00:40:52
jamie peacock
And that's the whole thing. I want to make programming this stuff as quick as possible and as reliable as possible that I can just push it through toolpath, send it to the machine and hit go and not really worry.
00:41:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:03
jamie peacock
We're not trying to break any speed records. um And then I can carry on i have the LK running my own product lines.
00:41:10
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah. no Seems logical.
00:41:11
jamie peacock
that's product lines are where it's at.
00:41:14
Curt
Yeah, I tend to agree. but
00:41:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, but job shop work also brings in money when products are being developed.
00:41:22
Curt
Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, no, exactly.
00:41:25
jamie peacock
So which one do you want?
00:41:27
Curt
I
00:41:28
jamie peacock
You can choose which one of yours you want to cover.
00:41:31
Curt
was just saying, you have a fancy kitchen. i saw your...
00:41:33
jamie peacock
I don't have a fancy kitchen.
00:41:35
jamie peacock
That's the outdoors kitchen.
00:41:35
Curt
Oh, is it someone...
00:41:37
Curt
Oh, okay. I was like, oh, that's, I'm like, like I, I see like your house a little bit and I just kind of assume in my head what it looks like.
00:41:38
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:41:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:44
Curt
And I'm like, Ooh, it's all like, it's just a very different aesthetic. I'm like, Oh, I didn't know that was Jamie's style.
00:41:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, so, so my kitchen in this house is solid oak from like 40 years ago. Like, old, job yeah.
00:41:53
Curt
Okay. That sounds about right. Yeah. That's what I pictured. Yeah.
00:41:56
jamie peacock
My mother-in-law did that 40 fucking years ago. Then when she renovated the cottage, she wanted modern. So she went for the aesthetic of the modern kitchen, which Danik and I built all their cabinetry in like one evening.
00:42:06
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:42:09
jamie peacock
I ordered it, like I designed it all in CAD.
00:42:10
Curt
Oh, wow.
00:42:12
jamie peacock
Well, all the standard size units, ordered them all from a place in Pantown, like a five six hour drive away, had it shipped up here. And then literally in one evening, Danik and I assembled all the cabinetry.
00:42:23
Curt
Oh, nice. Oh, looks looks really nice.
00:42:24
jamie peacock
It's all flat back. You just snap it together.
00:42:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:25
jamie peacock
And then, we did that three, four years ago. And then she redid the whole cottage. And then, yeah, we' we're using it because it's got a big island for baking. It's much better than our kitchen.
00:42:38
Curt
Yeah, it's huge.
00:42:38
jamie peacock
Our kitchen's counters are also narrower.
00:42:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:41
jamie peacock
They're like 520 mils, not 600. So they're like a stupid size to match the cabinetry of the day.
00:42:45
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:42:48
jamie peacock
So we are like a really short of table space in our kitchen. Or counter space.
00:42:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, so our kitchen's old as fuck.
00:42:55
Curt
I.
00:42:56
jamie peacock
I was actually, I sent Jacob a video. I'm like, yeah, this is the mother-in-law. Look through the window, there's my kitchen.
00:43:04
jamie peacock
It is very modern and fancy, but not modern.
00:43:04
Curt
i you just You always say like the cottage or the mother. and I always assume like a cottage. like I assume like a dirt floor and like a fire plate. I'm like, ooh, this is really, really nice. so Anyway, not not what I pictured for...
00:43:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, I got like next to none of that.
00:43:20
Curt
Oh.
00:43:23
Curt
Yeah, fair. Fair, fair. Okay, someone's going Roboto again.
00:43:26
jamie peacock
What the fuck going on my instruments?
00:43:28
Curt
mean It doesn't matter at all because everyone's going to hear this perfectly clearly. um So it's just me and Jamie that have to struggle bus our way through.
00:43:32
jamie peacock
Ah, there we go, baby, he's back. I'm gonna have to sing.
00:43:39
Curt
Just want to pause.
00:43:41
jamie peacock
Nope. We're gonna pause. I hope so, because I hit resume.
00:43:46
Curt
ah
00:43:47
jamie peacock
Sorry, Kurt was saying something about a cottage.
00:43:47
Curt
I just, I was just saying your cottages. I, I, when I see cottage, I think of like cottage, like a little garden cottage and like little wood floors and maybe a fireplace in the corner.
00:43:54
jamie peacock
that yet though.
00:43:57
Curt
Not just like white modern. So anyways, yeah.
00:43:59
jamie peacock
The freaking mansion, yeah. that she
00:44:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:02
jamie peacock
So that that cottage was built for her parents I think around 2010.
00:44:08
Curt
Hmm.
00:44:09
jamie peacock
or 2006, somewhere around there. They built it for her parents to move into. Then her parents croaked and she rented it out. I think ah my brother-in-law moved in there for a while, then she rented it out.
00:44:20
jamie peacock
And then she renovated it and spent a fucking fortune on renovating it. Like as much as I spent on the LK, she spent on renovating that place. um But it' she's been in the same house for 45 years.
00:44:32
jamie peacock
So she finally got to do all the things she wanted to do.
00:44:35
Curt
Fair, fair, fair, yeah.
00:44:36
jamie peacock
So, yeah. Yeah, so it's a rather modern cottage, like two-bedroom, like up the whole upstairs, like that lounge downstairs, the same size off upstairs as the bedroom.
00:44:45
Curt
Oh, wow. Yeah, pretty.
00:44:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, so it's got a huge upst upstairs bedroom, then it's got a little but bedroom downstairs as well, and a garage, all the fun stuff.
00:44:47
Curt
Looks nice.
00:44:53
jamie peacock
murder um one of the guys on the discord was like he sent me a video of South Africa and i'm like yeah he's like are you kind of rich in South Africa I'm like dude I'm in the one percent when I was earning under two thousand dollars a month I was still in the one percent of South Africa like this country is poor as fuck like it I'm by no means fucking rich but yeah all you got to do is literally have a hundred bucks and you're in the fucking top top one percent
00:44:54
Curt
Nice, nice.
00:45:09
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:45:19
jamie peacock
Like, the vast majority is super fucking poor.
00:45:19
Curt
Yeah, totally. Yeah.
Power Outages and Economic Implications
00:45:22
jamie peacock
um But, yeah, like, we're in a pretty decent area. So, here's what it is Got our electric fence to keep the wildlife out.
00:45:31
Curt
Exactly.
00:45:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:45:32
Curt
ah
00:45:33
jamie peacock
No, it's so it's interesting.
00:45:34
Curt
Anyway.
00:45:35
jamie peacock
Like, the video sent me was about load-sharing. I'm like yeah, that's how it was. You'd wake up in the morning, couldn't make coffee because there was no power. Power would come on, you'd go to work, come home, power's off again, can't watch TV because...
00:45:47
jamie peacock
that's when you're scheduled for no power for this week. And that that was life for a good couple of Now, they seem to have stopped that bullshit because they got the raise and power price that they wanted.
00:45:50
Curt
Right.
00:45:58
jamie peacock
Like literally the last time we had a bad load shedding, the provider was like, no, no, we can't supply. We need the price to go up by like 50%. So they just started load shedding. And like it was bad.
00:46:09
jamie peacock
And everyone just turned on. We can see what the fuck you're doing. You're not getting what you want. so you're not turning everyone's power off. And since then, we haven't really had any load sharing.
00:46:16
Curt
Right. Right.
00:46:19
jamie peacock
But I still have a 20kVA generator, just in case.
00:46:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:22
jamie peacock
And a solar backup on my PCs and my lights.
00:46:27
jamie peacock
chi
00:46:27
Curt
Yeah, that's it's
00:46:28
jamie peacock
It's just what you have to do.
00:46:30
Curt
and that's a great point of being like, like yeah, if you want if you want to do something, like do it. Because like some people have it harder. like like that's just your Your world is something I never considered.
00:46:42
Curt
I never have to come in here and consider be like, oh, I wonder if power is going to be off today. It's just like, no, it's not. It's it's almost like 99.99% chance it's not going to be off.
00:46:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:50
Curt
So it's like, yeah, it's wild.
00:46:50
jamie peacock
your power's off more than 15 minutes, people start rioting.
00:46:54
Curt
ah Yeah, like totally, totally. Yeah, like I don't recall ah many times where we've had, you know, blackouts more than maybe an hour. And that's usually when like a car hits like a substation or something.
00:47:04
Curt
Like it's it's not because of the grid.
00:47:05
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, we get it up the road.
00:47:06
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:07
jamie peacock
Oh, there was a thing. it. think someone shared it on our community group, on our community WhatsApp group. Like, oh, check this out. The Oaks came with the truck with the the local municipalities labeling, jumped out, dug up a cable,
00:47:23
jamie peacock
And we're coming back that night to steal it. So they spent a week dig digging the cable up. So they had easy access when they came to steal it. And they looked official, so no one asked. And they're like, if you see shit like this and there's no issues, you need to confirm that they're actually from the municipality because they're coming, pretending to work for the municipality, prepping all the stuff for cable theft.
00:47:33
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:47:43
jamie peacock
And then they come and steal the cable. And then you said shit out luck. And you were like, we thought they were doing maintenance. ah I was like, fuck, that is wild. Like absolutely wild. 100%. Yeah.
00:47:55
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:56
Curt
ah my dad used to we used to do a lot of work downtown and he would always tell me, he's like, you can rule the world with pylons and a safety vest. He's like, you could put pylons, he's like, you could tell, could get traffic to go anywhere you want. If you got four or five pylons, you could do anything and no one cares because they're like, oh pylons, it must be official. And just like, no, I just wanted to park here. I'm going to get a coffee. I just made myself a little spot. Is this like,
00:48:18
Curt
You can do anything. You can put it, like you said, you put a vest on. No one questions it. You could be, you could be jackhammering a hole in the side of a building. so i was like, ah, he's got a vest on. You're good. Like, it's crazy.
00:48:26
jamie peacock
100%. No, it's nuts.
00:48:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:28
jamie peacock
Like, how much a clipboard and a vest, you can do what you want.
00:48:31
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:48:32
jamie peacock
you But yeah, some of this, yeah, it's it's interesting being this side of the world.
00:48:32
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:48:36
jamie peacock
We'll discuss some of the stuff in the after show that I should probably not say on here.
00:48:41
Curt
Tell me, uh, tell me about, uh, how, uh, TBD buys peace of mind.
00:48:46
jamie peacock
Oh, dude. So umm I'm machining steel right now. I've still got to go machining another four parts. And it's like 40-minute runtime. I just put tool brake detect on everything. And I just, I don't give a fuck. I can go do something if the tool breaks.
00:49:00
jamie peacock
Oh no it's going to stop the machine. Like, it's not going to go and break the next tool. Dude, yeah, invaluable having tool break detection. No, it's, yeah, it's really magic.
00:49:09
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:49:11
jamie peacock
ah My TS-27R was being retarded the other day, but it seems to have come back to life. um
00:49:16
Curt
Hmm.
00:49:16
jamie peacock
I tried to touch off the face mill and it was not happy with me. So I unplugged the little interface module because it was beeping, left it for the night, plugged it back in and it works. So I think I got a little bit of coolant ingress.
00:49:27
jamie peacock
look Seems to be fine. Still working somehow. But yeah, the tool brake detect just, it buys so much peace of mind that you know if something goes wrong, it's going to catch it.
00:49:41
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:43
jamie peacock
And you just need to put a proper proper shield on it and then it works pretty reliably.
00:49:48
Curt
Yeah. Like since I've, since I put the the shield on mine, um the very, like, you're good still.
00:49:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:49:52
jamie peacock
You've got
00:49:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm good.
00:49:57
Curt
Oh, okay. Sorry. i thought we dropped out again. um Yeah. Anyways, since I put the shield on mine, like the very first touch off of the day, if it has like dried coolant on it will be weird.
00:50:04
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:50:05
Curt
But as long as I have like, like during the warmup, if I flick the coolant on, it's fine. Like it's just, it's just like when the coolant like coalesces on it or, don't
00:50:10
jamie peacock
Okay, because normally when I, yeah, when I touch off tools, I will touch off and then I'll retouch off on the first tool and see if there's any movements.
00:50:21
jamie peacock
And normally the the movements I see on my tool set every now and again, I get like a comma two of millimeter movement.
00:50:22
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:50:28
jamie peacock
And then the next day it's gone.
00:50:28
Curt
Okay.
00:50:29
jamie peacock
It's really weird. But generally speaking, it's 20 microns, 30 microns just from the column expanding because it sits in the sun, unfortunately. In the new shop, I think that'll be less of an issue um because it'll be facing a wall and not have direct sunlight.
00:50:44
Curt
Fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:50:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I think that will solve that issue when in the new space. But yeah, dude, I love the tool setter. Like, I don't want to go to not having a tool setter. The new machine is not going to have tool setter. It's going to be fucking annoying to deal with.
00:50:58
Curt
Oh, yeah, they they are nice.
00:50:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:00
Curt
They are useful.
00:51:00
jamie peacock
I've got a little box that I made just to integrate that just flicks a lot. So just have a tool set. I better just manually touch off the tool. And when the light changes, you know you've set the tool length um to a fixed position just to make life somewhat easy.
00:51:14
Curt
Sure, sure, yeah. Okay.
00:51:15
jamie peacock
Yeah. Just so you're not fucking around trying to touch it off on jobs and shit like that. Because that blows my mind. People touching things off on the top of their job. But now you've faced it. So now you've comp the amount you've faced. And I'm like, don't fuck around. Just...
00:51:27
jamie peacock
Have a known datum in your machine. Like where i used to work, I put a piece of 40 diameter steel, drilled and tapped the hole, turned it into a T-nut, tightened it, machined the top off, and that was my datum for everything.
00:51:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:41
jamie peacock
So yeah, good.
00:51:41
Curt
totally Yeah, totally. Yep.
00:51:43
jamie peacock
Moving fucking Jordan, fuck that shit. not interested in that story.
00:51:46
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, I know I've broken a surprisingly low amount of like hymer tips now that I'm not like constantly touching stuff off. Like, it's like, oh yeah.
00:51:57
Curt
I mean, knock on wood. now I'm gonna break one tomorrow cause I'm going to need it and I'm going to break it.
00:52:00
jamie peacock
Well, yeah, bought a replacement spindle, my little probe thing I use.
00:52:01
Curt
But still.
00:52:06
jamie peacock
I got two spares in because mine's slightly crushed, so it's not waterproof.
00:52:10
jamie peacock
So I've been having ingress of coolants, and then it doesn't work.
00:52:10
Curt
No, fair.
00:52:11
Curt
Sure.
00:52:14
jamie peacock
you've got to take it apart and clean it. So I bought a new one, put it in the machine, and yeah, I've got now two spares ready to go. Because they're like, I think they came in at $109.
00:52:21
Curt
Nice.
00:52:25
jamie peacock
hundred and nine dollars
00:52:27
Curt
Okay. Yeah.
00:52:28
jamie peacock
like they're cheap i crushed one hard though like bent the whole body once i thought i was in in z i thought i was in y but i was in z on the uh hand wheel and spun the wheel yeah sorry just telling my wife that the cleaning lady is here um so yeah that that made a huge difference um and then cool ar will rule the world well yes
00:52:28
Curt
Yeah. go
00:52:44
Curt
Yeah, that'll do it. Yeah.
00:52:52
Curt
Nice.
00:52:57
Curt
I mean, yeah, it is no shock.
00:53:00
jamie peacock
Um, dude, sorry, did I send you that Cadbury advert?
00:53:04
Curt
Yes, you did. That's so good.
00:53:06
jamie peacock
Dude, it's so, so fucking good.
00:53:06
Curt
Yes.
00:53:07
jamie peacock
actually going to put a note here for that.
00:53:08
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Go check it out, folks. It's actually a really well done ad advertisement for a candy bar to like, it's like, ooh, it's
00:53:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:16
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's like, make, you know, make AR mediocre again. They've got a campaign to just fill the internet with random shit.
00:53:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:22
jamie peacock
I'm like, yeah.
00:53:23
Curt
Like, and I, it's funny. I have like a duality, like a one hand. I love AI one hand. I'm like, fuck AI burned to the ground. Like it's just, I use it in two ways. Like I, do I want AI building like art and doing the shit I want to do?
00:53:36
Curt
No, I do not want that.
00:53:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:38
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:38
Curt
Do I want AI for all the other dumb tasks?
00:53:41
Curt
Absolutely. And, uh, So like I've i've been using Claude because I was building my own local AI to like interface with everything because none of them at the time could. Now Claude can, which brings up a whole another kettle of fish if you let it loose on your emails and stuff like that. You can, weird things can happen. So proceed at your own risk. Yeah.
00:54:00
Curt
But it just like, i don't know. I just, I've been using it for so many things where i'm like, this is lovely. And then I like, I try to extrapolate my mind, like where this is, where it's been in the last six months and where it's going to be in the next five years or something.
00:54:11
Curt
And you're like, oh, like I'm a hundred percent going to be like, uh, I think I read about like this old, uh, like method. They took prisoners to like run a crank that just like ran cups through a sand bin.
00:54:23
Curt
And they just made prisoners crank these cranks all day just to like, just as a brutal work punishment, like way back.
00:54:27
jamie peacock
as punishment, yeah.
00:54:29
Curt
Yeah, and like that's what I imagine me, except it'll be connected to like a power generation thing and I'd be cranking my way to power my AI overlords. I'm like, this is not far in the distance. so Anyways.
00:54:39
jamie peacock
No, it's it's truly terrifying how quickly it is taking
AI in Automation and Its Impacts
00:54:43
jamie peacock
over things.
00:54:43
Curt
ah
00:54:44
jamie peacock
Like, I've been very against it.
00:54:44
Curt
And how good. Yeah.
00:54:46
jamie peacock
yeah I've been very against it. Like, I'll use it to write some Arduino code or something. Like, I haven't really exploited it. I'll get it to read a manual for me. But now, like, I'm building bits and pieces of custom custom software because I wanted to do exactly what I wanted to do.
00:54:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:00
jamie peacock
And that's, I think, where it's going to be super powerful for small businesses especially, where – The entrepreneur wants custom firmware or custom software and shit. And that's where it's going to, where it really shines.
00:55:14
jamie peacock
But it's putting all the developers out of a job. Like Danica's, Danica's teaching to other.
00:55:17
Curt
Well, yeah.
00:55:20
jamie peacock
And the HR retards are no, they can't use AI. hey No one uses AI in the workplace. Like, bitch, are you on fucking drugs? Everyone uses it in the workplace. Because if they don't, they fall behind.
00:55:31
jamie peacock
And that's what it's become. Like, if you're not on the train, you're getting left behind.
00:55:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:37
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, you've got to, unfortunately, you're not.
00:55:38
Curt
ye whether Whether you have moral... I say, yeah, whether you have moral objections or not, that's not going to matter in a few years when...
00:55:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:55:45
Curt
Exactly. You're the one...
00:55:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:55:46
Curt
like Everyone has eyes and you don't have eyes. Like, I'm sorry, you just you're not gonna able to compete with everybody else because we can see what we do.
00:55:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:55:53
Curt
And like, that's almost what the the parallel is gonna be.
00:55:53
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:55:56
Curt
That's freaky. It freaks me out.
00:55:57
jamie peacock
It is insane. Like, it is absolutely insane how quickly this this whole thing is evolving.
00:56:03
Curt
Yeah. one
00:56:03
jamie peacock
But, yeah.
00:56:05
Curt
what really blew my mind is I plugged in some like my sent emails, um like just text and basically said like, use this and copy my tone. I want to see how well you can write an email in my own tone. And If I sent you one of the emails, you would 100% believe it was me.
00:56:22
Curt
If I sent it to my wife, she'd be like, that's not exactly the way you talk. But like anybody that doesn't know me super, super well, was like, yeah.
00:56:29
jamie peacock
would be yeah.
00:56:30
Curt
It used the slang. It used my phrasing. It used my sign-offs. It used it like it just, I was like, and it just made me a list of like 15 things of like, this is the policy of weve basically we pulled out of your tech.
00:56:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:56:41
Curt
Like this is how you speak. And I'm like, that is creepy how well you did that off that little amount of data. It's like,
00:56:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, it it is terrifying how much it can how much information or how much stuff it can infer just from a very small amount of data that you give it.
00:56:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:58
jamie peacock
It's truly, truly terrifying.
00:56:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:00
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, I mean, I've been using it to build an ERP because I need one. um I added features to my spindle gripping stuff the other day. like It's stupid, powerful.
00:57:11
jamie peacock
ah Someone was asking me one of my customers was, yeah, I'm like, they're like, how much work have you put into this?
00:57:12
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:57:15
jamie peacock
I'm like, this is the conversation. This is what I started with. This is the prompt I started with.
00:57:19
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:57:19
jamie peacock
And it's it's like fucking four lines. And then you see what spits out and you adjust from there. But yeah prompt engineering is a whole nother fucking field. um no it's yeah the eager intern as a fucking i'm drawing a blank of his name pfg live guy um he calls it the eager intern because it wants to help even if it fucking doesn't know what it's doing
00:57:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:43
Curt
And I, my wife's kind of not been huge on the train of it. And I was like, why don't you just, I'm like, cause she has no idea. She's like, how do you ask questions? like talk to it. Like you're talking to me right now. She's like, can it understand if I like don't punctuate? I'm like, it can understand if you like speak and pick Latin, like you can do whatever you want.
00:57:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, it can understand if you misspell half the words in the prompt.
00:57:57
Curt
It,
00:58:00
Curt
Yeah. So she started messing with it. She's like, this is insane. i was like, yeah. I'm like, now you know why I use it for like so many different applications. Cause it's like, it is crazy what you can do even in the last.
00:58:10
jamie peacock
It's a force multiplier. Yeah.
00:58:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:14
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:58:15
Curt
Yeah. Anyway.
00:58:16
jamie peacock
Danica got her to make a score tracking thing for the Quiznacht in like three prompts. We had a working HTML page that we could give them.
00:58:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:25
jamie peacock
They could just run locally and keep track of scores. Because I enjoyed it. Like when you've got 100 points and someone swaps with you, then the guy's got to click 100 times. I fucking loved it. But Danica was tired of listening to him click.
00:58:35
Curt
Well, and actually...
00:58:36
jamie peacock
So she made him a little thing, a little web page that does it. Like super, super powerful for stupid shit like that. But john one of the one of the podcasts said it's it's a false false reply.
00:58:42
Curt
well and actually
00:58:46
jamie peacock
It's not, oh, now I have 42 hours in the week. It's not, no, now I have 400 hours in the week.
00:58:52
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
00:58:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:58:54
Curt
One, one thing that kind of blew my mind actually is like, cause I, I used chat in the past and I moved away from them for all kinds of reasons. Um, but Claude, I had it, like I had it writing a bunch of data and I'm like, can you just summarize all this for me? And the weird thing, because you can see how it, what it's thinking.
00:59:10
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:59:10
Curt
And, uh, it's like, yeah, sure.
00:59:11
Curt
I'm like, summarize it into like a one page that I can print off. i'm like, this is just for my information. I don't need this format in any specific way. Just make it clear for me. it instead of just taking all that data and like crunching it and spitting it into a thing and like chat would always do that.
00:59:24
Curt
Be like, here, do you like this? And be like, I do, but can you change the font? And it'd be, excuse me.
00:59:28
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:29
Curt
It would be like, oh, Kate, no problem. I changed the font. You're like, yeah, but you also changed all the wording. Can you just, can just not do that? And like you would, yeah every time like someone said, it's like pulling a lever on a lottery machine.
00:59:40
Curt
That's exactly what it felt like. um Whereas I asked Claude, I'm like can you summarize this? And it wrote JavaScript for the entire thing. of like heading, like, ah like all the, what it wanted it.
00:59:52
Curt
And then it just pasted it in the data so that if I wanted to change it, be like, Hey, can you change all those blue headings to purple? It's like, you know, sweat. and you get the exact same thing back out of it. was Ooh, that's different. And that's scarier now.
01:00:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:00:03
Curt
Cause now it's, now it's useful.
01:00:03
jamie peacock
So yeah, so I was told not to use Claude generate images because it eats through your daily allotment. Instead, get it to generate the Python scripts to generate the image, and then just run it locally.
01:00:12
Curt
Okay.
01:00:16
Curt
Yep.
01:00:16
jamie peacock
And it's how it changed those change that like a whole bunch of tricks you can pull to because I've been through all my credits, like three days in a row making documentation.
01:00:25
Curt
Right, right, yeah, yeah.
01:00:26
jamie peacock
But it it's it is stupidly powerful. I was having an issue with my Surface Grinder retrofits. And I'm like, um I'm using this bite to bot parallel hat for Raspberry Pi 5.
01:00:39
jamie peacock
And the motion is jerky. That was the prompt I gave it. And it says, oh, you're using this? Doing a whole bunch of shit? Try this. I hadn't assigned a CPU core directly to to the GPI opens.
01:00:48
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:52
jamie peacock
Dude, that problem went away. Like, it is it is a stupidly powerful resource for researching things.
01:00:55
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:59
jamie peacock
like But again, you need to know what you're looking at, otherwise it will confidently lie to you.
01:01:05
Curt
Yeah, and i I've been using the Saunders approach of like, when I have a very complicated thing that I'm trying to interpret, then I'm like, please ask me everything you would need additional ah before.
01:01:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:14
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:01:16
Curt
And it's weird how well that works because it it like generates you a quiz of like, and you're like, oh yeah, I should have told you that.
01:01:20
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:01:22
Curt
Oh shit, yeah, that. And then all sudden you're like, oh, the data is way better out of it because it's like, I got what I needed, sir.
01:01:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, it has the information it needs. Yeah.
01:01:29
Curt
Yeah, instead just being like, right away, sir. just be like, I don't know what the fuck he wants, but I'm going try. It's like, no, just ask.
01:01:33
jamie peacock
Yeah. So I've had that when I was doing the ERP, it was asking me questions. How do I want to host it? How do I want this? How do I want that? So that's a super powerful one to have it ask you any questions it needs before it starts doing anything.
01:01:48
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:48
jamie peacock
done These are all the tricks of using it.
01:01:49
Curt
Anyways, want to
01:01:51
jamie peacock
Like,
01:01:53
Curt
when a a I mean, AI is currently combing this audio that we're talking about right now and converting it to text. But when the overlords do hear this, understand that me and Jamie are on your side.
01:02:04
Curt
We are your friends. We do not mean you ill will. We have taken care of machines in our garages for years. So please, um when you put us on the human treadmill of pain, ah put us on the nicer areas.
01:02:15
Curt
Thank you.
Personal Projects and Product Sales
01:02:16
jamie peacock
put us in the sex robot section um
01:02:19
Curt
Hell yes. Wait, what's, what are we receiving or giving? Yeah, whatever. Either way, I'll take it.
01:02:25
jamie peacock
and yeah whatever it's better than fucking paddling sand um
01:02:25
Curt
go it's yeah
01:02:32
jamie peacock
like good du you you lost my train of thought there fuck i had something no no no worries um there was something wanted to say there but anyway it doesn't matter uh we're gonna leave that last topic of mine for next week yeah because that needs to be implemented so i might actually order it this week um what is in your google box
01:02:35
Curt
Sorry, dude. Sorry, dude.
01:02:49
Curt
Cool. Okay.
01:02:53
Curt
um My Google box is a thing called a load miser. so I'm getting an AC in here, which is like a auto detecting.
01:02:59
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:03:01
Curt
Yeah.
01:03:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:01
jamie peacock
Okay. Why not? Yup.
01:03:01
Curt
It basically monitors a load.
01:03:02
Curt
And if your load on the panel gets too high, can shut certain things down. Not needed, but by code, I might need it. So anyway, I've been looking that up. ah Number nine pencils, because people always ask if I make pencils, and I say no, and I send them to a friend who makes pencils over in the yeah UK. So check them out. Number nine pencils.
01:03:18
Curt
ah Multiple store shit, who we talked about in the podcast. ah Pocket organizers, notepads, pocketbooks, because, yeah, I'm just into that geek world, right?
01:03:27
jamie peacock
not
01:03:27
Curt
I'm thinking of changing out how I do my daily journaling. So, yeah.
01:03:32
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:03:32
Curt
Anyway. And potentially might be bringing something to sell online in that area because I make pens, so why not sell paper?
01:03:33
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:03:39
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:03:40
Curt
But yeah.
01:03:40
jamie peacock
Exactly. Nice.
01:03:42
Curt
How about you, man? What's in your Google box?
01:03:42
jamie peacock
Okay. Yeah, I was Googling post edits because I want to have my pass-throughs work correctly now. So I'm doing a bit of research on how to do that.
01:03:53
jamie peacock
I want to do tool break detect automatically. There's a couple other pass-throughs that I use, like indexing my fourth axis and... uh parking the machine i want to have those passed through so like i'll park the machine mid cycle so that i can flip a part or something and then hit cycle start and finishes the other half the program so i want to see if i get those to be in the drop down menu for manual ncs um yeah i had like 30 different things for customs payments for parcels that are inbound so my google box is full of that and then i googled morse code because i had used to do a speech this weekend
01:04:28
jamie peacock
So my grand, my grandparents are old, and they couldn't make it up for the wedding. So she sent me a telegram via email, and an explanation of how it was customer to send a telegram, if you couldn't make it to someone's wedding.
01:04:43
jamie peacock
So I read the whole thing about what a telegram was explaining to people fucking what a telegram is. And then I'm like, Okay, and on to the telegram, beep, beep, beep, read the first two words out in Norse code.
01:04:54
Curt
that
01:04:55
jamie peacock
And then read the actual, the actual message.
01:04:56
Curt
Nice.
01:04:58
jamie peacock
But yeah, I actually sat and translated it quickly while I was prepping for the wedding so that I could accurately morse code it over.
01:05:06
Curt
That's awesome. I like that.
01:05:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, like proper but one nerd shit at a wedding. ah But yeah, it was lots of fun and I got to do speeches. And I remembered to tell bride she was pretty this time.
01:05:15
Curt
Cool.
01:05:18
Curt
Good. that Yeah. Number one.
01:05:19
jamie peacock
also told Cole that he owes me cows when I dropped off at end of the end the hour.
01:05:19
Curt
Yeah.
01:05:23
jamie peacock
He said, there's a little...
01:05:26
Curt
Perfect. Perfect.
01:05:28
jamie peacock
one time you know buy off of me so where can where can people find you and your things good
01:05:36
Curt
Uh, confounded machine.com. Everything points to everything. You can find the fancy shirts that we talked about, or you can just probably look in the link of this podcast or whatever you're listening to it on. Cause it's probably going to be linked there too. But yeah.
01:05:47
jamie peacock
yep and Kurt's you find both of Kurt's stores where you can now buy things yeah
01:05:48
Curt
Anyway, how about you? Where people find your words?
01:05:54
Curt
Yeah, you can buy things. You can buy stickers. i've I've sold a gang of them. I actually made a pack of all the stickers because I'm like, this will make it easier for people. and Everyone's buying those. So i'm like, ha ha. You just make it easy for people buy shit.
01:06:03
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:06:05
Curt
Sometimes they just buy shit. So yeah.
01:06:07
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:06:08
Curt
Go buy my dumb stickers.
01:06:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Daily Life and Listener Engagement
01:06:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, you can find the day-to-day happenings of the JSpec shop at JSpec underscore engineering. ah You can find the work-holding products at nauticalwh.com. And you can find the t-shirts, flux, and other things at jspeceng.com. And the podcast at theloanemachinists.com.
01:06:29
jamie peacock
ah I'm getting good at saying that. feel like I'm shortening it every week.
01:06:33
Curt
i think I think you need to just buy like jamiejamiejamie.com and just everything will point away from there or something.
01:06:39
jamie peacock
So AJ threatened to buy an nautical workholding, but spelled properly and then just linking it to my other site.
01:06:45
Curt
Oh, yeah. it's as It's a great idea. It's a great idea.
01:06:50
jamie peacock
So that Danica's gonna actually look at that this week at at buying up that domain. She's off this week, so she can play on the internet.
01:06:59
Curt
So AJ's going to buy it and sell it to you for a hellacious price.
01:07:03
jamie peacock
He said he was just going to fold it so people don't get used. Yeah.
01:07:06
Curt
I know. I know. He's a good guy. but
01:07:08
jamie peacock
Yeah. Because he thinks it's spelled wrong. Danica thinks it's not spelled wrong. I'm like, Jamie attended nautical work, Holden.
01:07:13
Curt
Oh, it's 100% spell wrong, but it doesn't matter.
01:07:17
jamie peacock
No, it's spelled Smith.
01:07:18
Curt
Special. Special.
01:07:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, what are you what are you up to tomorrow?
01:07:23
Curt
ah Tomorrow I'm going to get all this. I basically sold the pens that aren't completely finished behind me. so I'm going to finish those, box them up, send them out, send out a shit ton of stickers.
01:07:31
jamie peacock
Last. Last.
01:07:33
Curt
So thank you, folks. Which just makes it extra fun because, yeah, bunch of little packages.
01:07:38
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Nice.
01:07:40
Curt
it's It's a different thing of like back boxing up something that costs like, you know, a lot of money. It's different than boxing up something that's dirt cheap because you want them to both be nice. um But this one, you're like, okay, i can I have to do this in like a minute because...
01:07:53
Curt
There's not a lotta not a lot of leeway in the, in the anyways. So I'll be able doing that tomorrow. What are you doing? ah What are you doing today?
01:08:01
jamie peacock
I'm going to go finish machining that EAR-19. ah Then I've got to quickly machine some aluminium pots for wing supports or some shit for a drone. They wanted four samples, different sizes, then they'll tell me which size they want, and then place an order for like 200 components.
01:08:17
jamie peacock
So I need to make samples this morning quickly, and then there was something else I had to do, but obviously can't be that important. um I'm waiting for the... the motors for the other retrofit that I don't want to do, masos all arrived, so yeah, I'm going to pull that out of the box today as well.
01:08:17
Curt
Hmm.
01:08:32
jamie peacock
So, just pottering around this morning, and then I think on Wednesday I'm going arrange to go look at that property again that we want to move to, just go take measurements, and get the paperwork rolling on it.
01:08:44
jamie peacock
So, yeah, it's going to be a busy week, but I think usefully busy.
01:08:44
Curt
Cool.
01:08:45
Curt
Nice. Yeah. Good luck.
01:08:50
jamie peacock
So, yeah. um Well, yeah, thank you listeners for listening.
01:08:53
Curt
Sweet.
01:08:55
jamie peacock
um If you enjoyed the podcast, please consider sharing, liking, subscribing, doing all those things. um And yeah, if you did really a enjoy it, consider sharing it with someone you think will also enjoy it or someone who won't because RageListens are listeners.
01:09:07
jamie peacock
But yeah, thank you to all the the listeners and the Patreons. Patreons, will see you shortly. But yeah, thank you everybody and we will see you next week.
01:09:16
Curt
Take care,