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Ep. 61: Schrodinger's Guest Part 2
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This week on The Lone Machinist, the "Original Kurt" returns to reclaim his throne (or at least a guest spot) as we welcome Jon Dillehay from 2SM Performance and Engine Trix. We dive deep into the mechanical prowess required to maintain a garage-based empire, the tragedy of the Harbor Freight bandsaw graveyard, and why Jamie is currently machining at a feed rate of "boobs millimeters per minute".
In this episode, we tackle the hard-hitting questions, such as:
Can Curt actually read? Is John a psychic? How many bandsaws is too many? Why are anodizers the devil? The Garage Dream: Waking up at 2:00 a.m. to the sound of money (and Shopify notifications), sipping coffee in a bathrobe, and turning on a phase converter while the rest of the neighborhood sleeps.
Whether you’re here for the two-stroke engine talk, the "dust maker" end mill that evaporates aluminium, or Curt's latest obsession with self-hosting his photos to escape the cloud, there’s something for every machinist who’s ever felt alone with their machines.
Links Discussed:
- Hofmann and Vratny: https://hitech.co.za/products/hofmann-and-vratny
- Engine Trix: https://www.enginetrix.com/
- Mini Monster: https://minimonster.ca/
The Lone Machinist:
- Website: https://thelonemachinists.com/
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Jon:
- https://www.instagram.com/2smperformance
- https://www.2smperformance.com/
Jamie:
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Overview
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Lone Machinist, it's just you, the work, and your machines. Today we have special guest John, Schroding is guest from last week, and Kurt, as usual, and me.
00:00:09
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Thank you.
00:00:11
jamie peacock
So we're going to quickly power through our topic, Kurt, and my topics, because we have updates from last week's episode, and then we're going to dive into John's story and what's going on and everything.
00:00:21
jamie peacock
So yeah, Kurt, what's on your list?
00:00:24
Curt
ah Things I'll touch on is ah how you told me to fix my tool touch off thing, but I can't comprehend words, so I didn't figure it out that way. ah The hal file on my lathe nearly killed me and trusting AI with food.
00:00:37
Curt
How about you? What are you going to talk about
00:00:39
jamie peacock
um ribbing nails uh running at boobs millimeters per minute and uh had a chat to luke from fabtastic yes very fancy so how are you guys this fine day let you guys fight for attention you're there and alive john nas yes
00:00:54
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I'm here, I'm alive.
00:00:59
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Coffee.
00:01:00
Curt
Yeah. thanks for coming ah Thanks for coming to chat with us, John. And if like, if folks don't know, ah you started the podcast with Jamie back and was it episode two? I think there's a life story of you or...
00:01:09
jamie peacock
I think it's episode of one.
00:01:11
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, yeah, think that is.
00:01:13
Curt
Episode one or episode two. So yeah, if you want to hear John's...
00:01:14
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:01:14
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Was Jimmy first or was I first?
00:01:16
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Honestly, I don't remember exactly, but it's one of
Podcast Origins with John
00:01:19
Jon Dillehay 2SM
the first two episodes, yeah.
00:01:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's one of the first ones.
00:01:21
Jon Dillehay 2SM
want to get a little bit more on my background and my life story, you can refer to that.
00:01:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:01:21
Curt
Just go... Yeah.
00:01:25
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:01:25
Curt
Go back and listen to both them for the views for us so that we we get...
00:01:27
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I'm the original Kurt.
00:01:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly.
00:01:30
Curt
Exactly, exactly.
00:01:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:01:31
Jon Dillehay 2SM
the
00:01:31
Curt
Yeah, I'm the imposter.
00:01:32
Curt
I should just have a shirt that says John.
00:01:37
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Jamie's good at making shirts.
00:01:39
jamie peacock
Yes, apparently.
00:01:39
Curt
It is good to make sure it's up.
00:01:40
jamie peacock
I'm actually i like big cuts and I cannot laugh. I tried to re-enable this the other day for somebody on the store because they wanted one.
00:01:42
Curt
Ooh.
00:01:48
jamie peacock
Anyway, cut. Tell me. oh yeah, there we go. Mr. Elgato. um
00:01:52
Jon Dillehay 2SM
A cat.
00:01:53
Curt
What the heck is going?
00:01:53
jamie peacock
Tell me about how you fixed your touch probe because I'm kind of curious.
00:01:57
Curt
um I have no idea why my... Okay, we're back. We're back. Elgato decided to drop out on me.
Kurt's Tool Touch-off Challenges
00:02:03
Curt
um So you sent me that lovely like ah written thing resp response of like all the settings to check.
00:02:06
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:02:08
Curt
My settings aren't the same as yours, but...
00:02:10
jamie peacock
Shock and awe.
00:02:11
Curt
I need to read and comprehend. I always joke that people can read and can't comprehend. And I did that exact thing. You talk so much about the the probe tip. I got hyper fixated on that and checked all those settings. What I didn't check is there's six settings where your probe connects to the machine.
00:02:26
Curt
And you basically set it like three or six. It's like a ah toggled variable. And mine were not set to those. They were just set to like zero. So the machine didn't even know where to look. Which is a week. So it was it was throwing an over limit error, but it was it was it was just confusing me.
00:02:39
Curt
Anyways, I sent an email to style because I couldn't figure it out. And they're like, oh, change these. I'm like, wait, I recognize these. And I looked at your email is like, oh, Jamie, send it to me first. So technically you fix it. I just couldn't read. So that's how you fix my machine again.
00:02:50
jamie peacock
Reading and comprehending are not the same thing. Like, yeah, I'm busy with my competency here and I've procrastinated because I need to read and comprehend.
00:02:54
Curt
No, not at all. Not at all.
00:03:01
jamie peacock
I can't just read and it needs to stick in my melon, which means I have to cut out time to actually read and comprehend it.
00:03:09
Curt
yeah so
00:03:10
Jon Dillehay 2SM
ADHD. steal
00:03:10
jamie peacock
But the gist of it is your tool touch-off is working.
00:03:15
Curt
everything is working again yeah everything like yeah that's that's all it needed it just needed to look where the signal was and now everything is perfectly happy so it was like oh well that was easy i should have done that forever ago so yeah yeah totally exactly um yeah how about uh how about you how's the ribbing how's a ribbing nail going
00:03:16
jamie peacock
Yay!
00:03:24
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yes. Okay, well, at least that's now least that's now resolved. Yeah. So, I have...
00:03:35
jamie peacock
I made the press tools yesterday and ran samples and ran samples today. i have 20,000 nails arriving tomorrow.
00:03:43
Curt
ah
00:03:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's two days production.
00:03:46
Curt
That sounds fantastic.
00:03:47
jamie peacock
Yeah. The guy can run two at a time, so it's not too annoying, but my smart press is going to stroke half a million times over the next six months.
00:03:56
Curt
who o Ragged.
00:03:57
jamie peacock
Yeah. But it works. I'm pretty pretty happy with how the little tool set came out. So we'll see how that goes tomorrow when he's crushing things in my press on a recurring basis.
00:04:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:04:09
jamie peacock
um
00:04:09
Curt
Nice.
00:04:10
jamie peacock
So yeah, you I see you finished your coin.
00:04:11
Curt
Cool.
00:04:12
jamie peacock
100%.
00:04:13
Curt
Yeah, I'll kill the rest of my topics real quick. We'll kill yours and we'll talk to John because that's more interesting.
00:04:16
jamie peacock
It is.
00:04:17
Curt
um Yeah.
00:04:18
jamie peacock
it is
00:04:19
Curt
The tool touch was fixed. Continuing to purge and zell shit. So I sold a bunch more stuff out of here that I just don't use. i ah airbrush and old CB radio and just, yeah, it's lovely. Get it out of my hair. Someone else can use it. I get cash for it. Works out well.
00:04:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:04:33
Curt
Fiber coin is done. Put a video out for that. It's doing quite well. i was happy with that. That went out well. I didn't, I didn't once say the name of the company um that sponsored it, but we'll see if they're mad about that. um
00:04:43
jamie peacock
Was that, sorry, was that a YouTube video or a... Okay, I was going to say, I think I saw but...
00:04:46
Curt
It's just a short on Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm doing a YouTube video as well, but it'll take more editing yet.
00:04:53
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:04:53
Curt
So ah that's done.
00:04:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:04:55
Curt
um How file on my lathe. I usually change one.
00:04:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, what did you do?
00:04:59
Curt
Dude, I change one thing. um I basically disable speed override for one operation for reaming because I run it at a really slow speed and I use a mechanical speed changer inside the lathe to basically down speed it.
00:05:11
Curt
um So that it throws everything off, but I don't care because I'm just reaming. ah but if i So I just toggle the how file off.
00:05:15
jamie peacock
Yep. Ooh. Yeah. Oh, shit.
00:05:17
Curt
I say, and then... when I, when I'm done this operation, I have to like basically uncomment that line. And if I don't, it doesn't read its speed. So when I do threading during the next operation, it just guesses at how close. So I keep doing, and it's close enough.
00:05:32
Curt
I'm like, why are these threads super loose? And yeah, anyways, I almost, I almost did a whole batch of, of a pen caps before I realized it. And i was like, Oh shit. just grabbed them all through the trash. was like, okay, well, I know what, I know what I did.
00:05:46
Curt
And, uh, yeah.
00:05:48
jamie peacock
That's fucking funny.
00:05:48
Curt
And then, uh, trust, trusting AI with my food. So like, i I like try to go to the gym and I try to eat well. And then I put my entire like diet into, into chat and said, can you just make me like meal plans so that I don't have to like think about food.
00:06:01
Curt
I can just be like, this is what I eat every day and, uh, make it so I don't die.
00:06:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:05
Curt
And, uh, yeah, it's giving me a meal plan. i don't know. We'll see if it works.
00:06:09
jamie peacock
It's brave.
00:06:10
Curt
See if it kills me or not. Yeah. No, it seems pretty pretty decent, so I don't know.
00:06:12
jamie peacock
Very brave.
00:06:15
Curt
Well, time will tell.
00:06:15
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:06:16
Curt
See how many episodes I make, so.
00:06:16
jamie peacock
Interesting. Yeah.
00:06:18
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Mm-hmm.
00:06:19
jamie peacock
Kurt all of a sudden, the house is going to eat a toaster.
00:06:19
Curt
ah How about you, dude?
00:06:23
Curt
exactly Exactly. Yeah. Anyway, that's my topics.
00:06:25
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, so I'm going to be making a bunch more molds. The mold I did in January, they asked for an RFQ today for another five of those, and they want them deeper, which is a bit annoying.
00:06:36
jamie peacock
I was machining htb HTP at boobs millimeter per second.
00:06:41
jamie peacock
don't know if you guys saw that story. It was great. I tried to run it at boobies millimeters per second, boom minutes, but I didn't want that. I only wanted boobs.
00:06:41
Curt
I'd like that.
John's Business Ventures
00:06:50
jamie peacock
Keel clamps are released, and John bought a set last night and woke up at 2 a.m.,
00:06:53
jamie peacock
um And then, yeah, chatted to Luke from Fabtastic.
00:06:54
Curt
Nice.
00:06:57
jamie peacock
He's just had power built into his workshop, so we should actually get update somewhat soon. But yeah, he's busy with that Swiss design, and I was helping over the weekend. Like, I was on the Tapson page in Discord, saw he was in the chat, so I just hopped into the chat and, yeah, watched him work on the design.
00:07:08
Curt
Cool.
00:07:13
jamie peacock
It looks like it's going to be a real beast of a machine.
00:07:14
Curt
Nice.
00:07:16
Curt
all cool. I'm excited to hear that. Yeah.
00:07:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. it's a problem it's a real problem because he's kind of maybe be planning on sharing the files
00:07:25
Curt
Oh, that's going be rough. That's going rough.
00:07:27
jamie peacock
i know know also aluminium's half the price here as it is over there so we may be chatting so fun times but anyway yes um but yeah anyway we've got john the uh other original host before we replaced him with kurt
00:07:28
Curt
but
00:07:33
Curt
Oh. Ooh. Yeah, you might be making more than one set, Jamie. e
00:07:47
jamie peacock
um So of John, how's things been going your side of the world?
00:07:47
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:07:49
Jon Dillehay 2SM
What's up?
00:07:52
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Well, this month has really perked up a lot from January. Been a lot busier, turning out a lot more parts. And I'm just grateful for it, man. You know, I've been trying to go more towards the product line based type of business model, which has been really fun and eventually where I really want to go full time. And some some months, it sucks.
00:08:15
Jon Dillehay 2SM
you know? So, but lately has been really good, man.
00:08:17
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:08:19
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Thanks for asking.
00:08:20
jamie peacock
Oh, that's, that's good. Yeah, because you're not chats on a weekly basis still.
00:08:25
jamie peacock
So I kind of know what's going on on the on the back end.
00:08:25
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Mm-hmm.
00:08:26
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yes, we do.
00:08:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's usually a couple hours of just talking shit on a went well now a Wednesday morning. um
00:08:34
Jon Dillehay 2SM
it's our It's our machine shop therapy hour. Because nobody else understands what guys like us go through.
00:08:36
jamie peacock
Exactly. our I'm glad you think it's only me an hour.
00:08:40
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So we kind of talk shit and, you know, keep the shit.
00:08:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:08:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, shoot the shit for a few hours and talk through issues in the workshop and whatnot.
00:08:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:08:51
jamie peacock
So yeah, how's the...
00:08:52
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Shop call.
00:08:54
jamie peacock
So you've got you've got engine tricks and 2SM performance as your two your two main product lines.
00:08:59
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Correct. Correct.
00:09:02
jamie peacock
How will those go on? you want to give the the audience just a quick catch-up on what they are and what what do you supply Yeah.
00:09:07
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Okay, yeah, absolutely. um Growing up in Southern California as a kid, before I even had my driver's license, I was really into motorcycles and like wanting to get around. like Every kid wants to have mobility and freedom, right? And when you're not old enough to drive a car, what's the next best thing?
00:09:29
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Well, growing up in my day, we had these things called go-peds, where it basically is like a two-stroke motorized scooter. that you ride around on, you can go like 30 miles per hour on.
00:09:40
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And they were popular in my neighborhood and i wanted one so bad. and I think Christmas of 1999, I finally got one. And that is basically like what taught me a lot of like my mechanical prowess and like how to put together and take apart an engine and like all the different types of things that go along with two stroke design.
00:10:04
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And Engin Tricks was a company that used to make a lot of aftermarket billet parts for them back in the late 90s or early 2000s. And I think my first aftermarket part I ever bought was like from an actual shop in a display case and it was an Engin Tricks gas cap when I was like, I wanna say 11 or 12 years old, maybe 13. can't remember exactly.
00:10:32
Jon Dillehay 2SM
But, um you know, what I'm trying to say is is I love machining, but the way I got into machining was from falling in love with motorsports and these like two stroke different applications.
00:10:45
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Obviously, I fell in love with motocross as well and dirt bikes. That was another popular thing that we did growing up in Southern California. you know, racing and and going out in the hills and jumping and exploring and riding trails.
00:10:59
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And also owning a dirt bike is what taught me a lot of mechanical things like on the engineering side and mechanic side of things. And that got me really excited. And when you get into these types of sports, you start to learn that parts are like,
00:11:18
Jon Dillehay 2SM
80% of like what makes a bike good. it like kind of forces you to learn what's good, what's not, how things work. and and it just taught me a lot. So to make a long story short, 2SM Performance is short for Two Stroke Mafia, which was like a freestyle motocross crew that I had growing up in Southern California. It was like a a freestyle team.
00:11:43
Jon Dillehay 2SM
We used to ride and and compete. But um eventually got out of that. And when wanted to make a professional company, I just abbreviated it to an acronym, which is 2SM. Because, you know, mafia is a little edgy, a little controversial.
00:12:01
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So I just went with 2SM Performance. And that was my dirt bike line. And honestly, i started out with 2SM Performance while I was working at a job shop full time.
00:12:13
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I would come home and make parts and that was like my little brand. It was like a passion project that I've always wanted to do. and um, the way engine tricks came about was i was actually making parts for engine tricks.
00:12:28
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It turned out that I was on Instagram one day and I was getting back into go pads just for fun, just to build one. And, uh, have have fun on the weekends. And I messaged the the owner of engine tricks and he actually turned out to be in Austin, Texas, right down the road from me.
00:12:45
Jon Dillehay 2SM
and I had just gotten my, uh, my little bench mill that I converted to CNC with NEMA stepper motors and a pokies 57 CNC breakout board.
00:12:58
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I was like, yeah, I can make parts. Like, let me know. like I've always wanted to make parts for engine tricks and,
00:13:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:04
Jon Dillehay 2SM
he came over one day and i bought some parts off him and he saw my machine and he's like you know what i think i need some levers can you make levers i'm like i can try man and that was like one of my first parts that i ever made with fusion 360 and yeah man it was just awesome so anyways to make a long story even shorter Engine Tricks, it it came up for sale. I had ended up making tons of parts for this guy. He's like one of my best customers to this day. And he wanted to get out of the game and he told me Engine Tricks was for sale. And I already had all the programs, all the fixtures.
00:13:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And he gave me this like really, really good price. I just, I couldn't pass up. At first I wasn't gonna buy it because I already had enough on my plate with 2SM. But I talked to Noelle, my girlfriend slash common law wife, and she said, no, you can't you can't pass that up. You need to buy Engine Tricks. You're stupid if you don't.
00:14:11
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So that's how Engine Tricks came came about.
00:14:15
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:14:15
Curt
Oh, that's awesome.
00:14:17
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:14:19
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So it was like a childhood company growing up.
00:14:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, because
00:14:19
Curt
I will say, though,
00:14:21
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I idolized and now I own it through a really crazy series of events.
00:14:24
jamie peacock
you do...
00:14:28
Curt
that's wild.
00:14:29
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:14:29
Curt
I will also also say it's a 2SM. Yeah, it's a great company name. But I think all like dirt bike people have the best logos on earth. Like your 2SM logo looks so cool. And like, that's like unanimous across like everybody that's into dirt bikes. i'm like, you guys just know how to do art. It's so cool.
00:14:49
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, we're pretty cool. We like style.
00:14:50
Curt
yeah ah
00:14:52
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It's a very stylish industry for sure.
00:14:56
Curt
Fair, yeah, yeah.
00:14:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, those so you do the you do the Goped decks, the Billet Goped decks. You've got quite a cool fixture on there. we yeah You and I have been chatting for a long time on Instagram. um I remember hitting up about the the turk out on your one sharp machine that had shat the bed.
00:15:14
jamie peacock
And then you just put a block of aluminium, milled level and carried on with your day.
00:15:14
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. ha Yeah. That's what my machine repair man told me to do was just like put a sub plate on that thing and just shave it flat and just run it.
00:15:19
jamie peacock
And I mean, that's... Yeah.
00:15:27
Jon Dillehay 2SM
i was like, all right, I'll fix it one day.
00:15:29
jamie peacock
yeah and that's ah Yeah, that's how you're doing your go-ped decks currently is a is on that machine. now um
00:15:37
Jon Dillehay 2SM
works great still. so
00:15:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, still works fine. Like some of the engraving you do on your anodized parts is just insane. Like, absolutely nuts.
00:15:45
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Thank you. Yeah, I love it.
00:15:48
jamie peacock
That looks
00:15:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I learned a lot about engraving, especially with anodized. When I first started, i was using stuff like center drills to engrave. And I quickly learned that going from center drills and champers to ball end mills was like a big jump in quality.
00:16:07
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Huge. And when I first started, like i was getting flaking on the anodized when it would engrave. I'd get all this flakiness, like that the lines would look like hairy.
00:16:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:16:19
Jon Dillehay 2SM
and I was like, oh my God, what am I going to do? Like it it took me why quite a while to perfect the engraving. And now it's just second nature to me. You know, I've got all the speeds ands and tooling.
00:16:32
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It's not hard at all. I don't even think about it.
00:16:35
jamie peacock
I mean, you do a hell of a lot of engraving.
00:16:38
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:38
jamie peacock
Like, even even the machining on like the clutch covers and things. It's impressive. I have a few of those models that we've sent back and forth and holy cow to machine those things is not a not a trivial task.
00:16:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
No, it's a lot of 3D contouring and 3D machining, and it it took me a while to figure them out.
00:16:52
jamie peacock
No.
00:16:54
jamie peacock
Yeah. Everything is surfaced.
00:16:59
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, a lot of surfacing.
00:17:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:17:01
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Absolutely. And they're thin walls, too, which is another trick to it, getting them to be anatomical and and sit flush on the engine case.
00:17:03
jamie peacock
Okay, but at this point, you got to Yeah. adds a whole other dimension.
00:17:13
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:17:13
jamie peacock
Yeah. They're already really cool. So yeah, we met up at IMTS last year. Well, the year before last.
00:17:20
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:17:22
jamie peacock
Timeshares flown.
00:17:23
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I know, man.
00:17:24
jamie peacock
um
00:17:25
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It's coming up quick.
00:17:25
jamie peacock
And at that point, ah can't remember if you had bought the second Sharp yet.
00:17:31
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I had not.
00:17:31
jamie peacock
You bought it just
John's Machine Acquisition Journeys
00:17:32
Jon Dillehay 2SM
When I had met you, it was probably two months before I got the second sharp.
00:17:32
jamie peacock
hadn't you?
00:17:36
jamie peacock
Okay, you bought it just after. Because we have a question about sharps from Norman, everyone's favorite Tormach employee.
00:17:38
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yes. correct Mm-hmm.
00:17:46
jamie peacock
He wanted to know, why did you choose sharp machines? Pluses and minuses on them.
00:17:53
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh my gosh, this is another really crazy nostalgic story. You guys ready? All right.
00:17:58
jamie peacock
Let's do it.
00:18:02
Jon Dillehay 2SM
going back to being a kid and being in the extreme sports world of motocross and skateboarding, et cetera, I went with my stepdad to this trade show called Invert 2000. This was literally like in the year 2000.
00:18:19
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And it was this big trade show for all the different action sports. And they had a live freestyle motocross demo. And they had all these different booths that we walked around. And literally, Sharp must have been there. Because I remember learning about CNC machines and machining through GoPeds.
00:18:37
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Because I was, like, desperate to know how these beautiful anodized parts were made. I i had no idea. You know, like for all I know, you could have thrown ah a piece of billet in an oven and press the button.
00:18:49
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I'm like, how does it do that? Like, I didn't know how an end mill worked or anything.
00:18:52
jamie peacock
Wait, what do you mean? That's not how it works.
00:18:56
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I was one day I was complaining to the guy at the go pet shop. i'm like, why are these so expensive? He's like, do you know the machines that it takes to make this like the electricity per hour?
00:19:07
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Anyways, I don't want to go off topic, but I was at this trade show and I had heard about CNC machines and I grabbed this brochure from Sharp. I guess Sharp was there and they had the machines on like the brochure but back when people actually had like printed it printed out.
00:19:24
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I mean, they had them at IMTS, but it was more prevalent back then, print media.
00:19:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, but not the same.
00:19:29
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I had had it on my wall as a kid in my bedroom, this machine. Like a dream one day, I hope to have a CNC machine and the Sharp was on my wall.
00:19:41
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I totally ended up forgetting about it. Like when I, you know, turned 18 or 20 and I moved off to college and in Utah, I had to put all my stuff in boxes and forgotten about it.
00:19:54
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Anyways, when I was working, at a job shop and I had my little, uh, bench mill converted. I didn't convert it myself. I'm not super nerds like you guys. I wish I was smart enough, quick enough to like make the everything work, but I had them do the conversion. I bought the PM 728 BT and I took it to them in Houston, Texas, and they put on all the steppers and made the the motor mount adapter pieces and they put it all together for me for like a really good price.
00:20:28
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It was heavy metal CNC, RIP to the owner. Guy was a really good dude. um But um I don't know if you guys have seen that video on YouTube with Dr. Flo.
00:20:41
Jon Dillehay 2SM
He made CNC conversion.
00:20:42
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:20:44
Jon Dillehay 2SM
he is the guy that was using the heavy metal heavy metal CNC kit. And that's how I found out about them. And they were a local to me in Texas. And I had called him and he said if I bought the mill, he would convert it for me.
00:20:57
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And ah he ended up doing that. Anyways, farther down the road, i had my little converted mill in my garage and the owner had died.
00:21:08
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I called him to ask about a part or I needed a coupling or something for my ball screw. And the, his partner, the guy that helped convert the machines with them told me that ended up saying, Hey, we have our ah machine for sale.
00:21:23
Jon Dillehay 2SM
We have two machines for sale. We have a Mazak quick turn lathe and we have this sharp mill. And if you want to buy a machine, we'll give you a super good price, $14,000 and it's yours.
00:21:39
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I was like, really want, I think you started at a higher number than that.
00:21:40
Curt
Nice.
00:21:44
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I think we like that's what we came down to. But I had no idea that that machine on my wall as a kid was that machine, a Sharp SV2412, 2412. And and um one day I was digging through my stuff and I found the brochure and it had like all the specs for the machine on there, you know, the rapid speeds, the horsepower, all that.
00:22:10
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I'm like, dude, it's a sign. I need to buy this machine.
00:22:14
Curt
Oh.
00:22:15
jamie peacock
Mm-hmm.
00:22:15
Jon Dillehay 2SM
it was like the stars align. it was I don't know. i just had a super good feeling about it. So I ended up buying the machine and I, you know, thousands of dollars later after buying the phase converter, the rigging, you know, moving it and all that stuff. I had the sharp and honestly at first,
00:22:38
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like I didn't know what I was getting into. Like I didn't know that like box ways and, you know, linear guide rails are different and all that. But I just knew it was a 40 taper machine and it was very capable.
00:22:55
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And honestly, I like that it has box ways. I think box ways are fucking cool. Pardon in my French, but it's like if I want to run ink and all in that thing or titanium, No problem.
00:23:06
Jon Dillehay 2SM
You know, it's been such a rigid, solid machine. And ah honestly, I kind of got on the hype train about the the sharps myself.
00:23:17
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I don't know if you guys know Possum Solutions is Jarrett Morgan.
00:23:21
Curt
Oh, yeah. Weird.
00:23:21
jamie peacock
yes.
00:23:22
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I had met him through a Facebook machining group called Small Business Machinist Group or Small Business Machine owner machine Shop Owners Group.
00:23:33
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And that's actually how I found out about you guys. I found Kurt through meeting him. I was talking to him and we were talking about our bench mills because he also had the same bench mill as me, the the precision Matthews.
00:23:49
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And um yeah, I'm going off on a wild tangent right now. But yeah.
00:23:54
jamie peacock
That's fine. Tangents are cool.
00:23:55
Curt
I hope.
00:23:56
Jon Dillehay 2SM
i I was so hyped on the sharp. Me and him, we both got our sharps around the same time. i think he, I got my sharp and then he got his because I had told him about it.
00:24:08
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So a little background info, Jared got his sharp because of me.
00:24:15
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So that's the whole sharp story.
00:24:16
jamie peacock
last Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Don't worry about tangents. Train wheels touch the rail at a tangent. It's fine.
00:24:23
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I was planning on on going into like how I met you guys anyway, but everything is so interlinked. It's like it's hard to not brush over the subject, you know.
00:24:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
00:24:34
Curt
Well, and the weirdest thing is, so the conversion kit on my machine is also a heavy metal conversion kit.
00:24:41
Jon Dillehay 2SM
No way.
00:24:42
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah. I didn't realize it till you said it, but I'm like, yeah, it's, it's, it's got heavy metal engraved all over it. And I was like, I didn't know what it was.
00:24:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
it.
00:24:49
Curt
i was just like, Oh, some guy's company or whatever. Like I bought it from, I think a third party vendor.
00:24:53
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Really?
00:24:53
Curt
Yeah. It's all made by heavy yeah heavy metal stuff. So that's that's kind of cool. Yeah.
00:24:57
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. Yeah. They were a great company, man. The owner was a really good guy. He was a really good guy.
00:25:05
Curt
Wild, wild.
00:25:05
jamie peacock
I'm always astonished how tight knit this community is.
00:25:08
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. It changed my life, man.
00:25:09
jamie peacock
like everybody
00:25:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:10
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Getting that little machine.
00:25:10
jamie peacock
yeah Everybody knows everybody.
00:25:13
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. yeah
00:25:15
jamie peacock
It's still that's interesting how tightly knit it is.
00:25:18
Curt
Huh.
00:25:19
jamie peacock
Danik and I are actually discussing today um because we were discussing buying machines and things. and I was like, yeah, I'm not sure how John got his first machine because we Like I know Kurt's story, i know my story. I was wondering how you got your first machine and how you took that step forward.
00:25:38
jamie peacock
i mean, you got that machine at a killer deal.
00:25:41
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:25:42
jamie peacock
No, it makes makes a lot of sense to make the jump at that price. Because that that's the thing, like Danica, how do you make the jump from a hobby machine to a full-size machine?
00:25:47
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. so
00:25:54
jamie peacock
It's not an easy step if you are trying to run a business on a converted hobby machine.
00:25:56
Jon Dillehay 2SM
No.
00:26:00
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I didn't know how bad I had it until I got a real industrial machine. And i was like, Oh, yeah,
00:26:05
Curt
Yep.
00:26:07
Jon Dillehay 2SM
The thing has been collecting dust ever since. Like, it's still sitting in the corner.
00:26:10
jamie peacock
Dude, literally the slow EO, used it to square a block of steel up yesterday because the LK was running and I was kind of running out of daytime.
00:26:18
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:26:20
jamie peacock
I mean, I machined a hundred parts on it today. The cycle time was 20 seconds. That's the only job it does. Like it's relegated to stupid little jobs.
00:26:28
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Obzero. Obzero for life.
00:26:30
jamie peacock
Yeah. well today ah today it was making me decent money, but yeah, it's like, it's relegated to stupid shit I don't want to put in the LK.
00:26:31
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Slow-io. There you go. I think I'm... I'm going to set mine back up in the corner. i already bought a new hydraulic ram for my engine hoist to move it.
00:26:44
Jon Dillehay 2SM
ah was going to set it up, but my hydraulic cylinder that moves my engine hoist up and down got a leak in it.
00:26:45
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:26:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Harper Freight. Chinese, anyways. I ordered a new one.
00:26:55
jamie peacock
Harbour Freight's your favourite company.
00:26:55
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Once I get that, I give them a lot of money, man, because I'm a cheap ass, and I keep wondering why it's breaking,
00:27:00
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:27:04
Jon Dillehay 2SM
you know
00:27:05
jamie peacock
Well, speaking of Harbour Freight things, Rebecca from Millspec Manufacturing asked how many Harbour Freight bandsaws have you gone through so far?
00:27:11
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I
00:27:15
Jon Dillehay 2SM
think I'm on my fourth or fifth one now in two years.
00:27:19
jamie peacock
Oh, geez. Yeah, that's brilliant.
00:27:21
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:27:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:22
Curt
so many.
00:27:22
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Well, you what? It's
00:27:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Community and Equipment Discussions
00:27:24
Jon Dillehay 2SM
like, you can't trust it.
00:27:27
Jon Dillehay 2SM
You get $300 for a pretty capable bandsaw when you get like a good one. Because they're all Chinese and they come in different batches.
00:27:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:36
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And you can tell that some factories put more time and care into making them than the other ones that you get. you know When they give you the box with the saw at Harbor Freight, it's that kind of like a roll of the dice if you're getting a good one or not.
00:27:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And when you get a good one for that price, it's actually pretty capable and it's very economical.
00:27:52
Curt
yeah
00:27:57
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And also the amount of space I have here in my shop, I'm in a two car garage in a residential area. If I get like a big full size industrial bandsaw, I'm barely going to be able to walk around in my garage.
00:28:11
Jon Dillehay 2SM
You know what I mean? So it's like I have reasons to my madness.
00:28:12
jamie peacock
Yeah,
00:28:15
Jon Dillehay 2SM
But yeah, I think I'm on the fourth or fifth one.
00:28:20
jamie peacock
I think we need to get you a proper motor for it next time it dies.
00:28:20
Jon Dillehay 2SM
lost count at this time.
00:28:24
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I need to find like good motors for him because the things that keep going out on them are the motor.
00:28:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:31
Jon Dillehay 2SM
The blade always falls.
00:28:31
jamie peacock
So I'll look at mine.
00:28:33
Jon Dillehay 2SM
There's no...
00:28:33
jamie peacock
I'll look at my one tomorrow and send you a picture.
00:28:34
Jon Dillehay 2SM
What did you call it? Thermal detection? Is that what you called it that it needs?
00:28:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's got mine's got a So mine, I blew the motor up, and then I bought a replacement, a bigger replacement motor with a thermal overload on it. So if it stalls, yeah, it draws too much current and trips, and then you just go boop the thing and it carries on running.
00:28:46
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Thermal overload. Yeah.
00:28:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:28:53
jamie peacock
But I also leave my belt slack. So if it stalls, it'll just spin and eat the belt to ship, but your motor survives.
00:28:56
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Smart.
00:28:59
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. You leave your belt with a little bit of slack on the pulleys, so if it stalls, it'll just do a burnout on the pulley.
00:29:01
jamie peacock
Because... Yeah. So... Yeah, my source from Ardendorf, which is effectively Harbor Freight here, when it arrived, the whole frame did this every time the belt went round because the wheels were out of round and they would st be staked and the whole frame would move back through. it You could see it.
00:29:22
jamie peacock
So I pulled the wheels off, put them in the lathe, skimmed the odies, and then since then it's been fine.
00:29:22
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:29:25
Jon Dillehay 2SM
hello
00:29:26
jamie peacock
It's cut probably close on 20,000 pieces of material.
00:29:30
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. Yeah. your Yours looks a lot better than mine though.
00:29:32
jamie peacock
Like they...
00:29:35
Jon Dillehay 2SM
was it called the name of the
00:29:35
jamie peacock
So mine, I had to replace the brass gear because I wore it out.
00:29:38
Jon Dillehay 2SM
What's the name of the stories that you get them from in South Africa?
00:29:42
jamie peacock
Ardendorf. It's basically, a yeah it's basically Harbor Freight, but yeah.
00:29:43
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Ardendorf.
00:29:46
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. li I don't know. Your saw looks better than mine though. I will say.
00:29:50
jamie peacock
No, it's the same. It's literally the same.
00:29:52
Jon Dillehay 2SM
The same one? Okay.
00:29:53
jamie peacock
Pretty much the same. Out of the same factory, just different paint job.
00:29:56
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Okay.
00:29:58
jamie peacock
Yeah. Like, all that shit comes out the same factory.
00:30:01
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, if I find a good hookup on those motors, like if I find a good motor that will like bolt onto of those, I'll just buy like two or three motors and just keep the same saw.
00:30:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, they're pretty standard.
00:30:14
jamie peacock
but You shouldn't need that many motors. he's the One motor should be fine.
00:30:18
Jon Dillehay 2SM
like steve dubai like ah I it.
00:30:18
Curt
Awesome. awesome
00:30:20
Jon Dillehay 2SM
What I want is the Tormach CNC band. That's what I really want.
00:30:23
jamie peacock
Yes. They are nice and compact and nice and expensive.
00:30:26
Jon Dillehay 2SM
but It's like five or six grand. and it's like We ain't got it like that yet. We will. we We'll get there.
00:30:32
jamie peacock
Yeah. I want one of those two. But getting a chair costs more than the saw.
00:30:35
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Capital.
00:30:37
jamie peacock
literally cost more than the saw to ship it here so
00:30:38
Jon Dillehay 2SM
up
00:30:41
Jon Dillehay 2SM
yeah yeah You're in a tricky situation there in South Africa with all the logistics.
00:30:47
jamie peacock
yeah but lots of shops are going out business i can just go buy stuff for cheap that's always it's always a plan with the guys
00:30:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
Anodizing Challenges
00:30:57
jamie peacock
struggle here but aja so
00:30:57
Curt
Nice. nice
00:30:58
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So that's the band saw story.
00:31:02
jamie peacock
With your, so, okay, well, I know the dilemmas of your anodizing situation because we discuss this on a weekly basis. um We got a question from Windmill Motorsports.
00:31:13
jamie peacock
Is in-house anodizing to avoid blems or cost savings? And what about chemical exposure?
00:31:20
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Well, I don't do in-house anodizing, so I can't tell you.
00:31:21
jamie peacock
So,
00:31:24
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I'm not an anodizer.
00:31:25
jamie peacock
why do you want to do in-house anodizing though?
00:31:28
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I actually, last time we spoke, I have made the commitment. I'm going to do it. I'm going to make the wood divider so I'm not getting acid mist in my machine shop, rusting all my machines.
00:31:41
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:31:43
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I'm going to get the bathroom vent fan up into my ceiling to suck the acid fumes out. buy the power supply and just go from there. Just start out with little buckets and just play with it.
00:31:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:56
Jon Dillehay 2SM
You know, because
00:31:56
jamie peacock
100%. Yeah, so because your your your lead times are the killer right now. And batch sizes.
00:32:04
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, the lead times have have become very difficult because I was really spoiled before it and I didn't know it. I had a guy, um one city over up in Dallas, who was an amazing anodizer, did all the custom you know splatter, fade stuff, designs.
00:32:23
Jon Dillehay 2SM
This guy could literally make my logo like it was printed and anodize on the aluminum. Like he was amazing with masking.
00:32:33
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And like I met him on the DIY anodized group on Facebook.
00:32:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:39
Jon Dillehay 2SM
His name's Joe. And he was just amazing. Like this guy was my ace. and And he ended up buying ah his first house and moving and having to break down all his tanks and all his setups.
00:32:55
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And he plus he was already getting really overwhelmed with all the business he was getting because he did such good work. And when I would post my stuff, People would put two and two together and figure out that he was doing it. And then they would ask him.
00:33:11
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And it was just, it was too much for him, I guess. And he had to take a break for it from it after he moved. And he's set back up now, but he's doing like small stuff for fun.
00:33:25
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So anyways, like I had to find someone else, right. To do, really good colors and stuff. And that's hard to do to like find someone who's reliable. That's not going to scrap your parts and all that and do good colors.
00:33:40
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I found a guy that Joe recommended to me. i actually went through a couple shops and, The second place I used, I used once and then they, they moved their shop and were down for a while. So I had to move to another anodizer and this next guy, he's all the way in Pennsylvania.
00:33:58
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So just to get the parts there is either insanely expensive or it takes forever. So my lead times have gone way up and, um, I'm trying to go back and find some more shops closer to me that do good colors, but it's like, it always seems like they over etch the crap out of the aluminum. So you get all those lines and the the colors aren't great. And it's, it's just really hard, man.
00:34:25
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It's tough.
00:34:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. Anodizers are the devil. um So yeah.
00:34:33
Jon Dillehay 2SM
They got me by the balls. I'll tell you that.
00:34:36
jamie peacock
So that's why I would have it in house so I can do shit on a whim and control, what i' add pre preferably not scrap 20 bodies.
00:34:40
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I like how um you're – oh, that was awful, man. I felt so bad for you. i like, finally had talked to you and into outsourcing.
00:34:49
jamie peacock
Dude.
00:34:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I'm like, no, Jamie, just outsource. Trust me. It's going to be way easier for you. And you, like, finally did it. And then the second time you did it, that happened, and I was like, oh, my God.
00:35:02
jamie peacock
yeah no it's you yeah you can't control other people's quality it's i don't even think it's just africa think anodizers in general i think they all come from africa um yeah so like in my case i sent samples out when i first started with the mag bases with clear instruction of rack internally got the parts back and they claw marks on the outside i'm like
00:35:05
Jon Dillehay 2SM
That's insanity. Because Africa. We'll just say that.
00:35:13
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, pretty much.
00:35:27
jamie peacock
You had one job, literally one job. So then I pulled it in house. Back then I was using ink and all sorts of stupid shit. I actually have proper dyes. And then bought proper dyes when I did the Bolt Belt Kickstarter and I brought it in house so that I could control for blems and for idiots loading my parts.
00:35:46
jamie peacock
um as well as quick turnaround on large varieties of things like i keep mag bases machined and as orders come in i anodize to two requirements same thing with anchor points i keep the bodies machined uh then get order i anodize i can ship the next day it's yeah and then with regards to the chemical exposure uh don't drink the acid and don't dip your hand in the caustic soda and you'll be fine
00:35:57
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:02
Jon Dillehay 2SM
yeah
00:36:10
jamie peacock
um
00:36:10
Jon Dillehay 2SM
yeah
00:36:11
jamie peacock
Like the venting is super critical that you have a vent that runs all the time and just pulls any fumes. Like I built a hood over my acid tank and ah I was having some serious rust issues in the workshop and that solved it overnight.
00:36:24
jamie peacock
Like as soon as that was just being vented all the time, the problem went away.
00:36:27
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:36:28
jamie peacock
And if you are wearing gloves and they have a hole in them and your finger feels slippery, it's because there's caustic soda in your glove making soap out of your finger.
00:36:37
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, good to know.
00:36:38
jamie peacock
Yes, it's lovely.
00:36:39
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:36:39
jamie peacock
Yes, I learned this one the hard way. um But yeah, as far as chemicals go, it's not the worst things in the world. little bit of sulfuric acid down there never hurts anyone.
00:36:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I've seen you guys had the guest on last time, Naudie, Naudie's in Australia.
00:36:52
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:36:54
Jon Dillehay 2SM
i love his work too, man. I see his feed on Instagram and he does amazing stuff with what he's got.
00:36:56
jamie peacock
He does some beautiful stuff.
00:37:00
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:37:01
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I like how he it makes everything raw, puts it on the shelf, and then anodizes it himself as needed.
00:37:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:37:09
Jon Dillehay 2SM
That's definitely definitely like you do with your mag bases.
00:37:11
jamie peacock
It's, yeah.
00:37:13
Jon Dillehay 2SM
That's the business model that we're I'm probably going end up going with where –
00:37:17
jamie peacock
It's definitely, it's definitely the way to go as a small operator where you don't have the capital to have 10 of each color in stock all the time because it's a hell of a lot of capital tighter, especially when you've got 10 different color options.
00:37:18
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. and vanish
00:37:26
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. Yeah. When shit's not selling, that's a problem. Having that much inventory.
00:37:32
jamie peacock
Yes, like, yeah, it's a huge, it can be a huge issue. So that's ah yeah i thought that was a very interesting question about the anodizing. um Before we continue, we need to chat about our Patreons because they make the wheels on the train go round and round.
00:37:46
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:37:51
jamie peacock
Our Patreons are all patronizing so that we can go to IMTS and not sleep on the street like hobos. um Yes, words. They will get access to the after show where we'll probably be deranged and, you know, normal fun stuff.
00:38:07
jamie peacock
um Bridgerton comes out in three more days. So next week, there'll probably be a Bridgerton rant because I will be forced to watch it over the weekend.
00:38:14
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Danica, I'm making you watch that.
00:38:15
jamie peacock
a Danica makes me watch it and the cart scene still annoys me.
00:38:19
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And women, they love the British accents, man. they love it.
00:38:22
jamie peacock
They do. They're very weird. um
00:38:25
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:38:26
jamie peacock
I was gonna try and transition that into actually yes, speaking of British accents. No, wait, shit. I'm sure we had a Okay, don't worry about that. I thought we had a British Patreon. I'm wondering if this list is up to date.
00:38:39
jamie peacock
Anyway. Back on topic.
Focus on Motorsport Projects
00:38:42
jamie peacock
Patreons get access to the after show and to Q&As when we do put them up there, which is not very often. All the top tier Patreons get a shout out every episode, including...
00:38:51
jamie peacock
jade from benchmark twenty luke from fantastic go had a long chat with on the weekend aio from subtract manufacturing and thirty three other companies jason s EJ from Nocturnal Welding, The Aussie Machinist, Christian Olsen, Charles Watt, Kyle from Cursed Machine, Matt from Offworld Gear who makes an awesome little laugh, and Alex B. Thank you to all the Patreons. You make the wheels on the train go round and round.
00:39:14
jamie peacock
I really like having that on the soundboard.
00:39:14
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It's cute noise, Jamie. It's a cute noise.
00:39:17
jamie peacock
It is. It's a train noise. Because we are a train enthusiasts, apparently. Choo-choo.
00:39:22
Curt
Yes.
00:39:24
jamie peacock
It's the choo-choo-choo. ah don that's ah I saw a reference to Charlie the Unicorn the other day. It was great. That's a proper old school internet.
00:39:32
Jon Dillehay 2SM
pretend like I know what that is.
00:39:34
jamie peacock
oh It's proper old school internet.
00:39:39
Jon Dillehay 2SM
smile and nod.
00:39:39
jamie peacock
So, smile and nod. Pretend like you know what's going on. So, John, when we started chatting, you were doing a bit of job shop work.
00:39:47
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:39:48
jamie peacock
You are now phasing that out as much as possible.
00:39:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, yeah.
00:39:51
jamie peacock
Well, you're niching down in the motorsports type section.
00:39:55
Jon Dillehay 2SM
For sure.
00:39:57
jamie peacock
Because the the last job shop work you did, well, you're busy with now is motocross related. Yeah.
00:40:02
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, yeah. Honestly, i don't mind the job shop stuff as long as it's like in my wheelhouse with the industries that I serve and work in. and Most of my customers are my friends anyways, so it just works out.
00:40:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, because, I mean, I know you were doing some other tool steel stuff. i'm in I'm in a similar situation now where guys want steel work done. I'm like, sorry, just go somewhere else. We've niched down in what we do.
00:40:28
jamie peacock
We rarely kits it out for aluminium, not for steel.
00:40:29
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Terrible.
00:40:30
jamie peacock
Like, I'll do steel for my own products and for odds and ends, but I don't want to be production milling steel on a BT30 machine. Yeah.
00:40:38
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, yeah, especially on the BT-30.
00:40:41
jamie peacock
Yeah. It can do it just... Yeah, sorry. What the hell is this? Getting interesting messages on Instagram. Ah, nice.
00:40:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, those um drill tap machines are actually really awesome. I think the next machine that I'm going to go with is probably like a speedio style machine for what I do.
00:41:00
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:41:00
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Honestly, it just makes sense.
00:41:01
jamie peacock
I would suggest go BBT if you can because you're used to the 40 taper rigidity.
00:41:07
Jon Dillehay 2SM
What's that?
00:41:09
jamie peacock
Dual contact, so it touches on the taper and the face.
00:41:12
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Okay.
00:41:12
jamie peacock
So it's a much more rigid, yeah.
00:41:12
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Is that like kind of big plus concept?
00:41:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, big plus.
00:41:16
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:41:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, BBT is big plus.
00:41:17
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Mm-hmm.
00:41:17
jamie peacock
Even in the machine I'm looking at is a BBT 20,000 RPM spindle.
00:41:23
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I was looking at the, when we were at IMTS, that smart machine tools, mini mill had a big plus spindle on it.
00:41:29
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:41:31
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And that's where I learned about big plus. And I thought that was a really cool technology that they're doing now on the spindles.
00:41:34
jamie peacock
Yeah. I'm wondering if the Nomura machines will be at IMTS this time.
00:41:43
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Were they last time?
00:41:45
jamie peacock
I don't think so.
00:41:47
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I know ah Chris Zappertini was talking about those and he said they're really awesome machines.
00:41:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:52
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And I looked at them.
00:41:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, I didn't see any there.
00:41:55
jamie peacock
The only drill taps I saw there, well, obviously the Robo Drills, the Brothers. um There was one at the EMG didn't have a booth. It was was there as you come in. I can't remember what booth it was.
00:41:55
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:42:09
jamie peacock
They had a drill tap that they were raging about it being super rigid and whatnot. i might do It's that's a 30 taper machine.
00:42:15
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, that's the that's the only thing with the drill taps that I really can't get over.
00:42:16
jamie peacock
Rigidity is stuck.
00:42:21
Jon Dillehay 2SM
i don't know why I have this stuck in my head is that 30 taper is just gay to me. It's like it's it's not – I think it's not rigid.
00:42:28
jamie peacock
It'll be fine, i promise.
00:42:32
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like I was talking with Possum about this. And I was looking at the ah the DM machines because it's like the best of both worlds with Haas.
00:42:35
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:40
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like you're getting the drill tap style turret and machine, but you get a 40 taper spindle. And he he disagreed with me. He was like, dude, if you're going to get a drill tap machine, like the whole point is fast rapid.
00:42:53
jamie peacock
ah
00:42:53
Jon Dillehay 2SM
30 taper is fine. He's like, dude, trust me. 30 taper is fine with aluminum. So I guess...
00:43:01
jamie peacock
It was a sagami machine that I saw at IMTS. So I just pulled the map up so i could try to figure out what I saw.
00:43:06
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, okay. Well, you got to put on the song, Jamie.
00:43:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:43:09
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Googling on the podcast.
00:43:11
jamie peacock
Well, I was being stealthy. Yeah.
00:43:13
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I caught you.
00:43:16
jamie peacock
Next time I'm stealthy, I'll play it. um No, like for aluminum, 30 taper is fine. Obviously don't stick out like 20 inches and you'll be okay.
00:43:25
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:43:25
jamie peacock
I mean, I regularly run a... Wait, hang on. Imperializer because my brain is cooked. um I regularly run a 1.75 inch cut with a half inch end mill.
00:43:40
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Okay.
00:43:41
jamie peacock
That's the side of the anchor points. That's how that's machined.
00:43:44
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. One and three quarters deep.
00:43:47
jamie peacock
one and three quarters deep with a half inch in mill.
00:43:49
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. Is that full full length of flute?
00:43:50
jamie peacock
but ah Yeah, that's full length of fruit.
00:43:53
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:55
jamie peacock
And you've got to you've got to manage your feeds and speeds, but yeah, you can get away with some serious material removal.
00:43:56
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Nice.
00:44:02
jamie peacock
I run into...
00:44:03
Jon Dillehay 2SM
ah you Are you stepping down at all when roughing or do you just rough the whole perimeter all in one go at full depth?
00:44:09
jamie peacock
um I rough the top a little bit and it gets pre-done and then I drop to full depth and I just take the last like 40 millimeters off in one go.
00:44:13
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:44:16
jamie peacock
um
00:44:17
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I usually try and do with that.
00:44:17
jamie peacock
ma My roughing end wall that I use, I cannot push to its full potential because I run out of RPM. It wants 18,000 RPM to be at its happy place.
00:44:24
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. Oh, that's ridiculous.
00:44:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, and so it's running now at 12,000 RPM. I've had to obviously, it's feed per tooth, the calculation. So it's slower than it could be going.
00:44:37
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Mm-hmm.
00:44:37
jamie peacock
And that'll put me with a 30% step over. I get 99% spindle load at 30 millimeters depth of cut.
00:44:46
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:44:48
jamie peacock
And that will literally move a full ton of material before it's even showing any signs of wear.
00:44:54
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Okay.
00:44:55
jamie peacock
Especially now in the hydraulic holder.
00:44:55
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Very cool. What kind of in-mill is it?
00:44:58
jamie peacock
um Hoffman Vega or something.
00:45:03
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Can I ah time out for a quick a second?
00:45:04
jamie peacock
I'll tell you now.
00:45:05
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I got to plug this laptop in.
00:45:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, no stress.
00:45:07
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Wait a
00:45:10
jamie peacock
Okay, we're back. John's plugged in now. He's feeling electrified.
00:45:12
Jon Dillehay 2SM
minute.
00:45:14
jamie peacock
um Yeah, so I use a Hoffman Ranty. I refuse to read that name properly. I'm actually going to just put it in the in the show notes quickly so that we can put it there if anyone is actually curious.
00:45:24
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It's like Varatny.
00:45:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, whatever.
00:45:26
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Varatny.
00:45:26
jamie peacock
Some German fucking cutter. I heard about them at, well, they high tech machine tools were the only guys at machine tool Africa willing to sell me a tool because I was having chip management issues the week before machine tool Africa, where I was roughing 30 millimeter deep case gauges and I was battling to manage shaves.
00:45:28
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Russian.
00:45:38
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Mm-hmm.
00:45:46
jamie peacock
I'm like, I want a corn cob mill. KineMetal straight up said your machine doesn't have enough horsepower, so I will not buy KineMetal. um And yeah, I went to high tech. I'm like, tell me what tools you got. Had a chat to to Chris there.
00:46:00
jamie peacock
And he was willing to sell me the one on the demo. i got to go find the box in the back, like a little storeroom thing. And he sold me that cut.
00:46:07
Jon Dillehay 2SM
hu
00:46:07
jamie peacock
So I came back the next morning, I'm like, dude, that thing's magic. It's called the slot maker or something. I call it the dust maker because it just evaporates the aluminium.
00:46:17
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, I hate that for the coolant thing. RIP coolant thing.
00:46:19
jamie peacock
I know, it's horrible for the coolant tank, but yeah. um For the material removal, you can't beat it. I took a four-inch diameter piece of aluminum, took an inch off the top in 40 seconds.
00:46:30
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh yeah. Corn cop style.
00:46:32
jamie peacock
It's...
00:46:32
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Knuckle rougher.
Machining Efficiency and Waste Management
00:46:34
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, knuckle rougher.
00:46:34
Jon Dillehay 2SM
so any son Yeah. That's what I run.
00:46:36
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's insane.
00:46:38
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Best.
00:46:38
jamie peacock
it's just It just ruins your coolant tank. That's only problem.
00:46:40
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Hell yeah, it does.
00:46:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's actually something on the agenda for the coming week, is to 3D scan the back of my machine.
00:46:46
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:46:50
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, what do you got up your sleeve, Jamie?
00:46:51
jamie peacock
so that I can design... I'm going to build a custom chip management system for it because the the trays I have in there, they're not doing it.
00:46:58
Jon Dillehay 2SM
don't know how you find time to do all this shit, Jamie. What are you? Are you a job shop? Are are you a retrofit?
00:47:05
jamie peacock
I'm at everything.
00:47:06
Jon Dillehay 2SM
What? Dude, you have all these crazy projects and while you're running jobs at the same time, I don't even know how you do it.
00:47:09
jamie peacock
I do all the things.
00:47:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:15
jamie peacock
So the issue I have right
00:47:16
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Your time management must be amazing. Cause.
00:47:19
jamie peacock
the The issue I have now is chip management with the HTPE I'm running. I fill the entire back of the machine.
00:47:25
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, plastic.
00:47:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:27
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Ooh.
00:47:27
jamie peacock
And that's that's machining at...
00:47:28
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It's those black parts, those ah electrical cases.
00:47:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:32
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:47:32
jamie peacock
Machining at boobs per minute. And I fill the entire back of my machine in three parts.
00:47:32
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:47:40
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, that's horrible.
00:47:40
jamie peacock
I machine three parts. in Yeah. So I need something and then...
00:47:42
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Are you using air or are you running coolant?
00:47:46
jamie peacock
coolant.
00:47:46
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, no, you need to be using pressurized air.
00:47:46
jamie peacock
um yeah Otherwise, no screw that coolant. Otherwise it gets on the tapers of the tools. um If it doesn't wash down, is if you blow it down.
00:47:56
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, the coolant washing it down keeps the... Okay, that makes sense.
00:48:00
jamie peacock
keeps it yeah keeps a bit better. um But yeah, the the issue I'm running into there is now every three parts i have to clean out the back. Also, the small chips are getting through the filter and getting into my skimmer.
00:48:12
jamie peacock
So I came out the front the other morning and there's coolant on the floor because the chips got through the skimmer and clogged the return bar.
00:48:20
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh yeah.
00:48:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, so HTP is a little bit of a problem. And also with the knuckle roughers, the shavings are getting through the the chip trays. So i want to have my mate fabricate me ones with really fine mesh and then have them that I can just pull the whole tray out, dump it, put the tray back in.
00:48:37
jamie peacock
It can sit underwater. I don't care. under coolans
00:48:39
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:48:39
jamie peacock
I really don't care. It's just I don't want to get into my pumps. So I'm going to find some super thin mesh and make some new baskets for the machine.
00:48:43
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:48:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. I tried that batting that you suggested before.
00:48:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:52
Jon Dillehay 2SM
and the problem I was getting was the chips were building up in the bed and then they were just like falling back into the tank by where the auger is. And I was still getting chips in the tank.
00:49:02
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:49:05
jamie peacock
I had similar issues. So I've got the batting in my secondary filters and that fills up in like a matter of two days because the mesh is too coarse.
00:49:09
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Okay. Okay.
00:49:12
jamie peacock
So i think I'm going to try to source some really fine, either punched mesh or woven mesh and then make a new effectively a new chip tray.
00:49:13
Jon Dillehay 2SM
yeah
00:49:22
jamie peacock
But I'm going to make it as two baskets so I can just yeet the basket, dump it and put a new one in.
00:49:27
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Very cool.
00:49:28
jamie peacock
Like I would like to make an actual conveyor, but that's very complicated. And John Grimsmo won't share his files.
00:49:36
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Grimsima.
00:49:36
jamie peacock
Because he made one for his Speedio 500.
00:49:40
jamie peacock
And he mentioned that he would share them or share more about it and he just never did.
00:49:40
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So...
00:49:44
Jon Dillehay 2SM
kurt Kurt's so quiet over there. I want hear what Kurt's got going on. I know you love to talk, Jamie. want to hear what Kurt has to say.
00:49:51
jamie peacock
do.
00:49:53
Curt
I have not much going on.
00:49:53
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Jamie will talk to his ass off. Jamie will keep talking if you let him.
00:49:56
Curt
I just, oh, really? I had no idea. i am just amazed at your guys' like issues with chips because like I said, I can hold all the chips that I make in a day in my mouth.
00:50:04
Jon Dillehay 2SM
What else?
00:50:10
Curt
So it's like, none none of these are my issues.
00:50:14
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I know you're the pen guy.
00:50:14
Curt
It's interesting to hear.
00:50:15
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like, I know all you do mainly is pens. So I'm like interested to see what you've got going on. Like, I know your anodizing is completely different. were talking about anodizing, but you anodize with like electricity essentially.
00:50:26
Curt
Totally.
00:50:30
Curt
Yeah, titanium magnetizing is like the cheat code because you don't have to have any equipment. You can do it literally with Coca-Cola and 9-volt batteries. So it's like it doesn't, yeah, there's no fancy chemicals. There's no, yeah, it's it's super nice for that.
00:50:42
Curt
So just make all your products out of titanium. That's that's the key. Just ditch that aluminum business and go right titanium.
00:50:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I've never machined titanium, so...
00:50:51
Curt
Yeah, but you machined magnesium.
00:50:53
Jon Dillehay 2SM
yeah I did.
00:50:54
Curt
and that was that's That's way scarier than titanium. so
00:50:57
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, it was scary.
00:50:59
Curt
yeah Yeah, I know.
00:50:59
jamie peacock
Not as bad as the Codium.
00:51:03
Curt
Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I guess it's whatever you haven't machined is more scary. so yeah
00:51:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:08
Curt
ah Fair enough.
00:51:09
jamie peacock
Fair enough. But yeah, let's...
00:51:11
Curt
you You said, not to deflect questions from myself, but ah so you said 2SM performance. like do you Do you do that full time are you working, are you job shopping on the side? or like What makes up your your income if you want to talk about it?
00:51:24
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, yeah, took definitely. I'll talk about the business side of things. um Ideally, I'm trying to go full product line all the time between EngineTricks and 2SM Performance, which is hard to do because it's two different brands, two different applications.
00:51:42
Jon Dillehay 2SM
But occasionally i get friends that approach me in the industry and they say, hey, i have these parts, like I need a quote, can you make them? And a lot of the times I'll say no, but sometimes like if it's a part that I've always wanted to make, like these triple clamps that I'm about to make, I
Passion vs. Financial Reality in Business
00:52:01
Jon Dillehay 2SM
say yes. So um I'm not like ah job shop like I used to be where I was like making parts for – bending chops like making dyes or for communications companies uh doing stuff for photonics i am still technically doing jobs but i'm doing them like within my industries of motocross and two-stroke engines
00:52:26
Curt
Okay, cool. So you make up your entire salary sitting in your garage.
00:52:31
Jon Dillehay 2SM
basically yeah yeah oh i'm 100 full-time on my own in my garage correct yeah
00:52:35
Curt
Oh, cool. Cool, cool, cool.
00:52:39
Curt
Sorry, phone is freaking out.
00:52:39
Jon Dillehay 2SM
just like you.
00:52:40
Curt
It thinks we're talking. Yeah, exactly. we all We all ride the struggle bus together.
00:52:44
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. Yeah. You know, some months are better than others. Like, um, November and December were really good to me. They were like probably my best months ever for the product line and and the websites.
00:52:58
Jon Dillehay 2SM
January last month was really tough. It just completely dropped off and died. So when some jobs come along and I need them, I gladly take them. Like I won't turn anyone away. I'll at least look at what they're bringing along and I'll, you know, quote or no quote, but I'll look, you know.
00:53:19
Curt
what's your um like What's your mental plan for, like let's say, the next five years? like Do you want to stay in the same arena you're working on? Do you want to expand into different things? Do you want to develop more of your own product line? like what is What do you want to do as as John?
00:53:36
Jon Dillehay 2SM
How's John? Yeah, honestly, um originally,
00:53:40
Curt
like It doesn't have to make doesn't have to make financial sense because you'd be like, what do you want to pursue?
00:53:43
Jon Dillehay 2SM
know.
00:53:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:45
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Originally, i was like, man, i want to go full job shop. You know, I i want to make, I'll do aerospace and I'll have this big shop and I'm going to grow and all that.
00:53:57
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And, or do medical, ITAR, ISO, all that stuff, QC lab, do the whole thing. But honestly, like working in in job shops for most of my life and dealing with all that stuff, you know, um maximum material condition and dealing with GD&T and inspection and running CMMs. all It's just so stressful. You know, all the paperwork, you know, quality manuals. It's just like.
00:54:27
Jon Dillehay 2SM
when i really sat down and thought about it and this probably doesn't make the most financial sense to most people because I know it doesn't for me. And sometimes it's very painful, but what I'm doing with a two SM performance and engine tricks, basically what I did was I sat down and I closed my eyes and i'm like, if I had millions of dollars and money was no object,
00:54:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
whatever, and I can make any parts I want for fun, what would I make? And that's exactly what I'm doing right now. I'm doing all the stuff that I would do for fun as a passion, and I just happen to sell it.
00:55:05
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And some months, nobody buys my stuff. Well, not nobody, but it's sometimes it's hard to pay the bills and it's very, very painful because i conflate my self-worth with you know my bank account and You know how much people are buying for me, you know, who doesn't. Right.
00:55:23
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So it is quite painful sometimes, but some months are great and they're really great because I'm doing what I love.
00:55:24
Curt
Absolutely, yeah.
00:55:30
Jon Dillehay 2SM
and I'm making parts for industries that are fun. Like these are beautiful parts that when people buy them, they're excited. They're like, I've been wanting this part for months. I've been saving up. It's going on my dirt bike.
00:55:44
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I'm going to go to the track. it's I'm going to show it off. Like it's just brings people joy. And you know, when I leave the world, I hope that's like the mark and legacy that I leave is I just want to make people happy, man. Like,
00:55:57
Jon Dillehay 2SM
you know I don't want to make job shop parts that are all you know NDAs that nobody's ever going to see just so I can get rich. like I don't care about that. like I love machining and I love...
00:56:10
Jon Dillehay 2SM
you motocross and two stroke engines and engineering. Like that's what I love. they're They're fun to me. And I just want to bring other people joy. And sometimes that makes financial sense. Sometimes it doesn't.
00:56:23
Jon Dillehay 2SM
But to answer your question, eventually i do want to grow outside of the garage and I want to get a real industrial space. And I do want to have more machines. I would love, love to have a Matsura one day.
00:56:36
Jon Dillehay 2SM
or horizontal, like I would love that. That is definitely the goal. But right now I'm just trying to perfect, you know, I'm trying to crawl before I walk, right? Like I'm trying to perfect the art of like selling the products, like the placement on the website,
00:56:53
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like Noel and I were planning out the inside of my house. It's always changing. Like we're moving the shelves in the inventory. Like, okay, the material comes through the garage door. Okay, my computer is like right on the in the kitchen outside of the where you walk in from the garage. Now we're going to have the inventory racks here.
00:57:13
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And then we're going to have our tubs with the work orders and we've got yellow cards. label You know, it's a very, we're constantly trying to improve, like using like the 5S and the lean methods. And it like, I'm trying to just get better and better each day. And wherever that takes me, I hope, you know, it grows for sure.
00:57:34
Curt
Well, I think you have the the key point there of like anybody that I've talked to that actually likes what they do, they just naturally do it better than anybody else. Like if you're passionate about what you do, you're just going to make better product because you're like, I think this is cool.
00:57:44
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:57:49
Curt
I'm going to make it cool. I'm like, yeah, that's awesome.
00:57:50
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah. Yeah, it's not thought required.
00:57:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, you're actually going to care.
00:57:53
Curt
That's good.
00:57:53
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like, I just love it
00:57:57
Curt
Exactly. You're going to care. Yeah, totally.
00:58:02
Curt
Yeah, that's... that's I mean that's good. That's good goals. that's I don't know. I think that's what... Seems perfectly reasonable. Like...
00:58:11
jamie peacock
I like that you're slowly growing into it, not rushing out and buying a bunch of machines with giant machine loads and then hoping the work's there.
00:58:17
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:58:20
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
00:58:21
jamie peacock
Yeah. Because I think a lot of people do that. And yeah, sure, you can make work appear. But is it what you're passionate about doing is the thing.
00:58:33
jamie peacock
And also, so people are driven differently.
00:58:33
Curt
yeah.
00:58:35
jamie peacock
Like I've got a customer. um I mentioned him in the after show last week. he He's very money driven. Whereas I'm kind of like, yeah, I'll do it because it's cool or because I want to.
00:58:47
jamie peacock
Like, sure, I need my bills to be paid. But after that... I need to be doing stuff for the sake of doing stuff. Like, I'm happy to just plod along and be happy.
00:59:00
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, that's what it's all about. 100%. Yeah.
00:59:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:59:03
Curt
yeah egg Yeah, exactly. We're all going to die one day. Do what you like. and I mean, some people probably enjoy that like the like they grow bigger, grow faster added stress. I think everyone has their own tolerance for stress and what they want to deal with. And some people have super low ones. Some people have medium. Some people have high. it's like, yeah.
00:59:19
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I mean, at first, I never wanted to leave the garage. Like, I'm cool with the garage shop. I'm not in a rush.
00:59:26
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:26
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like, this is my home and my shop. Like, ah who I'm living the dream, you know?
00:59:32
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I had a customer drop in yesterday and, you know, he picked up some stuff and he looked in the, in the shopping. He's like, man, you should be really proud of what you built here. Like, this is amazing.
00:59:32
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:59:43
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I'm like, yeah, dude, like I, this is my dream. I love this. Like I can wake up, you know, sleep come out with my bathrobe on,
00:59:51
jamie peacock
sleep sleep through a podcast
00:59:53
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I come out of my bathrobe, I hit turn on my phase converter while I'm sipping a coffee in my bathrobe and turn on my machine. Like I don't have anyone telling me what to do breathing down my neck. It's, it's rad.
01:00:06
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And you know, I have to remind myself on the months when it's bad and I can't pay the bills.
01:00:06
jamie peacock
yeah
01:00:07
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:11
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I'm like, dude, people would kill to be in my position. Like I'm very lucky.
01:00:17
jamie peacock
That is, yeah, that is something you don't realize you start taking your setup for granted. And it's like, yeah, I'll just quickly knock this part out.
01:00:23
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
01:00:26
jamie peacock
Meanwhile, there's a whole bunch of equipment that most people will never have access to.
01:00:31
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
01:00:34
jamie peacock
i think all three of us have got some pretty impressive shops for being in the garage. Like most people's cars park in the garage and most people's cars cost less than what's in our garages.
01:00:44
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, we've got literal factories in our garages.
Social Media's Impact on Business Perception?
01:00:47
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like, think about that.
01:00:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:00:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like, industrial-level factories.
01:00:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:00:53
jamie peacock
And I think yeah you you kind of take it for granted when everything's going well. Like, no, no, I'm just going to walk out to the garage and let the robot run and make me a bunch of money.
01:01:01
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Well, also, I think with social media being as prevalent as it is, you're constantly looking at other people's stuff and you're thinking about like how much better everyone else's stuff is than yours. like man, I really want this bandsaw.
01:01:15
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I really want this robot. I still have the same machine from three years ago. You like kind of like take it for granted and you forget where you're at and how far you've come because you're constantly looking forward forward to where you want to go.
01:01:30
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And it's easy to forget how good you have it, at least for me.
01:01:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:34
Jon Dillehay 2SM
100%.
01:01:35
jamie peacock
No, that's the old saying of comparison is the thief of joy.
01:01:36
Curt
Yeah. Well,
01:01:39
jamie peacock
Yeah,
01:01:41
Jon Dillehay 2SM
and hundred percent
01:01:43
jamie peacock
like, the only one you actually need to be measuring up against is yourself, yourself from yesterday. Like, as long as you're better than that, big head, you're fine. Like, And that that's something I ah think social media social media does not help with, with comparing to everyone else.
01:01:53
Curt
and then
01:01:59
jamie peacock
Like, in reality, the only one whose opinion matters is your own.
01:02:03
Curt
Well, and nobody posts on social media when they're like, oh yeah, I had a bad month. So, um, you know, I had to, uh, roll back my budget on things I wanted to buy this month. No one posts that.
01:02:14
Curt
Everyone's like new machine day.
01:02:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:16
Curt
And this is like, you only see the pop.
01:02:17
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, I know.
01:02:18
Curt
You only see the positives in people. Like you never see negatives. So it's just like, it's hard not to realize like everybody has the same struggles and, but you just don't see.
01:02:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:25
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, you have months where you're like, oh man, how am I going to pay your rent?
01:02:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:27
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:28
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And then you're like looking online, new machine day. You're like, dude, what am I doing? It's hard, man.
01:02:35
jamie peacock
So that that's something that like on ma on my Instagram, you'll notice when I'm feeling a bit down, there'll be less posts.
01:02:35
Curt
you
01:02:42
jamie peacock
Like of this week, I've been waiting for for payments and orders and things.
01:02:43
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
01:02:45
jamie peacock
And it's like, okay, I've quoted, let me just be patient. And you'll see I'll stop posting because my headspace is a bit negative. So then I don't post. But when everything's looking up and sunny, then there's posts like 400 posts a freaking day.
01:02:58
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, I think we all kind of do that, you know?
01:02:59
Curt
Yeah.
01:03:01
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:01
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like, yeah.
01:03:02
Curt
A hundred percent.
01:03:04
jamie peacock
I think it's just human nature to only want to share the positive stuff.
01:03:06
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, Jamie knows I struggle. I have my struggles. We all do.
01:03:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, everyone's got their struggles. And everyone's struggled. Like, that's something I heard the worst thing that's ever happened to you may not be the worst thing that's ever happened to me, but it's definitely still the worst thing that's ever happened to you.
01:03:22
jamie peacock
a Context matters. Like when you see a kid who drops the fucking the ice cream and it's like to them, it's the worst thing in the world ever.
01:03:24
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
01:03:25
Curt
Yes.
01:03:30
jamie peacock
Whereas as an adult with some actual context, it's just a fucking ice cream. But to that kid, that's the worst thing that's ever happened in their life.
01:03:34
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah, perspective. Yeah.
01:03:37
Curt
Dude, me and Jen say that all the time.
01:03:38
jamie peacock
No.
01:03:40
Curt
Like with our little ones, when something weird goes wrong, I'm like, you realize that is like top five, one of the worst things that has ever happened to them. Like they fell down and skin their knees. Like that is the worst thing that has happened in their short lifespan thus far.
01:03:52
Curt
So it's like, yeah, of course they're going to freak out like
01:03:53
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:03:55
Curt
it's just Like it's like, oh yeah, you forget about that.
01:03:55
Jon Dillehay 2SM
camera And meanwhile, you're thinking in head, I remember my first beer.
01:03:57
Curt
ah yeah Right.
01:03:57
jamie peacock
But yeah, I think that's something a lot of people...
01:04:03
Curt
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:05
jamie peacock
No, I think that's something a lot of people lose lose touch with this context. Like, not everyone has the same frame of reference as you.
01:04:10
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:12
jamie peacock
And especially modern day and age, it seems to be a bit lost.
01:04:12
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
Recent Interests and Searches
01:04:17
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
01:04:17
Curt
Yeah. yeah
01:04:19
jamie peacock
So, um what is in your guys' Google boxes?
01:04:20
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:27
Curt
Uh, who wants, you want to go first, master John or who's, who wants to lead the,
01:04:29
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Google box. There's a Google box.
01:04:32
jamie peacock
There's a Google box.
01:04:33
Curt
ah just, what, what, what have you been Googling?
01:04:33
jamie peacock
What have you been Googling this week?
01:04:35
Curt
What have you been interested in this week?
01:04:37
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, okay.
01:04:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:04:39
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh yeah. This week. You know what?
01:04:42
jamie peacock
Well, you you're lucky. You've got like 58 episodes. What have you been interested in the last 58 episodes?
01:04:50
jamie peacock
Kurtz and I are the ones that have to worry about the last week.
01:04:50
Curt
Yeah, it doesn't have to be this week.
01:04:53
Curt
could be the last year. what have you been What have you been searching on?
01:04:55
Jon Dillehay 2SM
yeah
01:04:56
Curt
What have you been researching?
01:04:58
Jon Dillehay 2SM
okay I'll go first yeah this summer I oddly got into some super nerd stuff i've been I really got into 18th century British exploring with like Captain Cook, how he like discovered Hawaii.
01:05:13
Curt
Oh, cool.
01:05:15
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Well, he he didn't like discover it, but he like discovered it for the British Empire. listened to his whole audiobook about his like journals and his his like big one of his voyages before he died and how he died.
01:05:20
Curt
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
01:05:30
Jon Dillehay 2SM
and It was like super interesting. I just think that stuff is so cool.
01:05:35
Curt
There is, um when I went to Hawaii, and I might be mixing this up, so someone don't fact check me, but I think it was ah Cook went there and he planted like 100 evergreen trees in this like deciduous forest.
01:05:48
Curt
And then you can go take a tour of it.
01:05:49
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Really?
01:05:50
Curt
And there's like this perfect square of trees that just don't belong there because they're they're not native, but they grow they grow well there.
01:05:53
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
01:05:55
Curt
And so it's like it's like a perfect geometric square on this mountain face. and you're like, why are those there? And they're like, oh, he planted them there for for some reason.
01:06:01
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I love it.
01:06:03
Curt
I forgot it was for ships or for something. um And now it just exists there as this little square of trees.
01:06:05
jamie peacock
Nice. No, most those.
01:06:08
Curt
So yeah, that stuff's cool.
01:06:08
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Hell yeah. Yeah, he's a legend, dude.
01:06:09
Curt
That stuff's so cool.
01:06:10
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I want to get a picture of him on my wall, Captain James Cook. I admire the man. He was a great man.
01:06:18
Curt
Cool. So what else? What else have you been looking at? her Or you don't have to elaborate if you don't want to.
01:06:24
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, I've been, I've been ah looking at anodizing stuff and yeah, I can't think of it off the cuff right now, but um I look at a lot of stuff.
01:06:24
Curt
It's it's a freak free world.
01:06:34
jamie peacock
that's stress
01:06:37
Curt
No stress. How about you, Master Jamie?
01:06:38
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:39
Curt
What's in what's in your Google box?
01:06:41
jamie peacock
The lemon tart from metal 33. The mini monster guy, that little router that's an absolute savage beast machine. He's released a kit for the lemon tart.
01:06:49
Curt
Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. Oh, cool. Okay, I'm going have to look that up. We'll link it in the show notes.
01:06:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, I would recommend you don't.
01:06:58
Curt
Too late. Too late. That's where we're going. Lemon Tart C&C Mini Monster on the podcast. Oh, that is so cute. Oh, that is so cute.
01:07:08
jamie peacock
dude, I want one 30
01:07:09
Jon Dillehay 2SM
There it There it is.
01:07:11
jamie peacock
yeah, $3,500 excluding motors or a controller or a spindle.
01:07:12
Curt
Oh, $3,500. Oh, oh
01:07:18
Curt
I have all of those. Oh, add to cart. Okay, let's go. No. Okay, carry on. um Okay, carry on.
01:07:25
jamie peacock
I kind of want one because I actually have work to put on it.
01:07:25
Curt
Sorry. I have zero need for it, but that is so cool.
01:07:31
jamie peacock
Just think how many anchor points you can put on this.
01:07:34
Curt
I wouldn't because I don't need to, but minimonster.ca. Ooh, Canadian as well.
01:07:39
jamie peacock
Yes, Canadian as well.
01:07:39
Curt
What a gentleman. I might might have to support that guy.
01:07:40
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:07:41
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I asked Jamie, I'm like, dude, why would you need a router? He's like, I don't know. I'll find something.
01:07:46
jamie peacock
I literally have like four or five jobs I could just offload to it.
01:07:46
Curt
That's the ticket.
01:07:49
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
01:07:50
Curt
Oh, that's the ticket.
01:07:51
jamie peacock
And it does 36 meters a minute.
01:07:51
Curt
That's the ticket.
01:07:54
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It's a router, dude.
01:07:54
Curt
That's the ticket.
01:07:55
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Come on. We're going
01:07:56
Curt
Yeah, what do I need that for?
01:07:57
jamie peacock
Yes. For science reasons.
01:08:00
Jon Dillehay 2SM
to make some furniture.
01:08:00
jamie peacock
Yes, that's, that's, I think, it's a small router.
01:08:01
Curt
Okay.
01:08:03
jamie peacock
It's like 13 inches by 11 inches travel.
01:08:08
Curt
Yeah, I have no need for that, but man, is that cool.
01:08:10
jamie peacock
It's very cool.
01:08:11
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Is it just the rap is so cool?
01:08:11
jamie peacock
um
01:08:12
Curt
Anyways, carry on.
Tech Preferences and Gadgets
01:08:15
jamie peacock
The other thing that's in my what's in Amy is looking up titanium to make new racking for my anno setup.
01:08:16
Curt
It's just little. Ooh.
01:08:22
Curt
Ah.
01:08:23
jamie peacock
I've come up with a stupid idea of how to do it. So I'm going to buy some 4.5 millimeter pinning, thread the NM4, maybe make some nuts or just try to buy some nuts, and then laser cut racking, and then just bolt it on.
01:08:36
jamie peacock
Problem solved.
01:08:37
Curt
That's smart. Yeah.
01:08:38
jamie peacock
Uh, should, yeah, because it is kind of cool to be able to have, like, three different racks of little pots cooking, and then just dip them in different colors. because I had to do six mag bases over the weekend, and they needed to be two different colors, so that was kind of convenient.
01:08:51
jamie peacock
So I cut my racking in half to be able to do it like that.
01:08:54
Curt
Nice. nice's Nice.
01:08:55
jamie peacock
But yeah, I'm definitely due for more racking.
01:08:55
Curt
Nice.
01:08:57
jamie peacock
My racking is fucked.
01:09:00
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Really? How do you get your fixtures made?
01:09:01
jamie peacock
Like, very...
01:09:03
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Do you order them from China or do you fabricate your own titanium?
01:09:05
jamie peacock
Nope. Went to my friend's place, guillotined a sheet of titanium into strips, used a pair of tin snips and a TIG welder to weld up custom racking.
01:09:09
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Mm-hmm.
01:09:14
jamie peacock
Now I'm going to send stuff to laser.
01:09:15
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Cool.
01:09:17
jamie peacock
I've got a sheet of titanium, send it to laser cutting. I just need to design the actual racking. Then I can send it to laser cutting, and then I'm just going bolt together or tab together or something.
01:09:26
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Very cool. Yeah, I've seen those titanium racks for anodizing and people get crazy with those.
01:09:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's...
01:09:32
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Like I've seen some beautiful racks.
01:09:32
jamie peacock
Oh, they do. But like in your case, in your case, you could get, you could keep it pretty simple for your bigger parts.
01:09:38
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, I would have to for space sake.
01:09:40
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. You'd have to keep it pretty simple. But yeah, when you get to that point, we will have a chat.
01:09:45
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, for sure.
01:09:47
jamie peacock
I know we're gone.
01:09:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
You're the man.
01:09:49
Curt
okay
01:09:50
Jon Dillehay 2SM
You're my guy.
01:09:51
jamie peacock
What is in your Google box, Kurt?
01:09:52
Curt
Cool. oh Oh, as usual, just an absolute.
01:09:55
jamie peacock
Let me guess. Let me guess. Camera things.
01:09:58
Curt
Oh, what do you, how did you guess that? I'm hyper fixated on that right now. um So yeah, a ton of camera crap.
01:10:02
jamie peacock
They've continued training to exist.
01:10:05
Curt
I'm switching over my cell phone because once again, sick of cell phone providers, like a bunch of those things open. um New cell phones. I'm not going to buy a new one because I'm just not happy with what's out there. So I'm just going to rock my old one for a while.
01:10:17
Curt
Oh, this is kind of cool. So I want to build a NAS um just for photos mainly because I want to kind of, I have too many photos for Google Photos and whatnot. So I came across this software called IMMICH, Image.
01:10:31
Curt
I guess image spelt kind of weird.
01:10:32
jamie peacock
Okay. Okay. Yeah.
01:10:33
Curt
um So it's an open source self-hosted video file manager, but it basically looks exactly like Google photos and you can host it locally. So you can build your own.
01:10:41
jamie peacock
okay
01:10:43
Curt
That way I have just, I want to put it like a server in my basement. So like all my data is like, I'm going and I'll probably like raid. I'll probably like raid to it. So I'll put a bunch of drives in there. So, so they're backwards or so they don't fail. And that way I have all this stuff. So it doesn't just go into the cloud and anyways.
01:11:01
Curt
Messing with that and ah yeah, the rest of it is just nothing of interest, all boring stuff. So yeah, that's what I've been searching not.
01:11:08
jamie peacock
ah Okay.
01:11:10
Jon Dillehay 2SM
It's actually really cool.
01:11:10
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:10
jamie peacock
Nice. Yeah, I need to set up some some storage stuff here at some point.
01:11:12
Curt
Yeah, it should be, don't know, useful.
01:11:16
jamie peacock
But that's a problem for another day. Yeah, I'm actually looking, speaking of cell phones, I'm looking for a cell phone with an eSIM for when we go to the US so that I can get salee and have internet without it being a total utter ball egg like it was last time.
01:11:19
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:26
Curt
Hmm.
01:11:33
Curt
I like, I briefly like, I've been like kind of Android, I run Android phones everywhere. And I was looking at phone.
01:11:38
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:11:39
Curt
I almost want to go iPhone just because they shoot log video and they have like all kinds of cool aspects. Cause I use a phone for a camera. That's literally what I use a phone for.
01:11:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
01:11:49
Curt
um so I was like, maybe, but then I can't bring myself to jump into that ecosystem. I was Apple for a while and then i kind of got out of it and now I just don't really want to go back.
01:11:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:11:56
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I did the same thing where I i had an iPhone for a while until like iPhone 4.
01:11:57
Curt
So.
01:11:58
jamie peacock
La clause.
01:12:02
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And then after iPhone 4, I went all Android for years. I had so Samsung Galaxies.
01:12:07
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:08
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And then ah the last one I think I had was the S9. And then I went back to iPhone, I think 13 Pro. And the cameras are amazing. Like i know...
01:12:20
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:21
Jon Dillehay 2SM
iOS is, Apple's pretty gay, but like for what you get with the camera, it's like totally worth it in my opinion. Even though I did like Android better, but yeah.
01:12:29
Curt
Yeah, they're kind of stomping everybody right now.
01:12:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, I went to the iPhone for iPhone ah and then that died and I went back to Android and have been an Android boy fanboy before and since.
01:12:43
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I can see why.
01:12:43
jamie peacock
um But yeah yeah, I don't know. The offerings are bit lackluster, so might just go the iPhone route. i don't know.
01:12:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
You like Kurt said, the iPhone is good for the camera. like That's really all.
01:12:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:12:55
Jon Dillehay 2SM
the only reason I have it.
01:12:55
jamie peacock
I mean, my phone gets used for YouTube, Instagram, and phone calls and WhatsApp.
01:13:00
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Yeah.
01:13:00
jamie peacock
That's it. Like, it's nice to be in the Google ecosystem because all my Google Docs and shit on my phone, but that works on our phone too, so I'm not too worried about that.
01:13:02
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:13
jamie peacock
It's not like it's a...
01:13:13
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:14
Curt
So.
01:13:14
jamie peacock
What did I get? I got a fucking Hawaii. After this Hawaii that I use for filming, it got slightly damaged.
01:13:22
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Oh, wow.
01:13:23
Curt
Ooh.
01:13:23
jamie peacock
just Just slightly. Um... I got a I got another one and Google was no longer supported. So I had to like try side load Google sheets and things. I'm just like, No, I'm done with this.
01:13:35
jamie peacock
So I got another phone. And then yeah since then I've been on oppos, and they've been there. Okay, it's just this one's a bit of a potato.
01:13:44
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
01:13:44
jamie peacock
Like a lot of a potato.
01:13:45
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:46
jamie peacock
But yeah, phones are phones are phones.
Where to Find Us Online
01:13:48
jamie peacock
So john, where can people find you and your things?
01:13:49
Curt
Totally.
01:13:51
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Me and my things, you can go to 2SMPerformance.com. That is the number 2SM. And then you can also go to EnginTricks.com.
01:14:03
Jon Dillehay 2SM
tricks spelled with an X T R I X. Those are the go pet parts. And then also on Instagram, you can find me at two SM performance, all one word.
01:14:14
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And then also my personal page is two underscore stroke underscore mafia. And that's where you see a lot of like the background stuff. And I post there a lot more where you can see like me machining and my background processes and the stuff that I do and like the goofy stuff that I share And then like when I come out with new products, you'll see on the official 2SM Performance page, you'll see that stuff released with links to the website.
01:14:40
Jon Dillehay 2SM
And we do have a YouTube channel as well, 2SM Performance.
01:14:41
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:14:45
Jon Dillehay 2SM
So I have some videos up there. i need to post another one soon, but that's where you can find me.
01:14:52
Curt
Nice.
01:14:52
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:14:54
jamie peacock
And Kurt, where can people find you and your things?
01:14:55
Curt
Cool, cool.
01:14:58
Curt
KinFoundedMachine.com points to everything, and it even points to our merch store where you can buy shirts and whatnot if you want to support the podcast that way.
01:15:05
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:15:07
Curt
How about you, Master Jamie?
01:15:07
jamie peacock
Very fancy.
01:15:08
Curt
Master
01:15:10
jamie peacock
let me take a deep breath because there's a lot this week so um you can find me at jspec underscore engineering on instagram to follow the day-to-day shenanigans of the shop uh jspec eng.com if you're looking for an anchor point or some keel clamps which are now available on the store more coming shortly uh also interesting news about tariffs um i'll post update
01:15:13
Curt
but yeah
01:15:35
jamie peacock
yesterday when this comes out because the new tariffs are coming into place and looks like that's going to reduce the tariffs to the US significantly so there'll be updated pricing on the website yeah I know no I got an update I got an email from my shipping agent today like from 30% to 15% so hey I'm going to take advantage but yeah you can find the anchor point you can find the kill clamps you can find the flak and you can find the merch store all at josepeckeng.com yes
01:15:43
Curt
Allegedly.
01:15:48
Curt
Okay, we'll see how long this lasts. Yeah, sure. Nice.
01:15:59
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Side note on that, Jamie, I ordered some clamps on your website last night.
01:15:59
jamie peacock
a
01:16:00
Curt
Nice.
01:16:01
jamie peacock
yes
01:16:04
Jon Dillehay 2SM
i have some serious advice to give
01:16:04
jamie peacock
Yes, I know.
Production Plans and Workflow Challenges
01:16:06
Jon Dillehay 2SM
you on your website.
01:16:06
Jon Dillehay 2SM
We'll talk about that later.
01:16:07
jamie peacock
Okay, we will chat about that later.
01:16:08
Jon Dillehay 2SM
You need to make some changes.
01:16:10
jamie peacock
um Yes, you woke me up at 2am when you placed your order.
01:16:11
Curt
One
01:16:14
jamie peacock
Here's my phone ring.
01:16:15
jamie peacock
Ka-dunk, ka-dunk, ka-dunk, ka-dunk, with all the notifications. And I thought, ah, shit, here it goes. It's the neighborhood group. Someone's being burgled. But no, it was just an order.
01:16:15
Curt
bad thing.
01:16:26
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I like to wake up to money.
01:16:26
jamie peacock
um Yes, it is.
01:16:28
Curt
has
01:16:29
jamie peacock
So a what are you up to today, John?
01:16:33
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Today, got to get some parts out to anodize run by UPS, and then I got some more parts to machine. So, yeah, got a CR500 ignition cover, which is a new product of mine that's about to drop on the website.
01:16:42
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:16:48
Jon Dillehay 2SM
I'm going to machine out on the the new Sharp, make some more decks on the old Sharp, and just keep it rolling, man.
01:16:56
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:16:56
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Making chips.
01:16:58
Curt
Sick.
01:16:58
jamie peacock
And you Kurt, what are you up to today?
01:17:01
Curt
I'm going to load a crap ton of parts into the style and let it do all its fourth axis work. So that's going to take like literal days. So I'm going to prep that. And then I'm probably going to piss around with cameras because obviously that's what I'm, my brain is on right now. So while the machine is doing something that makes me money, I'm going to play. Yeah.
01:17:18
jamie peacock
nice um yeah gonna go snooze and then uh tomorrow i'm trying to think what i have oh yes tomorrow i've got to go deliver parts i've got to press a bunch of parts yeah it's gonna be a busy day tomorrow um
01:17:19
Curt
How about you? How about you, Jamie? are you up to?
01:17:33
jamie peacock
yeah, i don't know if I'm coming or fucking going at the moment with, uh, all the stuff that's up in there.
01:17:36
Curt
Nice.
01:17:37
jamie peacock
So it's going to be a busy one, all sorts of fun things, but I'll probably be posting on Instagram about it. So, well, I would have been posting already because this comes out in two days time. Um, the whole two days time thing really is screwing with my brain at the moment, but yeah, the future.
01:17:52
Curt
The future, the future.
01:17:54
jamie peacock
Anyway, thank you, John, for joining us on the podcast. It was lovely catching up and, uh,
01:17:58
Jon Dillehay 2SM
was pleasure, man. Thank you for having me.
01:18:00
jamie peacock
Not a problem. And then thank you to all of our listeners, including our Patreons, who make the wheels on the train go round and round and get access to the After Show, which we're going to shoot in the next few minutes.
01:18:10
jamie peacock
But yeah, thank you everybody for listening. If you were watching on YouTube and enjoyed it, please consider subscribing and liking and all those things. If you were listening on Spotify, I know we've been a bit slack on the video on Spotify, but that's because no one watches the video on Spotify.
01:18:23
jamie peacock
And AJ, thank you for watching on Zencaster. Cheers all.
01:18:29
Curt
Thanks, John.
01:18:30
Jon Dillehay 2SM
There's AJ.
01:18:30
Curt
Take care, all.
01:18:32
Jon Dillehay 2SM
Taps and paces.