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Ep. 66: Fusion Executes Order 66
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This week, everything works… except the things we actually need.
We start off optimistically with solar power plans and dreams of energy independence, before immediately spiraling into real-world problems like rising fuel costs, questionable ROI, and whether running a machine shop on sunshine is genius or just expensive optimism.
Then Fusion 360 decides to absolutely ruin Jamie’s week, turning simple edits into 10-minute emotional journeys and making basic machining tasks feel like punishment. If you’ve ever shouted at your CAD software like it personally betrayed you, this one’s for you.
Meanwhile, Curt casually builds “internet in a box” like a doomsday prepper with a Wi-Fi signal, downloads all of Wikipedia, and somehow makes it sound completely reasonable.
We also cover:
- Why copy-pasting G-code is a dangerous game
- The exact moment a missing line ruins your day
- Buying a new 3D printer for “totally valid reasons.”
- Designing print-in-place tools that might actually save your machine
- And why backups (and backup plans) are no longer optional
It’s part machining, part tech rant, part “how did we get here?”
Subscribe if you enjoy:
Questionable engineering decisions
Software-induced suffering
And slowly preparing for the apocalypse… but with good documentation
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- Noughtical Work Holding: https://www.noughticalwh.com/
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- Patreon: https://patreon.com/TheLoneMachinists
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Loan Machines Podcast. It's just you, the work and the machines. What have you got going on today,
00:00:07
Curt
This week, I'm going to talk about Project Nomad, machining with the power from the sun, and my camera lens gamble, how that has fared.
00:00:18
Curt
How about you? What are you going to about?
00:00:18
jamie peacock
okay. um I need to make a correction for something I said about vacuum work holding last week. We're going to discuss how I considered moving away from fusion this week. um And there's a new product I'm working on that is currently in the alpha phase.
00:00:34
jamie peacock
So we'll dive into that.
00:00:36
Curt
Ooh.
00:00:37
jamie peacock
Yes, I've worked on it on Friday night and can order some material tomorrow for it.
00:00:42
Curt
I'm gonna have to start calling you AJ for ah products instead of businesses.
00:00:42
jamie peacock
How are you?
00:00:45
jamie peacock
Well, no, this falls in line with the rest of my product line.
00:00:49
Curt
Okay, okay.
00:00:50
jamie peacock
Not a new business. How are you
Personal Updates and New Ventures
00:00:52
jamie peacock
this morning? Oh, this evening, Kurt. It's now the opposite way around.
00:00:54
Curt
I'm doing really good. Yeah, now we're flip flop. Now's nighttime for me and morning time for you, but ah no, i'm I'm doing fantastic.
00:00:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:01:01
Curt
I don't know, nothing.
00:01:01
jamie peacock
Oh, that's good. Yeah, as as we go, it's going to get lighter behind me.
00:01:05
Curt
Ooh, exciting.
00:01:05
jamie peacock
Oh, I just realized that I have my full light on because I unplugged it. Production quality.
00:01:10
Curt
for the two and a half people that actually watch her face.
00:01:11
jamie peacock
tea
00:01:14
jamie peacock
Yes, it's all about quality for them and them only.
00:01:16
Curt
Yeah. hu
00:01:19
Curt
Yeah. Ooh, I'm pretty
00:01:20
jamie peacock
No, better lit. Yes. Yeah. Speaking of podcast things, my wife is starting a podcast with her.
00:01:24
Curt
sick.
00:01:27
Curt
Ooh.
00:01:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, with, well, it's starting with her and her brother, the first couple episodes. um Her brother wanted to write memoirs and hasn't got around to it. So she's like, fuck it, we'll just do a podcast where you can tell stories and things. and And then when you eventually decide to croak, at least there's something, some recording of you talking for your boys, like...
00:01:46
Curt
Yeah, that's a good idea.
00:01:47
jamie peacock
because he's got two young young sons. So then she started them and then get other other guests on to talk about life stories and shit like that.
00:01:55
Curt
That's kind of cool. That's cool.
00:01:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, so in that room over there is going to become the recording room for her. It's our spare bedroom.
00:02:00
Curt
Ooh.
00:02:01
jamie peacock
So we're fucking around microphones yesterday because obviously we need 92 microphones and my camera gets stolen from here. My laptop gets stolen. It becomes a whole thing.
00:02:10
Curt
Right. Right, yeah.
00:02:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's that's our old bedroom when we first moved in here. And it's yeah it's just a spare room. so we're just going to throw the bed against the wall and then put two chairs. I'm going to put a shelf on the wall with the microphones attached to the shelf so you can sit and then just pull the boom mark around.
00:02:27
Curt
Nice. Yeah, that'd be nice.
00:02:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, so yeah, nice and easy to set up. If we get guests, we just carry the two chairs out, put the bed back down and done.
00:02:36
Curt
Oh, that's cool. Yeah, that'll work perfectly.
00:02:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, so yeah, that's going to be exciting and fun. I'll go be a guest on there and promote the loan machinists.
00:02:44
Curt
yeah They'll get...
00:02:45
jamie peacock
That is my plan for the 13th as well on Taps and Patients.
00:02:48
Curt
Oh, yeah? Oh, are you goingnna are you going to guest host?
00:02:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, reached out to Jacob. Yeah. Well, yeah, i read I reached out to Jacob.
00:02:53
Curt
Sick.
00:02:54
jamie peacock
That isn't confirmed, but let's put pressure. Jacob, we've now announced it. You have to have me on.
00:03:00
Curt
but
00:03:01
jamie peacock
No pressure.
00:03:01
Curt
does he run the levers and Does he run the levers and cranks on that show now?
00:03:04
jamie peacock
Well, I reached out to me. doesn't normally reach out to me because it's time zone stuff. I'm like, no worries. Like I'll make a plan to wake up at two in the morning and record with him.
00:03:11
Curt
okay
00:03:14
Curt
Nice. That'd be fun.
00:03:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:03:15
Curt
I'll listen that one.
00:03:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:03:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm sure it'll be.
00:03:16
Curt
I mean, I'll listen to all them.
00:03:17
Curt
I don't know why I said that one, but anyways.
00:03:18
jamie peacock
Well, I'm sure it'll be a fun one catching up with AJ because I don't really chat like voice chat with AJ regularly, but we hung out a lot at IMTS.
00:03:29
Curt
That's awesome. Yeah.
00:03:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, so it should be fun.
Exploring Solar Power and Energy Efficiency
00:03:31
jamie peacock
But yeah, so what is, well, I'm going to jump the shark and go straight to your solar system.
00:03:32
Curt
Cool.
00:03:36
jamie peacock
i have questions.
00:03:38
Curt
Yes. ah So...
00:03:39
jamie peacock
What?
00:03:42
Curt
Do you want the backstory or do you want a question first?
00:03:43
jamie peacock
I'll Well, want to know what you plan on running on a seven kilowatt system.
00:03:48
Curt
So some ah rando, I have a special name for him, but I don't think it's politically correct. So I'll just say a solar person came to my door and knocked on my door. And I don't do door door salespeople because my opinion is if you're selling door to door, your product sucks um or you're a pyramid scheme of sorts.
00:04:02
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:06
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:04:06
Curt
um Anyways, I gave him a time of the day. He was a super nice dude, so I just chatted with him. and ah Anyways, ah with the way that power works here, we can you can sell it's called micro generation.
00:04:17
Curt
You can sell it back to the the grid, and it's one-to-one.
00:04:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. At pennies on the dollar. Oh, is it one-to-one where you are?
00:04:22
Curt
Yeah, it's one-to-one. Yeah, so you get it.
00:04:24
jamie peacock
Oh, okay, that, yeah.
00:04:26
jamie peacock
Okay, that makes sense.
00:04:26
Curt
And it's actually in the in the summer, it goes, depending on things, it can go up to three to one.
00:04:31
Curt
So if you're generating solar, you get, yeah, so like you generate all summer and then you get free power all winter.
00:04:32
jamie peacock
Jeez. Yeah.
00:04:37
Curt
um So the payout is crazy fast, but then they have a limit to like each neighborhood because they can only feed the grid so hard you can't have.
00:04:41
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:04:43
Curt
Anyways, I did a bunch of research on it. i was like, okay, let's go. Let's let's ballpark these systems out. um So I have a few more quotes coming out. um But they usually they pay out in about 10 years. So for me, it's kind of it's kind of worth it.
00:04:55
Curt
um
00:04:55
jamie peacock
yeah you also i would assume you're a bit of a higher uh than than the average household
00:04:56
Curt
And yeah, so I just was
00:05:06
Curt
Yeah, and the way it works here is they can only put the panels, you can only push into the grid basically what you've historically been taking out of the grid.
00:05:16
jamie peacock
okay yeah yeah yes
00:05:16
Curt
So I can't put like a 10 megawatt system and then sell it into the grid. I can, but I get different rates. Um, but if they go off my historical data, I use a decent amount of power so I can actually push a de decent amount back into the grid.
00:05:30
Curt
Um, I think my limit is, is around 10 kilowatts.
00:05:30
jamie peacock
yeah adds up yeah
00:05:32
Curt
i mean it's not a ton, but I mean, 10 kilowatts all the time is a lot of fricking power. Um, So anyways, yeah, I'll probably end going with, i I wrote seven kilowatts on the system, but I think it's going to be closer to 10 because we just figured out ways we can stack more panels on, on the roof to get, to get more light.
00:05:47
jamie peacock
nice so you get sun for like three days a year
00:05:48
Curt
And oddly enough, ah the place where I live, Alberta is like the third, third sunniest place in like North America or something crazy like that. Like we have for the Mount of, sorry, what?
00:06:01
jamie peacock
You get sun for like three days a year.
00:06:03
Curt
That's the thing. It'll be minus 50 here and blazing sun.
00:06:05
jamie peacock
But sunny.
00:06:06
Curt
Like we have crazy amounts of sunlight.
00:06:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:08
Curt
um So it it it's decent.
00:06:09
jamie peacock
OK.
00:06:10
Curt
It's still not enough in the winter to offset anything, but the summer does.
00:06:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:13
Curt
Anyways, um yeah, I'm exploring that and see if that works out. I think we're going to end up going ahead with it, but yeah, should be fun.
00:06:16
jamie peacock
OK.
00:06:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, I was chatting to to one of my customers yesterday. came past and was saying, yeah, you went because now the the fuel price is going through the roof here. um Literally 50% increase on diesel.
00:06:31
jamie peacock
I'm having 750 liters of diesel delivered on Monday or Tuesday before the price goes up.
00:06:31
Curt
Yikes.
00:06:35
Curt
That's a good idea. Yeah.
00:06:36
jamie peacock
I've got a 700 liter tank, so why not?
00:06:37
Curt
Yep.
00:06:39
jamie peacock
um He was saying one of the guys that he he met up with has got an electric vehicle. He's like fuck, how much did this thing cost? Yeah, it costs about a a million rand. Normal EV price.
00:06:50
jamie peacock
And he's like, what's the fuel consumption? he's like, I think I filled up in October. <unk> It's a plug-in hybrid. he's here It doesn't do more than 160 kilometers in one go.
00:06:56
Curt
Right.
00:06:59
jamie peacock
Then it's fine. So yeah it was something Danica and I discussed, if she's going to be working continuously in Midrand, is to buy an EV and put panels on my roof.
00:07:01
Curt
Sure, yeah.
00:07:09
jamie peacock
So we charge up batteries during the day.
00:07:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:07:10
jamie peacock
She comes home, plugs in, charges off the batteries, and she needs 100 kilometer range each day.
00:07:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:07:17
jamie peacock
So get something with like 160 range, and you've got a ah very big buffer. And worst case, the clouds were out and the power's off.
00:07:22
Curt
Yeah, and that's
00:07:26
jamie peacock
I turned on the 20kVA Jenny and charged the car up. Like, it's not the end of the world.
00:07:29
Curt
totally.
00:07:30
jamie peacock
Like, so yeah, it was a discussion we had, but the price literally doubles when you want to get an EV compared to a little gas car.
00:07:38
Curt
Yeah, fair. Gases.
00:07:39
jamie peacock
So, but yeah.
00:07:39
Curt
I mean, yeah.
00:07:40
jamie peacock
So you're not planning on running your machines to, on your solar system.
00:07:45
Curt
No, no, I'm not even planning on putting a storage system in because I'm just going to direct cell to the grid.
00:07:46
jamie peacock
You could...
00:07:50
jamie peacock
just gonna okay you're just gonna use it as a as a sell back to the grid because you could probably run everything at once except the cell on your on a seven kilowatt system
00:07:50
Curt
So yeah.
00:07:54
Curt
Totally. Yeah. Yeah. And then once
00:08:02
Curt
uh yeah yeah very it only pulls uh i think oh it's still yeah 20 i guess 20 amps of what is that like 15 kva or something like no not not that high 10 10 kva yeah so i run the math backwards but
00:08:11
jamie peacock
oh yeah your cells are 10 kva yeah trust me i know i've been looking at all the kvas on machines
00:08:17
Curt
ah yeah you probably couldn't quite do it um but it definitely it's a huge chunk of of my uh electricity so that's nice well
00:08:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:08:25
jamie peacock
Yes. Yeah, no, that's freaking sweet. Like, at least it's it's worthwhile for you. Because people are like, oh, put solar, put solar, run and solar. I'm like, fuck off and die. The or ROI is never for the machine shop.
00:08:34
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:37
jamie peacock
Like, the amount of battery I would need to put in to be able to run through the night or into the night is just not feasible.
00:08:46
Curt
Yeah, well, and that's like that's the thing.
00:08:46
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:08:47
Curt
is if if the ah like when i looked I looked into this about maybe 15 years ago, and the ah ROI was like over 30 years.
00:08:52
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah, no.
00:08:54
Curt
And now, um even if my power rate and distribution and all that stuff stays exactly as it is, which probably not going to considering the world, um the payoff is still 10 years.
00:08:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:03
Curt
so And the panel life is probably about 30.
00:09:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:06
Curt
So yeah, that's reasonable.
00:09:08
jamie peacock
So currently here, since 2009, electricity has gone up. It's 900%. Yeah. it's nine hundred percent
00:09:15
Curt
Yeah, yeah, I i bet, yeah.
00:09:17
jamie peacock
It's yeah it's fucking insane.
00:09:17
Curt
Yep.
00:09:19
jamie peacock
um But that's also just mismanagement and thievery. So get what you pay for. um But yeah, like I electricity is still not expensive. I think my electricity bill if I spend $400 a month on electricity, it's a lot $400.
00:09:35
Curt
or 400 US dollars?
00:09:36
jamie peacock
four hundred dollars
00:09:38
Curt
That was a shitload, in my world anyways.
00:09:39
jamie peacock
on consider well considering what uh some of my my customers pay for the electricity they're paying that as a connection fee yeah and then their power's off regularly like they've all got big generators so that they can carry on running when the power is out because reason like that's in industrial areas they'll have no power for a week at a time yeah it's like how the fuck you meant to run a business
00:09:49
Curt
oh oh
00:10:00
Curt
Yeah, That would suck.
00:10:10
jamie peacock
yeah I was there they were servicing so their building has a transformer it they were servicing the transformer and then the generator didn't want to run because they had actually had power for like two months so the generator hadn't been running and then that was leaking diesel and a bunch of other crap yeah know Africa's not for the faint of heart yeah oh a
00:10:10
Curt
That would suck.
00:10:24
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Dude, no doubt. That sounds so rough. Yeah. We're so lucky. You're like, I, if, if I have a brownout or a blackout once a year for more than like an hour, that's a huge rarity.
00:10:37
Curt
Like we have stable power.
00:10:37
jamie peacock
yeah, ah my power is probably going to go off today because it's a Sunday and reasons.
00:10:39
Curt
Oh,
00:10:43
jamie peacock
Like, every time I try to work on a Sunday, the power goes off for like two or three hours because I think they do maintenance on a Sunday so they can charge overtime and fuck around fuck around the people who live in their houses.
00:10:57
jamie peacock
Like, it's, yeah, it's really tedious.
00:10:57
Curt
Like you said, not for the faint of heart.
00:11:00
jamie peacock
Yeah. But yeah, anyway, that's ah okay, cool.
00:11:04
jamie peacock
Interesting. Like at least you can sell back at one to one because i know a lot of places you sell back at like 10 to one.
00:11:04
Curt
Let's...
00:11:09
Curt
Yeah, well, not that's I assumed it was nothing, and they're like no, it's full credit.
00:11:09
jamie peacock
So like, yeah.
00:11:12
Curt
I was like, I guess you're pushing the same power back into the grid. Like, why why wouldn't they in alleviating strain?
00:11:15
jamie peacock
Yeah. know in Germany, you're limited to 20 or 30 kilowatts per house that you can generate. Like the government will not let you generate more than that on your roof.
00:11:25
Curt
Right.
00:11:28
jamie peacock
doesn't matter if you can fit a million kilowatts worth power, you are limited to only 20 kilowatts.
00:11:28
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:11:32
jamie peacock
And they check because it's Germany.
00:11:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:35
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, ours is a, oh, I don't
00:11:36
jamie peacock
But then the guys get, because there their sellback is also like 10%. of the rates.
00:11:41
Curt
know. Ooh.
00:11:42
jamie peacock
So what they do is they charge up their batteries and then have smart appliances. So load the dishwasher, load the washing machine, have them run middle of the day while you're at work, charge your EV during the day if you can, like there's a whole bunch of tricks they pull there to basically never buy anything from the from the grid.
00:11:49
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:00
Curt
Yeah, well, that was that's why I wanted... Like, if we had arbitrage, like, if we had hourly rates, like, sometimes at night, power is cheaper, and but we don't do that here.
00:12:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:06
Curt
It's just flat. So, arbitrage, like, arbitrage of power doesn't really make sense.
00:12:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:10
Curt
um So, that's why I'm going the way I'm going, but yeah, we'll see.
00:12:10
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, with ah as far as I know, we're the same flat rate.
00:12:16
Curt
Yeah, we just... I mean, I live in oil land, so it's power is cheap for us.
00:12:18
jamie peacock
Makes it easier. Yeah. Yeah, no, your guys power is silly cheap. So which one would you like to jump into there?
00:12:24
Curt
Yeah. ah I said to look through your list of ah just because I know you're so you're so hot about it. Your fusion fuckery. Tell me about rant, Jamie.
Technical Challenges and Project Nomad
00:12:35
Curt
Rant away.
00:12:36
Curt
It's only you that is apparently having this problem, too. So.
00:12:39
jamie peacock
I know I've had a few people reach out.
00:12:39
Curt
yeah
00:12:40
jamie peacock
It's been so my mate Dave is considering moving from Fusion because it's so fucking glacial. um Like opening models, is just ah it's unreasonably slow for him.
00:12:46
Curt
OK.
00:12:49
jamie peacock
Mark from Mark's Engineering was saying he was having some issues. Uninstalled Fusion yesterday and reinstalled Fusion and did a Windows update. And now it seems to be usable on that computer.
00:13:01
Curt
Okay, okay.
00:13:02
jamie peacock
So it's been fine on this computer upstairs, but this computer upstairs is not close to my machine.
00:13:03
Curt
Right.
00:13:07
jamie peacock
It didn't have my tool libraries. It now does. um So I've been spending, last week, I spent a couple days upstairs here doing CAD work because I couldn't do it in the in the workshop. Like my machine ran for a couple hours this this entire week because I couldn't run it.
00:13:23
jamie peacock
I was machining a ah harmonica harmonica read modification jig. I needed to tweak the offsets on the threading pass on the thread milling pass that normally is like a 20 second operation walk up open the toolpath edited hit post walk back to the machine.
00:13:42
jamie peacock
It took me 10 minutes to edit that.
00:13:45
jamie peacock
Fusion will just lock on and you clicking trump minima click again you' dlingling and Yeah, till it would minimize pop up then you do that again pops up again and then you can edit things. it is like the It's like the app or like Windows was putting you're pulling something else to the front that wasn't there. So you couldn't click on anything in Fusion.
00:14:05
Curt
And you're like, you're running like Windows 11, like all the things it wants.
00:14:08
jamie peacock
Windows 11, decent spec PC.
00:14:09
Curt
Hmm.
00:14:12
jamie peacock
fuck It just, yeah, corthetism.
00:14:15
Curt
Weird.
00:14:15
jamie peacock
And yeah, very, very, very frustrating.
00:14:16
Curt
Weird.
00:14:18
jamie peacock
um And then, yeah, i got it I got it working yesterday. So I'm going to go do some machining today.
00:14:23
Curt
Oh, good.
00:14:25
jamie peacock
and see if it's actually fucking working reliably. I need to go make some mag wells and some mag bases and things, so I'll go fondle that, and hopefully hopefully it'll be working. But yeah, like to the point that I considered leaving Fusion this week.
00:14:40
Curt
i I heard it in your voice. i was like, oh, that sucks. I'm like, i I wish I had something I could help you with. like I was like, i playing nice on my end.
00:14:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's like, yeah.
00:14:48
Curt
but
00:14:48
jamie peacock
And the annoying thing is my Windows 10 PC that's fucking old as balls up here ran fine. but it's not set up to post it doesn't in my posts. It can't talk to my NAS because it's on a separate network.
00:14:57
Curt
Right.
00:14:59
jamie peacock
So it's like I can't like I could go poor people flash drive method, but I don't want to like I want that PC to just do what it's fucking supposed to do.
00:15:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:08
jamie peacock
Because yeah that's what I paid for. But yeah, I was very, very fucked off with fusion to the point that the story I posted on Friday actually mentioned Autodesk Fusion, the actual Instagram account.
00:15:08
Curt
Yeah, no fair.
00:15:22
jamie peacock
I like you
00:15:23
Curt
Oh yeah.
00:15:24
jamie peacock
of why am i when i uninstalled that why are you uninstalling because that's fucked was my feedback like what do you want me to say it's fucked i can't use it it literally unusable for a week since the last update that they pushed a week ago it's been unusable to the to the point that yesterday i couldn't even get it to open
00:15:32
Curt
Oh, that'll be helpful. Yeah. ah
00:15:39
Curt
Yeah. Hmm.
00:15:45
Curt
Weird.
00:15:50
jamie peacock
It would open and it wouldn't, like, leave all the menus and shit empty. um I killed it in Taskbar or in Task Manager. I tried to uninstall. No, there's Instance running. i'm like, no, there fucking isn't. Reboot the PC, uninstall it, and reinstall it.
00:15:50
Curt
Weird.
00:16:05
jamie peacock
No, just fucking cursed. But yeah, that's what you get with Software as a Service. It's fucking great.
00:16:11
Curt
Well, I do know that they like the RAM usage jumped. I'm assuming that's because of little AI engine that's running in it now. like I noticed a little bit of more.
00:16:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:16:18
Curt
like it I just have a visualizer that shows how much RAM it eats. And i was like, oh, it it jumped up a gig or two, but nothing egregious. Weird.
00:16:25
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, like I was checking my task manager. It's not like it's pinning my CPU or using all the RAM or anything. So like it wasn't that the PC was, like I even checked that my PC wasn't overheating.
00:16:30
Curt
weird
00:16:34
jamie peacock
Like I checked the temperatures to make sure that it's not cooking the CPU because the thermal paste has gone hard or something. And no, everything's fine.
00:16:40
Curt
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:41
jamie peacock
Like PC's happy.
00:16:43
Curt
Huh.
00:16:43
jamie peacock
Fusion's just, yeah, being a train enthusiast.
00:16:48
Curt
Hmm.
00:16:48
jamie peacock
No, it was very, very frustrating. Like, uh, Even machining the riser that I machined, it took me forever to post those tool parts. You want to go tweak something, 10 minutes to make a 20-second tweak.
00:17:02
Curt
Oh, yeah, that's tedious.
00:17:02
jamie peacock
So yeah, it was horrible. I'm very curious as to what Project Nomad is.
00:17:09
Curt
Okay, so like a few weeks ago, i chatted about ah me wanting to clone the internet and ah have it in like an offline bot. What the hell do you have in your hands, Jamie?
00:17:19
jamie peacock
I broke my shoe.
00:17:21
Curt
Oh, I don't know your foot is that high, but I guess you can see it on.
00:17:25
jamie peacock
I took the shoe off.
00:17:27
Curt
Okay. Is that on your OnlyFans?
00:17:28
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:17:30
Curt
Your flexibility?
00:17:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's for the OnlyFans.
00:17:31
Curt
Jamie's Yoga Channel? Yeah. Anyway, sorry. Project Nomad. um So I wanted to have essentially internet in a box. Oddly enough, that's actually thing.
00:17:37
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:17:38
Curt
Internet in a box. You can Google it. But Project Nomad is super cool. Go check it out. If you're listening to this podcast, you're probably into it. It is essentially an open source project where...
00:17:48
Curt
a guy developed something that you can run on linux i'm actually running it on docker on my system here so like on the linux subsystem um or technically i install it with through the subsystem but i'm using it on through docker
00:17:55
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:18:00
Curt
And it ah hosts a webpage, like a local webpage, and it lets you do all kinds of shit. Like I downloaded all of Wikipedia, like the complete Wikipedia offline.
00:18:11
Curt
And I downloaded every single wiki med document, survival guides, maps. It's just basically like anything you would use the internet for, you can download.
00:18:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:18:20
Curt
So like you can download two, three, four, 500 gigs worth of just stuff.
00:18:25
jamie peacock
Oh, jeez.
00:18:25
jamie peacock
Okay. Yeah.
00:18:26
Curt
good to know 100 or Wikipedia in its full with everything is only 110 gigs um which is crazy to think about it so anyways I have like just a crap ton of data just locally now which is kind of wild like I can look up any drug that exists on earth and it tells me like the whole breakdown of it what it's used for I can look up like medical procedures like just kind of end of the world kind of shit and I just I thought it was really interesting and like it
00:18:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.
00:18:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:18:50
jamie peacock
Yeah. Kurt becomes a prepper.
00:18:53
Curt
Oh, that's what my wife's like. She's like, I like that you like prepper stuff, but you're not like buying missile silos. i'm like, well, they're there isn't any around us, but if there was, but like, it just, oh, dude, I'm so into mines.
00:19:00
jamie peacock
Yet.
00:19:04
jamie peacock
Go buy an old man, Kurt.
00:19:08
Curt
Don't even get me down that. That's a deep love of mine.
00:19:11
jamie peacock
Mons have trains as well.
00:19:14
Curt
and know man We go on vacations and I literally go mind hunting because I die digress.
00:19:19
jamie peacock
Nosti.
00:19:20
Curt
I digress. um Yeah. Super cool. Project Nomad. Go check it out. It's open source. It's free. ah All you need is a Linux box to run it on.
00:19:25
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:19:28
Curt
And it's not it.
00:19:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:29
Curt
Yeah, it's not super heavy. um It just the downloads are aggressive. So just be prepared for hundreds of gigs of downloads if you start loading it up.
00:19:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, do them at night. It's fine. Yeah, i my plan my plant is oh nice with all their teardowns.
00:19:38
Curt
But yeah, like I downloaded the complete iFixit. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Everything, yeah.
00:19:44
jamie peacock
Fucking wicked.
00:19:45
Curt
so I have it all.
00:19:45
jamie peacock
Yeah. So my plan is, because you keep telling me how much better having a fast computer is, ah to musical PCs.
00:19:52
Curt
Totally.
00:19:53
jamie peacock
And then this PC, I think I'm actually just going to put two like eight or 16 terabyte drives into it, set them up in a RAID array and put it down there and let it just be our permanent on-site backup that we can dump all the all the critical stuff to.
00:19:59
Curt
Yep.
00:20:04
Curt
That's good idea.
00:20:06
jamie peacock
It's got a RAID array. If something goes wrong, we know about it. I think it can take four SATA drives. so I'll just shove four drives in it and set up an array that it's a little redundant.
00:20:17
jamie peacock
Because right now our backups are on Google, which I have trust issues since they changed there um their motto from don't be evil.
00:20:17
Curt
Yeah, that's good idea.
00:20:27
Curt
yeah i yeah that's good Yeah, that's what's kind of pushed me down this thing of just like, I don't like when I just like, yeah.
00:20:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:20:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:20:35
Curt
There's some data I want to always have access to.
00:20:35
jamie peacock
I think I'm going
00:20:37
Curt
so
00:20:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, 100 percent. like I ball like that plan. I've got 100, 100 and something gigabyte NAS that I use like four megabytes of. for my programs, for the all the CNC programs, go via that NAS.
00:20:48
Curt
Perfect.
00:20:52
jamie peacock
I think it's yeah it's a 256 gig um NAS. like It's got given to me because you can't change the hard drive. It's firmware locked to 256 gig. It's it's a
00:21:04
Curt
Ah, okay.
00:21:06
jamie peacock
uh western digital um my center or something it's old ass one but it works and if i can i push code to it and i pull code from it and works flawlessly so i have got some some network attached storage that i could steal uh interesting yeah what would you like to cover on my many many things i think some of these are going to overlap again
00:21:14
Curt
Hmm.
00:21:20
Curt
Sick. All right. Let's see. in I am.
00:21:28
Curt
ah Tell me about i need a new
Machining Innovations and Challenges
00:21:32
Curt
printer.
00:21:32
jamie peacock
yes i need a new printer end of conversation
00:21:35
Curt
Oh,
00:21:35
jamie peacock
I was printing some stuff on the beefcake. And yeah, it's configured to print big things quickly with thick layers. So tolerance is not really thing.
00:21:48
jamie peacock
So I was making covers. i don't actually have any of them yet. I made a magnetic cover for the anchor points. But this printer, the firmware doesn't let me pause because I didn't configure that properly.
00:21:58
Curt
Oh,
00:21:59
jamie peacock
So I want to be able to pause, drop magnets and print over them. And it doesn't doesn't do that. So I'm using that as an excuse to buy a new printer. Also have a print job that I'm waiting for a PO on that will pay for said printer.
00:22:12
Curt
ah sick.
00:22:12
jamie peacock
No one's 100 enclosures.
00:22:13
Curt
Okay. well
00:22:13
jamie peacock
So we're going to print them in PETG on ah a one mini and just let it run.
00:22:18
jamie peacock
It's going to take 10 days of 22 hours per day printing.
00:22:18
Curt
Perfect.
00:22:22
Curt
Perfect. Perfect use. Yeah.
00:22:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I want to actually get the bed ejector system for it. So I'll get it, I'll start printing, then I want to buy the bed ejector that I can just run four trays of a time.
00:22:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:34
jamie peacock
And that four trays puts me on nearly two days of print time.
00:22:38
Curt
That's awesome. That's so cool.
00:22:39
jamie peacock
Yeah. And then I've got a bunch of products I want to print on it for the for the anchor point, the covers, the gauge pin holders, because a bunch of crap that will go on there. I'll keep this thing for printing tool tags and big things that I want relatively quickly and don't really give a shit about the ah dimensions like I know how to I know how to print on this to get the dimensions I want.
00:23:01
jamie peacock
It's just I want a tool, not a hobby. I'll be able to send it to the printer and just have a print.
00:23:04
Curt
Nice.
00:23:06
jamie peacock
So yeah, looking at a one mini found I can get them even cheaper here. And we look at getting them from the UK actually because they even cheaper from the UK. um My mate Dave's boss can get them for like 150 pounds. So it's like 3000 Rand. And then he sends stuff here regularly sends him as broken broken things for repair.
00:23:25
jamie peacock
So we don't pay import duties on them. And then yeah, we get printer. So we'll see. I'll i'll chat today this week about it. Otherwise, I'll just buy one locally and then buy the ejector kit from China.
00:23:37
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, because I like printing things.
00:23:39
Curt
Oh, cool. That's cool.
00:23:40
jamie peacock
But yeah, designed I designed a print in place model on Thursday, Friday, the day of the week, I went to a customer to go pick up cash and finish wiring a press.
00:23:53
jamie peacock
And he had bought a three d printer. He's like, no, he needs to make this thing. It's going to be quicker if for I just draw it from Like, no problem. It's a pair of pliers for putting a part in the press made out of PLA. So if the press comes down, it smashes the pliers. It doesn't damage the tool.
00:24:06
jamie peacock
So I designed it as a print in place with, I parametized the clearances.
00:24:07
Curt
Cool. Yeah.
00:24:13
Curt
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:13
jamie peacock
So you like I got right on the first guy.
00:24:14
Curt
yeah
00:24:15
jamie peacock
I gave him a 0.25 clearance and it came off the printer and just worked.
00:24:20
Curt
Cool.
00:24:20
jamie peacock
Prints in place models are fucking cool. that keyboard It's his first printer, so he's printing fucking sharks and dinosaurs and like all the little prints in place models. like All just stupid crap.
00:24:28
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:29
jamie peacock
and in ah yeah was like, no, no, come. Let's print something properly now. So he printed a set of grippers.
00:24:37
Curt
That's cool.
00:24:37
jamie peacock
It was kind of
00:24:37
Curt
That's a good use. That's that's good use for like that technology.
00:24:38
jamie peacock
Yeah. No. Exactly. If the press comes down, you're not going to break your tool because it's just a piece of plastic. It will explode.
00:24:46
Curt
Totally.
00:24:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:24:48
jamie peacock
So it's quite quite cool.
00:24:48
Curt
That's awesome.
00:24:49
jamie peacock
I've never I don't think i've actually designed a Prince of Place model until that point.
00:24:54
Curt
Yeah, I haven't. So that's that's cool that it worked out first row first roll though
00:24:56
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, I kind of know what I'm doing some days. Not all days, just some days. But yeah, it's not not particularly complicated. Like I designed one side the pair of pliers, mirrored it, or sorry, not mirrored, copied the body, created a component, jointed it, subtracted the component from the original one to get all clearances that I needed, and then duplicated the thing again, made another component with now the updated version, and then ah did the little two-pyramid join-y thing.
00:25:29
Curt
right yeah yeah cool nice yeah yeah that's cool yeah all right
00:25:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, and made it all like 60 degrees, so it was going to have no issues printing. Yeah, it's cool. It's really cool. um I'm kind of curious ah as to what you did with ah your G-code, that you now know all G-code lines are important.
00:25:47
Curt
oh dude so fuck i was like It's getting a little fast and loose. This last week has kind of been, I've just been lot of shit. Just all things kind of compiled at once.
00:25:58
Curt
And I have a million things to do, which is lovely. It's a great problem to have, but I sometimes have to like force my brain to slow down.
00:26:02
jamie peacock
yes
00:26:05
Curt
um So I was doing some engraving on, I have one, actually this kind of ties into two topics, but besides the point, um I have one corporate client that I do work for.
00:26:12
jamie peacock
yes
00:26:13
Curt
And it's the only one to do work for because I hate corporate clients. But these guys, they're awesome. I like them. And they're the only ones I'll work with. um because they gave me a lot of work when I needed a lot of work before I was... Oh, no, I was still are decently popular, but I digress once again. um they They have engravings on a pen that they they get from me, and...
00:26:34
Curt
I kept tweaking the engraving because I moved it to the style now. I just, I haven't done their work in like a year, so I've never done it um on the style. So I'm like, oh, I'll plop it on the machine. i was like, I want that engraving a little deeper. And I'm like, I want that engraving a little deeper.
00:26:46
Curt
i want And I just kind of kept tweaking it down. And ah and ah just the way I had, I was copying and pasting the code into already known good production code because I didn't want to risk like posting all the production code out.
00:26:58
jamie peacock
and Yeah. Okay, yeah.
00:27:01
Curt
So I'm like, I know this section is the only section that needs to be copy pasted.
00:27:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:04
Curt
So i was I was being very careful. i was being a good boy. i was like, I know right after this, this, the tool change all the way to the program and copy paste, replace. And like, I did that and then I missed one little line that was a positional move on the fourth axis where it just rotated to the correct place.
00:27:22
Curt
um So the tool went down to the engraving depth, which i was like, that's not supposed to happen yet. And then I just see the fourth axis moving. I was like, and it wasn't bad because it was only at engraving depth. So it's not hurting anything, but I'm like,
00:27:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:33
Curt
You're just, it it just completely. And this was after I ran all the test parts. So i'm like, oh, it's good now. So I put in good parts and it just like ga immediately ruined the the pen body.
00:27:44
Curt
And I mean it's not a huge deal, but I'm just like, ah, idiot.
00:27:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, but it's annoying.
00:27:48
Curt
And I'm like, why did that happen? i'm like, oh, I forgot one little line of code. I mean, I'm happy didn't hurt anything, but still it's just like copy and pasting is dangerous.
00:27:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:57
Curt
And I do it all the time and it's a dangerous game to play.
00:28:00
jamie peacock
It's a very dangerous game to play. I actively try not to do it. um Even doing replacers can get a little bit sketchy. Because in Fusion, what do I I cut it by accident. So for my indexing some of other stuff, I pass through a comment. Then I go and uncomment the comment.
00:28:20
jamie peacock
So i'll selected the text, hit control control X instead of control C, and then pasted it into the replace box, and then pasted it again and take out the the comments fingers.
00:28:22
Curt
Yep.
00:28:32
jamie peacock
And I'd cut it out of the code.
00:28:33
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:28:34
jamie peacock
So now instead of nine rotations, I've only got eight. It took the first one out.
00:28:39
Curt
Yes.
00:28:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, very annoying.
00:28:41
Curt
Yes.
00:28:41
jamie peacock
Also, I have an issue with VS Code. in ah it vs code it sometimes like i if i've edited code and i just close vs code it will when i post again it'll open the the version i edited i'm like i just reposted this fucking thing yeah so then you've got to close the file then close vs code very frustrating
00:28:57
Curt
Yes. yes yes he
00:29:07
Curt
I hate that and I don't know why it does that. I get bit all the time.
00:29:09
jamie peacock
yeah
00:29:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's fucking infuriating. But that's why I added date and time stamps to my code. So i can when I load it on the machine, I can make sure it's the latest version. Because usually there's a few minutes between posts.
00:29:21
Curt
That's smart. Yeah. Totally. Yeah.
00:29:25
jamie peacock
At least a few minutes. so I can at least validate. And I've got it on all my code now. So even the um the code that's going to the Linux machines has that now. Although it's formatted really stupid on the Linux machines.
00:29:39
jamie peacock
Like it literally just got to be like 064023. ah six four o twenty three You know, what the fuck's that number? Oh, wait, it's the time.
00:29:46
Curt
Yeah, right.
00:29:46
jamie peacock
It doesn't format it properly like it does on the Siemens post.
00:29:47
Curt
Yeah, yeah
00:29:51
jamie peacock
Siemens post has.
00:29:52
Curt
yeah.
00:29:54
jamie peacock
are those things The two dotty things between the between the numbers.
00:29:58
Curt
You have one and I have one. Colons.
00:30:01
jamie peacock
That one. Yes.
00:30:03
Curt
ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.
00:30:03
jamie peacock
I can shit canal. um
00:30:05
Curt
Ha ha ha.
00:30:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, the it doesn't do that in the Linux one, but whatever is what it is.
00:30:11
Curt
At least you get, at least you get to see the last digits and be like, yeah, oh, it's more.
00:30:13
jamie peacock
Something. Yes. Yeah.
00:30:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:30:16
jamie peacock
It's this day. Yeah. You know, you roughly know when it was done.
00:30:20
Curt
Totally.
00:30:21
jamie peacock
Because fucking and running the wrong code is never fun.
00:30:26
Curt
So do you want to call it our Patreons and then talk about ah your correction to the vacuum stuff or vice versa?
00:30:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, let's... No, let's... No, not Vice, Vacuum Chuck. Let's shout out all the Patreons first. So yeah, the Patreons make the wheels on the train go round and round.
00:30:44
jamie peacock
They all got access to the after show for Project Hail Mary, which we're probably going to have an addendum to today. um
00:30:51
Curt
Yes.
00:30:52
jamie peacock
That's available on Patreon right now to all the Patreons. At any tier, well, any of the paid tiers, you get access to that. um It is going to go up on YouTube. So if anyone is patient, it'll be up on YouTube the day this podcast comes out because why not?
00:31:07
jamie peacock
um They get early access on that one. The top tier Patreons all get a shout out for being on the top tier. And those Patreons include Jake from Benchmark20, Luke from Fabtastic, AJ from Subtract Manufacturing and 37 other companies, Jason S., EJ from Nocturnal Welding, aussie The Aussie Machinist, Christian Olson, Charles White, Kyle from Cursed Machine, Matt from Off-Oiled Gear, Alex B., John from Tourism Performance and Engine Tricks, and we have a new Patreons this week, Joa from Harrison Brothers, Narvs.
00:31:35
jamie peacock
Thank you all. You make the wheels on the train go round and round and make it so we can go to IMTS and look at cool machines. i don't even know what I'm going to IMTS to look at this year. Cool things mostly.
00:31:46
jamie peacock
a
00:31:47
Curt
ah
00:31:48
jamie peacock
Just want to go see what's new and cool and be a social butterfly. ah And wear a part chart shirt for Justin. It's
00:31:57
Curt
Yes, well, thank you all.
00:31:57
jamie peacock
going to be great.
00:31:59
Curt
Very kind, very much.
00:31:59
jamie peacock
Yes, thank you all.
00:32:00
Curt
i it's It's super, and super appreciated.
00:32:00
jamie peacock
And yeah.
00:32:03
jamie peacock
There will be more Project Hail Mary things in the after show this week.
00:32:07
Curt
Yeah, very likely because we're both nerds and can't get off that topic.
00:32:09
jamie peacock
ah Proper.
00:32:09
Curt
and Yeah.
00:32:09
jamie peacock
Like, Instagram is just Project Hail Mary things now.
00:32:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:14
jamie peacock
I have fixed it. aar Cool.
00:32:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:17
jamie peacock
So, last week I mentioned vacuum work holding stuff.
00:32:21
Curt
Jays.
00:32:21
jamie peacock
I referenced the wrong podcast.
00:32:22
Curt
Jays.
00:32:23
jamie peacock
It was not parts department. It was the map. um And yeah, they were... The dude from Develop was saying... Guys, we'll go with the Venturi, not realizing that the ROI on an actual vacuum pump is quite literally a couple months, just in power consumption and air consumption, because air is not free.
00:32:45
jamie peacock
The nice thing with Venturi is when it when it sucks, coolant center just spits it out, whereas coolant pump stone oh not cool pumps vacuum pumps don't really like running with coolant as lube.
00:32:45
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:56
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:57
jamie peacock
Ask me, I know.
00:32:59
Curt
yeah hey
00:33:00
jamie peacock
Mine is still working somehow. Not entirely sure. I ran out of vacuum oil, so I put in S10 pneumatic oil the other day because I needed it to carry on running, and then it aspirated all the oil into my workshop.
00:33:02
Curt
Yeah. Good enough.
00:33:11
Curt
we
00:33:12
jamie peacock
So it was like being in Kurt's workshop.
00:33:15
Curt
yeah It can get a little misty. yeah
00:33:18
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, the mist is not great for you. um
00:33:21
Curt
No.
00:33:23
jamie peacock
I'm now kind of...
00:33:24
Curt
so Let's close that one, actually.
00:33:24
jamie peacock
a ah covered that.
00:33:25
Curt
All
00:33:26
jamie peacock
Yeah. yeah, let's talk camera lens.
00:33:29
Curt
right.
00:33:30
jamie peacock
I'm very curious.
00:33:32
Curt
Okay, so I bought...
00:33:33
jamie peacock
I'm gonna leave my shoe off now because it keeps breaking.
00:33:36
Curt
Ooh, exciting. um i did i buy that I bought that lens. The ripped cable, ordered cable from AliExpress came in, um started putting it together,
00:33:41
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:33:47
Curt
Everything is good. It is sitting on my bench right now. After we're done this podcast, even though it's gonna be late for me, I am going to finish plugging it in. I was almost done, but like the last few stages are like these very, very tiny ribbon cables that go into these very tiny connectors. So everything's done with tweezers.
00:34:03
Curt
And if I rush it and I...
00:34:04
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:05
Curt
break anything it's hooped like i can't fix it at that point because like the only cable i can replace is the one i bought um all the other ones i i can't find sources for them uh so i can't mess it up so i need to be nice and calm and just go through slowly um but the freaking pain in the ass i was i was so tedious i was so careful and i was bonding in this cable like this cable is not just like a like a little cable it's got like It's a big snaky looking thing.
00:34:29
Curt
And it it looks like it's made out of like aluminum foil or like mylar or not mylar, uh, capton with like micro wires in it.
00:34:35
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah.
00:34:36
Curt
And it's got connectors on it. It's got components on it. It's got coils in it. Like it's a complicated little creature and it has to be bonded in place. So I was bonding everything, but like the clearances are nothing. So like I'm using toothpicks to put like contact cement in certain areas to keep things.
00:34:50
jamie peacock
Oh, fuck.
00:34:51
Curt
Anyways, I'm squishing the down and I'm using some, uh, like cyanocrylate on certain spots cause it just has to bond quickly. And I just got a graze of cyanoracrylate on my finger. And when I was squishing it down, I moved my finger over the one of the lens elements and smeared just the littlest bit of cyanoracrylate on the lens.
00:35:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:10
Curt
So i was like, I looked at him like, I don't know if that's just finger oil or if that's glue. So I was like, I'm not going to it. I'm not touching it until it dries. And then I'll just, I'll deal with the consequences. So anyways, I let it dry. Then I hit it with just alcohol because that's not to hurt anything.
00:35:24
Curt
And yeah, it's cyanoracrylate. So like, Okay, I'm like, i there's two things I can do. I can either just leave it and hope that once all assembled, that it's actually not going to impair the image and I won't even notice it. and in that case, I don't care.
00:35:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:36
Curt
Or try to hit it with acetone on a Q-tip.
00:35:39
Curt
Because that will take it off. But I'm like, that might also...
00:35:41
jamie peacock
It'll take it off, but take off the coating.
00:35:43
Curt
Yeah. I'm like, it'll peel the coating off the camera lens.
00:35:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:46
Curt
I'm assuming. Like, it's probably metal deposition on the lens, but acetone will probably still take it off.
00:35:51
jamie peacock
d Yeah.
00:35:53
Curt
So was like, i just, I went with the option of just like, clean everything, put it together. Let's leave the acetone for the end. um If I notice it, then I'll have to go back and play or like maybe try to scratch it off with like a wooden something.
00:36:04
Curt
I don't know.
00:36:05
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:05
Curt
Anyways, i I was kind of pissed, but I was like, even if I was going working slower, I still would have done it. So I was like, It is so minute. It's like, it's like literally the tip of a pin amount, um but it's a lens.
00:36:16
jamie peacock
Is it near the edge of the lens?
00:36:16
Curt
It's not like, it's off, it's off of the center and this is on the, it's on the optical stabilizing lens.
00:36:24
Curt
So I'm wondering if I miss, like if, if it's converging and it's not going to actually be using that area of the lens, I might get around it.
00:36:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, I think you're on.
00:36:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:32
Curt
So we'll see.
00:36:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:33
Curt
We'll see.
00:36:33
jamie peacock
Let's see, before you go and acetone the thing and ruin it.
00:36:36
Curt
that also I'm like, if I ass-toned it and it starts to strip the coding, I'm like, well, I've destroyed it.
00:36:37
jamie peacock
Right, yeah.
00:36:41
Curt
So I'm like, I'll just leave it and we'll play this game.
00:36:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:44
Curt
So anyways, you'll know next week if I made it through or not.
00:36:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's that's the most frustrating thing. You work so carefully and then some dumb shit happens while you're assembling. And I've been there and done that many, many times.
00:36:54
Curt
Yeah, and that was... and i I wasn't even all that mad at myself because i was like, no matter what I was doing, this was just... like It was bound to happen because like I was going slow.
00:37:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:37:02
Curt
I wasn't rushed. I knew it was... i was like, it is what it is.
00:37:05
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:37:05
Curt
So anyway...
00:37:06
jamie peacock
That's okay. So you're still gambling?
00:37:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:08
jamie peacock
i Speaking of gambling, I must go take my lotto tickets to the lotto machine and see if I won.
00:37:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:13
Curt
Ooh. Yeah, we could just totally stop doing this thing and and live off your winnings.
00:37:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, i was at the... I stopped at the shop and was like, yeah, fuck it. I never buy a physical lotto ticket. I'm like, fuck, give me give me a lotto ticket for each lotto. Like, why not?
00:37:24
Curt
Ooh.
00:37:25
jamie peacock
Let's see.
00:37:26
jamie peacock
So I need to go past... ah Fuck, em a lot of money. A stupid amount of money.
00:37:26
Curt
What's prize?
00:37:32
jamie peacock
Like a couple, like I think 20 or 30 million rand. That's a lot.
00:37:32
Curt
Nice.
00:37:36
Curt
Oh, cool. Nice. Nice.
00:37:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, so we'll see. Back in. don't know, I bought two 50 Rand tickets. So it's like, what's 50 Rand? mom periodla aru today I in today. They're like $3 tickets. So i bought two $3 tickets and see.
00:37:51
jamie peacock
It's more than I normally, like I normally buy on my phone on the banking app. um But i was like, nah, I'm in the shop. I'm at the counter buying a phone for Samo the Mamo. Let me just fucking buy a lot of tickets while I'm here.
00:38:03
jamie peacock
Maybe it'll work because I bought a physical ticket.
00:38:03
Curt
I have my fingers and toes crossed. I think it will. I think that's how it works.
00:38:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, I think so.
00:38:07
Curt
Yeah. ah
00:38:09
jamie peacock
They're magneted to my fridge. So I'll probably just Google the numbers and just go check for one instead of going to the shop. But yeah, because you go to the shop they put the ticket in the machine.
00:38:16
Curt
Yeah, that seems like less fun.
00:38:19
jamie peacock
It goes, bru you won or you didn't win. know
00:38:23
Curt
Yeah, I always wonder if it goes like, you won, and they just like they're like, nope, you lost, and just put it in their pocket.
00:38:28
jamie peacock
um know it shows on a screen facing the customer and it prints a receipt and prints no prize on the ticket and they give you your ticket back.
00:38:31
Curt
ah Okay.
00:38:35
Curt
ah Okay, okay.
00:38:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, we live in Africa.
00:38:37
Curt
but
00:38:38
jamie peacock
It's got to be scam proof.
00:38:39
Curt
Yeah, you thought of this. Yeah.
00:38:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, now they they definitely thought of that.
00:38:41
Curt
ah tell me a
00:38:44
jamie peacock
So which one do you want to which one's onnna cover?
00:38:45
Curt
Tell me, or yeah, I say, I want to hear about your new alpha product.
00:38:50
jamie peacock
Ah, yes, okay. So um I sent you that model of your table where your tool setter was between the anchor points, which is a little dangerous sometimes.
00:38:59
Curt
Yes.
00:39:04
Curt
Fair. Yes.
00:39:05
jamie peacock
So I'm busy with a quick change. It's not a quick change, but yeah, basically a mounting for your tool setter that you push button, take off, and put it somewhere else.
00:39:17
jamie peacock
So you can move it out of your envelope when you don't need it. We've discussed these in the past, but everyone uses magnets, and magnets are stupid.
00:39:20
Curt
Right.
00:39:25
Curt
um Yeah, I'll agree. Megas are amazing, just not in a machine. Yeah, yeah.
00:39:28
jamie peacock
not in that environment. So I have got a mechanical version that I'm busy with the nice big button that you press and it comes out.
00:39:34
Curt
Nice.
00:39:37
jamie peacock
And then you put the cover you put a cover in so it doesn't get full of fucking shavings. um But yeah, busy. I'm waiting. I'll get material sometime this week. I'm going order on Monday to make a couple prototypes and then see if it all works using a kinematic coupling with uh with ball bearings kind of like this one that only goes in in one orientation and then it's going to have just an integrated pull stud it's going to be machined out of 70 75 well the first one's going to be 60 82 because it's easy to get around um
00:39:53
Curt
yeah, yeah. Ooh. a wo
00:40:07
jamie peacock
It's just got a basically integrated pull stud that I'm going machine in. And then it's got two locking elements that you push the button in, it unlocks, you take it out, drop it in, it's tapered.
00:40:12
Curt
Right.
00:40:17
jamie peacock
So it should hold with a fair amount of force um and repeats. It repeats from the balls, not from the pull stud. And the pull stud is just for attention. And if it wears over time,
00:40:29
jamie peacock
There's enough play that or enough um adjustment in the system that'll keep holding. It's not going to just fail. And then if it becomes a problem, we can always make that piece out of steel.
00:40:41
jamie peacock
But I don't think it's necessary.
00:40:44
Curt
No, I don't think so either.
00:40:44
jamie peacock
No, like it' you're not going to take it in and out 100 times a day.
00:40:45
Curt
i think it's a good idea, though. I think.
00:40:49
Curt
ah Ideally not. Yeah, yeah.
00:40:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, ideally not. Like, ah du I want one for my machine for when I have to take my tool setter off, then I can just take it on and off, and it should repeat pretty freaking well. And also no magnets. No magnets is important.
00:41:00
Curt
Yeah, totally. Yeah.
00:41:01
jamie peacock
So yeah, this works on the design on Friday nights. Pretty much have it to a point where I can make all the parts and then just see see how it works.
00:41:12
Curt
Nice.
00:41:12
jamie peacock
So that is this week's, one of this week's endeavors.
00:41:12
Curt
Yeah, I think it's.
00:41:16
Curt
That's a good idea, but I'm also coming from the land of tiny machine tables, so anything that gets me more, yeah.
00:41:17
jamie peacock
Yeah. So that's the thing. Small machine tables, it's a yeah it's a thing because was chatting to Dylan from Got Chips and he's got a 14-inch travel on his robo-draw and it's like <unk> a problem. He's also got to have his um tool setter on a riser to be able to touch it with the shortest tool.
00:41:36
jamie peacock
So it becomes an issue of if Fusion does a stupid linking move, it's going to wipe out his tool setter.
00:41:37
Curt
Right.
00:41:42
Curt
Yeah, totally, yeah.
00:41:42
jamie peacock
So yeah, we're going to see, we'll make one and then even if you buy two base receivers and put them one out of your travel on the table that you know your tool your machine can't ever hit it.
00:41:54
jamie peacock
So you can literally unclick it here, click it there and you know it's out of the travel and you don't have to worry about the wires and shit.
00:41:58
Curt
Well, even in my instance, just like moving it over like six inches because I have tons of table.
00:42:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:42:05
Curt
I just can't access it. And it's like if I moved it six inches away, it's just not getting like Bukkake blasted so hard.
00:42:09
jamie peacock
Yeah. 100%.
00:42:12
Curt
Like it's just it could be in its own little like shelter to the place and the chips aren't flying into it's just like safer over there. Yeah.
00:42:19
jamie peacock
No, exactly. So that that is the plan. I'm thinking of doing the same on my machine, just moving. Well, I don't have any more table left because I've got a fourth in the way now.
00:42:26
Curt
but
00:42:27
jamie peacock
But yeah, I need to actually pull my toolsetter apart.
00:42:27
Curt
You got
00:42:30
jamie peacock
It's ah erroneously triggering now, so it needs a service. But I am looking at just buying a China special one for like, how much were they? 4,000,000. No, they've come down in price now.
00:42:41
jamie peacock
My plan is to wait until they're basically free. It's like $180 for toolsetter.
00:42:47
Curt
That's cheap, yeah.
00:42:47
jamie peacock
um
00:42:48
Curt
That's cheap.
00:42:48
jamie peacock
it's it's marketed in the documentation as a replacement for a TS-27A.
00:42:54
Curt
Oh, wow. Wow.
00:42:55
jamie peacock
And for that price, like, they're worth a try.
00:42:58
Curt
It's, yeah, it's, yeah.
00:42:58
jamie peacock
We'll see if it's sticky. It shouldn't be sticky. um I mean, the calibration is easy enough on the on the Siemens controller, slap it in there, load your calibration tools, a touch it goes boop boop boop and it's done.
00:43:09
jamie peacock
It's super quick.
00:43:10
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:10
jamie peacock
So yeah, I think i'll I'll pick one of those up and play with it. And then take my TS 27R out and put something that isn't stupid. it Although the TS 27R has been rock solid since I last serviced it.
00:43:23
Curt
Oh, good.
00:43:24
jamie peacock
Like it hasn't given a day's shit until this week. And I'm not sure if it's because i rare I've been running the machine a bit less or because I had it spraying coolant in that direction quite violently.
00:43:29
Curt
Oh, that's good.
00:43:38
jamie peacock
Because I put another anchor point on my table.
00:43:41
Curt
i I saw that.
00:43:42
jamie peacock
Because more more is always better. Machining that stupid fucking riser. um Yeah. So I machined the riser in a vase and then I marked it. like, fuck, it's not square. It's out of square by like a thousand and a half.
00:43:56
jamie peacock
I want it to be parallel. So I put it double alters to the table. I'm like, cool. I think my six millimeter cut is long enough. It is not. It was short by like an inch and a half. So i was like, OK, put my.
00:44:11
jamie peacock
My long 12 millimeter. No, it doesn't reach my 45 length of cuts in its hydraulic holder. OK, the hydraulic holder with a sleeve because it's a bit longer.
00:44:23
jamie peacock
with ah one of my older long 12mm cutters sticking out stupid fart, and then I managed to machine the surface, and also managed to machine the riser that's next to it.
00:44:33
Curt
Oh, no.
00:44:33
jamie peacock
So it's now got some gouges in it. Yeah, the what it is.
00:44:36
Curt
Oh, no. okay
00:44:37
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's now machined. I've got a mechanical anchor point under my fourth axis, and a mechanical on my fourth axis. So when I need extra rigidity, I've got that. And when I put in the um the pneumatic vise, it'll go into the me mechanical anchor point.
00:44:53
Curt
Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:54
jamie peacock
So then it can drop in and out super quickly.
00:44:54
Curt
Okay.
00:44:55
jamie peacock
And I can use the pneumatic anchor points as the trays so that I can make a tray that drops on there for holding pots for loading. And all the z hearts will be close enough that I don't have to really worry about crashes.
00:45:03
Curt
Clever, yeah.
00:45:08
Curt
Yeah, that's that that makes sense.
00:45:08
jamie peacock
Because the yeah, the mechanical anchor point is low enough that it doesn't interfere with any of my larger pallets on the harbor.
00:45:09
Curt
so
00:45:17
jamie peacock
So the pins sit just below the the plane, so I can drop bigger pallets on and not have it be influenced.
00:45:17
Curt
Perfect.
00:45:25
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:45:25
jamie peacock
so living living my best life with uh six anchor points in my machine now the more the merrier yeah more is always better who just ordered things damn it
00:45:30
Curt
That's a lot. That's a lot.
00:45:36
Curt
At least you know the guy making them, so.
00:45:39
jamie peacock
yeah well yeah get i get good price from him yeah yeah i need to run anno need to anno some of the mechanicals um
00:45:42
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
00:45:48
jamie peacock
more mechanicals, just for shits and giggles. But yeah, I need to my anno setup is currently like all my wash tanks are drained, because otherwise they get full of moths. So I just drained them last time. And then when I need to run anno, I top everything off, check all the concentrations and then run anno.
00:46:04
jamie peacock
I don't think i've run anno in like a month and a half.
00:46:09
Curt
They fill up with moths. This is for some reason hilarious to me.
00:46:10
jamie peacock
Yes. The moths fucking flying because there's a lot there. So the moths fucking cruising. Oh, look, water. Yeah, and fucking drown.
00:46:17
Curt
Okay. ah Okay.
00:46:18
jamie peacock
um yeah it's really really fucking wrong you go there and the fucking whole tank is full of moths so now I just leave them empty Jamie the moth murderer yeah never a dull moment so you've been using AR to read documents by the looks of it
00:46:28
Curt
No doubt. Yeah, no doubt. Okay.
00:46:37
Curt
Yes, so this is my slight rant of like all these first-worldy countries, mine America, they all want... They all want everybody to bring back manufacturing, manufacturing.
00:46:48
Curt
know how fucking hard it is to get insurance that'll play nice with people that want to sell product to the world? Because it's impossible. And I had my old insurance that I used for my my like ah liability insurance.
00:46:57
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:47:00
Curt
It was okay. But it was like I had basically, like, they had me by the balls because like I had nowhere else to go. they were the only underwriter that would write for me for worldwide coverage. I'm like, I sell pens guys. I'm not selling guns. Like why is this such a big deal? But they don't want it. Anyways, lots of issues. Underwriters are sketchy little scaredy people. anyways Um, so I, I, I, I purchased it. Um, and it covered me for the main scary things that I wanted to be covered for. And, uh, anyways, I just, the company that i was dealing with, I hated them. Um, I want to go with this other company that I really like. They do all my other insurance. I'm like, Hey, will you guys do my business and or like my liability? And they're like, Oh yeah, that won't be an issue at all. I was like, sweet.
00:47:42
Curt
I'm going switch to you guys. They're like no issue. So then I, I've been going through the process with them and it was It was an issue. and They said it wouldn't be an issue. it was an issue. They're like, oh, our underwriters don't want to cover you for worldwide. I'm like, I know. I get it. like Let me know what I can do. So anyways, they came through.
00:47:55
Curt
They actually gave me a way better package. I now have like cyber insurance, um which I didn't have in the past, for like liability online, for all kinds of...
00:48:00
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:04
Curt
dumb things that people will try to sue you for. So it's it's actually nice. I have a package now that protects me a lot better. I don't ever want to use it, but I know it's there now. um But the legalese they send me, I'm like, I can understand some of this, but some of this I don't get.
00:48:17
Curt
I'm like, I have an idea. So I just... cut and pasted basically the important parts into Claude. And i was like, can you just explain it? Like I'm five, like, tell me what everything is here. And if I'm getting hosed and it went through every single thing was like, Oh, this means this and that value beside it means, you know, this is the deductible and this is blah, blah, blah.
00:48:35
Curt
And this is what it covers you for. And like, this isn't actually pertinent to your industry, but it's probably just bulked in because of things. And it's like, this is your cyber package is this.
00:48:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:43
Curt
You should ask for this, this, and this, you don't have this, you have this. And it was like, like, this is so useful. So then when I contacted them and I could like write back to them, they're like, oh yeah, that makes sense. And like, i was like, hey, I feel like I'm intelligent. and I don't know I think this is a really good use for AI where just like, I don't know what this legalese is.
00:48:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:59
Curt
And it just made it so much easier to read.
00:49:00
jamie peacock
Well, I found out the other day that generally in South Africa, your life insurance covers has a hole in one clause. that if you go play a game of Murrensuk and you hit a hole in one, generally you've got to buy everyone on the course around at the bar.
00:49:09
Curt
What's that? Okay.
00:49:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:18
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:49:19
jamie peacock
So there's literally clause in your life insurance that will pay out if you hit a hole in one to cover that bill.
00:49:19
Curt
Okay.
00:49:26
Curt
Really?
00:49:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:49:27
Curt
I guess. Why not? Why not? Yeah.
00:49:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, why not?
00:49:28
Curt
The odds are so low.
00:49:29
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, exactly.
00:49:30
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:31
jamie peacock
Exactly.
00:49:34
Curt
Oh, that's kind of, that's kind of cool. That's kind of cool.
00:49:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's really, ah yeah, it's a really cool, ah yeah, it's something you you would never know until you get a hole in one and the the bill is like a stupid amount of money. Because that bill can be like $6,000, depending on how many people are on the on the golf course.
00:49:49
Curt
Sure, right.
00:49:51
jamie peacock
Not that I play golf, but I know this. I was told this the other day by someone who does play golf. And I was like, oh, interesting. that that's ah there's There's another one as well. There's two clauses that are in there. I think there's one for bowls as well.
00:50:04
jamie peacock
Like just games that are commonly played here that there's clauses in the insurance for in the event that you have to buy the whole place a drink.
00:50:04
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:50:13
jamie peacock
No. Yeah, that's kind of interesting.
00:50:13
Curt
cool.
00:50:13
Curt
Yeah. ah
00:50:14
jamie peacock
like and like um So I looked at getting insurance for my workshop just for contents.
00:50:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:20
jamie peacock
And I read through the document.
00:50:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:21
jamie peacock
I'm like, no, no, you're not going to cover anything in any event ever because that gas bottles must be in a cage.
00:50:26
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:28
jamie peacock
I'm like, it needs to be gas bottles need to be in a cage and X amount from sources of ignition. Like, it's for my fucking welder. It is an inert gas.
00:50:38
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:50:39
jamie peacock
Like, what the fuck?
00:50:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:40
jamie peacock
And I'm like, no, because then if there's an incident, no, there was a gas bottle. on you know We're not going pay. like And I read through all the shit.
00:50:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:46
jamie peacock
I'm just like, no, just just fucking no. So yeah, we just, we live by the seat of our pants here.
00:50:49
Curt
yeah
00:50:51
jamie peacock
um And I just hope nothing bad happens.
00:50:55
Curt
I mean, i mean a lot of a ton of people do because like, and it's like it's not cheap.
00:50:58
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
00:51:00
Curt
so
00:51:01
jamie peacock
So like for for instance, our vehicles, those insured, comprehensive, that if you ram some cunt, you're covered, they're covered, not, in my opinion, not actually optional to not have insurance on your vehicle.
00:51:12
jamie peacock
Because if you go right off your vehicle, you can't afford to replace it.
00:51:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:16
Curt
Yeah, totally.
00:51:16
jamie peacock
Like, so you have to, like, there you have to have insurance. I've got lots of fucking life policies and shit. Like, i lose a finger, I get paid. If I lose two fingers, I get paid. If I lose an arm, if I lose an arm, if lose an ear.
00:51:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:26
jamie peacock
Like, I've got quite comprehensive life insurance and covers in place because I work for myself and was the sole incomer. um And I've had those in place for many years, even where I used to work.
00:51:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:38
jamie peacock
I was paying for them there because, well, you never know what happens. But yeah, you never you never want to use those things.
00:51:42
Curt
Totally. Totally.
00:51:45
jamie peacock
But yeah, unfortunately, they're there for when you need them.
00:51:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:49
jamie peacock
Like know my mom had a policy, a cancer policy, and then had found a fucking lump on her tit and went, got paid out. She's just pretending it doesn't exist.
00:52:01
jamie peacock
But she got her payout. She got a diagnosis, got her payout. I'm like, fucking hey, got her money's money's worth for paying it for 30 40 years.
00:52:09
Curt
Sure. Yeah, no, exactly.
00:52:10
jamie peacock
No, no.
00:52:11
Curt
Exactly.
00:52:11
jamie peacock
But dance ah when fuck my brother and I started working, so my parents always had life insurance. And then cash was really tight when my brother and finished high school because they their business. They shut down. We're doing other stuff.
00:52:24
jamie peacock
So cash flow was fucking tight. They're like, listen, boys, you both have a job now. We need to cancel our insurance policies. It's eating a large portion of our monthly budget. If you want to take it over, by all means.
00:52:37
jamie peacock
pay the amount, you guys can have the life insurance. When when we die, you get paid out. Sean and I are like, nah, you guys are going live forever. Two years later, and my dad was fucking dead. I'm like, fuck.
00:52:48
jamie peacock
If I wasn't a dipshit, I could have kept paying his insurance to get a payout. But yeah, it is what it is. if i can
00:52:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:54
jamie peacock
You don't...
00:52:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:55
jamie peacock
In Durban, a lot of the time, like the older... The parents will move in with the with the kids, like in the back cottage or whatever. And then the kids start taking out insurance policies and waiting for them to die to get paid out.
00:53:04
Curt
Sure.
00:53:08
Curt
Oh.
00:53:08
jamie peacock
Like, it's a whole cultural thing there.
00:53:08
Curt
Oh. Oh.
00:53:10
jamie peacock
Like, take out a bunch of insurance policies on your parents.
00:53:12
Curt
oh
00:53:13
jamie peacock
Like, fucking shit yourself paying them all. And then when they die, you get a payout.
00:53:18
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:53:18
jamie peacock
I'm like, that's fucking rough.
00:53:20
Curt
That's dark, yeah.
00:53:20
jamie peacock
That's fucking rough. da I was making jokes yesterday at the...
00:53:23
Curt
That's dark.
00:53:26
jamie peacock
we had a community fundraising thing for the community policing forum and it was go buy some force rolls and whatever, enter raffle kind of story.
00:53:31
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:53:35
jamie peacock
So went down there and the one lady as a a real estate agent, she's like, no, do you want a sell it? I'm nah, not my house, my mother-in-law's. Waiting for her to die so I can get a 30% discount. She's like, what the fuck?
00:53:45
jamie peacock
like, there's three kids, she dies, I get a 30% discount.
00:53:45
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:53:49
Curt
ah
00:53:50
jamie peacock
I'm freaking savage.
00:53:50
Curt
oh
00:53:52
jamie peacock
No, it's, yeah, insurance sucks, that's the gist of it.
00:53:57
Curt
Yep, it sucks, but you kind of need it.
00:53:58
jamie peacock
So, did I ever mention that I was getting staining on aluminium parts?
00:53:59
Curt
So tell me about.
00:54:05
Curt
I think you did. i think you did.
00:54:08
jamie peacock
So, the coolant man came past this week. And I was like, here are parts, figure it the fuck out.
00:54:12
Curt
OK. Yes.
00:54:16
jamie peacock
Um... So he took some sample parts, went to his office, had a chat to the um to some of the other salespeople. said, turn the camera off, wife. Okay, my coffee is being delivered.
00:54:28
jamie peacock
My wife is well-trained.
00:54:28
Curt
Ooh. Oh, OK.
00:54:30
jamie peacock
um Yeah, anyway, so he took some sample parts for me to or from me to go and chat to his colleagues. And one of his colleagues has had a customer with a similar problem. Turns out it is the specific flavor of coolant that I'm using.
00:54:45
Curt
okay
00:54:45
jamie peacock
So I'm changing coolant ah coolants this week to from CU2 to something 200. He's going to come see me on Wednesday.
00:54:56
jamie peacock
And then we're going to pump out the LK and the Emco and swap them to to this new coolant and see if it solves problem.
00:55:04
Curt
Oh, cool. Okay.
00:55:04
jamie peacock
Because the problem is like making the keel clamps, they are slitting sword off and they fall into the machine. And if they are touching a dissimilar metal, they get a black mark on them.
00:55:16
jamie peacock
Like, within minutes.
00:55:16
Curt
Right. Yeah. you Yeah.
00:55:17
jamie peacock
Literally within minutes. So, I've got, like, 30 or 40 of the things that I can't sell because I've got black marks on them. So, we're going to switch. He said it's a slightly oilier coolant, specifically for running, like, it's better for aluminum, and it's a general purpose coolant still.
00:55:33
jamie peacock
So, yeah, it's a bit cheaper as well.
00:55:35
Curt
Oh, nice. OK, so you kind of, yeah. Oh, that kind of wins all around then.
00:55:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, so...
00:55:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's still got to shut out like fucking, yeah, couple hundred dollars for coolants, but it is what it is. What I'll do, I'm going to keep the good way on the CU2.
00:55:53
jamie peacock
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to say to Khmish and to Carl, come grab coolants. I'll pump out the LK to its low level. throw in the system cleaner, top up with a bit of water, run it at a bit lower concentration, but at least then i can get rid of like 50 liters of coolant and not have to dispose of it.
00:56:02
Curt
Right.
00:56:13
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, so they can just put it into their machines and there you go.
00:56:14
Curt
And they'll like that. So yeah.
00:56:17
jamie peacock
He has 50 liters of pre-mixed coolant. um And then I've got got to get rid of less of it because the Emco is really bad. um I'm getting staining on brass. I'm getting staining on aluminum.
00:56:30
jamie peacock
And like a lot parts I do are cosmetic. It's a bit of a fuck up. Like they drop into the parts catcher. An hour later, I go to grab out of the parts catcher and they're all stained.
00:56:38
Curt
ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:39
jamie peacock
I think so.
00:56:40
Curt
yeah That sucks.
00:56:40
jamie peacock
My actual thought is that it is the pumps that I'm using. So the Emco's coolant pump is a pond pump. It's just a submersible pond pump. And my skimmer uses submersible pond pump.
00:56:52
jamie peacock
And those are the two machines that I have a problem on. And I think the pond pump's insulation might just not be great. And I'm putting a potential into my coolant.
00:57:01
Curt
Oh, yeah, right.
00:57:01
jamie peacock
So it's I need to ground my coolant, but I'm to switch the coolant anyway and see.
00:57:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:06
jamie peacock
Hopefully it'll stop the arm bullshit and hand bullshit as well.
00:57:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:11
Curt
Right. Yeah. Cause you getting AIDS for that.
00:57:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:57:13
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:13
jamie peacock
So my arms, my arms looking really good because haven't run the machines.
00:57:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:17
jamie peacock
I wear bitch mittens now all the time in the workshop, but you still get splashing on your arms. So i'll my thing now, I come inside, I bought antibacterial soap and I wash my arms and hands like six times a day.
00:57:30
jamie peacock
So every time
Fitness Goals and Personal Anecdotes
00:57:31
jamie peacock
I come in to make coffee, gloves off, wash my arms and hands.
00:57:31
Curt
Oh.
00:57:33
jamie peacock
And that's kept it at bay for now.
00:57:36
Curt
Weird. Okay.
00:57:37
jamie peacock
but yeah, really fucking annoying. um
00:57:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:40
jamie peacock
So I'm trying to, i don't know, we'll see. That comes this week and we can we can see how that works. So AJ Subtracts and Kurt adds, I'm kind of curious. are you're starting Are you starting a manufacturing company called Ads?
00:57:55
Curt
It's exactly what I'm doing. I'm going to compete with them. and No, I got to shout out to AJ for like, he he talked about on his podcast. ah If you want to go listen to it, it's called Taps and Patience. If you don't listen to it and you listen to us, what are you doing?
00:58:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly.
00:58:08
Curt
um
00:58:09
Curt
um But ah he's basically saying like he's in ah a shape that he doesn't want to be. He wants to be into a different shape. um So he wants to lose some pounds. And I mean, to say that out online is...
00:58:20
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:58:21
Curt
Big, because then people are going to hold you to it. And it's like, so i commend him for that. But ah so he's going down and I want it like for the last while I've been wanting to go up. I'm a skinny bastard, so I want to get bigger. And I have two little girls who are eventually going to get some form of party.
00:58:36
Curt
in their life boy girl whatever there's going to be somebody that i want to intimidate and i can't just intimidate them with my you know creepiness um i'd like to be physically more intimidating so anyways uh so i've been going up which has been lovely so i think aj's lost about 30 pounds i've gained about 30 pounds so yeah uh if aj listens to this uh keep doing what you're doing and yeah for every pound aj loses i'll try to go up a pound because i think we got about we have about the same goals i think he wants to go down like another well maybe
00:58:38
jamie peacock
And you want to intimidate them.
00:59:03
Curt
I might not want to go up as much as he does, but I want to go up about another 30, 40 pounds. And I think he wants to go down probably another 30, 40 pounds. So yeah, I don't know.
00:59:11
jamie peacock
nice so so basically hearing is that you're bulking
00:59:12
Curt
I think there's tons of tons of... I'm bulking. He's cutting. And yeah, I mean, if we could just switch, that would be so nice.
00:59:17
jamie peacock
nice yeah so i have a rapid i have a rapid uh weight loss program it's called a saw you cut an arm off and then all of a sudden you're a lot lighter if you need to lose a lot of weight cuts a leg off
00:59:20
Curt
I would happily take 30 pounds of fat and turn it into whatever.
00:59:27
Curt
oh yeah, what's that?
00:59:32
Curt
Well, see, I figured out... I figured out this magic method. Like I've been like since high school, I've always been like going to the gym and just no progress. Um, so I finally found the secret. It took me forever.
00:59:42
Curt
Um, but the secret is you just got to eat more fucking food. It's just, that's the magic. You just got to eat more calories.
00:59:49
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. You got a fucking can bulk.
00:59:51
Curt
It's not that hard.
00:59:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's not that hard.
00:59:52
Curt
Yeah. You got to eat a sh shit ton of food.
00:59:53
jamie peacock
You just need to eat enough to make it worthwhile.
00:59:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:55
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. My, my other policy is, uh, eat less shit more if you want to lose weight.
00:59:56
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:01
Curt
yeah yeah it's Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
01:00:03
jamie peacock
One of my, so my, my mom fucking is part of a cult and does a weight loss stuff.
01:00:03
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:07
jamie peacock
My dad's thing is like, no fat people.
01:00:09
Curt
but
01:00:09
jamie peacock
They're just a few shits behind. Yeah.
01:00:12
Curt
I guess. Yeah. Yeah, no, exactly. It's just like, yeah.
01:00:16
jamie peacock
yeah I was thinking of getting ripped ah because I'm feeling a bit rounder than I should. But round is in is a shape. So technically I am in shape.
01:00:24
jamie peacock
Are you going for a walk, love? My wife is going to walk around the neighborhood like a creepy person. Don't steal too many plants. I went to the mom and her mom literally dug up someone's plant off the curb and took it.
01:00:24
Curt
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
01:00:32
Curt
Yeah, so.
01:00:37
Curt
Yeah, that sounds something.
01:00:37
jamie peacock
Because my mother-in-law's, yeah, special.
01:00:37
Curt
Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah.
01:00:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, yeah, AJ seems to be doing pretty well there that's brave putting it online like because then you're going to be held accountable.
01:00:45
Curt
Dude, yeah. Yeah, no doubt. So yeah, um I commend you.
01:00:48
jamie peacock
look
01:00:49
Curt
So I'll do the same and then people can call us out.
01:00:50
jamie peacock
yeah yeah with regards to your bulking there's a thing in the after show we will discuss ah something along those lines why is my mother-in-law phoning Danica your mom's trying to phone you crazy and her what sorry her whatsapp's open on this computer so the the computer was ringing because mother-in-law yeah
01:00:51
Curt
Oh no. so
01:00:56
Curt
Oh no. oh no that
01:01:09
Curt
Yeah. Oh, and I will say, because on the last podcast, Harrison said like, oh, I don't have time to like, i like go hit the gym or whatever.
01:01:16
jamie peacock
yeah
01:01:16
Curt
I went and like six months ago, I bought a set of straps and like gymnast rings. You can kick your ass with a pair of gymnast rings. Like you can do pull-ups, and push-ups, dips, rows.
01:01:25
jamie peacock
who
01:01:28
Curt
Like you do everything. You can kill yourself.
01:01:29
jamie peacock
Sounds like a lot of effort.
01:01:30
Curt
You can do like squats. You can do you do all kinds of crazy shit. You don't, and I hung it in the shop. It's right behind the mill here. So I like, I have no excuse.
01:01:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:38
Curt
and So anyways, yeah, you don't need a fancy gym.
01:01:39
jamie peacock
Mills running Kurt's doing pull-ups.
01:01:41
Curt
Dude, like that's how I start in the morning. I get the machines running like they can start doing their shit.
01:01:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:44
Curt
i get my exercise in. Yeah, we don't get a lot of exercise staying in front of machines.
01:01:47
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:01:48
Curt
So anyways, keep your keep your meat wagon happy.
01:01:49
jamie peacock
I know it's standing, but yeah. Yeah, no, 100%.
01:01:52
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
01:01:54
jamie peacock
Oh, God.
01:01:54
Curt
Yeah,
01:01:54
jamie peacock
Fucking
Workshop Fixes and Process Optimization
01:01:55
Curt
anyway.
01:01:55
jamie peacock
got to keep the meat wagon happy. So, do you like my last topic?
01:01:57
Curt
Yeah, I do. I do. Jamie, the electrician.
01:02:02
jamie peacock
So, yeah, with Fusion being retarded and ah waiting for sign-off on a few things, I went in electrician. the customer was like, hey, he's wanted me to go look at his mill for a while.
01:02:09
Curt
Okay.
01:02:12
jamie peacock
He's got a bridge port and the controls for turning spindle on and off and coolant in that are fucked. So, I was like, no, I'll just go buy box, put a box on it. So, I went there 20 minutes later. His mill's working.
01:02:23
jamie peacock
like just poked around and they used the existing cabinet just put a new control pendants on it for him and then he wanted me to make a panel for a for one of their presses that they bought so they tend to buy old fuck presses and then refurbish them and then use them this is a 80 ton eccentric geared eccentric so i went there made him a panel well like no we'll use this changeover because ah to me it looked like the three-phase motor was wired for two speed which i was like it's kind of weird but whatever
01:02:41
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:02:51
jamie peacock
um got it rigged up, built a counter into the box. Every time the press strokes, the counter increments so they can keep track of how many parts they're making. And wired the motor up and didn't sound very healthy.
01:03:04
jamie peacock
Turns out the motor's very fucked. So they're putting a new motor. But yeah, this thing is insane. The flywheel goes stupid fast, but it's geared like probably 10 or 15 to 1 to the actual eccentric.
01:03:18
jamie peacock
So it's like fucking spinning and then 50 strokes a minute.
01:03:18
Curt
Oh, okay.
01:03:23
jamie peacock
Fucking slow.
01:03:24
Curt
Oh,
01:03:24
jamie peacock
They are putting a tool on there now. They've got the part running on a vanguard, which does 90 strokes a minute. It's like to to to to to to throw and just shits parts out. They're now going to do 50 strokes a minute, except every punch out is every time it comes down is three parts.
01:03:38
jamie peacock
So instead of running a 72 millimeter strip, they're going to run...
01:03:39
Curt
cool.
01:03:43
jamie peacock
Instead of three times the width, they've nested it so they've come narrower. And they save, like, I think there's a couple tons of material every month for the same number of parts.
01:03:52
Curt
Right.
01:03:52
jamie peacock
They save a couple tons of material every month.
01:03:53
Curt
Yeah.
01:03:55
jamie peacock
So, yeah, fucking very interesting.
01:03:56
Curt
Wow.
01:03:57
jamie peacock
They're trying to optimize all their processes and rather have it run slowly and just not stop than have it run fast and be unreliable.
01:04:05
Curt
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, so very very interesting how they're adapting their business and, like, that stuff's coming to me for assembly.
01:04:07
Curt
That's cool.
01:04:13
jamie peacock
for Samo the Mamo to assemble.
01:04:13
Curt
That's cool.
01:04:14
jamie peacock
So like they're putting their assembly off site so they can have less guys running their presses and not have to deal with as many staff issues.
01:04:23
Curt
No, that's cool. That's cool.
01:04:24
jamie peacock
Yeah. The one who managed to crush his finger in a fucking hydraulic press that has a lever that you pull down and when you push up, it goes up. Somehow it's slow as fuck and he managed to crush his finger.
01:04:31
Curt
Oh.
01:04:33
jamie peacock
So that's why we made the print in place. I called it the mop speculum for installing the mop assemblies and I'll send you a video of it. um But yeah,
01:04:42
Curt
I was was wondering if someone put their little fingies in there. If that sort that was an impetus.
01:04:46
jamie peacock
not the first time bro they've had guys lose lose hands and fingers many times the oaks were pitching up to work drunk as well so now every morning everyone gets breathalyzed like you don't have to deal with staff staff suck yeah uh yeah the thought of staff you so no but yeah jamie was electrician it's great fun electrician in the new
01:04:48
Curt
Oh.
01:04:51
Curt
oh
01:04:59
Curt
Yeah.
01:05:02
Curt
Ragged. Yeah.
01:05:06
Curt
Nice.
01:05:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, I also made them a bunch of counters that I owed them.
01:05:08
Curt
Nice.
01:05:10
jamie peacock
I sell them counters. So it's just a counter in a box with the inductive that they put on. They bolt to their presses to count strokes. All their presses now have counters. So that the as it runs, the guys can keep track.
01:05:19
Curt
Nice.
01:05:20
jamie peacock
They don't have to like weigh or anything.
01:05:24
Curt
nice
01:05:24
jamie peacock
No, it's ah interesting doing work for them. It's very interesting.
01:05:30
Curt
Sweet.
01:05:30
jamie peacock
But yeah, I'm waiting on this. My opinion being in the middle of the week is a bit tedious. Right?
01:05:36
Curt
Yeah, fair. Yeah, that makes it fun.
01:05:37
jamie peacock
It's like now I'm waiting, waiting for a bunch of customers to pay. They pay on Tuesday. It's like sitting, being actively poor.
01:05:44
Curt
no.
01:05:44
jamie peacock
It's fun.
01:05:45
Curt
but
01:05:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm being actively poor, waiting for customers to pay so that I can i can get shit ordered and carry on with other projects. Also, the retrofit that are quoted in February.
01:05:59
jamie peacock
They finally came back to me like, oh can you give us a bit more itemized? I'm like, yeah, sure. No problem. Gave them an updated quote. What they don't realize is of the 60 hours I've quoted them, six of them are already burnt up.
01:06:10
Curt
Yeah, yeah, well.
01:06:11
jamie peacock
I drove there to quotes and they want updates. Sorry, I'm billing you for it. Get fucked. Like say you want a breakdown, I'm like, here's your breakdown. Here's the six hours you've already fucking spent of wasting my fucking time. But yeah, it looks like that's going to go ahead at some point.
01:06:24
jamie peacock
They're like, oh, no, we want to pay you for the parts so you can get them all ordered. And then when it's all here, we can do I'm cool. Pay me the fucking money and then we can talk.
01:06:33
jamie peacock
Because this was meant to happen like two months ago.
01:06:33
Curt
that's
01:06:35
jamie peacock
And they're dilly-dallying.
01:06:36
Curt
yeah
01:06:36
jamie peacock
But anyway. So what is in your
Miscellaneous and Wrap-Up
01:06:40
jamie peacock
Google box, Kurt?
01:06:42
Curt
ah My Google box has a bunch fun stuff. ah so it's pro yeah ah Actually, what another...
01:06:45
jamie peacock
I see this. Really fucking hell, Kurt. Sorry, I'm reading your last one. I know why it's there.
01:06:54
Curt
Of course you do. An Instagram person ah reached out and they run a site, helixfeed.com. He basically gave me a beta try on this.
01:07:05
Curt
It's like a, it's a API driven feeds and speeds calculator that ah interfaces directly with fusion. So ah anyways, I'm going to mess with it.
01:07:12
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:07:13
Curt
I'll let you guys know my opinion on it but if you want to check it out, helixfeed.com. He's just ah like a machinist dude and just wanted to make something cool and it looks like a pretty cool piece of software. So, i'll let you know if it sucks or if it's cool uh so that's in my google box uh solar crap um project hail mary leg solar shit um project project hail mary lego because my wife didn't believe that they actually made the like the little hail mary thing it's pretty freaking cool and then have you seen people kit bashing the little lego rabbit to turn it into rocky
01:07:21
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:07:27
jamie peacock
That's not what it says, Kurt. Thank you. okay
01:07:37
jamie peacock
It's really cool, yeah.
01:07:45
jamie peacock
No, I have not.
01:07:46
Curt
Yeah. They buy the like Lego rabbit or the Lego bunny or something like that. and they kit bash it to Rocky.
01:07:49
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:07:51
Curt
Um, anyways, uh, acetone versus lens coatings.
01:07:51
jamie peacock
That's cool.
01:07:55
Curt
Cause I wanted to know if obviously, uh, project nomad talked about that and then steel gray resin, uh, because, well, obviously what's up.
01:07:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:08:02
jamie peacock
I have a solution for that. Prints it in black and use rub and buff.
01:08:08
Curt
I probably, probably, um,
01:08:11
jamie peacock
That's what I'm going to do I've got black resin in the machine. i'm going to probably print some today.
01:08:16
Curt
ah because ah well So me and Jamie are both talking about, which I assume we are, as we're going to print the little ah figurines that are in Project Hail Mary movie because they're three d printed. um But I did...
01:08:24
jamie peacock
the STLs on the Project Elmeri website.
01:08:27
Curt
Yes, and I'm sure someone's already modeled the ships and all the other shit going print.
01:08:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:08:31
Curt
um But I did hear some behind-the-scenes content, and this is not a spoiler or anything, um but how they made those things is they 3D printed them, and then they ah played to them.
01:08:41
Curt
They just, ah like yeah.
01:08:42
jamie peacock
Oh, okay.
01:08:43
Curt
So I technically have everything here to do that, but I'm like, I'll just get some steel-grade resin first, and I'll just ah i'll print them out of that and be happy with it.
01:08:43
jamie peacock
How? What?
01:08:50
jamie peacock
Because I think black resin with a rub and buff would get you very close.
01:08:54
Curt
It very well would. The only problem is the only black resin I have is like my super annoying to print.
01:08:55
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:08:59
Curt
What the shit is that stuff called? Blue. ah Soraya Tech Blue.
01:09:03
jamie peacock
Worth it.
01:09:05
Curt
It just doesn't handle like super fine detail. So I just bought some cheap like ABS like that prints so much easier for the fine, fine, fine detail.
01:09:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've got black creality, and it prints like shit.
01:09:16
Curt
m Yeah.
01:09:17
jamie peacock
So I'm gonna I'll fuck around gonna print a big Deadpool for Danica as well.
01:09:17
Curt
So.
01:09:21
Curt
Cool. What's in your box?
01:09:22
jamie peacock
But ah Yeah, Eurotrip, because it's fucking can cool movie. I want to watch it again. Crazy Stupid Love, which is Ryan Gosling movie that Danica wanted to watch. It's one of her favorites.
01:09:32
jamie peacock
I hadn't watched it, so I watched it with her.
01:09:33
Curt
I'm
01:09:34
jamie peacock
Speaking of being intimidating, Kurt, that's why you need to be intimidating. So when Ryan Gosling picks up with your daughter, you can murder him. um
01:09:41
Curt
just a handsome bastard. Yeah.
01:09:42
jamie peacock
yeah Yeah, definitely.
01:09:43
Curt
Yeah.
01:09:44
jamie peacock
um Yeah, then looking up router login for my SUS routers because my mother-in-law's internet was poked, so I had to reboot all the routers through to her. Looking up TS-27R for dimensions and also cheap toolsetters for their dimensions for making it compatible directly compatible with the new product.
01:10:02
Curt
Smart, smart, smart thinking.
01:10:03
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, no, I want to try make it as compatible as possible. I mean, you can always just machine it yourself, like the the whole pants or whatever you need, but let's try and make it as compatible as possible.
01:10:11
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, so where can people find you, Kurt?
01:10:17
Curt
Find me and my things confoundedmachine.com, which links to everything, which links to this, which links to my YouTube, which links to places where you can buy shirt, and merch, and Patreon, all that jazz. And go listen to us rant about Project Hail Mary, which we'll probably do in the after show again today.
01:10:31
Curt
bo
01:10:32
jamie peacock
More definitely. um
01:10:34
Curt
How about you, Master Jamie?
01:10:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, follow the day-to-day happenings of the shop at jspec underscore engineering on Instagram. You can find the Fluck, the shirts, the podcast things at jspeceng.com. And you can find the anchor points and other workholding shenanigans at nauticalwh.com.
01:10:49
jamie peacock
There's also a nautical workholding Instagram, which just gets promo things for nautical workholding products. So yeah, you can follow that if you want as well.
01:10:57
Curt
Nice.
01:10:59
jamie peacock
um What are you up to? Well, what are you up to tomorrow, Kurt?
01:11:04
Curt
Tomorrow, Sunday, fun day. I'm actually going to do a little bit of work because i once I said, I kind of got my ass in a vice here between a bunch of work I have promised and I want to get out.
01:11:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:11:13
Curt
So yeah, probably do a little bit of work and then hang out with my little people and see if my camera lens blew up. But ah how about you? What are you have to today in sunny South Africa?
01:11:19
jamie peacock
Nice. I'm probably going to go work. It's Sunday morning.
01:11:23
Curt
fair
01:11:24
jamie peacock
I'm probably going to go. i didn't work too much yesterday. I've got a bunch of stuff I want to get done and now that Fusion's fixed. I think I'm going go and get some work done. Danica's got some work she wants to do, so I'll leave her to work and I will go do my thing in the workshop.
01:11:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, i need to make some yeah make a whole bunch of stuff. So I'm going to go play. I need to do some samples on the Emco as well. It's finally not got stuff on it, so want to quickly get the samples done. Because that's also a decent order.
01:11:50
jamie peacock
Like it's $1,000 or $2,000 worth of machining. And it's quite straightforward machining. it just I needed to get a collared wire cut and I need to make a stopper and all sorts of other shit.
01:12:01
jamie peacock
So that's why it's been delayed. No doubt.
01:12:05
Curt
Nice.
01:12:05
jamie peacock
a Sweet. ah Cool. Thank you, everybody, for listening. I hope you enjoyed it. For the patrons, there'll be another aftershow, probably about Project Hail Mary again.
01:12:13
Curt
Take
01:12:14
jamie peacock
um But yeah, thank you for listening. If you saw our faces on YouTube, and I think Spotify has our faces. Otherwise, if you just heard us on... Oh, Spotify doesn't have our faces.
01:12:24
jamie peacock
Because Danica's lazy. um She doesn't upload the video there anymore because no one watches it.
01:12:26
Curt
yeah
01:12:28
jamie peacock
So ah yeah, if you've heard us on Spotify, you can see our faces on YouTube. And if you've seen us on YouTube, you can hear just our voices. on a on Spotify. But yeah, thank you everybody for listening and we'll see you next week.
01:12:41
Curt
care, all.