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Ep. 60: Schrodinger's Guest
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Welcome to the Loan Machines Podcast, also known as the Schrödinger’s Guest Episode, where we ponder whether John is actually joining us or remains a ghost in the machine. In a harrowing turn of events, Curt recounts his battle with a porcelain ramekin that nearly claimed his eye during a routine oatmeal delivery for his rats—proving that while he wears safety glasses in the shop all day, the kitchen is a lawless wasteland. Meanwhile, Jamie has declared "open season" on expired patents to launch his Nautical Workholding line, including the new Keel Clamps and a control panel he is wiring with exclusively blue wire to ensure maximum "savage" confusion for anyone attempting to troubleshoot it later.
Between reviews of the DC Collet system and its unexpected flex, we dive into the quest for acetone-resistant archival ink for the perfect pen refill and the logistics of punching half a million nails "for her pleasure" on an eccentric press. Whether you are here for the debate on "piss plastic" (Ultem), the shocking logarithmic power of 30W lasers, or Curt’s four-year-old’s deep dive into classic Pokémon, we’ve got you covered.
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Loan Machines Podcast, where it's just you, the work, and the machines. Today is Schrodinger's guest episode. We will see if John is going to be joining us. What have you got going on today, Kurt?
00:00:12
Curt
ah Today, i will talk a little bit about 2024 versus 2025.
Nautical Workholding and Patent Opportunities
00:00:18
Curt
The porcelain bowl, a porcelain bowl nearly takes my eye out. And I think I'm going bring Energel refills because everyone's been yelling at me to make that style of pen. But how about you, Master Jamie?
00:00:28
jamie peacock
Fancy. We're going to be talking about nautical workholding, quoting a boatload of things, and a review of the DC Collet system.
00:00:37
Curt
Ooh, sounds...
00:00:38
jamie peacock
it is So, how are you this day, Kurt?
00:00:42
Curt
I'm doing quite well. I saw your little ah post. Actually, your post came across my feed of like the little blocks with like nautical um lasered into it.
00:00:48
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:00:50
Curt
And I was like, oh, these are cool. I'm like, this kind of like reminds me of like Jamie's stuff. And then I'm like, wait, this
Workholding Challenges and Solutions
00:00:55
Curt
is Jamie. like I thought it was a company releasing little blocks. so Yeah, you did well. you
00:00:58
jamie peacock
So it it is, Danik has been trying to push me to start nautical workholding for a while, hence Anchor Point.
00:00:59
Curt
it looked good.
00:01:06
jamie peacock
um Because we ah kind of want to separate it from Jspec Engineering, but also, when it's since it's just been Anchor Point, there's been no need to separate it. So we're going to separate a section on the website in the store to Nautical Workholding, and then spin up another website, and bought a domain.
00:01:23
jamie peacock
i think it's NauticalWH, but it's also spelt differently, because Danica and her friend got hold of the name.
00:01:24
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:01:32
jamie peacock
But yeah, I discovered on Friday night that the patent that stopped me from pursuing those, she expired.
00:01:33
Curt
Mm.
00:01:39
Curt
Oh, really?
00:01:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, 2020. Last time I looked into it was 2019, and there was still a patent in place, and now the patent has expired.
00:01:42
Curt
Int? Oh.
00:01:47
jamie peacock
So open season. um But as with everything, or what is our specific value add to them? And in this case, it is supplying negative volume models.
00:01:59
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:01:59
jamie peacock
So you pull the negative volume model, you mate it to your components in your fixture, you Boolean subtract it, and there you go. Cutouts done, holes in the right place, everything. You can pull the model of the parts in if you want.
00:02:11
jamie peacock
And if you really want, you can go machine the thing yourself. But we can machine them pretty cost-effective.
00:02:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:02:18
jamie peacock
The first hundred will probably be up for sale next week.
00:02:22
Curt
Oh, wow. Cool. Cool.
00:02:23
jamie peacock
ah so I have 100 M6 screws on hand. So those are the first ones that are coming to market, is the M6 keel clamps. And then ah from there, we'll we'll roll out the rest of them.
00:02:35
Curt
Oh, cool. And do want to like, can you describe what they like, what they are? just
00:02:38
jamie peacock
Ah, yeah. so I can describe it, but I don't want to name the the patent that I'm infringing on.
00:02:43
Curt
didn't know. i don't know if that's the way was.
00:02:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:46
Curt
I don't know if you want to. That's why I didn't say it. So.
00:02:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. So it's ah it's a... um It's, ah I use it for second op. also use it for first op on some things, but mostly for second operations. So on fixtures, it's a little, it's a little aluminum clamp that actuates with a countersunk screw.
00:03:06
jamie peacock
Let's put it that way.
00:03:07
jamie peacock
Yeah. I've got a video of how to use them on on this channel if you're on YouTube. um If you're not on YouTube, we're on YouTube as well, and go
00:03:07
Curt
Perfect.
Safety in Everyday Tasks
00:03:15
jamie peacock
subscribe. But there's a video there. i think yeah it's one of the Anchor Point videos. I describe how to use them, and you can see the ones that I've made in the past. and used that It's one of my go-tos for second ops because they're really simple, and they work pretty well if you are just doing like just taking a top hat off and chamfering.
00:03:31
jamie peacock
then they work really well.
00:03:32
Curt
yeah, yeah.
00:03:33
jamie peacock
um And I've used them for salami-style, holding material for salami-style sales wall, like a piece of brass, 40 millimeters high.
00:03:34
Curt
Interesting.
00:03:40
jamie peacock
I clamp it with that, and then salami-style whole lot of parts off of it.
00:03:45
jamie peacock
I also them for holding extruded aluminum, because they only have about a 0.25 of a millimeter travel range, plus minus.
00:03:45
Curt
Oh, I'm just.
00:03:53
Curt
OK, yeah, yeah,
00:03:53
jamie peacock
So from from if you pull in the negative volume, you can go bigger about 0.25 or smaller about 0.25, and then you run out of clamping.
00:04:02
Curt
OK, well, that's enough for most people's needs, especially if it's like a second op.
00:04:02
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you should be a lot closer than that.
00:04:05
Curt
Yeah, interesting.
00:04:07
jamie peacock
um It varies a bit with the extrusions, but yeah, they work. They work really well. So that's the beginning of the the product list there. I have some other shenanigans that are pursued a little bit back in 2019.
00:04:16
Curt
Ooh.
00:04:22
jamie peacock
And then obviously patents, I let it ah let it go. i didn't pursue it. And now there's some other stuff coming that's Also kind of cool for for mostly pallet work holding kind of stuff, but for your optus where you need ah like a two millimeter lip to grab something or two millimeter step to grab something.
00:04:41
jamie peacock
I've got another another version of those that's got
Laser Engraving and Precision Tools
00:04:44
jamie peacock
two holes and you can effectively bolt that down with the shim and then Miller pockets and then loosen and you can clamp your parts. So yeah, those are coming as well, but they're there a little bit further out.
00:04:58
jamie peacock
And I might be fancy and make rocket clamps, but we'll see.
00:04:58
Curt
cool cool awesome
00:05:03
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:05:03
Curt
ooh you have the whole meal deal
00:05:05
jamie peacock
Well, though the rocket clamps are not particularly hard to machine. um That patent also expired in 2021. Yes.
00:05:14
Curt
oh interesting okay hmm hmm pinteresting
00:05:15
jamie peacock
yes So it looks like a whole bunch of work holding patents expired around 2021.
00:05:22
jamie peacock
Because that's also how the SMW VAS works. I was wondering if they were licensing that. Because the patents specifically calls out using a countersunk bolt to actuate. And I'm assuming they're doing that now because the patent went away.
00:05:34
Curt
Right,
00:05:37
Curt
right, right, or right.
00:05:38
jamie peacock
I thought they were licensing it. They might have licensed it until the patent went away, but I don't actually know.
00:05:44
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, he's, I mean, John seems like a pretty above board kind of dude, so I imagine he'd be doing something like that, but.
00:05:45
jamie peacock
My assumption was they were... Yeah. I mean, that's where i discovered them is from their original products.
00:05:54
Curt
Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, they were using them there, and that's how i discovered it.
00:05:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:58
jamie peacock
But anyway, enough talking around the around the topic. But yeah, that some more and more information will be coming on that in the in the coming days. But yeah, I kind of like the name. That name was suggested by Norman.
00:06:09
jamie peacock
Thank you, Norman, because I know he listens.
00:06:11
Curt
I'm surprised that they can patent something like that. Like, that just seems like a function.
00:06:14
jamie peacock
um
00:06:14
Curt
Like, I,
00:06:15
jamie peacock
it
Fusion Toolpath Frustrations and Solutions
00:06:16
Curt
it's like.
00:06:16
jamie peacock
The way it was patented was really clever, the wording of the patients. Yeah.
00:06:21
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:21
jamie peacock
And it patented the app of actually clamping with the inclined plane of the but of the screw. So, like, they covered themselves super well.
00:06:31
Curt
But that just seems like me holding a door open with a wedge. It's just like, yeah, of course.
00:06:34
jamie peacock
Well, as long as you're the first one to do it, it's fine.
00:06:36
jamie peacock
There's no prior art.
00:06:36
Curt
I know.
00:06:37
Curt
it's
00:06:37
jamie peacock
So, it's...
00:06:38
Curt
That's why I'm like, patents are kind of like, whatever.
00:06:40
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:40
Curt
They are whatever.
00:06:41
jamie peacock
It was 95.
00:06:41
Curt
So anyways.
00:06:42
jamie peacock
Like, the thing is now, I can't go and patent it because there's existing examples of it. Like, that's thing, like...
00:06:48
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:06:49
jamie peacock
Danik and I discussing this a lot of a lot of companies will patent something um or they'll apply for a patent. They'll let the patent lapse just so no one else can patent that process.
00:07:01
Curt
Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:02
jamie peacock
No, there's also that there's also that angle. But I mean, this patient was held up for 15 years. So from like 95 through till 2020. It's a pretty 25 years.
00:07:11
Curt
That's a long time.
00:07:12
jamie peacock
It's a long time to hold their patents. And then yeah there's a bunch of them that seem to have lapsed around there. We're looking them up on Friday night.
00:07:20
Curt
interesting, interesting.
00:07:21
jamie peacock
So new exciting things.
00:07:23
jamie peacock
So, yes, let's, ah I don't know where, I want to know how you nearly lost your R.
00:07:23
Curt
It does sound exciting, yeah.
00:07:28
Curt
Pick a topic. So people that are watching on video, you can see there's two little marks on my nose, like little cuts. and i was just taking a little porcelain bowl out of one of my cupboards, says make an oatmeal for one of my little rats.
00:07:42
Curt
And it just slipped out of my hand.
00:07:43
jamie peacock
Hmm.
00:07:44
Curt
It's like a ramekin. So it's like a thick porcelain bowl and it it slipped out of my hand and I went to catch it and then I picked it up. And as I was picking it up, I must've caught the edge of the stove or the counter or the cupboard or something and just fractured it.
00:07:55
Curt
And the little fractured piece went spiraling past me and just wailed me right in the nose and rolled up my face and went gone. And like it happened so quick. i was don't even what happened. i was like cleaning up little bit bits on the floor. And then I go look in the bathroom. There's blood running down my nose. I'm like, what the heck? i'm like, oh, that little piece hit me.
00:08:11
Curt
And like porcelain's razor sharp. So just sliced and... I just like two inches
Development of Keel Clamps and Practical Applications
00:08:16
Curt
to my eye side and like it would have took my eye out. And it's just like, it's so dumb. Cause like I wear safety glasses in here like all day.
00:08:21
Curt
Cause I'm always concerned. Someone's going hit me in the eye and i only have one spare and like you lose an eye just by some absolute random.
00:08:25
jamie peacock
yeah
00:08:29
Curt
Yes. Anyways, I'm just going to start wearing a helmet and safety glasses 24 seven. Like that seems like the better way.
00:08:35
jamie peacock
We're a face-visor.
00:08:36
jamie peacock
Go back to 2020, we're a face-visor.
00:08:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:37
Curt
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. You know, suit of armor and like, yeah.
00:08:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've been seeing posts of remember the pandemic days where it's fucking oaks with like bags over their heads and snorkels and all sorts of shit. It was great.
00:08:51
Curt
Yeah, I love it.
00:08:52
jamie peacock
oh
00:08:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:54
jamie peacock
The internet is great.
00:08:54
Curt
so
00:08:54
jamie peacock
The internet will not let you forget that stuff.
00:08:58
Curt
I love, yeah, I know.
00:08:59
jamie peacock
Yeah, the internet is great.
00:08:59
Curt
It's awesome. So anyway, so that was that was me taking my eye out, but I was nearly a pirate.
00:09:01
jamie peacock
So you nearly died in the kitchen, basically.
00:09:05
Curt
Yeah, I'm just like making oatmeal.
00:09:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:07
Curt
It's like, what a lame way to lose an eye. hu
00:09:11
jamie peacock
Oh yeah, that would have been a really dumb way to lose our... Oh yes, we have clicky things.
00:09:14
Curt
Yeah, so...
00:09:15
jamie peacock
um
00:09:16
Curt
um
00:09:16
jamie peacock
Yes, your your coins are looking really spiffy.
00:09:20
Curt
Dude, thanks so much. Yeah, they came out really well.
00:09:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:22
Curt
It's happened. They took a bajillion years to laser. So the mill I actually got a lot of responses from people being like, oh, I'd love to buy one.
00:09:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:29
Curt
I'm like, I can't sell them because it takes me literally like 24 hours to laser one.
00:09:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:34
Curt
So it's like, what am I going to sell them for?
00:09:35
jamie peacock
That's insane.
00:09:36
Curt
like It's not a powerful laser. so And um I want to go in
Business Growth and Financial Reflections
00:09:40
Curt
like two millimeters in. So just it's a lot of passes. like If I did it with like 100 watt fiber, it'd probably be like significantly better.
00:09:49
Curt
um
00:09:50
jamie peacock
how many watts is yours oh okay apparently 20 to 30 it's not a 10 it's not a 50 increase it's like a fucking 200 increase my mate yeah my mate uh my mate dylan from wd hearn he does the lasers for them and he was saying yeah from a 20 to 30 it's not just oh it's 50 more powerful it's like two or three hundred times it's significantly more powerful
00:09:51
Curt
But 20. Yeah.
00:10:01
Curt
Oh, weird. Because that's weird.
00:10:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:14
Curt
I would.
00:10:16
Curt
I always thought it was like log-based, like sound, right? Like if you want to double your sound, you have to have 10 times the power. Like i I thought it was similar in this and this land, but interesting.
00:10:22
jamie peacock
Apparently, it's fucking inverse log, apparently.
00:10:25
Curt
Interesting. Okay.
00:10:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, you were saying, like, it's what would take you 10 seconds to engrave is now, like, a one-second engraving job.
00:10:27
Curt
Well, let's...
00:10:33
jamie peacock
Like, it's significantly more powerful.
00:10:33
Curt
Ooh.
00:10:34
Curt
Okay.
00:10:37
jamie peacock
i had a long chat to him about this.
00:10:37
Curt
Okay. Yeah,
00:10:38
jamie peacock
He's like, why'd you buy 20? I'm like, because that's all I could afford.
00:10:41
Curt
yeah, yeah. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. I'm talking with a few actual people that other that have like...
00:10:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, bigger ones.
00:10:47
Curt
I'm looking at a few MOPAs and fibers and I think one will be in my future soon just because they're they're so nice.
00:10:52
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:10:53
Curt
Like they're so such valuable units.
00:10:55
jamie peacock
Well, I mean, the engraving, the work holding on the side of those clamps is like just over half a mil tall.
00:10:55
Curt
um
00:11:02
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:11:04
jamie peacock
It's freaking tiny.
00:11:04
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:05
jamie peacock
And it does it beautifully.
00:11:06
Curt
I know.
00:11:06
jamie peacock
Like, it's insanely accurate.
00:11:07
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:09
jamie peacock
Well, no.
00:11:10
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
00:11:10
jamie peacock
it's It's able to reproduce insanely small details.
00:11:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:13
jamie peacock
Where said details are is anyone's fucking guess. Because the only way to line anything up is to trace it.
00:11:17
Curt
Yeah. yeah
Pricing Strategies in Machining
00:11:20
jamie peacock
Like, yeah. Yeah.
00:11:21
Curt
Yeah, exactly. I know.
00:11:23
jamie peacock
It's, hmm.
00:11:23
Curt
what Same thing. I wanted really high accuracy alignment jigs for these little coins. Because like if you're if you're off center on a coin by like just a fraction of a millimeter, your eye will pick it up and it looks dumb.
00:11:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:33
Curt
like Instantly looks cheaper.
00:11:33
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:11:35
Curt
So the same thing. I put ah i put a piece of ah stainless, actually anodized aluminum in the laser. And then I lasered with the fiber where the coin would go. Then I took that out, measured that. And then I printed a jig with like adjustment screws.
00:11:46
jamie peacock
Oh nice, yeah.
00:11:47
Curt
So that when I put it against the stops in the machine, I can use the adjustment screws to skew it perfectly. And then same thing, do a few light passes with the laser to see if everything's lined up and then just honk on it.
00:11:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:56
Curt
But yeah, so.
00:11:56
jamie peacock
So, so Matt from Blackwell Engineering does an X, a low profile XY table for this exact reason for the lasers.
00:12:05
Curt
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I was looking at his stuff.
00:12:05
jamie peacock
They're really nice.
00:12:06
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Now I need to, I need to get some of the stuff from my machine as well.
00:12:06
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:08
Curt
I know he was...
00:12:12
Curt
I know he he actually reached out a few podcasts back and was like, oh, I don't have anything that fits that laser.
00:12:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:17
Curt
He's like, but I have like a bunch for the X tool. And I'm like, oh, um don't worry. Like, I'm not going invest money into this thing.
00:12:20
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:22
Curt
um But yeah, it was he's got some cool stuff.
00:12:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, we actually discussed that. We discussed that about the other week. um Because he says, like, the X-Tool he got, he bought one, made the fixtures for it, sold the laser, and made a killing selling fixtures for it because no one makes them.
00:12:37
Curt
Right. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.
00:12:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:40
jamie peacock
So, that's a very that's a very lucrative um section of the market. Like, the laser guys think what he's doing is expensive. The machinist thinks what he's doing is cheap.
00:12:51
jamie peacock
It's quite interesting. luck
00:12:52
Curt
That's like it's exactly what I thought when I went on a site and looked at some of his like big fixture plates because they got like 9,000 holes on them.
00:12:53
jamie peacock
yeah yeah
00:12:58
Curt
And I'm like, oh, I'm looking the price and you're like, should just buy
Tool Break Detection and Efficiency
00:13:01
Curt
that for my mill. like it's It's so inexpensive in our land.
00:13:03
jamie peacock
well yeah i mean yeah but he's doing it on his on a speedio that machine is made for for that kind of thing it's really quick ah job the more I learn about speedios the more I want one especially the H5 there's no agents in South Africa
00:13:04
Curt
like Yeah.
00:13:09
Curt
yeah Yeah, exactly. exactly Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:17
Curt
I'll pick one up. Pick one up.
00:13:22
Curt
Oh yeah. Yeah. Fair, fair, fair.
00:13:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, very annoying. and Probably for the best.
00:13:26
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:27
jamie peacock
Because they are stupid expensive. Yeah. While they're stupid expensive there, they're going to be even more stupid expensive here.
00:13:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:34
Curt
I was, uh, when I was looking at the X5, I was also looking at like the brother, uh, S 500, I think is that, is that of the four, five, four or five.
00:13:34
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:13:40
jamie peacock
yes Yeah, 500 mil. 500. five hundred
00:13:43
Curt
whatever the tinier one is, um, or maybe it's 300. they have a smaller one?
00:13:48
jamie peacock
I don't know. I know they do a 5, a 7, and a 1,000. 500, 700, 1,000.
00:13:53
Curt
Okay.
00:13:53
jamie peacock
Same as the LK. 500, 700, 1,000. Same as the RoboDrill. Because those are the standard sizes of a RoboDrill.
00:13:59
Curt
Okay.
00:14:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:02
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
00:14:03
Curt
Yeah. And it was just like, it was like, I could get two X fives for the price. And i was like, okay, I just don't have the budget for it, but I would love, I would love one.
00:14:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:09
Curt
They're pretty cool.
00:14:10
jamie peacock
They do such cool things. Like the pre-position during tool change and all sorts of fun stuff. But, again, you don't need it.
00:14:15
Curt
Although with that said, I've run this machine i've run this machine at 20% rapids. I run it at slow rapids because I don't need the speed. that like it so like It would be wasted on me anyways to to have more. like Why would I have more?
00:14:25
jamie peacock
Yeah, run everything. i only run everything at 50% nowadays. Like, unless it's something really short, then I'll do 100%. Otherwise, 50%, she's good enough. It's still 24 meters a minute.
00:14:34
Curt
Yep, totally.
00:14:36
jamie peacock
It's still terrifyingly fast. You just get very used to it. Yeah.
00:14:40
Curt
I have a ah same thing. I have it set so that like, yeah, when i boot into my programs, whatever is running at like same thing with the slow rapid, it just to be easier on the machine. um but But my warmup, sometimes I forget
Investing in Machining Tools
00:14:50
Curt
that it it's a full rapid and like the the head will be in a weird position and it just rapids up to to its top.
00:14:55
Curt
And it freaks me out when I'm like, oh, warmup hit going. Just like, what you're like, oh, okay. Forgot about that. Forgot about that.
00:15:01
jamie peacock
It feels like it's going to shoot through the roof.
00:15:02
Curt
And that's, And that's still nothing to it. Like, I think I have whatever, 1500 inch per minute rapids. Like, I think a speedio is like much quicker than that.
00:15:14
jamie peacock
inches yeah thirty eight meterss of minutes I think you're a bit faster than that.
00:15:16
Curt
Oh yeah. Sorry. Yeah.
00:15:18
jamie peacock
i would expect it to be a bit faster than that.
00:15:20
jamie peacock
I would expect it to be along the lines of everyone else, which is 1,800 or 1,900 inches per minute.
00:15:20
Curt
I can't remember, but it
00:15:29
Curt
could be. Yeah, it could be.
00:15:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:30
Curt
ah You might be right.
00:15:31
jamie peacock
And, I mean, like the big horizontals get up to 60 meters a minute, which is just insane.
00:15:31
Curt
You might be right.
00:15:36
Curt
Holy crap.
00:15:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:38
Curt
With that much mass.
00:15:38
jamie peacock
2,400 inches per minute with all that mass just yeeting about.
00:15:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:43
Curt
That's so much power to stop it too.
00:15:44
jamie peacock
No. What does it?
00:15:46
Curt
Like we're not, we're not moving it like an inch ish. Like it's like,
00:15:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, it's... ah the The brothers, they've got videos somewhere comparing their 2G acceleration versus 1G acceleration and how much time it shaves off of the cycle time.
00:16:00
Curt
Oh yeah.
00:16:02
jamie peacock
It's insane.
00:16:03
Curt
Totally. Yes.
00:16:04
jamie peacock
But yeah, the brothers are really cool machines.
00:16:04
Curt
Yes.
00:16:07
jamie peacock
But yeah, you get what you pay for.
00:16:08
Curt
They are cool.
00:16:09
jamie peacock
um
00:16:10
Curt
Yep.
00:16:10
jamie peacock
So I have been running my DC tool holder.
00:16:14
Curt
Yes.
00:16:15
jamie peacock
Yes, my 90mm one.
00:16:16
Curt
That's.
00:16:16
jamie peacock
So I bought a 90 and a sixty millimeter
00:16:19
Curt
Okay. Yeah.
00:16:19
jamie peacock
long. I've noticed the 90 is not as rigid as my ER20. About the same projection, um but I'm noticing flex in the in the cutter, like it's deflecting more.
00:16:27
Curt
Okay.
Torque Screws and Toolpath Execution
00:16:33
Curt
Okay.
00:16:33
jamie peacock
So I'm having to do like an extra skim pass here and there to get it on size.
00:16:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:37
Curt
Hmm.
00:16:38
jamie peacock
Just because it's ah it's a skinnier body, so it's less rigid.
00:16:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:42
jamie peacock
So I'm going to swap it to the 60 and see how how that runs. But I freaking love it. That lens I sent the picture of, that was machined with the DC holder.
00:16:52
jamie peacock
The 6mm NMIL in the DC.
00:16:53
Curt
Oh, that's it's so pretty.
00:16:54
jamie peacock
That NMIL's also done all the anchor point bodies that I did last week.
00:16:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:01
jamie peacock
And a bunch of other random shit. Yeah.
00:17:01
Curt
And you use it on acrylics still?
00:17:03
Curt
Like that that wasn't a new end mill?
00:17:05
jamie peacock
No. It was a new NMIL a week ago.
00:17:06
Curt
Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, yeah, that's that's crazy impressive then.
00:17:09
jamie peacock
Yeah. A week ago, like 40 clamps ago, and a couple anchor point bodies ago, whatever and a bunch of mag bases ago.
00:17:15
Curt
Holy crap.
00:17:18
jamie peacock
to think what else I've run in the last week.
00:17:21
Curt
um I'm curious to see what ah what an actual sharp end mill would do then to acrylic.
00:17:21
jamie peacock
Like...
00:17:25
jamie peacock
Yeah. Like that one, it's only, it's only touched aluminum. um A little bit of 70, 75 and mostly 60, 82. um But yeah, it would, I'm pretty happy with that finish.
00:17:36
jamie peacock
Like that, you spray with a little bit of spray polish and like give it a quick rub and the thing's shining.
00:17:42
Curt
Yeah, it's really pretty.
00:17:42
jamie peacock
It's way, yeah, it's way better than the lathe would have done. It's with its fucking face grooving tool. I was a bit annoyed. It was like a $40 face grooving tool that exploded as soon as I touched.
00:17:49
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:17:54
Curt
Oh, that's what you're talking about.
00:17:54
jamie peacock
Because it's a one millimeter wide face grooving tool.
00:17:55
Curt
Face-grooving. Yeah, yeah, okay.
00:17:56
jamie peacock
Yeah. um Solid carbide and it just gone. So that was literally $60 worth of tool and reducer sleeve.
00:18:01
Curt
Oh, bummer.
00:18:06
jamie peacock
And then I put it in the mill and just did it in the mill with a tool that's also the one millimeter end mill has run 200 parts. And I used it for something else the other day.
00:18:14
Curt
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:18:15
jamie peacock
Like, if it isn't broken, don't take it out the mill. If it's not making bad finishes, it's good enough.
00:18:21
Curt
Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, I'm with that.
00:18:21
jamie peacock
No.
00:18:22
Curt
but Huh.
00:18:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:18:24
Curt
Wow.
00:18:25
jamie peacock
But yeah, it was interesting to see there or to yeah to see the the yeah the dc actually that kind of flex. You don't see it, but you can tell it's not as rigid as it was.
00:18:37
Curt
Well, I guess even compared to like 16, ER16, probably half the shank size.
00:18:41
jamie peacock
It's a lot less material.
00:18:42
Curt
like It's
00:18:44
jamie peacock
I noticed it.
00:18:45
Curt
yeah
00:18:45
jamie peacock
So the place I noticed it was mechanical anchor point op 7s, the final op. When I bought the bores for the Langstuds and the SMW dials, I noticed it there because I measured, I comped, and I recut, and it was dead on.
00:19:02
jamie peacock
And then the next part I put in, um machined it, and it was undersized by like five Michaels. So I reran that cycle and then it was dead on. So it's obviously flexing on that last cut.
00:19:14
jamie peacock
So I just made two finished passes and called it a day.
00:19:18
Curt
Yeah, fair.
00:19:18
jamie peacock
But that was also very infuriating to program. Have you used Fusion's radial toolpath?
00:19:25
Curt
Yes, yeah.
00:19:27
jamie peacock
It is the worst because it doesn't tell you why it's not computing.
00:19:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:31
jamie peacock
You've got to give it an inner and outer radius of yes,
00:19:31
Curt
Oh, i yeah, okay. Oh, i I think I went through that game. I think I played that headbanging game. for yeah Yeah, now that you say that.
00:19:39
jamie peacock
I spent 15 minutes on that on Friday night squaring at Fusion because it won't tell me why the fuck it won't generate a bloody toolpath because I did a radial toolpath on the bottom because it looks cool.
00:19:45
Curt
Yeah. Yes, yes. I think I played that exact same thing.
00:19:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:51
Curt
I had an ID and I was i wanted to radial out.
Production Logistics and Anchor Points
00:19:53
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:19:53
Curt
And I'm like, and it would just, it would radial out to, and the problem was it was radiating, radiating out to like some geometry.
00:20:00
Curt
It looked like it was, but it was just playing, picking up a default value. And I changed a thought. I'm like, why won't you go to the edge? And then I'm like, oh shit.
00:20:08
jamie peacock
I was selecting all the faces and I'm like, what is going on?
00:20:10
Curt
Yeah. Okay.
00:20:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was quite frustrating. But yeah, I got that all programmed up.
00:20:15
Curt
I forgot about that.
00:20:15
jamie peacock
And then I don't know if you saw the double-ended pallet or double-ended whole stud.
00:20:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:20
Curt
ah No, I didn't.
00:20:20
jamie peacock
I made a double-ended pallet. So it's one of my thick round ones that goes onto the anchor point.
00:20:23
Curt
Perfect. Yeah.
00:20:27
jamie peacock
And then I machined the top, put another pull stud in it. And then, ah well I know where that hole is. I'll double-check when I put it back in. Skim the top again, and then load it in upside down.
00:20:38
jamie peacock
Machined the back off. Works beautifully.
00:20:41
Curt
Nice.
00:20:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, those those shipped today.
00:20:41
Curt
Nice.
00:20:44
jamie peacock
The anchor points that were pre-ordered.
00:20:44
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:20:45
jamie peacock
So they left today with...
00:20:46
Curt
Cool.
00:20:47
jamie peacock
They got some keel clamps in the bag. Or in the box?
00:20:51
Curt
Oh, lucky ducks.
00:20:52
jamie peacock
Yes, because I discovered this on Friday and machined them on Sunday, threw them in the box today.
00:20:53
Curt
Cool.
00:20:59
Curt
Nice.
00:20:59
jamie peacock
Like, you know, Jamie's fast turnaround production.
00:21:04
Curt
Dude, that is like my number one tip to anybody is just build it and get it out there. Like even just like give it away.
00:21:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:10
Curt
Give it away and let people test because you will learn so much more than ever instead of just sitting in front of CAD for 10 days.
00:21:14
jamie peacock
Exactly.
00:21:16
Curt
Like just build it and get it out there.
00:21:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:18
Curt
Yeah, cool.
00:21:18
jamie peacock
I mean, I've used these clamps for for years. I think I've got fixtures.
00:21:23
Curt
Sure.
00:21:24
jamie peacock
I think the, yeah, the the bolt belt, my Kickstarter that I did a few years ago, well, five years ago, the loops where used these exact clamps.
00:21:35
Curt
Oh, interesting.
00:21:35
jamie peacock
Now, I used a pit bull on one side and I used a keel clamp on the other side.
00:21:35
Curt
Okay. Yeah.
00:21:41
Curt
Cool.
00:21:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, that I mean, if it's dumb and it works, it's not dumb.
00:21:42
Curt
Cool.
00:21:45
Curt
Yep.
00:21:45
jamie peacock
So,
Analyzing Business Metrics
00:21:46
Curt
Nope. Exactly.
00:21:46
jamie peacock
um...
00:21:47
jamie peacock
let's okay i want to kind of well let's let's dig it let's dig into your 2024 topic 2024 verse 2025. so and twenty four verse twenty twenty five
00:21:53
Curt
Okay. And that doesn't have to be super long here either. um So I like, I keep all my data obviously for business stuff in, in Airtable, um which lets me go back in time and look at each year. and I'm like, I also obviously want to make sure that I'm progressing. You don't really want to be shrinking unless there's some reason for it.
00:22:12
Curt
So I'd looked at my 2024, just like expenses, like what I made, what I put in my pocket and then looked at my 2025
00:22:23
Curt
It was funny, like it was first disheartening because like like I grew in 2025 for sure, but I'm like, I didn't, I'm like, I should have like, there should have been a lot more.
00:22:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:31
Curt
And I was looking at my like, I spent, what did I do? Like I made a lot more, but I also spent a lot more. And I was, so I'm like, I'm crunching it out in my head. I'm like, there was growth, but I'm like, there should have been like 50% growth, not like, you know whatever. It was like 20% or something like that. And then I started going back and like looking at my times. I'm like, oh yeah, wait, I bought my mill and was down. Like I bought the sile then.
00:22:52
Curt
and I'm like, I lost like probably collectively put together probably three months of like good production time. And then I probably had another three months of like figuring out how the shit to put everything on that machine and get it functioning well.
00:22:58
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:06
Curt
And then I probably had ah three, three, three, I guess we're running out of months now. um Like I probably only had about a third of the year where it was actually running, not even a third, a quarter of the year where it was actually running all the things that I wanted to run on it.
00:23:19
Curt
So anyways, it was just kind of, it's fun to see to be like, oh yeah, I guess like, it's so easy to forget like where you sink time into things until you look at the end of the year. Then I was like, i was like, actually I did a lot better
Operational Costs and Profitability
00:23:29
Curt
than I thought once I consider all the time I lost. So don't Numbers don't lie.
00:23:32
jamie peacock
No, that's, yeah.
00:23:33
Curt
So it's, it's nice to look back.
00:23:35
jamie peacock
No, that you can very quickly sink a whole lot of time into something very dumb or where you don't where you don't see any direct benefit and then you feel down because, oh, I haven't grown as much as I want.
00:23:47
jamie peacock
Meanwhile, you've been s sinking a lot of stuff into the back end that will hopefully pay dividends.
00:23:51
Curt
Yeah. Well, and it was was it was my stepdad was over here on the weekend and I was i was chatting with him. And it's just like funny because like you get like... it's kind of like a game of like, it's kind of a game of pinball when like you're running your own company.
00:24:04
Curt
Whereas like the high score, the previous high scores don't matter. It only matters like your, your recent high score and you kind of just feature, not feature creep, but like you like lifestyle creep without spending it.
00:24:14
jamie peacock
Yeah. So...
00:24:15
Curt
But like you, that's the wrong way to say it. You like salary creep yourself into a position where you always think like, Oh, that's not very much. That's not very much. And then I like, you look back and be like, if a day job would pay me this, like,
00:24:27
jamie peacock
yeah
00:24:27
Curt
If you talk to anybody else and you were like, this is what I make at your day job, they'd be like, that's a fantastic salary. But like when you're doing it yourself, you're like, I could do more. Like, I'm just, I know I could do more. I'm just, I'm hamstrung here.
00:24:36
jamie peacock
so
00:24:37
Curt
And like, it's so weird.
00:24:39
jamie peacock
So this is a conversation I've been having with Khamish and with Carl, because both of them have now gone out on their own. And Carl especially, I've been discussing this with, because i also, hello, Carl, I know you listen.
00:24:50
jamie peacock
um We've been discussing this where he's quoting at, let me just put this into dollary dudes. He's been quoting jobs on his lathe at, oh, that's millimeters, sorry, $18 an hour. And I'm like, dude, that's not enough.
00:25:07
jamie peacock
Yes, you'll get lots of work, but you are not making enough money.
00:25:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:11
jamie peacock
So the other day was here im like, Okay, you need to sit down and work out what your monthly overheads are. And then divide that by how many hours in the month do you want to work. So in my case, it's 168 standard um You need to take a total amount of money you
Capital Investments and Business Justification
00:25:30
jamie peacock
need to get through and divide that by 168 and then see what your actual running cost is.
00:25:36
jamie peacock
Like know mine.
00:25:37
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:25:38
jamie peacock
Sorry, guys, that's my minimum price. If you don't like it, fuck off. I mean, at that at working at that price, I'm putting food, i'm barely putting food on the table. Everything else is paid, but i'm I haven't budgeted for food at that point.
00:25:50
jamie peacock
um So we can't actually pull out at that rate. And that rate just slowly creeps up over time because cost of living. So you've got to be very careful that you don't keep undercharging people. Like I quoted a job today.
00:26:05
jamie peacock
I haven't got the models. So I had to model the fucking parts so i could get a rough idea on cycle time. Through the toolpath to get an idea of cycle time, I'm going to go and optimize the ever-living shit out of it because there's 28 of each components.
00:26:10
Curt
Right.
00:26:17
jamie peacock
And I was like, okay, material cost is $40. This part's going to $90 or $100 part. Because theyre even that, that's apparently very low. It's normally three times material.
00:26:28
jamie peacock
But I know if I go in at that, I'm not getting the work. It's also knowing your knowing your customer. Also, the guys are like, if if the price isn't too steep, we'll we'll order all 28 of all five part numbers now for delivery in eight months' time. Like, we want nine, nine, ten.
00:26:44
jamie peacock
I'm like, that works for me. They want to pay before month end because month end here is our financial year end. So there if if they've got the budget, they want to put it through in this financial year, not next financial year.
00:26:55
jamie peacock
And I'm like, whatever. Money in my bank account. I don't mind. I'll machine all the parts, put them on my shelf. So, yeah, we've been...
00:27:01
Curt
Right, right.
00:27:03
jamie peacock
But, yeah, yeah yeah it's interesting. Like, Carl's thing is like, oh, he's charging so much. Like, if he was earning that hourly, I'm like, yes, that's all good and well, except you're not earning it hourly.
Business Efficiencies and Tax Advantages
00:27:14
jamie peacock
You have to pay for everything else.
00:27:15
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:16
jamie peacock
Like, that that's the thing.
00:27:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:18
jamie peacock
And it does. It creeps. Like, my hydraulic holder and tool in it that costs close to $1,000, like... it's like Yeah, that's really nice.
00:27:30
jamie peacock
I like it. I don't regret it at fucking all. It's great. But tell me that two years ago and I would have slapped myself.
00:27:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:38
jamie peacock
You want to spend $1,000 on a tool holder and a fucking tool? Are you on drugs? Like, especially if you roll back to before got the LK.
00:27:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:45
jamie peacock
You must be fucking kidding. Like, now the LK changed all that maths and it continuously changes all that maths.
00:27:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:53
Curt
Yeah, it's it's it's such a it's just such a mind melter to like, yeah.
00:27:54
jamie peacock
know.
00:27:58
Curt
especially when you're like Especially when you start looking at, well, like like anybody, like you look at expenses and you're like, if I ever spent this much money in, like i said, one sitting, you you'd poop your pants.
00:28:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly.
00:28:07
Curt
and just like It's a trippy thing.
00:28:09
jamie peacock
Like, oh, I want to buy hydraulic vase.
00:28:10
Curt
So anyways, it's kind
00:28:11
jamie peacock
It's like, yeah, I want a hydraulic pneumatic vase.
00:28:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:15
jamie peacock
It's like, in the business scheme of things, it's not that expensive.
00:28:20
jamie peacock
But I could also just go buy a car.
00:28:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:23
Curt
Yeah, but then and then you also get like this weird, like like like we've talked about a million times, like owning your own business is a life hack for like everything. Because like if I want, like right now I'm looking at cameras, I'm looking at buying a new camera.
00:28:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, business expensive.
00:28:35
Curt
So like if if you work to nine to five, sure, you're buying that, but you're you're paying tax dollars on an item that you're going to taxed that is only going to depreciate.
00:28:40
jamie peacock
yes
00:28:43
Curt
Whereas like you own a business, like you're paying basically untaxed dollars onto a product that you can write off. So this is like you you kind of get, and you can claim it,
00:28:49
jamie peacock
And you can claim the sales tax if you're correctly registered.
00:28:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:53
Curt
Yeah, like you there's all kinds of weird, not not even loopholes, just like the world the
00:28:56
jamie peacock
It's using
Setting Revenue Targets and Cash Flow Challenges
00:28:58
Curt
world is built for businesses.
00:28:58
jamie peacock
the system. Yeah.
00:29:00
Curt
Totally. Yeah, it's all like, anyways, just it's fun.
00:29:00
jamie peacock
No, exactly. Like, even now, I'm looking at the um The Bamboo Labs printer. It's...
00:29:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:09
jamie peacock
so it's o I don't know how if this is going to work. Yes, I can literally get a thousand rand discount on it, on a six thousand rand printer, just by claiming the tax back.
00:29:22
Curt
Yeah, nice.
00:29:22
jamie peacock
So i can I can claim back like $60 on the price of that printer just because I can claim the tag the sales tax.
00:29:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:29
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:30
jamie peacock
So it makes the... It changes the maths on these things.
00:29:36
Curt
Totally. I know ah one thing I've ah kind of wanted to do, like there's not an easy way to it. I'm trying to find a way to do it. is so like I usually look at my running 30 days. So like whatever from now, 30 days back.
00:29:46
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yes.
00:29:48
Curt
And i use it I do like my expenses, profit, or like money coming in, money going out.
00:29:48
jamie peacock
yes
00:29:53
Curt
um And I just look at that value because that to me is a ah good deterministic thing. um And 30 days is averaged out enough that it works for my my purposes because i kind of sell in batches. So my income spikes.
00:30:04
Curt
um But like I want to take that and then divide that by 30 days and then have that as a running total i would like it to be present i just i can't find a way to like make that present because i would love a little like a little screen on my monitor that's showing me like my daily whatever but i would need like i would need it to know what i'm selling in real time so it would never work out but like it'd be so cool to see a value to be like oh i'm burning money today or oh i'm gaining money today and like i don't be fun
00:30:32
jamie peacock
so So when Danica got retrenched, um all of a sudden we had to be profitable. I did the maths on it. I needed to make $120 a day. That's all actually needed to make because we had no real overheads.
00:30:42
Curt
Sure. Yep.
00:30:44
jamie peacock
We had no machine payments.
Interest in Swiss Machines
00:30:46
jamie peacock
And now that's gone like stupid. But I mean, that that's how I looked at it. Have I invoiced that amount today? Or am I going to invoice double that tomorrow or triple that the next day to make up for the days that I haven't invoiced money?
00:30:59
Curt
Yep.
00:30:59
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, that was that was the way I looked at it for many years. And then you would invoice a whole lot, but then you would spend a whole bunch on, Fancy new shit you didn't really need. um Yeah, it's a bit of a slippery slippery slope there.
00:31:10
Curt
That's
00:31:13
Curt
Dude, that's the best. like Anybody that's wanting to go out on their own, that's my favorite metric to tell them. It's like, okay, take your day job. like You're obviously making enough money at your day job right now to keep keep your head above water.
00:31:22
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:23
Curt
So I'm like, take what you're making at your day job and like divide that out by the amount of days in like a month or your pay period or whatever. And I'm like, that's that's now make that.
00:31:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:32
Curt
like Yeah, there's taxes and whatnot, but just like aim at that value first.
00:31:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:36
Curt
And it is it's usually pretty, like unless you're getting paid extremely well, it's usually a value between probably...
00:31:41
jamie peacock
It's pretty easy to hit.
00:31:43
Curt
Between 100 and 500 bucks a day.
00:31:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:45
Curt
And it's like, if you can find a way that you can sling that amount of stuff, like making whatever knitted doilies, if you can swing 200 bucks a day, you could do that.
00:31:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:53
jamie peacock
You, yeah. you Yeah.
00:31:56
Curt
You could do that forever. It's like, yeah.
00:31:58
jamie peacock
Yes. The problem with doing it forever is you're doing it forever and if you don't do it, um yeah, if you don't do it, you then start falling behind.
00:32:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:07
jamie peacock
I'm now very curious. I just got a message.
00:32:12
jamie peacock
um where did norman put this ah okay cool uh okay cool found them found the question for later sorry norman just messaged me because i'm put on the group that uh we were recording with our ghost guest um yes we will see maybe he is sleeping and then we might have to have him on you want to have norman on
00:32:22
Curt
No sweat.
00:32:32
Curt
i selfishly want to have normalm ah says's I selfishly want to have Norman on the podcast so he can just tell me all about a Swiss in detail and drive all our listeners away. We'll have five-hour podcast and we can just only chat about that.
00:32:45
jamie peacock
Hmm.
Tool Management and Efficiency
00:32:46
jamie peacock
Hmm. You are being ah you're being a bad influence now.
00:32:52
Curt
Maybe we could get, we could get, um i keep forgetting that gentleman's name who's working on the ah crappy Swiss to make it into a better Swiss. We'll get him on
00:33:01
jamie peacock
Oh, Luke from Fabtastic.
00:33:02
Curt
We'll get,
00:33:06
Curt
Luke, fantastic. Yeah, I chat. He sends me messages all the time.
00:33:07
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:33:08
Curt
I don't know. I can't remember his name. Sorry, Luke. um We'll get him on. We'll get Norman on. We'll get ah Harrison from Taps Patience because he's considering Swiss. I'm going to get all these Swiss dorks in one spot and we're just going to like, we're going to conjure up the Swiss universe.
00:33:18
jamie peacock
yes I like this plan well I'll pop Norman a message live on the podcast to see if you'd be keen to well <unk>i hop onto the podcast so Kurt can harass him about Swiss machines so let's see what he says yes because I'm that savage yes we're doing it live this week because a guest I wouldn't say issues stuff came up yeah
00:33:33
Curt
No. of We're doing it live.
00:33:44
Curt
and just He's a sleepy little bear.
00:33:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, it is what it
Quality Production and Shipping Considerations
00:33:50
jamie peacock
is. All right, cool. Let's carry on with our list here. I see you are running Torque screws.
00:33:54
Curt
Yeah, man.
00:33:55
jamie peacock
How are you running Torque screws, Kurt?
00:33:58
Curt
Oh, fuck. Don't tell me. Don't. um So Jamie's lovely anchor point, which is perfectly designed for torque screws because I put 12 in there because that's a nice balance between if I break the tool on screw number one, I don't... I should be doing tool break detect.
00:34:12
Curt
Let's talk about something different.
00:34:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, why are you not doing Toolbrake to Tech, Kurt? That's the more important thing.
00:34:17
Curt
um Do you want to know why I'm not doing tool break detect? Because when I was pissing around with my system, I blew up my auto tool changer code and it freaks out.
00:34:19
jamie peacock
speak to
00:34:25
Curt
Or not all tool changer. My touch off the tool touch off. Um, and it's pissy. It, there's something in the logic where it is very angry and it does not want to auto touch off for me.
00:34:37
Curt
So, uh,
00:34:38
jamie peacock
Okay, I'll send you code tomorrow, Kurt. Just pop me a message and I'll send you my code. I literally wrote a subroutine to do tool break detection.
00:34:47
Curt
I have like, the problem is a sub.
00:34:47
jamie peacock
And I used the built-in Siemens toolbreak detect macro to do that kind of, yeah.
00:34:50
Curt
Okay. Send me yours if you don't mind because the style one jumps to like, it's somewhere in the internal like L whatever, 592.
00:34:53
jamie peacock
It's like five lines of code.
00:35:01
jamie peacock
Yeah, can now.
00:35:02
Curt
Like it's it's not just a simple macro because it's like I've chased it down.
00:35:04
jamie peacock
so what yeah So what I did, I call a sub-program titled TBD, tool break detect.
00:35:06
Curt
and Yeah.
00:35:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:10
jamie peacock
And then it turns the spindle off, turns the coolant off, cancels offset, or does something, runs fucking up.
00:35:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:17
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, cancels offset, runs up, re-enables the offset, jogs over to a saved coordinate above the thing, like 10 mils above, and then does the tool break detect.
00:35:24
Curt
Yep. Yep.
00:35:26
jamie peacock
And if it fucks out, it stops. If it doesn't, it continues.
00:35:30
Curt
There's the problem, though. The tool break detect, the actual the actual logic of what the machine is seeing.
00:35:34
jamie peacock
Mine uses the Siemens built-in cycles.
00:35:38
Curt
That's the cycle I'm working on. It's fucked up in that cycle somewhere. Because I reloaded.
00:35:43
jamie peacock
Weird.
00:35:43
Curt
Remember when I, yeah, I
00:35:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, you reloaded
Machining Precision and Standards
00:35:45
Curt
reloaded.
00:35:45
jamie peacock
the PLC.
00:35:46
Curt
Yeah, so I don't think, I think there's a missing element to the PLC, um or there's something in the latter that's fucked.
00:35:50
jamie peacock
Hmm.
00:35:52
Curt
So yeah, it's not as trivial as just, because I've been chasing it through, I'm knocking my phone, sorry folks.
00:35:55
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:56
Curt
ah I've been chasing it around trying to figure out where it is, and it's, it just,
00:35:59
jamie peacock
So it's, but your tool measuring works.
00:36:02
Curt
ah no, nothing works, no.
00:36:04
jamie peacock
Oh, fuck. Okay, that's a bit of a problem.
00:36:06
Curt
So i I have a man, like I have it set up manually where I just like jog over and I basically just boop it because I changed tools so infrequently.
00:36:10
jamie peacock
And
00:36:12
Curt
I don't really care, but I care because that's a, and honestly, my, my table probe, I use it so infrequently. It sticks occasionally, even with my shroud on it. I'm like, I still get ingress into it.
00:36:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, let's...
00:36:23
Curt
So I'm like, I don't like you.
00:36:24
jamie peacock
Oh, you need a pressurizer for the air. Yeah.
00:36:28
Curt
That's a ticket.
00:36:28
jamie peacock
You need, yeah, that's that's what I did. i replaced the pipe, but mine didn't come of a wire.
00:36:32
Curt
Yep.
00:36:33
jamie peacock
I put a pneumatic hose and I pressurized it next to the wire that it always blows air out front.
00:36:37
Curt
I think I got to do that.
00:36:38
jamie peacock
um It also may be that when you loaded your PLC, there are two probe inputs on the back of your controller and it might be assigned to the wrong probe input.
00:36:48
Curt
I think it's actually to do with a limit somewhere, one of the limits, because it'll basically just tell me like there's an XY like over travel limit essentially. um But I don't know what it's reading.
00:36:58
jamie peacock
Even on small tools,
00:36:58
Curt
So it's anything. Yeah. Even center line, like just pure. Yeah.
00:37:03
jamie peacock
and know I know what your issue is.
00:37:06
Curt
Hmm.
00:37:06
jamie peacock
ah know exactly what your issue is, and I'm sending you a file right now.
00:37:12
Curt
This is why you have friends, folks.
00:37:12
jamie peacock
Yeah,
00:37:15
jamie peacock
I'm sending you the procedure for the, you're missing you're missing the variable on the size of the tip.
00:37:26
Curt
Oh, me?
00:37:26
jamie peacock
So it it doesn't know how big the tip is.
00:37:26
Curt
I don't...
00:37:30
jamie peacock
So it's but on the probe.
00:37:30
Curt
I'd like to... No, wait. It does, but send me it regardless. Yeah, yeah, it does, because
00:37:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, on the probe.
Tool Measurement and Calibration
00:37:36
Curt
i have those I have those saved as variables.
00:37:38
Curt
But either way, send me it. I might be i might be speaking out of school. So I appreciate your help.
00:37:42
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, you got to put it in like six different fucking places.
00:37:45
Curt
That's probably the issue. It's probably it's probably freaking out because it doesn't know where to do.
00:37:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:37:50
Curt
Even if I'm doing a straight probe, I imagine it's it's looking at those variables to make sure they're not zero.
00:37:50
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:37:53
jamie peacock
It is, to make sure the tool is not um to make sure the tool is not bigger than it.
00:37:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:59
Curt
Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:00
jamie peacock
So, yeah, you've got to... Where is it? I'm trying to find it in this list.
00:38:05
Curt
This is also one of those things where like I can message style and they would probably tell me, I just like, I always forget about it and I'm like ah, I just don't care.
00:38:05
jamie peacock
you know
00:38:12
Curt
So I should probably fix it. Cause once again, it would save me when I do break that little tool, it would save me probably an hour each time.
00:38:17
jamie peacock
That's it, Doc.
00:38:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:19
jamie peacock
The tool break, even if, yeah, it's super useful to have. So there sent you the the thing.
00:38:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:25
jamie peacock
There is a set of, there's a list of variables that you've got to change. um And I know, yeah, there's ah there's a normal, there's an MD parameter, and there's also an SD parameter for the probe a little tip thing.
00:38:29
Curt
Thank you. Thank you mine, sir.
00:38:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, you've got to set both.
00:38:39
Curt
Okay, maybe because I was only looking at the MD parameters.
00:38:42
Curt
Okay, that might be it.
00:38:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, there's an SD parameter as well.
00:38:43
Curt
I appreciate it
00:38:44
jamie peacock
I know because I ran into this issue.
00:38:47
Curt
Okay, I appreciate it. I will i will fuck with that.
00:38:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. And it's also got the the whole calibration procedure and all that shit in there as well.
00:38:49
Curt
yeah
00:38:53
jamie peacock
It's how to install it, basically.
00:38:53
Curt
Sweet, okay.
00:38:55
jamie peacock
Everything short of where to hook it up.
00:38:58
Curt
Okay, sweet.
Fixture Development and Production Scaling
00:38:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:38:59
Curt
Oh, yeah, okay.
00:38:59
jamie peacock
So that that will probably solve it.
00:38:59
Curt
Beautiful, thank you.
00:39:01
jamie peacock
I'm actually asking our for a manual for installing a OMP40. I'm trying to see if i get the manual for that.
00:39:07
Curt
Oh, okay. Oh, Pinterest thing. Okay. Yeah.
00:39:10
jamie peacock
I'm not putting an OMP40 in my machine, let's be clear.
00:39:11
Curt
Interesting.
00:39:13
jamie peacock
But I need to know where to hook it up and what to change to make it work. So, yeah. Some shenanigans.
00:39:19
Curt
I was, uh, I, I, I hate the little pioneer table probe. Like this is my second one. I got a free one and I, I think I'll pressurize it maybe.
00:39:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:27
Curt
And then I, I honestly it was like, fuck it. going to put a Renishaw in there. And I talked to a few guys, like I posted on Instagram and a ton of guys at Renishaws are like, dude, mine still sticks occasionally. i'm like, what? So I was like, so then it,
00:39:36
jamie peacock
Mine has been super reliable lately, but it's always got air going through it, and I made the little jacket, the little cover for it, so that it doesn't get straight up bukkakied.
00:39:39
Curt
Okay.
00:39:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:44
jamie peacock
Because if it gets straight up bukkakied, it gets stuck like every day.
00:39:48
Curt
Yeah, I have same thing. I have a huge cover on mine. I have drain holes. So like, even if water gets in, it will never get to the little stylus. so um I say never water will get anywhere it wants to.
00:39:55
jamie peacock
yeah
00:39:58
Curt
Um, but I think pressurizing it will help or I just bite the bullet.
00:40:00
jamie peacock
yeah i've got i think i think i had like a ball going through it all the time so i just bought a little regulator with a flow controller and then set the pressure and adjusted the flow till it was leaking an appropriate amount of air also because really cool sell me the replacement seal for the front
00:40:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:12
Curt
I just go to a laser probe.
00:40:16
Curt
Oh, right. I remember you had to make that one. Yeah.
00:40:18
jamie peacock
I made one and it's caught inactive.
00:40:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:20
jamie peacock
That's why I forget put the pressure on there. ah But yeah, that's been shockingly accurate.
00:40:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:25
jamie peacock
I do get a bit of thermal growth um that's measurable.
00:40:25
Curt
Oh, good.
00:40:29
jamie peacock
And I've also noticed my drills are changing length a little bit.
00:40:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:33
jamie peacock
But I think that might take a split point. and I think might just be aluminum in the split point that's causing the variation at length.
00:40:37
Curt
Hmm.
00:40:38
jamie peacock
Because I've now taken to like when I'm machine anchor points, I have a setup sheet.
Vacuum Workholding for Thin Parts
00:40:43
jamie peacock
Setup sheets in Fusion got way better. If you generate all your code and post it out and go to the NC program and right-click on there and say Setup Sheet, it gives you a whole list of options for only the tools, all the operations, like simplify.
00:40:57
Curt
oh
00:40:58
jamie peacock
There's a whole bunch. So I do only the tools. And then ah make sure the tools on the machine, I touch them all off one after each other and tick them off on this thing that I know all the hearts are the same because day-to-day, there'll be a 20 micron mismatch.
00:41:07
Curt
yeah okay interesting yeah that's a good way to do it yeah nice yeah slick
00:41:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I touch them all off and it all blends properly.
00:41:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. Let me see what Norman says.
00:41:23
Curt
So yeah, anyways, after that huge derailment, yeah, they run they run like a dream.
00:41:23
jamie peacock
This is a very interesting podcast. ah But yeah. Yes.
00:41:28
Curt
They basically only only don't run when I break the tool.
00:41:28
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:41:30
Curt
And then I swap the tool, and they run again.
00:41:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:32
Curt
And yeah, that's perfect.
00:41:32
jamie peacock
Just imagine how many you could fit on an anchor point palette.
00:41:35
Curt
Do you know ah how long it takes me to change up my little palette of 12? Because it's I have to unscrew each one.
00:41:41
jamie peacock
done it I'm going to assume here it takes less time than it takes to machine.
00:41:48
Curt
It does. Significantly less.
00:41:49
jamie peacock
That's why you have two palettes.
00:41:50
Curt
so it And you know what? I'm not building another pallet that fits in my vice deliberately so that every time I have to look at myself in the mirror and be like, what are you doing with your life, Mr. Flopchuck?
00:42:01
Curt
Because you have a better solution and you're not going to build a... It'll take me an hour to build another pallet. It would solve the issue, but I'm not doing it out of spite because I'm like, no, I want to go to a zero point and I don't want to do this stupid system anymore. So anyway.
00:42:17
Curt
Yeah, whatever.
00:42:17
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah. Zero points are the way. Like, I don't know if you saw my...
00:42:21
Curt
um
00:42:22
jamie peacock
I don't know if you saw this this week.
00:42:24
Curt
I'm a member of the the church of zero point. Oh yeah. I did see your little ultimate flock.
00:42:27
jamie peacock
Yes, Ultim Fluck
Press Tools and Hiring Plans
00:42:29
jamie peacock
doesn't work one-handed.
00:42:31
Curt
Oh really? Why not?
00:42:33
jamie peacock
The magnet is so strong it bends it when you try push the blade forward. So it's a two-hand operation Fluck.
00:42:37
Curt
ha
00:42:38
jamie peacock
works, just two-hand operation only.
00:42:42
Curt
Cool. Yeah. That's annoying.
00:42:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, so machined them. I machined two them, and it was great. And, yeah, no bad idea. because it's flexible. Ben was actually saying he stopped making ultim handles for his knife because they were too flexible as well.
00:42:50
Curt
ah
00:42:55
Curt
like I like the look of Ultima.
00:42:57
jamie peacock
Oh, it looks awesome.
00:42:57
Curt
Some people are like piss plastic, but I like the piss plastic.
00:42:59
jamie peacock
Yeah. Someone, someone called someone else called it that called it something like that. i think it was Danica.
00:43:06
jamie peacock
Oh,
00:43:06
Curt
Oh, yeah?
00:43:09
jamie peacock
yeah, she called it.
00:43:13
jamie peacock
ah She called it something derogatory like that. So Norman says he can't make it today.
00:43:18
Curt
Oh, that's fine. I didn't expect it, but... Norman, you're doing you're doing the Lord's work, so keep posting about your Swiss machine for me only.
00:43:20
jamie peacock
Well, was worth a try.
00:43:25
jamie peacock
Yes, the Swiss machine is quite impressive. Well, speaking of Norman, actually, don't if Norman is a patron. I think he's a patron. Anyway, it doesn't matter. He's not on the list of patrons, but I think he is a patron. ah We have Patreons. that They make of the wheels on the train go round and round.
00:43:40
jamie peacock
Thank you to all of our Patreons. They all get access to the after show where Kurt and I discuss things. um Today, it looks like it's going to be interesting stuff my customer said. um But yeah, the top tier and $13 or more, they get shouted out every episode.
00:43:50
Curt
Yes.
00:43:57
jamie peacock
And that list is Jade from Benchmark 20, Luke from Fabtastic, who has a Swiss blade that we're very interested in. ah AJ from Subtract Manufacturing and 32
Efficient Production Planning
00:44:07
jamie peacock
other companies, Jason S, EJ from Nocturnal Welding, the Aussie Machinist, Christian Olsen, Charles Watt, Carl from Kirst Machine, Matt from Wolf World Gear, and Alex B. Thank you all. And yeah, the IMTS Airbnb has been reserved.
00:44:21
jamie peacock
So thick jaws coming up.
00:44:22
Curt
Ooh.
00:44:24
jamie peacock
um Yes. And there's also wall of fame on the website and some bonus content where I rant about carts.
00:44:31
Curt
Ooh. Okay.
00:44:32
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:44:32
Curt
I wonder what switch to bonus content now, but yeah.
00:44:34
jamie peacock
Yes, i think I think that's what it is. i don't know. I haven't actually looked at our website. That's Danica's job. ah to
00:44:41
Curt
Sick.
00:44:41
jamie peacock
Anyway, um yeah, on Friday night, I was really battling with nocturnal welding and calling nautical workholding nocturnal workholding.
00:44:42
Curt
Cool. Tell me about,
00:44:52
jamie peacock
Like the whole night during the Discord hangout, I kept saying it wrong.
00:44:58
jamie peacock
Because it's, yeah, it's ah a bit a bit of a tongue twister there.
00:45:03
Curt
I think I have your your email too, so I'm going to look at, I don't know if you announced it in there.
00:45:04
jamie peacock
But
00:45:08
Curt
Ooh, the green anchor point is pretty freaking sick.
00:45:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, the green splatter. I put it on um Instagram. I'm like, you guys have 50 minutes to vote on the color. These are the options. Because I just put it in the acid tank.
00:45:18
Curt
Hmm.
00:45:20
jamie peacock
And green won. So i was like, I don't actually want another green anchor point. So I was like, screw that. Green splatter. Let's go.
00:45:28
Curt
That's pretty cool looking. it's Yeah, that's pretty cool looking.
00:45:29
jamie peacock
It looks really cool. Yeah. That one is going on my table.
00:45:30
Curt
Yeah, does it does look cool. Yeah,
00:45:32
jamie peacock
Number one goes in my fourth axis.
00:45:35
jamie peacock
um I need to build another riser now. so I'm going to build a riser that is just lower than the top of the um the anchor points on my table. So when
00:45:35
Curt
yeah.
End Mills Performance and Longevity
00:45:45
jamie peacock
I take this one out, the I can still span everything.
00:45:45
Curt
OK.
00:45:49
jamie peacock
it does Because I don't want to unbolt one of my anchor points because they are ah known position. So i want to have a fifth anchor point in my machine. So I'll make a riser that bolts the table and then it sits kind of towards the front.
00:45:58
Curt
Gotcha.
00:46:01
jamie peacock
um And then I can just swap it on and off because its bores are really accurate. I got pretty good at making the Lang boards pretty accurate because we changed the whole process.
00:46:07
Curt
Perfect.
00:46:10
Curt
That's awesome.
00:46:10
jamie peacock
yeah So that that is the plan.
00:46:12
Curt
And that's fun. That solved that issue now.
00:46:15
jamie peacock
I think so.
00:46:16
Curt
Okay. I guess you're not.
00:46:16
jamie peacock
I don't think the ones that went out are going on Lang plates.
00:46:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:19
jamie peacock
As far as I know, they're not. But I'm fairly certain we have solved that issue now.
00:46:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:26
Curt
Sick. Cool.
00:46:27
jamie peacock
Because yeah everything's machined all in one and yeah the boards are like 10 to 12 microns bigger, which is dead on the spec.
00:46:27
Curt
Cool. Cool.
00:46:34
jamie peacock
So it should be fine.
00:46:36
Curt
That's so tight. That's tight.
00:46:38
jamie peacock
It's really cool to be able to just easily hold those tolerances. I had a little bit of trouble holding it on the op ones on the bodies.
00:46:43
Curt
Yeah, I know it's...
00:46:47
jamie peacock
i was getting I got a chip on the taper at one point, and then i was like, hey, why is this bigger by like 40 microns than it should be? um Cleaned all the tapers, cleaned the spindle out, and then it was dead nuts from then forward.
00:47:00
jamie peacock
So I don't know if I just got unlucky and one splashed up onto a tool holder or something. um
00:47:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:05
jamie peacock
But after that, it was dead nuts.
00:47:08
Curt
That's so cool. It's cool to just like go back, like just take a step back and be like, we have cool machines that can do really amazing things.
00:47:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:12
jamie peacock
Well, I was machining rear-roller rollers last weekend, and it's like, oh, I need to adjust about 10 microns.
Sample Housing Production and Logistics
00:47:21
jamie peacock
adjust shit why didn't it adjust and again why the fuck is not adjust i've got like a millimeter why is it not adjusting oh this is not programmed with tool way um so i put it to in controller and then you're just dead nuts every fucking time like i'm now adjusting my on the so the dc collets run super true um i'm running it at 5.995 and that gets me microns over
00:47:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:46
Curt
Nice.
00:47:46
jamie peacock
oversize, over nominal.
00:47:48
jamie peacock
And if I want to be under, i go 6.02, and that gets me 20 microns to 30 microns undersize.
00:47:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:56
jamie peacock
Like it's they super concentric, especially compared to ER.
00:47:59
Curt
Yeah. that's
00:48:00
jamie peacock
Although having said that, the ER collet that I was using for ER, super concentric, even when changed cutters, it was pretty good. But that, it's been slammed a few times into a pot.
00:48:13
jamie peacock
So it deserved to be retired.
00:48:14
Curt
It doesn't help. Oh,
00:48:17
jamie peacock
Like, it really did deserve it.
00:48:18
Curt
man.
00:48:20
jamie peacock
But yeah.
00:48:22
Curt
All right.
00:48:22
jamie peacock
Yes, we've covered that.
00:48:24
Curt
You got mechanicals are shipping. Yeah, that's awesome.
00:48:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:26
Curt
ah What are sample housings?
00:48:28
jamie peacock
The first ones of shit. So remember that lovely job I was quoting for like 700 fucking housings?
00:48:34
Curt
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Ah.
00:48:35
jamie peacock
Yes. Can we have quote for 10, please?
00:48:39
Curt
ah
00:48:39
jamie peacock
So I was like, not a problem. The price just doubled.
00:48:43
Curt
Yep.
00:48:43
jamie peacock
um
00:48:43
Curt
Yep. Yep.
00:48:44
jamie peacock
So, yeah, they sent the PO o today. I ordered most of the material. that'll get it That'll be a next week problem, machining 10 samples.
00:48:51
Curt
Okay.
00:48:52
jamie peacock
wo um
00:48:53
Curt
Yeah.
Tooling Costs and Efficiency Balance
00:48:55
jamie peacock
It's fine. 10 samples will hopefully lead to 700, but I'm not holding my breath.
00:49:00
jamie peacock
knock
00:49:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:00
Curt
Well, at least 10 is enough to like to flesh it out to see if 700 will be workable at that.
00:49:01
jamie peacock
we We will see.
00:49:05
jamie peacock
Yeah. so i've got to make i've got to make fixtures so i'm like fuck that these are going to be mirroring fixtures that way they can be one part fixtures if the fixture doesn't work oh no i'm out for a mirroring palette not a palette because i'm going to make it as big as i can so i can load like five or six these things on at once and just let it run for like 40 minutes um yeah and those all vacuum fixtures i kind of want to validate them so yeah that that came through today so
00:49:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:26
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:49:32
jamie peacock
Going to be doing that, being, yeah, been quoting so much stuff and just not hearing back yet. And I think it's got to do with our financial year end being February in South Africa for most businesses.
00:49:43
jamie peacock
So they either hanging on to money or they want to spend their budget.
00:49:44
Curt
yeah
00:49:48
jamie peacock
There's one of the two. Um, And I quoted a job today for more radar parts. um They wanted 5 series aluminium on some of the parts, but I can't get it in the thickness they want. They want it in 6.5mm.
00:50:01
jamie peacock
Not a thing. You can get it up to 6mm. And it comes in a 2.5x1.25m sheet.
00:50:05
Curt
Okay.
00:50:09
Curt
Ooh, that's big.
00:50:09
jamie peacock
Yes, 50kg of aluminium. I don't have a forklift. I basically need to get a forklift.
00:50:14
Curt
Yeah,
00:50:15
jamie peacock
um And then... battery-powered circular saw, Q20, and fucking chop that thing up in the driveway to the size it needs to be.
00:50:23
Curt
ha yeah yeah i do you gotta do, I guess. Right, yeah.
00:50:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, 100%. Like, it needs to needs to be chopped down. But yeah, quoted them today, and that ended up being a nice little order. We'll see if they place the order. Normally, I don't share anything until I get a PO o
Pricing Strategies and Customer Management
00:50:38
jamie peacock
from these guys.
00:50:39
jamie peacock
But they were like, if the price is decent, we will order and pay for all 28 sets of these. think there's five components. All 28 sets, and we need delivery of the last set in eight months time.
00:50:48
Curt
Oh,
00:50:52
jamie peacock
So we want nine, nine, and ten.
00:50:55
Curt
okay, okay.
00:50:55
jamie peacock
So I'm like, cool, I'll just order all the material. Either put the material on my shelf or machine them all finished one time and just ah deliver as they need. So yeah, we'll see.
00:51:05
jamie peacock
I'll know in the next day or two whether that's coming through. And that's all vacuum work holding. Yeah, some interesting that going to pull there because they're thin parts. I think there's 15, a 9.9, a 6.5, and a point five and a four point five thick And they're not small.
00:51:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:23
jamie peacock
They're like 370, 400 mils.
00:51:23
Curt
Ooh.
00:51:25
jamie peacock
One is 500. I don't have 500 mils of travel.
00:51:28
Curt
Ooh. Yeah, those are big. Those are big and thin.
00:51:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I have ways to deal with that, vacuum trucks. So in the quotes, I counted for... um 500 by 400 and 400 by 400 pallets for the harbor that I can drop on custom machine all the gasketing I need get basically up one hold it upside down up to drop it down locate it do the counter balls and shit bolt it down turn off the vacuum and then evaporate the middle so it's like all these different steps you've got to go through to handle big thin fucking plates but that's what vacuum work holding is great at
00:51:56
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:03
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:52:06
jamie peacock
So, yeah, turn it all into shavings, but that is what it is. It's just off the course at this point. So, yeah, I ran those two toolpaths today, and the pricing was pretty close.
00:52:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:15
jamie peacock
The material price was off, but everything else was pretty close.
00:52:19
Curt
That's cool. That's cool.
00:52:20
jamie peacock
yeah Yeah, it gave me a ballpark of kind of where I expected the
Tooling Investments for Growth
00:52:25
jamie peacock
price to be. I kind of went a little bit higher than I probably should have, but also, fuck it, it's... I need to account for losses as well.
00:52:32
jamie peacock
Like, if if I scrap one, I don't want to now i have to make three to make it up. Like, yeah.
00:52:36
Curt
No doubt. Yeah. yeah
00:52:38
jamie peacock
Because that's the thing. Like, yeah, it goes, oh, it must be 3x material cost.
00:52:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:41
jamie peacock
Like, if I pull that shit, I am not getting any work.
00:52:45
Curt
Yeah. No, it depends on for sure.
00:52:46
jamie peacock
But then I've got, I've also got products that are 10x material cost.
00:52:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:51
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. It all works out.
00:52:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:52
Curt
Yeah. Eventually.
00:52:52
jamie peacock
It all shakes out, but yeah, we'll see. We've been quoting a lot of fucking, a lot of high volume stuff. We're busy now with, uh, I think oh yeah that that's in the it's in the Google box.
00:53:05
jamie peacock
We are going to be. um well I'm waiting for samples to be wire cut right now of a press tool to rib a nail for her pleasure.
00:53:15
Curt
Okay.
00:53:15
jamie peacock
And then we need to punch half a million of them. On my little eccentric.
00:53:21
Curt
oh
00:53:21
jamie peacock
So I'm chatting to the garden boy tomorrow.
00:53:22
Curt
oh
00:53:25
jamie peacock
and I'm basically going say to him, listen, yeah, three cents a piece. You come sit. If there's work, there's work. If there isn't work, there isn't work. You need to do 20,000 a week. You sit here for two days and just do to and run these things, and he'll that basically make four times as much as he's currently making, working in the garden, sitting in a press.
00:53:42
Curt
Sure.
00:53:43
jamie peacock
and
00:53:44
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:53:44
jamie peacock
So he'll make good fucking money on it, and it's for the next six months or so that he needs to come in two days a week to do half a million of them.
00:53:53
Curt
That's so many. That's so many. so
00:53:57
jamie peacock
In terms of press shops, it's not.
00:54:00
jamie peacock
Like, it's really not. So I was at the customer today, and he's like, yeah, he can blank 20,000 parts a day, or 15,000
00:54:00
Curt
No, and yeah, absolutely.
00:54:02
Curt
Yeah.
Energel Refill Design Challenges
00:54:07
jamie peacock
parts a day or something.
00:54:08
jamie peacock
And they need 20,000 a week.
00:54:09
Curt
Okay.
00:54:09
jamie peacock
So they can blank, get them to me. i can have the guy sit here for two days or three days, and yeah, it'll be fine.
00:54:15
Curt
Wow. ah Good.
00:54:16
jamie peacock
And as many as he blanks, that's how many I pay him for for the day.
00:54:17
Curt
That works. ah
00:54:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:54:19
Curt
Yeah, that's that's a good shake. That's a good deal.
00:54:21
jamie peacock
It gives him incentive to do as many as he can.
00:54:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:24
jamie peacock
um
00:54:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:26
jamie peacock
And also, like, he can earn a lot more than he's currently earning. Doing it, earn way more than that, but that's not the point. i have to maintain the tool. um
00:54:35
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:35
jamie peacock
That's also my workshop.
00:54:35
Curt
and yeah
00:54:36
jamie peacock
That's how it works. um
00:54:38
Curt
yeah life man
00:54:38
jamie peacock
But, you know, I offer the job to my brother and I'm like, hey, you want to be a press operator, bro?
00:54:42
Curt
kind of of
00:54:43
jamie peacock
Like, I'll go 50-50 with you if you just put half a million of these through a press. I mean, he has half a brain. yeah, I've got to put guards and stuff on my on my press because, obviously, I don't want the guy's finger in there.
00:54:49
Curt
yeah yeah
00:54:54
Curt
Yeah, fair. Fair.
00:54:56
jamie peacock
so we're gonna yeah i've got some plans to make that he can't get his hand in there because essentially the press is just gonna be going it's eccentric press it's just fucking running and he feeds the pot and hit 90 degrees hit out and just as fast as he can fucking he can go and like put them in a bucket and let them go out the door again need a need a forklift to unload
00:55:05
Curt
Right. perspective
00:55:14
Curt
Nice.
00:55:18
Curt
Yeah, yeah. yeah
00:55:19
jamie peacock
like i will i will get this forklift story right at some point
00:55:19
Curt
That's going to be weighty.
00:55:25
Curt
Yeah, well, we'll just keep talking about it eventually down a cold cave.
00:55:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, eventually you'll have to cave, yes.
00:55:27
Curt
Or you'll find one. Yeah.
00:55:29
jamie peacock
So tell me about your fancy end.
00:55:29
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:31
jamie peacock
Actually, yeah I have a refill thing that I want to discuss as well. But anyway, let's talk about your proper refills on your proper pens, not the Jamie's janky bullshit stories.
00:55:41
Curt
So, people have always wanted Energel refills because it's a popular style and it it doesn't fit my pen because the O-ring gets in the way so I have to change the tip geometry wildly and it's like if I'm changing that O-ring, I'm going to change the other O-ring. So, anyways, I've kind of been hesitant to do it.
00:55:56
Curt
What are you looking at me all confused for? Okay. um I just need a really thin O-ring. So it's not like you can't find them. So I'll find one. It'll work out. People have done this. I'm not so i'm not sending a rocket to the moon or something difficult.
00:56:08
Curt
Like it's a freaking O-ring. Anyways, I haven't, yeah, I haven't really been doing it just because, well, orders, right?
00:56:11
jamie peacock
a space pen.
00:56:16
Curt
Like i have a million other orders for other things. So it's like, why stop the money train when I, you know. Anyways, There's a lot of interest in it. So it's on my radar. Literally every single week, someone messages me, DMs me, emails me about it. So it's never off my mind. um But I came across a interesting post by, it was like a, I don't know if it was ah a bank.
00:56:31
jamie peacock
you'll fine.
00:56:37
Curt
i think it was a bank guy.
Uniball 207 Pen Insights
00:56:38
Curt
And he was saying the only pen he uses is in a Uniball 207, which is basically the same for form factors and Energel pen. And he uses a 207 because it's pigment ink. It's not like gel ink or like a all the different types of ink.
00:56:51
Curt
And it's one of the only inks in the world that you can't acetone wash. So like if you get a check, I don't know if I should say this on a podcast, you can remove, you can remove ink from most papers, depending on what it is.
00:56:59
jamie peacock
and you'll be fine
00:57:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:04
Curt
A check is printed with pigment ink. So it doesn't dissolve in acetone. It's called acetone washing. If people want to Google it, it's how they used to do fraud on checks. um But with proper pig,
00:57:13
jamie peacock
like The that Czechs still exist blows my mind.
00:57:15
Curt
Dude, right? Yeah. um But if you use proper pigment ink, it basically goes into the paper fibers and it's permanent.
00:57:16
jamie peacock
Yeah. Hmm.
00:57:20
Curt
You can't wash it off without washing off everything else on the paper. So it's like, it's there for life. It's archival. Like it's, it's all, it meets all the standards. So I was like, and it's like two bucks for like the pen itself.
00:57:32
Curt
So the refills are like a buck, um which made me think I'm like, I want, that's what I, when I write with everything, I make sure I'm writing with like archival ink. Cause like, I want it to last for 50 years, a hundred years.
00:57:40
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:41
Curt
I don't want it to like disappear. So anyway, this was a push I needed to be like, I need this refill because now this refill makes me happier because I'm like, it's a, it's a better quality ink and they do write really well and I can get them and everybody wants them.
00:57:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:52
Curt
So it's like, it's a win, win, win. So, uh, yeah, that pushed me over the fence to make sure I crank that energy.
00:57:54
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:57:56
Curt
come I was waiting to put it into the click pen, but now the click pen is kicking my ass. I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to re going to redesign this and, uh, yeah, it'll work out.
00:58:05
jamie peacock
How much of a change is it on the the tip geometry on your pen?
00:58:06
Curt
And it,
00:58:10
Curt
Uh, just right now the O ring groove is quite deep because I'm using it off the shelf O ring to make it easy for people. If they have to replace it, it's just a dash double seven or double seven or double eight O ring.
00:58:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:58:20
Curt
Very easy to get and get them anywhere. Seven, 11 will probably i have, them um, your corner store, if you will.
00:58:22
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:58:24
Curt
Um, but I'll have to move to a custom size O-ring that's very thin, like maybe like a 32nd of an inch, because I have to have a clearance hole for the spring, and
Pen Redesign and Compatibility Issues
00:58:33
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:58:33
Curt
if they intersect, the whole pen falls apart.
00:58:35
Curt
so ah
00:58:36
jamie peacock
Fair enough.
00:58:37
Curt
But when I do that, when I change that O-ring, I'm going to change the O-ring on the other side of the pen, and ah long story is short, it'll be backwards compatible, so if people have any of my current pens, you'll be able to screw the new tip onto it.
00:58:46
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:58:48
Curt
You'll have to trim the refills, because the pen's going to be slightly different in length, um but yeah, it'll be... it's a good idea it's a good idea all around so i'm i'm gonna do it so yeah yeah
00:58:53
jamie peacock
okay yeah nice okay no i was just curious i wanted to build a pen out of the really short refills like this one i don't know they're super skinny like um figure you'll write a page and they'll run out of ink yeah yeah i saw them at the the station shop like lord of us i'm gonna make a pen and then like why the fuck am making a pen
00:59:04
Curt
oh the d1s yeah yeah yeah yep that's basically what they will but yeah d1 refills are you can make a crazy tiny pen with them yeah
00:59:20
Curt
Yeah, I've always wanted to make a pen around, there I think it's a Lamy M22 refill. And it's exactly the same length as those, but it's fat. So like it holds a lot more ink.
00:59:27
jamie peacock
Okay. Ah.
00:59:29
Curt
They're like $10 refills.
00:59:29
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:59:30
Curt
They're kind of crazy. um And they're really hard to find.
Refill Accessibility and Choices
00:59:33
Curt
But you can make like a pen like this big.
00:59:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, thats that's a problem. Like, there's a problem. You use a non-standard refill, and now all of a sudden, getting a refill is a fucking problem. Like, because everywhere.
00:59:42
Curt
Yeah, well, that's why people are like, why do you use Parker refills? I'm like, because you can get a Parker refill anywhere on earth.
00:59:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:59:47
Curt
Like they're there's they're prolific.
00:59:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:59:49
Curt
So anyway.
00:59:50
jamie peacock
They are standard like we have like six different variants we can get locally here and that's at one station restore.
00:59:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:56
jamie peacock
That's without even going and trying like it's going to P&A and just being like, hey what do you have in the way of paying refills?
00:59:56
Curt
Yep. Yeah, exactly.
01:00:02
jamie peacock
Do you want to spend $2 or do you want to spend $20 on a refill?
01:00:02
Curt
Yep.
01:00:03
Curt
Yeah. so
01:00:07
Curt
Yep, exactly. Yeah. So anyway, but that's my story there.
01:00:08
jamie peacock
No. OK, interesting.
01:00:13
Curt
But yeah.
01:00:13
jamie peacock
Okay, well, since john doesn't love us and doesn't want to join our our chat. Oh, wait, before before we run away, i think we have to answer john the question for john.
01:00:18
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:00:23
jamie peacock
um More importantly, was Norman asked me a question?
01:00:23
Curt
Oh, perfect.
01:00:28
jamie peacock
uh did you do where is it okay podcast question you mentioned that bertha is running better and faster than ever now uh in the last episode would you still have kept it uh if it ran as well before before you decided to sell it no i would not have kept it because the turkouts were airing out don't tell commission um no i wanted i wanted a smaller lathe no it ate up too much of my workspace
01:00:52
Curt
Fair.
Selling Bertha Machine and Workspace Optimization
01:00:54
jamie peacock
Sorry. Is he dying? Yeah. um For the travels, it was way bigger than it needed to be. And with the VFD I had on it, it lacked horsepower. The stuff Commissioner's doing on there crazy.
01:01:07
jamie peacock
um Go check him Thunder Mountain is his um is Instagram handle.
01:01:15
Curt
can't candy mountain i'm checking it too i'll be your secretary
01:01:16
jamie peacock
I'm just going to double check that because I don't want to be... Yeah, I think it's something... Yes, there we go. You do that. um and I you shared it with me. Oh, there we go. Yeah, underscore Thunder Mountain, by the looks of it.
01:01:34
Curt
ah yes thunder mountain followed by jspec engineering i better follow him follow back
01:01:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's the one. ah Yeah, if you want to see what Bertha's up to, he's been turning like 190 diameter pieces of steel on Bertha.
01:01:43
Curt
Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:01:44
jamie peacock
Like, 8-inch diameter.
01:01:45
Curt
Oh, yeah.
01:01:45
jamie peacock
It's freaking nuts.
01:01:47
Curt
that's a big one.
01:01:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:48
Curt
Yeah, yeah,
01:01:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, he's been doing some insane stuff on that machine, I'm glad to see it's still working. But yeah, I was kind of over that machine.
01:01:53
Curt
yeah.
01:01:54
jamie peacock
I wanted something fresh. um
01:01:57
jamie peacock
And for what for what I needed, the good way is a bit of a better fit. ah With the fancy parts capture and whatnot.
01:01:57
Curt
Sure.
01:02:02
Curt
Sure.
01:02:03
jamie peacock
For the part numbers I need to run. Like, I'm starting to seriously turn away job shop work. I'm not interested. I run my products, and I run a few production lines that i run, but otherwise otherwise i'm not interested in doing your onesie-twosies.
01:02:10
Curt
Okay, yeah, yeah.
01:02:15
jamie peacock
Just take a shit and fuck off. Like...
01:02:17
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:18
jamie peacock
I send the people to other people, like Carl and Kabish and whatnot.
Tool Sharing and Workspace Management
01:02:22
jamie peacock
And like Carl's, he's starting a shop. He doesn't have a shitload tools. I'm like, dude, if it's here, come borrow it.
01:02:29
jamie peacock
I have a shitload of late tools because I was buying things for every job and collecting random crap. Like, if you need a tool and I have it, please come borrow If it's not one of my production tools, I can take it.
01:02:39
jamie peacock
If it never comes back, it never comes back.
01:02:39
Curt
Yeah,
01:02:41
jamie peacock
If I need it, I know where it is.
01:02:43
Curt
yeah, yeah.
01:02:44
jamie peacock
And yeah, that's...
01:02:44
Curt
yeah
01:02:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, because otherwise you just end up with a mountain of shit you don't use. And that is a bit of a problem.
01:02:51
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:51
jamie peacock
So what is well, what is in your Google box?
01:02:52
Curt
Yeah. So.
01:02:55
jamie peacock
I'm asking, but I can't I'm busy reading it while I'm asking.
01:02:58
Curt
ah My Google box is the Uniball
Family Activities and Uniball 207 Exploration
01:03:03
Curt
207. Obviously, I've been looking at that. um
01:03:04
jamie peacock
Shock and all.
01:03:06
Curt
and Charmander and all the other classic Pokemons because ah my four-year-old is, they all like know the Pokemons.
01:03:10
jamie peacock
Us.
01:03:14
Curt
She knows a surprising amount of Pokemon. And, uh, my wife is, my wife is actually pretty good artist and she, she's drawing all the Pokemon for her and she colors them. Um, so we have a little, a whole page where she's got like, she's got Squirtle, she's got Bulbasaur, she's got Charmander, she's got, she's got all of them and she's, she's having fun, shows everyone.
01:03:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:32
Curt
So, uh, that's been all the Pokemon I've been in my Google search. Um, Portable tripods, I found out there. So in here, i I have one tripod and I just don't use it because it aggravates me because a tripod and a tight workshop is like the most frustrating thing in the world.
01:03:48
Curt
ah But what they build are these monopod tripods that have little three legs and they come up to a monopod. But as soon as you pick them up, the monopod legs fold.
01:03:53
jamie peacock
OK.
01:03:56
Curt
And then soon as you put them back down, the monopod legs come back out. So you can like pick it up and just bloop put it down.
01:03:59
jamie peacock
Oh, that's cool.
01:04:00
Curt
And then you can just like grab the the shaft. Don't take this out of context. And pull it, and there's, like, they'll go however high, they'll go up to like, 72 inches, and then go back down, and I'm like, I kind of want one of these, so, because
Monopod Tripods for Confined Spaces
01:04:12
Curt
I just, I'm using a tripod, they're not crazy stable, but, like um for vi like, for video, I mean, you can get chunky ones that are actually decently stable, but for most part, I'm using it for video, so I just, like, sorry, what's that?
01:04:12
jamie peacock
How stable are they?
01:04:16
jamie peacock
was going to say,
01:04:22
jamie peacock
Just put a pole gym weight. Put a pole on the gym weight.
01:04:29
Curt
Yeah, yeah, you could, i just, I just want it, like, easy and, like,
01:04:30
jamie peacock
kind of
01:04:33
jamie peacock
At least then it's not going to tip over. Because that's the thing that terrify me. There's fancy camera on the top. Eat.
01:04:39
Curt
Yeah, i mean, as long as you don't bump it, it's not going go anywhere. So, like, it's stable enough that, like...
01:04:43
jamie peacock
Famous last words.
01:04:45
Curt
Well, sorry. If you buy the cheap ones, they are a lot more wiggly. If you buy the more spendy ones, they work better.
01:04:49
jamie peacock
Eat.
01:04:50
Curt
So, I think I might end up with one of those because I just...
01:04:51
jamie peacock
Why don't you just build a camera gantry on your roof?
01:04:54
Curt
Dude, don't push me on that. that i i have a I have the gantry system already.
01:04:56
jamie peacock
well e
01:05:00
Curt
Like, i yeah, I want to do that very much. But that's the last...
01:05:03
jamie peacock
It's the way to go, Kurt. Don't half-ass it. Full-ass it.
01:05:07
Curt
Well, and then that leads into my last topic of just camera
Camera Equipment Comparison and Needs
01:05:10
Curt
shit. I've been looking at way too much camera stuff. I think I've settled on the next camera I'm going to get is the Sony a 6700.
01:05:17
Curt
I was looking at the FX 30, which is a cinema camera.
01:05:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:22
Curt
But I think the 6700 is going to be perfect for my needs, has the same video processing as the cinema cameras, and it can still have mechanical shutter. That's super nerd stuff. If you want a camera that does everything video, like,
01:05:33
Curt
and pictures and whatnot.
01:05:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:34
Curt
6700 is kind of the the leader of the gang right now. It's not cheap, but ah it's a super good camera.
01:05:37
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:05:39
Curt
so
01:05:39
jamie peacock
I would expect so.
01:05:42
Curt
Yeah, so I think it's I already have the Sony lenses, so i think going to stick with that.
01:05:44
jamie peacock
I'm literally taking product pictures with this old ass Huawei because it takes better pictures than my new ass Oppo.
01:05:52
Curt
Dude, I was doing the same thing until I stupidly pulled up my DSLR and took one picture, and I was like, oh, shit, they're so much better.
01:05:53
jamie peacock
Well,
01:05:57
jamie peacock
well Yeah, i've got I've got another camera. I should probably just play with that rather. It'll be part of the assembly room.
01:06:05
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:06
jamie peacock
I'll put a charging station for it, and then might actually use it because it sucks for video. It's forever auto-focusing. It fucking drives me mad, especially because I'm generally one-man shooting, so I can't set the focus because I can't see the fucking screen.
01:06:14
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:20
jamie peacock
So, yeah, it's a bit of an issue, but that should get solved with the Osmo Nano.
01:06:21
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:27
Curt
Yep. yeahp Yeah, that would do too, for sure.
01:06:29
jamie peacock
that would That would handle my day-to-day filmmaking needs because i do need to shoot a bit more in the workshop footage to kind accompany the Fusion stuff that I have planned.
01:06:42
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:42
jamie peacock
yeah There's content planned. but Okay.
01:06:48
Curt
That's fine. How about you? What's in your box of
Efficient Product Labeling with Business Cards
01:06:50
jamie peacock
Rand dollar because it's a fucking rollercoaster. Printlulu, they do printing of business cards, which is what I'm going to use for the packaging of the keel clamps. I'm just going to design up a business card, have them print a whole shitload of them, and then you just tick on it what thread size it is and staple it to the bag.
01:06:50
Curt
Google's?
01:07:01
Curt
Oh.
01:07:04
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:07:06
jamie peacock
Good enough.
01:07:07
Curt
Okay, cool.
01:07:08
jamie peacock
It's a local printing company. They're pretty cheap. Their quality is okay.
01:07:10
Curt
Oh, cool.
01:07:11
jamie peacock
Then I was looking at patents because, well, obviously... I was searching some other patent last night.
01:07:16
Curt
Sure.
01:07:17
jamie peacock
um I was doing up tough tough cases, which is like a Pelican case type thing, locally manufactured, and I don't really want buy from them again, because last time it took me three weeks to get my fucking case.
01:07:25
Curt
Yep.
01:07:30
jamie peacock
But I want to make an anchor point that goes in my car, so when I go visit people, I can take a sample with especially of the mechanical, because the pneumatic, oh, do you have an airline?
01:07:37
Curt
Oh, yeah. Okay.
01:07:40
jamie peacock
And then I go, we don't have air, because they're a bunch of fucking illiterates.
01:07:42
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:44
jamie peacock
um So yeah, I want to put a mechanical in there, but I don't have another mechanical that I want to sacrifice to that cause yet, because I've got the two that are going in my machine, ah number one and number three.
01:07:51
Curt
Sure.
01:07:57
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, looking up nail ridges for her pleasure, because I'm going to be stamping nail ridges into... half a million nails.
01:08:08
Curt
Nice.
01:08:08
jamie peacock
It should be fun.
01:08:09
jamie peacock
So are we doing this week, we're going to do a sample sample of hitting those, I need to still make the little die carry over little tool carriers, because I've got them to wire cut tools out of hard and tool steel.
01:08:09
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:10
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:19
jamie peacock
But the whole insert is like 12 by 12 millimeters. It's fucking tiny. so I'm gonna build a die holder that I just clamp it into alignment then the guy just I'm gonna make effectively a slot
01:08:23
Curt
yeah
01:08:30
jamie peacock
that he slots it into 90 degrees, slots it the other way, and out. And then I can guard the whole machine. And he goes, and yeah, lube the fuck out of my press, because it's going to be running nonstop, like, 10 hours a day.
01:08:37
Curt
Sure.
01:08:40
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:47
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:08:48
jamie peacock
I was actually thinking of putting him in the little al outside room, putting the press out there, letting it sit out there.
01:08:49
Curt
It's going to be a little...
01:08:53
jamie peacock
But it's hot as all fuck in there, so I'm not that cool.
01:08:54
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:57
Curt
Oof. Yeah. That sounds like a rough job.
01:08:57
jamie peacock
Close, but not quite.
01:09:00
Curt
Yeah.
01:09:00
jamie peacock
Oh, it's a shit job, but yeah, it's a fucking shit job.
01:09:00
Curt
Press in a hot box. Yeah.
01:09:04
jamie peacock
I'm not going to do it. I'll pay someone to do it. But yeah, that's, yeah.
01:09:07
Curt
Be fair.
01:09:08
jamie peacock
So we skipped the section last week, but where can people find your things and stuff?
01:09:15
Curt
uh confounded machine.com it links to all my things and stuff and on the media page it links to things and stuff of the show and then i also have a updates page now which just links to things and stuff of videos that are platform agnostic so if you don't want to follow on instagram you can follow over there um rss to the site or whatever and carry on how about you what do ah where can people find your wares
01:09:30
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:09:32
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:09:35
jamie peacock
Very nice. uh yes all over the show these days um jspec underscore engineering on instagram so you can follow the day-to-day happenings of me and my shop uh jspeceng.com is where you can find the anchor point the flak the mechanical anchor point uh which all three are actually on sale right well for sale right now now not on the sale um yeah they're all available there and then shortly you'll be able to find us at uh trying not to say nocturnal, at nauticalwh.com, but there's a holding page there.
01:10:06
Curt
ye
01:10:09
jamie peacock
And the spelling is kind of weird. So there'll be links for that going forward, I think. But yeah, you can find us there. And if anyone's interested in testing out the... The keel clamps, hit me a DM and we can arrange something.
01:10:22
jamie peacock
There's going to be about 100 of them going out. I'm happy to do, if you reach out and say you listen to the podcast, I'll give you discount. Yes, because the shipping on those is actually cheap because they weigh nothing and it's small.
01:10:35
Curt
Nice.
01:10:36
jamie peacock
So it goes in like a bubble mailer and should be about, wait, maths is hard, should be about $15 or so, $15, $20 shipping. So not brutally expensive, like $70 or $80, which is what the anchor points cost to ship.
01:10:53
jamie peacock
So yeah. And if you're ordering an anchor point, we'll just throw them in the box.
01:10:53
Curt
Oh, nice.
01:10:58
Curt
so nice
01:10:58
jamie peacock
Actually, speaking of, we added a whole bunch of add-ons to anchor points. There's now an option for printed covers for gauge pins when you make pallets. Additional hardware, but not pallets, like retention hardware, so an idiot screw and
Expanding Anchor Point Options
01:11:13
jamie peacock
pull stud.
01:11:13
jamie peacock
They're all just options there now when you check out so that we can add them as options because selling them loose is just not feasible.
01:11:22
Curt
Fair, fair, fair. Yeah.
01:11:23
jamie peacock
To buy a blank pallet from us, I checked the shipping. um They double in price when you reach $10,000. That's when it's only double the cost when you calculate shipping.
01:11:37
jamie peacock
So if you buy 10 blank pallets, the shipping is only the same as the pallets.
01:11:38
Curt
Oh, I see.
01:11:42
jamie peacock
Anything less than that, the shipping is just extremely overbrassed.
01:11:46
Curt
gotcha. Okay.
01:11:47
jamie peacock
Especially with tariffs.
01:11:47
Curt
Okay.
01:11:49
jamie peacock
So ah it's yeah, it's not worth selling them loose.
01:11:50
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:53
jamie peacock
They are only an option if you're buying an anchor point. And on average, people buy an additional two pallets. That seems to be the happy number.
01:12:00
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:00
jamie peacock
the starter kit it's it's interesting to see that data but anyway uh what are you up to today kurt
01:12:01
Curt
Nice.
01:12:08
Curt
Uh, today is technically family day. So I have my little rats at home. Uh, so yeah I'm just going to probably, i might do a little bit of work in here, but i'll probably just hang out with them. Maybe we'll go, i don't know, do something.
01:12:16
jamie peacock
nice ah
01:12:18
Curt
We'll see. I had my little one not feeling super hot, so it might just be a cartoon drawing Pokemon day.
Planning Family Activities
01:12:23
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:24
jamie peacock
nice uh i'm gonna go snooze and then tomorrow
01:12:24
Curt
So how about you? What are you up to
01:12:31
jamie peacock
Don't remember what I do. Oh, tomorrow I've got drive my mother-in-law around because my car, she's a still in the shop and getting progressively more expensive.
01:12:35
Curt
Ooh.
01:12:39
jamie peacock
um
01:12:40
Curt
Ooh.
01:12:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, I know. We'll chat about that in the after show, how my car went up in price by literally 50%.
01:12:48
Curt
Eesh.
01:12:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, so Danica's using her mom's car, so I'm driving. I'm going to take her mom to gym tomorrow morning, and then I'm go to take her to theater friend's. So I'm in and out, like I'll get the machine running or doing something and then I'll zoot out and go drop her somewhere and come back or go see a customer.
01:12:56
Curt
Mm.
01:13:01
jamie peacock
But yeah, I'm going to probably probably build an electrical cabinet tomorrow for a press.
01:13:02
Curt
Ugh.
01:13:06
jamie peacock
The guys want to put this press on a VFD and have it run on single phase. I think they want to put it off site or something.
01:13:11
Curt
Okay.
01:13:12
jamie peacock
So yeah, I'm waiting for them to sort out deposits so that I can just go about using my own money. I'm going to order the VFD, go by the box, wire everything up for them, all with blue wire.
01:13:18
Curt
Fair.
01:13:22
jamie peacock
Can we please have different color wires? am like, in this case, no. Everything is 220. All the logic is 220 because then we don't have to step down. like ah It's a button that holds a relay high.
01:13:31
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:33
jamie peacock
Literally, it's a latching circuit. Push button, press comes down until it reaches a certain pressure on the pressure switch, and then goes back up. um that can all just be done with uh with the 220 volts coming in so i'm like no everything's blue good luck troubleshooting it phone me um so building a panel for them a little bit of a savage building a panel for them and then i need to rewire their milling machine at some point as well
01:13:40
Curt
Right.
Production Pause and Material Shortage
01:13:57
Curt
Cool. Cool, cool.
01:13:57
jamie peacock
so yeah lots of lots of weird shit shit that i shouldn't be doing but i'm doing because yeah like quotes a bunch of stuff orders haven't come in so i need to keep myself busy and out of trouble
01:14:08
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, I have enough anchor points on the shelf that I don't want to make any more.
01:14:09
Curt
Fair, fair, fair, fair.
01:14:13
Curt
Makes sense.
01:14:13
jamie peacock
So, yeah, now now I'm making clamps but waiting on material for that too.
01:14:14
Curt
Yeah. yeah
01:14:19
jamie peacock
So, playing the waiting game. But anyway, thank you everybody for listening.
01:14:21
Curt
Nice.
01:14:23
jamie peacock
If you've listened on Spotify, one of the podcasty things, we're available on YouTube. And if you're on YouTube, we're also there on Spotify. And if you're Zencaster, please say, Joe. um But yeah, thank you everybody and we will see the Patreon shortly and everyone else next week.
01:14:39
jamie peacock
Maybe with a guest, we'll see.
01:14:42
Curt
Time will tell. Take care all.